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Dafixeruppa

Good morning all. A fine day in the capital today
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May 10, 2017 8:01am
- Biscuit
  
  I like a nice, positive first-up Kiwiblog comment!
  
  A great morning to you, too, Dafix…
  
  Eggs benny and fresh fruit DO that to me.
  
  Hell, I am so happy I will even jump in ahead of my first downticker and say ‘A good morning to YOU, too’, heh heh.
  
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  May 10, 2017 9:10am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Every day above ground is a great day.
  Enjoy this one.
  
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  May 10, 2017 12:09pm
Urban Redneck

From The National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration:

https://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate at Bergen Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.

Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.

Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the Gulf Stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelt which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.

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I must apologize.

I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as
reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post – 94 years ago.

This must have been caused by the Model T Ford’s emissions or possibly from horse and cattle flatulence?
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May 10, 2017 8:02am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I blame John Key and colonisation myself
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:21am
- krazykiwi
  
  Ah the history of alarmism! You’re doomed unless you do what I say. Population control 101.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:21am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  lol – good one.
  
  Gotta keep on pointing out that the loony true believers are loony!
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:36am
  - Dafixeruppa
    
    I prefer Looney Toons… or is that Looney Tunes?
    My favourite is woody woodpecker, I can hear his laugh in my head as I read some of the posts on KB.
    
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    May 10, 2017 12:58pm
Manolo

Democratic Party’s Chicago poised to break crime records: 200 murders so far.
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May 10, 2017 8:02am
- Inandout
  
  ‘Mayor Rahm Emanuel reassured the city’s immigrants that Chicago is and will remain a sanctuary city as president-elect Donald Trump said he will deport millions of people who have criminal records and are in this country illegally. “You are safe in Chicago”.
  
  Nothing to do with being a sanctuary city, oh dear no.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:11am
  - kowtow
    
    Or negroes with illegal firearms .
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:18am
  - kowtow
    
    Sanctuary cities breed serious crime.
    
    “A sanctuary city, pro-immigrant, liberal judge, Lisa Grant (Deval Patrick appointee) gave Teixeira a 364 day sentence so he wouldn’t be deported. Had the judge given him the appropriate sentence it is extremely likely both doctors would still be alive.”
    
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/immigrant-charged-slitting-2-doctors-throats-shooting-police-previous-record-bank-robberies/
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:24am
    - Inandout
      
      Should Judge Lisa Grant be jailed?
      
      http://www.wrko.com/poll/kuhner-report/should-judge-lisa-grant-go-jail
      
      This killer is an animal.
      https://saboteur365.wordpress.com/tag/judge-lisa-a-grant/
      
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      May 10, 2017 8:47am
      - starboard
        
        How could ‘God’ let this happen ?
        
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        May 10, 2017 2:34pm
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Obama groupie – Rahm Emanuel – “you are safe in Chicago”
    
    Oh yes – you are going to be sooooo safe in Homicide Central Chicago.
    
    Natural selection seems to be working well there!
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:39am
Monique Watson

85 Degrees here California-side. Party weather. “Hic”
Fucking lucky I don’t live coastal. Not too far to Half Moon Bay though. Dear say I could pick me off a seal at twenty paces.
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May 10, 2017 8:03am
- holysheet
  
  No wonder you get on the piss in the nude. Still cannot get the thought of you having sex with the kids watching out of my mind. Yuk.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:51am
Paulus

Sounds as though the Chester Borrows case was a typical PC overkill – Senior and Junior Prosecutors ?
This was a minor police matter although from the pictures considerable confusion as to matter actually appears other than protestors throwing themselves in front of the car.
If the women were not making a nuisance of themselves, with cameras on, this would not have occurred. The cameras do not reveal any physical injuries as claimed.
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May 10, 2017 8:06am
- Inandout
  
  And burglary victims wait….
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:12am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Dead right Paulus. Quite why the Police thought they needed Palmerston North’s senior Crown Prosecutor running what was really only a traffic case suggests that strings were being pulled from Police National HQ.
  
  It’s telling that the three officers on the scene all attributed no blame to Borrows and effectively verified his defence. Their reports on the incident were overlooked by someone higher up the chain of command who decided that the Police needed to prosecute. Whether Borrows had got up someone’s nose, or whether the Police wanted to prove they weren’t biased towards one of their own is a moot point, but I strongly suspect the decision to prosecute was made some distance from the Whanganui Police Station.
  
  In any event, Judge Edwards reached the correct decision IMHO.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:17am
  - alex Masterley
    
    I think the police were damned if they did and damned if they didn’t so decided to run with it and let the court give us the (correct) answer.
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:20am
    - Swifty
      
      Yep.
      
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      May 10, 2017 8:30am
- G152
  
  Next time use the accelerator. They want to block access let there be a personal cost
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:19am
- Longknives
  
  A Crown Prosecutor for a Careless Driving matter?
  Borrows should go the Cops-They threw the book at him purely because of his High Profile..
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:24am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    His comment upon leaving the court yesterday was interesting. He said he had been an apologist for the Police for 40 years, but perhaps would not be so much any more.
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:34am
- holysheet
  
  When you look at the video of the incident, what was that useless plod doing on the left side of the car? He should have been pushing the protestors out of the way, or at least holding them back. It looks like a set up to me.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:32am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It was a set-up. One of those Borrows was accused of injuring told the court she had been bent double over the bonnet of the car. The video totally contradicts that. She also described her “horror” at the time, which was so profound that as soon as she stepped away from the car, her first reaction was to shout “Did anyone get that on camera?”.
    
    I won’t hold my breath however waiting for Morrissey to stop by and apologise for his innuendo about Borrows the other day, where he linked this case to the tragic death of a woman hit by a car in Taupo.
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:37am
    - Flash
      
      Whatever happened to ‘mischievous complaint’? That woman (the one with the dyed hair?) did herself and her cause no good service.
      
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      May 10, 2017 10:39am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  So Chester Borrows gets off – with a legal bill and months of stress.
  
  The dishonest lying activist bitches who caused the incident by moving in front of his car and tried to get themselves harmed – are punished how?
  
  This isn’t Justice! If anyone can be detained by SJB’s like this and have to go through this shit when they were going about their business lawfully – then something is terribly wrong.
  
  At the very least their welfare should be stopped and they should be kicked out of their state houses for wasting taxpayer resources.
  
  One can only trust that kharma has a nice little set of suprises awaiting these two oxygen thieves.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:43am
Don the Kiwi

” Not too far to Half Moon Bay though.”

Is that where you expose only one butt cheek – why not a full moonie? 😉
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May 10, 2017 8:07am
All_on_Red

‘U.S., Norwegian, and German scientists report back on the surprising results of an Arctic Ocean research expedition.
The ocean waters near the surface of the Arctic Ocean absorbed 2,000 times more carbon dioxide from the atmosphere than the amount of methane that escaped into the atmosphere from the same waters, according to a study by the USGS Gas Hydrates Project and collaborators in Germany and Norway.’
‘“If what we observed near Svalbard occurs more broadly at similar locations around the world, it could mean that methane seeps have a net cooling effect on climate, not a warming effect as we previously thought,” said USGS biogeochemist John Pohlman, who is the paper’s lead author.’
https://www.usgs.gov/news/ocean-absorption-carbon-dioxide-more-makes-methane-emissions-seafloor-methane-seeps

The effect of this is that the calculations for the Planets ‘Energy Budget’ may have to be done again.
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May 10, 2017 8:13am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh dear, and there are over 1200 laws to control climate change already.
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/may/09/climate-change-laws-exceed-1200-worldwide-finds-lse-study
  
  Don’t tell me that someone will have to redraft all this legislation.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:56am
  - Ross12
    
    So the NZ dairy industry is off the hook !
    
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    May 10, 2017 9:23am
    - waikatosinger
      
      Only if we can get the cows to fart in the ocean. It is an ocean fertilisation effect.
      
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      May 10, 2017 12:32pm
- cmm
  
  “The effect of this is that the calculations for the Planets ‘Energy Budget’ may have to be done again.”
  
  ie. Fill up the trough again.
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:17am
Monique Watson

@Don: Scares away the seals. You gotta wait ’till you’ve dug the hangi pit before you get neked.
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May 10, 2017 8:14am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  😆
  
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  May 10, 2017 12:48pm
krazykiwi

A government that has loaded energy production with all sorts of ‘green’ costs is about to regulate the end user price.

Cuba? Venezuela?

Nope. The UK.

Pathetic stuff from the UK conservatives.
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May 10, 2017 8:14am
- krazykiwi
  
  Order-Order gathers some quotes on this:
  
  Theresa May’s interventionist energy price cap has whacked share prices this morning: Centrica is trading at the lowest level for 15 months. The wonk world is savaging the policy
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  [various quotes, press releases]
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  Don’t buy the Tory spin, this is the same sort of market intervention that caused the Tories to claim PM Miliband would lead Britain into a Venezuelan dystopia.
  
  This type of market manipulation is exactly what underpins Venezuela’s demise. It’s madness.
  
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  May 10, 2017 12:05pm
Happychappy

You would think the Journalist on Three were taking lessons from not so Bright Penny with some of the crap they spout on the News. Paddy Gower needs to go back to school and learn what are the basics of Journalism after his disgraceful comments last night on the six a clock Three News.
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May 10, 2017 8:15am
- krazykiwi
  
  I want to know who supplies the unripe lemons Paddy obviously sucks before going on camera.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:23am
  - 4077th
    
    That would be Lisa Owen.
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:36am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Rabid red this morning reporting a 5 centimetre deep cut on a pupils throat during a production of Sweeny Todd
  
  5 millimetres is a decent cut and 5 cms is almost a decapitation
  
  Trained and professional but as dumb Goofy on a good day
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:29am
- KevOB
  
  We switched to 3 to see if we could avoid the enforced viewing of the US majors on TV1 while they had their nightly Trump hatefest. That is the NZ Govt channel.
  TV3 lost that chance: Paddy Gower’s sour face did them in. That channel is one for the kiddies.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:59am
Southern Raider

Herald must have been watching Kiwi blog with their main article about Venezuela

But no mention of real cause of the collapse
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May 10, 2017 8:15am
- Longknives
  
  I particularly enjoyed that they tried to blame ‘Capitalism’..
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:27am
Urban Redneck

Despite court rulings the Trump administration is quietly turning off the faucet:

The United States resettled 3,316 refugees from foreign countries last month, an increase over March but still far less than the 8,112 monthly average for the first four months of the fiscal year, according to statistics released Friday.

What’s more, April continued a long downward trend in resettlements from war-torn Syria. From October through January, an average of 1,221 Syrians came each month. In February, President Donald Trump’s first full month in office, the United States accepted 673 Syrian refugees. That number dropped to 282 in March and 226 in April.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/refugee-resettlements-plummet-trump/

HT: Crusader Rabbit
http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/
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May 10, 2017 8:18am
john1234

Australia turning into Oceania’s own little Venezuela?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11852819

You know they’re in the toilet when they take the easy out of strong-arming private business instead of swallowing the pill of cutting costs and living within their means.

Meanwhile Venezuela itself teeters on the edge of the abyss.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11852477

Take a country that should be one of the richest in the world, apply socialism and this is what you get.
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May 10, 2017 8:26am
Monique Watson

Would you look at those cunts on NZ Herald leading with a story on how DOC has been given permission to harrass and kill Kaikoura seals.
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May 10, 2017 8:28am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Language Timothy
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:31am
  - Kimbo
    
    Quite right! Only one ‘r’ in “harass”. Can’t have the holysheet-school-of-wilful-and-capricious-spelling take root around here.
    
    On a bright note, Monique Watson didn’t use adverbs unnecessarily and excessively.
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:59am
  - Biscuit
    
    Agreed, Paulus.
    
    Use of the expletive ‘NZ H*rald’ should be banned in here!
    
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    May 10, 2017 9:12am
    - VicParking
      
      “Failing Newspaper” please that way everybody will know what paper you are talking about.
      
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      May 10, 2017 10:52am
- Dafixeruppa
  
  Wasn’t it DoC giving permission to the clean up crews to harass and kill the seals, rather than DoC being given permission to harass and kill?
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:51am
Urban Redneck

The day when assholes such as this are told to fuck off can’t come soon enough . . . Recall that UN report a few years back suggesting that the world will have to start eating bugs as it’s chief source of protein.

The amount of cows, Obama explained, were contributing to global pollution, alluding to the amounts of methane gas emissions from cow herds.

“No matter what, we are going to see an increase in meat consumption,” Obama said, pointing to developing economies in China, India, Indonesia, and Vietnam. More advanced countries, Obama said, would have to teach people to “have a smaller steak” and explore reductions to their meat consumption.

“What it does mean is that we’re also going to have to find ways to produce protein in a more efficient way,” he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/09/barack-obama-eating-more-steaks-contributes-to-climate-change/
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May 10, 2017 8:29am
- All_on_Red
  
  I love how to get to the venue for his speech, he had a 14 car caravan!
  #DoAsI Say
  
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  May 10, 2017 9:34am
Happychappy

Andrew Little may rue the day he talked Willie Jackson into joining Labour. Another Maori MP has come out supporting Jackson on Charter Schools so the cracks of dissent have started to open and poor old Andrew Little has his second storm with Maori on the horizon.
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May 10, 2017 8:30am
- RF
  
  What does the obese green slug think of charter schools. Would be interesting if they disagreed with Angry.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:35am
- holysheet
  
  oh goody, the more the merrier.
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:35am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Peeni Henare’s support of Partnership Schools is nothing new. He and Kelvin Davis had a stand-off with Little in 2015:
  
  Two Labour MPs made an error of judgment in attending a fundraiser for a trust which has established a charter school, party leader Andrew Little says.
  
  Labour MP for Tāmaki-Makaurau Peeni Henare and his colleague, Kelvin Davis, attended a fundraiser for the He Puna Marama Trust, which has set up a charter school in Whangarei.
  
  The party has been vehemently opposed to the formation of charter schools and pledged to scrap them if it won the last election.
  
  Mr Davis told 3News at the fundraiser that Mr Little did not want the Labour MPs to attend the event.
  
  Mr Henare told Radio New Zealand he knew all the people involved in both the trust and the kura itself, including the students.
  
  “I support that particular charter school, and the reason I do that is that I’ve seen kaupapa grow from the fetal stages all the way to what they have today and I’ve seen the outcomes they’ve achieved and that’s I why I support that particular kaupapa.”
  
  The Education Review Office’s report on the kura, released in February, found it had made a good start providing education for young Maori, and that senior students were making pleasing progress.
  
  Party leader Andrew Little told Morning Report today he was confident the MPs’ misjudgment would not be repeated.
  
  “We’ve had a pretty strong campaign against charter schools. It’s not a model that we favour, we don’t think its a good model for addressing Maori underperformance in education and having them would send, or has the potential to send, a conflicting signal.”
  
  Mr Little said he had told the MPs his preference was for them not to go, but they felt they had local considerations to take into account.
  
  “I understand the reasons why they went, I don’t think they understood how it would look or the potential consequences of them going. They are now aware of that.” It was most unlikely they would go to any more fundraisers, he said.
  
  He said all Labour MPs subscribed to party policy, which is to abolish charter schools.
  
  Mr Henare said yesterday that how the policy played out remained to be seen.
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/282927/labour-mps-told-to-toe-the-line-on-charter-schools
  
  I’ve highlighted the last comment from Mr Henare, because we are starting to see now exactly how Labour’s opposition to Partnership Schools is playing out.
  
  Labour’s Maori caucus is already miffed with Little on several counts; that he shoulder-tapped Willie Jackson to be Minister of Maori Development if Labour is elected, that they are not allocated places on Labour’s list so have no safety net if they lose their electorates, and Little’s falling out with the Maori king. Labour’s continued opposition to Partnership Schools, and their promise to shut them down does not sit well with the likes of Jackson, Henare and Davis, and is another flash point.
  
  Little’s political management is being called into question pretty much daily now. He had a train-wreck interview yesterday on Radio NZ where he repeatedly refused to answer a simple question on Partnership Schools, and last week’s debacle about the list still hangs over him.
  
  In one month and 13 days time (i.e. within three months of the election), his MP’s can unseat him without the leadership vote having to go to the party and the unions. Will they be sufficiently brave?
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:52am
  - 4077th
    
    None of them have the spine and to be frank, it is a hospital pass of enormous proportions. Jacindarella does not need a failure on her CV so the next most likely will be Robbo. Neither want the poison chalice I suspect.
    
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    May 10, 2017 9:05am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I suspect you’re right 4077th. Mike Moore took one for the team in 1990, but one thing Labour doesn’t have in 2017 is anyone remotely like Mike Moore.
      
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      May 10, 2017 9:07am
      - 4077th
        
        Alternatively, the Willy Jackoff situation could easily become a means of fitting up Little similar to the knifing of Shearer and silent T. Willy may have a bit more power than Angry expected as well as the ear of Davis who is a rising “star”. IF anything were to transpire, Willy would be the catalyst IMHO.
        
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        May 10, 2017 9:25am
      - sooty
        
        Willy for Labour Leader!
        
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        May 10, 2017 7:10pm
dime

geez, our media are pushing the new first lady of france hard core.

she looked better as a brunette

http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/planet-of-the-apes-2001/planetapes2001helena.jpg
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May 10, 2017 8:33am
- Longknives
  
  Yeah did you read this gushing drivel?
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/92325650/frances-michelle-obama-brigitte-macrons-new-role-as-french-first-lady
  
  No mention of the fact that she preyed sexually upon a 15 year old child? Just imagine the howling and wailing if Macron was perceived as a ‘Right Wing’ Candidate…
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:43am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Yes well, Leftists (and we can have no doubt that as a high flyer in the execrable Hollande’s government Macron is a Leftist) have this thing about pizza and pedophilia – how can we be surprised.
    
    I wonder if she asked the infant Macron to grab her chatte?
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:47am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Nah – she grabbed his……Pussy? nah ..Pene !!
      
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      May 10, 2017 5:51pm
- 4077th
  
  She is not what I would consider a GILF.
  
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  May 10, 2017 9:06am
Monique Watson

Yeah totally my bad re mispelling of harass. Duly noted. Still drunk and unclothed in California. Occupational hazard. Carnitas for dinner; not seal.
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May 10, 2017 9:05am
- Kimbo
  
  So no change in the situation from our correspondent in the Sunshine State? Did dad4justice make it to your party? If so, intoxication-induced errors, including spelling are as expected.
  
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  May 10, 2017 9:17am
  - Longknives
    
    You coming to Monique’s shindig Kimbo? We could talk cricket for hours…
    *I’ll definitely be clothed- Don’t worry..
    
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    May 10, 2017 9:21am
    - Kimbo
      
      Regrettably (justified adverb) it clashes with another entry in my busy social calendar – drinkies with Chuck Bird and his mates at the Delta in Ngaruawahia. I know, you weigh them up on the scales:
      
      “Ngaruawahia…California…Ngaruawahia…California”,
      
      …but a prior engagement is a prior engagement. So Ngaruawahia-
      sur-la-Rivière it is 😉
      
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      May 10, 2017 9:26am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Kimbo, we should have our debate from yesterday’s thread her. I quote you below.
        
        Check the details, Chuck. This case was discussed yesterday in General Debate – she was jailbait who approached him for sex, and he was unaware of her age. Doesn’t make what he did right, but “preyed upon an underage girl” does not fit the circumstances.
        
        Firstly, show us where it is stated that the 13 year old approached the low life for sex.
        
        It sounds to be like you are blaming a 13 year old victim.
        
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        May 10, 2017 9:48am
      - Kimbo
        
        No, let’s have it on yesterday’s thread…as what you have suggested has already been discussed there.
        
        Also, what have I told you about demanding answers to “have you stopped beating your wife” interrogations?
        
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        May 10, 2017 9:53am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Kimbo, If some pedophile sympathizer whats to defend a peadophile I will ask questions if I like especially if you like to make things up.
        
        You started the attack this morning.
        
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        May 10, 2017 10:00am
      - Kimbo
        
        You interpret “check the details” as an “attack”? My, things are going be interesting at the Delta, aren’t they? Monique’s soiree with me and Longknives talking cricket in the corner (guys in one room, girls in another? Must be a Kiwi party!) is looking more appealing by the minute.
        
        Now, kindly (unnecessary adverb but added for courtesy) take it over to the thread where I replied, or where it was discussed yesterday…
        
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        May 10, 2017 10:06am
Manolo

The incompetent messiah doing his bit for AGW:
http://climatechangedispatch.com

Obama arrived in Italy by private jet yesterday with a 14-car convoy in tow. He took over two floors of the Park Hyatt – at $10K a night – and will give a climate change speech to a sold-out concert.
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May 10, 2017 9:43am
- 4077th
  
  “Sold Out” being the operative words!
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:10am
- cmm
  
  … and he won’t get the hypocrisy because leftie jets emit flowers and moonbeams.
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:15am
- KevOB
  
  Who is funding that incompetent clown Obama. In past times a former rival would have been executed pronto if he had been seen to be any higher than a worm.
  
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  May 10, 2017 1:08pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Soros.
    
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    May 10, 2017 5:54pm
Manolo

Comey, you are fired:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_APNEWSALERT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-05-09-17-44-08

White House announces President Donald Trump has fired FBI Director James Comey.
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May 10, 2017 9:48am
flipper

yes Manolo….
That must have been on the cards ever since he laid out a water tight case for charging Clinton over her email server…..and then announced that he would not charge her.

When that is mixed in with all the other matters, befiure and since, (such as W. Clinton’s would be secret meeting with Lynch in Phoenix) and so on…….
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May 10, 2017 10:01am
Longknives

For a Race/Culture that are always banging on about what ‘Tough Guys’ and ‘Warriors’ they are- Maori sure are a precious wee bunch about Hakas and the like..

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11852901

Every day there is a new ‘Outrage’…It is becoming rather tiresome.
As I said the other day- Can you imagine a Scotsman in a kilt jumping up and down and shrieking with outrage over a can of ‘Highlander’ Condensed Milk at the Supermarket?
That would be pretty silly now wouldn’t it?
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May 10, 2017 10:07am
- GoVege
  
  LK: if you moan enough you might get your gripe in the paper…and some compo on the way.
  Beats working for a living
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  May 10, 2017 11:18am
- Postitrote
  
  It looks like the Herald scraping social media again in search of page fillers. Hence quotes from folks like “Yannick Steinschek” and “Harriet Myles” who are likely about as Maori as my adidas sneakers.
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:58am
Morrissey

Fat Bloke is way, way out of his depth

https://thestandard.org.nz/brownlee-admits-hes-struggling/
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May 10, 2017 10:10am
- 4077th
  
  I would rather stab myself in the eye with a blunt fork than force my computer to visit that vile cesspit.
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:13am
  - Morrissey
    
    Yes indeed, ignorance is bliss, is it not?
    
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    May 10, 2017 10:20am
    - All_on_Red
      
      We bow to your superior experience at being ignorant
      
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      May 10, 2017 11:19am
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , these rich irony alerts are becoming rather tedious .
        
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        May 10, 2017 11:26am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Crikey; Morrissey fair walked into that cyber equivalent of a left hook!
        
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        May 10, 2017 1:13pm
    - 4077th
      
      My statement is based on experience so, your argument is void.
      
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      May 10, 2017 11:22am
      - Morrissey
        
        I’m intrigued, 4077th: Could you provide us with a bit more detail about when you stabbed yourself in the eye with a blunt fork?
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJ0iGZ7Ms8
        
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        May 10, 2017 6:56pm
  - RalphT
    
    I don’t know, you have to take your laughs wherever you can find them.
    
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    May 10, 2017 10:20am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Oh you’re here Morris Dancer.
  So what did you have to say about the Chester Borrows aquittal?
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:20am
  - Morrissey
    
    Good morning Cap’n! Re the Chester Borrows acquittal: well, unlike him, I respect the law and humbly accept the verdict.
    
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    May 10, 2017 10:29am
- Garbageman
  
  Good attempt at trying to get the numbers up over at the Stantard Morrissey that shithole is now nothing more than about 10 people bitching at each other like a bunch of old women although I would say they are a good representation of the Labour & the left in general they should rename that hole to The identities Politics blog complete with some bloke with a chicks name that bans for any vague variation from the party line
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:59am
  - Morrissey
    
    Indeed, Garbageman, it is getting extremely censorious there. People are getting summarily hauled out of one thread and dumped in another for violating protocol. Usually accompanied by an angry bold type dressing down. As happened to poor old Gosman the other day…
    
    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-08052017/#comment-1327371
    
    It’s happened to me too, on several occasions, which prompted me to address the issue a few years ago….
    
    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-04082013/#comment-674390
    
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    May 10, 2017 7:03pm
dime

see ya asshole

“President Donald Trump fired FBI Director James Comey on Tuesday, according to a statement from the White House.”
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May 10, 2017 10:15am
DifferentPerspective

Trump fires the buffoon Comey

Draining the swamp!

Awesome, only 20,000 other dishonest Obama appointees to get rid of!

And now maybe they can get on with putting Hillary where she belongs – in an orange pantsuit.
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May 10, 2017 10:17am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Of course, now the Democrats will be objecting to this too (even though Hillary has just come out and blamed Comey for her loss).
  
  Libtards! They’re just against everything, all the time, regardless!
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:41am
  - cha
    
    Desperate.
    
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_a0tz1UAAAArr-.jpg
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre
    
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    May 10, 2017 10:44am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Told you the libtards would object to getting what they wanted 🙂
      
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      May 10, 2017 10:47am
Maggy Wassilieff

Big Baby born in Wellington
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/baby/92399491/baby-weighing-16-pounds-born-in-wellington-hospital

(Hoss Cartwright – Bonanza was 14lb at birth)
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May 10, 2017 10:17am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Ouch!
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:24am
- Flash
  
  I hope she doesn’t have any more kids – they tend to get bigger each time. But I can only think how much she must have eaten for the baby to have grown so big –
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:55am
- MCos
  
  “People are calling him the next Jonah Lomu, but we think he’ll be a concert pianist,” the father said.
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:50am
dime

good ole buffet. likes to be in line with whoever is president

“So free trade is wonderful for the world and for the United States, but its benefits are diffused among 320 million people. You buy your bananas cheaper because we don’t try and produce them in the United States. But the penalties from free trade are terrible to specific industries. And as an investor, I can own – make a dumb decision on owning a shoe company. But if I own a good insurance company, I can diversify away the problems. If you’re a 55-year-old steelworker, you can’t diversify away your talents. I mean, you had it if steel or textiles or shoes become subject to total, it all moves offshore. So you want to have free trade, but you also have to take care of the people who, through no fault of their own, have spent their life learning one profession. And you can talk about retraining and all that, but it just isn’t practical. “
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May 10, 2017 10:26am
- MCos
  
  He also said America has a great health system. You can spend a million dollars & extend your life by six months in a coma.
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:55am
Manolo

Meanwhile, and defying tradition, the former POTUS refuses to stay silent:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_OBAMA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-05-09-03-49-33

After dropping out of sight for a pair of glamorous island getaways, Obama is emerging for a series of paid and unpaid speeches, drawing sharp contrasts with Trump even as he avoids saying the new president’s name.

He’s wielding his influence overseas, offering his support for some of the international political candidates who are clamoring for his endorsement.
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May 10, 2017 10:29am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, with a clown like Trump its impossible to remain silent.
  
  You must know that.
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:28am
  - Manolo
    
    Who am I to stop you loving Obama to bits? He deserves your adoration.
    
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    May 10, 2017 12:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Moon Jae-In new President for S.Korea.

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170509000505

He’ll probably reopen the S.Korean businesses/factories operating in N. Korea.
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May 10, 2017 10:36am
cmm

MPs can’t afford to own a house….

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/92409879/house-prices-draw-mps-criticism

Dude, If you can’t afford to buy a house on an MP’s salary then you’re really, really, shit at budgeting and you should not be anywhere near a job where you have to oversee public funds.

ie. You should not be an MP!
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May 10, 2017 10:43am
- VicParking
  
  Problems is the job is only for three years. Then everyone will see how shit useless he is and he will be unemployable
  
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  May 10, 2017 10:59am
  - jonar
    
    ACT leader David Seymour and Green party co-leader James Shaw didn’t own homes, telling RNZ they couldn’t afford to buy a house right now.
    
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    May 10, 2017 11:39am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Shaw and Seymour need to go and have a chat with Sue Moroney. After four terms in Parliament, she’s managed to get enough cash together for a family home and rental property in Waikato, a holiday home in Coromandel and an apartment in Wellington.
      
      I’m sure Moroney would be only too happy to share her secrets with her fellow MP’s given that she is soon to retire. And I’m surprised Metiria Turei hasn’t offered Shaw some advice either, given that she owns both a house and a castle in Dunedin!
      
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      May 10, 2017 12:15pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    How many years did it take us to figure out that Mallard was useless or was he always just shit?
    
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    May 10, 2017 11:59am
- Peter
  
  Isn’t Shaw their “smart business guy”?
  
  Yet reportedly can’t figure out a way to afford a house?
  On an MPs salary? And having had years of salary in other occupations?
  
  WTF?
  
  Same goes for ACT
  
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  May 10, 2017 3:53pm
chiz

The Trailer for Blade Runner 2049 is out.
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May 10, 2017 10:45am
- Lance
  
  Lets hope it makes up for monumental let down that was Prometheus.
  Looks promising, so here’s hoping.
  
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  May 10, 2017 2:25pm
Jack5

A farmer’s view about State-owned Landcorp selling a large southern farming property to overseas investors.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/opinion/92408484/why-is-landcorp-selling-a-farm-to-overseas-buyers
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May 10, 2017 11:01am
- Dafixeruppa
  
  I guess the down tick is because it was a farmer commenting? If it had been an urbanite making the same comments, it would have received up ticks.
  There are some days that I do not understand the minds of the people that are on here.
  
  Ok, now waiting for someone to comment and ask if that means that some days I do understand them…
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:43am
backster

That German Haka was an improvement on those we see at Eden Park.
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May 10, 2017 11:20am
krazykiwi

Trump: Comey, you’re fired!

Donald Trump last night fired James Comey, the FBI director, over his handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails.

The US president said in a letter to Mr Comey that he was “not able to effectively lead the bureau”.

The Trump campaign is currently being investigated by the FBI over allegations that it colluded with Russia to influence the outcome of the election.

“While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau,” Mr Trump said.

“It is essential that we find new leadership for the FBI that restores public trust and confidence in its vital law enforcement mission.”
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May 10, 2017 11:27am
- stephieboy
  
  krazykiwi, read my post ( 11.35am) for the bigger picture rather than Trumps’ glib rant .
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:53am
Swifty

The latest on Citizen Liu.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11835412

This man was dirty from the moment he first stepped off the plane.

One can only speculate as to why Labour politicians thought it appropriate to cuddle him so closely – overriding immigration officer and Interpol concerns, and even to the point of holding his citizenship ceremony on parliament grounds.

I’ll certainly never look at Dover Samuels the same way again.
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May 10, 2017 11:27am
- krazykiwi
  
  An odd home detention provisions:
  
  In order to allow Yan to work, Judge Rob Ronayne granted him permission to leave the apartment for meetings during weekdays, for up to five hours each day, but only with the approval of his probation officer.
  
  The judge flatly denied a request for Yan to use the gymnasium in the Auckland hotel complex where he lives
  
  So he can go out… but not use the in-building gym. Strange.
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:34am
- 4077th
  
  You beat me to it. 17 years this has been going on. He has managed to buy his way out of jail here and in China. Home D in his penthouse but allowed out for “meetings”. FFS this clown should have been gone years ago. It must grind the cops gears that he helped Fatty Dot Crim fund his legal problems.
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:49am
- kowtow
  
  Reading that Herald story , this whole thing is as dodgy as fuck.
  
  Obviously some very big deals were done for this guy to have gone back to China and then back here again.
  
  Also the story talks of unusual summary of facts that this guy PG to.
  
  And we like to pretend that justice in this democracy is an open , free and fair affair.
  
  Equality before the law ? Not if you’re an extremely rich and well connected person.
  
  Stinks to high heaven.
  
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  May 10, 2017 12:38pm
stephieboy

Comey out after just four years – the full picture

Gary O’Donoghue

FBI directors are given a ten year term – and James Comey has been fired after less than four.
In a letter to Mr Comey, Donald Trump said “It is essential that we find new leadership for the FBI that restores public trust and confidence in its vital law enforcement mission”, going on to say, “you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau.”
Separate documents released by the White House curiously point to James Comey’s handling of Hillary Clinton’s email server problems during the campaign – something Democrats see as having benefited Mr Trump’s candidacy.
In particular, the documents describe Mr Comey’s decision to hold a press conference last July, announcing Mrs Clinton had been “extremely careless in her handling of very classified information” as a text book example of how what federal prosecutors should not do.
But later in the campaign, Mr Trump praised the director for announcing a fresh probe into Mrs Clinton, only ten days before election day.
What hangs over all this is the fact that the FBI is currently investigating the Trump campaign over possible coordination with Russia during the election – and many of his opponents will find that conflict impossible to ignore.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-39866259

Tsk,tsk, tsk all Trumpists !
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May 10, 2017 11:35am
- Fletch
  
  Trump basically had to fire him after the testimony Comey gave the other day when he stated that Huma Abedin had forwarded thousands of emails of Hillary’s to hubby Anthony Weiner’s account when it turned out it was only a handful and the FBI had to send round a 2-page letter to Congressmen walking back what he had said.
  
  Update, May 9, 2017: On Tuesday, the FBI sent a letter to Congress correcting inaccurate congressional testimony by Director James Comey, six days after he mischaracterized what the FBI discovered on Anthony Weiner’s laptop. The bureau addressed the matter in a two-page letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee from its congressional liaison, explaining that it was “intended to supplement” Comey’s testimony, by providing “the full context of what was reviewed and found on the laptop.”
  
  In it, the FBI acknowledged that only a “small number” of more than 49,000 “potential relevant” emails found on Weiner’s laptop had been forwarded from Clinton deputy Huma Abedin to Weiner, her husband, not hundreds or thousands as Comey had stated. The FBI said just two of those messages contained classified information.
  
  https://www.propublica.org/article/comeys-testimony-on-huma-abedin-forwarding-emails-was-inaccurate
  
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  May 10, 2017 12:13pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch , this is the salient matter,
    
    “What hangs over all this is the fact that the FBI is currently investigating the Trump campaign over possible coordination with Russia during the election – and many of his opponents will find that conflict impossible to ignore.”
    
    You will no doubt agree that the President needs to appoint a special prosecutor to look into the issue of his possible collaboration with the Kremlin ?
    
    Agreed ?
    
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    May 10, 2017 1:08pm
    - Ross12
      
      How long does it have to go on stephieboy? It has been 8-9 months and they haven’t come up with anything. As I’ve said plenty of times , if there was even the slightest piece of evidence it would have been headlines in the W.Post months ago.
      The Democrats are hanging onto it as they have nothing else to hang onto.
      
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      May 10, 2017 1:30pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        In evidence to Congress yesterday ex DNI Clapper confirmed once again there is no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia.
        Of course this has been pointed out to Stephie idiot many times but because he’s KBs Dumbest Commentator it hasn’t sunk in yet.
        
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        May 10, 2017 1:40pm
      - Fletch
        
        Agreed. There is not the slightest skerrick of evidence of any wrongdoing. But Russia is the big, bad bogeyman at the moment. Even people like Sen. Dianne Feinstein, when asked by Wolf Blitzer, agree that there is no evidence.
        
        Sen. Dianne Feinstein confirmed this fact with Wolf Blitzer at CNN on Wednesday. He asked about Feinstein and other senators being briefed on the Senate Intelligence Committee’s investigation into this matter at the CIA headquarters.
        
        “You don’t have to provide us with any classified information, Senator,” Blitzer began. “But do you believe — do you have evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump associates and Russia during the campaign?”
        
        “Not at this time,” Feinstein relented.
        
        Blitzer noted her “pretty precise answer.”
        
        James Clapper just said the same thing –
        
        http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-clapper-no-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597
        
        But it’s the only thing the lefties have to attack Trump with at the moment.
        
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        May 10, 2017 2:18pm
- Ross12
  
  Comey did not have a very good history of sound management during his time at the FIB, so it was only a matter of time.
  
  https://news.grabien.com/story-10-major-fbi-scandals-comeys-watch
  
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  May 10, 2017 12:28pm
  - Inandout
    
    Now he must start and isolate those rogue Dem judges who allow illegals to stay in the US to murder citizens. The delicious irony would be if a member of a rogue judge’s family got attacked by an illegal; chances are it will happen.
    
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    May 10, 2017 1:10pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Ross12 , I bet you weren’t concerned about this with Comey ‘s revelations regarding the Hillary Clinton emails prior to the election.
    
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    May 10, 2017 1:10pm
    - Ross12
      
      Yes I was stephieboy. He should have come out and been totally transparent, but his hands were probably tied by his boss AG Lynch
      
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      May 10, 2017 1:26pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Actually what we are all concerned about is how you are now telling us how you are leering at Asian women at the Mall. Not to mention your fat shaming.
      You’re behaviour is pretty creepy don’t you think?
      POS.
      
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      May 10, 2017 1:47pm
      - mikenmild
        
        You think the FBI should be investigating stephieboy?
        Or are you just trolling?
        
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        May 10, 2017 2:03pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Comey should be sacked for not investigating Stephie!
        Oh wait…
        
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        May 10, 2017 5:03pm
Swifty

Blatant standover and thuggery.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11852951

Combined with the other bashings (train guy) and robberies (butcher guy etc) in Northland recently clearly things need to change.

No-one in this country is forced to rob, bash and steal. Help is there if you ask for it.

Time to get tougher. These people, if they cannot or will not desist, must be removed from our streets.
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May 10, 2017 11:35am
- Inandout
  
  First of all tourists should be actively discouraged from visiting Northland on the grounds it is a war zone. That will leave the locals to sort out their problems and not affect our tourism numbers.
  
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  May 10, 2017 1:14pm
ex-golfer

David Seymour and James Shaw blame fellow MPs for their inability to afford their own homes?
It actually says more about the financial acumen (lack of it) of the complainants to me.
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May 10, 2017 11:47am
- 4077th
  
  I wouldn’t have thought James Shaw would aspire to such things.. A mud hut, mung beans and sunflower seeds is all he should need right?
  
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  May 10, 2017 11:51am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And some nettles to beat himself with so to feel completely virtuous and holier than thou
    
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    May 10, 2017 12:04pm
Longknives

Why are Tourists not warned to stay away from the Far North??
From personal experience Tourists to Africa and South America are told in no uncertain terms where it’s safe to go and where you stay the hell away from! Shouldn’t we be doing that here?
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11852951
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May 10, 2017 12:24pm
- cmm
  
  Sure, Far North is bad compared to the rest of NZ, but it is OTT to compare it with Africa.
  
  The most dangerous parts of Far North are still safer than anywhere in Africa.
  
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  May 10, 2017 12:40pm
  - Longknives
    
    I wasn’t comparing them cmm- Just wondering at what stage we take responsibility and start warning our tourists away from the shithole that is Northland?? So many have been vicously assaulted/ robbed up that way in recent years..
    They are clearly being targeted.
    
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    May 10, 2017 12:55pm
  - mikenmild
    
    When crime in Northland represents the sort of danger posed to travellers in Egypt, say, or Ethiopia, a warning would be appropriate.
    That’s not going to happen though, is it?
    
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    May 10, 2017 2:09pm
    - Jack5
      
      Gangs demanding money from tourists.
      
      There have even been cases of tourists being assaulted and robbed.
      
      Of course there should be a warning: You are entering feral territory, you are warned to stay out unless you have a firearm or two attack-trained pitbulls.
      
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      May 10, 2017 2:21pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Would you be too scared to travel in Northland? You’re probably at higher risk walking your own street after dark.
        
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        May 10, 2017 2:23pm
    - Longknives
      
      Have you ever been a Victim of Crime Mikenmild?
      *I note you seem to have no Empathy whatsoever to people who have…
      
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      May 10, 2017 4:23pm
      - starboard
        
        mm lives in a bubble. Never goes out, has dinner prepared for him at 5.30 every night by his mum, milo for supper then off to bed. Gets up in the morn..fed and on the train for work-8-5 mon-fri. MM is never in a position to be exposed to crime. The only crime here is that he still lives at home with his mum .
        
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Fletch

Oh good grief, now people are getting their panties in a wad about the Haka being “culturally appropriated” in a German ad. Big deal.. It’s not copyrighted. Get over yourselves.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11852901

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93ETx9QFd18
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May 10, 2017 12:30pm
- cmm
  
  Big White Guilt Button. Whack it and money comes out!
  
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  May 10, 2017 12:41pm
Hugh Pavletich

GREATER CHRISTCHURCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING LESSON … BUILD MORE ! …

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/05/macro-afternoon-189/#comment-2865961

… Abolish urban limits and bond finance infrastructure … ask the New Zealand political parties …read on …

The rental housing market slowed in April as it headed towards winter but rents remained at or near record highs in many areas | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/87567/rental-housing-market-slowed-april-it-headed-towards-winter-rents-remained-or-near

Christchurch bucks trend in Demographia housing affordability survey – Business – NZ Herald News

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11787125

… Economist Rodney Dickens Auckland Housing Failure Report …

http://www.sra.co.nz/pdf/AucklandNewHouseCostsMay17.pdf

New Zealand Labour Party Spokesperson Phil Twyford responds …

Phil Twyford – New Zealand Labour Party

http://www.labour.org.nz/philtwyford

Analyst charts failure of National’s housing policy | Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1705/S00098/analyst-charts-failure-of-nationals-housing-policy.htm

… concluding …

… “Mr Dickens shows since the signing of the Auckland Housing Accord in 2013 the housing crisis has got worse on every indicator: house prices are up 45 per cent, land prices up 52 per cent, and building costs up 36 per cent.

“He says runaway housing costs mean ‘10 steps have been taken backwards in terms of improving Auckland housing affordability before any progress has been made…’

“The Special Housing Areas were National’s flagship housing policy. They utterly failed to significantly increase the supply of housing. Auckland is still building 5000 fewer homes each year than it needs, and a shortfall of 40,000 homes has built up on National’s watch.

“No wonder Rodney Dickens says he is sceptical of how much and how quickly National’s policies will improve Auckland housing affordability.

“Luckily, help is on the way. Mr Dickens says Labour’s proposal to scrap the urban limit and debt fund infrastructure for new greenfield and brownfield residential developments potentially offers much more hope of significantly improving Auckland housing affordability.

“Labour will build 100,000 affordable homes for first home buyers, tax speculators, ban foreign buyers, reform the planning rules, and build state houses instead of selling them off,” says Phil Twyford.
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May 10, 2017 12:56pm
Hugh Pavletich

“Boomerang Kids”: Adult Millennials Returning Home Is Crushing Baby Boomer Budgets … Zerohedge

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-08/boomerang-kids-adult-millennials-returning-home-taking-and-economic-toll-baby-boomer

We’ve noted several times in recent months that, despite the ‘economic recovery’, a record number of young ‘adults’ are moving back home with mom and dad after college and staying there well into their 30’s.

Now, as confirmed by a recent study conducted by Fidelity and the Stanford Center on Longevity, the added stress of caring for all those ‘adult’ children is putting a severe emotional and financial strain on Baby Boomers with over 75% saying their adult children are cutting into their budgets and over 50% saying they’re generally less happy about life. Per Fidelity: … read more via hyperlink above …

Australia’s housing affordability crisis creating ‘dependent generation’ – study | Australia news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/may/08/australias-housing-affordability-crisis-creating-dependent-generation-study

Unaffordable housing has led to an “increasingly dependent generation” of young people, a new study has found, with many Australians resigned to living with their parents for longer as they save for a deposit.

The Perceptions of Housing Affordability report by property data analysts Core Logic found almost two-thirds (62%) of respondents who were living with their parents said they did so because they could not afford to move out…. Read more via hyperlink above …

Housing affordability: 87% of Australians fear for future generations | Australia news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/may/07/housing-affordability-87-of-australians-fear-for-future-generations

About 87% of Australians believe future generations will not be able to afford to buy a home, a new poll shows.

The poll, conducted by the Australian National University, has also found younger Australians see home ownership as less a part of Australian life than their elders. … read more via hyperlink above …
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May 10, 2017 12:58pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Oh spare us Hugh, it’s bloody tedious.
  
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  May 10, 2017 4:33pm
rightoverlabour

I love the left who castigate National on everything they do, including of course this:

Government surplus of $1.5 billion well ahead of expectations

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/92417603/surplus-track-jumps-to-15-billion-as-government-prepares-may-25-budget

come on in ztev….
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May 10, 2017 1:51pm
- mikenmild
  
  Excellent scope for the budget to promise a massive spend up on everything Bill English can think of. He can then criticise Labour as irresponsible if they promise even $1 more than that.
  
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  May 10, 2017 2:19pm
Jack5

The Immigration and Protection Tribunal has again shown its liberal stance.

NZ mental services are pressed beyond the limit, with insufficient beds. However, the tribunal has allowed a Chinese-national criminal with mental illness, and held in a secure unit at an NZ psychiatric hospital, to avoid deportation.

Guan Zhi Yu, now 62, stabbed her son’s wife in Nelson and fatally stabbed her own husband when he tried to stop her. She is serving (at the psychiatric hospital) a five-and-a-half year sentence for manslaughter and attempted murder.

The tribunal says the case for letting Guan Zhi Yu stay in NZ was: she would otherwise return to China alone, and it was likely her isolation there would have a serious negative impact upon her mental health.

The tribunal also said matters of family unity were raised – and the impact of her deportation on her son, Wei Go. He came to NZ in 2002, on a student visa, worked part time as a taxi driver while he studied at Massey University, then, helped with $90,000 from his father, bought a fast-food business in Invercargill. He now has a home in Christchurch and wants his mother to live with him when she finishes her sentence.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/330476/killer-avoids-deportation-on-release

OR, for the full decision of the tribunal:

https://forms.justice.govt.nz/search/Documents/IPTV2/Deportation/rem_20160824_600272.pdf
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May 10, 2017 2:15pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  So basically the tribunal has now said every immigrant who roles up here and turns out to be retarded or dangerously psychotic can now stay because treatment is better here and they may get lonely back home.
  Every decision these guys put out just convinces me more and more that they actually need to be psychiatrically evaluated themselves.
  
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  May 10, 2017 2:57pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5 , Stars and Stripes,,both gutted that she doesn’t t have a Muslim sounding name ?
  
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  May 10, 2017 3:00pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    No my concern more lies with the New Zealand education system if you are a product of it.
    
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    May 10, 2017 4:01pm
krazykiwi

The last nail in the UK Labour party coffin?

100 moderate Labour MPs to form breakaway group if Jeremy Corbyn stays on after a Tory landslide.

Labour faces a historic split after the election with as many as 100 of the party’s MPs set to walk out and form their own breakaway group in an attempt to force out Jeremy Corbyn, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

Moderate Labour candidates are already in talks with potential donors about a new “Progressives” group forming in Parliament if Mr Corbyn stays on as leader after a Tory landslide.

One potential scenario is for the MPs to resign the Labour whip and become independents grouped together in the Commons under the Progressives banner.
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May 10, 2017 2:49pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The way things are brewing in Labour NZ at present the same thing could happen here.
  
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  May 10, 2017 4:37pm
Fletch

Could Hillary be running again in 2020? At least one journalist thinks so. She is raising money again through a new group.

http://nypost.com/2017/05/07/hillarys-election-loss-excuse-means-one-thing-shes-running-in-2020/

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/hillary-clinton-is-running-for-president-again-214766

For crying out loud. GO AWAY. No one wants you! The lady is the Winston Peters of America.
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May 10, 2017 4:02pm
- RalphT
  
  Masochist; wanting her arse kicked twice.
  
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  May 10, 2017 4:15pm
- Longknives
  
  Wont she be like 80 by then??
  
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  May 10, 2017 4:21pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Still be younger than Trump…
    
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    May 10, 2017 4:28pm
    - sooty
      
      She will need a zimmer frame!
      
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      May 10, 2017 7:15pm
cha

Lots to look forward to.

BREAKING: Federal prosecutors have issued grand jury subpoenas to Michael Flynn's associates https://t.co/NQt3lvLA0G— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) May 10, 2017
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May 10, 2017 4:15pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Why did Obama approve and then renew Flynn’s security clearance?
  
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  May 10, 2017 5:01pm
stigie

Is it fair to ask how the orgy went at Monique’s house last night..?
If it’s still going all i can say is, the stamina of some Kiwibloggers is immense. Was Milky’s mum there..?
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May 10, 2017 4:33pm
EAD

As I said the other day, it always pays to read the Jewish press to see what they don’t publish in the goyim rags. Here is such an example: Dual passport holders vote overwhelmingly for more 3rd world mass immigration into France

http://www.timesofisrael.com/a-continent-away-french-israelis-flock-to-polls-to-block-le-pens-rise/

I therefore expect to see no more stories like this on Kiwiblog:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/10/jews_leaving_unsafe_france.html

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/03/is_it_time_for_the_jews_to_leave_europe.html
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May 10, 2017 5:36pm
- Kea
  
  The Times of Israel is a favourite of mine. Also check out the comments on their facebook page.
  
  They really do believe its Jews against the world, that Jews are special and that the concerns of goy are nothing to a Jew. They believe this is Gods wish. They also try and justify the crimes of Israel with daily stories about Jews as victims and second world war (where 70 million non-Jews died)
  
  The most extreme hateful filth I have ever read in a mainstream publication is all within the Times of Israel.
  
  Please don’t believe me. I might be a (97 year old) nazi, so go read it yourself folks.
  
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  May 10, 2017 5:46pm
  - EAD
    
    They really do believe its Jews against the world, that Jews are special and that the concerns of goy are nothing to a Jew.
    
    My favourite has to be Forward and the weekly section they have in there called “Anti-Semitism this week”
    
    Last week’s “anti-Semites of the week” were Chelsea football fans who, shock!, horror!, were questioning whether Tottenham fans had foreskins! Oy Veyyy!
    
    http://forward.com/opinion/world/370422/anti-semitism-vile-chelsea-fans-and-hatred/
    
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    May 10, 2017 5:57pm
Kea

One of the striking characteristics of Abrahamic religions is their obsession with sex and sexual conduct. Christians, Jews and Muslims have these obsessions in common and the damage they have created to endless generations is enormous. Not only all these sexual restrictions and hang-ups have spawned some of the worst perversions and sexual abuses that we as societies today have to deal with daily.
https://rprivitera.newsvine.com/_news/2012/07/04/12558003-religion-and-sexual-perversions

Christians, Jews and Muslim are all equally hideous when it comes to sexual perversion. Though due to the innate bigotry and ignorance of the religious, they each like to point at the others wrongs while lying about their own.

The more religious and moral someone claims to be the more likely they are to be sexual deviants. The ones to watch are those who like to rant about sexual morality in public and on blogs, while defending their religion as superior to others. They are very high risk people around vulnerable little kiddies.
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May 10, 2017 5:40pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Christians, Jews and Muslim are all equally hideous when it comes to sexual perversion. Though due to the innate bigotry and ignorance of the religious, they each like to point at the others wrongs while lying about their own
  
  How’s the air up there on that moral high ground kea? The rest of us deviants and perverts can only imagine the air is good, and the view is spectacular, while plan our next kiddie episode.
  
  Plonker.
  
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  May 10, 2017 5:50pm
  - Kea
    
    “while plan our next kiddie episode.”
    
    Goes without saying. You get points for honesty.
    
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    May 10, 2017 5:56pm
    - nasska
      
      Give the poor bugger a break Kea. Not all of the followers of the various ME Skyfairies are kiddy abusers.
      
      I’d say that less than 10% of Xtians & Jews would fall into that category although with the Muslims & their preference for underaged, mutilated girls it may be closer to 50%.
      
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      May 10, 2017 6:04pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        No no no, he needs to continue. It’s a comedy gold, fact free, bile laden rant, with more than a squiff of moral superiority.
        
        Having Jewish heritage, DPF just might take exception to be branded a ‘hideous sexual pervert’. Kea has one last life here. Let him go out with a bang 🙂
        
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        May 10, 2017 6:18pm
      - Kea
        
        Which is just what the Jews and Christians told you to think. They want you to hate the same people they hate and adopt their perverted views.
        
        In the real world (come visit some time) the predictor is not their religion, but how strongly religious they are in regard to sexual behaviour.
        
        This is very bad work from you nasska. Punch yourself in the head and go stand in the corner.
        
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        May 10, 2017 6:19pm
      - EAD
        
        Get a grip Krazykiwi,
        
        Kea is not referring to any one individual, rather types of behaviours he sees as all to commonplace such as this:
        
        http://www.smh.com.au/national/jewish-sex-abuse-victims-pressured-not-to-assist-police-secret-tapes-and-emails-reveal-20150127-12zcfa.html
        
        But at least the Priests didn’t consider themselves above the law when caught:
        
        In one secret, legally recorded 2011 telephone conversation, prominent Melbourne criminal lawyer Alex Lewenberg tells a victim of St Kilda Yeshivah centre sex offender David Cyprys he should not have co-operated with police.
        
        “I am not exactly delighted that another Yid [Jew] would assist police against an accused no matter whatever he is accused of and that is the reason why I was very disappointed,” Mr Lewenberg, who was defending Cyprys at the time of the conversation, told the victim.
        
        “Because there is a tradition, if not a religious requirement that you do not assist against Abraham and I was concerned about that … moserprinciple. Moseris well known.”
        
        Mr Lewenberg was referring to the Jewish tradition of mesirah under which a Jew does not inform secular authorities about another Jew.
        
        But remember folks, on here, apparently on “Taqqiya” is bad…..
        
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        May 10, 2017 6:24pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”In the real world (come visit some time) the predictor is not their religion, but how strongly religious they are in regard to sexual behaviour.”….
        
        All the ME religions seek to control what their followers do with their bits & pieces. Only those sufficiently naive to really believe that there’s a big fella in the sky could think otherwise.
        
        The reasoning is simple. Sexual urges are the strongest human emotion & can provide pleasure. Any religious organisation worth its collection plate knows that if it can control those instincts & deny the associated pleasure they have control over that particular adherent.
        
        Control is power & power is what religious leaders seek.
        
        Hence Jews procreating via holes in sheets, countless Muslim girls without clits & a couple of billion Xtians so screwed over by their churches that they seek relief with small boys & sheep.
        
        But God or Allah or Yahweh loves you. 🙂
        
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        May 10, 2017 6:36pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        commonplace? And as evidence you link the first MSM story that fits your narrative. Pffft.
        
        If you want to claim that one ethnic or religious group is over-represented in sexual crime then be my guest. But use science, not ingrained hatred.
        
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        May 10, 2017 6:41pm
      - Kea
        
        “Having Jewish heritage, DPF just might take exception to be branded a ‘hideous sexual pervert’. ”
        
        Krazykiwi, better hope he likes liars. No one said anything of the sort.
        
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        May 10, 2017 6:45pm
      - Kea
        
        “If you want to claim that one ethnic or religious group is over-represented in sexual crime then be my guest. But use science, not ingrained hatred.”
        
        Krazy, unless its Muslims eh ?
        
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        May 10, 2017 6:51pm
Jack5

Refugee resettlement is a business. Part of the business is education, with taxpayers supplying the finance.

The Christchurch Press today reports a Christchurch man expressing disappointment that refugees are to be directed to Invercargill, rather than Christchurch. The reason: the city is in the aftermath of the Port Hill fires and is still recovering from the earthquakes.

Patrick O’Connor is the disappointed man. He describes the Invercargill-rather-than-Christchurch decision as irrational and made without the Government consulting “key stake-holders”. O’Connor heads an organisation called PEETO. It’s an English language school, which describes itself as a multicultural learning centre.

PEETO is an acronym for Pasifika Education and Employment Training Organisation.

The PEETO web site says:

The courses currently provided by PEETO Pasifika Education and Employment Training Organisation are funded through the Tertiary Education Commission (TEC), under the banner Intensive Literacy and Numeracy scheme sometimes known as ILN. Full time ESOL courses including a Computing component are funded this way. The courses are free for students who are registered at Work and Income New Zealand as At Risk of Long Term Unemployment or are a Quota refugee and registered as a job seeker at Work and Income New Zealand.
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May 10, 2017 5:51pm
- Kea
  
  They should put them in the regions if we are going to take them at all. It will generate much needed regional growth and take the pressure off the larger centers. It is also far cheaper to supply housing in Invercargill than Auckland.
  
  Get the people in there and the jobs will come. It is a self fulfilling prophesy that people don’t go to those places because their is no work.
  
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  May 10, 2017 6:08pm
  - EAD
    
    I think we should follow the example of Israel and build a massive fence around NZ and admit zero of these ~~wild beasts~~ “refugees”
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/netanyahu-plans-fence-around-israel-to-protect-it-from-wild-beasts
    
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    May 10, 2017 6:20pm
    - Kea
      
      Only Israel did not build a massive fence in Israel. They built it in another country – on the land they invaded and occupied.
      
      Another difference is the fence is not there to protect Israel’s borders. It is to create an ethnic Ghetto of those they believe to be subhuman.
      
      Numerous UN and independent human rights groups have documented this. Only the most lunatic “deniers” attempt to refute the atrocities.
      
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      May 10, 2017 6:29pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Why are you commenting, EAD? You clearly know nothing about Israel, or the illegal annexation wall it has put up in the face of international opposition.
      
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      May 10, 2017 7:22pm
  - Jack5
    
    Kea posted at 6.08 about settling refugees:
    
    Get the people in there and the jobs will come. It is a self fulfilling prophesy that people don’t go to those places because their is no work.
    
    Not so sure about that, Kea. There’s a limit to how many people can work selling each other takeaway food or ethnic cuisine.
    
    Expecting industry, especially export industry, to spring up because people are available, is a bit of a cargo cult.
    
    Hasn’t worked for the big cities of central America, for example. Managua (2.6 million) people, low living standard, high unemployment. Tegucigalpa (1.19 million) and San Salvador (1.7 million) similar.
    
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    May 10, 2017 9:57pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From 1996, here’s DLT feat Che Fu and Chains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_6tCOMhiTI
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May 10, 2017 6:08pm
- itstricky
  
  Three down ticks? That’s a bit rough. Perhaps the down tickers should come back and explain themselves…
  
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  May 10, 2017 8:55pm
RF

What the hell is going on in Angrys world.

We have the charter schools cluster fuck with the Maori loud mouth and now we have another Maori Kelvin Davis being gagged from making public comments about Maori prisons.

Angry Andrew is sure living up to his well deserved title.
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May 10, 2017 6:51pm
Captain Mainwaring

So TV3’s stupid 7pm show (can’t even remember it’s name) just put Lizzie Marvellous up on the panel.
That’s when I switched back to 7 Sharp.
Sorry idiots, that does it for me.
Forever.
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May 10, 2017 7:10pm
Morrissey

You prefer young women to be stupid and unattractive, obviously.
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May 10, 2017 7:20pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Morrissey:
  
  Would you be kind enough to post a link to the special 1,000th comment you promised us? I never saw it.
  
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  May 10, 2017 7:30pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Damn it! Good on you Nostradamus, you’ve called me out. The reason I haven’t been here for six months is because I’ve been fretting over that promise I made back on December 20th….
    
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/12/general_debate_20_december_2016.html/comment-page-1#comment-1840994
    
    Writer’s block, stage fright, performance anxiety—whatever the reason, I just could not deliver. It is coming up, but it won’t be number one thousand.
    
    No. 1,000 was this rather pathetic little snipe at Chester Borrows….
    
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/05/general_debate_8_may_2017.html#comment-1924657
    
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    May 10, 2017 8:21pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Morrissey:
      
      I’m not sure what you mean by “performance anxiety”. Johnboy (as a non-representative sample of Kiwiblog lads) never expressed any such concerns!
      
      Please make sure you tell us when the special comment finally comes together for you. We’ll have our scorecards ready.
      
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      May 10, 2017 8:34pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Speaking of score cards
        
        “You prefer young women to be stupid and unattractive, obviously”
        
        No, we have you for that Mossey and that little attempt of yours score 1.5/10
        
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        May 10, 2017 8:52pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        “score 1.5/10” – finally someone that Stephieboy can compete against!
        
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        May 10, 2017 9:06pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “You prefer young women to be stupid and unattractive, obviously.”
  
  I didn’t say she was unattractive, but stupid, yes.
  
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  May 10, 2017 9:53pm
Rachael Membery

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2017/05/father-to-spend-life-in-prison-for-feeding-dead-son-to-pigs.html
Poor little boy, why didn’t they just let him go live somewhere else?
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May 10, 2017 7:46pm
nasska

A woman in South Auckland asks her husband, “Where are you going Wiremu?”.

“Down to the pub”, he replies.

She says “I’m really tired. Hit me now so you don’t wake me up later”.
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May 10, 2017 8:09pm
Rachael Membery

Novel defence or…..just trying it on?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11852972
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- nasska
  
  My wife had the same problem Rachael but as luck has it I’d just completed a course in rescue breathing. 🙂
  
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