General Debate 2 December 2016

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Paulus Gnome

Radio red’s mouthpiece on Moaning Report tells us that labours internal polling shows that Michael Wood will be a ‘shoe in’ for the Mt Roskill by-election.

Another show us the money moment; show us the poll.

Good luck to Parmjeet Parmar in her attempt to become the first candidate to take the seat for common sense and personal responsibility in more than 35(?) years
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December 2, 2016 8:04am
- cmm
  
  I will be very surprised if Labour take this.
  
  Look at: http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2014/electorate-28.html
  
  Mt Roskill voted National AND Goff. That means Goff got in on his own personality (ahem) alone. He likely pulled the Labour party vote up.
  
  Substitute in a no-name like Michael Woods and people will vote along party lines (ie National). Any face recognition advantage will go to Parmjeet Parmar.
  
  My $5 says another kick in the balls for Andy.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:17am
  - stephieboy
    
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    cmm, I would of thought also the National candidate Parmjeet Parma was a wee bit too multicultural for your tastes ?
    
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    December 2, 2016 8:40am
    - holysheet
      
      Remember good KB’s, 30 downticks and stupidboy is gone
      
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      December 2, 2016 9:04am
      - GoVege
        
        What’s the matter sheet?
        Can’t you and your mates tolerate a different viewpoint?
        Wouldn’t want to live in your house.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:17am
      - holysheet
        
        No you wouldn’t veg, the daily intake of meat would really turn you into a gibbering wreck, despite your stratospheric IQ
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:22am
      - GoVege
        
        Sounds like all that animal-eating brings out the carnivore in you.
        Pounce on anyone who dares to differ and eliminate them.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:40am
      - jonar
        
        Hidden comments are more likely to be read.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:44am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      What a stupid, patronising comment Sillyboy.
      To be expected from the village idiot I guess.
      
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      December 2, 2016 9:05am
      - sam green
        
        Go for it Cap’n – they don’t like it up’em.
        
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        December 2, 2016 10:06am
      - starboard
        
        why aren’t you in school green sam ..free milk day today.
        
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        December 2, 2016 10:29am
      - sam green
        
        Mind wandering again Starboard?
        
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        December 2, 2016 11:01am
    - cmm
      
      What a fuckwit.
      
      I have no problem with an individual’s race, religion, creed, gender or sexual orientation.
      
      I do have a problem with people demanding special treatment because of these attributes.
      
      When different races have different outcomes that is immediately ascribed to racism, but a far better explanation would be that different races have different IQ distributions.
      
      Because you are a stupid person stephie, I will have to explain that more clearly for you. The distribution for, say, Sub-Sahara black people is far lower than that for Europeans (which is, in turn, lower than that for East Asians).
      
      That does not mean that ALL whites have a higher IQ than ALL blacks. It just means that the % of blacks above a specific IQ point is lower than the % of whites (who are in turn lower than East Asians).
      
      For example, to be a successful engineer/doctor requires an IQ of at least 125 or so. Only one in 20 or so whites gets that level. Since the distribution for blacks is about 1 standard deviation lower, we only see one in 300 blacks reach that level.
      
      IQ is just another human attribute like height. Some races tend to be taller than other races. eg. East Africans tend to be taller than West Africans. Does that mean ALL East Africans are taller than ALL West Africans? No. And if we are selecting people based on how tall they are we should extect there to be far more East Africans than West Africans.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:21am
      - GoVege
        
        If your theory is correct, cmm, then how come breast-feeding is supposed to increase IQ?
        BTW, an African doctor saved a baby in our family after the ignorant white midwives nearly killed him.
        
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        December 2, 2016 10:27pm
  - Scott
    
    CMM – although I very much could be persuaded to agree with you and feel your passion on this, don’t forget we have to play a long game.
    As I have said on a number of occasions I think Andy Little is a splendid leader of the Labor Party and should definitely lead them into the next election. I would hate to see him to dethroned from leadership and replaced by someone who might be, how can I put this, popular with the electorate.
    So it’s very important that Andy stays on. I’m sure that you see that now.
    
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    December 2, 2016 8:45am
    - waikatogirl
      
      If Wood does win Mt Roskill I do hope he refrains from parking his campaign van in disabled parking, as he was shown to be doing in a recent photo.
      
      Perhaps the Mt Roskill towies can make a special effort to remove the red van painted with the Liabore logo if he favours these parks again.
      
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      December 2, 2016 9:14am
      - kowtow
        
        Labour is disabled.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:54am
      - Paulus
        
        I am told it is his wife that one has to look out for – she is a real lefty not like her mousy husband.
        
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        December 2, 2016 1:30pm
    - cmm
      
      Scott. No passion, just calling it as it looks.
      
      The whole point of having an adversarial political system is to raise the bar to get a better outcome for everyone.
      
      The All Blacks don’t improve when they play against Japan or Canada. They only get to improve playing against Oz.
      
      The same for the government. If all they’re up against is Andy then they can dick around as much as they want, get sloppy and still win.
      
      Nobody really wins out of that – least of all us.
      
      As for finding another leader… Looks to me like the shelf is empty. They’d have to recycle Shearer or convince King to give it a go.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:41am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Whilst I would be delighted if Dr Parmar wins, I expect Wood to come out on top. However it will be with a greatly reduced majority, and that in itself will ramp up the pressure on Phil Little.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:03am
    - Biscuit
      
      Never, Keeping Stock!
      
      The Labour Party machine have their press releases all ready:
      
      If Wood wins big, it’ll be touted as a portent of the way the country is coming round to Labour’s viewpoint under the Great Leader.
      
      If Wood wins narrow, the line will be that the electorate wanted to send John Key a message but realised that nothing much would change as a result of one by-election and that they’d obviously decided to hold their vote until the 2017 General Election.
      
      If Wood loses, the thing must be rigged!
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:00am
- VicParking
  
  Red radio steeped up its hit job on Parmjeet Parmar is morning with a vengence. It seems that our Government funded Radio station has realised that a win for Parmjeet would be the death knell for Angry Andy and is team of Union puppets. Kim and her team has dragged up every leftest expert to tell us how unsociable Parmjeet is and how she is not suitable as a constituent member of parliment.
  GO PARMJEET I’m hopefull the voters of Mt Roskill will see through the leftist ballshit.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:27am
  - cmm
    
    RNZ don’t get that nobody really takes their suggestions seriously.
    
    At 9am they had a story on some spat at the NZ ballet between the dancers and the artistic director.
    
    Main points:
    * NZ ballet gets over $5M of trough funding.
    * Ballet dancers are unionised.
    * Ballet has always been really hard work, but Gen Snowflake dancers don’t like “mean” artistic director.
    
    What % of the population thinks having NZ Ballet funded to the tune of $5M is a Good Idea? I can’t believe it is more than 5%.
    
    If they can’t stand on their own two feet with ticket sales then they are clearly not providing enough value.
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:28am
- howitis
  
  Paulus, the seat has not been held continuously by Far Goff.
  He lost the election in 1990 to Gilbert Myles who stood for National.
  Myles turned out to be a disappointment – a one term party hopper.
  
  Far Goff had to go and get a real job – well not really he went to be a lecher-type at Manukau Tech. Salary around $50k pa despite telling us as a cabinet minister in early 1990 earning $50k pa that he was worth 3 x that in the open market. He clearly was not. …and this economic wizard has control of Auckland Schitty council.
  
  The salaries and perks to NZ MPs are now outrageously high esp when compared to large democracies. For a start you could get rid of one quarter and make zero difference to the legislative process.
  
  How Britain gets anything done with 650 MPs plus a house of lords is beyond me.
  Still, Niue has a 20 MPs in its parliament for 1200 people. Now that’s democracy 🙂 They can all walk to parliament after breakfast at home.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:54am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    That’s one blight Goff can never erase from his CV. He’s the only person in New Zealand ever to have lost a parliamentary election to Gilbert Myles!
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:05am
    - PhilBest
      
      Wasn’t he one half of the comedy team Myles and Rudge?
      
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      December 2, 2016 9:43am
    - starboard
      
      I knew Gilbert Myles back in the early 80’s. He and his wife owned a commercial cleaning business in Auckland. Big follower of the gee gee’s. Not the brightest bloke, but harmless.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:34am
  - Inandout
    
    Gilbert Myles was more than a ‘disappointment’.
    
    ‘Myles, a former National MP, was convicted in Auckland District Court yesterday of attempting to pervert the course of justice, but acquitted of a charge of conspiring to use documents with intent to defraud’.
    2011
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5191882/Former-MP-convicted-but-lawyer-protests
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:34am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      It’s odd that the media still refers to Myles as a “former National MP”. Sure, he was elected in the Bolger landslide in 1990, but became an independent MP less than a year after being elected, then he formed the Liberal Party with Hamish McIntyre. The Liberals then became part of the Alliance, at which point Myles became a member of NZ First. And he was actually back in Parliament in 1999 as a List MP for NZ First.
      
      So many parties, so little time! But he can always dine out on being the man who stopped Phil Goff from having a 35 year continuous run as MP for Mt Roskill.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:13am
Manolo

The long battle ahead:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obamacare-republicans-repeal-replace-232025

Congressional Republicans are setting up their own, self-imposed deadline to make good on their vow to replace the Affordable Care Act. With buy-in from Donald Trump’s transition team, GOP leaders on both sides of the Capitol are coalescing around a plan to vote to repeal the law in early 2017 — but delay the effective date for that repeal for as long as three years.
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December 2, 2016 8:08am
Keeping Stock

Oh dear; the morning before the Mt Roskill by-election, the Herald has a story featuring the National and Labour Party leaders.

There’s just one problem; instead of Andrew Little, the Herald has a photograph of Phil Twyford, with Little’s name in the caption underneath. (Page 3, today’s print edition)

I guess the sub-editor who put it all together isn’t a member of EPMU then. Are dark forces at wotk against Phil Little, or was this just an unfortunate error?
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December 2, 2016 8:10am
- holysheet
  
  Who cares, you couldn’t pay for this comedy gold.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:15am
  - Tarquin North
    
    I thought it was Trev. Time to go to Specsavers.
    
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    December 2, 2016 8:25am
- cmm
  
  What do they know that we don’t?
  
  Phyl Twyford would be a logical progression though: Goff, Shearer, Cunners, Little, Twyford each less competent than the one they replace.
  
  Twyford is inept. He comes across as a real mummy’s boy that needs the crusts cut off his toast.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:21am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I wonder if he enjoys food cooked by people with Chinese-sounding surnames.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:11am
  - RF
    
    Is Twyford toilet trained… ?
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:12am
BananaLlama

Donald Trump cut a deal with Carrier air conditioning to keep 1000 jobs in America and he hasn’t even been sworn in as President. Absolute madman.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/01/trump-will-visit-carrier-2-days-1000-american-jobs-saved/
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December 2, 2016 8:12am
- LisaGinNZ
  
  ” As we all begin to filter the impact of a historic Donald Trump victory, perhaps it is important to remind ourselves what should be the primary filter for perspective..…the economics.
  
  For the first time in many decades the chief executive of the United States will walk into office concerned about the fiscal stability of the United States. For the first time ever, a titan of American Main Street is going to be in the oval office. Do not downplay the significance of this aspect. Money makes the world go ’round.
  
  Every single global leader and politician is reviewing the U.S. election through their own domestic financial prisms.”
  
  https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/11/30/president-elect-trump-announces-economic-nationalist-dream-team-mnuchin-ross-and-ricketts/
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:22am
  - stephieboy
    
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    LisaGinNZ.
    
    “..a titan of American Main Street..” ???
    
    What with already a Fraud settlement ( Trump University ) under his belt and a legacy of bankruptcies and failed business ventures ?
    
    Do you anticipate he will finally declare his tax returns to ” ” American main street ” ?
    
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    December 2, 2016 8:46am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Should disappear any time now. 🙂
      
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      December 2, 2016 11:25am
- Scott
  
  I think what Donald Trump did was awesome! All those people who work for Carrier will remember this for the rest of their lives. They will remember the day when the President-elect of the United States made some calls and did a deal and looked after them personally.
  
  I think it was a great thing for him to do, well done him.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:47am
  - fernglas
    
    Half of the people who work for Carrier will remember him for saving their jobs. The other half, whose jobs are leaving the States, will remember him for failing to live up to his campaign promise to keep all their jobs in the US.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:19am
    - Inandout
      
      Your glass half empty, Fernie?
      
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      December 2, 2016 9:37am
  - sam green
    
    Let’s hope he does the same for Nike and Apple etc etc. Bring those jobs home! (To America).
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:13am
- howitis
  
  Carrier Air, Ford MotorCo stays in Kentucky, and the repatriation of the billions held offshore by the multinationals for a one off tax of 10%.
  Presidents Trumps wins are already greater than 8 years of Barry Hussein’s.
  Unless Barry closes Gitmo next week, or the week after. Nah, just joshing.
  
  Factory Workers Lives Matter.
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:13am
  - Scott
    
    Here is one of Donald Trump’s severest critics, one of the most liberal guys ever, who gives credit where credit is due to Trump. And he asks the question, why don’t the Democrats do this? In fact why did President Obama not do this, he is the actual president after all?
    
    The Democrats are supposed to be the party of the working man. It took a New York billionaire to show them how to actually do something for the working man –
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXnsF2-pav8
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:26am
    - howitis
      
      Well Scott, US Democrats and NZ Labour don’t represent their founding flock in 2016.
      
      They typically represent a vocal urban over-educated elite who have ‘skills’ so useless they end up in a) Unions b) universities & Techs c) NGOs and the like.
      eg David/Phil/Andrew/Martyn/Martin Little; Phil Twatford; Jacinta, Moron..ey > you get the drift.
      
      They are not even recruiting from the lawyers with an over-active social conscience like Labour 1980s – Lange, Palmer, Caygill, Prebble et al. Per my comment above, these lawyers could earn way more in the private sector 30 years ago than as an MP.
      
      The flotsam and jetsam in NZ parliament this decade (esp Gr/abour) earn way more in parliament than they could in the the frightening real world. They represent their own world and that limited view. Their take on diversity tends to be selective academic not pragmatic.
      Similar to Labour in Australia and UK.
      
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      December 2, 2016 9:50am
  - mikenmild
    
    The Carrier jobs were reportedly saved by subsidies promised by the Indiana state government. This is quite a common move. One study estimated that state governments have spent $64 billion on such deals in the last 30 years, at an average of $400,000 per job ‘saved’.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:56am
    - fernglas
      
      In this case it was a mixture of subsidies, which were reportedly about $700k per year and thus peanuts, and threats that they would lose lucrative defence contracts.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:26am
    - Gabby
      
      Wonder how long before ‘Trump’ does a deal with ‘Trump’ to keep American jobs in America.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:36am
    - Scott
      
      “This is quite a common move”.
      
      Well why didn’t Obama do it then? Why didn’t Barry rouse himself and pick up the phone and do a deal? Because he can’t be bothered.
      
      But rich billionaire Donald Trump could be bothered. He did something for the actual workers. It’s called “caring”.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:45am
      - mikenmild
        
        Because they are lousy deals. If the government has to subsidies industries to stay in the US then everyone loses.
        
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        December 2, 2016 11:02am
    - Lance
      
      Seems a lot of Kb’ers whom normally howl at subsidies as left wing corporate welfare are now thinking it’s a good idea because Trump is doing it.
      
      It’s a brave new world
      
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      December 2, 2016 12:17pm
waikatogirl

Most common boys names listed:

Oliver
Mohammed
Noah
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December 2, 2016 8:13am
- sam green
  
  In your address book?
  
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  December 2, 2016 11:55am
mikenmild

Get well soon, Buzz Aldrin:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/87113101/ailing-buzz-aldrin-second-man-on-moon-medically-evacuated-from-south-pole
Let’s hope he’s backing on his feet and punching moon landing hoaxers again soon.
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December 2, 2016 8:13am
G152

There is no such thing as an accidental wrongly inserted caption…
According to the MSM they -always- check their facts before going to print…..
ROTFL
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December 2, 2016 8:14am
- cmm
  
  In stuff’s article on Castro they showed mourners lining up below a portrait of Che Guevara. In the caption they said it was a portrait of Castro.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:25am
  - kowtow
    
    You’d think they’d know. After all every cool Marxist youff grew up with the murdering bastards’ poster on his wall, Dad would still have the T shirt……just goes to show how thick our “revolutionaries” are.
    
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    December 2, 2016 8:30am
  - Rich Prick
    
    To be fair, all murdering Marxist dictators begin to look the same as you get older.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:01am
DifferentPerspective

Virtue signalling is going to get expensive for Kelloggs

This is a fight Kelloggs can’t win – their advertising revenue is nothing to Breitbart but Breitbart’s 45 million readers can really hurt Kelloggs worldwide if they do a reverse boycott.

More proof that the worm has finally turned against the social justice bullies’ philosophy of whining to big companies to get them to pull advertising revenue from websites that express opinions that don’t agree with the ‘whiny loser’ rhetoric of the left.

Kelloggs share price is already dipping on the NYSE over the past 5 days.
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December 2, 2016 8:16am
- cmm
  
  The gotnews.com guy, Charles C Johnson, has a stock trading policy of shorting stocks on companies that do virtue signaling and other PC behaviour. Apparently he’s making a killing on the stock markets.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:28am
- Nukuleka
  
  I have emailed the NZ branch of Kellogg’s to express my disgust with the action of the US parent company. They’ll no doubt label me as some sort of alt right nutjob but it’s important to show the sort of ‘solidarity’ that is the usual parlance of the screaming left. I encourage others to do the same to indicate that Kiwis read Breitbart as well.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:44am
  - itstricky
    
    So there’s a large difference between ‘SJW whining’ and ‘showing solidarity’, then?
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:01am
    - tom hunter
      
      {shrugs shoulders} If you can’t beat them – join them!
      
      Basically what you’re saying is that you want one set of rules for your side – and a different set for your opponents. The Right lost the argument with you that playing this game could be bad for everybody: the Left didn’t listen, certain about how it would win you electoral power. Okay – so now “we’re” playing your game, with your rules. You don’t like that? Diddums.
      
      I hope Kellogg’s get the shit kicked out of them. We’ll see how SJW’ly they want to be with substantial losses in customers, profits and their stock price.
      
      It all rather has echoes of the latest US election, where various people have pointed out that if the Left insisted on playing the identity politics game – despite being told that this perhaps not a good idea for the society at large – then sooner or later the one “out” group that could be safely demonised, white people, would start to play the identity politics game also.
      
      Shock, horror! Oh – and whining.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:02am
      - Fletch
        
        Yeh, I think next year is going to be interesting. The leftie- SJW tactics aren’t working any more. I think people have gotten sick of it and are standing up to it. Lefties are more likely to be ridiculed on Twitter and big companies will be afraid of losing patronage from RIGHT leaning people.
        
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        December 2, 2016 11:08am
      - itstricky
        
        I did not question the actions, tom. I questioned the labeling.
        
        Is there a difference between ‘whining’ and ‘showing solidary’?
        
        Equally, I wonder what the difference is between SJW calls to boycott stuff and your calls to boycott Kellogg’s, Herald etc
        
        PS You’re a bit heavy with the ‘us’ and ‘them’ rhetoric today. BB one of your favorites?
        
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        December 2, 2016 2:19pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Yes – Kelloggs boycott is a classic example of bringing a knife to a gun-fight.
      
      And your point illustrates how little SJ bullies hate it when their own ugly Alinsky tactics get used back at them! It’s alright when a revolting SJB like Rosie O’Donnell says abusive things about a 10 year old kid because she doesn’t like his dad – but oh no! Don’t you dare question if it is a good thing or not to import hordes of islamic barbarians – that’s hurty feelings territory!
      
      It’s all about using the weapons of the left right back at them and listening to the high pitched whining!
      
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      December 2, 2016 2:11pm
      - itstricky
        
        Don’t forget to inform ‘your team’ of the current tactics so you don’t accidentally get caught in the crossfire and labelled as “an ‘SJW who only knows how to whine about banning stuff”
        
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        December 2, 2016 2:24pm
  - Gabby
    
    I bought some cornflakes.
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:37am
    - sam green
      
      Sanitarium or Kellogs?
      
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      December 2, 2016 11:04am
    - rangitoto
      
      Don’t choke on them.
      
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      December 2, 2016 11:13am
    - itstricky
      
      https://www.google.co.nz/search?site=&source=hp&ei=U81AWMzWNMyA8wXD9q2oCw&q=origin+of+kellogg%27s+corn+flakes&oq=origin+of+kellogsnc
      
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      December 2, 2016 2:32pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Did you stop? or just not have snowflakes – sorry cornflakes
        
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        December 2, 2016 5:40pm
      - itstricky
        
        I’m not the one calling for a banning of Kellog’s, buddy.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:03pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Do people still eat that shit?
  
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  December 2, 2016 11:49am
EAD

Nigel Farage yesterday pointed to the crisis in media, particularly the Swedish media, which he called the “worst.” and that “The MSM is an industry in very deep crisis,” Farage said. “It’s so detached from the way ordinary people are increasingly thinking that it has left a huge gaping hole in the market which the Internet is filling—Breitbart being a phenomenal example of that.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/01/exclusive-nigel-farage-copenhagen-year-political-revolution-proved-total-disaster-media-broadcast-industry/

He’s correct in that our media is now more controlled than the Soviet era, which is saying something!

It pushes The Agenda of diversity and “welcoming the stranger”, while covering up inconvenient news on migrant crime. It pushes keeping our borders open to the Third World and abolishing what remains of our sovereignty by remaining in the EU against the wishes of most people.

So the question begs itself – who is behind the media?

Take Sweden. As Farage points out, their media is perhaps the most biased and censored of all. Of the seven largest newspapers we find six are either owned by or edited by Jews as well as most published magazines, a host of regional papers and TV channels – not bad for such a small group.

The Jewish Bonnier family are the most influential media group in Sweden and in Finland. They own four of the seven largest daily newspapers: Dagens Nyheter (the Daily News), Expressen (the Express), Sydsvenska Dagbladet (the Southern Swedish Daily News) and Dagens Industri (the Industry of Today).

The Bonnier family also own the TV Station LNK and have virtual control of the largest private TV channels in Sweden TV4 through a direct stake of 21,6% and through their ownership of the Finnish based Alma media company in which they hold 23,4%. TV4 is headed by Jan Scherman who is Jewish.

Beside the Bonnier family in Sweden there is the Jew Peter Hjörne (real name Kaplan), owner and chief editor of Göteborgs-Posten (the Gothenburg Post; GP), the fourth largest newspaper in Sweden with a circulation of 253,700, reaching 600,000 readers daily. GP is furthermore the only newspaper in Sweden’s second largest city, Gothenburg.

Robert Aschberg (Jewish) owns the largest production company in Sweden called Strix Television and produces programs for every major channel, especially TV3.

The largest newspaper in Sweden is Aftonbladet (the Evening Post), jointly owned by the Swedish Labour Union and the Norwegian Schibstedt company. The chief editor, however, is the Jewess Helle Klein, great granddaughter of the former grand rabbi of Stockholm, Rabbi Gottlieb.

In other words, of the seven largest news papers in Sweden, six are either owned by or edited by Jews even though there are fewer than 20,000 Jews in Sweden making up roughly 0.2% of the population.

So on and so forth this concentration of ownership is prevalent across the West telling us to Welcome the Stranger all the while Israel takes none – chutzpah or what!
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December 2, 2016 8:40am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD,
  
  “He’s correct in that our media is now more controlled than the Soviet era, which is saying something!”
  
  The evidence that this is the case ? The Daily Mail , Breitbart , The Washington Times , Fox , WND etc, etc is evidence of this ?
  
  The Bonnier family try to suppress Swedish social and other kinds of alternative media that are readily available ?
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:53am
- dave_c_
  
  “Who is behind the media”?
  Those who are behind, and control the existing governments (in the US case, the establishment – comprising either/or Democcrats or Republicans) – those wanting to break down autonomous nations, paving the way for the NWO mandates of :
  – One world government
  – One world religion
  – One world army
  – One world ……….
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:57am
  - stephieboy
    
    dave c, , again the evidence that this is the case other than the usual largely Jewish based international conspiracies for the same ?
    
    http://listverse.com/2014/02/09/10-absurdly-crazy-jewish-conspiracy-theories/
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:06am
- PhilBest
  
  Breitbart was started by a Jew and heavily staffed with Jews. And it is the main challenge to the orthodoxy you are describing.
  
  The simple fact is that smart people can be found at the top of the game all over the place and on all sides of the political and business spectrum, and a lot of Jews are smart people.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:58am
- tom hunter
  
  “It’s de Joos”
  
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  December 2, 2016 10:07am
  - mikenmild
    
    I’m still waiting for EAD to tell us what we should do about the Jews…
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:24am
  - EAD
    
    No Tom,
    
    it’s not de Joos, just Jews.
    
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    December 2, 2016 11:15am
    - mikenmild
      
      But what should we do about them?
      
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      December 2, 2016 11:20am
      - thedavincimode
        
        I’ve already told you milky. He wants them at 140 C for 4 hours.
        
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        December 2, 2016 11:50am
      - EAD
        
        Yes davincimode,
        
        and turn 6 hundred bazillion of them into lamp$hade$ & bar$ of $oap!
        
        http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4061/9266/original.jpg
        
        NEVER FORGET!!
        
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        December 2, 2016 11:58am
      - thedavincimode
        
        Or you could hunt them EAD. Relative by any chance?
        
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        December 2, 2016 1:58pm
unaha-closp

How to build the wall and get Mexico to pay for it.

Set up an official guest worker program and remit 10% of the workers tax take to Mexico.
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December 2, 2016 8:46am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  unaha-closp,, now how much will that tax take add up to given that Trump has estimated his wall will cost US $10-12 billion ?
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:55am
  - unaha-closp
    
    About $8-10billion per year, guesstimate.
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:27am
    - stephieboy
      
      A guesstimate based on what calculations ?
      
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      December 2, 2016 2:35pm
Stars And Stripes

Being the caring sensitive new age guy that I am I thought I better accompany Mrs Stripes to her breastscreen appointment the other day.
However when she told me it was the appointment was with Breastscreen Aotearoa I protested and said we should only go to the Breastscreen New Zealand unit but she informed me there was not one.
Probably was removed as it was deemed racist I decided.
So in we went and we were promptly welcomed by an ugly women with a large wart like thing on her nose with a long hair growing out of it.
Who would put someone like that in a customer service role?.
Well she then stood up and I realised why as what better advertisement for breast screen than a lady with large breasts in a tight teeshirt.
I only noticed of course because I was trying to read the slogan on the shirt.☺
Later after a short wait Mrs Stripes got to have her things sandwich pressed but she didn’t get much support from me unfortunately as all I could think about was the pain of being hit in the nuts at cricket in my school days and how the grimace on her face was strikingly similar.
On our way out the next flat chested appointment walked in and I thought why bother give that chick a scan as I reckon my boobs are bigger than hers.
Sexism in action I decided.
Something for Susan Devoy to look at.
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December 2, 2016 8:54am
- stephieboy
  
  Stars And Stripes , do check to see when you had your last Mammogram ?
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:59am
  - starboard
    
    Nice steffy..coming from the resident pervert who frequents St Lukes Mall to observe young muslim girls breasts. Pervert.
    
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    December 2, 2016 11:14am
- SGA
  
  Breast cancer is usually very treatable if caught early – so it’s great that your wife got her screening done (in spite of all your complaints and distractions).
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:03am
- holysheet
  
  I only noticed of course because I was trying to read the slogan on the shirt.
  
  Oh you por dear, fancy seeing something like that.
  
  What was the slogan????????
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:11am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    The slogan was Breastscreen Aotearoa but very hard to read as the lettering had nearly stretched underneath her armpits.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:36am
- RF
  
  Did you take a selfie with wart lady ? I would pay good money to see it.
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:17am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Yes I did RF but the paper bag kind of obscures it!.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:40am
    - RF
      
      OK… that’s disappointing. Better luck next time.
      
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      December 2, 2016 2:02pm
  - GoVege
    
    I’m sure those ladies at Breast Screen Aotearoa would pay good money to have their patients leave their rude jerks of husbands at home.
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:03am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Diddums GV.
      
      That was great comedy S & S – thanks for the laugh. 😆
      
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      December 2, 2016 11:42am
- jonar
  
  After that post I’m just surprised you’re married.
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:49am
- dave_c_
  
  This is a bit like the ‘Radio NZ national’ pandering to the minorities.
  The latest – each reporter, at the end of their spiel, have to say :
  cor Fred Blogs tennay
  What bollocks !
  
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  December 2, 2016 10:04am
- Gabby
  
  The one between your shoulders is.
  
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  December 2, 2016 10:40am
- sam green
  
  Lets hope your wife’s well.
  
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  December 2, 2016 11:06am
  - sam green
    
    I see there’s a downticker who doesn’t wish your wife well – sorry Stars and Stripes – I did not intend to engender such.
    
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    December 2, 2016 11:21am
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      All good, Stars and Stripes is well used to hate mail.
      
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      December 2, 2016 11:32am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  sandwich pressed…. if only!
  
  I think I have described the process here before… in excrutiatiating detail..
  
  The pinching and stretching of each bit of mammary gland lurking under your armpits or dangling beneath your tummy button is flattened between 2 parallel plates…
  and then the screws go on…..
  more like an old fashioned book press, I imagine….
  
  and just when you want to scream in pain, the nice lady says… hold your breath and don’t breathe for 20 secs….
  
  (still, not as bad as a visit to the dentist)
  
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  December 2, 2016 3:21pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Yes, no acrid burning smell or have I missed something?
    
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    December 2, 2016 6:17pm
DifferentPerspective

Headline: ECE advocate pot calls kettle black

Leading virtue-signalling online publication “The Spin-Off” has a hilariously lacking-in-self-awareness piece from sanctimonious Emily Writes (editor of “Spinoff Parents” – ie editor of nothing much).

She tries to reason with those people that express opinions different to hers by an insult-laden brainfart tirade that variously calls people expressing an opinion she doesn’t like as “assholes”, “fucking muppet”, “whiners”, “ranters”, “dickheads”.

I think she makes the most complelling case as an ECE advocate (and presumably a practicing professional in the field) as to why you SHOULDN’T put your kids into what is clearly going to be a socially engineered and (at least verbally) abusive ECE setting.

The final nail in the coffin in her arguement is when she cites the famous union press release ‘cutter and paster’ Kirsty Johnson as a “super genius” (seriously – I’m not making this up – I promise she did say that about this idiot).

Social Justice Warriors – stranger than fiction!
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December 2, 2016 8:55am
- Keeping Stock
  
  It’s revealing that the Spin-Off has “turned off comments”. We can’t have their “authors” being contradicted now, can we.
  
  That alone makes you realise why Kiwiblog has prospered when other blogs have challenged him, then fallen away. DPF is the most tolerant of blog-hosts, allowing a wide variety of comments from right across the political spectrum. Contrast that with the leading left-wing blogs; the Standard and Daily Blog are both heavily moderated, and the Spin-Off doesn’t even accept comments.
  
  Well done DPF, and even though some of our regulars here frustrate the crap out of me, good on you for allowing Kiwiblog to be a place where pretty much everyone has a voice.
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:29am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Yes indeed – well done DPF!
    
    I don’t always agree – but without doubt the quality of debate here is stronger than anywhere else.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:46am
    - jonar
      
      This is quite ironic given this comment and it’s 15 upticks above.
      
      Remember good KB’s, 30 downticks and stupidboy is gone
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:50am
  - PhilBest
    
    Generally, it is left-wing blogs AND “mainstream media” comments threads that are heavily censored, while the “right” stick to freedom of speech on principle.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:49am
    - GoVege
      
      Hahaha of course!
      That’s why sheet and mates are trying to shut down stephieboy.
      Because they believe in “freedom of speech on principle.”
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:07am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        /facepalm
        
        No one’s trying to shut stephie down – trolls like stephie provide a valuable service!
        
        They prove over and over and over again why the Left is shrivelling up in to obscurity!
        
        Why would anyone want to silence such a valuable voice?
        
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        December 2, 2016 10:45am
      - PhilBest
        
        Stephieboy’s comments actually appear, don’t they? And stay there in perpetuity with all the downticks for all to see?
        
        Not like my experiences with some lefty and Green blogs I could name. Nothing justified; they just obviously don’t want their readers to be exposed to dangerous facts and logic.
        
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        December 2, 2016 12:31pm
      - PhilBest
        
        I should have added, the “mainstream” media comments thread “moderators” are often the worst of the lot – even Frogblog allows more actual debate than, say, the Herald does.
        
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        December 2, 2016 12:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @PhilBest
        
        Frogblog turned off comments some months ago.
        
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        December 2, 2016 3:14pm
    - Gabby
      
      Fat Cambo’s no leftie.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:42am
      - PhilBest
        
        Who is Fat Cambo and what is your point?
        
        I am aware of a famous blogger named Cameron who is corpulent, and while he has introduced moderation with some strict rules more recently, the rules are reasonable, impartially administered, and no bar to wide-ranging argument. I am certainly not aware of any capricious, at-whim deletions and blockings of the kind that certain Left blogs are notorious for.
        
        EDIT: I have once or twice come up against impartially administered moderation rules on Cameron’s blog through my own ignorance of the rules, even though my comments were completely supportive of Cameron’s own opinions.
        
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        December 2, 2016 12:42pm
      - Morrissey
        
        One PhilBest is delusional. In a mad paean to the notorious filth pit administered by his idol Cameron Slater, he makes two particularly foolish assertions:
        
        1.) the rules are reasonable, impartially administered, and no bar to wide-ranging argument.
        
        No they’re not. There is virtually no intelligent discussion there. Anyone who manages to read more than a few threads there soon realizes that Whaleoil’s blog is an echo-chamber of the most depressing vacuousness and/or horrifying viciousness.
        
        2.) I am certainly not aware of any capricious, at-whim deletions and blockings
        
        I was banned twice from that pigsty: the first time for pointing out that the United States had destroyed democracy in Iran in 1953 and Guatemala in 1954. I was banned for a second time, this time permanently, simply for suggesting one fanatical anti-tax poster—possibly Slater himself or one of his small group of sycophants like Jordan Williams or Carrick Graham—move to Somalia. Slater wields the axe if you irritate him; the best way to irritate him is to simply, and politely, tell the truth. He can’t handle that, as his continual spleen-venting against Nicky Hager shows all too plainly.
        
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        December 2, 2016 3:45pm
  - nasska
    
    To be fair, Keeping Stock’s own blog, although no longer operational, was a citadel of free expression. Just how our correspondent managed to tolerate Robert the mad green of Southland has me beat.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:58am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      My patience was certainly tested Nasska, and eventually it ran out. Oddly, the chap in question took his banning badly, as he did when DPF banned one “geenfly’, and immediately a commenter by the name of “village idiot” appeared on the scene here.
      
      DPF is certainly far more accepting of all sorts of viewpoints that I had become towards the end of my blogging career, which is one of the reasons I took the opportunity to get my life back after a certain book was published. Visitors to my blog did not get to see the sheer malice and nastiness of some of the comments that were being left.
      
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      December 2, 2016 10:20am
      - Nermal
        
        Never did see your blog, but I enjoy reading your posts here. Don’t always agree, but like the way you stick to the facts rather than the personalities.
        
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        December 2, 2016 12:00pm
      - axeman
        
        booby from Riverton. That’s you Gobby huh?
        
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        December 3, 2016 12:14am
  - mikenmild
    
    I wouldn’t call the Spinoff a blog site – it’s more of an online magazine.
    I doubt that comments would add anything much to it.
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:02am
Happychappy

Labour won’t learn from previous happening in Nelson and paid the price when Nick Smith was elected as the province’s MP.Stan Whitehead former Labour MP and Speaker of Parliament held a very safe seat and large majority in his day, since then they have failed Nelson with infighting and back stabbing that has seen former Labour Members stand against their chosen candidate in the late 1970’s.Nelson voters don’t forget and this latest saga with the Greens will hurt them and will see them struggle in the region for several more years.
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December 2, 2016 9:10am
Jack5

Drinnan is interesting in the Hooerald today on taxpayer funding of TV.

Looks like pressure will be coming for bigger handouts.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/best-of-business-analysis/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501241&objectid=11758652
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December 2, 2016 9:17am
Jack5

More rumbling within National in its safe Clutha-Southland electorate.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759041
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December 2, 2016 9:32am
Stars And Stripes

Woman who stabbed Wellington woman Heidi Pryor to death found not guilty by reason of insanity
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/87086775/woman-who-stabbed-wellington-woman-heidi-pryor-to-death-found-not-guilty-by-reason-of-insanity

Another success story for community care of the deranged.
The pool of blood will be a tsunami soon.
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December 2, 2016 10:09am
Morrissey

Great Moments in Broadcasting. NOT.
No. 1: Pippa Wetzell grovels and simpers before a slimeball….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbTCAbWTN2E

Great Moments in Broadcasting. NOT is an occasional series highlighting some of the worst moments in our pretty shameful history of broadcasting mediocrity and downright failure.
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December 2, 2016 10:17am
- Pateke
  
  Must be something wrong with me then, luvvie. I
  Learned a lot from the interview and agreed with Slater’s view point about name and shame the perpetrators and protect the victims
  
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  December 2, 2016 11:15am
  - Morrissey
    
    Slater wasn’t so happy when he and others involved in the character assassination campaign being run out of the Prime Minister’s office were named and shamed. In fact, he was about as happy as he was after Jesse Ryder sorted him out a few years ago.
    
    http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/23/230fc1f6525c9e8819351f57a661484424933aee4f453d0440432c0c38cfdcee.jpg
    
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    December 2, 2016 12:01pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Why don’t you challenge Slater to a boxing match Morrisey? Or are you all talk?
      
      Personally, I had plenty of respect for Slater for willingly climbing in the ring with a much younger man, who had a certain level of athleticisim and eye-hand co-ordination. He was always on a hiding to nothing, but at least he had the stones to put his money where his mouth was, rather than just sitting on the sidelines making smart-arse comments as you do.
      
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      December 2, 2016 1:39pm
      - Morrissey
        
        He was outmatched by Nicky Hager too, both morally and intellectually.
        
        Funnily enough, Slater has several times stated how he’d like to punch Nicky.
        
        Let’s see: maybe Mr Farrar might like to put up a purse for a challenge.
        
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        December 2, 2016 3:30pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Morally outmatched by Hager?
        
        How the hell do you reckon that works Morris?
        
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        December 2, 2016 4:09pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Morally outmatched by Hager? How the hell do you reckon that works Morris?
        
        It works like this: in 2014 Hager was given access to hacked emails which exposed to the world the sleazy campaign of relentless character assassination being organized in the Prime Minister’s office. The key figure in that campaign was Cameron Slater.
        
        As well as the voluminous evidence of Slater and his cronies conspiring to destroy people—including people in the National Party—there was an enormous amount of material about Slater’s private life. Nicky Hager scrupulously avoided bringing any of that in to the public sphere—a stark contrast with the way Slater himself handles private and confidential material.
        
        As well as the clear gulf in morality between the two of them that was underlined in the Dirty Politics scandal, there is of course Hager’s work, for decades, advocating liberal, progressive, humane and democratic causes. Slater’s record? Not so impressive.
        
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        December 2, 2016 7:56pm
Stars And Stripes

Kiwi women are positive about porn – NZ study
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/87114331/kiwi-women-are-positive-about-porn–nz-study

The chick from Otago University who did this study obviously has come up with the wrong conclusion as this flies in the face of the feminist\lesbian narrative that porn is degrading and contributes to rape culture.
Expect her to be hounded off campus shortly.
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December 2, 2016 10:39am
- SPC
  
  The Paglia bi-sexual wing of feminism appreciates porn, it is the way they tease lesbians, intellectually and physically – wanna sleep with a girl who can also like getting naked for the boys (go on be unPC/ naughty).
  
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  December 2, 2016 5:50pm
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/87095711/checks-of-wellingtons-disaster-resilience-raise-worrying-questions

Stuff asks if Wellington is resilient.

I would pick “no”.

Resilience comes mainly from the people. City people, particularly those with a lifetime of troughing, just don’t do as well when disaster strikes.
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December 2, 2016 10:55am
pseudonymous

Well gobby, for a “Flake” you are quite “corny”!
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December 2, 2016 11:01am
- Gabby
  
  For a ‘seed’ you’re quite spermy.
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:56pm
Fletch

Tucker Carlson’s latest show. This guy is great. The first interview is with a Jill Stein’s campaign manager, whom Tucker questions about the pointless recounts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9cAMo9hT4
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December 2, 2016 11:13am
- Manolo
  
  I agree 100%, Fletch. Carlson is a very incisive interviewer who appears well prepared and pulls no punches at calling bullshit responses.
  
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  December 2, 2016 12:05pm
Ross12

I see Kellogs have jumped on the “fake news” bandwagon and stopped their ads appearing on Breitbart.
Now they are finding out, to their detriment, the power of social media. It will be interesting to see where this goes. Their share price has dropped already.
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December 2, 2016 11:22am
Fletch

Tucker Carlson interviewing a Muslim professor who tries to make the claim that just as many terrorist attacks are carried out by right-wingers….lol. I’m glad there’s someone who doesn’t buy into this liberal bullshit now and let them get away with saying this kind of stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7HekRYdJBo
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December 2, 2016 11:29am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, in a historical context what the professor says would be true .
  
  Has Carslon got any ideas about how to halt the terrorist attacks other than say nuking or carpet bombing the Middle East or imposing a world ban on the religion ?
  
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  December 2, 2016 1:49pm
  - Fletch
    
    Well, he did question the woman as to why seemingly no one from within the religion itself seems to want to do anything about reform. He mentions that as an Episcopalian himself, if members of his faith started killing people in the name of the Bishop of Canterbury there’d be a huge uproar and a question as to why and what could be done about it. You don’t see any of this kind of questioning from members of the Islamic faith.
    
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    December 2, 2016 2:51pm
Stars And Stripes

Float featuring in Christchurch Santa Parade called culturally insensitive
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/319439/chch-santa-parade-float-called-'culturally-insensitive‘
“Christchurch residents Michelle and Derek Flores have asked the float be removed from the parade, saying it’s culturally insensitive.
In an email to the organisers, she said the float which featured “white NZ-European children and adults dressed as First Nations, Native Americans” was highly inappropriate and culturally insensitive”.

Oh get a life FFS.
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December 2, 2016 11:47am
- Manolo
  
  Derek Flores is a Canadian improvisational import with over 17 years of…
  Enough said.
  
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  December 2, 2016 11:54am
- starboard
  
  How embarrassing being Michelle and Derek Flores.
  Their name must be spread around the country, they must be ridiculed and laughed at.
  
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  December 2, 2016 12:23pm
  - RF
    
    Dear god. They would have to be gweens !!!
    
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    December 2, 2016 1:32pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From this article:
  
  Chairwoman of the Santa Parade’s trust, Anne Jamieson, said the float would be included because it was a tradition that children enjoyed.
  
  “We can’t keep pulling floats because people don’t like it, otherwise we are not going to have a parade,” she said.
  
  “Little kids are so looking forward to being on it. We can’t take 10 or 20 kids and say ‘Sorry, you can’t do it this year.’
  
  “That float is going out.
  
  “If they don’t like it, don’t go to it.”
  
  Coming to a cinema near you soon: How the Grinch Stole (the Christchurch) Christmas (Parade).
  
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  December 2, 2016 1:46pm
Manolo

Democratic Party life after the crooked Clintons and weak Obama:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/01/politics/kfile-keith-ellison-nation-of-islam/index.html
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December 2, 2016 11:57am
Manolo

Caning the Messiah:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/12/01/greg-gutfeld-obama-slams-fox-news-and-rings-division-bell-for-last-time.html

In a recent interview in that reprehensible wad of trash called Rolling Stone, President Obama pinpointed why the Democrats lost the election. He blamed it on Fox News….
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December 2, 2016 12:31pm
dime

lol stephie downticked into oblivion.
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December 2, 2016 1:16pm
- Biscuit
  
  Aw Dime, be nice…
  
  I might disagree with a lot of what Stephieboy has to say but this remains a democracy and he is free (within certain legal bounds) to say it.
  
  Me, I only downtick the one-topic folk – who I just find boring…
  
  Life is too short!
  
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  December 2, 2016 1:36pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Good say dime.
    
    Me, I only downtick stephie because I have auto downtick on stephie 🙂
    
    Occasionally, I have to over ride when stephie says something sane – but even a stopped clock is right twice a day. 🙂
    
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    December 2, 2016 5:52pm
graham

Read an article in the Herald just now. So turns out there’s a Facebook post showing off two cute new puppies that have been recruited for police dogs.

But apparently it’s attracted more attention because of the cute police officers holding the puppies. The Facebook post has attracted hundreds of likes after it was posted on the Sputhern District’s Facebook page, with comments such as “adorable, and the puppies are cute too”, and “reoooww… hello officer, U can arrest me [sic]”. One person asked if the officers were single; another said “I’ll take all four thanks”. And to cap it off, there was a suggestion that the officers should make a dog handler calendar.

Not suprisingly this has attracted waves of criticism and howls of outrage about the police officers being objectified, treated as pieces of meat, appreciated only for their looks and not their abilities, cries of sexism, rape culture, and universal condemnation of all the commenters being sexist. Even the article’s author has had to apologise for the headline “Hot cops with puppies: Southern District cops attract likes after posing with puppies”.

Except … it hasn’t. None of that last paragraph is true.

Maybe … just maybe … because the two “cute” police officers are men.

So that must make it okay, I guess.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11758987
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December 2, 2016 1:31pm
SPC

The swamp is drained to anoint the rich as government.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11758772
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December 2, 2016 2:35pm
Nostradamus

Toowoomba accused by activists of being Australia’s most racist city after chemist shop display

Golliwog dolls have been spotted for sale under a “white Christmas” display sign.

Oh no – the end of the world is coming!

Customer George Helon said he felt “shock and awe” when he saw the display at Terry White Chemists in Toowoomba, in south-east Queensland.
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Aboriginal activist, author and filmmaker Dr Stephen Hagan, said the display was offensive and demanded it be removed. Mr Helon wrote on Facebook the display was a real “faux pas” and “should cause quite a stir”.

FFS – do these people wake up in the morning and start thinking of ways to be offended?
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December 2, 2016 3:19pm
Fletch

Donald Trump has confirmed James ‘Mad Dog’ Mattis as Secretary of Defense.

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/804495604223049728
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December 2, 2016 3:35pm
- RF
  
  That’s great news for the civilized world. No so good for ISIS as he has an intense dislike for them.
  
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  December 2, 2016 4:02pm
doggone7

Uberpublicity:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11759318
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December 2, 2016 3:48pm
Fletch

The “bourgeois vandals”. A man seen sipping wine and filming with his phone while another sprays F*CK TRUMP on the side of a building causing between $3,000 and $10,000 of damage. The wine sipper turns out to be Philadelphia Assistant City Solicitor Duncan Lloyd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZwz9JRmUg0

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20161201_City_attorney_identified_in_anti-Trump_vandalism.html
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December 2, 2016 4:15pm
- holysheet
  
  Another leftie chardonnay sipping snowflake who cannot understand why they lost out to Trump.
  Typical of lefties to react in this way.
  
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  December 2, 2016 4:46pm
Manolo

Mexico is unhappy:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-carrier-deal-worthy-banana-republic-mexico-official-224521718–sector.html

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s intervention to stop jobs at a plant in Indiana going to Mexico is typical of what happens in countries that Americans call “banana” republics, a senior Mexican state official said on Thursday.
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December 2, 2016 4:35pm
Stars And Stripes

Terminally ill prisoner Vicki Letele thanks New Zealand
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/87141376/terminally-ill-prisoner-vicki-letele-thanks-new-zealand.

Don’t include me in that lady as you being released is a front to all your victims.
Shame on the Parole Board.
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December 2, 2016 4:51pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From the article that Stars And Stripes linked to:
  
  Following Letele’s release Maori Party co-leader Marama Fox said she was elated.
  
  “It’s disappointing however that her and her family had to be put through so much pain, that protests had to be held and that hundreds of letters had to be written before the Parole Board listened.
  
  “I have no doubt when I compare Vicki’s situation to other cases that she was prejudiced [against] because she’s a Maori,” Fox said
  
  I wonder what “other cases” Marama Fox is using to justify her use of the words “prejudiced” and “Maori”..
  
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  December 2, 2016 5:22pm
Reid

This video shows the reactions of civilians, fleeing their four year imprisonment in East Aleppo, subjugated by various militant factions, funded by NATO states and led by Nusra Front aka Al Qaeda. The first woman, collapses into tears, as she reaches the journalist. These touching moments will be sullied by the corporate media reporting and accounting of events, as they desperately try to resuscitate their expiring Aleppo chronicles.

Translation of what is being said by Suleiman Milad

“They are saying God bless the army and they send their greetings to the army. They also said that there was no food and water where they were in eastern Aleppo between terrorist groups , they also said that terrorists treated them very bad and that the army helped them get out to safe areas. They also showed very big happiness seeing the interviewer who is a very famous war reporter in Syrian for Syrian official TV.”

These images and videos will never see the light of day in the corporate media editing rooms because they expose their almost six year narrative on Syria as one of the most criminal propaganda projects ever deployed against a sovereign nation, its people, its state and its national army.

They certainly do, and the idiot sheeple who swallowed and perhaps even now still swallow the moronic and palpably false but to a village idiot line that Syrians hate Assad and this is why there’s a war, have a great deal to answer for.

Millions displaced, cities destroyed, infrastructure wrecked, hundreds of thousands of deaths. And it’s all the fault of the idiot sheeple who’ve stood by and witnessed since 2011, without saying a fucking thing.

Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Well done sheeple, well done, you’ve just proved his point. Shame about all the deaths, isn’t it. Perhaps next time they try it on, with say, Iran or Russia, you won’t be quite so fucking stupid. Sadly however, I’m not holding my breath.

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/11/29/aleppo-updates-tears-hugs-and-smiles-the-relief-of-escaping-imprisonment-in-east-aleppo/
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December 2, 2016 5:13pm
- SPC
  
  There has never before been an uprising in Syria against an Assad regime requiring it to put down by military force. Except there has, and it was centred on Aleppo decades ago.
  
  Shooting protestors in the streets can go wrong – which is why the Egyptian army did not defend the Mubarak regime.
  
  The events this time reflect wider events, not just domestic ones – the Sunni world’s reaction to the Shia majority in Iraq getting their control of the country, while a Sunni one in Syria remained under a Shia dominated Baath Party.
  
  Thing is, Shia having control of Iraq led to misrule and a harsh lesson – IS taking the northwest, yet Sunni militants in Syria were still were prepared to fight for their singular rule in Syria. Tyrants never learn, and in this fight were two rival tyrants.
  
  The Western problem was being bound to support democratic regime change, the Arab spring and all that, but their local allies were not in this to support the people/democracy but Sunni rule. So unless the West were going to act directly, as only Russia in the end did, then the indirect and passive role would allow local actors to dominate and corrupt the process – which they did thoroughly.
  
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  December 2, 2016 5:37pm
  - Reid
    
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/09/a-short-history-of-the-war-on-syria-2006-2014.html
    
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    December 2, 2016 6:08pm
  - Morrissey
    
    A humorist called “SPC” writes, hilariously:
    
    “The Western problem was being bound to support democratic regime change, the Arab spring and all that…”
    
    http://m.memegen.com/k8j1i6.jpg
    
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    December 2, 2016 7:46pm
    - SPC
      
      No really, it was the Bush doctrine – democratic regime change – that Obama swore to uphold to maintain his predecessors (PNAC) foreign policy legacy.
      
      But without using US troops on the ground, an upgrade on the Rumsfeld policy of a limited size occupation force.
      
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      December 2, 2016 8:15pm
      - Morrissey
        
        The U.S. record is grim, depressing, and irrefutable—deterring, discouraging, or even destroying democracy wherever it rears its awkward head. Just ask anyone from Iran, Guatemala, Vietnam, the Congo, South Africa, Brazil, Honduras, El Salvador, Venezuela, Haiti, Indonesia, Chile, the Occupied Palestinian Territories, Egypt….
        
        We have a choice, SPC: we either accept the empty rhetoric spouted by politicians and their cronies in the media and the diplomatic corps—the “Bush Doctrine” for pity’s sake!—or we look honestly at what they actually do.
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:26pm
      - SPC
        
        The US was only pro democratic regime change once the Cold War was over – and only to remove Baath Party regimes (socialist and secular) or anti-US Islamist ones – Iraq, Syria and Iran. The Arab Spring elsewhere was an unintended event, but sort of predictable. Deposing secular one party state regimes encourages aspiration for Moslem peoples uprising against tyrants. This creates a geo-political religious identity divide between the ME and the West, that nationalists on the right could exploit (including Likud in their foreign policy).
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:51pm
Manolo

Will Turnbull manage to pass the scum to Obama?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/01/obama-administration-stiff-arms-lawmakers-questioning-secret-refugee-deal.html

Nearly 2,500 refugees from terrorism hotspots around the world are bound for the U.S. after being rejected by Australia, but not even top lawmakers can get answers about who they are.

In an unprecedented move, the U.S. State Department has classified details on refugees to be resettled in America via a secret deal made with Australia. The bi-lateral agreement, which Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull called a “one-off,” involves 2,465 people currently being held in Papua New Guinea and Nauru who will now be transferred onto U.S. soil.
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December 2, 2016 5:40pm
Nostradamus

Fremantle Australia Day fireworks: Federal Government threatens to revoke support

The Federal Government is threatening to revoke the City of Fremantle’s power to hold citizenship ceremonies over its decision to move Australia Day celebrations to another day in a bid to create a more “culturally inclusive” celebration.
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City of Fremantle Mayor Brad Pettit has previously argued the Australia Day celebrations had negative connotations for Aboriginal people, marking “the start of much of their dispossession”.

I’ve been following this story. Who the fuck does this mayor think he is? If “the Aboriginal people” (and some of them have publicly expressed their disagreement with what the City of Fremantle is doing) want to celebrate their dispossession on another day, then there’s nothing to stop them doing so.
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December 2, 2016 5:57pm
Longknives

The Herald today had a dig at those ‘Evil Colonial Settlers’ who mercilessly hunted the poor Huia to extinction..

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=11758441

No mention of Maori hunting the hell out of them for 500 years before Europeans arrived..
What a fascinating rewrite of History!
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December 2, 2016 6:01pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Longknives:
  
  I couldn’t think of a better example of an environmental champion than Sonny Tau:
  
  Ngapuhi leader admits smuggling pigeon
  
  It is believed that Mr Tau was questioned while boarding a plane in Invercargill, and was carrying five of the birds under his jacket.
  …
  The rare bird is protected and Mr Tau could face a fine of up to $100,000 if convicted.
  
  I’m sure the birds were “under his jacket” for ~~safekeeping~~ a “bring a plate” dinner event that he was attending.
  
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  December 2, 2016 6:11pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    “The rare bird is ……” ????
    
    I can take you to places where the kereru abounds in hundreds if not thousands.
    The forest around the lakes – Rotoehu, Rotoma and Rotiti – plus in the Uruwera, these birds are hugely plentiful.
    I have seen them in the suburbs of Auckland at certain times of the year, and are regular visitors in my suburb in Tauranga.
    Rare bird they are not.
    They are very good in the pot.
    But don’t get caught – the Eleventh Commandment. 🙂
    
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    December 2, 2016 7:43pm
- mikenmild
  
  Hi Longknives. I’m a long-time fan of your ability to distort the news, so I read this article.
  There is no mention in it of ‘Evil Colonial Settlers’. It doesn’t mention Maori hunting of huia, just that the birds were greatly prized by them.
  I realise that it’s a long time now till the next All Blacks game and you need something to get worked up about, but you really need to try harder.
  
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  December 2, 2016 6:11pm
  - Longknives
    
    Ha Ha you should study some NZ History Mikey…
    
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    December 2, 2016 6:32pm
  - Longknives
    
    And FYI I have deliberately avoided rubbing it in about your Beloved ‘Invincible’ All Blacks after their embarrassment of a Northern Hemisphere Tour-Thrashed by Ireland, Disgraced themselves with sickening Head-High attacks and dirty tactics in the rematch, and then bailed out by a Terrified referee against a piss weak France…
    But I will now- England would put twenty on these Arrogant Morons and their new ‘Designer’ Jerseys..
    
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    December 2, 2016 6:36pm
    - mikenmild
      
      So you are forecasting comfortable wins for the Lions next year?
      The TAB is offering you $4 for a series wni, so you should invest heavily.
      
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      December 2, 2016 6:41pm
mikenmild

starboard in trouble, again:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/87132628/pensioner-nicked-for-impersonating-cop-and-asking-woman-to-remove-her-top
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December 2, 2016 6:13pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Mike, sometimes you say some really good and intelligent words; sometimes you are just a prick and a troll.
  That is all
  
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  December 2, 2016 7:00pm
  - Gabby
    
    Worked a treat at skewlies cob. Local sheilas got no sophistercation.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:37pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Wrong mikey.
  Starboard would never pass as Mr. Makatea – he’s far too white.
  And besides, women are pleased to remove their tops for our old mate starboard. 😉
  
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  December 2, 2016 7:46pm
stigie

You mean Starbored trying to get a date again with ya Mama Milky..?
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December 2, 2016 6:25pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Same goes for you. Come on man, you just jump on the bandwagon when Mike goes stirring
  
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  December 2, 2016 7:03pm
  - sam green
    
    Is Starboard ya boyfriend?
    
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    December 2, 2016 7:23pm
mikenmild

Empire magazine lists its top 25 films for 2016. Guess what’s at No. 1?
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/best-films-2016/
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December 2, 2016 6:28pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Ass Traffic?.
  
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  December 2, 2016 6:37pm
- Nostradamus
  
  The Inside Story on Darren Hughes’ Fateful Night? (It’s bound to be turned into a full-length feature movie (with NZ on Air funding) at some stage.)
  
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  December 2, 2016 6:41pm
  - nasska
    
    What a snow job…..Brian Edwards once again gluing vajazzle to a shit chute.
    
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    December 2, 2016 7:08pm
  - stigie
    
    Any chances of you directing this full-length feature movie Nostra, you could call on your fellow Kiwiblogers for props, fuck what a ball we would have !~
    
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    December 2, 2016 7:11pm
    - nasska
      
      You’re not using my medicine ball……you’ll get it covered in crap! 🙂
      
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      December 2, 2016 7:13pm
      - stigie
        
        Wipes are supplied free of charge Nasska !~
        
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        December 2, 2016 7:33pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stigie:
      
      Any chances of you directing this full-length feature movie Nostra
      
      Now that’s a tempting prospect!
      
      Which Kiwiblogger would you suggest would pull off the Darren Hughes role? In fact, there’s likely to be a lot of pulling in the film, so we might need more than one person with skills in that area!
      
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      December 2, 2016 7:17pm
      - nasska
        
        Anyone know who kowtow’s agent is? 🙂
        
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        December 2, 2016 7:18pm
      - stigie
        
        “Dad”
        
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        December 2, 2016 7:28pm
      - sam green
        
        Stigie – Steve thinks you’re dumb.
        
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        December 2, 2016 7:35pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Sam:
        
        You seem like an obliging chap and I think you’d make a great 18-year-old student.
        
        One witness told 3 News a flustered man, matching a description of the complainant, was near the Mt Victoria tunnel around 5 o’clock on the morning in question.
        
        “He was standing there with one hand over his private parts and the other hand with his thumb out, hitch-hiking,” the witness said.
        
        “I thought, ‘Oh boy, the husband’s come home and it’s a quick exit’.”
        
        You seem like a good fit for the role!
        
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        December 2, 2016 7:44pm
      - nasska
        
        We wouldn’t need a make up artist to create the carpet burns on his knees Nostra. 🙂
        
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        December 2, 2016 7:48pm
      - sam green
        
        One hand wouldn’t cover my privates though.
        
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        December 2, 2016 7:49pm
      - stigie
        
        Hey Sam, i might not be the sharpest knife in the draw, but Nostra is right, that 18 year old student could fit your description, now we need someone to play Darren Hughes. How big would you like him to be..???
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:08pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        Sam hasn’t substantiated his claim that one hand (presumably Sam means his hand and not Darren’s) wouldn’t cover his privates. I’m prepared to take Sam at his word though.
        
        That suggests, then, that whoever plays Darren would need to have a decent-sized schlong.
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:16pm
      - stigie
        
        Sam Sam where are you, we want to know if you’re up for it, you know the casting i mean !~
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:29pm
      - sam green
        
        If it’s anything to do with my bottom I would prefer a lesser being – if you know what I mean.
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:31pm
      - sam green
        
        Anyway – we’re acting aren’t we? Aren’t we!
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:34pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Sam:
        
        Anyway – we’re acting aren’t we? Aren’t we!
        
        We’ll do everything we can to provide a safe working environment for you. But the problem with filming in Hagley Park is that some bystanders might misunderstand the situation and pile in. Would it help if we ask Starboard to look after you?
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:49pm
      - sam green
        
        Errrr …… I feel sick ……
        
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        December 2, 2016 8:55pm
      - stigie
        
        Starbored would be a great choice Nostra but there is a chance there could be others interested that are in the vicinity of course !~
        Im sure Dad would like to feature, he has had recent experience..?
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:12pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I’ve applied for the R64+ classification rating for this movie.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:59pm
- EAD
  
  The Greatest Story Never Told?
  
  Hellstorm?
  
  Batman Returns? http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2016/11/batman-returns-anti-semitic-allegory.html?m=0
  
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  December 2, 2016 7:30pm
  - Reid
    
    Yes EAD. If only Hellstorm was compulsory in schools on equal footing with teachings on The Holocaust. But apparently, dissent ist verboten in this thing the sheeple hallucinate as “their” “democracy.”
    
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    December 2, 2016 8:23pm
- Fletch
  
  Hmm, judging by the other movies on the list, I’m not sure that’s saying much.
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:21pm
RRM

Lads –

So it’s *possible* a work mate brought in a dodgy vietnamese whisky with a whole Cobra and Scorpion, locked forever in mortal conbat, preserved inside the bottle.

And it’s *a given* that I may have imbibed a shot or two.

Will I live? Or die..?

Any answers much appreciated..
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December 2, 2016 6:43pm
- Nostradamus
  
  RRM:
  
  That depends. Were they male, female or transgender? (the cobra and scorpion, that is – not your workmate)
  
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  December 2, 2016 6:44pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Very common in Vietnam RRM.
  Venom is deactivated by the ethanol so you will be fine.
  Drink up.
  
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  December 2, 2016 6:53pm
  - RRM
    
    Good to know. It is one of the two or three worst drinks I have ever smelled let alone taken! Alcohol said it would be fun, but alcohol was wrong, so wrong..
    
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    December 2, 2016 7:02pm
- lofty
  
  I can tell you anecdotally that with imbibing enough, you will be pole vaulting around the room.
  
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  December 2, 2016 7:11pm
Happychappy

So when is the Media going to take Andrew Little to task about when he fronts them he has being saying apart from the dirty politics the Labour team are happy with the way things are progressing.If this is the way Labour think they can escape the political graveyard they are deluded and if he wants to play this stupid game he should a least try and prove it as the NZ voter is not as stupid as he assumes.
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December 2, 2016 7:12pm
- sooty
  
  Never! All off the MSM are part of the Labour party. DIE. MSM. DIE.
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:36pm
Reid

From Soper:

But this Labour Party is very firmly Little’s and he, more than anyone else, is responsible for where it’s sitting at the moment.

Dissent isn’t tolerated, think of how the Trans Pacific Partnership supporters were muzzled, even though it was Labour’s idea in the first place.

Think of how the party was brought into line over the flag debate, even though a change of the ensign has been Labour policy for decades. And think of his intemperate outburst after his recent ill advised entry into local body politics, labelling Labour loyalist and Wellington mayoral hopeful Nick Leggett a right winger, when in reality ridiculous Labour rules ostracised him after the party instead backed the winner Justin Lester…

…Little has recently put in place a new communications team and for his sake they’ve got a year to do the job – teaching him to communicate!

So this tells me Liarbore’s ideologically driven forward pack of fools and losers has generated “The Leggett Affair” all by themselves, for a very stupid reason.

How come I’m not surprised?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11758769
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December 2, 2016 7:14pm
- Gabby
  
  Bit of a stretch calling Lick a loyalist. Loyal to his commission is about all.
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:31pm
Reid

As soon as Hulun returns of course everything changes. Then we’ll see lefties and journalists but I repeat myself squeal with delight as she spreads her cloak* once again over poor widdle Aoteoroa who never did anything to deserve it her.

Won’t be long now.

* Black velvet is my guess, filled with bats and giant centipedes with wings.
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December 2, 2016 8:15pm
SPC

Has there ever been a more pro Zionist government of the USA than the incoming 45th administration?
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December 2, 2016 8:21pm
- Reid
  
  It’s a worry, isn’t it.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:25pm
  - SPC
    
    It will encourage hubris on the West Bank, this will incite the Arab world. Iran will play champion of the Moslems to paper over the Shia-Sunni divide (move on from IS/Syria civil war) – and this will feed the palpable anti-Iran sentiment. Thus the original Iraq, Syria and then Iran PNAC programme …
    
    Wonder how Trump and Putin will talk that one over?
    
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    December 2, 2016 8:33pm
    - Reid
      
      What do you mean by the West Bank?
      
      And re: the Sunni-Shia divide, this is what Syria is at the heart of. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are supplying ISIS and supplying their intel, training and medical. They always have been. This is why Congress for instance authorised a massive arms deal with SA the other month. Somehow, mysteriously, those very same US weapons somehow who’da thunk wind up in ISIS hands.
      
      There’s some excellent analyses of this if you’re interested, let me know if so.
      
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      December 2, 2016 8:44pm
      - SPC
        
        1.Recognising illegal (squatter) settlements on the WB – thus a Jewish state extending to any area within eretz Israel where Jews want to live
        2.Declaring areas of the WB as non negotiable parts of the state of Israel in any peace deal (the not quite annexation declaration, and re-state annexation of East Jerusalem in this context) – to get the world accustomed to the end of the Palestine state on 67 borders as part of any future “peace”.
        3.1 and 2 – a Jewish state where Jews live and de-legitimising Arab village region areas within Israel so that they are seen as Palestinian enclaves (with a modicum of local government as per Arab villages on the West Bank but no place in national government power).
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:09pm
      - Reid
        
        I meant, hubris from whom?
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:11pm
      - SPC
        
        From Likud, they will be more open about what their goals are – while they have a a compliant White House – to normalise the ambition. They also seek to exploit the West’s security concerns to limit support for PA’s response – attempt to secure international solidarity.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:21pm
      - Reid
        
        Quite agree SPC.
        
        In summary:
        
        Likud are extremely evil, aren’t they.
        
        I didn’t think you’d ever think that, but apparently, you do.
        
        Well done.
        
        You’re making progress.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:30pm
      - SPC
        
        Sure it’s them putting their nationalism first.
        
        A bit like denying taxpaying Kiwis access to Oz welfare – but land theft rather than tax fraud.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:34pm
      - Reid
        
        Shame they have to emphasise it with white phosphorus on civilian housing every now and then isn’t it.
        
        But perhaps that’s acceptable, given the mortal threat they face. Why if they used just one of their nukes on a ME city they’d only have 349 left.
        
        They’re defenceless!
        
        Aren’t they.
        
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        December 2, 2016 9:54pm
      - SPC
        
        This is what happens when rival nationalisms clash – and one has yet to reach statehood. The assertion of power provokes a response that can be condemned as terrorist. This is a winning hand, that keeps being played until there is no response, just a plea for international justice. This either comes or if not, dependence on militant action by other parties in support of them. But Israel has nukes … . Thus an understandable paranoia about a third party having the capacity to get nukes and ending this monopoly, or worse supply them to a local activist front.
        
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        December 2, 2016 10:02pm
Manolo

A clever, very clever lady:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/01/kellyanne-conway-would-be-a-feminist-hero-if-she-were-a-democrat/

If you’re a woman still anguishing over “what to tell our daughters” about the 2016 election, I suggest you point to Kellyanne Conway: the first woman to run a successful presidential campaign.

This smart, tough, cool mom of four was the winning campaign manager for the most brutal presidential race in history—and she kept a steely smile on her face the whole time.
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December 2, 2016 8:25pm
- Morrissey
  
  She comes across as anything but smart. You’re either delusional or trying to be funny.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:28pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Piss off Morris Dancer.
    She is a very talented and capable lady – one of the few to keep The Donald in control, and was arguably the architect of his success.
    
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    December 2, 2016 8:55pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Ah Sexist Morrissey, not really a surprise…
    I guess you would rather she was wearing a Burka and not driving a car.
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:48pm
- SPC
  
  Not so good running the Cruz campaign. She only joined the Trump team in August.
  
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  December 2, 2016 8:41pm
Manolo

The delicate Clinton snowflakes find it hard to cope with defeat:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shouting-match-erupts-between-clinton-and-trump-aides/2016/12/01/7ac4398e-b7ea-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?utm_term=.bc59c08072f8

The raw, lingering emotion of the 2016 presidential campaign erupted into a shouting match here Thursday as top strategists of Hillary Clinton’s campaign accused their Republican counterparts of fueling and legitimising racism to elect Donald Trump.

The extraordinary exchange came at a postmortem session sponsored by Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government, where top operatives from both campaigns sat across a conference table from each other.
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December 2, 2016 9:04pm
- itstricky
  
  Bloody snowflakes
  
  This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!
  — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
  
  The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
  — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
  
  Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble…like never before.
  — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
  
  Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.
  — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
  
  We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!
  — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:19pm
- RF
  
  Manolo
  
  It’s so funny hearing Crooked Hillarys team still bitching about losing the election. She is like a vampire that will require many stakes through her heart before she give up.
  
  I have contacts in both the US Law Enforcement and Military and know from conversations / emails that Clinton would have got stuff all votes from them. I presume the Navy and Airforce were the same.
  
  Hillarys team reminds me of Labour……
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:21pm
  - Inandout
    
    An extremely nasty, conniving, self seeking, abusive, husband bashing creature is Hillary. Just like we escaped an electoral disaster last election with Dot Com’s lot, the US has dodged the Clinton bullet. It may take decades to wash away the PC bullshit that the American youth have been exposed to, but they will finally see the light.
    
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    December 2, 2016 9:30pm
Nostradamus

A tale of 2 meat-avoiders.

GoVege

November 15, 2016 5:59pm

I am a deep thinker with an IQ in the stratosphere but you have me bamboozled holy sheet.

Philu:

January 22, 2011 3:46pm

i started doing english at the beginning of my batchelors degree..
…but majored in politics in my masters…
..(and yrslf…?…)
..and funny you shd mention school…’cos writing essays was all i got ‘a’ in…’cos i enjoyed it…eh..?
..writing those essays…
…(and yrslf..?…)
..and when the iq was measured it was north of 140….eh…?
..(and yrslf…?..)

Do all vegans claim to be intellectually superior to everyone else?
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December 2, 2016 9:26pm
- Reid
  
  Do all vegans claim to be intellectually superior to everyone else?
  
  There’s definitely a certain irritating smugness about em.
  
  What should we do, as a society?
  
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  December 2, 2016 9:59pm
  - GoVege
    
    Go vege of course!
    Then you can be smugly superior too!
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:15pm
- GoVege
  
  Hi Nostra!
  No…we’re MORALLY superior to you lot.
  Sadly with veges, our IQs tend to drop over time.
  Usually by being punched in the head …by meat-eaters.
  
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  December 2, 2016 10:19pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Your 10:15 and 10:19 comments are pretty much on point vege,
    
    Though I think playing the whole, you eat meat therefore you are bully card is a bit childish. However there are a few who walk right into that so why not I guess.
    
    You’re not a complete a-hole though which is surprising for someone with your afflictions…. as you were
    
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    December 2, 2016 10:40pm
BeeSting

ISLAMIC Paint Ball anyone

Further info on Australastan the West Islands

MASSIVE J I H A D problem

How do you train for killing and beheading Christians in Syria under the noses of the Authorities

YOU PLAY PAINT BALL

Been going on for quite a while

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/terror-suspects-turn-to-paintball-to-train-for-overseas-missions/news-story/01a97cc05bf9b651de25a4cf1832cc70

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/former-member-blows-lid-on-al-furqan/story-e6frf7kx-1226473756431

“They would do activities like archery and paintball, and they would do what they called clay shooting. They would basically just be practising with their guns.

“There is also a gym where they do martial arts and they teach the little kids as young as five. It’s not just about health. It’s about learning how to fight.”

http://www.smh.com.au/national/my-year-undercover-with-australias-islamic-radicals-20160615-gpjtoi.html

Keep your wits about you people
and report anything
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December 2, 2016 11:10pm
Manolo

When one has to eat humble pie:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-house-speaker-ryan-donald-trump-scott-pelley/
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December 3, 2016 7:16am
Manolo

If Italy votes NO tomorrow, Mr Renzi could dind himself out of of office, and the EU on even shakier grounds.
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