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Paulus Gnome

Hooray!

An Auckland paper tells us ‘Rachel Smalley: Why it’s sad Labour’s Jacinda Ardern is attractive’

The paper has finally out Woman’s Weeklied the Woman’s Weekly.

I did not read the article as I thought I would rather ruin my eyesight and kill that many brain cells by self-abuse and a good bottle of scotch.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11810288
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March 2, 2017 10:22am
- Random T Person
  
  Smalley really is a terrible writer. As vapid as her subject du jour.
  After the media fully invested itself in dressing Ardern up as a pretty lil’ thing, now they have the temerity to moan about her being perceived as a pretty lil’ thing.
  
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  March 2, 2017 10:35am
  - reid3
    
    I always wondered why the hell PWC used to tolerate her hosting of the 1ZB early morning show they sponsored. For the very reason you raise.
    
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    March 2, 2017 12:15pm
- Huevon
  
  Jacinta isn’t attractive.
  
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  March 2, 2017 10:38am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Compared to the last female and the current (temporary) leader of the labour team, she is a stunner!
    
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    March 2, 2017 10:41am
  - MCos
    
    Is this what the election’s come down to?
    
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    March 2, 2017 10:42am
    - holysheet
      
      Yes, why else was she selected as deputy and touted by all as the best thing since the reserrection of JC.
      Attractive my arse.
      
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      March 2, 2017 10:47am
    - doggone7
      
      Is this what the Right’s political analysis has come to?
      
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      March 2, 2017 11:17am
      - holysheet
        
        yes!
        At least the right is capable of doing political analysis, unlike you leftie dumbarses.
        
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        March 2, 2017 11:49am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    Correct, and quite why the media bang on about the fact they think she is, thats quite beyond me.
    
    The only thing she has going for her is effectively timing. And, from my perspective her timing is shit – she’s just signed on as Head Purser of the good ship Titanic, and is heading out to inspect deck chairs on Tuesday next week.
    
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    March 2, 2017 10:53am
  - Random T Person
    
    There is certainly that. Average, at best; but let’s also remember that one man’s meat is another man’s poison.
    
    Yes, I realise the unfortunate nature of that choice of idiom.
    
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    March 2, 2017 10:53am
  - RF
    
    I had a visitor from the US scrolling through stuff articles on my IPad.
    
    She came across a series of photographs of Jacinda.
    
    Her immediate reaction was… “Jesus look at those teeth”.
    
    A comment was made that as she is now in a high profile position, it’s time to visit the orthodontist.
    
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    March 2, 2017 2:05pm
- Jack5
  
  Paulus, the details of what Smalley wrote in the Hooerald:
  
  God only knows why, but there are still some among us who believe beauty and intelligence don’t go together.
  
  This from Smalley, who once, into an open microphone called NZ women “heifers” and described them as a bunch of lardos.
  
  Does she think that overweight and intelligence don’t go together?
  
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  March 2, 2017 10:41am
  - Manolo
    
    Mrs Smalley is awful, plain awful.
    How she continues to be employed by NewstalkZB is a mystery.
    
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    March 2, 2017 11:07am
    - Kiwiladdy
      
      Probably for the same reason Mark Dye still has a job at newstalkzb… we’re approaching an age of the “art student” producer
      
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      March 2, 2017 1:23pm
- stephieboy
  
  Paulus Gnome , is that what a “good bottle of scotch ” does to you ?
  
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  March 2, 2017 10:43am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    A throbbing ache sort of like banging ones head on the floor in homage to an imaginary friend, I am sure that you can relate to that!
    
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    March 2, 2017 11:01am
- Kimbo
  
  I agree Jacinda Ardern’s physical appearance shouldn’t be an issue, and those who obsess over her alleged attractiveness and/or physical defects – including here – demean themselves.
  
  But Ardern courts it with continual vacuous women’s mags stories in excess proportion to any other politician or need to raise her profile. Then she compounds her poor judgement by saying that in doing so she is trying to reach and engage people over the issue of child poverty who would not otherwise be involved. FFS, insult our intelligence like that, and, based on what she says, she gives her critics good reason to dismiss her as an airhead and/or a celebrity-hungry phoney, irrespective of her gender! The Naz Khanjani of NZ politics.
  
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  March 2, 2017 10:49am
  - MCos
    
    Clearly you are familiar with these ‘vacuous women’s mags’.
    Tell me. Do any other politicians such as John Key, Bill English & Andrew Little try to raise their profile by occasionally popping up therewithin?
    
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    March 2, 2017 11:03am
    - doggone7
      
      … And Key appearing on all the populist crap radio stations for small talk.
      
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      March 2, 2017 11:20am
    - Kimbo
      
      @ MCos
      
      Clearly you are familiar with these ‘vacuous women’s mags’.
      
      You are such a tease. When will people learn not to give me another opening to expound on Kimbo’s law: “in blogworld the validity of an argument is in inverse proportion to the excessive and unnecessary use of adverbs”? 😉
      
      Do any other politicians…try to raise their profile by occasionally popping up therewithin?
      
      Pfft. Yes, they do…”occasionally”. Hence that adverb confirms what I first posted (again, with emphasis):
      
      But Ardern courts it with continual vacuous women’s mags stories in excess proportion to any other politician or need to raise her profile.
      
      But glad to see you are willing to entertain the possibility the Women’s Day is a serious journal of political record. You and stephieboy look like a good match for one another to play with crayons while the adults around get on with some big people conversations.
      
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      March 2, 2017 11:51am
      - MCos
        
        I’m impressed!
        Here, have a tick!
        
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        March 2, 2017 12:37pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Correction: “I’m certainly impressed!” 😉
        
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        March 2, 2017 1:01pm
  - Paulus
    
    I am told that not all women like attractive ego seeker other women.
    Particularly if they are younger and slimmer than them.
    
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    March 2, 2017 11:22am
- calendar girl
  
  Paulus Gnome @ 10:22: Not a great time to discuss PWC’s qualities in the week of that firm’s ‘mistake’ with the major Oscar award: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-awards-oscars-idUSKBN1685N8
  
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  March 2, 2017 2:46pm
RRM

Have you seen The Civilian on Ardern appointment?

It’s brilliant!

http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/talented-rising-star-finally-presented-with-career-ending-noose-she-always-wanted/

“It is such an honour,” she told reporters, as the leadership duo now stood separated only by three metres of rope. “But more than that, I take this very seriously. I believe I’m up to the job, and ready to tie myself to Andrew in ways that can only benefit him.”

Little echoed that sentiment, saying he was “thrilled” to have Ardern aboard, and couldn’t wait to drag her down to his level in ways she could never recover from.
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March 2, 2017 10:32am
- Jack5
  
  She’s going to tie herself to Andrew Little in “ways that can only benefit him”.
  
  Wow! Would it be inappropriate to react with the old saying: “ah, there’s the rub.”
  
  If only she meant it. At last, someone would make Andrew Little smile.
  
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  March 2, 2017 10:43am
  - cmm
    
    If she wants to be taken seriously in GrownUpLand she better learn to self-edit and think before she talks.
    
    You can’t be taken seriously dropping innuendo-laden comments like that in a press conference.
    
    As soon as she shows higher numbers than he does, she’ll shank the little fucker in a way that certainly won’t benefit him.
    
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    March 2, 2017 4:04pm
calendar girl

I’ve been pondering why Andrew Little himself has suddenly welcomed and encouraged the prospect of Jacinda Ardern becoming his Deputy. The penny has finally dropped:

• Little’s leadership is under widespread pressure for change. He has become concerned, with justification, about a messy, internal revolt against his leadership in the period leading up to the Election in 8 months’ time. The Unions may have the Labour voting power to prevent Little’s ejection, but such open divisions within the Party would spell the end of its chances in 2017.

• Little knows for certain that he will not get a second chance as Leader of the Opposition to lead the Party into an Election. It’s now or never.

• What’s the best way to shore up his position as Labour Leader against otherwise-impossible odds? Engineer a change of Deputy Leader to someone who can pose no immediate threat to his leadership – someone who can lighten-up and ‘refresh’ the Labour front bench materially, but who in 2017 is far too young, sassy and inexperienced to be taken seriously as the Prime Minister of NZ.

• With the 2017 Election won by Labour under the leadership of the new dynamic duo, any threat of an early leadership-spill disappears. And when misgivings re-appear within the Labour Government, the Unions will hold the power to thwart attempts to replace the Prime Minister.

What could possibly go wrong?
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March 2, 2017 10:42am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “What could possibly go wrong?’
  
  Quite a lot. The next preferred PM poll will have Jacinta ahead of Angry, but she’s about 9 years away from being up to the job of leader (if ever).
  The problem was not the deputy leader but the leader. Labour are doomed as long as this idiot is in charge, irrespective of who is seen as the long term replacement.
  Champagne and popcorn on order for late September.
  
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  March 2, 2017 10:57am
  - calendar girl
    
    I agree entirely, Captain. The point I was making is that Little is championing Arhern solely because her appointment gets him safely through to the Election – he and the CTU will simply brazen out ‘Preferred PM’ rogue polls meantime that show Jacinda ahead of him.
    
    After the Election, Little will have nothing further that he can do. He’ll never be PM, and the Unions will have to look to a replacement Leader of the Labour Party. Whether Arhern will be a candidate acceptable to the CTU remains to be seen – they don’t look like the most natural of bedfellows!
    
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    March 2, 2017 11:19am
- Southern Raider
  
  Fran OSullivan trashed her readiness on ZB last night saying she was average at best in the house and has no experience at all in managing teams, partnership agreements etc either in parliament or the private sector
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:19am
- cmm
  
  Leader of the Opposition is a sweet gig: $250k + perks with absolutely no responsibility.
  
  Of course he will want to keep that going as long as possible – no matter how.
  
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  March 2, 2017 4:06pm
oldpark

Anecdotal evidence suggests when Angry Andy Little told the wee woman who had an electoral seat handed to her, there would be no change in her position. Twenty four hours later ,after Angry Andy’s Little puppet masters from trade union controlled Liebour/Green Parties,told him, “throw granny King from the train,and install the wide eyed kid Ardern ,in Kings place””. It is either you or Annette King,so make up your mind”,. Angry Andy Little, thinking of his $1000 a day ,even though he was on 7% popularity with the voters panicked and fired Granny King.
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March 2, 2017 10:43am
Inandout

Jacinta is going to ‘tie herself to Andrew in ways that can only benefit him’. Yeah right.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1aul8FMdJ1qas8z9o1_r1_1280.jpg
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March 2, 2017 10:43am
kowtow

Rinkeby is the suburb in Sweden , 90 % immigrant , which had the riot , coincidentally the day after Trumps’ Sweden comments.

The MSM then went into over drive to refute the Don’s view on Sweden.

Here’s a Yank reporter , who visited Rinkeby , to disprove Trumps assertions , and yet he needed a police escort to get him safely out of there. Even the Swedish cops are afraid there.

Sweden , and the media have a huge credibility problem.

“American journalist Tim Pool received a police escort out of the Rinkeby suburb of Stockholm on Wednesday after he and his colleague were followed by masked men, he has told The Local.”

http://www.thelocal.se/20170301/police-told-me-to-leave-rinkeby-us-journalist-tim-pool
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March 2, 2017 10:43am
- holysheet
  
  Wait for stupidboy to return from his headbanging ritual and get on here and say there is no proof they were ragheads.
  
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  March 2, 2017 10:52am
- virtualmark
  
  kowtow,
  
  But we need a bit of perspective. I have no doubt that Sweden is having problems with serious crime done by immigrants, or that the Swedish authorities are uncomfortable with the optics of that.
  
  But I’d also say that the USA has similar suburbs which are as unsafe, or even worse. We can talk about “What happened in Sweden last night. Sweden!” But serious crime in Sweden is still lower than in most major American cities. The Swedish murder rate is less than 10% of the US murder rate.
  
  So yes, Sweden less safe than it was. But still way safer than the USA.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:37am
  - PhilBest
    
    I recall something Milton Friedman said about Swedes, which now could be paraphrased something like this:
    
    It is not surprising that Sweden has low crime, because Swedes in America are responsible for so little of the crime that is committed in America.
    
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    March 2, 2017 12:07pm
  - reid3
    
    The rape rate in Sweden is now second in the world. Second. Higher than Sth Africa. Way higher.
    
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    March 2, 2017 12:22pm
    - Albert_Ross
      
      Citation please
      
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      March 2, 2017 12:52pm
      - sam green
        
        “Citation please”
        
        reid3. Kiwiblog. 2.3.2017. 12:22 pm
        
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        March 2, 2017 2:11pm
      - Jack5
        
        Here is the BBC – Sweden with the world’s second highest rate of sexual assault in the world.
        
        But it seems the way it is reported does distort the figures, and a further complication is that this report is from 2012.
        
        So we are back on anecdotal stuff, and that is likely to reflect who you talk to in Sweden – someone from a middle class or upper class suburb, or someone who has to live in a poor suburb or the inner city.
        
        http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372
        
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        March 2, 2017 2:11pm
    - Griff
      
      They will cite statistics.
      But will ignore the detail .
      Sweden has very different approach to rape and justice than most other country’s
      This has been pointed out on this blog many times
      The same old rubbish from the same old people who refuse to learn .
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden
      
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      March 2, 2017 1:00pm
      - Jack5
        
        Griff, this what the Wikipedia piece you link to says of Sweden’s rape laws:
        
        In recent years, several revisions to the definition of rape have been made in Swedish law, to now not only include intercourse, but comparable sexual acts initiated against someone passive—incapable of giving consent—because they are in a vulnerable situation, such as a state of fear or unconsciousness.
        
        Is that different from the position in NZ? Haven’t NZ people convicted for raping women who are, for example, too drunk or too drugged, to give consent? Perhaps a lawyer may help us here.
        
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        March 2, 2017 2:04pm
      - Griff
        
        It says far more to go along with that.
        like individual charges for every incident not representative charging like here.
        
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        March 2, 2017 2:20pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Here are some 2012 OECD stats: http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf, ref page 4. Sweden is in illustrious company.
      
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      March 2, 2017 7:53pm
- Garbageman
  
  its time someone drained the fjords
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:53am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Ahhhh, draining the fiords will only lead to the further demise of the Norwegian Blue
    
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    March 2, 2017 1:06pm
holysheet

Yuk, can you imagine this pair of losers actually leading a credible government any time soon?
If they think the centralist voter will stoop so low then they are enjoyably misguided.
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March 2, 2017 10:51am
Griff

Dame Susan Devoy: State child care may explain why so many Maori are in prison.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11809895

Yip Susan they rip these kids from their loving family’s and stick them in training camps for gangs .

When the race relations conciliator says such garbage you have to question the entire idea of the position.

We have multi generational dysfunctional family’s
Mostly maori
At a guess half the work of cyf the police and related agency’s is centered on less than a thousand such family’s
Leaving the kids within them is not going to make the outcomes any better.
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March 2, 2017 10:56am
- waikatogirl
  
  And yet there is no limit to how many children these dysfunctional individuals pop out, even if their offspring are to be removed straight into cyf care.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:08am
- doggone7
  
  One of the only certain outcomes is that teachers will get the blame.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:23am
  - holysheet
    
    Nah you lefties say it’s still John Keys fault.
    
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    March 2, 2017 11:52am
    - doggone7
      
      I’m not saying everything’s JK’s fault, never have, but looking at the general intellect of posts you make someone has to take the blame.
      
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      March 2, 2017 1:25pm
kowtow

The out of touch elites , the multiculturalists, the MSM and the Islamopologists keep telling us the problem of Muslim terrorism, crime and lack of integration in the west is due to a lack of education and unemplyment and yet…….

“Two British medical students who left the country to fight for ISIS have been killed in Iraq. ”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4272174/British-medical-students-joined-ISIS-killed-Iraq.html
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March 2, 2017 10:58am
- alex Masterley
  
  Oh dear,
  How sad, never mind.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:02am
  - PhilBest
    
    At least they died over there, rather than exploding themselves in a public place in Pommyland.
    
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    March 2, 2017 12:10pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  It seems to be the science students who go off to join ISIS, or become terrorists. I wonder if philosophy or history or even English literature students are as easily swayed towards wrong-headed thinking.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:57am
  - PhilBest
    
    Going by what is taught in philosophy, history and even English, in most western institutions today, I am surprised those courses are not turning out terrorists against western civilisation to go with all the brainwashed rent-a-mob participants.
    
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    March 2, 2017 12:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  There is only one law in nature and that is consequences !
  
  There fixed for yah !
  
  The two likely killed by Muslim, Iraqi, Kurd or Shia armed forces .
  
  Fixed yet again !
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:08pm
Manolo

@Kimbo: I did not forget my daily book for you: Extreme Cosmos, a title by Bryan Gaensler. Enjoy.
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March 2, 2017 11:03am
oldpark

Fake news outlet, Dominion Post in Wellington, one of their overpaid copy typists,said Little and wee wild eyed kid Ardern ,are a “dream team”. More like a” bad dream team” ask granny Annette King,who got dumped,by the” dream team”?.
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March 2, 2017 11:06am
- Paulus
  
  Surely a wet dream !
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:25am
- rangitoto
  
  I think nightmare was the word they were looking for.
  
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  March 2, 2017 3:35pm
Jack5

Dame Devoid says in an article in the Hooerald today:

So often people will want to say we need to be colour blind about justice but the reality is that when you look at our prisons, ethnicity is its defining factor.

Ethnicity is the defining factor in our justice system? The defining factor?

And how would Devoid reduce the proportion of Maori in prisons? Presumably, Devoid’s solution is an apartheid-style, separate race justice system. And that would work for inter-race crime?

Devoid succeeded a Marxist activist as race relations commissioner, but she seems no less radical and is more politically active. Devoid has to be National’s worst ever political appointment.

Her job was to be to look into complaints of racial discrimination, but Devoid is trying to be a Nelson Mandela in a liberal Western country. She wants the refugee quota raised. Now she wants the justice system reformed. Next, she’ll want the electoral system changed.

The worst posts I have made on Kiwiblog were those defending Devoid’s appointment when Lefties were fuming about it. I was wrong, I retract, and I apologise.
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March 2, 2017 11:07am
- oldpark
  
  She will be out of her jog/job by end year hopefully.We have enough clowns as it is ,without her trying to claim chief clown ,or is it dumbo.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:15am
  - PhilBest
    
    Look, is anyone who is not a clown ever going to get that job?
    
    The SJW Industry looks after its own.
    
    Look at the Waitangi Tribunal, too – “stacked” is an understatement.
    
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    March 2, 2017 12:14pm
- holysheet
  
  She has her eyes on some UN posting, so has to be seen to be saying all the right things those socialist UN scum are well known for supporting.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:54am
- Paulus
  
  Remember nobody wanted the job – she was coerced into it.
  It is controlled by left wing activists and she cannot see or counter that.
  Go play or coach squash.
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:14pm
Happychappy

Wow Labour are on a roll, you have Greg O’Connor that will bring Law and Order back and if he beats Peter Dunn they are a shoe in to win the next Election, then you have Willie Jackson who will bring all the effected Maori voter and the missing million in the North back and then you have theDream Team of Andrew Little and Jacinda Ardern as Leader and Deputy showing just how ready Labour is to be the Government. Jacinda has already stated how much she is up with the play with “Gathering scalps in Parliament not my measure of success as a Politician” I have helped develop a child poverty which if implemented would make a difference than anything the present Government has done but will never feel like a achievement until it is real. So Andrew Little thinks Mt Albert shows that people want change and the dream team is ready but Barry Soper says different with “the best about Jacinda and her win in Mt Albert with a miserable 30% of the vote turnout and with no Opposition – which is misplaced- a drovers dog wearing a red rosette could have pulled it off- and that is no reflection on Ardern”.
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March 2, 2017 11:10am
Manolo

Our own multi-culturalist is delirious with joy and will throw a party in Mt Roskill (no women allowed):
http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-muslims-world-islam-set-overtake-christianity-most-popular-religion-while-us-2498931

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and will overtake Christianity as the most popular before the end of this century, according to an analysis of religious surveys published Tuesday by the Pew Research Center.
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March 2, 2017 11:13am
waikatogirl

Willie Jackson’s mate John Tamahere was on the TV news last night dismissing maori initiative in Ngaruawahia to build housing for their tribe on maori land. Apparently it isn’t going to make any difference.

Surely as maori already own the land, the cost of sections is removed or at least cheaper, then building affordable housing for their people can only be a good thing.
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March 2, 2017 11:17am
- PhilBest
  
  I have been saying something like this for years. The country has a housing crisis and Maori are disproportionately suffering under it. Yet “Iwi” are the largest owners of undeveloped and developable land in the country!
  
  What smart Iwi leaders should do, is get some Southern US developers out here, who have experience of building whole new mini-cities from scratch, like “The Woodlands” near Houston. Iwi have the potential to do end-runs around all the regulatory delays, costs, fee gouging and land banking that has caused the crisis.
  
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  March 2, 2017 12:18pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Does the iwi want to solve the problem?
    
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    March 2, 2017 1:13pm
  - Jack5
    
    If your land is group owned, and cannot ever be sold up, it is impossible or near-impossible to use it as security for a mortgage.
    
    This is one of the biggest brakes on Maori economic development. They cannot leverage their assets.
    
    Land ownership – transferable, surveyed and registered – is highly important for ownership growth. It allows it to be used as a security for raising capital.
    
    China, where the State owns all land, gets away without this, but I expect some sort of “right to occupy” stands in for freehold assets. More important, the Chinese banking system is state controlled, and if you convince the big comrades you want a new ghost city the cheques get written, security or not.
    
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/01/19/one-way-that-china-populates-its-ghost-cities/#48886b646e53
    
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    March 2, 2017 4:57pm
  - freemark
    
    Peter Cooper (Ngapuhi) is the developer of Britomart and a couple of small towns in USA. He would appear to be a good candidate. I think he is reasonably philanthropic here however already.
    
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    March 2, 2017 5:06pm
- Paulus
  
  As long as we do not have to pay for its P cleaning and reconstruction when the inside is wrecked – 9 children !
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:16pm
- Komata
  
  Not having seen the TV clip, one has to wonder if John T missed out on something lucrative, since his reaction is very strange coming from one who has been vociferously supporting Maori ‘improvement’ over the years.
  
  Something odd here methinks.
  
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  March 2, 2017 2:55pm
  - Pateke
    
    It’s because this is a tribal initiative and he runs a pan-Maori slops trough out west where all Maori are equal. Whakapapa is anathema to JT &WJ. They see Maori issues as a class problem not a tribal issue.
    
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    March 2, 2017 4:11pm
Right of way is Way of Right

Is it just me, or does anyone else have a real issue with the apparent anointing of Jacinda Ardern as the next Labour Deputy (and aspiring) Leader?

I seem to recall somewhere that the correct title of the big room that all the politicians sit in and shout at each other is called the ‘House of Representatives”.

Given that Jacinda moved in to the political world fresh out of university, and has never existed in the real world without some sort of political support network, I would question her ability to relate to people in the real world who actually have to work for a living. She appears to me to be another Labour appointee chosen on the basis of her political orientation, rather than on any demonstration of competence in any field whatsoever.

“Winning” an uncontested by election in a safe seat hardly grants one a mandate to say that you speak for a segment of the populace either.

It’s yet another Labour appointment to the House of Representatives that seems to be very un-representational of anything! But when the prime reason for your appointment is based on ideology rather than experience, and aspiration rather than achievement, you get what you get.

This was the same mindset that gave the UK Jeremy Corbyn, and look how well THAT worked.
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March 2, 2017 11:19am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Am I the only one who’s noticed that Marquess has been very quiet here lately?
  
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  March 2, 2017 12:37pm
- Paulus
  
  Jacinda will laughed at when trying to discipline the Union caucus.
  She is a pretty child though.
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:18pm
Manolo

The most femenine religion, isn’t it?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/mar/01/iran-news-agency-charlize-theron-polo-neck-oscars-asghar-farhadi-salesman

The Iranian Labor News Agency’s coverage of the win included censorship of the outfits worn by presenter Charlize Theron, and by Anousheh Ansari, the first Iranian in space, who accepted the award in lieu of Farhadi.

Theron’s gold lamé gown by Christian Dior initially has blurry black sleeves and a collar added to it to preserve her modesty – but such additions do not consistently move with the actor.

The news clip was shared by My Stealthy Freedom, a lobbying organisation aiming to raise awareness of state rules in Iran which dictate that women should be flogged or imprisoned for failure to wear the hijab.
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March 2, 2017 11:21am
B.L.Zeebub

Pat Condell, Women defend yourselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbXZ6uWEsAQ

Continues his revolutionary series of bringing the truth.
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March 2, 2017 11:25am
- realityczech
  
  He is a lying Zionist shill
  
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  March 2, 2017 4:50pm
Southern Raider

So a women received $10K after her house burnt down and is now in court for failing to stop and crashing her car into a house.

Devil is in the detail. Her house was partly damaged three years ago in Hornby, but mysteriously completely burned down in an unsolved arson two days later. I bet this wasn’t on the give a little page

She has now done $70K of damage to someone else’s house and claims she can’t pay it back as her and her partner are both unemployed. They are white and look early 30s so can’t see any reason why they can’t work except for the $750 per week they get collectively in benefits
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March 2, 2017 11:30am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Trailer park trash
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:13pm
Paulus

I am annoyed that the so called media keep on attacking Bill English for his comments on drug testing of employees.
I suppose this is now the norm – whatever English says will be severely contradicted by the so called media whatever.
I come from a recent Orchardist career in the Bay of Plenty where there is a severe unemployment of young Maori men. They are unemployable.
So the ex PSA (like Kiwifruit disease) Union leader yells on a number of the same interview in different parts of the so called media that of 30,000 tested only 185 or so are rejected.
What about the many many tens of thousands here who would not consider trying for a job as they know they would not pass the test, so they do not try.
I have seen a lunch time delivery of cannabis by a whanau member outside a packhouse and the damage that one person can do in the afternoon shift in addition by deliberately stuffing up a fast production line. They need to be tested twice a day which is why vacancies are everywhere and difficult to fill by local New Zealanders.
So back to Winz – easy.
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March 2, 2017 11:36am
- Griff
  
  Is working on a pack house line stoned a danger?
  
  I would suggest that testing should be reserved for jobs where the danger of impairment is real .Driving a forklift stoned is dangerous standing on a pack house line sticking fruit in boxes it is probably immaterial to performance or safety.
  
  Is testing for impairment or just use ?
  
  What an employee does in their own time is no business of the employer , Testing using a blood sample does not tell you if they person is impaired as blood testing can show up even casual use weeks before .
  Drug testing for residues that have no measurable impairment effect should not be used to screen your employees.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:54am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Griff,
    
    Drug testing for residues is a defacto character test as well.
    
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    March 2, 2017 12:01pm
    - Griff
      
      That is silly lucia.
      I know on here all stoners are losers .
      Out here in the real world a significant number of productive people smoke pot and have no issues effecting their employment.
      When I was employed in a management role most problems I had with staff using drugs use was those who had issues with alcohol.
      Not turning up or tuning up incapable of working because of hangovers along with days off from both court appearances and injury’s caused by their drinking .
      
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      March 2, 2017 12:22pm
      - Garbageman
        
        As an employer I totally agree Griff our staff only get tested when employment or an LTI (lost time injury) the old sniff test is the easiest as the smell of weed tends to linger long after, and as you have stated alcohol problems are far more serious especially in an industrial business basically if someone was on the pot all weekend I would rarely if ever know compare that to someone recovering from a 2 day binge its not a pretty sight
        
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        March 2, 2017 2:38pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Griff,
        
        While there may be a number of people working out there who take drugs and have no issues affecting their employment, as you said, that is different from being of good character.
        
        You kind of use yourself as an example in further comments, but, consider what you said about yourself yesterday. About being an arsehole. Maybe the drugs help to keep you an arsehole.
        
        Not everyone wants to work with people who take drugs, and therefore, the drug test weeds those people out. Whether or not they’d be good at the job is irrelevant.
        
        Personally, I wouldn’t want to work with people who are consistently drunk, either.
        
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        March 2, 2017 3:36pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Occasional Marijuana use if you are intelligent is not too big a problem, but people at the near-unemployable low end of intelligence and education do not have any brain cells to spare:
    http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/short-and-long-term-effects.html
    Long term effects of Cannabis use:
    -Decline in IQ (up to 8 points if prolonged use started in adolescent age).
    -Poor school performance and higher chance of dropping out.
    -Impaired thinking and ability to learn and perform complex tasks.
    -Lower life satisfaction.
    -Relationship problems, intimate partner violence
    -Antisocial behavior including stealing money or lying.
    -Financial difficulties.
    -Increased welfare dependence.
    -Greater chances of being unemployed or not getting good jobs.
    
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    March 2, 2017 12:34pm
    - Griff
      
      foundation for a drug free world
      Not going to happen now or ever .
      Such organizations push propaganda not fact to back their unrealistic crusades.
      The study that found the IQ drop has been disputed in the literature .
      
      links between adolescent cannabis use and drops in IQ are essentially spurious,
      
      http://www.nature.com/news/pot-smokers-might-not-turn-into-dopes-after-all-1.12207
      
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      March 2, 2017 12:47pm
  - Paulus
    
    You have never worked in a packhouse production line that is obvious. I have.
    
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    March 2, 2017 1:21pm
    - Griff
      
      I will bet I have packed far more tonnes of product of a line than you have .
      Driven more km on a hoist etc etc etc .
      In fact I will guarantee every single nz based commentator on this blog has consumed a product either made, packed or freighted by me.
      
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      March 2, 2017 2:13pm
      - Komata
        
        Based only the fact that you ‘guarantee’ your statement, the details of your exploits would be?
        
        I’m sure that the inhabitants of KB will be very interested, so come on, don’t be shy; share your ‘adventures’ with us.
        
        Thank you.
        
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        March 2, 2017 2:59pm
      - Sponge
        
        Bullshit. Prove it.
        
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        March 2, 2017 7:30pm
  - Pateke
    
    Jesus Griff, have you ever worked in a pack house?
    No-one wants to be near a stoner, let me tell you!
    
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    March 2, 2017 4:15pm
- Ed Snack
  
  I’d agree, where I work we wanted to employ 20 new staff at one of our locations a year or so back, advertised and got around 120 applications. All were informed that a drug test was required – about 25 turned up for the tests, and over half failed anyway. Did manage to get 20 eventually, after about 6 months of recruitment and bringing in a couple from out of area.
  
  There is some element of control and potential hazard; if an employee is drugged to the eyeballs and has an accident, we get prosecuted and fined just because we failed to detect that they were impaired in some way. Alcohol by contrast is just not at the same level of a problem, not at work anyway.
  
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  March 2, 2017 2:53pm
  - Griff
    
    Eat margarine or any proceed food at all ?
    I worked for the margarine manufacture as a store man and on the line at times .
    Also spent years working from the floor to the office for a food ingredient manufacture whose product is in nearly every processed food stuff you can buy..
    
    As to the reefer madness garbage you guys come out with
    
    I know lawyers teachers mangers etc who smoke.
    You smegwits dont because with your attitude you would never be informed who smokes among your acquaintances .
    
    as to piss
    It is by most metrics one of if not the most harmful drug out there.
    http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm
    
    by the way ed you may be prosecuted if it can be proven they were intoxicated on the job.
    A blood test can not prove this .
    If you insist on testing for fuck sake use a test that is for recent use not testing for residual from the last month or so .
    
    You are being lead up the garden path by the same group that run the p testing scam that sees idiots spending thousands decontaminating homes that have no more risk than if you use common fly spray.
    A p lab might contaminant a home beyond safe levels a user in the house will not.
    
    If some one is using at work sack them
    if someone only users in their own time they are not a risk to anything but the content of the fridge .
    
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    March 2, 2017 6:26pm
    - pentwig
      
      How sad a druggies life must be to find excuses to justify it!
      
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      March 2, 2017 9:30pm
      - Griff
        
        Call me a druggy .
        Yet another who thinks every one who smokes is a drug addled loser
        yet piss heads are by far the majority
        at the city mission
        in jail
        in mental homes
        in hospital
        at the morgue
        
        All employees who drug test for pot using blood samples are doing is depriving them self’s of a large percentage of the potential work force for no real reason besides their own ignorance
        
        This quote sums it up
        Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.
        John Stuart Mill
        
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        March 2, 2017 9:53pm
BeaB

When the media and Susan Devoy say our Maori prison population begins in state care, they have missed the vital first step – the dysfunctional families that neglected and abused them,
When we look at the wretched rollcall of abused and murdered children, would anyone in their right mind cry for them to be kept in their whanau?
If only the iwi could divert some of their massive resources, both financial and spiritual, into placing children first.
The government, CYFS, schools, churches – none of these can do it.
Like all social problems, it begins in the home.
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March 2, 2017 11:39am
- Paulus
  
  Remember it’s Election Year !
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:22pm
- starboard
  
  “When we look at the wretched rollcall of abused and murdered maori children”
  
  ..just fixed it for you.
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:51pm
- Komata
  
  BeaB
  
  And notice that Maori Leaders are very conspicuous in their lack of condemnation about all this.
  
  Their silence says a lot IMHO.
  
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  March 2, 2017 3:03pm
Southern Raider

Who says there is no money in being a socialist president.

Obama has signed a $60M book deal
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March 2, 2017 11:45am
- Manolo
  
  Yes. And the messiah and defender of the poor will donate the proceeds to a legion of Kenyan orphans….not!
  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/business/media/obama-book-deal-penguin-random-house.html
  
  Penguin Random House will publish coming books by former President Barack Obama and the former first lady Michelle Obama, the publishing company announced Tuesday night, concluding a heated auction among multiple publishers.
  
  The terms of the agreement were not disclosed, but publishing industry executives with knowledge of the bidding process said it probably stretched well into eight figures.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:55am
- MCos
  
  Bit better than GWB’s seven million!
  
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  March 2, 2017 12:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  Southern Raider , how was he a ” socialist” President . Is attempting to provide say affordable health care for all Americans somehow evil and socialist ?
  
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  March 2, 2017 12:20pm
PhilBest

Yesterday I only looked at KB very late, and there was a posting dedicated to where a Stuff columnist had surprisingly reasonably, for the MSM, written a defence of “The Muslim Ban” against charges of “racism”, for reasons obvious to all of us non-leftards. The policy remained, of course, “ irrational, idiotic, hypocritical and wrong”.

But why did no-one on KB point out something else that should be obvious to non-leftards, which is, it is NOT even a “Muslim” ban! It is a ban relating to 7 countries in a state of civil war, in which normal means of checking records about citizens have lapsed. That is the criteria on which countries made the list, which was compiled months ago by the Obama administration. Eg Saudi Arabia did not make the list, because it is not in a state of civil war.

Some of the actually justifiable fuss about consequences of the ban, is that it is catching Christians, atheists, Ahmadis, and others who are genuine refugees from Muslim persecution. None of the countries involved have a 100% Muslim population.
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March 2, 2017 12:04pm
stephieboy

PhilBest , Saudi Arabia like the Gulf states is where Trump has business interests as well as the US itself has the same .

Go and figure .

The former President has already covered base with those countries that have civil wars by requring an additonal security clearence for vsitors etc from the same . and not because they are Muslim .

The persecution of Christians etc also include Muslim Shia and Kurds ,especially in Iraq .
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March 2, 2017 12:17pm
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

News Flash….no leadership vacancy at Labour Party
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March 2, 2017 12:20pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Yes there is!
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:17pm
starboard

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/89960820/dame-susan-devoy-calls-for-inquiry-into-abuse-of-maori-children

More apologies sort. I’m over apologizing to maori.
Fuck off devoid, you are a pain in the arse and a waste of space.
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March 2, 2017 12:33pm
- itstricky
  
  Yeah, we know, we know.
  
  Going to comment on this guy’s “warrior genes”?
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11810493
  
  Just happens to be front page right now.
  
  Honestly, I’m surprised you’d actually bother yourself with this when you’ve got the sun, the sand, and the ladies, starboard.
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:06pm
  - starboard
    
    No, but I will mention the scummy mongrel mob loser dickhead who was just sentenced to 18 years for beating and almost killing his partner. Lovely warrior, even dragged her behind the car for a couple of kilometres. Such a lovely breed.
    
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    March 2, 2017 1:32pm
- Inandout
  
  She is looking more like Laila Harre by the day. Put her in a Dot Com uniform and she will be a dead ringer. Get rid of that iniquitous Race Relations office.
  
  https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1409292148/590/10439590.jpg
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:08pm
starboard

..and she wants ANOTHER inquiry into maori child abuse ! Why ? Go back over the previous 50 inquiries and find what you are looking for. I can give you the low down for free, but it won’t be pretty, and I will be brutality honest. Probably too much so for your sensitivities.
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March 2, 2017 1:06pm
- itstricky
  
  ANOTHER inquiry
  Why ?
  
  Maybe because, unlike you, they will actually delve deep into the real causes, not finger point with 50 cent slogans?
  
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  March 2, 2017 1:09pm
  - starboard
    
    What I get up to in my downtime is of no consequence to you sticky..so don’t concern yourself.
    Sure ok, have another inquiry.. but you and your lot fucking pay for it. Get your brown wallets out, blow the dust, gorse and cobwebs away..and pay for it. Pay for something rather than just continually taking and moaning. The wheels are slowly coming off the train sticky..what ya gona do…? Heh.
    
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    March 2, 2017 1:29pm
    - starboard
      
      stupid boy.
      
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      March 2, 2017 2:39pm
itstricky

moaning

But, starboard – you’re the only person doing any moaning here.
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March 2, 2017 1:54pm
- sam green
  
  Probably needs some relief.
  
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  March 2, 2017 2:33pm
  - starboard
    
    stupid boy.
    
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    March 2, 2017 2:41pm
Notsofast

Bill English is toast. The seldom cited statistic is one that says unelected prime ministers never get reelected. Little Adern and Peters look set to rule despite Adern being nowt but an elegant woman of straw who has never had a job.
Goodbye National.
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March 2, 2017 2:31pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I’ve got a lazy any sum you care to nominate, that says you are wrong
  
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  March 2, 2017 5:27pm
  - Notsofast
    
    Peters decides, he can see the scandal around methamphetamine and the wave of alienation of “his people” as the country becomes a safe haven for crooked cash from China and Korea.
    I let you nominate the even sum bet.
    
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    March 2, 2017 7:02pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Notsofast.
  Where did you find your brain?
  Was it in the gutter under a blown away KFC packet?
  
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  March 2, 2017 9:12pm
Manolo

Europe’s future is toast too:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4268820/TWENTY-MILLION-African-migrants-heading-Europe.html

As many as twenty million African migrants could come to Europe in the near future, according to the new president of the European parliament.

Antonio Tajani said Europe needs to do more to help asylum seekers in order to quell migration.
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March 2, 2017 3:27pm
virtualmark

Attorney General Jeff Sessions is a dead man walking. He will be gone within a few weeks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-spoke-twice-with-russian-ambassador-during-trumps-presidential-campaign-justice-officials-say/2017/03/01/77205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.3183f68815ca

To lose one cabinet appointee was a misfortune. To lose two looks like carelessness.

And given Sessions lied to the Senate in his confirmation about contact with the Russians during the campaign I doubt the House Republicans will be able to avoid appointing a special prosecutor to investigate the Trump campaign’s ties to the Russians.
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March 2, 2017 4:28pm
- waripori
  
  This might actually be a big deal. Several Republicans talking about Sessions stepping aside from the Russian Connections probes now. NYT reports Obama staffers made efforts to get as much of the intel they had on the record as possible so Trump appointees could not bury it.
  
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  March 2, 2017 5:05pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘Nunes was also asked various questions about investigations into Trump-Russia ties, including his committee’s probe into Trump advisers’ possible contacts with Russian government officials and of former national security advisor Michael Flynn’s intercepted phone calls with Russia’s ambassador in December.
  
  “What I’ve been told, by many folks, is that there’s nothing there,” Nunes said regarding the Trump advisers’ alleged contacts with Russia.
  
  There is no crime in talking to a Russian. Lots of scrabbling at straws going on and fake news from the NYT
  
  Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/27/house-intel-chair-on-trump-russia-evidence-theres-nothing-there/#ixzz4a8eNaejg
  
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  March 2, 2017 5:13pm
  - stephieboy
    
    All on Red ,
    
    “There is no crime in talking to a Russian. Lots of scrabbling at straws going on and fake news from the NYT”
    
    A useful escape clause pp Sessions , eh ?
    
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    March 2, 2017 5:50pm
  - Griff
    
    You do understand that the daily caller is a partisan rag all on red ?
    What it says is not necessarily correct .
    If the trump team was negotiating with the Russian government before the election it would be treason. If proven impeachment would be certain .
    The law very clearly says You can not negotiate with a foreign government unless you are part of the lawful government .
    
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    March 2, 2017 5:55pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Nunes is the Chairman of the Intelligence Committee and he is being quoted.
      But more here from the Justice Department
      ‘Sarah Isgur Flores, a Justice Department spokesperson, said Sessions met with Kislyak in his capacity as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and not on behalf of the Trump campaign. She says Sessions had 25 such meetings with envoys from foreign powers during that period, including the Sir Peter John Westmacott, the British ambassador, and Kenichirō Sasae, the Indian ambassador.
      
      “He was asked during the hearing about communications between Russia and the Trump campaign — not about meetings he took as a senator and a member of the Armed Services Committee,” Flores said.
      
      Sessions himself flatly denied the allegations in a statement issued late Wednesday evening.
      
      “I have never met with any Russian officials to discuss issues of the campaign,” he said. “I have no idea what this allegation is about. It is false.”
      
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      March 2, 2017 6:01pm
      - cha
        
        “I have never met with any Russian officials to discuss issues of the campaign,
        
        I did not have treasonous relations with that man.
        
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        March 2, 2017 6:11pm
  - virtualmark
    
    All_on_Red,
    
    From the WaPo article:
    
    In January, Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) asked Sessions for answers to written questions. “Several of the President-elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day?” Leahy wrote. Sessions responded with one word: “No.”
    
    At his Jan. 10 Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing, Sessions was asked by Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) what he would do if he learned of any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of the 2016 campaign.
    
    “I’m not aware of any of those activities,” he responded. He added: “I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians.”
    
    The Washington Post contacted all 26 members of the 2016 Senate Armed Services Committee to see whether any lawmakers besides Sessions met with Kislyak in 2016. Of the 20 lawmakers who responded, every senator, including Chairman John McCain (R-Ariz.), said they did not meet with the Russian ambassador last year. The other lawmakers on the panel did not respond as of Wednesday evening.
    
    “Members of the committee have not been beating a path to Kislyak’s door,” a senior Senate Armed Services Committee staffer said, citing tensions in relations with Moscow. Besides Sessions, the staffer added, “There haven’t been a ton of members who are looking to meet with Kislyak for their committee duties.”
    
    I repeat … Sessions is in big trouble.
    
    There may be no crime in talking to a Russian – although politically it’s a third rail.
    
    There is a crime in not providing honest answers to questions from the Senate when you are under oath.
    
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    March 2, 2017 7:41pm
- cha
  
  Dubya’s top ethics lawyer:
  
  Misleading the Senate in sworn testimony about one own contacts with the Russians is a good way to go to jail https://t.co/qH0s6sTMJ9— Richard W. Painter (@RWPUSA) March 2, 2017
  
  https://twitter.com/RWPUSA/status/837136831405752320
  
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  March 2, 2017 5:31pm
Jack5

This is interesting. Supreme Court rules Government liable for compensation for a land deal before the Treaty of Waitangi.

How does that work?

Still it’s not the first time. Chatham Islands Moriori descendants seem to be in line for a Treaty settlement because they were held as slaves by Taranaki Maori after the tribe invaded the Chathams before the 1840 Treaty of Waitangi. The Maori committed genocide and kept Moriori survivors as slaves for many years after the Treaty.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/325701/court-ruling-'of-huge-interest'-to-wellington-maori

AND

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/moriori-descendants-seek-treaty-claim-19th-century-atrocities
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March 2, 2017 4:46pm
- kowtow
  
  That’s the taxpayer who’ll be liable.
  
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  March 2, 2017 5:42pm
- reid3
  
  How does that work?
  
  Why all you have to do is appoint a CJ who happens to be who she is and there we are, and lots more besides. Aren’t we lucky…
  
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  March 2, 2017 7:39pm
Manolo

Will March surprise or disappoint?
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/01/wall-streets-super-charged-bull-faces-its-own-march-madness.html

March roared in like a lion on steroids, fitting for the month that marks the eighth anniversary of the second longest bull market in history.
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March 2, 2017 5:08pm
Fletch

The looney left-wing group PETA have asked Ozzie band Hunters and Collectors to change their name ahead of duck shooting season, because ducks die “an agonizing death” and they don’t want to encourage it…

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/peta-asks-aussie-band-change-their-name-ahead-shooting-season-ducks-face-agonising-death
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March 2, 2017 5:28pm
- Sponge
  
  My god. What a pack of utter fuckwits.
  
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  March 2, 2017 8:27pm
wiseowl

Devoy should resign forthwith.

Anyone catch that news item on the group at Auckland Uni that is being attacked from all directions.
The crap has really hit these shores and the Government better take note .
Having Devoy make such appalling comments and threats about a group because of they are proud of their history is so shocking.
Lost for words.
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March 2, 2017 6:21pm
- kowtow
  
  The really scary bit is Devoid says “We’re watching them”.
  
  And the news media , shock horror ,an image of Capt Cook , the kaiser in Paris ,and uh ah so offensive , Celtic symbols .
  
  Gee golly those honkey students are such a threat ! So offensive.
  
  You do have to wonder whether the out of touch elites who are “concerned” about such things really do hate western culture.
  
  Oh look these shouldn’t be on display ……… they’re Celtic!
  
  Warning , the following contains Celtic imagery which some people might find offensive.
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4266830/UK-s-oldest-Iron-Age-gold-revealed.html
  
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  March 2, 2017 6:38pm
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    kowtow, offensive ? Only in your deluded over contorted mind .
    
    Consider also the Anglo Saxon Hoo treasure ,
    
    http://www.ancient-origins.net/history-ancient-traditions/magnificent-treasures-sutton-hoo-final-resting-place-anglo-saxon-royals-021018
    
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    March 2, 2017 6:49pm
  - sam green
    
    It’s not a Celtic group kowtow – it’s a “European” group.
    
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    March 2, 2017 8:31pm
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      Who said it was a celtic group?
      
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      March 2, 2017 10:04pm
      - sam green
        
        Well – you know – the Celtic imagery and all.
        
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        March 2, 2017 10:14pm
- sam green
  
  So – they’re proud of being from Europe – is that it? Can the English join that group now that they have brexited?
  
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  March 2, 2017 8:29pm
  - sam green
    
    Can the Moors join?
    
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    March 2, 2017 10:09pm
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    Is it a cultural group?
    
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    March 2, 2017 10:10pm
    - sam green
      
      What happens when the German Students invade the Polish dorms? Will the French students surrender?
      
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      March 2, 2017 10:29pm
    - sam green
      
      Big question – what about the Russians? In? Out?
      
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      March 2, 2017 10:47pm
nasska

I honestly never thought that we would could ever have a worse Race Relations Commissioner than Joris de Bres but Dame Devoy has managed to plumb new depths.
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March 2, 2017 6:42pm
- reid3
  
  nasska were you a Key supporter when he made that appointment and if so has this given you pause for thought re: him or not really?
  
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  March 2, 2017 7:19pm
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    ….”were you a Key supporter when he made that appointment”….
    
    Yes.
    
    ….”has this given you pause for thought re: him or not really”…..
    
    Not really. From all accounts no-one wanted the job & the vacuous Dame was the only one approached who would look at it.
    
    Her appointment certainly wasn’t a high point of National’s current spell in the Treasury benches.
    
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    March 2, 2017 7:32pm
    - reid3
      
      It’s a crucial role in NZ because of who we are as a country both in history and up to the present. It may be a minor role in other country’s but in ours because of our history and makeup it is critical. Key is also the one who has put massive pressure on that makeup through his strategy to deal with the GFC by making Akld property owners millionaires but not so much the rest of the country by importing hundreds and hundreds of thousands of what apparently are mostly low quality Asians with access to cheap money.
      
      So he not only did that, he also appoints a clear and present bimbo airhead to this most critical role.
      
      So is he evil or is he stupid? There is no third alternative.
      
      I don’t think he’s stupid.
      
      And I think he was obeying orders.
      
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      March 2, 2017 7:46pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”And I think he was obeying orders.”…..
        
        Key was the ultimate political pragmatist Reid. No-one of any intelligence would want the role so the safest appointment would be the “clear and present bimbo airhead”.
        
        She has been captured by the ideologists who work for the Commission. You know the ones……state servants with barrows to push.
        
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        March 2, 2017 7:54pm
Fletch

In case you missed it, another attack on free speech.

A new measure of the European Parliament in Brussels: if the president considers a member’s ideas are racist or xenophobic he can halt the television broadcast of that speech and also purge the video from parliamentary archives to make it so that the speech never happened.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/26/censorship-concerns-european-parliament-introduces-kill-switch/
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March 2, 2017 7:02pm
- reid3
  
  It’s like pregnancy isn’t it.
  
  They lost it when they passed the Holohoax laws, guess who made them do that.
  
  Now they’re just extending the gap.
  
  As they always do once they have an in.
  
  Watch gay marriage move the same way.
  
  It wouldn’t work if there weren’t so many sheeple.
  
  Sadly, both for the sheeple and those few of us in the Western world who aren’t, there are.
  
  Evidently.
  
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  March 2, 2017 7:15pm
cha

Well, this should go over well…

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The highly anticipated live-action remake of “Beauty and the Beast” will feature a gay character for the first time in Disney’s history, according to the film’s director.

Director Bill Condon said in an interview with Attitude, a British gay magazine, that LeFou, the goofy sidekick of the film’s main villain, Gaston, will find his own subplot by exploring his sexuality.

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/beauty-beast-features-disney-s-first-gay-character-n727876?
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March 2, 2017 7:34pm
- nasska
  
  ….”a gay character for the first time in Disney’s history”….
  
  I’m stunned! I was certain that it would be a toss up between Micky Mouse & one of the Beagle Boys. 🙂
  
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  March 2, 2017 7:41pm
  - cha
    
    Profanity pop.
    
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    March 2, 2017 7:50pm
- reid3
  
  Disney’s always been a psyop.
  
  Social engineering in other words.
  
  Educate yourselves, and protect your children.
  
  Or let both them and you face the consequences.
  
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  March 2, 2017 7:50pm
  - stephieboy
    
    reid , Snow White and Mickey Mouse banned in your household ?
    
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    March 2, 2017 8:11pm
  - EAD
    
    Indeed Reid,
    
    You’ve just got to look at the names who have run Disney in recent times to understand why such degeneracy is being pushed on young minds:
    – Michael Eisner
    – Robert Igev
    – Michael Ovitz
    
    and then investigate the role and behind the scenes control and influence of the improbably named “Stanley Gold”.
    
    Very much worth a read is Williams Cashs article on Hollywood in the Spectator called “Kings of the Deal” and the subsequent faux outrage if you want to understand who runs the show.
    
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    March 2, 2017 8:50pm
    - reid3
      
      It’s like the MSM and Trump isn’t it EAD. Those of us with clues see it everywhere all the time. Some of the sheeple only see it when they do outrageously blatant things a child could see straight through, as the MSM did with Trump. The rest of the sheeple never see it, half because they refuse to look, the other half because they’re incapable of assimilating anything.
      
      Edit: cheers for that, looking at it now. Suggest have a look at http://wearethenewmedia.com/ – someone just pointed me onto that.
      
      What do you think of the Dow. Bollocks, ain’t it? Poor bastards about to lose their 401k’s. They have no idea.
      
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      March 2, 2017 9:25pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD ,
      
      Snow White , Donald Duck , Mickey Mouse etc sublimaal nefarious Jewish influences ?
      
      Visit your Doctor
      
      Meet the Jews in Trumps inner circle ,
      
      http://www.jta.org/2016/11/14/news-opinion/politics/meet-the-jews-in-donald-trumps-inner-circle
      
      Sigh …
      
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      March 2, 2017 9:51pm
- Longknives
  
  *Yawn! Bollocks it’s the first one- I’m pretty sure they made a huge song and dance about the Gay couple in Finding Dory?
  Sadly this is just going to do on and on until we have a Transgender Aladdin or something..
  
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  March 2, 2017 7:58pm
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    ….”or something”…..
    
    I don’t think that you’ll enjoy the remake of 101 Dalmations. 🙂
    
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    March 2, 2017 8:22pm
Fletch

Is anyone else sick of this “shooting stars” meme on Facebook? I don’t see the appeal.
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- sam green
  
  Get new Facebook friends.
  
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  March 2, 2017 11:01pm
reid3

March 2017: The end of a 100 year global debt super cycle is way overdue

Gah.

https://www.intellihub.com/march-2017-the-end-of-a-100-year-global-debt-super-cycle-is-way-overdue/
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