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Aliog

Hello?? Where is everyone?
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January 30, 2017 8:50am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Auckland (and Neson) anniversaries bro’, in bed eating breakfast or on a boat; sun is out in Auckland and I am going with breakfast and the boat option ?
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:00am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    There will be a lot of boats out there today, more than yesterday. I counted more than 45 boats east of The Noises. Ramp parking is a problem. Westhaven was so full many had to park illegally, Auckland Transport could have had a field day, but seemed to not be there. The germs will be there today.
    
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    January 30, 2017 9:49am
pdm

Congratulations Roger Federer – a real champion..

Was there anyone else watching who thought the TV commentators were biased towards Nadal or was it just my instincts given I was hoping for a Federer win?
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January 30, 2017 8:51am
- Aliog
  
  I agree re the congratulations – he was amazing! I thought the commentators were pretty even towards both players.
  
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  January 30, 2017 8:54am
  - Scott
    
    I think the crowds have been hopelessly in love with Roger Federer for some years. It always annoys me that my favourite guy Novak Djokovic gets no love from the crowds whether he is playing Andy Murray or Roger Federer.
    And while I am here on the women’s side what’s with the William sisters final? None of the 20 to 25-year-old women could beat them? That’s just sad.
    My favourite women’s players are Victoria Azarenka and Maria Sharapova. But one has just had a baby and one is still banned. Very sad }:
    
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    January 30, 2017 9:06am
- Keeping Stock
  
  It was a magnificent win by Federer, especially after going a service break down in the fifth and deciding set. Fair dues to Nadal as well who was both magnificent and magnanimous in defeat.
  
  Federer is undoubtably the best tennis player of my lifetime, and probably the best ever. We are unlikely to ever see another Federer vs Nadal Grand Slam final, so it was a wonderful match for that reason alone.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:04am
  - MrTips
    
    Federer is undoubtably the best tennis player of my lifetime, and probably the best ever.
    
    Erm no, that would be Serena Williams who has won 23 majors as opposed to Federer’s 18.
    
    Interestingly, both won the AO this year aged 35.
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:23am
    - pdm
      
      Roger Federer always comes across as a `good bugger’.
      
      Not so sure you can say that Serena Williams always displays the same good manners and temperament – Auckland a few weeks ago being a prime example.
      
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      January 30, 2017 10:30am
    - SPC
      
      Margaret Court has won 24 and has the best win per matches record.
      
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      January 30, 2017 12:34pm
  - SPC
    
    The rival for Federer in terms of winning Slams was probably Rod Laver.
    
    His 11 is understated as he turned pro 1963 (he had won 6 by then, including the 4 in one year 1962), and the Open era including professionals did not begin till 1968 (he won 5 more slams, including all 4 again in 1969). He won 8 professional slam events 1963-1967 (only 3 each year).
    
    But this win 5 years after his last, means his longevity as a Slam winner is more unique.
    
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    January 30, 2017 12:16pm
- MCos
  
  I was pleased to see Federer win. Not bad for an old bugger. Shows just how good Serena is too, at about the same age. Then again she doesn’t always display the good grace that Roger does, or her sister Venus.
  I thought the commentators were very good, unlike the fawning biased sycophants who cover the cricket over there (or some of the Sky rugby guys here)
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:09am
- Longknives
  
  Federer and Nadal- Both ‘Real Champions’ and All-Time Legends of sport!
  
  Note Federer didn’t start mouthing off and calling himself ‘The Greatest Athlete of All Time’ or anything absurd like that (Unlike the winner of the Piss-Weak Women’s Draw)
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:56am
- Scorpion
  
  Bigger Congratulations to ASIO and all the Australian Security Forces forces for Keeping
  Melbourne Sporting Venues Safe yet Again
  14 Successful preventative Raids in a Row
  
  TAKE A BOW
  
  THE REAL CHAMPIONS
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:56pm
Viking2

Ah another star telling Trump what to do. None other than our own child.

The Grammy winner, from Auckland’s North Shore, took to Twitter to warn the “old men in power” that there’s a storm coming, “the likes of which they cannot comprehend”.

“When I was 15 I didn’t know how to call a representative or protest efficiently, but every kid does now, whichever side they’re on,” the artist, whose real name is Ella Yelich-O’Connor, tweeted to her 4.45 million followers.

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/34293508/theres-a-storm-coming-lorde-unloads-on-the-trump-presidency/#page1
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January 30, 2017 8:57am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Strangely, like our Lizzie, I don’t give a shit about these boofheaded painted clowns utterances.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:02am
- Inandout
  
  Is she still a ‘celebrity’? Lorde may help the Left reach peak hysteria.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:05am
- Longknives
  
  Amusing that Lordy is ranting and raving about ‘Old White Men’ etc etc
  Yet she is a Bernie Sanders fan! Isn’t the dithering old Communist about 90 now??
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:59am
  - ross411
    
    I don’t think you understand the rules of unthinking outrage.
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:11am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    It’s different when the left do it
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:49am
Viking2

The future of the Wellington Sevens could be known within the next month, after a weekend of disappointment at Westpac Stadium.

The host team, and defending champions, were beaten into sixth place on Sunday, as only about 10,000 people each day turned up for what used to be Wellington’s biggest party.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/88873596/decision-on-future-of-wellington-sevens-could-be-known-within-weeks?cid=facebook.post.88873596

A well behaved Sevens crowd has pleased police, with just two arrests made from a crowd of about 18,000.

One person was arrested for trespassing during the first day of the Wellington Sevens tournament on Saturday for refusing to leave while intoxicated.

A second person was arrested for disorder on the walkway to Westpac Stadium on Sunday.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/88881636/police-pleased-with-wellington-sevens-crowd-two-arrests-and-55-ejected

Tells it’s own story eh!
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January 30, 2017 9:00am
- Southern Raider
  
  Great Police are happy. So I’m future we should aim to have no performing and poorly attended events as it reduces work for the boys in blue
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:02am
  - Longknives
    
    Agreed- Maybe if Police only let half the crowd into Western Springs for GNR this weekend and halt all alcohol sales they might have an ‘arrest free’ show!
    I should be Commissioner!!
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:01am
- Elaycee
  
  And I suspect the 18000 crowd was the combined total for 2 days. It looked awful on TV – the goose that laid the golden egg for Wellington, has been bumped off.
  
  Won’t be a hard decision for it to be canned… and what City in NZ would want to host it now?
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:16am
  - chuk
    
    And the 18,000 crowd figure would probably include all the paid up members of the Deloitte lounges whether they were there or not. Most likely most of them were not there.
    
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    January 30, 2017 9:50am
- SPC
  
  My advice is for the next two years of the Wellington 7’s (awarded fro three years last year)
  
  2018 Hamilton on Auckland Anniversary weekend.
  2019 Christchurch or venue nearby (unfortunately too early for the scarfies in Dunedin).
  
  If both venues work better than Wellington include them in the next three year rotation – allow other venues to contest for Wellington’s spot Nelson (anniversary weekend also), Napier etc.
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:30am
Southern Raider

Time to celebrate Auckland anniversary with a day out in the sun with the Black Caps
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January 30, 2017 9:01am
Inandout

Go Donald, keep the Left in a state of permanent outrage by feeding them more and more material. Like headless chickens running around aimlessly, they will eventually exhaust themselves.
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January 30, 2017 9:01am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Great analogy; Trump is the fox in the hen house even if he does slightly look like he is wearing his tail on his head.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:04am
fernglas

I took the opportunity to read the Waiting Tribunal claim filed by the Prez of the Hastings chapter of the Mongrel Mob, which asserts that racism prevents proper funding of his gang’s efforts to get kids off P.

To establish that there is prejudice against his gang he includes about five pages of quotes from this blog and that of the esteemed Mr Oil. The quotes were all about the fact that his gang is an organised criminal enterprise. He didn’t produce any evidence to show that the beliefs held about his gang’s criminality were not true, just that they existed.

I don’t believe that to be a particularly good evidential basis for alleging institutional racial discrimination against Maori on health issues, but there you have it, folks.

You people are used as proof that because the Mongrel Mob are a bunch of criminals who bear a fair share of the responsibility for the P “epidemic”, and you believe that to be true, New Zealand discriminates against Maori on health issues.

Small wonder that these problems which undoubtedly plague Maori more than the rest (needless to say, nothing about P use among Chinese, for example, within the statistics, just “us and them”) are not given the public credence they deserve.
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January 30, 2017 9:02am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Wow! The readership of this blog is much wider than I previously thought.
  
  Nga mihi o to ata to the Mobsters down the road.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:19am
- holysheet
  
  You are dealing with “The Tribunal”. Since when did you have to have facts that actually meant anything. It’s all bullshit and bluster.
  If this feral lowlife wanted to get funding, sell their fancy mofo bikes, cars, in fact sell all their ill gotten assets. When they can prove they have exhausted all other efforts at raising money, and can prove that they are successful in reducing the “P” problem, Maybe the taxpayer can come to the party. Until this happens fuck off.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:29am
- artemisia
  
  They already get taxpayer money. They want more.
  
  Alternatively they could put their time and energy into stopping their nearest and dearest starting down the addiction road in the first.
  
  Principle being that there is no point in cleaning the lake if the inflow remains polluted.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:31am
- waikatogirl
  
  Was it one of his whanau who graciously accepted a ride while hitch hiking in the Hawkes Bay, then bashed the well intentioned driver, stole his car and belongings and left injured driver on the side of the road?
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:23am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    All tarred with the same brush
    
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    January 30, 2017 12:51pm
Simon

Say John Key’s administration had been bombing the utter fuck of Fiji for 8 years. Bombing infrastructure, schools, hospitals and killing maiming civilians, basically destroying civil society.

Then along comes Bill English and sees there are Fijians displaced by the Key’s bombing. English goes well better vet these fleeing Fijians. John Key supporters would ignore the 8 years of bombing and instead smear English Hitler for his “racism”.
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January 30, 2017 9:04am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Too early for your style of insanity my friend
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:10am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Simple Simon met a pieman going to the fair.
  Said the pieman to Simple Simon:
  “You gave us this same crap the other day. Why are you repeating yourself? Here’s a pie, now fuck off.”
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:20am
- Garbageman
  
  well that’s our sevens & nines hopes fkd for another few years then eh
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:56am
Huevon

Dame Susan – will you stand up for the Jews banned from travelling to Muslim countries, the murdered Christian minorities, the oppressed and brutalized women?

What’s that I hear? Crickets?
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January 30, 2017 9:05am
- Southern Raider
  
  Doesn’t even need to be be Jews. One Israeli border stamp in your passport and you’re discriminated against by almost every Muslim majority country on the planet
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:10am
  - holysheet
    
    As an aside, in the ’70’s, I traveled from japan to England by train. There was no stamp in my passport to say I had visited any communist country on the way. This was at the height of the cold war, so they were very sensative about these things.
    
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    January 30, 2017 9:34am
    - Southern Raider
      
      Israel gives you the option as well
      
      I said put the stamp in there baby. Fuck them as I don’t want to go to their shit countries anyway
      
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      January 30, 2017 9:43am
  - Paulus
    
    A business friend of mine – a New Zealander who was also a UK citizen, and worked from London for many years had four passports as he travelled to/through some Muslim countries.
    QED
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:38am
- lifesgood
  
  Heard her on the radio this morning. Way out of her depth, she hasn’t a clue! Couldn’t answer any question sensibly. Got the job because she could play squash. Go figure!
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:15am
  - Paulus
    
    I think you will find that there was extreme difficulty in finding anybody for the job.
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:39am
- MCos
  
  I heard Susan Devoy talking on the radio this morning. As I recall she was talking about the situation in New Zealand, which is what her job covers.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:20am
- EAD
  
  Will she stand up for Christians who might want to move to the Supremacist state of Israel? (who won’t even admit Jews who believe in Jesus!)
  
  http://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/the-hateful-whispers-that-make-me-want-to-move-from-london-to-tel-aviv/
  
  I had an appointment on Monday with Israeli immigration. I’m still spinning from discovering all the ways they are generous to people wishing to move there. Israel is as pro-immigration as Britain seems anti-. They provide language lessons and pay for your flight. There are concessions and rebates for years. They hand you, I swear, a new mobile phone SIM card when you arrive at Ben Gurion airport, and there will be a taxi waiting to take you to your new home. There is a public holiday in celebration of immigrants.
  
  All it takes is some form-filling, a £50 fee, passport photos, a birth certificate and evidence that I’m Jewish. Membership of a synagogue will do, but I don’t have that. There was some rabbinical detective work: the names on my birth certificate were cross-matched to the names on my parents’ ketubah, their marriage contract. The rabbi writes a short letter and you have the proof. At the first meeting my immigration officer, Moran, asked if I’m Messianic. I am not. It would be an immovable obstacle if I were, it turns out. The whole business can be done in six weeks, if you’re more prepared and organised than I am.
  
  What is amazing is that for a nation with the most racist immigration policy in the world their fellow tribesmen lobby extensively for 3rd world immigration into White countries:
  
  http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-rabbi-who-rallies-american-jews-for-the-global-refugee-cause/
  
  Chutzpah or what!
  
  PS: Watch the anger flow at EAD for the hate crime of “noticing”..
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:40am
  - SPC
    
    Jews once a nation of refugees now in support of other refugees. Huuuge shock.
    
    Similar to Jews as a minority group supporting equality before the law, civil liberties/human rights etc – well they would as they are the canary in the gold mine.
    
    You are on firmer ground on the issue of an inconsistency in proposing multi-cultural society worldwide, while Zionists agitate for recognition of a Jewish state of Israel (while far more inclusive than the all Moslem or die Saudi Arabia, an inconsistency). But this is due to the division between Zionist Jews and those who choose to live elsewhere.
    
    You could always compare your own nationalist views to Zionist Jews and seek solidarity and support from them against globalist Jews. Or do you dislike nationalist Jews more than globalist Jews for having a different nationalism? Oh well, your call.
    
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    January 30, 2017 11:00am
  - Scorpion
    
    Multi Culturalism for Israel
    Multi Culturalism for Communist China
    and
    Multi Culturalism for Saudi Arabia
    
    When all 3 of them Adopt it
    
    SO DO WE
    
    FAIR is FAIR
    
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    January 30, 2017 11:45pm
slightlyrighty

OK, Calling Trump Supporters, again.

The US National Security Council is the principal forum used by the President of the United States for consideration of national security and foreign policy matters with senior national security advisors and Cabinet officials and is part of the Executive Office of the President of the United States.

A very important forum where as much information should be imparted as possible, one would think.

The Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs have been statutory members. A wise inclusion given the gravitas of the subject matter.

Trump has removed both these roles from the NSC, as they are now only required to attend when relevant to their jobs.

Personally, I couldn’t think of 2 more relevant roles that should be attending all NSC meetings. In matters of National Security, how much of an idiot would you have to be to not have the head of your military forces and head of your intelligence services at each meeting?

These meeting may bring up information that becomes instantly relevant. These 2 individuals may have information that becomes relevant to an item being discussed where the connection is not apparent.

And if this was not bad enough, he has made a new permanent appointment to the NSC.

Steve Bannon.

Steve Fucking Bannon.

What the actual fuck is going on here?

Now Steve Bannon was in the military. For 7 years. He was a junior naval officer. This in no way qualifies him for the role. I should know as I was also a junior officer for a short time, and to replace the Chair of the joint chiefs with a far right thinking person with only 7 years experience would be like replacing a experienced cardio vascular specialist surgeon with 30 years experience with a 4th year resident doctor.

Who now advises Trump of the potential impact of NSC decisions with regard to the Intelligence and defence communities?

This is a fantastically short sighted decision by a man who on a day to day basis, keeps illustrating how ill suited he is for the role he finds himself in. Can those of you who support Trump enlighten me as to the logic of your position? Bush would not have done this, Reagan would not have done this.
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January 30, 2017 9:10am
- brett68
  
  Trump is a fucking idiot.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:48am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Idiot he may be, in charge he is.
    
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    January 30, 2017 9:55am
    - brett68
      
      For how long that’s the question, if he carries on with the sort of
      asshattery he’s been displaying he’ll get rolled by his own party.
      
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      January 30, 2017 10:04am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        How?
        
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        January 30, 2017 1:40pm
    - MCos
      
      Are you sure about that?
      
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      January 30, 2017 10:04am
    - Viking2
      
      Trump WON, you turkeys lost.
      suck it up buttercup.
      
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      January 30, 2017 11:48am
      - brett68
        
        I’m not an American you stupid old cunt, I didn’t lose anything
        
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        January 30, 2017 1:18pm
  - MT_Tinman
    
    brett68
    
    Trump is a fucking idiot.
    
    Mr Trump is the democratically elected leader of the strongest country in the free world.
    
    You are an anonymous commenter on someone else’s blog.
    
    I know which one I’d consider the idiot.
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:41am
- fernglas
  
  There was supreme irony in Kelly-Anne Conway’s defence of the choice of countries to be put on the blacklist; she said that we had to trust Trump as he had access to intelligence we don’t. In the face of Trump refusing security briefings and disparaging the intelligence community, it rang somewhat hollow.
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:03am
  - ross411
    
    He refused some briefings and disparaged months ago for unrelated reasons, yet it somehow reflects his current briefing state? Are you deluded? Or just blatantly self-serving?
    
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    January 30, 2017 11:44am
    - fernglas
      
      Or realistic. Leopards, spots, etc. The disparagement was at least a week ago.
      
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      January 30, 2017 11:57am
      - fernglas
        
        Sorry, a fortnight ago.
        “Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to “leak” into the public. One last shot at me.Are we living in Nazi Germany?
        1:48 AM – 12 Jan 2017″
        
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        January 30, 2017 12:00pm
      - ross411
        
        He refused briefings, which is the main relevant point, months ago.
        
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        January 30, 2017 1:33pm
- slightlyrighty
  
  I note that while I have 8 downvotes at present, none of those who have downvoted me have responded to my invitation to explain the logic of these appointments….
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:06am
  - brett68
    
    Trumps supporters seem to be ultra-tribal, he’s their messiah, the man can do no wrong.
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:13am
    - Paulus
      
      No, the Messiah who just left it stuffed it properly – we will give judgement in a few years about this Messiah.
      
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      January 30, 2017 10:41am
      - Viking2
        
        Katie Louise Mitchell why has dumpster not banned muslims from.saudi arabia as that is where the 9/11 and many other terrorists and bin laden came from.
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        Tony Overbeek Because Saudi Arabia and other countries have a government recording system much like nz where before entering a country the person can be looked up and get information on their background history.
        The 7 countries affected do not.
        So nobody knows exactly who they are or what they have been up to.
        
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        January 30, 2017 11:57am
  - fernglas
    
    There is no logic, and people make a bad mistake if they think Trump is a rational decision maker.
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:16am
- Dave Mann
  
  I, like many people I know, am ambivalent abut Trump in that I share many of his views about the need to shake up the PC quagmire that is killing the US, but I also recognise that he is a repulsive and probably mad human being, so there’s a bit of a conundrum there (to put it mildly).
  
  Anyway, that aside, your piece raised some real concerns about the new NSC makeup and it was really well written. Thank you slightlyrighty for your insightful analysis.
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:17am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    The PC asshattery that pervades western society needs to be challenged, but the standardbearer for this cannot be the asshole that Trump is…..
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:24am
- virtualmark
  
  slightlyrightly,
  
  As I posted on another thread I believe Trump will be impeached before 2020. Let me expand on how I think that will go down …
  
  At some point in the next few years there will be a terrorist attack in the US. Sadly it’s almost inevitable.
  
  Questions will be asked. Mr Trump, how many security briefings have you taken in the last 12 months? Mr Trump, were you able to receive advice from the DNI and JCOS on threats to America? Mr Trump, you are failing in your duties to keep America safe.
  
  People think the obvious path to impeachment is Trump’s business conflicts of interest. But given they are clearly egregious but the Republicans haven’t called foul on them already it’s not a high-likelihood channel to swing enough Republicans over to support impeachment.
  
  But Republicans will be very worried about being tarred by the brush of not taking the country’s security seriously. If Trump drops the ball on national security that is where the Republicans will see the opportunity to roll him.
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:42am
  - Inandout
    
    Someone on his staff has just read your comment and passed it on to Donald, so he can take immediate action.
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:46am
  - ross411
    
    TLDR; This is your fantasy, and it’s based on news reports from months ago extrapolated out into the future.
    
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    January 30, 2017 11:46am
    - Viking2
      
      Trump like all good CEO’s has appointed people with a responsibility to do the job for which they are paid.
      Why then should he need to be doing their job or making the decisions they should make for those CEO’s.
      
      We have sorted most of this for our Govt. departments so why wouldn’t he.
      We also run a no surprises so that things that do need English’s attention get there.
      
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      January 30, 2017 12:01pm
- Fletch
  
  Not sure he is the best choice either, but he’s got to be better than whoever Obama had in there?
  
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  January 30, 2017 3:51pm
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/88880169/possible-gun-sighting-sparks-aos-call-out-in-hamilton

Single mothers are more highly correlated with violence and criminality than firearms.

Why aren’t the cops called out when someone sees a single mother pushing a pram?
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January 30, 2017 9:10am
Happychappy

While the media have gone the colour red and green in their headline this morning where was the crowd yesterday supporting this speech to the Nation by two Political novices. You take away the high rarkie and candidates that attended this marriage of convenience and you have less than 60% of people in the crowd to hear the two Leaders talk about them selves or condemn Bill English because he won’t back down for Labour or Maori and attend Waitangi. Oh to have journalism that does not take sides and has orgasms every time Andrew Little speaks.
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January 30, 2017 9:13am
- artemisia
  
  ‘high rarkie’ – love it!
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:33am
  - holysheet
    
    He meant High darkie didn’t he?
    
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    January 30, 2017 9:37am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Expect a call from Dame Susan for that comment HS
      
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      January 30, 2017 9:57am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I hope Happychappy doesn’t copyright it.
    
    I intend to plagiarize it.
    
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    January 30, 2017 9:40am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Me too! when Happychappy first came onto this blog I gave him a hard time for his poor English and he explained (I think) that he’s slightly dyslexic and so I and others backed off accordingly. But a lot of the time he’s right on the button (if not grammatically correct) and sometimes he comes up with a real gem. ‘High rarkie’ is a corker and I look forward to hearing more about him (and his sister) in the future! 😀
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:48am
Manolo

Endless Soros’ funding:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/01/29/soros-bankrolling-effort-to-stop-trumps-temporary-refugee-halt-order/

The flurry of anguished news stories and protests surrounding President Trump’s executive action temporarily suspending “immigrants and non-immigrants” from “countries of particular concern” appears to be part of a coordinated PR effort financed by left-wing billionaire George Soros.
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January 30, 2017 9:24am
- Ross12
  
  The protesters, including Soros have short memories. All recent Presidents have put bans, of some sort, on immigrants. This includes Obama who acted six times
  
  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-mocks-trump-but-has-barred-immigrants-many-muslim-6-times/article/2594016
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:07am
- Paulus
  
  Remember Soros apparently lost over $1 billion hedge over the non election of Hillary.
  Now it is vendetta or as we say UTU.
  He is backing his nephew’s wife bid to get into the political sphere. – She has been know as Chelsea and is expected to ” get” a New York Congress seat to be vacated shortly by an octarian retiring gentleman.
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:47am
Nukuleka

RNZ ‘news’ continues to be no more than RNZ propaganda, specifically left wing and specifically anti-Trump. The only radio station I listen to is RNZ Concert- for the music- but the anti-Trump diatribes are ruining my listening enjoyment. I am tired of having to reach for the off button every time the ‘news’ comes on. Grrr…..
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January 30, 2017 9:34am
- Inandout
  
  Even the music stations manage to slip in anti Trump material. I flicked through the channels this morning and there was a bescarfed Muslim woman on TV1, no doubt also outraged by Trump.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:42am
artemisia

Oh noes. Landlords are killing their tenants. Quick make the landlords put visibility strips on windows and door. Those giving their opinion are from the University of Otago in Wellington (surprisingly, not). I hope their research is rather better than the conclusions they draw in the article.

” … each year, even when there are no earthquakes, there are 1600 excess winter deaths (the difference between winter and non-winter mortality rates), 8000 excess winter hospitalisations, 250 home injury deaths, 18,000 home injury hospitalisations, and 650,000 minor home injuries. We know that many of these deaths and hospitalisations could be prevented by requiring the basic health and safety standards required in the University of Otago RWoF”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/88842311/lucy-telfar-barnard-and-philippa-howdenchapman-treat-rentals-like-quakeprone-buildings
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January 30, 2017 9:38am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  650,000? Really? I would like to see their definition of a minor home accident.
  
  650,000 represents some 14.something % of the population not including all those who don’t report such incidents; that’s a whole heap of Frank Spencers we have in our society.
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:05am
flipper

And the MSM hysteria on the Trump/Pence election and other matters continues as before. One thought they reached the nadir with their (Dewey v Truman like) coverage of the POTUS election, but events since have proved that they are still digging ….. and that the walls to what little remains of their credibility are now under threat.

Oh dear. What a pity. Never mind. 🙂

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444370/donald-trump-refugee-executive-order-no-muslim-ban-separating-fact-hysteria
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January 30, 2017 9:39am
Manolo

This progressive complains:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_FEWER_PRIESTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-01-28-08-27-48

Pope Francis says he is concerned about what he calls a “hemorrhage” of priests and nuns from the Catholic church.

The pope on Saturday told participants at a Vatican gathering on religious life that the loss of clergy is weakening the church.
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January 30, 2017 9:59am
- holysheet
  
  What did he expect once the kiddy fiddling was exposed?
  These priests have finally realised that their evil actions have resulted in their younger recruits knowing that the chance of them being caught has increased to the point where it’s not worth becoming a priest.
  They would have a better chance of getting away with it if they switched sky fairies and joined the religion of peace. After all their top man is a well known paedophile.
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:38am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  This is a positive thing. Eventually the lack of priests will force them to allow female priests (I suspect more women are comfortable with celibacy than men) and/or allow priests to get married like other normal mentally balanced humans. Priests having mistresses is already very common.
  
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  January 30, 2017 1:57pm
rightoverlabour

Compare the two verions of the USA raid in Yemen.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/29/us-navy-seal-killed-3-injured-in-raid-on-al-qaeda-in-yemen.html

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/88882341/american-soldier-killed-in-yemen-in-us-president-donald-trumps-first-military-action
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January 30, 2017 10:34am
SPC

So we finally know why Trump was walking hand in hand with May (germaphobe and all), it was not a sign of Anglo-Saxon unity but a legacy of his wariness when walking down slopes or steps.

Keep an eye on him the next time he gets off a plane (lift up and down man does not use stairs).
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January 30, 2017 10:37am
Manolo

The lightweight Mrs Devoy should take her moral outrage somewhere else…
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/nz-govt-urged-to-speak-up-over-trumps-refugee-ban/ar-AAmnBjJ?li=BBqdk7Q&ocid=mailsignout

Dame Susan Devoy, speaking to Morning Report, said New Zealanders could not afford to be bystanders.

“We can’t actually understand how much this affects Muslim New Zealanders living here in New Zealand … it’s just so hard to believe that this is happening in this day and age.
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January 30, 2017 10:54am
- howitis
  
  There are about 200 countries in the world.
  With 109 people stopped at airports inside the USA what are the chances it even affects NZ?
  SFA.
  
  The hysteria extends to Mohamed Muktar Jama Farah…. or Sir Mo Farrar.
  This is the talented British Olympian citizen with a British passport that the media are getting all jiggly about.
  This stuff is pure entertainment to see liberals heads explode.
  
  Prez Trump has way exceeded the entertainment value of The Apprentice.
  I only watched the first year when it was serious and the runner up was a Negro chappy by the name of Kwame. I suspect the fact that Kwame got this far would obviate any call that Trump is Wascist.
  Kwame was essentially white anted in the final task by a psycho Negro woman by the name of Omarosa.
  It was a black on black crime. Oh so familiar.
  
  Prez Trump. The gift that keeps on giving.
  Four more years; four more years….
  
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  January 30, 2017 12:45pm
- Jack5
  
  Dame Devoid – probably the worst political appointment in NZ history.
  
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  January 30, 2017 2:17pm
VicParking

Bill English take note. Here is Putins speach to the Duma, shortest ever.
In Russia, live like Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, it should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslim’s then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law.
“Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’. We will not tolerate disrespect of our Russian culture. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland, and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Muslims are taking over those countries and they will not take over Russia. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims.
“When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the Russian national interest first, observing that the Muslims Minorities Are Not Russians.”
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January 30, 2017 11:08am
- Viking2
  
  Unfortunately the biggest mosque in the world is in Moscow and Putin helped to open it. 😆
  
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  January 30, 2017 12:09pm
Manolo

Scorning the mad prince:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4167660/Trump-avoid-Charles-UK-visit-climate-change.html

Donald Trump’s forthcoming State visit to Britain was hit by a diplomatic row last night after it emerged he wants to avoid Prince Charles because of their dispute over global warming.

The President is understood to have made it clear he does not want talks with the Prince at Clarence House, a regular feature of such visits. Trump is said to fear a meeting will encourage environmentalists to stage protests against him.
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January 30, 2017 11:12am
- jonar
  
  Donald Trump’s forthcoming State visit to Britain was hit by a diplomatic row last night after it emerged he wants to avoid Prince Charles because of their dispute over global warming.
  
  Aw, the poor snowflake.
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:49am
- Gabby
  
  What a big girl’s blouse.
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:56am
  - cmm
    
    Gabby are you a nett tax payer or are you bludging off the people you despise so much?
    
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    January 30, 2017 12:42pm
- Garbageman
  
  Cant really blame Trump not wanting to meet the noddy eared bore Charlie is just another celebrity voice blowin in the wind
  
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  January 30, 2017 1:01pm
Stars And Stripes

Donald Trump’s Muslim ban has no place in NZ, Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully says
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88884084/bill-english-urged-to-break-silence-on-donald-trumps-muslim-ban.

Yeah fair enough but how about we go one step further back and just say Muslims Have No Place In NZ.
There are lots more countries anyway in which they are a majority that they have not turned into complete shitholes yet so obviously their services are still required at home.
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January 30, 2017 11:19am
- Jack5
  
  What would you expect from McCully after his sheep deals with the Saudis and his part in NZ stabbing Israel in the back at the Security Council?
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:31am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Yeah I don’t have any expectations of McCully as he is just saying the obligatory stuff to try and be on the correct side of the debate.
    However I have to admit I am totally ambivalent about the Israel resolution stuff as I don’t see Israel as having been a particularly good friend to NZ over the years with sending spies here to try and undermine our passport system and the like.
    We have more loyal allies in my opinion.
    
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    January 30, 2017 11:46am
- Viking2
  
  Australia’s Foreign Minister Julie Bishop says the country’s government will support Donald Trump’s “strong immigration and border protection polices”, as the leaders of Britain and Germany criticise an executive order banning entry to the United States for refugees and citizens from a range of majority Muslim countries.
  
  Speaking in Los Angeles after events promoting Australian business and tourism, Bishop said the government was working closely with the White House to ensure Australians would continue to have access to the United States and consular officials were assisting travellers on the ground.
  
  “I’m confident that the Australian government and the US government will continue to support each other in ensuring that we can implement our strong immigration and border protection policies,” Bishop said.
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/88890863/australia-will-support-donald-trump-on-strong-border-protection-policies?cid=facebook.post.88890863
  
  time Mc Cully followed others out the door.
  
  Aussies stance will create a leveraging oppourtunity for those wanting a way in if we don’t shut the door as well.
  Won’t please Trump if we allow that.
  
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  January 30, 2017 12:13pm
RF

Jeeez Wayne. What a major fail today by angry that left him with egg all over his ugly face.

The host that was filling in for our Rachel Smally between 5 & 6 on News Talk ZB this morning had arranged to interview Angry at 5.50am.

Silly bugger must have slept in as rather than an in depth 5 mt interview that would have allowed him to expand on the MOU with the greens he stuttered and stammered his way through a brief 1 mt prepared speech that revealed nothing new.

The host was not impressed and was quick to condemn it.
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January 30, 2017 11:30am
- Viking2
  
  Probably still pissed form the Carrot & Celery wine from last night.
  
  I see that the Toyota possums like celery on their toast. 😆
  
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  January 30, 2017 12:15pm
waikatogirl

All Angry’s speeches should be made at 5.50am
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January 30, 2017 11:39am
sooty

Why does McCully always look like he’s been slapped with a snapper or two?
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January 30, 2017 11:42am
- holysheet
  
  You mean like this?
  
  https://media.giphy.com/media/AxAvTAZGKAsjS/giphy.gif
  
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  January 30, 2017 12:03pm
- Viking2
  
  Probably was. Shearer had a couple in the House so I suppose they were confiscated and Mc Cully got them tossed at him when he screwed the Israelite’s.
  
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  January 30, 2017 12:17pm
Viking2

New Zealand’s exports to the world have fallen for the second year in a row, led by a drop in the two largest commodities.

Figures from Statistics New Zealand showed the value of all export goods was $48.4 billion in 2016, down $544 million on 2015 and $1.6b lower than in 2014.

The fall was led by substantial falls in beef (down $481m) and lamb (down $415m), with the overall meat and edible offal group recording a 13 per cent drop in exports.

“The large fall in meat exports for 2016 reflects a decline from the record meat season in 2015 for both value and quantity,” international statistics senior manager Nicola Growden said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/88892618/lower-beef-and-lamb-sales-sees-nz-exports-for-for-second-year-in-a-row

Never mind Trump this is a big problem for NZ.
More imports and less exports.
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January 30, 2017 12:41pm
- Jack5
  
  You are right, Viking2, yet sadly it’s unlikely to be an election issue.
  
  We’re a shopaholic country staying afloat by hocking the farm(land).
  
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  January 30, 2017 2:14pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  So we need to bring in another few thousand multi-millionaire chinese to keep the balance of trade figures looking OK.
  
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  January 30, 2017 2:20pm
Viking2

Green Party list MP Denise Roche is facing a challenge for the Auckland Central selection from political newcomer Chloe Swarbrick.

The party’s nominations for the Auckland Central seat closed yesterday and Swarbrick and Roche are the only candidates to put their names forward. The Greens will select a candidate on February 13.

Swarbrick, who runs a digital marketing business, joined the Greens after placing third in the Auckland Mayoral contest. She came from nowhere to claim nearly 30,000 votes after running a campaign based on a strong social media presence.

She has previously said that she not only wants to stand in an Auckland seat but to win one.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11791259

That’s a problem for Nicky Kay IMHO.
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January 30, 2017 12:45pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Greens can only win seats in electorates that are majority students/beneficiaries/public servants. Auckland Central is hardly going to swing green (National party vote is greater than labour and green combined).
  
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  January 30, 2017 2:24pm
Manolo

The money flows freely:
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/

Another Soros grantee and march “partner” is the Arab-American Association of New York, whose executive director, Linda Sarsour, is a march co-chair.
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January 30, 2017 1:45pm
Jack5

The schooner that was listed on TradeMe is back up for auction. The buyer of this sizeable yacht with a $500,000 bid did not complete the transaction.

The seller is taking steps to make the auction this time more secure.

Sell the house, buy the yacht, sail away….

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=1252089391&cc=602&pid=543614571&hbc=&member_hash=&ct=title-link#qna
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January 30, 2017 2:11pm
BananaLlama

Leftist thugs rioting at airports bash Trump supporter unconscious then stand around jeering at him.
https://twitter.com/DymburtNews/status/825877150423085057
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January 30, 2017 2:46pm
Chuck Bird

I generally support the police but is I was a landlord I would be highly pissed off. Do others think the matter could have been handled better?

‘The police just made the biggest cock-up’: Armed police destroy couple’s home in search of wanted man

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11791011
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January 30, 2017 2:57pm
- Viking2
  
  And no doubt the police will now follow Tenancy Tribunal policy and tell the owner to claim it from his insurance company.
  No recompense from either the tenant nor the police.
  
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  January 30, 2017 6:40pm
Manolo

Sip your latte and sing kumbaya:
https://news.starbucks.com/news/living-our-values-in-uncertain-times

I write to you today with deep concern, a heavy heart and a resolute promise. Let me begin with the news that is immediately in front of us: we have all been witness to the confusion, surprise and opposition to the Executive Order that President Trump issued on Friday, effectively banning people from several predominantly Muslim countries from entering the United States, including refugees fleeing wars.
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January 30, 2017 3:39pm
Fletch

Andrew Little just gave a press conference in which he is critical of Trump’s immigration policy, and then goes on to say NZ needs to slow down immigration to protect its own interests….
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January 30, 2017 3:58pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  What do you expect from a complete fuckwit?
  
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  January 30, 2017 7:31pm
Stars And Stripes

NZ disagrees with Trump ban- English
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11791201.
“Asked if the Government would consider raising the refugee quota, English said the quota had just increased from 750 to 1000 and New Zealand spent about $100,000 per refugee each year to assist with housing, language and skills to become employable.”

$100000 per refugee per year!!!!.
Shame the politicians don’t value the taxpayers as much who actually pay for all this free stuff for these dirty buzzards.
Come to New Zealand and you will be more valuable as propaganda items on the world stage than the locals who are predominately white and wealthy so have no value.
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January 30, 2017 4:05pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Exactly, what a massive waste of money. We could pay 3rd world countries a fraction of that to take the refugees and support them for life.
  
  Taking refugees is state virtue-signalling, not significantly helping or fixing the problem. For the same money the west is capable of getting rid of the shit heads who create the refugees in the first place, or at least arming them so that they can fight back and fix the problem themselves.
  
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  January 30, 2017 7:05pm
Inandout

http://www.smh.com.au/world/five-dead-in-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-mosque-president-20170130-gu1c7d.html

Lone wolves?
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January 30, 2017 4:14pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  I called Alison Mau on RadioLive. She thought the killers were white supremacists. I am sure she would not want to bet her house that the killers were not rag heads.
  
  “It seemed to me that they had a Quebecois accent. They started to fire, and as they shot they yelled, ‘Allahu akbar!’
  
  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686
  
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  January 30, 2017 5:50pm
  - Fletch
    
    Alison Mau, who would be stoned in a Muslim country for being lesbian. I hate to think what they’d do to her before she was killed.
    
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    January 30, 2017 5:53pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I am sure she would not want to bet her house that the killers were not rag heads.
    
    You’re better than that kind of comment Chuck.
    
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    January 30, 2017 6:31pm
    - Inandout
      
      You sound like one of those anti family violence ads. lol.
      
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      January 30, 2017 6:41pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Please expand. Do you think referring to Muslims as rag heads is unacceptable? If so, do you think the anti-Maori references on this blog are okay?
      
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      January 30, 2017 8:45pm
      - Inandout
        
        ‘Death to all infidels’ OK? ‘White mofos’ OK?
        
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        January 30, 2017 10:06pm
Viking2

Going PC KS.
That’s not the Trump way.
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January 30, 2017 6:42pm
Longknives

“Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the shooting at a Quebec mosque which reportedly killed five people is a “terrorist attack on Muslims”.”

If a Gunman had gone into a Catholic Church and shot the place up I freaking guarantee you Trudeau and Co would be trotting out their trusty old ‘There is no evidence this was Terrorism’, ‘Lone Wolf’, ‘Mentally ill’ etc etc lines…
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January 30, 2017 7:11pm
- Jack5
  
  From Canada’s CBC News:
  
  “It seemed to me that they had a Québécois accent. They started to fire, and as they shot they yelled, ‘Allahu akbar!’ The bullets hit people that were praying. People who were praying lost their lives. A bullet passed right over my head,” said the witness.
  
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  January 30, 2017 8:26pm
Longknives

Re the Cricket- Stoinis deserves a beer! The rest of that Aussie Team however were a disgrace..
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January 30, 2017 7:13pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yes he was fantastic. But how many of his sixes would have been caught at the MCG?
  AND, do Eden Park’s short boundaries guarantee big scores?
  If you can hit lots of sixes, probably. But 60 metre boundaries compared with 50 means that the fielders each have to cover 44% more area, so it all balances out.
  
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  January 30, 2017 7:36pm
Andrei

I know people often do dumb things but this has to be up there with the dumbest
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January 30, 2017 8:04pm
- nasska
  
  It’s the placement that’s just so wrong. To bugger up a perfectly good shin, if he had an uninked arse cheek to sport the image on, is a crime against good taste.
  
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  January 30, 2017 8:14pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  There are some serious meatheads in Christchurch, but this guy must be weapons-grade well-done.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:00pm
Jack5

This must be satire!

A report from Britain that doctors must use the term “pregnant people” rather than “pregnant women” so as not to upset transgender people.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170256/BMA-guidance-insult-women-writes-Sarah-Vine.html
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January 30, 2017 8:23pm
wiseowl

News coverage of the Trump issue on radio today has been appalling but tonight, coverage of the water contamination court proceedings today explained the contamination may have come from sheep shit.
The news item concluded with what appeared to be a snide attack.
‘the sheep may have been from a farm’
FFS
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January 30, 2017 8:41pm
- nasska
  
  …..”‘the sheep may have been from a farm”….
  
  Say what you like about the NZ MSM but you can’t pull the wool over their eyes. 🙂
  
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  January 30, 2017 8:46pm
  - sooty
    
    Kiddies day release from school to go to work with yor parents was it?
    
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    January 30, 2017 9:39pm
Manolo

A mob in Dallas:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/loud-arab-call-prayer-inside-dallas-fort-worth-airport-muslims-pray-chant-allah-video/
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January 30, 2017 9:17pm
EAD

reason 1488 why the MSM has lost all credibility

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170500/Five-dead-GUNMEN-open-fire-Mosque-Quebec-City.html

Despite the human shouting “Allu Akbar” – the people who control the MSM are trying to paint it as Trump’s fault and as the result of Whiteys “hate”

A flavour of the article:

-Attack happened amid protests over Donald Trump’s divisive and controversial ‘Muslim immigration ban

– This morning, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau described the mass killing as a ‘terrorist attack on Muslims’ (yeah Justin but you forgot to add it was by Muslims )

– The deadly shooting unfolded following a weekend which has seen President Donald Trump’s divisive and controversial ‘Muslim immigration ban’ spark widespread protests across America.

– It sparked Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to remark that his country remains open to all immigration.

– He tweeted: ‘To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength.’ (on what basis Justin? Saying something doesn’t make it so. Why do you feel the need to say this ridiculous mantra after yet another event that reinforces that diversity is actually a weakness )

PS: at least this article gives us an idea who the shooter is – check out Stuff for a real mind bending portrayal of reality and non-disclosure.
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January 30, 2017 9:18pm
- fernglas
  
  EAD, you of all people should recognise a false flag black op when it stares you in the face.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:44pm
  - EAD
    
    Quite possibly Fernglass,
    
    3 men walk into a Mosque armed with AK47s yet only 5 people die. That would be the sort of casualty list if they were armed with say knifes.
    
    Something doesn’t sit right but I’ll hold back on speculation until I do more research.
    
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    January 30, 2017 10:12pm
- Scorpion
  
  I blame Racist Donald Trump for the NZ p Epidemic
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:47pm
- rangitoto
  
  The gunmen are reported to be Syrian refugees recently arrived in Canada. Big egg on the lightweight Trudeau’s face if true.
  
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  January 31, 2017 12:31am
Manolo

Five Frog candidates:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_FRANCE_ELECTION_CANDIDATES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-01-29-16-50-48
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January 30, 2017 9:18pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Hasn’t it been a fantastic few days on GD without megatroll Stephieboy?
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January 30, 2017 9:19pm
- EAD
  
  A true blessing.
  
  It not just the verbally dyslexic comments – it’s the time people waster replying to them.
  
  A commentator best ignored.
  
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  January 30, 2017 9:32pm
- Inandout
  
  Now I know how Americans must feel with their new found freedom. Stephie is the voice of political correctness on steroids.
  
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  January 30, 2017 10:38pm
- Scorpion
  
  Is he doing tending Goats
  on Holy Mount Roskill
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:49pm
  - Manolo
    
    More servicing than tending, I reckon.
    
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    January 31, 2017 5:51am
UrbanNeocolonialist

https://twitter.com/charlesdamboise/status/825975355097903105
1 Quebecois and 1 Moroccan attacker in Quebec mosque shooting. Moroccan is almost certainly Muslim so this is likely another Muslim Terrorist attack. Quelle surprise.
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January 30, 2017 9:57pm
- Scorpion
  
  So what are you surprised about?
  
  What did you expect?
  
  That is would be Mother Focken Theresa?
  
  You were all hoping it was a Trumpo Dumpo
  KKK Alt right extremist?
  
  Barp Wrong do you get why he is
  Shutting the Border
  
  IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS A WAR ON
  
  and only A RETARD can’t see it.
  
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  January 30, 2017 11:52pm

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