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DifferentPerspective

Dilbert creator on Berkely

Must…. not ….. laugh…. at the violent ….. socialists!

This is how they want to win the next election (/facepalm).
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February 5, 2017 8:02am
- PhilBest
  
  Well said by Scott Adams:
  
  “…Yesterday I asked my most liberal, Trump-hating friend if he ever figured out why Republicans have most of the Governorships, a majority in Congress, the White House, and soon the Supreme Court. He said, “There are no easy answers.”
  
  I submit that there ARE easy answers. But for many Americans, cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias hide those easy answers behind Hitler hallucinations…”
  
  The “protesters” are themselves a direct parallel with the Hitler Youth. Brainwashed young useful idiots with certainties that actually ain’t so. I agree with people who think this will increase Trump’s support; so it should. The left’s true colours are showing and the MSM are doubling down on their own dishonesty, to the cost of their own side.
  
  I never thought we’d see a phenomenon like Trumpism, I was resigned to living out a lifetime with cultural marxism and political correctness just going to greater and greater lengths of evil, with the entire political establishment including Vichy “centre right” governments, at its bidding.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:17am
  - jonar
    
    Students enrolled at Berkey 38000, those involved in protests some hundreds, those who actually rioted
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38837142
    University spokesman Dan Moulof said the protest had been hijacked by a small number of masked agitators.
    
    Take the Trump Glasses off.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_JvSVxIDTM
    
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    February 5, 2017 9:37am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Oh, so it’s a numbers game. OK. Number of conservatives rioting during Obama’s entire tenure: Zero.
      
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      February 5, 2017 9:50am
      - jonar
        
        No, the point is the endless classification of “The Left” by the actions of the few. Should Trump end federal funding to Berkley because some small number of people rioted. Maybe 0.2 % of the student body?
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:17am
      - cha
        
        Zero
        
        Of course, no balls.
        
        The best ~~conservatives~~ idiots could manage were mock trials and lynchings, direct racist insults at himself and his family, circulate puerile memes and demonstrate to the rest of the world just how truly horrible a goodly number of Americans really are.
        
        Other incidents include:
        
        Four North Carolina State University students admitted writing anti-Obama comments in a tunnel designated for free speech expression, including one that said: “Let’s shoot that (N-word) in the head.”
        Second- and third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted “assassinate Obama,” a district official said.
        University of Alabama professor Marsha L. Houston said a poster of the Obama family was ripped off her office door. A replacement poster was defaced with a death threat and a racial slur. “It seems the election brought the racist rats out of the woodwork,” Houston said.
        Black figures were hanged by nooses from trees on Mount Desert Island, Maine, the Bangor Daily News reported. The president of Baylor University in Waco, Texas said a rope found hanging from a campus tree was apparently an abandoned swing and not a noose.
        Crosses were burned in yards of Obama supporters in Hardwick, N.J., and Apolacan Township, Pa.
        A black teenager in New York City said he was attacked with a bat on election night by four white men who shouted ‘Obama.’
        In the Pittsburgh suburb of Forest Hills, a black man said he found a note with a racial slur on his car windshield, saying “now that you voted for Obama, just watch out for your house.”
        
        http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27738018/ns/us_news-life/t/obama-election-spurs-race-threats-crimes/#.WJZAp3-E-Un
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:19am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Gosh cha, you had to dig deep for that. And I’d hardly call it rioting.
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:45am
      - cha
        
        As I said, no balls.
        
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        February 5, 2017 11:00am
      - niggly
        
        Jonar: “No, the point is the endless classification of “The Left” by the actions of the few”
        
        Then it is about time those good elements of “The Left” started calling out those hardcore and anarchistic elements within it out. Trouble is to call them out sees the moderates purged, disowned, banished etc.
        
        “The Left” (in a Western context) needs to get its shit together, because their actions affect all of society.
        
        Go on … Speak Up and chant “Call Them Out, Call Them Out” and start a good thing going!
        
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        February 5, 2017 12:38pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        Cha, that’s NBC so 90% is fake news, the rest are actually done by the Obama supporters to gain “sympathy”. None have corroborating evidence.
        
        Is that all you can find, fakes and more fakes ? And faced with real homophobic fascist violence you and Jonathan lie to say “oh it’s just a few and they’re not “real” students”. Buklshit, it’s straight out fascism in being, and it’s the fascist left doing it.
        
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        February 5, 2017 1:32pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Ahem, Ed Snack old chap. A couple of days ago, in response to my suggestion that Trump’s ~~Muslim ban~~ “extreme vetting” order was/would prove unconstitutional in the opinion of the US courts, you posted
        
        Kimbo, stop bleating on so dishonestly. The ban is NOT couched in religious terms. the ban does not apply to Muslims specifically and that word is not in fact mentioned in the EO.
        
        Complain all you like, but be honest and complain about what has been implemented, not what you merely imagine has been
        
        January 30, 2017 3:08pm
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_incompetence_of_the_trump_administration.html
        
        Now I think we both realise there is still a long way to go on in the court battles, not only with his 90 day restriction but also with whatever the Trump administration decides to replace it with in the medium-to-long term to fulfill his election promise.
        
        Nonetheless, would you be prepared to revise your assessment, including accusations of dishonesty?
        
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        February 5, 2017 1:40pm
    - realityczech
      
      Only a few Germans enrolled in the Nazi party, so world war two never happened.
      
      Lefty apologist logic at its very best. Watching you all squirm and die is amusing.
      
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      February 5, 2017 12:31pm
      - jonar
        
        You lot are totally missing the point. According to your logic if the KKK does sometime then I can assign all their attributes to you lot since the KKK is a right wing group. See the problem?
        
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        February 5, 2017 9:49pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Yes – they should defund Berkeley.
      
      As Rich so intelligently pointed out – it isn’t about the numbers (unless of course you are a demented Democrat who thinks winning the popular vote means anything at all).
      
      But 100% of the Berkeley Mayors incited this riot and then victim-blamed to excuse it. 100% of the University leadership did their level best to create the context for a riot. 0% of the University sees it as important to support the first amendment if a conservative’s rights are being infringed. You don’t support the constitution the federation is based on – fine – don’t expect federal funding.
      
      Live by the sword, die by the sword.
      
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      February 5, 2017 4:08pm
      - Gabby
        
        You mean a bunch of Chumpist agitators in masks disrupted a peaceful protest for money.
        
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        February 5, 2017 9:12pm
  - peterwn
    
    Donald is starting to learn a hard lesson – the Judiciary is a separate branch of Government and he cannot boss the Judiciary around (he can only appoint federal Judges – he cannot remove them). So referring to a US District Judge (equivalent to NZ’s High Court Judges) as a ‘so called judge’ is not exactly going to help his case when Donald appeals to the 9th Circuit Appeal Court. There are 4 vacancies on 9th Circuit which Donald will be filling, but I doubt he can stack the 9th Circuit before his appeal.
    
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    February 5, 2017 9:42am
    - realityczech
      
      The judge can be removed. He is abusing his position for political reasons. He should also be arrested and put on trial. Or maybe send him down to Obama’s Gitmo for a view interviews.
      
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      February 5, 2017 12:38pm
      - peterwn
        
        Donald cannot personally remove him. It is extremely doubtful that he could be removed through the usual channels. Anyway the 9th Circuit would have to utterly trash his judgment before there could be any consideration of removal. Also the Judge has an excellent track record and his mana is very high.
        
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        February 5, 2017 4:42pm
      - calendar girl
        
        Sorry, pressed “report” for peterwn when trying to reply. Like many others, I’ve fallen foul of the proximity of the ‘Reply’ and ‘Report’ buttons.
        
        peterwn says that the “mana is very high” of the US District Court judge. I’d bet that, despite his sudden worldwide fame, the good judge has absolutely no idea what “mana” means.
        
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        February 5, 2017 6:13pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      If only it wasn’t fake news with alternate facts.
      
      It was a temporary ban. The judge has completely repudiated the logic of those seeking the stay and dismissed their case.
      
      The law adjudicator has correctly refused to act as a law over-turner.
      
      Net result – another step along the way to guaranteeing Trump’s second term. Democrats further along the electoral oblivion pathway.
      
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      February 5, 2017 4:11pm
      - peterwn
        
        This is now three people who think the law does not apply to them:
        1. Rob Muldoon – in Fitzgerald v Muldoon
        2. Teresa May – re Brexit
        (they were both tripped up by the Bill of Rights 1688 (UK and NZ)).
        3. Donald Trump – Executive Orders must be made within the law – there was a serious disconnect between the Order and the alleged reasons for it which is why the judge suspended it. He needs to get Congress and Senate to change the law to achieve his purpose – the GOP controls both Houses so he should not find this a problem.
        
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        February 5, 2017 9:10pm
  - cmm
    
    Worse still, Obama – who still has some influence – is encouraging them to continue doing this.
    
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    February 5, 2017 9:48am
    - PhilBest
      
      And other Dems.
      
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      February 5, 2017 10:10am
      - PhilBest
        
        I didn’t note the name, but there was a Dem Congresswoman on TV saying the riots were “a beautiful sight”, and “this is because of what we have taught them”, and “we encourage it”.
        
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        February 5, 2017 12:08pm
      - cha
        
        I didn’t note the name
        
        Did you note the name of the prick who said another Kent State might be the only solution and that it’s time for another Kent State perhaps?.
        
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        February 5, 2017 12:19pm
    - itstricky
      
      Wow, long bbbbbbbbbooooooooowwwwwwww
      
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      February 5, 2017 10:25am
      - cmm
        
        Obama is widely reported to approve of, and support, continued protests.
        
        He has also welcomed BLM etc to the white house, so he clearly has some rapport with some of them.
        
        Peaceful protest is fine, but the shit happening in UC Berkley is not.
        
        When voicing his approval, why did he not also say something like: “I support peaceful protest. There is no place for violence.” etc.?
        
        The only conclusion that anyone (inluding the rioters) can draw from this is that they condone it.
        
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        February 5, 2017 11:57am
      - itstricky
        
        His support for Americans to ” use their rights” included a statement about standard gatherings rights i.e. not violence. That statement was well before the riot, not during, or after.
        
        Then, whilst on holiday the ex-President didn’t say something, therefore you are allowed to infer something from that?
        
        Those are pretty high standards you’re setting yourself there.
        
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        February 5, 2017 12:46pm
  - Gabby
    
    Rioters paid for by Milo.
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:38pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      No, the homophobic fascist left in all its “glory”. Own it.
      
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      February 5, 2017 1:34pm
      - sam green
        
        Are you actually saying they rioted because Milo is gay? Is that your analysis?
        
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        February 5, 2017 7:14pm
      - Gabby
        
        Milo doesn’t care who does his rioting.
        
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        February 5, 2017 9:07pm
Manolo

The lone wolf has a name:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/03/paris-knife-attack-louvre-evacuated-police-reportedly-shoot/

French soldiers shot and critically wounded a man who shouted “Allahu Akbar” as he attacked them with a machete on Friday at the Louvre, the world’s most visited museum.

Police sources said the attacker was a 29-year-old with Egyptian identity papers who arrived in France last month. He was reportedly identified on Friday night as Abdullah Reda Refaei al-Hamamy.
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February 5, 2017 8:04am
- holysheet
  
  what aren’t we being told about this piece of shit?
  What idiot arms himself with a machete and threatens armed soldiers?
  Were they nuclear capable machetes or was he carrying a suicide vest?
  So many questions.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:10am
  - Disaster Area
    
    Perhaps he thought that the well known phrase was actually ‘Never bring a gun to a knife fight’?
    
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    February 5, 2017 8:21am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Oops – that doesn’t fit the left-wing rhetoric does it?
  
  Another couple of thousand votes for Le Pen.
  
  Still if we all keep our heads as far in the sand as we can get them – we can convince ourselves that importing Syrian refugees here is going to work out just fine for us!
  
  Like this on Waitangi Day in 2037. Get ready with those apologies for your children when they ask you “What the f*** was your generation thinking?”.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:11am
  - PhilBest
    
    Guess who said THIS in 2002:
    
    “Seven weeks ago, on 21 March, TV 3 broadcast a documentary called “2050 – What If … ” Three times in the first five minutes, tino rangatiratanga was defined as absolute sovereignty. The show’s premise was that by 2050, Maori sovereignty had been “restored”. So if you crossed Maori land in your car, for example, you might have to pay a toll. Crossing from one rohe to another, you might be required to show a passport. Te Reo could become compulsory in schools, and necessary to hold some jobs. That part of the programme was all good entertainment.
    
    What was not so entertaining were the views expressed in the gaps between the “What If … ” scenarios. Donna Hall said that separation – Pakeha from Maori, Maori from Pakeha – would be “okay”. Jane Kelsey assured viewers that “there was no question that we will have tino rangatiratanga. The question is how tauiwi will respond to that assertion.” This was shortly after Dr Ranginui Walker had again repeated that tino rangatiratanga was full and absolute chieftainship.
    
    The Treaty, in other words, is not what its words say it is.
    
    There is little public debate on the meaning of the Treaty. But there should be. Uncontested assertions are shaping government policy, judicial thinking and political debate. In the manner of the marae, our common interests are best served by robust debate, in an environment of mutual respect. Today I will argue that the Treaty created one sovereignty and so one common citizenship….
    
    “…Maori “blood soil and language” nationalist arguments promise not a single remedy for Maori advancement, or for their country’s advancement. These arguments are 200 years old. New Zealand is in fact a post nationalist response to racial coexistence. New Zealand will not continue “Onward” as our national motto used to say, by going back to the duality of the 1840s to the 1860s.
    
    It’s against this background that we need a deeper debate about the principles of the Treaty. Questioned in the House on the principles of the Treaty, Labour evaded answers and then ultimately fell back on the 1989 statement by the Palmer Government. This is no basis for the Attorney-General’s preference for judicial activism to interpret the Treaty. Our judiciary is competent and intelligent, but they breathe the same thin air as the politicians on Treaty issues. They cannot make mature consideration without deeper, more open debate about the Treaty.
    
    Unless more New Zealanders become aware of the content of modern Treaty discourse, and where that discourse will inevitably take us, we are going to wake up one day, and find that New Zealand has been reconfigured more or less as that shown in the TV3 documentary “2050 – What if … “.
    
    Then New Zealanders, Pakeha , Pacific and Asian, and Maori too – for most Maori want to be ‘just New Zealanders’ – will ask “How could this have happened?” And the judges will keep explaining in their judgments, and the Ministers will remain silent, the media will bite on the sensational aspects of it, and no ‘ordinary’ New Zealander will be any wiser…”
    
    http://www.nzcpr.com/the-treaty-of-waitangi-and-new-zealand-citizenship/
    
    How about running this as a thread topic, DPF?
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:12pm
- Inandout
  
  The travel insurers will be loading the premiums of visitors to Europe very soon. This will of course be offset by hotels desperately dropping room rates and tourist spots specialing rates. Well Muslims have just about screwed every enjoyable aspect of air travel, so here’s hoping that sea cruises aren’t the next target. I know one travel agent who says clients are choosing destinations very carefully now; a damn shame really.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:40am
  - cmm
    
    “offset by hotels desperately dropping room rates”
    
    Naah. At least in Sweden – and I suspect elsewhere – the state is putting up “refugees” in hotels at over $US300/night in places.
    
    Why would hotels need to worry about putting up tourists?
    
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    February 5, 2017 9:51am
  - itstricky
    
    True. Insurance premiums have never been the same since The Bowling Green Massacre.
    
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    February 5, 2017 10:51am
    - SGA
      
      You’re referring to Francis Drake stopping boat loads of Spanish-speakers landing in England, I assume.
      
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      February 5, 2017 11:34am
DifferentPerspective

Modern day socialist activism – the irony is strong in the Antifa movement.

For those of us not suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome – this looks like home-grown terrorism
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February 5, 2017 8:06am
- PhilBest
  
  He is talking about domestic leftists in the USA. He is right. These people are treasonous to the extent that they are trending towards terrorism towards those who oppose the PC appeasement of external terrorist seed-beds.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:19am
Chuck Bird

A beautiful day in the Waikato. I will be off shortly to climb Mt Karioi near Raglan instead of sitting by my keyboard. Not a bad climb for a 73 year old. I bet more than a few anonymous keyboard warriors a lot younger would be too fat and unfit to do the climb.
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February 5, 2017 8:09am
- Happychappy
  
  Has Winston ask you to get in shape in case he gets the call to enter Pike River Mine.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:17am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Why do you have to spoil what was a very positive post with a nasty dig Chuck? Do you have to somehow feel superior to everyone else?
  
  If you’d finished your post at “Not a bad climb for a 73 year old” I would have applauded you. But instead, you have to put the boot in.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:18am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    KS, I do not feel superior to everyone else but I certainly do to anonymous bloggers like Kimbo who like to make personal attacks on my age and that of Winston. I do not see you criticizing him. I am off now.
    
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    February 5, 2017 8:33am
    - Nukuleka
      
      No irony, Chuck Bird, in your implied criticism of ‘anonymous’ bloggers when er um…
      
      Pot…kettle…black… come to mind?
      
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      February 5, 2017 8:39am
      - Chuck Bird
        
        “Pot…kettle…black… come to mind?”
        
        Please explain.
        
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        February 5, 2017 8:16pm
    - Liberty
      
      Chuck
      The reality is your messiah is nothing more than a doddery old has-been.
      Real leaders like Key who would have easily won the next election.
      know when to quit.
      Instead of hanging around on some ego trip.
      
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      February 5, 2017 9:47am
      - holysheet
        
        yes the drunken dwarf has got nothing to show for his life of supping at the taxpayers trough. Would have even less if he was forced to repay the taxpayer the stolen $158,000.
        Never mind he still has his diminishing deluded supporters like chucky.
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:03am
      - Liberty
        
        holysheet
        “Never mind he still has his diminishing deluded supporters like chucky.”
        Winston is also getting support from an imploding Labour party.
        NZF is only a temporary bastion .
        As NZF is also turning toxic with the talk of the parachuting in of Jones
        in. As number two.
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:22am
      - holysheet
        
        As I said “Deluded supporters” Not much difference between Liabore and Winston first supporters, both are deluded.
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:45am
      - Liberty
        
        holysheet
        NZF does collect some flotsam. One of Winstons sycophants is social credit devotee.
        How bad is that.
        
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        February 5, 2017 11:09am
    - Kimbo
      
      …anonymous bloggers like Kimbo who like to make personal attacks on my age and that of Winston.
      
      Chuck, my memory of our exchanges is that you first raised the matter of your age as a matter of discussion, and as your qualification for greater political expertise and judgement than others. You also touted your political and judicial ‘activism’ as an additional reason. Hence you made them subjects of scrutiny and comment. And in the main, those who have genuine expertise are accorded extra respect by reasonable people in this forum. Maggy Wassilief’s knowledge of botany and Odakyu-sen’s insights into Japanese culture spring to mind.
      
      In your case, neither your age nor purported experience entitles you to any automatic respect. Indeed, it is sad and pathetic. Your activism – name dropping politicians you have spoken to in person or on talkback radio, making a trip to Rotorua to participate in a SST gathering, trolling in this forum for Winston Peters, and then doing endless victory laps about it – are the actions of a sad, lonely ego-addicted attention-seeker. I wouldn’t usually be so blunt, but then…you raised the matter for discussion.
      
      Yes, your age and experience should give you wisdom, but the poor judgement and lack of self-perspective exhibited in your comments, means you have forfeited the respect others of your years are often initially given. It is common for politicians, sports-people and the police to attract time-wasting wannabees, eager to inject themselves into a process from which they would otherwise be excluded. Chuck Bird, you demonstrate all the characteristics of such a person.
      
      Enjoy your walk, and might I suggest you will gain more pleasure than that, than picking fights which I remind you, yet again, you initiated by demanding answers of me on two occasions.
      
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      February 5, 2017 11:49am
    - Scott
      
      Don’t worry, Kimbo makes personal attacks on everybody. Actually let me be more precise. Kimbo makes personal attacks on Christians and /or conservatives.
      He doesn’t like his fellow Christians and he doesn’t like conservatives. He appears to be much softer when dealing with progressives and atheists.
      What’s going on in his head I cannot figure out?
      
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      February 5, 2017 1:51pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Actually let me be more precise….
        
        You had to use that rhetorical shill of an adverb to buttress your dodgy argument, didn’t you! Now who’s stalking whom? But thanks for the demonstration of Kimbo’s law and furthering my sad attempts to astroturf it into a meme 😉
        
        I don’t mind conservative Christians, as long as they debate honestly and with an open mind on the subjects they initiate for discussion (e.g, creation science and making the book of Genesis part of the science curriculum, the place of the modern state of Israel and a Palestinian state in biblical prophecy and geo-political developments), and, when it is pointed out to them, they are cherry picking facts (e.g., insisting that the one translation of the biblical text that supports their point of view is the one that should be relied upon), they desist.
        
        But if they don’t, and especially when they claim their perspective is God’s, they deserve (to modify a Trumpism) “extreme admonition”.
        
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        February 5, 2017 2:08pm
  - Gabby
    
    Calm down, tubs.
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:46pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Going to be hot later Chuck. Take a water bottle. Don’t want to hear of the rescue helicopter having to lift an idiot who overdid his abilities off Mt Karioi ?
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:21am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Thanks for you concern waikatogirl. I took water plus a few more things. I wear a heart monitor which is also a GPG. It my heart rate goes to high I ease back. Only fool would say they could not run in to trouble on tramp or a mountain climb.
    
    Have you climbed Mt Karori. Going down the cliff face holding on to the fixed chains is not walk in the park.
    
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    February 5, 2017 7:55pm
- Disaster Area
  
  Just remember to let someone know your route and when you expect to be back.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:22am
  - jcuk
    
    Better would be to invest in a PLB so that you give S&R an accurate position where you are in trouble.. I gave one to my active Son for his birthday.
    
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    February 5, 2017 8:49am
    - jcuk
      
      I gather that they are available for hire from outdoor shops too……
      
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      February 5, 2017 9:02am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Not that cheap, for a day walk. Well worth it if going off track or you have a known medical issue.
        
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        February 5, 2017 1:36pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        They are useful when off track. We had a couple in our party when I climbed Mt Ruapehu.
        
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        February 5, 2017 8:11pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    DA, Thank you also for your concern. I did let everyone know on KB. Not all are like Kimbo. If I did not respond surely someone would have said we have heard from Chuck I wonder if he is still on the mountain.
    
    Seriously, though I tramp with a group.
    
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    February 5, 2017 8:00pm
    - Kimbo
      
      DA, Thank you also for your concern. I did let everyone know on KB. Not all are like Kimbo.
      
      As per my prior post on this thread, I’m glad you enjoyed your walk…and you have safely returned. Don’t know where you got it into your head I wish you or Winston Peters physical harm. But I rest my case that your advancing years has affected your judgement.
      
      On second thought, that is incorrect – there is the possibility you have always lacked the ability to follow a logical train of thought, and your narcissism and grandiosity also manifests in paranoia and a persecution complex.
      
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      February 5, 2017 9:31pm
- nasska
  
  I’ve known a few septuagenarians like yourself Chuck. Fit, not an ounce of fat & full of shit about lesser mortals enjoying a muffin with a coffee & two sugars.
  
  Dropped dead the lot of them. 🙂
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:23am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Geriatrics with a bit of fat on them actually have better survival rates than the rake thin – because they tend to get through illnesses better on their reserves
    
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    February 5, 2017 4:15pm
- mandk
  
  Are you a vegan, Chuck?
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:26am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    No. If I was I might have asked GoVege to join me but do you know if vegans are fit enough to climb mountains?
    
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    February 5, 2017 8:06pm
- Biscuit
  
  SEVEN sad souls have downticked CB’s 8.09am comment?
  
  Sheesh…
  
  Get lives (as CB himself seems to be doing), smell the roses…
  
  Allow me to level the score at 7-7, CB, and I hope your day goes swell…
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:04am
- Awww C-mon
  
  What.A.Fucking.Tool
  
  Spanner Bird going forward me thinks
  
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  February 5, 2017 11:24am
- burt
  
  Take a selfie at the top to complete this narcissistic moment you are enjoying.
  
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  February 5, 2017 12:20pm
Happychappy

Poor old Liverpool the train wreck has continued.
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February 5, 2017 8:20am
- Disaster Area
  
  Bugger.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:23am
- pdm
  
  I haven’t hear a result for Liverpool but……..
  
  Biscuit are you alright??
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:26am
  - Biscuit
    
    pdm, I left on a world trip when Liverpool were atop the Premier League, in the semifinals of the League Cup, in the FA Cup…
    
    Since then, yikes….
    
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    February 5, 2017 9:07am
    - pdm
      
      Got off in Wellington I presume and never left. lol
      
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      February 5, 2017 9:33am
      - Biscuit
        
        Ya cheeky so-and-so, pdm…
        
        I’m sure you already know but the trip was Wellington-Sydney-Dubai-Saint Petersburg-Moscow-Paris-Toronto-San Francisco-Honolulu-JAFA City-Wellington.
        
        V enjoyable!
        
        The card bills are trickling in…
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:05am
      - pdm
        
        Biscuit – No reply option to your 10.05 so here goes.
        
        I meant when you first arrived in NZ many, many, many years ago – probably just after the days of that good Scot Kenny Dalgleish at Liverpool. It was after he and you left together that the decline began – I’ll bet.
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:28am
peterwn

To stop money laundering etc it seems that banks, sharebrokers etc need to obtain evidence of a client’s address eg power bill, rates bill etc. However the lawmakers have overlooked that more and more of such documents are being sent electronically and a printout may not be acceptable. There could come a time where a client just cannot produce evidence of an address. What then?
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February 5, 2017 8:20am
- mandk
  
  You can generally print a statement when you get an electronic bill. The print outs are indistinguishable from a mailed bill. Just fold the print out and no one would know if it had been mailed or not.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:30am
- Inandout
  
  They merely sight your passport or driving licence and take a copy.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:55am
- Dave_1924
  
  its quite funny if you are an itinerant work moving from place to place every 6 months or so…. you effectively don’t have a full time address
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:16am
- brett68
  
  https://www.realme.govt.nz/
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:25am
- gander
  
  I encountered this very situation a few months ago. The JP’s approach was to sight the ‘original’ on screen on my laptop, after which she was happy to certify the printed copy.
  
  Peterwn, from your professional perspective does that seem reasonable?
  
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  February 5, 2017 5:03pm
PhilBest

It strikes me forcibly that the multi-culti Quislings in the West have emboldened “the other” to such an extent that there is now a brazen display of an attitude of “entitlement” on the part of would-be immigrants.

As far as I am concerned, the kind of decent, peaceable immigrants we WANT, will be patiently accepting the toughening of standards in the USA and anywhere else, understanding that the threat the West needs to guard against, is the same as the one they are running from. The immigrants who form mobs and get on TV shouting “fascism, racism” etc are the very ones who shouldn’t be allowed in. They have been allowed in in the past because the lefty establishment is using them as WMD’s against our own civilisation.

I trust the awakening of the masses to this treason, including the MSM’s part, continues. If there were decent people who had reserves about immigration but wouldn’t have voted Trump / Farage / Le Pen / Hansen / Peters in the past, where do you think they are being pushed by the current displays of arrogance, militancy and terror?
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February 5, 2017 8:27am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Leftists are responsible for the WORST war crimes in history ie Communist Russia and China. Way more humans were murdered in an orgy of ideological violence by those socialist regimes than the Nazis/Fascists.
  
  Remember the Nazis only arrived on the scene AFTER A DECADE or so of Leftists indulging themselves in a frenzy of violence and repression, exterminating class enemies in Russia.
  
  So it is not surprising that the German Right finally struck back at Leftists/Communists which included Jewish involvement and leadership.
  
  Today we a seeing again just how profoundly authoritarian socialists are, hiding their blood lust behind Newspeak – “inclusivity, acceptance, diversity, equality”.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:40am
  - MCos
    
    “So it is not surprising that the German Right finally struck back at Leftists/Communists which included Jewish involvement and leadership.”
    
    Just so that I can be clear in my mind are you attempting to justify the Holocaust?
    
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    February 5, 2017 9:05am
  - kowtow
    
    Jazz hands
    
    The nazis were not of the right. They were also lefties. Much of that street violence was directed at the other left parties in a struggle to become the party of the working classes.
    
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    February 5, 2017 9:19am
    - PhilBest
      
      Correct, even the Bolshies in Russia came to the ascension after bloody power struggles with the other various factions of the Left.
      
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      February 5, 2017 10:12am
    - stephieboy
      
      kowtow , the Nazis were only” socialiasts ” in name only.
      
      Their main political enemies were the Communist Party KPD ( of whom they had ongong street battles ) and Social Democrats both of whom were banned , sent to concentration camps or exiled on seizure of power .
      
      http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/weimar-germany/the-communist-party-and-weimar-germany/
      
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      February 5, 2017 3:08pm
      - PhilBest
        
        Did the Bolsheviks in Russia not also deal with all the socialist rivals to themselves? Does that make them “far right”?
        
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        February 5, 2017 3:56pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Far right and far left groups have more similarities than differences. Right and left wing groups tend to have just as much hate for their right wing and left wing competition than for people on the opposite pole. Monty Python had something to say on the matter:
        https://youtu.be/WboggjN_G-4?t=70
        
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        February 5, 2017 4:24pm
kowtow

Despite all the evidence that Islamic migration is bad for the west , we’ll be taking in even more.

Thanks for nothing National.

“Mr Woodhouse said at the end of the emergency intake, the quota would officially increase to 1000 refugees a year.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/advocates-say-refugees-need-support-if-quota-raised
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February 5, 2017 8:32am
- Huevon
  
  Only need 1 in a 1,000. National are shortening the odds.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:39am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  “Islamic migration is bad for the west”
  
  Most immigration is bad for the West now, we have flooded the West with Third Worlders, it is a form of stealth ethnic cleansing.
  
  Whites are rapidly becoming a minority in their own Western countries – its baked in to the cake demographically
  
  When your own tribe breeds at way below replacement level and then tries to compensate by mass importing other tribal groups, then your tribe is on the way out.
  
  Just look at the sterile elite of the declining Roman empire as a historical lesson.
  
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  February 5, 2017 8:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    “Whites are rapidly becoming a minority in their own Western countries – its baked in to the cake demographically” etc, etc
    
    Utter Shite !
    
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    February 5, 2017 3:13pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Perfect example of high quality intellectual debate from a leftist Stephie.
      
      Once again proving the point about why your lot are in a perma-opposition.
      
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      February 5, 2017 4:15pm
  - Manolo
    
    Akin to drinking small doses of poison.
    
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    February 5, 2017 4:41pm
PhilBest

Myron Ebell, who headed Trump’s transition team on the EPA, held a press briefing in London a few weeks ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvWMfAk47_Q

It is long, but it is instructive. A hostile media fronted up to by a decent, dignified man patiently providing a point-by-point remedial education in response to their questions.
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February 5, 2017 8:33am
Hugh Pavletich

WHAT HAS BEEN LEARNED ABOUT RESPONSIBLE URBAN PLANNING FROM THE CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKES ?

Posted at … http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/02/weekend-reading-4-5-february-2017/#comment-2804534 … with extensive further postings above …

… WHAT I WROTE MID-2011 SOON AFTER THE 22 FEBRUARY MAJOR CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE … NZ Roya; Society / Engineers Report June 2011 … http://royalsociety.org.nz/media/information_paper-earthquake_engineering_christchurch.pdf … access via 2011 listings … http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/ …

OPINION: Hugh Pavletich accuses Christchurch City Council of blindness, blunders and foot-dragging; calls for effective leadership … Interest Co NZ

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/53947/opinion-hugh-pavletich-accuses-christchurch-city-council-blindness-blunders-and-chain

The costs are now approaching about $NZ50 billion … when they should have been about half that.

In essence they have been a series of earthquake events … and political and bureaucratic disasters.

Remarkably … there has not been any review on why likely $NZ20 – $NZ25 billion has been wasted, due to a long history of blindingly obvious poor quality urban governance.
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February 5, 2017 8:48am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “due to a long history of blindingly obvious poor quality urban governance.”
  
  So when are you standing for Mayor Hugh?
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:03am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Captain Mainwaring … a good question !
    
    May I suggest you watch this superb documentary ‘The life and thought of Friedrich Hayek’ … particularly from 36 minutes in where Anthony Fisher and the founding of the London School of Economics (LSE) are discussed …
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU8rQnKN_uo&t=16s
    
    The role of advocates and politicians are completely different.
    
    The role of advocates is to endeavour to shift public opinion.
    
    The role of politicians is to parrot and process public opinion. It is after all the House of Representatives !
    
    If politicians fail to do this, they are appropriately thrown out … which is where the current Government is heading 23 September … deservedly.
    
    I trust you find my extensive postings on the MacroBusiness Links thread noted above of interest.
    
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    February 5, 2017 10:11am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      wops … should have been Fisher and the founding of the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) … not the London School of Economics (LSE).
      
      The full documentary is well worth watching.
      
      Another more recent one is Victor Davis Hanson of The Hoover Institution speech to the Horowitz people soon after the US Presidential election late last year …
      
      Victor Davis Hanson – The Mythologies of the 2016 Election … Youtube
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7pQdqPzozc
      
      Published on Nov 30, 2016
      
      Hanson speaks about the 2016 election and the myths surrounding it at the David Horowitz Freedom Center
      
      Victor Davis Hanson | Hoover Institution
      
      http://www.hoover.org/profiles/victor-davis-hanson
      
      Victor Davis Hanson – Wikipedia
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson
      
      It was interesting kearing Trump refer to himself in speeches as a ‘messenger.’ He know exactly what the role of a politicician should be.
      
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      February 5, 2017 11:04am
- cmm
  
  Penny with a sex change?
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:54am
  - pdm
    
    Hugh probably pays his rates though.
    
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    February 5, 2017 10:31am
  - sooty
    
    A wash as well.
    
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    February 5, 2017 3:54pm
Happychappy

There is a lot of good people in Maori that actually care about Waitangi and is only the ignorance of a few that have created havoc and spoilt the day. So I find it funny now that what comes around goes around and the Media are now finally getting their fair share. The Media in the past have high lighted the things that have happen to Politicians and made fun of our Prime Minister’s but finally now and I must say I don’t agree the Media the ones that have taken sides in the past have been bitten by the people they supported in the past.
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February 5, 2017 8:58am
- kowtow
  
  Year in year out the area has to be saturated with police who struggle to keep order .
  
  Some national celebration!
  
  Scrap this farce and initiated a New Zealand honouring our democratic history and traditions.
  
  The top down driven attempt to honour and recognise only Maoridom is alientating the vast majority of New Zealanders.
  
  We need something that everyone ( except the activists) can and does participate in.
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:15am
  - Happychappy
    
    Agreed but if the Media stopped giving them air they would not have such a dominance.
    
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    February 5, 2017 9:41am
cha

Radio host, meet 4 star general.
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The confrontation between Bannon and Kelly pitted a political operator against a military disciplinarian. Respectfully but firmly, the retired general and longtime Marine told Bannon that despite his high position in the White House and close relationship with Trump, the former Breitbart chief was not in Kelly’s chain of command, two administration officials said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/02/04/the-white-house-cabinet-battle-over-trumps-immigration-ban/?
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February 5, 2017 9:29am
- Ed Snack
  
  WaPo keeps up the campaign. The “make fake news the real news” campaign that is.
  
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  February 5, 2017 1:39pm
Stars And Stripes

Father of Louvre attacker: My son is not a terrorist
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/89105097/father-of-louvre-attacker-my-son-is-not-a-terrorist.
“The father of the machete-wielding man who was shot by a guard as he tried to enter Paris’s Louvre museum said on Saturday (Sunday NZ Time) his son was not an Islamist and the French were only accusing him of terrorism to excuse the brutality used to stop him”.

Yeah we know another good kid who has been framed by the authorities because all he was really doing was delivering pizza and it was all a beat up blah blah.
Another apologist who cannot accept his son is a thug.
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February 5, 2017 9:37am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  He was a good boy, he was turning his life around . . . .
  
  Don’t think to have heard this crap anywhere else . . . .
  
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  February 5, 2017 10:01am
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Do the sitting Labour and Green MPs who are candidates in the Mt Albert by-election, (or their parties), have the following?

“ACTION PLAN TO ENSURE ‘OPEN, TRANSPARENT AND DEMOCRATICALLY ACCOUNTABLE’ NZ GOVERNMENT AND JUDICIARY”?

1) Make ALL ‘facilitation payments’ illegal.

2) Legislate to create an NZ independent anti-corruption body, tasked with educating the public and preventing corruption.

3) Legislate for NZ Members of Parliament (who make the laws for everyone else) to have a legally enforceable ‘Code of Conduct’.

4) Make it an offence under the Local Government Act 2002, for NZ local government elected representatives to breach their ‘Code of Conduct’.

5) Make it a lawful, mandatory requirement for Local Government elected representatives to complete a ‘Register of Interests’ which is available for public scrutiny.

6) Make it a lawful, mandatory requirement for Local Government staff, responsible for property or procurement, to complete a ‘Register of Interests’ which is available for public scrutiny.

7) Make it a lawful, mandatory requirement for Local Government Council Controlled Organisation (CCO)) Directors and staff, staff, responsible for property or procurement, to complete a ‘Register of Interests’ which is available for public scrutiny.

8) Fully implement and enforce the Public Records Act 2005, to ensure public records are available for public scrutiny.

9) Make it a lawful requirement that that a ‘cost-benefit analysis’ of NZ Central Government and Local Government must be undertaken, to prove that private procurement of public services previously provided ‘in-house’ is cost-effective for the majority of taxpayers and ratepayers.

10) Legislate for a legally enforceable ‘Code of Conduct’ for members of the NZ Judiciary, to ensure they are not ‘above the law’.

11) Legislate to provide a publicly-available NZ Judicial ‘Register of Interests’, to help prevent ‘conflicts of interest’.

12) Ensure ALL Court proceedings are recorded, with audio records available to parties who request them.

13) Legislate for a publicly-available NZ ‘Register of Lobbyists’ and ‘Code of Conduct’ for lobbyists.

14) Legislate for a ‘post-separation employment’ (‘revolving door’) quarantine period from the time public officials leave the public service, to take up a similar role in the private sector.

15) Legislate to make it a lawful requirement that it is only a binding vote of the public majority that can determine whether public assets held at NZ central or local government are sold, or long-term leased via Public-Private-Partnerships.

16) Legislate to make it unlawful for politicians to knowingly misrepresent their policies prior to central or local government elections.

17. Legislate to protect individuals, NGOs, and community-based organisations, who are ‘whistle-blowing’ against ‘conflicts of interest’ and alleged corrupt practices at central and local government level and within the judiciary.

18) Legislate to prevent ‘State Capture’ – where vested interests get what they want, at the ‘policy’ level, before laws are passed which serve their vested interests.
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Does ANY other candidate in the Mt Albert by-election have such an ‘ACTION PLAN for transparency and democratic accountability’?

If not – perhaps you should consider ‘being BOLD – vote BRIGHT’?

🙂

Penny Bright

2017 Independent candidate
Mt Albert by-election.
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February 5, 2017 9:38am
- fernglas
  
  Have you costed these proposals, Penny? That’s the first question most people would ask.
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:45am
- calendar girl
  
  Please pay your rates, as required by law.
  
  Then, and only then, can you expect to be taken seriously in pointing your accusing finger at others.
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:50am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Mad, barking mad.
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:57am
- Rich Prick
  
  We. Just. Don’t. Care.
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:59am
- Dave Mann
  
  Oh fuck… she’s back… 🙁
  
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  February 5, 2017 10:13am
- G152
  
  Who dragged the harridan out to stuff up a rather nice sunny Sunday ?
  
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  February 5, 2017 10:53am
- Yvette
  
  Must be a decade in about July, August, Penny?
  10th anniversary – tin.
  
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  February 5, 2017 11:46am
- simpleton1
  
  BRIGHTLY & BOLDLY
  follow the money as the accounts are cleaned out.
  
  ignored the G.A. rules that it must approve all funds before they are released (over $100) by usurping the last $200+ in the bank account, without G.A. approval
  
  https://occupysavvy.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/penny-bright-fails-to-co-opt-occupy-auckland-again/
  Meeting? When? Where? Who attended?, moved?, Seconded? motion passed? Audited? Auditor ??? or just excuses
  
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  February 5, 2017 1:48pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray and Walk Away
  Rubbish Stays
  I walk away
  
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  February 5, 2017 2:56pm
- stigie
  
  Brilliant, i have just made her go away !~
  
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  February 5, 2017 3:04pm
- Colville
  
  I love it when I am the 30th (net) downtick for a PennyDim comment…:-)
  
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  February 5, 2017 3:14pm
Inandout

The signs that Trump would be President were there 25 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/MOKi5YeNtRI
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February 5, 2017 9:41am
- stephieboy
  
  Inanout , so Donald can soothsay be reading chicken entrails?
  
  Toook a very long time to make is mind upi. What was he doing in the meantime ?
  
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  February 5, 2017 12:22pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Taking care of business to employ people that pay TAX you fucking moron
    
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    February 5, 2017 6:06pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  He said back then that if he did run for President he would probably win – he would not go in to lose.
  He won, and now he is on track to make America great again.
  Btw, Judge James Robart will be looking for a job by the end of the week
  
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  February 5, 2017 3:05pm
Komata

‘Dishonest non-payer’ alert; and it WAS such a nice morning! 🙁

Perhaps CB knew something…
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February 5, 2017 9:42am
cha

Polish bad arse Tadeusz Kościuszko was born 271 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadeusz_Ko%C5%9Bciuszko#American_Revolutionary_War
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February 5, 2017 10:22am
duggledog

Kowtow –

Re Woodhouse / National & the 1,000 refugees every year, or whatever.

When Trump calls English, do you think he’s going to say ‘Hey Bill, you kiwis don’t have much I need, but you do have quite a lot of space there. Say, you also seem to have a lot of aliens too and it seems to be working good.

You mind taking a few more?’

As much as I (and many others) loathe Winston Peters, we’ll be giving him a tick this year simply because National still refuse to discriminate among would be immigrants.

You know, I wouldn’t buy a Great Wall 4WD, but I’ll use one to get across a river if I have to.
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February 5, 2017 10:30am
- kowtow
  
  Notional also seemed to have been happy to let our homes be raided with impunity, until caught out.
  
  “In the past, police policy dictated burglaries should be attended within 10 hours. That timeframe was extended to 24 hours and more recently, under the present Government, it was accepted police would attend when they could.”
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/police/police-quiet-burglary-policy
  
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  February 5, 2017 10:44am
wiseowl

What gets me Duggle is that Woodhouse and other National MP’s just will not front up and face New Zealanders about these issues.
They are working to an agenda that does not include consulting with the people who made this country.
Anyone but mainstream NZ.
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February 5, 2017 10:38am
- PhilBest
  
  All that matters for them, what they crave and seek is the approval of media talking heads. I don’t know why we have elections at all, we should just appoint the media talking heads as a Junta.
  
  Trumpism is a near-unthinkable actual pushback against this phenomenon that has turned western democratic choices into one between the main Left parties and an illusory centre-right one which is remotely run by the Left anyway.
  
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  February 5, 2017 12:06pm
Lucia Maria

A new style of fake news. Write a crazy piece and attach some credible name to it. Mix it in with Russian conspiracy theories and you have yourself a site that the gullible will flock to.

The authors are real. The articles are fake. Who is behind the sinister ‘CGS’ website?
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February 5, 2017 11:03am
- cha
  
  CGS Monitor doesn’t make the list but their facebook page carries content from sites that do.
  
  https://www.facebook.com/CGSmonitor-837551629632571/
  
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  February 5, 2017 11:12am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Thanks, Cha. Useful page.
    
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    February 5, 2017 11:57am
    - cha
      
      I posted this a while ago but here’s the PropOrNot report on bogus sites and their connection.
      
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byj_1ybuSGp_NmYtRF95VTJTeUk/view
      
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      February 5, 2017 12:03pm
      - stephieboy
        
        cha, another great find .
        
        Keep it up !
        
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        February 5, 2017 12:11pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        They’re lying right at the first bit. They’re funded by Soros, covertly of course, but that’s who’s behind it.
        
        Who needs the Russians to generate fake news when the entire US MSM is so good at it anyway ? And it was the Russians fault tha the Podesta eMails were so full of revealing moments ?
        
        One sees the pattern, when the Chinese hacked all the details of people who had sought security clearance and got a huge trove of private and personal information….crickets. When someone (presumed Russian but maybe Chinese) hacked the White House systems….crickets. But when the Russians (allegedly) hack the DNC it’s a national disaster because the revealed the true nature of the DNC. So, politics trumps national interest, who’d ever have thunk it.
        
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        February 5, 2017 1:46pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Ed Snack,
        
        The concern around fake news has been around for a while now – it’s just that with the DNC hacking, it’s hit prominence, and now the Democrats are concerned about it in a big way rather than those that have been noticing what Russia has been doing for a number of years now.
        
        The previous rise in prominence was the MH-17 downing with Russians trying to say it was everyone but them.
        
        And prior to that Russians taking over Crimea – but oh, the people there voted in favour of union. Yeah, right.
        
        It’s just been a gradual thing until the DNC and then everyone has noticed. Many are just a lot slower on the uptake than others.
        
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        February 5, 2017 2:15pm
Lance

Bloody hilarious

Barely Sober and Heather Duplicitous-Helen drive around worst part of Jo-Burg with their windows down, and someone tries to carjack them. They are left traumatised and shocked
These clowns are our MSM elites
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February 5, 2017 11:12am
- MrTips
  
  Well she could have taken a gun for protection….oh wait….
  
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  February 5, 2017 11:16am
  - KevinH
    
    Meanwhile back at the Four Seasons Joburg HDPA pauses after a night of frantic lovemaking with BS.
    HDPA: Wow I so needed that, I have’nt felt so alive for years
    BS: Well we were almost custard but yeah that was cool
    HDPA: Did you see the size of that gun he poked in the window?
    BS: Yeah nah it was’nt a gun, it was his shlong
    HDPA: Oh shit I was so blown away I forgot to put my glasses on.Maybe we can go back tonight for another go..
    BS: Thanks but no it won’t be his schlong he pokes in the window next time
    HDPA: Boring boring I told you it’s fun cruising the ghetto’s for excitement……
    
    Hehe
    
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    February 5, 2017 2:10pm
- realityczech
  
  I am surprised they mentioned it. Normally the media refuse to report how violent, savage and brutal Mandela’s wonderfull Rainbow Nation is.
  
  They have totally ignored the mass murder of whites, the highest rape and robberies in the world, and instead focus on word/thought crimes of whites.
  
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  February 5, 2017 11:43am
  - stephieboy
    
    realityczech, what ” mass murder ” of whites ? More “alternative :facts ” ?
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:08pm
    - realityczech
      
      70,000 Whites Murdered in ‘Modern’ South Africa; Obama’s African Legacy
      
      Since Nelson Mandela and the communist African National Congress (ANC) took over South Africa, more than 70,000 whites have been murdered and untold numbers have been robbed, raped and tortured.
      
      But you will not hear about this in the Western media, which fawns over the black terrorists who now run the once-prosperous country.
      
      https://americanfreepress.net/70000-whites-murdered-in-modern-south-africa-obamas-african-legacy/
      
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      February 5, 2017 12:13pm
      - Biscuit
        
        Realitychech, I am inherently suspicious of websites that go to to press with stories that are dependent on figures but which then don’t GIVE any credible figures.
        
        But I checked your link anyway.
        
        Did not the very first line give you a slightly inkling that what you were about to read just might be a teensy-weensy BIASED?:
        ‘Since Nelson Mandela and the communist African National Congress (ANC) took over South Africa, more than 70,000 whites have been murdered and untold numbers have been robbed, raped and tortured.’
        
        Your Paul Fromm was clearly too busy in clueing us up to the supposed political leanings of the ANC than he was to give us figures worth looking at. ‘Over 70,000’ and ‘untold numbers’, soz, don’t cut it!
        
        This site is far more credible:
        
        http://mg.co.za/article/2013-10-10-are-sa-whites-really-being-killed-like-flies
        
        I’d need to do more checking, natch, but let’s use just one stat that that site uses, from Interpol, that reckons post-1994 there have been an annual average of 47 882 murders.
        
        Your 70,000 (horrific as it is) wouldn’t even fill two years’ worth of that stat.
        
        Which would mean that something like a million blacks have been murdered in the same period.
        
        What was your point again?
        
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        February 5, 2017 2:51pm
      - stephieboy
        
        realityczech and Biscuit , I’ll believe it when say Anmesty International or Genocide Watch document it .
        
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        February 5, 2017 3:16pm
      - BeeSting
        
        I have 2 man stopping dogs and I garden
        with a really nicely size Kukri Machete
        
        got some other things but the dogs are the most important thing fore warned is for armed
        
        I welcome strangers – can always do with some blood and bone for the flower beds
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDsSSuFSkTY
        
        The Dogs love the Kukri they go APE SH*T
        when I bring it out – they know what it is for.
        
        I come over your hedge and F ark you up you
        WHITE BASTARD really ha ha ha
        
        COME ON OVER bring a friend or 2
        
        Topiary is one of my Hobbies
        
        I sing this when using me Kukri
        
        You have to get a rhythm going
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWTDcP9Y5E
        
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        February 5, 2017 10:33pm
  - BeeSting
    
    Have you not had people try to kill you or threaten to in New Zealand because you are white?
    
    Mate you have not lived there long enough?
    
    At least once a Year.
    
    Kumbaya
    
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    February 5, 2017 10:50pm
Jack5

Little confirms he’s bringing Willie Jackson into Labour.

Will Jackson now step down from his talkback posts?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11795092
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February 5, 2017 11:20am
- cha
  
  Banks.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Banks_(New_Zealand_politician)#Member_of_Parliament
  
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  February 5, 2017 11:50am
Jack5

Whoops – just notice this covered a couple of posts higher in the thread. Sorry.

Barely Sober fights off car jacker in Johannesburg.

What were Mr and Mrs Barely Sober doing driving around a paricularly lawless suburb of Johannesburg with a car window open, FFS?

Barely tells of his fight:

I ended up wrestling with the guy and managed to whack him in the face before getting the window up and getting away.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11794828
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February 5, 2017 11:28am
- realityczech
  
  They were going to write a story about how wonderful it is there, but the white people are still oppressing the ~~vicious black thugs~~ beautiful enlightened indigenous peoples ?
  
  “managed to whack him in the face “
  
  That’s a hate crime right there !
  
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  February 5, 2017 11:51am
- Jack5
  
  Damn! TV3 may have axed du Plessis-Allan, but the Hooerald is propping up her celebrity status, with a column today.
  
  The Hooerald’s embrace and use of radio and TV lightweights is a great argument for controls on media consolidation.
  
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  February 5, 2017 2:12pm
Fletch

I’m not totally familiar with U.S politics – so, how can a judge block an Executive Order of a president?
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February 5, 2017 11:29am
- fernglas
  
  In this case, by ordering it to be stayed temporarily on the grounds that there is an arguable case that the law is unconstitutional. The separation of the executive and the judiciary is one of the great cornerstones of democracy, enabling a check on the unbridled exercise of executive power. It’s back in Court tomorrow for further argument.
  
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  February 5, 2017 12:04pm
  - Inandout
    
    The problem arises if the Supreme Court is stacked with radical judges, then the balance to check on unbridled power is upset.
    
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx
    
    Eighty three year old Ruth Ginsburg is as mad as a hatter and bitterly anti Trump.
    
    http://www.newsday.com/news/health/with-trump-in-power-ruth-bader-ginsburg-s-health-worries-liberals-1.13054881
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:18pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, I think you will find it in the constitution where the judiciary can override or review certain executive orders that are seen to be against the same constitution and its ammendments .
  
  Otherwise known as the seperation of powers of the three branches pf goverment with their respective checks and balances to ensure the Constitution is upheld .
  
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  February 5, 2017 12:04pm
- jonar
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
  
  Like both legislative statutes and regulations promulgated by government agencies, executive orders are subject to judicial review and may be struck down if deemed by the courts to be unsupported by statute or the Constitution.
  
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  February 5, 2017 12:09pm
  - stephieboy
    
    The pwoer of Judical review will really irk Trump and his chief propaganda spokesman , Bannon .
    
    What to do ? A “Seven Days in May “scenario on the cards ?
    
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058576/
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:16pm
- Gabby
  
  Because the yankers don’t have a king.
  
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  February 5, 2017 1:00pm
realityczech

Bomb a country, kills thousands, destroy the lives of millions = NOT RACIST

Put a few temporary immigration measures in place = RACIST HATE CRIME !!!

By this time Obama had already been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize 🙂
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February 5, 2017 11:48am
- cha
  
  All caps in bold = fuckwit!
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  February 5, 2017 11:51am
  - realityczech
    
    random back-slashes = mass murderer
    
    Had a falling out with your boyfriend this morning poofter ?
    
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    February 5, 2017 11:58am
    - cha
      
      Whose hand’s up your clacker, sockie?.
      
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      February 5, 2017 12:05pm
      - realityczech
        
        Straight away he/she/it ? turns the conversation to “hand’s up your clacker”
        
        What you people do is your business in the privacy of your own home/dungeon, but stop rubbing it in the faces of normal people.
        
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        February 5, 2017 12:10pm
    - Gabby
      
      Falling out over your mum, runtychick.
      
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      February 5, 2017 1:03pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Troll.
  
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  February 5, 2017 12:14pm
  - realityczech
    
    Oh look the boyfriend is chiming in. Looks like they made up. They can now spend the afternoon indulging their filthy perversions.
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:20pm
- Fletch
  
  The next time there is a terrorist attack on U.S soil, the judge is going to have hell to pay.
  
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  February 5, 2017 12:18pm
  - realityczech
    
    He might have trouble paying anything as he might be out of a job.
    
    Trump knows that most right minded people are on his side and ignores the fake media outrage.
    
    Next we will see the rise of the new right in Europe. The new right being the most liberal and free minded alternative to the elitist and intolerant zealots of the left.
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:23pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch, the US has such a thing as the Rule of Law and Judical Review was not used or necessary in e.g the Orlando and San Berndino attacks .
    
    It is surprising given the time you spent dissing Obama with false conspiracy theories etc that you know so little about the basic functions of US government .
    
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    February 5, 2017 12:29pm
    - realityczech
      
      Rule of law !!!
      
      Trump haters calling for and carrying out the mass killings of whites. Kidnapping and torturing disabled white kids. Riots, rapes and murder by Trump haters.
      
      The need martial law to protect society from those people.
      
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      February 5, 2017 12:50pm
      - sam green
        
        Oh dear – the X-Men have a new mutant.
        
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        February 5, 2017 7:54pm
    - burt
      
      The US does have rule of law and if they continue to act decisively and wisely they will keep it that way and not end up with sky fairy sharia law.
      
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      February 5, 2017 12:58pm
      - stephieboy
        
        burt , there , there .Touch base and try to stay in the real world
        
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        February 5, 2017 3:19pm
Nookin

I see that the nice Mr Little is saying that he may, in future, boycott the Te Tii Marae — having got stuck into Bill English for not going and having accused English of failing to display leadership. I seem to recall that little also said he go go whether allowed to speak or not.

His reason: the restrictions on the media are inconsistent with the public roll he has to play. IOW, there won’t being anyone there to take his photo. Dipstick!
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February 5, 2017 12:27pm
Stars And Stripes

Alison Mau: ‘Are Kiwis really the generous, charitable open-hearted people we like to think?’
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89093637/alison-mau-are-the-rest-of-us-kiwis-really-the-generous-charitable-openhearted-people-we-like-to-think-we-are.
“Kailesh Thanabalasingham came to New Zealand as a refugee from Sri Lanka. Just before Christmas 2016 fire ripped through his home in Auckland’s Flat Bush, killing most of his family and eventually him after weeks in hospital, and leaving his daughter orphaned at just 11 years old.
I asked my colleague, the US politics commentator Tracey Barnett, to tell me a bit about her friend Kailesh (they served on the executive Board of the Refugee Council of New Zealand together) and she painted me a picture of exactly the kind of citizen New Zealand needs: “Kailesh was a devoted husband, father, an electrical engineer – and a former refugee himself. He was also an example of something that doesn’t have a label; he provided a societal payout that can’t be measured by some politician’s ledger entry.
“From the day this man arrived on our shores to begin a new life, he was determined to give back the kindness this country had shown him. And he never stopped. In my book, his was an extraordinarily successful life, having given back more than he took”.

A heart warming little pro refugee piece from Mau but more striking is the glowing almost sycophantic praise of Kailesh Thanabalasingham.
Now I am making no judgement whether the accusations against this guy are true or false but definitely there are enough question marks in my opinion to warrant further investigation but Mau seems sure he is a saint apparently.
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February 5, 2017 12:36pm
Happychappy

Well Winston has gone into bat for Media at Waitangi and has been told to move so he has replied with I have been coming here for 40yearsand has ended up arguing with protesters. Winston Peters has a love,hate relationship with the Media and very seldom says any thing nice or kind about them so it makes you wonder what sort of a deal he has been offered by some of NZ’s not so truthful journalists.
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February 5, 2017 1:43pm
Keeping Stock

Not everyone in Labour is happy about Wille Jackson’s waka-jumping. Chch East MP Poto Williams has called on him to apologise for his behaviour during the Roastbusters saga.
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February 5, 2017 2:13pm
Happychappy

Well it is going to be interesting to see what Dover Samuels and others from Labour will say with Willie Jackson being offered in Andrew Littles mind a winnable position in the top ten on Labours List and the Maori Affairs Portfolio. This from a Leader that condemns and criticizes others for doing back room deals but it seems he is the master of them all.
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February 5, 2017 2:24pm
- Happychappy
  
  Sorry it should read Maori Development not affairs
  
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  February 5, 2017 5:39pm
stephieboy

Alternative facts the Trump way,

Kellyanne Conway blames refugees for ‘Bowling Green massacre’ that never happened

Donald Trump’s senior adviser uses fictitious incident to justify US president’s travel ban

” Kellyanne Conway, a senior adviser to Donald Trump, has come in for criticism and ridicule after blaming two Iraqi refugees for a massacre that never happened.

Conway, the US president’s former campaign manager who has frequently faced the press to defend his controversial moves, cited the fictitious “Bowling Green massacre” in an interview in which she backed the travel ban imposed on visitors from seven Muslim-majority countries.

Interviewed by Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s Hardball programme on Thursday evening, Conway compared the executive order issued by Trump in his first week in the White House to what she described as a six-month ban imposed by his predecessor Barack Obama.

This claim has been debunked by commentators who have pointed out that the 2011 action was a pause on the processing of refugees from Iraq after two Iraqi nationals were arrested over a failed attempt to send money and weapons to al-Qaida in Iraq….’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/03/kellyanne-conway-refugees-bowling-green-massacre-never-happened

LOL !
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February 5, 2017 3:25pm
- Fletch
  
  Actually, she apologized for getting it wrong, something a liberal would never do. She says she meant to say “Bowling Green terrorists”, not massacre. Here’s what happened –
  
  Here’s what happened: In 2011, two Iraqi men were arrested on charges related to terrorism in Bowling Green, Kentucky. They were later convicted of trying to get weapons and money from the United States to al Qaeda in Iraq. They were also convicted of helping al Qaeda carry out attacks on American troops in Iraq.
  
  http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/bowling-green-not-massacre-terrorists-trnd/index.html
  
  Both men were admitted to the U.S as refugees. So, although she misspoke, her point is still well made.
  
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  February 5, 2017 3:51pm
rangitoto

Warmists up to their tricks again.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html#comments
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February 5, 2017 3:27pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep, its Climategate 2 .
  
  Dodgy data, dodgy computer programs, dodgy scientists = Crap science.
  
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  February 5, 2017 5:13pm
  - realityczech
    
    Failure to believe in warmer weather marks you as a racist Trump supporter who lives on a diet of GMO from Monsanto and who hates Mexicans.
    
    You should be ashamed.
    
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    February 5, 2017 5:22pm
  - rangitoto
    
    I often have seen the claim the last century has had the fastest rate of warming in the Earth’s history. The Vostock ice core data disputes this – even in relatively recent times.
    
    http://motls.blogspot.co.nz/2017/02/vostok-warming-or-cooling-by-2-c-per.html#more
    
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    February 5, 2017 5:55pm
Manolo

Tough. The Chinese do not like the language.
http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-china-mattis-20170204-story.html
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February 5, 2017 4:49pm
Jack5

Poor old Dame Devoid. So much to do.

Now she’s going to have to sort out the plumbing industry.

Guess the President Trump vusa business will have to wait.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11793993
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February 5, 2017 5:11pm
- nasska
  
  The article doesn’t mention whether the Saffers were black or white Jack so we have no way of foretelling the mad Commissioner’s reaction. To surmise:
  
  Black plumbing business vs white customer = move on, nothing to see here, case closed.
  
  White plumbing business vs white customer = ditto.
  
  Black plumbing business vs black customer = I see nothinggggg!
  
  White plumbing business vs black customer = Armageddon. The plumbers will be held up for public derision then burnt at the stake of equality.
  
  Business nowadays isn’t as straightforward as we have been led to believe.
  
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  February 5, 2017 5:44pm
big bruv

So fans of the IAG rugby team, how do you explain this?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/89108781/all-blacks-lock-patrick-tuipulotu-shocked-by-positive-drug-test

Perhaps the NZ team have finally been exposed as the cheats they are.
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February 5, 2017 6:09pm
- realityczech
  
  All the AB’s are majorly jacked and juiced. He clearly did something to be singled out.
  
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  February 5, 2017 6:21pm
nasska

This could be some of the best news from medical research experts we’ve heard in a long time.

…..”New super-strength antibiotics could be developed to kill drug-resistant bacteria in minutes, a study has found.

Modifying existing antibiotics could make them much more powerful and able to rip apart germ cells to stop infections in their tracks, said scientists.”…..

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11795159
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February 5, 2017 6:51pm
Nookin

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89107537/winston-peters-threatened-with-arrest-at-waitangi

I see Stuff is headlining that Mr Peters was threatened with arrest for standing in a public place in sight of someone who did not want to see him.
It did occur to me that the notion of an offence of undesirable visibility in a public place did have temporary appeal.

Complainant: “Officer, there is Mr Little. Arrest that man!”

PC “I will sir, but why””

Complainant: “Because he is there”.

On reflection, I suspect that enforcing such a law would be as realistic as expecting the news media not to publish such frikken stupid headlines!!
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February 5, 2017 7:33pm
- fernglas
  
  When he spoke in the separate facility for the politicians, would he have been loitering within tent?
  
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  February 5, 2017 9:33pm
nasska

“Homelessness in Auckland is a stain on New Zealand’s conscience……we must be able to find solutions to it”.

I’m not sure that importing a few tens of thousand Muslims is the right way to go about it.
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February 5, 2017 8:14pm
BeeSting

These are the Breed of Dogs I recommend for Auckland (not in any order)

GSD
(Get Working Strains some of the east Europeans are seriously good)

Doberman
(Look up their Service in the Pacific WW2 Great Dogs)

Rottweiler (Great Jaws)

Great Dane Deutsche Dog
(Harlequins are really nice)

Boxer (good with kids – great guard)

Plenty of other like the Bullmastiff etc

Not having something like the above to protect yourself and your family is just irresponsible
when you consider what the Government policies are.
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February 5, 2017 10:44pm
Manolo

Keeping his distance.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2017/02/05/senate-republican-leader-distances-himself-from-trump-stances-on-russia-judge-vote-probe/
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February 6, 2017 6:56am
Manolo

Dynastic aspirations?
http://observer.com/2017/02/chelsea-clinton-congressional-run-democratic-party/

Since Hillary Clinton’s presidential election loss, rumors have circulated that speculate about what she will do next. In trying to predict Clinton’s future—from running for mayor of New York City to hosting her own TV show—the idea has also been advanced that her daughter, Chelsea Clinton, may enter politics herself. Though being the progeny of the widely-disliked Bill and Hillary should disqualify Chelsea, the Democratic Party’s cultist obsession with her family’s access to a vast network of wealthy donors leaves any congressional race of her choosing open to Chelsea if she wants to run.
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