General Debate 28 April 2017

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Michael

Everyone’s gone to the moon.
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April 28, 2017 2:05pm
- Fletch
  
  Good song. Strangely melancholy…
  
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  April 28, 2017 3:32pm
Paulus Gnome

Now?

All the ‘public servants’ will be strapping on their sandals, putting on bicycle clips, cardigans with leather elbow patches and heading out the door, ‘can’t do this blogging on my own time y’know’
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April 28, 2017 2:07pm
cmm

Unexpected surplus after GD cutbacks…. must be an election year!
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April 28, 2017 2:09pm
Jack5

Is there industrial action at Kiwiblog? Captain Farrar is running the General Debate cutter himself today.

Meanwhile, Sergeant Alexander Blackman, of the Royal Marines, has been released after 1,277 days in prison for killing a wounded Taliban.

What do you reckon, Mikenmild? The lawyers and judges should do the front-line fighting themselves from now on?
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April 28, 2017 2:10pm
- cmm
  
  Are you saying he should have rather done the 1277 days for killing a lawyer or a judge?
  
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  April 28, 2017 2:24pm
  - Jack5
    
    CCM – no.
    
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    April 28, 2017 2:41pm
    - G152
      
      But don’t give us ideas like that 🙂
      
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      April 28, 2017 3:48pm
- mikenmild
  
  You think he’s learned his lesson, Jack?
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:44pm
  - Jack5
    
    Hi Milky! You’re up.
    
    I don’t know the marine sergeant learned anything from his persecution by civil law other than that helmet video cameras are dangerous for the soldiers who wear them.
    
    At least there’s been justice from a similar but much broader inquisition. The despicable mongrel, Phil Shiner, the law professor who led the persecution of British Iraq veterans, has been struck off as a solicitor for misconduct and dishonesty. He’s also been bankrupted.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/feb/02/iraq-human-rights-lawyer-phil-shiner-disqualified-for-professional-misconduct
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3384677/COLONEL-RICHARD-KEMP-country-pay-lawyers-persecute-war-heroes.html
    
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    April 28, 2017 9:13pm
Kimbo

OK, so no reaction by Michael Woodhouse and/or Bill English to the revelations on Kiwiblog yesterday regarding Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari? So we are nearly at 5:00pm Friday, when any chance of this appearing in a news cycle are passed.

Can I suggest that if you want to achieve something tangible in the media and political realm – other than making a few folks around here angry – you don’t have the revelations championed by a disgraced former -MP whose political career went down like the Hindenburg, and whose general views towards immigrants who are Muslims is “we should do what the Americans did to their Japanese residents in the 1940s”, even though (and this from a lawyer) it would be “harsh and inevitably unjust “. In context “inevitably” is a very necessary adverb.

Oh yeah, and disingenuous yet obsequious phrases such as “Given the dysfunction of your department in this regard, (I mean no criticism of you)” loses extra points.

Any political handler for the government who was aware of that back story, would be advising “don’t touch this with a forty foot barge pole!” Sorry, David Garrett, other than a few cheers around here (and despite my distaste for your regular habit of misrepresenting others in this forum, I nonetheless salute you for 3S)

…it would seem your days as a political mover-and-shaker are over. Damaged goods. I don’t make the rules. I just report them.
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April 28, 2017 2:13pm
- Jack5
  
  Kimbo, talk about poking a stick into a beehive!
  
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  April 28, 2017 2:17pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Hey, if David Garrett stops lowering the tone by misrepresenting others, I will move on to other things. If we don’t mutually try and keep standards around here – former MP with a significant political achievement to his well-earned credit or not – then the whole place suffers.
    
    But on reflection not liking Bromhead is a matter of taste, no more. 😉
    
    But as with the efforts of the SST, it is one thing making people mad. But if you don’t get the scalps, what, other than priming your potential opponents have you achieved. Like Sean Connery in ‘The Rock’: “You’ll do your best?! Losers whine ‘I’ll do my best’. Winners f%$* the Prom Queen!”
    
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    April 28, 2017 2:20pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Your have no standards you cowardly bottom feeder. You would not have balls if you are a male to front Winston let alone David Garrett. Pop up to the Delta any Friday night and say what you think of Winston. No one will deck you as there is a 2 year ban for fighting but they will let you know what they they think of you.
      
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      April 28, 2017 2:48pm
      - Kimbo
        
        On the contrary sir, to paraphrase Marx (Groucho, not Karl), “I have my standards, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others”.
        
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        April 28, 2017 2:50pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Fuck you and the horse you rode in on Chuckie
        
        Happy to tell you and your arsehole mate Winnie that face to face next time you’re in the Mount chap.
        
        Pretentious old windbags the pair of you
        
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        April 28, 2017 3:36pm
      - GoVege
        
        Leave the horse out of this, Awww Come-on!
        
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        April 28, 2017 4:11pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      @Awww C-mon
      
      And what is you name?
      
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      April 28, 2017 3:46pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        @ Chuck
        
        you name chuck
        me name awww c-mon
        
        Farrrkkkk they have medication you could take aye….
        
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        April 28, 2017 3:51pm
      - Viking2
        
        Still at your old games of endeavoring to smear people then I see. Been going on for near on 10 years. Time you fucked off into the nutter village.
        
        Used to try to accuse people of being young men fuckers did this obnoxious piece of shit.
        
        Been in more political parties than any one else you can name. Stuffed all of them.
        
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        April 28, 2017 6:53pm
  - Kimbo
    
    And also credit where it is due, good on David Garrett for yesterday, in response to Chuck Bird’s suggestion that Parliament should have been summoned today to pass under emergency the immigration-version of an Act of Attainder against Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari (this, presumably after they also rushed through legislation allowing re-entry into the Pike River Mine)
    
    …that that is an unlikely scenario, with the implication it’s not how a responsible nation orders its constitutional affairs.
    
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    April 28, 2017 2:29pm
    - VicParking
      
      What do National know that we dont. They are falling over backwards to loose the election.
      
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      April 28, 2017 2:41pm
      - Kimbo
        
        That the New Zealand electorate is not the same as a Kiwiblog echo-chamber when it is in an induced click-bait-inspired moral panic?
        
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        April 28, 2017 3:21pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Anonomously
    
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    April 28, 2017 3:45pm
    - Kimbo
      
      So that makes the point less valid? Eye on the ball Rachael with a funny spelling. As I’ve explained before, with obsessives like Chuck Bird around, I value my (or more exactly my family’s) safe space. 😉
      
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      April 28, 2017 3:57pm
      - Kimbo
        
        And what is the opprobrium level for a one-word post consisting of…an adverb?!
        
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        April 28, 2017 4:06pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Beats being verbose.
        To the point I would say.
        You (seem to) have a problem with ‘real’ people. 😉
        
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        April 28, 2017 4:41pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Beats being verbose.
        
        Another one who’s got my number!
        
        To the point I would say.
        
        No, I suggested it was off-point.
        
        You (seem to) have a problem with ‘real’ people. ?
        
        Damn! And again!
        
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        April 28, 2017 4:45pm
- SGA
  
  Well, Kimbo, I’m curious whether you are about to get an invitation to Kanohi Road, Kaukapakapa…old villa house with a green roof, down a long drive (from previously invitations on this blog).
  
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  April 28, 2017 3:47pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Yes, I’m eagerly (justified adverb!) awaiting the invitation to add to my crowded social calendar. What does one bring to such an occasion with a self-proclaimed “working-class Gizzie lad”? Lion Red? Or, if I’m pretentious, (cask) wine? 😉 And does one work one’s way in from the outside to the inside with the table utensils, or just use your hands to hold the food? So many potential social gaffes! 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 3:54pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  Kimbo, So you think process is more important than common sense results and booting the peado out. That tell be me something about you and your supporters. Winston will be doing the rounds and he won’t have security like Key had a bet you or Awww C-mon will not front. You have as big balls as my neutered billy goat.
  
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  April 28, 2017 3:52pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Chuckie chuckie chuckie
    
    Ever heard the saying don’t take a knife to a gun fight?
    
    Sir, with Kimbo you are fronting up with a butter knife against a hollywood style arsenal.
    
    And when you react to trolls like myself you simply prove you are in fact the one trying to hang onto the last memories of a failing manhood, now go apologise to that damn goat for making him a copy of yourself.
    
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    April 28, 2017 4:07pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      failing manhood, you should talk. Trolls like you do not have any to start with. I do not know how old you are but I assume a lot younger than Winston so you would be brave enough to get in his space but I doubt if you would front him at a meeting. He would be far quick than you and Kimbo together.
      
      Unlike you and Kimbo I have zero tolerance for paedophiles.
      
      BTW – Have you seen the latest Roy Morgan poll. NZF in on 10.5%. NZF will have the balance of power and National not by helped the way they have dealt with this peadophile.
      
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      April 28, 2017 4:26pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Unlike you and Kimbo I have zero tolerance for paedophiles.
        
        I see what you did there 😉 You’ve picked up the “misrepresent another blogger” habit from David Garrett, haven’t you?
        
        Here’s a suggestion. Send the paedophiles on a Pike River Mine recovery mission, with you and the Messiah leading the way of course. It will kill lots of (Chuck) Birds with one stone…
        
        (Do I have to explain for the retarded and/or senile that I don’t really wish Chuck Bird harm?)
        
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        April 28, 2017 4:30pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Now there you go putting words into my mouth,
        
        I despise peado’s and would happily put this one out of his misery.
        
        I also dislike old windbags who try to talk to tough on blogs, you need to look in the mirror and check your ego a little. If your arguments cant stand on their own merits being a tough guy wont help.
        
        Now me and Winny, actually I wouldnt get in his space, he is a public official and I would respect the office, even if I think he is a bigoted POS. (which he is) Changing your argument this late in the game is close to defeat though isnt it? you challenged me to call him an arsehole to his face, now its a debate…. what do you want chuckie? stick to one idea aye chap
        
        and yes, I would be younger than most here, and yes, I could back up my words… what about you Chuckie? Would you talk this tough in person??
        
        Would you make the insinuations about Kimbo that you continue to make in person? Lets not bring your hero Winnie to the table… how about you face Kimbo?
        
        No???
        
        I wouldnt want to waste his time anyway, and if a meeting was to happen there are a long list of things I would love to discuss with Kimbo that are way more interesting than you
        
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        April 28, 2017 4:42pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Kimbo, So you think process is more important than common sense results and booting the peado out. That tell be me something about you and your supporters.
    
    You got me with the “have you stopped beating your wife?” interrogation! And “supporters”? What person with any sense, pride or reputation would “support” me and my musings. Time to head down to the Delta with the other intellectual giants, Chuck…
    
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    April 28, 2017 4:12pm
Longknives

Seems every dickhead who causes trouble on flights now goes running to the Media-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=11847009

If I’m flying Economy I don’t go into Business or First Class- This is because I haven’t paid for the Service. Simple isn’t it?
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April 28, 2017 2:20pm
- VicParking
  
  Get on a plane cause a fuss. Get kicked off. Sue the airline. Travel first class. Soon everybody will be doing it. Double points it you can fit it in racism or a handicap.
  
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  April 28, 2017 2:38pm
  - Albert_Ross
    
    You can do the same to practically any business these days. Threaten to air a complaint, no matter how poorly justified or unreasonable, on TripAdvisor, FaceBook or similar. Even if it’s done absolutely nothing wrong in reality, the business will not be able to face the adverse publicity and is more than likely to cave in and pay up. I don’t think it’s going too far to call this sort of behaviour extortion, or even blackmail, and the media shouldn’t be colluding in it
    
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    April 28, 2017 2:45pm
  - Jack5
    
    Vic, such bullshit is so common that in a week or two it won’t be news, and airlines will be able to harden up again.
    
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    April 28, 2017 2:48pm
- Ashley Schaeffer
  
  I think airlines need to consider having cameras in all of their planes now to combat the rather one-sided cellphone clips that seem to surface which usually show the final and seemingly extreme reaction of crew but not the events that led up to that point. People would have less sympathy for the restrained passenger if they got to see the alleged abuse being hurled at the crew and other passengers.
  
  The buses up my way all have multiple cameras on board for security – why not planes?
  
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  April 28, 2017 2:51pm
- Straight arrow
  
  The flight is less than 10 hours for a start. The entire flight may have taken 14 hours after stopover. Media state he was “trying to stretch his legs in business class” but other reports (and BA) note he had taken a seat. If you have a known medical condition then you as passenger need to make appropriate decisions (fly / not fly, cattle / business class). Passenger was verbally abusing crew. Nothing stopping him walking around cattle class or politely informing crew that his legs were swelling and asking for help.
  
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  April 28, 2017 4:14pm
Jack5

China has posted the addresses of four corruption suspects believed to be living in New Zealand, reports the Sydney Morning Herald.

Anyone know where on the web we can read the in English the names of the suspects?

It’s interesting that the Chinese authorities say the names have been posted after tip-offs from abroad.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/wanted-chinese-fugitive-believed-to-be-hiding-in-plain-sight-on-leafy-inner-west-street-20170427-gvu73h.html
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April 28, 2017 2:40pm
- Jack5
  
  The Hooerald now has the China corruption suspects news. It has names and pictures.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11847325
  
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  April 28, 2017 11:31pm
Jack5

Where are Mikenmild and the Stephiestanis today?
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April 28, 2017 2:51pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Knocked off work for the day.
  
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  April 28, 2017 2:57pm
- dad4justice
  
  The nurse forgot to unlock their doors so they could enter the ward.
  
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  April 28, 2017 3:12pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    and you know this because…
    
    a/ bitch did it to you too
    b/ bitch let you out and not them
    c/ you are the bitch
    
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    April 28, 2017 3:41pm
    - dad4justice
      
      What a nut case. Go prick needles into your d4j doll you crackhead.
      
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      April 28, 2017 3:44pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        D4J Doll??? Bahahahahaha
        
        Is that kind of like one of those Paul Henry butt plugs that were around a few years ago?
        
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        April 28, 2017 3:49pm
      - Longknives
        
        Is that the ‘Richie’ Doll complete with Glider and working parts? (Including joystick..)
        
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        April 28, 2017 5:10pm
      - dad4justice
        
        No Longdive your other identity big bruv has the “Richie” doll. No doubt you can put the joystick where Clint likes it.
        
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        April 28, 2017 5:13pm
- GazzaW
  
  POETS Day? (Piss off early, tomorrow’s Saturday)
  
  ztrev has only been here intermittently too. Maybe the three of them are altogether in a phone booth at a regional Labour Party conference.
  
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  April 28, 2017 5:49pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    with room for the refreshment table and a space for the drunk to piss in the corner at closing time
    
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    April 28, 2017 5:58pm
trout

Trump has ordered a review of the aluminium industry ( as for steel) with the objective of building up production in the USA. If this leads to tariffs, or ‘countervailing duties’ the cost burden is likely to kill off Tiwai Point. The flow on will be surplus electricity in the NZ market or an opportunity to attract industry requiring cheap energy.
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April 28, 2017 3:17pm
trout

For those that complain about subsidies for rail it is worth taking notice of the disruption and cost of a massive increase of truck movements on the South Island roads as a consequence of the Kaikoura earthquake. It is obvious that main trunk rail transport (inefficient as it is because of single rail configuration) limits damage and congestion (and accidents) on main roads and justifies a subsidy (from road tax). Rail is an integral part of the transport network
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April 28, 2017 3:24pm
EAD

It’s interesting what you read when you read the Jewish Press. Stuff that never gets covered by the people who control the Press in Goyim countries.

For example:

Former defense minister Moshe Ya’alon on Saturday said the Islamic State terrorist group in the Syrian Golan Heights “apologized” for attacking an Israeli unit.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-defense-minister-says-is-apologized-to-israel-for-november-clash/

Or indeed:

Israel has provided humanitarian assistance to wounded Syrian fighters located near the shared border since the civil war stated, the defense minister said

http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/

Interesting isn’t it – ISIS never attack Israel, apologise when they accidentally fire on them while Israel meanwhile helps wounded ISIS fighters! All the while our MSM tell us that ISIS is supposedly our worst enemy (well excluding anyone labelled a “Nazi”), responsible for all od the terrorist atrocities occurring in our lands who we must spill our precious blood for in order to defeat!

EDIT: A quick Google search does reveal one Goyim prolefeed “news” source ~~spinning~~ reporting on Israel helping ISIS fighters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/Watch-heart-pounding-moment-Israeli-commandos-save-Islamic-militants-Syrian-warzone-risking-lives-sworn-enemies.html
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April 28, 2017 3:29pm
- Reid
  
  What do you think about the story Israel has found heaps of oil in the Golan Heights?
  
  That’s one reason why they’re helping ISIS in Syria.
  
  The evil plan is to balkanise Syria by setting up an ISIS stronghold in Eastern Syria and getting Hezbollah heavily involved in fighting it there so as to degrade it so it can’t resist the annexation, when it comes.
  
  BTW, did you hear that Italy and Germany agreed on a pipeline to Europe with Israel the day before the recent chemical ~~attack~~ false flag? How convenient. You know about those huge gas fields off the Israeli coast right? And they have to get a pipeline to Europe through Syria to exploit it. The Israeli’s employed Flynn to do some work on it. His job was to smooth the way to an extradiction of Guhlen to Turkey so Israel could keep Erdogan interested in helping them with Syria.
  
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  April 28, 2017 4:38pm
  - Reid
    
    I’m guessing the downtickers understand nothing about any of those issues I mentioned, they just downticked because they’re idiots.
    
    Because there’s lots of evidence for what I said. As you’ll find out if you want to stop being an idiot.
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:06pm
    - EAD
      
      The downtickers minds have been crippled by 2 things.
      
      – The Schofield Bible (one of the biggest Frauds ever commited, which, amongst other things, introduced the crazed concept of “Chosen Ones”)
      – & the Holohoax
      
      this time round they can’t offer the usual “anti-semite” “hater” dismissal as I’ve quoted Jewish news agencies so by downticking they can at least assuage their holo-guilt without having to offer up a response.
      
      I mean, even the poor Irish are getting holo-guilted into demographic suicide:
      
      http://beyondthepale.info/2017/04/24/holocaust-propaganda-used-guilt-trip-ireland-accepting-limitless-numbers-refugees/
      
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      April 28, 2017 7:01pm
Johnboy

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/92020165/barack-obama-seemed-different-but-hes-just-another-moneygrubbing-politician

Oh my little heart aches for the lefty folk that feel so diminished by the greed of the Kenyan! 🙂
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April 28, 2017 3:31pm
Johnboy

I wonder if Auntie has signed up with the Harry Walker Agency? 🙂
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April 28, 2017 3:35pm
calendar girl

GD’s non-appearance until nearly 2:00pm today has not helped National MPs keep abreast with anger being expressed here about the Government (through Michael Woodhouse and his officials) dropping the ball on the Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari case. The latter person is a repeat-offender, convicted criminal, a paedophiliac refugee still ‘enjoying’ our unjustified welcome and hospitality,

There’s no suggestion on my part that GD’s late appearance is anything other than an unfortunate operational shortcoming. But someone is sure to suggest that it is the result of a conspiracy to keep the embarrassing Immigration fiasco ‘off the front pages’.

I’m still angry at the shortcomings exposed in Mr Woodhouse’s control of his portfolio, and his Department’s soft approach to a dangerous criminal who is a threat to vulnerable New Zealand children. Where do the inexplicable views of some of our decision-makers come from? They don’t seem to run parallel with any spirit of justice and public order that most New Zealanders would expect as a matter of course.

We should have been able to expect that Mr Woodhouse’s resignation by now as Minister of Immigration, leaving some minor wriggle room for a dignified changeover. It’s clear, however, that he won’t go. So again I’m looking to the Rt Hon Bill English to use his authority as Leader to deal with such a disgraceful episode that has arisen in the early months of his Government.

When can we expect to hear Mr English’s Prime Ministerial take on the matter, and how he intends to deal with it?
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April 28, 2017 3:40pm
- Yvette
  
  A comment from another blog …
  
  Akbari’s problems appear spread over two Government departments –
  Corrections and Immigration.
  
  While Immigration Minister Michael Woodhouse works on reversing the non-deportation decision to match his declared expectations, the man should simply be locked up to serve the 238 days that remain in his initial sentence.
  
  Since his early release February 21, he has apparently now been convicted and sentenced for harassing women at shopping malls, given a “pre-charge” warning for misbehaviour with young girls and women at a Henderson swimming complex, required observe a curfew, have no unsupervised contacts with under 16 year olds, and to wear GPS – while the original sentence was to end October 16, 2017.
  
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  April 28, 2017 3:56pm
  - Johnboy
    
    You’ll always be beautiful to me Yvette! 🙂
    
    ps: I’d have said that in French but I cant find my Bing any more. 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 4:04pm
    - Yvette
      
      Was it the Still Room Bar and Kitchen on Oroua Street, Eastbourne, Johnboy, you wanted to convene in?
      Alas, I am now a bit beyond both travel and convening :o) and you have lost your Bing?
      C’est la vie, Johnny.
      
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      April 28, 2017 4:25pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Twas the Lighthouse Yvette…. Reids favourite watering hole. I’m sorry we never met and sad to hear that your zimmer makes it impossible.
        I shall always hold a torch for you! 🙂
        
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        April 28, 2017 5:07pm
- jgw739
  
  There is something seriously wrong here… I wonder if the journalist who blew the whistle still has a job? The fourth estate silence since Monday is deafening, but the fact we haven’t heard anything substantial from the powers that be is really concerning…. can any lefties present put a shout out on FaceTube please??
  
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  April 28, 2017 7:49pm
sooty

With the areoplanes in NZ carting the 5 eyes people, on the return trip, they could have thrown Kim Da Crim in the hold with adult diapers on and carted him off to the USA. No 5 star service for him!
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April 28, 2017 3:45pm
Johnboy

I’ve been away for a while.

Are all the old people dead? 🙂
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April 28, 2017 3:46pm
- dad4justice
  
  Good to see you back Johnboy.
  
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  April 28, 2017 3:53pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Thanks dad. I can see you are still here! 🙂
    
    Nil illegitimi carborundum old chap! 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 4:01pm
sooty

If Labour had not thrown Aunty Annie King out and replaced her with Jacinda.
What would Labours polling be today?
Are they where they are because Jacinda is holding the numbers up?
How much lower would they be because off the Andy effect?
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April 28, 2017 3:53pm
- James Stephenson
  
  I don’t reckon she’s made any difference to the numbers at all. Labour are bumping up against the limit of their hardcore tribal support, so numbers can’t go lower. Jacinda’s extra sizzle might be all good for getting attention but the electorate have rapidly sussed that the steak’s still missing and are sticking with Bill’s boring burgers.
  
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  April 28, 2017 4:36pm
- GazzaW
  
  It was a Roy Morgan poll. Let’s wait for a real one.
  
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  April 28, 2017 5:51pm
Johnboy

Hard to believe that some of you folks are suggesting a Nat conspiracy for the late arrival of GD today. None of you obviously realise that it’s Akshaya Tritiya today and DPF has to stand in for Kokila in his capacity as a new father suffering from sleepless nights….Shame on you all! 🙂
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April 28, 2017 3:58pm
- Kimbo
  
  While I would ordinarily hail your presence, JB, in this case kindly f*&^ off , there’s a good chap. I’ve got smart-arse sarcasm well-covered on this belated GD, thanks very much 🙂 (Three adverbs there, btw)
  
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  April 28, 2017 4:04pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Wots a fuckin addverb then Mush? 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 4:06pm
    - Kimbo
      
      We obviously have some catching up to do since your last visit… 😉
      
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      April 28, 2017 4:09pm
  - Kimbo
    
    With SGA providing subtle sarcasm…
    
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    April 28, 2017 4:10pm
  - Jack5
    
    Three adverbs, or two?
    
    Kimbo’s adverbs at 4.04: “ordinarily” and “kindly” but is “well-covered” an adverb (compound adverb), or something else? Perhaps adjectives used predicatively?
    
    There must be some library gnome following Wikipedia who can tell us.
    
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    April 28, 2017 4:39pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Yes, I miscounted, misreading “belated(ly)”, and was hoping no one would notice. But the thoroughness of your critique means my usual defenses of bluster and bullshit are ineffective. But on the bright side, that’s why I want you on my pub quiz team.
      
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      April 28, 2017 5:10pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Well-covered is an adjective.
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:54pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Yep. But on a more serious note on which you no doubt have expertise, as per my post at 3:54PM, what does one bring when they go to dine at the house of a self-confessed “working class” product of Gisborne? And is “Nescafe” the socially acceptable reply if one is asked “what sort of coffee do you want?”?
        
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        April 28, 2017 6:58pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Whereas…. “Get it off” … is a proposition! 🙂
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:01pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Bring a big cray and a load of puha.
        Coffee is a bit sophisticated for a gizzy boy. Stick to stewed tea.
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:15pm
Jack5

How long does it take to fly to London?

The rostered-on Stephiestani fails to show up on Kiwiblog General Debate, and this happens in London ….

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/27/armed-police-swooped-terror-suspect-headed-downing-street-bag/
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April 28, 2017 4:27pm
- Jack5
  
  From the downtick, there could be a jihad collaborator lurking here.
  
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  April 28, 2017 4:40pm
Rodney Randall

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/88112298/air-nz-plane-hijacker-asha-abdille-threatens-repeat-action

Another awful bastard Immigration NZ have fully blessed.

Maybe this maggot should shack up with the Snackbahri sexual emergency fella?

Why the fuck these arseholes aren’t sent packing, is one of the universe”s great mysteries.

How much is this vile bitch costing the NZ taxpayer?

Klonipin for Abdili?

MORE LIKE A BULLET.

Woodhouse is political toast and rightfully so.
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April 28, 2017 4:34pm
- Reid
  
  I think it’s international law that a deportee’s home country must agree to accept them. I think it’s probable there is an obligation to do so unless there exist exceptional circumstances, unless and until the person’s citizenship status changes. Which it may do when that person receives either residency and/or citizenship in the country which is wanting to deport them.
  
  I mean Immigration are not idiots. The Afghani case discussed yesterday probably falls into the category of: if he goes home to where he used to live people will finger him to the Taliban who will kill him, or if he lives somewhere else in Afghanistan he knows no-one and since there probably is no pension in Afghanistan he will probably wind up begging on the street before starving to death.
  
  It may not be quite as bad but I imagine something like those considerations arose.
  
  That’s not excusing his actions, lest people misunderstand.
  
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  April 28, 2017 4:52pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Reid: “It may not be quite as bad but I imagine something like those considerations arose.”
    
    I’m certain the Immigration officials had a circle wank over what might happen if said plane terrorist and serial rapist/fiddler were sent back to their respective shitholes.
    
    Much preferable/humane to have them ‘corrupt’ the innocent here in their new accomodating land!
    
    It is a travesty of justice that we can’t accelerate the unbridled importation of such heterogeneous creatures to our shores!
    
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    April 28, 2017 5:13pm
    - Reid
      
      No but the point is Rodney if you’re someone like us in an office in Wgtn with a family waiting at home, how do you expect someone like that to coldly sign that man’s death warrant, go home to their family, and never think about it ever again?
      
      Not rocket science, is it.
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:07pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”to coldly sign that man’s death warrant, go home to their family, and never think about it ever again?”….
        
        I’m a kindly sort of bloke Reid but I could sign that piece of excrement’s deportation order and/or execution warrant in a heartbeat & celebrate the anniversary of the signing as I would a family birthday.
        
        I have that much respect for the well being of NZ’s women & girls.
        
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        April 28, 2017 6:17pm
      - Reid
        
        Pointing out possible reasons for the decision does not constitute disrespect for “NZ’s women and girls” mate.
        
        Notice I didn’t give you my opinion on what would be an acceptable solution.
        
        That wasn’t an accidental omission.
        
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        April 28, 2017 6:33pm
      - Rodney Randall
        
        “No but the point is Rodney if you’re someone like us in an office in Wgtn with a family waiting at home, how do you expect someone like that to coldly sign that man’s death warrant”
        
        If you are govt official with a young family of infant girls…Perhaps a night visit from the magical Ackbahri into the rooms of your daughters could be the game changer???
        Or maybe a dagger into one of their hearts onboard a plane from a lovely Abdille type character?
        
        Always easier to be compassionate and pious when ‘they’re’ raping and stabbing someone else:)
        
        Why not even advertise: Rapists and Terrorists from all shitholes welcome!!! You won’t be deported because we are SOOOO PROGRESSIVE.
        
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        April 28, 2017 8:21pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Starve on the street? ‘frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn’
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:03pm
    - Reid
      
      No but civilisation does, let’s hope you want to be a part of that.
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:09pm
      - Viking2
        
        Wrong, we don’t. Not a nice person.
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:08pm
      - Reid
        
        No, quite. So if we can’t deal with him via deportation because if we do he dies, then perhaps we should be kicking our laughable “justice” system up the arse till it gets the message it needs to deal with issues like this, much much better than it currently is.
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:16pm
      - calendar girl
        
        I don’t accept your premise “…. can’t deal with him via deportation because if we do he dies ……”.
        
        Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari has made his own choices, despite the unjustifiable ‘clemency’ granted to him over the last few months. He must go.
        
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        April 29, 2017 9:18am
- sooty
  
  Sh would be on a no fly ban by the airlines. Only allowed on in handcuffs and gaurds as well, on a one way trip.
  
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  April 28, 2017 5:14pm
- Longknives
  
  Why the FUCK is this person still in New Zealand?
  She is threatening to hijack an Aeroplane!
  
  Time to step up National!! You are looking like pathetic wimps..
  
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  April 28, 2017 5:33pm
Jack5

Anyone had a chance yet to listen to the Espiner interview with Jenny Shipley? From the notes on the Radio NZ site, she has some interesting things to say, including about Winston Peters.

I think DPF, our host, once worked for Shipley.

Perhaps we should save to the Saturday General Debate the Kiwiblog 101 analysis class on Shipley. That will give us a chance to listen to the interview.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/programmes/the-9th-floor/story/201841731/the-challenger-jenny-shipley
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April 28, 2017 4:46pm
Reid

I think DPF, our host, once worked for Shipley.

I know he worked for Bolger.

Thanks for the link Jack.
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April 28, 2017 4:53pm
Reid

When the gullible and insouciant American public and the presstitutes who participate in the deceptions permitted the Deep State to get away with the fairy tale that a few Saudi Arabians under the direction of Osama bin Laden, but without the support of any government or intelligence agency, were able to outwit the entirety of the Western Alliance and Israel’s Mossad and deliver the greatest humiliation in history to “the world’s only superpower” by making the entirety of the US government dysfunctional on September 11, 2001, Washington learned that it could get away with anything, any illegal and treasonous act, any lie. The gullible Western populations would believe anything that they were told.

Not only insouciant Americans, but much of the world accepts any statement out of Washington as the truth despite the evidence. If Washington said it, Washington’s vassals in Germany, France, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Belgium, and Japan assent to the obvious lie as if it were the obvious truth. So do the CIA purchased media of these vassal states, a collection of whores who prefer CIA subsidies to truth.

… Trump was shown photos of dead babies and stupidly ordered a US military strike against Syria.

This was the first time that Washington had engaged in an unambigious war crime without any cover. Trump had no UN resolution, not even one that could be stood on its head as in Libya. Trump had no NATO participation, no George W. Bush “coalition of the willing” to give cover to the war crime with the support of other governments.

There are no skirts for Trump to hide behind. He stupidly let himself be pushed into commiting an unambigious war crime.

Now all his opponents—the Deep State, the military/security complex, the CIA, the Hillary Democrats, the warmonger Republicans—have the New White House Fool under their control. If Trump doesn’t do as they want, they will impeach him for his war crime.

Meanwhile the risk of war with the Russian/Chinese/Iranian/Syrian alliance grows closer. The US shows every intention of provoking this war.

In order to make this false [chem attack] charge stick, Washington prevented any investigation whatsoever into the facts. If Washington is so certain that Syria is responsible, why does Washington block an investigation? If Washington is right, an investigation would prove Washington’s case. But as Washington is again lying through its teeth, an investigation would prove the contrary. And that is what Washington fears and is the reason Washington blocked an investigation.

Why do Western peoples believe the US government, a well proven liar, who blocks an investigation and asserts that everyone must believe Washington or else be put on a list of Russian agents?

Are Western populations intelligent enough to understand that the only reason for Washington to block an investigation of the alleged use by Syria of a chemical weapon is that the facts clearly do not support Washington’s lie? No, they are not.

Theodore Postol, a scientist at MIT, has concluded from his investigation that the chemical weapon was not dropped from the air but was set off on the ground and that it was not Sarin gas as Sarin lingers and the alleged aid workers who were immediately on the scene were unprotected by gloves or masks or by anything. If the gas were Sarin, they would be dead also.

The Russian explanation is that the Syrian air force attack hit a storage facility, conveniently arranged by Washington, that contained chemical weapons. I have seen reports that Washington, or Washington’s vassals such as Saudi Arabia, have provided ISIS with chemical weapons. President Putin of Russia says the reason Washington has delivered chemical weapons to ISIS is that there can be more orchestrated instances of their use that can be blamed on Assad.

I think I can say in complete confidence that this is what is happening: Washington intends to wear Russia down with orchestrated chemical attack after chemical attack, portraying Russia as an inhuman defender of Assad’s alleged chemical attacks, in order to more thoroughly isolate Russia and in order to provoke opposition to Putin’s government, especially among the US and German financed NGOs that Russia stupidly permits to operate in Russia and in the Russian media. Washington’s goal is to force by the weight of world opinion Putin to abandon Assad to Washington.

US Secretary of State Tillerson, another gigantic disappointment to those who hoped for peaceful relations between the US and Russia/China/Iran/Syria, has said that the US still intends regime change in Syria. Tillerson has advised Russia to get out of Washington’s way and to “consider carefully their support for Bashar al-Assad.”

Russia cannot abandon Assad, because if Syria falls to Washington, Iran will be next, and then the Washington-financed jihadists will be set upon the Muslim populations of the Russian Federation and China.

This is Washington’s game plan. I am certain Putin is aware of it, and I think the Chinese are, despite their inordinate focus on making money.

The questions before us could not be any clearer: Will Russia and China break and give in to Washington? If not, will Washington become a good world citizen for the first time in America’s history, or will Washington issue more threats, thereby convincing Russia and China that their alternative is to wait for Washington’s preemptive nuclear strike or deliver one themselves?

This is the only question that the world faces that is worth our attention. I spent a quarter century in Washington. The evil that is in control there at the present time is unprecedented. I have never seen anything like it.

Can the world survive the evil that is concentrated in Washington, evil that has the support of the governments of the Western world?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26/paul-craig-roberts-warns-trump-now-captive-deep-state
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April 28, 2017 5:05pm
- EAD
  
  But, hey, us “Conspiracy Theorists” need to look on the bright side Reid, at least Hillary didn’t win…..
  
  Had she done so America would be bombing Syria and provoking war with Russia, endorsing NATO and NAFTA rather than withdrawing from them, Yellen would be reinstated at the FED, Assange would still be a target, Obamacare would be in place for the foreseeable future.
  
  Yeah, think how bad that would be….
  
  “Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss” – The Who
  
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  April 28, 2017 5:42pm
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    Yeah but there are deep dynamics behind that EAD as you know and the scary part to me is, most Westerners concentrate on the superficial if they notice anything at all.
    
    Because all the think tanks and all the universities and all the media are all singing the same hymn, the idiots don’t notice how palpably fake is the consensus message from those organs on the moves that are being made. They think to the contrary, the lies are the truth and as you know, we are being run by psychopathic people just as dangerous as any of the dictators of history, and the idiots still not only don’t see it, but think the bad guys are the good guys.
    
    Fuck sheeple are dumb.
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:23pm
    - EAD
      
      the scary part to me is, most Westerners concentrate on the superficial if they notice anything at all.
      
      I know, I could post something on GD that critiques Islam and the “stupidity” of Politicians for not turning off the diversity tap as terrorism and the source of it becomes more and more commonplace.
      
      At this superficial level, the steeple can understand, but ask why and who is behind the flooding if Goyim countries with the 3rd world, they revert back to their safe “left vs. right” space. The sheeple can’t believe that the Politicians are unable to see what they see but that their saviour can be found at the ballot box by nust ticking a different box for a Politican who happens to be funded by exactly the same people….
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:49pm
      - Reid
        
        I think the issue is EAD the sheeple won’t accept the big details such as the Oded Yinon Plan or the Kalergi Plan until they are well into research having been triggered to become curious by something else.
        
        But you get the feeling you’re just firing arrows at steel armour, don’t you.
        
        Ah well.
        
        Beyond a wholesome discipline,
        be gentle with yourself.
        You are a child of the universe,
        no less than the trees and the stars;
        you have a right to be here.
        And whether or not it is clear to you,
        no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
        
        http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:02pm
      - Jack5
        
        Reid what is it that you and many other people see in Desiderata?
        
        Take this line that you quote:
        
        … no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
        
        Reid, this sounds like sheeple bleating to me. “We’re sheeple, and that’s the way it should be. We’re sheeple and be happy we are sheeple.”
        
        What do you see or hear in Desiderata?
        
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        April 28, 2017 9:21pm
      - Jack5
        
        Reid, further on Desiderata:
        
        How do you reconcile this line from the poem or prose with frequenting Kiwiblog?
        
        Avoid loud and aggressive persons …
        
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        April 28, 2017 9:40pm
  - Longknives
    
    I upticked EAD simply because I love the Who!..
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:42pm
    - itstricky
      
      I upticked you simply because you love The Who
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:44pm
  - itstricky
    
    Had she done so America would be bombing Syria
    
    Sorry?
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:43pm
    - mikenmild
      
      It’s EAD – one must excuse the abysmal knowledge of world affairs.
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:45pm
      - itstricky
        
        And I thought I was just a dumb sheeple. Baaaaaaaaaaa.
        
        Seems appropriate with JB hanging around.
        
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        April 28, 2017 6:52pm
Johnboy

Jeese Reid when we met for a chat at the Lighthouse I’m almost certain our discourse never went into such involution! 🙂
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April 28, 2017 5:19pm
- Reid
  
  I just quoted it because I like pointing out how incredibly stupid almost all Western people are for not seeing the patently obvious even as it unfolds all around them mate. And Roberts normally does it well and eloquently, it saves me having to think up a new way to describe how stupid sheep are.
  
  Is that wrong?
  
  But seriously, surely it’s patently obvious what’s happening. But they keep getting away with it, more and more and more blatently, every time.
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:12pm
  - Johnboy
    
    What can I say Reid. I think you’re one of the cleverest chaps I’ve ever met but you always seem to make it very difficult for the rest of the good folk on KB to appreciate that.
    
    Perhaps you should consider presenting your message in a different style?
    
    Just a thought old chap. ?
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:28pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Is there a Google translate option for converting that hig-falutin’ nonsense into Wainuiese?
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:36pm
    - Reid
      
      I tried the kind and gentle way for over a decade mate but that didn’t work either, so I got very angry.
      
      I think Robert’s meme of insoucience describes it most accurately, I don’t think people are stupid, but they are asleep. And the question on the collective mind of the several billion of those who know what I know is: how much more obvious does it need to be before people start getting it.
      
      I say there are several billion of us because most educated people in most non-Western countries believe and know precisely what I believe and know. All of them know what Israel is, and does. All of them know 911 was complete and utter bollocks, all of them know what General Wesley Clark said and what it means from subsequent actions.
      
      But almost no Western people understand any of this and much, much more. Because they live in a Western bubble. They think there is diversity of choice in media because they think there is a genuine political divide. Which there is when its permitted but not when its not. And outsiders and people like myself and EAD see this but people in the Western matrix don’t.
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:50pm
Hugh Pavletich

.NEW ZEALAND: WILL THE CURRENT (HOUSING NON-PERFORMING) GOVERNMENT BE THROWN OUT 23 SEPTEMBER ?

New Zealand First in the box seat to decide next NZ Government as National Party neck-and-neck with Labour/Greens – ROY MORGAN | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/87377/new-zealand-first-box-seat-decide-next-nz-government-national-party-neck-and-neck

In April support for New Zealand First was up 3% to 10.5% putting Winston Peters’ party now clearly in the box seat to decide which parties will form New Zealand’s next Government after September’s election the latest New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll finds. … read more via hyperlink above …

… NOW … THANKFULLY … HOUSING HOPE ON THE HORIZON ! …

Bernard Hickey of Newsroom reported recently …

https://pro.newsroom.co.nz/articles/1629-newsroom-pro-s-8-things-at-8-trolling-millennials-is-easy-defamation-retrials-loom

7. Just in case you missed it…

One curious coda to the RMA debate that concluded last week was that the Opposition parties plus ACT and United Future all voted again during the third reading debate for amendments that would have abolished Rural Urban Growth Boundaries and allowed the financing of infrastructure bonds paid for with targeted rates.

The amendments were defeated by National and the Maori Party.

The irony of a Government that has railed against restrictions on land development by councils voting against removing those restrictions should be noted. And also that the proposal for infrastructure bonds was backed by the right-leaning New Zealand Initiative and voted for by the Greens and Labour. Strange times indeed.

… NEW ZEALAND’S GLOBAL – LEADING HOUSING CONSENSUS …

… WHERE IS THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP ? …

NEW ZEALAND’S HOUSING CONSENSUS: WHERE IS THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP ? … HUGH PAVLETICH … NOT PC

http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html

… Further extensive information accessible at …

Performance Urban Planning

http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
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April 28, 2017 5:26pm
Jack5

Pocahontas criticises Obama!

A Democrat senator and staunch opponent of Trump, Elizabeth Warren, has criticised Obama for making a US$400,000 speech to Wall Streeters.

Trump called Warren Pocahontas because of her apparently false claims to have American Indian ancestry.

Warren has been unable to substantiate her claims that she has North American Indian antecedents.

She has been accused of using claims of distant Native American ties to gain an unfair advantage in getting hired to coveted faculty jobs at Harvard Law School and University of Pennsylvania Law School.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/04/27/elizabeth-warren-obama-speech-wall-street-speaking-fee/
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April 28, 2017 5:34pm
Don the Kiwi

At last the truth from a Muslim who is unafraid to speak out about the wrongs of Islam.
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/where-are-moderate-muslims
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April 28, 2017 5:35pm
- Johnboy
  
  Did you put your $5 in Don? 🙂
  
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  April 28, 2017 5:42pm
  - nasska
    
    Get real! He’s as tight as a snapper’s arsehole & that’s good for 50 fathoms. 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 5:45pm
    - Johnboy
      
      He’s not here nasska. It’s Friday. Must be having snapper for dindins. 🙂
      
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      April 28, 2017 5:49pm
Johnboy

It’ll be fuckin hard work to get this thread even to a lousy 200 tonight! 🙂
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April 28, 2017 5:55pm
- mikenmild
  
  We can do it, Johnboy. Yes we can!
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:37pm
Johnboy

Definition of involution

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a (1) : the act or an instance of enfolding or entangling : involvement (2) : an involved grammatical construction usually characterized by the insertion of clauses between the subject and predicateb : complexity, intricacy

There. That should help! 🙂
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April 28, 2017 5:58pm
stigie

How do Kiwi cocky’s find their sheep in long grass….?
….
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Bloody satisfying !!
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April 28, 2017 6:01pm
Johnboy

Gidday stigie… so you’ve done it too eh? 🙂

Gotta go. A fuckin rats just popped the trap up in my ceiling….back later! 🙂
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April 28, 2017 6:04pm
Jack5

The great sell-out continues.

Landcorp wants to sell the big Jericho sheep station in Southland to foreigners.

Is Landcorp trying to knee-cap National in the run-up to the general election?
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April 28, 2017 6:08pm
- mikenmild
  
  Should they sell it to a Kiwi at a discount?
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:39pm
  - Jack5
    
    Whether a country should sell its land is a wider issue than whether to accept the highest offer, Milky. That’s why China doesn’t allow foreigners to buy land.
    
    What if Landcorp were to accept an offer from one of these: the Russian mafia group, Solntsevskaya Bratva; or Japan’s giant criminal organisation, Yamaguchi Gumi; or the Italian Camorra mafia; or Sianola, Mexico’s biggest drug cartel; or even a North Korean sovereign investment fund?
    
    The Overseas Investment mob will check the offer to Landcorp, but Landcorp does seem enthusiastic to “internationalise”. It acts as milking contractor to some of the big Chinese-owned dairy farms in NZ, for example.
    
    Sometimes, State employees come to think they own assets they manage.
    
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    April 28, 2017 9:52pm
Johnboy

Got the bastard. He’s been having a gnaw up there for the last two weeks. Lamb fat and a good old Victory trap did for the bugger.
I think I can feel the satisfaction that Trumpie is looking forward to once he sorts out that weirdo, hairjob fellow……hang on a minute there. 🙂
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April 28, 2017 6:16pm
Rachael Membery

Is this correct, if so it is nice to know?
Shared from a friend. ‘A lovely military man selling poppies stopped me today and asked if he could reposition mine – while doing so he told me that women should wear their poppy on their right side; the red represents the blood of all those who gave their lives, the black represents the mourning of those who didn’t have their loved ones return home, and the green leaf represents the grass and crops growing and future prosperity after the war destroyed so much. The leaf should be positioned at 11 o’clock to represent the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month, the time that World War One formally ended. He was worried that younger generations wouldn’t understand this and his generation wouldn’t be around for much longer to teach them. ? we must remember those from our current wars too!’
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April 28, 2017 6:29pm
- Johnboy
  
  Every time I’ve offered to re-position a poppy on a ladies breast I’ve got a smack in the kisser.
  Ask your friend what line he used? 🙂
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:33pm
  - RF
    
    There is a difference between breast & groin. Is that where you have gone wrong.
    
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    April 28, 2017 10:18pm
- mikenmild
  
  Are there specific ‘poppy’ positions for those of indeterminate gender?
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:40pm
  - nasska
    
    Yes, but since this is a family blog we won’t go there. 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:44pm
  - dad4justice
    
    No doubt you smoke the ‘poppy’ when treating anxiety issues mikeyloon.
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:51pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I tend to stick to legal substances, D4J. What about you – suffer from any exacerbation of your psychoses when intoxicated?
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:59pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  If I were keener, I would make an origami poppy.
  Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeTsWxDoIvQ
  
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  April 28, 2017 8:36pm
Johnboy

Just so you can reveal points positions to the indeterminate gender folk at HOBM tell them its 28/25 milkey old chap.

Let them know that our chaps will be quite happy to stick a point up their delicate little poppies whenever required! 🙂
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April 28, 2017 6:46pm
- mikenmild
  
  Is it true that the Wainui premier team are the heaviest ever fielded in the Swindale Shield?
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:48pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Why do you think we had to have the drainage put in at William Jones? 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:52pm
    - mikenmild
      
      And opened a KFC outlet in the clubrooms?
      
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      April 28, 2017 6:57pm
      - Johnboy
        
        The only KFC outlet in the Hutt is just up the road from the Hutt Rec Milkey.
        We only have good old, healthy, Maccas over in the Nui! 🙂
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:08pm
      - mikenmild
        
        And is it true they have milkshakes instead of Powerade at half-time?
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:13pm
      - Johnboy
        
        Made from only ewe’s milk from guess who’s ewe’s! 🙂
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:16pm
- Kimbo
  
  Meanwhile, in a serious rugby competition, Ponsonby host Grammar TEC tomorrow. With two loses from two games, is a must-win for the Ponies.
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:52pm
  - mikenmild
    
    What would Loosehead Len say?
    
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    April 28, 2017 7:15pm
    - Kimbo
      
      As Susan of Herne Bay says, it’s the unexpected conquests that give the most pleasure.
      
      I seem to recall Loosehead’s homosexual son, Gavin used to play for ~~Glamour~~ Grammar, drawn to them on account of their lovely white jersey. On a more serious note, the Ma-in-law’s club, Oats (Otahuhu) seems to have fallen on hard times the last few years…
      
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      April 28, 2017 7:43pm
Johnboy

Hell 78 to go….200 could be on folks! 🙂
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April 28, 2017 6:48pm
- mikenmild
  
  Stay with it – I’m warming up for comment No. 30,000.
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:50pm
  - Johnboy
    
    You’re a bigger legend than even Pete George Milky old chap! 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:54pm
  - nasska
    
    I hope you’re putting a bit of work into comment #30,000 Mike. From memory no one has ever got there before.
    
    I would although point out that you have serious competition as the Mt Roskill perv is closing in on you at a fearful rate! 🙂
    
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    April 28, 2017 6:59pm
    - dad4justice
      
      And mikeyloon has only been here for two years. No wonder people despise public servants!
      
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      April 28, 2017 7:02pm
      - mikenmild
        
        And they don’t despise you?
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:09pm
  - GazzaW
    
    But yours are all one liners MM.
    
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    April 28, 2017 9:42pm
- stigie
  
  “200 could be on folks!”
  
  As long as there’s no more rats in the ceiling that is..?
  
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  April 28, 2017 7:12pm
Longknives

90,000 going to Wembley to watch Klitschko vs Joshua..
How many going to watch Joseph Parker flatten his sparring partner in the usual Kevin Barry scripted bout in South Auckland?
Makes you realise who the real ‘Big Guns’ of Heavyweight Boxing are…And they AREN’T based in New Zealand.
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April 28, 2017 6:50pm
- mikenmild
  
  Miseryguts.
  At least you get to watch the All Blacks v Lions in a few weeks. That should make you happy.
  
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  April 28, 2017 6:56pm
  - Longknives
    
    Really Mikenmild?? Your alleged ‘Greatest Ever Champ’ Joseph Parker has fought literally nobody.
    David Tua was unfortunate to strike an era with Lennox Lewis, Chris Byrd, Hasim Rahman, Ike Ibeabuchi etc etc..
    If Tua was in his prime now he would be World Champ.
    I honestly think Joesph ‘ Wrapped in Cotton Wool’ Parker might have been lucky to last two rounds max with Tua in his prime??
    
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    April 28, 2017 7:04pm
    - Longknives
      
      Also- Remember that Tua fought in the States on his way up the ladder and had huge respect in America…
      Parker hides in South Auckland and fights sickness beneficiaries like ‘King Afa’!
      
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      April 28, 2017 7:09pm
    - mikenmild
      
      He’s not ‘my’ champ. I don’t regard boxing as a serious sport. Too many world champs, too much gaming the rankings, too much fixing.
      
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      April 28, 2017 7:11pm
    - Kimbo
      
      I honestly think Joesph ‘ Wrapped in Cotton Wool’ Parker might have been lucky to last two rounds max with Tua in his prime??
      
      Too soon to judge Parker, but he would have only lost to Tua if he was silly enough to stand like a statue and let Tua him. Styles make fights, and Tua, despite his big left bomb never had the skill of a Joe Frazier giving away height and reach to get inside to do the damage at the highest level.
      
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      April 28, 2017 7:11pm
      - mikenmild
        
        “You need more than a left hook and a bad haircut to beat Lennox Lewis”
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:16pm
      - Longknives
        
        “Tua, despite his big left bomb never had the skill of a Joe Frazier”
        No argument there Kimbo- Frazier was a phenomenally tough fighter in his prime (and one of the meanest Left Hooks in History) . Just damned unfortunate to bump into Ali and Foreman!..
        
        But I still reckon Tua in his prime (Think Moorer, Ruiz etc) would mop the floor with Parker..
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:16pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Just damned unfortunate to bump into Ali and Foreman
        
        Again styles make fights. Against Foreman, Frazier’s “work inside” style meant he was walking into the swing lead weights that were Foreman’s fists! Their fight-count was 0-2, the first that second round KO (after being knocked down 5 times before!) in the world title fight in Jamaica in 1973, and then a sixth round KO when they fought in 1976.
        
        But there was only ever one fighter who was “unfortunate” when it came to an Ali-Frazier match-up, and it wasn’t Frazier! Final count was 2-1 to Ali, but that last fight in Manila nearly killed them both…and as Frazier, who always held a justified grudge against Ali said…Ali bore the damage for the rest of his life. Great fight. Credit to Ali, and despite all the hype, like a great champion he could take a beating when he had to. Mind you, Frazier was the same. The matador and the bull, those two. Whereas, because “styles make fights” Ali would always beat a flat-footed puncher like a Foreman or Liston.
        
        Speaking of Moorer, I remember he was stupid enough in the 10th round when points ahead to wander into the reach of the 45-year old Foreman…who then regained his title after 20 years with one punch! 😉
        
        Bob Jones was always dismissive of Tua, despite the hype, because of his lack of size and skills to compensate. No, Parker is nowhere near a finished product, but that is not his fault, nor the standard of competition he has to face. Time will tell.
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:28pm
      - Kimbo
        
        “You need more than a left hook and a bad haircut to beat Lennox Lewis”
        
        Yep. I remember the pre-match weigh in photo, and despite his hair, Tua was still giving away what seemed like a foot in height…and the NZ TAB had them both even at $2.35, I think! Even though it was boxing, I was tempted to pile everything I had onto Lewis because you would never get better odds on an almost sure thing! Like the All Blacks playing Italy. Sure, you could get an upset (and heavy weight boxing only takes one punch), but come on! Even odds against a good tall champion with a massive reach like Lennox Lewis?!
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:38pm
      - Longknives
        
        Kimbo – I was working a night job in a Bar with a TAB at the time of the Tua/Lewis fight.
        I shit you not- 9 out of 10 bets I took on that fight were people putting their dosh on Tua knocking Lewis out in the first or second round!
        A few times I asked them if they were sure? And reminded them of the fates of Razor Ruddock and Andrew Golata..(To which I was usually met by blank stares!)
        The average Kiwi just doesn’t know much about Boxing…
        
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        April 28, 2017 7:57pm
      - Harriet
        
        I told everyone who would listen that Tyson would be out reached and lose, as he was off his game and lazy.
        I also saw a school mate fight Tua when tua was in his last year at school — and that was after he had already beaten a US Marine! — Tua was brutal, efficent, class……I saw that he would go along way, but then so too did most others. New Barry years ago.
        
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        April 28, 2017 8:05pm
nasska

Have you heard about the musical set on top of a tower block that stars Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari?

Fiddler On The Roof.
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April 28, 2017 7:37pm
- stigie
  
  Haha fucking classic !~
  
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  April 28, 2017 7:45pm
Reid

Why do people think Trump is doing what he’s doing in NK?

I have no idea myself and I’m interested.

There’s no gain in the calculation, is why.

NK is doing nothing it hasn’t been doing for decades.

The US has got reliable defences against a limited number of ICBMs even if NK fires them at them.

Trump is picking a fight and the interesting question is why: where’s the upside?
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April 28, 2017 7:48pm
- Harriet
  
  “…..NK is doing nothing it hasn’t been doing for decades….”
  
  No. The guy killed his own brother for all the world to see……and the generals take that very seriously as he has weapons and civilian targets. He’s fucken crazy Reid, he killed his own brother as he was scared of ‘regime change’ — China, US and UN encouraging change as his brother was ALSO entitled to be ‘supreme leader’ — and the NK public would have been ok with that.
  
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  April 28, 2017 8:39pm
- towaka
  
  In answer to your question Reid..it is all play acting according the the ”Hegelian Dialectic”,create conflicts and then step in with the pre-ordained solution which in this case is a Brics-backed multi-polar NWO.
  
  This links makes a good case for this..
  http://redefininggod.com/understanding-the-nwo-strategy/
  
  It might all sound crazy to a lot of people but the planning has been going on for a long time when you realise that Keynes was pushing for a world currency and one central bank to control it at Bretton Woods in 1944.When the ”re-set” comes this is what they want to install to replace the current monetary system.
  
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  April 28, 2017 9:17pm
stigie

But he’s not in NK Reid..?
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April 28, 2017 7:51pm
JasonJohns

Snowflakes are getting offended because Frank del Valle had the guts to ask a simple question: why can’t the US kill all its Muslims and save itself? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/23/north-carolina-islamophobia-muslims-threats
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April 28, 2017 8:21pm
- itstricky
  
  Zzzzzzzzzz… I think you’ve gone a little too transparent this time…Zzzzzzzzzz
  
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  April 28, 2017 8:26pm
  - Aliog
    
    It’s a troll, itstricky…ignore.
    
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    April 28, 2017 10:43pm
Viking2

David Dougherty, wrongly convicted of rape and abduction, dies after long illness

A Manawatu man who was wrongfully imprisoned for a rape he did not commit has died.

Palmerston North’s David Dougherty served more than three years in jail during the 1990s after being convicted of the abduction and rape of an 11-year-old girl in West Auckland.

He was acquitted after a retrial in 1997 and in 2001, he received an apology from the Government and was awarded $868,728.80 in compensation.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92036244/man-who-was-wrongly-convicted-of-rape-and-abduction-dies-after-long-illness
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April 28, 2017 8:26pm
JasonJohns

Marine Le Pen is under attack from France’s Jews. They claim that just because she and her father have an open mind about World War Two history they are anti-semitic. Le Pen snr was previously persecuted by France’s courts because he had an open mind about Vichy France. http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Time-to-speak-loudly-and-clearly-489216 The Front Nationale was founded by French patriots who had chosen to support the Vichy government and were tired of being denounced for that. Why should the party apologise for that? Marine Le Pen has made a firm stand against the divisive Jewish practice of kosher animal slaughter. She has repeatedly said she will ban it if elected along with halal slaughter. Hers is the stance of a patriot. I am heartened to see so many NZ patriots at this site supporting the Front Nationale and the Le Pens. Like the EDL in the UK Le Pen is being denounced by globalists for its patriotism.
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April 28, 2017 8:30pm
JasonJohns

Why are the groups representing France’s Jews campaigning so hard against Marine Le Pen? Is it because Len Pen the patriot has told the Jews: you must choose between being globalists and French? Le Pen’s position is very clear – no Jew may be a citizen of Israel and a citizen of France. Europe has had too much trouble with Middle Eastern races who will not assimilate.
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April 28, 2017 8:43pm
- Harriet
  
  At the end of WW2 European borders were pulled down while Israeli borders were constructed out of need. Yet both won the war[Modern Israel was created]. Youth in both places were then broadly bought up as polar opposites – one mostly nationalist and one mostly globalist. Israeli adults are now misunderstood and there for easily condemned. Israel and the former South Africa are polar opposites also.
  
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  April 28, 2017 8:59pm
  - cha
    
    Israeli borders were constructed out of a war on every frontier.
    
    TFIFY
    
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    April 28, 2017 11:02pm
Rachael Membery

Oops a slight miscalculation of penalty there!!!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92020138/jailed-teen-told-robberies-are-not-games
Got grown up jail.
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April 28, 2017 10:59pm
Manolo

Messiah, community organiser and defender of the poor:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/28/obama-reportedly-pulls-in-another-400g-for-speech.html
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