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holysheet

Newsflash!!
Serial molester Bill Cosby has played the race card. All through his career he was the best loved comedian of his time. Who were his biggest supporters? All the whites who didn’t give a fuck about his race. They just liked his comedy.
For him to play the race card is just an insult to all his now ex fans. These black use their race far too often to try and excuse their despicable actions.
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May 17, 2017 8:03am
- mikenmild
  
  These black (sic)</blockquote
  All of them, huh?
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:04am
  - itstricky
    
    These whites always use those terms.
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:20am
  - Kimbo
    
    The same rule applies around here to Muslims, but I’m assured it’s not racist as ‘Muslim’ isn’t a race.
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:46am
    - ztev
      
      There is not really anything as ‘race’ either if you want to be your normal pedantic self.
      
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      May 17, 2017 11:29am
      - Kimbo
        
        Sarcasm is wasted on you, isn’t it?
        
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        May 17, 2017 11:42am
      - itstricky
        
        It’s possibly wasted on 8 up tickers. I was thinking it’d be 8 down ticks all the way…
        
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        May 17, 2017 11:46am
      - Kimbo
        
        Touché. And I was going to chip you over that unnecessary and excessive adverb “possibly”, but then that would be sarcasm wasted on me, wouldn’t it?
        
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        May 17, 2017 11:50am
      - itstricky
        
        Oh no, it was intentional, in a non-sarcastic way.
        
        Of the 8 uptickers, there will be a portion that did get the [sarc] and upticked for that. So it was only ‘possibly eight’ not ‘definitely eight’
        
        I suppose I could have put the intent better without the adverb. Like ‘ It’s wasted on up to 8 uptickers’
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:52pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Sure there is.
        How do you explain the ability of a forensic scientist to identify the “race” of skeletal remains?
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:53pm
  - cmm
    
    mm: You’re quite correct to point out that there are some black people who detest playing the race card.
    
    Hard for them though, they get called Uncle Tom, and get attacked for not toeing the “Black” line.
    
    eg. TommySotomayo (recently banned from Twitter)
    
    eg. TerranceWilliams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h96E9hZbyMc
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:57am
  - Nermal
    
    Read carefully. HS said “these”, not “all”
    Question answered
    
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    May 17, 2017 4:56pm
- GoVege
  
  I laughed out loud when I heard that on the telly.
  I recall watching an interview a while back of some of the victims.
  One beautiful black woman described how she felt herself losing consciousness and realized she had been drugged.
  She said she turned to Cosby and said “You’re a real motherf**ker, aren’t you?”
  He apparently got such a shock, he got someone to bundle her in a taxi home and she escaped the fate of the others.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:11pm
William of Ockham

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The GOP: Reptilian from the bottom up.

And what’s this? A Russian spy in the White House!
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May 17, 2017 8:03am
- mikenmild
  
  Not a spy. A ‘useful idiot’ is the term.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:05am
  - holysheet
    
    Its all fake news you idiot.
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:06am
    - G152
      
      They probably didn’t see the video of the meeting between the President and the Russian diplomats with the dozens of aides hanging round in the background..
      More MSM hate Trump nonsense
      
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      May 17, 2017 8:22am
      - Paulus
        
        But the Washington Post knows better, as always – they got rid of Nixon and have been (very) trying ever since.
        Can we assume that there is amole in Trump’s office who may possibly subject to some form of blackmail or beholden to the WAPO ?
        
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        May 17, 2017 9:38am
      - stephieboy
        
        But it was OK with Wikileaks and Russkies leaking Hillary Clinton’s and Podesta emails ?
        
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        May 17, 2017 10:08am
    - stephieboy
      
      According to Infowars , Breitbart , Fox and naturally you idiot !
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:06am
      - pentwig
        
        steffie
        a bit rich for you to call Paulus an idiot
        1 post from Paulus has contains more intelligence than 18,655 posts from you
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:22pm
Keeping Stock

A massive merci beaucoup to French Open organisers for not giving Maria Sharapova a wild card into qualifying for next week’s tournament.

Sharapova has brazenly returned to the court after her drugs ban expecting every door to be opened to her as though she was bigger than the sport itself. The French Open opganisers have restored some honour to tennis.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11857421
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May 17, 2017 8:06am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And now she’s pulled out of the Italian Open with injury so will be depending on a wildcard to get into Wimbledon qualifying.
  Karma.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:25am
- Longknives
  
  Yet nobody has any problem whatsoever with Serena Williams locking herself in a Panic Room when the Drug Testers came calling..
  ‘Honour to Tennis’ my arse…
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:03am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Can’t say that about SW – cos you know she’s black and that would be racist.
    
    And the whole Sharapova thing is totally justified – she’s Russian after all and somehow she was involved in preventing Hillary from being President because….. you know, fake news!
    
    The whole drug regime is just a joke – they’re all on drugs – just some of them have exemptions for performance enhancing drugs because of “medical” reasons.
    
    Personally I’m rooting for Sharapova – those grunts (be still my fluttering aortic valves)
    
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    May 17, 2017 4:35pm
Inandout

Mark on TV3 seems more enlightened than Garner, and certainly more interesting.
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May 17, 2017 8:08am
- holysheet
  
  Yes I agree. He is is a breath of fresh air amongst the stench of the lefty pair opposite him.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:11am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    And he can put together a flat pack 🙂
    
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    May 17, 2017 2:19pm
- pdm
  
  Elaborate please – I have never heard of Mark on TV3.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:13am
  - holysheet
    
    The sports news reader, Mark Richardson
    
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2016/12/duncan-garner-s-co-hosts-for-the-am-show-amanda-gillies-and-mark-richardson.html
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:18am
    - pdm
      
      Thanks hs.
      
      For what it is worth I played cricket with his father back in the early 70’s.
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:42am
- Interested
  
  I have often thought that. Like to see Mark takeover. His comments are actually thought through unlike Garner.
  
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  May 17, 2017 11:17am
Stars And Stripes

To Kimbo
C/O Kiwiblog

S&S’s manager at work had an epiphany a while back and decided it would be good for the staff to have a community work day to give something back and show how much the company cares.
Being a very altruistic open hearted kind of guy I was naturally all in favour of this idea and could not wait to partake.
A variety of suggestions were put forward, two of them by S&S, one which involved going to the local rest home and sharing some multicultural stories with the residents and the other standing outside the local bottle store and offering to buy alcohol for school kids.
Even though my suggestions were widely accepted as the most socially beneficial my manager played it safe and decided that we would donate our time to a local social agency and help their “clients” with chores they needed doing.
Well on hearing this altruism quickly turned to disgust for S&S and the word bludgers started rolling off my tongue with sickening regularity there after.
So the community work day arrived and I was put in a team with two other young ladies from the office and we dutifully reported to the social agency for our orders.
We were greeted by the bog standard kind of women who works in a place like this, curly greasy hair and a pock marked face that looked like it had worked above a deep fryer for extended periods.
Mustering up the energy to haul her fat ass off the chair she pushed a piece of paper at me with a name and address on it.
The name did not mean anything but the address sure did as this confirmed we were heading to one of the worst streets in town.
At this point S&S was pretty keen on returning to work and telling the manager to shove his community work up his arse but was over ruled by my female companions who were more sentimental about the whole thing than I was.
So we drove there and on arrival it was an understatement to say it was bad, this place was so horrific that I decided only people who walked on all fours and ate a fruit diet could possibly live inside.
The grass was about a half a metre high, paint was peeling off the weatherboards in strips and there were tires on the roof which were only some of the most striking defects.
It was already apparent to me this shack was bulldozer material and any community work we performed here was not going to make a slither of difference.
However on the urging of my companions S&S did the chivalrous thing and accompanied the ladies to meet the householder.
The front door was open so we called out whether anyone was home and unfortunately somebody was as we were answered with a barely audible grunt instructing us to enter.
Heading in the direction of the grunt we entered the lounge and were greeted by a hippo like white trash women propped up in an armchair smoking a fag and eating potato chips.
The state of the lounge was chaotic to be charitable, everything was stained yellow from stale nicotine and the floor was littered with empty soft drink containers and food wrappers.
I think the starry eyed optimism of my two companions took a bit of a hit at this point but putting on a brave face they engaged the hippo in some small talk while S&S stood there glaring at her and reluctantly inhaling a variety of foul odours of which the source was never positively identified.
At this point her son Chris appeared who was apparently going to help us with our chores.
Well Chris was an inbred retard and apart from being useless it also became apparent that he had deviant tendencies as his eyes immediately latched on to one of my companions breasts and not even a donut from the mother could divert his attention.
Things at this point took an even more ridiculous twist as the hippo requested we mow the lawn where by I exhaled loudly and started laughing followed by the questions “Where is the tractor parked” and “When is the guy doing the hay baling arrive”.
Getting the idea that the lawn mowing was not going to happen the hippo reluctantly agreed we would do some “housework” whatever the hell that meant in this kind of dump.
S&S was so revolted by the mother and son at this stage that not even a token effort was made to do anything meaningful but the girls were not to be deterred and got stuck in.
Things were barely tolerable for a while until a commotion was overheard upstairs where upon one of the ladies appeared looking flustered saying to me that Chris had tried to grab her boobs while she was cleaning in the bedroom.
None of this surprised me at all, but just for the sake of seeming like I cared I agreed to go upstairs to have a chat to Chris.
Bad move, Chris was in full bloom when I arrived, spread eagled on the bed with his old fellow in his hand going for gold.
This was the last straw for S&S, going down stairs to the lounge and loudly proclaiming “Your son is a f@#$%&g pervert, you’re a repulsive slob and I’m done with this shit so find some other idiot to do your crap” before promptly exiting the dwelling.
Obviously the reality had finally hit home for my two starry eyed female companions also as they followed without a hint of protest.
We were expecting the next day at work to have a “please explain” from our manager but it never eventuated so I can only assume that as well as being too apathetic to do housework the hippo was also too tired to even bother complaining about us.
Our day of community work definitely broadened all our horizons even though I think Chris was the only one who really gave something back.
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May 17, 2017 8:11am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Great yarn S&S, but I am now in urgent need of mind bleach to purge the image of the reclining Chris from my head!
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:20am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Thing is, they have bred, will continue to breed, walk amongst us and get a vote
    
    No care, no responsibility, no pride, no respect for themselves or anyone else including those providing them with the means of their existence, no nothing, hence the origin and one meaning of the word fucktard
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:24am
    - jcuk
      
      Saving grace is they will be too ‘tired’ to get out and vote.
      
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      May 17, 2017 8:37am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Hence the ‘missing million’ and if so, bloody good job they are missing, long they remain so!
        
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        May 17, 2017 8:40am
    - cmm
      
      “Thing is, they have bred, will continue to breed, walk amongst us and get a vote ”
      
      Only because we pay them to do this.
      
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      May 17, 2017 8:59am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Perhaps men should have a few standards regarding where they put their ‘seed’, women don’t have children immaculately!!!
        
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        May 17, 2017 9:26am
      - Paulus
        
        In bred you mean !
        
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        May 17, 2017 9:42am
      - cmm
        
        “Perhaps men should have a few standards regarding where they put their ‘seed’”
        
        As I got down-voted for a couple of weeks back, quality control is the woman’s job. It is only the welfare state that screwed that up.
        
        Why do I say that? Men can spray their genetic material around freely and keep doing so for many years. There are millions of the buggers in every drop. Wait half an hour and there are a few more million ready to go. Men don’t get pregnant and can theoretically knock up hundreds of women in a year. Therefore biological cost of breeding is very low.
        
        Females: You get one egg a month or so. If you get pregnant you’re out of the breeding game for a year or so. It hammers your body meaning most women don’t have many babies. During this time you need resources brought to you, hence it makes sense to choose a quality man who is a good provider and sticks around. Women are biologically motivated to find a quality mate. Hence hypergamy: trying to marry up and find the best bloke you can.
        
        The welfare state changes all that because there is no reason to look for a quality man – just have fun with the biker boy and the welfare state will provide. Quality control is out of the window and it becomes a race to the bottom.
        
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        May 17, 2017 10:10am
- Kea
  
  SS welcome to the real world. Great story and typical.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:23am
- holysheet
  
  Very good, but why address it to Kimbo?
  I agree he can be a self-righteous prick at the best of times, but fail to see the reason.
  Maybe you have used too many adverbs? Who cares.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:23am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Kimbo does!
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:29am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    I addressed it to Kimbo because he seemed to particularly like my story from Coastlands Mall a while back so I thought I would dedicate this one to him.
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:46am
  - Kimbo
    
    Very good, but why address it to Kimbo?
    I agree he can be a self-righteous prick at the best of times…
    
    Can be?! Sir, I am insulted. It is my aim to always be a “self-righteous prick”.
    
    Nonetheless, I also double as literary agent for the new and hotly desired series now appearing on Kiwiblog, Postcards from Stars and Stripes (©, 2017) the musings of a self-confessed refugee who has fled from Mt Roskill, and now proudly embraces the title and job description of “bigot”.
    
    Thanks S&S, another ripper. Good to see you developing those embedded-anthropological skills. Gaining the trust of Headhunters in the Amazonian Rain Forest or deepest PNG sounds easy compared to a brief interaction the “hippo” and her progeny. Will suggest other assignments for you soon..
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:38am
  - Kimbo
    
    Maybe you have used too many adverbs? Who cares.
    
    I do. But as in the case S&S’s satirical purposes, sarcastic and/or hyperbolic use of adverbs are not a breach of Kimbo’s law. That, along with Postcards from Stars and Stripes is another meme out of Kiwiblog, btw.
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:41am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Ahhh, the beginning of the end of any credibility of Kimbos law now there are exceptions creeping in, it can only end in tears.
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:29am
      - Kimbo
        
        Not so – and I draw your attention to the specific wording of Kimbo’s law: “in blogworld the validity of an argument is in inverse proportion to the excessive and unnecessary use of adverbs”
        
        However, both sarcasm and hyperbole are attempting to argue something other than what they state. Therefore the deliberate overuse of unnecessary adverbs, while detracting from the ostensible argument, nonetheless strengthens the implied one….through a reverse-inversion. Is like a double negative.
        
        Simple. Now, did you see which shell I hid the pea under? 😉
        
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        May 17, 2017 11:21am
      - Kiwi Dave
        
        And did you notice how he deliberately split an infinitive – “It is my aim to always be a “self-righteous prick” – while proclaiming his self-righteousness?
        
        Clearly, unarguably, indisputably and sadly Kimbo is a troll. To needlessly, deliberately and flauntingly split infinitives is a egregious sin. C’mon, DPF, you need to immediately ban him.
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:43pm
      - Kimbo
        
        And did you notice how he deliberately split an infinitive
        
        Quiet in the cheap seats! And you know very well it was accidental, not deliberate, which confirms that your over-loading of an additional adverb to your existing hyperbolic output is not a breach of Kimbo’s law.
        
        Also, contrary to attempts to dilute it’s power, Kimbo’s law is not concerned in the first instance with grammatical trivia such as split infinitives (although, ‘fair cop’, btw) that excites Superannuitants in Remuera with too much time on their hands. Instead Kimbo’s law concerns the more substantial matter of misleading rhetoric.
        
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        May 17, 2017 1:34pm
      - Kiwi Dave
        
        Evidently, Kimbo and I should both be a little cautious when pointing out language sins, not that split infinitives are a language sin. Moi: ‘a egregious sin’; Kimbo: ‘it’s power’. Muphry’s Law strikes again.
        
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        May 17, 2017 3:17pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Evidently…
        
        No, I see what you are trying to do there. and I call your pedantic bluff and raise you: hyperbole.
        
        ‘it’s power’
        
        You bastard!! Don’t you have somewhere else to be? 😉
        
        Nonetheless, I repeat/double-down: Kimbo’s law does not concern grammar, nor syntax in the first instance, but deceptive rhetoric…no matter how tardy the spelling and/or grammar with which is is explained.
        
        However, I think you for your contribution to turn it into meme.
        
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        May 17, 2017 3:26pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Ok – I take it all back.
      
      If you can be the muse that encourages more creative writing from S&S then I dub thee the most valuable commenter on KB. Thank you for providing the inspiration!
      
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      May 17, 2017 4:44pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Meh. I have a long memory. Kindly withdraw you allegation concerning my lack of patriotism and I’ll consider letting you in on some of the “Postcards from S and S” royalties…
        
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        May 17, 2017 5:33pm
- 4077th
  
  That is indeed harsh punishment you and your workmates endured. What a dilemma for a union? Who to protect?
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:40am
- krazykiwi
  
  A great read. Stars and Stripes Postcard from Otahuhu? Or?
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:55am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Sounds a bit classy for some parts of Otahuhu, more like Otara and certainly not north of Mt Wellington
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:32am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    KrazyKiwi, the exact location of this story cannot be divulged but generally it occurred somewhere in the Taranaki region.
    The best thing probably is if we call the postcard
    “S&S Does Community Work”.
    
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    May 17, 2017 11:25am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      S&S serves community sentence?
      
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      May 17, 2017 1:11pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        Anymore cheek from you and the next postcard might be filed from Otorohanga. ☺
        
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        May 17, 2017 1:32pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      S&S Does Vegas has more of a blockbuster feel to it 🙂
      
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      May 17, 2017 1:34pm
- Kea
  
  Our entire social welfare system is structured around one single thing; Giving stuff to women.
  
  It is not about helping people and has nothing to do with “think of the children”
  
  Every year billions of dollars is taken from decent people to give to our nations of manipulative sluts. The vile fat pig you met will be told she has done the world a favour and is also beautiful. Her disgusting repugnant appearance is the fault of male beauty standards blah blah. You can be certain the pig creature is a “victim” of something.
  
  The fat pig will go from cradle to grave having contributed nothing to society. She exits only because you pay her to be that way.
  
  We pay our women to be whores. All they need to do is spread their dirty diseased legs and the money will flow. Of course they lie and say it is about the kids, but it is not. It is about paying women to have sex so they don’t have to work. This is the crowning glory of feminists and is a multi billion dollar con job.
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:07am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Men avail themselves of this ‘bounty’ that you describe so eloquently. Why is it solely the fault of women?
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:30am
    - Kea
      
      The benefit was introduced for women and for no other reason.
      
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      May 17, 2017 12:24pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        To allow men to abrogate their responsibilities and for women to escape abusive men. Not sure how women are the winners in either of those scenarios.
        
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        May 17, 2017 1:32pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      I sense imminent ‘triggering’
      
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      May 17, 2017 4:45pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    A study would need to be done into whether women have children to gain welfare, i.e., the so-called “meal-ticket” children.
    
    Is the production of “meal-ticket” children a strategy that individuals use to gain welfare?
    What cultural characteristics encourage/discourage the production of “meal-ticket” children?
    
    Does anyone know of any research into this area?
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:41am
    - waikatogirl
      
      The number of teenage girls getting pregnant has halved since the govt expects all women to go out to work once their child is 5 years.
      
      Kind of proves the point I guess, but unnecessary use of disgusting adverbs Kea.
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:47am
    - Kea
      
      Yes the dirty little sluts do it for the dollars. They are commercial baby farmers not parents.
      
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      May 17, 2017 12:25pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I consider that the sexual revolution was brought about by men for men, for women to be more sexually available to men, without the former inherent responsibilities.
    I do not agree that women have ‘benefitted’ from a lesser value being placed on their person than that accorded by marriage.
    Stupid feminists ended up giving men what they wanted most, free sex, while deluding themselves that it was all their idea. Now the rest of us have to live with it.
    Once a woman could ‘hold out’ for marriage and men respected that as they had few other options. Now it is just a matter of, if you don’t put out there will be another ‘bus’ along in a minute and I will get on that one.
    It has reduced choice for women not given it.
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:16am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Yeah, the thing you will be saying is that men also brought in the no fault divorce and that men love a wife with 1000 dick miles on the clock.
      
      I put to you that sexual revolution was not brought forth by men at all as it goes contrary to what real men want. A wife with low dick miles, and a stable happy family to come home to. As opposed someone who rode the cock carousel until it was time to settle down, and then can take your kids and half your shit once she decides its time to move on.
      
      Decent high value women were always hard to get and still are. Current system incentivises promiscuity and removes consiquences for women.
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:36am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        “dick miles” and “cock carousel”
        
        Memorable descriptives Padriv. Would they be from your many years trapped in a Muslim enclave in Chechnya, or since your self liberation into the dissolute world of the West? 😉
        
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        May 17, 2017 11:48am
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        It’s from my many years as a match maker in Afghanistan. Low dick miles equals more Camels as dowry. That’s where the profits are.
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:09pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Wise words, Padriv.
        The Sexual Revolution has been a double-edged penis (er, sword). While sexual enlightenment and understanding has been a good thing, the surrender to hedonism has not.
        Although sexual fulfillment is fleeting and insatiable by nature, the good work that one does raising a family will last well beyond one’s lifetime.
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:25pm
      - Kea
        
        Odakyu-sen, Kiwi women are the biggest sluts in the world. They do not deserve the status and consideration they are afforded in our society.
        
        http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-zealand-women-are-the-most-promiscuous-20-4-sexual-partners-thrice-the-global-average/
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:33pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Women used to be prized for the fecundity, those that were barren were no use to perpetuate a dynasty.
        A woman who has sex with her husband every day (for arguments sake) has no more cock miles on her than a woman that has had sex with different partners over the same time period, surely the ‘mileage’ is the same?
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:33pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Here was me thinking that women who appeared to like sex, as evidenced by being up for it, were preferred by men as they thought that it more likely that they would get some. Wasn’t that the point of that man’s complaint the other day that his wife happily had sex with men prior to him.
        I guess she settled down with the boring steady one?
        As I have mooted before, if women had to orgasm to conceive there would not be a population issue.
        Never should sex and good sex be equated!!!
        Is there bad sex for men? There certainly is for women.
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:52pm
      - Kea
        
        “incentivises promiscuity and removes consiquences for women”
        
        The consequences are carried by men in our society.
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:55pm
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        @Rachel
        Logic not your strong point I see.
        
        If by your logic a woman who has sex every day with her husband has the same dick miles as a woman who has sex with a diffirent man once a year, then you are saying that a slut, is the same as a faithful wife.
        
        It doesn’t make sense. You can’t have it both ways luv.
        
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        May 17, 2017 1:30pm
    - Kea
      
      “I consider that the sexual revolution was brought about by men for men”
      
      And I consider you are an idiot. Now get back in the kitchen !
      
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      May 17, 2017 12:27pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        …and what, cook? I would have to like a man very much before I would ‘cook’ for them.
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:36pm
- Peter
  
  The missing scum million
  
  Good luck with that, Labour.
  
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  May 17, 2017 11:12am
- kowtow
  
  S@S
  
  The girl who was indecently assaulted may be able to bring a case against her employer for placing her in danger ( albeit you’re all “volunteers”)
  
  At the very least she can now tell the boss where to shove his altruism the next time they come up with shit like this.
  
  People should not be asked by employers to do that shit at all. not what they signed up for.
  
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  May 17, 2017 2:14pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Yes lots of interesting questions there Kowtow.
    Well basically it came down to the fact that the girl concerned did not want to take it any further and I was so over it I did not have the energy either.
    Also I made reference in my post to “making it seem like I cared” which came from the fact that the girl concerned was on my case most of the day about not caring about people in need blah blah so when this happened I suppose I also thought well this might be a good learning curve for her and help bring her down from Cloud 9.
    As for the company doing this again, probably unlikely as some of the other groups sent out had less than positive feedback about the people they were helping also and the management got quite an earful about it.
    
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    May 17, 2017 2:57pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  F***ing brilliant S&S.
  
  That is the funniest post I think I’ve ever seen on any blog site – I too need mind bleach to remove the ghastly word pictures you conjured up in my mind.
  
  Just one thing – please tell me it isn’t true? Or at the very least you grossly exaggerated?
  
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  May 17, 2017 4:40pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    The basic story and details of the post are 100% true but obviously bits like S&S’s suggestions for what the company should do for community work were added for satire purposes.
    
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    May 17, 2017 5:05pm
kowtow

How mad is the UK?

“Dr Mabrouk is understood to have been in London when 25-year-old Pc Fletcher was shot dead.
He was deported after the demonstration with the government saying his presence in the country was ‘not conducive to the public good’.
But he re-entered Britain 15 years ago to study as part of Foreign Office moves to improve relations between Libya and the UK, it was reported yesterday.
Dr Mabrouk, once a high-ranking member of Colonel Gaddafi’s Revolutionary Committees, claimed asylum in the UK three years ago.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3330115/Son-man-arrested-Yvonne-Fletcher-shooting-says-father-innocent.html
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May 17, 2017 8:11am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I remember Yvonne Fletchers murder, chuck the shit and the rest of his cohort out!
  
  Scum, the whole fing camel fing lot of them.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:20am
Happychappy

Well I see our wannabe Prime Minister has decided to make statements about Trump and his honesty already. This is a problem for America and their people and when the true facts of what has eventuated are known then our Government should comment not a arrogant former Union Bully and Labour Leader that has never held a Cabinet Portfolio.
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May 17, 2017 8:14am
- kowtow
  
  Funny , innit ?
  
  On the one hand the MSM were calling the US ban on laptops ludicrous ,the EU wants to circumvent it ,blah blah ……
  
  …….but now that Trump mentioned it to the evil Russkies , it’s the biggest , worstest thing ever and lives and alliances are stake.
  
  So it was not important (first stance) or it is (second stance)?
  
  Either way it really is Trump Derangement Syndrome.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:27am
  - Inandout
    
    Takes the heat off this guy meantime though:
    
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/matt-drudge-jeff-bezos-is-personality-motivated-to-attack-trump/article/2623221
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:56am
- 4077th
  
  One must be seen to be backing one’s mouthpieces in the media.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:34am
waikatogirl

After North Korea included Australia on the list of countries it may launch a missile at, NZ checked that the NK missiles are not able to reach our shores.

You will be pleased to hear that the conscientious is probably not. ?
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May 17, 2017 8:34am
- Tarquin North
  
  They won’t risk hitting one of their true heroes of the revolution. All we have to do is use Gareth Morgan as a human shield.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:49am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Gareth is confident about his invulnerability but will be in a bunker made from cats just in case Kim the headcase didn’t get the memo
    
    ‘If I am going, I am taking as many of these bastard feline furballs as I can’ Gareth apparently slurred or mumbled or however one wants to interpret his style of speech.
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:36am
    - sooty
      
      Gareth out of the country and the missiles rain down!
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:52am
Chuck Bird

Barry Hart, say Rewa cannot get a fair trial – What say you?

Listen: ‘No chance’ of a fair trial for Malcolm Rewa, says former lawyer

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/national/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503075&gal_cid=1503075&gallery_id=176074
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May 17, 2017 8:40am
- 4077th
  
  Good! A fair trial would involve a short rope and a long drop. Problem solved!
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:43am
- holysheet
  
  Who would give a fuck if he got a fair trial.
  Really? Seriously?
  It would be a waste of taxpayers money to give the piece of shit any more publicity. He is already on PD so will never be released.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:45am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    “He is already on PD so will never be released”
    
    Can you guarantee that?
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:07am
    - holysheet
      
      So if he gets another conviction will that make a difference?
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:03am
- waikatogirl
  
  The women Rewa raped weren’t given a chance by him. F*!! him.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:48am
  - Kea
    
    Buy the comments above it easy to see why its impossible for him to defend these allegations fairly. Trial by media allegations is not justice. The cops already set him up once and are now trotting out the false rape complaints.
    
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    May 17, 2017 12:38pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Hart was as convincing in his argument as a chocolate fire guard is effective
  
  Stammers and stutters throughout with the central plank of his case being ‘it’s not fair’
  
  That sold it to me!
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:48am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Oh well, he could just confess and save us all the bother?
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:52am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Mind you, confessions are not to be believed now either, so a trial it must be.
    
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    May 17, 2017 12:17pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  What happened to the Herald being a “not accurate source”, as you blogged here last week Chuck? Or is the Herald accurate when they publish something you agree with, and “not accurate” when the opposite applies?
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:56am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    KS be careful prodding the big bad bear known as chuckie with a stick, he is a formidable man with significant prowess just like his bff Winnie….. or so he tells us anyway
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:10am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    KS, Why can you not stick to the issue. Did you listen to the audio?
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:10am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I’ll be more than happy for Rewa to be re-tried Chuck. I just find it amusing that you described the Herald last week as “not accurate” when I produced a link to astory rebutting a comment you made about Peters. Today, you offer a link from the Herald to support your argument about Rewa.
      
      Again I ask; is the Herald only “not accurate” when it doesn’t mirror your worldview?
      
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      May 17, 2017 9:52am
      - holysheet
        
        Its false news, but not as we know it Jim (Chuck)
        
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        May 17, 2017 10:05am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        KS. I am glad you support a re-trial for Rewa. If you want me to respond to an unrelated matter kindly provide a link.
        
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        May 17, 2017 10:49am
KevOB

Keep the Americans out of NZ. Immigration take note. We don’t want to be poisoned by their politics. Trump haters seeking residency should be denied. Some of our leftists are already too flakey for further exposure to TDS or any other cause or spur to aggression.

Let us have our election year in peace.
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May 17, 2017 8:41am
- 4077th
  
  I wonder who Dot Kraut is going to roll out this year? Bradley/Chelsea Manning? Madonna? Katie Perry? Russell Brand? Perhaps we will see the political resurrection of Pam Skwakery and Laila Harre with a new party called the screaming, rabid femdoms? Am sure there will be quite the cabaret for us to behold 🙂
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:50am
Chuck Bird

John Barlow, stood trail a third time after two hung juries.
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May 17, 2017 8:46am
- peterwn
  
  And he will still be cursing that he did not throw that rubbish dump receipt away. The cops found it in his car and mounted a successful search of the rubbish dump finding gun parts.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:55am
  - Kea
    
    peterwn, yeah the pigs are good at finding things that support their case. Especially when they don’t have any evidence and a weak case.
    
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    May 17, 2017 12:41pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Peter, you seem to have very good knowledge of the law. I hear if someone says David Bain is guilty the could be sued. However, we hear Barry Hart claiming Pora was not proved to be innocent. Could he be sued? When he was compensated the former judge who review the case basically said he was innocent.
    
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    May 17, 2017 1:22pm
- Longknives
  
  Oh God Notsofast will be along any minute..
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:07am
freethinker

Interesting but not surprising that the MSM have not reported the failure of the Dutch Politicians to form a coalition and the Austrian PM has resigned both of which may cause further upheaval in a fractious Europe. I won t mention the Greek non bailout courtesy of Stumblingfuerher Merkel.
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May 17, 2017 8:49am
- krazykiwi
  
  Rutte won’t speak to Wilders PVV party , meaning he needs four minor parties to form a coalition. And immigration seems to be the sticking point. Which is a surprise to absolutely no one.
  
  As for the Greeks, despite some success getting their deficit under control by any normal measure they should be left to fail. But they’ll be propped up again and again to keep the failed Euro show on the road.
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:08am
  - kowtow
    
    Europe’s fucked .
    
    Holland can’t form a gummint , over immigration and it looks like German voters are happy to give Merkel another run.
    
    Beyond reason.
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:41am
VicParking

Dont worry Angry Andy will stop all immigration from the USA and the UK (except for union reps as they are a required skill).
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May 17, 2017 8:50am
- 4077th
  
  That would mean everyone north of and including Birmingham.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:53am
Rachael Membery

Did I miss the apology for her crimes and a thank you for the compassionate release from the mortgage fraudster?
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May 17, 2017 8:54am
Manolo

There are leaks all over the place:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/333529-frustration-abounds-in-trump-white-house
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May 17, 2017 8:54am
- Inandout
  
  The White House team reminds me of a Henry VIII court, lots of milling around and lots of backstabbing and vying for the King’s favour. It is amazing that human nature hasn’t changed much over the past centuries, but obviously the way of dealing with traitors has. I bet some Presidents wish they could summarily order executions of dangerous staff (Clintons excepted?).
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:15am
  - stephieboy
    
    ” I bet some Presidents wish they could summarily order executions of dangerous staff (Clintons excepted?).”
    
    ????
    
    Conspiracy junction !
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:16am
    - rangitoto
      
      Obumma ordered several summary executions by drone.
      
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      May 17, 2017 11:46am
VicParking

Red Radio has a story this morning about Whanganui’s port revitilisation project
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/330928/stoush-brewing-over-whanganui-port-redevelopment
The headline should read. “Whanganui’s ports trough not big enough for two mouths.”
Once again the Council & and the government has thrown money into a project that has little chance of success and will have minimal benifit to the region. Whanganui’s CCO has again handed out Rose coloured specicles to the council and they are wearing them with pride. Its about time ‘Whanganui and Partners’ are brought down to earth and the bullshit they are throwing about is sent to the Councils overpriced wastewater treatment plant. (Sorry pumped out to sea and spread along the beaches, where are the greens went you need them)
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May 17, 2017 9:05am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Vic – if Midwest Ferries comes to fruition, then that’s great. But if you’ll pardon the metaphor, there’s a helluva lot of water to pass under the bridge before its viability is established.
  
  The port revitalisation doesn’t need Midwest Ferries to proceed. The priority is to relocate QWest, one of Whanganui’s best-performing businesses. QWest need deeper water to launch the boats they are building (like the two 300-plus pax ferries they have built for Fullers in Auckland, because their slipway at the current location gets silted up to buggery. QWest is putting a significant amount of its own money into the project.
  
  Around QWest as anchor tenant, the plan is to establish a marine hub, and to date it has been very favourably received. I may be biased, given that I know most of the members of the new Whanganui and Partners board personally, but I think your criticism of them is unwarranted. The Midwest Ferries proposal has thus far been self-funded. I think it’s also relevant to note what the Mayor said after Midwest Ferries made a presentation to council a couple of weeks ago:
  
  Mayor McDouall reiterated to Councillors and the public watching in the Chamber or via livestream that although he generally supports a ferry concept, he wanted to make people aware that the Midwest Ferries proposal would “stand or fall on its own merits” and that it was not currently part of the Port Masterplan.
  
  “Regardless of whether the Midwest Ferries proposal is feasible or not, the Port Masterplan will still go ahead in conjunction with other interested parties wanting to establish their business at the Port. A Whanganui to South Island ferry is not a new idea but it is an exciting one if the business can be scaled appropriately and some key details ironed out.”
  
  The port revitalisation, long overdue IMHO, will go ahead with or without Midwest Ferries. It is up to Neville Johnson and his business partners to make a case that their idea has sufficient merit to work WITHOUT a massive drain on the taxpayer and Whanganui ratepayers.
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:33am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    For those who may be interested, here’s the draft Whanganui Port Revitalisation Plan that went out for public feedback earlier in the year. It is my understanding that Council and the project team are evaluating responses, and the final plan will be signed off within the next couple of months
    
    http://www.whanganui.govt.nz/our-district/major-projects/Port_Revitalisation/Documents/Whanganui%20Port%20Revitalisation%20Master%20Plan.pdf
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:48am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      But will you be able to jag for eels under the wharf?
      Any prospect of Russian fishing boats returning to the port?
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:15am
- stephieboy
  
  VicParking , how much time do you devote listening to” Red Radio” ?
  
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  May 17, 2017 10:17am
cmm

Stuff pimping the poor again:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/92638606/what-poverty-looks-like-meet-the-sikaleti-brothers

She sent the brothers to school with $5, so they could buy lunch. “To me, it’s cheaper.”

No, it is not cheaper. You don’t live in a different world than other people. If you made them lunch you could do that for less than $1.

No wonder she’s struggling if people indulge her fantasies like this.
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May 17, 2017 9:10am
- Colville
  
  I wonder where the “Dad” is?
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:43am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Which one?
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:43am
Longknives

That ‘What Poverty Looks Like’ story is doing the rounds on Fairfax and Facebook etc
It’s the story of a Solo Mum who is crying because she can’t afford rugby boots and subs for her sons..
She also gives them five dollars a day to buy their lunches at School every day. (Obviously the art of making a Sandwich is lost on some people)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/92638606/what-poverty-looks-like-meet-the-sikaleti-brothers

Honestly there are more holes in her story than Swiss Cheese. Is this really the best the Media can do?- Right from her weird story about losing her job to claims about how much money WINZ give her it just doesn’t seem right..
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May 17, 2017 9:13am
- Longknives
  
  Sorry cmm- You just beat me to it!
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:21am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  “sikaleti”
  
  Isn’t that Samoan for cigarette?
  
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  May 17, 2017 11:56am
- howitis
  
  ..Is this really the best the Media can do?…
  
  Yes, why do you ask, grasshopper?
  
  A quick scan suggests it is more about mental health than financial management:-
  extract…
  Sitagata, 38, sometimes skipped her heart medication and the “happy pills” prescribed for her ailing mental health, to ensure Sikaleti and Tulaniu did not go hungry…..
  
  Are the media picking on a person who does not have the capacity to make beneficial decisions!
  No question mark as it is rhetorical.
  
  Are media filth.
  Again rhetorical.
  
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  May 17, 2017 3:08pm
EAD

Illustrative tweet on the scale of the African invasion of Europe facilitated by NGOs:

https://mobile.twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/864149957665751044

After years of “legal migration” in order to turn Europe brown and black, this swamping of Europe is the Globalists final solution as a Europe without Europeans is not Europe.

EDIT: Wikipedia entry on Coudenove-Kalegri and the Kalegri plan for those wanting to learn more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi
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May 17, 2017 9:17am
- cmm
  
  It isn’t the colour that’s the problem.
  
  It’s the low IQ.
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:27am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm, what makes you think your I Q is superior to a North African’s ?
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:19am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Objective scientific testing of IQ.
      That is the answer stephie – objective scientific testing.
      
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      May 17, 2017 11:25am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “Low average IQ” is a better way to think of it.
    
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    May 17, 2017 11:03am
Paulus Gnome

$5.00 gets a pie between two boys at lunch, that will do it for sure.

I suspect that ‘mother’ will have spent more than that on woodies or weed by morning tea time.
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May 17, 2017 9:18am
- cmm
  
  Unfortunately with the shitty skills being modeled to them by the mother, they will probably end up buying fizzies and lollies.
  
  $1 each can make three or four sandwiches each + some in-season fruit.
  
  Plant a vege garden (lots of space there) and there’s food for almost free.
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:33am
  - Colville
    
    A dozen scones cost $2.30 to bake.
    
    Its not as tho she lacks for the time reqd.
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:45am
    - Longknives
      
      Reality is for people like the Sikileti Family that even if we doubled her benefit she still wouldn’t know how to Budget or feed her family- And they probably still wouldn’t have their Rugby boots.
      As S&S alluded to with his ‘Touching’ story earlier today- These people don’t think, operate like normal contributing members of Society. They are incapable of making a sandwich for the kids and throwing an apple in their lunchbox..Kids gotta eat KFC or Maccas you see?
      Any Journalist worth his salt should have asked a few more probing questions- Why only such a small amount from WINZ? (Solo Mums with two kids get a lot more than the figure they are quoting) Do you have Court Fines? If you were indeed sacked so unfairly surely you would engage an Employment Lawyer?
      So many loopholes in the latest sob story!
      *Refreshing to read that people are seeing this in the comments section though
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:03am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Might I also add that if making a sandwich is too onerous for the mother, if she supplied the ingredients the children are old enough to make their own.
        
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        May 17, 2017 12:27pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    My 16 year old’s lunch is molenburg bread ($4.95 per loaf) that only lasts max 4 days fresh, some sort of meat (I buy 200g split packets that cost $5, with each 200g packet needing to be used within 2 days) with lettuce, mayo and butter. Also, a banana Up and Go and a biscuit.
    
    While giving him $5 a day might not be cheaper, it would be close and would also save on making sure I have the (fresh) ingredients for the lunch. The bread is the biggest pain in this respect and there’s no way I’m freezing it. And he gets at least a $’s worth of meat in his sandwich each day.
    
    Maybe you could do less than $1 per day for kid’s lunches but they’d be shit bread and nothing much to them.
    
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    May 17, 2017 9:55am
  - rangitoto
    
    A vege garden isn’t really free. I reckon I don’t save a lot doing it but I enjoy having the veges from my own garden.
    
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    May 17, 2017 12:37pm
- sooty
  
  Mirror, mirror, on the wall!
  
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  May 17, 2017 10:56am
- KevOB
  
  $2 will get two pies. I eat one for breakfast most days.
  
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  May 17, 2017 1:35pm
Happychappy

A Question on our homeless situation and did Andrew Little help to manufacture the situation. Here is my reasoning, say we had 60,000 people returning from Australia and half of those already own a property in NZ and had them rented out, that is more than 30,000 people out on the street if they can’t find accommodation. so Andrew Little had the luxury of using the the less fortunate to start the ball rolling without even having to bring the ones that people won’t rent to into the equation. So I would suggest Labour used the NZ economy saying that we more interested in wealth than looking after our people. Most of it being our own wanting a part of that success by returning to NZ.
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May 17, 2017 9:20am
- Paulus
  
  I have family overseas returning, after their three year term, to the 4 bedroom plus house they own.
  It has been rented for almost three years so another family will be looking for accommodation.
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:49am
Salacious Crumb

So at the previous election we had the Labour Party campaigning heavily on “No Asset Sales” based on Nationals desire for partial asset sell downs.
Now we see a former Labour minister, now Mayor of Auckland, floating the idea of selling the Ports of Auckland to pay for infrastructure. This after the same by the (former Labour) Mayor of Christchurch.

Is there something wrong with this picture?
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May 17, 2017 9:29am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Phil Goff led Labour’s Stop Asset Sales campaign in 2011. That was in spite of him having been part of a Labour Cabinet in the 1980’s that sold more state assets, by dollar value, than any government in New Zealand’s history before or since.
  
  He claimed in 2011 to have had an epiphany over asset sales, then believing them to be bad. I can only guess he has had another epiphany, now that he has the chance to hock off one of Auckland Council’s most valuable assets.
  
  If Goff’s going to sell Ports of Auckland, here’s hoping he gets market price for the asset, rather than the fire sale mentality that was prevalent under the Lange/Palmer/Moore regime.
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:40am
  - B.L.Zeebub
    
    The usual suspects will be lining up,wining and dining trying to be first in the queue to buy the ports for a dollar just like when the scumbag Cullen sold the railways.
    Maybe there`ll be a knighthood in it for Goff also?
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:08am
    - Ross12
      
      When I heard the plan was to sell the operating company but not the land , I started to wonder what the operating company could be worth
      ( other than a few surplus cranes). Isn’t it effectively just a “parking place” for ships to unload and reload. If you don’t have that land (ie. the parking place) what is left ? Any contracts with shipping companies cannot be worth much if the ships cannot berth –maybe a deal can be done with Whangerai but if they are the only possible bidders why bid a high figure ( why would Tauranga bother when that is the next best option for the shippers). So the value of anything that is left is probably close to your $1 BLZ.
      
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      May 17, 2017 10:28am
gump

Looks like Trump has thrown Israel under the bus!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-trump-classified-intelligence-russia.html

And for all those idiots that say nothing happened – McMaster has now confirmed that classified material was exchanged:

“General McMaster added that the president, who he said was unaware of the source of the information, made a spur-of-the-moment decision to tell the Russians what he knew.”
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May 17, 2017 9:37am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Oy Vey!
  
  “McMaster has now confirmed that classified material was exchanged”
  
  So? That is what US presidents have always done. It’s suppose to be some horrible scandal because the Joo Times etc are shrieking about it?
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:53am
  - stephieboy
    
    Well, you do have Wikileaks , the Clinton and Poesta emails as a useful yardstick .
    
    Joo Times ?
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:21am
  - fernglas
    
    While US Presidents have shared third party sourced classified information, the convention is that it is not done without the permission of the third party, and that it is done in a controlled way. Here the problem seems to be that the third party, probably Israel, had not given permission and that no-one was aware that the disclosure was going to be made. Despite all the cries of treason and calls for impeachment, it is really just a matter of competence.
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:24am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Why do the media feel that they have to disseminate what they think they know to the world at large. Iff (if and only if for those that don’t know) any information was shared to a few, surely to the many is worse?
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:59am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Because the whole thing is a (((media party))) hit job , ergo in reality (((they))) know there is no risk here.
    
    #Fake News
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:14am
  - KevOB
    
    What is not attributed to an actual named person is not true.
    What were once serious news sources have killed themselves through activism.
    
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    May 17, 2017 1:39pm
- Fletch
  
  Israel is fine with this
  
  Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer, also would not comment on the intelligence — but expressed confidence in the nation’s relationship with the US.
  
  “Israel has full confidence in our intelligence-sharing relationship with the United States and looks forward to deepening that relationship in the years ahead under President Trump,” Dermer said.
  
  http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/16/politics/israel-source-trump-meeting-russians/index.html
  
  Also, WTF does any of this have to do with the media? Who leaked this to them? As President, Trump has every right to share what he wants. The U.S and Russia are supposed to be united in defeating ISIS.
  
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  May 17, 2017 11:25am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch , who as well as Wiki leaks leaked the Podesta and , Hillary Clinton emails ?
    
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    May 17, 2017 11:30am
    - Fletch
      
      Whoever hacked his email. From what I understand,
      it was a simple phishing ploy – got him to click on a link he shouldn’t have. Could have been anyone, though I doubt it was the Russians.
      
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      May 17, 2017 11:34am
  - cha
    
    As President, Trump has every right to share what he wants.
    
    Well known bleeding heart disagrees.
    
    Compromising high-value CT intelligence = innocent people dying. That simple. Don't sugarcoat Trump's appalling arrogance and stupidity.— John Schindler (@20committee) May 16, 2017
    
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    May 17, 2017 11:34am
Manolo

Take more invaders or else…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4511928/EU-threatens-Poland-Hungary-SANCTIONS.html

The European Union on Tuesday set a June deadline for Poland and Hungary to start admitting their share of migrants from overstretched Italy and Greece or risk sanctions.

Eastern European countries like Hungary and Poland have opposed an EU plan adopted in 2015 to take in 160,000 Syrian, Eritrean and Iraq asylum seekers from Greece and Italy.

‘I call on Poland and Hungary who have not relocated a single person… to start doing so right now,’ EU Migration Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos told reporters.
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May 17, 2017 9:39am
- krazykiwi
  
  I’d suggest that if Poland and Hungary haven’t taken an migrants by now, a ‘call’ from the EU Migration Commissioner is going to have zero impact
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:43am
- Longknives
  
  How could any ‘Sanction’ possibly be worse than a million nutjob Muslims flooding into your Country unchecked?
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:53am
  - stephieboy
    
    Longknives , “a million nutjob Muslims ” ?
    
    Factual basis ?
    
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    May 17, 2017 11:32am
    - BassilFawlty
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE
      
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      May 17, 2017 1:24pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  They could take in the persecuted Christians from the ME as a work around. Notice how the stephiePhaggots and other Globohomos never mention Christians tortured and murdered in Mohammedan homelands.
  
  #Christian Lives Matter
  
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  May 17, 2017 9:55am
  - stephieboy
    
    You a (((( Christian )))))) ??
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:22am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Poland has currently got a huge number of Ukranians fleeing the war with Russia. The EU really needs to take that into account as well.
  
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  May 17, 2017 10:01am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Kind of the same issue I point out about NZ and our home grown Globohomos pushing for doubling the refugee quota.
    
    How many 100s of thousands of Dirt World cast offs have already been given access under the pretense of “skills shortages” + chain migration.
    
    #They Have To Go Back
    
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    May 17, 2017 10:07am
  - Kea
    
    There is no war with Russia. Thousand are fleeing Ukraine to escape the far right Neo-Nazis that have taken over the country and started a civil war.
    
    https://news.vice.com/article/why-record-numbers-of-ukrainian-jews-are-fleeing-to-israel
    
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    May 17, 2017 1:29pm
krazykiwi

Socialism Update : Venezuela, 2017

  ⚒ Wrecked economy. Inflation at 720 percent

  ⚒ Violence. 40 protesters killed, 750 injured

  ⚒ No justice. 2000 protesters detained and/or prosecuted in military courts

  ⚒ Starvation. 3 out of 4 Venezuelans going hungry, 2kg average weight loss

  ⚒ Fear. President supplies private militia groups with 400,000 weapons

Socialism destroys lives and leads to anarchy
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May 17, 2017 9:57am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Stop posting Hate Facts you f@king imperialistic white supremacist bigot!
  
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  May 17, 2017 10:18am
krazykiwi

I can’t for the life of me explain the stupidity of Theresa May’s plan to put a price cap on energy providers.

It’s stupid because:

❶ Price controls distort markets leading to uncertainty, lack of investment, loss of jobs (Deutsche Bank estimate a loss of 5000+ jobs due to this price cap)

❷ The consumer saving of ₤1.7b is on prices already inflated by ₤7.4b in so-called green taxes and levies.

Why is she doing this?
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May 17, 2017 10:14am
Lucia Maria

Trump, the continuing train wreck ….

Trump’s overseas trip must be canceled. The risks are too great

President Trump is scheduled to depart Friday on his first international trip as president, with scheduled visits in Saudi Arabia, Israel and the West Bank, and the Vatican, followed by attendance at meetings of NATO in Brussels and the G7 alliance in Sicily.

…Even for a capable president, Trump’s itinerary would represent an ambitious agenda. In Trump’s hands, though, it’s fraught with the perils of tweets, statements, misstatements, boasts or other inappropriate Trump outbursts that could trigger or intensify geopolitical and religious tensions. Beyond politics, the idea that Trump is capable of promoting even an iota of religious tolerance is almost too absurd to even address.

In short, the trip is a catastrophe waiting to happen.
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May 17, 2017 11:22am
- fernglas
  
  “Nato will reportedly put a time limit on speeches at an upcoming summit with Donald Trump, in an attempt to maintain the US President’s attention span.
  
  Speakers will be limited to between two and four minutes, sources within the organisation told Foreign Policy magazine. The summit of Nato’s 28 member countries will be held at the end of the month and the Belgian capital, Brussels.”
  
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  May 17, 2017 12:15pm
  - Brigitte
    
    Do you think it will take that long to say a max of 140 characters out loud?
    
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    May 17, 2017 1:23pm
- Kea
  
  Trump is increasingly popular. You might want to check your sources. The same sources who lied about his popularity for months before the election and same one you are referring to now.
  
  People have had enough of the lies and the msm. No decent person believes a word they say.
  
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  May 17, 2017 1:34pm
  - MCos
    
    I’m sure Trump is increasingly popular. With comedians, Russians . . . . . .
    
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    May 17, 2017 1:54pm
Jack5

Almost worth signing up for a paywall pass to the Telegraph for its report today on the TV series Three Girls, which is inspired by the Rochdale grooming scandal.

The headline on the review says the series describes how “white girls were sacrificed on the altar of multiculturism”. The Greater Manchester police wouldn’t act against the monsters preying on kids.

“Multiculturism” is going to become a dirty word.
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May 17, 2017 11:25am
- Manolo
  
  I do not believe for a second stephieboy would agree with you.
  
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  May 17, 2017 11:27am
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5 ,
  
  “Multiculturism” is going to become a dirty word.
  
  Like in Dunedin ?
  
  LOL !
  
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  May 17, 2017 11:34am
  - Jack5
    
    LOL, Stephie X, to the mass paedophilia in Britain by Muslim men?
    
    You are one sick little Mozzie, Stephie X.
    
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    May 17, 2017 11:50am
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack5 , you have consistently shown to be paranoid and hysterical with a totally warped sense of judgement etc .
      
      Dunedin the Medina of the South Pacific .
      
      LOL
      
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      May 17, 2017 12:56pm
    - Kea
      
      Jack5 paedophilia was rampant in all European cultures and continues on in the Catholic church. You won’t see it mentioned here, but orthodox Jewish churches have been rocked by pedo scandals all around the world. It is rampant. But not a word is mentioned in the media here. Funny that. But let me guess… its okay when Jews do it.
      
      http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/01/29/new-pedophile-scandal-and-cover-up-rocks-australias-jewish-community/
      
      http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99913807
      
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      May 17, 2017 1:03pm
- Kea
  
  ““Multiculturism” is going to become a dirty word.”
  
  Yes those Middle Eastern savages. I am sure you are going to condemn this too ?
  
  http://www.newsweek.com/2016/03/11/child-abuse-allegations-hasidic-ultraorthodox-jewish-community-brooklyn-432688.html
  
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  May 17, 2017 1:37pm
- Twinkletoes
  
  The direction not to act on these rape gangs came from the highest level in the land. He (Blair) thought it would disturb community relations so was quite happy to throw thousand of young white girls to the lions, rather than let the British find out about the enormity of the situation
  
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  May 18, 2017 1:27am
Fletch

Hillary is back in the game, starting up another political fundraising group which she has registered as a “social welfare” organization (yeh, right) which allows her to hide the names of donors.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Hillary-Clinton-launching-new-political-group-11147640.php

Feck, the woman is like a bad virus. I wish she’d just piss off.
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May 17, 2017 11:32am
Fletch

Breitbart points out the damaging intelligence leaked under Obama which the media did not seem concerned about.

[It was Panetta’s] loose talk after the Osama bin Laden raid that exposed a Pakistani doctor, Shakil Afridi, who helped locate the Al Qaeda leader. As a result, Afridi was imprisoned on fabricated charges and will live under fear of assassination for the rest of his life.

Panetta did not reveal that critical intelligence in a private meeting with a foreign emissary, but to the entire world, on CBS News’ 60 Minutes.

Even worse was the Obama White House’s decision to reveal that it was U.S. Navy SEAL Team 6 that carried out the bin Laden raid.

As Jeffrey Kushner recalled in the Washington Times: “On May 3, at an event in Washington, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. did the unthinkable: He publicly revealed the identity of the special-operations unit responsible for bin Laden’s killing. His reckless action put at risk the lives of every member of SEAL Team 6.”

The response came on August 6, 2011, when the Taliban shot down a Chinook helicopter in Afghanistan, killing 30 soldiers. Among the dead: 15 members of SEAL Team 6. Years later, the fallen heroes’ families remain outraged at the Obama administration: “In releasing their identity, they put a target on their backs,” one of the fathers told U.S. News and World Report in 2013.

The Obama administration chose to reveal classified information on a number of other occasions. It released information about the interrogation methods used with terrorists; claimed credit for the Stuxnet virus, exposing our Israeli intelligence partners in the process; and ordered the U.S. intelligence community to share information with the Cuban regime. All of these are far worse than what Trump reportedly shared.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/16/obama-panetta-blurted-classified-intel-bin-laden-raid-afridi/
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May 17, 2017 11:38am
- cha
  
  So, Trump didn’t leak but if he did leak, Trump leaks aren’t as bad as Obama leaks.
  
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  May 17, 2017 11:40am
  - Lance
    
    Now you are getting with the program cha
    
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    May 17, 2017 11:44am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    This latest Gay Stream Media failed hit job is not about leaks.
    
    From 2015 Joo Post:
    
    U.S. offers to share Syria intelligence on terrorists with Russia
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-offers-to-share-syria-intelligence-on-terrorists-with-russia/2016/06/30/483a2afe-3eec-11e6-84e8-1580c7db5275_story.html?utm_term=.f860045d8158
    
    So again, what are the Globohomos on about?
    
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    May 17, 2017 12:41pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Must be tough defending Trump, especially since he regularly comes out to totally kibosh the careful maneuvering that must be done with doozies like this one: Trump ‘asked FBI to halt Flynn inquiry’.
  
  Only the most stalwart and blinkered supporters will be able to sustain the effort to defend him soon.
  
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  May 17, 2017 12:10pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Only the most blinkered supporters of thecunt embittered by her catastrophic loss to alpha male Trump, would swallow the#Fake News of The Joo Post and the rest of the Gay Stream Media.
    
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    May 17, 2017 12:43pm
  - KevOB
    
    If a “newspiece” does not have its authors name and is not attributed to a real living person it’s not true.
    
    How can any country be governed with a deceiptful activist press? Time to bring back the middle ages and remove all former claimants to power, their assistants, hangers on, courtiers… The French have the technology.
    
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    May 17, 2017 1:46pm
Manolo

In NZ our multiculturalist leads the charge:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/congressional-dems-making-early-calls-for-trumps-impeachment.html

A small group of President Trump’s most outspoken critics has seized on the James Comey controversy to make a — very — early push for impeachment.
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May 17, 2017 12:02pm
fernglas

Impeachment is the wrong way to go. Despite what a small group of Democrats and academics think, Trump has not done anything to warrant impeachment and any move to impeach him would not have enough support.
The simple fact is that at present, Trump is not a competent President. The question is whether he can learn to be one, and that question is not one that can be answered by comparisons with Obama, Clinton or any other past Potus. Whether Obama leaked, or was incompetent, whether Clinton was corrupt or whatever, Trump has to be held to objective standards, otherwise he will be simply seen as the least bad option, rather than the great leader he aspires to be .
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May 17, 2017 12:22pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  ” The question is whether he can learn to be [a competent President”
  
  Here’s some good advice from an Alt Righter commentator:
  
  “The leaks are the real problem. My advice to Trump: Fire everybody, including Jared Kushner, and start from scratch. No one has your back, President Trump. but The Deplorables, so think about bringing in freelance outside help from parts of the country that actually voted for you.”
  
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  May 17, 2017 12:48pm
Fletch

The media are dogging Trump every step of the way, even leaking what happens in private diplomatic meetings where they have no business being. It’s a wonder he gets anything done at all.
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May 17, 2017 12:35pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, but not dogging the former President by Fox, WE, Breitbart , Infowars etc ?
  
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  May 17, 2017 12:38pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Are you kidding?!
    
    The Globohomos dominate the Gaystream Media:
    
    CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NYTimes, WashPost, Huff Po, AP, Reuters, Yahoo, MSN.
    
    ^Fake News Establishment and media whores.
    
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    May 17, 2017 12:51pm
    - sam green
      
      You are the funniest thing – do go on.
      
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      May 17, 2017 5:05pm
- cha
  
  private diplomatic meetings
  
  The business of the state as conducted by elected officials isn’t private.
  
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  May 17, 2017 12:43pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yes it is. The meetings themselves aren’t secret, but what is discussed, of course, is. No way is the public privy to every little thing discussed by nations, especially when it involves security issues.
    
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    May 17, 2017 1:31pm
    - cha
      
      of course, is.
      
      In your totalitarian dream world where Trump is tsar, perhaps.
      
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      May 17, 2017 1:46pm
- waripori
  
  They used to say” don’t buy a fight with anyone who buys ink by the barrel” There will be a digital equivalent. Trump spent the election campaign banning reporters from events and calling the media all sorts of names. He can hardly be surprised if some of them are no longer his friends.
  
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  May 17, 2017 1:01pm
  - Inandout
    
    Well, I own an Epson printer and I buy ink by the barrel.
    
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    May 17, 2017 3:16pm
- Kea
  
  The bottom feeding filth that makes up the anti Trump movement don’t care.
  
  You need to wake up and realise what sort of people you are dealing with here. They have carried out mass murders, kidnapped and tortured children and have been rioting in the streets screaming for the killing and rape of Trump supporters.
  
  The proper response to this threat is a military one. Civilian police are not equipped to deal with this level of organised violence. Anti Trumpers are a bigger and more immediate threat to us than any Muslim terrorist. There needs to be a purge of these people to ensure decent people are safe.
  
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  May 17, 2017 1:46pm
krazykiwi

Can’t be long before someone dubs Dead Or Alive’s You Spin Me Round to images of Team Oracle capsizing.
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May 17, 2017 12:45pm
- rangitoto
  
  Looks like Oracackle poodle BAR have been given the job of taking out any teams that might look like they could be competitive.
  
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  May 17, 2017 1:24pm
Kea

Pope reduces sanctions against some paedophile priests

Pope Francis has quietly reduced sanctions against a handful of paedophile priests, applying his vision of a merciful Church even to its worst offenders in ways that survivors of abuse and the Pope’s own advisers question.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/pope-reduces-sanctions-against-some-paedophile-priests/

Why are they not in prison ?

Self regulations of pedophiles, by pedophiles, is never going to work. Catholics are a pedophile cult that has raped and murdered thousands of innocent kids.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/07/catholic-church-children-buried-at-tuam-ireland
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May 17, 2017 1:25pm
- krazykiwi
  
  If you’d stopped with “Why are they not in prison ?”, an entirely fair question, I’d have +1’ed that.
  
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  May 17, 2017 1:42pm
  - Kea
    
    I really don’t care if I have the approval of Catholic apologists. You might have missed that.
    
    Any comment on your leader going soft on child rapists ?
    
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    May 17, 2017 1:48pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      My leader?
      
      I agreed with your assertion that the pedophile priests should be in prison.
      
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      May 17, 2017 1:53pm
      - Kea
        
        Here is a wee experiment, what what you have said if it were Muslims involved ?
        
        You would have condemned the institution, the crime and the person. This is how religion has destroyed your mind and turned you into a bigot. Things you condemn Muslims for become okay when a Jew or Christian does it. You just can not bring yourself to condemn the hideous wrongs of Jews at all, while savagely attacking Muslims.
        
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        May 17, 2017 1:58pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        kea, I would have said the same as above – pedophiles should be in prison. Not a quick learner on this one are you?
        
        As for savagely attacking Muslims have a read of my comments in this thread. Some extracts:
        
        I’m no Islamist apologist, but I suggest that you confuse correlation and causation
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        I’ve done plenty of business in Malaysia and Indonesia, the vast majority of it with Muslims. While it will be possible to cite extremism in both these counties, I have never experienced anything other than genuine warmth and hospitality
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        I guess the guy in Istanbul was making a religious statement, right? That or he was just a violent thug. There are 15m people living in Istanbul, and I dare say the thugs are over represented in the money-changer queues.
        
        Savage attacks indeed.
        
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        May 17, 2017 2:17pm
      - Kea
        
        Yeah I should have picked my target better 😉
        
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        May 17, 2017 2:29pm
Rachael Membery

Padriv Ustoev
@Rachel
Logic not your strong point I see.
If by your logic a woman who has sex every day with her husband has the same dick miles as a woman who has sex with a diffirent man once a year, then you are saying that a slut, is the same as a faithful wife.
It doesn’t make sense. You can’t have it both ways luv.

Sorry I couldn’t reply in situ.

Luv? and it wasn’t once a year it was the same frequency as the wife and yes the cock miles must be similar, duration not withstanding, what has faithfulness got to do with numbers of times a woman has had sex? Sexual partners yes, piston pumps, no. Slut and wife being moral judgments in your regard as differing ends of the spectrum.

I said the same thing to a Chorus man the other week, I was feeling sorry for him having to dig and find a phone fault, there were a few and it took him most of the day by hand, but then I thought if he wasn’t digging up my lawn he would be digging up someone elses as that was his job, to dig.
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May 17, 2017 1:51pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  If you felt that sorry for him you should have invited him in just to make sure the problem was not a loose wire in the bed side socket.
  
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  May 17, 2017 2:08pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    God, not pity sex or ffs just let me go to sleep sex or ffs just get it over with sex or are you there yet sex, or shall I fake it until you make it sex lol.
    I equate it to ‘water, water everywhere but not a drop to drink’!!!!
    
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    May 17, 2017 2:17pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  You’ve lost me. Lets get back to basics.
  
  Uptick if you prefer a wife with low dick miles who did not ride the cock carousel before she decided to settle down.
  
  Downtick if you you prefer your wife well used and “experienced”.
  
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  May 17, 2017 2:21pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Low or no miles? Oh baby you are the first and the best, I have waited for you and only you miles? Heavy petting count?
    Gets to the honeymoon and decides that you are not man enough or sex not as wonderful as you promised and never wants it again miles?
    I always found it funny that females were exhorted to be chaste from when they were young and how dirty sex was and the people that had it were, all to be thrown off with the veil on their wedding day, to be embraced with ‘enthusiasm’.
    I can remember thinking, ‘is that it’, what was all the fuss about?
    
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    May 17, 2017 2:43pm
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Quiet you. We are working on a popular consensus about what men want. Not what you think they want.
      
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      May 17, 2017 2:46pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Should the man have equally low mileage? I mean is it fair that a man should have been putting mileage on a woman’s clock when they know that it is not the one they wish to purchase but are happy to shop soil the goods.
    
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    May 17, 2017 2:48pm
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Never said he shouldn’t so you can go take your passive aggressive question for public debate instead of me.
      
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      May 17, 2017 3:09pm
cha

Circling the wagons.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C__Rz1GVwAA6NDB.jpg
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May 17, 2017 2:02pm
- Kea
  
  Its not enough. There needs to be a military response with you people rounded up and dealt with.
  
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  May 17, 2017 2:11pm
Fletch

Modern education –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM

Supposed to be funny, but it’s more true.
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May 17, 2017 2:32pm
JasonJohns

Biblical scholar denied freedoms in US:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/16/andrew-snelling-geologist-claims-grand-canyon-reli/
Luckily VP Pence stands ready to fight for Biblical Science and a young earth.
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May 17, 2017 2:57pm
- Kea
  
  “Biblical Science”
  
  Ignorant bronze age myths imported from the Middle East are not science.
  
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  May 17, 2017 2:59pm
- mikenmild
  
  The National Park Service won’t allow some random nutters to vandalise the Grand Canyon just because he believe biblical fairy stories.
  
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  May 17, 2017 7:34pm
krazykiwi

Do not execute, lest you be executed

An RAF Reaper drone interrupted a public execution by the Islamic State group after opening fire on the militants and driving them off, the Ministry of Defence has said.

The remote-controlled aircraft disrupted the display in a Syrian town by killing a sentry with a Hellfire missile.

The Reaper was flying an armed reconnaissance mission when it spotted a group of fighters from Islamic State in Iraq and Levant (Isil), also known as Daesh, in a main street in the town of Abu Kamal.

A statement from the MoD said: “When a van then unloaded two shackled prisoners in front of the crowd, it became clear that Daesh were organising a public execution.

The statement said: “A Hellfire missile was fired immediately, and scored a direct hit which not only killed one of the sentries but also brought the execution to an immediate halt, as the Daesh fighters fled the scene, and the crowd of civilians dispersed.”

Jolly good.
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May 17, 2017 3:10pm
- Kea
  
  I have to wonder about the mentality of you mindlessly repeating that propaganda.
  
  Do you understand that is a story about the USA killing people in a country on the other side of the world that has never attacked the USA ?
  
  The reason is Jewish radical extremists want Syria destroyed before they attack Iran. This is part of a global genocide to please the Jews.
  
  https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328
  
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  May 17, 2017 3:15pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    kea, My comment didn’t mention USA, or Jewish radicals, or Clinton, or global genocide. That’s a lot of squirrels from you.
    
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    May 17, 2017 3:29pm
Stars And Stripes

The $76 billion welfare bill
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92667418/the-state-of-welfare-beneficiaries-coming-off-quicker-costing-more.
“The good news is that welfare reforms and ministry management have slashed a collective 1.3 million years off the time beneficiaries are expected to receive a benefit, over their working lifetime.
But the estimated liability of the welfare system sits at $76 billion – $7.6b more than last year, according to the latest valuation of the future costs faced by the Ministry of Social Development”.

When you see it written like this it really is an absolutely staggering figure.
How long can the country continue to shell out this sort of largesse before something is going to give?.
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May 17, 2017 3:11pm
Jack5

Canterbury Leftist activist, Donna Miles-Mojab, makes a claim today in the Christchurch Press.

Miles-Mojab, British-born to Iranian parents, pops up at Leftish demonstrations in Christchurch.

Today in a commentary on a Press editorial article, she alleges the biggest threat to freedom of speech is Western governments’ reaction to Islamic terrorism.

Miles-Mojab includes in the article:

“In 1961, not far from the scene of the Charlie Hedbo attacks, 30,000 Muslim Algerians protested in a banned independence rally in Paris. Is is now acknowledged that 600 of them were murdered by French police units.”

When French President Hollande in 2012 more or less acknowledged the killing of protesters during the demonstrations, the number of deaths was put at around 200. The deaths seem to have occurred when police took Algerians they had beaten with batons and threw them off bridges into the Seine.

Just how this should be linked to the terrorists’ Charlie Hedbo attacks stumps me.

As the Stephieboy troll team does on Kiwiblog, Miles-Mojab brings in persecution of Jews. Are they trying to associate opposition to Muslim terrorism with Nazi genocide?

Miles-Mojab notes the Press article about the Charlie Hedboattacks says:

Worryingly, much like many debates that have followed since the Charlie Hedbo attacks, the editorial failed to mention the four Jewish people who were killed that day. Were those people no important enough, or is it that their murder in a kosher supermarket did not fall into the convenient narration of an article on free speech?

Propaganda from a Muslim apologist.

The Charlie Hedbo attacks were about free speech and punishment for editorial comment on the Islamic religion. The murder of the four unfortunate Jews was an end in itself.
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May 17, 2017 3:18pm
- Jack5
  
  Kea, that post is my gift target for your last, Kamikaze kea dive.
  
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  May 17, 2017 3:21pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Jack5, If you’d posted about a new ice-cream flavour, I feel certain kea would claim it was part of some extremist Jewish/Zionist plot to take over the world 😀
    
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    May 17, 2017 3:35pm
- Kea
  
  The biggest threat to freedom of speech is Jewish control of the media. They have a multi million dollar very well connected hate group, the ADL, who shut down any commentary unfavourable to Jews, while spreading lies and hate about non Jews. The Israeli regime hire teams of people to spread lies, hate and misinformation on blogs and social media, as well as msm.
  
  You can read Israeli news where they boast about shutting down free speech on YouTube Facebook etc. This is not some crack pot conspiracy, this come directly from sources written by Jews for Jews and published in Israel.
  
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  May 17, 2017 3:34pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Seriously kea, you’re one comment from kiwiblog oblivion… why not start you own blog and take your crusade there?
    
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    May 17, 2017 3:38pm
    - Kea
      
      Krazykiwi and Jack, any comment on the article written by a Jew, for Jews and published in the extreme pro Zionist Times of Israel, backing me up 100% ?
      
      Nah thought not.
      
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      May 17, 2017 3:41pm
    - Jack5
      
      A Kea blog? That would prove something.
      
      If Kea were sincere and believed his own bullshit, from irrational fear of a Mossad hit he would be too frightened to establish a Kea blog.
      
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      May 17, 2017 3:44pm
  - Jack5
    
    Kea, angry parrot, do you also allege that the internet is under Jewish control?
    
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    May 17, 2017 3:38pm
- Kea
  
  Jews DO Control The Media
  
  By Manny Friedman
  
  We have, for example, AIPAC, which was essentially constructed just to drive agenda in Washington DC. And it succeeds admirably. And we brag about it. Again, it’s just what we do.
  
  But the funny part is when any anti-Semite or anti-Israel person starts to spout stuff like, “The Jews control the media!” and “The Jews control Washington!”
  
  Suddenly we’re up in arms. We create huge campaigns to take these people down. We do what we can to put them out of work. We publish articles. We’ve created entire organizations that exist just to tell everyone that the Jews don’t control nothin’. No, we don’t control the media, we don’t have any more sway in DC than anyone else. No, no, no, we swear: We’re just like everybody else!
  
  Does anyone else (who’s not a bigot) see the irony of this?
  
  Let’s be honest with ourselves, here, fellow Jews. We do control the media. We’ve got so many dudes up in the executive offices in all the big movie production companies it’s almost obscene. Just about every movie or TV show, whether it be “Tropic Thunder” or “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is rife with actors, directors, and writers who are Jewish. Did you know that all eight major film studios are run by Jews?
  
  Written by a Jew and published in the extreme right wing Times of Israel. So feel free to cry “nazi anti Semite”
  
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  May 17, 2017 3:39pm
  - Jack5
    
    Lie back on the couch, Kea, relax, breathe deeply and talk to Doctor Jack.
    
    Now about those pesky Israelis you say have bugged your keyboard … you think you hear them laughing when your press return?
    
    Do they laugh in Arabic or Hebrew?
    
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    May 17, 2017 3:47pm
    - Kea
      
      Jack5, the difference between you and me is I do not need to tell lies and distract to defend my point of view. I love a good personal attack in the KB tradition, but there needs to be some attempt to tackle the topic. You have been shown up with even Jews backing me up.
      
      I do not wish any harm on Jews, or other religious groups. I just want the killing and other nonsense to stop. Where as you can not get enough killing of Muslims and other people hated by extremist Jews. I simply want no one hurt. I do not need to have double standards to support that view.
      
      You are a religious nut job. Face it.
      
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      May 17, 2017 3:53pm
      - Jack5
        
        Now Kea, relax. Concentrate a little, please.
        
        We were talking about the laughter that you hear coming from your keyboard.
        
        Is it hearty Jewish laughter, or is it Arabs laughing?
        
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        May 17, 2017 3:56pm
      - Kea
        
        This started with your lunatic claim that Mooooooslems control the media. You were then presented with the truth and have been trying to distract ever since.
        
        Stop the lies.
        
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        May 17, 2017 5:14pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    If you think you can successfully assert that “Jews Control The Media” with an opinion from a hedge fund manager then I have a bridge for you.
    
    No, more likely this opinion fits your personal narrative, so it find it’s way onto our monitors intending to persuade, but instead laying bare your hatred of Jews (and Catholics, and Christians, and [insert religious group]).
    
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    May 17, 2017 3:52pm
    - Kea
      
      Its a matter of public record that Jews do own and control much of the worlds media and Hollywood. Just as Manny Friedman said.
      
      Telling lies and making personal attacks to defend the Jews will not get you a place in heaven. Sorry about that old chap 🙂
      
      I do not hate Jews. I simply do not buy into adopting Jewish hatreds as justification for war and killing. I want the wars to stop. That is all.
      
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      May 17, 2017 3:56pm
      - Jack5
        
        So you’re a pacifist, Kea.
        
        You should have said. Would have saved all this angst and noise. Peace, brother! 😈
        
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        May 17, 2017 4:00pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        I do not hate Jews
        
        That claim is manifestly untrue. With the exception of you being cornered in a debate, practically every post you make here demonstrates a deep-seated hatred towards Jews and/or Christians and/or Catholics.
        
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        May 17, 2017 4:04pm
      - Kea
        
        Pointing out wrongs that Jews/Israelis/Zionists may have done is not hate. Nor are facts. On that basis every negative comment you make must be driven by consuming hatred of the group that person identifies with. Of course that is silly, but that is how you react to anything critical of Jews.
        
        Meanwhile you pour out torrents of filth and lies about Muslims. KB has become little more that a anti Muslim hate site populated by the lunatic fringe of zionism. The stuff on here, most days, would get a lifetime ban on Stormfront. However you do get banned if you are critical of Jews.
        
        But this chat started on the absurd basis Muslims control the media LOL 🙂
        
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        May 17, 2017 4:36pm
  - EAD
    
    Thanks Kea – it is incredible seeing the double standards that are applied to the behaviour of the Jews compared with any other race on the planet.
    
    I long concluded that the venom faced by anyone brave enough to stick their head above the parapet is either from Hasbara trolls, people who have bought into the Scofield bible narrative and believe that Jews are somehow special, or, most likely, they suffer under the mental weight from the spell of Holcostanaity whereby the Goyim forever should be forever damned for the alleged crime of the German people in WWII and no actions of Jews should ever be discussed in a critical manner. I use the word “alleged” because in 22 countries in Europe (i.e. those where there a first hand witnesses) it is criminal offence to question the official version of this singular event in human history. Why? It is not as if the truth needs such protection from investigation – only lies do.
    
    Without the Magic Cloak of Thee Holocaust, Jews would be seen by the rest of the world as they always used to be: annoying untrustworthy pesky criminal shysters, liars, spivs, chancers, peddlars of smut and filth, arrogant, bloodthirsty, materialistic, anti-Christ, craven, underhand, devious, crooked, undesirable money-lenders, crooks, fraudsters, deviants, Semitic, Asiatic, FOREIGN , STRANGE, OTHER: ALIEN
    
    Thee Holocaust is the pillar that supports the whole crooked enterprise.
    
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    May 17, 2017 6:35pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD , would you like to begin by clarifying your views regards Muslims especially those refugees from Syria who have allegedly invaded Western Europe . Also the 50,000 living here and rumours swirling around about so called Mt Roskill Stan.
      
      Kea has now joined EAD’s Team Holocaust denial ?
      
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      May 17, 2017 6:47pm
      - Kea
        
        No we just don’t tell lies about the German people, such as they made lamp shades out of Jews and other fables.
        
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        May 17, 2017 8:24pm
Kea

Bringing down Assad would not only be a massive boon to Israel’s security, it would also ease Israel’s understandable fear of losing its nuclear monopoly. Then, Israel and the United States might be able to develop a common view of when the Iranian program is so dangerous that
military action could be warranted.
Hillary Clinton

The hatred and contempt the Jews have for non Jews is well known throughout history, but few people understand how fanatical their hate is towards the Persians. One of the biggest celebrations on the Jewish calendar [Purim] is a festival of hate towards the Persians, with them hanging effigies of dead Persians in the street. This is in modern day USA !

The destruction of Syria is simply a prelude to attacking Iran. Israel is a nuclear armed terrorist state run by religious nut jobs who think they are doing gods work and are taking us to world war 3
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May 17, 2017 3:27pm
- Kimbo
  
  One of the biggest celebrations on the Jewish calendar [Purim] is a festival of hate towards the Persians, with them hanging effigies of dead Persians in the street.
  
  Don’t usually engage with your trolling, but as you scorn Bronze Age theology (indeed, the events of the Book of Esther occur in the Iron Age, the early 5th Century BC to be more precise) it is no wonder you can’t get your facts right. The effigy of scorn at Purim is Haman, described in the Book of Esther as an “Agagite”. Their exact location and ethnicity is unknown, but like the Jews they were likely a subject people of the Persians at the time.
  
  Oh, yes, and in the Book of Isaiah the Medo-Persian king, Cyrus the Great is referred to in an oracle by Yahweh’s prophet as “his anointed/Messiah”, and (as with king David, later applied to Jesus), “my shepherd” on account of his decision to release the Jews from the captivity which was first visited on them by the…Babylonians. As a result, on balance, the Persians are given a positive press in the Scriptures.
  
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  May 17, 2017 4:41pm
  - Kea
    
    Why do Jewish apologists lie so much ?
    
    Would you defend this if Muslims hung effigies of Jews in the streets of New York each year ?
    
    At least have the balls to be honest about your hypocrisy bigotry and ignorant religious hatred.
    
    http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2015/03/purim-in-borough-park-may-shock-you.html
    
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    May 17, 2017 4:54pm
    - Kimbo
      
      …and so if we burn a guy on November 5 (Guy Fawkes), that’s a sign we want Roman Catholics executed as traitors and recusants?
      
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      May 17, 2017 5:02pm
      - Kea
        
        Kimbo, you would not being justifying it if Persians hung effigies of Jews in the streets of New York. Admit it, you are a religious nut job and religion has rotten your mind. The double standards and lies are breathtaking.
        
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        May 17, 2017 5:05pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Would you defend this if Muslims hung effigies of Jews in the streets of New York each year ?
        
        As per above, if it was something like Purim or Guy Fawkes…yes. See ya later, troll…
        
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        May 17, 2017 5:10pm
  - Kea
    
    THE NEW JEWISH HATE HOLIDAY
    
    The Feast of Purim commemorates the Jewish infiltration and destruction of Persia and the calculated, cold- blooded murder of a Persian patriot named Haman, who was falsely accused of adultery due to the machinations of Jew named Mordecai.
    
    http://vikingalthing.org/article/the-new-jewish-hate-holiday-rachel-corrie-vitriol-haman-and-purim/
    
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    May 17, 2017 5:03pm
- stephieboy
  
  kea,
  
  “One of the biggest celebrations on the Jewish calendar [Purim] is a festival of hate towards the Persians, with them hanging effigies of dead Persians in the street.”
  
  A flagrant lie !
  
  http://www.chabad.org/holidays/purim/article_cdo/aid/645309/jewish/What-Is-Purim.htm
  
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  May 17, 2017 6:48pm
stephieboy

Kea,

“The hatred and contempt the Jews have for non Jews is well known throughout history, but few people understand how fanatical their hate is towards the Persians.”

Untrue e.g Darius the Great

http://www.bible-history.com/archaeology/persia/darius-seated-close.html

and,

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/10/opinion/10iht-edweiss.2165689.html
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May 17, 2017 4:03pm
- Kea
  
  Great. You can be at the front when Iran is attacked.
  
  Many Jews are fine people and agree with me. Not you so much though.
  
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  May 17, 2017 4:24pm
dad4justice

Oh how sad the mad Kea has ruined another general debate. God I pray his lifetime ban is only hours away. Does make you wonder how some bloggers actually tick. Disturbing stuff.

Long live Israel.
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May 17, 2017 4:24pm
- Kea
  
  Hi Dad. Any problems today with Muslims and homos ? 🙂
  
  “Long live Israel.”
  
  Yep the racist terrorist state formed on the basis of religious bullshit that recently declared war on us and implemented sanction against us.
  
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  May 17, 2017 4:27pm
  - dad4justice
    
    No problems with either today Israel is not run by religious nut jobs. I take exception to that croc of shit. Do those political parastic wasted spaces that infest that Shithive still start the farce with a prayer when they sit on their fat arses to talk shit?
    
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    May 17, 2017 4:31pm
    - Kea
      
      There are some Jews with very extreme views fueled by religion. They have carried out terrorist acts and bombings and are no better than Muslim extremists.
      
      Of course now they have the goy of the USA and other countries carry out their dirty work, so they can keep their hands clean. Not much need for homemade bombs when you can have the Yanks carry out an airstrike and invade countries on your behalf.
      
      Eg: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328
      
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      May 17, 2017 4:40pm
    - stigie
      
      “Does make you wonder how some bloggers actually tick.”
      
      Most here wonder how you tick Dad and taking exception to some of the shit that’s written..?
      
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      May 17, 2017 5:08pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Look stigfly go back into your locked room and take more psychotropic medication to help your miserable life and with your unhealthy fixation with me. Go away you deranged stalker. You are beyond a joke just go away. Start your own blog like I have. You are always trying to start a flame war. F##K OFF.
        
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        May 17, 2017 5:14pm
      - stigie
        
        Good ole Dad, always the gentleman !!
        
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        May 17, 2017 5:20pm
      - Kea
        
        “Start your own blog like I have”
        
        Great can I join Dad ? 🙂
        
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        May 17, 2017 5:26pm
krazykiwi

Merkel might view Macron with skepticism and hope, but looks can be deceiving 🙂
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May 17, 2017 4:40pm
Kea

“Long live Israel.”

Background to how Israel nearly went to war with New Zealand
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1612/S00104/background-to-how-israel-nearly-went-to-war-with-new-zealand.htm

New Zealand could still face further sanctions from Israel after leading a UN Security Council motion against the nation over its settlement policy.
http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=239978&fm=newsmain%2Cnarts

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Love the dishonest weasel words. Do we refer to Nazi “settlers” occupying traditional historic Germanic home lands, when talking about the war ?

It is a military invasion of another country and nothing else.
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May 17, 2017 4:48pm
Longknives

Just for Kea-

http://thechive.com/2012/04/17/beautiful-girls-of-the-israeli-army-31-photos/

How in the hell could you not support this Army??
Jesus they could invade us and I’d be on their side…
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May 17, 2017 5:05pm
- Kea
  
  Like I said, I don’t hate Jews and they can play solider all they like, as long as they don’t invade other countries and murder kids… as they are doing.
  
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  May 17, 2017 5:08pm
- dad4justice
  
  Jesus is on their side longdives. I am glad you don’t hate Jews unlike that demented foaming at the mouth parrot.
  
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  May 17, 2017 5:08pm
  - Kea
    
    Jesus was killed by them LOL 🙂
    
    At least you are honest enough to admit your views are informed by religious nuttery.
    
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    May 17, 2017 5:24pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”Jesus is on their side”…..
    
    If their survival is dependent on a magic man representing a mythical deity then they are in worse trouble than I thought!
    
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    May 17, 2017 5:34pm
    - Kea
      
      At least dad comes right out and states his view is based on religion, unlike the others with their sleazy lies to justify wrongs done by Jews.
      
      Funny thing is out of all the Abrahamic religions I prefer Judaism, mainly due to their strong intellectual culture, with Islam being my least favourite for not having one.
      
      However that does not make wrongs into rights.
      
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      May 17, 2017 5:43pm
  - Longknives
    
    D4J Hate Jews? Hell if they invaded NZ I’d commit ‘Vichy-like’ Treason and happily take the Death Penalty for the three girls in pic 13..
    
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    May 17, 2017 6:00pm
    - dad4justice
      
      I agree if a man struck that trifecta with those babes in pic 13 he wouldn’t stop smiling for a year. Peter Davis, Sam Green or Tim Barnett wouldn’t understand.
      
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      May 17, 2017 6:34pm
      - sam green
        
        But you told me you were gay dad – when you – you know ……..
        
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        May 17, 2017 9:34pm
      - sam green
        
        Glad I figure in your dreams though …?
        
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        May 17, 2017 10:00pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From 2003, here’s Steriogram and Walkie Talkie Man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7UvbwCjXUk

Such a cool video.
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May 17, 2017 5:51pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Great vid. Love the knitted reel-to-reel tape deck 🙂
  
  … and may the fleas of a million camels inflict the armpits of your regular downticker
  
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  May 17, 2017 6:13pm
- dad4justice
  
  Great song and video cheers. To the downticker go take a cyanide capsule you miserable excuse for a human being.
  
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  May 17, 2017 6:38pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Wishing death on someone on a blog probably makes you the miserable excuse for a human being. Just saying.
    
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    May 17, 2017 7:41pm
    - dad4justice
      
      When you reach 30,000 ejaculations on kiwiblog I will send you such a pill.
      
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      May 17, 2017 8:17pm
      - mikenmild
        
        That seems a little uncharitable; after all my efforts to help you overcome your handicaps.
        
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        May 17, 2017 8:19pm
Awww C-mon

Double ? Rainbows ???

Not tonight trendsetters we are aiming for double meltdowns!!

Taking bets on who hits the home run first? The Birdbrained Dad or the insane Kea??
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May 17, 2017 7:51pm
- dad4justice
  
  C mon Awwwful be a nice troll or better still try and find an identity that has a backbone. Another neurotic fan club member completely lacking a life. Boring,cowardly no life trolls. So many jellyfish trolls these days.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:12pm
  - mikenmild
    
    How did you celeb.rate IDAHO today, D4J?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Day_Against_Homophobia,_Transphobia_and_Biphobia
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:15pm
  - Kea
    
    “So many jellyfish trolls these days”
    
    Funny how the KB “Trolls” have a reasoned point while the non-Trolls simply name call and present no reasoned logical argument.
    
    Possibly because Trolls do not adopt the religious hatreds of the non-Trolls.
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:31pm
    - dad4justice
      
      Do all kiwiblog trolls hate Jews as much as you do Kea?
      
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      May 17, 2017 8:48pm
      - Kea
        
        I don’t hate Jews. I just do not excuse their wrongs simply for being Jews. I treat all people equally.
        
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        May 17, 2017 9:49pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Hey Dad… your pills, the ones from the doctors… take them aye, you will feel so much better. The anxiety decreases, the paranoia fades and the voices will go quiet for awhile.
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:34pm
    - dad4justice
      
      How orginal, yawn, yawn, go do your homework you silly young nutbar troll.
      
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      May 17, 2017 8:46pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        BTW, I’m sitting here having a beer with Clint, he sends his love and reckons you are still the best fuck he’s ever had…. congratulations on that I suppose
        
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        May 17, 2017 8:48pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Whatever troll. Clint died of aids in 2008 how come you still alive. Don’t answer goodbye loose unit.
        
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        May 17, 2017 8:53pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        I’m drinking the beer, he’s chatting from the other side… did you dodge the bullet and not get infected?
        
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        May 17, 2017 8:57pm
      - sam green
        
        He’s positive – but just not sayin’
        
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        May 17, 2017 9:36pm
krazykiwi

Bugger! Bugger! Bugger!

‘Fat but fit’ idea is a medical myth, researchers find

The idea of “healthy obesity” is a myth, a study of 3.5 million Britons suggests.

Having excess fat increases the risk of suffering heart disease by half – even when blood pressure and cholesterol levels are normal, according to the research.

People regarded as obese but healthy also have an increased risk of stroke and almost double the risk of heart failure, researchers found.

This is me. No dessert tonight. Or tomorrow.
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May 17, 2017 7:55pm
Monique Watson

No more KFC for you KrazyKiwi.
Have a theory it’s better for your health to drink your calories. Could be just me and I blew a 303 (non driving) tonight so I may not be the most reliable source of advice.
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May 17, 2017 8:16pm
GoVege

Saw a beautiful doggy today on “Border Control”.
When she found the drugs, her tail wagged so much I expected her to become airborne.
Then I had a brainwave….what if they taught piggies to detect drugs?
Maybe the increased status would make them less popular as food?
Apparently in France they use them to locate truffles and they are better at it than dogs.
Could it be pigs would make better detectors of drugs?
If so, why aren’t we using them?
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May 17, 2017 8:25pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Great idea GoVege, if only because it would probably stop muzzies trying to cross the border.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:33pm
  - Kea
    
    We have a Jew problem not a Muslim one. No Muslim country has taken sanctions against us and threatened war.
    
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    May 17, 2017 8:40pm
    - Twinkletoes
      
      Islam has been at war with unbelievers since the prophet demanded that there would be no peace in the world until the whole word lived under the laws of Allah. This is the mandate that he demanded his followers bring to pass, either by dawa ) preaching and converting or using his original method of war and ethnic cleansing.
      
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      May 18, 2017 1:55am
- Kea
  
  “Saw a beautiful doggy today on “Border Control”.”
  
  Hopefully the pigs won’t shoot it.
  
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  May 17, 2017 8:43pm
Kea

Want to watch wife beaters, thugs and druggies grope each other in a paddock ?

Tickets just $1000

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/92664102/sale-of-complimentary-tickets-to-all-blacks-v-lions-test-under-investigation
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May 17, 2017 8:38pm
Ross12

I have lost count but how many PMs will it make for Aussie in recent years if this happens?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/credlin-turnbull-sacking-now-open-conversation-with-mps/news-story/28a2aacf42db5a7a48c9464ab3daae2a
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May 17, 2017 8:40pm
Monique Watson

Moving right along to the important issues;

https://affotd.com/2012/04/16/eight-of-the-highest-blood-alcohol-levels-of-all-time/
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May 17, 2017 8:55pm
Captain Mainwaring

Was this a wise investment?
I was advised by a former crew member (now sadly deceased) of this rustbucket that any prospective passengers seeing what there is below decks would soon change their minds.
And it’s a bow-loader, a configuration not really suited to pounding into Cook Strait southerlies.
What happened to the old-fashioned concept of buying purpose-built new vessels, or have we been taken over by the used import mentality?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/business/92708443/kiwirail-swoops-on-opportunity-to-buy-nzs-largest-ferry
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May 17, 2017 8:55pm
Monique Watson

You’re right Captain. I’ve been on the Kaitaki and it sucks in a southerly. The Irish did well out of the deal. I think NZer’s suck at negotiating in cases like this. Sure it would be fine as a back up but not as flagship of the Inter islander line. Agree re used import mentality.
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May 17, 2017 9:29pm
Manolo

The smell of blood:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/333803-first-republicans-talk-impeachment-for-trump
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May 18, 2017 5:52am
Manolo

The new sultan’s defenders:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/17/erdogans-bodyguards-in-violent-clash-with-protesters-in-washington-dc
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