General Debate 3 December 2016

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Steve (North Shore)

Anyone awake? Bugger this, I’m going fishing
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December 3, 2016 8:03am
- prosper
  
  I caught two nice snApper in 20 minutes then headed home on calm seas with no wind. Beautiful.
  
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  December 3, 2016 12:36pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Went around Rangitoto/Motutapu, washed 5 bags of bait and 3 berley bombs at Mullet Bay. 6 on the boat and only Grandaughter caught 1 legal snap.
    That’s why it is called ‘fishing’ Great day out
    
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    December 3, 2016 6:46pm
Pete George

A judge has ruled on a case under the Harmful Digital Communications Act.

– Posting photos to Facebook constitutes a digital communication
– The defendant intended to cause harm
– The posting would cause serious emotional distress to an objective person in the position of the defendant

But

– There was insufficient evidence of ‘harm’ defined as “serious emotional distress”.

Based on this it seems that prosecutions for ‘harm’ under the HDCA will only succeed in fairly extreme cases proving “serious emotional distress”.

I don’t think this is the judge’s fault, he went to some length to understand and comply with the Act.

Those who deliberately set out to cause harm online shouldn’t have much difficulty keeping degree of the damage below this threshold, unless they misjudge someone’s emotional state and tip them over the edge.

HDCA: cot case bar set for ‘harm’
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December 3, 2016 8:08am
- fernglas
  
  I read the post on your website, and I think the judge got it right. Balancing rights and freedoms under the Bill of Rights Act with the interests of a victim is always difficult, but that doesn’t mean that they should take second place. Here the prosecution seems to have foundered on the absence of evidence to show the victim suffered harm to the extent required by the legislation, so it cannot be seen as particularly setting a precedent, other than that the application of the law is orthodox and consistent with the intent of the legislation.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:18am
  - Pete George
    
    I agree that the judge seems to have got it right, but I question whether the Act gets it right.
    
    Free speech is important and trivial criticisms should be left alone, but it looks like the HDCA will allow a lot of deliberately harmful communications online.
    
    Free expression of opinion should be separated from deliberate abuse, threats, intimidation and harm short of ‘serious emotional distress’.
    
    This ruling suggests that anyone who is mentally strong regardless of how badly they are attacked has no remedy through the HDCA.
    
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    December 3, 2016 8:30am
    - kowtow
      
      Would breaching a confidence count ?
      
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      December 3, 2016 8:46am
jcuk

It appears that Sir G Palmer and another are now pushing for complete Maori control of the country.
I am glad I will be dead before this can happen but I am sorry for all you younger folk with fruitcakes like this around.
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December 3, 2016 8:17am
- Paulus
  
  Me too !
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:19am
- wiseowl
  
  Can some one explain to me what gives Palmer and his mate Butler some right/authority to come up with these destructive attacks on New Zealand?
  Has he been commissioned to do this?
  Has the Government asked him?
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:32am
  - Paulus
    
    No – he is just a senile interfering old bastard, who should be put out to grass.
    Still cannot understand why nobody loves him !
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:10am
  - deadrightkev
    
    The New Zealand citizen allows these cretins to have influence by not speaking out.
    
    National and Labour are on the same page going forward, only the font differs. If we Kiwis don’t want the Maori elites to take our birth rights then we have to vote someone in to stop it.
    
    Remember this is a National government that is appeasing Maori. National do not support a unified nation. If they did they would abolish the Maori seats, shut down Maori TV and amend the Local Government Act 2002 to remove references to the ToW.
    
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    December 4, 2016 2:18pm
- artemisia
  
  I see a response from Thomas Gibbons which includes the comment that the reason given for the proposed bill is that the current system is too hard to understand. He suggests that the authors of the new book instead write a book which explains it all neatly and simply. Rather than reinventing it.
  
  Good call.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:35am
  - Kiwi Dave
    
    What is much harder to understand is why we the people would want to hand over power to unelected lawyers, an almost certain consequence of a written constitution. For Palmer that consequence is apparently a feature, not a bug.
    
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    December 3, 2016 1:08pm
- kowtow
  
  Yeah but look at Ngati Notional , they are slowly , quietly implementing Treaty by stealth , this from the party that campaigned on dumping the racist seats.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:47am
Morrissey

Great Moments in Broadcasting. NOT.
No. 2: Noelle McCarthy’s patsy interview with Mark Bowden 

“Summer Noelle”, National Radio, Tuesday 8 January 2013, 9:09 a.m.

https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-08012013/#comment-570645

Great Moments in Broadcasting. NOT is an occasional series highlighting some of the worst moments in our pretty shameful history of broadcasting mediocrity and downright failure.
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December 3, 2016 8:19am
- pentwig
  
  Why would I want to listen to anything that comes from that cesspool?
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:09am
  - Morrissey
    
    Thanks to the magic of transcription, you don’t have to.
    
    http://www.curmudgeon-alley.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ywc-logo-design.png
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:17am
- RF
  
  Is McCarthy still here ?
  
  I thought she was handed her arse for plagiarism and scuttled back to her hole in bog land.
  
  When ever her voice was heard on our radio it was a race to change the bloody station. What a rude piece of filth.
  
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  December 3, 2016 10:05am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    And to Noelle McCarthy’s credit, like you, I realised that there is life without RNZ.
    She was the first of the RNZ crew I would rush to turn off, then Jim Mora joined the switch-off….now there’s only a few I occasionally tune into.
    
    Try locating the off-switch, Morrissey;
    works wonders for your ataraxia.
    
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    December 3, 2016 10:24am
    - Morrissey
      
      Thanks for the advice, Maggy—but I’m an addict, unfortunately.
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:27am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I’m running a rather exclusive b&b for recovering RNZ addicts.
        Quite a strict regime…. you are permitted to listen to weather reports and a couple of news items each day.
        At night you are permitted to listen to the BBC interludes.
        You’ll spend the day doing my vacuuming , talking to the cats and mowing lawns.
        
        I can offer you a special KB rate and I guarantee a life thereafter free from this lot…
        http://www.radionz.co.nz/presenters
        
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        December 3, 2016 11:03am
    - mikenmild
      
      Ha, Jim Mora! He’s some kind of personification of ignorance.
      Loved the ‘panel’ the other day when they all agreed that flag burning was illegal in the US.
      
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      December 3, 2016 12:11pm
      - stephieboy
        
        mm, it was corrected the following day.
        
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        December 3, 2016 1:14pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Is McCarthy still here ?
    
    I think she returns every summer. A few years ago I did think that she was a decent and thoughtful person, but as I listened to her more, I realised she was anything but decent or thoughtful….
    
    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-19072013/#comment-664870
    
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    December 3, 2016 10:33am
    - Gabby
      
      What, because she doesn’t follow the Pope, or because she knew it was Mandela’s birthday, or because she didn’t tell Poffpoff Trotsker to stfu?
      
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      December 4, 2016 8:55am
Liberty

The Herald shows its ineptitude. “Tukurua Beach”Is not in the Able Tasman National park.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759432
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December 3, 2016 8:20am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  The local newspaper shows its ineptitude is no longer news, in fact has not been ‘news’ for quite some time.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:26am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    What WOULD be news would be an issue of Granny Herald without a single error of fact!
    
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    December 3, 2016 10:04am
- Ole Bill Mole
  
  nor the Abel Tasman park…..
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:39am
- Gabby
  
  Is it in the DisAble park?
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:41am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Your thought processes
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:14am
Happychappy

Where have all of the astute Jounalists gone that made hay out of the fat craut at the last election. David Fishing and Rat Nippert have been relatively quiet on their bias assumptions of trying to create a opinion that the Government is corrupt in a Proffesion that see’s Journalist’s as the least trusted occupation in NZ. In my opinion NZ and the Herald are better of not seeing or hearing from the likes of palm feathering one sided so called Journalist’s like these two.
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December 3, 2016 8:24am
- fernglas
  
  HC
  
  I love your work, but today you have gone to new heights. “Palm feathering”? What in God’s name does that mean?
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:28am
  - Happychappy
    
    What do you usually hold your hand out for.
    
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    December 3, 2016 8:55am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It’s a neo-idiom..
    
    feathering your nest has been crossed with crossing your palm
    
    (I think)
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:04am
    - mikenmild
      
      A mixed metaphor.
      Remember CJ from Reginald Perrin?
      
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      December 3, 2016 9:28am
      - fernglas
        
        I didn’t get where I am today by remembering old comedies.
        
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        December 3, 2016 9:32am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Great! Super!!
        
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        December 3, 2016 10:06am
Peter

The Greens want to get rid of trucks

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/greens-want-trucks-off-roads
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December 3, 2016 8:26am
- jonar
  
  I’m looking forward to all the KB replies that have examined their proposals and give informed and considered arguments for or against.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:32am
  - PhilBest
    
    The Greens don’t understand “systems analysis”. I recommend the works of Cesare Marchetti on “whole systems” for transport purposes.
    
    We have a plague of “we know what’s good for you” Watermelons who are fixated on the efficiency of a loaded railway carriage or wagon, at cruising speed.
    
    In fact a loaded vessel on water is more efficient again, but that doesn’t mean we should promote canal-based inland transportation above everything else.
    
    There are fundamental economic realities that explain rails supplanting canals and waterways as the main bulk transport mode, in the 1800’s; and since then roads have replaced rails. One reality is that “rail heads” represent a choke point in system volume capacity; and another reality is that urban land markets “price” access to freight. The more concentrated the freight system, the more of an anti-competitive effect it will be in the local economy.
    
    But I suspect any Green supporter trying to follow this will be way out of their intellectual depth by now, so I will be wasting my time here.
    
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    December 3, 2016 8:46am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    How are you gonna get big goodies into and out of Gizzy?
    
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    December 3, 2016 8:47am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Jonar.
    
    One simple word. Kiakoura.
    
    Come back when the greens have a good idea and try again.
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:37am
  - Kimbo
    
    I’m looking forward to all the KB replies that have examined their proposals and give informed and considered arguments for or against.
    
    Is that like the Greens demanding a Royal Commission into GM, then continuing to disregard the recommendations because it compromised their ability to carve out a voter-niche among the scientifically-averse?
    
    Yeah Nah. They lost the ~~right~~ privilege of me and many others giving them the time to “examine their proposals” ever since. Phone. Off. The. Hook.
    
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    December 3, 2016 11:15am
    - sooty
      
      They are going to cut them all up into little pieces and post them at $1 each. OH wait that will require lots of trucks! So much for that green idea!
      
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      December 3, 2016 11:56am
    - jonar
      
      Haha, if that was everyone’s policy then we’d never get anywhere. Imagine if everyone just used John Key’s “well everyone’s entitled to their opinion but at the end of the day…”
      
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      December 3, 2016 1:17pm
- Liberty
  
  I can see some unease developing in the coalition of losers.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:38am
- Gabby
  
  Dirty little trucker.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:39am
- mandk
  
  Evidently, their policy will make it cheaper to use rail rather than road.
  The only way to make this happen would be to tax trucks out of existence.
  
  I can’t wait to go back to the 19th century.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:42am
- cmm
  
  There are two main reasons people use trucks:
  
  1) They go where trains and ships can’t go. There are no rail lines and shipping canals into the forestry blocks.
  
  2) They’re private companies operating in the free market. Shipping and rail are screwed up by warfie unions and such and have become expensive and unreliable shipping options.
  
  While Greens might be talking up the environment, the real agenda they’re pushing is the second on: giving power back to the warfies and crippling business.
  
  But at the end of the day it does not matter what options they propose. They can promise pink unicorns transporting freight. They won’t ever get in so it doesn’t matter what they say.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:55am
  - jcuk
    
    In recent years or not so recent the idea of vehicles which can operate on road and rail have proliferated.
    Years ago following the road-rail vehicles which extended the ‘railway’ beyond rotorua or somewhere in that area I made a model of a road-railer carrying logs which would have facilitated the withdrawal of logs by road from the forests but saved the wanten destruction of city roads by logging trucks.
    But of course I was ignored by the genius’s up north, who canned the existing road-railers I gather. Cost cutting for part of the story instead of a holistic approach … the story of NZ sadly.
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:46am
    - PhilBest
      
      Actually I think one of the most fantastic suggestions for mobility is the dual-mode car that can run at very high speed on a guideway that is far cheaper to build than a highway; and enter and exit between this and the existing road system.
      
      Small, light vehicles can make do with surprisingly low-cost elevated guideways. One of the wicked problems with road capacity, is that congestion is all about small, light vehicles (cars), but the cost of road space is all about engineering for 20-ton+ vehicles. Even your suburban street has to carry the weight of a fire engine (which is b. heavy).
      
      http://www.tevproject.com/
      
      http://freedomtransit.com/index.html
      
      The beauty of these systems, is that the vehicles can use existing roads anyway, and the elevated guideways are effectively “bypasses”.
      
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      December 3, 2016 12:58pm
  - PhilBest
    
    Going along with what you are saying; as I pointed out above, the need for large volumes of freight to go into a single rail-head before transfer to trucks for local delivery, is a choke point on the total volume able to be handled. Trucking depots are scattered all over the place and quickly replicable when the system needs expanding. Trying to match this, eg with multiple rail-heads, would be a logistical nightmare and would be just another efficiency loss.
    
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    December 3, 2016 1:01pm
- G152
  
  And no doubt no groceries in supermarkets
  
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  December 3, 2016 10:44am
- waikatogirl
  
  Cancel Christmas then as no goods will be getting delivered courtesy of the Gweens new policy of no trucks on the roads!
  
  As usual the Gweens have great timing for their new policy, with the demise of the rail system down the Kaikoura coast road. Since the EQ the number of trucks required to deliver essential goods down the South Island has increased hugely. All the truck drivers can all go home, you are not required any longer.
  
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  December 3, 2016 11:17am
EAD

It was interesting response I got yesterday for my post of detailed research that showed the almost total control those of Jewish descent have over the Swedish Media despite being only 0.2% of the population.

Without this kind of information people would just never even think that there was a racial/ethnic dimension to what they are being exposed to 24/7.

I have taken great care for the past few years to analyse anything and everything that comes out of the MSM. Anti-White, anti-family, anti-tradition, anti-morality, anti-Christian, and especially anti-nationalst. And of course pro-minority, pro-immigration, pro-open borders, pro-feminism, pro-homosexual/perversion, pro-divorce, pro-abortion, pro-anything that assists the strategy for furthering what amounts to white genocide.

It’s good to see people are beginning to understand that every policy setting and all the efforts of the MSM are designed to flood European countries, and only European countries with Third World rubbish and to stop us from breeding and to crush and destroy any vestigial sense of ethnic and cultural pride.

The degenerate ‘Pozzed’ world that these same people have insidiously sold to us is a festering, stinking swamp of filth.

I mean just look at this example in progressive Canada, where state funded CBC calls for the eradication of white people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb55teb1gJ0
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December 3, 2016 8:33am
- mandk
  
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
  
  We’ve got it. It’s all the fault of the Jews.
  
  Enough already. It’s the Shobbos.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:44am
- PhilBest
  
  None of these things is exclusive to Jews. There are Jews and non-Jews alike, in finance, academia, the media, etc, working to whatever ends they are working on.
  
  There are Jews who are good contrarians too. Breitbart is just as Jewish or more so, than the “mainstream” media. The “end the Fed” movement has Jews in it. There are Jews who are among the most effective critics of “the long march through the institutions”.
  
  I am with you quite a way on the vast left-wing conspiracy, but to make it a Jooish plot is absurd.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:53am
  - Paulus
    
    How many Nobel Prizewinners are of the Jewish faith ?
    Now ask yourself how many Nobel Prizewinnere are of the Muslim Faith ?
    I am aware of one who is claimed to be of the Muslim faith but was in no way a Muslim – my wife worked for him at the time of his award.
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:17am
    - mikenmild
      
      About 12 or so, I believe.
      
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      December 3, 2016 9:31am
    - PhilBest
      
      That is a highly relevant point, you can find a disproportionate number of Jews anywhere in intellectual endeavour. That does not make them responsible for the entire field of intellectual endeavour in which they are to be found. Saying that monetary policy rent-seeking is “because of the Jews” or that “the long march through the institutions” is “because of the Jews”, makes about as much sense as saying that rocket science is “because of the Jews”. There might be a lot of Jews who can be credited (or discredited) with their role in those fields, but those fields would still exist without Jews.
      
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      December 3, 2016 1:13pm
  - Kimbo
    
    I am with you quite a way on the vast left-wing conspiracy, but to make it a Jooish plot is absurd.
    
    Welcome back to Kiwiblog after your self-imposed exile, PhilBest. However, as you will soon find if you continue to stick around, what you and nearly everyone else here call absurd, EAD considers his raison d’être.
    
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    December 3, 2016 11:07am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD , name the Jews controlling CBC and RNZ ?
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:12am
- G152
  
  Wow.
  It’s a nazi posting its diatribe
  
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  December 3, 2016 10:47am
wiseowl

Obvious Jonar.
Horses and carts are better.
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December 3, 2016 8:34am
- PhilBest
  
  Actually if you take the Greens main fixation, the energy efficiency of a loaded railway carriage or wagon at cruising speed, anything floating on water beats it. We should rip up the railway tracks and dig canals in their place. Combined with horses and draft animals, clearly the pre-1700 norm was optimum and everything since has been a huge mistake, driven by a planet-raping, profit-gouging scam.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:56am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The Rimutuka spiral will become a worldwide tourist attraction once the water is added. Oh, just a minute, I can see a flaw in the plan . .
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:19am
    - mikenmild
      
      You think canals cannot go uphill or downhill?
      
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      December 3, 2016 9:33am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Mike, I have to back you up here. Falkirk wheel.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tBH9SE-Kw8
        
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        December 3, 2016 6:51pm
    - Ole Bill Mole
      
      Raurimu?
      
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      December 3, 2016 9:40am
    - jcuk
      
      Not really Paulus… you just use pumps to get the water uphill and locks for the barges and you have a wonderful tourist attraction as the UK has found out with Kiwis spending time on hired barges.
      
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      December 3, 2016 9:51am
Chuck Bird

I wonder if the ANZ requires Muslim women to remove their head covering.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/87146489/cancer-patient-asked-to-remove-her-beanie-at-matamata-anz
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December 3, 2016 8:58am
- stephieboy
  
  Why not ask them ?
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:05am
- Nukuleka
  
  I was asked to remove my hat at Kiwibank yesterday by a teller who herself was wearing a Santa hat. Please explain!
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:54am
  - Gabby
    
    Explaining is Losing, but you’re way too sensitive about your male pattern balding.
    
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    December 3, 2016 2:43pm
- Gabby
  
  No, they refuse to serve them if they are unaccompanied by a male relative.
  
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  December 3, 2016 2:44pm
Huevon

So “Mad Dog” Mattis has been confirmed as Trump’s nominee for SecDef

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3994856/How-General-Mad-Dog-world-s-powerful-military-leader-Trump-s-new-Defense-Secretary-says-war-hell-hoot-holes-need-shot-loves-Shakespeare-Roman-philosophy.html

What I wouldn’t give to be fly on the wall at this guy’s first NATO meeting. Finally someone who will tell the lesbians and communists representing the Western European members to STFU.
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December 3, 2016 9:03am
- stephieboy
  
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  “Mad Dog “seems the type who uses Marvel comics and video games as military manuals .
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:08am
  - lilman
    
    Sorry children ,a warrior he is and any raghead or POS that wants to tango can expect Mr Mattis to openthe Night club early.
    
    Allah Akbar get those 77 virgin goats ready theres a rush acoming.
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:28am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      72. Has inflation increased the allocation to 77?
      
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      December 3, 2016 6:54pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    And what service have you provided to your country?
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:32am
  - mara
    
    I’m guessing you’d pee in your panties if he eyeballed you stephieboy.
    
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    December 3, 2016 10:06am
    - stephieboy
      
      mara, very deep !
      
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      December 3, 2016 1:17pm
  - holysheet
    
    It only takes 30 downticks to be rid of this stupidboy
    
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    December 3, 2016 10:45am
  - PhilBest
    
    And as George Orwell pointed out to his once fellow-travellers on the peacenik left:
    
    ‘We only sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us.’
    
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    December 3, 2016 1:20pm
    - cha
      
      And as George Orwell pointed out to his once fellow-travellers on the peacenik left:
      
      Nope.
      
      http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/07/rough-men/
      
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      December 3, 2016 1:40pm
- mikenmild
  
  Could you please name some of the lesbian or communist NATO representatives?
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:34am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    mikenmild is a rep by proxy
    
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    December 3, 2016 6:55pm
- cha
  
  Finally someone who will tell the lesbians and communists representing the Western European members to STFU.
  
  I think Mattis will be the adult in the room, Señor Handshandy.
  
  But in some important policy areas, Gen. Mattis differs from Trump, who has been filling the top ranks of his national security team with hardliners. Gen. Mattis believes, for instance, that Trump’s conciliatory statements towards Russia are ill informed. He views with alarm Moscow’s expansionist or bellicose policies in Syria, Ukraine and the Baltics. And he has told the President-elect that torture does not work.
  
  Despite his tough stance on Iran, Gen. Mattis also thinks that tearing up the Iran nuclear deal would hurt the US, and he favors working closely with allies to strictly enforce its terms.
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/politics/james-mattis-secrtary-of-defense-trump.html
  
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  December 3, 2016 11:32am
Paulus

No – he is just a senile interfering old bastard, who should be put out to grass.
Still cannot understand why nobody loves him !
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December 3, 2016 9:13am
Morrissey

Kim Hill spouts braindead neocon ideology yet again
RNZ National, Saturday 3 December 2016

Kim Hill interviewed an interesting guest at 8:25 a.m. this morning….

Olivier Weber has been a war correspondent for 25 years,covering conflict in Central Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Iraq. He was an assistant professor at the Institut d’études politiques de Paris, President of the Prize Joseph Kessel and former Ambassador of France at large. Olivier Weber has won several national and international awards for literature and journalism, in particular for his stories on Afghanistan and for his books on war. His writing has been translated into a dozen languages. He is touring New Zealand as a guest of Alliance Francaise and will speak in Auckland, Wellington, Palmerston North, Nelson and Christchurch.

Sadly, though, Kim Hill doesn’t seem capable of getting through a political interview without indulging in ritual obeisances to prevailing government messaging. This morning she pretended to be astonished when her guest said that the U.S./U.K. aggression against Iraq had been nothing less than a disaster.

I sent her the following email….

Your politically loaded question to Olivier Weber

Dear Kim,

You asked Olivier Weber, in apparent high seriousness: “So no matter how bad the leader—Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Bashar al-Assad—you shouldn’t go in and get rid of him?” You forgot to mention another convenient focus of Western wrath: Robert Mugabe.

It’s interesting that you chose a triumvirate of officially ordained enemies. Surely it would be equally valid to “go in and get rid of” the likes of Barack Obama, Binyamin Netanyahu and King Salman. Why would you not choose one of those names?

Yours in astonishment at the political bias of our media,

Morrissey Breen
Northcote Point
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December 3, 2016 9:14am
- stephieboy
  
  Morrissey , your rant sounds like its straight out of a Noam Chomsky primrer.
  
  Since when has Obama or Netanyahu been resonsible for the genocide of 1.5 million ( Pol Pot )of their own citizens ?
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:38am
  - Morrissey
    
    Stephie, your glib response—“straight out of a Noam Chomsky primer”—suggests you have not read anything by Chomsky. You need to.
    
    Addressing the point you are trying, however ineptly, to make: no, Obama and Netanyahu certainly are not Pol Pot. However, that they are both criminals is irrefutable. Netanyahu’s regime’s ongoing depradations in the Occupied Territories, as well as the regular escalations into mass murder against the captives in Gaza are infamous. And the saintly Obama has presided over a worldwide network of kidnapping and extrajudicial killing, as well as the destruction of democratic governments, in particular in Central and South America.
    
    Obama’s regime has directly supported the neo-fascist insurrection in the Ukraine, and of course has armed and diplomatically supported ISIS in Syria.
    
    Pol Pot of course is dead and gone, but let’s remember that the United States supported him EVEN AFTER his crimes had been revealed to the world. And so did the United States’ obedient “ally”, New Zealand….
    
    http://www.nzjh.auckland.ac.nz/docs/1999/NZJH_33_2_05.pdf
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:49am
Inandout

I was told by a recent traveller that Paris is a deserted zone compared with 5 years ago.; can anyone here verify this?

This carry on does little to help tourism.

https://www.rt.com/news/369042-armed-man-hostage-paris/
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December 3, 2016 9:30am
- kowtow
  
  I think it’s called the diversity dividend. There are probably more armed soldiers on the streets of the cities and towns of France now than there were during the German occupation, all down to a quiet and ongoing modern invasion.Is it any wonder that electorates are so uneasy ? And just like the last time there are draconian laws against questioning the new invasion.
  
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  December 3, 2016 10:37am
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    In Paris: 2 armed soldiers at the gate of a junior primary school every day for the past year.
    I don’t think it’s to stop the kids from running away –
    
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    December 3, 2016 11:04am
Stars And Stripes

Auckland University’s Law School to take more students, but staff want justice
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11758616.
“The boost in numbers, which has not happened in more than 10 years, would also address the fact that Auckland’s population had significantly expanded over the years.
And although a specific Maori and Pacific quota has not been revealed, the spokesman said the move would also allow for more places for those students under the university’s Targeted Admissions Scheme.”

The racist system is just about to be expanded at the Law School.
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December 3, 2016 9:34am
- Morrissey
  
  You don’t have a clue what racism means, or what it is. You are ignorant.
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:39am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Yes something with a name as mellow and soothing as “Targeted Admissions Scheme” could never be racist.
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:46am
    - Morrissey
      
      No it’s not. You don’t have a clue.
      
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      December 3, 2016 9:54am
      - holysheet
        
        So instead of just being bitchy about it, give us your opinion about how you define racism, and why you think that having a quota for brown people is not!
        
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        December 3, 2016 12:20pm
- nasska
  
  Two scenarios:
  
  Pakeha school leaver, IQ 90, no qualifications looks forward to a career with the Parks & Reserves Dept mowing grass.
  
  Maori or PI school leaver IQ 90, no qualifications looks forward to a brilliant career as a lawyer or judge.
  
  It must be embarrassing to be a Polynesian.
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:42am
  - mikenmild
    
    Tell me how someone with no qualifications becomes a judge…
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:50am
    - nasska
      
      They go to varsity & sit in a seat for 4 or 5 years. Then they get a degree for sitting in a seat for 4 or 5 years but it says that they’ve qualified in law.
      
      After that they wait around until some SJWs decide that they need another token Polynesian judge.
      
      It’s easy when you’re brown.
      
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      December 3, 2016 9:55am
      - mikenmild
        
        You don’t think lawyers have to pass exams, etc, and then distinguish themselves in practising law before being selected as judges?
        
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        December 3, 2016 9:58am
      - holysheet
        
        Good lawyers stay as lawyers, the shitty lawyers become judges. You only have to look at all the stupid decisions from the benches lately for proof.
        
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        December 3, 2016 12:23pm
      - sam green
        
        Waikato Law School (say what you will) has no quotas. A quarter of its students are Maori. Entry and exit criteria is this same for all students.
        
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        December 3, 2016 6:21pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        Very interesting Sam.
        Well if Māori seem to be able to compete against other students and qualify at Waikato then you have to wonder why they apparently cannot cut it without preferential treatment elsewhere.
        Maybe they can but the sickly liberals making these policies just have never given them the chance because they always know better?.
        
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        December 3, 2016 7:49pm
  - stephieboy
    
    nasska , I’ll bet these recent 25 Polynesian medical graduates from Otago University are not feeling embarrassed..
    
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/291053/more-new-maori-doctors-graduating.
    
    Certainly no more than a piece of white trash like you !
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:54am
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Nice one Stephieboy, a link about Polynesian doctors who are actually Māori!!!!.
      
      Anyway how many actually got the same entry grades as European or Asian students?.
      None I bet so in other words they are just token doctors.
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:03am
      - doggone7
        
        Some with better grades for entry are overlooked on grounds of filling ethnic quotas, that is a fact.
        
        What is important is exit grades. nasska’s implication is that the students getting into a course means they do have to do anything, don’t do anything and are conferred with a degree.
        
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        December 3, 2016 10:24am
      - kowtow
        
        Which doctors?
        
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        December 3, 2016 10:40am
      - stephieboy
        
        Stars and Stipes and kowtow etc ,
        
        Do take the trouble and read my link above !
        
        I would say the affirmative action they may of received would be similar to Ben Carson “s
        
        http://samuel-warde.com/2014/07/startling-hypocrisy-conservative-icon-dr-ben-carson/
        
        But most likely less so !
        
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        December 3, 2016 10:53am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      It takes only 30 downticks………….:-)
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:58am
  - Morrissey
    
    People with IQs of 90 or lower go on to careers in talk radio, not the law.
    
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/svbKfZyz3Y4/maxresdefault.jpg
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:56am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Hahaha
      
      Yup and they are considered the cream of the leftie cake too ?
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:15am
    - holysheet
      
      And those with stratospheric Q’s become vegeterians and go on to pester the rest of us. I am a vegeterian don’t you know.
      
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      December 3, 2016 1:01pm
      - GoVege
        
        Holy: has that brill mind of yours ever wondered what could have happened if that asteroid 65 mill years ago had missed the earth?
        You and me and the rest of human-unkind could be being served up right now as dinosaur tucker.
        It’s only luck we are calling the shots.
        Vegetarianism is about showing a little compassion to others who were not so lucky to make it to the top of the food chain.
        
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        December 3, 2016 2:19pm
      - holysheet
        
        Why do vegetarians and new born again christians always have the urge to tell the rest of us what they are. We do not give a toss about your condition. If that makes me uncompassionate, then so be it.
        
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        December 3, 2016 3:41pm
      - GoVege
        
        At least you’ve admitted it holy.
        But aren’t Western values based upon Christian principles such as showing compassion for others?
        
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        December 3, 2016 7:46pm
  - GoVege
    
    You need to widen your social network, nasska.
    I know plenty of young Polynesian professionals and they are very bright.
    (Probably because many Polynesian parents place great emphasis on education).
    You will just have to get used to seeing more brown people in positions of authority….
    
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    December 3, 2016 10:02am
    - nasska
      
      ….”I know plenty of young Polynesian professionals and they are very bright.”…..
      
      Then why do they need quotas to make it?
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:05am
      - stephieboy
        
        nasska , as I just explained whether they need quotas or not they do it no differently than Conservative Icon Dr Ben Carson . From my link ,
        
        1. raised by a single mother
        2. raised in public housing
        3. fed with food stamps.
        4. supported with welfare was-dependent-on-government
        5. kept healthy with medicaid…
        6. educated in public schools
        7. got eyeglasses from state agency
        8. benefited from affirmative action to enter college
        9. used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school
        10. benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school
        11. med school paid for with grant from USPHS*
        12. said: “The disintegration of the family unit and the welfare state are enslaving African-Americans and ruining their futures.”
        
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        December 3, 2016 11:00am
      - GoVege
        
        The kids I know got scholarships, nasska.
        They sat the same exams as all the other students and some ended up with honors degrees.
        
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        December 3, 2016 2:07pm
    - Morrissey
      
      GoVege, you’re wasting your time. You’re arguing in good faith with someone who doesn’t give a toss.
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:06am
      - GoVege
        
        I know, Morrissey.
        Makes you realize why they had to have a civil war to get rid of slavery.
        
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        December 4, 2016 12:14am
    - pentwig
      
      So where is your compassion vege?
      Here your are trolling on a conservative blog extolling your green, communistic views.
      Your dare talk about compassion to your fellow human?
      Hypocrite!!
      
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      December 3, 2016 8:25pm
      - GoVege
        
        I thought I was expressing an opinion, not “trolling”.
        And I’m not a commie.
        I’m a self-employed property owner which probably makes me a capitalist.
        I’m sorry if it hurts your feelings when I remind you that your dinner used to be a sensitive being that didn’t want to die.
        Why don’t you think up a convincing argument to prove me wrong?
        
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        December 4, 2016 12:11am
fernglas

Family members who have lived in Paris all their lives have left for the country; it’s become a shit-hole.
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December 3, 2016 9:35am
- stephieboy
  
  fernglass , this report about Paris suggests that your family members live on another planet ,
  
  http://www.theage.com.au/good-weekend/why-the-ritz-paris-is-more-magnifique-than-ever-20161201-gt1now.html
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:43am
  - fernglas
    
    Sadly, Steve, my rellies didn’t live at the Ritz, but they were near the Stalingrad Metro Station; google that before you get pompous.
    
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    December 3, 2016 10:19am
    - stephieboy
      
      fernglas, most cities have slums and lower socio economic areas and Paris like other areas still retain tourist land marks, glitzy shopping and residential areas like our Epsom and Remuera
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:47am
      - fernglas
        
        Goodness me, I had no idea. I must get out more often.
        
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        December 3, 2016 11:13am
      - PhilBest
        
        And that is “in their favour”, to a lefty who claims to care about human beings and egalitarianism?
        
        EDIT: I guess this is consistent with the spite I often encounter from lefties against Houston, the least segregated city on the planet… it commits the mortal sin of not having any urban planners or centrally imposed zoning…
        
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        December 3, 2016 1:40pm
Happychappy

I see a column penned by Tracy Watkins suggesting Labour and their inept Leader have no Stomach for “Dirty Politics,Fabricating News and other Facts” those were the story’s in the US Elections and they worked but the suggestion has Labour MP’s balked at going down this road. Tracy Watkins then went on to say Labour can’t bring them selves to the language of revolution. Dirty Politics to my knowledge is part of Labour’s Eth’os.
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December 3, 2016 9:36am
BeeSting

More Reference on

Australia soon to be Australastans

HUGE Jihad problem

The Solution was wait for it…..a

“Hackathon”

talk about a bad choice of words
when you consider they want to hack
peoples heads off not a
I DON’T HACK

Hackathon program to shield vulnerable Melbourne teens from Islamic State recruitment

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/hackathon-program-to-shield-vulnerable-melbourne-teens-from-islamic-state-recruitment/news-story/f60a99d27ef4544d1109234b79980bcf

It was ideas sessions an expensive website
and a fancy exclusive dinner?

?
We do know one teen got 10k
for suggesting
the victims of terrorism get to sit down
and talk to the tewwosist

If you lost a family member as some have would
you want to talk to one of these w a n k e rs?

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The growing threat of homegrown extremism has prompted the Federal Government to devote an extra $1.2 billion to national security, including $22 million to combat propaganda and to support community-run programs to counter violent extremism.
>

22 mill down the dunny because melbourne
icon are now on isis propaganda videos

These over paid fat incompetents they
called OZ politicians are now on paid
Christmas Holiday

Have they left their cities and airport undefended?

Time will tell?

One thing we know is they create the problem
and financially benefit from the

“Solutions funded by your taxes”

it is a win win win for them
and a loose loose loose

For everyone else

http://www.startupsmart.com.au/advice/leadership-advice/hackathon-to-combat-violent-extremism/

READ THIS

The winning idea was the Former Network, an online platform connecting former members of extremist groups and survivors of attacks with teachers working in “at-risk” areas.

?????????

These people have lost the plot and lost their
frickin marbles?

??????

How about prevention

???

MyHack event co-ordinator Abdullahi Alim says it’s about ensuring technology and innovation are utilised in this ongoing struggle.

Government, entrepreneurs and large tech companies have come together to create ideas to combat radicalisation and violent extremism in a hackathon-style event.

Over 100 people from the industry and government attended the pitch and cocktail night on Friday at Melbourne Town Hall, with the winning idea receiving $10,000 to develop it into a startup.

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The only thing these well intentioned morons
have guaranteed is the city is a target?

YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS UP

The winning idea was the Former Network, an online platform connecting former members of extremist groups and survivors of attacks with teachers working in “at-risk” areas.
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December 3, 2016 9:46am
- Nermal
  
  This style of writing stirs some old memories.
  
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  December 3, 2016 12:19pm
  - sam green
    
    From 40 comments ago?
    
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    December 3, 2016 5:39pm
- sam green
  
  Witter on Beesting.
  
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  December 3, 2016 5:40pm
Awww C-mon

Apologies to all and sundry if the Gabster is abit out of sorts today, it appears mixing prescription Ritalin with Rohypnol may not have been a good idea after all.
The first few hours were interesting enough but shit got cray-cray after that!
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December 3, 2016 9:49am
- mikenmild
  
  It appears to me that Beesting may be in more urgent need of medical help.
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:52am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    I’m still trying to decide if Beesting is complete and utter nutcase, or just Kea
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:56am
    - mikenmild
      
      I think he is a unique nutter, rather than part of the Kea/Icarus/etc collective.
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:00am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Nothing in that spiel to indicate the phoenix has arisen…..
        but remember our little bird is a clever, clever girl and can run rings around all of us.
        
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        December 3, 2016 10:32am
Southern Raider

The UN has finally lost it.

Syria is an absolute cot case ripped apart by civil war, international power games and ISIS.

And so this is the perfect time the UN has decided to try and force Israel to hand over the Golan Heights to Syria.

If you haven’t been to that area it would be like living in Christchurch and you give your enemies the Port Hills
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December 3, 2016 10:34am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The UN might not have lost it but it’s easy to see who’s side they’re on.
  
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  December 3, 2016 10:42am
- PhilBest
  
  Spot on – Israel is only a few kilometers wide in some places, and it is a truly tiny country.
  
  It shows just how hateful the minds of its critics are, that they expect Israel to tolerate sworn enemies getting the use of high ground literally just up the road. I have several times asked media editors here to publish a map of Israel and its adjuncts superimposed on a well-known part of NZ, eg Kapiti; so that people can see for themselves what a beat-up is going on.
  
  “Muslim Arabs” have several million square kilometers of territory, but the loss of a few dozen square kilometers in “Palestine” becomes the “cause” of a “displaced persons” crisis, and of grievances “justifying” decades of systematic global terrorism?
  
  This would be like a tiny nation being created where Los Angeles is, for the original Red Indian tribe from the area, and the people displaced from the Beverly Hills suburban area, still being in refugee camps decades later, and Americans committing global terror “until the Beverly Hills are given back”.
  
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  December 3, 2016 1:55pm
cha

Sweet. A taxpayer funded bail out of the insurance industry.
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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/308403-gop-in-talks-about-helping-insurers-after-obamacare-repeal
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December 3, 2016 10:34am
- tom hunter
  
  Pfft. The bailout’s have always been built into Obamacare. In fact, one of the reasons for all the squealing from the industry is that a year or so ago, the GOP made a tweak in the rules that blocked the bastards from getting bailed out. You can thank Marco Rubio for that.
  
  Naturally the Democrats were not happy because they knew what it meant for the whole scheme, but they also kept quiet, given the populist, volatile nature of this year’s electorate.
  
  We’ll see where this goes – and I barely trust The Hill to report accurately – but I agree that the insurers should be told to fuck off. They’re a big part of the reason for Obamacare in the first place, because they loved the idea of consumers being forced to buy their stuff, and getting bailed out if the cost corridors proved more expensive than their actuaries had guessed.
  
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  December 3, 2016 10:50am
  - stephieboy
    
    tom hunter, meanwhile the provision of affordable health care for all Americans remains unresolved as you apparently continue to insist on using your ideological crutches .
    
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    December 3, 2016 11:06am
    - PhilBest
      
      And obviously the Democrats are never going to do it, being so beholden to the special interests that are the real reason US healthcare is so expensive – such as Tort lawyers and defensive medicine.
      
      Of course the State-run universal monopoly system that is the preference of lefties in most of the world, can do what it likes – malpractice, rationing, “death panels”, etc – but any system not yet nationalised will be held to diametrically different standards, and then criticised for being too expensive, a demonstration of “the failure of markets” of course.
      
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      December 3, 2016 2:03pm
- Inandout
  
  Obamacare was introduced with indecent haste, and that is why it never took off. Insurers live by actuarial science, and every risk they take on is analysed. With Obamacare they had the system foisted on them without regard to profit and loss.
  I recall when National privatised accident care many companies declined to participate because of the dangers involved in trying to compete with ACC premiums. Those insurers that did jump in were burnt, some severely because they were obliged to take on ACC clients with long term injuries (or ‘tails’ as they were named). The company I worked for lost $24 million.
  
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  December 3, 2016 11:00am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout , those clients with long term injuries ( tails ) hint at why it is dumb to try and involve private providers in the USA in comprehensive affordable health care .
    
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    December 3, 2016 11:10am
    - Inandout
      
      Who pays for this ‘comprehensive’ health care?
      
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      December 3, 2016 11:14am
      - stephieboy
        
        As far as NZ is concerned the tax payer does . I assume the same applies in the US at a federal and state level.
        
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        December 3, 2016 1:19pm
      - PhilBest
        
        And because no-one actually “costs” anything in that system, no-one knows whether the taxpayer is paying several times too much for any given health intervention or not.
        
        Trying to introduce a cost accounting system, will be politically murdered by the mainstream media beating up “money wasted on consultants”.
        
        Was it Alan Gibbs who, decades ago, at his own expense, paid for some forensic cost accounting of the public system, which concluded that most of what it was doing was probably several times too expensive? But keep it opaque and the taxpaying sheeple won’t complain.
        
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        December 3, 2016 2:07pm
  - tom hunter
    
    A few months ago I posted a link on the failure of super-lefty Vermont to proceed with their beloved “Single Payer” Health Plan. All very interesting, but for any right-wingers gaining confidence from the rejection of the stupidity, there was this cautionary note towards the end:
    
    The temptation among conservatives is to do a victory dance of the “I told you so” variety. But that would be a serious mistake.
    
    Hospitals and other industry stakeholders love Obamacare because the law expands coverage without cutting costs. The law basically accepts what hospitals and doctors are paid now, and simply writes a check to cover those costs for people who are uninsured. For-profit hospital chains like Tenet, Community Health, and HCA are enjoying record profits under the new health law.
    
    The same flaw buried at the heart of Medicare that good ole’ LBJ accepted in his political style of greasing the pig. And that flaw, as much as tort laws and the associated lawsuits, or a drive for “profit”, and the profligacy of many employer health insurance schemes, is a substantial part of the reason that healthcare costs in the USA have exploded over the last 50 years. When Medicare started in 1965, the per capita cost of US healthcare was little different to that of other OECD nations, being only 1-2% points higher. That was for a system that was 95/5 private/public.
    
    Plugging in a government sugar daddy system was like feeding meth to an addict. If you’re a hospital, doctor, or health-clinic and you can just charge whatever you want and the government pays it, no-questions asked, then massive sector inflation is what you should expect. For a few years there might have been some pricing sanity, but as Medicare became a larger chunk of the whole system the price mechanism broke down. Now it’s about little more than internal analysis, which is never as good as competition in determining the real cost of something.
    
    As my colleague Bruce Japsen notes, Tenet just announced that it will be the “presenting sponsor of the fourth annual Clinton Health Matters Activation Summit,” during which you can be assured that Tenet will not be complaining about Obamacare, but rather enthusiastically supporting it.
    
    In other words, the same health-industry forces arrayed against single-payer in Vermont will be arrayed against a repeal of Obamacare by Republicans.
    
    So, no. Obamacare won’t hasten the arrival of single-payer health care in the U.S. But it will retard the arrival of truly affordable health care for most Americans.
    
    It’s pretty fucked: with all those forces in the mix it’s going to be a wrenching effort to improve. Every interest group will be screaming.
    
    Of course the “health industry” seems to have forgotten Khrushchev’s admonition about a US businessman selling him the rope he’d use to hang the capitalist West. The short-sighted fucks in the private sector that got onboard with Obamacare don’t realise that if they keep pushing down this road they’re just inviting a backlash. I don’t know how much further Medicare can grow before it really starts screwing up the rest of the goverment.
    
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    December 3, 2016 11:26am
    - cha
      
      a substantial part of the reason that healthcare costs in the USA have exploded over the last 50 years
      
      A friend recently returned after three years in Chicago with a theology degree in hand told me about his ER experience. He and the family were covered by a private group scheme where participants put their hands in their pockets to cover each other.
      
      He took his wife into the ER with a suspected gastro bug only to be told a suite of diagnostics were required, scans, bloods, urine, the works. He’s an ICU nurse by trade and successfully argued the toss for saline, rest and observation and sure enough, his wife was discharged later that evening and he was presented with a $2.5k bill for a four hour lie down. The discussions apparently got somewhat convoluted over his coverage etc, right up until he offered to put his hand in his pocket and bingo, $400 cash and it was a done deal.
      
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      December 3, 2016 11:56am
      - mikenmild
        
        Not at all a completely fucked up system.
        
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        December 3, 2016 12:04pm
    - stephieboy
      
      tom hunters , do update us on Romneycare and his Massachusetts health care reforms?
      
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      December 3, 2016 1:22pm
Manolo

Have any of the pampered and delicate Hollywood celebrities left for Canada yet? If not, why not?
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December 3, 2016 10:44am
G152

Just watched (again) all those little snowflakes and biased media hacks crying their eyes out at the democratising of the US.
Its been a good year
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December 3, 2016 10:54am
Fletch

Congress has agreed to pass new sanctions on Iran. Even all of the Democrats voted for it, apparently angering Obama.

Congress unanimously voted on Thursday to level new sanctions on Iran, sending a clear message that lawmakers stand opposed to the Obama administration’s continued concessions to Tehran in the final months before it leaves office, according to comments provided to the Washington Free Beacon.

The Obama administration, including Secretary of State John Kerry, made a final push in recent weeks to convince lawmakers to abandon the new sanctions, but lawmakers remained firm on Thursday, voting 99-0 to approve the new sanctions. Even Democrats who have supported the White House’s diplomacy voted in favor of the sanctions.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congress-passes-new-iran-sanctions-ignoring-obama-admin-threats/

It looks like everything is coming together under Trump. A push-back of Obama and his loonie ideas.
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December 3, 2016 11:02am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , the so called “free ” beacon misinforms . The Democrats in Congress were instrumental in getting the six nation accord with Iran accepted despite GOP opposition ,
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/11/us/politics/iran-nuclear-deal-senate.html?_r=0
  
  Now I wonder what Trump will do if the other signatories like Russia and China refuse to oblige him ?
  
  China $600 billion trade and investments in Iran,
  
  http://www.mei.edu/content/map/defying-expectations-china’s-iran-trade-investments
  
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  December 3, 2016 11:14am
- SPC
  
  Iran as the new Cuba under permanent US sanctions?
  
  Cuba as the ally of the commies during the Cold War, and Iran as an ally of terrorists – actually most terrorists and funders are Sunni Moslems. So it’s Iran as a greatest threat to Israel that is to be singulalrly suppressed. Is protecting Israel’s ambition to continue occupation of the West Bank now the centrepoint of the US foreign policy and defence policy?
  
  Is there going to be the same focus to contain regional powers in eastern Europe or in East Asia?
  
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  December 3, 2016 1:15pm
  - SPC
    
    What is the US position on Islamist states?
    
    They supported one in Afghanistan over a leftist secular regime backed by Russia – till it hosted a group that attacked them.
    
    They have alliances with Saudi Arabia and Turkey despite them suppporting Islamist takeover in Syria (including the local branch of the group once based in Afghanistan that attacked the USA). They were happy with Islamist takeover in Syria, but not in Iraq.
    
    At this point the consistent position is that they use Islamists to takeover leftist secular states – Afghanistan (their own takeover of Iraq and handing it to the Shia majority) and Syria, thus it is part of the Cold War era of enmity to secular socialist regimes that resist global capitalism.
    
    But with Iran, the subplot is a Shia axis that poses a threat to Israel – that was either resisted by an Islamic State and regime change in Syria or by permanent sanctions on them.
    
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    December 3, 2016 1:51pm
Manolo

President Obama is rapidly becoming a whining and moaning POTUS, who blames everyone but himself.

The sooner this incompetent leaves, the better.
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December 3, 2016 11:06am
Fletch

Recount news. It seems Trump’s lead in Pennsylvania has dropped from 71,000 to 49,000. I don’t see how that is possible, to be honest. Is it possible the Dems trying to rig the recount? Not sure how much left they have to count.

Meanwhile, two motions are underway to stop the recounts in Michigan and Wisconsin.

https://apnews.com/f0a3999a748d4c57a89962db68fdaef1?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
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December 3, 2016 11:13am
- fernglas
  
  We know the election was rigged. Donald Trump told us many times. So why should this come as a surprise?
  
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  December 3, 2016 11:16am
  - Fletch
    
    I don’t think the Left will stop at anything to try and keep Trump from the presidency, even to the point of rigging recounts.
    
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    December 3, 2016 11:46am
    - stephieboy
      
      Fletch , come on ! You can’t have it both ways . Trump did very clearly say the vote was rigged prior to 8/11
      
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      December 3, 2016 1:24pm
- PhilBest
  
  The Democrats are past masters at this sort of thing…
  
  http://www.conservapedia.com/Al_Franken#Fraudulent_Election.3F
  
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  December 3, 2016 2:20pm
- cha
  
  Michigan recount to go ahead.
  
  http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/after-trump-objection-fails-michigan-heads-toward-presidential-recount-n691346?cid=sm_tw
  
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  December 3, 2016 4:32pm
Manolo

Mt Roskill circa 2060?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2312363/woman-in-saudi-arabia-faces-calls-for-her-execution-after-being-pictured-without-a-hijab/

A woman in Saudi Arabia is facing calls for her execution after she was pictured without a hijab.

Malak Al Shehri sparked fury on social media after she went out in public in the conservative capital Riyadh without a full body cloak – called an abaya – or a veil.
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December 3, 2016 11:15am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo I trust you hopefully wont be around to witness you latest venture into loony ideas !
  
  Do you think Trump now will impose sanctions on Saudi Arabia ?
  
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  December 3, 2016 11:22am
  - Manolo
    
    Jokes aside, what do you think about such oppressive intolerance? Are women chattels in your Muslim playbook?
    
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    December 3, 2016 11:25am
    - Inandout
      
      Yes they are chattels and that is why womens’ groups all over the world are protesting this. Wait, I’ll read that again….
      
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      December 3, 2016 12:32pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Inandout , it is no accident you are anti feminist and women rights like your alt right colleagues here ?,
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/12/a_great_speech_from_an_11_year_old.html#comments
        
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        December 3, 2016 12:58pm
BeeSting

They have had a busy year assimilating
and it is not over yet

Desecration of Christian graves what next

B u r n in g Churches?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/cossacks-confront-man-accused-of-destroying-orthdox-graves-at-sydneys-rookwood-cemetery-20160324-gnqmkn.html

So on Thursday four members of Sydney’s Cossack community, dressed in military garb went to Burwood Local Court to confront a man accused of destroying 50 Orthodox Christian graves at Sydney’s Rookwood cemetery.
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December 3, 2016 12:26pm
- Inandout
  
  Look at the photo of the accused. You see similar types in malls and on the street all over Auckland; sour emotionless faces. Sad that it takes other immigrants to face up to these camel rooters, as it should be Aussies who take some action.
  
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  December 3, 2016 12:36pm
- cha
  
  They’re coming to get you , b’sting,.
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  http://buzzfeedusa.com/us-military-personnel-forced-submit-shariah-law/
  
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  December 3, 2016 12:49pm
- stephieboy
  
  BeeSting, burning of Synagogues ? Not so far . Jewish graves desecrated with swastikas etc at Dunedin last year ,
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11402612
  
  And in Auckland 2012 ,
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10841595
  
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  December 3, 2016 12:55pm
SPC

Unemployment down to 4.6% in the USA – lowest since 2007 a year before the GFC.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38181041
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December 3, 2016 12:44pm
- Fletch
  
  Officially, yes. But that doesn’t tell the whole story.
  
  While the number of employed increased by 9.8 million and the number of unemployed decreased by 3.8 million, the number of Americans not in the labor force increased by 13.5 million while the civilian non-institutional population increased by 19.8 million.
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/29/americas-economy-before-obama-versus-after-obama/
  
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  December 3, 2016 1:14pm
  - SPC
    
    Happens when old people retire – baby boomers and children are born. Also self employment.
    
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    December 3, 2016 1:18pm
- Reid
  
  Do you not realise the US only reports active job-seekers thus all the people who’ve given up looking aren’t recorded and when you add those in the number is around 20-25%?
  
  No, of course you don’t.
  
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  December 3, 2016 2:34pm
  - Inandout
    
    Those on food stamps has markedly increased.
    
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    December 3, 2016 3:37pm
  - SPC
    
    Deliberately trying to obscure the facts reid?
    
    The measurement has not changed since 2007 – comparing like with like, the rate is lower than in 2007.
    
    Sure there is more part-time employment, more casual, more self employment and lower pay full-time jobs than back then.
    
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    December 3, 2016 3:40pm
    - SPC
      
      http://www.businessinsider.com.au/number-of-people-on-food-stamps-plummeting-faster-than-ever-before-2016-9?r=US&IR=T
      
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      December 3, 2016 3:44pm
SPC

The secret of a nation’s education success – the quality of teaching and the best teachers go to those most in need, not the elite schools.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38145491
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December 3, 2016 12:47pm
- PhilBest
  
  Hmmm, it also seems to work best in monocultural nations rather than multicultural ones.
  
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  December 3, 2016 2:25pm
Scott

Looking forward to a Trump presidency. Let’s face it, the Democrats have been terrible.

Just saw an article about crime in Chicago, a city run by Democrats. This year there have been 700 homicides so far and 4000 have been wounded. This in a city of less than 3 million people.

Some has got to do something, it’s a war zone in there. And the victims are overwhelming black.

That’s Democrats, they talk about caring for the poor and the coloured person but as Trump says they are all talk and no action.
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December 3, 2016 1:46pm
- PhilBest
  
  Trump has been bragging that inner city dwelling racial minorities will vote for him next time, because he is going to change all this, unlike the “caring” Democrats and their utopian approaches that have made no difference other than for the worse.
  
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  December 3, 2016 2:23pm
- Fletch
  
  Chicago is also a no-gun zone. Just goes to show you what anti-gun laws do for a city.
  
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  December 3, 2016 2:32pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch , misleading and misinforming as usual . Guns by our standards are readily available in Illinois and plentiful just across the state border .
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/20/charleston-south-carolina-shooting-gun-control-reform-myths
    
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    December 3, 2016 4:38pm
SPC

Trump phone calls the President of Taiwan, the first US President or President elect to do so since 1979.

How long before Russell Norman phones Donald to say well done in standing up to power, when New Zealand leaders no longer do so.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11759846
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December 3, 2016 2:19pm
- stephieboy
  
  Trump turning the clock back to the good old times of Cash me Check ?
  
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  December 3, 2016 3:47pm
- cha
  
  The first POTUS or PEOTUS to make contact with a Taiwanese leader since 1979.
  /
  
  Uh-oh. I wasn't even allowed to refer to the gvt "of" Taiwan. (I could say gvt "on" Taiwan.) China will go nuts. https://t.co/vJcBD2rika— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) December 2, 2016
  
  The mayor of Taoyuan confirmed rumors on Wednesday that US president-elect Donald Trump was considering constructing a series of luxury hotels and resorts in the northwest Taiwanese city.
  
  A representative from the Trump Organization paid a visit to Taoyuan in September, expressing interest in the city’s Aerotropolis, a large-scale urban development project aimed at capitalizing on Taoyuan’s status as a transport hub for East Asia, Taiwan News reports.With the review process for the Aerotropolis still underway, Taoyuan’s mayor referred to the subject of the meeting as mere investment speculation. Other reports indicate that Eric Trump, the president-elect’s second son and executive vice president of the Trump Organization, will be coming to Taoyuan later this year to discuss the potential business opportunity.
  
  http://shanghaiist.com/2016/11/18/trump_taiwan_expand.php
  
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  December 3, 2016 3:54pm
cha

Kittens for all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/politics/trumps-off-the-cuff-remarks-to-world-leaders-leave-diplomats-aghast.html
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December 3, 2016 2:22pm
- itstricky
  
  Meh. Construction, diplomacy, it’s all the same thing in the post-truth world.
  
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  December 3, 2016 6:15pm
rightoverlabour

I see the cops are wasting their time and our money again. Sent the armed offenders squad into a crate party as some numpty neighbour can’t tell the difference between a Fire cracker and a gun shot. How about asking the idiot neighbour some qustons like ” sure it wasn’t a fire cracker? Did you see anybody with a gun? Before disrupting everybofies lives and wasting time and resources. Trouble is when some rag head does let one off they’ll all be busy revenue collecting or investigating fire crackers, umbrellas that look like swords and kids playin cops and robbers.
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December 3, 2016 3:00pm
BeeSting

Must be Time for some

Cossack Music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t74er5nTMHo

Cossacks never say die
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December 3, 2016 4:06pm
- stephieboy
  
  And sided with the Nazis and lost ,
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cossack_Cavalry_Division
  
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  December 3, 2016 4:44pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Interestingly, a NZ general, Steve Weir, was in the thick of turning the Cossacks over to the Russians.
    
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    December 3, 2016 5:00pm
    - stigie
      
      That reminds me of the Lada Cossack, what a piece of shit that was..?
      
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      December 3, 2016 5:35pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        I wonder if our resident Russian (Andrei) agrees with you. It seems that Vladimir Putin likes his Lada Cossacks:
        
        The Lada Niva or VAZ-2121 (Russian: Лада Нива; Niva (нива) is the Russian word for “crop field”) is an off-road vehicle designed and produced by the Russian (former Soviet) manufacturer AvtoVAZ. It was also marketed as the Lada Sport in Iceland, Lada Taiga in Austria, Bognor Diva in Uruguay, the Lada Cossack in Great Britain, and is offered since 2009 on most markets as the Lada 4×4.
        …
        A notable Niva buyer in May 2009 was Russia’s then-premier Vladimir Putin. He flaunted his camouflage-painted Opel-engined offroader in the Russian media, allegedly to support domestic car producers despite the financial crisis.
        
        It would take balls to tell Vladimir Putin that he’s driving a “piece of shit” – full credit to you mate!
        
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        December 3, 2016 5:51pm
      - nasska
        
        However bad the Lada 4 x 4s may be at least they’re head & shoulders above NZ’s attempt at local manufacturing. Nothing, but nothing, was ever so awful, so unreliable or so abysmally designed as (drum roll):
        
        http://www.trekka.co.nz/
        
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        December 3, 2016 6:36pm
      - stigie
        
        Forgot about the Trekka Nasska, now that was a sack of shit. Why NZ manufactured these has got me beat !~
        
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        December 3, 2016 6:41pm
      - nasska
        
        The answer lay in the foreign exchange restrictions of the day stigie. If my memory serves me correctly you needed one third of the price of a new car in overseas funds otherwise you joined the rest of the mugs paying new price for three year old vehicles.
        
        The Trekka concept wouldn’t have been so bad if they hadn’t gone for the hopeless Skoda Octavia mechanicals.
        
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        December 3, 2016 6:47pm
      - stigie
        
        Nasska:- Skoda has come a long way since the early days of sheer unreliable crap, the current Skoda’s seem to be selling quite well.
        BTW didn’t Reddy have a 60s Skoda or did i dream that one dark night when he was featuring here..?
        
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        December 3, 2016 6:58pm
      - nasska
        
        We never got to confirm or deny that stigie. One time when he was big noting about his life I did suggest that he had a Skoda parked outside his pensioner flat, drank Lion Red & played Lotto on Saturday nights but the old gummer wouldn’t rise to the bait. 🙂
        
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        December 3, 2016 7:07pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Redbaiter on “a real V8”: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/05/general_debate_4_may_2014.html/comment-page-2#comment-1315884
        
        Nasska wasn’t impressed: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/05/general_debate_4_may_2014.html/comment-page-3#comment-1315906
        
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        December 3, 2016 7:14pm
      - stigie
        
        Those were good days Nostra, how can we get him back for one last showdown..?
        
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        December 3, 2016 7:17pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Redbaiter always had something of the air of a Social Credit man about him…
        
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        December 3, 2016 7:20pm
      - stigie
        
        Nostra:- To nasska’s credit, he took it all in his stride the shit that Reddy came up with………
        
        “That’s rich from someone who still drives a 57 Fergie into town and has sex with his sister.”
        
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        December 3, 2016 7:25pm
Manolo

Mamma Merkel cops it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3993266/German-father-four-berates-Merkel-virtual-town-hall-meeting-open-doors-immigration-policy-saying-afraid-time-life.html

A German father of four took Chancellor Angela Merkel to task over her refugee policy at a virtual town-hall style meeting.

The 62-year-old was speaking to members of her Christian Democratic Union Party from Berlin via video chat when she was challenged by a party member from Frankfurt.

He told her he was ‘afraid’ for the first time in his life and argued the chancellor’s policies on migration went against what many Germans wanted, it has been reported.
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December 3, 2016 4:56pm
BeeSting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b11-37Me_a4c
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December 3, 2016 6:33pm
BeeSting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_Aircraft#/media/File:Sikorsky_Aircraft_Corporation_ad_Model_S-42_Clipper_Flying_Boat_1937.jpg

Ukrainian Cossack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky

Escaped Communist Genocide and invented the
Helicopter

Which will be a useful tool in keeping
the free world Free this Christmas
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December 3, 2016 6:36pm
- sam green
  
  Bedtime BeeSting. Don’t forget your teeth.
  
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  December 3, 2016 6:43pm
  - nasska
    
    They’ll be in a glass on the bedside cabinet sam. 🙂
    
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    December 3, 2016 6:50pm
- stephieboy
  
  BeeSting , just before bedtime and your hot milk , Igor Sikorsky was born Kiev Ukraine but there is no evidence he joined the Cossacks .
  
  Additionally he left Russia only because the disruption caused by the Revolution and the War made him feel there was little prospect of developing his aviation ideas and concepts . He felt his best chance was in the United Sates .
  
  https://www.britannica.com/biography/Igor-Sikorsky
  
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  December 3, 2016 7:11pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    good heavens – I upticked stephie 🙂
    
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    December 3, 2016 8:09pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      What, for cut and pasting from Wiki?
      
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      December 3, 2016 8:25pm
big bruv

Im watching the sports news and on comes a clip of some rough looking fat chicks purporting to play 7’s. It seems that they are the NZ team and it also seems they beat the Aussie’s (a nation that does not take Rugby seriously) . it also seems that the Aussie team are Olympic champions (I do seem to remember something about this and the embarrasing display the NZ team demonstrated when they lost) and the NZ team were out for “revenge”. Why is it that every team that beats the NZ sides are deemed to have done something that needs revenging?…its just juvenile and pathetic.
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December 3, 2016 6:50pm
- mikenmild
  
  ‘juvenile and pathetic’
  
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  December 3, 2016 7:26pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Noticed it too MM, perfect end to one of his whiney little moans
    
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    December 3, 2016 8:48pm
- Gabby
  
  It’s cos reporters watch too much pro wrestling. That accounts for their political reporting too.
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:06pm
- doggone7
  
  “… some rough looking fat chicks…” ?
  
  Should’ve gone to Specsavers I reckon.
  Maybe a chance of a Christmas deal while at it – go to Brainsavers too.
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:25pm
BeeSting

the only Aus politician who
stands up for Votes and Rights for
Kiwis of all races and creeds in Australia

had to cancel a meeting because of death
threats and violence

Nothing has changed since the
Bolshevik Revolution has it

Only Arstraylia under the left
or it it Centre left
would stop all NZ woman from voting
after NZ was first to give Woman the Vote

Celebrate a NZ ac day and not
allow the NZ to serve in the Army

I hope they have the SAS , Commandos
and helicopters on stand by for the

… Xmas Period

or is it now the
SSF

Socialist Stupidity Festival

Happy Vomit Holidays

and remember

Camel P i s s is good for you
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December 3, 2016 7:05pm
stephieboy

BeeSting,

“Camel P i s s is good for you” ?

Didn’t realise your drinking tastes were that extensive
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December 3, 2016 7:14pm
- mikenmild
  
  I think he’s been taking something a mite more powerful than camel piss.
  
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  December 3, 2016 7:24pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Aaaaaghh….I upticked stephie again. 🙁
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:11pm
  - Flash
    
    Get a grip man!
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:42pm
Tauhei Notts

I thought the National Party’s woman would have run the Labour man close.
But it is a Labour whitewash.
Astounding!
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December 3, 2016 8:14pm
- mikenmild
  
  Only someone who gets their political information from Kiwiblog comments could have thought that.
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:16pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Thank heavens for Michael Wood. The community will be much safer when he deals with the penis lolly problem!
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/michaelwoodnz/status/35849177414107136
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:49pm
- SPC
  
  DPF will post on Kiwiblog how National slashed the Labour majority in the seat and how the result met expectations, meanwhile National will privately celebrate tanking the contest to keep Little in the job till the next election.
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:27pm
SteveRemmington

What is interesting is that of the 10k votes cast counted to date extrapolated against David Littles 8% PM Popularity only 800 so so far would want him as PM.

The guy has to be a political leper.
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December 3, 2016 8:29pm
BeeSting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi
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December 3, 2016 8:48pm
- mikenmild
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummy
  
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  December 3, 2016 8:52pm
Captain Mainwaring

So the Liabore dickhead won the safe seat of Mt. Roskill by a couple of thousand votes less than Goof won it by last time and it’s a ‘landslide’.
At least Angry will feel happy on his long flight to India.
Until he digests that his party is really at 23% and heading south.
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December 3, 2016 9:10pm
- mikenmild
  
  Percentages tell a slightly different story:
  2014: Goff (LAB) 55.8% vs Parmar (NAT) 31.6%
  2016: Wood (LAB) 66.3% vs Parmar (NAT) 27.6%
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:19pm
  - stephieboy
    
    and the PM wont be attending Mrs Parmar’s funeral Pyre tonight ?
    
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/11/article-1249898-083C725D000005DC-565_468x311.jpg
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:21pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    And when the Greenie votes (no candidate) go to Liabore, it all pretty much evens out.
    Nothing to panic about.
    Business as usual.
    
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    December 3, 2016 9:36pm
- stephieboy
  
  Captain , and where did the alt right tard vote go ?
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:19pm
- Gabby
  
  Speaking of dickheads, you can prolly ungum your helmet from your crusty yfronts with a good soaking in warm water.
  
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  December 3, 2016 9:28pm
BeeSting

are they still using Spears in Mt Roskill?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=887397

Somali ‘used spear’ to kill Tongan, witness says
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December 3, 2016 10:02pm
BeeSting

Luke Gospel was Written in the Syrian City of Antioch now
it accurately describes
the current state of affairs in Syria
and the general rabid anti christian state of the world and what was coming and is here now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Syria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_the_Evangelist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioch

Luke 21:5-19New International Version (NIV)

The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times
5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, 6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”

7 “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”

8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. 9 When you hear of wars and uprisings, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.”

10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

12 “But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. They will hand you over to synagogues and put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. 13 And so you will bear testimony to me. 14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. 15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. 17 Everyone will hate you because of me. 18 But not a hair of your head will perish. 19 Stand firm, and you will win life.

Crucified and beheaded – Christians slaughtered for refusing Islam

http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=71425

“In front of the team leader and relatives in the crowd, the Islamic extremists cut off the fingertips of the boy and severely beat him, telling his father they would stop the torture only if he, the father, returned to Islam.

“When the team leader refused, relatives said, the ISIS militants also tortured and beat him and the two other ministry workers. The three men and the boy met their deaths in crucifixion.”

Militants also grabbed eight aid workers, two of whom were women from another village.

The women were both raped before their executions.

“Villagers said some were praying in the name of Jesus, others said some were praying the Lord’s Prayer, and others said some of them lifted their hands to commend their spirits to Jesus. One of the women looked up and seemed to be almost smiling as she said, ‘Jesus!'”

The Christians’ bodies were then hung on crosses and left as a warning to anyone who dares turn from Islam.

Patrick Sookhdeo, the founder of humanitarian aid group Barnabas Fund, claims ISIS’ actions take Christians back 1,000 years, then claimed the terrorist group makes Nazis look tame.

“Crucifying these people is sending a message and they are using forms of killing which they believe have been sanctioned by Sharia law,” Sookhdeo stated.

“For them what they are doing is perfectly normal and they don’t see a problem with it. It is that religious justification which is so appalling.”
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December 3, 2016 10:37pm
- sam green
  
  Fuck off.
  
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  December 3, 2016 10:44pm
  - sam green
    
    And off did BeeSting fuck ………
    
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    December 3, 2016 10:45pm
    - sam green
      
      Fucked right fucking off to fuck off land ……
      
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      December 3, 2016 10:47pm
BeeSting

You need to get back to removing
Big bad Brians tax free status
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December 3, 2016 11:44pm
- sam green
  
  You need to stop making assumptions.
  
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  December 3, 2016 11:48pm
BeeSting

Bill Warner, PhD: Jihad vs Crusades

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

Comparison of Crusades versus Jihad

548 Battles against Classical World

Watch the animation

Hardly a hand full in the Crusades
the Crusades defensive and were about freeing Christians.

Jihad was about enslaving Kaffirs
there is no Comparison

The Crusades are Over

Jihad is ongoing

The Crusades have ended

Jihad is being waged today as we speak
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December 3, 2016 11:49pm
BeeSting

Syrian Girl Free in OZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifS0fi9WB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrEPadG0pQk
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December 3, 2016 11:53pm
Manolo

Not very flattering:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-charm-of-not-being-obama-1480723697

Barack Obama will retire a president personally popular with the American people yet who served them (and himself, and his party) badly.
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December 4, 2016 6:51am
Manolo

The washed-out singer bitches:
https://apnews.com/2a63edffcdde472686ff3709fe30a304/Madonna-raises-$7.5M-for-Malawi,-slams-Trump-in-Miami-show
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December 4, 2016 6:54am
Manolo

Matteo could be on his bike tomorrow:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/03/italy-referendum-defeat-would-complete-matteo-renzis-rapid-downfall

But somewhere along the way, even as Italy saw slight improvements in the economy and rebuilt its international reputation after years of damage wrought by Berlusconi, Renzi appears to have failed to gain the trust of an overwhelming majority of Italian voters.
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