General Debate 13 May 2017

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duggledog

If I were a female reporter / presenter at RNZ I would be seriously considering my options.

Possibly in the interests of diversity, they now have to call themselves ‘hoes’

For example, ‘Ko Katrina Batten, a Hoe’ or ‘Ko Katherine Ryan, a Hoe’

It’s awful to hear a respected journalist self-flagellating like that.
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May 13, 2017 8:03am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  OMG! I didn’t realise it was Maori I thought Kartina just had a funny name that sounded like “Call Katrina Batten a hoe!”
  
  I had to put up with listening to National Radio over summer. At least it made me constantly aware of tax payers being used to fund yet another Cultural Marxist agitprop operation. Wall to wall Leftoid man hating anti capitalist propaganda.
  
  National Radio needs to be defunded. The comrades working there will be forced to try make a living doing something that is at least somewhat economically productive.
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:19am
  - VicParking
    
    The above is a good point. For the 93% of us kiwi’s who can’t speak maori I think Red Radio should be providing us with a translation of the Maori spoken by the announcers. That way would not think day after day that Katrina is a hoe.
    I also think for us hard of hearing that they should have a Signer in the studio as well.
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:50am
    - mikenmild
      
      Really. You think the use of simple greeting, etc should be accompanied by a translation?
      Seeing you call it ‘Red Radio’ why would you be listening anyway?
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:21am
      - cmm
        
        Do you think the greatings are any more than silly posturing?
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:24am
      - mikenmild
        
        No more than I would hearing a Hawaiian broadcaster saying ‘aloha’ was silly.
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:58am
      - VicParking
        
        Every body knows what Aloha means just like every one knows what Kia ora means.
        Hell if I know what I’m a hoe means
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:23am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Slutty
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:38am
      - mikenmild
        
        It’s sad when such simple Maori expressions are so mystifying to people who like to pretend on blogs that they are intelligent and well informed.
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:44am
      - Longknives
        
        How does speaking Maori prove intelligence Mikenmild?
        *Having travelled extensively I speak a little of several languages- but no Maori whatsoever. (And I have no desire or need to)
        Does this make me some kind of ‘Thicko’?
        
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        May 13, 2017 12:39pm
      - Jack5
        
        There’s more to this than Radio NZ announcers tossing in Maori expressions.
        
        It’s part of the agreement between Radio NZ and the network of 21 Maori radio stations – Te Whakaruruhau o Nga Reo Irirangi Maori. These stations are mostly funded by Te Mangai Pao, the State funding agency for Maori broadcasting.
        
        Under the deal, Radio NZ gives the Maori stations access to its programming and news. Radio NZ chief executive Paul Thompson said last August in announcing the deal that the Maori stations would also “tap into RNZ’s expertise at transforming itself from a radio broadcaster into a multimedia content creator”.
        
        It might amuse some with fading hearing when an RNZ announcer appears to introduce herself as “Hoe X”, but there are serious issues here.
        
        On the Maori side of the agreement with Radio NZ were John Tamihere and Willy Jackson, who has emerged as Maori campaign director for the Labour Party.
        
        Since the agreement was signed, Radio NZ has, to a mild degree, “Maorified” itself.
        
        With no political announcements of the changes, it appears a though the Radio NZ board is sailing ahead itself with big issues for the State broadcaster. The big one is transforming a State radio service into a State internet service. I haven’t seen any reports of politicians’ discussions about this.
        
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        May 13, 2017 12:55pm
      - Kimbo
        
        *Having travelled extensively I speak a little of several languages- but no Maori whatsoever. (And I have no desire or need to)
        Does this make me some kind of ‘Thicko’?
        
        In the NZ context, and the failure to understand (not even speak!) simple and increasingly common Maori vocabulary when it is mentioned in passing, yes. But your ‘Thicko’-ness is a matter of volition rather than nature or nurture.
        
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        May 13, 2017 2:26pm
  - lifesgood
    
    And every failed left wing TV personality (I use personality loosely) gets a job on Red Radio. It’s quite alarming but utterly predictable.
    
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    May 13, 2017 1:26pm
- Huevon
  
  It’s a display of white guilt and self-loathing. Pathetic.
  
  Within 25 years, it will be inshallah and allahu abkar.
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:19am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I know what they mean. Akin to ‘danger, danger Will Robinson’ no lol either!!!!!
    
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    May 13, 2017 12:42pm
- Nukuleka
  
  I love the way RNZers desperately attempt to sound so correct with their Maori pronunciation. Not sure how they manage to turn Kerikeri into ‘kiddy kiddy’ but they do. I recognise that English is a minefield of pronunciation (yes, ‘ghoti’ really could be pronounced ‘fish’ in English) but the early missionaries simply transcribed the Maori they heard being spoken into comparable English sounds, didn’t they? Had they heard ‘kiddy kiddy’ then I reckon they would probably have written it that way. However they didn’t!
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:29am
  - mikenmild
    
    Are you suggesting that modern Maori have deliberately changed the pronunciation of their own language?
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:49am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Probably an academic in Maori Affairs in Wellington made the call several years ago.
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:08am
      - mikenmild
        
        Bullshit. You don’t seriously expect anyone to believe that someone ‘decided’ on a new way of pronouncing te reo.
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:22am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Whoever writes the “pronunciation guidelines” gets to decide on the pronunciation.
        That’s how it works.
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:28am
      - Jack5
        
        Odakyu-sen is on the right track. There are bureaucrats and activists who dream up Maori words, such as for new technology. (In more vibrant languages, foreign terms are instead co-opted.)
        
        As in English, you can bet these Te Reo experts are trying to influence pronunciation.
        
        Meanwhile, regional differences persist in Maori pronunciation, as in the “k” sounds in the South Island. If the Maori language does bounce back, expect even more language bureaucrats, who will fill their days partly by disputing what is authentic pronunciation.
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:36am
      - Kiwi Dave
        
        This is a reply to mikenmild.
        
        Odakyu-sen’s comment is not quite as far-fetched as it sounds. My understanding is that there is some standardisation of Maori pronunciation going on, probably accelerated by the decline in the number of genuine native speakers and the rise of Maori as a formally taught language. Standardisation is quite normal in other countries with the spread of a national form of a language at the expense of local variations.
        Edit: OS and J5 have made the same point.
        
        Even if my speculation is wrong, I still think Nukuleka has a valid point. Sounds and sound distinctions which are obvious to native speakers are often much less obvious to speakers of another language and inconsistent with standard practice in the new language, so words moving from one language to another are often modified along with their grammar to ease the non-native speaker’s speaking burden. Some people see this normal modification as racist mangling; others see the use of the original form in the new language as needless and pretentious verbal contortion.
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:04am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yes, there has been standardisation of Maori pronunciation and spelling.
        
        I am W(h)anganui born and bred and for nearly 40 years of my life I never heard that city pronounced as Fonganui… either it was Wanganui (pakeha) or
        W(h)anganui.. where W(h) represents an aspirated W sound (as in where, what, when,etc).
        
        Similarly, I never heard Kofai (kowhai), fare (whare)
        fetu (whetu).
        
        The East Coast pronunciation of Maori was taken as the standard back in the 1980s.
        
        West coast Maori have spoken of their fears that their dialect has been drowned out…
        http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/250479/warning-minority-dialects-could-be-lost
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:25am
    - cmm
      
      From my admittedly limited understanding, there is no One True Te Reo. Instead there are regional variations.
      
      It was only the White Man who codified Te Reo. Standard Te Reo is a Pakeha invention.
      
      Many languages have no standard pronunciation (try “fish” in English and you get fish, feesh, fush,…), but at least there is an accepted “official” form.
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:29am
      - wiseowl
        
        They should have paid us for codifying.
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:52am
      - mikenmild
        
        I think it is going way too far to say it is now a ‘Pakeha invention’. There was been a certain amount of standardisation, although regional difference persist.
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:00am
      - SGA
        
        From my admittedly limited understanding, there is no One True Te Reo. Instead there are regional variations.
        
        So? Same is true for English, especially in the UK, where pronunciation, idiom, and even vocabulary can vary quite dramatically across regions. Probably more so than existed with Maori, I’d hazard a guess. Bill Bryson’s “The Mother Tongue” is a fun read on the topic. Try telling an American that BBC pronunciation is the “official” form 🙂
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:08am
      - SGA
        
        Wee, sleekit, cowran, tim’rous beastie,
        O, what a panic’s in thy breastie!
        Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
        Wi’ bickering brattle!
        I wad be laith to rin an’ chase thee,
        Wi’ murd’ring pattle!
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:14am
    - sooty
      
      There is probably a whole army of people beavering away, getting paid mega bucks and perks, office accomidation, office supplies, computors, vehicles. Why, is the office somewhere in the industrial wilderness, paying cheap rent? How much is maori paying to support their unwritten words?
      
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      May 13, 2017 12:05pm
  - Kiwi Dave
    
    ‘ghoti’ really could be pronounced ‘fish’ in English)…
    
    Pedantically speaking, no, it can’t be, unless you are willing to ignore quite regular rules of pronunciation. The digraph ‘gh’ sounds eff only at the end of a syllable, never at the beginning of a word. Likewise, the pronunciation of ‘ti’ as ‘sh’ is position dependent, beginning an unstressed syllable and followed by a vowel.
    
    However, less pedantically and in the spirit of G B Shaw’s jest, if radio announcers wish to self-identify with a useful gardening tool, that’s ok with me, though it does raise doubts about the accuracy of anything else they say.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:25am
  - RF
    
    No one can beat the way Danny Watson the white Maori tortured the Maori language. He used to dislocate his tongue trying to pronounce Maori words.
    
    Thank god he has gone.
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:27am
- timmydevo
  
  Just out of interest, I’d love to know commentators age brackets. I wonder if there’s a direct correlation between age and maintaining status quo on, well, anything potentially slightly different. Oh, how it must hurt!
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:41am
  - wiseowl
    
    Devo,
    You will find the more experienced visitors here who have witnessed the slow dismantling of our country have the ability to comprehend what is happening.
    Experience can bring wisdom as opposed to snow flakes who think they know everything while still in nappies.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:08am
    - Disaster Area
      
      Conversely, you may find that the less experienced commentators on here are not as scared by change.
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:43am
    - timmydevo
      
      Oh I know, Owl. I do appreciate the sentiment. I have said before, I have learned a lot through Kiwiblog, as I do admit, I am young(ish) and I do come here to increase my wisdom from others’ experiences.
      However, the frustrating part is that I straddle the divide. I believe in individualistic pursuits and responsibility, which is a reason I come here. To fuel up. To be inspired (through the mire) and to, as I’ve said, gain wisdom. Many of my friends are left-learning. I won’t call them names, as that’s quite immature. However, they wanted social change to happen, well, yesterday. And while I respect that, I don’t always agree with them. Hence the reason I keep coming back here… I need to build my experience from those who can recall the 70s-80s like it happened yesterday so I can continue cementing my beliefs.
      So catch my dilemma?
      When I see the “experienced” (as you say) slagging off the things, like hearing Māori on RNZ, it’s kind of frustrating. I have taken the time to learn some Māori. To get pronunciation semi-right. I’ve learned a lot about the English language, as well as understanding the construction of other languages, through learning just an iota of Te Reo. It’s not scary. However, that’s just me, trying to straddle the divide. Just trying to understand and keep my mind flexible.
      I guess what I expect from the “experienced” is constructive topical-reaction, to set the example to the younger “righters” on responding in a way that is higher and more factual than the lefts emotional responses then just venting shit here.
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:55am
      - mikenmild
        
        Ka pai.
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:01am
      - Jack5
        
        I’m not sure what you’re getting at here, Timmydevo.
        
        Blogs are more like street meetings than discussions in Parliament or church synods, and DPF and Kokila Patel run a good General Debate thread, with a lot of tolerance.
        
        A big problem for Maori is that it’s up against the current world lingua franca, and, up against the language which is the vehicle of world popular culture.
        
        I think Maori language will have more chances of surviving if people are enticed into learning it, rather than browbeaten into learning it.
        
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        May 13, 2017 1:19pm
  - Paulus
    
    Tariana Turia never pronounced WHanganui and she lives there. It was always long w Wanganui.
    
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    May 13, 2017 1:52pm
- Paulus
  
  And they now have to pronounce the major non Maori named cities in Maori – creeping………..
  What is the Maori name for a Hoe ?
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:14am
  - mikenmild
    
    Must be pretty difficult to say Poneke or Akarana…
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:24am
    - Viking2
      
      Try Lower Hutt or Wellington.
      Its mindless bullshit posturing by a few who see the world as Maori and then of course there is Ngatai National and Ngatai Labour who along with their Mates Ngatai Maori and Ngatai Greens encouraging their useless pursuit of the stone age people of NZ.
      
      New Zealand of course has been bastardized to Aoteoroa, which is a bit like all those Balkan state names which one cannot understand nor pronounce.
      
      Total waste of energy and the sort of time and money wasting exercises that leave NZ with our low productivity and our lowering standard of living and our failure to earn our way in the world.
      
      I should point out that our failure to earn our way results in high cost of living, high interest rates and all that goes with those two which in turn encourages all the whingers and moaners and the constant barrage about the fucking poor. ( Of course headed by those that sup the trough.)
      
      time we had another Roger Douglass at the reins. Chop out the waste.
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:52am
      - mikenmild
        
        Lower Hutt. Should be changed to a good name like Awakairangi or Heretaunga.
        But some people would want to cling to names commemorating nineteenth century colonialists who never even came here.
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:03am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Drain the swamp?
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:30am
    - Jack5
      
      Milky, you could live up to your words in today’s GD, by changing your pseudonym to something more Maori.
      
      How about Mikaere matou humarie?
      
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      May 13, 2017 1:28pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    What is the Maori name for a Hoe ?
    
    Gardening implement – tipitipi
    Prostitute – kairau
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:38am
- simpleton1
  
  First google strike.
  
  ho 1
  həʊ/
  noun informal
  a prostitute.
  offensive
  a woman.
  
  It does sound like self advertising.
  I guess it depends on your taste in woman.
  
  Then ‘young nick’ probably did yell out “Land ho”.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:36am
- KevOB
  
  Utter rubbish: a bad use of phony Maori. Are the really ho’s?
  
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  May 13, 2017 4:21pm
Happychappy

Very good article on Andrew Little today on Stuff by Tracy Watkins and unusual from a Journalist that normalay favors Labour.
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May 13, 2017 8:07am
- cmm
  
  Journalists are Greenies (white collar socialists), not really Labour supporters.
  
  They only really support Labour to the extent they are useful (ie. a voter-base that is helping advance Green agendas).
  
  Little can be thrown under a bus because they want the more popular Jacinda.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:32am
  - KevOB
    
    But will jacinda want it? From fish & chips shop lady to PM? That would be a serious elevation to incompetency which we cannot afford. I doubt that Jacinda would stand the stress too.
    
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    May 13, 2017 4:26pm
Rachael Membery

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11854057&ref=NZH_fb

Another horrific child abuse case, the list of the injuries sustained is heart breaking.
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May 13, 2017 8:10am
- Chuck Bird
  
  i read that and was also appalled. Some people say judges should be non emotional and analytical. I disagree she sounds like a good judge but the legislation is wrong. What politicians are going to fix it?
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:29am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Winston?
    
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    May 13, 2017 1:18pm
    - calendar girl
      
      Don’t think so. Winston is interested only in Winston.
      
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      May 13, 2017 3:56pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Yep anti smacking bill has worked wonders.
  
  Once again certain groups of the community see beating the shit out of defenceless children as a rationale thing to do.
  
  That guy should have gotten 20 years and his partner 10.
  
  Unfortunately he will be out in 3 and doing it all over again
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:42am
  - GoVege
    
    This country loves it’s money more than the safety and lives of its children.
    We dish out harsher sentences to people for accepting bribes or theft than we do to cowardly brutes who bash little kids almost to death.
    
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    May 13, 2017 2:15pm
- Happychappy
  
  I am just waiting for Labour to announce a policy saying wife bashing and child abuse is a Mental Health issue. You only have to look at the Homeless, Child Poverty and Pimping the poor to see how Little exaggerates the figures to see he will say anything to please the voter.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:17am
  - GoVege
    
    It IS partly a mental health issue, happychappy.
    ACC refuses to shell out for counselling for family violence.
    Their rationale apparently is…the problem is so big, they would be bankrupted.
    
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    May 13, 2017 2:17pm
- GoVege
  
  The facts are: A child is 50 to 100 times as likely to be killed by their non-biological dad as their real dad.
  Some years ago there was talk that all stepdads/mum’s boyfriends were going to be checked out by our social services, or monitored to ensure the kids were safe.
  What happened???
  Perhaps the Maori Party objected….
  
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  May 13, 2017 1:59pm
duggledog

Don’t worry Rachel.

Maori leadership are all over this type of nonsense.
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May 13, 2017 8:12am
- stephieboy
  
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  The fact the “Murri “are of a darker (brown) skin is also of significance ?
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:19am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “Murri”
    
    Te Reo:
    
    “Yous fuckin cuntz tooks our land!”
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:30am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      It’s all in the culture.
      
      Losers
      “Yous fuckin cuntz tooks our land!”
      
      Winners
      “We will learn your ways and buy our land back. In three generations, your children will be working for our corporations.”
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:16am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Te Reo:
    
    car aerial (noun, eng) : koa-t hang-a
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:35am
- GoVege
  
  If only, dd.
  Maori “leadership” cares infinitely more about grabbing the beaches and endless treaty pay-outs than protecting their kids from being terrorised and bashed to death.
  
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  May 13, 2017 2:10pm
oldpark

Notice the potential claytons NZ Prime Minister,a guy called Winston Peters chasing votes at this years election, daily runs off at the mouth and makes up stories and lies regarding all sorts of political situations. Of course whatever he says be it fact or fiction,is lapped up by our fake news MSM. Latest rant from rat cunning Peters ,was why it is taking so long to fix the roads around Kaikoura,after the massive 7.8 earthquake. He wants answers,seems after six months,what is going on. Perhaps after nearly twelve years,a question to him, might be, what is going on. “where is the NZ Taxpayers $158,000 dollars”, that he has yet to answer the question to,and when will he repay the debt.
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May 13, 2017 8:14am
- G152
  
  Maybe he wants the roads open quicker so it’ll be easier for him to grandstand at Pike River.
  Peters and the Sycophants, where he plays lead catarrh.
  What better entertainment especially closing the portal after them and losing the keys
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:24am
- Souvlaki
  
  Too right! & has Susan Crouch…surviving victim of Panmure RSA murders ever received so much as a razoo out the fund Peters allegedly established for her benefit?? The guy is SUCH a con artist,its hard to believe there are suckers around who still succumb to his utter bullshit.An indictment on the IQ of his befuddled supporters !
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:46am
- stigie
  
  But didn’t Winston give that 158k that belonged to the taxpayer away to charities that were happy to take it..?
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:51am
  - Paulus
    
    He sent it to a Charity who returned it.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:18am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Starship I recall who sensibility concluded that such tainted generosity was poisonous to potential future donations
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:29am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    No
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:26am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    After the Starship debacle he claimed he had made donations to a number of charities, but he has never released any evidence to back that claim up.
    
    Frankly, I don’t trust the man as far as I can throw him, which given my puny little arms is not very far.
    
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    May 13, 2017 3:39pm
- niggly
  
  Winston’s NZF has more in common with Labour (no wonder why Andrew Little threw his 2015 Northland by-election candidate Willow Jean-Prime under the bus in order to suck up more of Winnie), let’s see Winston First was against the partial sales of the power generators and wanted to nationalise/buy them back, Winston First are against Charter Schools, Winston First wants more Rail …. woah NZF are simply a (more conservative) mirror image of Labour!
  
  Let’s not forget for the 2014 election 67% of NZF supporters preferred a coalition deal with Labour! https://www.horizonpoll.co.nz/page/382/large-majorities-of-nz-first-voters-would-prefer-coalition-deal-with-labour
  
  and this year that has grown to 77% of NZF supporters want a coalition deal with Labour!
  https://www.horizonpoll.co.nz/page/winstons-choice-77-of-his-voters-prefer-labour-led
  
  So looks like vote NZF and get a Labour Govt (with a bonus loopy Greens co-leader or two thrown into the mix somewhere to ensure the MSM are kept happy with the arrangement)!
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:52am
  - niggly
    
    Crikey I’ve just realised … in 2014 67% of polled NZF voters would have preferred David Cunliffe as the nations PM …. holy cow! (And presumably with Winnie as Deputy of course)!
    
    So that means in 2017 77% of polled NZF voters prefer Andrew Little as the nations PM (presumably with Winnie as Deputy …. mind you knowing Andrew Little and the way he is sucking up bigtime I wonder if he would actually settle for being Winnie’s Deputy)!
    
    Have more of Labour’s “missing millions” appear to have been discovered?!! 🙂
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:39am
- Viking2
  
  Its still a country where one can say what they like. Why are you complaining?
  Or would you like to introduce censorship to us all?
  
  Don’t like what someone says don’t read it.
  
  Not a Peters supporter.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:57am
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
I wonder if any Trumpists ( like their der leader ) here will volunteer and go through some of their older posts pre November 8 2016 extolling the virtues of Comey for his investigations and disclosures regarding Hillary Clinton’s emails ?

Very much doubt it .
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May 13, 2017 8:23am
- ross411
  
  You are latching onto something that does not matter, and painting it as important in order to try and convince others of your hysterical delusions. The problem with being hysterical, is that you have lost touch with reality, and can’t see why you are irrelevant.
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:52am
  - stephieboy
    
    ross 411, it is very and vitally important . Trump’s reasons for sacking Comey are disengenuous , at best a lie .His and supporters comments immediate post and pre November 8th are testimony to that very fact !
    
    The proof would be a sammpling of your posts.
    
    Kindly oblge .
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:06am
Paulus

Having listened to my Hate Trump offering today I am amused that the so called political rich elite continue to tear the USA apart – or is it the media in Washington and most people do not care one jot if they can get a job which from release figures is showing steady growth.
No wonder the rest of the world – except the New Zealand media are laughing at this as most of the press release in the so called papers are runners from such as the left wing Washington Post who are significantly anti Trump and all he stands for.
No wonder Putin is laughing at the antics and has now threatened to suck up to North Korea – just to get the USA senior political appointments and electorates to wet their pants.
Having worked with and for some USA Corporates off shore many years ago they are now really getting paranoid.
Trump won – get over it and watch the Clinton scandals begin to emerge – Comey ducked the issues with the precious FBI. Look at the statement and photos of the Bangladesh President who was “persuaded” to give to the Clinton Foundation considerable sum for Bangladesh. Now will the FBI get their act together and stop playing politics.
If it wasn’t so serious it would be funny.
I look forward to hearing my daily hate of Trump every day.
Aren’t we having an election this year ?
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May 13, 2017 8:26am
- stephieboy
  
  Paulus now , what did you have to say about the Comey investigations into Clinton’s emails prior to 8/11/2016 ?
  
  Samples please ?
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:50am
- KevOB
  
  Fed up with TV1’s nightly anti US President slot(s). Time for Foreign affairs to intervene.
  
  How much of what is reported as being from some undisclosed source, a.k.a. leak, actually originated externally outside the writers offices?
  
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  May 13, 2017 4:35pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Professional man hater and NZ Herald agitprop foot soldier Lizzie Marvelli has been triggered by a comment about childless women.

Indeed, this subject is an ENORMOUS trigger for feminists who are incapable of reproducing at anywhere near replacement level (2.1 births per couple).

That is the silver lining in the shitstorm cloud of Progressivism. The female ones are rendered barren by ideology, their ovaries dry up and turn to dust. #FeminismIsCancer

And dear Lizzie is feeling the self imposed barren childlessness keenly this morning, haha:

“Her words reverberated in my mind for a long time afterwards…We also need to get rid of the idea that having children completes us…fulfilling a biological function that…is actually hastening the destruction of our planet. ”

That’s right folks, Lizzie’s rational hamster is telling her having kids and raising a family is literally the end of the world.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/Lizzie-Marvelly/news/article.cfm?a_id=1083&objectid=11853646
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May 13, 2017 8:29am
- Huevon
  
  The leaders of Germany, France, the UK and Italy are all childless.
  
  Cf. Trump (5 kids), Victor Orban (5), Putin (2+).
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    Huevon , Trump ( 5 kids ) = three marriages unfair . I wonder what breeding factory they all attended ?
    
    LOL
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:52am
    - cmm
      
      Hows the stephie-score or are you still just perving the asian chicks at St Lukes?
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:38am
    - Viking2
      
      Three wives.
      Ain’t that right up there with your traditions Stephie.
      oh except he had them one at a time unlike your ignorant lot.
      And God knows what real man would want more than one wife at a time.
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:01am
      - GoVege
        
        What chauvinist jerk won’t stay with the mother of his children?
        Apparently Donald used to get upset that people were just as interested in his first wife Ivana than in him.
        Shades of Prince Charles…
        
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        May 13, 2017 2:22pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Does anyone actually read her crap?
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:02am
  - MCos
    
    Do you read her column?
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:14am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      No, I wear glasses and the prospect of searing my retinas followed by an aneurysm has no appeal.
      
      Thank you to those who are taking one for the team
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:33am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        I second that sentiment.
        
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        May 13, 2017 3:41pm
  - cmm
    
    No, but the cat craps her read.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:38am
- Awww C-mon
  
  In answer to all dear Lizzie’s stereotypes about us blokes…
  
  But who would want to hit that anyway, unless you were deaf and illiterate then I can see an upside
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:12am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  For the good of your health I suggest you follow this simple process:
  If the first sentence contains the words “Lizzie Marvelly” then immediately mark the passage TL:DR and move on.
  She has never said or written anything worth mind space.
  
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  May 13, 2017 11:29am
  - Longknives
    
    Lizzie sang the National Anthem at an All Black game once- This somehow qualifies her to pontificate to us all on a weekly basis..
    
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    May 13, 2017 12:51pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Many more times than once Longknives. She slags off the Rugby Union and rugby people for the sport’s alleged “rape culture”, but on pay day she gets her hand out with the best of ’em, accepting the Union’s filthy lucre. Her mission in life seems to be to tell other people what to do (whilst doing the opposite, of course), which is why I am surprised she hasn’t yet become a Green Party candidate.
      
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      May 13, 2017 3:45pm
- lifesgood
  
  While we are on the asubject of this trumped up part Maori child from Rotorua. What skills does she have to be a judge on this choir competition on TV? From what I can make out she was a less than successful singer and now spouts nonsense in the Herald…nothing more
  
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  May 13, 2017 1:36pm
  - Paulus
    
    Of course she is qualified I understand that she is the niece of the late Howie Morrison ah hoe.
    
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    May 13, 2017 2:02pm
    - Longknives
      
      I remember him from the Bic Shavers ads when I was a kid!
      
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      May 13, 2017 4:59pm
krazykiwi

This is good news for tree huggers. Newly calibrated instruments find more forests, the equivalent of 60% of Australia’s land area.
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May 13, 2017 8:44am
- ross411
  
  Do not worry. The models that are predicting doom and gloom in climate change already take this into account – even though the instruments were not calibrated to find it. The end is still near. The models are still scientific and correct, anyone who says otherwise is anti-science.
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:54am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Anti science, a climate denier, a racist and a misogynist.
    
    The list is non exhaustive, did I miss anyone and offend a few more?
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:36am
    - marcw
      
      Sorry, the term ‘climate denier’ is now passé. The correct notation is to call them an evidence “dismissive” instead. This is to prevent those expressing skepticism of climate warming being automatically ignored.
      
      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/05/11/climate-dismissive-the-new-pc-term-for-denier/
      
      So the language evolves – AGW, global warming, climate change, etc. The circle will be complete when we get to “the status quo”, albeit the world will be trillions of dollars poorer, (yet certain fraudsters somehow incredibly wealthy.)
      
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      May 13, 2017 11:41am
- stephieboy
  
  All suitable for Clear felling or burning ?
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:54am
  - Kea
    
    Yes stupidboy, how else will we mine the minerals and fossil fuels with all that scrub and weeds in the way ?
    
    We can start with those forests with brown people living in them and give them jobs in the mine. It is a win for everybody that way.
    
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    May 13, 2017 3:58pm
Happychappy

It looks like Labour must be using Green members as foot soldiers to door knock NZ’s and get their views, because they would not have enough members to have done all those thousands of door knocks and telephone call that they are willing to publish.
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May 13, 2017 8:45am
- VicParking
  
  Us die hard Liebour supporters have all been given a number of houses to door knock. This evenly spreads NZ between us all. I have Whanganui.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:00am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Pity the couple that has Auckland then.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:37am
    - Pateke
      
      I have the left side of Waikanae. I have found two houses.
      
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      May 13, 2017 12:27pm
- mikenmild
  
  They seem to have plenty of volunteers here in the Hutt. I can’t recall a busier Labour campaign.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:26am
  - Happychappy
    
    It shows you then that you and Labour are scared of Chris Bishop getting the voter support National.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:38am
    - mikenmild
      
      Heads you win tails I lose?
      If Labour are campaigning vigorously, they’re afraid. If they’re not camoaigning hard, they’ve given up.
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:41am
      - Viking2
        
        both MM.
        Its all about showtime.
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:03am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Is this the same campaign that attracted THREE supporters to the Sprig & Fern for a ‘call to action, change the Government’ meeting?
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:46am
    - mikenmild
      
      The numbers who mark ‘attending’ on a Facebook page does not necessarily equal the numbers there. From the photos, it looked like 12-15 people having a drink after canvassing.
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:06am
      - VicParking
        
        13 of them were the organisors of the meeting
        
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        May 13, 2017 10:30am
  - GazzaW
    
    Are you calling on people with Chinese sounding names?
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:32am
    - sooty
      
      Put a chinese name on the letter box and they go straight past!
      
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      May 13, 2017 12:23pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        The Jehovahs witnesses have a better hit rate.
        
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        May 13, 2017 3:05pm
- KevOB
  
  The Greens have a new advertising agency. They may be adding some oomph. The ladies running it seem as nutty as the rest of the Greens.
  
  For some time there has been a sharpness about labour issues appearing which has roused my suspicion that they may be getting some external input. Is Helen helping in the background or another agency? The new sharpness is worrying in that it is at variance with the competency of the parliamentary team.
  
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  May 13, 2017 4:45pm
duggledog

Pity the poor bastard who ends up on Marvelly’s hook. She’ll be looking to select one shortly.

Can you imagine? A life of friggin misery.

One thing I have noticed over my lifetime is that women who delay partnering for too long find themselves in an unfortunate situation where there are only deadbeats, tattooed party boys who will never grow up and divorced men with baggage to choose from.

The good guys get got in a woman’s mid to late twenties.

Choosing a life partner and the timing of it is possibly the most important decision a man or woman can make in their lifetimes
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May 13, 2017 8:45am
- VicParking
  
  Send her the Boy’s contact details he has room for a few more wifes.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:02am
  - GazzaW
    
    ……or MnM maybe? As long as Lizzie can make a good cup of cocoa and tuck him in at night.
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:34am
    - mikenmild
      
      I can make my own cocoa, thanks.
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:49am
- wiseowl
  
  Agree, but then a good man can be cut down by the
  nastiness and demise of marriage when women in denial meet menopause.
  
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  May 13, 2017 10:03am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Takes that long? lol 😉
    
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    May 13, 2017 1:25pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  At least three times lol
  
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  May 13, 2017 3:22pm
krazykiwi

Interesting strategy from UKIP. It will not stand candidates in 29 marginal electorates where the Conservative candidate has a hard(ish) Brexit position.

Mr Nuttall, UKIP’s leader, said the party is doing the “noble thing” by standing aside in constituencies with eurosceptic Conservative MPs.

But prevailing thought is that a bigger win for May strengthens the domestic position for a softer Brexit.
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May 13, 2017 8:55am
mikenmild

Republican Senator trolls everyone – suggests Merrick Garland would be a great choice as next FBI Director:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/11/mike-lee-merrick-garland-for-fbi-head.html
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May 13, 2017 8:55am
- stephieboy
  
  mm, this is relevant ,
  
  “If Garland were to accept, he would still serve under a president who has shown himself to be willing to fire FBI directors who displease him for whatever reason, and to manufacture a pretext that such a firing is for cause. Why would Garland ever agree to work under such a condition?”
  
  https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/11/15626022/merrick-garland-fbi-director-mike-lee-dc-circuit-con
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:01am
stephieboy

duggledog , verifable facts and analysis are in order not bigoted surmise and guesswork .
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May 13, 2017 8:56am
- srylands
  
  Because you don’t use nested comments, I must assume that you are referring to duggledog’s observations about older women and their futile search for male partners.
  
  I don’t know what world you occupy. For single or divorced women older than 45, finding a decent man is like looking for gold in the street. They are too often either damaged from divorce, alcoholic, fucked up by their relationships with their children, or are simply looking for a quick fuck.
  
  I suggest you hang out with some women over 45 and ask them. I can assure you that you will quickly get your “verifiable facts”.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:15am
  - mikenmild
    
    Your anecdotes are not quite the same as ‘verifiable facts;, but thanks for playing.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:28am
    - Viking2
      
      True but I meet them in my work and he is right with what he says.
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:06am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    In Stephieboys home Mt Roskill the rules are different.
    All the girls are partnered by age 8.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:31am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Chew on these nuggets from Prof. Peterson
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awot-d8U9Cc
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:32am
  - SGA
    
    For single or divorced women older than 45, finding a decent man is like looking for gold in the street. They are too often either damaged from divorce, alcoholic, fucked up by their relationships with their children, or are simply looking for a quick fuck.
    
    For single or divorced man older than 45, finding a decent woman is like looking for gold in the street. They are too often either damaged from divorce, alcoholic, fucked up by their relationships with their children, or are simply looking for a quick fuck.
    (Ok, not so sure whether the last one works both ways 🙂 )
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:48am
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Best place to go to find the real hotties is a PSA meeting.
      Having been a member for a year many moons ago I can gladly inform you that as long as you have an open mind there is talent to burn present.
      The standard profile of the ladies is that weather beaten tough bitch look usually with some front teeth missing and thick facial hair.
      Deep throaty coughs are common and also nose picking is a common habit.
      If however your scene is more trying to “turn” a lady well you will be in luck as well as lesbians abound complete with jack boots.
      Not sure where the next meeting is being held but MM might know.
      
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      May 13, 2017 11:15am
      - mikenmild
        
        Sorry, I can’t really help you meet a ‘weather beaten tough bitch look usually with some front teeth missing and thick facial hair’, but had you considered joining a dating site?
        
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        May 13, 2017 11:58am
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        There I have stimulated from you an idea for PSA/Labour Party fundraising MM instead of the hard grind of cake stalls and car washes.
        The dating website of members could be a real hit in places like Porirua and South Auckland as the punters will be able to relate well to the ladies and also the women have a rare attribute – a job.
        
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        May 13, 2017 12:22pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Can I file that as Postcards from Stars and Stripes – the PSA meeting – the latest in an on-going and immensely popular series?
        
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        May 13, 2017 2:37pm
Captain Mainwaring

Like a racing car from the 1950s, that’s Labour.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11854696
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May 13, 2017 8:58am
- VicParking
  
  Greens wont be happy, its not electric and as for duct tape.
  http://tapeauthority.com/is-tape-toxic-duct-tape-electrical-tape-and-scotch-tape/
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:06am
mikenmild

Trump send out a particularly puzzling tweet:

James Comey better hope that there are no “tapes” of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

This raises a few issues:
Did Trump tape his conversations with Comey, but doesn’t know whether he kept the tapes?
Was the FBI taping Trump’s conversations?
Were the Russians?
Puzzling and sad!
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May 13, 2017 9:03am
- VicParking
  
  The FBI does need to tape the White house telephones. They just use the copies that the CIA bug from the Russians.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:09am
  - mikenmild
    
    That’s why the Russkies were in the Oval Office the other day – routine maintenance on the bugs?
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:28am
    - Paulus
      
      Such meetings are Standard International courtesy for all Countries with new leaders.
      
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      May 13, 2017 2:05pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Babushka said reception is good, and her podruga are pleased Donald is settling in.
      
      http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Trump_Russian_Hackers_Babushkas.jpg
      
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      May 13, 2017 5:51pm
    - Kea
      
      milky what exactly did the Russians find then, according to your nutty conspiracy theory ?
      
      Was it Hillary’s emails revealing the US was supporting Syrian jihadists to destroy the country because Israel wants Iran destroyed and Syria is an ally of Iran ? Stuff like that ?
      
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      May 13, 2017 5:58pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Largest Solar manufacturing company in EU has gone insolvent
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/solarworld-frank-asbeck-der-insolvente-sonnenkoenig-a-1147176.html
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May 13, 2017 9:07am
- stephieboy
  
  Maggy Wassilief , yet solar power and panels are booming in China ,
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/19/china-builds-worlds-biggest-solar-farm-in-journey-to-become-green-superpower
  
  By chance you’re not behind a lobby group advocating the construction of a coal fired power station in Gisborne ?
  
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  May 13, 2017 10:18am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    yet solar power and panels are booming in China ,
    
    You didn’t read the article I posted, did you?
    
    By chance you’re not behind a lobby group advocating the construction of a coal fired power station in Gisborne ?
    
    Shhhhhh!!! That’s my cover to divert the Genesis and Nova spies.
    The hubby is building a токама́к under Kaiti Hill.
    
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    May 13, 2017 11:00am
    - stephieboy
      
      Maggy Wassilief,
      
      then the point of your OP ?
      
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      May 13, 2017 11:21am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        then the point of your OP ?
        
        1. Look what can happen to subsidised industries
        
        2. Beware of investing in hype
        
        3. China can manufacture stuff cheaper than anyone else because it uses cheap coal energy
        
        http://notrickszone.com/2017/05/12/german-solar-energy-from-technology-of-the-future-to-extinction-in-just-10-years/#comments.
        
        https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/05/12/europes-biggest-solar-company-goes-up-in-smoke/
        
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        May 13, 2017 11:35am
      - stephieboy
        
        China is investing in hype ?
        
        https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/china-solar-energy/
        
        and,
        
        http://www.climateactionprogramme.org/news/coal_use_in_china_declines_in_2016_as_solar_capacity_rises_82
        
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        May 13, 2017 11:58am
      - mikenmild
        
        Well, there’s a couple of scientific websites, Maggy…
        
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        May 13, 2017 11:59am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Well, there’s a couple of scientific websites, Maggy…
        
        yeah, they are great aren’t they?
        WUWT gets 100s more comments than any of those alarmist blogs.
        NoTricks keeps posting all the current scientific papers that seem too difficult for the MSM and warmists to comprehend.
        
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        May 13, 2017 12:07pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Don’t ever leave that bubble, it’s really quite charming.
        
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        May 13, 2017 12:15pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        China is investing in hype ?
        
        Too damn right it is… China is more than happy to benefit from the West’s obsession with global warming.
        
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        May 13, 2017 6:25pm
nasska

They’re still at it…..even the nuns are complicit. So long as the Vatican stands no child is safe:

…..”A Roman Catholic nun from Japan has been arrested and charged on suspicion of helping priests sexually abuse children at a school for youths with hearing disabilities in Argentina.

Kosaka Kumiko, 42, was charged with helping the priests with anal and vaginal rapes, fondling and oral sex, which were allegedly committed in the bathrooms, dormitories, garden and a basement at the school in Lujan de Cuyo, a city about 1000km northwest of Buenos Aires.”……

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11851726
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- mikenmild
  
  And the Godnutters here have the gall to call Islam an evil cult.
  There is a good case for suppressing the Catholic Church as a criminal organisation, like the SS after the Second World War.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:30am
  - Nukuleka
    
    I do wish that you would cease peddling your religious beliefs on this site, mikenmild- you are no better than the Jehovahs Witnesses door-knocking of a Saturday.
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:51am
    - mikenmild
      
      Except that I have no religious beliefs.
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:07am
      - Jack5
        
        One for you, Milky:
        
        “If there were no God, there would be no Atheists.” – GK Chesterton
        
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        May 13, 2017 6:11pm
    - Viking2
      
      Ignoring the facts doesn’t make them go away except in the case of the Catholic Church and even then there comes a day of reckoning.
      
      Given that Islam was spawned from the Catholic Faith the rest of us are never surprised by the ongoing revelations.
      
      Now we know that their followers are not all tarred with the same brush but the evil needs purging.
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:11am
  - Harriet
    
    “…..And the Godnutters here have the gall to call Islam an evil cult…..”
    
    FFS Milky — you’ve got one small titted sexually deviant female – pitted against 1400yrs of muslim armies!
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:52am
  - oldpark
    
    Agree mohammed got it right. Get the wee children at an early age ,say around six then marry them at nine,like he did. Then used his pediaphillia urges and rants for all of his followers around the world ala ISIS to murder anyone who dosn’t’agree with him. Seems he even needs his brainwashed followers,to get at least four young children circa nine years old ,and follow his pediiaphillia examples. Seems its losers like you ,who fly the flag, and pay lip service to documented pediaphiles like Mohammed,and make him legitamate
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:55am
    - mikenmild
      
      How have I made Mohammed legitimate? He was just another religiously deluded fanatic, like ‘Saint’ Paul, Martin Luther or Mother Theresa.
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:09am
  - Peter
    
    It is.
    
    Christianity is not without issue, either.
    
    Simple enough?
    
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    May 13, 2017 12:05pm
- mikenmild
  
  I’m surprised and shocked:
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/92545805/australian-cardinal-george-pell-accused-of-sexually-abused-choirboys-in-explosive-new-book
  
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  May 13, 2017 2:10pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Your on a roll now MM.
    All you need is Lucia Maria to show up and you are set for the rest of the day.
    
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    May 13, 2017 2:16pm
    - mikenmild
      
      As if anyone would step forward to defend one of those Catholic mandarins.
      
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      May 13, 2017 2:20pm
      - nasska
        
        Harriet will! 🙂
        
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        May 13, 2017 2:26pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Harriet doesn’t really count, I was thinking of actual sentient individuals.
        
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        May 13, 2017 2:40pm
Jack5

Marijuana companies listed on various stock exchanges feature in Brian Gaynor’s column in the Hooerald today.

IMHO, Gaynor continues to be the newspaper’s best columnist. As other traditional sources of business information die off, Gaynor’s Saturday column becomes more valuable.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11854945
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May 13, 2017 9:27am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  He has my Kiwsaver so I sincerely hope he is walking the walk.
  
  I read his column and Mary Holms for what it is worth but rely on others to read our Lizzy, Redman, etc (too fing many to list, thank goodness for the sudoku and cryptic)
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:43am
MCos

If you’re tired of reading the ever more hysterical American political gossip on social media or pessimistic diatribes about how NZ is going down the gurgler because the Green Party co leader is overweight?
Try reading the very informative Steve Braunias piece on Larry Morris & his parents.
http://nzh.nu/dnr930bGd2D
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May 13, 2017 9:35am
lastmanstanding

In the early 1990s we were told the up coming TOW settlements would be used by the Iwi to benefit ‘their’ people.

I and many other White MotherF….. wrongly assumed that would result in reduced poverty, reduced crime a rise in education standards and that Maori would join the White MotherF…. in terms of statistics across a raft of issues.

Sadly that has not come to pass. After Billions of dollars of mine and the other White Motherf….. taxes have changes hands the bad stats for Maori are still bad and worse than the White Motherf…….

Somehow methinks I and all the other White Motherf….. have been conned. Big time.
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May 13, 2017 9:40am
- MCos
  
  My understanding is that well less than two billion has been spent on Treaty settlements.
  Less than South Canterbury Finance payout.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:56am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    SC was $1.6b
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:23am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Less than South Canterbury Finance payout.
    
    The difference being that the South Canterbury Finance has only had one payout and it was final.
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:59am
    - Jack5
      
      At least it wasn’t race based.
      
      The South Canterbury Finance payment was made under the Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme. I agree that was a disaster, paying out investors who, in turn for higher risk, received higher interest rates. The Government then covered the losses.
      
      This should never be allowed to happen again. If there are problems in the aftermath of the Auckland property bubble it will be in propping up banks. Let’s hope that, in contrast with the finance company bailouts, the Government takes equity stakes in return for any help.
      
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      May 13, 2017 6:20pm
- Viking2
  
  I seem to recall that there was going to be a cap of 1 billion dollars.
  
  Settlements of the 1990s
  
  While early Tribunal recommendations mainly concerned a contemporary issue that could be revised or rectified by the government at the time, historical settlements raised more complex issues. The Office of Treaty Settlements was established in the Ministry of Justice to develop government policy on historical claims. In 1995, the government developed the “Crown Proposals for the Settlement of Treaty of Waitangi Claims”[4] to attempt to address the issues. A key element of the proposals was the creation of a “fiscal envelope” of $1 billion for the settlement of all historical claims, an effective limit on what the Crown would pay out in settlements. The Crown held a series of consultation hui around the country, at which Māori vehemently rejected such a limitation in advance of the extent of claims being fully known.[5] The concept of the fiscal envelope was subsequently dropped after the 1996 general election.
  
  Despite the protest, three major settlements were reached during this time. The Minister of Justice and Treaty Negotiations at the time, Sir Douglas Graham, is credited with leading a largely conservative National government to make these breakthroughs.[6]
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi_claims_and_settlements
  
  Nothing wrong with my memory.
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:24pm
tvb

Trump’s increasingly tortuous explanations why he fired Comey the FBI Director suggests he thought he was firing the janitor. His inexperience in Government is showing. After the Trump experience we will not be hearing calls for more businessmen going into Govetnment.
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May 13, 2017 9:48am
- Nukuleka
  
  No, tvb, I don’t suppose we will be hearing calls for more businessmen going into Govetnment, wherever that mysterious and little-known place may be.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:53am
RF

A mate in Christchurch had a guy wearing a Red Cross jerkin door knock asking for donations. The conversation was quickly swung around to how NZ is no longer green.

Within a minute it was obvious that any donations would go to the Green Party. When confronted with this the pushy person quickly departed without his donation.

Be warned.
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May 13, 2017 9:58am
Reid

Why was Comey fired?

As we all know, Vince Foster’s body was recently exhumed on the order of Trey Gowdy.

As we all know, they found two bullet holes in the back of his head and the verdict was changed from suicide to homocide.

As we all know, the body was stolen from the Naval Hospital’s morgue where the morgue’s surveillance cameras had been conveniently turned off.

As we all know, the body was found in a burning ambulance several blocks away and has now been rendered useless for further forensic tests such as extracting the bullets and determining what gun fired them, as well as being rendered useless for evidential and prosecutorial purposes.

As we all know, the day Foster was murdered many Clinton Administration officials crawled all over Foster’s office, extracting various papers. A MIG team was even signed into the WH to open his office safe. His secretary said two envelopes in it, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were taken.

What did Foster know?

He knew about Whitewater, Waco, and Mena.

Waco was one of the most evil things the Federal govt has ever done against its own citizens. You know why they did it? Educate yourself.

The McMurray Building stored the evidence from Waco and Mena. That’s why they did that. That’s how important that was.

The destruction of his body has eliminated the possibility of prosecuting Clinton for that murder.

But there are many other murders in the closet.

We can’t wait.
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May 13, 2017 10:01am
- mikenmild
  
  Vince Foster? Seriously?
  Can I have some of what you’re smoking?
  
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  May 13, 2017 10:11am
  - Reid
    
    Many questions unanswered mm, why don’t you answer them before you come to a conclusion.
    
    Lets start with you trying to explain why was the body stolen and set on fire?
    
    No sneering allowed.
    
    Just a plain simply believable explanation.
    
    Go on.
    
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    May 13, 2017 10:14am
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid ,
      
      Did Trey Gowdy Order Exhumation of Vince Foster’s Body?
      
      Reports that the South Carolina Congressman ordered the disinterment of Vince Foster (a Clinton associate who died in 1993) are fake news.
      
      Claim :Rep. Trey Gowdy ordered the exhumation of Vince Foster’s body
      
      Rating : False !
      
      http://www.snopes.com/vince-foster-exhumed/
      
      Own up to the smoking or is it not taking your meds ?
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:25am
      - ztev
        
        Meds ? Its a strait jacket now with seclusion
        
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        May 13, 2017 2:30pm
- BeeSting
  
  YEEEEH HARRH
  
  TELL IT LIKE IT IS BROTHER
  
  REID FOR PRESIDENT
  
  MAKE NZ NZ AGAIN
  
  START THE MASS DEPORTATIONS
  
  PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION
  
  FINALLY SOMEONE WHO TELLS IT LIKE IT IS
  TO
  
  THE TRAITORS THE SCUM
  AND THE DOG POOH WITH 2 LEGS
  
  GROVELLING IN THE DOG SH*T THAT
  IS MARXIST ISLAMIC SOCIALISM IN NZ
  ON KIWI BOG
  
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  May 13, 2017 7:02pm
Happychappy

Andrew Kirton must be trying to convince people that Labour are ready to be the Government and have got their finances right with his announcement that their email campaign for funds has netted on the average of $33 per person. Kirton also says they are way ahead in money terms than they were in 2014 feel confident going into the 2017 Election. Well this wouldn’t suprise many to see Little has everyone singing the same crap.
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May 13, 2017 10:09am
sooty

How much gets sidelined to pay fo Angrys lawyers?
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May 13, 2017 12:32pm
- ztev
  
  he has said he would take personal responsibility for those things.
  Unlike Key s defamation case , who first tried to stiff the taxpayers until reminded he had his leader of the national party hat on, so he told the party to pay up.
  
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  May 13, 2017 2:29pm
  - sooty
    
    So what site do we go to see how bog a mortgage he has? Maybe one of those old things we called journalist could have a bopeep for us?
    
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    May 13, 2017 3:43pm
Reid

Alex Jones Best Rant Ever!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlkAjKk_4f8

Jones is a zio disinformation agent which is why I rarely post anything from him, but this is so fucking funny…
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May 13, 2017 12:49pm
Ross12

Is it fact that Australia is going to allow Bitcoin to be legal tender as from July?
( NB. I’m aware of Bitcoin but don’t really understand how it works)
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May 13, 2017 1:04pm
- Reid
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Blockchain-Revolution-Technology-Changing-Business/dp/1101980133
  
  Don’t know about Aus but would not be surprised.
  
  You should invest, it’s going nuts and will continue.
  
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  May 13, 2017 1:52pm
Reid

Went looking for gas heaters today. Was told shops don’t stock them anymore. Evidently the H&S nazis Key setup have decided they’re too dangerous because apparently they emit CO2. Not that anyone can recall anyone ever suffering from CO2 poisoning and even if one or two did, was it because they weren’t using them per instructions or because they were inherently dangerous.

Regardless, H&S nazis have decided adults aren’t allowed to make their own choices any more, so they’ve banned the most efficient heating product on the market.

And the politicians have given them this power, and given them hundreds of millions of our money to build a brand new dept with lots of staff to come up with fucking stupid ideas like this left, right and centre. All because we had one accident in a coal mine.

WTF is wrong with people that we just put up with this utter shit without doing anything about it? In the olden days I’d just call a town hall meeting and calmly explain the malady, we’d all go and grab our equipment we had on standby for this kind of thing, one of us would grab a few chocks, another would boil some tar, and pretty soon problem solved, with said politicians and H&S nazis having all learned salutary lessons which they’d tell their grand children about, so significant was their lack of enjoyment arising therefrom.

But today? We just fucking sit and take it, don’t we.

While woofters like stupidboy prance around celebrating how much safer we are and bureaucrats like mm dream up even more ways to lipcurl and sneer.

What a fucking stupid world we have.
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May 13, 2017 1:50pm
- mikenmild
  
  Personally, I don’t think someone as stupid as Reid could be relied upon to operate an unflued gas heater safely. Not just for his own sake, but he might poison someone else with the carbon monoxide.
  
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  May 13, 2017 2:07pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Old-style un-flued gas heaters can be deadly if there is insufficient ventilation.
  I remember the old days in Japan with kerosene heaters in the winters. Each winter there would be a dozen or so deaths through carbon monoxide poisoning.
  
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  May 13, 2017 2:47pm
- nasska
  
  ….” they’re too dangerous because apparently they emit CO2″…..
  
  Not quite correct Reid. The real nasties are NO2 & CO.
  
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  May 13, 2017 3:36pm
  - Viking2
    
    You forgot the water. They produce lots of water.
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:19pm
- Kea
  
  Once we put people like milky in their place we can create abundant cheap electricity so everyone is warm.
  
  We can start by building a giant coal powered station on the West Coast of the South Island. First we need to pass legislation that anyone who opposes it is guilty of treason and will be shot upon conviction, after a brief show trial.
  
  Currently the poor and old are dying in their thousands through cold damp homes. By executing a few eco communists thousands of lives will be saved.
  
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  May 13, 2017 3:53pm
  - nasska
    
    ….” By executing a few eco communists thousands of lives will be saved.”….
    
    By the burning of their wretched, smelly bodies in the furnaces they shall be released of their sins to the poor & freezing! 🙂
    
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    May 13, 2017 3:59pm
    - Kea
      
      They have only rudimentary brains and will hardly feel any pain. They think the world is ending anyway, so we would be doing the a favour. 🙂
      
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      May 13, 2017 4:24pm
      - Jack5
        
        Kea, besides the coast coal, there are billions of tons of lignite in Southland, heaps of CSG gas in our many coal fields, and under-sea-floor gas for centuries in fields relatively close to the shore.
        
        Let’s set the whole fucking country alight: a bonfire of Green inanities.
        
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        May 13, 2017 6:00pm
      - Kea
        
        Jack5 that is the sort of forward thinking we need. With the trend of increasingly severe and longer winters in the Northern Hemisphere and record ice levels in the Antarctic, we have no time to lose. 🙂
        
        https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum
        
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        May 13, 2017 6:05pm
      - nasska
        
        If that doesn’t get the alarmists & tree huggers going nothing will! 🙂
        
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        May 13, 2017 6:18pm
Manolo

The competent economist and MP Grant Robertson making wonderful housing promises today in Wellington. The socialist’s charming leader Angry Andy will make the official annoucement tomorrow.
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May 13, 2017 2:03pm
Ross12

A really interesting graphic –what happens in a minute on the Internet

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/05/10/20170512_60.jpg
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May 13, 2017 2:51pm
VicParking

I was just sent a link to a Whaleoil article. Now I’m convinced he and his staff have gone stark raving mad.
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/05/good-ya-jonathan/#more-311454
I watched the question time concerned and Coleman was very clear in what he said, that the conculsions draw in the report were written by by leftwing nutcases (Green party) but contained reports from very concerned members of the public who he agrees with. I do not think much of Coleman but in this case WO’s staff have not let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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May 13, 2017 3:39pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  I suggest you re-read the post at WO. Most of it is taken from a post at the left-leaning Spin-Off, where they slag Coleman off for attacking the organisers of Actions Stations.
  
  Only the last two paragraphs are written by WO staff, and they back Coleman up. For the record, the guy in charge of Action Stations is James Shaw’s campaign manager in Wellington Central, and a former staffer of Green MP Kennedy Graham. Action Stations is blatantly anti-National, whilst trying to appear neutral and moderate. Good on Coleman for calling the bullshit out.
  
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  May 13, 2017 3:50pm
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92419231/police-complaint-made-about-serious-assault-at-nelson-college-for-girls

Any comment Ms Devoy?

Quick to jump up and down for Muslims and strippers. How about standing up for redheads?
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May 13, 2017 3:56pm
Stars And Stripes

Labour promises a nurse in every secondary school
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92548241/labour-promises-a-nurse-in-every-secondary-
“Speaking to Labour’s election year congress, Ardern put youth mental health on the political agenda, with a promise to place a nurse into every public secondary school. Schools will also get the support of a GP”.

Not sure about the effectiveness of this personally as I have known many people who have killed themselves for whatever reason in their youth but bar one the thing they all had in common was they were pretty messed up people and had been that way for quite a while so when they did it no massive shock was experienced.
Meaning they were well beyond the help level of a school nurse or a GP, in fact I’m not sure anyone could have helped them.
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May 13, 2017 3:57pm
- sooty
  
  One nurse in each school, lots of nurses.
  consulting room in each school, lots of building.
  All adds up to lots of money!
  Have you costed this out?
  Blowing smoke out your arse, Angry.
  
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  May 13, 2017 4:03pm
  - cmm
    
    The sums only have to make sense if you get into power.
    
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    May 13, 2017 4:38pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      My wife’s telling me every secondary school has a nurse on the site already, and who am I to question her?
      
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      May 13, 2017 10:00pm
Kea

Cult of Climate Change
Global warming has become a religion. This is the opinion of Nobel Prize Winning Physicist Dr. Ivar Giaever , Prof. Richard Lindzen, and many others. Climate change alarmism has a surprising number of attributes of a medieval or even ancient religion. Nevertheless, real religions have some pre-requisites, like a tradition spanning at least few generations. So the proper name for climate alarmism is a cult. And these are the telltale attributes: …

https://defyccc.com/cult-of-climate-change/
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May 13, 2017 4:26pm
Fletch

Stefan Molyneux interviews David Horowitz about the new power in America – the unelected judicial branch, which seems not to be able to be held to account by anyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgDzeuSZBek
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May 13, 2017 4:30pm
- Kea
  
  Hillary’s cronies are all through the system. Trump needs to purge them ruthlessly.
  
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  May 13, 2017 4:34pm
Kea

Great to see a Jew recognise the millions of dead goy. Good on her for breaking ranks from the zionists narrative.

Five Million Forgotten – Non Jewish Victims of the Shoah

Growing up in a Polish community, and raised by Polish-speaking parents, I heard many stories about the atrocities of the Holocaust. I learned very early how one of my family’s homes in Poland was burned to the ground by Nazis. I learned that my uncle was shot in the head by Nazi soldiers because they suspected that the family was hiding a Jewish woman. Painful as it was for them to speak about it, my parents felt it was important that I knew the story of the Holocaust.

It was only after I moved to the Los Angeles area several years ago that I realized that many people were not aware that millions of victims of the Holocaust were not Jewish. Outside the Polish community, I heard very little mention about the five million non-Jewish victims — usually referred to as “the others”.

http://remember.org/forgotten
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May 13, 2017 4:46pm
- Kea
  
  Looks like the holocaust deniers are out and about. But only 2 ?
  
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  May 13, 2017 5:19pm
Nostradamus

Chuck Bird: This could be a good warm-up exercise for your Pike River expedition. Are you keen?

Scientists to journey into unknown ocean depths off southern coast of Australia

It sounds like the stuff of a Jules Verne novel — a voyage to the bottom of the sea. But in a first, a team of scientists is preparing to survey the darkest depths off the coast of Australia. Twenty-seven scientists from seven countries and 13 support crew will spend 31 days aboard the country’s only dedicated research vessel, The Investigator.
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The scientists will do 12-hour shifts between 2:00am and 2:00pm — or the reverse — to sort and identify the specimens. The conditions are so difficult in the abyss that not many creatures can survive, and many of the animals evolve without eyes because it is so dark they cannot see anyway.
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May 13, 2017 5:02pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From 1999, here’s Thorazine Shuffle with Emperor’s New Clothes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1bONKeHyB0
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May 13, 2017 5:36pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92542573/wellington-police-pepper-spray-puppy-in-search-for-former-tenant

Regardless of whether the Police went to the wrong address or not-
That ain’t no ‘Border Collie’.
And it ain’t no ‘Puppy’ either..
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May 13, 2017 6:01pm
Kea

The pigs have form for this sort of thing. They have previously turned up at addresses and found no one home, then shot the family pet in frustration.

Gutless filth.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92542573/wellington-police-pepper-spray-puppy-in-search-for-former-tenant

Family traumatised after police shoot treasured pet dog during search warrant in south Auckland

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/85376639/family-traumitised-after-police-shoot-treasured-pet-dog-during-search-warrant-in-south-auckland

And this…

Animal protection group ‘appalled at needless killing of dog’
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11820075
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May 13, 2017 6:08pm
- Longknives
  
  I’m no great fan of NZ Police Kea- But the Media need to tell the truth.
  That mutt in the article I linked to is not a freaking family ‘Border Collie’..
  
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  May 13, 2017 6:18pm
  - Kea
    
    “That mutt in the article I linked to is not a freaking family ‘Border Collie’..”
    
    Longknives, Yeah but it “identifies” as a Border Collie 😉
    
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    May 13, 2017 6:53pm
- kowtow
  
  The first 2 stories appear to be inefficiency and excessive force used on what seem to ordinary law abiding families…….
  
  …….contrasted to a seeming unwillingness to investigate real shit heads in the gangs….
  
  “A Facebook profile shows a Black Power gang member posing images with drugs, alcohol, bladed weapons, a knuckle duster, cash, what appears to be an airgun, ammunition in multiple calibers and then a loaded firearm.
  
  The loaded shotgun is seen with a chambered round in a dwelling.
  Our reader reported the page with his concerns to the Police district responsible.
  
  Their reply:
  
  “Yeah but the only illegal thing there is the cannabis. But obviously a strange fella. Have a good weekend. Jack”
  
  https://kiwigunblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/13/police-ignore-illegal-guns-being-flaunted/
  
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  May 13, 2017 6:43pm
  - Kea
    
    Investigating and raiding armed Maori is Wacist ?
    
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    May 13, 2017 6:55pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Look on the bright side because at least these pet owners know exactly the fate of their animals.
  The couple of cat owners whose pets “mysteriously disappeared” in my neighbourhood I’m sure are still wondering to this day what happened to them.
  
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  May 13, 2017 7:03pm
Longknives

Adern desperately needs to work on her Thespian skills..
Her ’emotion’ for a friend who allegedly committed suicide was about as convincing as Stallone doing Shakespeare!
Do the despicable, lying left not remember they have already used that one this week?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11854093

Not sure what their point is- All suicides are caused by the National Govt? Capitalism??

*I have experience with the horror of persons committing suicide- Just think Labour are using it as Political pointscoring in the lowest way..
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May 13, 2017 6:16pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Imagine if a male MP carried on like that, sets women back years.
  
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  May 13, 2017 10:05pm
BeeSting

What is the Difference between

Allah and an All Black
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May 13, 2017 7:03pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Bee sting
  
  A bee sting is a sting from a bee (honey bee, bumblebee, sweat bee, etc.).
  
  Treatment
  
  The first step in treatment following a bee sting is removal of the stinger itself. The stinger should be removed as quickly as possible without regard to method: studies have shown the amount of venom delivered does not differ whether the sting is pinched or scraped off and even a delay of a few seconds leads to more venom being injected.
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:05pm
  - nasska
    
    It’s really just a little prick Nostra. 🙂
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:08pm
    - BeeSting
      
      Europeans Bees
      
      Work Together with Cooperative
      Intelligence when it comes to defence
      
      That is why the European Peoples
      Like the European Bee are the most effective
      and have created the most Superior Civilisations
      
      Bees will and can Kill an Animal if it does
      not take the Hint and leave them alone
      
      There is something in that for everyone is there not.
      
      Keep Kicking the Bee Hive
      
      You will one day get the response you desire
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:15pm
- BeeSting
  
  Allah does not think he is an All Black
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:12pm
  - Kea
    
    Allah is not a Class A drug criminal ?
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:15pm
    - BeeSting
      
      Have you Supped or Gulped some Camel Urine Yet
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:20pm
      - Kea
        
        Now now beasty spit that cock out of your mouth and behave yourself.
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:24pm
    - BeeSting
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdmqn9JIuzc
      
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      May 13, 2017 9:43pm
Keeping Stock

The Warriors. Choke. Enough said.
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May 13, 2017 7:05pm
nasska

They say that childbirth is the most painful thing anyone can experience.

Maybe I was too young to remember but I didn’t think it hurt that much.
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May 13, 2017 8:07pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  childbirth is the most painful thing anyone can experience
  
  Yes, childbirth is definitely a painful experience for a father-to-be, when he’s expected to sit through proceedings – complete with sound effects taken directly from Scream (the horror movie)!
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:12pm
  - nasska
    
    Don’t I know it Nostra!
    
    Three times I’ve had to endure the theatrics & sound effects. We called it quits after the third because I couldn’t take any more. 🙂
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:23pm
Nostradamus

Retiring professor and husband leave $1 million farewell gift to University of Auckland

My first thought: Peter and husband leave $1 million farewell gift. Oh hold on!
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May 13, 2017 8:10pm
- dad4justice
  
  Haha Nostra the only thing Peter will leave is a huge embarrassment for his vile corrupt wife when the truth finally comes out about that truly depraved couple.
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:15pm
  - stigie
    
    Been waiting for years now Dad about all the sordid stuff regarding LAX, it seems to be covered up really well unless you know something that we dont..?
    
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    May 13, 2017 8:26pm
    - dad4justice
      
      Hey stigfly you know that if I give you the truth about Peter’s disgraceful antics in Hagley Park and LAX I will place the blog owner under unnecessary drama. I respect this blog ,but believe me if the public knew about them, then they would want blood. All the politicians and members of the justice system know about it and that’s why I detest the despicable sods. The truth will come out, it always does in the end.
      
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      May 13, 2017 8:33pm
      - stigie
        
        The good professor getting kissed smack on the lips by some bloke on the 2005 election is not a patch on Hagley Park Dad..?
        
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        May 13, 2017 8:38pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        An accidental tongue-in-the-mouth kiss (when a simple hug was intended) couldn’t possibly be compared with the supposed goings-on at Harley Park. The place wouldn’t have become known for adventure tourism for no reason!
        
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        May 13, 2017 8:49pm
      - dad4justice
        
        One clue stigie look at when the Rob the cop went to Wellington and was replaced by one of the filth protecting the then Prime Minister. Enough said.
        
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        May 13, 2017 8:49pm
      - Kea
        
        Dad you should write a book about your antics at the Park. No one else is as deeply informed about the gay scene in that sordid little city of yours.
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:12pm
      - stigie
        
        Yes Dad, what happened to that book you were going to write for us guys that like a bit of sordid you no what..?
        Im picking it could have been a best seller !~
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:15pm
      - Kea
        
        stigie, he seems a bit shy. He should know we don’t judge him for being a filthy godless sodomite bound for hell. 🙂
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:18pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        “us guys that like a bit of sordid you [know] what”
        
        My goodness!
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:22pm
      - Kea
        
        I wonder if Dad has tried to pray-the-gay-away in an attempt to wean himself off the cock ?
        
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        May 13, 2017 9:26pm
Viking2

African Nations To Build More Than 100 New Coal Power Plants
In this newsletter:

1) Europe’s Biggest Solar Company Goes Up In Smoke
Reuters, 11 May 2017

2) Largest US Solar Panel Maker Files For Bankruptcy After Receiving $206 Million In Subsidies
The Daily Caller, 11 May 2017

3) African Nations To Build More Than 100 New Coal Power Plants
National Geographic, 10 May 2017
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May 13, 2017 8:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And very interesting to consider the role of China in all these events.
  
  I alluded to such earlier in the day (up thread), but it was all too confusing for stephieboy & co.
  
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  May 13, 2017 8:29pm
- Kea
  
  About time Africa used its natural resources for the benefit of Africans. There is not a richer continent on earth yet they live in poverty. A situation not helped by smug white middle class pricks blaming the lack of progress on YT.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:10pm
  - BeeSting
    
    Yes Absolutely Like the freed Slaves Did in Liberia
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo&t=136s
    
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    May 13, 2017 9:51pm
stigie

Fucking Warriors, may not watch them again. They were up 22/6 at half time and got beaten 36/28.
Stephen Kearney will be spewing !~
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May 13, 2017 8:31pm
Jack5

Time for some light stuff (Kokila Patel allowing):

Earlier today in this thread there was discussion about Radio NZ’s announcers dipping into Maori, and female ones raising a laugh by signing off as “Ho So-and-so”.

If we had had African slaves in NZ, we might have had more colourful minority language in NZ, such as this Afro-American ditty (quoted by Roger Abrahams in a work about American folklore from Philadelphia):

I hate to talk about your mother,
She’s a good old soul.
She’s got a ten-ton pussy
And a rubber ass hole.
She got hair on her pussy
that sweep the floor.
She got knobs on her titties
That open the door.

Imagine that as the PC message of the day on Radio NZ.

Beat that, Kea!
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May 13, 2017 8:36pm
- Kea
  
  Jack5 back in the days of free speech where people could decide for themselves what was rubbish, or not.
  
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  May 13, 2017 9:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

When I was young and had no sense
In far-off Mandalay
I lost my heart to a Burmese girl
As lovely as the day.

Her skin was gold, her hair was jet,
Her teeth were ivory;
I said, “for twenty silver pieces,
Maiden, sleep with me”.

She looked at me, so pure, so sad,
The loveliest thing alive,
And in her lisping, virgin voice,
Stood out for twenty-five.

– George Orwell
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May 13, 2017 9:01pm
Manolo

Sending some buggers to their home countries:
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/05/13/second-round-somalis-deported-us/

Officials deported a total of 77 illegal immigrants to Somalia this month, according to a report by Midnimo Information Center. Of the 77 illegal immigrants, 72 were Somali foreign nationals, while five of the illegal immigrants were from Kenya.
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