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New species identified in USA.

Potus orangutanus.
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December 24, 2016 8:01am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Go and thaw your turkey, Dennis.
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:10am
  - William of Ockham
    
    We’re having climate science deniers for breakfast. Apparently they taste nutty.
    
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    December 24, 2016 8:47am
    - burt
      
      They taste real, AGW believers taste like the first 7 pages of revelation.
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:02am
    - Griff
      
      Yes Denis as nutty as a nut roll with nuts on top .
      You have seen this latest in the mann vrs nuts libel case I presume ?
      
      ” [The defendants’ statement that] Dr. Mann has engaged in misconduct has been so definitively discredited, a reasonable jury could, if it so chooses, doubt the veracity of appellants’ claimed honest belief in that very notion. A jury could find, by clear and convincing evidence, that appellants “in fact entertained serious doubts” or had a “high degree of awareness” that the accusations that Dr. Mann engaged in scientific misconduct, fraud, and deception, were false, and, as a result, acted “with reckless disregard” for the statements’ truth when they were published.” (p. 101)
      
      http://www.dccourts.gov/internet/documents/14-CV-101_14-CV-126.pdf
      Mark Steyn clearly wasn’t overjoyed with the finding. He wrote how “Santa has come early and left a lump of coal in my stocking”.
      Good fucken job it will look nice along side your bankruptcy papers once the process has concluded .
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:03am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Steyn likes coal…so he sees it as a good present. And he’s gagging to go to Trial.
        You realise that he wasn’t party to that Judgement you attach? I don’t think you understand where things are at or what is going on.
        I’ll let Steyn explain.
        ‘Almost three years ago, my sometime colleagues at National Review and my co-defendants at the Competitive Enterprise Institute filed an interlocutory appeal to determine, inter alia, whether the new anti-SLAPP law was interlocutorily appealable. Fascinating stuff.
        I was not a party to the appeal, mainly because I’d concluded – after spending the autumn of 2013 listening to two trial judges issuing competing rulings on the same case – that the DC courts were a proceduralist swamp and we might as well move straight to trial.’
        ‘The takeaway is that Mann’s suit against National Review editor (and my old boss) Rich Lowry has been dismissed, but those against me and Rand Simberg will proceed’ (which is what Steyn wants)
        
        As for your quote Steyn responds; ‘You won’t be surprised to hear that I disagree with their ladyships. The “sufficient evidence” Dr Mann has supplied are a series of mendacious claims to have been “investigated” and “exonerated” by multiple Anglo-American bodies that did, in fact, do neither.
        (Links in that sentence supporting Steyns assertions below)
        So I was right not to bother with this proceduralist bollocks: except for Rich Lowry, it was a complete three-year time-waster and we’re back to where we were in January 2014 when I was panting to go to trial. For a near-third-of-a-decade in the making, I do think this troika might have worked a little harder on their argument. For my part, I regard the support for the First Amendment from the ACLU, NBC, The Washington Post et al as more relevant to how this thing is likely to come down in the end – although we may be a few years getting there.’
        Mann is delaying and delaying and delaying. He’ll run out eventually and the Trial will be fun.
        Linkshere:http://www.steynonline.com/7643/walking-in-a-legal-wonderland
        
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        December 24, 2016 9:24am
      - Griff
        
        Yes he is gagging to go to trial
        
        That is why there has been so many attempts to avoid going to trial all on red .
        Back here on earth that is a sign of fear of the consequence.
        You did read the passage from the judgment did you not ?
        Oh thats right you dont read stuff you just gibber stupidity
        the three judges say .
        the [The defendants’ statement that] Dr. Mann has engaged in misconduct has been so definitively discredited,t
        oh dear the court says that Mann has not be exonerated for the claims of misconduct .
        As for Mann delaying .
        Bullshit my poor deluded fool.
        Mann has won the repeated attempts to stop the proceedings …
        
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        December 24, 2016 10:24am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Yep, Steyn has been gagging to go to Trial while Mann has been delaying.
        Steyn says;
        ‘Er, no. It wasn’t my motion.(referring to the Judgement)Nothing to do with me. In fact, I objected to it. As I said above, I thought the appeal was a waste of time, and filed a motion to proceed to trial three years ago. Mann filed a motion objecting to that, a position the judge found ironic. Very droll I’m sure.’
        
        Meanwhile Mann is doing all he can to avoid complying with Discovey for the ACTUAL trial regarding the Defamation not the anti SLAPP suit.Rather odd for someone you say is keen to go to trial…
        As I said, you don’t understand where things are at.
        Mind you, it was funny when the Courts told Mann to remove his claim he had been awarded the Nobel Prize!
        
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        December 24, 2016 10:36am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Just talk over your turkey, Dennis… hot air does wonders to frozen goods.
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:28am
      - William of Ockham
        
        You couldn’t talk turkey if you tried, Maggy, that’s why I give you the coal shoulder.
        
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        December 24, 2016 12:15pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Freeze me out of your life then.
        http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/723481/Earth-ICE-AGE-big-freeze-solar-activity
        
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        December 24, 2016 1:52pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Deeply racist and offensive to compare the current POTUS with a simian just because he’s black.
  
  You should be ashamed of yourself!
  
  I suppose you’ll be repeating the scurrilous slur that his wife is a man just because she has a huge Adam’s apple and broader shoulders than her ‘orangutanus’ husband.
  
  Not funny – but then when are any of your posts.
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:15am
  - stephieboy
    
    DifferentPerspective, I believe William was referring to an orange simian, not you.
    
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    December 24, 2016 8:37am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Lol stephie you failed at comprehension as well as at humour.
      
      Even by your normally weak efforts that was a huge reach – but thanks, you did your bit today to prove (again) why the Left is now forever irrelevant.
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:46am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  To go with the excapidus crooksrus
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:36am
- holysheet
  
  Buggar, the village idiot is back
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:45am
EAD

Sound advice from Savant:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2016/12/a-rhetorical-device.html?m=0

When dealing with whinging immigrants most of us have probably used a derivative of ‘well if you don’t like it here just fuck off back to where you came from’. But based on the principle that if you’re explaining you’re losing maybe posing this recommendation in question form might be better.

Like:
‘Why are you here in a White country?’ ‘If White countries are so bad for you why didn’t you go to a non-White one?’

‘Can we assume by your choosing to live among Whites ahead of your own you see Whites as more desirable co-citizens? If so aren’t we justified in not wanting these less desirable people coming to our countries?’

‘If your own people and culture are so good can we assume you’ll be heading back at the first opportunity? If not, why not? If it’s the case that you actually prefer to live in a White country can we expect that from now on you’ll STFU and just be glad we left you in?’

This structure can of course also be used when arguing with libtards about whingeing immigrants, replacing second person singular with third person plural.

Remember, if you’re explaining you’re losing.

Don’t tend to get myself in too many arguments with enrichers but this will be very useful rebuttal against the SJWs I encounter including here at KB.

Indeed – with Trump’s win & Brexit amongst others, it’s been a bad year for the eternal cuck

http://therightstuff.biz/2016/12/23/the-eternal-cuck/

And on that note – merry Christmas!
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December 24, 2016 8:09am
- EAD
  
  From The Right Stuff article:
  
  Abridged:
  
  They called him a clown, a racist, an Islamophobe, a xenophobe, a homophobe, a fascist, and an anti-Semite. (I would hyperlink to examples, but they’re far too numerous to choose from). Yet with every attempted stumping, his lead only got ten points longer. It seemed nothing could stop his ascent to power. One-by-one, the establishment’s chosen candidates were swept aside. His candidacy seemed to be propelled forward by some inexorable force of nature, as if all of our ancestors had risen in unison to decry the balkinization of our once great country.
  
  All the while, the eternal cuck looked on in Whiggish horror. “B-b-but it’s the Current Year!” he cried. “This wasn’t supposed to happen!”
  
  And that’s how it starts. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good cucks….cruel.
  
  And so the cuck started to lash out. He swung with the wild rage of a man experiencing political disenfranchisement for the first time in his life. He made obscene death threats against white workers in a bizarre genocidal screed entitled “The Father-Furher.” Democracy itself—that most blessed and sacrosanct of institutions to the cuck—was blamed, and the assertion made that the elites needed to “take back” their country from this upstart novus homo and his unruly mob of plebeian usurpers. Charades of third-party candidacy were undertaken, led by the platonic form of cuckservatism himself.
  
  See you on Boxing Day
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:16am
  - mandk
    
    “Yet with every attempted stumping …”
    
    “He swung with the wild rage of a man …”
    
    This is a cricket story, right?
    
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    December 24, 2016 8:27am
  - stephieboy
    
    Even more tidings of hate and more words to add to your lexicon of ill will !
    
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    December 24, 2016 8:42am
    - Manolo
      
      As a Muslim, do you celebrate Christmas, stephieboy?
      
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      December 24, 2016 8:44am
  - Gabby
    
    Cuck soccer.
    
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    December 24, 2016 12:25pm
- mandk
  
  The problem with your illustration, EAD, is that most whinging immigrants are white.
  
  The black, brown and yellow ones just get on with life.
  
  Merry Christmas! And don’t forget that Christ was a Jew.
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:24am
  - Jack5
    
    What’s your evidence for this, mandk?
    
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    December 24, 2016 8:56am
    - mandk
      
      Evidence that Christ was a Jew?
      Luke 2: 22-52.
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:08am
      - Kimbo
        
        No, no!
        
        Griff, our resident scholar of antiquities assures us that the New Testament is not only late in origin, but primarily Pagan and Gentile, not (Palestinian) Jewish in the sources and conceptions it draws upon.
        
        Although how that analysis fits with the first verse of the New Testament:
        
        This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham
        
        (paraphrase: “I’m not a Roman, mum, I’m a Kike, a Yid, a Heebie, a Hook-nose, I’m kosher mum, I’m a Red Sea Pedestrian, and proud of it!”)
        
        …I’m not too sure. Hopefully Griff’s thoughts on AGW are more…grounded 😉
        
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        December 24, 2016 9:39am
      - Kimbo
        
        A man goes to his friend and says, “I don’t understand. I paid for my son to go to a good college, give him all the advantages. Now he comes home and tells me, he is becoming a Christian, becoming a goy. What do you think I should do?”
        
        “Funny you should ask!” says the friend. “I too paid for my son to go to a good college, I gave him all the advantages. Now he tells me, he is becoming a Christian. I think we should go talk to the rabbi!”
        
        So they go to the rabbi and tell him, “Rebbe, we both raised our sons as best we know how, but now they tell us, they want to become Christians. What should we do?”
        
        “Funny you should ask!” says the rabbi. “I too sent my son to yeshiva. And he comes home and tells me, he is thinking of becoming a Christian. I think we should pray!”
        
        So the rabbi raises his hands in prayer. “O, King of the Universe, our sons we have raised to be good Jews, but now they are abandoning our faith and the faith of our fathers. O, Great One, tell us, what we should do?”
        
        And the synagogue was filled suddenly with white light and a voice from the Heavens said…
        
        “Funny you should ask!”
        
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        December 24, 2016 9:50am
      - Griff
        
        Dear akimbo
        Jesus was a jew probably one schooled in the Pharisee tradition.
        
        “What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn”
        
        PS your scholarship of the big book of godwhacking has been conceding willingly by me in the past
        So why the sarcasm ?
        
        “No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means.” – George Bernard Shaw
        
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        December 24, 2016 11:08am
      - holysheet
        
        Kimbo, at least he didn’t want to do a so Sonnybill and become a raghead. How would you live with yourself?
        
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        December 24, 2016 11:30am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Griff
        
        Jesus was a jew probably one schooled in the Pharisee tradition.
        
        Then why his rejection of the law – or at least modification? Matthew 5:17-20, in the context of the Sermon of the Mount, including the refrain
        
        “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago…But I tell…”
        
        at least implies some new era, understanding, and/or application.
        
        And why, if Jesus is relying on the Pharisees, did the Pharisee, Saul of Tarsus persecute the early church?
        
        More likely Jesus of Nazareth drew on many of the divergent strains of 1st century Judaism – both Palestinian and Diaspora – but had his own unique take on it, especially how and when the “Kingdom of God” was manifest. Yes, there is a lot of overlap in content with contemporaneous 1st Century Judaism (hardly surprising when that was his mission field)…but the way Jesus configures the elements is…unique. For Christians that is where the faith element – he was the Son of God – provides the ultimate source.
        
        Other than that, just having some fun with you. Merry Xmas/Saturnalia to you anyway, Griff. 😉
        
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        December 24, 2016 11:59am
      - Griff
        
        Then why his rejection of the law – or at least modification
        
        “What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn
        
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        December 24, 2016 12:07pm
    - Jack5
      
      To mandk (9.08am post):
      
      No, evidence that “most whinging immigrants are white.”
      
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      December 24, 2016 11:15pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD,
  
  Bringing yet more tidings of hate !
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:40am
  - pentwig
    
    daffy
    
    bringing yet more stupidity from an empty brain
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:30am
  - lilman
    
    You want to have thanks for the President of Syria as he will absolutely hammer those Muslim Extremists.
    
    ALLAH AKBAR. (GOATS ARE GREAT)
    
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    December 24, 2016 11:20am
Viking2

Apparently Maori need their own housing systems.

OUTCOMES, REQUIREMENTS AND STRATEGIES IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT:

• Strategic collaboration and good relationships with all stakeholders and key players. A strong Māori housing sector voice is needed to influence central government policy change and streamline or expedite processes, drive the Māori Housing Strategy and bring about changes to increase the availability and accessibility of tools to develop Māori land, housing and/or enable Māori home ownership.

• Practical collaboration between local authorities, Te Puni Kokiri, architects and builders, land Trusts and whānau to realise whānau housing aspirations.

• Good education, information and navigation through bureaucracy and central and local government systems for whānau. This includes using best project management practices for housing projects. The Western Bay of Plenty Sub-Regional Joint Agency Group model was considered a good model to roll out to other regions.

• Good communication within Trusts and their shareholders, and between whānau members, and the utilisation of technology to assist in communication.

A mechanism for the systematic sharing of stories including what works, and what doesn’t work, sharing of information and resources including databases of professionals and experts in ways that are accessible to all whānau.
– See more at: http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/143482-mori-housing-conference-report-released.html#sthash.OkCmMXq5.dpuf

All the desired outcomes are no different from the rest of us.
My 100% pakeha grandchildren will not be given the same privileges as my 10% Maori grandchildren.

Utter disgrace and come about because our govt. just doesn’t want to be colour and ethnically neutral.
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December 24, 2016 8:10am
- Reid
  
  Well this is another thing Key could have spent some political capital on, but chose not to, isn’t it.
  
  And yet many here see nothing wrong with not doing that, apparently.
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:14am
- mikenmild
  
  ‘the same privilefes’
  Like lower life expectancy, poorer health and education, less wealth, and a greater chance of imprisonment?
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:25am
  - holysheet
    
    So its easier to try to drag the rest of us down to their level, rather than bring them up to ours?
    
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    December 24, 2016 8:49am
  - GoVege
    
    Mm: most of those could be solved by adopting those strange western customs of :
    1) using contraception
    2) marrying and respecting the mother of your children.
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:16am
    - PhilBest
      
      “…marrying and respecting the mother of your children…”
      
      That is sooooo Victorian and patriarchical, don’t you know? Where have you been since the cultural Marxist takeover of the institutions since the 1960’s?
      
      Furthermore, it is politically incorrect to talk this way any more, hence none of our “mainstream centre right” political representatives ever do talk this way. This is the preserve of fringe fundamentalist bigots like the ones in the Conservative Party.
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:45am
  - PhilBest
    
    One thing Iwi leadership COULD use all those swathes of “Maori land” holdings for, would be to develop it for housing. Sections don’t need to be $400,000 for 1/10 of an acre if you can do an end run around the racket run by Council Planners and their growth boundaries. “Maori” (Iwi leaders, in reality) have it in their power to solve both their own housing problems, and the whole nation’s housing affordability problem.
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:49am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Do they want to go back to whares?
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:30am
- GoVege
  
  Sounds like the usual hot-airfest run by the Maori Party to justify their salaries.
  What’s with the pic of the ladies inspecting flax bags?
  Oh that’s right….
  Maori women just need to get on with their domestic chores while the men pontificate and all will continue to be perfect in Maori society.
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:38am
- Komata
  
  Viking
  
  Re the ‘privilege’ accorded to ‘Maori’. I’m in a somewhat similar situation, being the only Anglo in an extended Maori / PI family.
  
  Lets just say that in such a situation ‘privilege’ is definitely a one-way street and that, if you know which way is up, and have a suntan, it’s amazing what can occur.
  
  It’s very, very educational as I’m sure you’ve already found out.
  
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  December 24, 2016 11:23am
  - Viking2
    
    Komata,
    We are very much viking and independent and my grandkids are growing up with that influence, especially from my son. They are very strong willed and independant at this time so I have lots of hope.
    The other son has a Philipino wife and their kids brain power ( very high IQ), and propensity to work and learn will over come the lack of brown funding.
    My daughters kids are all pakeha and so are lumbered with things like student loans etc.
    The oldest one said to me the other day ‘I don’t know why I spent so much money paying the polytech for what was a fairly poor education.”
    
    Her point was that they failed to teach so much about some subjects which she is now working with. Not value for money but that has been obvious for quite a while, especially in the trades side. Work based training is so much better.
    She’s also very bright so can figure stuff out but its frustrating having a student loan after paying for so little value.
    
    My own observation is that many of these courses are not based on a reasonable work rate but are shuffled around to fill the terms and keep bums on seats to pay the polytech overheads. 3 or 4 hours a day, 4 days a week. Doesn’t push people and just takes weeks longer than it should with no outside practical work for the rest of those days unless a kid has the will.
    Bad programming both by the poly and to the kids brain.
    
    The gifting of money to the poly’s do they can fill rooms needs to be scrutinized and the standards upped quite a lot.
    
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    December 24, 2016 1:36pm
Paulus Gnome

One sleep to go! ☺
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December 24, 2016 8:12am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Two. I’m going to have a nap this afternoon 🙂
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:16am
  - Viking2
    
    Is that acceptable.
    Yes.
    Good will have one as well.
    
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    December 24, 2016 1:37pm
- burt
  
  Allah Akbar ……
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:03am
Happychappy

What a germ Winston Peters is as he likes to still take pot shots at John Key without any foundation.Again this man is trying to create rumour and negativity about Key by saying there is reasons still unknown of why he left office and not because he wanted more time with his family. This time around the last Election he was spreading lies about Huka Falls this time his gutter Politics is about John Key, time for people to wake up and see what a 72Year old has to say to get traction.
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December 24, 2016 8:23am
- holysheet
  
  Winston First is not coherent at the best of times. When he pays back to the taxpayer the stolen $150,000, he may have some shred of credibility. Until he does that, ignore him.
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:54am
  - burt
    
    $158,000 – sorry to be picky with the detail.
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:04am
    - holysheet
      
      That’s okay. My drink addled brain is still not firing on full beam. Too early in the morning.
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:11am
      - Komata
        
        Re: My drink addled brain is still not firing on full beam
        
        Jim, or a copy?
        
        (One has to ask).
        
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        December 24, 2016 11:28am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      The ammont was discounted in the vain hope that the dd would do the right thing and pay up.
      Turns out, it was a vain hope.
      
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      December 24, 2016 1:44pm
  - PhilP
    
    $158,000 I tell u $158,000
    
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    December 24, 2016 2:09pm
Manolo

The Muslim in the White House:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_UNITED_NATIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-23-12-09-24

An Israeli official on Friday accused President Barack Obama of colluding with the Palestinians in a “shameful move against Israel at the U.N.” after learning the White House did not intend to veto a Security Council resolution condemning settlement construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem the day before.
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December 24, 2016 8:24am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, there’s gratitude for you with” The Muslim” authorising $3.8 billion of military aid to Israel back in September ,
  
  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/09/14/united-states-military-aid-israel/90358564/
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:50am
  - burt
    
    It was not enough.
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:05am
  - holysheet
    
    Stupidboy, it’s called (very approtiately) indian giving.
    You give on one hand to Israel, billions of dollars in arms. Then you are being seen to support the Palastinians, that the arms are designed to be protection from.
    
    Your idols Killary and Obumma, were masters of this practice of Indian giving. Much easier to back both sides, than have the balls to confront conflict head on. You muzzies only respect strength not weakness. Trump will not put up with shit like this.
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:07am
    - stephieboy
      
      burt , do you think Barack should of added an additional 300 x Nuclear warheads to Israel ‘s shopping list as a Christmas present ?
      
      Different perspective , Trump will add these nukes to israels wish list ?
      
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      December 24, 2016 11:22am
      - Komata
        
        Why should Israel ‘wish’ for nukes?
        
        They know the realities and have taken the necessary steps.
        
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        December 24, 2016 11:29am
- MCos
  
  The anti settlement resolution was passed by the security council with the US abstaining.
  New Zealand was one of the four countries that put the resolution forward.
  Don’t choke on your Wheetbix
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:50am
- Gabby
  
  The illegal construction you mean.
  
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  December 24, 2016 12:32pm
sooty

I see the Kelvin Davis fan club have commited 730 crimes in 2yrs. All deported crimes from Australia.
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December 24, 2016 8:33am
flipper

Bugger the silly season politics, and a big F*** Off to the bullshit CNDs trying to escape from their coffins, it’s time to make the fresh multi-grain bread, guacamole and the ice-cold gazpacho for lunch tomorrow – all accompanied by a pureed peach punch fortified by sparking white.
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December 24, 2016 8:38am
DifferentPerspective

Is Immigration NZ vetting anyone?

I know there’s plenty of hate for WOBH here – but this one is a super job. There are potential signals that terrorists are easily sneaking through INZ’s filters.

The fact that Achmed Zaoui’s lawyer (and Labour activist) is involved is interesting.
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December 24, 2016 8:40am
- stephieboy
  
  Pretty pathethic when Kailesh Thanabalasingham and family has been here for at least three years and hostilities in the Sri Lankan civil have ceased .
  
  Scraping the bottom of the barrel stuff by Whale Blubber !
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:57am
- fernglas
  
  For someone who regularly criticises the mainstream media for its failure to properly fact-check stories, and indeed did so to good effect only yesterday, Oil is running a bit of a risk here assuming that because the name is the same and age similar that they are one and the same person.
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:57am
- Jack5
  
  Careful about Zaui’s lawyer. She just may be the lawyer of the Stephie Islamic trolling syndicate.
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:58am
- BeeSting
  
  Interesting? Why
  
  The Left are anti white and anti christian and anti
  anything good.
  
  They like Hitler need thugs to do their dirty work.
  
  http://leninandsharia.com/
  
  Lenin takes office
  8 November 1917
  
  ‘To all the Muslim workers of Russia and the East’, issued by the fledgling Soviet government on 24 November 1917, stated:
  
  Muslims of Russia…all you whose mosques and prayer houses have been destroyed, whose beliefs and customs have been trampled upon by the tsars and oppressors of Russia: your beliefs and practices, your national and cultural institutions are forever free and inviolate. Know that your rights, like those of all the peoples of Russia, are under the mighty protection of the revolution…
  
  The Left and I s l a m both have the same goals
  and work together for the destruction
  of white european christian civilisation.
  
  As they always have.
  
  As they do today which is why they installed
  a m o s l e m – communist – anti american
  terrorist in the White House.
  
  Even when Trump gets in they will
  Assassinate him
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:04am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “They like Hitler need thugs to do their dirty work.”
    
    No, like STALIN and the Communists, with plenty of Jew leadership involved eg “he Blood Thirsty Dwarf, who exterminated millions more than the Nazis, and were doing it a decade or more before the Nazis turned up.
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:24am
    - stephieboy
      
      Jazz Hands Mc Feels , Yagoda executed by Stalin and replaced by the depraved Laventry Beria ,a gentile !
      
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/1450145/Stalins-depraved-executioner-still-has-grip-on-Moscow.html
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:27am
Sarkozygroupie

Bravo the US on its post resolution statement on Israeli settlements just now. No mincing of words calling out the UN on its utter hypocrisy and continuing policy of isolating and castigating Israel, at the same as continuing its policy to refuse to find the political will to deal with the real terrorism practiced by states such as South Sudan and the Palestinians.
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December 24, 2016 8:46am
- Reid
  
  The UN Security Council has passed a resolution demanding an end to the construction of Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian territories after the US abstained from voting.
  
  The resolution was introduced to the UNSC by New Zealand, Malaysia, Venezuela and Senegal on Friday, a day after Egypt withdrew reportedly under pressure from Israel and US President-elect Donald Trump.
  
  Read some of the comments from the Israel-firster zionists Ari Fleisher and Liz Cheney:
  
  https://www.rt.com/news/371537-unsc-resolution-israel-occupation-stop/
  
  Very glad NZ was one of the sponsors, the only Five Eyes member with the guts to do it. Still, the zionists will make us pay, you watch. We’re in for a big, vicious terrorist attack now. At which of course you’ll all loudly bray and wail about the Muslims, not realising they’re just the dumb patsies, the real guilty parties being located in Tel Aviv.
  
  I wonder if this is why Key resigned. He didn’t want to be considered part of it amongst the masters of the universe, or maybe he was even forced to by them.
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:00am
  - holysheet
    
    Another of your conspiracy theories Reid?
    How is the global financial melt down going? Any update on this for the new year?
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:16am
    - Reid
      
      No this is just how the world works holysheet. Mossad does this all the time, the fact you’re unaware of what it does doesn’t make what it does not exist.
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:20am
      - Reid
        
        And on the global meltdown, why do you think the Fed raised the rates? It’s going to use that as a mechanism to destroy any growth Trump’s policies looks to generate. All through Obama’s term the Fed nursed the broken, damaged and crippled by debt and unemployment economy along by making debt free. Now, as soon as Obama leaves, it’s raising them. Isn’t that convenient.
        
        Economic illiterates who happen to also be known as sheeple because they’re geopolitically illiterate as well, think the rate rise is because the economy is doing well, but these dummies are the same people who always think the bubble will keep going, until it doesn’t anymore, surprising them every single time. You’d think they’d learn wouldn’t you but apparently not. Normally they don’t even know there’s a bubble even when they’re in one. How dumb is that?
        
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        December 24, 2016 9:34am
      - holysheet
        
        You need to be more specific for us dumb people Reid. I seem to recall you made predictions down to the nearest month last year about when the financial meltdown was going to happen. What has happened to your crystal ball since then?
        
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        December 24, 2016 12:53pm
  - fernglas
    
    Trump doesn’t seem to have liked it either. His latest tweet says things with the UN will be different after Jan 20th. Interesting to watch.
    
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    December 24, 2016 9:20am
    - Reid
      
      Too late on this now, ain’t it. This is like the moment Russia walked out of the UNSC before the vote on Vietnam or was it Korea, one of the two.
      
      Goes down in history. About time.
      
      Now it’s a question of legitimacy. The US of course under Trump will refuse to comply. But in the past refusal to comply with UN resolutions has always been accompanied by other Western nations so it’s not a lone nation on its own. This time, the US may be on its own.
      
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      December 24, 2016 9:26am
  - mandk
    
    I’ve got this theory, see?
    
    The real reason why Key resigned was that he was knackered and didn’t feel he had much more to offer.
    
    No, hold on. Wasn’t that the reason he gave?
    
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    December 24, 2016 10:34am
- SPC
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38421026
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:59am
  - SPC
    
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38215653
    
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    December 24, 2016 10:12am
    - All_on_Red
      
      They’re not going to give it back are they. Whether it’s right or wrong, in the face of all the opposition to Israel, why should they really care what the rest of the world thinks.
      
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      December 24, 2016 10:24am
  - SPC
    
    Why has our government not pushed a UNSC Resolution condemning Pakistan on this matter?
    
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38222680
    
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    December 24, 2016 10:19am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Agree. It’s tough being a Christian in Pakistan. We should be taking them in as refugees.
      
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      December 24, 2016 10:26am
      - Jack5
        
        All_on_Red: Refugees to NZ are overwhelmingly Muslim.
        
        You seldom if ever hear of refugees being from the Christian community that is being wiped out in the Middle East, or from persecuted non-Muslim refugees such as Yazidis.
        
        The latest Muslims coming to NZ are the ethnic-Indian Rohingya, from Burma-Myanmar.
        
        The 2.2 million Christians of Burma-Myanmar have been and are being severely persecuted, including Christians who were staunch allies of the British forces in the jungle war against Japan in World War 2. There have been no calls from the UN and their Leftist mates in NZ for NZ’s refugee quota to include these Christians.
        
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        December 24, 2016 10:59pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Another Progressive revealing the true feelings and intentions of the Left – “whites are pure evil and need to be eliminated”:

Jason Pollock Verified account
‏@Jason_Pollock

White people know their reign of terror here is coming to an end. The U.S. is becoming less & less white each year. It’s driving them crazy.
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December 24, 2016 9:26am
- Reid
  
  http://www.thedailysheeple.com/racist-schools-are-teaching-students-that-whiteness-is-a-problem_122016
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:27am
Biscuit

May I, as an of-a-certain-age, boringly-straight, National-voting, cat-stroking, Hurricanes-supporting, modestly-sexy, white, male citizen of Godzone, wish a pleasant upcoming forty or so hours to even those Kiwibloggers out there who DON’T have such wondrous qualities?
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December 24, 2016 9:26am
- Manolo
  
  The greetings are well received. 🙂
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:29am
- Keeping Stock
  
  You may indeed Biscuit, and your greetings will doubtless be graciously received.
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:30am
- Dave Mann
  
  wish a pleasant upcoming forty or so hours
  
  I think the phrase you are searching for is ‘Merry Christmas’. In which case, many thanks and you too. ?
  
  p.s. Are you a ginger biscuit, a vanilla or wine biscuit or more of a malt biscuit? Whatever type you are, Merry Christmas to you!
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:35am
  - holysheet
    
    Or a dog or cat biscuit. Don’t forget the pets at xmas.
    
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    December 24, 2016 11:34am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Hurricanes supporting… that part makes it marginal biscuit!?
  
  Merry Christmas
  
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  December 24, 2016 11:39am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Thank you Biscuit, I recognise all those outstanding qualities and raise you a modest 5 kg middle flab that seems to have taken up permanent residence over time – merry Christmas to you and all the little snack size biscuits
  
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  December 24, 2016 1:52pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  But of course you may, Biscuit. And thanks. I wish you the same, except I support the Chiefs – and live on The Shore!
  
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  December 24, 2016 5:55pm
Manolo

The mole and her patron reunite:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4059868/Hillary-Clinton-Huma-Abedin-pictured-time-losing-election-five-hour-meeting-failed-candidate-s-New-York-office.html
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December 24, 2016 9:31am
- holysheet
  
  The thing that caught my eye was the fact Weiner was being probed by the FBI.
  Oww, thats gotta hurt
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:40am
- Reid
  
  I wonder if Trump’s going to pursue the investigation. That decision will be very telling in a lot of ways.
  
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  December 24, 2016 9:46am
  - stephieboy
    
    Reid , I doubt it given e.g Trumps known associations with lurid child sex slaver Jeffrey Epstein
    
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    December 24, 2016 11:26am
pdm

Biscuit – moderately sexy?

I think I should canvas a few people for second opinions on that. Luckily I have the email addresses to do so – lol.

Merry Christmas.
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December 24, 2016 9:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I was ranking him as very sexy when I read the cat-stroking bit, but the ranking dropped a few notches with the rugby reference.
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:05am
- Biscuit
  
  O darn, rumbled!
  
  MC to you too, pdm!
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:05am
flipper

Reid
The UN Security Council…………etc …………etc……
ad nauseum.

When 192 odd, so called “nations” vote on something like this it makes one realise how stupid that the so called UN is. But NZ has always been in awe of the panty-waist, gin guzzling idiots that inhabit Wellington and New York et al. The resolution may have “passed” but it has already passed its use-by date and will never be given effect since post January 20 the US will veto any action that quotes (and the UN’s primary course of action is to quote resolution number bullshit) it.
Tough shit rag heads ………… and stop attacking the only democracy in the Middle East.
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December 24, 2016 9:42am
Reid

What about: simply comply with international law and withdraw to your internationally recognised borders is the least bit unreasonable to expect or demand, flipper?

Why shouldn’t Israel be asked nay required to do that, like every other country is held to? This applies to every country on Earth and Israel has no special exemption, so why should she be granted one? What’s the grounds? Why is she so profoundly special, unique and exceptional that she should not be held to the same standards as every single other country is?
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December 24, 2016 9:57am
- Reid
  
  Let’s hope those who downtick at least bother to answer the entirely reasonable question because surely they can, if they’ve downticked.
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:09am
- Lucia Maria
  
  What about: simply comply with international law and withdraw to your internationally recognised borders is the least bit unreasonable to expect or demand, flipper?
  
  Imagine if you could apply that same thinking to Russia!
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:13am
  - Reid
    
    But I do Lucia, it’s you who doesn’t. 🙂
    
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    December 24, 2016 10:17am
    - Lucia Maria
      
      LOL, Reid! You are funny!
      
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      December 24, 2016 10:24am
    - DoctorDoc
      
      What exactly do you consider Russias borders Reid? The former USSR?
      
      Nazis and commies are one and the same they really are.
      
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      December 24, 2016 1:54pm
  - SPC
    
    Once upon a time there was a man who was before his son called Abraham. He left Canaan and had a son called Adam in Ur Sumer. He had a descendant called Noah of Haran in northern Mesopotamia. His descendant Abraham migrated to Canaan.
    
    Once upon a time Americans migrated into Mexican territory (now called Texas and California) – because there was no wall. Then they said they wanted this land to be part of the USA.
    
    Once upon a time there were Russians who lived within Russia where they lived until they did not (1993). But some wanted to return to being part of Russia where they lived.
    
    Once upon a time Jews lived in eretz Israel and today they want the right to settle all of the land and have dominion over all of it. This requires the 1947 partition plan to be sent to the future time of the coming of God to rule over the earth – never never land. So that Jews can rule and reign and Arabs live in their confined spaces (walled off Arabstans).
    
    Putin, Trump and birds of a feather.
    
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    December 24, 2016 10:52am
- All_on_Red
  
  Hang on, didn’t Jordan cede all claims of sovereignty to the West Bank to Israel in 1988?
  And that was ‘internationally recognised’.
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:18am
  - SPC
    
    No and no.
    
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    December 24, 2016 10:54am
    - All_on_Red
      
      So what did Jordan do? Didn’t Israel win it from Jordan in the 67 war? (am happy to admit I’m no expert on the in and outs of all the land disputes over there- looks like a real mess to me!)
      
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      December 24, 2016 10:58am
      - SPC
        
        Jordan and Egypt occupied (but did not incorporate into their states) the WB and Gaza until each made separate peace deals with Israel (formal end to the war between them because Arab nations wanted a unitary Arab majority Palestine state – one not existing to receive further Jewish migration).
        
        In 1949 the UN banned annexation of territory acquired by conquest. However an unofficial Israel position is that as there was no existing state in Gaza or the WB this did not apply. Thus they claimed east Jerusalem – a prelude to making a claim to some of the WB when making a peace deal with “Arabstan” Palestinians.
        
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        December 24, 2016 11:19am
- kowtow
  
  Grounds?
  
  National suicide. In the unique circumstance that Israel finds itself in ,going back to ’67 borders would mean the end of Israel as a state.
  
  How many other countries are forced to accept annihilation?
  
  And there is very ancient legal/phlosophical maxim covering this.
  
  Salus populi suprema lex est.
  
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  December 24, 2016 2:02pm
Lucia Maria

Merry Christmas Eve to everyone!

I’m about to get into my pierogi making in earnest this morning, having made the filling yesterday. Pierogi are a traditional Polish food for Christmas Eve night. I’ve been making them for a couple of years now, but still need a lot of practice!

A few words about Christmas for the deniers amongst us:
The traditional Jewish date that the world was made by God is considered to be March 25.
The Incarnation was also March 25.
The Incarnation is when the Holy Spirit came down over Mary and Jesus was incarnated into physicality.
Nine months later is December 25 – when Jesus was born.
That’s why we celebrate Christmas on December 25th!
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December 24, 2016 10:20am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The piroshki maker has just turned up….
  Timeline:
  10:30pm… start the yeast mix
  10:45pm… add yeast mix to flour/melted butter/egg and knead dough
  11pm. Leave dough covered with a damp cloth
  
  7am make a cup of tea
  7:30am Feed cats
  8am Another cup of tea
  8:10 Say goodmorning to Dennis
  8:15 Fry up chopped onions
  8:30 Chop half a cabbage ..and simmer with a little water and butter
  9am boil 3 eggs for 10min
  9:05 (clean up boiled-over egg water)
  9:30am Take stewed cabbage off heat… add dill, fried onions, and chopped eggs
  9:35 Open doors, windows etc to cleanse the house of sulfurous fumes
  10:00 baking paper on trays; eggwash prepared;
  locate husband
  
  10:15 Hubby rolls and cuts dough, starts filling and shaping 1st tray of piroshki
  10:33 Praise hubby, coz they look good
  10:35 brush piroshki with egg wash…. leave for 10 min.. then in oven 180degC for 10-15min.
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:35am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    I’m making pierogi ruskie, the filling being finely chopped fried till golden onions, mashed potato (I’m using those purple potatoes), and cottage cheese. Once they are made and boiled, I fry them in butter and serve with golden fried onions and sour cream.
    
    I’m also going to make some dessert pierogi out of blueberries, which will be a first.
    
    My timetable doesn’t look anything as efficient as yours as I’ve just finished breakfast. Had a late night drinking with the neighbours, so bit of a slow start this morning …
    
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    December 24, 2016 11:10am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Sound much too much like hard work to me.
      Just as well its women’s work 😉
      
      Enjoy your piroshki and pierogi, Ladies, and have a blessed and joyful Christmas. 🙂
      
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      December 24, 2016 11:23am
      - stephieboy
        
        yeah and let your beer gut expand male chauvinist pig !
        
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        December 24, 2016 6:00pm
- SPC
  
  Judaism has the birthday of Adam at Rosh Hashanah (their new year). Our spring, northern autumn harvest.
  
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  December 24, 2016 11:31am
  - SPC
    
    The actual metaphor is c Dec new solar year beginning (conception/faith) and autumn harvest/saved humanity born again (surviving death).
    
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    December 24, 2016 11:59am
Fletch

After 9/11, the U.S compiled a database to keep tabs on visitors from countries with terrorist groups. Now Obama is taking it apart so that Trump can’t use it.

The Obama administration is formally tearing apart a national registry which was used to keep tabs on visitors from countries with terrorist groups, the Department of Homeland Security announced today. The National Security Entry-Exit Registration System (NSEERS) was developed after 9/11 and was widely criticized as a way to unjustly track of Muslims and Arabs in the US. It was, in many ways, a relic of the former Bush administration’s “War on Terror.” The DHS stopped using the NSEERS registry in 2011 because it was “redundant, inefficient and provided no increase in security,” DHS spokesperson Neema Hakin told the New York Times.

With today’s announcement, the Obama administration is making sure that Donald Trump won’t be able to use the existing program as the basis for his so-called “Muslim registry.” That won’t stop Trump’s ambitions entirely, but it’ll make his anti-immigration promises much harder to fulfill. Over 80,000 people from 25 countries were pushed onto the NSEERS program, which required them to be fingerprinted, photographed and forced to attend periodic DHS interviews.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/22/obama-dismantles-nseers/
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December 24, 2016 10:42am
- Reid
  
  DHS has a number of biometric databases and those guys will be on those too, but it’s yet another demonstration Obama doesn’t care about the national interest if it means he can make it more difficult for Trump, and this won’t stop when he leaves. He’ll become a leading member of the Purple Revolution, you watch. Breaking of course the apolitical traditions of all previous ex-Presidents, but why would the worst President in US history care about that. And after Bush 43, you wouldn’t have thought anyone could possibly be worse, yet here we are.
  
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  December 24, 2016 10:54am
  - VicParking
    
    Second worst, you forgot about Clinton
    
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    December 24, 2016 11:17am
    - Reid
      
      Yeah well since Bush 41 it’s been downhill, mostly courtesy of the idiot neocons who have featured large throughout. Even before he got in, Bush 41 was already ruining things, being behind Iran-contra, that’s how long its been running, one direction, till now.
      
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      December 24, 2016 11:32am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , it only kept tabs on Arabs especially those known to be Al Qeada and other terror suspects . The countries focussed were Saudia Arabia and those from Gulf states . It was introduced by the GWB administation after 9/11 for obvious reasons
  
  Trump wants t a more blanket sytem for all Muslims from no matter where they are from .
  
  NSEERS was also known to be ineffective and out of date .
  
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  December 24, 2016 11:35am
Lucia Maria

Just a reminder to everyone, these GD threads, now that we have inline commenting, get very, very difficult to follow as GD gets larger.

So it doesn’t hurt to comment on the top level, as I’m doing here. It moves the activity to the bottom of the thread as opposed to random locations through the thread. And gives us a page two after 100 comments. Which, for evening highjinks separates the serious business from the more light hearted.

So, don’t be shy and spread out!
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December 24, 2016 11:05am
Johnboy

Anytime you wish to spread out I’m only too keen to administer to you Lucia my dear! 🙂
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December 24, 2016 11:11am
Johnboy

A poem for xmas (many thanks to Norm of the South) 🙂

The sun was hot already – it was only 8 o’clock
The cocky took off in his Ute, to go and check his stock.
He drove around the paddocks checking wethers, ewes and lambs,
The float valves in the water troughs, the windmills on the dams

He stopped and turned a windmill on to fill a water tank
And saw a ewe down in the dam, a few yards from the bank.
“Typical bloody sheep,” he thought, “they’ve got no common sense,
“They won’t go through a gateway but they’ll jump a bloody fence.”

The ewe was stuck down in the mud, he knew without a doubt
She’d stay there ’til she carked it if he didn’t get her out.
But when he reached the water’s edge, the startled ewe broke free
And in her haste to get away, began a swimming spree.

He reckoned once her fleece was wet, the weight would drag her down
If he didn’t rescue her, the stupid sod would drown.
Her style was unimpressive, her survival chances slim
He saw no other option, he would have to take a swim.

He peeled his shirt and singlet off, his trousers, boots and socks
And as he couldn’t stand wet clothes, he also shed his jocks.
He jumped into the water and away that cocky swam
He caught up with her somewhere near the middle of the dam.

The ewe was quite evasive, she kept giving him the slip
He tried to grab her sodden fleece but couldn’t get a grip.
At last he got her to the bank and stopped to catch his breath
She showed him little gratitude for saving her from death.

She took off like a Bondi tram around the other side
He swore next time he caught that ewe he’d hang her bloody hide.
Then round and round the dam they ran, although he felt quite puffed
He still thought he could run her down, she must be nearly
stuffed..

The local stock rep came along, to pay a call that day.
He knew this bloke was on his own, his wife had gone away,
He didn’t really think he’d get fresh scones for morning tea
But neither was he ready for what he was soon to see.

He rubbed his eyes in disbelief at what came into view
For running down the catchment came this frantic-looking ewe.
And on her heels in hot pursuit and wearing not a stitch
The farmer yelling wildly, “Come back here, you lousy bitch!”

The stock rep didn’t hang around, he took off in his car
The cocky’s reputation has been damaged near and far
So bear in mind the Work Safe rule when next you check your flocks
Spot the hazard, assess the risk, and always wear your jocks!
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December 24, 2016 11:12am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  The bard who wrote the poem must have been a witness to your antics, JB. 🙂
  
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  December 24, 2016 11:26am
  - Johnboy
    
    Don he was a man of enormous potential difference who always made time to put a new hot point into a ladies front passage even if he he had to access it via her bedroom. 🙂
    
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    December 24, 2016 11:33am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Ah – typical bloody electrician. 🙂
      
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      December 24, 2016 12:46pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Stolen, great work Johnboy
  
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  December 24, 2016 3:18pm
Lucia Maria

Ah, there you are Johnboy. Pervy as ever, I see!
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December 24, 2016 11:15am
Johnboy

At least I always uptick you my dear! 🙂

Hell you got two that time……my normal eight would be better for you! 🙂
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December 24, 2016 11:18am
- holysheet
  
  Johnboy get your spelling right.
  Didn’t you mean “upstick”?
  
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  December 24, 2016 11:27am
Lucia Maria

I do appreciate the moral support, Johnboy. Some of these heathens just can’t cope with the reminder that Christmas is a religious holiday, for instance.
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December 24, 2016 11:20am
Johnboy

Exactly Lucia. The heathen bastards keep out breeding us good christian folk.
If you ever feel you want to do something to help reverse this trend feel free to contact me! 🙂
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December 24, 2016 11:24am
Lucia Maria

Sorry, Johnboy, I’m waiting for menopause. It can’t come soon enough.
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December 24, 2016 11:27am
- Johnboy
  
  I could come sooner if it would help Lucia? 🙂
  
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  December 24, 2016 11:34am
Happychappy

Merry Xmas to all who post on Kiwiblog whether blue ,red ,green or black in your Political Standings and remember what a great Country that NZ is when you take a look at the frightening and barbaric treatment that others face around the world at present times.Cheers
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December 24, 2016 11:33am
- Johnboy
  
  That’s not very Happy Chappy! 🙂
  
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  December 24, 2016 11:36am
cha

For those who’d like to support Lukasz Urban’s family.

https://www.gofundme.com/van9vwuk
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December 24, 2016 11:50am
BeeSting

M o s l e m psychopaths

intended to Blow up My Family ,
Friends and Work Colleagues
some time today or Tomorrow.

They were stopped (so far).

Merry Christmas
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December 24, 2016 11:58am
- Awww C-mon
  
  The terrorist within can have many meanings aye beesting.
  
  While it is a good thing the Melbourne attacks were foiled can the same be said for your inner battle?
  
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  December 24, 2016 3:56pm
Reid

Can Obama possibly ruin America anymore than he already has? A good summary of his reign, even now still supported by lefties everywhere. Aren’t lefties stooooooooooopid. Of course being such racists lefties probably had lower expectations of success because he was Black (or so he said, looks more Indonesian to me…).

http://journal-neo.org/2016/12/11/can-you-ruin-america-any-further-at-this-point/
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December 24, 2016 12:17pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , like holding Putin and his Kremlin to account over Ukraine ( sanctions ) and Flight M17 ( their obvious complicity ) and of course Syria ( by refusing to back a murderous thug , Assad )
  
  Make up your mind ! Kenyan or Indonesian or more accurately and factually born in Hawaii )
  
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  December 24, 2016 12:38pm
- BeeSting
  
  YES WE CAN
  
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  December 24, 2016 1:36pm
rangitoto

Christmas nightmare for Gareth Morgan.

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/crazy-cat-lady-christmas-tree.jpg
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December 24, 2016 12:23pm
Manolo

This animal’s life came to an abrupt end:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4061096/Berlin-market-killer-Anis-Amri-shot-dead-Italy-Milan-police.html
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December 24, 2016 12:44pm
- kowtow
  
  Those Eyeties are full of surprises. Who’da thought they’d be out and about pounding the quiet, lonely , cold but very dangerous beat at unGodly hours when they could have been tucked up in a bed, radio turned down,boots off, belt loosened , skiving off and dreaming of fat mamas.
  
  A job well done.
  
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  December 24, 2016 2:14pm
Manolo

Merkel’s legacy. Watch out for guys like this who roam Mt Roskill streets:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4062960/Migrant-accused-raping-assaulting-six-women-Germany-complained-did-not-girlfriend-wanted-sex.html

A migrant who is accused of raping one woman and assaulting five others said he could not find a girlfriend and ‘wanted to have sex.’

The 26-year-old from Pakistan, identified only as Asif M., is alleged to have approached the women on the street in Berlin, before dragging them away to assault them.
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December 24, 2016 12:47pm
- doggone7
  
  To avoid such happening on the Mt Roskill streets, and others, what would you specifically do?
  
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  December 24, 2016 1:12pm
  - Inandout
    
    Have every woman walking around Mt Roskill to carry a pork chop in her handbag.
    
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    December 24, 2016 1:56pm
fylde

Very disappointing to see NZ sponsor the anti Israel UN resolution. Bad start for the English regime. Is English being a fundamental Catholic a key driver.
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December 24, 2016 12:51pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Proposed under Key before English took over.
  
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  December 24, 2016 1:00pm
  - Manolo
    
    A serious mistake, nonetheless.
    
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    December 24, 2016 1:20pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Why ?
      
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      December 24, 2016 6:05pm
      - pentwig
        
        are you too thick to think it out daffy?
        fool
        
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        December 24, 2016 7:55pm
  - Inandout
    
    Key is Jewish FGS, what makes him tick?
    
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    December 24, 2016 1:57pm
- Reid
  
  No it’s the best thing we’ve ever done. The last time we did this was the anti-nuke move, and that was plain dumb, as well as plain wrong. This one however, is correct, true and just every step of every way.
  
  The only downside is it infuriates an international thug which has never shown any restraint in taking its revenge in the past, so why would we expect it to show any this time? But that’s no reason not to stand up to the thug and boot him hard in the balls, as we just did. Hooray for us. It’s a great day to be an NZer.
  
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  December 24, 2016 1:42pm
chiz

Fethullah Gulen vs. Waldorf
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December 24, 2016 12:52pm
Manolo

Another Muslim lone wolf is stopped before the terror strike:
http://www.abc15.com/news/crime/isis-sympathizer-in-phoenix-was-plotting-a-lone-wolf-attack

Investigators say a Phoenix man was plotting a lone wolf attack in support of ISIS.

Derrick Thompson, who also goes by the name Abu Talib Al-Amriki, was arrested by the Arizona Joint Terrorism Taskforce earlier this week.
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December 24, 2016 1:23pm
- Inandout
  
  He should go straight to Gitmo and then stay until his final breath.
  
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  December 24, 2016 2:00pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Derrick Thompson, who also goes by the name Abu Talib Al-Amriki, was arrested
  
  How does this work? Do they use a software-based algorithm to convert their Anglo-Saxon names to Arabic-sounding ones?
  
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  December 24, 2016 2:15pm
- kowtow
  
  Lots of them about. Strange how the MSM do their best to downplay these things.
  
  “Two brothers from Kosovo have been arrested by German police on suspicion of plotting to attack the country’s largest shopping mall in Oberhausen, near the Dutch border.”
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/23/two-arrested-suspicion-plotting-attack-germanys-largest-shopping/
  
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  December 24, 2016 2:19pm
- Johnboy
  
  If my Mummy and Daddy had named me Derrick I’d want to change my name to Abu or something! 🙂
  
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  December 24, 2016 4:07pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Fair enough Johnboy, but don’t you think going from “Derrick” to “Abu Talib Al-Amriki” is a bit of an overreaction? Maybe just Abu Al-Derrick?
    
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    December 24, 2016 5:26pm
Manolo

European folly. The terrorist entered as one of the many invaders:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2469333/berlin-terror-trucker-anis-amri-pictured-with-other-migrants-on-italian-island-of-lampedusa-in-2011-after-escaping-arab-spring-in-his-native-tunisia/

Pictures reported to show Berlin terror trucker Anis Amri as he arrived in Europe have emerged in the Italian media.

A man identified by Corriere della Sera and other news outlets as Amri, then aged 18, sits with his hood up as he watches police on the Italian island of Lampedusa.
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December 24, 2016 1:43pm
- Inandout
  
  I love the photo of the terrorist’s mother learning her son had gone to the virgins. There appeared more sons in the background ready to take his place. These idiot breeders seem to have no compassion for their offspring.
  
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  December 24, 2016 3:44pm
Manolo

This is bound to inflame, enrage and incense stephieboy:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin-trump-idUSKBN14C0WE?il=0

Russia’s Vladimir Putin said on Friday he was unfazed by President-elect Donald Trump’s plans to boost the U.S. nuclear arsenal, praising Trump for being in touch with U.S. public opinion while branding the Democrats sore election losers.
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December 24, 2016 1:51pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo. the US had already made plans to and was boosting its arsenal .
  
  It’s going to be interesting when the Iran Nuclear deal comes up as both China and Russia are signatories and support it .Especially with this Mad Dog at the helm,
  
  http://www.vox.com/world/2016/12/1/13718282/pentagon-jim-mad-dog-mattis-trump-iran-hawk-russia-secretary-of-defense-general
  
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  December 24, 2016 3:57pm
  - pentwig
    
    idiot daffy
    the voters of democratic USA disagree with you
    get over it
    
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    December 24, 2016 8:01pm
Nostradamus

On Christmas Eve the NZ Herald focuses on the big issues:

What life with a micropenis is really like

A man with a one-inch-long “micropenis” said his one sexual encounter 12 years ago was so humiliating that he has not pursued a relationship since. The experience with a woman, who laughed during sex, left him so emotionally scarred that he has not dared to try again.

Hmmm…
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December 24, 2016 2:36pm
- Reid
  
  Yes but it’s our fault you see for not understanding how terrifically compelling that really truly is. It’s probably because we’re white I imagine they’d be thinking after studying the disappointing page visit count and since some of us are almost certainly male a lot of us would definitely be homophobic too, they’d be factoring into their computer modelling, before it spits out yet another set of compellerance ratings on various stories for consideration in the next edition.
  
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  December 24, 2016 2:48pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Indeed Reid. The “most Read” sidebar on the NZ Herald website is extraordinary:
    
    1 Sam Wallace quits TV for new radio breakfast show on The Hits
    2 The mystery of Tiffany Trump – Donald Trump’s youngest daughter
    3 Star Wars star Carrie Fisher suffers massive heart attack on international flight
    4 Young $44 million Lotto winners reveal their Christmas plans
    5 NZTA predicts heavy traffic for southbound and northbound travellers
    
    A terrible effort for what was once a newspaper of record…
    
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    December 24, 2016 2:52pm
- Inandout
  
  25mm sounds a little better than one inch.
  
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  December 24, 2016 3:47pm
- pentwig
  
  calling daffy
  daffy, daffy
  daffy, daffy
  are you there?
  
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  December 24, 2016 8:03pm
Stars And Stripes

Second body washes up on Muriwai beach
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/second-body-washes-up-on-muriwai-beach/ar-BBxvpQ7?li=BBv6TfA&ocid=spartandhp

Who needs to buy a beast for Xmas at Muriwai when fresh meat is being delivered daily.
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December 24, 2016 3:45pm
Manolo

Less than thirty days left of Trump vs Obama:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/let-it-be-an-arms-race-trump-says-1482507844

Mr. Trump has launched a series of challenges to President Barack Obama’s policies on nuclear weapons, China and the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, setting up a rare and increasingly public confrontation between outgoing and incoming administrations.
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December 24, 2016 4:51pm
nasska

Twas The Night Before Xmas (Legal Version)

Whereas, on or about the night prior to Christmas, there did occur at a certain
improved piece of real property (hereinafter “the House”) a general lack of
stirring by all creatures therein, including, but not limited to a mouse.

A variety of foot apparel, e.g. stocking, socks, etc., had been affixed by and
around the chimney in said House in the hope and/or belief that St. Nick a/k/a/
St. Nicholas a/k/a/ Santa Claus (hereinafter “Claus”) would arrive at sometime
thereafter.

The minor residents, i.e. the children, of the aforementioned House, were
located in their individual beds and were engaged in nocturnal hallucinations,
i.e. dreams, wherein vision of confectionery treats, including, but not limited
to, candies, nuts and/or sugar plums, did dance, cavort and otherwise appear in
said dreams.

Whereupon the party of the first part (sometimes hereinafter referred to as
“I”), being the joint-owner in fee simple of the House with the parts of the
second part (hereinafter “Mamma”), and said Mamma had retired for a sustained
period of sleep. (At such time, the parties were clad in various forms of
headgear, e.g. kerchief and cap.)

Suddenly, and without prior notice or warning, there did occur upon the
unimproved real property adjacent and appurtent to said House, i.e. the lawn, a
certain disruption of unknown nature, cause and/or circumstance. The party of
the first part did immediately rush to a window in the House to investigate the
cause of such disturbance.

At that time, the party of the first part did observe, with some degree of
wonder and/or disbelief, a miniature sleigh (hereinafter the “Vehicle”) being
pulled and/or drawn very rapidly through the air by approximately eight (8)
reindeer. The driver of the Vehicle appeared to be and in fact was, the
previously referenced Claus.

Said Claus was providing specific direction, instruction and guidance to the
approximately eight (8) reindeer and specifically identified the animal
co-conspirators by name: Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donder
and Blitzen (hereinafter the “Deer”). (Upon information and belief, it is
further asserted that an additional co-conspirator named Rudolph may have been
involved.)

The party of the first part witnessed Claus, the Vehicle and the Deer
intentionally and willfully trespass upon the roofs of several residences
located adjacent to and in the vicinity of the House, and noted that the Vehicle
was heavily laden with packages, toys and other items of unknown origin or
nature. Suddenly, without prior invitation or permission, either express or
implied, the Vehicle arrived at the House, and Claus entered said House via the
chimney.

Said Claus was clad in a red fur suit, which was partially covered with residue
from the chimney, and he carried a large sack containing a portion of the
aforementioned packages, toys, and other unknown items. He was smoking what
appeared to be tobacco in a small pipe in blatant violation of local ordinances
and health regulations.

Claus did not speak, but immediately began to fill the stocking of the minor
children, which hung adjacent to the chimney, with toys and other small gifts.
(Said items did not, however, constitute “gifts” to said minor pursuant to the
applicable provisions of the U.S. Tax Code.) Upon completion of such task, Claus
touched the side of his nose and flew, rose and/or ascended up the chimney of
the House to the roof where the Vehicle and Deer waited and/or served as
“lookouts.” Claus immediately departed for an unknown destination.

However, prior to the departure of the Vehicle, Deer and Claus from said House,
the party of the first part did hear Claus state and/or exclaim: “Merry
Christmas to all and to all a good night!” Or words to that effect.
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December 24, 2016 6:31pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska started it – I’ll continue it with my out of office notification:
  
  Please accept without obligation, express or implied, these best wishes for an environmentally safe, socially responsible, low stress, non addictive, and gender neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday as practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice (but with respect for the religious or secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or for their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all) and further for a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated onset of the generally accepted calendar year (including, but not limited to, the Christian calendar, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures). The preceding wishes are extended without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishee(s).
  
  This should ensure that I don’t receive too many emails next year!
  
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  December 24, 2016 6:59pm
  - nasska
    
    As we note from above Nostra, as a lawyer, is playing it safe:
    
    …..”Please accept without obligation, express or implied, these best wishes for an environmentally safe, socially responsible, low stress, non addictive, and gender neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday as practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice (but with respect for the religious or secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or for their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all) and further for a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated onset of the generally accepted calendar year (including, but not limited to, the Christian calendar, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures). The preceding wishes are extended without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer
    platform, or sexual preference of the wishee(s). “…..
    
    Addendum:
    
    Nothing in the aforesaid shall undermine the inalienable right of any member of the legal profession to display his or her genitals on the third Tuesday of every month. 🙂
    
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    December 24, 2016 7:05pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Geez Nasska – and I thought I had everything covered – including my genitals!
      
      (An authentic photocopy of a person’s bumhole is said to be a rite of passage for young aspiring lawyers…)
      
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      December 24, 2016 7:08pm
Manolo

Sell your entire investment portfolio before is too late.
EAD’s doomsday scenario is close to fruition:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/23/us-markets.html

U.S. equities closed mostly flat on Friday ahead of the Christmas holiday, as the Dow Jones industrial average failed again to reach the psychologically important level of 20,000.
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December 24, 2016 6:55pm
Manolo

And they keep telling us this is the religion of peace:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2468916/isis-release-video-of-berlin-attacker-anis-amri-pledging-allegiance-to-terror-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi/
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December 24, 2016 7:18pm
nasska

Santa saw your Facebook pictures…..you’re getting clothes & a Bible for Christmas.
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December 24, 2016 8:24pm
BeeSting

A Nun Missionary who has spent 18+ years in the Middle east went to Syria to recuperate
a health issue between work? because it was the most peaceful place in the middle east ?

give some insights into the..

Media Lies we have been told and
What actually Happened now
Aleppo has been liberated she can speak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE6TLAFgO4Y

Nun living in Aleppo: “Muslims in Syria fear for their country without Christians”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9XYmfHHhVs
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December 24, 2016 8:48pm
Manolo

The Knights of Malta vs the Pope:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/24/knights-malta-to-pope-stay-out-our-internal-affairs.html?refresh=true

In an extraordinary rebuke of the pontiff, the group said the replacement of its grand chancellor was an “act of internal governmental administration of the Sovereign Order of Malta and consequently falls solely within its competence.”
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December 24, 2016 10:32pm
Manolo

Will our feminists protest?
She was celebrated in Washington in 2015 when the State Department honored her with its annual Women of Courage award. “She continues to fly despite threats from the Taliban and even members of her own extended family,” the first lady, Michelle Obama, said in a statement.

On Thursday, on the eve of her scheduled return to Afghanistan from a 15-month training course at Air Force bases in Texas, Florida and Arkansas, Captain Rahmani broke a sobering piece of news to her American trainers. She still wants to be a military pilot, but not under her country’s flag. This summer, she filed a petition seeking asylum in the United States, where she hopes to eventually join the Air Force.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/opinion/a-female-afghan-pilot-soars-and-gives-up.html?_r=0
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