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William of Ockham

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Potus orangutanus: Goney by Christmas …

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May 11, 2017 8:01am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Stuffed so early in the day, makes me pine for the climate alarmists
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:04am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  пизда cunt is a banned word on this forum, William.
  
  Some folks know Russian vulgarities
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:18am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Its obvious William is Dennis Horne,so if William gets a Strike does that mean Strike 6 for Dennis?
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:27am
duggledog

William

You really must stop. It’s become an obsession and it will do you no good worrying about it.

Mr Trump is merely unsettling the status quo, which is what (clearly) many Americans want him to do.

The more the Media Party and politicians, mayors, judges etc of any stripe try to stop him, the harder the resolve of Trump’s followers.
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May 11, 2017 8:03am
- RalphT
  
  “The more the Media Party and politicians, mayors, judges etc of any stripe try to stop him, the harder the resolve of Trump’s followers.” – and of Trump himself. He hates losing.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:09am
  - mikenmild
    
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    Seems to be driven by hate, yes.
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:12am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, the opposition to Trump is entirely founded on hatred. That’s the “liberal” way, always has been, though it is getting steadily more unhinged.
      
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      May 11, 2017 10:29am
      - Kimbo
        
        “entirely”? (I’ll ignore “steadily” for the moment)
        
        Isn’t occasional and/or steady “opposition” in a general sense, including to the POTUS how a democracy as conceived by the framers of the American constitution meant to function?
        
        How’s Trump’s “~~Muslim ban~~ Extreme vetting” EO’s going in the US courts btw? You remember, you called me a “liar” when I suggested that would be a possibility.
        
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        May 11, 2017 10:31am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Well, first totally to hell with “Kimbo’s Law” ! Of course opposition is envisaged, or more, required, in a democracy in general terms. It is the nature of the opposition.
        
        It is pretty clear that what is happening is that there is an organized campaign to attempt to delegitimize Trump as POTUS, and that the majority of the MSM is complicit in this. Calling it the “Deep State” is a bit “Zerohedge” like but the people who envisage themselves as the ruling elite are really upset that their ability to dictate to the unwashed masses has been slightly curtailed and so they are doing their best to upset the democratic norms and actually overthrow the legitimately elected government of the USA.
        
        As for the EO’s, well, the courts have certainly made new legal precedents – according to them it actually matters who issued an EO, for example had Obama (or a putative President Clinton) issued Trump’s EO’s then they would be OK. So the courts can take into account a candidate’s campaign statements to define intent. However the Supreme Court most definitely did not follow that reasoning on the Obamacare case; Obama most definitely stated that the penalties to be exacted under that legislation were NOT a tax and said so on numerous occasions. Yest SCOTUS held that they were a tax and that made them constitutionally valid. Judged honestly by the same standard as Trump’s EO’s, Obamacare’s tax penalties would have been ruled out as unconstitutional. So what the Hawaii and California judges are going against a clear Supreme Court direction and ruling is that as it is Trump, any illegitimate judicial reasoning is OK because Trump.
        
        If this gets to SCOTUS I would doubt that the rulings would stand. It is only a pity that such judges cannot be sanctioned for such blatant political partisanship. They didn’t even make a good attempt to follow established law but pulled fake reasons out their collective arses. Just another sign of the hyper-partisanship and collective illegitimacy of the Democrat opposition.
        
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        May 11, 2017 11:58am
      - Kimbo
        
        Well, first totally to hell with “Kimbo’s Law” !
        
        Sir, you can
        
        …call me a liar
        
        …in a public setting
        
        …refuse to retract when called out
        
        …and then launch into a long-winded rationalisation to cover up the inconvenient fact that what I said came to pass (in politics “explaining is losing”, btw)
        
        …but you do not malign “Kimbo’s law” and get away with it! And you have the audacity to throw in an unnecessary and excessive adverb “totally to hell with “Kimbo’s Law” when doing so?! This means war, sir. I demand satisfaction! Pistols at dawn. My man will speak to your man… 😉
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:12pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        BTW, did I really call you a liar ? Over what ?
        
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        May 11, 2017 2:12pm
      - Kimbo
        
        The equivalent, yes, and I’ve called you out on it on a number of occasions:
        
        Kimbo, stop bleating on so dishonestly. The ban is NOT couched in religious terms. the ban does not apply to Muslims specifically and that word is not in fact mentioned in the EO.
        
        Complain all you like, but be honest and complain about what has been implemented, not what you merely imagine has been.
        
        30, 2017 3:08PM
        
        …which was in response to my prior statement
        
        …I’m saying, he lost the first round in the courts. That is only the beginning. Sure, “nine lawyers, ten opinions”, but whatever modifications he tries, they will be lining up to challenge them as unconstitutional. Lots of red tape, lots of delays, lots of court stays. Even a guy like Dave Mann on this thread, implacably opposed to Islam and increased Muslim immigration can see this guy seems to be blundering into a swamp…in only his second week.
        
        Will be fascinating to watch where this leads, but that it was challenged so quickly, and as there has already been unintended consequences indicates it was poorly thought out and poorly enacted. And that is how we judge the competence of a politician.
        JANUARY 30, 2017 11:45AM
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_incompetence_of_the_trump_administration.html
        
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        May 11, 2017 2:28pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Nonetheless, a retraction on your part, with the agreement that even though we disagreed on the matter in question, we both held sincere opinions will suffice to consign the matter to the dustbin, and it will not be mentioned again.
        
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        May 11, 2017 2:37pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        Well, I’d be honest to say that I’m sorry to have offended you, but I think the substance of my reply is correct. The EO wasn’t a “muslim” ban and to call it so is in fact disengenuous at best.
        
        Would it be fair to say that a Muslim ban should actually try to ban Muslims rather than inhabitants of specific countries; and one that actually banned people from countries that represent a lot less than 50% of the world’s population of Muslims is actually totally ineffective in actually banning Muslims ? And it should be recalled that it was a temporary stop for three months while a policy on enhanced screening was developed and put in place, rather than a complete ban ?
        
        The Judges who issued restraining orders may well want to believe that it was a “Muslim Ban”, but they are acting in extreme bad faith and contrary to judicial ethics to hold so.
        
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        May 11, 2017 4:00pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Well, I’d be honest to say that I’m sorry to have offended you…
        
        Not so much “offended” as I don’t like my honesty and integrity questioned. Nonetheless, I thank you for your apology, and that is the end of the matter in terms of a personal difference.
        
        , but I think the substance of my reply is correct. The EO wasn’t a “muslim” ban and to call it so is in fact disengenuous at best.
        
        Would it be fair to say that…
        
        I’m not sure I used the phrase “Muslim ban” in the first instance, although it was the intent – at least as far as some Trump supporters round here claimed. Nonetheless, yes, you are right, in terms of the tight rope Trump was attempting to walk within the boundaries proscribed by the Constitution, no, it was not presented as a “Muslim ban”, and it was drafted in such a way to try and avoid that legal conclusion.
        
        The Judges who issued restraining orders may well want to believe that it was a “Muslim Ban”, but they are acting in extreme bad faith and contrary to judicial ethics to hold so.
        
        Whether that is so or not is a matter of opinion, likely formed as a result of one’s assumptions and presuppositions. Nonetheless, you seem to confirm what I was saying – that whatever Trump did – or will do – on the matter was always likely to end up in court, whether due to the way his EOs are drafted, or how the courts choose to rule, activist intent or not.
        
        So I think we have a meeting of the minds, and even better, a burying of the hatchet. Thanks you Ed.
        
        Now about the more serious matter of you shitting on Kimbo’s law, you lowly knavish cur … 😉
        
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        May 11, 2017 4:42pm
- axeman
  
  Fantastic to watch the Libtard Meltdown in action. Add in the fake news becoming completely unhinged and it shows Trump’s strategy is working.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:14am
  - axeman
    
    Tweet of the day ‘I haven’t seen the Democrats this fired up since they used attack dogs & fire hoses on Alabama children marching for civil rights in 1963.
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:16am
    - stephieboy
      
      That role has now been most ably taken up by the GOP .
      
      Otherwise known as Southern Strategy .
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:05am
      - 3-coil
        
        Stephiboy 9:05 – Now you’re trying to hide behind your own “alternative facts”
        
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        May 11, 2017 9:59am
  - VicParking
    
    Nixon did not sack Cox, Bork did.
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:26am
    - Ed Snack
      
      True, but he (Nixon) had to go that far down the “tree” of responsibility to find someone who would do so. That action probably was a major reason why he (Bork) didn’t get onto the Supreme Court.
      
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      May 11, 2017 10:31am
  - G152
    
    One thing is the kooks self identify so readily.
    Forgetting that they’re branding themselves as snowflakes and all that that implies
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:41am
  - stephieboy
    
    ” Add in the fake news becoming completely unhinged and it shows Trump’s strategy is working.”
    
    ???
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:03am
    - pentwig
      
      yes steffie
      if you cannot understand that it proves your lack of intelligence
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:30am
Captain Mainwaring

A precis of the political news on TV3 last night:

“Nats have failed, houses and rents are unaffordable”. Number 1 item on the news. Drum it in, keep stirring, goofy grinning face of lemon-sucking Paddy the gnome continuously in the background.

“Labour is self-destructing”. Battle between Kelvin and Angry over Maori-only prisons is totally ignored.

“Labour is self-destructing part 2”: Labour’s three policies on charter schools are obviously not news. Move on, nothing to see here.

Media bias?
Nah, the world is what it will be according to the left.
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May 11, 2017 8:07am
- G152
  
  Love how liebor and friends scream end of the world and as to how the government is responsible for the self inflicted pain that snowflakes feel.
  Then they vote, the left lose, then its another subject where, once more, we’re all going to die.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:45am
- jcuk
  
  As far as I am concerned the media are spreading the truth of the matter …. both Labour and National have not been building enough state houses to match population growth and hiding their collective heads ostrich fashion on the matter so plain to see.
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:01am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    At the risk of being accused of being a cynic, maybe National realises that their supporters don’t want a state house complex next door and the occupants of state houses don’t vote National anyway.
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:49am
  - 4077th
    
    State housing (new builds) has nothing to do with the rise in house prices, rent or any shortages. The blame lays squarely at the feet of the local councils, and the RMA. Ask anyone who has tried to build a house in the last 10 years how long it takes for consents and approvals and the skyrocketing costs and they will tell you exactly where the problems lie. Yes, this is the fault of the government/s for not putting the boot into the local councils, especially Auckland council. There is something very wrong when a single tree is the only thing standing in the way of a multi dwelling development that could house several lower income families or first time buyers.
    
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    May 11, 2017 11:12am
- howitis
  
  ****N e w s f l a s h ****
  TV3 is The Swamp full of diseased, deranged, swamp-dwelling, cackling critters.
  Enter this swamp at your own risk.
  
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  May 11, 2017 12:42pm
duggledog

Captain Mainwaring

I wish someone would tell me why on earth National continue to fund RNZ, TVNZ and Maori TV who just carry on commissioning, programming and broadcasting content that is so often anti-National, and paint a picture of a country in ruins when clearly it is not.

At the very least they could install ‘their people’ at the top and make changes down.

I don’t get it.
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May 11, 2017 8:11am
- mikenmild
  
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  Pining for a state mouthpiece controlled from the Beehive?
  You could just click on http://www.beehive.govt.nz for an unadulterated diet of stirring ministerial announcements of good news.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:13am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Isn’t being in Government wonderful mikenmild.
    
    You actually get to do things and make announcements about actual policies and achievements, unlike the Opposition, who can only speak in the hypothethetical.
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:20am
    - Kimbo
      
      Which is why, with good reason, the media puts governments under more scrutiny than opposition parties.
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:08am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Sometimes, Kimbo, only sometimes. The Media has become fa more nakedly partisan of late and mostly tend to heavily favour left-wing political viewpoints.
        
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        May 11, 2017 10:34am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The victor gets to write the history mike
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:27am
    - stephieboy
      
      As Trump would know !
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:11am
  - Longknives
    
    I agree Mikey- I am always heartbroken when I read those constant articles by the 20 year old Stuff Journalists bemoaning the fact that they can’t afford a villa in Ponsonby…’Waah! I went to University- I deserve this!’
    Hopefully Labour/Greens (with maybe some help from the United Nations) will address this horrendous wrong and make million dollar Ponsonby Villas available to all first home owners?
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:43am
    - stephieboy
      
      Longknives , did you ever think of applying as Colon Craig’s Press Secretary back in 2014 ?
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:15am
  - G152
    
    Once upon a time all news in NZ passed through the PMs office before being published.
    But of course you knew that
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:46am
    - mikenmild
      
      Some news, in wartime.
      Sounds like you are a fan of a government propaganda channel.
      
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      May 11, 2017 1:09pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “I don’t get it.”
  
  You’re not on your own there duggledog.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:14am
- cmm
  
  If it was funny, sure.
  If it was balanced, fine.
  
  But this relentless attack mode is doing the MSM no favours.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:47am
oldpark

Defiant FBI chief removed from job by President. Yes so what, except that was in 1993. The then President ,a well known sex deviant ,sleazy Bill Clinton husband of crooked Hillary, dumped the FBI chief . Corrupt media supported him ,as being a Democrat ,that lot could do no wrong.Seems with President Trump dumping of the present FBI chief ,corrupt media put the boot in, as a Republican ,that lot can do no right.Seems its alright when they do it as long as they are hypocritical lefties.
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May 11, 2017 8:13am
- SGA
  
  I couldn’t remember this incident so I looked it up. William Sessions was under investigation by the Dept of Justice for financial irregularities during Bush Snr’s final year. The LA Times reported as – “The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives.” Yes, Clinton fired him when he refused to resign.
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:53am
  - oldpark
    
    @SGA 9.53am
    
    Pity the news outlet you refer to and the other 55 anti Trump media,who havn’t to the best of my knowledge told one of the many reasons why corrupt James Comey got dumped. When he had crooked Hillary Clinton on a sure fire indictment over her many many top secret emails and where at least 30,000 went missing. Comey gave crooked Hillary’s support staff immunity on his investigation into the emails, with no reply required, and even allowed them to destroy their computers. Also at one time Comey had an epiphany on his controversial decision to let crooked Hillary off the hook,and flipped flopped around the reasons . Time ran out for the flip flopper, as it was seen he was in fact out of his depth on how the real FBI should carry out the law. With crooked Hillary she beat the system ,only because corrupt Comey was in charge .
    
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    May 11, 2017 10:52am
    - SGA
      
      You miss the point – your original post attributes William Sessions removal as a Bill Clinton initiated thing. My quick fact checking suggests that he was already in deep trouble for financial irregularities before Clinton was President. He was given a chance to resign and didn’t take it, so he got fired.
      Not so?
      
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      May 11, 2017 11:34am
      - oldpark
        
        Think you miss the point. Sessions was set up by a lefty media reporter or journalist as we now call them, on fake news as we now call it.. Comey was corrupt,as he let Crooked Hillary off the hook. Comey should have been charged,with Clinton collusion,he got off light,just like Hillary.
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:00pm
      - SGA
        
        Sessions was set up by a lefty media reporter,…
        
        Yeah, I read that a journalist researching a book about the FBI exposed some of Sessions’ irregular financial matters, but I missed the bit about how Sessions was “set up”. Care to explain?
        
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        May 11, 2017 5:10pm
lastmanstanding

As an opponent of Clinton and a luke warm supporter of Trump I wonder who is now capable of conducting a truly independant unbaised investigation into the “Russian “Affair”

I dont believe there would be anyone without a conflict of interest. Therefore if the Administration and the Senate and House want to retain or in my case regain any semblance of credibility they should look off shore to find people who can do the job .

My suggestion would be to look at former members of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in the UK some of the leading jurists in the world with wide knowledge and understanding of what constitutes good governance .

Because that is the issue. Good Governance or in the case of the US bad governance worse than that of Mannys Music Parlour.

Mind you most governments dont do good governance ours has probably the best record and that patchy at times but at least they try their best.
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May 11, 2017 8:15am
- Paulus
  
  Are there not four senior current investigations going in respect of any Russian involvement, in Congress ?
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:20am
Paulus

Am amused with our media obsession in US Politics.
Hillary would have had Comey in jail by now as she claims that he lost her the election – silly woman.
Was it not revealed that Comey was forced by his own senior executive to reveal more of the Clinton shenanigans before the election ?
And why has no further Clinton’s investigation taken place ?
I am amused that in election years here that our media has become obsessed by these scandals.
It is sad that it has become the subject of fun and satire because the left wing did not like the results.
There is considerable movement throughout the world to get rid of the duly and legally elected US President – because the lefties in the media do not like him. What they would have done in the Clinton mafia had got in – a love fest surely.
I think the figure revealed in the US Press Gallery the other day at their farcical dinner showed that 96% of the members were Democratic Party members shows itself and we are in the thick of it.
No wonder Angry Andy is making no headway even with Jaciderella – who was very uncomfortable in Parliament the other day when Angry made a right twerp of himself. She threw her hands in the air – not in sympathy.
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May 11, 2017 8:16am
- axeman
  
  Comey is lucky he was only fired by Trump. If Crooked Hillary was there Comey would be lying in a shallow grave by now.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:22am
  - stephieboy
    
    axeman , utter BS !
    
    Another Pizzagate and Clinton body count true believer ?
    
    Share with us your honest thoughts about Comey and the Clinton emails prior to 8th November 2016 ?
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:18am
    - axeman
      
      Stiffy ….. GFY
      
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      May 11, 2017 11:04am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Jucinda is loyal, she knew that ‘look a squirrel’ would only fool Mallard and so attempted to start a Mexican wave, a first for Parliament.
  
  As it turns out, unsuccessful, like most labour initiatives.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:25am
  - VicParking
    
    I though she was saying “Pick me, Pick me, wont be long before the unions wont have a say in who will be leader”
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:30am
    - Inandout
      
      “Pick me, pick me” sounded similar to what she said in her Uni days.
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:05am
- stephieboy
  
  ” Paulus Am amused with our media obsession in US Politics.”
  
  That would not of course include your one with the present POTUS ?
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:17am
  - Garbageman
    
    Damn boy its fun watching you melt down on every Trump thread not as much fun as we had during the days you sulked like a baby and vanished from KB after Trump won but entertaining nonetheless
    
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    May 11, 2017 10:27am
lastmanstanding

Another topic the train wreck that is the Aussie Budget. Min of Fin refuses to say whether peak net debt set at $600 BILLION ( just read that again) will be breached.

Current net debit $500 BILLION

LMS predicts net debit at $700 BILLION by 2021.

Chances of achieving predicted surplus of $8 BILLION in 20/21 greater than LMS flying unaided to the Moon by that date.
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May 11, 2017 8:21am
- krazykiwi
  
  Spend.
  Tax.
  Borrow.
  Kick the can down the road.
  Repeat.
  
  The MO of most ‘social democracies’. It looks fundamentally grim for the Aussies. And they’re nickle-and-diming over student tuition fees.
  
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  May 11, 2017 10:45am
Happychappy

Has anyone noticed in Parliament Question time the amount of MP’s that ask a question and get to the allotted number of supplementary they are allowed and they have achieved nothing. I have taken notice of James Shaw and for a clever person his Question a school boy could word them better and get better results.
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May 11, 2017 8:21am
- Biscuit
  
  Indeed, Happychappy.
  
  I watch Question Time most days and am often thinking ‘This buffoon has had a whole day to dream up his Question (and supplementaries) and this is the best he can do?’
  
  I watched yesterday when an idiot Labour frontbencher jumped up, asked the Minister of Health a question, got answered, effectively asked the same question again, got answered, effectively asked the same question a third time … and moaned like hell cos the Minister, losing patience, quite rightly, effectively called him an idiot .
  
  The Winston First penchant for ‘Does the Prime Minister have confidence in (x) and if so HOW?’ is also a tad tiresome after the first 69 usages…
  
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  May 11, 2017 10:36am
  - Happychappy
    
    Winston Peter’s has the mind of a child with the silly games he tries to play in Question Time and that’s the reason his MP’so are lazy and arrogant when producing questions with incorrect facts most days.
    
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    May 11, 2017 11:29am
Longknives

Watching One Breakfast presenters mercilessly sneering at Bill English’s latest light-hearted media posting.
Do Hilary and Jack not realise this is not meant to be taken seriously? They are desperately trying to portray him as some kind of thicko- ‘Look he’s holding the camera the wrong way’ etc etc
Wankers.
Jumped up Wankers- Hilary Barry’s ego is out of control ever since people made a ridiculous fuss over her leaving TV3, She is rapidly challenging Katie Bradford for my most hated person on TV with her permanent smug ‘I know better than the little people’ grin..
Oh Christ now they are having a go at Trump.
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May 11, 2017 8:25am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Do yourself a favour and turn the telly off in the mornings Longknives. I haven’t watched breakfast television all year, and I go to work feeling far, far better. Sheesh; sometimes I even talk to my wife!
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:30am
  - Longknives
    
    I’m on the Sofa (Recovering from Surgery) and my ‘nurse’ wanted to watch it so couldn’t escape..
    
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    May 11, 2017 8:35am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Get well soon Lknives ?
      
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      May 11, 2017 8:45am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Fair enough; hope you have a speedy recovery
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:13am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Hope your recovery is speedy
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:46am
      - Longknives
        
        Thanks Guys!
        
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        May 11, 2017 11:30am
    - stephen2d
      
      Hook your “nurse” onto one of the Netflix shows and binge watch it – it helps pass the time when you have nothing else to do (I was stuck in a Minneapolis hotel in February with -22C outside – not much else to do than binge watch and re-watch House of Cards, The Killer, etc).
      
      All the best for your recovery.
      
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      May 11, 2017 10:44am
- axeman
  
  They are part of the irrelevant hysterical FAKE NEWS media. And they always get triggered by Trump like these snowflake ‘celebrities’ http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/09/celebrities-call-for-trump-to-be-impeached-after-comey-firing/
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:37am
  - 4077th
    
    “celebrities” in who’s mind?
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:00am
  - stephieboy
    
    Axeman , steady on there . Some examples of your ” FAKE NEWS “
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:22am
    - axeman
      
      Once again …. GFY
      
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      May 11, 2017 11:07am
- cmm
  
  Hilary Bary IS the news.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:43am
  - Inandout
    
    Don’t forget her sonkick.
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:07am
- GazzaW
  
  Bloody hell Longknives, life’s way too short to watch that crap so early in the day. Pretentious, shallow prats the pair of them. They both look as though they have carrots permanently inserted up their backsides which is a problem for them as that’s where they pull most of their opinions from.
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:06am
- Biscuit
  
  Longknives, WHY watch?
  
  I wake, put the perk on, flip Sky Sport on (Arsenal won, o darn) do a few things in the wee small room, look at the Net for BBC News (and Sport), have a look at the SMH website, look in here and only then look at the Horrid just in case something important has happened in dear wee NZ.
  
  Jack and Hilary’s slant on Te News is of no interest to me whatsoever. And, lest you think I am picking on them, the 3 mob hold no appeal either…
  
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  May 11, 2017 10:41am
KevOB

Four hit pieces on Trump in Stuff this morning. Who is funding this? Aren’t we a Sovereign State? Is the NZ Government complicit by its silence on the attacks on the US President? Are our trade relations at stake?

And I haven’t commented on TV1 with their strident attacks.
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May 11, 2017 8:31am
- Dave Mann
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  It’s quite possibly because Trump is an out-of-control narcissistic sicko who is a genuine danger to America and the world. Have you thought of that?
  
  Turning a blind eye to obvious facts presented by around 90% of the world’s media and pretending they’re ALL liars isn’t very helpful.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:45am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Wow… I don’t think many people agree with me on this one…! – 😀
    
    p.s. I’m not saying there isn’t a Muslim problem or that America industry doesn’t need to get a shot in the arm, blah blah blah. I’m saying that electing a compulsive liar who is totally ignorant about the world and who surrounds himself with mindless syncophants and family members like an African banana republic isn’t the way out of the mess that America finds itself in.
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:11am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Keep digging, bound to turn around any minute now . . .
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:52am
    - Scott
      
      Stop doubling down on your gratuitous insulting of Trump and you might get a better response??
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:58am
    - fernglas
      
      Of course, you might say that America has got what it has been after for years. Why, of all the capable people in that country, did JFK have to choose his brother as A-G? Why was the Bush father and son act allowed to occur? If my Dad was President, does that mean I too have a better claim to the office than millions of others? The Yanks have always hankered after political dynasties and seem to have had no trouble electing other incompetents to high office. This administration is merely the refinement of many years of wishful thinking. And before anyone points out the obvious, it would have been the same if Clinton was elected. You get the government you deserve.
      
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      May 11, 2017 10:49am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yep, there is an exceedingly long list of “born-to-rule” political families in the USA…..
        check through this alphabet of names:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_political_families_(P)
        
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        May 11, 2017 3:38pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Dave, the “out of control narcissistic sicko” as you put it left office in January and won’t shut up either. His mindless sycophants are also on the outer now.
    
    You’re making the same glaring error as Tom Scott in that assuming that someone who doesn’t act as you want them to act is stupid and irrational. It’s classic form of stupidity to make such assumptions.
    
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    May 11, 2017 10:40am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Actually I don’t think I’m making that error. I admit that my criticism of Trump is quite vehement, but I don’t think it’s based on irrationality. The man quite literally cannot be trusted to speak the truth about anything and his lies are laughably transparent. Also, he changes his tune constantly about almost everything and he has demonstrated a startling ignorance about history and world affairs.
      
      Do you really think that a personality like this is fit to be President of the United States? Really….?
      
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      May 11, 2017 10:51am
      - Ed Snack
        
        I think you need to change your mindset, take Trump seriously but not literally instead of literally but not seriously (as has been said by many before).
        
        He’s no more ignorant than Obama was, and look at what a fuck-up he was. He learns and can change his mind. Trump might be a very good POTUS, he might be dreadful, I’m not sufficiently invested in him (I was of the school that the only way that I’d prefer Trump was if his opponent was Hillary Clinton, though Bernie Sanders might have stretched that resolve) to insist he is either, yet.
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:04pm
      - Scott
        
        Trump is doing a great job as President of the United States and 96% of his supporters are happy with him.
        For a serious understanding of the intellectual arguments for Trump I would suggest check out the American greatness website.
        https://amgreatness.com/
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:32pm
      - Brigitte
        
        I checked my copy of the Hitchhikers Guide and it helpfully tells me:
        
        “The President is very much a figurehead – he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.
        
        An orange sash is what the President of the Galaxy traditionally wears.
        
        On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had. He spent two of his ten Presidential years in prison for fraud. Very very few people realize that the President and the Government have virtually no power at all, and of these very few people only six know whence ultimate political power is wielded. Most of the others secretly believe that the ultimate decision-making process is handled by a computer. They couldn’t be more wrong.”
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:52pm
      - Paulus
        
        He was Elected in accordance with the Constitution of America so suck it up – you lost !
        
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        May 11, 2017 1:54pm
  - KevOB
    
    And Hillary and Obama aren’t? Who is Obama anyway, we know he is from Chicago politically but otherwise he has no public roots. Now he is striding the world as a SOMEBODY. He should take a lesson from Kissinger who although retired is apparently active in trying to get a peaceful solution out of NK. That’s a real statesman who know his place.
    
    Hillary and family are a disgrace with their blatant abuse of the opportunities of office. I have seen that at work eleswhere when a one party state gained an opposition so they too could enjoy the perks as equals in looting the public opportunities purse.
    
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    May 11, 2017 11:10am
    - mikenmild
      
      If Kissinger is your ideal of a statesman then words fail me…
      
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      May 11, 2017 1:17pm
- Scott
  
  Totally agree with Kevin– the New Zealand media is fully invested in “we hate Trump and refused to say a good word about him”.
  
  The funny thing is that Trump is so often right. Take the travel ban, widely vilified in the New Zealand media. Well actually the facts come out that of the thousands of people in the United States under investigation for terrorism links, a full 15% of them are refugees.
  
  This shows that many of these refugees pose a potential risk to the security of the United States and that Trump was quite right to try and institute a travel ban.
  
  It also shows that bringing refugees to the United States or indeed any other Western country is fraught with peril. They pose a security risk, they often don’t assimilate well and they tend to be a burden on the taxpayer with substantial welfare payments.
  
  Trump’s idea of a travel ban and a safe zone in a place like Syria for refugees makes perfect sense.
  
  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/05/15-of-terror-investigations-are-of-refugees.php
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:47am
  - Kimbo
    
    It also shows that bringing refugees to the United States or indeed any other Western country is fraught with peril. They pose a security risk, they often don’t assimilate well and they tend to be a burden on the taxpayer with substantial welfare payments.
    
    Fair enough, Scott. You are entitled to your view, and, in a sense no refugee or immigrants for that matter are risk free. And it is the duty of a government to assess and balance those risks. So if they are doing their job well, “fraught with peril” would be an exaggeration. Put it this way, even in the present circumstances, for the USA – and NZ – there isn’t an immediate concentrated risk and danger to all citizens compared to a select few who would volunteer to re-enter the Pike River Mine.
    
    Nonetheless, as I’ve asked before, I’m intrigued by your attitude, and belief that Christian ethics should be applied in the political realm in the light of the following: –
    
    18 He (Yahweh/The LORD) defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. 19 And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:23am
    - Scott
      
      Yep – fair enough Kimbo. The difference being that ancient Israel was a confident society, confident in its identity that was grounded in its God. So any foreigners were shown mercy for sure. However they were expected to assimilate into Israel’s norms and values.
      
      It was not expected that they would show gratitude to their new host country by terrorising its inhabitants, committing murders and molesting its woman.
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:51am
      - Kimbo
        
        Yep – fair enough Kimbo. The difference being that ancient Israel was a confident society, confident in its identity that was grounded in its God. So any foreigners were shown mercy for sure. However they were expected to assimilate into Israel’s norms and values.
        
        Nope, not so at all according to Scripture. Deuteronomy is what Yahweh commended, not necessarily what they did! And I am shocked you are unaware of it.
        
        Israel/Judah was subject to numerous invasions due to her disobedience (Book of Judges, conflict with the Philistines, and later the Assyrian and Babylonian captivities), and rather than being “confident in its identity grounded in God”, she committed continual bouts of idolatry and syncretism. Even when times were good – at the time of David, Solomon, Hezekiah and Josiah, disobedience was rife. Or do I need to remind you of David’s and Solomon’s full history?
        
        Hence the continual negative assessments in the Prophets – and also the “historical” books (called the “Former Prophets” in the Jewish canon), in Judges, Samuel and Kings. Indeed, overall the message of the Old Testament is “when are these disobedient people ever going to be what God made and commanded them to be – a kingdom of priests and holy nation (Exodus 19:6)?”
        
        It was not expected that they would show gratitude to their new host country by terrorising its inhabitants, committing murders and molesting its woman.
        
        But where is the evidence that the majority of refugees do that in the West? I’d suggest the situation is not much different comparing then and now. Yet Yahweh condemns the attitude you are seeking to (mis) read into Scripture and baptise as righteous.
        
        Is intriguing to see someone who is so insistent that Scripture should be applied to pagans (e.g., a prohibition on gay marriage) rationalising, mis-reading and misapplying direct commandments of Scripture, and engaging in false witness against the majority of refugees in the West. Sorry, mate, you are pleasant guy, and I’m glad we are no longer feuding, but the incongruity is glaring. You are entitled to your views, but when you imply they are Christian…nope. I can’t and won’t keep silent or fail to respond in that situation.
        
        Grace and peace to you.
        
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        May 11, 2017 10:11am
      - Scott
        
        I would say that the number of Muslims that are terrorists far outweigh any other religion. They are causing problems all around the world that are totally out of proportion with their numbers.
        
        The other problem is that they, and here I say most Muslims, don’t want to assimilate. They just want to hold onto their religion and their beliefs and their values and their lifestyle as they did back in their home country, they just want to do it more prosperously.
        
        The problems with Muslim terrorism are well known and don’t need repeating here. The less Muslims we have the less terrorism. The more Muslims the more terrorism.
        
        And they do not integrate well, they are less likely to get a job, more likely to be on welfare, get involved in crime.
        
        20% of British Muslims never set foot in a non-Muslim household. We’d be better off without them.
        
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        May 11, 2017 1:47pm
      - Kimbo
        
        I would say that the number of Muslims that are terrorists far outweigh any other religion. They are causing problems all around the world that are totally out of proportion with their numbers.
        
        Yet, as I posted below, those who create the terrorism are a vast minority among the Muslim immigrant community in the West, and it is biblically unjust to hold to account an entire group for the actions of a few, or fail to treat refugees as a whole as per the biblical commands.
        
        The other problem is that they, and here I say most Muslims, don’t want to assimilate. They just want to hold onto their religion and their beliefs and their values and their lifestyle as they did back in their home country, they just want to do it more prosperously.
        
        What beliefs, values and lifestyles, and how do you measure the “majority”. They work alongside others, do business, send their kids to schools where they make mates with friend, join sports and other clubs.
        
        The problems with Muslim terrorism…
        
        Sorry, you are ducking back and forth between terrorism and alleged failure to integrate. I realise the two are not entirely separate, but they are at least distinct.
        
        …are well known and don’t need repeating here. The less Muslims we have the less terrorism. The more Muslims the more terrorism.
        
        Statistically, yes. But again, I repeat, terrorists are the vast minority, and an increased statistical likelihood does not negate the biblical command concerning the treatment of refugees, at least not on the basis that they are…Muslims.
        
        And they do not integrate well, they are less likely to get a job, more likely to be on welfare, get involved in crime. 20% of British Muslims never set foot in a non-Muslim household. We’d be better off without them
        
        On that basis we’d be better off without any refugees, yet God’s command is still to show mercy and generosity. The same hardness of heart to the Scriptural injunction, and willingness to give in to expediency concerning refugees and migrants are the same in all places everywhere – Ancient Israel, the history of despised and feared migrants in NZ (Irish Catholics, Chinese, now Muslims). Despite that, God gives his commandment to the contrary in an emphatic fashion, reminding us we all require grace and mercy (“And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt”).
        
        I repeat, I am amazed by your willingness to rationalise away God’s command, and try and argue our present situation regarding the treatment of refugees is unique. It is not. Human nature has not changed.
        
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        May 11, 2017 2:05pm
    - Scott
      
      My comments about Israel were in the context of assimilating foreigners and expecting them to integrate with their host society. Most immigrants expect to assimilate, the exception being the Mohammedans who want the host society to change to suit them.
      Regarding refugee terrorists and troublemakers my comments refer to Muslim refugees. Muslim refugees are causing all manner of problems throughout Europe as we speak. New years eve in Cologne and the perpetrators of the Boston marathon bombing are two specifics that come to mind.
      
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      May 11, 2017 12:26pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Sorry, Scott, but when you are in a hole, stop digging. But you are failing to distinguish individuals, and then tarring the whole group. That is the antithesis of Biblical justice. For example:
        
        Most immigrants expect to assimilate, the exception being the Mohammedans who want the host society to change to suit them.
        
        What? All Mohammedans? Most Mohammedans? Many Mohammedans? Some Mohammedans? A few Mohammedans?
        
        Muslim refugees are causing all manner of problems throughout Europe as we speak. New years eve in Cologne and the perpetrators of the Boston marathon bombing are two specifics that come to mind.
        
        Yet, contrary to what you say, the vast majority of Muslim migrants in the West are peaceful law-abiding people.
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:48pm
    - Scott
      
      Well I would like to be nice to refugees but government policy should be to get in ones that won’t cause massive problems.
      
      Europe is taking in literally millions of Muslim refugees and it’s an invasion. It’s no good. You’ve got to look after your own people and not sacrifice your own people for the sake of those who don’t want to become part of your society.
      
      Sacrificing your own nation and your own people for the sake of Muslims is not biblical, it’s dumb. And I quite frankly wonder about your grasp of human nature.
      
      Muslims don’t like us, to them we are infidels. Taking in millions of them doesn’t help anybody. It’s crazy.
      
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      May 11, 2017 3:08pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Well I would like to be nice to refugees
      
      The discussion is not about that. It is about the government (and you personally) keeping God’s commandments in terms of disposition and actions towards refugees and migrants. Remember, much disobedience of God is not flagrant, but more, self-justified by expediency.
      
      …but government policy should be to get in ones that won’t cause massive problems.
      
      Our Muslim refugee and migrant numbers do not indicate that is so. Hence, even if the following is so (a questionable premise), it is irrelevant:
      
      Europe is taking in literally millions of Muslim refugees and it’s an invasion. It’s no good. You’ve got to look after your own people
      
      Yes…
      
      and not sacrifice your own people
      
      false dichotomy
      
      …for the sake of those who don’t want to become part of your society.
      
      And you ignore the assimilation into our communities, sports clubs, work places, schools that Muslims have done – nor that, yet again(!) it is unbiblical to judge all by the actions of some.
      
      Sacrificing your own nation and your own people for the sake of Muslims is not biblical, it’s dumb. And I quite frankly wonder about your grasp of human nature.
      
      And seeing as your initial premises are wrong, you’ve ended up at that extreme. A false dichotomy with the middle possibility excluded – that we are capable of assimilating Muslim refugees and other migrants based on current numbers.
      
      Muslims don’t like us
      
      All? Most? Many? Some? A few? When will you ever apply biblical righteousness, and cease to make blanket assertions tarring a whole group for the actions of some?!
      
      to them we are infidels.
      
      And Jews are infidels to Christians and vice versa. As long as we all abide by secular/non-sectarian laws, the problem ceases.
      
      Taking in millions of them doesn’t help anybody. It’s crazy
      
      No one is talking about that in NZ. Nor hundreds of thousands.
      
      So, ok, you’ve had another go, repeated the same stuff. Can we safely conclude that, in a NZ context, and based on current and foreseeable policies, any continued opposition by you to refugees and other migrants who also happen to be Muslim is in defiance to the Scriptures, and any claims to the contrary are motivated by your fear, inability to assess the current situation on its merits, and your desire to put expediency ahead of honouring God in all you think, say and do? Because, Scott, when religious people disobey God and find ways to excuse it, they sound like you have in these posts.
      
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      May 11, 2017 3:37pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Scott, the Syrian refugees settled in Dunedin posing a major security threat ??
    
    In what ways does the present POTUS apply so called Christian ethics to his watch other than banning Muslims from travelling to the US ??
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:23am
    - Scott
      
      Stephieboy – well I expect the 200 refugees in Dunedin will not assimilate well, will probably not get jobs and will probably have a 30 to 40% chance of going on welfare. I expect that as more Muslim refugees come to Dunedin then they will agitate for special rights and become more bold and confident in usurping traditional kiwi culture.
      
      Once their numbers are more than 2% in Dunedin, say 2000, then watch out.
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:55am
      - stephieboy
        
        Scott, oh dear stoking ther fires of paranoia , hysteria and misinforamtion in true Trumpist style .
        
        “It was a bright cold day in April,” goes the first line of 1984, “and the clocks were striking thirteen”
        
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        May 11, 2017 10:01am
    - Paulus
      
      Understand that Syrian immigrants to Dunedin are find it extremely difficult due to the cold weather – and Winter has only started.
      Ask the Dunedin Hospital as they are being overwhelmed.
      
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      May 11, 2017 10:47am
      - fernglas
        
        There is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, and it gets bastard freezing there in winter, so I’m sure Dunedin’s Syrians will survive.
        
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        May 11, 2017 10:51am
    - RF
      
      I hope the refugees are a nicer lot than the ones we had in our neighbourhood about 10 years ago. Anything such as bikes, toys, garden tools etc that were not locked away at night disappeared.
      
      The Police would make regular visit to several houses that each had around 2-3 refugees families living there to pick up the stolen gear. It was so bad that they did not bother to hide the stolen bikes etc and left them out in the open on the front lawn.
      
      The older male children suffered from obvious gunshot or explosive wounds and could been seen limping around the streets at night. Rather scary people.
      
      The community got together and held several public meetings with MPs from Labour & National attending. Suddenly the skinnies were gone to god knows where.
      
      Overnight there was nil Crime in the area.
      
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      May 11, 2017 6:29pm
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92422285/man-dodges-preventive-detention-for-brutal-assaults-against-women

Not a very nice chap.

But what sort of woman would go shack up with a dude like this without even meeting him first? Has the female sense of self preservation really got this bad?

“She and Werata met via Facebook, but only met in person when she travelled to Palmerston North in June 2015 to stay with him in his house truck.”
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May 11, 2017 8:42am
- Longknives
  
  He will be out in 6 years.
  Read what he did- This is one of the softest/lightest sentences I’ve ever seen.
  Guarantee this will end very badly for his next unfortunate Victim.
  
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  May 11, 2017 8:52am
  - kowtow
    
    I often feel that our judges are more dangerous to society than the thugs they give such piss poor sentences to.
    
    I also blame our soft in the head pollies who have become so “progressive” that they pass laws to go easy on such scum ,and in so doing pose a danger to the society they fail to represent.
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:47am
    - starboard
      
      What a filthy piece of feral scum this murri is. Out in 6.5 years. His mother must be so proud.
      
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      May 11, 2017 1:13pm
- GoVege
  
  Woman?
  She was a teenager….where the hell were her parents?
  
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  May 11, 2017 5:05pm
VicParking

“Man urges Councils to be sued over Havelock water contamination. Why can’t he sue them, I’m sure their will be a lawyer to do the job Pro Bono.

If the CEO of Air New Zealand says tourists would be willing to pay more to visit NZ then let them put up their air fares and pass the increase to the Government. DAH.
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May 11, 2017 8:42am
- wiseowl
  
  The report on the Havelock North contamination tells me the judge is unable to understand the roles of councils.
  The Hastings District Council has always been obstructive when it comes to compliance
  Sewage outfall.
  Havelock dams and other examples .
  The Regional Council was doing its job and when they told Hastings to fix the wellhead they were shown the finger .
  Hastings are at fault and should be hauled over the coals.
  Yule is like Houdini.
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:11am
EAD

As I’ve regularly noted – it’s always good to check the Jewish Press to see a different perspective than that of the MSM:

Jews and Muslims unite to ensure the 3rd world destruction of France is completed.

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/.premium-1.787486

An imam teams up with Jewish leaders to stop the far right candidate from taking the presidency: ‘The best way to fight this trend is to remain united’
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May 11, 2017 8:44am
- EAD
  
  6 downtickers and no response?
  
  If it’s not the Jews and Muslims uniting in France to keep the 3rd world deluge coming then it’s Jews who don’t even live in France doing their bit to destroy France.
  
  http://www.timesofisrael.com/a-continent-away-french-israelis-flock-to-polls-to-block-le-pens-rise/
  
  Remember, these voters live in a country that:
  
  • bans mixed marriage.
  • has separate schools, separate housing, separate roads and separate buses for Jews and Palestinians.
  • has a Jews-only immigration policy.
  • built a 30-kilometer fence along the border with Jordan to keep migrants and asylum seekers from entering Israel.
  • imprisons then deports African asylum seekers.
  • administered the birth control drug Depo Provera to Ethiopian Jews without their knowledge or consent.
  • prohibits Ethiopian Jews from donating blood.
  • bans gay marriage.
  
  Israel for Jews, France (with a liberalism) for everyone – Chutzpah or what?
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:40am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    6 downtickers and no response?
    
    You say that as though you’re disappointed there haven’t been more downtickers yet EAD 😎
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:54am
MCos

“While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau.”
Translation
You’re useless, except when you let me off the hook.
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May 11, 2017 8:55am
- MCos
  
  I’d have to say that if Hillary was President poor old Comey could rightly have expected a very similar letter for her too, although I doubt she would have been so gauche as to include the first bit in reference to the email investigation.
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:54am
  - Paulus
    
    Comey would have had a State Funeral under Hillary.
    
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    May 11, 2017 1:56pm
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/92455032/innovative-businesses-to-see-an-extra-75m-of-government-money

That’s not government money – it is taxpayer money!

Although I am in an industry that gains significantly from this trough, I am very much against it.

For more money to be made available to high-tech industries etc, other industries have to be taxed harder.

That means a baker gets to be less profitable (or maybe driven out of business) to subsidise some web company or such.

If these companies are really worth investing in then let private individuals invest. Don’t get the state involved.
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May 11, 2017 9:13am
- MCos
  
  There’s two questions here.
  Should the government be involved in financially helping private business with R & D, promotion etc?
  Does the money come at the expense of businesses that do no directly, or indirectly for that matter, benefit? Using your example, a baker is not levied specifically to pay for a subsidy to a web company.
  As you say it’s taxpayers money.
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:43am
kowtow

The media obsession with Trump and Putin allows them to take the focus off our diversity dividend and nefarious activities at home……

HK man sentenced to 15 years for meth smuggling and the strange case of the wealthy and well connected William Yan and the money laundering.

But our media wants to go Trump Trump Trump,Putin Putin Putin.
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May 11, 2017 9:23am
- stephieboy
  
  kowtow, as a matter of interst which MSM here did your source that HK meth smuggling ?
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:28am
- MCos
  
  I’ve just perused today’s NZ Herald. Three & half pages outlining the William Yan aka Yang Liu aka Yong Ming Yan saga.
  Two & half pages on the Comey sacking plus an editorial.
  Two pages on the RWC draw.
  Sounds about right considering the public interest.
  I note also that Mike Hoskings has a column.
  
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  May 11, 2017 11:37am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s relative to all our media , not just the NZ Herald.
    
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    May 11, 2017 12:17pm
    - MCos
      
      Kiwiblog is certainly chocker block full of Comey comments with nothing about those other stories you mention.
      
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      May 11, 2017 1:05pm
Hugh Pavletich

… New Zealand housing affordability: (With limp-wristed governance) Bureaucrats slowly learning the lessons of Greater Christchurch …

Best way to address housing affordability is boosting land supply, Building & Construction Minister Smith says after govt data details affordability struggles in Auckland | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/87638/best-way-address-housing-affordability-boosting-land-supply-building-construction

… What works in Greater Christchurch (no thanks to the Christchurch Council) may work in Auckland too ! … New Zealand bureaucrats are learning … slowly …

The number one answer to housing affordability issues is addressing land supply, Building & Construction Minister Nick Smith said after new data added to indicators of how difficult it has become for first-home buyers in Auckland to get on the property ladder.

Smith said he has been encouraged by flattening prices in Auckland, and referred to increasing affordability levels in Christchurch due to extra land coming on stream, as indicating that should also work for the Auckland market. … read more via hyperlink above …

This year’s Demographia Survey release 23 January …

Christchurch bucks trend in Demographia housing affordability survey – Business / Businessdesk – NZ Herald News

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11787125

… extract …

‘ … Affordability across the eight markets tracked in New Zealand deteriorated, rising to 5.9 in the third quarter of 2016 from 5.2 a year earlier. Auckland, the country’s only major market, was ranked a 10.0, up from 9.7 a year earlier, and making it the fourth least affordable market across the entire survey. Over the course of the year, the median house price in Auckland rose 9.7 per cent to $830,800, outpacing a 7.1 per cent rise in the median household income to $83,000.

However, Christchurch, the country’s second biggest city which is in the tail-end of a major reconstruction effort after a series of earthquakes in 2010 and 2011, improved its affordability ranking to 5.9 from 6.1 a year earlier, with house prices falling 5.5 per cent $435,300 while incomes rose 3.5 per cent to $73,900. … ‘

2017 13th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf

refer Figure 10 Page 26 above …
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May 11, 2017 9:27am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … and from Donald Ellis …
  THE GRAPH THAT SAYS IT ALL ! …
  
  CONSENT RATES PER 1000 POP PER ANNUM
  
  … extracted from …
  
  Restoring Affordable Housing: An Advocates Tale … Hugh Pavletich
  
  http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/definition-of-affordable-housing.html
  
  Why are the smaller units of Loal Govt responsive ?
  
  Bernard Hickey of Newsroom reported recently …
  
  https://pro.newsroom.co.nz/articles/1629-newsroom-pro-s-8-things-at-8-trolling-millennials-is-easy-defamation-retrials-loom
  
  7. Just in case you missed it…
  
  One curious coda to the RMA debate that concluded last week was that the Opposition parties plus ACT and United Future all voted again during the third reading debate for amendments that would have abolished Rural Urban Growth Boundaries and allowed the financing of infrastructure bonds paid for with targeted rates.
  
  The amendments were defeated by National and the Maori Party.
  
  The irony of a Government that has railed against restrictions on land development by councils voting against removing those restrictions should be noted. And also that the proposal for infrastructure bonds was backed by the right-leaning New Zealand Initiative and voted for by the Greens and Labour. Strange times indeed.
  .
  Why has Building Minister Nick Smith failed from mid last year to pull tohether a Grand Coalition on these issues ?
  
  NEW ZEALAND’S HOUSING CONSENSUS: WHERE IS THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP ? … HUGH PAVLETICH … NOT PC
  
  http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html
  
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  May 11, 2017 9:30am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Boring Hugh, fucking boring.
    
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    May 11, 2017 9:57am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Captain I am saving this spot for you as you have such a nice turn of phrase for foxtrot Oscar
    
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    May 11, 2017 10:00am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Capt Mainwaring … You are quite right !
      
      But what is even more ‘boring’ is watching Tired Tories actually doing anything.
      
      Now 10 weary years on …
      
      Here former leader Capt ‘Costa Concordia’ Key on the issue back in 2007 …
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
      
      … with access to his noble speeches at the time as well …
      
      https://www.google.co.nz/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+key+housing+reform+2007&spf=1494456274869
      
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      May 11, 2017 10:52am
  - cmm
    
    Is this Penny with pants on?
    
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    May 11, 2017 11:19am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Nick Smith floundering again on Morning Report this morning …
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/92456297/Better-for-first-home-buyers-now-Government?cid=app-iPad
      
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      May 11, 2017 11:46am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        ‘I see no way of ever being able to own my own home’ | Radio New Zealand News
        
        http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/330530/%27i-see-no-way-of-ever-being-able-to-own-my-own-home%27
        
        Young Aucklanders have given up on ever being able to afford a house, they say, but Prime Minister Bill English insists the government’s approach to housing is succeeding.
        
        Tyson Beckett, 26, works full time as an assistant manager at a food retailer in Auckland and said if she ever wanted to own a home she would have to leave the city.
        
        She spoke as new government analysis – the Housing Affordability Measure – showed two thirds of renters and 80 percent of potential first home buyers could not afford their housing costs. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        May 11, 2017 1:57pm
wiseowl

Hugh.
Cut immigration.
Simple.
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May 11, 2017 9:35am
Ross12

Can we expect to see Norman and Greenpeace floating around in Wellington Harbour protesting this activity ?
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/330521/drilling-to-begin-to-access-wellington%27s-undersea-freshwater
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May 11, 2017 9:36am
Keeping Stock

Kudos to Health Minister Jonathan Coleman for fighting fire with fire yesterday during Question Time:

11. Dr DAVID CLARK (Labour—Dunedin North) to the Minister of Health: Does he stand by his statement about the authors of the People’s Mental Health Report, “they’re very left-wing, anti-Government protesters”; if not, when will he apologise to the 500 people who wrote their own stories about experiences with the mental health system as part of the report?

Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Health): Yes, and my statement distinguished between the genuinely motivated story submitters and those ActionStation organisers with some political agenda. My quote was: “When you look at the people behind it, [you know] they’re very left-wing, anti-Government protesters.” As I say, ActionStation is back on Thursday with another, separate, anti-Government protest within the health area, and it could be back week after week with different topics. And just for the record, the ActionStation campaign coordinator is Mr Rick Zwaan, the Green Party’s Wellington election campaign coordinator, who used to work as Kennedy Graham’s researcher.[Interruption]

Mr SPEAKER: Order! [Interruption] Order! Supplementary question, Dr David Clark. [Interruption] Order! I have asked for less interjection from everybody so that Dr David Clark can ask his supplementary questions.

Dr David Clark: Has he read the report; if so, does he accept that its aim, as recorded in the executive summary, is to give space to the stories of what is really going on and going wrong in our mental health services?

Hon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN: Yes, I have read the report, and especially the executive summary, the first line of which is a totally false premise. It talks about $140 million being cut from health funding. Well, actually, health funding has gone up by $300 million, which kind of proves the point that this is a political document.

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20170510_20170510_08

First things first; Dr David Clark is no Annette King. Mrs King, to her credit, was all over her subject, whereas Dr Clark speaks in slogans.

Whereas Dr Coleman was a GP before entering Parliament, Dr Clark got his PhD for a thesis on the work of German refugee and existentialist thinker Helmut Herbert Hermann Rex. Clark has no previous experience in the health field, and yesterday, it showed.

Action Station’s motivation is primarily political; well done to Dr Coleman for shining a light on that yesterday
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May 11, 2017 9:51am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Coleman thinks we have a world class Mental Health System.
  Our prisons are full of mental health patients who can’t get treatment.
  Our suicide statistics are woeful.
  Our Mental Health system is broken, and even if there’s a bit more money chucked at it, the problems will not go away until there is a major overhaul.
  If Coleman finds that acceptable he’s a bloody disgrace and should be out of parliament on his ear.
  Beats me how you can defend that grade of stupidity and arrogance.
  
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  May 11, 2017 1:40pm
  - Paulus
    
    Why is it that our Mental Health of many people in New Zealand has grown dramatically in the last 10 years ?
    Can we look further into some sort of age grouping, ethnicity.
    Let’s have some analysis instead of speculating, or is it that nobody wants to tell.
    Why are we not looking into cause this rather than crying the horse has bolted.
    
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    May 11, 2017 1:59pm
stephieboy

Trump firing Comey is the beginning of a Nixon-like cover up, says editor who covered Watergate

Nixon resigned nine months after he fired a special prosecutor

“ It is hard to keep up with the number of people likening what has played out in Washington to events more than four decades ago during the term of America’s most notorious president.
One of them, Jeffrey Frank, a former senior editor of the New Yorker who had a close-up view of Richard Nixon’s downfall and eventual resignation 44 years ago, believes the parallels are strong, and has said he believes that as with Nixon, Donald Trump’s action in firing FBI Director James Comey carries the odour of “something being covered up”.
The occasion Mr Frank has in mind is the so-called Saturday Night Massacre, carried out on October 20 1973, when Nixon fired Archibald Cox, a special prosecutor who was looking into the burglary that would build into the Watergate scandal. Until Mr Trump dispatched a four-line letter to Mr Comey informing him he had been fired, the four decades ago episode was the last occasion that a president had fired somebody who was investigating him….”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-comey-firing-russia-investigation-nixon-watergate-cover-up-a7728426.html

Says it all.

Trumpets resign yourself to your der leaders fate !
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May 11, 2017 10:09am
- jonar
  
  Spicer isn’t coping…
  
  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/sean-spicer-hides-bushes-donald-trump-fires-james-comey-white-house-fbi-avoid-press-questions-a7727611.html
  
  Sean Spicer hid behind bushes near the White House as reporters clamoured to question him over James Comey’s sacking, it has been reported.
  
  The White House press secretary was much in demand on Tuesday night and, after giving a TV interview on an outside set, retreated to the safety of a nearby hedge, according to the Washington Post.
  
  After several minutes conferring with aides Mr Spicer emerged ready to provide answers, as long as they were not filmed, the Post said.
  
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  May 11, 2017 10:32am
  - mara
    
    According to the Washington comPost. Rubbish rag!
    
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    May 11, 2017 10:41am
    - jonar
      
      Yeah…the only way to deal with this is to rubbish the messenger…
      
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      May 11, 2017 10:59am
    - Paulus
      
      I notice that the Herald is using copies of the Washington Post papers.
      The biggest hater of Trump.
      
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      May 11, 2017 2:02pm
  - cha
    
    He was subbed today by Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
    
    John Huckabee passed on the job.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_rwyZ7qixw&feature=youtu.be
    
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    May 11, 2017 10:51am
- AgentBallSack
  
  “Comey stated that while Clintons use of a private email server was both reckless and illegal it didn’t warrant prosecution”
  
  Starting to get worried stephiebitch? The next FBI director may not quite see it in that light and your Queen is looking at some serious jail time a la Bradley Manning.
  
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  May 11, 2017 10:45am
krazykiwi

Clearly inspired after a fact-finding mission to Venezeula, UK Labour’s manifesto is a bold plan:
▣ Nationalisation of energy and rail
▣ Salary controls
▣ Rent controls
▣ Price controls
▣ Powerful unions
▣ ₤250b in borrowings

It’s enough to make 60+ year old Marxists weep for joy, and to give Labour their vote.

For the rest, heading back to the 1970s probably doesn’t appeal.

The [self] destruction of UK Labour continues apace.
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May 11, 2017 10:23am
Ross12

OMG ” odour of “something being covered up”
That falls into the could , maybe , possibly type of comment.
Nixon did not fired the FBI Director –I believe it was his boss, the AG.
BUT Clinton did fire the FBI Director in his time. I don’t recall Clinton disappearing soon after.
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May 11, 2017 10:28am
- jonar
  
  https://lawfareblog.com/nightmare-scenario-trump-fires-comey-one-man-who-would-stand-him
  
  The situation has no parallel with the only previous FBI director to be removed by a president: President Clinton’s firing of William Sessions, whose ethical misconduct was so extensive that it resulted in a six-month Justice Department investigation and a blistering 161-page report detailing his illicit activities, including flagrant misuse of public funds. Trump’s firing Comey at a time when Comey is investigating Russian intervention in the election on Trump’s behalf and the specific conduct of a number of people close to Trump undermines the credibility of his own presidency. And it deeply threatens the integrity of and public confidence in ongoing law enforcement and intelligence operations.
  
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  May 11, 2017 10:34am
  - Ross12
    
    jonar
    
    Have you read the letter the new Deputy AG Rosenstein sent to AG Sessions who subsequently added his agreement in a letter sent to Trump ?
    Rosenstein was almost unanimously endorsed in the vote to accept his nomination –ie. he is a 30 year veteran public servant that both sides respect.
    He clearly sets out the case for Comey breaking rules etc.
    A copy is shown in this link
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-09/president-trump-fires-fbi-director-james-comey
    
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    May 11, 2017 10:56am
  - VicParking
    
    But Trump had a five page report saying it was safe to enter the mine, woops sorry wrong bullshit story.
    
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    May 11, 2017 11:51am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Do you (and others) really believe that firing Comey will somehow end any investigations, seriously ? There’s a Grand Jury (something I don’t think they empanelled for Clinton for some reason) investigating Flynn’s contacts, is that about to stop (BTW, the answer is no).
    
    Rosenstein’s letter sets out absolutely normal reasons to terminate Comey’s appointment. Any successor needs to be approved by the Senate, how is Trump supposed to gain from this ?
    
    Comey had a very low public trust approval (mainly because of the Democratic narrative one must add) and was dragging down trust in the FBI.
    
    I guess if you think Trump is just Hitler in a new guise and any minute a new Reichstag fire will happen and Trump will grab absolute power suddenly, then it makes some kind of twisted sense.
    
    But to most people, it looks an awful lot like just another fake crisis to try to delegitimize Trump .
    
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    May 11, 2017 12:48pm
cha

So, American media weren’t allowed into the Oval Office, but state-backed Russian journalists were.

http://mashable.com/2017/05/10/trump-lets-russian-photogrphers-into-meeting/
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May 11, 2017 10:30am
- AgentBallSack
  
  The great thing about snowflakes melting is the tears of impotent rage. 🙂
  
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  May 11, 2017 10:49am
  - axeman
    
    Yep here’s another snowflake TRIGGERED http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2017/05/10/comey-firing-dilbert-creator-laughs-unhinged-keith-olbermann-tweet
    
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    May 11, 2017 11:55am
- cha
  
  Bloke asked…
  
  Deadly serious Q: Was it a good idea to let a Russian gov photographer & all their equipment into the Oval Office? https://t.co/6WA4NxHxID— Colin Kahl (@ColinKahl) May 10, 2017
  
  …former deputy director of the CIA replied.
  
  @ColinKahl No, it was not.— David S. Cohen (@cohendavid) May 10, 2017
  
  https://twitter.com/cohendavid/status/862350083576127488
  
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  May 11, 2017 11:35am
  - mikenmild
    
    I’m sure the Secret Service are very thorough about sweeping the Oval Office after every visit by foreign spies. Happens all the time…
    
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    May 11, 2017 1:42pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Oh, sure, in the midst of a photo shoot they quickly bugged the oval office and hacked the Whitehouse email system. No wait, that was the Chinese in Obama’s time, didn’t seem to cause much outrage at the time as I recall.
    
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    May 11, 2017 1:46pm
- VicParking
  
  BoHoo. Why do they need to be there when they make it all up anyway.
  
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  May 11, 2017 11:48am
AgentBallSack

I don’t know why we bother having windmills above Wellington when we could nail stephiebitch to one blade and ztev to the other, the spin they provide on this blog could power the country in perpetuity.
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May 11, 2017 10:51am
RF

I was watching TV last night supping a single malt when Dr. Megan Wood appeared on the screen. She was in her usual sharp tongued shrew mode.

I sat there looking at the ugly old troll thinking that she looked familiar and slowly went back through my memory banks to my childhood days.

Suddenly I had a my fair lady moment .. “by George I got it.”

Think of the muppets and the puppet “Miss Piggy”.

That’s her !!!!!!!!!
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May 11, 2017 10:59am
Dave Stringer

Hmm
A question for American Law buffs

Could Congress appoint an ex-head of the FBI as a special prosecutor to investigate the Trump Campaign Russia connection?
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May 11, 2017 11:12am
- Ross12
  
  Dave
  This article ( based on info from Reuters and Bloomberg ) answers your question –see the 5 Q&A at the bottom.
  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-10/heres-what-happens-next-fbis-russian-probe-after-comeys-firing
  
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  May 11, 2017 11:22am
  - Kimbo
    
    Ah, didn’t see you post and read the link before I posted at 11:34. So, no:
    
    Could an independent counsel take over?
    That’s no longer an option. Investigations into Bill Clinton’s finances and personal behavior, and into the Iran-Contra affair — the secret effort under President Ronald Reagan to aid right-wing guerrillas in Nicaragua with money raised from the sale of arms to Iran — were handled by “independent counsels,” called “special prosecutors” until 1983. They were chosen by a panel of three judges after an attorney general declared a need to bring in someone from outside government. But that position doesn’t exist anymore; the law authorizing it was allowed to expire in 1999.
    
    Did anything replace it?
    Yes. Since 1999, the Justice Department has had the authority to appoint a “special counsel” from outside government — “a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decision making” — to take over an investigation that poses a conflict of interest for the department. A special counsel answers to the attorney general, so isn’t fully independent, but is supposed to “not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the department
    
    As an aside, and with apologies to Graeme Edgeler and…yeah, ok, even David Garrett, but isn’t “a lawyer with a reputation for integrity” a bit like why Jesus could never be born in Australia? You would never find three wise men and a virgin? 😉
    
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    May 11, 2017 11:42am
- Kimbo
  
  I’m no constitutional expert but as it is the legislative branch, and not the executive branch, they can appoint anyone who is not currently in the executive. Like Kenneth Starr was with the Bill Clinton Whitewater investigation…and Starr went where he did with his investigation. So yes…I think so. As log as there is not a conflict of interest, but that can be grey in terms of how and who alleges and determines it.
  
  Also President Johnson appointed a sitting Supreme Court judge (so that is the judicial branch), indeed the Chief Justice, Earl Warren to lead the investigation into the JFK assassination.
  
  Also, btw, I’m no Trump fan but have I got this right in terms of how his partisan critics could have played this:
  
  If Trump did not fire Comey, that is a conflict of interest as Comey allegedly threw Trump’s election opponent, Hillary Clinton under the bus a few days before polling day.
  
  If Trump did fire Comey that is a conflict of interest as he is the head of the law-enforcement agency currently conducting inquiries into alleged Russian activities that benefited Trump’s campaign.
  
  Irrespective of whether this is another “Saturday Night Massacre” (and in that example Nixon wanted a specific special investigator into Watergate gone, not just a department head, so it was more direct),
  
  …have I got the options to create a Comey-gate right?
  
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  May 11, 2017 11:34am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Trump fired Comey on Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein’s recommendation.
    Rosenstein got massive bi partisan support for his appointment from the US Senate who voted 94:6 to appoint him.
    94:6!
    Iirc, the Attorneys General for the last 5 or so Presidents all agree Comey had overstepped his authority and had to go.
    The TDS going on is hilarious. These people are just mental.
    
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    May 11, 2017 12:22pm
    - cha
      
      Trump fired Comey on Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein’s recommendation.
      
      Rosenstein’s memo noted – the President has the power to remove an FBI Director, the decision should not be taken lightly – but made no recommendation.
      
      https://www.justsecurity.org/40771/strange-perhaps-telling-omission-rosenstein-memo/
      
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      May 11, 2017 12:31pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Oh come on. The whole memo provides the basis for Trump to fire him.
        The case to do so is laid out in black and white.
        Edit – shit, your link lists all the reasons Comey should go and you argue that’s not a recommendation? Lol.
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:35pm
      - Ross12
        
        The recommendation came in Sessions letter to the President. That is how it should be as Sessions is/was Comey’s boss.
        
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        May 11, 2017 4:41pm
      - cha
        
        heh
        
        Rosenstein threatened to resign after the narrative emerging from the White House on Tuesday evening cast him as a prime mover of the decision to fire Comey and that the president acted only on his recommendation, said the person close to the White House, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.
        
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-trumps-anger-and-impatience-prompted-him-to-fire-the-fbi-director/2017/05/10/d9642334-359c-11e7-b373-418f6849a004_story.html?tid=a_breakingnews&hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar#pq=rrnl7U
        
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        May 11, 2017 8:55pm
    - jonar
      
      Your typical cries of TDS are hilarious as you ignore the fact that some republicans think the firing was a bad idea.
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/10/james-comey-fired-fbi-senate-response-russia-investigation
      
      The Republican Senate intelligence committee chairman, Richard Burr, called the timing of and reasons given for Comey’s dismissal “troubling” and said it “further confuses an already difficult investigation” into alleged Russian interference with the 2016 election. John Kasich, the governor of Ohio and a primary opponent of Trump’s, went further, saying he was “extremely troubled by the circumstances surrounding the dismissal”, while John McCain, another outspoken foe of the president, said he was “disappointed
      
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      May 11, 2017 12:42pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        John McCain? John Kasich?
        Oh please. So what.The GOP is a broad church. Only a moron would think there’s going to be 100% agreement all the time. And then nit pick about it.
        It’s funny that you guys can’t see how pathetic your arguments are.
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:45pm
      - jonar
        
        Only a moron would keep crying “TDS” when it’s not just democrats that are critizing Trump.
        
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        May 11, 2017 12:49pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        TDS refers to the oh so obvious desperation to find some little nit pick to criticise Trump to the point where objectivity is completely discarded and the bias of the commentator is clearly evident.
        McCain and Kasich have TDS bigly- probably cause they’re still butt hurt from the Campaign.
        As I said, it’s pathetic but also amusing.
        
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        May 11, 2017 1:16pm
      - jonar
        
        Uh huh, look at all the Republicans “nit-picking”…
        
        https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/just-a-quarter-of-gop-senators-have-defended-trumps-firing-of-comey/
        
        Fifteen said the firing raised concerns, said Trump should provide more information about his decision or questioned the “timing” of Comey’s firing. An additional 21 senators issued vague statements that neither directly defended Trump’s action nor questioned it. FiveThirtyEight could not find a stated position from four Republican senators
        
        In total, three-quarters of GOP senators stopped short of a full-throated endorsement of Trump’s decision. That lack of strong support from Senate Republicans is striking — they have overwhelmingly backed his more high-profile decisions, such as to launch an attack on Syria for its alleged use of chemical weapons.
        
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        May 11, 2017 1:36pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        McCain is a most definite sufferer from TDS, has been for some time. Kasich is and was a flake.
        
        There’s a good chance that this is just Trump playing inside your heads again.
        
        You do know that the Russians don’t need to do anything to undermine democracy in the USA, right now, the Democrats and the MSM are doing it all for them. That was probably always Putin’s plan, and the Democrats are acting, once again, as the perfect patsys.
        
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        May 11, 2017 1:52pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Ex DNI Clapper(a Democrat) has confirmed no evidence of collusion. Senator Feinstein (D) a senior member of the Judiciary committee came back from meeting the CIA yesterday and also confirmed no evidence.
  There is a bipartisan Congressional committee investigating as well as others.
  No crime has yet to be found. What crime would the Special Prosecutor prosecute?
  
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  May 11, 2017 12:27pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Hang on- Breaking News
    Trump meets with Russian Submarine Commander!
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_ddenVXsAERm9-?format=jpg&name=large
    
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    May 11, 2017 12:29pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yeh, I just find the whole idea of Russia trying to influence the election, or collusion between Trump and Russia, very far-fetched.
    
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    May 11, 2017 4:28pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Why?
      
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      May 11, 2017 4:33pm
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/92407776/waitara-playcentre-disappointed-with-fruit-smashers

Get used to it kids…. In a few years you’ll also be paying tax to fund these scum too.
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May 11, 2017 11:24am
Fletch

Stephen Colbert needs to school his audience on what the narrative is today re: Comey after they all cheer when Colbert announces that Comey is being fired. The liberals alternate between loving and hating Comey depending on what day it is so how is the audience supposed to know? 😆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCVBEE1SfXI

One day he is loved for letting Hillary off the hook – the next day hated and blamed by her for losing the election. Now it has to be viewed as bad that he was fired (only because Trump did it). They can’t keep it consistent. Honestly, I don’t think they have a opinion of their own regarding Comey. It just has to be anti-Trump.
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May 11, 2017 11:32am
- cha
  
  They can’t keep it consistent.
  
  You’re right, they can’t.
  
  Jeff Sessions in November on Fox News: "FBI Director Comey did the right thing when he found new evidence. He had no choice" pic.twitter.com/9fMc7FPgCm— John Whitehouse (@existentialfish) May 10, 2017
  
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  May 11, 2017 11:38am
  - jonar
    
    They can’t keep it consistent
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/10/it-took-guts-how-trump-once-praised-james-comey-video
    
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    May 11, 2017 12:17pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do sir?”
      John Maynard Keynes
      You two snowflakes really are a couple of fuckwits if you think that a position should remain fixed FOREVER.
      Oh wait- that’s the Lefty way. Hahahahaha
      
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      May 11, 2017 12:43pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Colberts a cockholster for the Democratic Party elite.
  
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  May 11, 2017 11:53am
VicParking

UK Labour’s manifesto has been leaked (stolen and given) to the BBC. That would never happen in NZ as NZ’s Liebour dont seem to have one other than “run early and concentrate on the rear drivers side wheel”
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May 11, 2017 11:44am
Swifty

Arrives here in 2012, goes mental and kills and nearly kills in 2013, jailed in 2015, released this year and will not be deported because her son is here.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92427180/convicted-killer-guan-zhi-yu-avoids-deportation-on-release

What say you KB readers?
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May 11, 2017 11:49am
- kowtow
  
  Embrace the diversity?
  
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  May 11, 2017 12:12pm
- 4077th
  
  Right, so if you kill anyone else in the next 5 years we will deport you. Wait, what is that brightly coloured van at the bottom of the cliff?
  
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  May 11, 2017 12:27pm
JasonJohns

Trump sent a clear message and won a huge victory by sacking Comey but still some people don’t get it. Senate refuses to give up the Russia inquiry and has now subpoenaed Michael Flynn. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/may/10/donald-trump-fires-fbi-director-james-comey-reaction-live
Time for Trump to shut down these inquiries once and for all so he can get on with the job a landslide of American voters elected him to do.
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May 11, 2017 12:00pm
- jonar
  
  Time for Trump to shut down these inquiries
  
  You’re right, it’s time he just declared his Dictatorship and got it out in the open.
  
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  May 11, 2017 12:18pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    #TDS
    Lol
    
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    May 11, 2017 12:50pm
    - jonar
      
      Come on AOR, give us your opinion on Obama if he’d just done the same as Trump. Would it be a problem or not?
      
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      May 11, 2017 12:55pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        No.
        Look I liked Comey- at first.It’s obvious Loretta Lynch was being obstructive and not moving forward on Clinton.
        Remember Comey can’t charge anyone- only investigate and present evidence.
        I’m speculating but I wonder if his frustration lead him down this path where he overstepped. In the hearings he’s been all over the place. I don’t know why he went over the top -we may never know.
        But reading Rosensteins memo it’s pretty damning- especially what the previous AGs say.
        Back to Obama- what about those comments to Putin about him have more leeway after the Election? That’s on video!
        The real scandal here is the use by Obamas Admin of the spying on Americans. That’s what needs to be investigated. And Podestas links. And I also think Trump had a lucky escape firing Flynn. Not sure Flynn will be charged but he was no good.
        
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        May 11, 2017 1:04pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    That’s right, he’s stopped all inquiries on the spot and nobody can do anything because of the fear of that late night knock on the door…..LOL
    
    You know, for journalists, that was closer to reality under Obama, not that you’d ever be able to acknowledge it.
    
    TDS is literally people losing their reason.
    
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    May 11, 2017 1:56pm
JasonJohns

Chris Christie would make a fine director of the FBI. Rudy Giuliani is another name Trump will be considering.

Trump just keeps winning. He’s won more in 100 days than many Presidents in 8 years.
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May 11, 2017 12:02pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jason Johns ,Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani ? Law enforcement experience ?
  
  “Chris Christie: The Most Corrupt Governor in America”
  
  Seriously, mark your calendars because Sunday’s playoff game in Dallas heralded the end of the Christie presidential campaign — that is if it ever existed in the first place.
  
  http://thedailybanter.com/2015/01/chris-christie-corrupt-governor-america/
  
  LMAO !
  
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  May 11, 2017 2:27pm
cha

Smells like RICO.

And the committee has requested documents on Trump from the Treasury Departments’s money laundering unit, NBC News had confirmed.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/what-you-need-know-about-trump-comey-russia-probe-n757191
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May 11, 2017 12:04pm
Odakyu-sen

In the Herald today
“‘Maori are not indigenous’: Mt Taranaki playboy model’s baffling claim”

How dare she question the sacred narrative!
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It does raise an interesting point. Does “indigenous” mean “first in,” regardless of the number of years between first landing and secondary colonization. For example, 1,280 A.D. for Maori and then 500-odd years thereafter for Europeans/Americans?

Or are does there have to be a (Marxist-recognized) oppressor/oppressed relationship for the “me-firsters” to be granted “indigenous” status. For example, by this line of reasoning, Japanese are not indigenous to Japan (that would be the Ainu).
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May 11, 2017 12:24pm
- 4077th
  
  Indigenous: “naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place”.
  
  She will have attracted the usual moaning hoards trying to re-write history for their own gain but she does have a valid point. However, getting naked atop a mountain is not particularly clever and any argument she has is diminished by her very actions.
  
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  May 11, 2017 12:42pm
- JasonJohns
  
  That model is putting forward the story of NZ history that John Ansell one of our foremost scholars has long championed, viz that white people are the tangata whenua of NZ. John and Martin Doutre have found stone cities deep in the bush and also observatories on Auckland hills. http://www.kilts.co.nz/mitancient.htm
  
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  May 11, 2017 12:53pm
  - stephieboy
    
    JasonJohns , and Odakyu-sen , including naturally skeletal remains , pot shards , iron or bronze tools and weapons and not forgetting DNA ?
    
    Martin Doutre etc like you both deluded much !
    
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    May 11, 2017 2:20pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Claptrap from delusional minds with racist agendas.
    
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    May 11, 2017 3:29pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    JasonJohn,
    
    I am not familiar with John Ansell’s research. I doubt that “white people” would have reached New Zealand prior to Able Tasman (where would the motivation to come this far be?). Also, if such a group had the technology to make it this far, there would be remains and other traces, as the stephies point out.
    
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    May 11, 2017 3:49pm
    - mikenmild
      
      John Ansell is not a researcher, much less an historian. His motivation to use the spurious findings of pseudohistorians like Doutre is grounded in his desire to marginalise Maori claims in the present day.
      In this regard he is similar to the nineteenth century racial theorists who speculated that Maori had conquered an earlier Moriori race – a clear justification for their own subsequent conquest.
      
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      May 11, 2017 3:52pm
      - JasonJohns
        
        I see you have been downticked heavily mike. This shows to me once again that Kiwibloggers can see right through the PC NWO establishment version ofNZ history and recognise that Martin Doutre and John Ansell are right when they say that we were settled thousands of years ago by an advanced white civilisation.
        
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        May 11, 2017 5:37pm
      - JasonJohns
        
        FYI mike
        http://www.celticnz.co.nz/Silverdale/Silverdale%20Boulders.htm
        don’t you find that amazing?
        
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        May 11, 2017 5:59pm
    - JasonJohns
      
      Odakyu-sen,
      
      Martin Doutre says that thousands of years ago there was a powerful peaceful technologically advanced white civilisation that settled the whole world and had a great school of learning on Easter Island. These whites built all the great monuments of antiquity and brought their wisdom to NZ. Sadly they fell victim to the ancestors of Maori who stole their tiki and carvings. John Ansell one of the most respected men in NZ has investigated Martin’s claims and finds them correct. Sadly a conspiracy has placed the huge cities left by the ancient white civilisation off limits and destroyed many artefacts. But on Kiwiblog we know the truth. Note that agents of PC have made a systematic attack on Ansell and his association with Doutre http://all-embracing.episto.org/2012/09/06/ansell-and-doutre/
      
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      May 11, 2017 5:42pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Jason,
        Wow.
        Let’s see if I get the logic. A civilization of whites with the power to build all the great monuments of antiquity bring their wisdom to NZ. (Where are the pottery fragments?)
        And this mighty culture is in NZ first. Some time (a couple of hundred years, perhaps?) before the arrival of a few canoes of starving seafarers, who then proceed to destroy said mighty white culture.
        Hmmmmm. Something doesn’t add up.
        Can you help me better understand what might have happened?
        
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        May 11, 2017 6:10pm
- Paulus
  
  Look at the word “Aboriginal” in this context.
  
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  May 11, 2017 2:08pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Paulus , “Aboriginal” ?
    
    Your point ?
    
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    May 11, 2017 2:31pm
  - mikenmild
    
    ‘Aboriginal’ is, strictly speaking, the correct term for the original inhabitants of a geographic area. ‘Indigenous’ has, however, come to mean the same thing for most purposes.
    
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    May 11, 2017 3:34pm
- SPC
  
  No, because Japanese do not exist anywhere but Japan and they are a distinctive ethnic group.
  
  In other nations the latter arrivals/immigrants/colonists are often diverse and thus form a multi-cultural/ethnic society alongside (or inclusive of) the indigenous people (see USA and Canada and their reservations).
  
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  May 11, 2017 2:46pm
Stars And Stripes

Australian Green senator breastfeeds baby on floor of Parliament
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/92461908/australian-senator-breastfeeds-baby-on-floor-of-parliament

Nothing like using your children for a cheap publicity stunt.
Poor bloody kid having a flake like this for a parent.
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May 11, 2017 12:36pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  When Ruth Richardson tried that she was sent out of the room.
  At least times have changed now (at least in Australia).
  
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  May 11, 2017 1:41pm
- Longknives
  
  Using an infant child for a publicity stunt/protest..
  The Left are so classy!
  
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  May 11, 2017 1:58pm
Stars And Stripes

Syrian refugees settle into new life in Dunedin
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/330562/'we-felt-like-we're-home‘
“Friendly bus drivers, growing vegetables in their garden and a welcoming community have helped a Syrian refugee family settle in to their new life in Dunedin.
The one-year anniversary of the first refugees’ arrival has been marked by Southern District Health Board putting an extra $1.34 million towards support services for the new arrivals, including primary health care, interpreter services, mental health support and dental services”.

Great little pro refugee propaganda fluff piece from Radio NZ telling us the story of a couple of queue jumpers who have been here nearly a year and are still on the dole with no prospect of work but at least we now know they are happy sucking away at all the freebies being thrown their way.
It was very kind of the local health board to celebrate in such a generous fashion also by throwing extra money at these bludgers to try and rid their miserable bodies of whatever bugs they host.
I’m sure all the New Zealanders on the surgical waiting lists will be thrilled to bits as well.
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May 11, 2017 12:54pm
starboard

Mornin trendsetters..hmm, watermelon or fresh mango for brekky?

**Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari must go**

Away with yee ya filthy deviant, and take Woodhouse with ya.
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May 11, 2017 1:26pm
Captain Mainwaring

Yay, free doctor’s visits for the mentally ill.
Vote Labour and go mental (if that condition didn’t cause you to vote for them in the first place).

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92465439/mental-health-consults-at-the-gp-free-under-labour-andrew-little-announces
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May 11, 2017 1:38pm
Stars And Stripes

Another Wicked Campers Complaint Upheld
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11853823.
“In the latest complaint against Webb’s company in New Zealand, the phrase “I’d rather be dead than cool” featured next to a drawing of Mr T from the A-Team TV show.
The phrase is a lyric in the Nirvana song Stay Away.
The complainant said this was offensive to those who had lost loved ones.
The majority said the quote on the back of the van, without context, was likely to cause serious or widespread offence and could be seen to trivialise death using the uncontrolled medium of vehicle signage”.

Are you serious?.
Sorry but that is just nonsense and yes free speech in NZ is definitely under attack by rulings such as this.
The thought police are on the hunt.
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May 11, 2017 1:48pm
Manolo

The peculiar logic of a clown:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/10/maxine_waters_i_dont_support_trump_firing_comey_i_would_support_hillary_clinton_firing_comey.html
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May 11, 2017 2:08pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, do share with us a sample of your postings pre election re Comey and the Clinton emails.
  
  You can give a confident and categorical assurance that Trump’s firing had absolutely nothing to do with Comey homing in on the Russian Trump pre election connection ?
  
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  May 11, 2017 2:16pm
Manolo

stephieboy claims the offenders are NOT true Muslims:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4492336/Sweden-falls-love-migrants.html

Sweden has a much more negative view of immigration following a spate of horrifying sex attacks, a new reports finds.
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May 11, 2017 2:14pm
SPC

More unwelcome/fake news.

Latest poll (Quinnipiac University)

Trump’s disapproval rating at 58%, 36% approval.

51% strongly disapprove and 25% strongly approve.

Honesty: 33 per cent say he is
Good leadership skills: 56 per cent say he doesn’t have them
Caring about average people: 59 per cent say he doesn’t
Being level-headed: Voters say 66-29 he’s not
Being intelligent: Voters say only 56-41 that he is
Sharing your values: Voters say 64-32 that he doesn’t

How he’s treated the news media: Voters disapprove 65-31

Whether people trust him or the media more for the truth: 57 per cent media, 31 per cent Trump (even 17 per cent of Republicans pick the media over their president)

Whites without college degrees approved of Trump 57 per cent to 38 per cent in the mid-April Q poll and 51-39 in late March/early May; today they are split, with 47 per cent approving and 46 per cent disapproving.

Looks like that health care change is not popular with these voters.
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May 11, 2017 2:14pm
- JasonJohns
  
  Why post stuff that is so obviously fabricated?
  
  Trump won by a landslide. Even with all the HRC ballot-rigging which Trump is preparing to reveal he still won. He must have been twenty million votes out in front.
  
  And now he is even more popular. Look at the crowds.
  
  There are three reasons why he’s so popular
  
  1. He’s a winner
  2. He eats losers for breakfast
  3. He has the vision to complete his mission
  
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  May 11, 2017 5:56pm
Johnboy

Stiff shit. Trumps here for almost another four years unless the Clintonites can impeach him! 🙂
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May 11, 2017 2:21pm
- stephieboy
  
  Johnboy , Gone by Chrisitmas !
  
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  May 11, 2017 2:32pm
  - Johnboy
    
    They said that about me last time I got banned stephie darlink! 🙂
    
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    May 11, 2017 3:36pm
  - Manolo
    
    Do you want to bet someting, stephieboy?
    
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    May 11, 2017 3:49pm
Johnboy

Speaking of banned……Welcome back Kea!! 🙂
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May 11, 2017 3:37pm
Happychappy

Another day in Parliament Question Time and another childish display by Winston Peter’s and you can understand why his MP’s appear like they are lazy and loose on their facts when asking questions. Winston likes respect in Parliament when speaking but does not offer the same accord to others.
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May 11, 2017 3:55pm
- stigie
  
  It appears Simon Bridges had the better of him today….
  
  Winston would not like that !~
  
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  May 11, 2017 4:29pm
Manolo

Does NZ need more of these backward-looking and primitive people?
http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21721651-they-are-clinging-patriarchy-comfort-sorry-state-arab-men

In such an atmosphere, violence and harassment are common. In the four countries surveyed, 10% to 45% of men who have ever been married admitted to having beaten their wives.

Between 31% and 64% of men admitted that they had harassed women in the street. Fewer than half of Moroccan men think marital rape should be criminalised; most expect their wives to have sex on demand. Some 70% of Egyptian men still approve of female genital mutilation.
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May 11, 2017 4:27pm
- Longknives
  
  Just think of the wonderful ‘Enrichment’ and ‘Diversity’ they bring to our Community Manolo!
  
  Okay there may be a few ‘Sexual Emergencies’ when they see our Scantily-Clad Western Women.. But surely that’s a small price to pay for leading the World in ‘Tolerance’?..
  
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  May 11, 2017 5:14pm
Stars And Stripes

Government secures 870 more emergency houses aimed at helping 10,000 Kiwis in need per year.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92466112/amy-adams-more-emergency-housing-available-for-kiwis-sleeping-rough

Oh great more houses for the feckless and drug addled to wreck at taxpayers expense.
Give it a couple of months and boards will be going over broken windows, shopping trolleys abandoned in the front yard, cars up on blocks and all the other trappings ferals decorate state houses with.
More good money down the drain.
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May 11, 2017 5:06pm
Fletch

Headline of the day –

Gay baboon terrorizes villagers in South Africa, rapes 5 men.

https://www.facebook.com/JoburgerOfficial/photos/a.459561954254684.1073741827.459536507590562/629483947262483/?type=3&theater
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May 11, 2017 5:34pm
nasska

It’s got me beat how a man who has any balls or a vestige of pride could put his wife through the public humiliation that Colin Craig is determined to do. From http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92368584/colin-craigs-letter-to-rachel-macgregor-read-out-in-court

…..”But Craig said he and MacGregor shared a “very close and affectionate” relationship”…..

Yet

….”The letters praised MacGregor for her work and as a person, and often referred to their mutual Christian beliefs”…..

That from the (ex) leader of the morals party. Give the rest of us some of that old time conservative religion & let’s have an orgy!
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May 11, 2017 5:35pm
- Kimbo
  
  I think I may have mentioned that part of the reason Cecil B DeMille used to do Biblical epics was that it gave him a way to beat the censors staging decadent orgy scenes from the likes of ancient Egypt, Babylon or Rome, often with LA call girls as extras. “Hey, it’s in the Bible, so I gotta show it!”
  
  Something to remember when someone says “we need more of those wholesome classics like ‘The Ten Commandments”, and “Ben Hur” on TV at Easter and Christmas”.
  
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  May 11, 2017 5:39pm
  - Longknives
    
    Ben Hur is an awesome movie (Love me some Charlton Heston) – Almost as good as Spartacus!
    (How about Kirk Douglas still being alive and going strong?)
    
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    May 11, 2017 5:53pm
    - mikenmild
      
      What did you like best about Ben Hur – the gay plotline?
      
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      May 11, 2017 6:03pm
      - Longknives
        
        Strange Comment Mikenmild- Are you a Homophobe??
        
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        May 11, 2017 8:07pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I didn’t pick up on it when I first saw it as a kid, but when I watched about twenty years ago it was really quite hilarious.
        Apparently Charlton Heston was the only one who was unaware of the gay theme.
        
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        May 11, 2017 8:11pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Does that mean I should avert my eyes when the Queen does her Xmas message then Kimbo?
    
    (Not wanting to be regarded as an empireite of course) 🙂
    
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    May 11, 2017 5:57pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Now, now, Johnboy. Our family always watches the Queen’s Christmas Message, 6:50pm every year. Great Lady is QEII – God bless you ma’am, and all who sail in her. 😉
      
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      May 11, 2017 9:32pm
- stigie
  
  Why is it, there seems to be deviants in every religion..?
  Why can’t they keep it together ?
  
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  May 11, 2017 5:48pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Not in the eweofucks religion stigie.
    We never deviate from our path to righteousness! 🙂
    
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    May 11, 2017 5:51pm
  - nasska
    
    They can’t even keep it in their trousers stigie but the wankers still feel qualified to dictate the way the rest of us live our lives.
    
    Arseholes to a man/woman/pedophile!
    
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    May 11, 2017 5:56pm
Johnboy

Us Eweofucks never distinguish between man/woman/pedophile nasska….Will this make us blessed among men? 🙂
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May 11, 2017 6:00pm
- nasska
  
  You should inherit a kingdom given a track record like that JB. 🙂
  
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  May 11, 2017 6:03pm
  - mikenmild
    
    “Blessed are the sheep-shaggers, because the kingdom of Wainuiomata belongs to them.”
    
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    May 11, 2017 6:06pm
    - Johnboy
      
      Lo sayeth the shepherd when the HOBM comes amongst the anointed ones at William Jones old chap! 🙂
      
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      May 11, 2017 6:11pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From 1997 here’s Fur Patrol and Man In A Box:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcYw2opDXw4

Should be worth a few upticks tonight given it’s a female rock vocalist.
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May 11, 2017 6:09pm
- krazykiwi
  
  There are some downtick losers out there! Thanks for sharing these.
  
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  May 11, 2017 6:24pm
Johnboy

To hell with all that crap. Is it just me or have all of you jokers got a huge hard on checking out the cleavage on those Russkie wimmin DPF keeps shoving in front of us? 🙂
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May 11, 2017 6:10pm
- mikenmild
  
  It depends on your browser history.
  You should probably be inundated with advertising for personal lubricants and animal husbandry services.
  
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  May 11, 2017 6:11pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Are you telling me that all those free samples of lanolin are just a con milkey?
    
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    May 11, 2017 6:13pm
Odakyu-sen

And now, lets talk about chopsticks.
Chinese vs. Korean vs. Japanese chopsticks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyevVQ1Dubc

Nothing like Japanese chopsticks for eating boiled snapper heads. Delicious!
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May 11, 2017 6:12pm
- nasska
  
  Only a fiendishly cunning yet masochistic nation such as Japan with a staple diet consisting of grains of rice flavoured with extremely small pieces of roadkill could have invented the chopstick.
  
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  May 11, 2017 6:19pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    nasska,
    
    Roadkill is not as common on Japanese roads as the ubiquitous possums of New Zealand.
    
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    May 11, 2017 6:22pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Chopsticks originated in China, but have been perfected for Japanese cuisine.
    I don’t like Chinese chopsticks outside of Chinese restaurants. You can’t cut your food with them.
    
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    May 11, 2017 6:24pm
Johnboy

Nothing like shaped charges for starting the cooking of Japanese Odakyu-sen. 🙂
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May 11, 2017 6:16pm
- dad4justice
  
  I chop up sticks to light the log burner.
  
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  May 11, 2017 6:20pm
  - stigie
    
    You allowed to burn timber down your way Dad..?
    
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    May 11, 2017 6:36pm
    - mikenmild
      
      What’s his way of burning timber down?
      
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      May 11, 2017 6:38pm
Odakyu-sen

Johnboy,
Japanese generally don’t used shaped charges when they cook.

The one exception would be shaped wasabi paste (see video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyXEvjsvU2k) that is a kind of “shaped charge,” even if it’s not the one that you are alluding to.

BTW. What’s for dinner tonight? Japanese?
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May 11, 2017 6:20pm
- Johnboy
  
  No. We use shaped charges to set off the pit when we cook Japanese old chap. 🙂
  
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  May 11, 2017 6:25pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Feel the buuuuuuuurnnnn!
    
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    May 11, 2017 6:36pm
Johnboy

Some of us still think that we didn’t cook enough of you especially Hirohito. 🙂
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May 11, 2017 6:26pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Johnboy,
  
  You are refreshingly honest. I like that!
  I regret that there are not more like you here in Auckland.
  
  (I take it that you live south of the Bombay Hills?)
  
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  May 11, 2017 6:36pm
  - nasska
    
    The poor bugger lives further south than Eketahuna even. Spends winter running around the vales of Wainuiomata dressed in nought but mutton fat & seal skins. 🙂
    
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    May 11, 2017 6:40pm
    - mikenmild
      
      His courting attire – in green and black of course.
      
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      May 11, 2017 6:42pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      OMG! Nasska,
      
      You dare invoke the savage imagery of “the vales of Wainuiomata”?!
      
      (You are putting me off my dinner.)
      
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      May 11, 2017 6:44pm
    - Johnboy
      
      We haven’t been allowed to zap a seal since DOC got all touchy-feely nasska!
      
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      May 11, 2017 6:46pm
Johnboy

Not at all old chap. There is no life south of the Bombay Hills….. Ask any Jafa.
We merely just exist here in the nether regions! 🙂

You sound like a chap who really should get out more Odakyu-sen! 🙂
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May 11, 2017 6:43pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I confess that two weeks ago I dared venture as far south as Mercer, to purchase some delicious Dutch gouda from the Mercer Cheese shop.
  
  Ref: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/78361385/mercer-cheese-wins-at-2016-nz-champion-of-cheese-awards-with-mature-aged-cheeses
  
  It’s good cheese!
  
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  May 11, 2017 6:47pm
  - mikenmild
    
    But everyone knows the finest cuisine is to be found in Lower Hutt. Ask any Hollywood star:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11831076
    
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    May 11, 2017 6:52pm
    - Longknives
      
      Not to mention the hysteria over Adele (allegedly) buying a headband in Taihape-
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11848709
      
      Bet that’s in your Scrapbook as well isn’t it Mikey?
      
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      May 11, 2017 7:06pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I’m afraid that my only interest is in culinary reputations, Longknives.
        And in the world champion All Blacks, of course. Looking forward to their three-nil win over the Lions, are you?
        
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        May 11, 2017 7:16pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Too bad she’s pictured on the Petone wharf which is now broken.
      
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      May 11, 2017 8:56pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Knock it down. No need for a wharf there.
        
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        May 11, 2017 9:40pm
Odakyu-sen

mikenmild,

The coffee of Wellington is truly amazing. I experienced “cold-brew coffee” at a cafe in Wellington. The Wellington coffee shops remind me of the ones in Japan. (Where siphon coffee is common.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOiS_WX1l7A
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May 11, 2017 6:58pm
nasska

….”I experienced “cold-brew coffee” at a cafe in Wellington. “….

Translation: The Southerly blew the froth towards Johnsonville & the wind chill snap froze the muck solid in the cup. 🙂
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May 11, 2017 7:05pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  nasska,
  
  Don’t wave that imagination of yours around so much. You’ll poke someone’s eye out.
  
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  May 11, 2017 7:19pm
- mikenmild
  
  Is it okay to call people who go on about ‘cold brew’ and other manifestations of the ‘coffee culture’ wankers, nasska?
  
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  May 11, 2017 7:21pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    mikenmild,
    
    The Wellington coffee shop was one of the Mojo branches. (Seriously good coffee.)
    I hear that they have a branch in Auckland, near the university. I will check it out some time.
    
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    May 11, 2017 7:32pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Mofo?
      What’s their filter coffee like?
      
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      May 11, 2017 7:36pm
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        Milkenmildcoffee,
        
        That’s “Mojo” http://www.mojocoffee.co.nz/locations/wellington/
        
        Not, “Mofo”? (Or is that the Taihape pirated version?)
        
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        May 11, 2017 7:42pm
      - mikenmild
        
        If you can’t get filter coffee and a good piece of ginger crunch or jam slice, it’s not a proper cafe.
        
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        May 11, 2017 7:45pm
  - nasska
    
    Without shadow of doubt Mike.
    
    So long as you can smile while you’re doing it. 🙂
    
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    May 11, 2017 7:32pm
Longknives

Have you ever read such Utter Bullshit???

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11853969

*My father is in a Dementia Home- This drivel is borderline offensive NZ Herald…
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May 11, 2017 7:12pm
- mikenmild
  
  “The literature shows that complicated dance and doing extra study – learning languages – and all of that preserves brain function.”
  What part of that do you disagree with?
  
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  May 11, 2017 7:18pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Pretty much all of it as I am not convinced any discernible brain function was present in the study group to start with.
    
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    May 11, 2017 7:54pm
    - mikenmild
      
      “Results showed there to be no significant differences in the prevalence of dementia between Maori and non-Maori; even despite other lifestyle factors including access to education, socio-economic status and access to healthcare services”.
      And your scientific basis for disagreeing with the conclusion would be?
      
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      May 11, 2017 8:06pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        Speaking strictly scientifically MM as I always do I understand one of the measures used to access the dementia level in the two study groups was the ability to remember certain words.
        Māori scored very highly in recalling words such as koha and taniwha where as Europeans scored very highly in recalling words such as bribery and bullshit so I think the choice of sampling procedure was flawed and gave a skewed outcome.
        This is common with these sorts of studies.
        
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        May 11, 2017 8:17pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Don’t worry. When your doctor reads your comments here and diagnoses dementia, you won’t be forced to perform kapa haka – it’s Morris dancing for you.
        
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        May 11, 2017 8:21pm
    - itstricky
      
      I am not convinced any discernible brain function was present in the study group
      
      And yet Longknives is the one claiming offence taking. Go figure.
      
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      May 11, 2017 8:42pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Snowflakes gotta be flaky…
        
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        May 11, 2017 9:41pm
Manolo

Europe will be unrecognisable within a generation:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4496094/63-000-migrants-came-EU-unaccompanied-minors-2016.html

More than 63,000 migrants who applied for European Union asylum claimed to be unaccompanied minors in 2016.

The figure, released by the EU’s statistical agency, revealed that of the tens of thousands to enter Europe last year, two thirds said they were 16 or 17-year-old men.

More than half of the 63,000 flooding into mainland Europe to flee war in their home nations came from Afghanistan and Syria.
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