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mikenmild

Tip of the day: for a new gambling opportunity, try sending yourself a $50 note by NZ Post.
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March 15, 2017 8:02am
- Manolo
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:07am
  - mikenmild
    
    Corrected to “sending yourself” rather than “ending yourself”.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:12am
- Biscuit
  
  Mikenmild, I dunno what end you are trying to achieve here but any decent experiment needs a ‘control’.
  
  Get your followers to send ME at $50 note too so that we can see how many of both don’t arrive!
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:17am
  - pdm
    
    Should I try with $5?
    
    Or stick to the tried and true.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:46am
- thedavincimode
  
  A 50/50 at evens doesn’t sound like a gamble as much as stupidity milky. I gather you’ve had a very recent unfortunate experience.
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:40am
  - stigie
    
    Has Starboard been attending to Milky’s mother again..?
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:47am
    - thedavincimode
      
      I wasn’t referring to Starboard’s sexting. I was wondering if milky had been a victim of NZ Post stigie.
      
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      March 15, 2017 9:07am
- SGA
  
  Odd you should say that – I sent two small parcels on two separate occasions to the same person over the last three weeks. The first arrived in three days, the second… well it’s a week and counting.
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:09am
- VicParking
  
  If its worth more than the paper its written on dont send anything by post. All you are doing is giving Xmas presents to the NZ Post staff, contractors or people walking past your letter box. Courier and tick must be signed for by recipiant is the only safe way these days. I have a bus stop outside my gate and I find every day my mail box open. They evan steal my junk mail. (Blessing in disguise). I now get nothing by mail, email the bill or you wont get my business.
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:45am
  - Fletch
    
    Yeh, I wonder whether it’s worth ordering stuff thru Amazon now. Last time the order didn’t turn up and they had to send a replacement.
    
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    March 15, 2017 11:49am
- Rodney Randall
  
  One of Syd Barrett’s fav past times in post burnout years was to send cards to himself to check the mail service, that and having a fridge “full of pork chops”
  
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  March 15, 2017 12:01pm
  - Longknives
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnExahMPPFI
    
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    March 15, 2017 4:25pm
virtualmark

Trumpites!

Read this https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-13/kushners-set-to-get-400-million-from-chinese-on-marquee-tower

And then tell me whether you are honestly comfortable with this or not.
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March 15, 2017 8:03am
- virtualmark
  
  There’s more.
  
  The Chinese government has just granted Trump dozens of Trump-related trademarks after a decade of saying no.
  
  https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-14/scandal-fatigue-and-the-trump-ethical-swamp
  
  This is classical Chinese soft corruption. America used to object to this when China did it with countries like Fiji. But now America participates in it.
  
  An honest Republican house would sack Kushner and impeach Trump. But they’re too busy passing TrumpCare, which will make health insurance either unavailable or unaffordable to millions of the older rural voters who voted for Trump, while giving large tax cuts to the very very rich.
  
  Drain the swamp!
  
  #Make Trump Great Again!
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:04am
  - All_on_Red
    
    From your link
    ‘Jared Kushner, whom the Kushner family claims had already sold his stake in 666 Fifth Avenue to them ‘
    So Jared has sold out already.
    I see the editor of this skinny on fact article used to work for the New York Times and Huff Po.
    #TDS
    
    Meanwhile over at the Dems real evidence is emerging of Russia paying for influence to High Powered Democrat John Podestas brother.
    ‘Democrat super-lobbyist Tony Podesta was paid $170,000 over a six-month period last year to represent Sberbank, Russia’s largest bank, seeking to end one of the Obama administration’s economic sanctions against that country’
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/06/exclusive-dem-super-lobbyist-podesta-got-170k-to-end-us-sanctions-on-russian-bank/
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:33am
    - virtualmark
      
      Stop being so stupid.
      
      When Jared leaves the White House what job do you think he will go (back) to? What pool of money will he (does he) have access to?
      
      I see your $170,000 paid to a lobbyist (hint, that’s their job) and raise you $400 million paid to the family of the President by a foreign power.
      
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      March 15, 2017 8:36am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Oh so corruption is in the size of dollars.
        What an idiot. Here you have a clear link to Russia paying for a highly connected person to the Dems to lobby for a legislative change to end US Government Sanctions which could involve Billions.
        You’re a stupid ignorant fool
        #TDS
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:38am
      - virtualmark
        
        Yes. Corruption is largely about the size of the dollars.
        
        I can’t imagine any decision makers being influenced because Tony Podesta (who wasn’t one of those said decision makers) got $170,000.
        
        But I can imagine a lot more decision makers (and Kushner is actually in the White House) getting $400 million.
        
        Man, you Trumpets will swallow any amount of shit rather than accept anything might be wrong with your man eh? You really have sold your soul and your principles.
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:41am
      - All_on_Red
        
        You ‘can’t imagine’ because you are stupid and have TDS
        What an idiot.
        Money from a Russian Bank to John Podestas Brother! And you think that’s ok!
        Lol
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:46am
      - holysheet
        
        Talk about corruption, How do you justify obumma being paid a reported 20 million for a book deal.
        The fucker did nothing for the past 8 years, and yet gets this obscene amount of money.
        I bet he will not be sending any of it to the worlds poor any time soon. Yet again proof that these lefties are nothing more than hypocrites. Do as I say, not as I do.
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:04am
      - Ross12
        
        Tony Posestra runs the company owned by himself and John Podestra
        
        “In 1988, he and his brother Tony co-founded Podesta Associates, Inc., a Washington, D.C., “government relations and public affairs” lobbying firm. Now known as the Podesta Group, the firm “has close ties to the Democratic Party and the Obama administration [and] has been retained by some of the biggest corporations in the country, including Wal-Mart, BP and Lockheed Martin.”[11] ” Wikipedia
        
        Does that help you virtualmark ?
        
        What else could Kushner do besides sell his stake ?
        Where were you with your complaining when it was so clear what Hillary Clinton was doing while Secretary of State and the money was rolling into the Clinton Foundation –a flow which now appears to be drying up very quickly.
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:11am
      - virtualmark
        
        You guys really have no principles do you.
        
        Money from a Russian Bank to John Podestas Brother!
        
        Don’t like the look, but that is what lobbyists do. But lobbyists are not the Executive. Huge difference.
        
        How do you justify obumma being paid a reported 20 million for a book deal. The fucker did nothing for the past 8 years, and yet gets this obscene amount of money.
        
        I’m sure the publisher justifies it because they expect a book by Obama will sell in large numbers and more than recoup their $20m outlay. He was President for 8 years and people will be interested in his take on that time. I expect Trump too will end up with a big book deal for the exact same reasons.
        
        And calling him obumma and “the fucker” just makes you look like a ignorant wingnut.
        
        Where were you with your complaining when it was so clear what Hillary Clinton was doing while Secretary of State and the money was rolling into the Clinton Foundation –a flow which now appears to be drying up very quickly
        
        I’m no fan of the Clintons and I have no qualms saying they are corrupt. The Clinton Foundation is/was a swamp.
        
        But here’s where having principles comes in … I am equally uncomfortable with corruption wherever I see it and regardless of which part of the political spectrum it’s on. Trump is just as corrupt as the Clintons. I am happy to call that out. You are not.
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:51am
- Simon
  
  EPA head Scott Pruitt denies that carbon dioxide causes global warming. Scott Pruitt, Donald Trump’s head of the US Environmental Protection Agency,
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/09/epa-scott-pruitt-carbon-dioxide-global-warming-climate-change
  
  Winning
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:09am
  - krazykiwi
    
    The alarmist-supporting media really can’t get over that’s happened to their climate religion.
    
    And who knew… their headlines do not reflect what Pruitt said:
    
    “I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it’s a primary contributor to the global warming that we see,”
    
    A sentiment that I 100% agree. A sentiment that is supported by empirical evidence.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:32am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    An in-depth analysis of what EPA chief Scott Pruitt said
    https://judithcurry.com/2017/03/11/scott-pruitts-statement-on-climate-change/
    
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    March 15, 2017 9:31am
    - Nev.
      
      What a pity Griff isn’t here to call you a flibbertigibbet.
      
      Gibber gibber smeg.
      
      Nev.
      
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      March 15, 2017 10:00am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Feel free to call me one yourself Nev.
        
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        March 15, 2017 10:17am
      - Nev.
        
        I have way more class Maggy, and I make it a point to never insult people I think are smarter than myself.
        
        Nev.
        
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        March 15, 2017 10:37am
- Andrei
  
  The family of the President of the United State’s son in law are in negotiations to sell a property they own in Manhattan to a Chinese Investment company and this is a scandal?
  
  Or just an amazing amount of hot air
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:19am
  - virtualmark
    
    Andrei,
    
    The planned $4-billion transaction includes terms that some real estate experts consider unusually favorable for the Kushners. It provides them with […] a sizable cash payout from Anbang Insurance Group for a property that has struggled financially.
    
    The loan, which was made by Barclays Plc and has since been sold off to investors, is now valued at more than $250 million because of compounded interest. But according to the deal documents, the Kushners will settle the debt for just $50 million.
    
    said Larry Noble, general counsel at the Campaign Legal Center. “A classic way you influence people is by financially helping their family.”
    
    Yes Andrei. It should be a scandal. This is what corruption looks like. It’s just that they don’t make brown paper bags big enough for this amount of cash, so it’s done by contract instead.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:31am
    - All_on_Red
      
      What ‘Real Estate Experts?
      None are named in your article. This is just a shabby smear job.
      There’s been a property boom. Go figure they get more that they paid for it in 2007.Since 2012 most property has doubled in value.
      Fuck you’re thick
      
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      March 15, 2017 8:44am
      - stephieboy
        
        “Fuck you’re thick” Again the profound and deep thought states of All on Red .
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        Code for I’m getting really getting wound up and loosing the argument
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:59am
      - itstricky
        
        Code for I’m getting really getting wound up and loosing the argument
        
        Nah, it’s deeper than that.
        
        It’s a “I haven’t won unless I can put someone in their place” psychology bubbling to the surface.
        
        Or one those traits where one can’t attribute misunderstanding to communication break down, so don’t take the time to understand someone else’s thoughts and auto-assume it’s just because the other party is “thicker” than them.
        
        Quite like Trump, actually.
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:36am
      - virtualmark
        
        All_on_Red,
        
        This is just a shabby smear job.
        
        Yes, by that renowned left-wing smear site Bloomberg. All the left-wingers I know read Bloomberg. Not.
        
        Meanwhile all the people I work with in finance do read Bloomberg. For the smears, it’s basically a gossip rag. With numbers.
        
        /sarc
        
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        March 15, 2017 10:03am
- dime
  
  ya lost me at “trumpites”.
  
  something about ya catch more flies with honey?
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:12am
  - virtualmark
    
    What’s your preferred term then Dime?
    
    Every religion needs a name right?
    
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    March 15, 2017 9:55am
    - dime
      
      VM – depends what your goal is.
      
      if you want to win some trump supporters over, you may word it differently.
      
      if you just want to call trump supporters assholes and say nah nah nah i found something bad against him, then continue as you are.
      
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      March 15, 2017 10:55am
      - virtualmark
        
        Dime,
        
        I’m not trying to win Trump supporters over, because I can see that what they have is more of a religious belief than a rational one. And I’m not trying to call them assholes (but I’m also not going to accept being called similar things by them).
        
        But I’ve always believed Trump is unsuited to be President. And there is more and more evidence stacking up on that side of the ledger.
        
        So as a principled right-winger you have a choice to either swallow those principles and support him just because you’re tribal, or stand on your principles and call out the bad behaviour. I’m sad to find that most Kiwibloggers have opted for the first choice rather than the second one.
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:15am
      - dime
        
        so because i like trump and love how he messes with the media etc, im part of a religion?
        
        i think your threshold for religion is low
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:26am
      - virtualmark
        
        Dime,
        
        I’m starting to think Trump-ism is more and more like Scientology 🙂
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:43am
      - virtualmark
        
        And Dime, you just wait till Trump works out the tax advantages of founding his own religion … 🙂
        
        It worked for L Ron Hubbard!
        
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        March 15, 2017 12:33pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    The flies have eaten all the honey, are demanding more, and don’t appreciate any that is thrown their way and are still swarming.
    
    We’re way past honey, it’s time for the fly spray.
    
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    March 15, 2017 10:46am
    - dime
      
      lucia – become a follower of your commie pope eh?
      
      the dude who says we shouldnt have walls.. except for the 50 feet walls around his little paradise.
      
      not a lot of muslim refugees there either!
      
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      March 15, 2017 10:54am
      - Manolo
        
        Are you talking about the seller of smoke and defender/protector of paedophiles resident of Rome? 😀
        
        Il Papa e’ un traditore ed un vigliaco.
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:01am
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Dime,
        
        Are you seriously the same dime who told me you were so smart that you aced the uni aptitude test?
        
        You’ve been around long enough to know that I have been a follower of the pope since the last one.
        
        Pope Francis is not a commie, that is ridiculous.
        
        Pope Francis has never said we should never have walls.
        
        His “little paradise”, as you call it, every day is filled with people who don’t live there.
        
        No, there aren’t a lot of Muslim refugees in the Vatican – it’s tiny. Not much room there at all.
        
        Popes in days gone past were rulers of large domains, but Italian unification reduced them to just a ruler of a small city state, and moral guardian of the world.
        
        Honestly, has your brain melted, or something? Or is it the Trumpet effect?
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:35am
      - Deadly pony
        
        800 people live in vatican city. You can only become a citizen when you are there in a working capacity and your citizenship is revoked when you finish your time of employment. Maybe the pope has something to teach us about immigration management. While working there you can extend the citizenship to your spouse at the same time though that citizenship is void should your marriage be annulled. Has anyone heard from Mona Dotcom lately?
        
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        March 15, 2017 1:07pm
    - Komata
      
      L M
      
      Or the suction dredge to drain the swamp…
      
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      March 15, 2017 10:58am
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Yep, things are getting desperate.
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:42am
- Fletch
  
  That reminds me – I think I have some Tip-Top Trumpets in the freezer…
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:11pm
duggledog

Fed’s going to put up interest rates

Trump going to start a trade war with China

EU will collapse

UN will collapse

Walls and protectionism going up

Look out NZ, stormy weather coming. Our economy is all sweet so long as global conditions don’t change…

But they’re going to change, and we’ll be caught out sure as eggs. Should have addressed our fundamental problems of dependence and productivity when Key had the opportunity.
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March 15, 2017 8:04am
- virtualmark
  
  Trump’s not going to start a trade war with China.
  
  See my two posts above. China has Trump’s number. They’re more subtle than the Russians, and they know Trump’s weakness (hint, it’s money).
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:09am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep, as subtle as a tank in Tian An Men Square.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:26am
- VicParking
  
  Dont for get that the sky will fall in and chicken little will come out as gay and his marrage to hen len was a sham
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:50am
oldpark

Saw an “angry face” on TVNZs “news” last night.A person from the so called “green party” who answers to ME-TU .It is not hard to see why the greens/Liebour Party decided to join both at the hip. The “green party” person is a perfect foil for Angry Andy Little,green/liebour party are hell bent,on running NZ. Seems looking and listening at both suspects ,the only running they are capable of doing is running off at the mouth.
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March 15, 2017 8:09am
- Soffet
  
  What amuses me is how the TVNZ reporters talk to Andy about what he’s going to do as PM as if it’s a matter of time that Labour/Greens will be elected.
  
  Wonder if that’s the new approach by the Media: Just assume their guys are going to win and that’s that. Last time they slagged off John Key based on Hagar’s ‘orrible book – didn’t work – so they’ve re-thought the way they’ll do things? Or I’m being paranoid and it’s time for a cuppa.
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:01am
EAD

An utterly brilliant article from Jim Goad over on Takimag in their feature series on what they describe as the biggest issue of our time: “Globalism”:

As far as I can tell, globalism is a scheme concocted by the rich to destroy the working and middle classes through worldwide financial imperialism.

Indeed – we’ve only been able to keep up appearances by borrowing eye-watering sums and families having 2 breadwinners whereas a middle class lifestyle of 2 generations ago could be achieved by one without 30 year mortgage, student debt, credit cards etc.

I have a strong hunch that globalism is also a plot hatched to obliterate indigenous cultures and real human differences under the deceptive ruses of “multiculturalism” and “diversity.”

What is euphemistically called “diversity” is really “confirmity”, especially in large cities. Can Paris really be called Paris if your main encounters are with Arabs and Africans rather than French Parisians?

This is why I’m confused whenever I hear someone say they hate “the rich,” oppose “imperialism,” and support “the working class” while being an unquestioning cheerleader for open borders and global government……

It shows how intellectually bankrupt so much “left vs. right” political debate is. The white working class have gone from the the whole raison d’etre of the “Left” to being enemy #1.

Those who’ve lived most of their lives with a sad and simple choice between working and starving can feel the disdain that the sneering global elites have not only for them personally, but for their culture and their humanity and their very existence.

Whatever jobs these wealth-crazed control freaks couldn’t pack into wooden crates and send overseas, they are more than happy to undercut wages here by importing “migrants” both legal and illegal who have nothing in common with you culturally and are trained to deride you as an evolutionary throwback if you dare to complain that the elites are laughing in your face as they pull the rug out from under you.

I guess most people who comment on here don’t compete at the blue collar end of the job market and have escaped the worst of what’s happened but it must be pretty galling to see no real wage increases since the 80’s and being told you’re lazy because you must now compete in a job market with 3rd worlders who will work for the minimum wage that is enough to rent, let alone buy a place.

Globalism replaces First World workers with Third World workers and calls them “racists”—the modern equivalent of “niggers”—if they dare to make a peep about it. While it may be a boon for transnational financiers and manual laborers in Malaysia, for workers throughout the West, globalism has been a trapdoor through which they are likely to hang swinging at any moment.

This “racist” castigation is only recent phenomenon in NZ compared to say Britain and is being pushed by the MSM & Devoy etc. but already I see the huge divides this is creating in our society. It needs to stop-loss we follow others disastrous path.

But as many of us are learning, the mere act of realizing you’re being fucked over—much less trying to stop it from happening—automatically makes you a Nazi and an anti-Semite and a white supremacist and a toothless, low-information rube who needs to be replaced on the assembly line by someone with more melanin and less money

Nowhere was this more evident than post Trump. The violence, subversion & hate directed at decent law abiding citizens.

As I say, it is no longer “right vs. left” but right vs. wrong. Globalism is a disease that will destroy us of we don’t destroy it. We’ll end up like Brazil in 20 years if something doesn’t change here in NZ.

Continue reading @

http://takimag.com/article/whats_so_bad_about_globalism_jim_goad#axzz4bKJvZpDh
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March 15, 2017 8:13am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  If the “elites” are the farmers, and the people are their livestock, which would be more productive? Would it be “1950s-style half-gallon, quarter-acre, free-range paradise” or the “2010s multicultural battery-hen” approach? Which approach would produce the greatest yield to the farmer?
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:22am
  - Komata
    
    OD-S
    
    The analogy is an apt one, and should the ‘hens’ demand even more ‘batteries’ then who is to deny them?
    
    Thank you.
    
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    March 15, 2017 11:04am
- EAD
  
  EDIT: I deliberately left out the final few paragraphs which are the best of the article.
  
  And when I mean, we’ll end up like Brazil – I don’t mean sun-kissed beaches with a smattering of babes, but rather a hedonistic, violent society with no commom values where the top 1% live in gated communities nearby masses of debt slaves in high rise apartments. It’ll be Agenda 21 by copybook.
  
  @ Odakyu – snap! “Battery Hens” is a perfect description to my allusion to rootless individuals living in high rise apartments travelling for hours in cars in congested cities in order to repay debt.
  
  I don’t think people can comprehend the change that this type of environment brings on the psychology of a “nation” or people.
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:23am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, who are you voting for on the 23rd ?
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:27am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD , re Globalism . Dem Jooz must be a very , very busy lot ?
  
  Sigh
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:41am
- Lance
  
  I’m still waiting for that financial collapse you promised us EAD
  It’s more than a bit over due
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:00am
  - EAD
    
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/21/un-fears-third-leg-of-the-global-financial-crisis-with-epic-debt/
    
    UN fears third leg of the global financial crisis – with prospect of epic debt defaults
    
    Indeed – the longer they keep up the money printing and suppressed interest rates, rather than allow correction, the bigger the snapback is going to be.
    
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    March 15, 2017 10:17am
Simon

Got into an argument with a Trump hater. Fucking Samsung “smart” TV. Yeah right.
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March 15, 2017 8:15am
- itstricky
  
  Got rid of your microwave yet?
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:38am
  - kowtow
    
    Might want to get rid of this……..
    
    “Sex toy maker We-Vibe has agreed to pay customers up to C$10,000 (£6,120) each after shipping a “smart vibrator” which tracked owners’ use without their knowledge.”
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/14/we-vibe-vibrator-tracking-users-sexual-habits
    
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    March 15, 2017 10:51am
    - SGA
      
      Good to see NZers are doing something useful with their spare time –
      
      The flaws with the We-Vibe sex toy were first revealed at the Def Con hacking conference in Las Vegas in 2016 by New Zealand-based hackers “goldfisk” and “follower”.
      
      (from your link)
      
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      March 15, 2017 1:04pm
holysheet

Following on from yesterdays debate about free range eggs and their veracity. In the need for evidence of truthfulness in advertising, Mrs Holy and I were watching an advert on TV for Nivea Firming body oil.
If this product is as good as its advertising says, Mrs Holy suggested I get some to put on that part of my body that, in her opinion needs firming.
From the Nivea website;

“New NIVEA 4 in 1 Firming Body Oil with Q10 reduces the appearance of stretch marks, nourishes intensively, evens skin tone and gives you noticeably firmer skin in just 2 weeks! Our unique fast absorbing formula with coenzyme Q10, Avocado Oil, Cottonseed Oil and Macadamia Oil, will help prevent sagging skin to give you firmer, even looking and beautiful skin. See what other women are saying below, and discover the firming power of NIVEA 4 in 1 Firming Body Oil for yourself”.

I like the claim it helps prevent sagging skin. I wonder how deep this oil would need to penetrate to have the desired affect?
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March 15, 2017 8:18am
- kowtow
  
  I like the ones where the banks and insurance companies say they’re here to help and are on your side, bwahahahaha.
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:29am
- stephieboy
  
  holysheet , I thought NIVEA 4 in 1 Firming Body Oil would be an essential part of your personal fight against aging , saggy breasts and wrinkly skin etc ?
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:38am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Does it come in a blue colour or is just the container that is blue?
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:00am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Someone in the “free range” business told me that the hens are indoors, but by law, the enclosure doors must be open for a certain number of hours per day for them to qualify for “free range” status. (Of course, the chickens are too scared to venture outside during this time.)
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:30am
Hugh Pavletich

… New Zealands traffic management disaster … continued … nothing new here folks ! …

… For a small country of just 4.7 million people (less than Sydney) and a land area about the size of the United Kingdom … REALLY ? !

Four weeks a year in traffic – Auckland’s congestion now beats Hong Kong’s | 1 NEWS NOW | TVNZ

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/four-weeks-year-in-traffic-aucklands-congestion-now-beats-hong-kongs?auto=5359126090001

Traffic woes for Kiwi drivers aren’t going away, with new figures showing we have worse congestion than Australia, and that Auckland motorists face slower roads than Hong Kong. … view and read more via hyperlink above …

Anger at ‘An Accessible City’ central Christchurch traffic plan … Liz McDonald … The Press

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/90413666/anger-at-an-accessible-city-central-christchurch-traffic-plan

… Pavletich comment on The Press article thread below … in moderation …

Last November the Ministry for Business, Innovation and Employment issued a short regional economic report, illustrating over the past 10 years, the compound employment growth for Christchurch City Council area has been a shocking quarter the national average. During that time Waimakariri compound employment growth has been four times and Selwyn an astronomical seven times !

Put simply … people and businesses are fleeing the ungovernable and dysfunctional bloated bureaucracy of the Christchurch Council for the soundly governed and much better managed smaller Council areas.

The focus of urban planning must be on maintaining and restoring affordability and mobility. Getting the basics right..

There are two types of local government in this world … the small and the bad. The Christchurch business people sure are extremely slow learners !
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March 15, 2017 8:19am
- Notsofast
  
  Good work Hugh.
  You will be less than elated that the population of the town has been instructed to increase by a million without the workings being shown.
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:41am
- holysheet
  
  I see now that Hugh has fixed our housing crisis, he’s got his sights on fixing the traffic crisis.
  You go, you good thing you.
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:57am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Further extensive postings on this earlier KB thread …
  
  http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/03/have_house_prices_peaked.html/comment-page-1#comment-1890680
  
  Have you read Phil Twyfords Op Ed in today’s NZ Herald ‘Bonds could break infrastructure logjam’ ?
  
  Lets hope it comes online soon.
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:08am
wiseowl

Diddly squat Smith.

I have a mate who has ten acres not far from a new water bottling plant.
This plant extracts millions of litres and produces nothing.

My mate has a few sheep and cattle.
He had to spend $4500 to change the well head so a meter could be installed to comply with Smiths demands that every well had to have a meter.
He has monitoring fees ,annual fees and has to send a usage report to council EVERYDAY .
He only irrigates a few times a year and the council are hounding him for his nil returns.
Repeat this around the country and you see huge amounts coughed up to councils for nothing.
If Smith thinks the take by the water bottling plant is diddly squat then the amount taken by the small producers is infinitesmal but is incurring disproportionate costs.
His latest Resouce legislation changes are a total disgrace.
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March 15, 2017 8:23am
- waikatogirl
  
  Nick Smith was not helpful last night. He came over as arrogant and not interested in NZ’ers concerns, stating there was no issue with NZ water being sold overseas. Given that pure NZ water is being pumped out and sold overseas while we are regularly and earnestly told that farmers are to blame for overusing water irrigating their farms, and the less than perfect rivers in some areas.
  Mr Smith this is an election year!
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:17am
- VicParking
  
  If you charge the overseas companies you will also need to charge the local ones. The beweries, the dairy factories, the councils, food processors, meat works etc. the price of goods will go up. Who will get the money? The council, the government. The administration costs will be through the roof. All for 0.0004% of our water.
  Like most Greeny initiated policies the cost of administration and alternatives cause more polution than the problem.
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:01am
Notsofast

It is ironic that the Kirsty Bentley murder case surfaces again as a cold case

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11818088

due simply to the fact no one is in prison. The ultimate irony must be the killers of Christine and Amber Lundy being allowed to roam, and the case considered solved due to a quirk allowing bogus evidence and sleight of hand and a guilty verdict delivered by 12 persons deceived, to allow the case to be deemed solved.
Wrong, people of Palmerston North, and do any of you care that your district commander Sue Schwalger deemed the same to be true when declaring she would not look for the killers of Scott Guy, even after the late Greg King proved she had arrested the wrong guy?
This was 10 kilometers away, and 10 years on.
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March 15, 2017 8:32am
- stephieboy
  
  Who do you think the serial killer is ? Struck again recently ?
  
  LOL
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:35am
  - Notsofast
    
    I have a few ideas. I don’t regard this as serial killing, but I am broadly certain the killings were committed by people who use methamphetamine, and operate on specific instructions, but fuck things up completely.
    In other words Mark Lundy and Ewan MacDonald were targets.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:43am
    - stephieboy
      
      Notsofast , just try and focus on the facts from now on and not your more typical fanciful specualting.
      
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      March 15, 2017 8:54am
      - Notsofast
        
        Here are some facts then
        1. The defence witness in MacDonald heard 3 successive gunshots at 5 am, the same time as MacDonald was disabling a cowshed alarm. She was the local gun club champion so understands gun shots. The gun Ewan had theoretical access to needed reloading after shot 2.
        The jury understood this, so said de facto that someone else shot Scott Guy.
        2. The time between filing and acceptance in the privy council for Mark Lundy was the shortest in 180 years at the privy council, and they focussed heavily on the tissue claimed to be brain. They noted it was rotten and unrecognisable by New Zealand scientists, and that Rod Miller from Texas was unqualified as a forensic scientist.
        3. Jono Galushka was the third full time journalist besides Mike White and Steve Braunias to cover the Lundy trial. He declares that if the brain is gone the crown case is gone. Steve and Mike have gone as close as New Zealand journalists go to declaring Mark innocent, and they, (I understand), have read extensive case material unseen by the public. The importance of this is that the petrol and time of death problems resolve and Mark’s alibi in Petone has integrity.
        4. Malcolm Rewa did kill Susan Burdett and New Zealand juries and appeal courts fingered the wrong man.
        5. Len Demler did kill Jeanette and Harvey Crewe and New Zealand juries and appeal courts fingered the wrong man.
        6. David Tamihere did not kill the Swedish tourists yet a new Zealand jury and an Appeal Court said he did.
        7. David Bain ditto, though flat earthers around here do not understand the import of the initial pathologist Dempster immediately writing down it was a contact wound with a clearly defined 10 mil circle of soot surrounding the sole gun shot wound to Robin’s temple.
        
        So you trust the police case in the Lundy trials? It is the same pattern.
        How could you accept it as a closed case, and accept the killers are allowed to run free?
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:40am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      But Ewen MacDonald’s not dead. Are you thinking of Scott Guy?
      Don’t let your conspiracy theories confuse your brain.
      
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      March 15, 2017 9:20am
      - waikatogirl
        
        No Captain, I’m sure NsF meant along with Mark Lundy, Ewan MacDonald was targeted by a meth head who was sent on a secret mission to sully their good names by committing murders!
        
        It’s all a mistake, they have both been wrongly convicted. It was the meth head! // ?
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:30am
      - Notsofast
        
        No, but once we accept that MacDonald had an alibi, and that it looked like a targeted killing, a motive is needed. MacDonald had made gangster enemies by trampling their turf. He himself has said he was probably the target.
        Nothing could be found to suggest that Scott Guy was a target.
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:43am
      - Notsofast
        
        waikatogirl:
        I am surprised at your obtuseness. There is very very solid proof that Mark Lundy and Ewan McDonald did not do these crimes. They happened nearby, and were not random killings, so we must look for a reason. They are probably only related in the sense the police arrested the wrong people. The Lundy killings look like meth crimes if you consider the scene with the blood shadow and the savagery, yet it was not a random home invasion, as some patience was needed at the crime scene. It has been repeatedly pointed out that Lundy was in the middle of a debt scene where people were getting impatient to be paid. A name suppressed witness, now deceased, had given Lundy an invoice for 500k, and touted this paperwork to promise others they would be paid when Lundy paid him. The crime flowed from these circumstances.
        The police should reopen the case, it can be solved.
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:50am
- Longknives
  
  Evil Reptilian Shapeshifters killed them all..
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:48am
  - Notsofast
    
    At least you present a theory. You stand alone in this incurious neck of the woods.
    
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    March 15, 2017 10:32am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      At least you present a theory.
      
      As do you Notsofast. And might I say, the theory you present is a pretty far-fetched one. Certainly two High Court juries rejected the defence arguments on behalf of Lundy, who in my considered opinion is exactly where he should be; behind bars.
      
      Those juries didn’t even have to accept “very solid proof” of Lundy’s innocence. All that required was that the defence show there was reasonable doubt as to the Crown’s case. That neither did so, and that Lundy was twice found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by juries of his peers suggests that he is indeed guilty, despite your strident pleas on his behalf.
      
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      March 15, 2017 11:54am
      - Notsofast
        
        As I pointed out the same is true of Arthur Thomas and Teina Pora, so there are fine precedents for dual processes getting the wrong answer.
        In the first Lundy trial the defence conceded it was human brain on the shirt, so the jury had little chance but to convict.
        In the second trial the defence refused to attack Immunohistochemistry as a procedure.
        This was a disgraceful matter, because it is an illegal process in America, and is allowable only on material which is removed from a known organ, immediately preserved in formalin, and then the science is supposed to differentiate diseases afflicting that organ. This is totally different to what Rod Miller did. The jury had to work with an inadequate defence. I know all the details of who argued what within that three person team, and they are responsible for losing the trial.
        The other failing concerns the dna of more than one unknown male beneath the fingernails of the victims. David Hislop made a good fist of presenting this, but Justice France left it from his summing up, and Hislop failed to draw this to his attention, so the jury retired regarding this as unimportant evidence.
        Is it though, because foreign dna has a very short life under fingernails, due to ordinary hand washing. Their hands had not been washed since this dna arrived, therefore it is probably that of the killer.
        I realise this is seismic stuff for your Palmerston North friends who want to forget the case, but this is impossible. I feel sorry for Craig Lundy for accepting the police fabricated story, but the sooner he fronts the facts as his sister has, the better he will make the transition.
        This is a train wreck designed by the Palmerston North police force.
        
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        March 15, 2017 2:24pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Are you saying Hillary Clinton (or a close relative) was involved ??!!??!
    
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    March 15, 2017 10:58am
stephieboy

” A U.S. aircraft carrier strike group has begun patrols in the South China Sea, the U.S. navy said on Saturday, amid renewed tension over the disputed waterway.

China’s Foreign Ministry on Wednesday warned Washington against challenging its sovereignty, responding to reports the
U.S. was planning fresh naval patrols in the South China Sea.

The navy said the force, including Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, began routine operations in the South
China Sea on Saturday. …”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/south-china-sea-u-s-patrols-1.3
990145

More President Trump sabre rattling as things heat up and China calls in their Trillion dollar loans ?

The President retaliates with punitive tariffs causing the cost of living to soar at home …?

And ….. ?
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March 15, 2017 8:33am
- Kiwi Dave
  
  For decades the US navy has asserted freedom of navigation in international waters, something which a small island nation heavily dependent on trade should support. The fleet’s passage through the South China Sea is fully consistent with the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, to which China is a signatory; China’s activities and territorial claims are not consistent with the Convention.
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:24am
- VicParking
  
  It takes months to organise and deploy a task force so its a good chance this was organised and approved by Obama$$$.
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:04am
- realityczech
  
  Obama soured things with China shortly after restarting the Cold War.
  
  That disgusting filthy dirty animal is gone, but the harm it caused can not be fixed over night.
  
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  March 15, 2017 5:36pm
JasonJohns

The days of Muslims in Holland are limited. Geert Wilders is on course to win and he has taken the principled position of saying he will ban and destroy korans and all other pro-Muslim propaganda and shut all mosques.

Get those bonfires ready. Freedom’s coming back to Europe.
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March 15, 2017 8:44am
- stephieboy
  
  History in the making again,
  
  https://userscontent2.emaze.com/images/32c6f389-704c-4d77-9667-47fa80243955/e8c4a72d5c502d37781c16bd4f98b0fe.jpg
  
  Lets burn the books . Yay !
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:51am
  - Manolo
    
    @stephieboy: without agreeing with the proposed burning of the Quran and shutting mosques, you can see why your beloved, but intolerant, violent and primitive, Islam has created such opposition in Europe.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:59am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      How you can claim an erudite knowledge in cosmology and at the same time display stupid ignorance ,paranoia and hysteria is beyond belief .
      
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      March 15, 2017 9:04am
      - Manolo
        
        Let’s discuss the adjectives I used on Islam: 1) intolerant; 2) violent; and 3) primitive. Shall we?
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:15am
      - stephieboy
        
        Manolo, certain adherents to the faith are violent and intolerant such as ISIS or Al Qeada ,but not all of the 1.6 billion of them ,including the overwhelming majority of the c 50,000 who live here .
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:38am
  - Inandout
    
    Another stephie lazy comparison.
    
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    March 15, 2017 9:29am
- Komata
  
  JJ
  
  Re: ‘Freedom’s coming back to Europe’
  
  One hopes that that that is the case, but given the various ‘vested interests’ which inhabit Brussels and Berlin, it could be a case of ‘The battle has just begun…’. BTW, Within Holland there is a large group descended from residents of the former Dutch East Indies who, although Dutch citizens, are frequently Muslim. Such people may not see Mr Wilders as doing them any favours..
  
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  March 15, 2017 11:34am
- Tirebiter
  
  Freedom defined as the freedom to burn books with which you don’t agree doesn’t sound that admirable a desire to me – particularly in a country in which you don’t live. Haven’t we had enough of people telling other people how to run their lives?
  
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  March 17, 2017 3:06am
krazykiwi

Scientists discover how to ‘upload knowledge to your brain’

Feeding knowledge directly into your brain, just like in sci-fi classic The Matrix, could soon take as much effort as falling asleep, scientists believe.

Researchers claim to have developed a simulator which can feed information directly into a person’s brain and teach them new skills in a shorter amount of time, comparing it to “life imitating art”.

A great opportunity for some of our more vacuous MPs.
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March 15, 2017 8:47am
- holysheet
  
  Read that Stupidboy? Start looking for your brain. By the time you find it, these scientists will have discovered how you can fill it with something better than the shit you have there now.
  Shit for brains comes to mind.
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:10am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @krazykiwi
  
  I think “The Telegraph” has jumped the gun….
  read the original paper here
  http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnhum.2016.00034/full
  
  Most interesting revelation is at the end of the paper…
  all the Male subjects were from a WEIRD population pool
  (Western Educated Industrialised Rich Democratic)
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:04am
- VicParking
  
  You need a brain first which rules out most MPs
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:06am
Manolo

Some are coming our way, but not to Mt Roskill:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/73face5fc302415881f9262dd52efd38/us-applications-new-zealand-citizenship-jump-70-percent

In New Zealand, the number of Americans who applied for a grant of citizenship rose to 170 in the 12 weeks following the election of President Donald Trump from 100 in the same period a year earlier, immigration records obtained by The Associated Press show.
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March 15, 2017 8:49am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Of course, the story only belatedly mentions that to become a New Zealand citizen, you need to have been a permanent resident for five years. So those applying for citizenship now had actually applied for New Zealand residence during the first term of the Obama presidency, or earlier.
  
  Once again, the media manages to conflate issues, suggesting a flood of Americans seeking to flee Trump when in fact those applying had already left the Land of the Free.
  
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  March 15, 2017 11:59am
Huevon

Auckland is fundamentally screwed.
*flooding reveals billions are needed to upgrade stormwater drains
*said billions are already committed to building/ improving roads, public transport, other infrastructure
*council is dependent on ratepayers with no appetite to pay more rates
*mass immigration continues to grow the city with low value immigrants putting more pressure on dilapidated infrastructure
*said immigrants can’t actually afford to live in Auckland but it’s better than the shitholes they come from
*native NZers who can leave, are leaving. Less teachers, police, workers etc
*more immigrants to plug gaps
*there is still only one road in and out of the city
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March 15, 2017 8:57am
- Lance
  
  Oh bullshit Huevon
  
  It is a rapidly growing city, there has been some poor planning but things are being put right, albeit slower than people would like and the immigration boom doesn’t help
  
  Every decent size city has issues
  
  I personally would like to see the traffic planners sacked for their pathetic screw up of West Auckland traffic and some grown ups employed instead who know that if you screw up traffic lights then the traffic jams.
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:07am
- EAD
  
  Well said Huevon – the truth laid out simply and succienctly serves as a devastating critique
  
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  March 15, 2017 9:42am
- VicParking
  
  Great road, Used it two years ago
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:07am
- Komata
  
  Huevon
  
  The solution is, of course, to build a stadium (perhaps even more) on the waterfront and by showing the shear vision and forward thinking of the Mayor and Council both awe the populace and distract them from their misery.
  
  ‘Bread and Circuses’ worked for the Roman Emperors, so why not the self-important and (not) very Imperial and ‘majestic’ ‘Auckland Emperor’, Mr Goff’ (although he IS only ‘Royal’ in his sown mind)
  
  (Do you think the locals will fall for it?? They seem to be very, very gullible)
  
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  March 15, 2017 11:40am
Michael

Not so, Notso.
Mark Lundy murdered his wife and child.
And Greg King did not prove that the wrong guy was arrested.
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March 15, 2017 9:12am
Manolo

At last the Dutch are finding some spine:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/14/increasingly-hysterical-comments-from-turkeys-erdogan-are-unacceptable-netherlands-pm.html

Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte told CNBC on Tuesday that Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan was “totally off the mark” when he recently compared the Dutch to Nazis and had behaved in an “increasingly hysterical” manner.
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March 15, 2017 9:18am
cas

A couple of random thoughts and apologies if they’ve been raised before.

1 Paddy Gower on TV a couple of nights ago was standing in front of a Parliament which had been reversed i.e. Beehive on the right and Parliament on the left. Should that tell us anything?

2 As part of Angry Andy’s makeover has he had a hair transplant or is he is just combing all of his hair to the front of his head to minimise the receding line?
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March 15, 2017 9:21am
Inandout

On Fox a white ‘film maker’ was interviewed by a woman journalist. He was doing a movie on blacks and crime, and how the police ‘pick on them’ because they are black; the usual story. Anyhow this film maker was clearly unhinged and was screaming and writhing in his seat, his head swinging from side to side. His theory on where the bullet went on Brown’s head has been discounted by investigators; another snowflake lie.

Anyway, it’s all here:

http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/03/13/michael-brown-documentary-filmmaker-loses-fox-news-interview-martha-maccallum/
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March 15, 2017 9:23am
JasonJohns

Geert Wilders is very clear. The Koran will be banned. All copies of the book will be removed from libraries and bookstores. If any liberals want to be martyrs then they can walk around holding Korans and face jail time.

And mosques are gone. Some Muslims might try holding mosques services at home but under the proposed law they will face prosecution too.

Islam will be banned from Holland. Freedom can then reign again.

Uptick if you support Geert!
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March 15, 2017 9:26am
- kowtow
  
  All or nearly all the “Establishment” parties will form a coalition to keep Wilders out. The same thing happens to LePen in France ( in the final run off the left vote for the so called right and vice versa to ensure no real change) and there are other examples in other European states.
  
  In essence the Establishment is very comfortable with the Islamicisation of Europe through mass and now illegal Muslim migration.
  
  The ruling elites of Europe are traitors to their own people , culture and civilisation.
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:17am
- Komata
  
  JJ
  
  See my comment @ 1134.
  
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  March 15, 2017 11:46am
MCos

“native NZers who can leave, are leaving.”
“Better than the shitholes they come from”
Biggest group of permanent immigrants are returning Kiwis from Australia, followed by UK citizens.
I was in the UK for a month recently. Looked like quite a nice place although the coffee was pretty ordinary.
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March 15, 2017 9:28am
JasonJohns

Muslims must be placed in an inferior legal status, just as they wish for us. A “jizya” tax, something they have adored over the centuries, must be levied on them and all public support terminated.

Every 100 families must be responsible for each family member. Political activity, and offenses against property and persons, Muslims or non-Muslims, must lead to deportation of the Hundred. Trains from all over Europe must run as frequently as necessary to deliver Muslims being repatriated to Turkey.

Muslim families who have one female who has been mutilated must be instantly deported and the male head of family imprisoned for 15 years. Muslims must abjure in 90 days or be deported. Imams, Koranic scholars, and any Muslims who have been politically active must be immediately isolated and deported. Period. Mosques must be torn down. Possession of a Koran must be made a felony.

Muslims who abjure might rise to a slightly higher status but be subject to instant removal upon evidence of false swearing.

Anything less than this is just prolonging the agony.
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March 15, 2017 9:28am
JasonJohns

I disagree with Geert Wilders on one point. He says all Korans must be destroyed. I would prefer to keep a very small number in secure locations for study by trustworthy national security personnel. We have to be able to understand the enemy. But no question that Geert is right to seek to remove the Koran from all public places, especially bookshops and libraries.
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March 15, 2017 9:32am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It’s not the Koran that’s the problem but the way its teachings are interpreted and acted upon.
  You can find plenty of “kill any … who …” passages in the English translations of the Old Testament of the Bible.
  The point is that Christians choose not to follow these passages to the letter. Islam must do likewise and become secular, or risk banning on the grounds of being a dangerous political movement.
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:15pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Odakyu -sen , could be that people in the West have adopted a more secular and progressive outlook and simply don’t believe a lot of what is in the Bible ?
    
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    March 15, 2017 1:20pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      I think that Christians have learned to use their God-given free will, their power to tell right from wrong and their ability to consider the consequences of their actions, rather than to simply obey blindly the dictates of some “religious leader.”
      Know that the English Bible is a translation of a translation of a translation, and that words are only the symbols for the underlying concepts of the text.
      
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      March 15, 2017 2:52pm
    - Tirebiter
      
      Except in America where religious fundamentalism – in this case christian fundamentalism – is in full flower. And just as destructive to society.
      
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      March 16, 2017 2:40am
Manolo

All is relative, dear Kimbo: “Einstein’s mirror” by Tony Hey.
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March 15, 2017 9:38am
- Kimbo
  
  Don’t tell the fundamentalists that! 😉
  
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  March 15, 2017 11:00am
Inandout

Not a good look for National, and where was Scuttler McCully hiding yesterday?

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/03/winston-asks-right-questions-shame-mccully-cowering-desk-somewhere/
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March 15, 2017 9:39am
- Ambergris
  
  I am not a political expert like the proprietor of Whaleoil but I was watching question time yesterday. My conclusion was somewhat different. I thought Peter’s came across as a bumbling idiot which allowed Brownlie to be a smart ass with him.
  
  Slater has already stated on the record that he is likely to vote for NZ First this year. He has his reasons and it’s his right to do as he chooses.
  
  I find it strange that he and others who claim to be to the right of National would contemplate voting for NZF who let’s face it might just as easily go with Labour after the election as National. Nor do I see how such people can see NZF as providing anything other than an obstacle to National getting through a sensible legislative programme.
  
  I suspect that in Slater’s case the reasoning has more to do with his bitterness towards English and Key than anything else. But to see others hanging on his every word is puzzling to say the least.
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:28am
  - Inandout
    
    Perhaps I am not a McCully fan so I am a bit biased. I consider him a slippery, dishonest, self seeking creep.
    
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    March 15, 2017 11:20am
    - Happychappy
      
      But you have to ask how far passed his used by date Winston is when he can’t remember you have to ask the Primary Question first. The great NZ answer to Trump is losing his marbles.
      
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      March 15, 2017 1:22pm
JasonJohns

In NZ the population of Muslims will keep rising to the magic 5% mark even without new immigrants, thanks to a high birthrate.

Possible solutions: deportation of fertile men to offshore islands (Campbell Island?)

Incentives from the state to sterilise men and women

Compulsory sterilisation

All these tactics have been tried before with subversive minorities and worked.

Any more drastic suggestions?
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March 15, 2017 9:45am
- JasonJohns
  
  Thanks for the upticks. Good to know once again that people are prepared to think the ‘unthinkable’. Like Trump says, we are going to have do some things we never thought of doing in the old days.
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:07am
  - itstricky
    
    Snore.
    
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    March 15, 2017 10:10am
    - Jack5
      
      Itstricky, the dull troll. Dialectical Marxism put small brain into coma.
      
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      March 15, 2017 10:19am
      - itstricky
        
        “Compulsory sterilisation and whatever drastic things you can come up with” and I’m the troll?
        
        I like your comedic style.
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:47am
- krazykiwi
  
  All these tactics have been tried before with subversive minorities and worked
  Worked on the Kurds? Rohingyas? Cyrenaicas? Jews? Baha’is?
  
  Any more drastic suggestions?
  Yes. Join the 21st century, and get some perspective
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:24am
  - Lance
    
    I am not sure if this has come up before…..
    
    Is JasonJohns the resurrected Redbaiter ?
    
    Because he’s just as batshit crazy and fanatical as dear Reddy and the words and writing styles seem remarkably similar
    
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    March 15, 2017 10:45am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Personally I suspect a rather laboured piece of trolling. Someone like “itstricky” or whoever.
      
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      March 15, 2017 11:03am
      - itstricky
        
        LOLz
        
        Not according to Jack. Supposedly I am too dull and dim to take in JasonJohn’s “sophisticated” arguments, let alone come up with them in the first place.
        
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        March 15, 2017 11:51am
    - Nev.
      
      If JasonJohns is Redbaiter then who is Kea masquerading as?
      
      Really makes you think.
      
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      March 15, 2017 12:02pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Kea can multitask….
        
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        March 15, 2017 12:47pm
- stephieboy
  
  “Muslims will keep rising to the magic 5% mark even without new immigrants, thanks to a high birthrate.”
  
  Bullox ! Source ?
  
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  March 15, 2017 11:42am
  - krazykiwi
    
    It’s probably not bollocks, but more likely ages away. In the latest NZ census around 46,000 people Zealand identified as belonging to Islam, double the number in 2001.
    
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    March 15, 2017 12:10pm
  - Jack5
    
    Four wives, and the husband has all the say, so he can bang out four kids a year. Some Muslims in NZ are practising polygamists.
    
    When it comes to breeding, Muslims compare to average Kiwis as Finnish Landrace sheep do to our traditional sheep types, such as Romneys.
    
    Too bad the Muslims weren’t more into quality over quantity. If they had fewer kids and Muslim first cousins stopped marrying, Islamicists might be surprised by the lift in their community’s ability.
    
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    March 15, 2017 1:46pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack5 , well informed as usual. Over the garden fence neighbour goss or do you have a factual source ?
      
      BTW thought of formng a ” Dads Army ” Coastal watch to inform on the imminent arrival of boat people to our shores .
      
      Possibly a good Project Veritas doco
      
      LOL !
      
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      March 15, 2017 2:01pm
Manolo

Liberals and do-gooders ruining it all:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/14/number-sanctuary-cities-nears-500-report/

The Ohio Jobs & Justice Political Action Committee has added more than three dozen new cities and counties to its list in 2017 alone, as jurisdictions rush to try to shield illegal immigrants from what they expect to be a new push for deportations under Mr. Trump.
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March 15, 2017 9:50am
Jack5

This could be NZ’s most blatant multicultural scam. Defend this one if you can, Dame Devoid.

Vivek Goel, Westland District Council assets and engineering manager (until stood down last month), is under investigation by the Serious Fraud Office.

A tender process overseen by Goel awarded an $8 million contract for a Franz Josef sewerage system to a small Auckland company, then not yet registered and with no construction experience, in fact without any business record. Now registered, it is owned by a recent migrant in Auckland from India. She runs a cake shop.

The immigration industry boasted ethnic migrants would going to bring new entrepreneurs who would turn NZ into an economic Switzerland of the South Pacific.

Bugger all have contributed to our exports, and this ~~cake~~ alleged construction company isn’t going to grow into an international civil-engineering giant.

Taxi drivers, city park workers, truck drivers, farm hands, fast-food workers – where is the influx of skills that was promised?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/90384093/westland-district-council-awards-cake-decorators-firm-7-million-contract-to-build-sewage-plant
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March 15, 2017 9:50am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Jack5, I personally know this guy and his family as they used to live in Taranaki before moving to Hokitika and all I can say is none of this is really surprising to me.
  Their time here was turbulent to put it mildly and sounds like it carried on with their move south.
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:07am
- itstricky
  
  Boy, that was a great turn of “news event” into “my favourite rant topic”
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:10am
  - mikenmild
    
    But, surely only Asian immigrants could be capable of such an audacious fraud…
    
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    March 15, 2017 10:52am
    - itstricky
      
      What I want to know is why she had any business owning a business that wasn’t a dairy?
      
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      March 15, 2017 11:52am
    - Jack5
      
      Milky doesn’t think ethnic origin should come into it.
      
      According to Wikipedia:
      
      “… only two Indian cities have continuous water supply and according to an estimate from 2008 about 69% of Indians still lack access to improved sanitation facilities…
      
      Perhaps Milky thinks Indian cake shop owners don’t realise you can’t just bake up village sewerage systems.
      
      Bit patronising of you, Milky.
      
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      March 15, 2017 12:57pm
krazykiwi

Saudi Arabia’s girl-power council – minus the girls

At first glance, it seemed as if Saudi Arabia was poised for a bit of change.

With great fanfare, the Governor of Qassim province announced the creation of a girls council – the first of its kind in the kingdom – intended to offer more opportunities for women and give them a voice.

It was an encouraging sign for a nation that regularly ranks near the bottom of global surveys on gender rights.

But there was one problem: When the Qassim Girls Council met over the weekend for the first time, pictures showed 13 men on stage – and not a single woman.

The women were in another room, linked through video. In Saudi Arabia, unrelated men and women are not permitted to mix – a state policy that is strictly enforced.

This is a same Saudi Arabia that leads key UN Human Rights Council appointment committees while beheading citizens, bombing women and children in Yemmen, and publicly flogging bloggers.
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March 15, 2017 10:07am
- Manolo
  
  Definitely, the most feminine of ~~cults~~ religions!
  
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  March 15, 2017 10:11am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Makes sense. You don’t have Camels in the Camel Racing Board, so why would you have women in a women’s council?
  
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  March 15, 2017 11:06am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Padriv, Totally logical ! (I got the joke ?)
    Afterall, what do women know about anything?! //
    
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    March 15, 2017 12:31pm
  - Lance
    
    Exactly, they are both property
    
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    March 15, 2017 2:36pm
Stars And Stripes

French Embassy warns tourists against open defecation
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/03/french-embassy-warns-tourists-against-open-defecation.html

This is unacceptable in NZ you silly frogs, the only exception is if you are a tramp or just generally vulnerable because then you can piss and shit in peoples doorways and in public parks with impunity.
If you fall in this category it will never be your fault due to the extreme pressure the heartless government puts you under.
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March 15, 2017 10:41am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The French Embassy needs to provide each incoming national with a pot de chambre or vase de nuit.
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:34pm
starboard

Mornin trendsetters ( terrible hangover so don’t shout ). Look what I spotted on a NZ landlords blog. Is it common knowledge there? Surely the repeaters would have picked up on this gem.

“Over the weekend, Labour Party leader Andrew Little confirmed that, as party MPs have long hinted, negative gearing rules will be removed under a Labour government.
He told The Nation that it was not fair that investors with investment properties should have a tax advantage and that, as there is no need for negative gearing, it will go if Labour wins in September.”
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March 15, 2017 10:46am
starboard

Here’s the link..

http://www.landlords.co.nz/list-news.php?topic_id=2
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March 15, 2017 10:48am
Jack5

Who are the cocaine snorters in Auckland?
The celebrity set? Young business people? Sex workers?

Will they be happy with new direct air services – passenger and cargo – between Auckland and Colombia?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11818578
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March 15, 2017 10:49am
- itstricky
  
  Who are the cocaine snorters in Auckland?
  
  Immigrants. I blame the dairy owners. Dairies are fronts for the drug overloads.
  
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  March 15, 2017 11:55am
  - mikenmild
    
    And those dangerous cake shop proprietors.
    
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    March 15, 2017 12:05pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      Wrong. The cake shop proprietors make way more money out of constructing sewage schemes.
      
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      March 15, 2017 12:26pm
    - itstricky
      
      And here I was, thinking that cake shop proprietors were the good guys that got iced… how badly I was wrong…
      
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/christian-bakers-lose-pro-gay-marriage-cake-discrimination-rulin/
      
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      March 15, 2017 12:31pm
- Longknives
  
  “Who are the cocaine snorters in Auckland?
  The celebrity set? Young business people?..”
  
  You left ‘Role Model’ All Blacks off your list…
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:14pm
  - Kimbo
    
    For a guy who criticises the New Zealand sporting media for inaccuracies, maybe you should not disdain their output so much. If you had bothered to read their reports you may have learned Ali Williams has been resident and plying his trade in Paris, not Auckland for a number of years
    
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    March 15, 2017 1:21pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Although his old club, Ponsonby, may be interested in his potential upcoming availability if ~~the French penal system~~ another unexpected commitment doesn’t intervene ?
      
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      March 15, 2017 1:32pm
- starboard
  
  TDM slaps mm back into place…again lol.
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:48pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Direct flights? Excellent.
  
  Colombia borders Venezuela (~500km), so we can easily export our dewy-eyed socialists .. for a taste of their own ideology.
  
  Serve ’em a final Chardonnay in-flight, and cancel any return tickets.
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:39pm
Fletch

Project Veritas is now going undercover with a lawyer who represents teachers who sexually abuse students – the one mentioned in the video, a teacher who forced students to give him blow jobs at knifepoint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-Q1PqRzNI
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March 15, 2017 12:30pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , still awaiting for O’Keefe to bring down CNN.
  
  Can you give us an update ?
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:25pm
rightoverlabour

real American Patriots these….

Official documents and multiple sources say at least five contractors — including brothers Imran, Jamal and Abid Awan — are the focus of the probe but that as many as six people could be involved.

The others purportedly involved are Imran’s wife, Hina Alvi, and Rao Abbas, who is not part of the family.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/14/plot-thickens-in-probe-house-it-contractors.html

talk about letting the enemy in…
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March 15, 2017 12:41pm
- stephieboy
  
  rightoverlabour,
  
  Your fearful excitement may of made you and Fox overlook this point ,
  
  “House Democrats have stood by the contractors, privately and publicly suggesting their Muslim and Pakistani heritage prompted the probe and is contributing to fear-mongering.”
  
  Sigh .
  
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  March 15, 2017 12:52pm
Andrei

Wikileaks Bad, MSNBC Good

Network ‘to release’ US president Donald Trump’s tax returns
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March 15, 2017 1:10pm
- stephieboy
  
  Andrei , phew ! At long last .
  
  Time since the beginning of the campaign to doctor them including this ?,
  
  “Critics contend that the tax returns could be the key to unlocking the mystery of Trump’s links to Russia.”
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:14pm
  - Andrei
    
    “I just love the stench of hypocrisy in the morning”
    
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    March 15, 2017 1:18pm
- jonar
  
  Or if you’re the Don
  Wikileaks good, MSNBC bad.
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:38pm
Stars And Stripes

Agencies to apply for protection orders for victims who ‘lack capacity’
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11818720.
“When the legislation was announced by then Prime Minister John Key in September one change was to allow others to apply for a protection order on a victim’s behalf if they cannot because of physical incapacity or fear.
That has now been widened to cover victims who “lack capacity” to make the application themselves”.

I love it “lacking capacity”.
In other words so retarded and dumb they cant do it themselves.
Also I suppose you might not realise you are a victim until you have had a friendly chat with the lesbian at Women Refuge who will educate you on your downtrodden status and then do all the paperwork as well.
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March 15, 2017 1:16pm
- Postitrote
  
  I prefer the full quote from the article: “Protection orders will be able to be applied for on behalf of children and adults who “lack capacity” to make the application themselves.” It makes your interpretation of ‘lacking capacity’ look extra special.
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:34pm
Michael

Andrei,
But what year[s] do those tax returns relate to?
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March 15, 2017 1:22pm
- Andrei
  
  Я не знаю
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:26pm
Lucia Maria

Ousted U.S. Prosecutor Bharara A Thorn In Russia’s Side For Years
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March 15, 2017 1:30pm
dime

For Lucia

“The Pope, who was traveling back to Rome from Mexico, where he urged the United States to address the “humanitarian crisis” on its southern border, did not tell American Catholics not to vote for Trump.
But Francis left little doubt where he stood on the polarizing issue of immigration reform.
“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not the gospel,” the Pope told journalists who asked his opinion on Trump’s proposals to halt illegal immigration.”

not sure if the Pope had a crack at mexico for their big fuck off wall?

and obviously, the vatican wall is all good!

this pope is a joke. he may not be a commie but he is socialist.
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March 15, 2017 1:33pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Dime,
  
  I’m aware of the Pope’s comments on the wall and the reaction to them, especially from Trump and Francis-hating Catholic Americans.
  
  Note the Pope’s use of the word, “only”. It’s basic reading comprehension to understanding that he’s not saying that walls as such are bad, just that only walls and no bridges is bad. He’s speaking literally and metaphorically.
  
  And again, how does the Vatican’s big wall keep people out? So many people visit the Vatican, or haven’t you noticed?
  
  he may not be a commie but he is socialist
  
  No, the pope is a Catholic.
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:39pm
  - dime
    
    “And again, how does the Vatican’s big wall keep people out? So many people visit the Vatican, or haven’t you noticed?”
    
    youve got me there!
    
    kinda spooky how Trumps wall will stop people from visiting the US eh!!!
    
    a catholic cant be a socialist?
    
    its funny cause youve moved way further to the left since he came around. hell, i didnt even know you were left before pope bernie.
    
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    March 15, 2017 1:45pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      kinda spooky how Trumps wall will stop people from visiting the US eh!!!
      
      You’ve got to wonder why he’s building it, then.
      
      a catholic cant be a socialist?
      
      They’re incompatible. Catholicism can look a bit like socialism if you’re looking at it through a rolled up newspaper, so maybe that’s the confusion.
      
      its funny cause youve moved way further to the left since he came around. hell, i didnt even know you were left before pope bernie.
      
      No, I haven’t. It’s just that you think I must have gone left because I don’t like Trump.
      
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      March 15, 2017 2:02pm
    - stephieboy
      
      dime , Pope John Paul II said to be a key factor in bringing down Eastern European Communism on social Justice ,
      
      http://famvin.org/en/2005/05/01/social-justice-legacy-of-john-paul-ii/
      
      Too Commie for you ?
      
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      March 15, 2017 2:08pm
- Tirebiter
  
  Read the new testament and you will find that jesus had socialist tendencies as well. The catholic church made it all about the acquisition of power and wealth – because they could.
  
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  March 16, 2017 2:49am
Jack5

Germany may deport as many as almost half a million Middle Easterners, reports Der Spiegel in its English edition.

Too late to save Merkel the Mad, perhaps?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/repatriation-of-refugees-emerges-as-german-election-issue-a-1137859.html#ref=nl-international
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March 15, 2017 1:35pm
- calendar girl
  
  Bet it doesn’t happen. It should, where people have entered illegally, but the Germans (let alone Merkel herself) no longer have the national spine to bring it about.
  
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  March 15, 2017 6:23pm
dime

that dude Maddow reckons he will release trumps tax returns.. 2pm our time.
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March 15, 2017 1:42pm
- Kimbo
  
  …and the chances that the rest of the media will honour Trump’s privacy (guaranteed by the US constitution – you know, the same article the SCOTUS ruled it granted the right to an abortion) and refuse to publish the details, and thus establish a precedent that will make the stealing of such information pointless in future?
  
  As per Eliza Doolittle: Not bloody likely!
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:48pm
  - Tirebiter
    
    Privacy is not guaranteed in the constitution, only due process. Abortion is not guaranteed, nor is health care, the CIA, the two-party system, imperial overreach, and hundreds of other modern things. It’s all about who has the power to get their way when the issue comes up. The right to bear arms mentioned in the constitution refers to a the creation of state militias – not private ownership of guns but it’s been twisted to mean every citizen can own a gun and leads to tens of thousands of mindless shootings every year in the US ever since. As the old saying goes: god created man and colt made them equal.
    
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    March 16, 2017 2:55am
- dime
  
  i kinda hope hes asset rich but broke AF.
  
  like would struggle to stump up 50 grand if he had to.
  
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  March 15, 2017 1:48pm
  - stephieboy
    
    dime , apparently it’s only his 2005 returns . Feel miffed ?
    
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    March 15, 2017 2:09pm
- Ross12
  
  dime
  The dude is a woman Rachel Maddow.
  Anyway the big expose is his 2005 tax return, supposedly. Hardly relevant to have 11yr old data.
  But given it is personal information and release of it meant to be a felony I hope someone throws the book at her and her employers.
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:10pm
Jack5

A young prostitute is interviewed on Radio NZ.

She says she is also working towards a Ph.D.

A Ph.D. in what????

Media studies! And some of us thought the term “media whore” was just a vulgar way of disparaging journalists.

Seriously, with prostitution legal in NZ for nearly 13 years, and with so much sex in the MSM already, is the working life of a prostitute worth any more attention than that of a plumber or a shop assistant?

And what use is a Ph. D. in media studies except for helping land a job teaching media studies? Is it worth enduring work as a prostitute to become a Ph. D. in media studies? Or are some people somehow in the sex business for job satisfaction?

http://www.radionz.co.nz/programmes/fathom/story/201836438/fathom-ep-1-sex-work-love-marriage
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March 15, 2017 1:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5 , should try your undoubted skills as a sub editor or apply for a vacancy at the Censors office or even in vocational guidance .
  
  Or would it be better to simply ignore your inane and puerile posts ?
  
  Who actually cares re Ph D prostitute ?
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:14pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie X … the prostitute said young internationals were a segment of the prostitution market.
    
    Tsk! tsk! tsk!
    
    Would you prefer prostitutes weren’t better educated than most of their clients, or is the big decision: “with, or without niqab”?
    
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    March 15, 2017 2:21pm
    - SGA
      
      “young internationals were a segment of the prostitution market”
      Can’t say my first thought was Muslim students, Jack5. You might be getting a little fixated 🙂
      
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      March 15, 2017 2:37pm
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        a little fixated ?
        
        He is !
        
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        March 15, 2017 2:55pm
- kowtow
  
  Give the girl her due , by getting a Doctorate she’s improving her position in life. From now on she gets to play Doctor while someone else will have to play nurse……
  
  ……ba dum tish.
  
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  March 15, 2017 4:29pm
Stars And Stripes

http://porninquiry.nz/
I have just signed Family First’s petition to have an enquiry into pornography in New Zealand.
I did this on the following basis:
1.Pornography degrades men and treats them all like hungry stallions.
2.Negative racial stereotypes are prevalent with the black guy and his anaconda theme being common.
3.The attractive lesbians featured in pornography are no where near representative of the ugly ones you see in real life.
4.Fake taxi does not operate in New Zealand and the government should extend a licence immediately( you really are dirty if you understand this one).
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March 15, 2017 2:04pm
- stephieboy
  
  Stars and Stripes ,
  
  1.Pornography degrades men and treats them all like hungry stallions.
  
  Yeah and degrades women treated like on heat mares ?
  
  ( Haven’t you noticed ?)
  
  The rest based on your personal collection and Internet trawling preferences ?
  
  An enquiry on a hiding to nowhere and after all you signed it .
  
  Snigger .
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:52pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    If anyone was going to take my post seriously it was always going to be you wasn’t it.
    
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    March 15, 2017 3:22pm
- starboard
  
  Lol fake taxi…is that from the same guy who did fake director ! Love his work.
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:08pm
Inandout

The Wanganui river has a ‘personality’ says Chester Burrows, as he hands over its ownership (and a big cheque) to the local iwi. Next time I am in Wanganui I will check with the river to see if it is pleasant or a right bastard.
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March 15, 2017 2:05pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Ko au te awa. Ko te awa ko au.
  http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/sundayextra/new-zealand-granting-rivers-and-forests-same-rights-as-citizens/7816456
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:28pm
  - Inandout
    
    Great, so if the river floods and drowns people it can be charged under the Safety laws. How can the lawmakers speak in those terms without breaking into uncontrollable laughter?
    
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    March 15, 2017 2:38pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Had one of the most memorable work parties ever on the Wanganui River Paddle Steamer a few years back.
    Whole boat got absolutely hammered then the booze ran out and a near riot erupted with the cutlery and plates from the buffet meal being hurled overboard and a couple of fist fights on the top deck.
    At least the taniwha did not go hungry anyway.
    
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    March 15, 2017 2:39pm
Michael

Notsofast.
Re your comment at 9.40 a.m.
Macdonald.
A witness said she thought she heard 3 successive gunshots, but witnesses are known to make mistakes. The jury found that Macdonald was not guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That does not mean they believed someone else shot Scott Guy as you are suggesting.
Lundy.
He needed that insurance money pdq. He had no alibi for the estimated time of the murders. He set himself up with an alibi for the middle of the night by having that sex worker visit him then instead of earlier.
Rewa.
Almost certainly murdered Susan Burdett but the reason those juries thought it was Pora was because he confessed.
Tamihere murdered those Swedish tourists. He was driving their car around the Coromandel with their camping gear in the back knowing they wouldn’t be reporting it missing and the reason he knew that was because he knew they were dead, having murdered them prior.
David Bain almost certainly murdered his family. Dempster did say the wound to Robin Bain’s head was close contact but he also said it was a most unusual wound for a self-inflicted wound. Nothing to stop David Bain from holding the rifle against his father’s head. Laniet Bain had two hard contact wounds to her head and she did not commit suicide. What you need to do is focus on the damaged glasses frame that was found on a chair in David Bain’s room and the lens from those glasses that was found in Stephen’s room. Even Binnie accepts that David Bain was wearing those glasses that weekend. Are you able to come up with an explanation as to how that frame came to be damaged and how that lens came to be in Stephen’s room? Binnie was not able to. I reckon David Bain was in Stephen’s room on the morning of the murders and the frame of those glasses was damaged when he was struggling to overcome his brother and at the same time one lens fell out.
That’s my explanation.
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March 15, 2017 2:07pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  One plausible explanation that fits the evidence is the father murdered the family and was waiting for David to return. David returns, wrestles with the father shoots him and makes it look like suicide. Father supposedly had motive ( incest to be divulged), David did not. Not my idea, I heard it somewhere else, and I don’t really care either way.
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:15pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Ha – they both did it!
    
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    March 15, 2017 3:56pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    That is a remarkable comment. It steps neatly between all the facts that have been the subject of endless ~~debate~~ abuse here. If only you had left out the first seven words and the concluding sentence.
    
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    March 15, 2017 5:54pm
rightoverlabour

A PhD costs a huge amount of dough. That’s a hell of a lot of lying on your back counting stars…..
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March 15, 2017 2:07pm
- stephieboy
  
  Time to enlist investigator Project Veritas ?
  
  LOL
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:17pm
skyblue

Donald Trumps 2005 taxes to be released on MSNBC. He paid $38M in tax that year.
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March 15, 2017 2:08pm
- stephieboy
  
  skyblue ,and the rest pre and post 2005 ?
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:15pm
  - rangitoto
    
    How much tax did you pay pre and post 2005. Please offset against any bludger money you received from the state.
    
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    March 15, 2017 2:29pm
    - Inandout
      
      And donations from the mosque slush fund.
      
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      March 15, 2017 2:39pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Tsk, tsk , tsk .. Touchie both about your master ?
      
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      March 15, 2017 2:58pm
      - rangitoto
        
        Have you really been stealing from your mosque stephie?
        
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        March 15, 2017 3:14pm
Lucia Maria

Trump’s tax return release – liveblog on the Guardian
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March 15, 2017 2:21pm
- Ross12
  
  Don’t get excited Lucia.
  I think Rachel Maddow and some others in the MSM are going to end up showing their lack financial literacy.
  
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  March 15, 2017 2:53pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Hopefully she will end up in prison as she has admitted a felony.
    
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    March 15, 2017 3:12pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Yes Rachel Maddow has had shit on her face before.
    ‘Not my President, waahhhh’
    This is real, this is your life now
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:19pm
- Andrei
  
  Well so far it is all a big so what!!!
  
  He paid $38 million dollars tax in 2005 over 12 years ago which works out about 25% of the money he earned that year
  
  What’s the bet when everybody treats this as the big yawn it is the claim will be Trump himself was the leaker
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:00pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    I agree, actually. If the rest of his tax returns are the same, then why not release them? It’s almost as if he’s got something to hide.
    
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    March 15, 2017 4:07pm
- Manolo
  
  Would love to see the Pope, paedophile protector, and the corrupt Catholic Church doing the same.
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:02pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Manolo, we haven’t seen all of Trump’s returns yet. It’s just one year from 2005. If the Pope ever becomes President of the US, then I’d want to see his tax returns as well.
    
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    March 15, 2017 4:09pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Charities are exempt
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:21pm
- Fletch
  
  Tucker and guests respond –
  The bigger question is, who illegally leaked them? It is a felony.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT6fFcD-yfo
  
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  March 15, 2017 5:23pm
Michael

rightover
Your explanation not all that plausible.
How do you explain that damaged frame and the lens in Stephen’s room?
As for motive, how about this. David Bain was a penniless paper boy. He knew the estate would be worth something. Only a couple of days after the killings he mentioned to a female companion that he was worried about family friends who had borrowed some money not being able to repay it.
Another point. The only reason why Laniet was home that night was because David had asked her to come home for a family meeting. So the one night she is home she gets murdered.
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March 15, 2017 2:35pm
Michael

Trump tax return release. Just for one year , 2005.
What a farce!
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March 15, 2017 2:46pm
Fentex

Just had to get this down somewhere…

It has just occurred to me that there might be an interesting game afoot in Washington.

Paul Ryan’s health care plan is ridiculous, so much so it doesn’t seem possible he doesn’t know that.

It seems likely it’s deliberate.

Everyone hates it.

Interestingly there’s a small contingent of Republican supporters, off to the side of the party, suggesting it’s time for universal health care.

I am beginning to suspect there’s a plan to make fundamental changes to U.S Health Care in motion, built around making it starkly clear how inefficient and un-reformable Insurance as Health Care is.

I am forming a suspicion there’s a plan within the Republican party (possibly with, but also possibly without Trump in the picture) to make expanded MedicAid the core of a new public Health Care Plan, and much of what is going on is theatre designed to prepare the ground.
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March 15, 2017 2:52pm
- Brigitte
  
  I always reckoned that the Dems should have called their bluff. Reintroduce the GOPs repeal (and not replace) bill that they passed (and Obama vetoed).
  
  I mean what then? Don’t pass your own bill (that you previously passed), have Trump veto a GOP bill?, or enact it and watch the whole healthcare sector implode handing back power to the Dems (and perhaps bringing Obamacare back!).
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:05pm
- mikenmild
  
  There should be an aphorism in there along the lines of Hanlon’s razor: ‘never attribute to cunning that which can be adequately explained by stupidity’.
  I can’t see a master plan lurking there myself. The game appears to be to present something they can pretend is healthcare reform while focusing on the tax cuts.
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:49pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Totally agree with you on cunning vs stupidity. It’s endemic.
    
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    March 15, 2017 4:14pm
  - Fentex
    
    Well, I’m not claiming it’s a fact and I’m perfectly prepared to believe Republican actions are simply venal and stupid.
    
    But they might not be. I’m only becoming suspicious of some things being reported that don’t make much sense in isolation, and could be any variation on “floating a concept” to panicked search for an out, but might be the beginning of a plan.
    
    It doesn’t have to be well thought out and cleverly conceived to be true – such a thing could evolve as a self guided life raft, directed by reactions and paths of least resistance, as a result of someone floating an idea in public.
    
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    March 15, 2017 4:44pm
- Tirebiter
  
  The current republican health care plan is not about health care but tax giveaways for the already wealthy. It is presented as a budget bill where the threshold for passage is 51% of the congressional vote where an actual health care plan – not a budget plan – would require a threshold of 60% of the congressional vote because it allows for a filibuster. It is a neat little legislative trick based on congressional rules written by – congress.
  There is no way the republicans would do something as reasonable as medicaid for all. They are ideologically ‘market driven’. Read the words in the bill. It talks about access to health care insurance. Health care insurance is not the same as health care. ‘Obamacare’ was a giveaway to the health insurance companies the way the Wall Street bailout in 2007-2008 was a bailout of the investment houses that fund their political campaigns.
  There are ways to reduce health care costs in the US – one easy one, which will save tens of billions of dollars a year, is to allow the government to negotiate drug costs with pharmaceutical companies – the way they do with the veteran’s administration. It is against the law – a law passed by congress – for the government to negotiate drug costs in medicaid and medicare, but okay to negotiate drug costs for the military. How dysfunctional is this?
  
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  March 16, 2017 3:10am
dime

lol so that bad business man trump only earned 150 million in 2005 lmao

dime would be more than happy with 1% of that!
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March 15, 2017 3:01pm
- Fentex
  
  Off of several billions in investment? Dime is easily pleased, and careless of Dime’s investments future and employee’s lot.
  
  Of course tax declarations are routinely manipulated by the wealthy to minimise obligations as investment in clever tax lawyering is easier and higher return than productive work for anyone with sufficient surplus to afford the lawyers.
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:50pm
Maggy Wassilieff

FAIL for NCEA

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/326638/'impossible'-ncea-maths-question-not-checked-properly
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March 15, 2017 3:05pm
- krazykiwi
  
  From the story:
  
  It is the panel’s opinion that no one person was responsible for any of the errors.
  
  That’s fine. So just find the two, or three, or x people who didn’t follow the rules and invite them to try another occupation.
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:09pm
  - Brigitte
    
    The panel reported that 113.4% of the exam setters were responsible. They noted, however, that the percentage hadn’t been independently checked as they didn’t have enough time.
    
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    March 15, 2017 3:17pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    That’s fine. So just find the two, or three, or ALL people who didn’t follow the rules and invite them to try another occupation.
    
    Fixed it for you krazykiwi
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:51pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Much obliged Steve 🙂
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:23pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Exam by committee, and then review by panel, all of whom are unnamed and seeming to not wanting to stand by their work.
  
  Is it any wonder that the Cambridge examination system is still popular? Maybe more schools should take it on the maths component, at least.
  
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  March 15, 2017 4:04pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Seems that some things haven’t changed much over the years
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=162894
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:14pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      You’d certainly wonder if the same people were involved setting that paper as well as last year’s ones.
      
      But, then again, it could be a math people thing vs ordinary mortals. It’s hard, once you know something to un-know it, and look at a math problem from a point of un-knowing and still learning.
      
      It’s almost as if it would be good for there to be experts involved in this whole process who understand maths education and how a maths paper will be interpreted by a student…
      
      Oh wait, theoretically, those are the sorts of people who should have been involved!
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:22pm
Stars And Stripes

Even the residents of Mt Roskill think it is a shithole
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11818735
“A “spate of aggravated robberies and brutal attacks on shopkeepers” has led to the formation of a community action group.
Last night, a meeting was held in front of the Crown Superette in Mt Roskill, the scene of a brutal robbery on Sunday morning which left a shop keeper severely injured”.

What does Stephieboy, the last white guy in the area think?.
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March 15, 2017 3:15pm
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha Mt Roskill turned into ‘Little Mogadishu’ years ago- It needs a fucking wall built around it!
  *Stephieboy will be along any minute rambling on about ‘Enrichment’ and ‘Diversity’…
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:37pm
- starboard
  
  Mt Roskillstan S&S, formerly Mt Roskill. Keith Hay would be spinning in his grave if he knew what a shithole muslim infested dump it has become.
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:42pm
krazykiwi

Smart-vibrator’ firm tracked users’ sexual activity without their knowledge

Customers who bought a wi-fi enabled sex toy may be entitled to compensation following a class action lawsuit.

Canadian firm Standard Innovation, has agreed to pay C$4 million (£2.4 million) to members of the public who bought and used its We-Vibe products – sex toys controlled via a smartphone app.

The firm, it was discovered, had been collecting data via the app, recording when customers had been using the sex toys, as well as information about the intensity of the vibration settings used. The data was collected without customers having been notified.
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March 15, 2017 3:17pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  See….
  it’s not the microwave that’s doing the surveilling.
  
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  March 15, 2017 3:34pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    You get a wifi enabled microwave and all bets are off.
    
    Let me introduce you to the Internet of Things.
    
    Microwaves that turn into cameras, however, haven’t really heard of those. Except for on that interview with Kellyanne Conway, that is.
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:46pm
- nasska
  
  About time you had your three way, auto lube, super lifelike, latex companion complete with polyester pubic hair & 44D boobs checked for transmission capabilities krazykiwi. 🙂
  
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  March 15, 2017 4:18pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Appreciate your interest in my welfare… but think I pass this time 🙂
    
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    March 15, 2017 5:13pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    redbladder is sprung nasska.
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:00pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Anyone who buys something “wi-fi enabled” (big clue) should really understand that it could be collecting data.
  
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  March 15, 2017 7:41pm
Brigitte

I haven’t been to (((A Blog))) lately, but I’m told that the blog owners support has moved to NZ First. If that is true, I suspect Winston’s questions yesterday at Q&A weren’t entirely random. If that is all correct, just who is funding who?
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March 15, 2017 3:22pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  By the tone of your comment it would seem like you are not banned from Whaleoil yet?.
  People free to comment on there are fast becoming an endangered species.
  
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  March 15, 2017 4:12pm
  - Brigitte
    
    Actually I am banned. Used to still read it from time to time but not worth removing my adblocker for the “privilege”.
    
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    March 15, 2017 4:19pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Never mind as they gave me the arse card a while back accusing me of being a troll when in reality all I did was question a couple of Slater’s calls.
      Not worth it if they only want sycophants.
      
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      March 15, 2017 4:25pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Brigette, the word is that it’s all part of a cunning plot. He’s apparently acting as a double agent on the basis that if he pretends to switch his allegiance from the Nats to the dodgy drunken dwarf (whom he’s roundly and rightly put the boot into for years) he will make the Nats more electable. Don’t listen to all these rumours about him having a mega pout. All will be revealed in time for him to take the credit for the Nats win in September. He should shave a good 5% off the drunk’s support.
  
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  March 15, 2017 6:15pm
Inandout

I have found the site that stephie haunts-

https://mingle2.com/online-dating/auckland/mount-roskill/muslim-singles

I had to laugh at the guy who ‘is willing to have sex’. An emergency, with an infidel?
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March 15, 2017 4:16pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  What about the guy who cannot even spell the country he is from?
  Afganastan !!!!!.
  
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  March 15, 2017 4:26pm
  - Lance
    
    Vowels are not fundamental to Semitic languages.
    They might or not be added to any particular writing
    If they are added (for clarity) they appear as little marks and flicks above the consonants
    
    As such it is common to see vowel errors when read in English.
    E.g. Noon in Hebrew is usually just written ‘nn’.
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:26pm
- nasska
  
  Stephieboy’s intro writes itself:
  
  Weedy SJW with computer & tissues desires to meet another Omega male to swap stories about surreptitiously watching nubile females at Mt Roskill coffee shops.
  
  Anyone know his email address? 🙂
  
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  March 15, 2017 4:28pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    … another Omega male stalker …
    
    Were you in a bit of a hurry nasska? Unlike you to slip up on the important detail.
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:05pm
    - nasska
      
      Sorry Da Vinci. Busy day & the finer details of his perversions slipped my mind. 🙂
      
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      March 15, 2017 6:12pm
Longknives

There seemingly isn’t enough money in the Kitty for us to have a Pension when we retire- But Chris Finlayson and his trusty ‘neverending chequebook’ continue to pander to ludicrous and greedy Maori claims…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11818725

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10830586
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March 15, 2017 4:18pm
- Inandout
  
  There must be an end to these handouts, or does the goldmine go on forever? Finlayson has been in the treaty business for decades, both private and government.
  
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  March 15, 2017 4:26pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The Whanganui River claim has been before the NZ Government for 144 years.
    
    It’s not exactly a rushed settlement.
    
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    March 15, 2017 5:03pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      The Mainland cheese of the treaty process Maggy.
      
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      March 15, 2017 6:02pm
    - Longknives
      
      If that’s even true (?)- The lying fraudsters should have been told to fuck off 144 years ago then..
      
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      March 15, 2017 6:25pm
  - reid3
    
    Finlayson has been in the treaty business for decades, both private and government.
    
    Yes. And throughout the only consistent thing has been his utter contempt for the NZ taxpayer.
    
    Why people rate him, I’ve never understood. Well I do, it’s because many people are idiots.
    
    But he’s a contemptuous evil little man, just like McCully.
    
    Interesting isn’t it, how politics seem to attract such people like flies to shit.
    
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    March 15, 2017 5:27pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    …does the goldmine go on forever?
    
    Yes it does.
    
    It’s greed today, and that little problem of inter-generational memory loss tomorrow.
    
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    March 15, 2017 5:59pm
- realityczech
  
  Give them a big payout. It will be quickly spent by the Maori elite and plowed back into the economy.
  
  The average Maori on struggle-street will get nothing from it.
  
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  March 15, 2017 5:28pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Luxury car dealers do well after a treaty settlement.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:34pm
reid3

Fukushima update:

http://enenews.com/fish-found-leaking-pus-covered-in-lesions-deformed-along-us-west-coast-fisherman-nearly-all-fish-caught-affected-ive-never-seen-this-some-had-pus-all-over-their-body-official-wit
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March 15, 2017 5:23pm
- realityczech
  
  Bullshit reid. There is no conspiracy. Anyone can measure the radiation levels and see they are safe. Even you can.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN7Zm8XO7Zc
  
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  March 15, 2017 5:31pm
- Lance
  
  Nothing to do with US local pollution perhaps?
  
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  March 15, 2017 6:31pm
  - reid3
    
    No.
    
    Next question?
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:12pm
    - realityczech
      
      reid you are being a sheeple. Radiation levels are normal, and/or, safe. Radiation occurs naturally. It was not invented by the ; Illuminati, Jew, Freemason lizard people.
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:15pm
realityczech

Looks like the predatory Bulldykes I saw drooling over the young school girls outside parliament have won.

I heard the anti male filth the dykes were screaming into the faces of the young girls. I am not interested in hearing the sanitised media version of the hate rally.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/90481818/wellington-college-students-suspended-over-facebook-rape-comments
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March 15, 2017 5:41pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  From the Herald:
  “The teens, who posted on Facebook about having sex with drunk women, have been suspended from Wellington College for five days.
  They have had any leadership responsibilities withdrawn and will be barred from sport tournaments and cultural competitions.
  They will also do community work and go through consent and healthy relationship education, the school told Radio NZ”.
  
  What a bloody witchhunt.
  I doubt if swearing or even hitting a teacher would get you into as much trouble these days.
  Angry lesbians are on the charge so watch out guys.
  
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  March 15, 2017 5:59pm
  - realityczech
    
    S&S, I have seen lots of groups protesting outside parliament, but that hate rally was – by far – the most aggressive, loud and nasty.
    
    The media did not show the large mob of Bulldykes at all. They were at the top of the steps by the TV cameras leering at the young school girls, wearing those stupid pink hats ( to symbolise hatred of men)
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:29pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Did you see stephie?
      
      Just asking…
      
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      March 15, 2017 8:07pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Welcome back BallSack.
        Petone hasn’t changed much during your time in Siberia.
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:44pm
reid3

John McAfee’s take on Vault 7. What they were doing is huge, it’s evil, it’s omnipresent, and you can’t escape it.

And they just lost it, all the tools Obama paid them billions to code, are now available to anyone, who can use them to hack you, your bank accounts, your porn habits, your social media interactions, or anything else they want to.

And some idiots think it’s OK for them to do this “because they’ve got nothing to hide.”

Duh.

And guess what, the media, which the Deep State of which the CIA is part is said to own, isn’t covering this hardly at all. Except for the bit about who leaked it.

Isn’t that interesting.

Unless you’re a sheeple, with nothing to hide. Then it’s nothing at all, is it.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRBKpeMHT5E

Steve Pieczenik: Vault 7 Is Aimed To Take Down CIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPaV5tEwZ0g
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reid3

“Another serious challenge… is linked to events taking place in the world. Here there are both foreign policy and moral aspects. We can see how many of the Euro-Atlantic countries are actually rejecting their roots, including the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilisation. They are denying moral principles and all traditional identities: national, cultural, religious and even sexual. They are implementing policies that equate large families with same-sex partnerships, belief in God with the belief in Satan.

“The excesses of political correctness have reached the point where people are seriously talking about registering political parties whose aim is to promote paedophilia. People in many European countries are embarrassed or afraid to talk about their religious affiliations. Holidays are abolished or even called something different; their essence is hidden away, as is their moral foundation. And people are aggressively trying to export this model all over the world. I am convinced that this opens a direct path to degradation and primitivism, resulting in a profound demographic and moral crisis.

“What else but the loss of the ability to self-reproduce could act as the greatest testimony of the moral crisis facing a human society? Today almost all developed nations are no longer able to reproduce themselves, even with the help of migration. Without the values embedded in Christianity and other world religions, without the standards of morality that have taken shape over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity. We consider it natural and right to defend these values . One must respect every minority’s right to be different, but the rights of the majority must not be put into question.

“At the same time we see attempts to somehow revive a standardised model of a unipolar world and to blur the institutions of international law and national sovereignty. Such a unipolar, standardised world does not require sovereign states; it requires vassals. In a historical sense this amounts to a rejection of one’s own identity, of the God-given diversity of the world.

If only we had a politician that said things like that.
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March 15, 2017 6:23pm
- mikenmild
  
  Swoon! If only we had a leader like Putin.
  
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  March 15, 2017 6:29pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    We did Milky.
    She tried running the UN
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:32pm
    - realityczech
      
      We did Milky.
      She tried ~~running the UN~~ ruining NZ
      
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      March 15, 2017 6:34pm
    - Andrei
      
      She was nothing Like VVP ABS
      
      She is a Godless upper middle class, chardonnay socialist with ambiguous sexuality
      
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      March 15, 2017 6:49pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Over there they a named ‘Limousine Liberals’
        
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        March 15, 2017 7:00pm
      - reid3
        
        ambiguous?
        
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        March 15, 2017 7:11pm
AgentBallSack

Thank you for all the well wishes Kiwibloggers, it’s been a hard few weeks with no commenting privileges and I promise not to call anyone a cunt again until next time.

ABS
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March 15, 2017 6:34pm
- realityczech
  
  Did the piece of shit who snitched out themselves ?
  
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  March 15, 2017 6:37pm
  - mikenmild
    
    It was one of newer trolls – realityczech, JasonJohns or whoever Kea is pretending to be at the moment.
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:40pm
    - realityczech
      
      Sniff sniff sniff … I smell rat ^^^^
      
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      March 15, 2017 6:44pm
      - reid3
        
        That’s slime rc.
        
        Like a snail with an ooze problem who took a laxative but the pharmacy mucked up and gave him a whale-size one.
        
        Well, they didn’t really muck it up, they just for some reason took an instant dislike toward him as soon as he walked in and the staff all had a giggle later on as they thought about what would be going on right about now.
        
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        March 15, 2017 7:17pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    There are a few snitches who need stitches. But many people still get offended by that word, so I will go easy on it. Strange that calling people the male equivalent “cock” doesn’t engender the same anger.
    
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    March 15, 2017 6:44pm
    - realityczech
      
      You don’t honestly think snitches do it because of community standards !!!
      
      Bottom feeders like milky simply want power and control.
      
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      March 15, 2017 6:46pm
- thedavincimode
  
  No worries cunt.
  
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  March 15, 2017 7:23pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Thanks mate.
    That’s how I often use the word. Reserved for my nearest and closest friends.
    
    Or assholes who require the full force of English disgust.
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:30pm
  - realityczech
    
    You cunts need to watch your language. Kids might read this and the little cunts love words that get adults all worked up.
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:38pm
fernglas

“Later that night as Gabby lay hooked up to life support machines Auckland City Hospital staff delivered the heartbreaking news to her family – she had suffered a brain hemorrhage and was unlikely to survive.

The next day a decision was made. Gabby was to be taken off life support – but not until her organs had been donated.”

A tragedy for her family, but life-saving for many others. Why are New Zealanders so bad at donating when the benefits for others are so obvious?
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March 15, 2017 6:47pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Gabby????.
  Surely not.
  
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  March 15, 2017 6:53pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Seen those movies where transplanted organs take over the recipient? I am truly scared for us all.
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:00pm
AgentBallSack

So, whats new? Did stephiebitch miss me? 😀
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March 15, 2017 6:48pm
- Kimbo
  
  Welcome back, ABS. Missed ya, but a word of advice: if you are going to drop the c__t bomb don’t waste it on the likes of pathetic trolls like Gabby. Take it from one who spent two weeks in the cooler for the same offence ?
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:58pm
Happychappy

What a bunch hypocrites Labour are they have called John Key names and tried to belittle him with the help of the media for the last nine years and now they are off their heads because Nicky Kaye has let the Country know that the poster Girl and Deputy Leader of Labour has achieved nothing in her time in Parliament can they name any thing that will prove her wrong apart from the flip flop on her Parties Super Policy. What is the difference with Andrew Little continually calling Bill English a weak Leader every time he talks to the media or during Question Time in Parliament,whats good for goose is good for the gander.
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March 15, 2017 6:53pm
Viking2

Todays compulsory reading. enjoy the mirth.
Redbaiter posted.
Hi Lindsay,

Are you going to do any analysis of the Nat’s claim that their policies to reduce the number of teenage mothers on welfare are working?

Seems to me that their claim is pretty superficial, and there is more to this than they are saying.

9:53 PM
Blogger Lindsay Mitchell said…

No.
I’m tired of it.
The teenage birth rate has fallen dramatically.
There are multiple reasons for this, not least Rodney Hide’s suggestion that teenagers are having virtual sex instead of real sex.
Far fewer teenage girls are becoming teenage mothers so there are fewer available to even become beneficiaries. Most still do.
What influence government policy is having? Who knows.

10:08 PM
Blogger Lindsay Mitchell said…

I didn’t mean to sound rude Redbaiter. Other priorities occupy right now. But thanks for asking.

10:12 PM
Blogger Lindsay Mitchell said…

http://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.co.nz/2015/03/whose-research-to-believe.html

10:20 PM
Anonymous Redbaiter said…

Hi Lindsay,

Thanks for your reply.

I didn’t think you were rude:)
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March 15, 2017 6:53pm
- nasska
  
  Awww! Baity’s found a friend. 🙂
  
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  March 15, 2017 6:58pm
  - mikenmild
    
    He has friends here, nasska, who would surely treat him with the kindness he deserves.
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:06pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      I didn’t know we dispensed meds as well as advice Mikey
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:40pm
krazykiwi

‘Beware of Jews’ sign in North London

A Jewish neighbourhood watch group has reported a road sign which appears to warn “beware of Jews” to the police.

The sign, which appears to depict the silhouette of an orthodox Jewish man wearing a traditional Fedora hat, was found just 200 yards from a nearby synagogue in Stamford Hill, north London, on Tuesday.

It was spotted by a member of a local Jewish neighbourhood group, Shomrim N E London, which then reported it to Hackney Police

Probably sponsored by the UN. Jew bashing seems to be a key focus of theirs. /sarc
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March 15, 2017 6:56pm
- EAD
  
  What a cleverly done sign. When I saw it I thought:
  
  Attention: Charlie Chaplin / Clint Eastwood convention, 200 meters
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:03pm
realityczech

By “Jew bashing” you mean suggesting the country of Israel can not invade and occupy neighboring countries ?

How do you feel about NAZI “settlers” occupying Poland ?
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March 15, 2017 7:03pm
- reid3
  
  Possibly he did rc but he’ll be cheered to know while Syria didn’t quite work out for Greater Israel, they’re already working on the backup plan. Aren’t they lovely people.
  
  They remind me of South Africa in the good old days.
  
  http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/israel-lost-syria-it-already-has-backup-plan/ri19190
  
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  March 15, 2017 7:28pm
  - realityczech
    
    When do you reckon they will attack Iran, or order the US to do it (more likely) ?
    
    Syria and Russia are simply preliminary matters.
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:34pm
    - reid3
      
      Whenever they calculate is the best time to eviscerate the Jew in the street rc. Who they hate as much as they hate the Goy, we’re all the same, to them, you see.
      
      So when they calculate it’s time to show the idiot sheeple the second coming is upon us, they’ll do something like attack Iran openly, which will turn the entire Muslim ME into a seething cauldron of unstoppable white-hot rage who’ll throw themselves against the guns manned by the Jews in the street and pretty soon overwhelm the Jews in the street and start the whole massacre.
      
      All the while, the people who ordered and carefully planned it all while the idiot sheeple lay somnolent, sit in their luxury penthouses, watching the live scenes they created from as close a distance as is safely possible while waiters serve them their customary champagne and cigars. Which is precisely where Jacob Rothschild sat, eating delicacies, as he and his wife watched the towers dis-integrate on 911.
      
      That’s when.
      
      Meanwhile, the idiot sheeple keep swallowing the fatal kool-aid that critique such as you and I offer is aimed at the ordinary Jews in the street, because the evil ones told them so.
      
      This is why I frequently explain sheeple are simply the biggest most massive dumbfucks in the entire universe, but for some unknown reason the sheeple don’t seem to like that, even though all the evidence is but a click away, to an open mind.
      
      Go figure
      
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      March 15, 2017 8:21pm
      - EAD
        
        Just as Albert Pike predicted in his letter to Mazzini:
        
        http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:32pm
      - reid3
        
        Yes. The precision of which evidently means nothing, to sheeple. Either.
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:52pm
cha

Living in a prophets paradise.

The New Hampshire House killed a bill Thursday that would have raised the minimum legal age of marriage to 18 years, from the current ages of 14 for males and 13 for females.

At the start of Thursday’s session, this bill looked in good shape to pass. After all, it had received the unanimous backing of the House Committee on Children and Family Law, and bill supporters said it seemed commonsense that minors lack the maturity to enter into marriage.

But Republican Jim Spillane of Deerfield – argued it would hurt young veterans and their families.

“They would not be able to get married before he deployed – they would not get benefits. And unfortunately if he was somehow injured or hurt when he was deployed that child would be left without a child and without benefits,” Spillane told lawmakers on the House floor.

http://nhpr.org/post/minimum-age-marriage-nh-remains-13-women-14-men#stream/0
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March 15, 2017 7:09pm
- mikenmild
  
  Another argument was that raising the marriage age would “ensure forever that every child born to a minor will be born out of wedlock.” As Slate said, ‘because that’s the biggest concern for a 13-year-old with an unwanted pregnancy: she’s unmarried!’
  
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  March 15, 2017 7:14pm
  - realityczech
    
    milky might want to check out all those developed countries where the legal age is 13-14. They have less teenage pregnancies than NZ.
    
    Poor stupid anti family milky just ain’t too bright.
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:19pm
    - Jack5
      
      Here’s a link to age of consent in various countries.
      
      In Western type countries, Germany and Austria are among those with 14 as age of consent. In France the age is 15, in Japan 13, but in Niue, which is an associated state of NZ, it is 19.
      
      https://www.ageofconsent.net/world
      
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      March 15, 2017 8:46pm
  - nasska
    
    Where the hell do these wankers get their screwed up hallucinations about how the real world operates from. Thirteen year old girls are kids themselves.
    
    They’re as bad if not worse than the bloody Muslims!
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:20pm
    - realityczech
      
      nasska can’t read ! Note the Muslim countries at 18 while Germany its 14.
      
      “The ages of consent vary by jurisdiction across Europe. The ages of consent are currently set between 14 and 18. The vast majority of countries set their ages in the range of 14 to 16; only five countries, Cyprus (17), Ireland (17), Malta (18), Turkey (18) and Vatican City (18), do not fit into this pattern.”
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:25pm
    - realityczech
      
      [cough]
      
      The ages of consent vary by jurisdiction across Europe. The ages of consent are currently set between 14 and 18. The vast majority of countries set their ages in the range of 14 to 16; only five countries, Cyprus (17), Ireland (17), Malta (18), Turkey (18) and Vatican City (18), do not fit into this pattern.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:27pm
    - mikenmild
      
      http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/American_Taliban
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:30pm
    - realityczech
      
      [cough]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:39pm
Longknives

So Mike Hosking thinks Dan Carter is a “Hero” and we shouldn’t make a big deal about his drunk driving etc etc
Wow!
As someone who has experienced the horrific consequences of drunk driving I am kind of shocked- I guess being an All Black somehow makes you exempt from ‘consequences’?
Maybe a trip to the Mortuary to see some mangled corpses might change his and his beloved Dan’s perspective?
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March 15, 2017 7:18pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Say what you will about McCaw, at least he has left the superstar rugby life behind him. Not many who have been through the mill can say that. Just look at the amount of ex All Black Rugby coaches / Sky commentators.
  
  And he is arguably the most famous of them all. For that he earns my respect.
  
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  March 15, 2017 7:46pm
dad4justice

Regarding the Kirsty Bentley cold case, you got the information Greg Williams years ago. Careful not to stitch another wrong one!
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March 15, 2017 7:23pm
- Nostradamus
  
  D4J:
  
  Someone claims to have spotted you at the rape culture protest on Monday. Is that true or a case of mistaken identity?
  
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  March 15, 2017 7:39pm
  - realityczech
    
    I was there. Was he the pre-op Trans on the podium ?
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:41pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Grow up trap door!
    
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    March 15, 2017 7:51pm
    - realityczech
      
      Transphobia is normal in the period leading up to gender reassignment. Those powerful hormone pills you are on mess with your head.
      
      You will get through it dad/mum4justice.
      
      Kia kaha 🙂
      
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      March 15, 2017 7:55pm
      - dad4justice
        
        F##k off Kea I thought you were banned you slimeball!
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:18pm
      - realityczech
        
        I hear your anger, but look on the bright side. You can soon enjoy cock in new and exciting ways.
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:24pm
tranquil

“290,000 jobs created in Trump’s first month of Presidency” –
https://www.infowars.com/290000-jobs-created-in-trumps-first-month-shattering-expectations/

Quote – “The report encompassed the first full month under President Donald Trump, who has pledged to rebuild the nation’s aging infrastructure system,” reports CNBC.

The numbers bode well for President Trump’s agenda of economic nationalism and his vow to reverse the ravages of globalism by bringing jobs back home.

The breakdown of the numbers is significant because it shows that the U.S. is becoming less dependent on service sector jobs as Trump tries to provide new incentives for companies to take on more construction and manufacturing workers.

Goods producers added 106,000 of the new jobs, with construction jobs swelling by 66,000 – the most in 11 years – and manufacturing jobs by 32,000.

Claims for unemployment benefits are also at the lowest for 44 years, suggesting employers are confident about the future.

“Companies employing 500 or more workers increased staffing by 72,000 jobs; payrolls rose by 122,000 at medium-sized businesses, or those with 50 to 499 employees, the most in three years; while small companies’ payrolls gained 104,000, an eight-month high,” reports Bloomberg.”

Not bad for the man derided by the left as the “next Hitler”…….
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March 15, 2017 7:43pm
- realityczech
  
  Trump has already delivered on most of his election promises. Something Obama did not do in two full terms. In fact Obama actually took the USA backwards in the areas he promised to improve on.
  
  Trump must surely have cemented himself as the best president in US history. No wonder the people love him, while the self appointed elite are filled with impotent rage 🙂
  
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  March 15, 2017 7:52pm
- mikenmild
  
  Given your source is Infowars, I thought I might look at other reports.
  The latest job numbers I can find show that the Department of Labour reported that employers added 235,000 jobs in February. Still terrific, right?
  So why did guys like Reince Preibus and Sean Spicer describe higher monthly job numbers under the previous administration as mediocre, disappointing, or evidence that Obama was murdering the American Dream?
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:31pm
  - EAD
    
    Whilst Infowars is a sensationalist news aggregator and Alex Jones is more than.a bit OTT, I treat it far more seriously than I do the (((MSM))) and their hate Whitey Cultural Marxism.
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:36pm
  - realityczech
    
    milky, is that why blacks were rioting in the streets killing people and the Occupy Movement went mad over the 1 %… because they did so well under Obama ?
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:41pm
Jack5

One of the Hooerald’s strangest reports yet.

A woman appears to blame the hospital system’s treatment of her for her brother shooting up police stations. The woman says he was frustrated with the hospital care she was receiving.

She’s grizzly about the hospital herself, too. “I shouldn’t have been made to feel …”

Yet she seems to have received a lungs transplant.

We know such loser families exist, but when the biggest city’s newspaper seems to be cheering them on, the MSM has lost its way.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11818953
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March 15, 2017 8:03pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Stuff reported that weeks ago. Unfortunately I was persona non grata at the time. The cop behind the screen understood his motives I am sure.
  
  /sarc.
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:12pm
  - Jack5
    
    When you were in the Kiwiblog isolation cells, AgentBallSack, was Kea still in that cell block?
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:55pm
Longknives

The Herald seems to be attempting to justify this violent and dangerous criminal shooting at people just because his Sister was sick??

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11818953

Jesus Fucking Christ- Haven’t we all lost someone to horrible illnesses?? But we don’t go shooting up Police Stations…
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March 15, 2017 8:08pm
Longknives

Just saw your post Jack…Sorry mate- I hope this gets it’s own thread from David because I think the Herald have plummeted to an absolute new low here..
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March 15, 2017 8:10pm
Jack5

As TVNZ bathes in the released Trump tax filing tonight, the American TV journalist, Rachel Maddow, seemed to be at the centre of the action.

An interesting person, the first openly lesbian anchor on a mainstream TV channel, Maddow was the first openly lesbian to win a Rhodes scholarship to Lincoln College, Oxford.

A liberal who favours tighter gun control laws, she also likes shooting. The first date with her lesbian partner was at a National Rifle Association event.

http://liverampup.com/entertainment/rachel-maddow-and-her-lesbian-partner-no-urgency-to-get-married.html
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March 15, 2017 8:15pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Jack, this is a political blog… not the Woman’s Weekly.
  
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  March 15, 2017 8:28pm
  - nasska
    
    We’ve found that it helps the flow if there’s a love interest on GD Maggy. 🙂
    
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    March 15, 2017 8:33pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      oh sorry…must be my hormones drying up..
      
      carry on, chaps
      
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      March 15, 2017 8:35pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      I’m not sure that Maggy would describe Stephieboy as a “love interest”…
      
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      March 15, 2017 8:41pm
      - nasska
        
        Romeo & Juliet went through their rough patches too Nostra.
        
        I’m sure things will turn out great. 🙂
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:46pm
      - realityczech
        
        I reckon dad4justice will be a major cock tease when his gender reassignment is complete. The girls will have some serious competition there.
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:53pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I’m sure I was just a cheap distraction in ABS’ absence.
        
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        March 15, 2017 8:56pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Sick and pathetic no wonder redbaiter went. God why do I bother with these creeps?
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:02pm
      - realityczech
        
        dad4justice
        
        Sick and pathetic no wonder redbaiter went. God why do I bother with these creeps?
        
        Did he run off and leave you dear ? Men are such pigs sometimes.
        
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        March 15, 2017 9:07pm
stigie

You’re a bundle of laughs most times Dad, don’t need to run away like Reddy did, we are not bad cunts really..?
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March 15, 2017 9:34pm
EAD

Powerful meme – why would any person with more than half a brain enlist in the military to ” serve and protect” our degenerate society?

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1bec77a5e3c53597baea18eee7a567af8c21bc86e965dafbe5eef5270424332c.jpg

I wonder if our brave ex-servicemen can bear to look back and wonder if their courage was all worth it?
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March 15, 2017 9:34pm
Manolo

Sister networks ar war:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/14/donald-trump-just-got-a-nice-victory-thanks-of-all-people-to-rachel-maddow.html
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March 16, 2017 6:47am
Manolo

The hack under scrutiny:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/03/15/rachel_maddow_s_trump_taxes_scoop_was_a_cynical_self_defeating_spectacle.html
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March 16, 2017 6:50am
Jack5

John Campbell, on Radio NZ’s Labour Programme, is in a lather about cage-free eggs in supermarkets.

Here’s a take on organic eggs, which I guess is what free-range eggs are…

https://youtu.be/GOu9YbMw2qk
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