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DifferentPerspective

Leftist Fake News
The morally bankrupt cultural Marxist “Emily Writes” at the Spinoff has done another of her screamingly dishonest posts in that ‘paragon’ of low brow blogism.

In this “fake news” pieces she dresses up Family First’s concern about forcing girls in schools to put up with boys in their bathrooms and changing rooms into

Bob McCoskrie and his perverted vocal minority are trying to get us to bully children about the toilets they use

Throughout the whole piece she goes through tortuous editorial gymnastics to avoid ever saying those trigger words/phrases that ordinary, decent people would be tipped off by “transgender”, “social engineering of our schools”, “made-up Orwellian thought crime”, “gender diversity tolerance” are all starkly absent from this dishonest hit piece.

This is why the Left can’t be trusted, this is why year after year the most awful National govt in recent times is voted back in.

It’s worth keeping an eye on this marginal puffery blog just to see how insidious the lies are from the cultural Marxists that make-up the Left these days.
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February 25, 2017 8:09am
- reid3
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/22/trump-administration-revokes-obama-era-transgender-bathroom-guidance-for-schools.html
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:13am
- stephieboy
  
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  And yet the same” most awful “National Government has been complicit in way or another in fostering this so called cultural Marxist social engineering over the years.
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:28am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Good to have you backing me up again Stephie – appreciate it {{[[insert gender neutral term of your choice instead of “bud”]]}}
    
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    February 25, 2017 8:31am
    - stephieboy
      
      DP, I said ((( so called ))) !
      
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      February 25, 2017 9:03am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        [[Irony off]]]] 🙂 I know
        
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        February 25, 2017 9:50am
  - reid3
    
    Yes they have stephie and if you’ve been paying attention you’ll have noted that in all of their marxist initiatives I, as a conservative, have been on here arguing vociferously against them. Go and look at the record, if you care to.
    
    Your point is?
    
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    February 25, 2017 8:47am
- Inandout
  
  Tucker subjects this transgender supporter to ridicule on Fox. Carlson knows how to get these weirdos in a flummox by asking direct questions; exquisite example of an airhead Leftist here.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxRve2V6QS0
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:51am
  - Kiwiladdy
    
    I love how the intellectual left pretends to take the high ground trying to call out logic fallacies, while screaming things like “right-wing pseudo science”. Idiots can’t see the hypocrisy.
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:44am
    - stephieboy
      
      kiwiladdy, common sense prevails on the issue . A great many restaurants , cafes and public toilets these days are unisex .
      
      Carlson and others like yourself need to get over yourselves .
      
      Fletch , people are not entiteled tohave feelinhgs about themselves, except to be hetero ?
      
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      February 25, 2017 10:23am
      - Fletch
        
        stephie, they can feel what they want, but it is unwise to make policy depending on people’s feelings as opposed to actual biological facts. All the wishing in the world won’t let a man become a woman just because he wants to. Heck (to use a phrase that liberals often use) this is the 21st Century isn’t it? We are so scientifically advanced we know just about everything there is to know about human biology and what makes a person male or female.
        
        What is amusing to me is that when it comes to subjects to do with creationism etc, liberals will always deflect to the argument that ‘science is king’. We should all focus on the Science rather than Faith. When it comes to human sexuality, however, science goes completely by the board and we have to take it on faith that a person is the gender they claim to be (or want to be).
        
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        February 25, 2017 11:33am
      - stephieboy
        
        Fletch, no when it comes to creationism etc liberals and lefties do not deflect the “argument saying science is king .”
        
        They most often simply ask for the scientific evidence other than faith based accounts in the Bible .
        
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        February 25, 2017 11:45am
      - stephieboy
        
        Fletch, no when it comes to creationism etc liberals and lefties do not deflect the “argument saying science is king .”
        
        They most often simply ask for the scientific evidence ( geology, palaeontology, biology etc ) other than faith based accounts in the Bible
        
        Gender assignment/preference is a complex matter that interacts both with biology and the environment much of which is still not fully understood .
        
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        February 25, 2017 11:50am
      - Kiwiladdy
        
        Stephie, I’m actually extremely liberal on these sorts of things. I’m a full believe that people can dress, act, talk, however the fuck they want. If that means a grown man with a penis wants to dress like a lady in a dress then so be it.
        
        But I’m also a realist. If you have a penis you are a male and you should use the men’s toilet, if only from a practicality sense (mens toilets have urinals, womens have sanitary bins, etc).
        
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        February 25, 2017 12:01pm
      - PhilBest
        
        The bleeding-heart libbewwal position on this is epitomised by snivelling Lizzie in the Herald today, she tells us that these poor people “truly are a woman” who has been cursed to have been born with a peepee – or “truly a man” who has been cursed to have been born with a vagina and boobs!
        
        Not a man with a problem in his mind / brain, or likewise a woman.
        
        Bleeding-heart libbewwals whole mindset is that their “thinking so”, makes it so. Not just on this issue either. Talk about arrested mental development!
        
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        February 25, 2017 1:22pm
      - chiz
        
        Fletch:
        
        We are so scientifically advanced we know just about everything there is to know about human biology and what makes a person male or female
        
        Nope. We’re still in the dark about a whole lot of human biology especially when it comes to the brain. We’ve identified the gene on the Y chromosome that is ultimately responsible for gender but we still don’t understand its downstream effects on the brain. We do however have good evidence that the brains of transgender people tend to differ from those of cisgender people.
        
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        February 25, 2017 1:53pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stephie says’A great many restaurants , cafes and public toilets these days are unisex’
        
        Hung around a lot of toilets have you Stephie?
        
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        February 25, 2017 1:55pm
    - pentwig
      
      Kiwi laddy
      You cannot call steffie as being part of the intellectual left. steffie does not have a brain.
      
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      February 26, 2017 7:41pm
  - Fletch
    
    Classic. He even offered the guy $1000 if he could get any scientist to come on his show and explain the scientific basis for determining sex according to how people feel about their own identity.
    
    I think it probably pees these people off when Tucker physically laughs at their arguments on air as well. They deserve to be laughed at, as their arguments are amusing 🙂
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:17am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  The Spinoff is a hardcore Cultural Marxist agitprop operation.
  
  They switched off their comments section last year because they were getting constantly triggered by commenters destroying their arguments.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:35am
- oldpark
  
  Fake news merchants shut out of Whitehouse on Friday. CNN,better known as Clinton News Network, leading the charge of fake news ,were told to piss off ,as well as New York Times, Washington Post ,and Los Angeles news. Interesting the mentioned fake news merchants,are great supporters of illegal immigrants,who it is alleged voted for crooked Hillary,they represent the states were the illegals have hunkered down.
  
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  February 25, 2017 12:23pm
reid3

PIZZAGATE CELEBRITY JAMES WOODS PUTS JOHN PODESTA ON BLAST OVER PIZZA GATE #SKIPPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx7HYk6DQBk&sns=em

Lady Rothschild Blasts John “Pizzagate” Podesta On Twitter – Lady Rothschild has blasted John Podesta as a “loser” who ran an “arrogant and out of touch campaign” in extraordinary public comments that may signal John “Pizzagate” Podesta is seen as a liability and is about to be pushed under the bus by the elite.

http://yournewswire.com/rothschild-pizzagate-podesta-twitter/
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February 25, 2017 8:11am
- reid3
  
  http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/02/23/oh-good-grief-wapo-hires-entrenched-dem-john-podesta-political-insight-d-c-trump-admin-451932
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:17am
- stephieboy
  
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  Pizzzagate is a laughable myth of fake moonlanding and flat earth proportions
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:31am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Apologising for pedophiles again? It seems to be such a problem with the left these days what with trying to force women to have men in their bathrooms and forced introduction of muslims who want to marry children….
    
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    February 25, 2017 8:33am
    - Paulus
      
      I see that a Mr Keith Ellison is expected to be the US Democrats new leader, and his intention is to stuff Trump at every move. He is of course a Lawyer.
      First time for a Muslim Afro American to achieve such a position.
      
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      February 25, 2017 9:02am
      - fernglas
        
        I thought there were heaps of Muslim Afro-American lawyers?
        
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        February 25, 2017 11:23am
    - stephieboy
      
      DP, again Pizzagate is a lie or more chartibly a myth. The following link demonstates its farcial nature if it wasn’t for it’s potentially serious damging consequences ,
      
      Shoot out at the Comet Ping Pong ,
      
      http://wtop.com/dc/2016/12/comet-ping-pong-reopens-shooting-spurred-conspiracy/slide/1/
      
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      February 25, 2017 9:05am
  - pentwig
    
    links for the comments steffie!!
    
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    February 26, 2017 7:46pm
Manolo

Another book for Kimbo: Seven Brief Lessons on Physics by Carlo Rovelli. A very good read.
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February 25, 2017 8:11am
- Kimbo
  
  Thank you, Manolo. But how come you didn’t make it as first post on GD today? An anomaly in the space-time continuum? 😉
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:55am
  - PhilBest
    
    Something like what happened in between books one and two of Pratchett’s Discworld series, where it turned out Rincewind falling off the edge of the earth was a happily reversible event?
    
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    February 25, 2017 1:25pm
- Manolo
  
  Modesty above all is my motto. ?
  
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  February 25, 2017 3:01pm
Manolo

It is all on:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/24/nyt-democrats-are-declaring-total-war-on-trump/

Democrat Party leaders are planning to agree on a strategy of all-out war against President Donald Trump at meetings this weekend, rather than work to achieve their policy goals through compromise.
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February 25, 2017 8:19am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  The last time the Democrats were this angry was when the Republicans took their slaves away!
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:24am
  - stephieboy
    
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    And the Republicans with their” Southern Srtategy” won the southern whites back .
    
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    February 25, 2017 8:33am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      So that’s typos in every post – apoplectic much??
      
      Oh well that was too easy – I can tick that job off my Saturday morning job list 🙂
      
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      February 25, 2017 8:34am
      - holysheet
        
        You and I should go fishing one day DP. Between us we always get the buggers to bite.
        
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        February 25, 2017 8:47am
    - GazzaW
      
      Stephie, I’m not one to get pedantic about poor spelling & typos but you do not appear to have the same level of attention to detail as the other stephies. Have you come off the bench or drawn the short straw to work on Saturday morning?
      
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      February 25, 2017 10:32am
      - jims_whare
        
        Being Saturday the normal Stephie is probably having a sleep in and Stephie junior is ‘havin a go’.
        
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        February 25, 2017 11:02am
    - PhilBest
      
      And today, the Republican South has the USA’s least racially segregated cities, which goes along with them being affordable (median multiples of around 3). In contrast the libbewwal cities in the North and West, have affordability problems and segregation problems.
      
      I look forward to Stephieboy challenging me for supporting links. There is an embarrassment of riches on these points, as there is on many things that contradict lefties mythical assumptions about regional cultures, policy outcomes, etc
      
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      February 25, 2017 12:16pm
- Huevon
  
  And this will see them decline into irrelevance, just like NZ and UK Labour. At the rate things are going, the Republicans will be to push tbrough constitutional amendments soon.
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:26am
  - stephieboy
    
    “The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures.”
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution
    
    With the rider that it is also politically advantageous to the governing majority .
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:13am
- Viking2
  
  Are there any Democrats or labour left’s that actually know what the “people” want and have any inclination of how to achieve them?
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:32am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not in good old working class North England, it would appear.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39076844
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:17am
Huevon

Imagine how great NZ would be if we had an organisation like CPAC.
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February 25, 2017 8:20am
- stephieboy
  
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  Huevon , whats stopping you getting off your keyboard ,puting your hand up and start one?
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:34am
  - Jack5
    
    “Commas” is the Stephie rostered on today.
    
    Commas , you could try a good grammar book , if there is time before dhuhr or between dhuhr and asr .
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:26am
Chuck Bird

How many think this woman’s view is extreme? I think she should try for a qualification in statistics. Let us say the 1 in 3 figure is correct for girls being sexually abused that does not mean 1 in 3 men sexual abuse children.

Why I won’t let any male babysit my children

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/family-life/89779262/why-i-wont-let-any-male-babysit-my-children
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February 25, 2017 8:33am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Well I can sympathise with her view if it’s about people from the Left.
  
  They seem to have a thing about men “doing” children, there’s Left’s:
  – the ‘no smoke without fire’ problem with pizzagate and
  – the ‘men in girls’ bathrooms push’ problem along with
  – the “Islam is OK because it legitimises grown men raping child brides” problem
  
  So you’d have to say – who’d want men from the Left babysitting kids if they believe these things?
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:38am
- Longknives
  
  One can understand this woman’s protectiveness over her children.
  But- Considering Maori are statistically the worst Child Abusers on the planet..She might consider writing another article- ‘Why I wont let any Maori near my Children’?..
  No??
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:38am
  - holysheet
    
    That’s getting close to hate speech, watch out for Dim devoid next week.
    
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    February 25, 2017 8:50am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Longknives my reason for posting this item was to show that white, heterosexual, non Muslim males are about the only group that can be discriminated against in this way. Muslim women are the ones who preform FGM.
    
    If this woman had added lesbians and/or Muslim women to the group who could not babysit her daughters she would get a lot less support than she has which is not that much.
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:51am
- jonar
  
  Irony alert Chuck. It’s typical for KB commentators here to find some behaviour of people on the left (usually the extreme left) and then apply that to all people from the left.
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:45am
  - PhilBest
    
    Yeah, but it is funny how the “left” today doesn’t really have anyone repudiating the worst excesses of PC on their behalf. In fact even “centre right” governments don’t push back against even some of the most absurd stuff.
    
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    February 25, 2017 12:21pm
- Fletch
  
  Funny how in the last few years it’s female teachers who have been convicted of sex with their male students. There have been a whole swag of them. The media doesn’t seem to mind as much when it is women doing the offending though.
  
  There are 13 pages of examples at the link
  
  http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/39783/
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:47am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  As a male I am extremely hesitant to solo babysit for anyone – as if they go nutty then they can ruin your life with an accusation (that you have little ability to defend yourself from).
  
  Male teachers pretty much all get investigated every few years due to false accusations, and many leave the profession as a result of the stress and sense of fear/betrayal that results.
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:53am
  - fernglas
    
    This type of attitude is why there are so few male primary school teachers these days. Our boys are schooled without role models. Although perhaps that is what this woman would like to see; a bunch of emasculated drones to her Queen Bee.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:28am
  - jonar
    
    Male teachers pretty much all get investigated every few years due to false accusations, and many leave the profession as a result of the stress and sense of fear/betrayal that results
    
    Any stats to back that up?
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:56am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      You got any stats to back up that it ain’t true?
      
      No? Didn’t think so!
      
      Kind of like climate alarmism! You want to research some Chicken Little climate alarmist theory – no problem getting a research grant.
      
      Want to prove that Climate Alarmism is bollox? Sorry you are a denier – drummed out of school, kicked to the kerb, sent to Coventry, black-balled career over, out on your ear.
      
      The bottom line is you are not allowed to do the research that would prove the lying liars on the left are liars! ‘Cos the lying liars on the left rely upon their lies to fund their lying.
      
      There – hope that helped you jonar!
      
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      February 25, 2017 8:03pm
Happychappy

Well Penny Hulme having a dig at the Government about online voting and there dry run should have been in the Mt Albert By Election. Well Penny you might think it is fine but with people like Kim Dot Com and Nicky Hager in our Country that boast about hacking and are allowed to make money from the proceeds of hacking how would you know that they will not stop to this low again. Both these people have promoted for a change of Government and have stated they will do every thing to have a new Government so you might have faith in this system I and a lot of other NZ’ers don’t while people like this legally make money from breaking the Law.
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February 25, 2017 8:35am
- pdm
  
  Happychappy – you could have added while the Police and Electoral Commission stand by and take no action in regard to electoral fraud.
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:45am
- Paulus
  
  Likewise postal voting should be abolished where used.
  Far too easily open to abuse.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:05am
- reid3
  
  Yep. As Stalin said, it’s not who votes it’s who counts the votes.
  
  Unless you have an auditable paper trail you cannot guarantee democratic integrity, and who on earth is so stupid as to imagine it’s unacceptably inconvenient to wander down to the local school at some point in the day once every three years, when the integrity of our, not your, but our, democracy is the subject in question.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    reid, you suggesting widespread voter fraud and corruption by our Electoral Commission ?
    
    BTW, what happened to those alleged fraudulent Electronic voting machines said to set up by Soros during the last Presidential elction ?
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:18am
    - reid3
      
      No I’m not suggesting that at all in any way stephie and anyone who thought I was doesn’t understand English and is probably incredibly stupid.
      
      BTW, when you reply to one of my posts in future, pray stick to the general subject of what I was saying, rather than go galavanting off into a completely different, unrelated topic. But since you ask, since I’ve never posted anything on Soros in relation to that, how the fuck should I know, and next time, please word such idiotic questions in such a way as to make it clear to readers that his is YOUR idea of a question, and DOES NOT equate in any way to anything the poster has said on the matter. In fact, if you do think I have said something about a question you plan to ask me in future, always link to the post where I made it. This is because I have extreme doubts about not only your intelligence but also your integrity stephie, for good reason, and therefore I’m asking you back yourself with evidence everytime in future, otherwise I’ll just report it as abuse, every single time.
      
      Over to others of course but if anyone else has been similarly assailed by stephie in the past with lies and innuendo, I suggest you take the same approach. It seems that could be the only way to stop this guy from libellous lying and slandering.
      
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      February 25, 2017 10:29am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Reid3
        
        I believe stephieboy is working a steady campaign of defamatory innuendo against a number of us posting here on KB, especially those of us with known identities.
        As this is an election year, the last thing I want is to have KB go offline. There is surely a limit to how many complaints DPF can deal with.
        
        At present, I’m just happy for stephieboy to keep adding to his pile of harassing and defamatory posts.
        I can’t see that he is making any converts.
        
        He daily confirms the repugnant behaviour of his political stance.
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:51am
      - reid3
        
        I’d be with you on that Maggy if I thought stephie was capable of such deep thinking but I don’t.
        
        My analysis of him is that he’s a low intellect lefty green voter who hasn’t even moved past the basic understanding gained by maturity in most people, that not all people are as dumb as you are. This is why, I think, he conducts his daily operation of making counter-point after counter-point to posts in a vain attempt to “redress the balance.” It’s also why when he’s not doing that, he’s drawing fantastical conclusions about what the poster might think on a totally different topic, based on what the poster just said about something else.
        
        Those two tactics comprise 99% of his “contributions” and they both come from the same mindset. He’s so stupid he doesn’t understand that other people may be smarter than he is, therefore even if they do think “x,” this doesn’t necessarily mean they will also think “y.” But stephie can’t work that out, because he puts his idiotic thinking cap on when he reads something and thinks to his idiot self: “what would I think about “y” if I thought that about “x?” And he can’t comprehend that other people may have far more advanced nuance and evidence analytical skills than he does, which means that just because he might think that’s what they think, it doesn’t mean they do.
        
        As I say this is basic maturity 101, but he doesn’t have it, notwithstanding I believe he’s quite old.
        
        Given that he doesn’t seem to want to take on board, like most lefties, anything which conflicts his own pathetic and incorrect worldview, I have no sympathy for him and I wish he’d just fuck off because he adds absolutely no value whatsoever.
        
        Penny and philu added far, far, far more value than he has, or will. He’s that stupid.
        
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        February 25, 2017 11:43am
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy Wassilieff, I was merely asking a question not posting a statment of fact .
        
        What is wrong with that ?
        
        When exactly have I defamed you or reid ?
        
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        February 25, 2017 11:54am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        You are lying.
        Your question was,… was it a surprise that I had
        I had jumped onto the alt-right bandwagon?
        This is what you wrote:
        “Maggy W, is it not surprising a tree hugger like you has jumped onto the alt right band wagon ?
        
        Not really !
        
        That is is a clear public expression that I am on the alt-right.
        Your question pertains to the surprise bit.
        
        But remember you had previously linked me to neo-nazi and alt-right news sites.
        Material I have never referenced.
        
        So unless you can explain exactly what you meant by calling me an alt-righter, you had better accept that you have defamed me.
        
        This is your one and only opportunity to offer me a public apology.
        
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        February 25, 2017 12:25pm
      - PhilBest
        
        Stephieboy is a living exemplar of the thesis of Lyle M Rossiter’s book, “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness”.
        
        You are quite right that it is a matter of arrested development. These people never grow up beyond the child’s temper-tanty “it’s not FAIR!” phase.
        
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        February 25, 2017 12:26pm
      - reid3
        
        This is your one and only opportunity to offer me a public apology.
        
        And notice he hasn’t, even though he’s been back and downticked Phil for having the temerity to post a scientist’s opinion which fits stephie to a T.
        
        Notice he says “so there” at least several times in a normal week? Who, if they’re over twenty, ever says that, but in humour? Except he doesn’t say it in humour, does he. Just like Phil’s scientist says they would, if they had the dis-ease she apparently outlines.
        
        Thank you BTW Phil for that, if I’m ever interested in understanding the lefty mind, I’ll definitely explore it, but I’m afraid so far I’ve found much more interesting things to do in life to date than that.
        
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        February 25, 2017 6:07pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Nope – we don’t need widespread voter fraud!
      
      We have MMP.
      
      Have a look at the last election results.
      
      Each party vote for the Greens is worth three times as many list seats as a party vote for National is!
      
      That sounds like a not-very proportional representation to me! But then we do use a made-up social engineering voting system that has made Bolivia such a world power!
      
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      February 25, 2017 8:06pm
      - stephieboy
        
        DP, is it because you feel miffed that the Conservative Pary and Craig have both imploded and there is no credible alt right party to replace them ?
        
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        February 25, 2017 8:11pm
Longknives

I’m supposed to vote in the Mt Albert By-Election today- What a Motley bunch of Wannabe Communists and Professional Protestors!..
For the first time in my life- I’m not even bothering..
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February 25, 2017 8:37am
- stephieboy
  
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  Who cares ?
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:40am
- pdm
  
  Vote for Julie Ann Genter and scare the crap out of Andy and his Union mates/masters.
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:47am
- big bruv
  
  Go on do it Knives, at least it gets you out of the house. And, when you’re done you can wander along and look at the insane amount of your money being wasted on the gay pride march this evening.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:17am
- brett68
  
  Vote Genter, great opportunity to throw a spanner into the left coalition.
  
  If Genter does well or wins, the infighting will be immense and the lols will be endless.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:17am
- Viking2
  
  Anyone but Labour or the Greens. Even the TOP guy will do.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:33am
  - PhilBest
    
    Isn’t there any Wizard Party or McGillicuddy Serious Party candidates standing any more these days? We have sadly lost some Kiwi cultural icons.
    
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    February 25, 2017 12:28pm
- MrTips
  
  Its a shame LK, but Ardern will still win by a nose….
  
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  February 25, 2017 5:20pm
  - reid3
    
    Yes. I wonder if the commentary on the News tonight will be in the same tone as a horse race, that’d be appropriate and hilarious at the same time.
    
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    February 25, 2017 6:13pm
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Chuck Bird , given the prevalence of child sex abuse in our community and given its potentially life long consequences for her children , who can blame her .

DP ,

“So you’d have to say – who’d want men from the Left babysitting kids if they believe these things?

Utter drivel !
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February 25, 2017 8:40am
- realityczech
  
  “given the prevalence of child sex abuse in our community”
  
  You mean your community stephieboy.
  
  Do you hear from your family much over in Gitmo ?
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:47am
reid3

Public Service announcement #2

Downtick clickstorm blizzard progress update

GD’s only been up for an hour and already stephie’s clocked up an “I love/hate stephie’s mind” score of 2/41 = 0.04, which is not very good and I suspect has got even worse in the time its taken to write this.

Just thought you’d like to know.

Edit: yes it has got worse but I can’t be arsed adding it all up. Until next time.
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February 25, 2017 9:04am
- holysheet
  
  It’s a given that the fuckers will get down ticks almost as fast as the cat person. What with their constant defending of the paedo proffit and any thing to do with the lefties trying to justify why Trump won and Killary lost, then the down ticking will continue.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:12am
  - reid3
    
    No it’s not that hs, because other lefties who do that don’t have the same ratio as he does.
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:43am
- stephieboy
  
  reid, just focus your spongy squashy grey matter by providing proof of the derisory Pizzagate conpsiracy next time .
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:26am
  - Jack5
    
    Ahoy “Commas” of the Stephies team.
    
    صباح الخير والسلام That is, as well you know if you are still working on your Arabic as they told you to when you finished at the madrassa: “Good morning and peace”.
    
    If you pile up the adjectives as in your 9.26 post, you can have clean Muslim fun by putting your over-spaced commas after all but the last adjectives in the series.
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:33am
Jack5

The Hooerald is highlighting on its web site a report touting a Muslim, Keith Ellison, as next U.S. President.

Aha, has the Stephiestani Islamic troll syndicate infiltrated the Hooerald web editing team?

A Muslim President to follow Trump? When camels sprout wings.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11807418
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February 25, 2017 9:10am
- holysheet
  
  They just got rid of a useless one last year. The left never learn from the mistakes of history.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:14am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-18-2015/rxDEyo.gif
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:27am
kowtow

Yesterday we had a post from a fascademic seeking to defend the humanities as a place for critical thinking when in fact the academic was not defending the humanities (they don’t need defending) but was promoting cultural marxism .

Here’s an example from Germany.

“During the carnival parade different troops dress up as characters from historical eras, with some troops dressing as knights and damsels. The Südend troops have represented the German colonial era.

The accusations against them have come from a group of academics from the Fulda College, who say that the troop is spreading a racist and colonial world view.

The group also criticised the costumes in an email, saying that “with this they are normalising and trivialising genocide, oppression, and the deprivation of rights.”

They demanded that the troop lose the colonial costumes and the “black-facing”, calling it “derogatory, inhumane, and racist”.

And of course these academic bullies have won.

https://www.thelocal.de/20170224/carnival-troop-to-have-police-escort-after-racism-accusations

As a descendant of the peasantry , I am offended by knight costumes, which promote notions of feudal oppression , dispossession and violence. They also glorify foreign wars and religious genocide in the Middle East .
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February 25, 2017 9:13am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  your noble ancestry is likely to outweigh your peasant ancestry. Peasants were less likely to have children that survived to adulthood than nobles, and there was a continual downward shift and displacement of peasants by the progeny of richer merchants and nobles.
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:59am
  - kowtow
    
    As an urbanite you would say that, protected by walls and gates ,living in your merchant houses with indoor slop buckets and brick chimneys, while we peasants , covered in shit, toiled in the fields for our master living in his castle , living the high life ,occasionally rescuing damsels in distress , killing the odd dragon here and there and enjoying his droit de seigneur……..
    
    Lucky , lucky bastards.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:22am
- Gabby
  
  You’d think they could dig up some actual black faced fellows, what with the immigrants and all.
  
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  February 25, 2017 1:40pm
big bruv

If today is election day in Mt Albert is it not illegal for Penny Bright to still be displaying her billboards?

I do hope so, I also hope that she is prosecuted for doing so.
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February 25, 2017 9:14am
- Biscuit
  
  Will today be the day that historians will say was THE day that turned the tide?
  
  THE day when the people of Aotearoa finally recognised the undoubted talents of Penny Bright and swept her into office to begin her stellar Parliamentary career?
  
  What say you good people of Kiwiblog?
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:29am
  - fernglas
    
    The Bernie Sanders of New Zealand politics? She has more in common with Trump, so she may be a bit of a dark horse in this one.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:30am
- stigie
  
  Could be nine long fucking years before she’s prosecuted BB..?
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:04am
Gerrit

This whole toilet gender debacle will be over very quickly when a group of boys enter a girls toilet and claim entitled use due to considering themselves to be gendered as girls.

Oh what a commotion that would cause. Only possible answer are unisex toilets.
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February 25, 2017 9:17am
- Jack5
  
  Unisex toilets … will bisexuals be allowed in them?
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:20am
- big bruv
  
  Its simple, on this planet there are male and female humans, that is it. There are only two genders.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:39am
- mikenmild
  
  Unisex toilets are, of course, the best solution, which is no doubt why so many public toilets now follow that model.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:59am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Who wants to sit and stand in a load of male piss?
    
    I assure you males, that if you don’t sit to piss, you miss.
    
    (based on 50+ years of dunny cleaning)
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:22am
    - GazzaW
      
      Hmmm. Way back in my uni days I had a holiday job with the local authority and one of my less pleasant responsibilities was to clean the toilets in the public library. Let me assure you that the detritis left in the female toilets was equally as bad if not worse than the mens.
      
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      February 25, 2017 10:52am
    - Fletch
      
      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cc/3b/ff/cc3bff65040d25ecdd5d87e3e19a9fec.jpg
      
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      February 25, 2017 11:12am
      - cha
        
        Golden.
        
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        February 25, 2017 11:18am
    - waikatogirl
      
      I agree Maggy! Poor shots and spots!
      ?
      
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      February 25, 2017 2:52pm
  - kowtow
    
    Funny old world , innit, here we are so blessed , the mentally ill ( by some definitions) get to choose from a veritable plethora of shitters on offer while in nuclear armed Hindustan peasant girls go in fear of rape cos they don’t have the same universal ” human right” to a toilet as the rest of us.
    
    It is a shocking situation.
    
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-02/toilet-shortage-fueling-india-rape-scourge-as-women-easy-prey
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:28am
  - Happychappy
    
    MM/
    You have been conspicuous by your absence lately trust you are not crook and maybe on holiday, but good to see a comment today.
    
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    February 25, 2017 1:49pm
Jack5

Report in the Telegraph that Trump was right about Sweden’s immigration.

You won’t ever, ever, hear or see that correction on TVNZ.

Meanwhile TVNZ’s news hound in America, Rebecca Wrightweiler, has gone silent for a day or two. Can’t be any anti-Trump demonstrations worth covering.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/23/wont-admit-stockholm-donald-trump-right-immigration-sweden/
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February 25, 2017 9:17am
- stephieboy
  
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  Ahoy Jack 5 ,
  
  Sweden’s official Twitter account debunks Donald Trump claims line by line
  
  Sweden’s official Twitter account debunks Donald Trump claims line by line
  ‘I saw that this was a great opportunity to draw a line in the sand with facts,’ Max Karlsson tells The Independent
  
  An official Swedish Twitter account that is controlled by a different citizen each week has taken Donald Trump to task over his claims about the country.
  
  The US President was greeted with a mixture of confusion and ridicule after he told a campaign-style rally in Florida: “We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Who would believe this? Sweden! They took in large numbers, they’re having problems like they never thought possible.”
  
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sweden-donald-trump-official-twitter-refugee-rape-attack-claims-debunk-immigration-a7592821.html
  
  Plus,
  
  “Meet the 22-year-old fighting Trump’s terror talk about Sweden from the country’s official Twitter feed,”
  
  Before President Trump’s reference on Saturday to a terror attack in Sweden, the biggest story in Stockholm was this one: a report about the so-called “fake news” industrypublished by Dagens Nyheter, a Swedish newspaper.
  
  But Trump’s remark was met with a collective “What did he just say?” in Sweden, a country recognized by most Americans as largely peaceful, except in, say, Stieg Larsson novels.
  
  “You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden,” the president said to his supporters at a campaign-style rally in Melbourne, Fla., on Saturday. “Sweden, who would believe this?” Trump later explained he was watching a Fox News segment that featured a documentary filmmaker accusing the Swedish government of covering up an immigration-related crime wave there.’
  
  https://www.yahoo.com/news/meet-the-22-year-old-fighting-trumps-terror-talk-about-sweden-from-the-countrys-official-twitter-feed-194007419.html
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:42am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Sweden: Looting, Cars Torched, Police Attacked as Riots Break out in Migrant Suburb
    
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/21/sweden-cars-torched-looting-riots/
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:46am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    LMAO are you seriously saying if something is reported on TWITTER it’s proof?
    
    Let me direct you to the greatest truths of all.
    President Trumps Twitter feed!
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:58am
  - PhilBest
    
    Stockholm Syndrome
    
    https://youtu.be/RqaIgeQXQgI
    
    The Rape of Sweden
    
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/FluvpeD6lhQ
    
    Stephieboy is just part of the left that is so morally bankrupt as to be perpetrating this shame and denying it.
    
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    February 25, 2017 12:37pm
  - Gabby
    
    Chump trumplated the telly with real life. Worrying.
    
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    February 25, 2017 1:45pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  It was the very next day after Trump pointed out Sweden was a disaster zone, that massive riots by Mohammedans broke out in the Swedish capital.
  
  This is the problem for the Globohomos, people can actually see what is going on with their own eyes or from family and friends, in their own streets, neigbourhoods and towns.
  
  The Globohomos have lost control of the narrative.
  
  Notice the resulting increasingly hysterical tone of globohomos on this site like stephieGoi.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:42am
- kowtow
  
  Hahahaha
  
  The Trump/ Brexit revolution is having an effect even on the Quisling Swede PM who was at pains to contradict Trumps comments on Sweden.
  
  Having said that , there’s nothing like fear of being excluded from the trough to concentrate a pollie’s attention.
  
  “The Social Democrats have traditionally had a large working class voter base, and Löfven’s comments were seen as an attempt to win over voters fleeing to the anti-immigration far-right Sweden Democrats.”
  
  And why are voters “fleeing” to the so called anti immigrant party?
  
  http://www.thelocal.se/jobs/article/swedish-pm-seeks-to-cut-inflow-of-foreign-workers
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:45am
  - stephieboy
    
    kowtow,
    
    Ha, ha, ha,
    
    I wonder what the editors of e local, Trump and you were smoking on the night of the alleged terror attack ?
    
    http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/last-night-in-sweden-donald-trump-what-happened-incident-false-florida-rally-tweets-swedenincident/
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:52am
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      Sweden is a mess with violence by Mohammedans out of control.
      
      Trump is on the right track.
      
      You globohomos have lost control of the narrative.
      
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      February 25, 2017 10:28am
    - B.L.Zeebub
      
      Fortunately, the Muslim migrants rioted the next day to show us how peaceful they are and how Trump was wrong about Sweden having a Migrant problem.
      Glad they cleared that up for us.
      
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      February 25, 2017 10:55am
    - PhilBest
      
      The left and its members continuing to cling to the lie “Trump was talking about a terror attack”, win themselves about as much respect as a 3 year old throwing a temper-tanty over some fantasy it has in its little head.
      
      Keep it up, lefties! Trump / Pence 2020 here we come!
      
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      February 25, 2017 12:42pm
- itstricky
  
  You won’t ever, ever, hear or see that correction on TVNZ.
  
  It is an opinion piece. There’s no correction to be had.
  
  So, to summarise:
  
  The MSM are crooks spreading fake news except when they say something I agree with.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:50am
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    istricky,
    
    “The MSM are crooks spreading fake news except when they say something I agree with.”
    
    Good one !
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:56am
duggledog

Muslim purge

It’s the only way.

Wherever they go, in the West especially, trouble follows.

That is all I have to say on the matter.
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February 25, 2017 9:47am
- itstricky
  
  Muslim purge
  
  Good troll, or scary person. You decide.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:52am
- MCos
  
  “That is all I have to say on the matter.”
  Good
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:01am
CharlieBrown

“Immigration levels are fine and we don’t have a housing issue, and state housing is a brilliant idea”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/89584624/premium-motel-rates-danger-money-for-emergency-housing-risk

National are socialists with their heads in the sand.
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February 25, 2017 10:02am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  National are globohomos like all mainstream parties in the Western world.
  
  But things are changing at a rapid pace – Brexit, Trump, looking more and more likely Le Pen will take France, continuing economic convulsions.
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:33am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Yeah because it’s National voters living in those motels. Oh wait no its not. Its a subclass of human ferals who take everything and give nothing. Labour voters if they can even be fucked voting.
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:53am
  - CharlieBrown
    
    Its national voters that vote for this to happen. State housing creates more “have nots” than “haves”, record immigration levels create more demand for housing than an economy NZ’s size can provide, even if there were no earthquakes destroying buildings. And increasing regulation like National has only makes housing more expensive. We are importing a city the size of Rotorua every year – thats just stupid. Its socialism branded with a big blue N.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:58am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      State Houses were Labours pet. And I don’t vote for people to buy drugs and stay unemployed on my tax dime. I would make welfare time dependent, and everything would be food stamps and rent paid by the government. Screw up and you’re off it for a year. Then we’ll see the lefties bitch about poverty. And I certainly don’t want more immigrants until we sort our own problems.
      
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      February 25, 2017 12:04pm
      - CharlieBrown
        
        If State Houses were labours pet then why are National building more?
        
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        February 25, 2017 4:49pm
    - PhilBest
      
      Yeah, I talked to a National MP recently. He said the house prices thing really bothered him and was sure it was wrong that the party establishment had sat on its hands all these years while it got further and further out of control. It can’t end happily. “But the people kept voting for us” (shakes head in wonder)…
      
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      February 25, 2017 12:46pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        The problem is with Auckland Council. Unless the Government appoints a Commissioner is there really much it could do?
        -personally I wish they would appoint a Commissioner. AC is such a mess. Id like to see a knife cut through the waste at AT and ATEED too.
        
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        February 25, 2017 2:26pm
      - CharlieBrown
        
        The problem is with Auckland Council. Unless the Government appoints a Commissioner is there really much it could do?
        
        Utter bollocks. National control the regulatory regime and they have had 8 years to sort it out. National control the immigration policy and they’ve allowed RECORD levels of immigration to occur when infrastructure is already bursting. National have made houses more expensive to build by adding more regulatory burden.
        
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        February 25, 2017 4:51pm
- wiseowl
  
  English has given a speech where he blames the environment for the housing problem.
  Can you believe it? The environment.
  Now it looks as though reference to the productivity commission means they have the ear of National and we are going to be softened up for more unnecessary changes formed by elites.
  How about listening to the people Bill.
  Mass immigration is the main cause of the housing crisis just front up.
  
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  February 25, 2017 12:36pm
  - PhilBest
    
    It is absolutely correct that “preserving the environment from housing development” is responsible for the house price problem. In reality it most often turns out to be protecting farmland rather than nice native bush etc.
    
    Almost any amount of growth can be catered for by sufficiently free-market supply. Several US cities have been growing at a rate of 20%+ per decade, with house price median multiples remaining between 3 and 4. Building houses and infrastructure at scale, especially in an era of low financing costs, is extremely good for an economy.
    
    I don’t know how long it will take the economics profession to wake up to these success-story urban economies; they are too busy obsessing at the moment, with the “success” of “creative-class cities” with growth containment policies, price gouging, inequality and exclusion. But whatever is being created in those cities, it is seldom blue collar jobs, other than menial ones in services for the well-off.
    
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    February 25, 2017 12:54pm
dime

Trump gave a speech yesterday talking about how they are going after human trafficking in a big way

(no one goes after human trafficking more than trump).

interesting times.

that freak podesta, that pedo married to hillarys main advisor,… some big names are going to swing.

now, Dime shall sit back and watch the lefties here say “its a myth” “nothing to see here” etc they wont even want it looked into cause they have to be the opposite of trump. even it if means kids lives could be saved, no matter, gotta go against trump!
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February 25, 2017 10:03am
- stephieboy
  
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  dime , you really need to understand that Trump has not been the only one fighting human trafficking ,
  
  ” Obama signs anti-trafficking bill into law,”
  
  President Obama on Friday signed anti-human trafficking legislation that emerged from Congress after being the subject of a bitter battle on Capitol Hill earlier this year.
  
  “Obama signed the Justice for Victims of Trafficking Act of 2015, White House press secretary Josh Earnest announced in a statement late in the evening”
  
  http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/243519-obama-signs-anti-trafficking-law
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:11am
  - Ross12
    
    Yes and Obama deported millions of illegal immigrants while in office but somehow when Trump continues the action it is all wrong.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:57am
    - cha
      
      Obama deported millions of illegal immigrants while in office
      
      Nope, the rate of interior deportation, the removal of undocumented residents, fell under Obama.
      
      ICE removed 65,332 aliens from the interior in 2016. That is a decline of 6 percent from 2015 and down 73 percent from 2009, the year President Obama took office.
      
      http://cis.org/ICE-deportations-hit-10-yr-low?platform=hootsuite
      
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      February 25, 2017 12:09pm
      - Ross12
        
        Try looking at the bigger picture cha , not just a couple of years.
        In 8 years there 2.5 million , a little more than under Bush ( 2.0 million)
        http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/
        
        NB. I’m not criticising Obama , I’m just noting the total hypocrisy of Trump’s critics
        
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        February 25, 2017 12:42pm
      - cha
        
        Sure, legislative changes and increasing numbers trying to gain entry meant Customs and Border agency numbers rose but the numbers of undocumented residents deported by ICE fell markedly.
        
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        February 25, 2017 1:10pm
      - Ross12
        
        “As of 2015, more than 2.5 million undocumented people had been deported by immigration authorities since President Obama took office in 2009, a total which is indeed record-setting. During the two terms of his predecessor, President George W. Bush, just over 2 million people were deported.”
        
        In the first paragraph of the link !!!
        
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        February 25, 2017 2:14pm
    - Gabby
      
      How about pointing out the hypocrisy of Obama’s critics.
      
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      February 25, 2017 2:20pm
      - realityczech
        
        Obama took care of the border with drones, armed patrols and attack dogs. He was a nasty little monkey.
        
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        February 25, 2017 2:35pm
- cha
  
  John Casablancas
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:57am
- jonar
  
  (no one goes after human trafficking more than trump).
  
  https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/24-things-nobody-does-better-than-trump-according-to-trump/58a766ff8c0157477a35a726?latest_videos=1
  
  According to himself he’s amazing!
  
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  February 25, 2017 1:36pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    To be fair, if he does anything at all about it he will have done more than 90% of his predecessors. If its on his radar, I bet at the end of his Presidency he is statistically the most active opponent of it. It’s still early days.
    
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    February 25, 2017 6:44pm
Happychappy

I wonder how many people would have thought we would have learnt from our misdeeds on Pacific Islanders fifty years or so ago and now we have the same sort of vendetta against Muslims. While I don’t completely agree with our Immigration Policy it does not mean that all Muslims carry the same stigma and deserve the abuse they are tarnished with by some NZ’ers.
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February 25, 2017 10:08am
- reid3
  
  Yes this is what I too have pointed out for decades HC but the point is, there is a branch of Islam which does act like what people say, and it is Wahabbi, who come from the Sunni side of the family.
  
  And Wahabbi practices are what ISIS follows and teaches. Of course the home of Wahabbism is Saudi Arabia.
  
  So you have to wonder, don’t you, why the people who decry Islam in general don’t specifically focus their rage upon the specific target that is the demonstrable root cause, and demand that Western govts take specific action specifically against that specific branch. But they never do. Perhaps they’re waiting for the media to explain it all to them before they “believe it.”
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:40am
  - Gabby
    
    Wahabbists are appreciated for their efforts by your infernal overlord, I believe.
    
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    February 25, 2017 2:17pm
  - CharlieBrown
    
    Iran isn’t run by followers of Wahhabi and i think most good people would despise the laws of that regime. And is it only followers of Wahhabi that thinks apostasy should be illegal?
    
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    February 25, 2017 4:48pm
    - reid3
      
      Most Western people would Charlie but most Western people are gullible idiots who are fooled 24/7/365 by the media: WMD in Iraq, Wussia is a big bad meanie, so is Iran, roar the vile media, and the Western sheeple roar and roar and roar their idiotic assent, like the utter dumbfucks in the political sense that almost all of them actually truly are.
      
      How come for instance some of the Western sheeple see straight through for instance Killary but they fail to see straight through the exact same propaganda when it comes to say Wussia, China, or anything else?
      
      How come they’re all such fucking morons they don’t get if it’s happening there with Killlary, then maybe just maybe, it’s also happening in those other areas, too.
      
      WTF is wrong with them?
      
      Are they stoopid, or are they believing that which equates to their predetermined belief systems – some propaganda is good and other propaganda isn’t propaganda at all, because its “true.”
      
      You might want to think about that, Charlie.
      
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      February 25, 2017 6:31pm
      - reid3
        
        The key BTW is to be aware of both sides of the story, before you listen to whatever it is the media say, on anything.
        
        In other words, do your independent research on your own, independent of anything else, then watch what the MSM spray. That’s when you really see it.
        
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        February 25, 2017 6:38pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        So here you are again using the term altrighter on Kiwiblog. As you have already written that I am on the alt-right bandwagon and you have failed to correct/apologise for using this disgusting appellation please identify and provide support for which of these categories I fall into.
        
        alt-right beliefs have been described as white supremacist, frequently overlapping with antisemitism and Neo-Nazism, nativism and Islamophobia, antifeminism and homophobia,white nationalist, right-wing populism,] and the neoreactionary movement. The concept has further been associated with multiple groups from American nationalists, neo-monarchists, men’s rights advocates, and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.
        – alt-right Wikipedia
        
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        February 25, 2017 7:04pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Reid
        
        did a posting from stephieboy just disappear?
        
        I thought he wrote a posting addressed to Reid and other alt-righters….
        where did it go?
        
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        February 25, 2017 7:22pm
- kowtow
  
  Was it wrong to deport overstayers or should we just allow everyone to break the law ? Or only the laws we don’t happen to agree with.
  
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  February 25, 2017 11:33am
  - Happychappy
    
    No it was not wrong to deport over stayers but it was wrong to tarnish others that were here legally with the same brush. Then point I was making was like all race’s there is good and bad and some Muslims deserve better.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:56am
    - PhilBest
      
      I have noticed a couple of occurrences in NZ recently where the Muslims speaking out about how peaceable they are, are “Ahmadiyya Muslims”. Look into this a bit more, and you will see they are regarded as apostates by pretty much all the rest of Islam. Their peaceableness is based on their belief that the 5th Imam came a century ago, therefore a promised peaceable period has begun; but the rest of Islam does not share their belief in the guy they say it was.
      
      It is like saying Rastafarians represent Christianity, when 99.9% of Christians do not believe Ras Tafari was the Second Coming.
      
      What I want to ask these Ahmadiyya Muslims, is why they seem to be providing cover for the bulk of Muslims, from whom they themselves are under threat of violence for their apostasy? Or is it NZ MSM spin that is responsible?
      
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      February 25, 2017 1:02pm
      - Happychappy
        
        There is a lot of Maori that want to run and hide from what their children have become and why they want to divide NZ. In the 1950s to the late 70s all Maori elders not just the elite were held in high respect and always called Mister and that is the way most children were educated by their parents in them days, now no one get respect because of what the elite have done with the money they have received with none of it going to the place that is needed.
        
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        February 25, 2017 2:10pm
- Gabby
  
  How did they miss you during the dawn raids chappy? You not so grossly obese in those days?
  
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  February 25, 2017 2:18pm
cha

I suppose clueless deplorables could be excused, but paying attendees trolled with a Russian flag, priceless.

People attending the Conservative Political Action Conference could be seen waving small Russian flags emblazoned with the word “Trump” during President Trump’s speech.

It appeared to be a prank. CPAC workers quickly began to collect the flags after they were being waved.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/320997-cpac-attendees-seen-waiving-russian-flags
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February 25, 2017 10:46am
AgentBallSack

Lets pimp the poor and attack the Government, Sue Moroney edition #53,455

Long suffering taxpayer pays 25 THOUSAND dollars for 4 months rent for ferals. Thats 75 THOUSAND dollars a year! Of course Moroney thinks we’re not doing enough.

Premium motel rates ‘danger money’ for emergency housing risk

Waikato Motel Association president and owner of the Ulster Lodge in Hamilton Narinder Sagoo said his members are stuck in the middle, wanting to help but with businesses to run.

Premium rates for emergency housing is “almost like danger money”. Some motel rooms have been trashed, leaving motel owners with huge repair bills.

“It’s like a rock and a hard place. They want to continue their business in a good fashion but they are also taking on board a significant risk and this is where the gaps between Winz and business need to be strengthened,” Sagoo said.

Some people are in dire straits, he said. Others have social issues. There is drug use and partying and businesses are ill equipped to manage.

“If you have someone who is trying to have a party and they don’t understand why they are not allowed to and all of your business customers walk out, there are cross purposes.
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February 25, 2017 10:48am
- Gabby
  
  Mister Sagoo can see the harm. He’s not blind. Maybe he should decline the custom.
  
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  February 25, 2017 2:14pm
Chuck Bird

Is a black Muslim the answer? I think not.

Is Keith Ellison the man who can stop US President Donald Trump?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11807418
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February 25, 2017 11:06am
- itstricky
  
  Is a black Muslim the answer?
  
  Weird, because I thought it was all about the person’s skills, not whether they were black, and not whether they were Muslim. But that seems to be all you can see.
  
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  February 25, 2017 11:42am
  - reid3
    
    Whereas all lefties seem to be able to see is that if he’s white and he’s a man, therefore he’s evil, and anything else has to be good, no matter how bad or incompetent the person who is their selected alternate actually happens to be.
    
    It’s called identity politics tricky. It’s what you lefties do, and you do that and nothing but. Manban quota is just a small example.
    
    Meritocracy is the way to go and conservatives do that, it’s just that white men happen to be so fucking good at nearly everything you lefties get all confused and think we’re cheating.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:50am
    - PhilBest
      
      “…if he’s white and he’s a man, therefore he’s evil, and anything else has to be good…”
      
      Let me add to that:
      
      …if he’s white and he’s a man, therefore he’s evil, and if he is a Christian Fundamentalist, he is the worst of the worst, somehow even worse than the bulk of white males, who are already by definition, “Nazis”.
      
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      February 25, 2017 1:07pm
      - itstricky
        
        Another weird thing. You also wax lyrical on about the capability of the left to resort to identity politics whilst Chuck gets five up ticks for simply saying “Brown” and “Muslim”.
        
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        February 25, 2017 1:19pm
    - itstricky
      
      Whereas all lefties seem to be able to see is that if he’s white and he’s a man
      
      If you could ever point to a post where I had said “Is a white man the answer?” then I would absolutely give you that.
      
      But I haven’t. The sum total of that sentence is a gross exaggeration about a stereotype that you’ve used the fence painting brush to apply to everyone that doesn’t agree with you.
      
      It’s what you lefties do
      
      Aha, the old two-wrongs-make-a-right. Never fails.
      
      and you do that and nothing but
      
      That’s weird, because I haven’t ever said “Is a white man the answer?“.
      
      And supposedly that’s all I do?
      
      PS. Talking about identity, why the new handle?
      
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      February 25, 2017 1:17pm
      - reid3
        
        The sum total of that sentence is a gross exaggeration about a stereotype that you’ve used the fence painting brush to apply to everyone that doesn’t agree with you.
        
        So the left doesn’t practice identity politics? Is that what you’re saying? Otherwise pray explicate because I just don’t understand why whether or not you said “Is a white man the answer” is germane, not even with my white manliness with all that experience of building the Western civilisation surging through my very DNA.
        
        On the handle it’s a long and dull story I don’t feel like typing right now, but maybe I will sometime, on a winter’s morn.
        
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        February 25, 2017 6:51pm
      - itstricky
        
        So the left doesn’t practice identity politics? Is that what you’re saying?
        
        Nope, I’m saying that isolated individual people all over the spectrum do all sorts of things, but you can’t apply the one as a broad brush to all.
        
        Not only is it what you have done, it is also is what Chuck has implied (what, he’s Muslim? You know what THEY’RE like; what he’s black? You know what THEY’RE like)
        
        And of course my previous lack of identity comment is relevant – you class me a leftie and apparently you know what THEY’RE like. Except me. Oh, that’s weird, there’s at least one exception. How could that be?
        
        I’m sure your handle has a very simple explantation.
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:09pm
  - fernglas
    
    The shame is that in the US, supposedly the greatest meritocracy ever, the first thing many see is skin colour, hotly followed by adherence to Christianity, and that’s on all sides of the racial divide.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:54am
    - reid3
      
      The entire meritocratic approach which built Western civilisation has been degraded by political correctness at the heart of which is identity politics. That’s why every single Western society is so fucked up and getting worse by the year, as more and more identity politics are foisted on us.
      
      I think we should take this to a root thread, we’re rapidly going to run out of room here. First one with another response, suggest put it on the root.
      
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      February 25, 2017 12:28pm
      - PhilBest
        
        I would like to see a thread devoted to the item in the Weekend Herald, about an experiment that proved Aussies are “racist” because of their reactions to a woman in full burkha.
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11806949
        
        FFS. A religion and its practices are nothing to do with RACE. When are the dumb lefties going to get a brain about this?
        
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        February 25, 2017 1:09pm
      - Gabby
        
        I think it’s the devil’s work, and as a faithful minion of the horned one you have roots on the brain.
        
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        February 25, 2017 1:30pm
    - sam green
      
      It’s all mythocracy – meritocracy is a pipe dream and never has existed. The world is basically a big old Game of Thrones. Heaven help those new ‘earth like’ planets now that we’ve got our eyes on them.
      
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      February 25, 2017 1:46pm
      - reid3
        
        Yeah I know sam, but we weren’t talking about reality, we were talking about what politics pretends is real and as you know, they’re two completely different things.
        
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        February 25, 2017 6:53pm
  - Happychappy
    
    But that was part of peoples reasoning for immigrating from Britain in the 196os/70s there thought were they were being over run by black skinned people.
    
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    February 25, 2017 12:07pm
    - PhilBest
      
      Ironically many of those black skinned people today vote UKIP, because they don’t want Britain changed from the kind of country it was, that was the reason they came in the first place. This is all about culture and PC now, not skin colour.
      
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      February 25, 2017 1:11pm
Happychappy

Sue Moroney doesn’t care about other people property and she sure as hell doesn’t advocate for the people of NZ. This obese over weight mouth piece has couple of extra house in her estate folder let her put them up as see if she see’s the funny side in tenants who cares less attitude.
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February 25, 2017 11:13am
- Gabby
  
  No fattychappy was evicted from his straining strides in Sue’s real estate rampage, one trusts.
  
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  February 25, 2017 1:27pm
AgentBallSack

MSM Meltdown in all it’s glorious hues

True to form the comment section is totally anti President Trump (snicker)

Several major US news outlets found themselves blocked from attending a White House briefing with press secretary Sean Spicer.

The New York Times, CNN, the Los Angeles Times and Politico were among the news organisations prevented from attending on Friday, according to posts by reporters from those outlets on social media, as were several foreign news organisations.

The move is the latest sign of worsening relations between the Trump administration and the media attempting to cover it.

AP and Time declined to take part. The White House was said to have invited press organisations to the event.
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February 25, 2017 12:07pm
Hugh Pavletich

Christchurch Mayor Lianne Dalziel out of her depth …

(Christchurch) Rates hike proposed despite less-than-expected spending on capital projects | Stuff.co.nz

http://i.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/89762643/rates-hike-proposed-despite-lessthanexpected-spending-on-capital-projects

… Pavletich comment on thread … in moderation …

At 5.5% annually, that means Rates double every 12.7 years.

The Christchurch Council has an appalling reputation.

In a MBIE Regional Report last November, over the past decade, compound employment growth for Christchurch has been 0.3%, Waimak 5.3% and Selwyn 9.8% with the national average 1.4%. So Christchurch has been about a quarter the national average with Waimak about 4 times and Selwyn a whopping 7 times ! … see attached …

Why are Mayor Lianne Dalziel and her Council failing in their duty to reverse this serious reputational problem ?

Yardley slams (Christchurch) fire response … Kiwiblog

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/02/yardley_slams_fire_response.html

Hugh Pavletich ‘Bill English is wrong on housing and he knows it’ … Chris Lynch Newstalk ZB Christchurch

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/christchurch/canterbury-mornings/audio/hugh-pavletich-bill-english-is-wrong-on-housing-and-he-knows-it/
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February 25, 2017 12:21pm
AgentBallSack

One for stephie. He wants this here. Caution graphic content and disturbing themes..

ISIS execute a 15-year-old boy by beheading after he is caught listening to western music in Iraq

A teenage boy has been beheaded by ISIS for simply listening to Western music.
Ayham Hussein, 15, was arrested by militants after allegedly being caught enjoying pop tunes on a portable CD player in the group’s Iraqi capital Mosul.
He was dragged before a Islamist kangaroo court which sentenced him death in a public execution.
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February 25, 2017 12:42pm
- Fletch
  
  Was it Nickelback? (sorry, couldn’t resist…)
  
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  February 25, 2017 2:44pm
- stephieboy
  
  ABS , thats very sad but the kind of barbaric behaviour we have come to expect from ISIS. Fortunately for us not all Muslims are into this kind of thing and notably in our country too.
  
  Its similar to equating German Catholics and Protestants with the SS’s barbaric behaviour in the East .
  
  Yes antisemitism does exist amongst some Muslims but also among many Trump supporters as the President has , at last,,reminded them,
  
  http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-antisemitism-idUSKBN1601QY
  
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  February 25, 2017 6:13pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Good article stephie, thanks.
    
    He was speaking at the end of a tour of the National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington, which Trump said showed “why we have to fight bigotry, intolerance and hatred in all of its very ugly forms.”
    
    The comments marked a change for Trump, who had not explicitly and publicly condemned the threats against Jews when asked last week. Instead, he spoke more generally about his hopes of making the nation less “divided.”
    
    The president reacted with anger at a news conference last week when a journalist from a Jewish magazine asked how his government planned to “take care” of a rise in threats.
    
    Trump berated the reporter for asking a “very insulting” question, appearing to believe the reporter was accusing him of being anti-Semitic.
    
    “Number one, I am the least anti-Semitic person that you’ve ever seen in your entire life,” the president said, adding that he was also the least racist person. Trump has often noted that one of his daughters is a convert to Judaism, he has Jewish grandchildren and he employs many Jews in his business.
    
    I note he instantly condemns the violence, compared with Obama who has had nothing to say about Black on Black violence, ever.
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:02pm
AgentBallSack

Stephieboy doesn’t see a problem with this, he started a go fund me to get her job back.

Texas preschool teacher fired over ‘Kill some Jews’ tweet

A Texas preschool teacher is out of a job after several anti-Semitic online posts, including a tweet encouraging a friend to “kill some Jews,” came to light.
Nancy Salem was fired from The Children’s Courtyard in Arlington after administrators were alerted to her anti-Semitic behavior online, the Dallas Morning News reported.
“Have a safe trip Lulu. I love you baby girl! See you in 3 weeks! Kiss the Palestine ground for me and kill some jews! <3 #IMissYouAlready,” she reportedly wrote in 2013.
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February 25, 2017 12:47pm
- Gabby
  
  Prolly a setheffrikkin.
  
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  February 25, 2017 2:08pm
AgentBallSack

More than 300 scientists have urged President Trump to withdraw from the U.N.’s climate change agency, warning that its push to curtail carbon dioxide threatens to exacerbate poverty without improving the environment.
In a Thursday letter to the president, MIT professor emeritus Richard Lindzen called on the United States and other nations to “change course on an outdated international agreement that targets minor greenhouse gases,” starting with carbon dioxide.
“Since 2009, the US and other governments have undertaken actions with respect to global climate that are not scientifically justified and that already have, and will continue to cause serious social and economic harm — with no environmental benefits,” said Mr. Lindzen, a prominent atmospheric physicist.
Signers of the attached petition include the U.S. and international atmospheric scientists, meteorologists, physicists, professors and others taking issue with the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change [UNFCCC], which was formed in 1992 to combat “dangerous” climate change.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/23/hundreds-scientists-urge-trump-withdraw-un-climate/
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February 25, 2017 12:56pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Challenging the catastrophic climate change narrative, Mr. Lindzen describes carbon dioxide as “plant food, not poison.”
  “Restricting access to fossil fuels has very negative effects upon the wellbeing of people around the world,” he says in his letter.
  “It condemns over 4 billion people in still underdeveloped countries to continued poverty.”
  
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  February 25, 2017 12:58pm
- PhilBest
  
  I am really enjoying James Delingpole’s takes on this beautiful trend…
  
  For example, his latest:
  
  NASA to Stop Shilling for Big Green, Restart Exploring Space…
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/22/delingpole-nasa-lose-role-green-propagandist-shock/
  
  EDIT: And:
  
  Trump’s Climate Plans Just Made the Media’s Heads Explode
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/31/delingpole-trumps-climate-plans-made-medias-heads-explode/
  
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  February 25, 2017 1:14pm
  - Gabby
    
    Smokingpole’s a vindictive little shit isn’t he.
    
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    February 25, 2017 2:05pm
  - realityczech
    
    NASA simply follows the money. Same as the rest of the warmist industry. Pay them to do real science and they will.
    
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    February 25, 2017 2:13pm
- stephieboy
  
  ABS,
  
  “Nobel Laureates Issue A Call To Action On Climate Change”
  
  “At the 65th annual edition of the Lindau Nobel Laureates Meetings, held from June 28-July 3 in Lindau, Germany, on the shores of Lake Constance, 65 laureates gathered with 650 young scientists from 88 countries for a week of lectures and discussion that included several calls to action…
  
  But most prominent—and formal—was raised on the final day of the conference, held on nearby Mainau Island: a call to address climate change. 2011 Physics laureate Brian Schmidt introduced the Mainau Declaration 2015 on Climate Change, signed by 36 Nobel laureates, to the hundreds of laureates, scientists and other attendees. “Nearly 60 years ago, here on Mainau, a similar gathering of Nobel Laureates in science issued a declaration of the dangers inherent in the newly found technology of nuclear weapons—a technology derived from advances in basic science,” he said. “We believe that our world today faces another threat of comparable magnitude.”
  While Schmidt acknowledged that there were laureates who did not want to publicly express an opinion, he stated that “those of us who sign do so because we feel we have a moral-bound duty as a scientist on an issue that has such lasting consequences…We say this not as experts in the field of climate change, but rather as a diverse group of scientists who have a deep respect for and understanding of the integrity of the scientific process…..”
  
  http://time.com/3945630/lindau-nobel-laureates-meetings/
  
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  February 25, 2017 1:46pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Did that they include Nobel Prize winner Dr Mann too?- snigger
    #FakeandaFraud
    
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    February 25, 2017 1:51pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All On Red , the scurrilous claims against Michael; Flynn by climate denier are rebutted here s ,
      
      https://www.desmog.uk/2015/06/24/mark-steyn-s-newest-attack-michael-mann-and-hockey-stick
      
      However you can contine to put you child like trust in this leading climate denier fraud and quack ,
      
      http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2016/07/christopher-monckton-and-fraud-fact.html
      
      Heh, heh ,heh…
      
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      February 25, 2017 1:59pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Michael Flynn was going to be NSA advisor. I’m referring to the liar Michael Mann who the COURT made retract his claim of having a Nobel Prize.
        Oh and Miriam from Hotwhopper is a serial liar.
        And what’s that idiot Monckton got to do with this?
        Fuck you are sooooo thick
        
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        February 25, 2017 2:05pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        You clearly know nothing about the Michael Mann-Mark Steyn defamation claim.
        Michael Mann has been doing all he can to keep his claim out of the courts.
        
        But Mark Steyn has made sure the case is to proceed.
        Judith Curry has recently filed an amicus curiae brief for him.
        Read all about it
        http://www.steynonline.com/section/71/defend-free-speech
        
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        February 25, 2017 3:24pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red and Maggy Wassilieff, grow up . It was a simple mistake on my part .
        
        It should of course be Michael Mann. The claims against him according my link l are without substance .
        
        As for Lord Monckton his quackery is a fact and stands.
        
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        February 25, 2017 6:20pm
jonar

President Snowflake just banned the media that he disagrees with…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-house-blocks-news-outlets-from-media-briefing-a7598641.html
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February 25, 2017 1:38pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Snowflake Journalists more like
  #Fake News
  ‘White House Deputy Comms. Dir. Raj Shah denies reports of a gaggle block against CNN, NYT, Politico and others:’
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/02/24/fake-news-media-outrage-white-house-exclusion/
  
  Note this:’However, as the New York Times itself reported in 2015, President Barack Obama met privately with liberal reporters and columnists frequently throughout his tenure in office — “more than a dozen” times. And although he occasionally invited conservative columnists, “Liberal-leaning columnists from newspapers tend to dominate at Mr. Obama’s secret sessions.”
  
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  February 25, 2017 1:47pm
  - stephieboy
    
    All on Red , from the link :
    
    “Nothing like this has ever happened at the White House in our long history of covering multiple administrations of different parties,” Dean Baquet, executive editor of The New York Times, said in a statement.
    
    “We strongly protest the exclusion of The New York Times and the other news organizations. Free media access to a transparent government is obviously of crucial national interest.”
    
    BuzzFeed’s editor-in-chief, Ben Smith, also responded to his outlet being barred from the briefing: “While we strongly object to the White House’s apparent attempt to punish news outlets whose coverage it does not like, we won’t let these latest antics distract us from the work of continuing to cover this administration fairly and aggressively.”
    
    And the BBC’s Washington bureau chief, Paul Danahar, said: “We understand there may be occasions when, due to space or circumstances, the White House restricts press events to the established pool.
    
    “However, what happened today did not fit into that pattern. On this occasion selected media were allowed to attend the briefing and the selected media, including the BBC, were not.
    
    “The BBC has a representative at every daily White House briefing so we are not clear why we were barred from today’s. We have sought clarification from the White House Press team. Out reporting will remain fair and impartial regardless.”
    
    Several media outlets including the Associated Press and TIME Magazine declined to attend the briefing to boycott the President’s decision.
    
    A Wall Street Journal reporter attended the meeting without being aware of the circumstances. The publication later promised to boycott similar press briefings.
    
    “The Wall Street Journal strongly objects to the White House’s decision to bar certain media outlets from today’s gaggle,” a spokesperson with the newspaper said in a statement. “Had we known at the time, we would not have participated and we will not participate in such rest
    
    Fox News anchor Bret Baier discouraged conservative news outlets who celebrated the gaggle, citing organisations who defended his network when former President Obama tried to freeze out Fox News in 2009.
    
    “Some at CNN and New York Times stood with Fox News when the Obama admin attacked us and tried to exclude us,” he wrote on Twitter, “a White House gaggle should be open to all credentialed orgs.”
    
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    February 25, 2017 1:52pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Yet the NYT in their own articles previously have admitted it has.
      Did you see this too you fuckwit?
      ‘Note this:’However, as the New York Times itself reported in 2015, President Barack Obama met privately with liberal reporters and columnists frequently throughout his tenure in office — “more than a dozen” times. And although he occasionally invited conservative columnists, “Liberal-leaning columnists from newspapers tend to dominate at Mr. Obama’s secret sessions.”
      
      Which means Dean Baquet from the NYT is a liar- and you are stupid.
      Also, it has been denied by the Whitehouse as having occurred.
      So #FakeNews- only to be believed by morons…
      
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      February 25, 2017 1:57pm
      - Gabby
        
        Fewer than twice a year all turd? Sounds like fuckall, fuckwit.
        
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        February 25, 2017 2:02pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Oh look Gobbling Gabby
        Blow me
        
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        February 25, 2017 2:07pm
      - jonar
        
        Not so Red, there’s a difference between the White House media briefings and “off the record” meetings.
        
        https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/us/politics/calculated-candor-inside-obamas-off-the-record-briefings.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
        
        The current (Obama) White House is not unique in using secret presidential face time to try to influence coverage. Previous presidents of both parties regularly invited columnists to the White House for off-the-record sessions.
        
        It’s Breitbart that’s being dishonest here.
        
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        February 25, 2017 2:09pm
  - Gabby
    
    Frequently? You moron, more often than you shag is not necessarily frequent.
    
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    February 25, 2017 2:04pm
    - Gabby
      
      All turd’s sexual needs are not being met. The lads he importunes sense his inner shittiness and steer well clear. Fucktard.
      
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      February 25, 2017 2:10pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Calling someone a moron is a Struke offence. Strike 6 for you means two months off- hahahahaha
      
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      February 25, 2017 2:12pm
      - Gabby
        
        Calling someone a fuckwit is a-ok in allturdland heh heh heh. Cuck soccer.
        
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        February 25, 2017 4:13pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Imagine being that much of a retard, you spend your days on a centrist right blog abusing people in a putrid juvenile fashion. Any fence sitter reading gobshites ramblings would instantly move and vote Right.
        
        We’re not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but we don’t make our whole persona about being a 13 year old with a penis fantasy suffering a terminal case tourettes.
        
        For all your work you do for the right wing cause, I thank you Gobby
        
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        February 25, 2017 6:25pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red ,” Struke ” ??
        
        Another neologism of yours ?
        
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        February 25, 2017 6:27pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Red , you of course know a lot about various kinds of abuse , name calling and even stalking on KB ?
        
        Now don;t you !
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:24pm
- realityczech
  
  jonar, they are not media. They are propaganda outlets. Real media have great access to Trump.
  
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  February 25, 2017 2:10pm
  - Gabby
    
    Chump’ll be the judge of that eh czitstain.
    
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    February 25, 2017 2:12pm
  - sam green
    
    “Real media” being right wing propaganda that you agree with.
    
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    February 25, 2017 3:09pm
stephieboy

PhilBest , reopen uneeconomic coal mines and fire up and build new coal fired power stations ?

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads/2010/01/4024864398_f86182024c_o.jpg
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February 25, 2017 1:38pm
fernglas

Is this terrorism, or just a deranged individual?

“Adam Purinton, 51, was charged in Johnson County, Kansas, with one count of premeditated first degree murder and two counts of attempted premeditated first degree murder, Johnson County District Attorney Stephen Howe told a news conference.

Purinton is accused of shooting and killing Srinivas Kuchibhotla, 32, and wounding Alok Madasani, also 32, in the Austins Bar and Grill in Olathe, Kansas, on Wednesday evening, according to a statement from the Olathe Police Department.

At least one bystander told the Kansas City Star that the man shouted “get out of my country” before shooting the Indian men. He is also accused of wounding American Ian Grillot, 24, who was shot when he tried to intervene, the Kansas City Star reported.”
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February 25, 2017 1:58pm
- Gabby
  
  It doesn’t sound like one of those ‘I like you very much’ crimes.
  
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  February 25, 2017 4:09pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Deranged individual.
  The car bomb that killed 50 people in Iraq yesterday and is reported by Stuff in a matter of fact way is not called out as terrorism, despite being claimed by ISIS.
  
  I wonder why?
  
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  February 25, 2017 4:24pm
  - stephieboy
    
    ABS, this is the latest bomb attack I could come up with 17/02/17. ISIS has claimed responsibility .What would you really like the report to say as it seems quite obvious ,
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/16/baghdad-car-bomb-kills-dozens-in-third-such-attack-in-three-days
    
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    February 25, 2017 6:01pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Thanks stephie, 3 in 3 days – is that peculiar? Or normal?
      
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      February 25, 2017 6:37pm
      - stephieboy
        
        ABS, I understand there is a civil war going on in Iraq .
        
        Yet you will be pleased to know that the US backed Iraqi , Kurd and Shia forces are making good headway against ISIS’strong hold of Mosul,
        
        http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37702442
        
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        February 25, 2017 7:04pm
  - Gabby
    
    Cos Chump has ended tourism, so there can’t be any.
    
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    February 25, 2017 6:04pm
Stars And Stripes

Prisoners to earn jail time reduction under Act Party policy.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11807537.
“Prisoners would have their time in jail slashed if they complete literacy, numeracy and driver licensing courses, under new Act Party policy.
Former Labour president Mike Williams, now with the Howard League for Penal Reform, strongly backs the policy and said it could cut reoffending by as much as 50 per cent”.

Really!!!.
I would like to see how he arrived at that nice round figure or did he just pull it out of his arse because it sounded dramatic.
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February 25, 2017 2:44pm
- mandk
  
  It’s not that implausible. Could be worth a trial.
  
  If you can’t read, you can’t write and you can’t drive, you have no chance of employment when you come out of prison.
  
  You really need to offer ex-prisoners some alternative to being on a benefit forever (or going back to offending).
  
  Which alternative do you prefer?
  
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  February 25, 2017 3:07pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    You honestly believe 50% or 1 in 2 is plausible?.
    Sorry I think it is nonsense especially when most overseas countries who have trialled this type of thing achieve reduction rates in the 20-25% range.
    
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    February 25, 2017 3:15pm
    - fernglas
      
      20-25% works for me.
      
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      February 25, 2017 4:35pm
- reid3
  
  Yeah it sounds implausible. Correlation is not cause. Sure, if they had literacy in the first place they prob wouldn’t be inside but once you’ve already become a thug and lets face it to clock up enough convictions to actually end up inside these days means you’ve done a lot along the thuggery line to get there, then once you can read all you’re going to be is become an educated thug.
  
  Maybe what we need to do is tell them they’re not going to ever get out unless and until they achieve certain literacy standards. And if that means life inside well, that’s up to them, isn’t it.
  
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  February 25, 2017 3:16pm
- Jack5
  
  Why not? Going to prison now looks to be a viable way to get a university education if you are a poor young person from a depressed region or poor suburb.
  
  Reward poor choices, could be a motto for this type of programme.
  
  Another reason not to give a party vote to ACT.
  
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  February 25, 2017 4:28pm
  - mandk
    
    Apart from watching them cycle in and out of prison and back again, what do you propose to do with prisoners who can’t read, write, do maths, or even drive?
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:19pm
- calendar girl
  
  S&S, Williams didn’t use a precise figure, he said “…. it could cut reoffending by as much as 50 per cent”.
  
  And if 50% isn’t achieved, it could still be a very worthwhile initiative if society is genuine in its desire for rehabilitation of prisoners where that is achievable. As with fernglas at 4:35pm, “20-25% works for me”.
  
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  February 25, 2017 5:32pm
- jonar
  
  Even ACT is shifting left.
  
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  February 25, 2017 6:47pm
Swifty

A question please to those with a greater knowledge of election law than myself.

Today is the day of the Mt Albert by-election and I’ve just seen an opposition MP going door to door, down Alberton Ave, and emblazoned with the rosette of his party.

Is this kosher? I thought that on an election day all ‘advertising’ was not allowed and I would have thought a rosette would meet that criteria. Have I got this wrong?
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February 25, 2017 3:03pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  A party rosette is acceptable (as long as it doesn’t carry the candidate’s name)
  http://www.elections.org.nz/events/2014-general-election/2014-parties-candidates-and-third-parties/election-day-rules-candidat-0
  
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  February 25, 2017 3:08pm
  - Swifty
    
    Many thanks Maggy.
    
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    February 25, 2017 3:10pm
    - sam green
      
      She knows her rosettes.
      
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      February 25, 2017 3:14pm
- Gabby
  
  Unless it’s made of pork it’s prolly kosher.
  Would a candidate’s tie be considered an advertisement? How about his/her face?
  
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  February 25, 2017 3:56pm
reid3

“You are not in control” (reminds me of cfl lightbulbs, developed to save the terrible expense of disposing of mercury by providing a method of having it deposited in landfills, one improperly disposed of lightbulb at a time, where it will poison the water supply forever):

“. . . What is it about the car-dependent living arrangement, and the landscape it enables, that the technosphere finds to be efficient? The surprising answer is that the technosphere strives to optimize the burning of gasoline; everything else is just a byproduct of this optimization.

It turns out that the fact that so many people are forced to own a car has nothing to do with transportation and everything to do with petroleum chemistry. About half of what can be usefully extracted from a barrel of crude oil is in the form of gasoline. It is possible to boost the fraction of other, more useful products, such as kerosene, diesel fuel, jet fuel and heating oil, but not by much and at a cost of reduced net energy. But gasoline is not very useful at all. It is volatile (quite a lot of it evaporates, especially in the summer); it is chemically unstable and doesn’t keep for long; it is toxic and carcinogenic. It has a rather low flash point, limiting the compression ratio that can be achieved by gasoline-fueled engines, making them thermodynamically less efficient. It is useless for large engines, and is basically a small-engine fuel. Gasoline-powered engines don’t last very long because gasoline-air mixture is detonated (using an electric spark) rather than burned, and the shock waves from the detonations cause components to wear out quickly. They have few industrial uses; all of the serious transportation infrastructure, including locomotives, ships, jet aircraft, tractor-trailers, construction equipment and electrical generators run on petroleum distillates such as kerosene, jet fuel, diesel oil and bunker fuel.

If it weren’t for widespread private car ownership, gasoline would have to be flared off at refineries, at a loss. In turn, the cost of petroleum distillates—which are all of the industrial fuels—would double, and this would curtail the technosphere’s global expansion by making long-distance freight much more expensive. The technosphere’s goal, then, is to make us pay for the gasoline by forcing us to drive. To this end, the landscape is structured in a way that makes driving necessary. The fact that to get from a Motel 8 on one side of the road to the McDonalds on the other requires you to drive two miles, navigate a cloverleaf, and drive two miles back is not a bug; it’s a feature. When James Kunstler calls suburban sprawl “the greatest misallocation of resources in human history” he is only partly right. It is also the greatest optimization in exploiting every part of the crude oil barrel in the history of the technosphere.”

Did you know BTW if you break a cfl lightbulb you need to leave the room for 15 mins and ventilate so the mercury vapour doesn’t get you? And never cut yourself on the glass, you’re likely to get a raging infection. Again, because of the mercury in it. Lefties never told you that, did they. Most of them probably don’t even know. Aren’t lefties stooooooooooooopid.

And isn’t it evil, they’re phasing out the manufacture of the good old reliable, environmentally friendly carbon filament variety in favour of the cfl’s, giving you absolutely no choice in the matter.

http://xymphora.blogspot.co.nz/2017/02/an-angel-on-one-shoulder.html
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February 25, 2017 3:40pm
- Gabby
  
  Sounds devilishly cunning. Your master’s a clever fellow to be sure.
  
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  February 25, 2017 4:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I do hope not a cent of taxpayers’ money goes toward a new cathedral in Christchurch.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/89760490/churchs-320m-empire-cannot-be-used-for-christ-church-cathedral-restoration
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February 25, 2017 4:44pm
- PhilBest
  
  The religions that build cathedrals have millions of followers worldwide who could surely crowdfund them, if they were prepared to put their money where their faith allegedly is.
  
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  February 25, 2017 5:11pm
  - Gabby
    
    They sort of already have crowdfunded them.
    
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    February 25, 2017 5:51pm
    - nasska
      
      Good! If they recrowdfund this temple they’re doubly certain of a place in Heaven. I’m fairly sure that even the terminally Godaddled realise that they can’t take their ill gotten gains with them when they go.
      
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      February 25, 2017 6:04pm
- Jack5
  
  Perhaps they could sell bits of wreckage as lucky relics.
  
  I don’t think there were any fatalities when the cathedral began to tumble down on staff and visitors. People working in the archives below even emerged safely.
  
  But should it be rebuilt? I think the cathedral is an important part of Canterbury history and should be reconstructed, but not necessarily into a grandiose, expensive edifice. Bells would be good, though.
  
  One of the most touching sites in Berlin decades ago used to be the ruins of the Gedächtniskirche, the Protestant church whose skeleton survived the bombing. The tower from this moving symbol has been retained as a dramatic part of the new church.
  
  Perhaps the standing ruin of the old Cathedral could do the same for Christchurch as part of a new building.
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:27pm
  - realityczech
    
    Are you going to pay for it ?
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:30pm
    - Jack5
      
      Realityczech, better idea. I think convicts from Paparua Prison could usefully be put on salvaging and rebuilding the cathedral.
      
      Better than sitting in their cells idling, or doing weight training in the yard while taxpayers house and feed them.
      
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      February 25, 2017 9:47pm
Nostradamus

Public announcement:

Penny would like to invite all Kiwibloggers to join her at Bright HQ to celebrate a historic result in the Mt Albert by-election. One small thing to note: you’ll need to bring your own popcorn and water bottles.
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February 25, 2017 7:21pm
- nasska
  
  I suspect that she’ll toss the receipts for that candidacy into the “No Refund Due” shoebox to join the others. 🙂
  
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  February 25, 2017 7:53pm
Jack5

A Swedish journalist on Sweden’s immigration mess.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-example-of-how-not-to-handle-immigration/
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February 25, 2017 7:25pm
- reid3
  
  Jack that’s very sad.
  
  A Swedish journo asking why its all gone wrong points not to the politicians who let them all in but to the lack of integration services which presumably in his fevered imagination are the root cause of the whole affair. And presumably he thinks that had they been there in adequate proportion no matter what it cost Swedes to accommodate complete and total rude and belligerant strangers who’d never paid a cent of Swedish tax in their entire lives and most of them never will, then none of this would have happened.
  
  WAKE THE FUCK UP MAN is all one can say to such a fool.
  
  People who don’t already know precisely who has done precisely what and precisely why to bring this all about right across Western Europe from the 60’s on which is when the preparatory social engineering programs began, really should educate themselves. The whole thing has been prepped waiting for the trigger which was Syria, again, generated by precisely the same people.
  
  The reason why people need to educate themselves on this is because its happening here as well.
  
  Here and in Aus, its been a much much more subtle silent coup. Here, as in Aus, we don’t have the same ThinkTank infrastructure to design, monitor and tweak the social engineering. Here, as in Aus, our politicians are, by comparison to the more sophisticated Europeans, rank amateurs in the lying and treason depts, as are the people in the support infrastructures for the program, such as in the intelligence agencies and security agencies, academia and the idiot media.
  
  But like all Western countries both us and Aus are being taken down by the same people who have bought Sweden and the entire Western European continent to the world and the same fate awaits us, eventually.
  
  The Asians and the house prices in Akld are the start. The Indonesians and 100 tramp steamers each loaded with 500 poorly educated, seething, angry Muslims arriving off our coastline, will be the end, because by then, the US as we know it will have long disappeared and who else is there.
  
  The root cause are the people who’ve done Sweden. That’s why you all need to educate yourself.
  
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  February 25, 2017 8:27pm
  - stephieboy
    
    reid , it could be helpful to know that immigrants other than Asians have arrived here including Brits and other favoured ” Europeans ”
    
    Also it is useful to know that the housing shortage has been exasperated by returning kiwis from Austrlia ( lack of work ) and elsswhere.
    
    It is strongly doubtful that poorly educated Muslims or whatever could make it across the Tasman to our coastline in leaky tramp steamers n’t They couldn’t make it to OZ so why do you think they could make it a further c 4000 ks due West ?
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:05pm
    - reid3
      
      I wasn’t advocating exploring who the useful idiots are stephie, I was referring to the people who enable them.
      
      Do you have an insight or two on those?.
      
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      February 25, 2017 11:08pm
stigie

Two hillbillies walk into a restaurant. While having a bite to eat, they talk about their moonshine operation.
Suddenly, a woman at a nearby table, who is eating a sandwich, begins to cough.
After a minute or so, it becomes apparent that she is in real distress. One of the hillbillies looks at her and says, Kin ya swallar?’
The woman shakes her head no. Then he asks, ‘Kin ya breathe?’
The woman begins to turn blue, and shakes her head no.
The hillbilly walks over to the woman, lifts up her dress, yanks down her drawers, and quickly gives her right butt cheek a lick with his tongue.
The woman is so shocked that she has a violent spasm, and the obstruction flies out of her mouth.As she begins to breathe again, the Hillbilly walks slowly back to his table. His partner says, ‘Ya know, I’d heerd of that there ‘Hind Lick Maneuver’ but I never seed nobody done it.
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February 25, 2017 7:26pm
nasska

I read recently about cancer victims who want to have their bodies frozen so they can be brought back to life in the future when there’s hope.

Unfortunately all the places have been taken by Auckland Blues supporters.
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February 25, 2017 7:59pm
AgentBallSack

It’s official.
The teenage girl who works at the chippy is more electable than Andrew Little.
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February 25, 2017 8:49pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Correct Ballsack, and there were 131 lunatics in Mt. Albert who gave their vote to Penny, giving her 1.009% of the total votes cast.
  That was a stunning achievement, and I’m sure she’ll be trumpeting it from the rooftops tomorrow.
  Of course 100% of the lunatic vote is a far greater endorsement than 1.009% of the lefties who actually bothered in the absence of a National candidate.
  And the chippie girl got exactly 10,000 votes. Is that too much of a coincidence or do we need a recount?
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:01pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    It’s all Labour subterfuge. The only way they will ever get elected is to have someone so utterly incapable of leading the country as Andrew Little is. then when he loses they will knife him and Jacinda will look electable in contrast.
    
    Kiwis will fall for it.
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:13pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Two Jewish brothers abused and attacked in a Paris street

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39078952
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February 25, 2017 8:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

South Africans protesting against Somali immigration
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/24/world/south-africa-anti-immigrant-protests/index.html
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February 25, 2017 9:03pm
- stephieboy
  
  Maggy Wassilieff, you also Somali phobic ?
  
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  February 25, 2017 9:36pm
  - Jack5
    
    Another roster change at the Stephieboys Islamic trolling syndicate.
    
    Stephie Y, who knows more about punctuation, especially commas, has taken over.
    
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    February 25, 2017 9:55pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yes, it is interesting that one stephieboy from another often has no recall on their previous postings.
      
      They seem to need frequent reminders about material that has been previously canvassed.
      Perhaps it is a genuine cognition disability, but much more likely to be different posters who can’t keep abreast of each others’ postings and associated responses.
      
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      February 25, 2017 11:03pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Why would you think I’m somali-phobic, stephieboy?
    
    And what do you mean by that word also?
    
    How many Somalians do you think I taught in Wellington?
    Do you know any Somalians here in NZ, stephieboy?
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:02pm
    - stephieboy
      
      According to the 2013 census 1,671 live in NZ ,
      
      http://www.stats.govt.nz/Census/2013-census/profile-and-summary-reports/ethnic-profiles.aspx?request_value=24790&parent_id=24761&tabname=
      
      According to this link about 600-700 live in the Wellington region,
      
      http://somaligraduatejournal.org/wellington-somali-community/
      
      Next question ?
      
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      February 25, 2017 10:11pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        do you know any somalians?
        
        Like have you ever chatted to one, or watched a team of them play soccer, or told a couple of them where East is, so they can do their 5pm prayer when they’re out in the bush with you.
        
        Or are you just indulging in nasty harassing innuendo, yet again?
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:17pm
      - Jack5
        
        You haven’t answered the question from Maggy, Stephie Y.
        
        Why not?
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:17pm
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie Y:
        
        Why are there no Stephiestanis in the Government statistics from which you quote?
        
        This may be construed as evidence that the whole Stephiestani troll team is in NZ illegally.
        
        Your defence, Stephie Y?
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:24pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Oh look stephieboy
        
        who do I see gracing the pages of somaligraduate journal?
        
        why, its Abdi…..
        http://somaligraduatejournal.org/abdirahman-sheikh/
        another Rongotai old boy…. just like DPF and me.
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:25pm
      - realityczech
        
        Come on stephieboy answer the question.
        
        Its not like you are on a date or anything, after being blocked from Grindr 🙂
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:27pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Maggy Wassilieff, I know of a few one who is a Nurse and another a Doctor at Auckland City Hospital .
        
        Others I often meet on my walks in Keith Hay and Mt Roskill war memorial park .
        
        But that will do with your interrogation for now.
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:29pm
      - stephieboy
        
        jack 5 , but I’ve answered her questions to the best of my ability .
        
        But what is got to do with you is beyond me .
        
        RC. would you like to give a commentary on our your thoughts about our NZ Somali Community .
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:33pm
      - realityczech
        
        No stephieboy, Maggy was not talking about the staff at the mental health unit you have to visit as part of your court ordered treatment order, for stalking young Muslima girls in the park.
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:35pm
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie Y:
        
        So you don’t have many Somali friends. Sad, but it’s not only “Europeans” who can be prejudiced against Africans and isolated from them. (See my link below.)
        
        Even I have broken bread with Somalis in NZ, and I’m not exactly into multiculturism.
        
        But it sounds as though folk from the Indian subcontinent, including Stephiestanis, along with Arabs, are isolated from New Zealand Somalis, even though most Somalis are followers of the same religion.
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/11/bradford-stabbing-prompts-uk-asians-to-warn-of-racism-towards-black-people
        
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        February 25, 2017 10:39pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@stephieboy

You seem to have forgotten that it was me that first put up a link to the somali graduate journal here on KB.

Funny old habit of us ex-teachers… but we like to see that our students are doing well in the big wide world.
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February 25, 2017 10:32pm
- stephieboy
  
  MW,out of interest the point of posting your MSM CNN link ?
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:35pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    News that is not often reported here in NZ MSM
    
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    February 25, 2017 10:38pm
    - stephieboy
      
      But thankfully reported in MSM CNN.
      
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      February 25, 2017 11:06pm
- stephieboy
  
  Bully for you !
  
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  February 25, 2017 11:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

stephieboy, why do you think I could possibly be somali-phobic?

Did you actually watch that video clip of South Africans protesting against somali immigration?
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February 25, 2017 10:37pm
realityczech

“RC. would you like to give a commentary on our your thoughts about our NZ Somali Community .”

Yes I would stephieboy.

I am deeply concerned about their safety after hearing reports of young Muslim boys being approached by a very strange creepy man, in the Keith Hay and Mt Roskill war memorial park .
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February 25, 2017 10:39pm
Jack5

Stephie Y:

If you want to break away from Islam, may be we can help get you on the underground railway to the South Island, and hide you from the mullahs until you lose your Stephiestani accent.

Do you want to escape from Islam?

Don’t turn to Dame Devoid – she’ll probably hand you over to the mosque. But we have your welfare at heart.
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February 25, 2017 10:44pm
- realityczech
  
  stephieboy lives in constant fear they will find out about him being gay. That is why he often stalks young Muslim women. He has no idea how to act around females, so he seriously creeps them out, but it does act as a good cover, so his Imam won’t find out he is a raging poofter.
  
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  February 25, 2017 10:48pm
- stephieboy
  
  Deluded Jack5 , how is the Medina of the South Pacific coming on ?
  
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  February 25, 2017 11:07pm
Jack5

Stephie Y (12.07)….

Got it! You’re blogging to us in code that you want to go to Dunedin, which you have previously called a Medina.

There are a lot of Muslims there who might not take kindly to your defection.

Can we suggest a small southern town near Dunedin would be safer?

You better get your travelling gear together. Some warm, Western clothes, and the beard will have to go. Perhaps get rid of that skull cap thing and get a baseball hat.

We’ll alert the underground railway you’re about to ~~hump~~ jump the camel.

In the meantime, keep up the Muslim propaganda on Kiwiblog so that Stephie X and Stephie Y don’t become suspicious.
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February 25, 2017 11:23pm
- sam green
  
  Put the cork back in the bottle Jack5.
  
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  February 25, 2017 11:44pm
Jack5

[Service message to all Kiwibloggerites who are volunteers in the Freedom Railway.]

Coming through: short, paunchy, light olive-skinned Stephiestani. Will be in Western clothes. Will be clutching glossy porn magazine.

Instructions: send him on.

Message to Sam Groan: That message at 11.44 was very good cover. But remember it’s you who is to play the homeless alcoholic. You do it so well. Stick to that.
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February 25, 2017 11:48pm
- sam green
  
  Put the cork back in the bottle big fella – I did say. You sound jaundiced about now. Really dude – you are just not that funny.
  
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  February 25, 2017 11:52pm
  - Jack5
    
    Sam Groan: you are threatening the Underground Railways’ cover. We may sound jaundiced to you, but you are obviously juiced – you better stand down.
    
    Surely you must have been told before about getting too close to the Muslim escapers when you’re on the hard stuff.
    
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    February 25, 2017 11:56pm
    - sam green
      
      “We”. Nah mate – just you.
      
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      February 25, 2017 11:59pm
      - Jack5
        
        “We”. Nah …. Having a bit of trouble with the words tonight, Sam Groan? Or is that part of the character?
        
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        February 26, 2017 12:03am
      - sam green
        
        All good here Jack5.
        
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        February 26, 2017 12:08am
Manolo

The progressive divas will lecture the world:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/02/24/oscar-foreign-language-film-nominees-decry-fanaticism-us/98379732/
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