General Debate 19 April 2017

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Keeping Stock

Better late than never, I guess.

Perhaps you need to pay higher wages DPF 😎
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April 19, 2017 9:18am
- Lucia Maria
  
  His fairy godmother helped him out this time. We do our work for free! 😛
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:53am
Dafixeruppa

Lol, you just wanted the first slot
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April 19, 2017 9:19am
mikenmild

I had something much more substantial to say, but it doesn’t matter now.
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April 19, 2017 9:23am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Dont be shy mikey, come on, you know you want to.
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:25am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  You just don’t want the first downtick Mike
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:31am
kowtow

“The Hastings resident, who is using the pseudonym Helen to protect her former stepchildren, is speaking out to draw attention to the ”second sentence” families face.”

Criminals need to think about the consequences their actions have on their own families .
Meaningful sentencing would reduce crime and protect the law abiding public.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/thesis-highlights-effects-imprisonment-families
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April 19, 2017 9:26am
- holysheet
  
  Bullshit. Who of these ferals reports to the cops, their partners/kids when they come home with the loot from a stint of burglary?
  If they did so the burglaries would be non existent.
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:59am
- Longknives
  
  Sent to Prison for a almost a year for Assault.
  One suspects it was not his first Tango with the Police?
  If not- It was a bloody nasty Assault…
  
  Care factor- Very, Very low for this moaning Woman…
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:09am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  She sent him $50 a week for phone cards and cigarettes?
  That money came straight out of the children’s mouths and it sounds like more went on cigarettes than phone cards.
  The kids might miss daddy, but daddy he don’ give a shit.
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:25am
- G152
  
  Just dont break the law.
  That simple act will make sure that the jails are empty, families will not suffer and dairy owners will be a lot safer
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:54am
kowtow

“Almost 8,300 asylum seekers rescued in Mediterranean
At least eight, including pregnant woman and child, died trying to cross the Mediterranean over Easter weekend.”

Europe needs to take action to save itself from this mass migration.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/8300-asylum-seekers-rescued-mediterranean-170417155412020.html
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April 19, 2017 9:27am
- VicParking
  
  They dont cross the Mediterranean. They sail of till their in cell phone range of the NGO ships and cry help. In a lot of photos you can still see the African coast in the background.
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:34am
  - cmm
    
    They sail until they out of the African territorial waters (three miles or whatever) into the “high sea” where the NGO ships can pick them up, then scuttle their boats.
    
    If the NGOs picked them up inside territorial waters they would be legally required to take them back to Africa.
    
    However because they do this in the “high seas” the ship has European sovereignty so they are treated as if they turned up in Europe.
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:59am
cmm

Perhaps if they actually served their “first sentences” people might think they have paid their debt to society.
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April 19, 2017 9:28am
stephieboy

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Gotta laugh at this latest piece of Trump and Whitehouse ineptitude and incompetence ( or is it again, just simply lying ? )

“Surprise: US Carrier Nowhere Near N. Korea
USS Carl Vinson is still thousands of miles away”

“(NEWSER) – If the USS Carl Vinson is supposed to be near the Korean peninsula sending an ominous signal to North Korea, nobody informed the USS Carl Vinson. Despite a slew of reports suggesting that the aircraft carrier was in the area, or about to be, a report at Defense News reveals the reality: The Vinson is currently about 3,500 miles away, taking part in military exercises with the Australian navy south of Singapore. That’s not to say the carrier won’t get to the Korean peninsula, but even if it left now and traveled at its top speed, it would take four to five days, reports Stars and Stripes. Defense officials tell CNN that things won’t happen that quickly: They expect the Vinson and its strike group to arrive off the Korean peninsula around the end of the month…”

http://www.newser.com/story/241467/surprise-us-carrier-nowhere-near-n-korea.html

The carrier will take at least 10 days to arrive there. The joke surely must be on Pyongyang .
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April 19, 2017 9:30am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  It is not in the public interest for them to know stupid boy.
  Why tell the enemy where you are, or are not?
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:43am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Steve ( NS) , a new primer from the POTUS’s Alternative Battle Strategy and Tactics ?
    
    LOL
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:09am
- holysheet
  
  When I first heard on the news this morning of a shooting in Mt Roskistan this morning, I said to Mrs holy it looks like stupidboy has pissed off a father of daughters who reported him for perving at them in the local mall. Alas it wasn’t to be as he’s still here posting his usual shit.
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:03am
  - stephieboy
    
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    holyturd, so you think sending the Carl Vinson in the oppoisite direction and a month away makes perfect sense ?
    
    Yeah Right !
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:11am
  - VicParking
    
    Out on bail??
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:35am
    - holysheet
      
      Not that quick surely?
      he would need to get an interpreter to translate his shit into english. All at a cost to the taxpayer of course.
      
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      April 19, 2017 11:41am
Happychappy

Winston not saying much must so busy organizing all those queries for membership from the deluded National Party members on Kiwiblog.
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April 19, 2017 9:31am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I seem to have read one or two comments here from your happy self that have been less than 100% supportive of the regime under the steady stewardship of our Bill, or have I got that wrong?
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:50am
  - Happychappy
    
    You obviously have me wrong I am a loyal National having voted for them for over 45 years and think Bill is doing a good job but it is hard to keep everyone happy as you well know just reading K/B. The post above was a dig at Winston and the disenchanted on K/B and I believe that Winston will not choose to go with National so if we lose the Election I certainly don’t want any of the other thee running this Country but it will be what it will be.
    
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    April 19, 2017 11:03am
    - Random T Person
      
      There should be no place for voter loyalty in politics. I cast my ballot for John Key last time (and Mark Mitchell as I was in his electorate) but National won’t see me this time round.
      
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      April 19, 2017 12:40pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        So you obviously want the coalition from Hell.
        Have another think about what you’re wishing on the rest of us.
        
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        April 19, 2017 1:19pm
- stigie
  
  Nah, Winston is up in Northland working hard for his constinuance..?
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:12am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Pubs open then
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:37am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Pass me a Tui…
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:38am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      I would KS but Winnie is drinking them as fast as I can pour ’em
      
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      April 19, 2017 12:55pm
- G152
  
  It would appear that the crew on whale oil are heading over that way
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:56am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Slater has a deep seated hatred of English and the crew will follow him anywhere.
    
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    April 19, 2017 11:31am
cha

Turns out Trump’s first attempt at dick swinging…

Trump on North Korea, a week ago: “We are sending an armada. Very powerful…” pic.twitter.com/Gyd6vnuurx— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) April 18, 2017

….was a pink pencil fluttering in the wind

WASHINGTON — As worries deepened last week about whether North Korea would conduct a missile test, the White House declared that ordering an American aircraft carrier into the Sea of Japan would send a powerful deterrent signal and give President Trump more options in responding to the North’s provocative behavior.

The problem was, the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the four other warships in its strike force were at that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/world/asia/aircraft-carrier-north-korea-carl-vinson.html
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April 19, 2017 9:32am
- stephieboy
  
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  cha, sailing in the opposite direction. That takes the cake .
  
  The Commander in Chief needs to receive a demotion or a court martial .
  
  Wonder if the Nukes are also facing in the opposite direction targeting the UK and EU ?
  
  What a farce !
  
  LOL
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:37am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE
    
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    April 19, 2017 9:46am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE
    
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    April 19, 2017 9:52am
- Dave Mann
  
  That fucking lying asshole Trump can’t ever be relied upon to tell the truth, even with a situation as serious as North Korea.
  
  America is in big trouble. I’m not a leftie SJW but you don’t have to be socialist to realise that this man has got some serious personality defects and/or mental health issues which make him totally unfit to be the President.
  
  God help America if they face a real and immediate threat or crisis. How would anybody believe that this creep has their best interests at heart or even has a clue what to do?
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:52am
  - Dave Mann
    
    I’m sorry to go on about this….. but let me add that everybody must have known that this lie is totally unsustainable by any sane person. What the fuck was this man thinking? He must have known that the reality of the Vinsen’s actual position is the total opposite to what he has said and that the world would see this. This is not a clever game of bluff….. it’s the mad action of a man who genuinely is disconnected from objective reality.
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:06am
    - cha
      
      it’s the mad action of a man who genuinely is disconnected from objective reality.
      
      It’s a symptom.
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:14am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Thank you. I find it amazing that so many people here on this blog actually can’t see what a sick puppy this Trump character is.
        
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        April 19, 2017 10:21am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Remind me again what the alternative to Teump was
        
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        April 19, 2017 10:40am
      - GoVege
        
        We know he’s sick Dave, but the obese uncle-killer in NK is way worse.
        The yanks should try and take out his nuclear capability before it’s too late.
        
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        April 19, 2017 12:17pm
    - Scott
      
      Let’s not endanger our already fragile mental health by worrying unduly about the position of the United States warship that we previously have never heard of. It is heading towards North Korea and is expected to be there at the end of April.
      
      “The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson and its strike group will arrive off the Korean Peninsula at the end of April, multiple US defense officials tell CNN.”
      
      http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politics/aircraft-carrier-vinson-location-korea-indonesia/
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:21am
    - Kimbo
      
      To be fair, Nixon and Kissenger ran the “mad man” variation of “good cop/bad cop” effectively during the early 1970s.
      
      Each weekend Kissenger would fly to Paris unobserved for secret peace talks with the North Vietnamese.
      
      Each weekend the North Vietnamese would filibuster and stall and fake seizures and argue and dispute about shit like the shape of the table to avoid commencing serious negotiations.
      
      Each time Kissenger would tell them, “you don’t understand. I’ve got this crazy bastard back in the White House. It’s taking all of my persuasive powers to stop him wiping Hanoi off the map. You’ve got to give me some concessions so I can swing him to be more amenable to your demands…”
      
      Each weekend the North Vietnamese would give the diplomatic version of “fluck you and fluck Plesident Nixon!”
      
      Each Monday, back in the Oval Office Kisssenger would give his report and Nixon and Kissenger both decide together where they were going to bomb that week to give the impression the President was indeed a “mad man”.
      
      And then next weekend, Kissenger would turn up again in Paris, with the message, “you don’t understand. I’ve got this crazy bastard back in the White House….”
      
      But Nixon did have a long term strategy, that saw him obtain “peace with honour” in Vietnam, triangulate successfully between the Soviets and Chinese, make the opening to China via Pakistan, and also negotiate detente and the SALT agreement with the Soviets. Whatever his poker-playing abilities, I don’t get the impression Trump has given his objectives too much thought and he is making it up as he goes along. But I could be wrong and time will tell…
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:23am
      - Dave Mann
        
        That was diplomacy, intrigue and bluff. This is quite different; it’s a blatant lie that is totally transparent for the world to see as a lie.
        
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        April 19, 2017 10:42am
      - Tirebiter
        
        Are you sure you aren’t confusing the stalling by ‘table shape’ with the negotiations concerning the cease-fire during the Korean war? The North Vietnamese wanted peace, it was the US that usually sabotaged the negotiations. After all, war is good for business in the US. Since WWII it has primed its economy using their own pathological version of military Keynesianism. Military funding has become a drug and the government is addicted and can’t break the habit.
        Since 1789 the US military has been fighting somebody in all but about 30-odd years. Quite a bellicose history for a ‘peace-loving’ nation.
        Never heard the ‘man man’ scenario but did hear MAD – as in mutually assured destruction – the Nixon strategy apropos the Soviets. I’m not sure Kissinger was threatening the Vietnamese with it, or the ‘mad man’ scenario but it wouldn’t surprise me. I won’t argue the point since one can’t believe anything Kissinger says anyway.
        In 1968 Nixon ran on the platform that he had a plan to end the Vietnam war but it went on for years after the election, killing hundreds of thousands of Asians and another 21000 Americans until the US pulled out its troops in 1973. He didn’t have a plan or a clue. In the early ’70s he illegally bombed the shit out of Cambodia, and Laos because he had no plan.
        
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        April 19, 2017 1:58pm
      - Kimbo
        
        It may well have been done in the Korean War too.
        
        In his memoirs Nixon recounts calling in Soviet ambassador Anatoly Dobrynin and, in the course of a cold and calculating exchange remarking that the Politburo had done little to assist in achieving a peace in Vietnam other than helping the North Vietnamese decide on the shape of the negotiating table.
        
        …but no, Le Duc Tho tried it on in Paris too. His tactics led Kissenger to conclude (maybe in a case of pots calling kettles black) “a pack of tawdry shits”.
        
        Although there are theories (recycled by Kiwiblog’s nost notorious troll) that Nixon during the 1968 election campaign successfully sandbagged a Johnson peace offer by sending a secret through an intermediary, Anna Chenault to the South Vietnamese to wait until he (Nixon) became POTUS and they would get a better deal, the Nixon administration always wanted out, but only on the “peace with honour” terms. As the war had been effectively “Vietnamised” (except in the air) by 1972 and the troops were coming home anyway, the blame for the protracted conflict lay with the North Vietnamese. They had gone ” all in” on humiliating the Americans, along with the mistaken assumption Nixon would cave to domestic pressure. Real history, not the stuff Oliver Stone peddles with the “Military-Industrial complex”.
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:25pm
      - Kimbo
        
        He didn’t have a plan or a clue. In the early ’70s he illegally bombed the shit out of Cambodia, and Laos because he had no plan.
        
        Not so – Nixon achieved what he set out to get: peace with honour.
        
        As one insightful commentator put it, criticising Nixon for secretly bombing (VC and NVA infested) Cambodia is akin to blaming the RAF for bombing German-occupied Holland in 1944.
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:35pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Since 1789 the US military has been fighting somebody in all but about 30-odd years. Quite a bellicose history for a ‘peace-loving’ nation.
        
        Comes with being the world’s policeman.
        
        Never heard the ‘man man’ scenario but did hear MAD – as in mutually assured destruction – the Nixon strategy apropos the Soviets.
        
        No, that had been the case since the 1950s. You do know that Nixon reduced the number of nuclear arms through detente and SALT? And he pissed off a lot of “never give an inch” conservatives in doing so, and also debunking the bogus “missile gap”.
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:41pm
    - brett68
      
      It’s the people that back Trump no matter what he does is the thing I find most disturbing.
      
      This is the path to some seriously fucked up shit.
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:36am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        It’s the people that bag Trump no matter what he does is the thing I find most disturbing.
        
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        April 19, 2017 11:09am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Shaun
        It’s funny isn’t it. They all think he’s achieved nothing too, when actually he has set in train quite a few good things for the US. Mainly by cancelling a lot of Obamas disastrous orders.
        They must be Herald readers- low information voters!
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:03pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , since when did the former President send a Carrier fleet in the wrong direction ?
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:15pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stephie the stalker
        Is the Carrier Group going to Nth Korea or not?
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:21pm
  - VicParking
    
    You are dick heads. SO Trump is wrong for sending the ships to North Korea. SO Trump is wrong for not sending the ships to North Korea. Did he say he was going to shape shift them to N. Korea the next day. No. The US Navy has enough fire power in the ships around Japan (Destroyer Squadron 15: USS Curtis Wilbur (DDG-54), USS John S. McCain (DDG-56), USS Fitzgerald (DDG-62), USS Stethem (DDG-63), USS Benfold (DDG 65), USS McCampbell (DDG-85) and USS Mustin (DDG-89). to blow the blow hard to bits anyway. Remember it only needed two destroyers to send 50 missiles into Syria.
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:45am
    - Scott
      
      Right. CNN today reports that the armada is on the way to North Korea but they had to stop off to do preplanned exercises with Australia first. They’ll arrive near the end of the month. They never said when precisely the Vinson would arrive.
      Try and keep calm people.
      
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      April 19, 2017 12:39pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Cha
  But, but,but …
  CNN …
  and pictures …
  and everything …
  
  http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/10/politics/us-aircraft-carrier-carl-vinson-north-korea-strike-capabilities/
  
  #ifitsonCNNitmustbetrue
  
  Have to wonder if NK could publish a response to the aircraft carrier movement (that wasn’t), how good is NK military intelligence?
  
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  April 19, 2017 11:17am
  - cha
    
    Trump said it and it was reported as fact because who would think to check that sort of thing, right?
    
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    April 19, 2017 11:31am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Trump said the Carrier Group is going to Nth Korea.
      Is it or not?
      
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      April 19, 2017 3:19pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        All_on_Red, I reported you by mistake – sorry about that chief
        
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        April 19, 2017 5:16pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        He has not answered as at 5.18pm so you can take it he is just trolling – as usual
        
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        April 19, 2017 5:19pm
      - mikenmild
        
        New definition of troll. Someone who won’t answer my question (stamps foot)!
        
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        April 19, 2017 5:23pm
dime

FFS Herald!

“Kiwi teenage brides ‘treated like slaves'”

So they picture a WHITE GIRL!!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11840270

Their own fucking story states:

and that the problem exists primarily in Pacific and Asian communities,

by asian they mean fucking muslims!!!

FAKE NEWS
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April 19, 2017 9:34am
- Kimbo
  
  Kiwis are Kiwis, irrespective of skin colour, but you do have a point. They may have been going for the ‘white slavery” angle/instinctive click bait response that resulted in the infamous Mann Act in the US about 100 years ago – “taking a woman over state lines for immoral purposes”. Was the reason (the first black) World heavy weight boxing champion, and inspiration for the phrase “the Great White Hope” Jack Johnson went into self-imposed exile from the US for much of his reign. If dime had lived there and then he would have been in a bit of trouble! 😉
  
  Also, isn’t it an issue with the Indian Hindu community?
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:49am
  - Southern Raider
    
    When does someone become a Kiwi?
    
    As soon as they get off the boat?
    When they discover WINZ?
    When they get their first job?
    When they go and live the same way they did in their home country?
    
    Or when they actually start acting like a Kiwi by working hard, contributing positively to society and aligning with our common beliefs.
    
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    April 19, 2017 9:54am
    - Kimbo
      
      I believe “when they receive citizenship” is the answer missing from your cascade of straw men in the form of rhetorical questions…
      
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      April 19, 2017 9:56am
      - Kimbo
        
        …but legal common sense and morality dictate that what happens to residents concerns us.
        
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        April 19, 2017 10:01am
    - MCos
      
      My mother, who lived in NZ from 1946 onwards, always thought of herself as English, whereas a German bloke I worked with who hadn’t been here an awfully long time, considered himself a Kiwi.
      I’ve seen little Indian kids at the cricket cheering for India with Kiwi accents.
      On the other hand I have a mate in Thailand whose Thai born kids run around in All Black jerseys.
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:35am
    - VicParking
      
      The story was not about them being kiwi. It was about showing a white girls to represent an non white problem.
      However if they had of shown an Asian or Pacific Island female they would have been branded racist.
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:49am
  - dime
    
    dude, if there were 100 16 year old girls married last year, id love to know how many were white.
    
    wouldnt non-fake news run with the ethnicity that rates the highest?
    
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    April 19, 2017 9:56am
  - Longknives
    
    Aah Kimbo -Jack Johnson the ‘Galveston Giant’! One of the most fascinating characters in Boxing..
    Lived a ‘Larger than Life’ existence- Liked the flash suits, fast cars, and even faster Women!
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:26am
    - Kimbo
      
      Yep. was a man who suffered real racism. A wonder he wasn’t lynched. A combination of his fame and ballsiness was the only thing that prevented it.
      
      Allegedly when he lost the title he took a dive to the gentle slow giant Jess Willard in Havana in 1915 in a pre-negotiated deal that would allow him to re-enter the US with no charges laid against him under the Mann Act.
      
      As always, Ken Burns does a good job of telling his story in his documentary “Unforgivable Blackness”. In his younger days James Earl Jones also played his story on the stage, and later in a movie, “The Great White Hope”. Jones was doing that at the same time that Muhammed Ali was battling the US government and was stripped of his title and was struggling to gain a licence so the comparison was made between the two fighters.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mtH6AGH7O0
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:36am
    - Kimbo
      
      I also remember a line I heard from a documentary about an equally-hated segregation-era black American, the singer and actor Paul Robeson, who also had a taste for ‘white women” (including Lord Mountbatten’s wife) . Being uppity criticising US domestic policy was one thing, but praising the Soviets put him beyond the pale during the time of the “Red Scare” in the late 1940s.
      
      Anyway Robeson was scheduled to make a stage appearance, but a lynch mob had formed in the vicinity (in California!) and had dragged a black man out of a car, yelling “Lynch Robeson”. One of them pipped up, “No, I don’t think it’s him”. The crowd bayed “”So what? Hang him anyway!”, to which the dissenter reminded them. “No. This is America. We can’t lynch the wrong nigger!”
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:50am
      - MCos
        
        ” had a taste for ‘white women” ”
        What’s that supposed to mean?
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:32pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Isn’t it self-evident? He was a black man who used to sleep with white women at a time when it was socially taboo, often illegal and could sometimes result in a man losing his life at the hands of a lynch mob. Or did you think that my phrasing, imitating the speech patterns of the times, also meant that I thought the racism of that era was a good thing? How did you figure that?
        
        You did know the first Hollywood blockbuster revived the almost dormant KKK, didn’t you? That was the same time Robeson was at college and developing what became his show business career
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation
        
        And I mentioned above the Mann Act, which was the result of moral panic concerning, among other things, miscegenation:
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:51pm
  - 4077th
    
    Chuck Berry was also the recipient of this dubious title if memory serves. It tainted his history as it became more about “pedophilia” as time went on rather than the Mann Act conviction.
    
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    April 19, 2017 12:02pm
  - Tirebiter
    
    It was James Jeffries who the crackers hoped would be the ‘Great White Hope’ to beat Johnson who was less an ‘inspiration’, but more a provocation.
    
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    April 19, 2017 12:18pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Yes, although the title has since been dubiously applied to others: Jerry Quarry, Gerry Cooney
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_White_Hope
      
      Jeffries came out of retirement and got a whupping for his troubles in the first of a number of “Fight of the Century” match ups.
      
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      April 19, 2017 12:23pm
      - Tirebiter
        
        Jerry Lewis…..
        
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        April 19, 2017 12:29pm
- cmm
  
  Same with burglars, pregnant teens, etc. Always show a whitey stock photo for articles on bad social outcomes.
  
  No different on stuff.
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:54am
  - GoVege
    
    That’s because there’s enough racism in this country without encouraging more of it.
    
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    April 19, 2017 1:15pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Lying to fit political or social agendas is still lying. Respect for truth is close to being the basis for all morality.
      
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      April 19, 2017 3:01pm
Lance

Some clown buys a nice (cheap) idyllic rural property on an unsealed road and is now demanding the council seal it to prevent his ‘illness’ caused by the dust

http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/91652833/unsealed-roads-cause-health-issues-in-rural-rodney

Stupidity unlimited
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April 19, 2017 9:35am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  And another entitled numpty along in less than a minute
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:54am
- Southern Raider
  
  Bet he complains there is no ultra fast fibre broadband as well or any jobs.
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:56am
- dime
  
  lol i have a name for people who look like him:
  
  Leftie McShithead
  
  bet he’s wearing sandles.
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:56am
- cmm
  
  It is a bit of a bugger when you buy a place in a small town and then one day logging trucks start to roll through.
  
  Still, should have thought of that when you bought the place. If there’s forestry then one day it’s going to get logged and there will be lots of trucks rumbling through your town.
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:56am
  - Tarquin North
    
    There is a plague of people like this moving in to Northland as we speak. They stand around in the pubs complaining about the lack of craft beers and whinging about smokers. I want the holiday highway but not the moaners.
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:05am
- howitis
  
  I hope there is no wind there. Such a precious petal will get blown away.
  
  What a cry baby. I see this frequently. These people over 45 move to the country to get back to nature or whatever the LSD flashbacks tekll them then find that they need to travel greater distances and spend more time on maintenance on things like water reticulation, fences, weeds etc than they ever did in a city location.
  Usually after about 2 years one of them starts to want to move back to the city and after 3-4 years they do. This occurs around Franklin district and eg Helensville.
  
  Looks like Mr Sook is a bit dull or house prices have moved up too much to move back to the city so now they whinge and highlight how their lack of reasonable foresight got them into trouble.
  
  Instead of being around wine country they go round the countryside whining.
  
  Simple solution to this. Pour some diesel over the road from 50 metres either side of the house. And… better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
  Hey it just happened overnight. I think it was the fairy godmother.
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:38am
Southern Raider

I see someone was shot in Mt Roskill this morning.

You okay IslamicBoy?
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April 19, 2017 9:51am
Captain Mainwaring

ztev seems to have extended his enforced layoff.
Anyone missing him?
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April 19, 2017 9:53am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Was he needling and getting to you and others with a needless dose of reality and facts ?
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:59am
  - Jack5
    
    Peter Sellers, as the Indian doctor, is consulted by the Stephiestani syndicate leader:
    
    Oh doctor, I’m in trouble,
    
    Well, goodness gracious me.
    
    I keep typing spaces, where no space should be.
    
    Not after queries, surely me?
    
    But does it really matter?
    Here only Kaffirs natter
    They post dross unlike me
    
    I’ll give you happy pills
    for that old question key
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:46am
- GoVege
  
  I miss him.
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:46am
- GazzaW
  
  Missing him like a dose of rabies, Captain.
  
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  April 19, 2017 11:47am
Huevon

Teresa May… What a woman!
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April 19, 2017 9:55am
- rangitoto
  
  Teresa May (TM) vs Magaret Thatcher (MT)
  
  Mirror image. Both awesome but I think Teresa May is smarter.
  
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  April 19, 2017 12:17pm
  - GoVege
    
    Let’s hope she is.
    
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    April 19, 2017 1:16pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Let’s know when she sinks a light cruiser or defeats the ahole unions; hat tip to her for Brexit tho’
    
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    April 19, 2017 2:36pm
Simon

Immigration issue will be a winner for Labo

Too many people in Auckland for central planning to handle. Classic govt fuck up competing govt departments have stuffed Auckland.

Auckland Shitty needs the numbers to support its massive white elephant projects but other existing infrastructure can even handle existing numbers.
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April 19, 2017 9:55am
- Southern Raider
  
  It the council departments that are causing the fuck ups
  
  AT has no idea on how to pragmatically cater for growth and put forward a coherent plan.
  
  Council bows down to Nimbys that slows down much needed projects.
  
  ATEED wastes money promoting Auckland when there is not enough accomodation
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:58am
- cmm
  
  I have no problems with limiting immigration.
  
  Let’s cut the least valuable and least productive immigrants first. No more PIs. OOps, no more Labour voters!
  
  Nope the way Labour would do this is limit the inflow of productive people and keep the less productive people (their voter base) flowing in.
  
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  April 19, 2017 9:59am
  - GoVege
    
    We have to let in PI’s. ..it’s the only way many of their women can get their hands on contraception. ..and a break from the bashings.
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:46am
    - GoVege
      
      Fijians should have first dibs.
      Every day 70 Fijian women get bashed unconscious over there.
      
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      April 19, 2017 1:31pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “Immigration issue will be a winner for Labo”
  
  Something has to be because nothing else has worked.
  
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  April 19, 2017 10:03am
  - Jack5
    
    National’s Immigration Minister, Woodhouse, a Key appointment, has been so slow to act and so slack that he’s left a gap for Labour to stick its nose in.
    
    Still, Labour and the Groans want to increase the inflow of (Muslim) refugees.
    
    If immigration’s the issue, NZ First could still be the choice for many voters.
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:12am
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack5 , thought of getting off your butt and starting your own anti immigration Muslim party ?
      
      Or does that go into the too difficult basket .
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:14am
      - Jack5
        
        Morning Stephie X!
        
        You’re very chipper this morning. Have they been passing khat around at the mosque?
        
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        April 19, 2017 10:20am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Wouldn’t pin my hopes on this either if I was on the little side, the Green Parrot team leader has this angle pretty well covered, rightly or wrong
    
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    April 19, 2017 10:17am
  - GoVege
    
    Then how come national has pinched all their policies?
    
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    April 19, 2017 1:36pm
MickMac

Seems Venezuela wants all it’s citizens to be barred from the West.
and rightly so……

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/socialist_government_of_venezuela_issued_thousands_of_illegal_passports_to_us_enemies.html
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April 19, 2017 10:25am
cha

I guess it’s buh bye Billyo’.

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The prospect of dumping O’Reilly — once unimaginable — has gained steam this week due in part to street protests outside Fox News headquarters and advertiser boycotts on O’Reilly’s air. One network insider said Fox executives are alarmed by the severity of the ad-revenue decline. “It’s worse than Glenn Beck,” the insider said, referring to the advertiser revolt that helped derail Beck’s Fox News career in 2011.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/sources-the-murdochs-are-turning-against-bill-oreilly.html
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April 19, 2017 10:32am
- All_on_Red
  
  It’s a bit of a dilemma for the Murdochs. Most of the stuff O’Reilly was accused of was from years ago. I saw one yesterday where a women who worked with him TEN years ago said he once looked at her funny! Now that’s a desperate smear.
  I note that recently O’Reilly has been getting into CNN and others for fake news and giving some pretty damning examples so I don’t think it’s a coincidence this campaign against him has started. It’s also been suggested those protesters are being paid- which seems to be happening a lot now.
  Anyway, his viewers don’t seem to care as his ratings are the highest they have ever been and he’s still no 1. We’ve seen from other BDS campaigns other advertisers step forward or come back.
  He’s 67, I don’t think he will carry on much longer anyway. Mind you, given this smearing by the morons on twitter he might make a point of staying just to piss them off!
  
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  April 19, 2017 1:37pm
  - stephieboy
    
    “..CNN and others for fake news and giving some pretty damning examples ..” ?
    
    Carry on .
    
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    April 19, 2017 2:17pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      You think CNN hasn’t done fake news?
      How cute.
      
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      April 19, 2017 2:23pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Certainly not on the scale of Brietbart and Fox which you regularly and gullibly pig off .
        
        But sunshine , do give us some examples ?
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:46pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Do your own research stalker.
        Speaking of gullible. You believing those made up Trump quotes by Huff Po was funny.
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:56pm
doggone7

The sooner we sell off schooling the sooner things will be fantastic in learning institutions in NZ.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11840377
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April 19, 2017 10:35am
- stephieboy
  
  doggone7 , by replacing them with these kind of failed charter schools ?
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/75177381/Hekia-Parata-to-close-failing-Whangaruru-charter-school
  
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  April 19, 2017 12:38pm
cmm

Another Buddhist in USA goes off the rails:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/91685203/three-dead-in-us-shooting-spree-suspect-arrested-linked-to-earlier-slaying

Oops sorry, no it was another Muslim.

There are as many Buddhists and Hindus in USA as Muslims. Why don’t they make the headlines?
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April 19, 2017 10:46am
- GoVege
  
  Not as bloodthirsty as the Muslims I hear….especially the Hindus and Jains.
  
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  April 19, 2017 1:34pm
- MCos
  
  Incredible as it may seem, to you, non-muslim terrorists have murdered almost twice as many people as Muslim terrorists since 9/11.
  Of course if you chuck in 9/11 . . . . .
  
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  April 19, 2017 3:12pm
Fletch

The Simpsons have a go at SJWs and snowflakes as Mr Burns goes back to visit Yale. Never thought I’d see it…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8M2tg2RkIQ
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April 19, 2017 11:13am
GazzaW

Very neatly gazzumped Blinglish.

Tighter immigration, wage gender equality, retirement age and still the possibility of tax cuts for lower and middle income earners. A shift to the left for sure and it won’t please some traditional right wingers but it’s a calculated move to hold the bulk of Andy’s ‘missing million’ in the National tent. Philosophically it’s a tad too left for my liking but I’m pragmatic enough to figure that any of the alternatives on offer are a far worse option.
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April 19, 2017 11:40am
- kowtow
  
  What a fine democracy we have then , when the choice, such as it is , is for the least worst option.
  I suspect Ngati Notional knows that too and that’s why it can be so dismissive of its own base.
  
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  April 19, 2017 3:23pm
Jack5

Woodhouse’s announced immigration changes are minor and will have little effect.

It looks to be an unconvincing political move to divert any voting swing to NZ First.

The nod to the dairy farm lobby is interesting: residency for 4000 migrant workers and families in the South Island for more than five years. That will be the Filipino farmhands and their families.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11840831
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April 19, 2017 11:45am
- Jack5
  
  The immigration surge has seen GDP per capita begin to fall and a huge strain imposed on housing and the health, education, housing, and prison systems.
  
  This has occurred under Woodhouse as main Minister. He was ranked very low in Key’s cabinet, and has been lifted to just mid-level (no. 9) by Bill English.
  
  National underrated the importance and effect of immigration, and apparently still does.
  
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  April 19, 2017 11:55am
  - wiseowl
    
    After watching Sky News last night and the coverage of changes to Aussie immigration, followed today by our pathetic changes and noting that the US is also making changes, one has to wonder about the immigration issue and who is dictating policy.
    This co- ordinated response is too coincidental and I wish someone would delve in to what is going on.
    Our immigration is out of control and Woodhouse is being dictated to by someone other than the people who voted him in.
    
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    April 19, 2017 8:00pm
stephieboy

Time to honour a great newspaper bearing ,as always ,the beaming light of Liberalism and Progressvism .

The Washington Post March

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzIH7vytjEE

Enjoy hugely !
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April 19, 2017 11:55am
- Jack5
  
  Stephie X, a good march, and its history is interesting.
  
  It’s notable that was about a century and a quarter before the Amazon magnate, Mr Bezos, bought the newspaper.
  
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  April 19, 2017 11:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    Jack5 , so Mr Bezos’s purchase supposed to nefarious and underhand ?
    
    The newspaper that like Richard Nixon could very well bring down Donald Trump.
    
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    April 19, 2017 12:35pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie X – thought this march might be more to your liking. Enjoy!
    
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    April 19, 2017 2:16pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie X – thought this march might be more to your liking. Enjoy!
    
    https://youtu.be/215HscnwO4w
    
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    April 19, 2017 2:16pm
- rangitoto
  
  John Sousa would be disappointed with the WAPO these days.
  
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  April 19, 2017 12:22pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Why exactly ?
    
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    April 19, 2017 12:35pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      You tell him Captain……
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE
      
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      April 19, 2017 12:42pm
cha

HW’s crook.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/18/former-president-george-hw-bush-hospitalised-houston/
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April 19, 2017 12:20pm
- CrazyIvan
  
  I initially read this with an ‘a’ between the two words and was about to leap to 41’s defence!
  
  Not great news; I’m sure to be shot down but I’ve always had time for Bush senior as a president, who managed the end of the Cold War and Gulf War I pretty damn well.
  
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  April 19, 2017 1:24pm
  - cha
    
    Compare with the current shit show.
    
    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/823567768045948928
    
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    April 19, 2017 1:35pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Obama sure was a shit show compared to Bush
      
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      April 19, 2017 1:50pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , in what way precisely ?
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:19pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stalker
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:24pm
Monique Watson

It doesn’t matter where the fucking boat is. It’s all about sending a message. It’s where the enemy thinks it is. Yegads.
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April 19, 2017 12:57pm
- cha
  
  It’s where the enemy thinks it is.
  
  I’m sure US allies in the region were delighted to hear the armada was a weeks steaming away.
  
  http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-carrier-still-thousands-of-miles-from-korea
  
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  April 19, 2017 1:37pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    I’m sure they are happy the US is supporting them.
    You’re being ridiculous. It doesn’t have to be there right away . NKs missiles aren’t working anyway!
    What a bunch of snowflakes. If Trump found a cure for cancer the headline would be
    ‘Trump puts Doctors out of work!”
    Lol
    
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    April 19, 2017 1:48pm
    - stephieboy
      
      How cringeworthy do you have to get ?
      
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      April 19, 2017 2:20pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Hey stalker
        Not as cringeworthy as getting a Strike for linking to porn sites on KB.
        How creepy are you ewwwwww.
        Lol
        
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        April 19, 2017 2:26pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Yegads indeed. So funny to watch how every little thing is twisted to try and make Trump look bad.
  Sad!
  
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  April 19, 2017 1:52pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Yep. When Trump said the carrier group was headed for Korea he didn’t need to spell out that it was going via the Indian Ocean, did he? I mean, everyone would naturally assume that ships en route to Korea would initially sail in the opposite direction for some exercises first.
    
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    April 19, 2017 3:28pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      No, he didnt.
      They’re still going to North Korea aren’t they.
      Why should they cancel exercises. Lot of planning for those.
      Heck, if he had, you all would be saying “Trump snubs allies!”
      
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      April 19, 2017 3:36pm
    - cha
      
      Kim’s missile test flopped, Trump’s armada went the wrong way – let’s call it a draw.
      
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      April 19, 2017 3:52pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Nah, let’s call it for what it is. Bullshit pathetic criticism.
        Trump said ” we are sending an armada- very powerfull”
        
        He never said it would be there in a day. This is just another example of TDS sufferers blowing something up out of nothing.
        You people are mentally ill.
        
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        April 19, 2017 4:02pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        And what’s this ‘wrong way’
        A Carrier Group is quite a few ships. How would you know which way they can go.
        Armchair Admiral Cha…
        
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        April 19, 2017 4:10pm
    - Jack5
      
      Milky, with your expertise, you might be able to figure out a way of squeezing American aircraft carriers through the Panama Canal.
      
      If they aren’t in the Pacific they can get to Korea either via the Indian Ocean or round Cape Horn. The Indian Ocean may well be the better route.
      
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      April 19, 2017 8:25pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Really? That’s the best you can come up with? Did you look at the atlas for a long time?
        
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        April 20, 2017 6:51am
Maggy Wassilieff

Do we really need to see the faces of candidates we vote for?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39636548
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April 19, 2017 1:43pm
- MCos
  
  It’s interesting you point this out.
  A few years ago, when Thailand still had elections, a woman who owned a wayside, tumbledown grocery shop, near my sister-in-law’s country house, stood in a local body election.
  Outside her shop was a huge campaign hoarding with a photo that was so doctored as to bear only a passing resemblance to the woman it purported to represent.
  Didn’t matter much. She didnt have the readies to pay for people’s ‘petrol money to get to the polling booth’ and she dipped out.
  
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  April 19, 2017 3:27pm
EAD

Wow, just wow,

For the first time ever, The Saker in his latest piece confirms the existence of ZOG – How to bring down the elephant in the room

Living with ZOG
ZOG. Or “Zionist Occupation Government”.

That used to be the favorite expression of various Jew-haters out there and it’s use was considered the surefire sign of a rabid anti-Semite. And yet, that is precisely what we are now all living with: a Zionist occupation government which has clearly forced Trump to make a 180 on all his campaign promises and which now risks turning the USA into a radioactive desert resulting from a completely artificial and needless confrontation with Russia. To those horrified that I would dare use an expression like ZOG I will reply this: believe me, I am even more upset about having to admit that ZOG is real than you are: I really don’t care for racists of any kind, and most of these ZOG folks looks like real racists to me. But, alas, they are also right! Facts are facts, you cannot deny them or refuse to correctly qualify them that because of the possible “overtones” of the term chosen or because of some invented need to be especially “sensitive” when dealing with some special group.

Remember – Jews are not owned any special favor and there is no need to constantly engage in various forms of complex linguistic or mental yoga contortions when discussing them and their role in the modern world. Still, I am using ZOG here just to show that it can be done, but this is not my favorite expression. I just feel that committing the crimethink here will encourage others to come out of their shell and speak freely. At the very least, asking the question of whether we do or do not have a Zionist Occupation Government is an extremely important exercise all by itself. Hence, today I ZOG-away

Brave man speaking truth to power. I guess Saker sees the current situation as so dangerous and threatening to life on earth that he feels that risk of stating in terms of opprobrium, lawsuits, jail and ridicule is worth it just to have a clear conscience.

To learn who rules over you, first learn whom you are not allowed to criticise – Voltaire
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April 19, 2017 2:21pm
- All_on_Red
  
  I reckon it’s the Democrats are the ones going on about Russia and wanting conflict. Oh and the nutter McCain.
  Anyway apparently the meeting Tillerson had went well. I don’t think we will see US/Russia war.
  Sure Putin is a murdering tyrant but he’s probably what they have to have right now. Otherwise the oligarchs would just pillage Russia blind – even more than they have. I think Putin stops a lot of that – even if he takes some himself!
  I’d like to think that Russia is slowly progressing towards a western civilisation- hopefully a more Democratic country will happen over time.But I don’t think it would quite work at the moment.
  I think a better working relationship with the US would be a good thing for the world and for Russia.
  
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  April 19, 2017 3:10pm
  - mikenmild
    
    No, AoR, it’s the Zionists as always. Haven’t you been paying attention to EAD’s updates on the Jews/Bolsheviks/Cultural Marxists/Rotary/Illuminati/Lizard people?
    
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    April 19, 2017 3:16pm
    - Kimbo
      
      …and he cited that “reputed expert” on everything in addition to car-making (and war, disarmament, education, soya beans, Jews) Henry Ford in this thread on international finance.
      
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      April 19, 2017 3:21pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Oh right. Sorry. Should have realised. And here’s me trying to have an adult conversation.
      
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      April 19, 2017 3:40pm
Nostradamus

In Australia: Family First senator Lucy Gichuhi survives ALP challenge over citizenship concerns

The High Court has rejected Labor’s push to challenge the eligibility of South Australian Family First senator Lucy Gichuhi based on concerns about her citizenship. The High Court today declared that Senator Gichuhi, who was born in Kenya, is free to replace Bob Day as a South Australian senator in the Federal Parliament.

More details:

The Kenyan-born lawyer migrated to Australia in 1999 and said she became an Australian citizen in 2001 and never held dual citizenship. Australia’s constitution precludes anyone with dual citizenship from being in the parliament. Kenya’s High Commissioner to Australia said Senator Gichuhi automatically lost her Kenyan citizenship when she became an Australian citizen. But legal experts argued a challenge could still be launched against her because of a change to citizenship laws in her country of birth.

It’s an interesting story.
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April 19, 2017 2:55pm
Nostradamus

Mikenmild will appreciate this story.

‘Getting on with the job’: Public servants given BBQ talking points on Armidale relocation

The Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA) will move from Canberra to Armidale despite opposition from farmers, veterinarians and chemical manufacturers.
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Staff were given three talking points to use with friends and family, based on whether they are planning to relocate to Armidale.
-For those who are not: “For the moment, I’m getting on with the job and considering the information about the transition as it’s provided”.
– Those who aren’t sure whether or not they’ll move are also advised to tell family and friends they’re “getting on with the job” in the meantime.
– Even APVMA staff who are pretty sure they will make the move to northern New South Wales are advised to use a bland non-answer for inquisitive loved ones: “I’m listening to what our executive have to say about the transition, but for the moment I’m getting on with the job.”

So you’re at a BBQ. Your friend leans over and says: “Hey mate, what’s up with office move?” And you say: “I’m listening to what our executive have to say about the transition, but for the moment I’m getting on with the job.” Your friend nods sagely, sips his beer, and changes the subject.

As if!
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April 19, 2017 3:08pm
- mikenmild
  
  “Well, the bosses are FITH, cobber, but of course you already know that.”
  
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  April 19, 2017 3:13pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Mikenmild:
    
    I noticed that a common phrase in all 3 answers was :”I’m getting on with the job”, From your perspective, has the public sector as a whole switched its focus away from cultural training and health and safety workshops, and back to doing actual work?
    
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    April 19, 2017 3:16pm
    - mikenmild
      
      The public sector has always been about serving the public – doing the job. I’ve yet to meet a public servant who didn’t feel in some way they were making a useful contribution. Not that all of them were, but, like politicians, the motivation is generally honourable.
      
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      April 19, 2017 3:22pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Bullshit the public sector namely local councils and gummint are just a bureaucratic constipation that leeches money from honourable peasants. There isn’t a honourable mayor or politician in this country, they are just low life scum of the earth!
        
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        April 19, 2017 4:00pm
      - mikenmild
        
        What about those hard-working staff at the Family Court, D4J? Surely you must have a good word for them.
        
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        April 19, 2017 4:24pm
VicParking

The government via work and income have tips for of 65 year olds applying for jobs. FUDGE IT

these are their CV Tips:
Keep it brief and simple
Tailor your CV to the role you’re applying for
Include achievements in previous roles
Don’t put in your photo or birthdate
Don’t include school or family history
Check your spelling and grammar

Any employer with any nouse will look at your previous rolls and guess you have BEEN AROUND for a bit.
Better to lay it all out in from of them. Tell them you are well, keen to work, have lots of experiance which you can pass on to others.
In most cases you will be applying for a job of lesser seniority or skill sets than the one you were in when you retired and in a lots of cases knowing that you are not a lazy wipper snapper is a plus.
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April 19, 2017 3:29pm
- Nostradamus
  
  VicParking:
  
  Any employer with any nouse will look at your previous rolls
  
  Shesh – I hope my packed lunches meet the required standard! 🙂
  
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  April 19, 2017 4:05pm
  - VicParking
    
    Do you pick your nose with the same amount of vigar.
    Auto complete.
    
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    April 19, 2017 8:16pm
lifesgood

Well I’ll be…. English has announced a new immigration policy. Now that will take the wind out of both Labour and Winston’s sails.
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April 19, 2017 3:31pm
howitis

Cor Blimey.
We don’t any more Brit cops here with their brainwashed ways.
The Met police has just selected a lesbian woman as police chief to ‘promote diversity’
It’s all about the diversity. Smell that diversity!!

Most commenters would rather they caught crims.

This is happening in institutions now eg Auckland Councils thinks its job is to promote sugar tax, be anti oil (despite their using motor vehicles, plastic items, cleaning liquids etc) and not really to collect rubbish and maintain roads.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4423238/New-Met-chief-Dick-says-diversity-heart-role.html

….Britain’s new top police officer last night said diversity was at the heart of her role as she confirmed she was in a same-sex relationship with a colleague.
Cressida Dick, 56, said she believed ‘passionately’ that every modern police force must represent the communities it serves……

I guess the Crims defence now can be that ‘well you have all these good honest taxpaying workers who don’t beat their kids so for diversity you need thugs, burglars and wife beaters. That is diversity. We’re just making society more diverse eh Guv, not our fault’

What a stupid person they have selected- this move weakens laura norder.
I guess it goes with the London mooslem mayor.

Don’t worry about leaving the EU, ‘british’ is leaving Britain.
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April 19, 2017 3:37pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Great name for a lesbian – Cressida DICK!
  
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  April 19, 2017 4:19pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Now why am I surprised a self-named fan of 1970s Brit Comedy decided to go ‘Are you Being Served’/”Mrs Slocombe’s pussy” on us?
    
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    April 19, 2017 4:27pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Captain Mainwaring:
    
    It’s hard not to giggle when you read the references to “Miss Dick” in the article!
    
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    April 19, 2017 5:12pm
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha my mate went for a Promotional Interview in NZ Police and got told if he didn’t introduce himself and do a Maori ‘Mehi’ at the beginning he was wasting his time!
  
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  April 19, 2017 4:56pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Longknives:
    
    I’m curious – what’s a “Promotional Interview”?
    
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    April 19, 2017 5:06pm
    - Longknives
      
      I think if you are applying for a Promotion to a higher rank you have an interview?
      
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      April 19, 2017 5:20pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Ah – that makes sense. I was thinking of “promotional” in an advertising context and trying to figure out how that applied to an employment relationship.
        
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        April 19, 2017 5:24pm
  - mikenmild
    
    A mihi is pretty simple, little kids learn them at school these days.
    
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    April 19, 2017 5:27pm
    - Longknives
      
      Yet they tell us Maori ‘Isn’t Compulsory’ in Schools Mikey?
      
      Still not sure why my friend (who has University Qualifications and a Professional Background) should have to learn a little Maori song and dance number when he is applying for a job?
      
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      April 19, 2017 5:37pm
      - mikenmild
        
        It’s neither a song nor a dance.
        Te reo is not compulsory in schools, yet, funnily enough many schools teach a little of the language and culture on the rather peculiar grounds that it might be relevant to life in New Zealand.
        
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        April 19, 2017 5:39pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Just for you Longknives:
        
        New Zealand Police Dancing @ Hip Hop Unite Finals 2016
        
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        April 19, 2017 5:40pm
      - Jack5
        
        Yes, Longknives, the police have gone full on for not only Maori-ness but also for multiculturism.
        
        The over-reaction that destroyed the career of a woman police officer in Queenstown because of a drunken off-duty lapse occurred because this was included offensive racial taunts to a taxi driver. It was an offence against political correctness.
        
        The chief of police has fronted up that he has a drink driving conviction from years back. Good on him for that, but why didn’t he give the Queenstown policewoman a chance to redeem her careeer?
        
        Not unrelated to this political correct bullshit is the national police chief of this democracy supporting controls on freedom of speech.
        
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        April 19, 2017 6:17pm
      - nasska
        
        What possible relevance is it in this world or the next? Reciting a load of cringemaking crap in Te Reo might be important should someone aspire to be a senior bone carver or flax weaver but that’s about it.
        
        Mind you the Police may want to identify with their best customers at least at a superficial level.
        
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        April 19, 2017 6:19pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        LOL – I hope the 2 mindless downtickers didn’t think I was endorsing the Police hip hop dance performance!
        
        Nasska:
        
        Mind you the Police may want to identify with their best customers at least at a superficial level.
        
        Imagine the conversation in the pollice car from South Auckland to the local cop shop. “So what have you been up to since we last met?” “Oh, you know, same old. A burglary. We had a fight with the other bros last Friday – that was cool!”
        
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        April 19, 2017 6:39pm
      - nasska
        
        Repeat customers are the mainstay of many a business Nostra. 🙂
        
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        April 19, 2017 6:48pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Reminds me somehow of a Marxist analysis of prisons: a mechanism to create criminals so that the terrified middle classes will continue to support the upper classes.
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:08pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Mikenmild:
        
        a Marxist analysis of prisons
        
        Any chance that you can narrow this down to a specific university and a specific academic?
        
        I can’t wait for the follow-up research paper: “A communist view of prisons”!
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:10pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Anecdotal report, sorry (a cynical university lecturer).
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:15pm
      - nasska
        
        That was probably true in ages past Mike but the days of imprisonment for stealing a loaf of bread are long gone as they should be.
        
        By the time anyone sees the inside of prison nowadays they’ve had chance after chance of sorting themselves out. You’ve got to be a pretty bad bugger to qualify.
        
        If the state are determined to prevent us from defending ourselves then there are few other options to protect the public.
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:16pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        I recently came across a group called No Pride in Prisons. Nothing to do with stamping out homosexuality in prisons:
        
        A prison abolitionist group based in Aotearoa, advocating for incarcerated people and the end of prisons.
        
        I really want to know where these eggheads think hardened criminals should go…
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:19pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I didn’t say I agreed with that view, nasska. But sometimes it is interesting to hear an alternative perspective.
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:20pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Interesting site, Nostradamus. Perhaps you could download their book and answer your own question.
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:26pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Mikenmild:
        
        This website provides a Marxist perspective on crime:
        
        The real criminals in this society are not all the people who populate the prisons across the state, but those people who have stolen the wealth of the world from the people’ (Angela Davis, former leader of the Black Panthers).
        
        Discussion Questions:
        Does Capitalism encourage competition over co-operation?
        Does exploitation lie at the heart of the Capitalist system?
        Does Capitalism encourage us to be selfish consumers?
        Does Capitalism cause crime?
        
        Discussion Question: Can you think of any other ways in which the law works in the interests of the elite?
        
        Discussion Question: Are crimes such as fraud more harmful to society than violent crime?
        
        Is this the stuff they teach at universities nowadays?
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:31pm
      - nasska
        
        My Windows 7 machine is on its last legs & I’m dreading having to adapt to Win 10. My current thinking is that if I have to move myself out of my comfort zone I might as well go the whole hog & move to a Macbook.
        
        Question……how difficult is it to transition to an Apple system?
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:32pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        Question……how difficult is it to transition to an Apple system?
        
        You’ve tagged that question onto a thread dealing with crime. Are you thinking of stealing an Apple system? If so, the transition process should be relatively straightforward!
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:36pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Nostradamus
        I’m afraid that I am not familiar with current sociological perspectives, so cannot help with your admirable quest for enlightenment.
        Perhaps you could take an online course and report back.
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:38pm
      - nasska
        
        I don’t know what I did wrong there Nostra. It was supposed to be a new topic.
        
        The situation is worse than I thought!
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:39pm
Captain Mainwaring

Why is this prick still in the country?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/91673263/donghua-liu-back-in-court-on-resource-consent-charges
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April 19, 2017 4:18pm
mikenmild

Serial harasser of women set to be fired:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fox-is-preparing-to-cut-ties-with-bill-oreilly-1492566611?tesla=y
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April 19, 2017 4:26pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Ya reckon Murdoch is going to give in to the shrieking of the mob and sack their highest rating star?
  Mind you Matt Drudge has tweeted something is up and he was right about Roger Ailes…
  ‘Representatives for 21st Century Fox would not discuss specific accusations against Mr. O’Reilly, but in a written statement to The NY Times the company acknowledged it had addressed the issue with him.
  “21st Century Fox takes matters of workplace behavior very seriously,” the statement said. “Notwithstanding the fact that no current or former Fox News employee ever took advantage of the 21st Century Fox hotline to raise a concern about Bill O’Reilly, even anonymously, we have looked into these matters over the last few months and discussed them with Mr. O’Reilly. While he denies the merits of these claims, Mr. O’Reilly has resolved those he regarded as his personal responsibility. Mr. O’Reilly is fully committed to supporting our efforts to improve the environment for all our employees at Fox News.”
  According to legal experts, companies occasionally settle disputes that they believe have little merit because it is less risky than taking the matters to trial, which can be costly and create a string of embarrassing headlines.’
  ‘His value to the company is enormous. From 2014 through 2016, the show generated more than $446 million in advertising revenues, according to the research firm Kantar Media.’
  
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  April 19, 2017 4:58pm
  - mikenmild
    
    A few sponsor bailing out now though, wanting to dissociate themselves from sexual harassment. Money talks, especially to the Murdochs.
    
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    April 19, 2017 5:17pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Oh yeah, quite a few have left.
      Still, we’ve seen this before. Some leave, and others replace them.
      Look at Ivanka Trump. After they tried to have a go at her, sales soared.
      His ratings are huge. Apparently two books on the best seller list still. His tours sell out.So people love him. Maybe that’ll save him.
      Edit- astonishing revenue though eh.
      
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      April 19, 2017 5:27pm
      - mikenmild
        
        It’s the only thing that will count. If you make money, you can do what you want to people, even grab them by the pussy.
        
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        April 19, 2017 5:31pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘even grab them by the pussy.’
        Time was, probably.
        I think those days are gone now. Too easy for it to backfire.
        
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        April 19, 2017 5:40pm
      - mikenmild
        
        As it has for Roger Ailes and now, it seems, Bill O’Reilly. Sad.
        
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        April 19, 2017 7:09pm
jonar

@nasska

You’re probably better off moving to Windows 10 than going to a Mac. It’s less of a jump. Also for $5 US you can get Start10 which gives you a start menu more like Windows 7. https://www.stardock.com/products/start10/
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April 19, 2017 7:53pm
- Fletch
  
  I’ve used both Windows and Mac and I can use either, but the ‘Explorer’ part of a Mac (which they call ‘Finder’) I was never quite that comfortable with. I can jump around folders in Windows without thinking about it, but with Finder I do have to think about it a little. I suppose it’s just something you get used to. Another thing you’ll notice on a Mac is that instead of every program (or Window) having its own menu bar at the top with ‘File’, ‘Edit’ and so forth, there is just one main menu bar at the top of a Mac which changes depending on what program you have open. Therefore, if you have multiple windows open onscreen you have to be certain of which one is in focus because those will be the commands available in the menu at the top (if you understand what I mean).
  
  Adobe stuff like Photoshop works the same on both, albeit there is an ‘Option’ key instead of a CTRL key. One thing that slightly annoys me when using Photoshop on a Mac is that even when the various pallets are open, you can still see through to the desktop wallpaper in the places where there are no pallets or the photo you are working on. I personally prefer a grey background that totally separates me from anything else.
  
  I guess you should also figure out what software you want to use and that is crucial to you. You don’t want to have to buy things again (and you most probably will have to buy Word, Excell, etc), and/or take note of software that isn’t available on a mac at all that you use in Windows.
  
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  April 19, 2017 8:18pm
- Jack5
  
  Nasska, you’ll soon get used to Windows 10. A clod like me found the transition fairly straight forward.
  
  Heaps of reasonably priced laptops are around at the moment, and the all-in-one desktops are fine for those who enjoy a big screen and are satisfied mostly by internet access, email, Skype, and YouTube.
  
  If you really want to play and have an upgradeable machine, I reckon a traditional desktop’s still unbeatable. By desktop I mean the machine has a separate plinth from the screen and the keyboard.
  
  In all, Intel processors still have a good edge over AMD.
  
  Apples are dearer, and if you are used to the file structure of Windows 7 you’ll be happier with Windows 10 than a Mac – in my view.
  
  Some of the folks here use Linux – probably the Mint or Ubuntu versions. Future software costs are minimal, but this path’s more technical.
  
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  April 19, 2017 8:42pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Jack5:
    
    Some of the folks here use Linux
    
    What does Griff use?
    
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    April 19, 2017 9:00pm
    - Jack5
      
      Nostradamus:
      
      I’m not sure if Griff is one of the Kiwblog Linux buffs.
      
      I suspect he communicates chiefly by (marijuana) smoke signals.
      
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      April 19, 2017 9:08pm
    - rangitoto
      
      I’m either using fedora (gnome) or Windows 10. I don’t find much trouble adapting when jumping from one to the other. Most people would hate gnome as delivered vanilla but with a few add ons and tweaks it works well. Incidentally, Ubuntu have announced they are dumping their “unity” desktop and they are going to ship gnome as default but probably pre-tweaked to Ubuntu theme style.
      
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      April 20, 2017 12:58am
Maggy Wassilieff

@nasska

if an IT idiot like me can transition seamlessly to a Mac, I’m sure any one can.

It does help if some-one else close to you already is running a Mac.

I’ve never had bugs or silly crashes that always used to plague my Windows laptops.
I use a MacBook Pro and find its great for use at home, but it’s a wee bit heavy for travelling.
One of the daughters has a thin 12 ” MacBook and that’s handy when travelling.
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April 19, 2017 8:03pm
- Jack5
  
  Maggy, I’ve got two Windows 10 machines, and I don’t get “bugs or silly crashes”.
  
  When you had a PC, was it sill running Windows 95 or Windows NT or some such archaic system?
  
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  April 19, 2017 8:48pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @Jack5
    
    At that time my Laptop was running XP and the PC had Vista.
    
    The husband loathes Microsoft stuff but runs Windows 7 on his computer as he can’t do his spy-work on Macs. However, I can’t understand a thing he raves about and he is such a pain when I have a computer problem.
    
    Much easier to work on a Mac and get my daughter to sort out any computer hassles.
    
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    April 19, 2017 9:15pm
    - Jack5
      
      Good on you, Maggy. Accumulating computer information is about as counter-productive and useful as blogging addiction.
      
      My biggest problems have been with laptops. I think they often have junk parts in them, compared with bigger machines, and there isn’t enough room for air to move around the components. Hot parts wear out more quickly.
      
      I say junk parts. That’s in some of the cheaper PC-type laptops. In these, the screen comprises so much of the production cost that the makers are tempted to economise on other parts.
      
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      April 19, 2017 9:26pm
nasska

jonar & Maggy…….thanks.
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April 19, 2017 8:11pm
- Jack5
  
  Nasska, here’s someone switching from a Mac to Windows 10.
  
  The new Windows 10 Surface Book type machines are interesting if you want something especially compact and portable.
  
  The link’s long, but I hope it works.
  
  https://www.businessinsider.com.au/apple-macos-sierra-vs-windows-10-2016-11?r=US&IR=T#/#i-dont-really-care-about-the-perennial-mac-versus-pc-rivalry-i-get-the-vast-majority-of-my-work-done-in-the-web-browser-so-my-only-criteria-is-whatever-helps-me-get-more-work-done-faster-1
  
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  April 19, 2017 8:53pm
  - Fletch
    
    This link shows some of the differences between the systems.
    
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201748
    
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    April 19, 2017 8:54pm
- gander
  
  Another vote for the MacBook here.
  
  I’ve never warmed to Mac OS, but it’s not difficult to find your way around it. Also, Macs run other OS’s quite well. If you find you don’t like Mac OS you can throw a Linux distro and/or a Windows partition onto it. (I’m running a MacBook Pro with Linux Mint as my primary operating system but with Win 10 for a couple of Windows-only applications I need for work and Mac OS – because it’s there.)
  
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  April 19, 2017 8:59pm
  - Jack5
    
    Gander:
    
    I thought the basic marketing ploy of Apple Macs was they were simple and intuitive to use.
    
    Not if you are running the equivalent of three operating systems on it, I’m afraid.
    
    Macs used to have the edge for those in video, photography, and art, but I think Windows is making inroads there. (See link following – sorry, but it demands an email address before letting you read it.)
    
    https://creativepro.com/is-mac-or-pc-better-for-graphic-designers/#
    
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    April 19, 2017 9:06pm
    - Jack5
      
      Some Apple jokes before I shut down my old clanger, Windows 10 PC.
      
      I like the one of the mechanic saying to the car owner: “I heard you liked Macs, so we put only one pedal in your car.”
      
      G’night. Good shopping, Nasska.
      
      https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-of-the-best-jokes-about-Apple
      
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      April 19, 2017 9:15pm
    - Fletch
      
      Mac used to be the go-to computer for Photoshop, but now it doesn’t matter so much. When I was studying, we all used Mac for Photoshop but those studying 3D animated computer graphics rendered all their stuff on Windows systems – it is better for that stuff.
      
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      April 19, 2017 9:18pm
      - Fletch
        
        Oh and games. Windows is better for designing games…
        
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        April 19, 2017 9:25pm
    - gander
      
      That is indeed how Apple seems to promote Mac OS and Apple hardware: intuitive.
      
      On the other hand, for the months I was stuck in Mac OS (until I got a Linux distro to run properly on my mid 2011 MacBook Air) I found its file browser frustrating; its pdf reader insisted on leaving a copy of the document on my desktop every time I opened one; and I was never sure where files were being stored.
      
      Then again, I don’t like cars that haven’t got three pedals.
      
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      April 19, 2017 9:28pm
  - nasska
    
    I appreciate the above commenters help & links….the decision is not going to be easy.
    
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    April 19, 2017 9:14pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      We can take a vote for you, and you can trust our collective judgement, Nasska? Or are you worried that the Stephieboy team might disrupt the voting process?
      
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      April 19, 2017 10:23pm
Fletch

Another shooting of 3 people in Fresno by someone with the last name Muhammed.

http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article145234709.html
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April 19, 2017 8:54pm
Tirebiter

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Since 1789 the US military has been fighting somebody in all but about 30-odd years. Quite a bellicose history for a ‘peace-loving’ nation.
Comes with being the world’s policeman.

This is a toss-away response having no basis in reality. The US in the 18th-19th century had neither the will nor the power to be the world’s policeman – given Britain was the big dog inb the Atlantic at the time. Even France would have crushed the US military in a serious war. There were some Rooseveltian rumbles in the 1890’s and a practice round in Cuba, but the global policeman role didn’t kick into gear until after WWII when the US had the will to police everybody for it’s own purposes and the war-making machine to make it work. And the US has been at war with somebody, running up a $20T debt, ever since. But as Herodotus observed “the strong do what they will, the weak what they must”. I can’t stop them.
Comparing bombing Cambodia and Laos to bombing Holland is apples and oranges and anybody who conflates the two has little grasp of history, ethics, or international law.
Finally, believing everything in Nixon’s self-serving memoirs is akin to believing Genesis describes phenomenal reality. It’s believing that somebody who kills, or orders killing if you like, is somehow unwilling to lie about it. But I suppose there are those who do believe both.
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April 20, 2017 1:30am
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  World policeman status came in 1917, even though the Americans were reluctant about it until 1941. Would love to know how you determine the US was at constant war in the 19th Century. Against the British in 1812, the Civil War 1861-65, and then the Spanish in 1898. Who else? Or are you also counting the Native Americans. Meh. All 19th Century colonising powers had the same dubious record.
  
  No, East Cambodia was used as a base by foreign insurgents (North Vietnamese and Viet Cong) from which to wage war against third parties – South Vietnam and her ally the USA. Sounds very much like German-occupied Holland 1944.
  
  And I note you’ve omitted any mention of Nixon the the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT), which contradicts your tedious, boring and cliched portrayal of “Nixon the warmonger”, who refused to bug out of Vietnam until, among other things, American POWs were returned. Like another conservative politician of the same approximate era but who defied unrepresentative by strident calls for radical left wing change, Rob Muldoon, Richard Nixon was a good and capable politician who was more liberal and much more humane than his ideological critics realised or were prepared to acknowledge. Their loss…
  
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  April 20, 2017 8:09am
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    Territory in Cambodia was used by the N. Vietnamese to move war material, but Cambodia was not controlled by the N. Vietnamese like Holland was controlled by the Germans. Cambodia and Laos were neutral nations. The US was not at war with the Cambodians and Laotians but bombed them anyway – beyond bombing the pathways used to transport war material. Remember the devastation of the Plain of Jars during the air war? Probably not. But I remember. And so do the Hmong who live here. A bit different from Holland which was controlled by the Germans who we were at war with, but the subtlety of truth does not seem to be your strong suit if your posts are all I have to go by.
    I will not list the instances of US military action/intervention since 1789 as the list is too long to post here. But you can view the list by looking up “Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-1945”, prepared by the Foreign Affairs Division, Congressional Research Service if you’re interested and do your own calculations. It does not include the Civil War nor the Indian Wars; the clue is in the title. And I did not say the US was at ‘war’ as you suggest, I said ‘fighting somebody’. You escalated it to ‘war’. Another missed, or purposely avoided, subtlety on your part.
    I also never said Nixon was a warmonger, that’s another contribution of yours. I just said he had no plan to end the Vietnam War. Which he didn’t; it was an election promise to attract Americans already tired of war. His inability to end the war as he promised cost the US 21000+ more dead servicemen until the Vietnamization.
    Nor did I mention what you suggested about POWS; that’s another diversionary construction of yours. Glad you note that I didn’t mention SALT. I didn’t mention Watergate, his racism, anti-semitism, love of football, poker skills, or his wife’s alcoholism either since none of them are relevant to the issue. Another diversion of yours. In fact, I voted for Nixon in 1968 and would argue that he was the US’s last liberal president, but that’s another issue.
    As for your straw men and mild insult, well that’s to be expected from those whose feelings determine their truths, not facts. In that vein I will suggest this: that you seem to have the typically superficial Wikipedia/Google understanding of modern US history – which is okay with me – but you should drop the pretense that your comments take into consideration the complication of actual facts. If you wish an other than shallow claim to knowledge about the subject try reading something substantive about it. I can recommend a short reading list of you like.
    
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    April 21, 2017 2:10am
Manolo

Will President Trump deliver?
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/329628-gop-under-pressure-as-tax-reform-deadline-slips
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  Is that a serious question?
  
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