General Debate 24 April 2017

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krazykiwi

It seems that UK Labour are all over the Conservatives …except in relation to:
♦ Immigration
♦ Economy
♦ Brexit
♦ Defence
♦ Health

Poor ol’ Labour. Being rudderless is a problem when you’re afloat. It’s irrelevant when the ship is sinking.
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April 24, 2017 8:00am
Northland Wahine

How in the hell does this creep get to stay in NZ while a woman who is caring for our elderly is deported?

http://nzh.tw/11837608

Just begs belief.
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April 24, 2017 8:04am
- Southern Raider
  
  The immigrant dividend
  
  Can’t speak English, has spent more time in prison and on bail since arriving than out of the system and has racked up 4 serious offences in less than 5 years
  
  If he has touched my daughter I would fucken kill him
  
  He obviously had multiple Islamic sexual emergencies
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:12am
- dad4justice
  
  “Victim advocate Ruth Money said the decision to let Akbari stay in New Zealand was “outrageous”.”
  
  Fucking disgraceful, heads should roll at that dysfunctional department of immigration! He touch my daughters he would be dead by lunchtime!
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:13am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Good on Victim advocate Ruth Money for bringing this to public attention and well done NZHerald for publishing the story. It looks like Ruth Money did most of the groundwork and the Herald provided the contextual details.
    
    This is what journalists used to do in the good old days… maybe the MSM isn’t so totally fucked after all.
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:14am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      I admire your optimism.
      More likey RM did the digging and presented the story to the reporter who had the good sense not to tinker with it.
      
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      April 24, 2017 10:17am
- holysheet
  
  Immigration spokesman Marc Piercey said: “It’s important to note that if when this individual reoffends within the five year suspension period he will breach the conditions of his suspension and will be ~~liable for deportation~~ deported
  
  One assumes he is living in that vibrant suburb of Mt Roskillstan
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:17am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Oh, so another little girl has to be sexually assaulted before this predator gets sent back to his Islamic shithole? Also interesting is that the Herald couldn’t bring itself to narrow down his whereabouts from “the wider Auckland region”.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:33am
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    holysheet , “one assumes” ??
    
    You assume a great many things especially if it confirms your base prejudices and hates .
    
    Number the times you’ve vsited or stayed Mt Roskill ?
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:00am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Do you think he should be allowed to stay, Stephieboy?
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:03am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Stephieboy is silent. He/they won’t answer Crumb’s question…
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:18am
      - stephieboy
        
        On the face of it , no ! But maybe unlike you I’m not is cognisance with the full facts.
        
        What about this offender ?
        
        Sex offender liable for deportation after fraud conviction sparks residency review”
        
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/84742692/Sex-offender-liable-for-deportation-after-fraud-conviction-sparks-residency-review
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:20am
    - rightoverlabour
      
      There is a difference between fraud and assault. Look it up. New Zealand is not some Raghead shithole where sex with children (and kids) is the norm.
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:34am
      - Southern Raider
        
        And don’t forget goats
        
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        April 24, 2017 11:44am
      - holysheet
        
        or camels
        
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        April 24, 2017 12:47pm
    - holysheet
      
      Hey Stoooopidboy, don’t ask a question you might not like to answer to. My grandmother lived in the suburb from the mid 60’s to the mid 80’s. I often stayed with her in her house in Subritzky Ave. She would be ashamed to say she was from there now.
      
      Your fellow mussies have completely fucked up a very good suburb all in the name of progress
      
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      April 24, 2017 10:08am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Agree it’s not unpaid parking fines
    
    One sexual assault should have justified immediate deportation. When you do it four times there is a case for execution
    
    How on earth can INZ justify this guy being allowed a suspension of deportation?
    
    He shouldn’t have even gone to prison as that costs us money. He should have been straight on Air Dagestan
    
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    April 24, 2017 11:47am
- cmm
  
  Surely these matters should be decided in court, not at the whim of a low-level official.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:21am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Surely these matters should be decided in court, not at the whim of a low-level official.
    
    This should not require a”decision”.
    It should be “you have broken the law, pack your shit and get out”.
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:03am
    - howitis
      
      I would have thought more than two years in jail >> taken straight from the jail to the airport.
      The filthy critter did not even establish a track record of normal life in the community.
      
      Its broken, chuck it out.
      
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      April 24, 2017 10:16am
- Huevon
  
  Genuine rape culture and silence from the chattering class. It’s different when the religion of peace does it.
  
  In related news, Marine Le Pen is through to the runoff in France’s presidential election.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:25am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Progressives are only concerned for rape victims if the perpetrator can be identified as a white ( ideally Christian ) heterosexual male. Or else you will only hear the sound of chirping crickets.
    
    Great win for Le Pen, doubt she can get the top job though.
    
    It is no coincidence that the Nationalist anti globohomo push back is occurring in the English speaking oldest strongest democracies – Brexit, Trump.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:41am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  There is a proliferation of dongbeaters, dingbats and dickheads in the Labour Party.
  But, having said that, I refuse to believe that Andrew Little would appoint somebody as dumb as Woodhouse to be his immigration minister.
  Woodhouse has proven on several occasions that he is contemptible.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:42am
  - PhilBest
    
    But who in the National government, really, really effectively deals with the systemic dingbattery on the Left in this country? On CAGW? On the Iwi Mafia shakedowns? On mining and resource extraction? On urban planning? On anti-smacking? On WFF? One could go on.
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:06am
    - Peter
      
      I’m growing sick and tired of National. What’s the point of having Labour with a blue face?
      
      The world is changing fast National and you’re stuck in the Key-era of Clarkism.
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:12am
      - peterwn
        
        Looks like you will be far more sick and tired of Winston Peters in a few years time.
        
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        April 24, 2017 11:27am
- Peter
  
  “Then in 2015 he was jailed for two years and one month for five charges of indecent acts on girls aged 8 and 10 and indecently assaulting an 18-year-old.”
  
  This makes me absolutely furious. Those poor kids.
  
  He is to blame. As are his enablers. Kick him and those like him out now.
  
  Enough already.
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:01am
  - cmm
    
    It’s surely not hard to make a reasonable policy.
    
    If you offend to the extent you end up in jail, then you’re deported.
    
    The only question is whether you get deported before or after serving time.
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:48am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    The article answers one question though. Clearly if he has no command of English that he hadn’t been assisting our troops with translation services for our troops.
    He is being enabled at every level, by his family and by our systems. What were the ethicities of his victims?
    Was it the families laying the complaint or the police. If his wider family is complicit they should all go, it should be a double swinging door.
    If he has come to NZ based on family unification, if they can not control him or have no cultural issue with the crime, they should all go back to where they came from so that they can continue to provide ‘support’ to each other.
    
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    April 24, 2017 10:21am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  If you don’t want to be deported just trot out one or all of these excuses and you will be fine:
  1.I have children in NZ.
  2.My wife is depressed and it will be too hard on her
  3.Life is tough in my home country
  4.I am remorseful
  5.My home country will not exist in two years time due to rising sea levels
  6.My life is in danger back home
  7.I have good support networks here in NZ which will stop me reoffending
  8.If all else fails go for the jugular, to deport me is racist and discriminatory.
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:05am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  @NW
  I completely understand your disbelief, outrage, frustration as I feel the same.
  I never thought I’d want to be Australian, but it seems they have the right attitude about immigrant offenders: “Not here you don’t – here’s your ticket home!”
  
  Sometimes being a proud New Zealander is really hard work.
  
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  April 24, 2017 10:23am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    All the more pertinent being Anzac Day tomorrow Shaun.
    I know my grandfather did not spend four years in the trenches to see his country so pitifully surrendered to barbarians and savages under the guise of diversity and multiculturalism.
    He would be turning in his grave now if he could see this bullshit.
    
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    April 24, 2017 10:42am
  - calendar girl
    
    Well said, Shaun.
    
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    April 24, 2017 12:26pm
- Inandout
  
  The Minister of Immigration can’t overturn the ruling. This is unbelievable that an elected representative can’t (or won’t) have the final say. Mr Woodhouse must be wetting his pants on this one.
  
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  April 24, 2017 10:40am
- oldpark
  
  Same thing with my friends daughter,the guy raped her. His sentence a curfew and nine months councelling.He is was from the same persuasion,as the subject. Seems it is not so bad when they do it. Wonder where M/s Nicholls and M/s Devoy are on this. Maybe nothing suspicious here,move on.
  
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  April 24, 2017 11:21am
  - PhilBest
    
    Watch and listen to a bit of Tommy Robinson’s back story, and weep.
    
    It was complaining and rocking the boat about exactly this kind of stuff in his working-class neighbourhood, that got him quickly labelled by the establishment, as a Nazi racist. Which he obviously isn’t when you hear his side of the story.
    
    When he was looking for a defence lawyer a few years ago, he tried the guy who defended Jamie Bulger’s torturers and murderers, and the guy declined “because he couldn’t stoop so low as to defend Tommy Robinson”.
    
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    April 24, 2017 1:18pm
- Jack5
  
  The immigration system is rickety from the top down.
  
  We have a mediocre Minister who is only ranked mid-way in the Cabinet. Then we have an immigration service whose follies go back to the time that part-time local Thai employees in Bangkok were making decisions on which Middle-Easterners met security requirements for entry to NZ.
  
  The back stop is the pathetic Immigration and Review Tribunal.
  
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  April 24, 2017 11:51am
- calendar girl
  
  This is a disgrace. And it should be felt as a national (National?) embarrassment.
  
  Deportation must be the default consequence in such circumstances, unless or until determined otherwise – out in the open – by the responsible Minister. Non-contestable, discretionary decisions of such importance cannot be delegated to faceless Immigration officials.
  
  Will the “Herald” now pursue Minister Michael Woodhouse until the relevant laws are changed, materially, to reflect both common sense and the need for protection of the public? Of course not. Woodhouse will simply decline to comment “on the circumstances of a specific case” (if he comments at all), and will continue to sit on his hands. He strikes me as the archetypal Ministerial seat-warmer. Worryingly (for me) he is ranked 9th in the present Government, responsible for ACC, Immigration, and Workplace Health & Safety portfolios.
  
  But PM Bill English, to whom the public has shown much goodwill over his first 133 days in office, bears the ultimate responsibility for implementing effective change. I am anxious to see simple demonstrations from Mr English himself that, under his leadership, our Government will now begin to deal – in a much more effective manner – with serious crimes committed by immigrants (and deal also with correspondingly serious punishments).
  
  I’m looking – more in hope than in expectation – for Prime Ministerial-led governance in the national interest, not the usual balancing-act of Party politics in Election Year.
  
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  April 24, 2017 12:04pm
Monique Watson

What kind of muppets are working at Immigration NZ these days. Bleeding heart grads no doubt. Not deporting convicted sex offender Sultan Akbari holding residency only is a bit of a fuck up in anyone’s eyes.
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April 24, 2017 8:06am
- Northland Wahine
  
  It’s mind boggling Monique. Who ever signed this off should be named and made to explain to we plebs.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:14am
- EAD
  
  What kind of muppets are working at Immigration NZ these days
  
  I understand your frustrations Monique and Northland Wahine but you are still operating in the mindset that mass 3rd world immigration is occurring in all white countries around the world with the intent of being beneficial whereas all the evidence suggests it is in fact destroying Western Civilisation.
  
  Understand that and you will stop being so outraged at these “shocking judgements and errors”
  
  http://reasonradionetwork.com/20080821/letter-to-the-white-race
  
  It is why in France, if Le Pen loses, then I give my full support to ISIS to continue their attacks in Europe, as currently that’s all we have to wake the normies up from their stupor.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:49am
  - mikenmild
    
    LOL at EAD, the wannabe jihadist supporter.
    
    BTW, did you get around to substantiating your Churchill quote about ‘butchering the wrong pig’, other than the ludicrous claim that the debunking was orchestrated by Google?
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:53am
    - EAD
      
      https://mises.org/library/real-churchill
      
      PS: If you think I’m supporting ISIS by my words above you need your head read.
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:09am
      - mikenmild
        
        Just because an unsourced quotation appear on the Mises Institute website does not make it factual.
        Once again, please tell me when or where Churchill wrote or said that ‘we butchered the wrong pig’.
        
        Sorry for misinterpreting your words (‘I give my full support to ISIS’) as meaning that you give your full support to ISIS.
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:29am
      - stephieboy
        
        EAD, can you or Mises substsantiate this claim by them ,
        
        “During the Battle of Britain, Churchill gave perhaps his most famous speech, in which he plagiarized the French Premier Georges Clemenceau, and where he uttered his famous phrase “If the British Empire and its Commonwealth lasts for a thousand years, men will say, “This was their finest hour!”
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:30am
      - James Stephenson
        
        Churchill gave perhaps his most famous speech, in which he plagiarized the French Premier Georges Clemenceau,
        
        I think they’re confusing themselves. Churchill definitely re-wrote and improved a Clemenceau speech for “we shall fight them on the beaches…” but I’d probably say that’s the speech that ranks as his most famous so I’ll give them 4.5/10.
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:56am
    - Jack5
      
      Milky plays the B Western preacher and diverts the lynch mob.
      
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      April 24, 2017 11:58am
Monique Watson

Snap NW
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April 24, 2017 8:06am
Paulus

At last it has been confirmed by the Mayor of Whakatane that something like 40% of the flooded population of Edgecombe are uninsured.
Seems like our Bill will have to open your/our chequebook as was done in Christchurch (to billions of $) and Kaikoura to people who take no responsibility for their actions.
Sad for them but that the way most people live is by looking after themselves.
I can hear the crap it is too expensive.
I bet they still do Lotto and go to the pub regularly.
Now insurance may be be unobtainable as this is not the first time in recent years that insurers and EQC have had to pay for those insured.
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April 24, 2017 8:08am
- MCos
  
  40% is a staggering number of uninsured. I have a few questions.
  Is that typical throughout the country?
  This area has been flooded before. Have their premiums been hiked as a consequence?
  Do new policies cover flooding?
  They had an earthquake there too. Did that effect their premiums?
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:28am
  - Disaster Area
    
    If NZ insurance is anything like the UK, if there is a history of flooding in an area then getting flood insurance is either impossible or prohibitively expensive.
    
    There are quite a few people who found that out the hard way when they bought new houses on flood plains.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:40am
    - krazykiwi
      
      getting flood insurance is either impossible or prohibitively expensive
      
      Do you think they discovered this before they bought and went ahead anyway, or they didn’t bother find out at all?
      
      If insurance is impossible to get then guess what? Buying and living there is a really, really* bad idea. A lack of insurance provision is the cheapest form of risk evaluation.. it’s free!
      
      *Kimbo; Yes I know ….
      
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      April 24, 2017 8:53am
      - Disaster Area
        
        ‘Do you think they discovered this before they bought and went ahead anyway, or they didn’t bother find out at all?’
        
        Oddly enough, the property developers didn’t make a priority of mentioning it and I’m not sure that it would be covered by the standard due diligence.
        
        I suppose if someone told you that the site flooded once 500 years ago, would you be put off the purchase? However, it seems like 1 in 500 year type events seem to be happening every year these days…
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:18am
      - Kimbo
        
        No, deliberate overuse of adverbs for hyperbolic effect is not a breach of Kimbo’s law. Neither is the use of adverbs to achieve sarcasm. But I thank you for contributing, unprompted to making Kimbo’s law a meme ?
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:20am
    - peterwn
      
      And if a council tries to assist by noting this in LIM’s (relied on by home buyers) vendors could gang up to the the Council to court to stop the councils giving such warnings. Witness the fuss in Kapiti when the Council wanted to note on LIM’s etc that some areas were prone to coastal erosion.
      
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      April 24, 2017 8:55am
    - PhilBest
      
      Insurance for many properties around the fault-line area in central Wellington have taken a steep hike recently. Probably not before time, the risk has been under-priced all along.
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:09am
  - cmm
    
    What is not clear is this:
    
    Are 40% of the houses uninsured or is it 40% of the households don’t have contents insurance?
    
    Big difference.
    
    I’m picking that quite a few people in Edgecumbe do not own their own houses and while the houses themselves are insured, many do not have contents insurance.
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:08am
- krazykiwi
  
  Bailing out the uninsured encourages the already insured to ditch their cover and assume state benevolence.
  
  It is pavlovian conditioning, and sensible government wouldn’t go there.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:48am
  - fernglas
    
    EQC covers damage to land and the first $100k to the house, after which private insurance, if any, kicks in. If the flood damage is likely to cost less than $100k per house to fix, it doesn’t matter if they have private insurance
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:08am
    - marcw
      
      EQC cover only exists if you have your own insurance cover – no insurance, no EQC premium, no EQC cover.
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:39am
- alex Masterley
  
  There must be alot of people in Edgecumbe without mortgages then.
  Having replacement insurance with the mortgagees interest noted on the policy is a requirement of every mortgage document I have ever read.
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:25am
  - cmm
    
    That is why I think that number is mainly households without contents insurance rather than households without house insurance.
    
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    April 24, 2017 11:25am
  - PhilBest
    
    What are houses in Edgecumbe worth? Mightn’t quite a lot of people be mortgage free, and wouldn’t expect to get much for their house anyway if they tried to sell it?
    
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    April 24, 2017 1:40pm
    - cmm
      
      As a broad generalisation, I would think that people with the fiscal competence to pay a mortgage off are also going to take out insurance.
      
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      April 24, 2017 3:21pm
- trout
  
  re Christchurch the government did not ‘bail out the uninsured’; by creating a ‘red zone’ the Government effectively created conditions akin to compulsory aquisiton and a was forced to pay compensation to the uninsured. However the government DID bail out the insured clients of AMI.
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:33am
  - peterwn
    
    The difference being that the clients of AMI had responsibly insured their property with an established company and the bailout was partial only being the re-insurance shortfall. It was not as if they insured with a new cut price company.
    If Kiwibank fell over the government of the day would bail it out as political pressure would be immense. That is why Bill English would get shot of it if it were not for political sensitivities.
    
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    April 24, 2017 11:35am
    - MCos
      
      Something of a political can of worms these bailouts. The Sth Canty Finance bailout cost us $1.6billion (more than all the Treaty payouts I believe).
      
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      April 24, 2017 1:38pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Current settlements exceed $NZ3b and there’s no sign of the grievance industry accepting any notion of ‘full and final’ … so it will climb a lot higher.
        
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        April 24, 2017 8:11pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Blame the revisionist historians that convinced us that the SCF depositers had been hard done by.
        
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        April 24, 2017 8:18pm
    - Paulus
      
      The AMI fiasco was entirely the fault of an incompetent Board and Management in not doing enough due diligence of their financial risk.
      Bear in mind that AMI was a Mutual – that is owned by the policyholders – who should have been called upon to front up financially.
      That the Taxpayers picked up the shortfall is unacceptable (but political).
      
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      April 24, 2017 1:55pm
Happychappy

I wonder how Biscuit is feeling this morning after the EPL results overnight.
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April 24, 2017 8:15am
- pdm
  
  He will be grumpy – scousers don’t do losing – lol.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:33am
  - stephen2d
    
    They had now 4+ years of getting used to it! 🙂
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:44am
- Biscuit
  
  The cat hasn’t even BOTHERED trying to persuade me to feed it yet!
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:13am
  - pdm
    
    Obviously there is one cat lover on here this morning – hence the downtick.
    
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    April 24, 2017 10:02am
jp_1983

re: insurance – sometimes it is tempting to stop all my insurances and rely on give a little as my policy payout.

(however it is someting i wouldnt actually do)
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April 24, 2017 8:16am
- VicParking
  
  Why pay for insurance when others will GiveALittle from their taxes
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:35am
stephen2d

With the baby’s recent arrival, I had no time to complete the series of French presidential elections candidates, but will do so over the next few days.

As predicted, Macron and Le Pen are in the second tour and I still think Le Pen has a much better chance than what the media and agencies predict. Having said that, Macron has gone to the right quite a bit and therein lies his chance.
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April 24, 2017 8:17am
- mikenmild
  
  Macron possibly has the edge, running as a centrist technocrat not beholden to the two main parties. Demonstrably less extreme than Le Pen, who seems unlikely to attract as many votes from the supporters of the other eliminated candidates.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:21am
  - stephen2d
    
    Yes he has. Though the usual protesters are already out in some banlieus burning stuff and carrrying signs “ni banquier ni raciste”. Of course that’s the Mélenchon crowd who has just refused to endorse anyone.
    
    Finally, I will email a table of all their standings on various policies. Mélenchon and Le Pen very aligned (though not intentionally) and Fillon and Macron, too.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:51am
    - krazykiwi
      
      That table would be interesting. I suspect we’ll now see Macron and Le Pen move towards a centre. Each will be banking their hard-core support, while looking to churn some new support from the marginals.
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:37am
  - dime
    
    lol Macron has been groomed for years.
    
    that cunt is beholden to all sorts of evil fucks.
    
    lol @ centrist.
    
    no wonder the left think everyone on the right is “extreme far right”, when socialists are centrists in their world.
    
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    April 24, 2017 10:02am
- cmm
  
  Surely it is all just coming down to one issue: what are they going to do about immigrants?
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:23am
- krazykiwi
  
  Both Macron and Le Pen’s votes were lower than predicted with the Communist-backed Melenchon picking up 18.37% of the vote vs polling in single digits.
  
  I agree with milky, and think Macron will collect more of the second round votes .. but it’ll probably be very close.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:30am
- Huevon
  
  Unsurprisingly, the “conservative, right wing” candidate has fallen behind the establishment leftist. Comment dit-on “cuck” en Francais?They just don’t pretend anymore.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:41am
  - stephen2d
    
    Fillon was toast the moment Le Canard published their investigation and he then started bumbling with “conspiracy”, “it’s not true” to “I made mistakes”.
    
    Without that he would have been the new president without a doubt.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:47am
Nukuleka

Alerted by Kiwi Dave on another thread I went to the Education Council’s website to read the Draft Code of Professional Responsibility and Standards for the Teaching Profession. It is full of meaningless empty platitudes on the subject of ‘biculturalism’ and the Treaty. Pure doctrinaire mind control stuff. Frankly it is very worrying.

I encourage others to see just what the teaching profession is up to (encouraged by the government?) in attempting to socially engineer our country’s future through education. I doubt many will get too far through it before having to reach for the sick bag.

https://educationcouncil.org.nz/content/our-code-our-standards-draft-out-consultation
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April 24, 2017 8:22am
- mikenmild
  
  The education council is not controlled by the teachers. It is appointed by the government to regulate teachers.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:29am
  - PhilBest
    
    Depressing, a profession long since hijacked by the Long March Through the Institutions, is “regulated” by a body appointed either by explicitly lefty government, or by spineless virtue-signalling “centre right” squishes having their turn warming the government benches while continuing the left’s policy trajectory for them.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:36am
    - mikenmild
      
      Is the ‘Long March Through the Institutions’ a synonym for ‘Reds Under the Beds’?
      
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      April 24, 2017 8:46am
      - PhilBest
        
        Under the beds? They control the institutions, they are the editors, the journos, the show hosts, the quango appointees, the bureaucrats, the clergy, the teachers and professors, the Twitter, Facebook and Google moderators, etc etc.
        
        If anyone is “under the bed” now, it is conservative “fascists” and “racists”.
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:16am
      - mikenmild
        
        Oh, we are all communists now? Except for you and one or two other more enlightened people?
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:32am
  - VicParking
    
    Most are ex teachers or academics
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:36am
- Disaster Area
  
  Please do not think that this Code of Conduct has anything to do with classroom teachers.
  It should be noted that the council members are chosen by the Minister of Education and are NOT chosen by teachers, so this is down to Ms Parata.
  
  I would like to point out that the PPTA was against this from the outset. It didn’t want the re-vamp to the Teacher’s Council or the change from a Code of Ethics to a Code of Conduct.
  
  Have a look at section 7 (starts on page 8 of the download): http://ppta.org.nz/advice-and-issues/educanz-education-council-of-aotearoa-nz/showall/
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:54am
  - calendar girl
    
    Once an organisation describes itself as Aotearoa-NZ, it sets a course that is unlikely to find support from New Zealanders as a whole.
    
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    April 24, 2017 5:34pm
    - mikenmild
      
      It is a government organisati0n, btw.
      Although I find your objection to using an official language to describe our country rather odd.
      
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      April 24, 2017 5:40pm
      - Jack5
        
        Milky, when writing or speaking in English it is more correct to use “New Zealand,” and to use “Aotearoa” when writing or speaking in Maori.
        
        The fact is that many or most of the organisations that mix “Aotearoa” and “New Zealand” in their titles in English are Leftist multiculturists with a political agenda.
        
        There is no reason why they shouldn’t have Maori and English names, but mixing them in English is multiculturist propaganda.
        
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        April 24, 2017 7:54pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Who cares? If you object to organisations using te reo or sign language, just boycott them and rubbish them online.
        Monoculture rules Ok!
        
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        April 24, 2017 7:57pm
peterwn

I think Spark bungled its press release about the demise of the telephone switching network. Jane Bowron in the DomPost takes it as meaning that ordinary landline phones will be phased out in favour of cell phones. I doubt that was the intended scenario – I thought that landline phones would remain but operate via the UFB system. The UFB modems have a couple of phone jacks for that purpose but it seems from Spark’s comments they will not support phones with rotary dials including older alarm systems that ‘dial’ in that manner.
The other thing Jane assumed was that traditional landline phones were impervious to power failures. While larger phone exchanges have traditionally had standby generators, many landline phones now are routed via ‘cabinets’ and while these probably have some battery backup, they would run flat after several hours. Because Wellington City power supply is pretty reliable there do not seem to have been any noticeable incidents where landline phones have stopped working because of power failures (apart from cordless phones).
So while keeping a corded phone on hand is a sensible ‘civil defence’ measure, households also need to consider having a small solar panel with suitable adaptor for charging mobile phones and if possible the UFB modem.
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April 24, 2017 8:25am
- cmm
  
  Correct. The batteries in roadside cabinets only last 24 hours or so. After that, the phones die.
  
  There are less cell towers and it is easier to keep a few of them up and running for longer with generators etc. – a much more robust mechanism than landlines.
  
  “households also need to consider having a small solar panel with suitable adaptor for charging mobile phones”. Most people already have one or two huge generators and battery banks to do this: cars.
  
  A car is a much more effective charging device than trying to fiddle around with solar panels etc.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:51am
  - peterwn
    
    Until the car runs out of petrol although admittedly it would meet modest needs eg phones for several days if the tank is full.
    The telcos in Christchurch were generally successful in keeping cell sites going despite some rotter nicking a generator.
    The most resilient phone system is actually one using the old wind-up telephones as they were generally not dependent on mains power – ringing was by muscle power and the mouthpieces were energised by two jumbo size torch type batteries which lasted for months unless the customer was a real gas bag. The old NZ Electricity Department’s operational phone system was of this sort up to the late 1970’s (it operated NZ’s third largest telephone network after the Post Office and Railways).
    
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    April 24, 2017 11:48am
- James Stephenson
  
  You’re right and wrong, in that yes old PSTN technology is being replaced by VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) so your phone call will travel as data over the internet rather than you having an end-to-end line connected for your conversation, but wrong in that Spark have a mobile network and are looking for any way they can avoid reliance on UFB or Chorus’ copper so their preference would definitely be to sell you a completely mobile solution.
  
  I thought rotary dial pulse-dialing phones had already disappeared, but DTMF tone-dialing phones will be going now too.
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:50am
  - Jack5
    
    James Stephenson: but will the copper line from your home to the exchange still carry low voltage electricity and transmit your voice as analog? Will the sound then be converted to digital at the exchange?
    
    If not, won’t people need to change their home phones?
    
    One phone property in earthquake prone New Zealand became apparent during the Christchurch quakes. If your analog line-phone’s handset was designed to run on the voltage on the phone line rather than from batteries, you mostly could still phone around the country even when mains electricity had been cut.
    
    My understanding is that if electricity to exchanges, repeaters and so on is cut, phone services via the new fibre network will stop. Perhaps technical types can correct me on this.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:05pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep, the hubby reckons that we’ll all be doomed when the electrickery cuts out.
      http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/01/surprise-your-high-tech-home-phone-system-could-go-dead-in-an-emergency/index.htm
      
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      April 24, 2017 8:23pm
Stars And Stripes

Barefoot boy, 11, missing from Thames
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11843925
“Police say they are “very concerned” for a barefoot 11-year-old boy missing from Thames since yesterday”.

Would the police be less worried if he had shoes?.
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April 24, 2017 8:28am
Steve (North Shore)

Was watchingTV1 and TV3 this morning before 8. Had to turn the mind numbing dribble off. Not one of those shithead presenters bothered to wear an ANZAC Poppy.
Did see Phil Goff on 3, he was wearing a small poppy – that too is disrespectful considering his actions in the past. Commie bastard
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April 24, 2017 8:30am
- mikenmild
  
  Etiquette would surely be to wear a poppy on Poppy Day (last Friday) and Anzac Day itself.
  Anzac Day Eve is not yet an occasion for commemoration.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:32am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Of course one of the resident globohomos would pop up with a rationale to shirk wearing a poppy.
    
    #MakeNZGreatAgain
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:48am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    I would have thought anyone could show their respect on any one or all days Mike. Why make excuses for the shithead TV presenters?
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:01am
    - mikenmild
      
      When does one stop wearing the poppy? Should public figures wear one for all of ‘Anzac Week’?
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:09am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        The Poppy is usually laid in a sandbox next to the wreaths after the ANZAC Day Ceremony. Well that’s what happens at the Glenfield Hall on ANZAC Day.
        TV shitheads are not public figures in my opinion, they are just puppets of the left
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:22am
      - mikenmild
        
        I’m sure Mike Hosking and Paul Henry would agree with you. Probably burning poppies as we speak, before settling down to re-read Das Kapital.
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:34am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Some people do, it seems common by the Brits.
        
        For myself I have an enamel one permanently affixed to my ‘office’ jacket.
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:38am
    - stephieboy
      
      Steve ( N S ) , what qualifies you to wear one ?
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:32am
      - mikenmild
        
        Anyone can wear a poppy, dickhead. They are worn in remembrance, not as a demonstration of personal service.
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:35am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Crikey, things are getting desperate when even mikenmild calls stephieboy a dickhead.
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:12am
      - Disaster Area
        
        Personally I have an issue when the ‘remembrance’ turns into politically correctness.
        I couldn’t care less about politicians or public figures not wearing poppies, it’s when they feel that they have to wear them it annoys me.
        
        Just as a controversial point – I would much rather there be a focus on the legitimacy and morality of the conflicts with which troops are currently involved, rather than remembering an event which happened over 100 years ago and has little relevance to the 21st century.
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:31am
- holysheet
  
  The PM knows it well. He had a poppy on this morning.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:40am
- mikenmild
  
  How is Phil Goff wearing a poppy disrespectful?
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:08am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Very cute Mike, you know dam fucking well why
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:23am
    - stephieboy
      
      Again why ?
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:28am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:30am
      - stephieboy
        
        Steve ( NS ) , so you have not logical or rational reason why someone ,other than maybe your self , should be wearing one !
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:34am
    - mikenmild
      
      A you going to trot out the lies about the Vietnam War protest?
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:36am
      - mikenmild
        
        Do you think that, possibly, when Phil Goff wears a poppy he might be thinking about the death of his nephew in Afghanistan?
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:37am
    - cmm
      
      Phil Goff could make it respectful by making a groveling apology about his actions in his younger days.
      
      http://www.w3vietnam.org.nz/story_12.htm
      
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      April 24, 2017 9:40am
      - mikenmild
        
        But you don’t have any evidence that Goff was even there, let alone that he threw the red paint, do you?
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:46am
      - cmm
        
        I don’t have any evidence that Goff even exists (nor Churchill for that matter).
        
        According to a sycophantic interview in the Herald: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10744755 he was in the student Vietnam mobilisation committee. If so he would have been deeply involved in these protests. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:04am
      - stephieboy
        
        “I don’t have any evidence that Goff even exists (nor Churchill for that matter).” ?
        
        WOW ! How did you get to where you are now ?
        
        Thinking and debating Phil Goff makes me think of Trump and his five draft deferrals.
        
        Your thoughts ?
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:15am
      - mikenmild
        
        Even if Phil Goff was an active protester against the Vietnam War, how was that a bad thing, and how could him wearing a poppy be seen as disrespectful?
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:32am
      - Disaster Area
        
        Protesting against the Vietnam War was not a bad thing. The method of protest was.
        
        I was serving at the time of the marches against the second Iraq invasion. I had a lot more respect for the people who made their point peacefully than the professional soap-dodgers who were violent.
        
        If Goff threw the paint he should admit it and apologise. If someone else threw it, they should own up and apologise.
        
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        April 24, 2017 10:48am
      - cmm
        
        To protest against the war is one thing. To call the soldiers baby killers etc is another.
        
        To then pin on a poppy some years later without a retraction just looks like political expedience.
        
        Perhaps he didn’t personally throw paint. He was however on committees which organised those protests where paint was thrown.
        
        All he needs to do to clear that up is to pull a huge, genuine, “I’m sorry” to the people he abused.
        
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        April 24, 2017 11:20am
- jonar
  
  Hmm, it’s starting to feel like the defenders of freedom of choice think that it doesn’t apply to wearing the poppy. Is that correct?
  
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  April 24, 2017 1:06pm
PhilBest

Front page of the DomPost this morning; a seriously high percentage of the capital’s houses are affected by borer, rot, damp, etc etc.

This is another symptom of dysfunctional property markets, distorted by the urban planners and the land racket they have created. In healthy, median-multiple-3 housing markets, the rate of demolition and renewal of the housing stock clears out all this old rubbish. Replacement averages around “every 50 years” under these conditions; Japan is the outlier on the low side, something like 30 years.

When you are paying half a million to a million dollars for something on the verge of falling down, you don’t have any spare money to fix anything, let alone build a new house. All the distortion is in the land values, saying that “houses are double or triple what they should cost” obscures the reality that urban land is 20 to 30 times more expensive than it should be.

John Stewart (2002) estimated that the UK urban property markets are so dysfunctional thanks to 6 decades of the kind of urban planning that we have insanely copied more recently, that new houses built now will need to last 1000 years, because they are unlikely to be replaced before then.
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April 24, 2017 8:44am
- VicParking
  
  Maybe negative mass is the issue
  http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39642992
  Also found in a few heads around here
  
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  April 24, 2017 10:20am
- Ed Snack
  
  Well, it takes a hell of a long time for borer to actually start to make a house unliveable. I’ve had plenty of houses with Borer and only in one was there visible damage when a floor board (sap-wood rimu) broke and created a hole which had to be repaired.
  
  Borer is endemic, can be controlled by “borer bombs” and by topical paint on type treatments, but they only last so long. Interestingly that house of mine had Rimu flooring, a mixed bag of heart and sap wood, and the heart wood appeared immune to borer but the sapwood was riddled with it. The Kauri framing and weatherboards also had some borer but not as badly as the floor boards.
  
  Trouble is, those old timber houses can be damned attractive and nice to live in, so people like to keep them. In a lot of areas older houses are fully or partially protected so it can be quite hard to replace them.
  
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  April 24, 2017 10:34am
  - Viking2
    
    A bit of a joke really. Those houses were like that 60 years ago and they still stand. Same for earthquakes. How many got shaken to bits like all the modern design buildings?
    One should look at the Old Govt Building which used to be the biggest wooden building in the southern hemisphere. IT remained unaffected by the latest earthquakes that have toppled a dozen other buildings downtown Wellington.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Government_Buildings,_Wellington
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:41pm
Captain Mainwaring

So the Hutt Valley aquifer is contaminated with e-coli and the bureaucrats are scratching their heads.
Hey, bureaucrats, this is how common sense works:
There was a big earthquake. There are old sewer mains under the ground. They will be broken and the sewerage is leaching down into the aquifer.
Now get to work, find the leaks and fix them.
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April 24, 2017 8:50am
- mikenmild
  
  Having solved that easy problem, I’m looking forward to you explaining exactly what dark matter is. It’s a bit harder, so you can take all morning to work it out.
  
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  April 24, 2017 8:57am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    So the bureaucrats’ representative has spoken.
    Dark matter is the stuff between your ears.
    Got other things do do with the rest of my morning.
    
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    April 24, 2017 9:06am
- Callum
  
  You forgot to blame dairy cows.
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:08am
- wiseowl
  
  That is not common sense Captain.
  If the aquifer is confined it would be most unlikely that anything could leak in to the aquifer.
  Even if unconfined highly unlikely.
  
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  April 24, 2017 6:10pm
krazykiwi

The UN Economic and Social Council voted late last week to place Saudi Arabia on the Commission on the Status of Women for a four-year term beginning in 2018, despite that country’s appalling record on the treatment of women.

UN Watch director Hillel Neuer has calculated that at least 5 EU countries would have needed to support this appointment.

Utterly disgraceful.

It’s high time we stopped sending taxpayer money to this club of despots and dictators.
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April 24, 2017 9:03am
tf78

I would love to see what Auckland would look like now had John Palino had been elected over six years ago. We could be halfway towards living in our satellite cities not staring down the barrel of bankruptcy.
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April 24, 2017 9:07am
- PhilBest
  
  Urban sprawl is a rational solution to a lot of problems, and need not be inherently a source of problems in itself.
  
  All the US cities that are comparable to Auckland in population (Kansas City, Austin, Indianapolis, Nashville, Richmond, etc) are around half or less Auckland’s population density – i.e. they spread out over double or more the surface area. They also have 3 to 5 times the motorway and arterial space.
  
  Employment is dispersed on a similar pattern to Auckland or even more so. Congestion delays are only a fraction as bad, travel speeds are higher, and average trip to work times are comparable even though some people might be travelling a little further. But travelling a little further is a discretionary choice, because housing prices are 1/3 of Auckland’s and it is easy to afford an efficiently located home, rather than being forced out to Thames or Wellsford.
  
  If they consume more energy, it is explainable entirely because energy costs so much less, it is nothing to do with urban form being “inefficient”. Their petrol taxes are so low, and the biggest selling private vehicles are V8 pickup trucks.
  
  But lovers of Central Planning are incapable of getting their heads around the concept that “pricing” and fiscal incentives actually achieve results quickly and efficiently, in contrast to the micro-management of citizens lives by enlightened and omnipotent Planners, which is the only “solution” that is ever on the table.
  
  It is ludicrously expensive to try and retrofit capacity to Auckland’s transport networks now that the surface space is “built out” anyway. Many times more lane-miles can be had for the same dollar cost, if a new grid is simply whacked out on greenfields for dozens of miles in several directions.
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:31am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Making Auckland Great Again
  
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  April 24, 2017 9:33am
  - VicParking
    
    When was Auckland ever great. Evan the old old Auckland Council was a dogs breakfast.
    However At least with Robbie they had a Mayor with vision
    
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    April 24, 2017 10:24am
    - PhilBest
      
      Another advantage of the pre-super-city model, was that some of the councils, eg Papakura, were less arseholic to deal with, and hence growth was better catered for at least “somewhere”.
      
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      April 24, 2017 1:12pm
    - tf78
      
      We used to have borough council’s which looked after each suburb – I thought it worked comparatively well.
      
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      April 25, 2017 9:52am
wreck1080

Immigration NZ s an evil organisation…. their actions speak louder than any words they may utter.

Kicking out people coming here for good reasons (remember the family nanny that was jailed and deported because she was accompanying a rich family, and the young south american girl who was deported because she said she might babysit for her relatives)…….

But, ok to be a sex offender .

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11837608

On what basis can they be so cruel to good people who really aren’t breaking the law, and so generous to terrible people?

I can only presume that the collective group called immigration is evil.

I was just talking about the craziness of the modern world with the kids the other day, good people are punished while the bad are rewarded. And, there is nothing one can do about it.

A couple of recent examples, the female teachers at a palmy high school who were sexually abused by students — the teachers had to leave the school while these so called students were allowed to remain.

The recent school rugby trip, where team members assaulted another such that the other could not even play. The ‘coach’ stood down the hurt boy and allowed the offenders to play. Something to do with they had to have a chance to argue their case and it was difficult to replace team members at short notice.

Awful!
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April 24, 2017 9:51am
Nookin

A month or so ago, having decided that there was no prospect of finding any intelligent life on morning television, I decided that I would not engage in any more futile time wasting activities like turning on the TV before the 6 p.m. news. This post is motivated by anger at having broken the rule today and a sleepless night.

The AM show had a poll on how many people were going to take a sickie and really enjoy a long weekend. I think at one stage it was up to 26 percent. Duncan Garner thought it was a great joke. He said “I love it, we are a nation of shysters”.

Said Duncan had previously counselled would be “shysters” to make sure that they stayed off social media and were aware that they should get medical certificates if required.

Well, Duncan, I am an employer. I am one of those countless average New Zealanders who have to work their butt off to make a living while people like you applaud dishonest employees who have no compunction about letting their boss down and letting their fellow workmates down by lying and think it is all a great joke.
Fcuk you.

Then we had Lloyd Burr running around the “Remarks” looking for Inspector Clouseau lookalikes. This is the second time I have seen him making a joke of the whole situation. Point number one, Lloyd: they are the “Remarkables”. I think it is significant that you left off “ables” because “able” you most certainly are not.

Rather than mock the security measures, perhaps, Duncan, your show might be prepared to offer a serious overview of the works of the intelligence network given, for example, that we have a madman threatening nuclear warfare at the drop of a hat and religious zealots running over people, shooting people, stabbing people, blowing people up and cutting off the heads every 10 minutes.
I guess you have a major issue with the term “intelligence network”.
Fcuk you again.
There, I feel much better now and can get on with the day.
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April 24, 2017 9:59am
- VicParking
  
  Duncan is a turd. No more to be said.
  
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  April 24, 2017 10:27am
  - Lance
    
    Indeed he may be a turd
    Not sure the descriptor for TV1 Breakfast hosts though?
    Explosive diarrhea?
    
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    April 24, 2017 10:41am
- alex Masterley
  
  Back at work here after a week off.
  4 of the staff away though.
  Quiet.
  Might go home early.
  
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  April 24, 2017 11:11am
- Fletch
  
  As far as shysterism goes – New Zealand must be one of the few countries where there is no news during the day during weekends (presumably the newsreaders want the day off), and for two months every day over Christmas. Surely there must be junior readers and production staff who would relish the opportunity to do this.
  
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  April 24, 2017 11:53am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Not to mention the taking down of pedophile networks, child porn rings, large scale drug shipments and other assorted criminal activities the security intelligence agencies get little credit for.
  
  No doubt it would pain Dunkin to know PM Clark was well regarded as the minister in charge of the GCSB during her terms.
  
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  April 24, 2017 12:06pm
Inandout

The UK has PM May, the US has Trump, France has Le Pen and Aussie has Hanson. Their voters had distinct alternatives but here in the land of the long white, we have a blancmange candidate menu. How can English sleep straight in bed when his Immigration people make atrocious decisions regarding kiddie fiddlers?
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April 24, 2017 10:16am
- VicParking
  
  Bill will be back milking cows in October
  
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  April 24, 2017 10:28am
  - Inandout
    
    Boy, did Key get out just in time. The Good Ship National seems to be rudderless.
    
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    April 24, 2017 10:44am
Steve (North Shore)

No sickies here Nookin. On annual leave today, and the 4 days last week. My partner and I had this organised beginning of Feb
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April 24, 2017 10:27am
- VicParking
  
  Gave my team the day off with pay today. Mind you we are all on the pension.
  
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  April 24, 2017 10:29am
VicParking

The failing newspapers subsiduary in Whanganui has a headline: Whanganui’s rental crisis worst in decades:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=11840328

Its only when you get to the bottom of the article do you find out that its caused by first home buyers snapping up all the housing leaving nothing to rent.
Why is not the headline “First home buyers in Whanganui at an alltime high”. No thats a good news story and will go against the MSM negative policy.
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April 24, 2017 10:50am
- Keeping Stock
  
  The Wanganui Chronicle has a long history, under successive editors, of seeing a cloud in every silver lining. They subscribe to the “If it bleeds, it leads” school of journalism.
  
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  April 24, 2017 10:59am
  - Longknives
    
    I upticked you KS just for your correct spelling of ‘Wanganui’!
    
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    April 24, 2017 11:15am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Me too.
      
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      April 24, 2017 1:41pm
    - calendar girl
      
      Me too. It’s a welcome return to his previous spelling habits.
      
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      April 24, 2017 6:04pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUCKLAND AUCTIONS TANK & GOVT PANICS WITH KIWIBUILD-LITE …

Sales rate nudges 50% at some Barfoot & Thompson auctions but only just gets above 10% at the Manukau auction | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/87256/sales-rate-nudges-50-some-barfoot-thompson-auctions-only-just-gets-above-10-manukau

National Party Panic …

KiwiBuild – Lite … Will Gerry Brownlee of Christchurch Central / CERA fame head this up ? …

National is gearing up to announce a big Auckland housing plan. It has been dubbed ‘KiwiBuild-lite’, but even that implies too wide a gap from Labour … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/87240/national-gearing-announce-big-auckland-housing-plan-its-been-dubbed-kiwibuild-lite

They’ve been dubbed KiwiBuild and KiwiBuild-lite.

But even that description of the difference between Labour’s and National’s state-led private house building plans might imply the gap is too wide.

Particularly when it comes to Auckland.

New Zealand’s two main parties are each promising to build tens of thousands of houses on Crown land in Auckland to sell into the private ‘affordable’ market over the next decade.

Both will use the threat of government building as leverage to try and force private land bankers to get a move on with residential development. … read more via hyperlink above …

Access yesterday’s Kiwiblog extensive postings …

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/04/general_debate_23_april_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1915265
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April 24, 2017 10:51am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Govt Ministerial responsibility for house building programmes shifted to Amy Adams from Nick Smith as PM English reshuffles Cabinet … Interest Co NZ …
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/87264/govt-ministerial-responsibility-house-building-programmes-shifted-amy-adams-nick
  
  … with Labours Phil Twyford responding …
  
  ‘Shifting the deckchairs on the Titanic’
  
  Labour Party housing spokesman Phil Twyford said the shift of responsibilities on to Adams was akin to “the orchestra playing on as National’s Titanic housing crisis slips below the waves – along with the hopes and dreams of countless Kiwi families.”
  
  National were in denial that there was a housing crisis, he said. “National’s housing policy won’t be saved by getting someone new to front it. The policy itself has been a total disaster.”
  
  “They are spending $100,000 a day putting homeless people up in motels. And The Economist magazine says Auckland has the most unaffordable housing in the world,” Twyford said. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  April 24, 2017 4:16pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “… with Labours Phil Twyford responding …
    ‘Shifting the deckchairs on the Titanic’”
    
    Shit that’s original. Must have been inspired by the continuous changes in Labour’s ‘leadership’.
    
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    April 24, 2017 5:14pm
Longknives

What’s a bet that following all this media coverage Sultan Abdullah Akbari will get Permanent Name Suppression next time he offends??
It’s horrendous to think that there will be most likely another child victim…and that we had an opportunity to prevent that happening now! (But for whatever bizarre reason…)
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April 24, 2017 11:19am
Southern Raider

UN has just appointed Saudi Arabia onto the gender equality committee
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April 24, 2017 11:50am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Oxymoron!!!
  
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  April 24, 2017 12:14pm
  - RalphT
    
    Oxymoron; and appointed by morons.
    
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    April 24, 2017 12:57pm
- Fletch
  
  I saw that. Hillel Neuer, from UN Watch, said, “Electing Saudi Arabia to protect women’s rights is like making an arsonist into the town fire chief”.
  
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  April 24, 2017 12:18pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Perhaps they think that the exposure would be good. I am surprised that they agreed.
    
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    April 24, 2017 12:32pm
    - Fletch
      
      UN Watch is not the UN. They are a watchdog group.
      
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      April 24, 2017 1:07pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Like appointing a paedophile to run the kindergarten………..
    
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    April 24, 2017 12:55pm
    - Inandout
      
      Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari could do that, no sweat. Immigration are probably arranging that job now, just finding the best kindergarten.
      
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      April 24, 2017 2:47pm
Manolo

Utmost lunacy that would make stephieboy proud:
http://thehill.com/policy/international/un-treaties/330149-saudi-arabia-elected-to-un-womens-right-commission

Saudi Arabia was elected to the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women.

The addition of the Gulf nation was first flagged by UN Watch, a nongovernmental body that monitors the United Nations. The Commission on the Status of Women’s main mission is to assess the challenges to reaching gender inequality, according to the U.N. website.
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April 24, 2017 1:04pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Well, I suppose women are equally likely to have their heads chopped off in Saudi Arabia.
  
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  April 24, 2017 2:34pm
Stars And Stripes

Mt Roskill dairy owner considers bankruptcy after robbery and attack
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=
“A badly beaten Auckland dairy owner may be forced to sell his business or declare bankruptcy after receiving disconnection notices threatening to cut his store’s power.
Jitesh Arora suffered severe injuries to his right arm as he heroically shielded his wife, Preeti Arora, during an early morning robbery at his Mt Roskill dairy on March 12”.

So some poor bastard is in danger of losing his business and livelihood because the government does not seem to give a toss about youths running riot robbing and terrorising shop owners.
Maybe if all the money they spent on cuddling(rehabilitating) this filth was spent on supporting the victims things might change for the better.
As for the degeneration of Mt Roskill in the space of thirty years or so into the complete shithole it is today, well every politician should be thoroughly ashamed of the part they played in that disaster.
A once proud suburb now on it’s knees.
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April 24, 2017 1:58pm
- Southern Raider
  
  And the Police are beyond useless
  
  There normal response is shop owners need to be more careful, close earlier or stop selling certain products
  
  No the shop keeper is doing a lawful activity to feed his family. Cops either do your bloody job which is catching crooks or support shop keepers in being able to shoot to kill
  
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  April 24, 2017 2:02pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I heard a police officer on the radio yesterday saying that shopkeepers are being provided with information resources.
    Then I thought great: when I am being bashed around the head with a softball bat information resources would be real helpful.
    WTF are information resources?
    
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    April 24, 2017 4:40pm
    - sooty
      
      You are ment to hold it over your head to soften the blow!
      
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      April 24, 2017 6:29pm
- Inandout
  
  In America it is a different story as regards shopkeepers being robbed.
  
  http://shanghaiist.com/2016/09/27/chinese_american_shopkeeper_shoots_intruder.php
  
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  April 24, 2017 2:55pm
Happychappy

Amy Adam’s new Housing Minister.
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April 24, 2017 3:33pm
- CrazyIvan
  
  And Mark Mitchell takes over Defence from the new Foreign Affairs minister
  
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  April 24, 2017 3:56pm
Steve (North Shore)

Still there Mike? Last comment from you that I can find is around 9am. You pulled a sickie, didn’t you?
Not that it matters, you do sweet fuck all, all day coz you are on here all day most of the time.
Going to the dawn parade in the morning?
Don’t forget to wear your Poppy son
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April 24, 2017 3:55pm
- mikenmild
  
  Are you talking to me?
  Not working today, but thanks for asking.
  I don’t go to dawn parades, generally – they are for the returned service people.
  Yes, I will wear my poppy if out and about tomorrow.
  Are the hemorrhoids still troubling you?
  
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  April 24, 2017 4:21pm
  - Longknives
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQkpes3dgzg
    
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    April 24, 2017 4:33pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    “Not working today”
    
    What’s new?
    
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    April 24, 2017 5:17pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      He don’t work any day Captain, he is just there for the internet transaction to his bank
      
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      April 24, 2017 5:42pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Yes, I will wear my poppy if out and about tomorrow.
    
    It is a holiday you fucking moron, you don’t need to get your lazy arse out of bed to get to the place you say you work.
    Stay in bed in case you should meet some ‘Returned Service People’
    You fucking arsehole – no respect
    
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    April 24, 2017 5:48pm
    - mikenmild
      
      You really should moderate your language.
      What I do on Anzac Day is up to me and is none of your business.
      Have you ever actually met any veterans? Or do you just feel smug wearing your poppy? See, I can question your respect too – that’s easy on this forum, isn’t it?
      
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      April 24, 2017 6:10pm
Stars And Stripes

“I don’t go to dawn parades, generally – they are for the returned service people”.

Where did you get that idea????.
People from all walks of life attend the dawn parades followed generally by a good old piss up at the local RSA.
Some also do a free breakfast which would probably be up your alley.
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April 24, 2017 4:34pm
- mikenmild
  
  Sorry, in my day the dawn parade was those who had served and the citizens had a service later in the morning. I’ve only been to a dawn parade 2 or 3 times for specific reasons.
  I’ve tended to avoid the RSA, for similar reasons.
  Not that anyone needs a special day to honour their service anyway.
  
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  April 24, 2017 4:43pm
MH

and pls wear the poppy over the left breast or lapel.
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April 24, 2017 4:46pm
- mikenmild
  
  Speaking of Anzac Day, a quick look at what’s on TV tomorrow will tell you which is easily the best channel in New Zealand.
  
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  April 24, 2017 4:50pm
  - Longknives
    
    “Speaking of Anzac Day, a quick look at what’s on TV tomorrow will tell you which is easily the best channel in New Zealand.”
    
    Care to Elaborate?
    
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    April 24, 2017 4:59pm
mikenmild

TV Anzac viewing tomorrow (for those who can’t look the schedule upfor themselves):
TVNZ 1 – 3 hours
TVNZ 2 – 0 hours
Three – 0 hours
Prime – 0 hours
Maori – 12 hours (plus two other war movies)
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April 24, 2017 5:23pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Then the shithead presenters will wear a Poppy
  
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  April 24, 2017 5:39pm
- Fletch
  
  It reminds me a bit of Easter. Back when I was a kid the networks at least attempted to put something religious on TV over Easter weekend, whether it was a rerun of Jesus of Nazareth, or maybe some Hollywood religious 1940’s blockbuster such as The Ten Commandments, The Robe or Ben-Hur. Now they don’t bother putting anything religious on at all – nothing.
  
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  April 24, 2017 5:42pm
  - mikenmild
    
    I can sympathise a little with that, but there is not exactly any dearth of Christian programming – three or four entire channels.
    
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    April 24, 2017 6:07pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Back when I was a kid the networks at least attempted to put something religious on TV over Easter weekend, whether it was a rerun of Jesus of Nazareth, or maybe some Hollywood religious 1940’s blockbuster such as The Ten Commandments, The Robe or Ben-Hur.
    
    The Gospel according to Cecil B DeMille? You do know he used to put pagan orgy scenes in his movies, including Los Angeles hookers in the cast and beat the censors on the basis “it’s in the Bible!”? 😉
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:11pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Oh yes, and the Bible Belt fundamentalists who were prostesting a few years ago about the removal of tablets of the Ten Commandments from local US court houses? Turned out the tradition didn’t go back to the Founding Fathers, but a publicity drive where Hollywood “gifted” them at the same time the movie “The Ten Commandments” was released.
      
      Have I also mentioned how much I hate hearing Jehovah intone in Elizabethan English as if it is more authoritative and spiritual?: “Speak unto Pharaoh and say unto him, ‘Thou shalt let my people go!'”.
      
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      April 24, 2017 8:24pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Next, you’ll be telling us that Charlton Heston didn’t part the Red Sea.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqCTq3EeDcY
      
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      April 24, 2017 8:29pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Not quite how ~~Charlton Heston~~ Moses did it. Hebrew: Yam Suph (יַם-סוּף) “Sea of Reeds”.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yam_Suph
        
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        April 24, 2017 8:36pm
  - mikenmild
    
    BTW – I love that gay subtext in Ben Hur. I didn’t get that when I was a kid, but it sure is hilarious.
    
    The director was hesitant (putting a homosexual love affair into a movie about Jesus is something no studio would do now, let alone back in the 1950s), but admitted it was a way better story than what they had and told them to go ahead with it. The filmmakers told Stephen Boyd (the actor who plays Messala) about the subplot, but Charlton Heston was kept utterly clueless because the director was convinced he’d “fall apart” if they told him. This is another way of saying that Charlton Heston could not bear the thought of pretending to be gay for a four-hour movie, so nobody told him that he was.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:12pm
    - Kimbo
      
      So let it be written, so let it be done! But Heddy Lamarr (who was a very clever woman and accomplished inventor, btw)
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr
      
      …was smokin’ hot as Delilah. Victor Mature…not so much for me ;). Like I said, Cecil B DeMille was very adept at beating the censors! 😉
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_and_Delilah_(1949_film)
      
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      April 24, 2017 8:19pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Didn’t she design a bombsight or something during the war?
        
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        April 24, 2017 8:21pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Yep.
        
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        April 24, 2017 8:26pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Oh, this is interesting, from the Wikipedia link about the movie, ‘Samson and Delilah’:
        
        DeMille’s legendary status led him to play himself in Billy Wilder’s film noir Sunset Boulevard.[25] The film is about a fictional silent film star named Norma Desmond (played by Gloria Swanson) who, no longer active, once worked as an actress for DeMille. For the scene in which Desmond visits DeMille at Paramount, an actual set of Samson and Delilah was reconstructed to show the director at work.[25] The first day scheduled to shoot the scene was May 23, 1949, months after filming on Samson and Delilah had ended.[25] After the scene was shot in a total of four days, Wilder patted DeMille on the back and humorously told him, “Very good, my boy. Leave your name with my secretary. I may have a small part for you in my next picture.”[25] Wilder later said that DeMille “took direction terrifically. He loved it. He understood it. He was very subtle.”[25]
        
        And ‘Sunset Boulevard’ ends with crazy Norma Desmond (Gloria Swanson) intoning the immortal line, “Mr. DeMille, I’m Ready for My Close-Up”
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMTT0LW0M_Y
        
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        April 24, 2017 8:33pm
nasska

….” Now they don’t bother putting anything religious on at all – nothing.”…..

And we’re all the richer for that!
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April 24, 2017 5:57pm
- Fletch
  
  No we’re not. Even if kids aren’t particularly religious they ought to know what is in the Bible. It is one of those things, such as Shakespeare, that is part of the culture and referenced all the time. If you don’t know then you come across as not very knowledgeable. It’s part of general knowledge.
  
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  April 24, 2017 6:07pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Fletch:
    
    If you don’t know [what is in the Bible] then you come across as not very knowledgeable.
    
    Bugger – you’ve just squashed any hope I had of making it onto Kimbo’s pub quiz team!
    
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    April 24, 2017 6:20pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I know that it’s filled with stories of violence, cruelty and oppression, egged on by a monstrous deity who issues loads of contradictory advice. Would I qualify as educated?
      
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      April 24, 2017 6:28pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Mikenmild:
        
        Would I qualify as educated?
        
        It depends – are you asking Fletch or Nasska?
        
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        April 24, 2017 6:33pm
      - nasska
        
        Personally, I reckon Mike has most of the basics well covered.
        
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        April 24, 2017 6:37pm
      - Fletch
        
        On the contrary – it is the greatest love story ever written down.
        
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        April 24, 2017 6:41pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I actually agree somewhat with Fletch – a basic knowledge of the Bible and its absurdities is an important component of education. All school leavers should have a basic understanding of how Catholics, Anglicans, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, Mormons, Baptists, Quakers, Jehovah’s Witnesses, AoGs, and all the rest have got it so wrong and only Brian Tamaki really understands what the Bible says.
        
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        April 24, 2017 6:42pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        The issue will settle itself in time as we will all be learning Islam if the progressives get their way.
        
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        April 24, 2017 6:48pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        I know that it’s filled with stories of violence, cruelty and oppression, egged on by a monstrous deity who issues loads of contradictory advice
        
        Yeah, I think the same thing when I read the beatitudes, or …
        
        Finally, brothers and sisters,
        whatever is true,
        whatever is worthy of respect,
        whatever is just,
        whatever is pure,
        whatever is lovely,
        whatever is commendable,
        if something is excellent or praiseworthy,
        focus on these things.
        
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        April 24, 2017 8:22pm
      - nasska
        
        Polyanna!
        
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        April 24, 2017 8:36pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Juxtaposition!
        
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        April 24, 2017 9:40pm
  - Reid
    
    Sadly Fletch the distractions of modern life have been well designed. It’s interesting you don’t see the same when you leave Western “civilisation” but amongst Western “civilisation” the distractions are ubiquitous.
    
    You’d think this simple demonstrable observation about the world would give some of them a clue wouldn’t you, but the distractions rule and replace all of their senses, including the common.
    
    All part of the plan Fletch. As you know.
    
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    April 24, 2017 8:05pm
Stars And Stripes

Immigration New Zealand powers curbed after non-deportation decision for repeat sex offender
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=
“”So I am temporarily suspending Immigration NZ’s decision making authority until I have confidence that the decisions being made are consistent with my expectations.
Woodhouse said he would likely return the decision making authority to Immigration NZ within a fortnight, as long as he could be assured the process would align with his expectations”.

Sorry those are weasel words and I for one have no faith in your department at all.
Bunch of spineless hand wringers.
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April 24, 2017 6:18pm
- Reid
  
  If he wasn’t planning on changing anything he probably wouldn’t have said anything, I would have thought.
  
  Why do you think Immigration is broken BTW?
  
  We’re getting what the politicians have decided we get.
  
  It’s not Immigration’s fault they’re obeying orders, is it.
  
  What gets me is the lack of transparent numbers on who, where from, and why are we allowing them in.
  
  And that’s deliberate.
  
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  April 24, 2017 7:18pm
  - Reid
    
    From the politicians. To keep us in the dark about the future makeup of our own fucking country.
    
    And tell me this hasn’t been happening since the 90’s.
    
    So it’s a bipartisan consensus not to announce such, isn’t it.
    
    And who of us asked them to do that? And when?
    
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    April 24, 2017 7:24pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    I have had dealings every now and again with Immigration NZ for a variety of reasons and they are one of the worst government departments for employing people who are basically useless but tick boxes because they are Indian, Chinese or whatever characteristic they were looking for.
    This why I say they are broken because they don’t appoint the best people available to them if they happen to be the wrong colour.
    
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    April 24, 2017 7:34pm
    - Reid
      
      They’re our interface to the world and it therefore makes sense to employ those who relate to the markets. You would know I assume of the recent news reports about their withdrawing their processing centres which I assume is cost. How it will work out I don’t know since eyes on the ground are invaluable.
      
      One of the issues of course is the moron sheeple bleeding heart fools who make up a significant proportion of the dumbfucks in this country, think it’s just great to encourage all sorts of under qualified losers to come here just cos they live in a shithole. But there’s another force which keeps such bleeding-heart dumbfuckery at bay by keeping the overall numbers at tolderable levels – unlike e.g. Europe where they’ve all gone completely mental.
      
      But quite frankly mate, the politicians are the one’s we need to aim at. For instance, National with its Asian invasion of Auckland which has changed everyone’s lives forever through the fact no young person without substantial parental help to the extent to which it would reduce said parent’s retirement lifestyle, can possibly afford to buy, they’re lifelong renters. It’s that sort of unconsulted change for which politicians need to be told, unacceptable.
      
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      April 24, 2017 7:48pm
- Inandout
  
  Woodhouse is a McCully in the making.
  
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  April 24, 2017 7:18pm
rightoverlabour

I see there is outrage over this, jail time being threatened etc, but our dear rapist above does not get deported. Something seriously wrong with our priorities here. (Not that I am in favour of shooting threatened birds)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/91883375/department-of-conservation-furious-after-rare-falcon-shot-dead-on-the-kapiti-coast
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April 24, 2017 7:42pm
- mikenmild
  
  I think you will find more than enough outrage at Kiwiblog to satisfy anyone’s expectations.
  
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  April 24, 2017 7:48pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  “But the birds were a sign of a healthy ecosystem and their presence should be celebrated”.
  
  “But the immigrants were a sign of a healthy society and their presence should be celebrated”.
  
  This sort of language ring bells?.
  Seems all the gov’t departments are singing off the same hymn sheet.
  
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  April 24, 2017 7:48pm
nasska

My new neighbour knocked on my door today, an old Afghan man.

“Hello my neighbour, my friend.” He said in broken English, handing me a parcel. “A gift for you from me.”

I opened up the package to find a handmade blanket, created from hundreds of tiny, misshapen pieces of fabric stitched perfectly together. It was a stunning example of craftwork. “Oh my lord, this is beautiful, Hameer.” I said. “You have an amazing talent.”

“Thank you.” He replied. “Learned from my employ at home in Afghanistan.”

“Quiltmaking?”

“Rucksack repair.”
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April 24, 2017 8:31pm
Manolo

It would thrill our resident Muslim and Mt Roskill voyeur:
http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21721154-search-mainstream-markets-muslim-textile-designers-are-pushing

Islamic fashion websites can be pretty drab. KhaleejiAbaya.com, an outlet based in Teesside, North England, plies its selection of faceless black coverings under the somewhat overstated slogan “effortlessly elegant”.

Alongside, its website carries a health warning on the “dangers of al-tabarruj”, the impermissible exposure of beauty. Defying such prudishness, leading Muslim designers recently took part in London Fashion Week, a global showcase of threads, to prove that what they called “Modest Fashion” could be as sleek as a bedtime story from a Thousand and One Nights.
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