General Debate 25 January 2017

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Viking2

Another day of vile anti Trump messages and soon to be May’s turn again.

Manic depressives I guess.
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January 25, 2017 8:03am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I have not seen tossers spelt that way before; learn something everyday here
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:09am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I pity some of them V2; what sad, depressing lives they must live.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:12am
  - GoVege
    
    What’s depressing is a chauvinist ignoramus like Trump in charge of the nuclear button.
    
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    January 25, 2017 12:04pm
    - Viking2
      
      Give him time lads give him time and in the end he will become a Trump supporter.
      
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      January 25, 2017 7:03pm
- Longknives
  
  I’ve got a Facebook ‘friend’ who just bombards us with Anti-Trump propaganda every bloody day.
  I usually ignore but when she started ranting about Barron Trump yesterday (‘It’s outrageous that Saturday Night Live can’t enjoy Freedom of Speech in Trump’s America’ etc etc) I politely pointed out that they were attacking a ten year old Child.
  I’ve now been defriended.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:18am
  - Kiwiladdy
    
    Those defending Katie (from SNL) on twitter are outrageous. The professionally offended are trying to say it’s OK to attack a 10 year old! A 10 year old ffs.
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:22am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    At least there has been an adverse consequence of the SNL attack on Trump via his son:
    
    A Saturday Night Live writer has been sacked over an offensive Barron Trump tweet as Chelsea Clinton defends the president’s son.
    
    The SNL writer has been suspended indefinitely after tweeting a poorly received joke about Trump’s 10-year-old son, Barron.
    
    In a now-deleted tweet, Katie Rich tweeted that Barron “will be this country’s first homeschool shooter.”
    
    An outcry on social media from across the political spectrum followed, with many calling for a boycott of the comedy show.
    
    https://thewest.com.au/politics/donald-trump/saturday-night-live-writer-katie-rich-sacked-for-barron-trump-tweet-ng-b88365114z
    
    I don’t care who the politician is, or what side of the political divide they come from; trying to score points against them using their children is absolutely wrong.
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:34am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      I agree KS. What if, for arguments sake, a MSM outlet in NZ continually posted outrage articles about a Prime Ministers son from trolling his facebook page? Imagine the outcry.
      
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      January 25, 2017 8:37am
      - Gabby
        
        Maxipads loves it. He made love to that employment.
        
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        January 25, 2017 8:58pm
    - 3-coil
      
      KS – one rule for the left, another for everyone else.
      
      Even when Obama used both his kids to attack Mitt Romney during the 2012 election (calling him a “bullshitter”) there was no retaliation from the GOP supporters. The Obama daughters were sacred cows. Attacking a politician’s kids (like this Barron Trump incident) has always been a no-go area…until now, and the pig-ignorant MSM wonder why their reputations and relevance have disappeared down the toilet.
      
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      January 25, 2017 10:36am
    - Flash
      
      “I don’t care who the politician is, or what side of the political divide they come from; trying to score points against them using their children is absolutely wrong.”
      
      This.
      
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      January 25, 2017 11:38am
  - labrator
    
    I’ve now been defriended.
    
    Winning!
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:45am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    Trump’s kids do have a high profile but the line has to be drawn at attacking a 10 year old. Freedom of speech in the US is a right, that is true. But if we are to lambast those on the Far Right for equating the last FLOTUS to a primate, we should realise that nobody needs to resort to cruelty to get their point across.
    
    SNL can be very clever, but this was not their finest hour.
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:03am
  - cmm
    
    This is just a classic case of trying to make people walk away.
    
    To them there are no principles, there is just war. Principles are for losers.
    
    They are very quick to turn your principles against you as a weapon, but do not hold themselves to any principles.
    
    They will attack anyone and everyone to the extent a reasonable person just has enough and walks away.
    
    Where’s the reasonable person that would attack kids? I don’t recall the Obama girls being hounded by the right.
    
    To an extent we see the same with stephie and Gabby here. Relentless abuse trying to poison the well of reasonable discourse. They just hope everyone will give up and they feel smug because they’ve destroyed yet another avenue of rational discussion.
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:04am
    - Gabby
      
      That’s how cmmists carry out their insidious dastardly schemes, the utter swine.
      
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      January 25, 2017 8:57pm
  - Fletch
    
    Luckily, no one on my Facebook posts that kind of stuff, although I will see the occasional ‘like’ of anti-Trump stuff.
    
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    January 25, 2017 10:57am
- Huevon
  
  Radio NZ has gone full retard over Trump.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:38am
- All_on_Red
  
  They’ll be even more depressed now.
  ‘The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.’
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:46am
Paulus Gnome

An Auckland tabloid tells us ‘Glen Innes tenant Niki Rauti rejected several houses, company says, including newly built home’

‘She said she was only offered four homes.’

Only four! ffs

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11787765
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January 25, 2017 8:07am
- Longknives
  
  What a self-righteous bludging parasite!
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:11am
  - Komata
    
    Umm no, just a ‘Special Person’.
    
    ‘Nuff said?
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:48am
    - lifesgood
      
      Just drove past the state’s house that she lives in. Pack of unemployed losers camping out on the state’s huge section. I’ll be furious if she isn’t evicted. This whole thing is a disgrace and why on earth has it been allowed to go on for so long? Why does a judge even need to consider it, it seems like a clear cut case.
      
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      January 25, 2017 11:30am
- ross411
  
  Housing is a human right. Lol. She isn’t being denied housing, just the housing she demands to have when she demands it for as long as she demands. My tax dollars pay for her right to have the house she demands.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:17am
- cmm
  
  Why do these people even need houses?
  
  Most of these people struggle to cope with the basics of life – including things like cleaning. Surely a house is way too big for them.
  
  Surely something more along the lines of a backpacker’s accomodation would be better: small bed-sitter with a communal kitchen.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:22am
  - ross411
    
    These people?
    
    You mean those who have been trained to expect others to pay for their lifestyle, and to house them without question, through a coddled life of over-catered entitlement.
    
    Right?
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:30am
  - RF
    
    Never mind. They will soon blame Bill English and after him Donald Trump.
    
    The left need someone to blame. Poor wee snow flakes.
    
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    January 25, 2017 12:37pm
fernglas

It’s good to see the UK Supreme Court reaffirming the supremacy of Parliament; Brexit is something not to be undertaken without proper scrutiny, particularly given the misinformation that dogged the respective campaigns. It seems inevitable that it will go ahead, and in facilitating that May is doing no more than reflecting the will of the people democratically expressed. We live in interesting times.
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January 25, 2017 8:07am
- Longknives
  
  Dangerous times- Seems if ‘The Left’ don’t like a Democratic result they can howl and wail and potentially have it overturned?
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:10am
  - CrazyIvan
    
    It’s not about overturning the referendum result, though I’m sure that’s what some of the backers of the court action wanted.
    
    What the Supreme Court ruled was that Parliament passed a law in 1972 that created EU law as a source of British law. This is more than the UK simply having a treaty with the EU. As the Article 50 trigger is non-revocable, and there is no guarantee the Parliament will pass a Great Repeal Bill as planned, ministers cannot exercise the royal perogative to trigger Article 50.
    
    The referendum gave the political backing for a withdrawal from the EU – it was a political rather than legal effect. It did not change the law to allow Ministers to do so. The Court is saying that Parliament needs to pass a law to do that.
    
    Using the privatisation model, it’d be like the government selling off the SOEs without changing the SOE Act to allow the sales, simply because National won the election campaigning on that promise. Sometimes you have to catch up legally as well as politically.
    
    Importantly, the Court also ruled that it was solely a matter for Westminster. None of the regional parliaments (Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland) get a say.
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:40am
- ross411
  
  I disagree. The people had a chance to directly vote on a decision for the country, and the balance chose to leave. The parliament is there to serve the people, and a direct vote by the people should trump any chance for the parliament’s representatives of the people to have their say.
  
  At this stage, they’re irrelevant and for them to come first over the people’s choice, is dismissive of the people’s choice.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:20am
  - jonar
    
    Hmm, wonder what the views were here when the asset referendum was held?
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:35am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      You mean that referendum known as a general election in which the incumbent government campaigned on partial asset sell down?
      
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      January 25, 2017 8:40am
      - marquess
        
        No, the specific referendum on asset sales.
        
        Unless the nats had literally zero other policies that anyone would vote for. Which is it?
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:17am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Asset sale? Who retains majority shareholding?
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:55am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Marquess; What are your thoughts on Mayor Liane Dalziel’s asset sales in Christchurch?
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:57am
      - marquess
        
        Asset sale? Who retains majority shareholding?
        
        What point are you trying to make here? Assets, in the form of shares, were sold.
        
        Marquess; What are your thoughts on Mayor Liane Dalziel’s asset sales in Christchurch?
        
        I don’t live in Christchurch. Voters there can sort it out with that particular City Council.
        
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        January 25, 2017 10:06am
    - kowtow
      
      Or smacking or punishing criminals?
      
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      January 25, 2017 8:52am
    - labrator
      
      I would’ve voted if it was a binding referendum. The Government might also have tried to sell it again (you know after getting voted in with that as a policy) instead of just letting the protests go unanswered. It’s a bit like the whining about Clinton having “3 million more votes than Trump”. I would also win at Monopoly each time if I started with all the money.
      
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      January 25, 2017 8:56am
  - MCos
    
    It was a non-binding referendum
    Furthermore, as I understand the situation, the courts judged, that that the government cannot change a law, only parliament can do that.
    That’s why in New Zealand we don’t have, for example, nuclear powered ships visiting the country. It would require a law change and that would be too controversial at present.
    Smart bugger, that Lange.
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:28am
- G152
  
  The democracy bit to Brexit is done.
  The majority want out.
  Message to the sad sacks… Suck it up
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:27am
  - Fletch
    
    I wish they would/could. News just in today that the Supreme Court ruled that May cannot trigger Article 50 before it is OK by Parliament.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/24/supreme-court-brexit-ruling-parliament-vote-article-50
    
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    January 25, 2017 10:59am
  - GoVege
    
    Majority?
    What were the numbers again?
    
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    January 25, 2017 10:26pm
- Dave Mann
  
  Its not inevitable that Brexit will go ahead. Theresa May is probably in league with a team of Remoaners working in the background to come up with as many difficulties as possible. Troughing civil servants, useless parasitic ‘academics’ and a host of bureaucracy wankers will be frantically beaver in away to delay and obfuscate the people’s democratic choice at every turn.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:31am
Chuck Bird

Can anyone guess which judge had her sentence overturned?

Yasir Mohib jailed for 12 months for hammer attack on wife, after discharge without conviction overturned

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=11787603
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January 25, 2017 8:10am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Isn’t bigamy illegal in New Zealand?
  
  Mohib is legally married to the victim, with whom he has three New Zealand-born children, as well as a second “wife” whom he married in a religious ceremony.
  
  In May 2015, Mohib and his two wives were at home watching a movie. The victim asked Mohib why he was holding the other wife’s hand, but not hers.
  
  The other woman left the room and Mohib slapped the victim in the face, then punched her multiple times in the head.
  
  He told her: “We’ll finish this after the movie, don’t say a word.” After the movie ended Mohib grabbed a hammer and told the victim: “This is for you.”
  
  He hit her multiple times with blows to the arms and legs, leaving at least five large bruises.
  
  Of course, there is an added consequence to bigamy which is possibly worse than any legal consequence; you have two mothers-in-law 😎
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:27am
  - ross411
    
    Do you really think this man will tolerate being spoken to in a disrespectful way, by the mothers-in-law, or to put it another way women? He’s got plenty more hammers where that first one came from.
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:32am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Also very potent man, look how many boys he made with his hrum.
    
    They will all grow up to be good, Allah fearing New Zealanders.
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:43am
    - kowtow
      
      Look on the bright side.
      
      Won’t be long before have huge numbers of great cricketers, albeit bearded.
      
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      January 25, 2017 8:58am
      - cmm
        
        Sorry mate I have to disagree….
        
        Pakistan has a population of 182 million and they are about on par with NZ (population 4.5M) in terms of cricket.
        
        That means you need 40 times as many Pakistanis as Kiwis to generate a good cricketer.
        
        We’d need about 100 million of them to come here to make a difference: stephie’s wet dream.
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:14am
      - Kimbo
        
        Just one world class leg spinner would keep me happy. Mind you, Ish Sodhi (born in India) may yet become that.
        
        http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/559066.html
        
        Or, despite being 30 (admittedly when wrist spinners usually mature) Todd Astle, from the deepest depths of the sub-continent state of Canterbury via Palmerston North!
        
        http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/content/player/213674.html
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:19am
      - Longknives
        
        Pakistan have really dropped off in recent years- Compared to when I was a kid and they had Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Zaheer Abbas and co..
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:28am
      - Kimbo
        
        They have the equivalent of the French at rugby – often brilliant, always erratic despite having players who, in terms of raw talent, are often the best in the world. Imran was the only one who could get consistency out of them away from home (first time they beat England in a series in England was 1987), although Javed’s street-fighting instincts helped! They won the one day series in Aussie in 1996-97 (from memory), but could never win a test series there. A few umpires decisions in Hobart in late 1999 may have helped!
        
        You look at that team they had in the mid-1990s, Waqar, Wasim and Mushtaq as the attack, Amir Sohail, Saaed Anwar, Inzamam, Salim Malik (when he wasn’t taking bribes!), Shahid Afridi – should have dominated world cricket, no matter how good the Aussies were at the time.
        
        Plus they have the obvious problem now that they have to play home games in the UAE. Plus, let’s face it, Pakistan is a failed state and there is no such thing as normal sport in an abnormal society.
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:33am
      - Longknives
        
        Kimbo- Agreed re that Mid-90s Pakistan side as well.
        As for Inzy- That guy was one of the most naturally talented batsmen I’ve ever seen..Sadly his fitness and motivation let him down at times. He was like an elderly sloth running between wickets..
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:57am
      - Longknives
        
        I’ve often wondered why Pakistan churned out quality fast bowlers (Akram,Younis, Akhtar etc) but India never seemed to have any?
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:59am
      - Kimbo
        
        Physique plays a big part, I think. The further north you go in the sub-continent, the taller people get. So by the time to get to the Patans – from whom Imran Khan comes – they are the perfect build.
        
        Also, even though the pitches are often the same as India – dust bowls not conducive to seam bowling, the Pakistani quicks starting with Sarfraz Nawaz (ok he was medium-fast!) were the first to develop reverse swing, and also pitching the ball up to negate the slow wickets. With respect to the Windies of the 1970s and 1980s, their bowlers were bloody boring to watch in tandem – Malcolm Marshall coming around the wicket digging it into the batsmen’s ribcage for over after over in a battle of attrition. The way Wasim and Waqar used to pitch it up, look for the yorker and the edge was brilliant to watch and gave scoring opportunities.
        
        But India? I always remember John Wright’s amusing comment when, as NZ captain, on being asked before a test in Bombay by the media when he thought the spinners would come into the play. “I looked at the deck and felt like saying ‘in the fifth over on the opening morning’, but decided to be positive and say “at the end of the third day'”!
        
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        January 25, 2017 10:12am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        There haven’t been many better balls bowled in test cricket that Waqar’s express in-swinging yorker to Rod Latham in the Hamilton test many years ago. It was quite literally an unplayable delivery.
        
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        January 25, 2017 11:54am
      - Longknives
        
        Kimbo- Ask any of the poor bloody batsmen who had to face Malcolm Marshall at his peak if they found him ‘Boring’?
        
        Keeping Stock- How about Hadlee’s ‘Jaffa’ to Steve Waugh?
        
        Or even the ‘Gatting Ball’??
        
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        January 25, 2017 12:46pm
      - Kimbo
        
        No, Keeping Stock was right – best swinging yorker you ever saw. Context was everything. First ball, 150+kph, broke the stump. We were chasing 127 to win the test, and having been 39/3 overnight, we got to 64/3, and Wasim and Waqar had already bowled about seven overs on the trot.
        
        The Pakistani skipper, Javed, was asked afterwards, “did you think of bowling your leg spinner, Mushtaq” and he said “yes, but even though you were only three wickets down, really, against our bowlers you were six down”.
        
        And so it proved. Waqar and Wasim bowled right through the session, with increasing, not diminishing pace, ferocity and intensity, and once we lost Andrew Jones, they went through us like shit through a goose, all out for 93. The Latham dismissal summed the thing up. You could tell the dam had burst and every batsman who went in after him was scared witless. Best display of two fast bowlers in tandem I ever saw, and fit to rival Larwood and Voce, Lindwall and Miller, Lillee and Thommo. Greatness.
        
        http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/63597.html
        
        Yeah, facing Malcolm Marshall was not fun for batsmen. But still dull for the spectators. You also overlook that once Wasim and Waqar started playing in English county cricket, the sales of steel-capped boots for batsman soared! 🙂
        
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        January 25, 2017 12:59pm
    - RF
      
      With a bit of luck SBW could take them under his wing and mentor them. Giving them driving lessons in his BMW could soon be a problem.
      
      Oh how sad when you have dodgy friends.
      
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      January 25, 2017 1:02pm
    - GoVege
      
      And they probably watched dad bashing mum with the hammer.
      What a role model…
      
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      January 25, 2017 10:28pm
  - GoVege
    
    There are hundreds of MCPs practising de facto bigamy in our nation, courtesy of the generous Kiwi taxpayer.
    
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    January 25, 2017 11:40am
    - GoVege
      
      Some are even into trigamy and quadrigamy.
      Them there are the ones who trade in their wife and kid/s each year or two for a new model.
      They are often good catholics so don’t know about contraception.
      But who cares….the dumb taxpayers are picking up the tab.
      
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      January 25, 2017 11:49am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  I’m trying to get the details of this Sharia court in NZ. Can someone please give me the details of this wise judge? I need them on the NZ Islamic council.
  
  This is a breakthrough in our Jyhad to bring Sharia to NZ. Glorious times!
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:38am
  - GoVege
    
    Don’t forget it was that cheapskate Maggie Thatcher who first allowed sharia courts in Britain.
    She thought it would save precious tax dollars.
    Law of unintended consequences. ..
    
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    January 25, 2017 11:44am
- mandk
  
  Silly man. Hitting your wife with a hammer is un-Islamic.
  
  The Koran contains perfectly clear instructions on how you are to beat your wife.
  
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  January 25, 2017 9:39am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Well , the Koranic scholar that is Judge in New Zealand seems to think different.
    
    Are you saying you know better than a NZ Judge?
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:50am
    - GoVege
      
      There is a Koran scholar acting as a judge in God zone?
      Please name him.
      
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      January 25, 2017 12:52pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Well, one verse says you can use a green branch to beat your wife, but there is nothing specifically outlawing other objects with which to beat her.
    
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/wife-beating.aspx
    
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    January 25, 2017 10:03am
    - wiseowl
      
      Do they have equality.If one wife gets a beating surely the other one needs one for equalitys sake ?
      
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      January 25, 2017 10:20am
- GoVege
  
  Thankfully we have a few decent judges who can recognize a violent beating/ family violence when they see it.
  Hopefully these silly wives will have time while this pathetic bully is in prison to find out it IS possible to live without a violent husband.
  Unfortunately Cunningham is not the only judge to let dangerous men off the hook.
  My friend’s husband threatened to”smash her” with a hammer also.
  The judge ignored his long history of violence and found him not guilty.
  This guy has lived over 40 years in NZ, married all that time to a Pakeha teacher, but still utilized the services of a translator (at our expense).
  No doubt it helped project the image of a poor little P I guy, fresh off the boat and bamboozled by the bad Pakeha’s “fire water”.
  
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  January 25, 2017 12:48pm
  - starboard
    
    You seem to hang around the wrong sort, only recently you mentioned ” watching a pregnant woman friend get smashed in the face by her partner, she fell over and the baby died of brain damage later on ”
    
    Now this “My friend’s husband threatened to”smash her” with a hammer also.”
    
    I think you live in a fantasy land. Must be lack of meat.
    
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    January 25, 2017 1:07pm
    - GoVege
      
      Lots of horrible things go on that don’t make it into the news, Starboard, but if it makes you happy to believe it’s just my “fantasy”, feel free to kid yourself.
      BTW, that woman didn’t “fall over”..she lost her late term baby because her brute continued to beat her while pregnant.
      If it’s any consolation, these extremely violent men are from immigrant cultures.
      Males brought up in civilized western societies rarely use the degree of violence common in “developing” countries.
      I’m surprised this case of the Muslim hammerer even made it to court.
      Maybe their neighbors thought he was gonna kill her this time and called the cops.
      
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      January 25, 2017 1:59pm
      - starboard
        
        You must live in stiffybots beloved Mt Roskilldishu.
        
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        January 25, 2017 2:30pm
      - GoVege
        
        Nah Starboard, but I go there a lot.
        Saw some Muslims in their gear there today.
        I always swear at them but I don’t think they can understand English.
        
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        January 25, 2017 3:56pm
kowtow

The left wing media are pushing this “fake news” thing very hard.

But when they deliberately decline to describe the ethnic background or religious motivation of perpetrators or when they loudly claim to be Je Suis ,but don’t publish the cartoon , then surely they too are guilty of the “fake news” or “alternative facts” that they are now so fond and so loudly mocking.
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January 25, 2017 8:11am
Kiwiladdy

A Kiwiblog related question – is there a page where I can see my past comments?
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January 25, 2017 8:17am
- marcw
  
  The only way I know of is to make a search using your blog name. It’s not user friendly, and you still have to scroll through the whole comment thread to find your particular comment. You can search by ‘relevance’ or date – not sure that the first option is much use. Search link is near the top right next to the twitter symbol. Not the search symbol next to your login name above that.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:30am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Put the following into google:
  
  Your name site:kiwiblog.co.nz
  
  You can use google to search for any text in a single site using this method. It often works better than search engines provided by the sites themselves.
  
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  January 25, 2017 9:03am
- Fletch
  
  Up the top of the screen in the black bar, it will say “Howdy, Kiwiladdy” on the right side. To the left of that is a button with a speech balloon. I think it is supposed to allow you to see your comments, likes, unread and whatnot, but at the moment mine just has one of those circular “waiting” things going around like it is loading something….
  
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  January 25, 2017 11:03am
  - Kiwiladdy
    
    Ah, this looks like a much better answer. An email to DPF is in order 🙂
    
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    January 25, 2017 2:49pm
Tauhei Notts

Hey, you fellows, tell me if I am getting the wrong end of the stick.
When the Greens were vehemently against TPPA,
National Socialist Radio was also.
Now that the arch enemy, “The Donald” is against TPPA National Socialist Radio seem to endorse TPPA.
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January 25, 2017 8:18am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  One of life’s little mysteries.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:23am
- ross411
  
  This is happening across the internet. Where TPPA was railed against, now Trump giving it the heave-ho is railed against. The truly outraged have no discernable logic.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:23am
Rodney Randall

http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2015-03-31/islam-extremism-and-the-role-of-women
Islam, Extremism And The Role of Women.

Diane Rehm Show Interview
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Linda Sarsour

This interview gives a great insight into the workings of Linda Sarsour’s mind.

She states: “Islam is perfect”

This is one of the organisers of the women’s marches in America.

A complete kook.
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January 25, 2017 8:25am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  I agree with her very much.
  
  Look how many smart, independent women without any signs of insanity or deep psychological damage the march brought together.
  
  This woman is fighting the good Jyhad, may Allah bless her.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:33am
Padriv Ustoev

I still feel that the topic of domestic violence and polygamy in NZ has not been explored very well yesterday.

In Koran, it clearly states that you can beat your wives but not too much. (I usually use open hand. ). And you can have more than one wife. (I have seven) So that all makes sense.

But in NZ there are inconsistencies. I thought that you are not allowed to beat your wife, even gently with a hammer. (Backward country, not under Sharia yet.)
And you you cannot have two or more wives. Yet we have a judge that initially ruled in favor of the accused in the article below.

Is this some sort of new Sharia judge? Because if so I need to meet them right away and invite them to join the Islamic council of NZ.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11787603
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January 25, 2017 8:31am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I think you can legally have 2 or more wives in NZ, as long as the 2nd and subsequent marriages haven’t taken place in NZ.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy_in_New_Zealand
  
  (p.s.) Any chance soon of you chaps allowing me a couple more husbands?
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:38am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    What if your wife was gifted to you for achievement in camel racing? Wife 5 and 7 were gifts, is that allowed or do I need to declare them to IRD?
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:50am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      If one follows in absolute detail the publications put out by the External Reporting Board on Financial Reporting Standards, I think that wives 5 and 7 would be classified as “Non Financial Liabilities.”
      Accordingly they would be outside the definition of Variable Principal Debt Instruments, and the Inland Revenue Department would not require notification.
      
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      January 25, 2017 9:10am
- kowtow
  
  Padriv
  
  Thank you for posting that. Watching the video of the exotic man , his two wives , one completly covered and 5 children (no doubt many more on the way) really gave me the warm fuzzies and made me even more enriched by the diversity dividend that Islamic immigration has brought to multicultural Aotearoa.
  
  I was very dismayed that a higher court would over rule the sensible , kind and understanding District Court Judge Cunningham who discharged without conviction a brutal man who hit his wife with a hammer.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:49am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Get it right. He isn’t a brutal man and he didn’t hit her with a hammer.
    
    He’s a kind teacher and he was simply educating his wife on how to behave properly by stroking her with a hammer.
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:22am
    - GoVege
      
      Please don’t forget all the other wonderful cultures in our nation who believe in multi-gamy and gentle instructive chastisement with common household implements.
      I recall a court case of some years ago when a good Christian Samoan man came home late from the pub, bleeding from an altercation he had engaged in there.
      He was infuriated to discover his wife was asleep at 2 am, instead of waiting up to welcome him home with a hot toddy, and tend to his wounds.
      In his justified rage, he dragged her from the marital bed and administered a severe bashing.
      (No doubt aggravated from having lost the previous fight.)
      In court, his legal counsel defended him by informing the judge that beating your wife was a sign of affection in his homeland.
      The judge replied, he must have loved her very much indeed, to give her such a brutal beating.
      
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      January 25, 2017 7:23pm
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Also in in Urdu. Hammer is a euphemism for Hrum.
    
    But that was lost in translation I feel.
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:29am
- ross411
  
  This man has explored both polygamy and domestic violence, very well. Fortunately for him, he got a judge who was into that sort of thing. Unfortunately, he got another one who wasn’t.
  
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  January 25, 2017 9:14am
- cmm
  
  You can have many “wives” but only one legal wife.
  
  Basically it’s like having a longterm threesome (or eightsome in your case).
  
  Problems happen when the arrangement breaks up, either through death or divorce, the non-legal wives then do not have legal wife status. They can’t make claims for alimony etc. Wills need to be vey specific otherwise the legal wife gets it all.
  
  Of course the bloke is still on the hook for child support.
  
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  January 25, 2017 9:21am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    It’s more like a long term – when is it called when 14 women make violent “love” to your brain until you are ready to get the hammer?
    
    It’s like that.
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:38am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    The Aussies and Brits are finding it is cheaper to support one guy with his multiple wives under one roof, than outlawing polygamy… thereby forcing the multiple wives to set up separate households.
    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/centrelink-legalises-multiple-muslim-wives/news-story/35f49d0c38789e22e133d00c67e55899
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3414264/Want-higher-benefits-marry-one-wife-New-welfare-rules-hand-extra-taxpayer-cash-polygamists.html
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:48am
    - GoVege
      
      Surely it would be cheaper to just kick these neanderthals out?
      
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      January 25, 2017 11:56am
- GoVege
  
  Your post reminds me of an experience I had with our own NZ CYPF department.
  A 15 year old girl had gone to CYPF regarding her stepfather, who had been beating her for 9 years, including with the side of a machete.
  The social workers assigned to the case were too afraid of the stepfather to meet with him in their office and arranged for a “minder” to protect them.
  In the end they concluded the teen had to go back home, and he was allowed to keep beating her, but “not as hard” as previously.
  
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  January 25, 2017 7:34pm
Hugh Pavletich

MASSIVE GLOBAL MEDIA RESPONSE TO THIS YEARS DEMOGRAPHIA HOUSING SURVEY …

‘Severely unaffordable’: Sydney’s housing nightmare laid bare in new survey | Shanghai Daily

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/AustraliaPlus/Severely-unaffordable-Sydneys-housing-nightmare-laid-bare-in-new-survey/shdaily.shtml

… extract …

… Sydneysiders paying ‘four times’ too much

The report’s co-author, Hugh Pavletich, described Sydney’s housing issue as “remarkable”.

“Sydney is after Hong Kong, which is sitting at 18 times household earnings, as the second worst in the world so it’s just remarkable with so much land that Australia has got that it should have this problem,” he said.

“Sydney house prices are about 12.2 times annual household incomes which is grossly excessive.

“What housing should be in normal markets is at or below three times household earnings, so Sydney is four times what it should be.”

Mr Pavletich said decentralisation was also an issue. Of the 7.7 million people who call NSW home, more than 4.8 million live in the greater Sydney area.

“There is not enough decentralisation in Australia. State and local governments have lost the control of their costs and their capacity to finance infrastructure properly,” he said. … read more via hyperlink above …

Sydney’s housing market second most expensive in the world | Daily Mail Online

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4149942/Sydney-s-housing-market-second-expensive-world.html

Demographia in the news …

https://www.google.co.nz/?gws_rd=ssl#q=demographia&tbm=nws
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January 25, 2017 8:34am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Yawn…….
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:55am
- ross411
  
  Uh, thanks for stopping by and talking at us?
  
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  January 25, 2017 9:15am
- Keeping Stock
  
  <blockquoteThe report’s co-author, Hugh Pavletich…
  
  Ah, isn’t it refreshing to have Hugh commenting on something in which he doesn’t have a vested interest; oh, wait!
  
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  January 25, 2017 11:58am
Simon

TPP was the start of a political union. The trade side was incidental. National are not for free trade just see how they govern NZ with huge regulation and over taxation.

John Key had his tongue up Obama’s arsehole for eight years. Now that Obama is gone National’s international platform is in a mess.

National are confused and uncertain with the changing world.
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January 25, 2017 8:34am
- fernglas
  
  The interesting thing about the pin being pulled on US involvement in the TPP (is it final, or just a negotiating strategy?) is the fact that Australia is now openly embracing the idea of bringing China and/or Indonesia on board. ( See the Age; I don’t know how to paste addresses) In the Herald, English has said, in essence, that it’s fine for the US, who can sustain an internal economy, but not us; we need to trade. Given the new POTUS’ sabre rattling over China, both economically and politically, we may be seeing the start of much more contentious and partisan times along the west coast of the Pacific. Who will we side with, I wonder? I suppose it will be whoever offers us the most, and at the moment, that is not looking like our old ally.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:51am
  - wiseowl
    
    It’s all about open borders and free movement of people.
    Trumpy can see that but others tied up in the TPP still want to follow the one world line.
    
    Go Trumpy.
    
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    January 25, 2017 10:28am
  - Viking2
    
    fernglas. Just google your question. you will be given the answers very quickly.
    
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    January 25, 2017 7:12pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Simple Simon met a pieman going to the fair.
  Said the pieman to Simple Simon:
  “I see you’re spouting shit again.”
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:58am
  - Komata
    
    CM
    
    So erudite, so passionate, so descriptive; so ridiculous!!
    
    You KNOW you are capable of far better things…
    
    (Just saying…)
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:58am
Happychappy

The Herald definitely know how their opinion Journalist think before they employ them. They obviously think that people like to read columns penned by the left if you take pieces that have been published from Bryan Gould, Brian Rudman, Liz Marvel and Rachel Stewart over the last few months. But this mornings Column by Rachel Stewart takes the cake and she knows every thing from Donald Trump to Dirty Politics, and if you didn’t know she doesn’t like the Right in Politics this Column will tell you so.
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January 25, 2017 8:36am
- jonar
  
  No comment on any of the specific points she makes?
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:42am
  - labrator
    
    Ever since Rachel “no kidding… I want to break his little legs” Stew started proscribing violence I decided not to endorse her with page views or ad revenue. Is she so outstandingly informed that I’m missing something?
    
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    January 25, 2017 9:01am
- Longknives
  
  Is she any worse than Raybon Kan? That guy has seriously lost the plot..
  
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  January 25, 2017 9:25am
dime

The Don had another great day!

“Trump signs executive orders to advance Keystone XL, Dakota Access pipelines”

outfuckingstanding
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January 25, 2017 8:43am
- rangitoto
  
  Democrat donator Buffett will be upset that his train set will lose the associated oil transport business.
  
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  January 25, 2017 10:54am
- Jack5
  
  Does the Maori Party know about this? Does it know the haka squad will have to return to North Dakota?
  
  Tsk, tsk. Fancy Trump doing this just ahead of Waitangi Day.
  
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  January 25, 2017 11:07am
Albert_Ross

I see that the twitterati are in another outrage, this time over President Trump’s preventing US aid money from being given to charities that offer family planning advice and assistance to women in developing countries.

It seems to me that it would send a far more powerful message, and incidentally actually do something to help the women themselves, if everybody who hit the “dislike” button and thereby felt virtuous, instead (or as well, if you must) found out which are the charitable organisations in question, and made a donation to them.
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January 25, 2017 9:08am
- cmm
  
  I thought it was abortions – not family planning.
  
  This does not stop the private charities from focusing on providing abortions if they want to.
  
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  January 25, 2017 10:47am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    No, it doesn’t. That is my point. Instead of twittering and faffing on facebook because other people are no longer being forced to contribute to these charities, the outraged would make their point far more powerfully, and actually do something to help, if they actually donated their own money themselves
    
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    January 25, 2017 11:52am
- Fletch
  
  It’s called the Mexico City law, and every Democrat president repeals it, and every Republican president brings it back (since Reagan).
  
  It requires foreign non-governmental organizations to not provide or promote abortion services if they receive funds from the U.S. government. Specifically, the funds would come from the United States Agency for International Development, and abortion cannot be presented as a “method of family planning.” Promoting abortion services includes work such as counseling for women that includes language on abortions.
  
  The policy was named for Mexico City because it was announced at the United Nations International Conference on Population in that location.
  
  It was signed into law by former President Ronald Reagan and went into effect in 1985.
  
  The policy stayed in effect until 1993, when it was rescinded by former President Bill Clinton. Since then, it has been reinstated by every Republican president and rescinded by every Democratic president within their first few days in office. Obama rescinded it exactly eight years ago, on Jan. 23, 2009.
  
  Obama’s statement when he repealed the policy read, in part, “It is clear that the provisions of the Mexico City Policy are unnecessarily broad and unwarranted under current law, and for the past eight years, they have undermined efforts to promote safe and effective voluntary family planning in developing countries. For these reasons, it is right for us to rescind this policy and restore critical efforts to protect and empower women and promote global economic development.”
  
  The presidents previous to Obama who took actions on the policy signed them on Jan. 22 of their respective years, which is the anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision. Some noted in 2009 that Obama likely waited a day on purpose due to the anniversary, though Obama never confirmed or denied that.
  
  The order does provide exceptions in cases of rape, incest or life-threatening conditions.
  
  Critics of the policy refer to it as the “Global Gag Rule,” and the U.S. has been unsuccessfully sued over the policy by those who say it limits freedom of speech.
  
  The policy creates legal problems for organizations in certain countries, such as South Africa, where the groups are legally required to inform a woman seeking an abortion of her rights and refer her to a facility that would perform an abortion.
  
  Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article128191744.html#storylink=cpy
  
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  January 25, 2017 11:15am
Manolo

The future of the Democratic Party:
https://news.grabien.com/story-dnc-chair-candidates-bash-white-people-racially-charged-foru

The event’s moderator, MSNBC’s Joy Ann Reid, asked the candidates how the party should handle the Black Lives Now movement.

The candidates uniformly emphasized that the party must embrace the activists unreservedly. “It makes me sad that we’re even having that conversation and that tells me that white leaders in our party have failed,” Brown said. “I’m a white woman, I don’t get it. … My job is to listen and be a voice and shut other white people down when they want to interrupt.”
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January 25, 2017 9:26am
- dime
  
  they have gone full retard
  
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  January 25, 2017 9:31am
Manolo

Is stephieboy gone to Mecca to reload on anti-Trump propaganda?
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January 25, 2017 10:03am
- kowtow
  
  No need. The Saudis spend millions sending their imams to the west to make it easier for the stephies of this world.
  
  Now there’s a story our fearless MSM could do rather than obsessing about The Don, fat chance.
  
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  January 25, 2017 11:11am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Stephieboy is on the naughty chair for 1 week.
  
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  January 25, 2017 11:15am
  - Viking2
    
    Ain’t it great. so peaceful and quiet.
    
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    January 25, 2017 7:13pm
  - Andrei
    
    When did he get the “time out”?
    
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    January 25, 2017 7:29pm
SPC

President Trump is a threat to internet neutrality.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-38727781
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January 25, 2017 10:29am
- Jack5
  
  It’s been inevitable that big commercial users such as Netflix would some day have to pay more.
  
  Just like road user charges make trucks pay more for road upkeep.
  
  Perhaps the Net has been neutral because for a long time there wasn’t technology for prioritising traffic.
  
  Loss of neutrality doesn’t necessarily mean that free uses such as email and non-video (etc) traffic are slower than gigabit hogs like video. Just that the hogs will help pay for expanding and maintaining the pipes.
  
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  January 25, 2017 11:05am
  - SPC
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/60140705/google-fades-in-fight-to-save-open-internet
    
    http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/closing-time-for-the-open-internet
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/09/19/world-wide-web-inventor-lashes-out-at-internet-fast-lanes-its-bribery/?utm_term=.83eb5b6ceb39
    
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    January 25, 2017 11:31am
Manolo

The Trump derangement syndrome reaches peak levels:
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/could-ralph-lauren-be-facing-a-boycott-after-dressing-melania-trump/ar-AAmaPUZ?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignout

Melania Trump wore a blue Ralph Lauren dress for the inauguration, and some people aren’t pleased with the designer.

“We immediately started to get complaints about Melania Trump wearing [the label],” an anonymous Ralph Lauren source told Glamour.

Would they do the same to Marie Antoinette’s designer?
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January 25, 2017 10:59am
SPC

Time to move to

1. a New Zealand Day (June 30) and official commemoration of Matariki (Maori new year anywhere between late May and June – a safe time for public fireworks).

The New Zealand Constitution Act 1852 was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that granted self-government to the Colony of New Zealand. The long title of the Act was “An Act to Grant a Representative Constitution to the Colony of New Zealand”. The Act received the Royal Assent on 30 June 1852.

2. Summer (school) holidays in February. After a short Christmas New Year break (just over a week). Primary and secondary schools starting around the time of university.
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January 25, 2017 11:16am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Summer (school) holidays in February.
  
  That means exams would be in January, with the kids studying for them over Christmas and New Year.
  
  Honestly, after one bad summer (they happen every once in a while), there’s this desire to completely reorient how kids go to school? Total madness, in my opinion.
  
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  January 25, 2017 1:11pm
  - SPC
    
    The exams would be in December, rather than November. Start a month later, exams a month later ….
    
    And its not just this year, the summer weather does not settle until February.
    
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    January 25, 2017 1:28pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      The exams normally last about a month. How would you fit all of them them in before Christmas and not shorten the school year? And then what is the point of going back to school in January?
      
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      January 25, 2017 1:45pm
      - Andrei
        
        We could start the school year in September like the Northern hemisphere does
        
        It would work then
        
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        January 25, 2017 7:30pm
- Jack5
  
  Matariki – as a public holiday? The Maori Party didn’t get far with that suggestion in 2009 with their Te Ra o Matariki Bill/the Matariki Day Bill.
  
  The Social Justice Warriors would probably want, before that, 19 September holidayised to mark NZ women getting the vote.
  
  And this “Maori New Year” held around June because it’s safe for fireworks? Maori flew kites as Matariki fun, didn’t they? What fireworks did they have apart from gunpowder for their muskets? (And this came with colonisation and Westernisation.)
  
  The Matariki holiday suggestion contradicts your statement, “time to move on”. Whoops, “time to move to” – well that roughly implies “time to move on”.
  
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  January 25, 2017 1:26pm
  - SPC
    
    I suppose you do not use gas bottles for the barbie on Feb 6 coz Maori did not have them in 1840 or have a beer because Maori did not have hops …
    
    A New Zealand Day separate from Waitangi Day, is coming. The Crown recognition for our parliament is a sound base for this.
    
    Maori would have little quibble over this development if it came with Matariki being given official recognition.
    
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    January 25, 2017 1:38pm
  - Jack5
    
    Making Matariki a national holiday would also have the problem of setting the right date.
    
    Not all tribes marked the New year with “matariki”, which means something like “two eyes” and refers to the rising of the stars known to most of the Western world as the Pleiades.
    
    Some tribes marked the New Year with the appearance of Puanga (Rigel, the brightest star in Orion) in the evening sky.
    
    Some tribes did mark the new year by the appearance of Matariki-Pleiades just before dawn in late May or early June, but some others celebrated it at the first new moon, or full moon, after the rising of Matariki-Pleiades.
    
    Matariki celebrations seem to have pretty much died out, but about 15 years ago a revival was led by the Maori Language Commission, the Ministry of Education, and Te Papa museum.
    
    SPC suggests a second National day (second in addition to Watangi Day) should be Matariki.
    
    That could easily become like a double Waitangi Day – two chances for Maori to err their grievances and rough up politicians. More of a second “Maori day” than a “New Zealand Day” (you can bet there would be a drive to have it called Aotearoa Day).
    
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    January 25, 2017 1:55pm
    - Longknives
      
      I don’t mean to be rude but-
      
      Did Maori really have a New Year? Really??
      Those warring Stone-Age Cannabalistic Tribes who hated each other had a shared Calendar??
      
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      January 25, 2017 4:37pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Um, you are surprised that a society that depended on seasonal activities had a method for marking the seasons?
        
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        January 25, 2017 4:41pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The Maori Year
        http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-BesTime-t1-body-d1-d1.html
        
        From:
        The Maori Division of Time
        http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-BesTime-t1-front-d5.html
        
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        January 25, 2017 4:48pm
    - Jack5
      
      Whoops and sorry: My earlier post on Matariki included this and I correct it:
      
      That could easily become like a double Waitangi Day – two chances for Maori to ~~err~~ air their grievances and rough up politicians.
      
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      January 25, 2017 9:03pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  For goodness sake, have you city folks forgotten that kids are needed out in the paddocks all January for hay-making?
  
  They can go back to school when the hay is in!
  
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  January 25, 2017 4:38pm
Fletch

Watch this black guy “Big Joe” give women’s march protestors a piece of his mind. He doesn’t start out to (he tells the interviewer he is just “passing through” and has nothing to do with that march), but when he is confronted by one of the protesters he really gets going – wow. He also gives them a little history lesson about Planned parenthood and Margaret Sanger.

https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/videos/828052167332680/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
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January 25, 2017 11:17am
- SPC
  
  Loved the line, by protesting they are inviting martial law (by standing up to a man women are asking for it – angry rant tone to his diatribe against their political correctness). When he himself then tries to use Sanger’s association with eugenics to discredit planned parenthood and its supporters (being a black man playing the race card to embarrass white women).
  
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  January 25, 2017 12:05pm
EAD

Protesting against White Genocide is now officially a “hate crime”:

https://mobile.twitter.com/morgoth_rev/status/823977496781746176

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/racist-stickers-will-removed-after-12495662
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January 25, 2017 11:26am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Probably because there is no actual “genocide”.
  
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  January 25, 2017 1:15pm
- BeeSting
  
  Multi Culturalism is not what you think it is
  
  MULTI CULTURALISM IS WHITE GENOCIDE
  
  AND ANY ONE WHO CAN’T SEE THAT IS A RETARD
  
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  January 25, 2017 10:03pm
Manolo

It must be all those violent Lutherans and Anglicans:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/terrorism-soaring-number-attacks-rise-9684557

Global terrorism is soaring with the number of attacks increasingly rapidly by more than 25% every year.
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January 25, 2017 11:40am
JasonJohns

Snowflake alert in Germany
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/18/afd-politician-says-germany-should-stop-atoning-for-nazi-crimes
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January 25, 2017 11:47am
Manolo

A big economy and hugely viable country, but will they secede?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-californians-dreaming-country-without-trump-poll-192311764.html

One in every three California residents supports the most populous U.S. state’s peaceful withdrawal from the union, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll, many of them Democrats strongly opposed to Trump’s ascension to the country’s highest office.
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January 25, 2017 11:55am
- Rich Prick
  
  Fine. But cut off the water to ensure complete independence.
  
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  January 25, 2017 12:49pm
JasonJohns

‘by protesting they are inviting martial law’

They are. Trump’s not going to allow the indefinite disruption of major transport routes by those with a political agenda.
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January 25, 2017 12:14pm
- SPC
  
  Not his call, these are roads within cities within states. And on the coasts with Democrats in charge.
  
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  January 25, 2017 12:25pm
JasonJohns

‘these are roads within cities within states’

Main disruption was in Washington DC – a federal city. Trump has the moral right and the authority to declare martial law there if the enemies of democracy continue to inflict economic sabotage by blocking roads. Bottomline: man in Fletch’s video is correct in warning these protesters that they are risking martial law.

We all know what the army has the right to do during a state of martial law, don’t we?
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January 25, 2017 12:45pm
- SPC
  
  The POTUS does not govern DC, there is a Mayor.
  
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  January 25, 2017 12:53pm
JasonJohns

‘The future of the Democratic Party’

DP has no future now Trump has made it clear the party stole 3-5 million votes. Roll on the prosecutions. With corruption on that scale the DP will be lucky to have a single rep in DC.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/24/trump-tells-congressional-leaders-3-5-million-illegals-cost-him-popular-vote.html
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January 25, 2017 12:53pm
- SPC
  
  How many believed him?
  
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  January 25, 2017 12:54pm
Manolo

Wait for the howls of condemnation:
President Donald Trump was expected to sign several executive orders restricting immigration on Wednesday, at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, according to several congressional aides and immigration experts briefed on the matter.

Trump’s orders were expected to involve restricting access to the United States for refugees and some visa holders from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen, said the aides and experts, who asked not to be identified.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-trump-expected-sign-executive-orders-immigration-230259644.html
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January 25, 2017 1:02pm
JasonJohns

Trump wouldn’t allege 3-5 million votes were stolen without evidence. What would his motive – he’s already won by the constitution. He’s sending the DP to jail, en masse. Wait for the prosecutions to roll…
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January 25, 2017 1:02pm
- SPC
  
  A fan of the style of fellow satirist Padriv Ustoev?
  
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  January 25, 2017 1:09pm
- Gabby
  
  Course he would, the cuck soccer. You know that deep down in your jermy jocks.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:36pm
JasonJohns

‘President Donald Trump was expected to sign several executive orders restricting immigration from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen’

Good start. Not as good as deporting every non-Christian Arab and Persian from the USA. But Rome wasn’t built in a day…
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January 25, 2017 1:10pm
JasonJohns

SPC instead of being snarky why don’t you turn on your TV. Sean Spicer is making announcements about the 3-5 million stolen votes. Trump’s not backing down on this one.
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January 25, 2017 1:12pm
- SPC
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38731191
  
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  January 25, 2017 1:24pm
starboard

The day can’t come soon enough that the UN is put under the spotlight by Trumpy. Cut the funding Trumpy..cut the funding. Oh happy day.
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January 25, 2017 1:17pm
- SPC
  
  Can a nation cuts its funding and retain its veto on the UNSC?
  
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  January 25, 2017 1:25pm
  - starboard
    
    Trumpy will find a way Im sure, especially when he finds out how much the US puts in each year.
    
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    January 25, 2017 1:38pm
JasonJohns

Yes bulldoze the NYC UN. Make them rebuilt it in Yemen. But just as importantly reject the fiction of globalism but deporting all Arab, Persian and African interlopers regardless of whether they have citizenship or not. Citizenship given under the presidencies of traitors like the Kenyan and Clinton has no validity.

Not saying that Trump will do this yet. By the time of a second term, though, Americans will have realised that decisive action by the state against globalism really is possible. Small steps first.
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January 25, 2017 1:22pm
Fletch

Paul Joseph Watson on the Left allying with Islam etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3NDeyR_1-U

Great, as usual.
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January 25, 2017 1:27pm
JasonJohns

‘Can a nation cuts its funding and retain its veto on the UNSC?’

Boohoo. Trump doesn’t need a veto like his cuckservative predecessors – he can just mount a nuke missile to a drone and then fire it into the relocated UN HQ, if he feels like objecting to a vote!
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January 25, 2017 1:29pm
- Gabby
  
  Cuck soccer, your jermy jocks have some funny ideas.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:34pm
JasonJohns

Paul Watson great as usual Fletch?

Check your head.

This is a guy who disses the alt-right, ignoring the fact that Breitbart gave Trump the White House, then puts out pro-Osama conspiracy theories about 9/11 being an inside job. http://911blogger.com/topics/paul-joseph-watson
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January 25, 2017 1:37pm
Jack5

Interesting stuff about Gina Miller, the woman who obtained the High Court ruling that Parliament must vote on Brexit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4154094/What-s-truth-Gina-Miller.html
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January 25, 2017 2:40pm
waripori

Trump cant defeat Isis. Only Moslems can defeat ISIS albeit with some judicious military advice. All ISIS wants is an apocalyptic battle with Rome to bring on the end of days. As soon as the West goes to war against them they have achieved their objective and probably rallied most of Islam behind them.

The only way to keep the US safe (and probably NZ as well ) is to have the Moslem nations unite against ISIS and that is roughly where we are now. Trump says his main foreign policy objective is to defeat ISIS but his first move looks to be shifting the US embassy to Israel to Jerusalem. If he wants to give ISIS a leg up and encourage governments to give them a safe haven that would just about do it.
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January 25, 2017 2:46pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Yeah but you know how we Muslims are.
  
  We will defeat ISIS and then someone will get upset and form a new Super-ISIS and then we are back to square 1 but with a better more organized Islamic terrorist organization.
  
  #SISIS
  
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  January 25, 2017 3:21pm
  - Gabby
    
    Come on, I know you’re just looking for a nice boot to lick.
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:33pm
- Longknives
  
  Disagree- The West could easily annihilate ISIS if they cast aside Political Correctness and put their minds to it..
  
  Problem is- Another whackjob Islamic group will crawl out of the rubble..
  
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  January 25, 2017 4:33pm
RF

All is good in the world and I shall sleep soundly and safe in my bed tonight.

That puffed up preening peacock Peter Dunne has written an open letter to President Trump pointing out his unsuitability to be President.

FFS
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January 25, 2017 3:11pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Trump wondered out loud: Who?! And from where?!
  
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  January 25, 2017 3:32pm
- Andrei
  
  That pompous little man has no personal insight whatsoever
  
  He has been in Parliament how long?
  
  (The answer is 37 years)
  
  And has achieved what?
  
  ?????
  
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  January 25, 2017 3:41pm
  - Working Class Bigot
    
    You’re right. That pompous little man has achieved nothing in all his time in Parliament. He will only be remembered for his grease-stain political pliability.
    
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    January 25, 2017 5:42pm
  - Jack5
    
    Thought Possum Dunne would have texted President Trump from his cellphone …
    
    Oh, that’s right, I forgot. Mrs Dunne confiscated it.
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:52pm
- Manolo
  
  You must be taking the piss, must’nt you?
  
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  January 25, 2017 3:44pm
  - Andrei
    
    Read it in all its glory
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1701/S00086/dunne-speaks-congratulations-mr-president.htm
    
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    January 25, 2017 3:50pm
    - Manolo
      
      Oh dear, what a monumental imbecile this MP is!
      Full of belief in his insignificant person and with a temerity to match. A grade A++ moron.
      
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      January 25, 2017 3:55pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Our political charlatans and snake-oil merchants will be watching you closely over the next few months
      
      There he goes, talking in the third person again. What a puffed up, pretentious, inconsequential waste of space. Open letters are supposed to show the world just how cleaver you are. They can also show the world what a wanker you are.
      
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      January 25, 2017 4:00pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        *clever* autocorrect is thy enemy today.
        
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        January 25, 2017 4:08pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Dunne is probably just trying to get noticed by his constituency in Maungaraki, etc, so he gets voted back into Parliament. Doesn’t matter to him if he annoys the rest of us and even President Trump.
  
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  January 25, 2017 4:10pm
- fernglas
  
  A puffed up preening peacock has dared to criticise another? What is this world coming to?
  
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  January 25, 2017 7:19pm
JasonJohns

Dunne’s a globalist from way back.
He voted for TPPA FFS!
Of course he hates Trump, who is kicking globalism, ‘free’ trade and the leftist multiculti neoliberal order into touch.
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January 25, 2017 4:00pm
JasonJohns

‘Trump cant defeat Isis’

Nukes on Muslim cities can. I hope Trump is reading the Jawa Report’s battleplan:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/049078.php
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January 25, 2017 4:05pm
JasonJohns

A more sophisticated version of the argument for nuking Mecca is made by Vernon Richards: http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/VernonRichards50806.htm
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January 25, 2017 4:07pm
rightoverlabour

I suspect the Pope may come to like Trump as he and his government act to reduce the murder of unborn children. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/24/rep-steve-king-files-federal-pro-life-heartbeat-bill-if-a-heartbeat-is-detected-the-baby-is-protected/
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January 25, 2017 4:09pm
JasonJohns

In case the idea that Trump might seek to reduce the theological viability of Islam and blunt the enemy’s demographic advance by hitting Mecca and other key citadels of evil with nuclear weapons seems far-fetched, just consider – why are Dems trying to pass legislation to get the Trump finger off the nuke button, by banning unilateral nuclear strikes without congressional approval. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/24/dems-propose-taking-trumps-finger-nuclear-trigger/

They know the Don has an itchy trigger finger where the enemy is concerned. And they know that by making congressional approval necessary for a nuke strike they will make successful nuclear warfare virtually impossible – they will take away the element of pre-emption that is so vital to military success with any sort of weapon.

This’ll be an early test of the Republican Party. Traitors like McCain will try to side with the DP. Trump needs to make the case for the president’s right to nuclear pre-emption. Huge battles lie ahead.
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January 25, 2017 4:19pm
- Gabby
  
  You could offer your jermy jocks for an aerial assault on Mecca.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:30pm
Captain Mainwaring

The National rejuvenation continues.
Jo Goodhew has pulled the pin because she got demoted from Ministerial rank.
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January 25, 2017 4:29pm
- itstricky
  
  rejuvenation
  
  When does it stop being rejuvenation and start becoming capitulation?
  
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  January 25, 2017 9:43pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Turn down the volume if you’re listening to the Concert Programme.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/88761839/west-coast-neighbours-at-war-over-excessive-classical-music

The rest of us don’t want to listen to “opera screeching” and “high-pitched squealing”.
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January 25, 2017 5:14pm
JasonJohns

‘Jo Goodhew has pulled the pin’

Nats need to replace her with someone with balls. Pun intended.

Suggestions:

David Garrett
David Round
Tim Wikiwhiri
John Ansell
Bruce Moon
Bruce Logan
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January 25, 2017 5:52pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Are any of those you mentioned actually members of the National Party?
  
  And John Ansell? You must be kidding!
  
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  January 25, 2017 6:53pm
Nookin

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11788682

My goodness. New Zealand is the least corrupt country in the world. That will really grind Penny’s gears. That sort of achievement deserve some recognition. Maybe she should pay her rates.
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January 25, 2017 5:58pm
Keeping Stock

Seen this Kiwibloggers?

NZ has improved from being the fourth least corrupt country in the world to be joint top with Denmark.

25 January 2017

New Zealand is ranked the least corrupt country in the world in a new report, jumping three places from last year.

The annual Corruption Perceptions Index by Transparency International gave New Zealand a score of 90 out of 100 for 2016, ranking it alongside Denmark in top spot.

Last year it ranked fourth with a rating of 88 after previously heading the league table.

The index ranks 176 countries on a scale of zero to 100. Somalia is at the bottom of the list, scoring just 10.

Justice Minister Amy Adams said it was encouraging to see New Zealand reclaim the top spot, having held it for eight of the last 10 years.

“The result reflects New Zealand’s zero-tolerance of bribery and corruption, and affirms our reputation as world leaders in this area,” she said.

Ms Adams said the government had implemented a number of anti-corruption initiatives, including new bribery offences and increased penalties, fast-tracking a second phase of anti-money laundering reforms and ratifying the United Nations Convention Against Corruption.

LEAST CORRUPT COUNTRIES

1= New Zealand 90

1= Denmark 90

3 Finland 89

4 Sweden 88

5 Switzerland 86

6 Norway 85

7 Singapore 84

8 Netherlands 83

9 Canada 82

10= Germany 81

10= Luxembourg 81

10= UK 81

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=241497

Penny can rest peacefully now (and pay her rates); her work as a self-appointed “anti-corruption watchdog” is done.
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January 25, 2017 6:01pm
- stigie
  
  But, but, but, what about all those corrupt contractors KS that supply their services to the Auckland Council..?
  
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  January 25, 2017 6:09pm
  - nasska
    
    The injustice of it. She got permission from council to address them on the subject……even bought a new hat for the occasion. (on reflection she might have just scraped the roadkill off the old one).
    
    Then Keeping Stock goes & pisses on her parade! 🙂
    
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    January 25, 2017 6:15pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      I watched this video from start to end – and you can imagine my surprise when Phil Goff asked for two counsellors to move a vote of thanks for Penny.
      
      Yes, Phil, let’s thank Penny for pissing all over long-suffering Auckland ratepayers who just want the rule of law to be applied to Penny in the same way that it applies to them.
      
      Oh and there was one other laugh-out-loud factor for me when watching the video: Stephen Town sitting next to Phil Goff. I wonder if Mr Town asked Penny for an update on her defamation lawsuit against him?
      
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      January 25, 2017 8:33pm
      - nasska
        
        You didn’t actually watch the whole video did you Nostra? It must be the legal training that has turned you into a stoic.
        
        I skipped the bit between 0:05 & 17:59 but I don’t feel that I’ve missed a great deal. Especially after reading the comments. eg:
        
        …..”omg she is awesome the passion is in the face
        “…..
        
        AND
        
        …..”Not heard of this woman before. What a star! Thanks for sharing this. “…..
        
        They live, breathe & breed amongst us! 🙂
        
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        January 25, 2017 8:53pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        You didn’t actually watch the whole video did you Nostra?
        
        Well, in my defence, I had a coffee and muffin!
        
        As for the comments, I quite liked what DizzyWillow had to say:
        
        People like “Penny Bright” (lol) tend to find themselves on crashing planes, cars without brakes, very aggressive cancers, etc. No wonder she adopted a stage name.
        
        Now, if Penny Bright is just a stage name, would the real Penny please step up and introduce yourself!
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:01pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I don’t believe this. We are most definitely becoming more corrupt due to the growth of overbearing land use and building regulatory bureaucracies (hearing of incidents from friends) and Maori appeasement industry. Too much power in the hands of corruptible apparatchiks.
  
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  January 25, 2017 6:12pm
- reid2
  
  So if Sweden’s so incorrupt how come her women are being attacked, barbarians are not only at the gates but inside the town square, and none of her “incorrupt” authorities are doing a fucking thing about it? While the “incorrupt” media pretend that whenever it happens – again – it’s a Swede what dun nit.
  
  How come all of that is really truly indeed yes it is, happening, if Sweden isn’t corrupt?
  
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  January 25, 2017 6:30pm
- Gabby
  
  Munter McMutton paid good money for that rating.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:21pm
JasonJohns

How can we be least corrupt when we have Allan Titford serving 24 years in prison for revealing the truth about ancient NZ and the Littlewood Treaty?

Nelson Mandela only served 2 more years.
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January 25, 2017 7:06pm
- B.L.Zeebub
  
  Must be a full moon tonight,the fucking loons are out.
  
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  January 25, 2017 7:29pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Don’t mind you picking up my line Zeebub because I agree with you.
    
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    January 25, 2017 7:50pm
Viking2

United Future leader Peter Dunne ‘congratulates’ the new American President – and draws some parallels to New Zealand and the upcoming election.

What a great lot of dribble. Past Dunne time. Out with Goodhew.

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/85645/united-future-leader-peter-dunne-congratulates-new-american-president-and-draws-some
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January 25, 2017 7:21pm
Captain Mainwaring

Shit, for a newbie here JasonJohns has a Hell of a lot to say.
I might get the time to read some of it one day.
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January 25, 2017 7:25pm
- mikenmild
  
  Might be one of our old troll friends under a new name
  
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  January 25, 2017 7:55pm
  - nasska
    
    I was thinking the same thing Mike but the style doesn’t remind me of anyone in particular.
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:04pm
  - EAD
    
    I find Jason Johns very refreshing and quite an informative point of view.
    
    Obviously there are many around here, especially the likes of yourself who don’t want to have people thinking about and discussing the Littlewood Treaty would they hence you need to slander him.
    
    Personally, I think it would be great if it was revealed to us the text of the English version of the Treaty but what you’re afraid of is that the organised plunder of NZ would then stop and the whole edifice of lies built on the back of bullshit history would collapse in on it own weight.
    
    “You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide”
    
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    January 25, 2017 8:12pm
    - mikenmild
      
      No surprises that a racist crank like you would also buy into the ‘Littlewood Treaty’ bullshit.
      
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      January 25, 2017 8:41pm
      - EAD
        
        “No surprises”…….
        “racist”…..
        “crank”….
        “Littlewood Treaty bullshit”….
        
        Some little snowflake needs a safespace 🙂
        
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        January 25, 2017 8:50pm
      - itstricky
        
        Some little snowflake needs a safespace
        
        At least his safe space ain’t hobsonspledge.nz
        
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        January 25, 2017 9:41pm
nasska

I used a public toilet today and there was a handwritten sign on the top of the hand dryer.

It read, “Press button for a short speech from Andrew Little”.
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January 25, 2017 8:02pm
- Gabby
  
  You were so enraged you used your hand rather than defile your arse.
  
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  January 25, 2017 8:55pm
Manolo

Trump threatens Chicago’s Democratic mafia:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/25/trump-says-will-send-in-feds-if-chicago-doesnt-reduce-homicides.html
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January 25, 2017 9:20pm
Manolo

For a moment I thought it could be our own stephieboy:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/24/the-source-of-salacious-claims-in-trump-dossier-has-been-identified/
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January 25, 2017 9:23pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3NDeyR_1-U

“The Left & Islam: Unholy Alliance”

Paul Joseph Watson

Feminists chanting Allahu Akbar.

Incredible stuff;)
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January 25, 2017 9:37pm
- Manolo
  
  Incredible indeed. The oppressed cheer the oppressors.
  
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  January 26, 2017 6:14am
Manolo

A good omen for President Trump:
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/01/25/dow-hits-20000-for-first-time/

The Dow Jones Industrial Average just powered through the 20000 level for the first time ever, setting an all-time intraday high three trading days after the inauguration of Donald Trump. Moments after the open, the Dow shot up to 20033.77.

The new record comes as stocks have been on the rise for much of the past three months, finding fresh legs since Election Day to add to one of the longest bull-market runs in U.S. history. The Dow industrials closed under 18000 as recently as Nov. 4, but have risen 12% since then.
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