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William of Ockham

Trump wasn’t under surveillance. Some of the people who made contact with him or his cronies were. Not the same thing. But it tells you something about him. Untrustworthy and unsavoury.

Gone by Christmas.
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March 25, 2017 2:34pm
- Kea
  
  “Trump wasn’t under surveillance. Some of the people who made contact with him or his cronies were”
  
  So the listeners just covered their ears when Trump spoke ?
  
  “But it tells you something about him. Untrustworthy and unsavoury.”
  
  So you are trying to use Obama’s abuse of office to demonstrate Trump is untrustworthy !
  
  LOL 🙂
  
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  March 25, 2017 4:53pm
Ross12

At least you now acknowledge there was some surveillance going on in Trump Tower or with a server associated with Trump. That is a small step in the right direction William.
A couple of names for you to keep eye out for ; Larry Klayman and Dennis Montgomery.
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March 25, 2017 2:45pm
- William of Ockham
  
  I don’t acknowledge anything. I have never made any comment on the matter either, here or anywhere. All I know is apparently some of Trump’s contacts were under surveillance but not Trump himself.
  
  Trump is a miserable failure. Good riddance.
  
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  March 25, 2017 3:02pm
  - Ross12
    
    ” Some of the people who made contact with him or his cronies were. ”
    “All I know is apparently some of Trump’s contacts were under surveillance but not Trump himself.”
    
    That is the acknowledgement I’m referring to. I did not say you acknowledge surveillance of Trump himself.
    
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    March 25, 2017 3:20pm
    - William of Ockham
      
      Eh? This is what you wrote: “At least you now acknowledge there was some surveillance going on in Trump Tower or with a server associated with Trump.”
      
      No I don’t. If you set out with a net to catch flounder and you catch a stingray what are you fishing for?
      
      Trump or his gang were interacting with persons of interest to the intelligence agencies. They got caught up in the net. Bycatch.
      
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      March 25, 2017 4:43pm
      - Kea
        
        We know that some of Trump’s allies were talking to Russians or Poles, or Czechs, or someone before the election
        
        Wow Russians. Poles and Czechs. How scary. I am sure Obama never spoke to foreign officials ever.
        
        Jerusalem Post
        http://www.jta.org/2015/08/07/news-opinion/politics/when-it-comes-to-jewish-ties-nobody-trumps-trump-1
        
        “Trump is from New York, works in professions saturated with Jews and long has been a vocal supporter of Israel. His daughter and two grandchildren are Jewish, the executive vice president of his organization is Jewish — and Trump certainly has chutzpah.”
        
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        March 25, 2017 5:03pm
  - paul scott
    
    William of noclue . Lame, weak, wet and lame, and completely sad
    
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    March 25, 2017 3:57pm
    - William of Ockham
      
      If you are trying to be a wit you are halfway there.
      
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      March 25, 2017 4:44pm
Happychappy

That’s is a look at like of Willie Jackson doing what he does best taking the piss out of a white man.
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March 25, 2017 2:58pm
- Jack5
  
  Don’t underestimate Willie Jackson. He staged a great coup at Radio NZ as a spokesman for Maori Radio, and not long before his admission to Labour was revealed.
  
  Radio NZ signed an agreement with Jackson to increase its Maori coverage and its use of Maori language.
  
  Maori have their own radio system, which is okay. But now they have a big stake in the non-race-based State radio as well. What’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is half-mine.
  
  The deal also gives Radio NZ ties with an up-and-coming person within Labour.
  
  Jackson outmanoeuvred whoever in the National Coalition Government was watching after Radio NZ.
  
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  March 25, 2017 5:01pm
paul scott

Comey has walked like a zombie into a trap, as follows :
Comey attr >>;We know that some of Trump’s allies were talking to Russians or Poles, or Czechs, or someone before the election >
We know this because of wire tapping by the Kenyan Islamobama.>
I mean the wire taps fell out of the sky, into the New York Times >>
I mean why am I hanging upside down.
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March 25, 2017 3:54pm
William of Ockham

Kea, I did not say what you appear to attribute to me.

Trump was not under surveillance ordered by Obama or anyone else. That is clear.

I’d bet my bottom dollar Trump is under surveillance now, though.

We heard from the head of the FBI and NSA that the FBI believes probable cause exists that there exists collusion between the Trump campaign and a hostile foreign power; that is the legal standard required to proceed and get surveillance warrants.

Gone by Christmas. Auf Wiedersehen Herr Drumpf.
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March 25, 2017 5:17pm
- Ross12
  
  You are probably right about people gone by Christmas but it won’t include President Trump.
  
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  March 25, 2017 5:22pm
- Kea
  
  Yes Israel is a hostile foreign power, but US presidents have put Israel’s interest before the USA’s since the 50’s. That is not unique to Trump.
  
  And if you are correct, those agencies need a clean out with the directors and senior people charged with treason. It shows how polluted the country became under Obama
  
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  March 25, 2017 5:24pm
- paul scott
  
  William of nowhere [5.17 /] Collusion about what // You do much research pet ? Care to take a $NZ100 bet . If you win you could give a donation to the wet liberal swamp identity crisis in USA.
  
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