General Debate 21 January 2017

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SPC

Obama has delivered a final act as President and some prisoners serving life sentences for non violent drug use crimes will now get released. They include a man sentenced under three strikes law. Possessing marijuana, then cocaine, then for dealing cocaine.
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January 21, 2017 10:34am
- rightoverlabour
  
  No problem with someone serving life for dealing cocaine. Dealers should be shot.
  
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  January 21, 2017 10:36am
  - SPC
    
    Whom of those involved in cocaine dealing in Auckland recently do you think should die, all of them?
    
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    January 21, 2017 10:40am
    - Kimbo
      
      Not dime’s dealer. I would miss his manic cocaine-inspired insights, written in the third person here on Kiwiblog! 😉
      
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      January 21, 2017 10:44am
      - GoVege
        
        You fellas are hilarious!
        
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        January 21, 2017 12:12pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      Yup, Drug dealers destroy lives, destroy families, and communities. How many people have suffered because of P induced rage or dangerous driving. THe only difference between shooting somebody or introducing them to drugs is the speed at which they die.
      
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      January 21, 2017 10:50am
      - SPC
        
        Medicinal marijuana?
        
        Addictive substances include nicotine, but no one dies because they use it. It’s the tobacco carcinogen that kills them.
        
        Difference between alcohol use and social marijuana use is …
        
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        January 21, 2017 10:53am
      - redeye
        
        So you’re not great believer in personal responsibility then rightoverlabour?
        
        I’m not a fan of class A drugs but the only person to blame is the person consuming the stuff.
        
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        January 21, 2017 11:44am
rightoverlabour

Trump has been inaugurated and the sun has risen. I though it was the end of the world listening to all the snowflakes….. Uk Guardian is in full meltdown, not bothering with Stuff or Herald, etc, reports. Hopefully this is the begining of the end of the PC reign of terror….
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January 21, 2017 10:34am
- Paulus
  
  Now the New Zealand so called media can switch their attention to English and the election.
  The Union strikes have already started – Angry will assist their continuation up to the election but will fail to see that it will only piss off voters against Union Labour and the Greenpeace Party.
  Bring it on.
  
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  January 21, 2017 10:43am
- PhilBest
  
  From what quarter do you see “…the beginning of the end of the PC reign of terror…” coming in NZ?
  
  Who is the NZ Trump who is going to stand up and say the Emperor has no clothes, on CAGW and its industry, on The Treaty and its industry, on the eco-Taleban industry, on the Councils and bureaucracies re-running failed 20th century experiments in central planning, on nuclear Ludditism, on multiculturalism and immigration standards, etc? And like Trump, take on the MSM and its millions of gallons of ink, with outrageous twittering?
  
  I could name several wannabes who are not that at all. And anyone with the right instincts is waaaay out on the political fringe right now. I mean people like John Ansell and Lindsay Perigo and Peter Cresswell. Even Rodney Hide and Don Brash are way closer than anyone in National, or Winston, or Gareth. Bob Jones is probably too old and actually doesn’t want to give it a crack anyway, with a probably accurate judgement that NZ does not have the same potential for an electoral majority to be aroused.
  
  Therefore I gloomily conclude that the PC reign of terror is not going to end in NZ. The consensus of outrage over Trump epitomises our condition.
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:41am
  - stephieboy
    
    “PC reign of terror is not going to end in NZ. ”
    
    Your date of execution decided ?
    
    https://image.slidesharecdn.com/thereignofterror-160805051554/95/the-reign-of-terror-french-revolution-17931794-1-638.jpg?cb=1470374285
    
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    January 21, 2017 12:27pm
mandk

Wow, those poll results from yesterday!

They must be about the 50th rogue findings in a row.
What are the chances of that?

Andrew Little needs to release his internal polling results on a regular basis, so we can all know the truth.
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January 21, 2017 10:38am
- Paulus
  
  Trump’s opinion poll is at a low 40%
  How Angry would love to be at half that !
  
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  January 21, 2017 10:45am
UrbanNeocolonialist

Melbourne car attack driver identifies as Greek Muslim Kurd.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4138790/Pram-dragged-100-metres-Melbourne-street.html
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January 21, 2017 10:39am
- VicParking
  
  He could have been wearing a Burka and had a AK47 strapped to his back and the powers to be in Aus would have still said its not a terrorist action.
  “Just a typical nutcase no issues here.”
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:10am
  - PhilBest
    
    “A fugitive from police following a stabbing incident”. Very convenient. So if Mohammed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi had stabbed someone first, they too would have been “fugitives from police following a stabbing incident”.
    
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    January 21, 2017 11:44am
- stephieboy
  
  Dimitrious Gargasoulas.?
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:41am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    ..who (self) identifies as a Greek Muslim Kurd.
    
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    January 21, 2017 1:23pm
- fernglas
  
  That is one seriously mixed up fucker; three religions and two races in one.
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:43am
  - PhilBest
    
    All that remains for him to do now is “come out”as gender confused, and get a taxpayer-funded s*x change op.
    
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    January 21, 2017 11:46am
  - stephieboy
    
    Bourke Street driver identified as James ‘Jimmy’ Gargasoulas.
    
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    January 21, 2017 11:56am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  So he’s not an Australian, then?
  
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  January 21, 2017 6:50pm
mandk

C list celebrity (world famous in Llandaff) snubs Trump: http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/88642375/charlotte-church-to-march-with-antitrump-activists-after-snubbing-inauguration-invite

I bet he’s scared.
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January 21, 2017 10:41am
- Tarquin North
  
  She should go all out and carry Lizzie Marvelly on her back – that’ll fix him!
  
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  January 21, 2017 10:46am
- G152
  
  I see deportation in the wind for her 🙂
  
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  January 21, 2017 12:22pm
  - MCos
    
    Pretty hard to deport her from the UK seeing as she was born there.
    
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    January 21, 2017 8:20pm
- RF
  
  Potty mouth church. She is as loose as a goose.
  
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  January 21, 2017 12:48pm
- Longknives
  
  Is that the same Charlotte Church who was slagging off NYC Cops and Firefighters after the 911 Terrorist Attacks?
  
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  January 21, 2017 6:57pm
Captain Mainwaring

Three potential Labour candidates in the news in the last day or so. Ex Police association guy O’Connor and two women, one having a crack at Nelson and another for New Plymouth. All of them unionists.
Obviously this is Angry’s new strategy. A unionist coming to a town near you.
Manna from Heaven for National’s campaign strategy.
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January 21, 2017 10:44am
- VicParking
  
  He can now see everything in a new light since he got his contact lenses.
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:06am
  - RalphT
    
    I have heard of actors getting blue contacts for a particular role but it seems Andy has taken it a step further and gone for rose coloured contacts to help him with his vision for the future.
    
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    January 21, 2017 12:15pm
Happychappy

Don’t you find it ironical that the people marching in todays love Trump hate event and protest in NZ are the same people that created hate on John Key in his years of Prime Minister. Jacinda Adern, Julie Anne Genter, Ally Mau and Nicky Hager have all reverted to the now doing to Donald Trump what has been normal to them over the last eight years in NZ.
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January 21, 2017 10:50am
- Chuck Bird
  
  You mean some of the people marching. People have different reasons for not liking Key. I don’t but I am not anti-National. I think so far Bill English has done a pretty good job.
  
  What I think is ironic is for senior MPs of parties that hope to be part of the next government to bad mouth the President of the USA. While they are in opposition Trump will take little notice.
  
  Many on this blog think Merkel was mad letting in hordes of Muslims knowing some would be terrorists. Bill English may think the same. However, it would not be in NZ’s interest to say so.
  
  I wonder if Annette King will join the march. I presume Andrew Little won’t. If he was any sort of leader he would pull him MPs into line.
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:22am
  - Kimbo
    
    Speaking of pulling people into line, Chuck, I note, despite calling me out twice, you have not, after two days, replied yet to the reciprocating challenge in my response:
    
    Chuck Bird
    
    Kimbo, Okay you show us the quote. Stop making things up.
    
    January 19, 2017 4:45pm
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    Chuck Bird
    
    Please show us the quote.
    
    January 19, 2017 4:44pm
    
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    Kimbo
    
    So to be clear, you want a direct quote and/or source summarising John Key that, in context, means that his promise was always provisional on the Crown-acknowledged experts determining it was safe to undertake a rescue and/or recovery?
    
    If I do, – and bear in mind this is not the first time you’ve demanded and received answers from me, but not reciprocated when the tables are turned….do you solemnly promise not to post on Kiwiblog on this topic again?
    
    Seems like a fair trade. Well?
    January 19, 2017 4:51pm
    
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/labour_promises_to_weaken_health_and_safety_laws.html
    
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    January 21, 2017 11:37am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      Kimbo, If you really are so keen on demanding answers from someone and them not being satisfied with their answer become a lawyer.
      
      Just because I ask someone for a source does not give them or you the right to demand answers that satisfy you.
      
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      January 21, 2017 11:50am
      - Kimbo
        
        No, you didn’t ask. You demanded – “you show us the quote”. No question mark there. And now you are evading the challenge.
        
        So to summarise, you are a gutless hypocrite.
        
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        January 21, 2017 11:53am
  - Happychappy
    
    Andrew Little is to busy trying to achieve a class of Union ex leaders from the province’s to join Michael Woods, the new ones looking to be part of keeping Andrew as leader and creating the power for Union control are Greg O’Connor, Rachel Boyack and Angela Roberts will know doubt help with the rolling strikes that are apparently planed leading up to the Election this year.
    
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    January 21, 2017 11:43am
  - Happychappy
    
    Chuck what should Winston do with Tracy Martin as she has also marched and does not respect the President Donald Trump. He like Andrew Little is no where to been seen when his MP shows lack of respect for another country’s Leader.
    
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    January 21, 2017 4:19pm
VicParking

Global warming has struck again.
Biggest snowfall ever in the Sahara.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4140326/Sahara-Desert-hit-biggest-snowfall-living-memory.html
Snow falls on Southern alps in January.
Coldest 19th January since Muldoon had his last drink and Winston said anything sensible.
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January 21, 2017 11:02am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Winston stopped saying anything sensible when he was viciously struck by a bauble he was desperately trying to avoid.
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:11am
  - G152
    
    Elderly politician knocked out of his Zimmer frame by a carelessly directed bauble…
    Oh the humanity
    
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    January 21, 2017 12:26pm
- Lance
  
  FFS VicParking
  Been done to death a trillion times
  
  More boring than the US election results.
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:12am
  - VicParking
    
    Thanks Lance
    Fabulous, Funny and Stupendous.
    
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    January 21, 2017 10:22pm
- SPC
  
  AGW has an impact on weather patterns – it in fact can drive Arctic weather southward over Europe (and northern Africa), northern Asia and Americas each winter. Thus extreme weather events would unfold more often.
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:32am
  - PhilBest
    
    Yeah, everything is proof and nothing is disproof, how convenient, and how (((((((scientific))))))))
    
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    January 21, 2017 11:49am
    - SPC
      
      Take your pick of articles on this topic – Arctic weather driven southward .
      
      https://www.google.co.nz/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_en-GBNZ423NZ423&q=AGW+and+Arctic+weather+coming+southward
      
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      January 21, 2017 11:54am
      - PhilBest
        
        Don’t you understand: I was not saying the phenomena does not exist: I was just saying that like all other phenomena, it is “proof of” CAGW; nothing will ever be interpreted as “proof against”.
        
        I do not believe for a moment that this particular phenomenon has not ever occurred before in the history of the planet, or that civilisation in the 20th century onwards is “the cause”.
        
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        January 21, 2017 3:36pm
- Viking2
  
  😆
  
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  January 21, 2017 3:24pm
Longknives

I’ve read some ridiculous rants about Trump recently but this one just about takes the cake-

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/us-election-2016/88642095/phil-quin-trumps-ultranationalist-speech-dashes-hopes-of-those-who-didnt-support-him

Lindbergh was a WW2 Pilot? Who knew??
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January 21, 2017 11:24am
- Longknives
  
  Same writer berates Trump for not knowing his ‘History’ a few sentences later…
  God the Left are a disgrace!
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:36am
  - Gabby
    
    Not so knowledgeable yourself are you.
    
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    January 21, 2017 10:02pm
- Kimbo
  
  Seems he was, although your point is noted as it is a bit like saying Don Bradman once won the South Australian squash championship, or that, by the way, Paul McCartney was in another band before Wings.
  
  After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Lindbergh sought to be recommissioned in the USAAF. The Secretary of War, Henry L. Stimson, declined the request on instructions from the White House.
  
  Unable to take on an active military role, Lindbergh approached a number of aviation companies, offering his services as a consultant. As a technical adviser with Ford in 1942, he was heavily involved in troubleshooting early problems encountered at the Willow Run Consolidated B-24 Liberator bomber production line. As B-24 production smoothed out, he joined United Aircraft in 1943 as an engineering consultant, devoting most of his time to its Chance-Vought Division.
  
  The following year, Lindbergh persuaded United Aircraft to designate him a technical representative in the Pacific Theater to study aircraft performances under combat conditions. Among other things, he showed Marine pilots how to take off safely with a bomb load double the Vought F4U Corsair fighter-bomber’s rated capacity. At the time, several Marine squadrons were flying bomber escorts to destroy the Japanese stronghold of Rabaul, New Britain, in the Australian Territory of New Guinea. On May 21, 1944, Lindbergh flew his first combat mission: a strafing run with VMF-222 near the Japanese garrison of Rabaul. He also flew with VMF-216, from the Marine Air Base at Torokina, Bougainville. Lindbergh was escorted on one of these missions by Lt. Robert E. (Lefty) McDonough, who refused to fly with Lindbergh again, as he did not want to be known as “the guy who killed Lindbergh.”
  
  In his six months in the Pacific in 1944, Lindbergh took part in fighter bomber raids on Japanese positions, flying 50 combat missions (again as a civilian). His innovations in the use of Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighters impressed a supportive Gen. Douglas MacArthur. Lindbergh introduced engine-leaning techniques to P-38 pilots, greatly improving fuel consumption at cruise speeds, enabling the long-range fighter aircraft to fly longer range missions. The U.S. Marine and Army Air Force pilots who served with Lindbergh praised his courage and defended his patriotism.
  
  On July 28, 1944, during a P-38 bomber escort mission with the 433rd Fighter Squadron, in the Ceram area, Lindbergh shot down a Sonia observation plane piloted by Captain Saburo Shimada, Commanding Officer of the 73rd Independent Chutai.
  
  After the war, while touring the Nazi concentration camps, Lindbergh wrote in his autobiography that he was disgusted and angered.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lindbergh
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:45am
  - Longknives
    
    I see Stuff have ‘Edited’ it today…
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/us-election-2016/88642095/phil-quin-trumps-ultranationalist-speech-dashes-hopes-of-those-who-didnt-support-him
    
    The 21 year-old Sub Editor must have looked up Lindbergh on Wikipedia…
    
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    January 22, 2017 8:54am
srylands

http://i.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/life-style/drive/88156447/Top-cop-wants-to-raise-speeding-fines-says-they-re-too-low

So the approach to road safety is not working but let’s double down on it.
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January 21, 2017 11:39am
- PhilBest
  
  When is this ongoing travesty going to get reigned in by a government minister with some integrity?
  
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  January 21, 2017 11:53am
- cmm
  
  It’s bullshit really…
  
  Our road safety laws are generally working. Except for last years there has been a steady progress downwards from around 700/year to around 300/year.
  
  A lot of last year’s uptick can be explained by the increase of 30 deaths (from 60 to 90) where the person was not wearing a seat belt.
  
  Since the highest demographic for road deaths correlates with the highest suicide demographic (young males with no passengers) one must ask how many of the uptick in road deaths are really suicide by car.
  
  Slight speeding is not dangerous as out cars have got better and road conditions have generally improved. Outrageous Mallard’s-mate style driving is.
  
  If they want to focus on speeding fines, then do so for 120kph+ speeding – particularly in built up areas.
  
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  January 21, 2017 12:04pm
  - Viking2
    
    I’m a bit more comcerned about the cars that are catching fire. Two today.
    
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    January 21, 2017 3:41pm
cmm

“Trump protestors”

C’mon MSM call them what they are: scummy rioters.

What the fuck is it with the left: don’t like a democratic outcome so they smash up private property and riot.

What the hell does that achieve?

Protest is fine, but attacking people and property is not.
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January 21, 2017 12:08pm
- Huevon
  
  A bunch of sad losers acting like, well, sad losers.
  
  All the people I know that are anti- Trump are brainwashed young “go grrl” women, mentally ill or on the Left’s payroll (unionists, teachers, NGO types). They have no power over us anymore. It is glorious.
  
  Make America (and NZ) Great Again!
  
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  January 21, 2017 12:16pm
waikatogirl

I agree. Burning city property in the street amongst some of the shit the Trump protesters pulled.

Had a little chuckle when it became apparent the protesters didn’t get inside a 7 city block perimeter of the Presidential celebrations.
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January 21, 2017 12:11pm
publicwatchdog

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How corrupt is New Zealand?

(The 2016 Transparency International ‘Corruption Perception Index’ will be published on 25 January 2017.)

But how is this – for NZ corruption ‘reality’?

Seen this?

https://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/50DBSCH_SCR6208_1/2064c8e8f81a4…

“The Finance and Expenditure Committee has considered Petition 2011/101 of Penelope Mary Bright and 13 others, requesting

That the House conduct an urgent inquiry into why New Zealand Auditor-General Lyn Provost did not disclose that she was a shareholder in Sky City Entertainment Group Ltd at the time she declined to conduct an urgent investigation into the failure of the Organised and Financial Crime Agency of New Zealand to carry out “due diligence” on the increased risk of money-laundering arising from the New Zealand International Convention Centre (Bill) 2013.

We have no matters to bring to the attention of the House. ”
________________________

Time for the House to include the proven ‘anti-corruption campaigner?

I think so.

Penny Bright

2017 Independent candidate
Mt Albert by-election.
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January 21, 2017 12:26pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  None so corrupt as one who preaches anti-corruption at the same time as refusing to pay her rightful dues to Auckland Council.
  
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  January 21, 2017 12:41pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
    What’s your understanding of the word ‘corrupt’ Captain?
    
    Kind regards
    
    Penny Bright
    
    Future Independent MP for Mt Albert.
    
    🙂
    
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    January 21, 2017 1:51pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Applying in your case, theft of services paid for by your fellow citizens.
      
      kind regards
      Captain Mainwaring
      Future King of the Universe
      
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      January 21, 2017 2:12pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Future Independent MP for Mt Albert.
      
      More “political satire” from the rates-dodging Ms Bright.
      
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      January 21, 2017 9:49pm
  - Manolo
    
    How is the German mecenas doing?
    
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    January 21, 2017 3:43pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I think it’s awfully corrupt to steal Council services, what say you Penny?
  
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  January 21, 2017 1:34pm
  - publicwatchdog
    
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    I believe in my lawful rights to transparency when it comes to the spending of public monies on private consultants and contractors.
    
    Don’t you Rich Prick?
    
    If so – what are YOU doing about it?
    
    Kind regards
    
    Penny Bright
    
    Future Independent MP for Mt Albert.
    
    🙂
    
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    January 21, 2017 1:50pm
    - KevinH
      
      It’s not your money the council is spending.Your refusal to pay your rates excludes you from any discussion concerning expenditure of public monies.You don’t have a stake in that discussion.
      
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      January 21, 2017 2:32pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      I don’t intend doing anything about the voices in your head you mad woman.
      
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      January 21, 2017 5:03pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray and Walk Away
  Rubbish stays
  I walk away
  
  2017 Independent Candidate???
  Nope – just a dependent bludger
  
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  January 21, 2017 5:17pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.facebook.com/itvnews/videos/10154458386677672/

An anti-Trump protester screams ‘no’ as Donald Trump is sworn in as the 45th President of the United States.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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January 21, 2017 1:12pm
- PhilBest
  
  Let this guy do it for you:
  
  Henry Davis’ reaction to Trump being elected president
  
  https://www.facebook.com/libertyheadquarters/videos/vb.330201017032791/1349919105060972/?type=2&theater
  
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  January 21, 2017 4:12pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    That’s 20 upticks OK
    
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    January 21, 2017 5:21pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Very good 🙂
    
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    January 21, 2017 5:21pm
KevinH

The irony is that the protestors at the Trump inauguration would complain if their candidate had her day disrupted by protest.They would probably blame Putin.
Also what the protest reveals is the fascist streak in US politics where it is ok to challenge a democratic result with protest and rioting.
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January 21, 2017 1:35pm
Manolo

A generous disgraceful:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/01/20/obama-ranks-high-among-u-s-presidents-for-granting-clemency-infographic/#35cb23255bc9
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January 21, 2017 2:02pm
Ross12

One of the other first things the Trump team did was to return Churchill’s bust to the White House.
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January 21, 2017 2:10pm
- gump
  
  Nice story – pity it isn’t true.
  
  Obama confirmed that the bust of Churchill was outside the Oval Office and that he saw it every day:
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/22/barack-obama-winston-churchill-bust-oval-office-britain
  
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  January 21, 2017 3:53pm
  - Ross12
    
    Well I was going by a Telegraph report
    
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/21/donald-trump-returns-winston-churchills-bust-oval-office/
    Take your pick on who you believe Guardian or Telegraph.
    
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    January 21, 2017 5:15pm
- Gabby
  
  One of the first things Woss did was spout Chumpist bullshit.
  
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  January 21, 2017 9:58pm
macdee

David, can you put up the piece you liked by Brendan O’Neill on Trump, it explains a lot
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January 21, 2017 2:42pm
Inandout

NZ women march against Trump, how terrifying for the US.
A case of the mouse that roared.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/88642615/new-zealand-leads-global-marches-in-defence-of-womens-rights
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January 21, 2017 3:30pm
- kowtow
  
  RNZ “news” led with this propaganda saying NZ was the first in the world to…..
  
  ……wow .
  
  Mouse that roared?
  
  More like a bunch of whinging pussies.
  
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  January 21, 2017 4:56pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  What a bunch of losers.
  
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  January 21, 2017 5:24pm
- BeeSting
  
  If they do not like Trumps america may
  be they should leave NZ and go to Saudi
  Arabia sell up and go buy some property
  in Communist China
  
  LEAVE AND TAKE ALL THE ISLAMOFASCISTS
  with them
  
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  January 21, 2017 8:45pm
- MCos
  
  Interesting you should belittle New Zealand’s standing with the US like that. They certainly come grovelling round looking for our support every time the want to bolster their foreign interventions
  
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  January 21, 2017 9:14pm
Manolo

Did you say mouse because of the whiskers of some of the people concerned?
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January 21, 2017 3:45pm
BeeSting

HELLO ISLAMOFASCIST SCUM
OF DORK LAND

one of your disciples has out done him self
Finally a piece of SH*T Scum has done the Deed in Melbourne

Failed pipe bombing a woman fun run for cancer
Failed ANZAC days attack
Failed Xmas Day Attack

FINALLY

Running over children in prams

Screaming A ll a h akhbaar

Which we all knows means
MY BRAKES ARE NOT WORKING

Link to article

http://newobserveronline.com/melbourne-car-ramming-terrorist-muslim-kurd/
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January 21, 2017 3:50pm
Manolo

Deranged:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/bourke-street-mall-driver-identified-as-james-jimmy-gargasoulas-20170120-gtvs2m.html
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January 21, 2017 3:56pm
- nasska
  
  ….”Deranged:”….
  
  That about sums it up Manolo. It does however beg the question of why so many of these headbangers from the ME turn out to be porangi.
  
  What do you reckon? Is it the prayer, the goats milk, the camel piss or are they just pathologically uncool in the head?
  
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  January 21, 2017 4:42pm
  - mikenmild
    
    That’s a Greek name, isn’t it?
    
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    January 21, 2017 4:51pm
    - nasska
      
      According to various reports he was a Muslim, Kurd & from Greece.
      
      http://newobserveronline.com/melbourne-car-ramming-terrorist-muslim-kurd/
      
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      January 21, 2017 5:06pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I’m not sure I’d believe anything from ‘The New Observer’…
        
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        January 21, 2017 5:09pm
      - nasska
        
        Far be it from me to dictate what you should believe but type “Gargasoulas greek kurd muslim” into Google & there’s at least two pages of reports from various sources.
        
        Pick one that suits your bias.
        
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        January 21, 2017 5:13pm
      - cha
        
        Dollars to donuts Dimitrious Gargasoulas is as mad as a hatter.
        
        THE man who allegedly drove a car through a crowded Melbourne shopping district on Friday, killing four and injuring at least 20, claimed to be “god himself in a human bodily form” in a series of unhinged Facebook postings leading up to the attack.
        
        Windsor man Dimitrious “Jimmy” Gargasoulas, 26, originally from Coober Pedy in South Australia, posted a Facebook message on January 1 declaring that, “Illumamati are a whole bunch of dogs … I found out”.
        
        http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/rampaging-melbourne-drivers-troubling-facebook-posts-revealed/news-story/9f31c53361bee9ce2ab4982a496a9c5d
        
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        January 21, 2017 5:22pm
      - Reid
        
        Yeah there’s an entitlement mentality in his eyes. mm can’t see it because all he sees is pain and all he wants to do is provide a full wrap-around service for the victim.
        
        But those of us who understand humans and life, see it straight away, don’t we.
        
        You look at the attitudes of the European immigrants and you see the same thing. Thing is, distinct from our own people who have this disease, these dudes extend their entitlement mentality to mean they are entitled to do anything to anyone anytime, and that’s the diff.
        
        And still, mm and his ilk, don’t see it.
        
        Aren’t lefties stoooooooooooooooopid.
        
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        January 21, 2017 5:23pm
  - BeeSting
    
    REMEMBER SCUM LIKE HIM GET ALL THE
    PRIVILEGES OF AN AUSS PASSPORT
    BEFORE KIWIS
    
    REAP WHAT YOUR SOW A R S E TRALIA
    
    NOW TO BE RENAMED
    
    LAND OF THE DICK HEADS
    
    AUSTRALIA HAS IMPORTED RETARDS
    LIKE THIS ONE BY THE THOUSAND UPON THOUSAND AND GIVEN THEM PASSPORTS
    
    MORE OF THIS B U L L S H I T
    is COMING TO NZ
    
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    January 21, 2017 8:53pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      His mum is Tongan.
      https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/34240931/die-in-hell-mother-of-alleged-rampage-driver-tells-of-her-shame/#page1
      If he’s from Coober Pedy, he will most likely have been born in Oz.
      Most Greek families in Coober Pedy arrived in the 1960-70s when Opal mining really took off.
      
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      January 21, 2017 9:15pm
Reid

Former Newspaper Editor Who Exposed CIA Found Dead
Former editor of largest newspaper in Germany revealed the CIA pays journalists in Germany, France, Britain, Australia and New Zealand to plant fake stories – and the CIA is trying to bring war to Russia

The video in this link below is well worth watching.

http://yournewswire.com/german-newspaper-editor-exposed-cia-dead/

We are the Death Merchant of the World | Lawrence Wilkerson, Ex-Bush official

https://geopolitics.co/2017/01/18/we-are-the-death-merchant-of-the-world-lawrence-wilkerson-ex-bush-official/
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January 21, 2017 4:57pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  This is the janitor cleaning up the mess of Clinton/Obama
  
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  January 21, 2017 5:55pm
Reid

Amazing what the US can do when it tries, isn’t it.

Too bad it’s only just started, isn’t it.

Imagine if Russia had done this.

Think the US media would cover that?

Yet here is RT, that some hallucinate is mere state propaganda.

Perhaps they’ll say this is just propaganda too.

Aren’t some people stoooooooooooooooooopid.

https://www.rt.com/news/374512-us-strike-qaeda-killed/
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January 21, 2017 5:10pm
Reid

Obama presidency ‘shameful’ and ‘ridiculous,’ top Russian official says

Of course it was.

The only people who don’t see this are lefties.

What is wrong with them?

The Russian Foreign Ministry has accused outgoing US President Barrack Obama’s administration of promising a “respectful” cooperation between Washington and Moscow, but pursuing a master-slave approach in reality.

“It is worth recalling that it was Barack Obama who, at the beginning of his first term in 2009, proclaimed the restart with Russia and the development of comprehensive relations. At some point, we managed to conclude a number of important bilateral agreements, including the CIS agreement in 2010,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Zakharova said at a press conference in Moscow on Thursday.
She added, “However, our partners could not manage it for long. Promising verbally to cooperate in a respectful way, in reality, Washington had an interaction like a master and slave in mind. And that is exactly the way the White House used to do business and cooperate with Western European countries.”

“The behavior of the Obama administration looks so ridiculous and so shameful for such a great country as the United States… We sincerely regret that the presidency of Barack Obama, especially his second term, was a period of missed opportunities for bilateral relations,” the senior Russian official pointed out.

She expressed hope that the incoming US administration led by Donald Trump would “show wisdom and focus on a normal pragmatic dialogue.”

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/01/20/506935/Russia-Zakharova-US-Obama-administration-shameful-ridiculous
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January 21, 2017 5:17pm
dave_c_

For all you Obama, Clinton and Neocon lovers – This summary of 884 instances where Obama flouted laws, lied, eroded the constitution and generally behaved like a Dictator

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/10/28/special-report-the-complete-list-of-barack-hussein-obama-scandals/
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January 21, 2017 5:19pm
- Reid
  
  For all you Obama, Clinton and Neocon lovers
  
  The roaringly funny thing is, these idiots don’t even know that together with buying the Obama or Clinton package, they’re also buying the neocons. These fools don’t even know their choice is therefore responsible for millions of murders.
  
  As I keep saying, with example after illustrated example, lefties are either dumb or evil, there is no third alternative.
  
  Aren’t lefties stooooooooooooooooopid.
  
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  January 21, 2017 5:25pm
Longknives

I’m confused..

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11786289

So a 64 year-old American can just waltz into New Zealand and stay here for as long as he likes? Seemingly just because he doesn’t like the newly DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED President?

Or are the Herald just talking shit as usual? *I note nobody has put their name to this ‘story’..
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January 21, 2017 5:57pm
- srylands
  
  I looked this guy up. He said in another interview he is coming for 6 months and then will reassess. So I think he will be entering as a tourist. At 64 he won’t be moving here as a resident unless he has shit loads of money.
  
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  January 21, 2017 6:07pm
  - Longknives
    
    So the Herald are talking Utter Bullshit as usual?
    
    Why are NZ Media never held to account for their ridiculous lies??
    
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    January 21, 2017 6:44pm
- jonar
  
  Did you see he once did an unfavorable review of “The art of the deal” and President Snowflake sent a letter demanding he be fired?
  
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  January 21, 2017 6:12pm
Reid

US debt soars 86% under Obama presidency to nearly $20 trillion

https://www.rt.com/business/374384-obama-administration-us-debt/
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January 21, 2017 6:32pm
- BeeSting
  
  BORROW MONEY GIVE TO CHINA
  TO BUY NZ AND AUSTRALIA
  
  THAT WAS OBUMA ECONOMIC
  COMMUNIST POLICY
  
  WHEN CHINA STRONG AND RICH ENOUGH
  
  COMMUNIST ORC ARMY ALIGNED WITH ISLAM TAKES OUT |
  
  AMERICA AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND
  
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  January 21, 2017 8:49pm
Viking2

Is there an Airbnb pop-up brothel in YOUR street? It’s more likely than you think as foreign gangs take advantage of the boom in short-term lets to sneak vice dens into genteel neighbourhoods

Police warning owners of rental properties to be on their guard against brothels
Sex workers are hiring holiday homes as a base from which to sell their services

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4142150/Foreign-gangs-sneak-vice-dens-neighbourhoods.html#ixzz4WMNDuPkh

Takes weekend rentals to a whole new dimension. 😆
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January 21, 2017 7:08pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Whew, you had me worried reading that first paragraph……until I got to genteel….
  
  I’m safe….
  
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  January 21, 2017 7:53pm
  - nasska
    
    I know where you’re coming from Maggy.
    
    There are parts of Masterton’s East side where the siting a well run brothel could only improve property values. 🙂
    
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    January 21, 2017 8:16pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      There are advantages in living in the midst of pyromanical mobsters.
      
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      January 21, 2017 8:21pm
Viking2

Oh and the socialists are alive in well in DPF’s place of abode.

A 30-point plan presented to city councillors in September proposed regulatory, and non-regulatory, options that would require residents to seismicly secure their home. It also proposed making it compulsory for new houses to be built with solar panels, emergency water tanks.

Wellington homeowners could be forced to spend thousands removing chimneys, reinforcing piles and installing emergency water tanks under new earthquake regulations that could be fast-tracked by the city council.

A raft of proposals to future-proof the capital against earthquakes have been on the drawing board since September as part of the council’s city resilience plan.

But after Wellington was hit badly by the magnitude 7.8 Kaikoura earthquake on November 14, the council’s disaster planners are looking to speed up the introduction of new building regulations.

Next month, the council’s recovery manager Mike Mendonca will present an adjusted draft plan to the council’s city strategy committee.

“There has been a seismic shift in our thinking around resilience and this is a new blueprint for resilience in the city, and a massive opportunity for us to improve the city for future generations,” he said.

The council has the power to create bylaws using the Building Act and Resource Management Act, but may also need new Government legislation to come up with some rules.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/88574449/wellington-considers-new-earthquake-laws-that-could-cost-homeowners-thousands

So even though some of those building have been there for say 120 years without falling over these turkeys want the owners to spend up large.
Can’t imagine that they will get a ratepayer subsidy. (and the shouldn’t but then they should not be rail roaded by a council that actually can predict shit all. (like Christchurch).
Of course it should be encourage as that makes sense but compulsion???
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January 21, 2017 7:14pm
nasska

If you ever feel that your life is meaningless & pointless just remember there’s someone out there fitting indicators onto BMWs.
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January 21, 2017 7:32pm
Viking2

Massive numbers of people are expected to gather for the Women’s March on Washington, but they’ve started the celebration early on flights chock full of attendees en route.

One Southwest crew lit up their plane cabin in pink. But even plenty of pink pussyhats—the unofficial accessory of the march—were proudly on display on other flights.

http://mashable.com/2017/01/20/planes-full-nasty-womens-march/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link#Ol.3mCWz7SqA

all bloody menopausal.

God help Washington.
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January 21, 2017 10:33pm
Nookin

I wonder if someone in the media might just stumble across the notion that the media’s constant, relentless and opinionated diatribe against Trump will only make him more popular –just as it got him elected.

Who really gives a tinker’s arse whether Trump made the grade as a dancer???

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/us-election-2016/88648889/the-trump-trot-scores-low-with-kiwi-dance-judges
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January 21, 2017 10:46pm
Manolo

The MSM is soiling its pants:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/before-trump-was-sworn-in-people-were-betting-on-impeachment/
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January 22, 2017 5:47am
Manolo

Sir Winston is back:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/20/president-trump-returns-bust-churchill-oval-office/

On his first day in office, President Trump brought back a bust of the legendary British prime minister to the West Wing, after President Obama had removed it. Mr. Obama replaced it with a bust of Martin Luther King Jr.
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