General Debate 8th December 2016

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Souvlaki

Dear National Party Caucus

When you sit down to choose your new leader, please use your brains, and do not capitulate to mob thinking. Utterances reported in the press from many of you thus far, suggest this is a “done deal” and that Bill English is the anointed one….Mondays election merely a formality to rubber-stamp this decision.
Although many of you will disagree, and it is certainly “unfashionable”to say so, Don Brash and Cameron Slater are IMO correct, the BEST candidate is Judith Collins.
Why do you imagine the Press/ Red Radio etc…all union dominated are adamant that it should be Bill and not Judith? Why in God’s name was Hager interviewed in the first place on RNZ and then his rubbish reported as Gospel? You are all being played for suckers….please deliberate VERY carefully before voting !
Next year you will certainly experience a withering/nasty election campaign, probably like none before if Brexit and the Clinton/Trump war are pointers. All the nastiest arseholes in the country will be gunning for you…think Dotcom, Hager et al etc etc .You NEED a quick thinking, verbally strong person to deal to the muck that inevitably will be flying. Remember, you do not have to “love “someone to appreciate their leadership skills. You are choosing a leader. Not a beer drinking buddy!
Don’t shoot yourselves in the foot !
Good luck…”may the Force be with you” 🙂
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December 8, 2016 8:01am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Agree that Judith has the mongrel that is probably required but would she scare the sheepies?
  Was the bizarre pink dress she had on yesterday designed to make us think that she really is a soft and cuddly person?
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:06am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    Deadly in Pink
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:46am
- thedavincimode
  
  Why in God’s name was Hager interviewed in the first place on RNZ and then his rubbish reported as Gospel?
  
  I heard that interview. It was a shocker. For those of you who didn’t have the pleasure it ran along the following lines:
  
  hagar: Collins is dodgy, Oravita, SFO, the slug and the public servant
  
  Collins: hagar has no credibility; not only are the allegations unsubstantiated, they are completely incorrect and proven so by the subsequent inquiries.
  
  the jock woman: how can you be an effective PM when if are dogged by these allegations (referring to the allegations proven incorrect)?
  
  and then the kicker, in the news headlines shortly thereafter: hagar says Collins dodgy, Collins disagrees.
  
  Now, if the jock woman had taken the time to bone up on the background in terms of what was found in the various inquiries and on that basis, been able to torpedo Collins on any of her assertions that there was no wrong-doing, then fine. But she hadn’t, couldn’t and didn’t.
  
  Out and out hatchet job from an agenda driven hack. I haven’t bothered with radio pinko for yonks. Now I’m reminded why.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:34am
  - lifesgood
    
    Accidentally hit “report” so sorry. I agree with this poster.
    
    I heard Kim Hill interview JK the morning prior to his announcement. It was utterly nasty, mean spirited and bullying. I can imagine he was sitting there thinking “Thank goodness this crap will be someone else’s problem”
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:02am
    - Flash
      
      Nasty, mean-spirited and bullying – yes – and the more exposed by the fact that her subject was unflappable in the face of her onslaught.
      Not one of Kim Hill’s better moments.
      
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      December 8, 2016 2:53pm
- VicParking
  
  Bill English is a nice “chap” and all that and at question time handles his questions, reading, quite well. However when it comes to supplementaries he is piss weak. As a behind the scenes man he is brilliant but as an off the cuff speaker he is “Humbug”. Stops mid sentence to think and looks indecisive to say the least. I’m sorry but GO JUDITH.
  
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  December 8, 2016 10:27am
Viking2

Shearer quitting.

The labour party in it’s death throws.
Who will inherit their cash and assets?
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December 8, 2016 8:02am
- Tiberius
  
  What cash and assets? They’re broke.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:12am
  - Viking2
    
    UM, no the Party maybe but the branches have lots of assets in buildings. Much like some of the Unions.
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:51pm
- Garbageman
  
  “Labour leader Andrew Little has said his preference is for a byelection to be avoided, and to have an early general election instead, following David Shearer’s resignation…” now why would that be Andy you broke bro and just cos JK is leaving does not mean a socialist muppet on an 8% rating gets to decide the next election timeframe, the hard left wombles will be happy though another right winger gone from their precious commie party
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:42am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Well, it’s certainly timely that the Xmas turkey votes for Xmas.
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:56am
  - holysheet
    
    Don’t forget his court date with the Hagermans.
    He wants the election to be before this defeat is in the public eye. Who would vote for a confirmed loser?
    
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    December 8, 2016 11:59am
- Rich Prick
  
  Can Labour afford another by-election? I hear that the tin is empty.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:52am
Captain Mainwaring

So David Shearer wants to work for the UN in the shithole that is South Sudan rather than spend another four years on the opposition back benches.
Easy choice really.
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December 8, 2016 8:03am
- sooty
  
  Anything is better than been in the Labour party.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:39am
- B.L.Zeebub
  
  The Chardonnay socialists can`t turn down the lure of those tax free greenbacks.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:46am
Andrei

Aleppo liberated!

Americans pissed
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December 8, 2016 8:03am
- Viking2
  
  Well gone from one lot of arseholes to another.
  What can you say?
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:06am
Viking2

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Collins?????? Argh.
All the personality of Muldoon and Shipley rolled into one and a fucking lawyer to boot.
English went and took his Nelson mate with him.

Lets just get a move on and give the job to Coleman.
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December 8, 2016 8:05am
- holysheet
  
  Are you afraid of strong women? Your moniker would appear to support this. Vikings of yore never had any problem with women, just club them over the head and drag them home. The 2 suggests you are not the same type.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:11am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Men are stronger than women, the existence of a few Amazonian alpha females does not change that biological reality.
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:20am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      That’s the difference between boys and girls, and it becomes the difference between men and women, really.
      A man will like steal your car, or burn your house down. Or beat the shit out of you. But a woman will ruin your fucking life. Do you see the difference? A man will cut your arm off, throw it in the river. But he’ll leave you as a human being, intact. He won’t fuck with who you are.
      A woman will destroy your soul.
      
      Like my five year old, the other day, one of her toys broke. And she demanded that I break her sister’s toy to make it fair!. And I did. And that’s how much shit she gave me, I broke a little toy, and I felt awful, I was like crying, and I look at her, and she’s got this creepy smile on her face.
      
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      December 8, 2016 12:06pm
      - holysheet
        
        It was allah’s will that this happened. I pity the poor soul you marry her off to.
        
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        December 8, 2016 12:34pm
      - GoVege
        
        Hehe.
        You nailed it Padriv!
        
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        December 8, 2016 1:07pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Totally whipped if true.
        
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        December 8, 2016 5:39pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        May you be blessed with a dozen more daughters.
        
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        December 8, 2016 6:08pm
- PhilBest
  
  I have always argued that if the Nats had kept Jenny Shipley on in 1999, they would have done better in 2002 than Bill English did.
  
  I like Bill, and was sickened by the NZ electorate giving him the finger like they did, especially the women’s vote. But I still regarded the result as a vindication of my support for a Shipley continuance.
  
  I still think Shipley could have won in 2005 if not 2002.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:24am
  - Jack5
    
    Shipley? Shipley?
    
    What are you sipping today?
    
    She’s the female, National version of Bill Rowling.
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:41am
Happychappy

So the inept Labour leader states that David Shearer is the best Foreign Minister that NZ never had. This idiot will be telling NZ’s next he is god and he is the only person that can save NZ.
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December 8, 2016 8:09am
Manolo

The corrupt MSM, Time in this case, cannot help itself:
http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2016-donald-trump-choice/

For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year.
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December 8, 2016 8:09am
- Inandout
  
  For years I had a cheap Time subscription deal at 75c a copy. I would not pay a cent more.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:15am
- lilman
  
  He is the Man ,of that there is no doubt.
  
  I dont like wimpy pricks or crooks who would sell their family to gain advantage.
  
  Of those who say he isnt fit to be President I say give him time,he is not even in power yet.
  
  I hope he changes the rules of engagement so the Military can wipe the floor with maximum force and effect on ANY terrorist threat.
  
  I have family members wetting themselves with fright of the prospect of whats coming.
  
  I love it.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:20am
kowtow

souvlaki
“You are choosing a leader. Not a beer drinking buddy!”

Isn’t that the quality that supposedly made JK so popular with the unthinking part of the electorate, less leader , more appeal?

And whoever the Ngati Notional caucus choses it will be a nasty campaign as the voices arrayed against him or her won’t just be Hagar and Herr Fatty who are easily dismissed , but the likes of Kate Bradley, Muppet Face Glower,Campbell etc
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December 8, 2016 8:09am
- Ross12
  
  kowtow
  I think JK is one of those rare people who has both strong leadership skills and is a good “drinking buddy”. Not many of those around , especially in politics.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:21am
  - Souvlaki
    
    Yes….but he did not really maximise the political capital he had. Many unpleasant decisions. ..and there were a few were/ have been kicked for touch.eg abolition of the apartheid seats, age of super etc
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:48am
    - PhilBest
      
      …logging on the West Coast, allowing more open-cast mining, restoration of an air strike wing, abolition of the anti-nuke legislation, restoration of ANZUS, repeal of the anti-smacking legislation, repeal of WFF, stripping the urban planners of their powers to create housing bubbles, facing down Len Brown over central government subsidy of an urban train set boondoggle….
      
      Not to mention completing the Clark Agenda on the CAGW emissions trading rort, and gay marriage. What difference did it really make, not having Clark still there as PM from 2008 till now? Heck, even she wouldn’t have pandered to the Iwi mafia extortion racket like Key has.
      
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      December 8, 2016 9:30am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        Which of these do you think would have won majority Parliamentary support?
        
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        December 8, 2016 9:54am
Manolo

A progressive peddler of lies and myths complains about the competition:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-warns-media-over-sin-spreading-fake-news-141839037.html

Media that focus on scandals and spread fake news to smear politicians risk becoming like people who have a morbid fascination with excrement, Pope Francis said in an interview published on Wednesday.

Francis told the Belgian Catholic weekly “Tertio” that spreading disinformation was “probably the greatest damage that the media can do” and using communications for this rather than to educate the public amounted to a sin.
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December 8, 2016 8:13am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  News consumers need to take responsibility for the quality of their sources – most people are intellectually undeveloped and lazy, their FaceBerg account news headline feed is their idea of “staying informed”.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:26am
  - sam green
    
    So – tell us your sources so that we may be as well informed as you.
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:43am
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      First, tell us yours.
      
      However I often link to quoted articles, as below I link to a Jew publication and article about socialist Jews being the operators of the mass extermination of millions in Leftist USSR.
      
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      December 8, 2016 9:29am
      - stephieboy
        
        Joseph Stalin and Lavrentiy Beria Jews ???
        
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        December 8, 2016 9:48am
      - sam green
        
        Obviously anything we read is meaningless to you so – point us all in the right direction.
        
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        December 8, 2016 11:57am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Holy moly….
  
  read the entire story and EAT SHIT!
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:29am
  - PhilBest
    
    The Pope IS a holy moly…. he is obviously a mole for a particular agenda…
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:33am
Nukuleka

I think we should be very concerned about the new guidelines/ rules that Fairfax have placed around the comments section of the online ‘Stuff’ site. Fairfax borrow and twist Trump’s words about ‘draining the swamp’ in order to legitimise these guidelines aiming to raise the level of discourse and reduce the amount of abuse, making it all sound very civilised and and desirable, but in fact aren’t they attempting to silence views with which they disagree? By saying they will not allow comments which they view as homophobic, transphobic, racist and so forth Fairfax are setting themselves up as the arbiters on just what these terms mean. Does it mean I am not allowed to say that gay couples should not be allowed to adopt children, that the state should not pay for gender re-alignment surgery or that the existence of the Maori All Blacks and Maori electorates is a sign of apartheid in our country- or are these opinions deemed homophobic, transphobic and racist? And if commentators aren’t allowed to express such opinions does that mean that Fairfax journalists aren’t allowed to either?
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December 8, 2016 8:15am
- Rich Prick
  
  Any media that invites you to share your views but then seeks to limit the expression of those views (abuse and profanity aside), ain’t worth reading, let alone engaging with.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:00am
- PhilBest
  
  Huh, they have been censoring anything non-PC all along already, why do they think they need to make any special announcement of it now?
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:34am
Paulus

Having seriously considered the National Caucus vote on Monday I like the Bill English lead and Jonathon Coleman as Deputy.
This will give the Caucus time to reflect on the long term position of English and the possible potential of Coleman and see how they and the caucus gel. I Like.

Whilst I still like Paula Bennett – she comes across as a real positive person – she has a difficult portfolio, which like Coleman is a very difficult one. She has an infectious laugh which I like.

Can’t envisage anybody else.
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December 8, 2016 8:16am
- nasska
  
  For better or worse the premiership has become more & more presidential. Whoever leads a party can no longer rely on a successful career as a technocrat to pull in the punters come election time. If anyone needs proof compare John Key with whatshisname who heads up Labour.
  
  Paula Bennett is the only candidate to emerge so far who has the personality to do the job for National.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:31am
  - ross411
    
    David.. David Little. Please, how hard is it to remember his name? Do the man some courtesy.
    
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    December 8, 2016 10:27am
- thedavincimode
  
  Paulus, suggest you give the matter further and more serious consideration.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:38am
Happychappy

Whats up with Morrissey is he getting his order from the germ that uses stolen information to create misery on others.
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December 8, 2016 8:19am
- Garbageman
  
  He’s mostly here to impart his formidable knowledge upon us if in doubt just ask him he will confirm, main reason is probably because the Standard is as good as dead with basically 20 ppl arguing amongst themselves and that nobody there interacts with him unlike the courteous KBers that manage to tolerate even the most tragic of trolls us “RWNJs” are a compassionate lot like that
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:51am
Dave Mann

America is in trouble. Time Magazine has Donald Trump as their person of the year and the sub text on the cover is ‘President of the divided states of America’. In their comments on this, the Guardian (yes I know… lol) obliquely links him with the likes of Stalin and Hitler. And another media outket (not connected to the Time cover) has him compared to an African strongman.

I read the news quite a lot online and it seems that the man who just won the presidential election is almost universally reviled and despised, while anybody who voted for him is automatically classified as an ignorant uneducated white male racist.

While this is the position of the MSM and there are obviously other independent media like Breitbart, freedomainradio etc reporting diffently, the MSM still remains MAINSTREAM and it represents the dominant public opinion in American life.

I don’t think this level of hate and invective has a precedent in American history. I think their society is in trouble and the next four years are going to be very nasty indeed.
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December 8, 2016 8:21am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  “the MSM still remains MAINSTREAM and it represents the dominant public opinion in American life. ”
  
  No Mann, Trump destroyed the MSM, they have zero credibility with the American public, ever since the WMD propaganda campaign the US MSM ran back in 2003, public trust in MSM has been declining.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:30am
  - Inandout
    
    True, and even Gabby Morgan commented on PH this morning that the media is dying. It was however the only sensible thing he uttered.
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:37am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And I don’t think the Pope’s warning that you’ll become a coprophage if you read alternative news sources is going to be “Good News”.
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:40am
  - G152
    
    And that’s why Trump uses TWEETS to get his message out.
    The media killed themselves off as a viable news source
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:48am
  - stephieboy
    
    The majority of US voters don’t think so with Hilary Clinton now receiving 2.7 million of the popular vote more than Donald .
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:51am
    - starboard
      
      Who cares..Trumpys President..get over it.
      
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      December 8, 2016 11:00am
- PhilBest
  
  Actually America is deeply divided, and they might as well split off California and New York State as separate nations to be run on lefty-libbewwal lines, and see what comes of them – and let the rest of the real America get on with life according to the Founders vision.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:36am
  - Griff
    
    What becomes of America once you take away California and New York ?
    Broke and bankrupt.
    The red states suck off liberal titty .
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:54am
    - Inandout
      
      California is by no means a booming state because it suffers regular downturns.
      
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      December 8, 2016 10:29am
    - PhilBest
      
      Nonsense, Texas is where over 50% of new US jobs have been created in the last decade.
      
      Joel Kotkin is the best chronicler of the disparate trends in State performance. You could start with his article in the WSJ, “America’s Red-State Growth Corridors”. It is old now but the trends have continued.
      
      NY and CA have been coasting on past luck. It often happens. Without Wall Street, NYC would have been a bigger Detroit. The acronyms “ABC” and “GTT” in business circles, stand for “Anywhere But California” and “Gone To Texas”.
      
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      December 8, 2016 4:42pm
- Fletch
  
  Yeh, the media are full of shite. As a twitter user points out – look at two election result maps – one from 2008 and the one from this year. Tell me which one most portrays a divided states of America.
  
  https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/806547478652874752
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:02am
wiseowl

I have refrained from commenting following the Key move.
It has been a fascinating few days and some of the comments I have read and views I have listened to on talkback(while working of course) have been truly worrying.
The worst was a caller who said they preferred
one National member for leader because she had a ‘nice voice’.
Some disgusting comments as well.
However it has drawn a few utterances from members who we haven’t really heard from.
Enlightening and stored for future reference.
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December 8, 2016 8:34am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Interesting, this Jewish writer acknowledges that left wing Jews were authors of mass murder and repression on a scale greater than the Nazi.

“Stalin’s Jews

We mustn’t forget that some of the greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

…And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the “bloodthirsty dwarf.”…
”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
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December 8, 2016 8:35am
- PhilBest
  
  That proves that commies are murderous, not that Jews are murderous.
  
  No-one says that the Bolsheviks record makes “Russians” per se, murderous; or that Mao’s record makes Chinese per se, murderous; or that the Kims record makes “Koreans” per se, murderous; or that the Castro regime’s record makes Cubans, per se, murderous. It goes along with the politics, not the race or skin colour.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:51am
- stephieboy
  
  Jazz- Hands Mc Feels ,
  
  Lies . For one Joseph Stalin and Lavrentiy Beria ( Yogoda who was also executed and replaced by Beria )were not Jews nor subsequent leaders Khrushchev and Brezhnev etc.
  
  Explain why Jewish Billionaires such as Sheldon Adelson supported Trump ?
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:59am
doggone7

Mmmmmmm …

“Academic success of charter schools exaggerated”

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/201826898/academic-success-of-charter-schools-exaggerated
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December 8, 2016 8:41am
- G152
  
  Liebor have been told by the teachers union to hate Charter Schools.
  If only the public schools were held to the same standard if only
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:50am
  - doggone7
    
    So because Labour hates Charter Schools because the “teachers union” told them to, the public should get misinformation and poor information about schools?
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:58am
    - ross411
      
      Yes. That’s the point. The media like negative headlines, and the unions/schools feed it to them. And the teachers/parents put their agendas on the kids, having protest and cry on TV about things they cannot comprehend – with the sad reality that their parent/teacher made them unhappy to use them for political points.
      
      It’s a sad circle of petulance and entitlement bred by lack of performance pay, so that we get accrue and encourage winners rather than collect losers.
      
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      December 8, 2016 10:29am
      - doggone7
        
        Forget media, forget unions, forget parents.
        
        Are statistics put out to the public about NCEA results misleading? Or false? Or wrong?
        
        If so, why?
        
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        December 8, 2016 1:10pm
BeeSting

Kia Ora Kia Ora Kiwi Blog

Anyone dong anything for the descendants of whites slaves

Anyone set up a home land like liberia for them???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDWAt_QfMvA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDWAt_QfMvA

Anyone asking for reparations

Anyone know anyone care

NO

Remember that.
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December 8, 2016 8:42am
Padriv Ustoev

And one more story about Diversity Dividends in our own. Aotearooah…. Aroterroroa…. Avaterarower….

New Zealand

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11762347
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December 8, 2016 8:44am
- stephieboy
  
  PU, student visa scam is not quite the same as immigrants arriving from various destinations around the world including Europe .
  
  Do you find something personally objectionable about Indians along with Europeans immigrating here ?
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:39am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    I don’t see any Europeans running visa scams for some reason.
    
    Or setting up bogus schools.
    
    Or hiring teachers that don’t speak English to teach English.
    
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    December 8, 2016 10:51am
EAD

Latest article from Savant – subject matter is the Austrian election and the result of woman’s voting patterns:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2016/12/the-austrian-presidential-election.html?m=0

All over the West it’s mostly women who brandish the ‘Refugees Welcome’ signs. They also staff the reception centres and write anguished letters to their politicians. But why would they support an invasion of primitive misogynistic thieves and rapists?

For a start women react more emotionally than do men. And it’s here where the meme of The Boy On The Beach proved to be so powerful. A brilliantly-staged piece of propaganda, it reinforced the ongoing pictorial representation of the migrants as hapless women and children (notwithstanding that most of the invaders are aggressive young men). Women also have narrower spheres of interest and shorter conceptual time frames. So they’ll subconsciously assess the invasion on what they perceive to be its more immediate impact on their own family and social circle, neglecting the broader and longer-term societal impact. This becomes more understandable given that men have largely determined the course of human history (exploration, warfare, scientific advancement etc.) while women acted as nurturers and home makers. You don’t easily gainsay 10,000 years of evolution
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December 8, 2016 8:45am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Feminism in general results in political GRIDS [ Gay Related Imunno Deficiency Syndrome ]
  
  Just take a look at NZ Labour – men have abandoned Labour in droves because of all the female instigated political faggotry going on in the party.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:39am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD and Jazz Hands , do you both believe women should not only be disenfranchised , kept in the home ( like e g the Taliban and ISIS )but in fact are inferior to yourselves ?
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:44am
  - PhilBest
    
    I recommend you watch some YouTube videos of Milo Yiannopolous versus various feminists.
    
    His valid grounds of argument is that no-one is against “women’s liberation”, but that there is a hard core of shrill feminists nowadays with an agenda that is straight-out misandry – and non-PC culture warriors are saying “enough”.
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:59am
- mikenmild
  
  Kinder, Küche, Kirche
  
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  December 8, 2016 10:07am
mandk

Stuff is reporting that David Little has called for an early general election.

Turkeys voting for Christmas, or Labour admitting it doesn’t have the money to fight a by-election and a general election in the same year?
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December 8, 2016 8:47am
- James Stephenson
  
  A desperate hope that the electorate would be pissed off by an early election being called and blame the Nats for it.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:56am
- Happychappy
  
  My heart bleeds for him, for someone that blames employers for poor pay he might realize now that his poor work ethic is going to cost some of his MP’s their jobs.
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:56am
- Dave Mann
  
  @mandk: Do you know the Labour leader’s name but you’re deliberately getting it wrong to make a point about his irrelevance… or are you genuinely ignorant? I don’t know if I’m reading the writing of a brilliant satirical mind or of an uninformed twit…? 😀
  
  p.s. However, I agree with the thrust of your argument .
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:01am
  - Morrissey
    
    I don’t know if I’m reading the writing of a brilliant satirical mind or of an uninformed twit…?
    
    The former. Our friend mandk is an Antipodean version of Jonathan Swift.
    
    http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7d/7d3aa93a59f654ca8cb882229598479531a7c56bf9fe41b383b4a9815dc98d66.jpg
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:06am
  - mandk
    
    Yes, I do know his name is not David.
    It’s Stuart, isn’t it?
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:23am
    - Dave Mann
      
      ?????
      
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      December 8, 2016 10:53am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    You can thank the Mayor of Kaikoura for “David Little” Dave. It was, of course, an error on his part, but somehow the fact that the Mayor of a New Zealand tourist town doesn’t know the name of the leader of the Labour Party speaks volumes for Little’s cut-through, or the lack thereof.
    
    It fits too, given that in quick succession, Labour’s previous leaders were David Shearer and David Cunliffe.
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:33am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Ahh thank you for that. So mandk is the brilliant satirical mind (on 2 levels), the mayor of Kaikoura is the uninformed twit and I’m just a bit behind with my knowledge of current affairs then…! ???
      
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      December 8, 2016 2:16pm
Morrissey

More grievous ignorance of sports history in the media.
Morning Report, RNZ National, Thursday 8 December 2016, 8:25 a.m.

This morning featured a report from Indira Stewart of the Pacific Radio Network, stating that Joseph Parker and David Tua are the “only two New Zealanders to have ever fought for the World Heavyweight title.”

That is nonsense, of course. On Thursday 26 July 1928 Gisborne’s own Tom Heeney fought Gene Tunney for the title at Yankee Stadium. The fight was stopped in the 11th round.

Neither Susie Ferguson nor Guyon Espiner seemed to notice, and simply carried on with the next item.

For those who, unlike Indira Stewart, care to know something about boxing history, here’s a tape of the fight…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPCOxpECsgw
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December 8, 2016 8:54am
- Morrissey
  
  There is also, of course, another New Zealander who fought for and actually WON the world title: Bob Fitzsimmons. In my haste to deliver a kick to RNZ National, I totally forgot about him.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwNVzqQeeg
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:03am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    A rare moment of agreement between us Morrissey. Both Fitzsimmons and Heeney were fine fighters, and of course they fought in the day when a World Title meant something, not the “alphabet” titles we have now.
    
    That said, I wish Joseph Parker all the best against Ruiz on Saturday night, and if he wins, look forward to him going up against Anthony Joshua at some time in the future. That WOULD be a valid World Tilte fight.
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:16am
G152

Hints to whining Winnie.
If you want to get to get your ‘bills’ through Parliament the idea is not to piss off the largest voting block.
Do try to work with the Speaker, you must by now know how the system works.
And what appears funny through the bottom of a glass does not necessarily translate to the real world.
And finally
Try to get the sycophants to look as if they’re not dependent upon you for their place at the trough.
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December 8, 2016 8:58am
- wiseowl
  
  Hint to National.
  There should be no need for Winnie to come up with the Bill.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:10am
- Paulus
  
  Winston, try to show unlike yesterday that you are not pissed again.
  Stand up and not lean on the furniture, as you might fall over.
  Or take more water with your whisky.
  
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  December 8, 2016 3:40pm
sooty

My vote is for PM Judith Collins with Bill English as deputy and remain as finance minister. Judith has bigger balls than the lot of them, someone needs to kick a few arses to touch!
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December 8, 2016 9:00am
Keeping Stock

Great one-liner from Matthew Hooton this morning on the Paul Henry show:

David Shearer has obviously decided that South Sudan is a more pleasant place to spend his time than the New Zealand Labour Party

Well said that man 😀
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December 8, 2016 9:03am
- Manolo
  
  Excellent line from Mr Hooton, indeed.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:23am
  - Morrissey
    
    Hooton looked really uncomfortable when on television with the far superior Laila Harré the other morning. Whenever he comes up against someone who has the wherewithal to challenge his statements, he lapses into a sullen silence. Lynn Freeman on RNZ National has the same effect on him….
    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-14072015/#comment-1043304
    
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    December 8, 2016 11:54am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Is that the same Laila Harré who took Kim Dotcom’s tainted money?
      
      If so, she has a slight credibility problem Morrissey.
      
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      December 8, 2016 12:29pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Her political wheelings and dealings are no worse than any other politicians in this country. Surely she should be judged on the quality of her speaking and her writing, which is always first rate. Certainly Hooton realized he was outmatched on television, and he showed that by lapsing into a silence closely resembling stupidity.
        
        All of us are compromised in some way, I think. And what is the problem with Kim Dotcom, exactly? Sure, he was foolish enough to give money to John Banks, but his election campaign was all about civil liberties and the right to be free of government oppression.
        
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        December 9, 2016 9:53am
Morrissey

MEET THE CANDIDATES
No. 3: Judith “Crusher” Collins

Possibly the nastiest and most immature political candidate in New Zealand’s history—though not the stupidest.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/87288904/nicky-hager-takes-on-aspirant-pm-judith-collins

“She has the integrity.”—Don Brash.
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December 8, 2016 9:21am
- Happychappy
  
  I see you are still pimping yourself to germs that use stolen information to make a living.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:33am
  - Morrissey
    
    He was given information that showed conclusively that an illegal character assassination campaign was being run out of the Prime Minister’s office. He’s a journalist—a real one, not a pretend one like Barely Sober or John Campbell—so of course he published it.
    
    Using your confused and bewildered approach to such matters, Woodward and Bernstein were also in the wrong.
    
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    December 8, 2016 11:33am
    - Happychappy
      
      If that is the case was anyone convicted in a court of law and what is the difference from you using second hand information to try and smear Judith Collins for a person that still has his book in the childs section at the Warehouse.
      
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      December 8, 2016 12:10pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Collins was forced to step down from her cabinet position. In an age when a few men and women can, with impunity, preside over the destruction of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen and Pakistan (to name just a quick sample) that’s as close to punishment that government officials get, unfortunately.
        
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        December 8, 2016 12:15pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      He was given stolen information.
      
      Fixed it for you Morrissey.
      
      But the amusing thing was that Hager never quoted quoted any of the e-mails or online correspondence Slater had with lefties; Kevin Hague from the Greens for example. He didn’t even try to paint a balanced picture, and that’s why Dirty Politics is now to be found in the $2 bin at The Warehouse. And even that is over-priced.
      
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      December 8, 2016 12:32pm
- Rich Prick
  
  In other words, strong women turn Nicky Harger soft.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:51am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    I’m fairly confident strong men turn him on.
    
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    December 8, 2016 10:02am
    - Happychappy
      
      Well lets hope Morrissey is like his posts all piss and wind.
      
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      December 8, 2016 11:58am
      - Morrissey
        
        ??? Even for you, that was a particularly baffling and unintelligent post, my friend.
        
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        December 8, 2016 12:10pm
- Fletch
  
  “She has the integrity.”—Don Brash
  
  Heh. That kind of reminds me of when you pick up a new novel which has a blurb by a famous critic which praises the author’s previous book, not the one you’re looking at.
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:07am
  - Morrissey
    
    Indeed it does, Fletch. In this case, however, it’s the equivalent of the kiss of death.
    
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    December 8, 2016 11:34am
RF

What’s up with the females in the media…. Where are the attractive intelligent presenters. The ones I have seen fronting TV lately appear to be the types who wear comfortable shoes and bat for the other team. Real ball breakers.
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December 8, 2016 9:22am
- Morrissey
  
  You need to move to Turkey, RF….
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2m30akqGCY
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:40am
Manolo

A mafioso pitches his case:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/12/07/emanuel-to-meet-trump-in-new-york/

In a private meeting in New York, Mayor Rahm Emanuel delivered a letter to President-elect Donald Trump, urging him to continue a federal program that allows some undocumented immigrants to avoid deportation.
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December 8, 2016 9:28am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Demographics is destiny, there is not much that can be done about the rising tide of color in the USA that has been occurring since the 1960s when some Jewish politicians managed to open up the USA to colorful 3rd Worlders.
  
  Expulsion of most hispanics illegal and “legal” is one option but not likely politically viable. This would also have the advantage of destroying a tribal voting bloc that Dems can exploit in the future to hold the Presidency indefinitely.
  
  Remember Trump barely scraped in without the popular vote, only by the historically unprecedented political mobilisation of white America. Time and numbers are against white America.
  
  Another more likely scenario is the break up of the USA into ethno states with a white nation heartland, and the coastal metropolises and southern border areas going full blown Third World “melting pot”.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:48am
  - PhilBest
    
    And yet the States like Texas and Tennessee are getting immigrants too, but their politics is not flipping like the coastal lefty-libbewwal dystopias.
    
    Immigrants are choosing wisely where to go, I think. Some of them want in on traditional western civilisation and the US Founding Fathers vision. The coastal states get the problem immigrants, and they asked for them and deserve them.
    
    The problem is rampant PC multiculturalist pandering, more than immigration per se. If the problem immigrants knew they were not welcome and would be required to fit in or ship out, they wouldn’t come.
    
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    December 8, 2016 10:04am
  - stephieboy
    
    Jazz-Hands Mc Feels,
    
    which Jewish US politicians ? Playing follow your leader , EAD ?
    
    What else do you blame Jews for ?
    
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    December 8, 2016 10:05am
Manolo

Starting to dismantle the Messiah’s legacy:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/07/trump-to-pick-oklahoma-attorney-general-pruitt-as-head-of-epa-source-confirms-to-cnbc.html

President-elect Donald Trump will nominate Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt to serve as head of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, a source familiar with the decision confirmed to CNBC on Wednesday.

Pruitt has been a fierce critic of the EPA, and has been tied to the oil and gas industry, which aligns with Trump’s signaling an interest in loosening energy regulations.
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December 8, 2016 9:53am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Just when you think the degenerate Leftist faggotry could not get any worse:

“Reading from Behind: A Cultural Analysis of the Anus

‘A serious work of theory.’ The Guardian ‘Jonathan Allan has come up with a whole theory of the arsehole.’ Dazed and Confused In a resolute deviation from the governing totality of the phallus, Reading from Behind offers a radical reorientation of the anus and its role in the collective imaginary. It exposes what is deeply hidden in our cultural production, and challenges the authority of paranoid, critical thought. A beautiful work that invites us beyond the rejection of phallocentricism, to a new way of being and thinking about sex, culture and identity.
”
https://www.amazon.com/Reading-Behind-Cultural-Analysis-Anus/dp/1783607548

The perfect Christmas gift for that insufferable Progressive relative and his “husband” in your life!
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December 8, 2016 10:01am
- Gabby
  
  Why you’ll be famous, and not just for your jizzy mitts.
  
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  December 8, 2016 10:07am
- B.L.Zeebub
  
  This is probably not the forum to push your obsession for Bum sex, Jizzy.
  Judging by your posts just today ,you`re coming across like a self-loathing arse-bandit.
  
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  December 8, 2016 10:10am
- Morrissey
  
  “Leftist faggotry”. I love it! May I use that line, Jazz-Hands?
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:56am
cas

Seeing Dotcom is threatening to release his hack of Government emails as part of his strategy to get Labour elected next year, I think National should run a fear campaign – if Dotcom can hack into the Government, no-one’s bank accounts or personal correspondence is safe from him.
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December 8, 2016 10:03am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Dotcom should be very careful with his boasts about supposedly having more hacked information.
  
  He saw last election how such a tactic went down like a pork chop in a synagogue with voters. And now is probably not the time to be attracting the interest of Mr Plod, who might just come a-calling with a search warrant.
  
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  December 8, 2016 12:39pm
  - Komata
    
    Umm, could someone please enlighten me as to why Herr Dotcom is still here? Has the justice system once again failed us and allowed him to stay here forever, or is it still ‘awaiting information’ before getting on with some more hand wringing?
    
    I am aware that ‘the wheels of justice doeth grind slowly’, but this glacial inaction on the Dotcom deportation matter does seem to be beyond all reasonableness.
    
    Can someone tell me what is happening (if anything)?
    
    Thank you.
    
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    December 8, 2016 1:01pm
  - Paulus
    
    Why are you assuming he will not be in a US jail this time next year.
    He can leave his plans with Hagar when he leaves.
    
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    December 8, 2016 3:42pm
Manolo

Chaotic AGW in the United States. Griff to the rescue:
http://www.wjbc.com/2016/12/06/sundays-snow-sets-record-in-several-locations/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4006994/Polar-plunge-sweeping-country.html
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December 8, 2016 10:24am
jonar

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11762756

Charter school pass rates are out of line with state schools, reveals a report.

A report given to Education Minister Hekia Parata says charter school performance standards “give an imperfect representation of overall school performance” and drop massively when brought in line with state schools.

Analysis of 2014 figures showed that Vanguard Military School on Auckland’s North Shore and Te Kura Hourua O Whangarei Terenga Paraoa had met their NCEA leaver targets – when they hadn’t.

Vanguard reported a 100 per cent pass rate for Level 2 NCEA. However when revised in line with NCEA standards it dropped to just 60 per cent. It met Level 1 standards.

At Te Kura Hourua, neither Level 1 or Level 2 NCEA standards were met once revised: Level 1 dropped from 82 per cent to 77.8 per cent and Level 2 dropped from 80 per cent to 55.6 per cent.
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December 8, 2016 10:33am
- mikenmild
  
  I heard David Seymour on the radio trying to argue that the charter schools needed different standards because they were different…
  
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  December 8, 2016 10:45am
  - doggone7
    
    I heard a radio interview, edited obviously, where Seymour failed to address the core question about why “apples weren’t being compared with apples” and his fall back position was “partnership schools are performing pretty well.”
    
    He and the Minister often reference the importance of data and he, they, apparently are putting out misleading data. The only conclusion can be that the reasons for that are to do with propaganda.
    
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    December 8, 2016 1:15pm
    - Gabby
      
      I’m sure Baaarp Baaarp Coleman’s health numbers are fine though.
      
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      December 8, 2016 9:16pm
Manolo

The Muslim invaders are taking the Europeans for a ride:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4010062/THREE-QUARTERS-child-asylum-seekers-undergo-medical-tests-prove-age-adults-Denmark.html

Three quarters of so-called child asylum seekers in made to undergo medical tests to prove their age in Denmark have been found to be adults.

The Danish Immigration Service suspected 800 migrants were lying about their age and asked the University of Copenhagen’s Department of Forensic Medicine to run checks on them. Having carried out x-rays of their teeth and bones, it was revealed 600 of the refugees involved were actually adults.
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December 8, 2016 10:37am
- Jack5
  
  Manolo, there are those in New Zealand who pressed to have NZ doors opened wider to this sort of Muslim crap. They include the airhead celebrity Rachel Smalley and the National Party insiders who pressed John Key to backtrack on his initial reaction not to increase NZ’s refugee intake.
  
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  December 8, 2016 10:45am
  - Manolo
    
    Including our discredited resident multiculturalist, who continues to push for thousands of refugees, read followers of the religion of peace, to be accepted by NZ.
    
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    December 8, 2016 10:51am
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo, no .It is all about evidence and facts of which you are always conspicuously short of other than tabloid sleaze !
      
      http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Daily_mail_1938.jpg
      
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      December 8, 2016 11:42am
  - stephieboy
    
    Jack5 , how is the Medina of the South Pacific shaping up ?
    
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    December 8, 2016 10:52am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , these children adults ?
  
  http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/royalty/2013082214238/princess-mary-denmark-visit-syria/0-72-739/princess-mary5–a.jpg
  
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  December 8, 2016 10:50am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    All this proves is that all the actual children are left behind in Syria.
    
    All makes sense I guess – Adults in Europe children in Syria.
    
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    December 8, 2016 10:56am
mikenmild

Seventy-five years ago today the war came to the Pacific.
The attack on Pearl Harbour came early in the morning of 8 December, New Zealand time, followed closely by attack on Malaya and in the Philippines.
New Zealand declared war against Japan at 11 o’clock that morning.
The men of the RNZAF’s 1st Aerodrome Construction Squadron in Malaya were woken by the sirens signalling the first air raid on Singapore. Later that morning, 485 Squadron was flying its first combat patrols over Singapore.
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December 8, 2016 10:42am
- Jack5
  
  I think NZ pilots served in Singapore. I know of the family of one who was killed.
  
  I think the Kiwis were flying obsolete Brewster Buffalo fighters, though a few Hurricanes might have arrived towards the end.
  
  You have to give it to the Japanese in the Malaya campaign. Bicycle infantry easily bypassed the bridges blasted by the retreating Commonwealth troops, and there was a Malay 5th column supplying the Japanese with intelligence.
  
  That plus superior aircraft and more of them clinched the victory for Japan.
  
  Amazing, that until the war, Western prejudice was that the Japanese couldn’t be good pilots, and we underestimated the Japanese despite their campaigns from the beginning of the century, with a victory over Tsarist Russia. (The Soviet Union dusted them up later on the Manchuria-Siberia border.)
  
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  December 8, 2016 10:56am
  - mikenmild
    
    New Zealand set up its first security service during the war. The Brits sent us an officer, Major Folkes, to head up the bureau.
    I recall my grandfather describing how this chappy lectured them on the physical and mental deficiencies of the Japanese. They all thought it was rubbish.
    Folkes was given the arse-card after he fell hook, line and sinkers for a hoax about German spies operating in Rotorua.
    
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    December 8, 2016 11:04am
cha

PEOTUS strikes, again.

Biotech is seeing red.

Just two sentences from President-elect Donald Trump on drug prices sent biotech investors into a frenzy Wednesday. Major indices like the NASDAQ Biotechnology Index and the S&P Biotech ETF fell between 3.5% and 4.5%, as did a host of major biotechs like Bluebird Bio BLUE -10.70% , Celgene CELG -4.03% , Regeneron REGN -1.88% , Biogen BIIB -2.01% , and more.

http://fortune.com/2016/12/07/donald-trump-drug-prices-biotechnology/
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December 8, 2016 10:58am
EAD

Quite a lot of “don’t question the roles of the Jewish diaspora” on GD today in response to Jazz Hands history review.

The question people on here need to ask themselves is why were the Jews hated so much in Europe? Europe was the center of most Jews since the 10th century

When Judea had a revolt in 72 AD against the Roman Empire it was not only crushed but Judea was renamed Palestine by the Roman Senate several years later

By 78 AD most Jews (Judaians) were scattered and left Judea. This is 700 years before the birth of Islam. They could not go to any Roman region and that region included most of Europe, Egypt, some parts of the Middle East and most of North Africa. They had to go south and south east of the North African part of the Roman Empire.

By the time many returned to Europe it was well after the Roman Empire fell. They faced laws, decrees, edicts from rulers and Popes to get out of each region they would settle.

So why did Pope Pious drive them out? Why did Martin Luther the founder of the Protestant movement, want all Synagogues and Jewish books burned, with the Jews driven out? How about the edicts passed by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella against the Jews?

Why did King James of Aragon demand that Jews wear a yellow patch with the star of David? (Centuries before Germany).

Why were there Pogroms on regular basis in Czarist Russia against their Jewish community? We are talking of a massive population with many cultures disliking the presence of the Jewish community.

If one answers those questions honestly why the highly civilised cultures of Europe wanted them out, time and time again, maybe we may understand the nature of Jews outside of Israel…..
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December 8, 2016 11:00am
- mikenmild
  
  I think we all realise that Jews faced many persecutions over the centuries and that some Nazis, like yourself, would like to continue that habit.
  So what is your solution for the Jewish problem?
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:07am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “So what is your solution for the Jewish problem?”
    
    Perhaps we should look at the Jews solution for their Negro Problem for inspiration?:
    
    “Israel Forcibly Injected African Immigrants with Birth Control, Report Claims
    
    This weekend, a report revealing that African women immigrating to Israel were subjected to mandatory contraceptive injections, effectively amounting to forced (if temporary) sterilization made global headlines.
    
    That Israel should allegedly engage in this activity is particularly shocking, considering the practice was widely used by the Germans throughout the Shoah.
    ”
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/#4c3529e32880
    
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    December 8, 2016 2:45pm
- Lance
  
  So according to your fucked up logic (as usual), the Europeans were smart to evict the Jews.
  So the same Europeans welcoming in Arab Muslims must make them a far better people to enhance Europe by that logic.
  Either that or Europeans are collectively fucked in the head
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:11am
- Kimbo
  
  The question people on here need to ask themselves is why were the Jews hated so much in Europe? Europe was the center of most Jews since the 10th century
  
  EAD, you loathsome individual, how about you don’t tell me what we “need” to do, especially when it involves your anti-Semitic begging the question?
  
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  December 8, 2016 12:40pm
- mandk
  
  I guess the people you mention were much like you are, EAD.
  
  Steeped in envy and hatred.
  
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  December 8, 2016 1:16pm
- EAD
  
  Oy Vey – stop mentioning hate facts! 🙂
  
  Have you cottoned on that when I post on here on what is for some a hyper sensitive topic (bought on by years of an oy Vey eternal suffering propaganda), all I do is lay out fact upon fact upon fact and ask readers to make up their own mind.
  
  I never insult anyone personally or get caught up in animosity, despite receiving a fair amount of flak sometimes. The same goes for Jazz Hands.
  
  Instead of just kvetching and slandering, why don’t you join the debate?
  
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  December 8, 2016 5:23pm
  - mikenmild
    
    That you list a series of factual cases of persecution against Jews does not help you to justify resuming such persecution today.
    As for debate, how about answering the question: what are your plans for the Jews?
    
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    December 8, 2016 5:48pm
Manolo

@cha: Very good to see you speaking as a concerned investor.
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December 8, 2016 11:00am
- cha
  
  Make no mistake Manolo, I’m a fucking capitalist pig who believes opportunity, enterprise and endeavour are the way to success.
  
  Monopoly, rent seeking, might is right and sharp practices are blights that discredit the notion of opportunity, enterprise and endeavour.
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:50am
  - Manolo
    
    100% in agreement.
    
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    December 8, 2016 12:17pm
rangitoto

Set back for Remoaners:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/741007/Article-50-MPs-approve-Government-amendment-begin-EU-divorce-end-March
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December 8, 2016 11:05am
Fletch

Yet another one…

Five Afghani migrants in the Swedish city of Uppsala brutally raped an underage boy for over an hour in the woods and reports claim they filmed the attack on their mobile phones.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/07/afghan-migrants-brutally-rape-boy-film-ordeal/

WTF is wrong with these people? They seem sex-mad.
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December 8, 2016 11:09am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  They are Islamic. They hate white Western Civilisation
  
  Leftist will tell you whities are just getting what they deserve because “White Privilege”.
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:17am
waikatogirl

Huge power outage in Northland has been caused by some idiot shooting at 3 large power pylons in rugged country, knocking out the glass insulators.

The police have been called in.

Paihia is closed for business due to the outage, despite a cruise ship disgorging tourists with money to spend.

Hope they throw the book at whoever is responsible for this economic terrorism!!
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December 8, 2016 11:12am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  ISIS has taken responsibility.
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:36am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

LOL

“A New Zealand man of Asian descent had his passport photograph rejected when facial recognition software mistakenly registered his eyes as being closed.

Richard Lee’s attempt to renew his passport was blocked after he submitted the picture to an online passport photo checker run by New Zealand’s department of internal affairs.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-newzealand-passport-error-idUSKBN13W0RL?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5847d7c804d301564848b0d6&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
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December 8, 2016 11:15am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  One of my many wives who happen to be of Afro american descent had her photo rejected too.
  
  System said her hair was a hat.
  
  Racist Racist System.
  
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  December 8, 2016 11:37am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Remember the Google image search algorithm – if you typed in ‘gorilla’, you got a search result with a mix of gorilla faces and negro faces, LOL.
    
    #Everything Is Racist
    
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    December 8, 2016 2:40pm
Manolo

A good article on retirement trends:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/07/get-ready-to-retire-at-50-not-because-you-want-to-but-because-youll-have-to.html
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December 8, 2016 11:35am
Don the Kiwi

Dunno about you lot, but I could do with a dose of global warming about now – coldest bloody December in years.
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December 8, 2016 12:35pm
- Griff
  
  Stick to eating magic zombie bits chanted up by your witch doctor and praying to imaginary sky pixies Don .
  The concept of Science is obviously too far advanced for a primitive mind like yours.
  
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  December 8, 2016 12:42pm
Stars And Stripes

Offensive north Canterbury place names changed
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/offensive-north-canterbury-place-names-changed-2016120812.
“Three controversial place names in north Canterbury have been changed to something less offensive.
Nigger Stream will be officially known as Pukio Stream, Niggerhead as Tawhai Hill, and Nigger Hill is now Kanuka Hill.

How much money was spent on renaming something which probably about 95% of the population did not even know about.
Government dealing with the big issues again.
Load of nonsense.
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December 8, 2016 1:27pm
Manolo

The case against Angela Merkel:
You can ban the burka, Frau Merkel. But what are you going to do about banning the migrant boats YOU encouraged to come and which are destroying your country?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4011046/KATIE-HOPKINS-Angela-Merkel-going-migrant-boats.html
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December 8, 2016 1:59pm
- mikenmild
  
  Banning the burqa in Germany will affect approximately zero people:
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/08/19/germanys-potential-burqa-ban-has-a-problem-where-are-the-burqas/?utm_term=.2edd6f8fefd6&wpisrc=nl_wv&wpmm=1
  
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  December 8, 2016 2:17pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Mekle is in panic mode, sees the writing on the wall next election, having flooded her country with Islamic rapefugees. She is now pretending she gives a damn about the real German people and the violence they are suffering at the hands of the imported Colorfuls.
    
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    December 8, 2016 2:26pm
sooty

I posted this in David Shearer farwell. Any Labour MP should stand as an INDEPENDANT, in Shearers seat. Why would you go in under the Labour banner. They got no money. Look at Far Goof useing blue colour. Why would you invite David in to campain. How many are going to get reelected into their seats. Might as well be indepedant!
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December 8, 2016 2:02pm
cha

So, the PEOTUS takes the Russian position and thinks US intelligence agency conclusions that Putin’s agencies were responsible for the DNC hack were politically driven.

Helluva job, voters.
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In this view, Trump will find common cause with Vladimir Putin, the authoritarian President of Russia who, like Trump, seeks to challenge diplomatic and democratic norms. For reasons that remain unclear, Trump still refuses to acknowledge the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that Putin’s agencies were responsible for stealing the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign emails released on WikiLeaks. “I don’t believe it. I don’t believe they interfered,” Trump says. Asked if he thought the conclusion of America’s spies was politically driven, Trump says, “I think so.” Since the election, Trump has chosen not to consistently make himself available for intelligence briefings, say aides.

http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2016-donald-trump/?xid=homepage
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December 8, 2016 2:08pm
- William of Ockham
  
  Perhaps they should use the word “spying”.
  
  “Intelligence” might spook him.
  
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  December 8, 2016 2:29pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Really? So how stupid is that female Hillary and her feminist groupies after he destroyed them in the election.
    
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    December 8, 2016 2:48pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Who cares how the emails got leaked? They prove what evil scheming scum the Dems and that old witch are.
  
  The email revelations are to be celebrated as a win for democracy!
  
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  December 8, 2016 2:53pm
Manolo

Do-gooders, imbeciles, progressives, greenies and useful idiots all rolled into one:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4011374/Teachers-banned-asylum-seeker-T-shirt-protest-told-focus-Australia-s-shocking-school-rankings.html

Hundreds of teachers from schools in New South Wales and Victoria have been caned for planning to wear T-shirts in the classroom calling for the closure of offshore detention camps.

Up to 500 Teachers for Refugees activists from Victoria will wear shirts emblazoned with ‘Close the Camps, Bring them Here’ to protest against asylum seekers being housed in Nauru.
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December 8, 2016 2:12pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  The education sector is a cesspit of Progressive activist vermin – just like pedophiles they are attracted to fields involving high contact and influence over our children, like drug dealers, pushing Cultural Marxist agitprop on little kids.
  
  This is how you get a generation of brainwashed Stalinist millennials who need Safe Spaces, play-do and colouring books at Universities while foaming at the mouth about “White Privilege” and “Patriarchy”.
  
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  December 8, 2016 2:36pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Jazz Hands Mc Feels, could your post your New Nazi political manifesto for 2017 ?
    
    A guide for you here ,
    
    https://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/25Points.html
    
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    December 8, 2016 3:09pm
  - Griff
    
    Jazz hands mc feels .
    Why does that handle me think of a sad lonely little kiddy in mums basement going fap fap fap fap ?
    
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    December 8, 2016 3:10pm
    - cha
      
      So fucking sad and lonely he had to steal another piece of shit’s handle.
      
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      December 8, 2016 3:26pm
- ross411
  
  If the teachers don’t realise why this is bad, they shouldn’t be teaching.
  
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  December 8, 2016 4:36pm
Manolo

Pass the salts, cries Griff:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/12/07/trump-ignores-gores-advice-instead-picks-skeptic-to-head-epa-dismantle-climate-agenda/

Trump ignores Gore’s advice, instead picks skeptic to head EPA & dismantle climate agenda.
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December 8, 2016 3:24pm
- cha
  
  Global warming only affects Irish golf courses.
  
  https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cites-dangers-of-global-warming-in-fight-to-build-a-wall-at-his-ireland-golf-course-205403430.html
  
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  December 8, 2016 3:35pm
Fletch

Tucker Carlson vs liberal on Trump being Time Magazine’s Person Of The Year.

Liberal: Hitler was Time’s Man Of The Year in 1938 – blah, blah, blah….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_EP-usu0Ls
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December 8, 2016 3:29pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch,
  
  Donald Trump named as Time magazine’s person of the year
  
  US president-elect joins Obama, Hitler and Stalin on list of people deemed most influential ‘for better or for worse’
  
  Liberal Stalin Blah, blah , blah !
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/07/donald-trump-named-as-time-magazines-person-of-the-year
  
  I wonder if Trump will ever emulate President Obama and scoop the Nobel Prize ?
  
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  December 8, 2016 3:34pm
  - Fletch
    
    The woman made a complete fool of herself. Felt like giving her a slap.
    
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    December 8, 2016 3:44pm
- ross411
  
  It’s kind of sad to watch Tucker, he questions people on how much they understand about what they claim, or whether they’re willing to ditch the weasel words and actually clearly state what they claim to be claiming. And what you get is one person who is basically producing nonsensical white noise, and Tucker repeating plain clear questions.
  
  This girl was clearly a green on the take. It’s her job to try and make a big deal out of environmental issues, because in reality, it’s what she gets paid for. As the interview shows, she doesn’t understand more than the headlines she’s read about the subject at hand. In many ways, this is a common factor she has with NZ greens, and the green voters.
  
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  December 8, 2016 4:27pm
Fletch

Tucker again – vs. Dem. Congressman over supposed Russian involvement in the election

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqKkWFYL7FY
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December 8, 2016 3:48pm
- ross411
  
  I find it hard to listen to this congressman. He just says word after word after word, and it becomes white noise. And any response to Tucker’s clear questions is more words that never end, and never say much.
  
  I need subtitles where someone’s translating the congressman’s bullshit to summaries of the bullshit.
  
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  December 8, 2016 4:45pm
Manolo

Nailing another of the Messiah’s “achievements”:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/07/paul-ryan-says-obamacare-is-entering-a-death-spiral.html

Paul Ryan hammered President Barack Obama’s health care law Wednesday, stressing that he plans to use the early days of Donald Trump’s presidency to “fix” the insurance system.
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December 8, 2016 4:01pm
Fletch

Federal Judge also reverses Stein Michigan recount. Looks like it’s over, unless she wants to drive on the axel, now that she’s lost the wheel, and grind it down into the road.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-recount-idUSKBN13W27D
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December 8, 2016 4:20pm
Griff

Police have increased patrols on the route and issued over 150 speeding tickets on the highway in the first ten days after the quake.

Canterbury highway patrol leader Senior Sergeant Philip Dean said the best advice to drivers was to be patient and accept trips on the route take longer than they did on SH1.

Dean said overtaking slow moving vehicles was a “fruitless” risk, as the driver would only be held up by another further down the road.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/87262833/the-risk-is-fruitless–police-urge-no-passing-on-alternate-sh1
Well then copper rather than boasting about pinging speeding motorists why dont you do your job and ping those holding up the traffic ?
Its the bloody law after all.
If you retards made an effort to stop those ignorant sods who disrupt the flow of traffic by driving slower than most of us and the law allows yet dont pull over to let us pass we would all be safer and less stressed on the roads.
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December 8, 2016 5:09pm
Manolo

The un-American Obama was conspicuous by his absence:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/07/pearl-harbor-ceremonies-take-place-across-nation.html
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December 8, 2016 5:52pm
Jack5

NZ place names ethnically cleansed: no more n****r names.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11763254
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December 8, 2016 6:14pm
- mikenmild
  
  Good thing too
  
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  December 8, 2016 7:14pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Why is censoring a word still in every day use a good thing Mike? Does it scare you?
    
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    December 8, 2016 9:38pm
Reid

Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe appeared at David Horowitz’s Freedom Center and made the case for how his brand of bold journalism has turned the tide against the lies, planted & paid assets, scripted media talking points and cross-collaboration that tried to purchase a presidency for Hillary Clinton.

Despite outward appearances of a fair and free election in the world’s foremost democracy, the conflict of interest has reached a peak – literal presstitutes have been bought out and told to frame virtually everything in a light favorable to what was supposed to be the first female president.

Here is O’Keefe’s proclamation of victory – of slaying the mainstream, agenda-driven, propaganda media with the truth, caught on video:

https://vimeo.com/193276666
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December 8, 2016 6:24pm
Reid

Very good backgrounder on Trump’s son in law.

He was the guy who got Christie ousted. So he has Trump’s ear.

And when you read about who he is, it tells you a lot about Trump, that he’d rate this dude in the way he clearly does.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/jared-kushner-education-donald-trump
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December 8, 2016 6:54pm
Reid

So here’s a link explaining how very chummy Killary was to Boeing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-hillary-clinton-and-boeing-a-beneficial-relationship/2014/04/13/21fe84ec-bc09-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html?utm_term=.43d8705333d3

And here’s a link to a tweet asking:

Why did Boeing mark up that bill so high? They thought their crony Hillary would be the one paying it:

https://twitter.com/MarkSimoneNY/status/806262912142737408

Naturally, it matters not to scum like Killary that Boeing would obviously claw back and more its expenses, just so long as they don’t ask her to pay for it, right?
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December 8, 2016 7:28pm
mikenmild

Comedy from Jesusland:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/87370597/modern-family-actress-sofia-vergara-sued-by-her-own-embryos
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December 8, 2016 8:02pm
- EAD
  
  So Milkmaid,
  
  what’s your solution for the people from “Jesusland”? 🙂
  
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  December 8, 2016 8:09pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Democracy.
    
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    December 8, 2016 8:12pm
    - EAD
      
      Do you mean “democracy” as practised in the West where (((the powers that be))) buy and install their chosen party leaders from both the “Left” http://www.jta.org/2016/10/26/top-headlines/5-top-donors-to-clinton-election-bid-reportedly-are-jewish
      
      and from the “Right”
      http://www.jta.org/2016/11/16/default/top-jewish-donors-prominent-on-trump-inauguration-committee
      
      hedging their bets to ensure both contenders belong to them, thus giving the purblind electorate (and of course, Milkmaid from Wellington) the illusion of an actual choice. They also own the media, which acts as both their brainwashing faculty, and in emergencies (Trump, Brexit) as their attack dogs.
      
      With very rare exceptions, the “electorate” will never have the chance to vote for politicians who reflect their wishes, and who therefore would be prepared to send these invaders back. Even if one or two slipped through the net, it would only be a temporary pause, until the next election, when (((they))) would get their way once more.
      
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      December 8, 2016 8:19pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Oh yes, much better to have a Nazi dictator in charge, rather than bother with that tiresome democracy.
        
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        December 8, 2016 8:25pm
      - EAD
        
        It’s NAAAARRRTZEESS! Thank God we were liberated from the Nazis all those years ago. Just think how the world would be today if Hitler had won?
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsBsgyPZrmw
        
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        December 8, 2016 8:28pm
      - mikenmild
        
        What, no videos of corpses and bombed-out cities for you to get nostalgic for?
        
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        December 8, 2016 8:37pm
      - Griff
        
        ROFL
        It is quite funny .
        In his national socialist paradise.
        EAD would have been arrested and disappeared long ago
        Dissenters in such undemocratic paradise are the first to go .
        
        Don’t it always seem to go
        That you don’t know what you’ve got
        Til its gone
        
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        December 8, 2016 8:46pm
rightoverlabour

Just love the tone of this article. Oh to be able to buy firearms for SELF DEFENCE!

http://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2016/12/07/five-home-defense-shotguns-christmas-wish-list/
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December 8, 2016 8:12pm
Griff

Oh to be able to buy firearms for SELF DEFENCE! from the crims who would also buy guns in self defense. .
Rambo is a movie so is die hard and the rest of the stuff you obviously watch to much of .
There is more chance that you will shoot your self , your family or a crim will use it to kill you than you will ever use a gun in self defense.
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
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December 8, 2016 9:02pm
Manolo

The liberal WaPo is “concerned”:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-hires-a-third-general-raising-concerns-about-heavy-military-influence/2016/12/07/a6273fbc-bca0-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.72d12a3f1c7a
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December 8, 2016 9:45pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Trump probably wants to end the wars that are sucking trillions of dollars from the American economy. Imagine what you could do with that money in your own country…You could pay for ObamaCare a hundred times over.
  
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  December 8, 2016 9:53pm
Manolo

A gangster politician retires:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/harry-reid-interview-232346
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December 9, 2016 6:27am
Viking2

Another citizen bothering exercise gone tits up.

You know one of those that know best. god bothering policemen and politicians.

Drink-drive fatalities last year were the highest since 2010. In the 20-24 age group, the number of alcohol-affected male drivers involved in fatal crashes increased from 12 to 22 – that’s nearly double. For men overall, the number was up from 56 to 82.

If the numbers had gone the other way, I’m sure the ministry would have been shouting from the rooftops. As it is, it’s hard to escape the impression the figures were buried.

We shouldn’t be in the least bit surprised that the law change hasn’t delivered the promised improvement. Control-freak policy-makers and poll-driven politicians refuse to accept that human behaviour can’t conveniently be changed by legislative decree.

more ; http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/87298935/karl-du-fresne-laws-cant-change-human-behaviour
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December 9, 2016 6:35am
Manolo

Riding the popularity wave:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/is-trump-already-president/article/2609134

President-elect Trump has spent the month since his election victory engaging in some distinctly presidential-style behavior, including engaging with businesses on behalf of the American people, conducting a bit of foreign policy, and delivering sweeping public addresses — all before he holds the authority of the presidency.
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