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Manolo

The musings of an out-of-touch and embittered old man:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/bill-clinton-trump-hillary-loss-232803

President-elect Donald Trump “doesn’t know much,” former President Bill Clinton told a local newspaper earlier this month, but “one thing he does know is how to get angry, white men to vote for him.”
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December 20, 2016 8:02am
- Scott
  
  Fair comment Manolo. They still don’t get it. Like it had nothing to do with they had no economic message, nothing to help those deplorable angry white men, who used to be the party’s base! They didn’t even visit them in Wisconsin. They just abused them and wondered why they didn’t turn out and vote for them?
  
  Perhaps the white working man wanted a more aspirational message than you are deplorable, we are going to close down all coal jobs, my opponent is a horrible person and vote for me because I’m entitled and I’m a woman.
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:15am
  - stephieboy
    
    Scott , should we be concerned that Trump’s pick as National Security advisor Michael Flynn is heavily into conspiracy theories including the Clintons are into Pedophile sex rings and Obama waged a secret war on the Catholic church ?
    
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michael-flynn-conspiracy-pizzeria-trump-232227
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:34am
    - dime
      
      whatever spirit cooker
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:57am
      - stephieboy
        
        dime , another true believer pizza conpiracy theorists ?
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:01am
    - Scott
      
      Should we be concerned about Michael Flynn as security advisor? Well yes we should be concerned if we are Muslim sympathisers who want to keep NZ safe for the followers of Muhammad.
      But if we are normal people who want to keep our country safe from Islamic terrorists and believe in western democracy well we will probably feel safer in our beds at night.
      
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      December 20, 2016 9:10am
    - Rodney Randall
      
      “Political correctness forbids us to denounce radicalized Islamists, and our political opinion and academic elites dismiss out of hand the very idea of waging war against them. No wonder we’re losing. They’ve gotten a free ride.”
      Lt. General Michael T Flynn (The Field of Fight)
      
      We should be very concerned about Islamic apologists such as yourself Stephieboy.
      
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      December 20, 2016 10:16am
    - eandlbufe
      
      Trump just won again,he just cant stop winning can he now. More tissues for the unbelievers and the whiners they keep throwing everything at trump,he just keeps on hitting them out the park. The vote counts, the electors and now the Russians. What next, the kitchen sink ????
      
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      December 20, 2016 2:14pm
    - Dave_1924
      
      Trooooollllllll – look an effin squirrel. Don’t you ever get bored not addressing the issue and then crawling up your fundamental orifice Stephie???
      
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      December 20, 2016 3:01pm
Paulus Gnome

One can only smile with the logic of a left-tard.

Barley Sober writes ‘Perhaps the party’s gun shy after being thumped in the neighbouring Mt Roskill seat just a few weeks back.’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11769892

How does labour think their aspirations would be described if there was a by-election in Helensville, East Coast Bays, etc.

The victor does not always write the history, we have the msm who will write anything for a dollar and so I imagine any pieces by them in such a hypothetical by-election would be about a valiant defeat, struggle against oppression, close call, sigh . . . .

The babble only gets worse; I could not bring myself to continue reading this from about where King chimes in with ‘The easiest solution really is for Bill English to do everyone a favour. For tens of thousands of Kiwis a change of government can’t come soon enough . . . . . ‘

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11769732

Rabid red is going full retard
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December 20, 2016 8:02am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Soper has shown his true colours in the last couple of weeks. After eight years of lambasting John Key, Soper has now placed Key on a pedestal, while going full retard on Bill English.
  
  Never go full retard Barry; especially at your age 😎
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:19am
  - kowtow
    
    Hmmm, what’s changed in the last couple of weeks? He’s probably been driven mad by ‘er indoors.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:26am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      What’s changed is that Key is no longer the PM, so Soper doesn’t have to be his natural enemy. That’s the way Soper and others in the MSM seem to view it anyway.
      
      Did the media learn NOTHING from the US elections?
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:32am
      - niggly
        
        To answer your last question the answer is “Yes”!
        
        Just like the way the media learnt nothing after the 2014 general election, also the 2011 general election and even the 2008 general election!
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:10am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        And nor did the Labour Party, except they no longer have John Key to demonise.
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:22am
    - RF
      
      Yep… as she is unemployed she stays at home baking
      
      Sober will be getting fat now.
      
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      December 20, 2016 7:46pm
- Tarquin North
  
  I reckon National should have found a larger than life character candidate – bloke of course, and have him and John Key wandering around Mount Albert having random barbecues in the lead up to the bielection. I’m not sure it would work but J.K would probably enjoy it and Little, Jacinda and co would lose their marbles and show their real personalities.
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:20am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Great idea Tarquin.
    
    JK could have put Richie McCaw on a short-term contract for that exact purpose. They could chopper in to a local park each day, fire up the barbie and put the skids under Labour 😎
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:25am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      And, being Mt Albert and not Mt Roskill, the sausages wouldn’t have to be halal meat!
      
      Although,once again being Mt Albert, with the gentrification meaning that all the inhabitants will be fashionably gluten intolerant resulting in sausages that taste like something Linda McCartney once served up.
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:55am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Agree as well, sure Nats are likely to lose but make it hard for labour, squeeze the useless bastards and drain their bank account.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:33am
Albert_Ross

Bit of a stoush on “Neighbourly” – it seems several residents of the same street have received anonymous letters saying “keep your cats out of your neighbours’ gardens, or you might not see them again”. Some of the recipients say they’ve taken the letters to the police.

Questions for the lawyers. Has a crime been committed at this point? And would a homeowner be within his legal rights to kill (humanely) a cat that’s in his garden?
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December 20, 2016 8:08am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I am sure Gareth has an opinion, not that I care about his musings, policies, brain farts . . . .
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:17am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Of course Gareth Morgan has an opinion. How else could he have possibly become an EoE (Expert on Everything)?
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:33am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    I’ve no doubt he has, but I was hoping for an opinion on the legalities, not on the politics.
    
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    December 20, 2016 10:16am
- fernglas
  
  It depends on the circumstances. If, for example, the letters are warning you about the fact that your Chinese neighbours might be wanting the cats for culinary purposes, then the Race Relations Act will come into play. If it is a threat from your neighbours about what they will do to your cat if it strays onto their property, as opposed to someone else’s cat, and you are Chinese, then it is also a matter for the Race Relations Act. If your cat is Siamese or Burmese or has a name that sounds like it might belong to one, and has taken over a garden in your area, then Phil Twyford might be the one to call. If, on the other hand, there is a cat in your garden without your consent, then rather than kill it, humanely or otherwise, you should serve it with a trespass notice. Bernie Monk should be able to help you with the wording.
  
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  December 20, 2016 11:14am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  s307 Crimes Act: It’s a crime if done ‘without lawful justification or excuse’.
  
  When exactly someone has ‘lawful justification or excuse’ is uncertain but I doubt it would include harm to a neighbour’s cat than enters your garden.
  
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  December 20, 2016 11:32am
Viking2

Manolo.
To the victor the spoils.
Clinton propped up a waste of space President so he will do all he can to justify himself.
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December 20, 2016 8:09am
nasska

Handy hint for the Festive Season:

At the office party you’re supposed to sit naked on top of the photocopier, not the shredder.
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December 20, 2016 8:12am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  A real tip for the boys I am sure!
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:18am
- Biscuit
  
  Oooo and I was only looking at a YouTube vid the other day of some guy, who didn’t factor into account security cameras, doing the glutes-on-copier thing and falling THROUGH the contraption…
  
  I remember the day back in the early 90s when our office got its first colour copier, ha – an expensive machine at the time – and the boss telling us the new house rules.
  
  ONE person (not me, sniff) was randomly selected and she (as it turned out) was allowed to copy her head.
  
  Then the boss pointed out the new security cams about the joint, ha.
  
  Never ever photocopied anything private of mine…
  
  Even though, sniff, I have been assured often enough that the bits in question are QUITE cute…
  
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  December 20, 2016 12:24pm
oldpark

Been watching the bewildered Democrat/Liebor Party losers in USA ,who still cant believe that crooked Hillary got her arse kicked by Donald Trump. Three reasons why it happened. Those who watched it happen, those who made it happen, and those who wondered what happened. Big Donald is now creaming the Electoral College votes,even though, there is still an army of bewildered losers protesting in the streets,only in America.
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December 20, 2016 8:12am
- oldpark
  
  Done Deal! Donald in a canter, bewildered can now go home and put their signs away. Thanks to all for ,making a big fool out of the cry babies Democrat/Liebor Parties.Dont forget Four more years.
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:47am
jcuk

Waiting for this thread to appear I wandered over to The Standard and had a good laugh at the comments about ‘Nats being scared, too scared to run at the by-election. I can see why some find them amusing.
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December 20, 2016 8:15am
- Morrissey
  
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  If I’d just suffered a massive landslide, I’d be shy about going up a mountain again so soon. Especially on the next-door mountain.
  
  Quittin’ John made a rational decision a day after the disaster, methinks.
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:18am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Dear Morrissey
    
    It’s far better to be a has-been than a never-was.
    
    Merry Christmas
    Quittin’ John
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:21am
    - Morrissey
      
      “Never-was”?
      
      http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b6/b6538aeefd9637389e6885312c3e94202d1c378b95a212e8d712ee7e39abb7a5.jpg
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:48am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Does the truth hurt Morrissey?
        
        For those who can’t be arsed looking at the rather juvenile meme Morrissey has linked to, it says:
        
        Take that back you little shit
        
        I resent that Morrissey. I am a big shit 😎
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:13am
  - srylands
    
    Methinks you are either taking the piss or taking drugs.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:23am
    - Morrissey
      
      The estimable Mr Farrar’s a day ahead of you there, Sir….
      
      http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/12/reading_the_reshuffle.html#comment-1840214
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:35am
- oldpark
  
  Angry Andy Little give Peters a free run in Northland. He decided not to put in a candidate,. Seems its alright when they do it. Or just par for Liebour sycophants to “conveniently” forget it. Including the failed dental nurse,and landlady of an alleged sexual pedo,Annette King.
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:35am
Morrissey

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Hillary beat him by more than two million votes. Hundreds of thousands of black voters were disenfranchised. He benefited from a grossly unfair, manipulated electoral system.
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December 20, 2016 8:16am
- G152
  
  Can you say “Electoral College” ?
  That’s how the US elects their Presidents ….
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:20am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Millions of disenfranchised white voters weren’t . . .
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:20am
- mandk
  
  Suck it up, Buttercup.
  Let it go, Snowflake.
  
  Trump won by the rules of the game.
  
  If the rules were different, he would have played differently.
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:21am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Newsflash; Morrissey hates democracy!
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:22am
  - Morrissey
    
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    http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/90/90be81268fdfdd00d61d82f54dd6922429fa09ecea962ec075cef4727e383229.jpg
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:37am
    - mandk
      
      Why don’t you quit whining, Snowflake, and tell us why Andrew Little was elected to the Labour Party, even though he had virtually no support from his peers and the party members rejected him.
      
      On second thoughts, don’t bother. It’s obvious: he won by the rules of the game.
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:44am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        That is a perfect example
        
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        December 20, 2016 6:31pm
- DoctorDoc
  
  I remember in the weeks leading up to the election you spent the whole time bitching about how awful Clinton is because she said she didn’t want murderous terrorists like Hamas to form the Palestinean government. For some reason the ultra-conservative Catholic and probable closeted homosexual Fletch felt the same way. Strange bedfellows indeed when Marxists like yourself and a bible basher like Fletch can both support Islamic extremists.
  
  Now it seems you’ve decided Clinton wasn’t so bad after all?
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:28am
- All_on_Red
  
  Number of states won:
  Trump: 30
  Clinton: 20
  _________________
  Trump: +10
  Number of electoral votes won:
  Trump: 306
  Clinton: 232
  _________________
  Trump: + 68
  
  Ave. margin of victory in winning states:
  Trump: 56%
  Clinton: 53.5%
  _________________
  Trump: + 2.5 points
  
  Popular vote total:
  Trump: 62,958,211
  Clinton: 65,818,318
  _________________
  Clinton: + 2.8 million
  Popular vote total outside California:
  Trump: 58,474,401
  Clinton: 57,064,530
  _________________
  Trump: + 1.4 million
  ‘Clintons margin of victory in California where she got 4.3 million more votes than Trump.In recent years, California has been turning into what amounts to a one-party state. Between 2008 and 2016, the number of Californian’s who registered as Democrats climbed by 1.1 million, while the number of registered Republicans dropped by almost 400,000.
  What’s more, many Republicans in the state had nobody to vote for in November.
  There were two Democrats — and zero Republicans — running to replace Sen. Barbara Boxer. There were no Republicans on the ballot for House seats in nine of California’s congressional districts.
  At the state level, six districts had no Republicans running for the state senate, and 16 districts had no Republicans running for state assembly seats.
  Plus, since Republicans knew Clinton was going to win the state — and its entire 55 electoral votes — casting a ballot for Trump was virtually meaningless, since no matter what her margin of victory, Clinton was getting all 55 votes.’
  
  So Republicans didn’t bother voting- that or most of them have left for Texas!
  http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/its-official-clintons-popular-vote-win-came-entirely-from-california/
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:55am
  - stephieboy
    
    All on Red , a clever sleight of hand piece of trickery . So Hillary never really won the over all poular vote ?
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:05am
    - Dave_1924
      
      Ah Stephanie… is comprehension not your strong suit? Have you been unable to follow the simple way a federation of states chooses its leader?
      
      I suggest you go and research the election process.
      
      Then come back to us all with a short 500 word essay explaining why the nationwide popular vote in the US Presidential election system is of no import. Explain why it is a red herring, irrelevant and a crunch for whinging, whining, left wing, keyboard social justice warriors who want to change the rules of the game they signed up to….. when they lose…
      
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      December 20, 2016 3:15pm
    - pentwig
      
      daffy
      your comments show your intelligence.
      none.
      go troll elsewhere.
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:07pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Yes, an electoral system that has been arround since the ’80’s. The 1780’s.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:44am
Jack5

More Western madness.

A Danish woman, ethnically Kurdish, who fought with the Kurds against ISIS, has been arrested and faces prison since she has returned to Denmark. Meanwhile, the Scandinavian country runs a scheme to re-integrate returning ISIS terrorists.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/danish-woman-who-fought-against-isis-faces-jail-sentence
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December 20, 2016 8:16am
Jack5

Another setback for the free-Scott-Watson mob.

The picture supposedly of murder victim Olivia Hope after her disappearance proves to be a photograph of someone-else.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11769914
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December 20, 2016 8:18am
- stephieboy
  
  Jack 5 , at least you are willing to admit that there are Muslims like Joanna Palani fighting ISIS.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:08am
Paulus

I saw a copy of an NZME paper this morning over coffee.
What are we to expect a full page article called “Closing the Gap” from none other than the failed UK Labour MP Bryan Gould. Was that not a Lange/Clark rhetoric ?
I understand he now has a regular entertainment page each week.
He was a failure in the UK and was a failure at the Clark arranged sinecure at the so called Margaret Wilson University – Waikato.
A right pair of failures – and they get some mugs to pay for their trash.
No wonder nobody will give Gould a job – why would you bother with the 1960’s man.
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December 20, 2016 8:24am
kowtow

“Secular” Turkey . One man represents the aspirations of 70 million.

He also shouted in Arabic: “We are the one who pledged allegiance to Muhammad, to wage jihad.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-wounded-in-ankara-shooting-attack

Remember , the EU elites want these people as members.
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December 20, 2016 8:24am
- stephieboy
  
  kowtow, the EU elites migh take comfort that the Jihadist doesn’t appear speak Turkish .
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:28am
  - Jack5
    
    A Turkish policeman who doesn’t speak Turkish?
    
    Perhaps he was originally a Stephiestani border crasher.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:33am
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack5 , I thought the official language of Turkey was not Arabic ?
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:45am
      - fernglas
        
        He apparently addressed the Ambassador in Russian, before using Arabic. He is Turkish. Go figure.
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:49am
      - Jack5
        
        As in Stephiestan, Arabic is a common second language in Turkey, thanks largely of course, to Arabic’s use in the Islamic religion.
        
        http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/arabic-to-be-offered-as-second-language-in-turkish-elementary-schools-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=90244&NewsCatID=341
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:03am
      - pentwig
        
        idiot daffy
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:09pm
    - kowtow
      
      fernglas
      
      A Turkish policeman who speaks Russian, Arabic and presumably Turkish…….
      
      …….clearly not terrorism. The MSM and other Islamic apologists are constantly telling us that these people are poor and uneducated……
      
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      December 20, 2016 10:35am
- Rich Prick
  
  Let me guess, just more workplace violence?
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:48am
Happychappy

How creditable are Labour and Annette King when calling Bill English gutless and running scared.Well Annette might like to look at who chose to leave Parliament and a sinking Labour ship,not Bill Enlish or National no it was two ex Leaders of your Party that created By Elections so maybe those words should be attributed to your selfish self serving MP’s that that caused this situation leading to a By Election.National are the Government and they call the shots of when a By Election or General Election will take place not Labour or the Union.For your word about Bill English being gutless I myself think it is clever Politic’s to take the air out of Labour’s sails and does not give them time or a platform to crow about policy or the result. This also makes Labour spend precious dollar that their Party does not have,also how can you criticize a Government that has several current MP’s leaving or asked to retire but none pulling the plug to cause a By Election something that you and your Leader seem to forget. This will no doubt be another reason you will lose the next General Election because you always seem to want to play the player instead of playing the ball.
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December 20, 2016 8:25am
- MCos
  
  Are you suggesting that Shearer is gutless for taking up a position with the UN in South Sudan?
  Are you suggesting that Goff is gutless for standing for Mayor of Auckland? Of course he could have done both jobs. There is precedent as I recall.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:12am
- Paulus
  
  What are the Greens to do ?
  The American Genter has said she would like a crack at Fish Shop girl.
  Actually Genter has better teeth, looks better, and has a Master’s degree.
  What about the MOU – does this stand ?
  Or will Angry shit on the party ?
  Understand the Greens have a good deal of election money which the Union Green do not.
  But the Media Party will cheer for Jacinta.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:18am
  - RF
    
    Gender is more eye candy than porcelain chops. She will get my vote….
    
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    December 20, 2016 7:53pm
Jack5

Plenty of bones to gnaw on today, guys and gals.

Rodney Hide’s mate, Hendo – Christchurch property developer David Henderson, will be free from bankruptcy in a few weeks.

Henderson, who’s recovered from bankruptcy before, will be keen to get back into business, but he might have trouble exercising what the judge called his “significant entrepreneurial skills” under conditions imposed on him.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/87743790/dave-hendersons-bankruptcy-lifted-but-supervision-remains
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December 20, 2016 8:26am
Morrissey

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Rodney Perk-Taker Hide?!??

Del-Boy sums him up perfectly here, especially in the segment beginning at 0:07 when he imitates a cigar-smoking John Banks…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahcuPHVz6aM
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December 20, 2016 8:41am
Chuck Bird

I am surprised no one has posted about this excellent article by Alan Duff.

Alan Duff: Aleppo – it’s not our problem

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11769763
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December 20, 2016 8:42am
- stephieboy
  
  Since when have “Liberals ” told Alan Duff what to think ?
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:17am
  - pentwig
    
    certainly you daffy don’t have the intelligence
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:12pm
- Inandout
  
  The Trump Effect seems to be spreading. Good on you Duff, on this particular subject anyway. There was a time the MSM would have censored or rejected such an article. The Dominion culled Michael Bassett because his views were too right wing.
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:17am
Simon

A muslim in a suit. The world is in shock

Muslim in a suit. Was this a clever disguise or was he racist against other Muslims?
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December 20, 2016 8:48am
- MCos
  
  I’m in shock at your blithering ignorance.
  Or was that a pathetic attempt at a sarcasm?
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:15am
- rangitoto
  
  Looked like he had a good tailor anyway.
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:02am
Morrissey

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Nope. He still hasn’t written a readable sentence, or uttered an intelligent word, since Once Were Warriors.
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December 20, 2016 8:50am
- Awww C-mon
  
  bwahahaha
  
  From Urban Dictionary
  
  TOP DEFINITION
  try-hard
  A person who puts a large amount of effort into achieving a certain image, or counter-image, to the point where it is obviously contrived. Rather than achieving an image through genuine personality, the try-hard consciously attempts to fit a certain style through deliberate imitation, forced style, or scripted behavior. That is to say, he/she is trying hard to create an image.
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:54am
- Kimbo
  
  Nope. He still hasn’t written a readable sentence, or uttered an intelligent word, since Once Were Warriors.
  
  Sounds like the “tall poppy syndrome” directed at successful NZ writers as described by Eleanor Catton. Oh, wait, Alan Duff has a different political perspective so it can’t be the same…
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:17am
VicParking

Mike Hosking another MSM expert has lined up to run down New Zealand and discourage tourists from visting our shores. If its not our “Clean Green” image or, in Mike’s case our, infrastructire the MSM are lining up with the Greens to try and take a dollar from our hard working tourist operators, and government (GST/TAX). There are a thousand good news stories out there about our country. Get out there and report on them instead of just siting behind you laptop and coffee cup rewriting press releases from the greens and left wing Academics.
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December 20, 2016 8:57am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Hosking is just pissy because of the plebs cluttering up the road means he can’t get the Maserati out of second anymore!
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:07am
  - Pateke
    
    Smug dork driving a smug dork’s car.
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:14am
Inandout

A lone wolf smashed his lorry into Berlin Christmas market crowd. Don’t Muslims just hate our festive season.
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December 20, 2016 9:11am
- Huevon
  
  Fucking Muslims.
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:44am
  - G152
    
    Fucking Muslims.
    
    Preferably with a rifle
    
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    December 20, 2016 12:05pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Make your thoughts known to every Islamic supremacist you come across, I am.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:20pm
- Rich Prick
  
  A lone wolf with, let me guess, mental health issues. Rinse and repeat.
  
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  December 20, 2016 1:11pm
cas

With Wellington City Council announcing another 80 buildings to be re-examined, i hope all the Chase buildings are included in this list. When they were being built I remember someone telling me that they were designed to last for about 15 years and because there was so much building activity going on in the city at the time there weren’t enough building inspectors to check and see how they were cutting corners. One building had gaps between the external bricks which were filled up later with more mortar
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December 20, 2016 9:14am
- howitis
  
  Too right cas.
  The means by which Chase acquired the land was ‘dubious’
  Mysterious fires etc. Straight out of the mafia playbook.
  They glued together some crap ‘buildings’ .
  
  The building cost prices were so sharp contractors and their subcontractors had to cut corners and use substitute material in order to gain margin. =Progressive weakening.
  
  I worked in 1990 in a Chase Corpse building where the lift repair guy was there nearly every day. This should be the strongest part of the building. The repair guy said the shaft was crooked so the lift would never be right. I always took the stairs to the 4th floor This was in Symonds St, Auckland.
  Stick with pre 1975 buildings.
  
  Commercial and residential building has been so poor as compounded by leaking buildings. Allowing a broke down ginga to be Minister of Building and Construction is not exactly progress.
  Dr Fuddy Smith has presided over shonky concrete, dodgy steel etc.
  Smith is a classic case of what any Green Govt would be like: Huffing and puffing, moralising, and vacillating while **it happens.
  >>What is the Difference between Nick Smith and the Green party?
  Smith is red on the outside and green on the inside.
  Green party are green of the outside and rabid RED on the inside.
  
  It never ends…. The Ed Ministry alleges Carter Holt’s cladding sheets and systems used in 880 school buildings were inherently defective.
  It has estimated the cost of fixing leaky schools to $1.1 billion to $1.3 billion, and in 2013 launched a legal action against a number of cladding manufacturers…
  
  Are we really first world in building or kindred spirits with Bangladesh?
  
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  December 20, 2016 2:06pm
Padriv Ustoev

Russian ambassador gets Alluha Akbared in Turkey.

Interesting times.
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December 20, 2016 9:19am
Chuck Bird

I wonder if the Muslim scum that ran a truck into crown in Germany was a refugee that Merkel welcomed into Germany.
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December 20, 2016 9:20am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  He wasn’t scum. He was probably just a lone wolf truck driver, a real stand up German who was there for years.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:23am
  - Peter
    
    With mental health issues. And he was very sad about something.
    
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    December 20, 2016 10:10am
    - rangitoto
      
      I’m waiting for the call to ban trucks.
      
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      December 20, 2016 10:33am
- Inandout
  
  Nine dead so far, 50 injured. It would take just one victim to be a relative of those in power in Germany to get some action. Most Germans love the Christmas season and this must infuriate them.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:34am
  - stephieboy
    
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    Tragic as it is Germans aren’t the only ones who love Christmas ,
    
    http://minhajimages.kortechx.netdna-cdn.com/images-db/mcdf001.jpg
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:39am
    - mandk
      
      Yes, but aren’t those people just apostates who deserve to be killed?
      
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      December 20, 2016 10:41am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Stephie, why do you hate Western civilization so much?
      
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      December 20, 2016 10:42am
    - Dave_1924
      
      Stephie. Just stop and think you pratt…..
      
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      December 20, 2016 4:42pm
    - pentwig
      
      sicko!!
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:17pm
- rangitoto
  
  It’s Merkel’s Christmas gift to Germany. A good dose of lone wolves.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:57am
- EAD
  
  This will be soon be denounced as ‘fake news’ by Merkel, and those who have reported it sent to jail for five years. All and any reports of any negative aspects of the ‘Enrichment’ are henceforth deemed to be ‘fake news’, and will be punished in accordance with our recent legislation, whose purpose is to outlaw all news that has not been given our sanction as being ‘official’, or ‘acceptable’ news (code for ‘official fake news’). Goyim beware!
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:07am
  - mandk
    
    You really are scum, EAD.
    You just can’t resist a veiled dig at the Jews, can you?
    
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    December 20, 2016 10:43am
  - EAD
    
    Errrrrrrrr how mandk?
    
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    December 20, 2016 11:17am
    - mandk
      
      You’re being disingenuous, mein standartenfuhrer.
      
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      December 20, 2016 12:21pm
      - mikenmild
        
        He had me with ‘Goyim’.
        
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        December 20, 2016 1:59pm
Keeping Stock

Morrissey’s 1000th comment is imminent. Any guesses as to what it will be about, or whether he’ll attach another juvenile picture to it?
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December 20, 2016 9:24am
- Awww C-mon
  
  I am going to put $5 on it being a sonnet, a beautifully written piece declaring love and affection for Judith Collins,
  Musical backing western style, weeping steel guitars and wailing banjo’s. Gabby and Itstricky providing back up vocals
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:46am
  - Morrissey
    
    As several of you have noted, this writer (i.e., moi) is on the verge of a milestone: yes, I’m about to become a “made guy” by posting up my ONE THOUSANDTH MESSAGE on Mr Farrar’s renowned organ.
    
    To mark the occasion, I’ve decided to compose a playscript dramatising the rather pathetic relationship of a few rather pathetic, and nasty to boot, creatures from one of our sister blogs. (No, I’m not going to say any more—you’ll have to wait and see.)
    
    Since this looks like being such a momentous occasion, I’ve decided to throw open the door of opportunity to my Kiwiblog friends and colleagues who may want to get involved. Our friend “Keeping Stock” has suggested I attach another juvenile picture, so yes, I will do just that. Thanks for the idea, KS.
    
    Another pal, “Awww C-mon” makes several requests:
    
    I am going to put $5 on it being a sonnet, a beautifully written piece declaring love and affection for Judith Collins,
    
    Okay, there’ll be a sonnet in it. Or at least someone trying to compose one. To Judith Collins. Got it!
    
    Musical backing western style, weeping steel guitars and wailing banjo’s.
    
    Love that stuff. It’s going in too!
    
    Gabby and Itstricky providing back up vocals
    
    No problem, Awww C-mon. Okay with you, Gabby and Tricky?
    
    ANY MORE REQUESTS, FELLAS? Be quick, ‘cos I’m going to press with mensaje número mil tomorrow or the next day at the latest.
    
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    December 20, 2016 12:30pm
    - Kimbo
      
      ANY MORE REQUESTS, FELLAS?
      
      Just go light on those adverbs 😉
      
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      December 20, 2016 12:33pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      ANY MORE REQUESTS, FELLAS?
      
      Yeah — f**k off.
      
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      December 20, 2016 4:32pm
- stigie
  
  KS, his 1000th comment will have 30 d0wnticks regardless of any juvenile pictures..?
  
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  December 20, 2016 11:19am
- pentwig
  
  Aww,
  I was waiting for daffy to send us pics from his favourite Mt Roskill cafe,
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  December 20, 2016 8:23pm
Captain Mainwaring

It’s a mystery to me why Morrissey is so vehemently against the most successful Government we’ve had since WW2. I hope he gets something in his Xmas stocking to cheer him up.
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December 20, 2016 9:27am
- Biscuit
  
  Indeed, Captain Mainwaring…
  
  The Key-led Government have been quite remarkable in steering the country safely (economically, I mean) through several national and international disasters and had demonstrably improved things from when they took over in just about every relevant index.
  
  Morrissey would be in near-orgasmic delight if a party/parties on the Left had achieved similar results!
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:40am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    He would indeed but we won’t get to witness it because such parties are incompetent.
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:45am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      and in opposition!
      
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      December 20, 2016 9:54am
Rich Prick

Well, all of the snowflakes’ protestations have produced a faithless voter. In Maine. For Bernie over Hillary. LOL, well done boys and girls. My 16 in GA have delivered the goods. USA! USA!
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December 20, 2016 10:17am
- Rich Prick
  
  Link: https://www.facebook.com/davidbright.us/posts/1852051155071056
  
  It’s not hard to have some sympathy for they guy after what the DNC did to Bernie.
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:24am
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘Washington electors vote for Powell, Faith Spotted Eagle
  Per Fox News’ Robert Shaffer
  Hillary Clinton has only received 8 of the 12 electoral votes in Washington State. The unfaithful electors voted for former Republican Secretary of State Colin Powell, while one voted for Faith Spotted Eagle — a native American activist.
  This makes the current tally:
  256 Trump
  143 Clinton
  
  3 Powell
  1 Faith Spotted Eagle
  Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman said she will work with the state attorney general and charge four unfaithful electors with a violation of Washington state civil law. The fine is up to $1000.’
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:32am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Wow, liberal Washington too. Never underestimate just how hated Hillary is.
    
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    December 20, 2016 10:34am
  - rangitoto
    
    Interesting that they can vote for people who weren’t candidates.
    
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    December 20, 2016 10:39am
rangitoto

Obama goes on a pardon spree.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/19/obama-announces-record-wave-pardons-commutations.html
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December 20, 2016 10:21am
Scott

Hasn’t Obama done enough? He now goes on a record setting pardoning spree. More pardons than any other president. For cough cough drug dealers??
Is he the worst POTUS ever?
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December 20, 2016 10:43am
- Rich Prick
  
  Yes.
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:47am
- howitis
  
  Its the white half that made him do it.
  Much white guilt in that half!
  
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  December 20, 2016 1:00pm
kowtow

Muslims in Europe have wanted to hit the Christmas markets for a long time. Thwarted to date by security services .

Berlin 2016 , have they finally succeeded?
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December 20, 2016 10:51am
simpleton1

A hit in a “prayer” room, Zurich, Switzerland there seems like it is violence in a “mosque”, 3 shot.

Would it be those Swiss citizens with legal guns?.

So the odds are; Christians? Bhuddists? lone wolf? or the as so often muslims are victims, looks like that and as per usual, is it by other very faithfull “muslims?” emulating their perfect leader, Mohammad.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-swiss-shooting-idUSKBN1481X0

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/people-hurt-shooting-zurich-islamic-centre-161219174024621.html
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December 20, 2016 11:14am
- Inandout
  
  Now wouldn’t it be ironic if the Swiss gunman was a Christian migrant who was avenging what happened to his kind in the Middle East? Tit-for-tat attacks on mosques are inevitable.
  
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  December 20, 2016 11:26am
  - simpleton1
    
    It would be more than possible and be ironic, if a Cretian being a bit upset.
    http://greece.greekreporter.com/2016/12/18/vandals-on-the-island-of-crete-set-church-on-fire-write-allah-is-great/
    
    There seems to be plenty of cause, Zoroastrians, Yhaziddees? Copts, Hndus, etc.
    
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    December 20, 2016 11:38am
  - simpleton1
    
    Hndu* = Hindus.
    Of course not to forget that many other muslims may have cause, and even a duty to deal with apostates, like a true follower, looking at Mohammad’s actions and words.
    
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    December 20, 2016 11:48am
EAD

The symbolism of the Bus massacre makes me indescribably angry. Rosy cheeked, blonde, German families out in the midwinter cold celebrating their millenia old traditions when some subhuman third world psychopath, who has absolutely no business being among such good people, kills and mutilates dozens of them out of blind hatred.

Just watch the cucking commence. This has nothing to with Islam. The killer was mentally ill. He wasn’t a real Muslim. The real thing we have to fear is a rise in Islamophobia. I see the BBC are questioning wheth it is terrorism or just an accident. As common as this shit now is, I am incandescent with rage over this one.

It’s not even getting the full breaking news wall to wall coverage. They’re going to try to memory hole this one as quickly as possible….

Look over there – a white supremacist racist!
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December 20, 2016 11:20am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  One wonders of the reaction if such an act was perpetuated at Mecca during Ramadan or during the Haj
  
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  December 20, 2016 12:00pm
- Albert_Ross
  
  Sorry, but it is actually true that we do not yet have proof that this was an Islamic terrorist attack. The BBC would be wrong to report it as such, before they have confirmation.
  
  Certainly, it looks like a deliberate act rather than an accident – the BBC quote eyewitnesses to that effect. Certainly, it looks like Islamic terror – and the BBC acknowledges this, by linking it to attacks by Islamic militants in Germany and to the similar event in France in July.
  
  What more do you actually want the BBC to say, before we have confirmation of the identify of the driver?
  
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  December 20, 2016 12:26pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Afghan refugee.
    
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    December 20, 2016 2:43pm
- mikenmild
  
  Rosy cheeked, blonde, German families
  
  It’s always a concern when the War on Terror claims the lives of such attractive people instead of the Middle East folks you despise…
  
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  December 20, 2016 1:55pm
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD , not all Germans conform to your ‘Rosy cheeked , blonde , German familes ‘ as your master Adolf Hitler and a great many in the Nazi Heirachy amply tesify .
    
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    December 20, 2016 2:07pm
    - pentwig
      
      fuckwit.
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:28pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Pentwit , you like EAD another National Socialist ?
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:33pm
starboard

Trump wins College votes !!!…….He’s the man! The big cheese ! Numero uno ! Go Trumpy POTUS !

“USA” “USA” “USA”
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December 20, 2016 11:33am
- Inandout
  
  Trump’s da man!!
  
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  December 20, 2016 11:55am
- Rich Prick
  
  Expect riots. That’s all the left have left.
  
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  December 20, 2016 12:00pm
Manolo

Merkel’s days in office ought to be numbered.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html
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December 20, 2016 11:37am
Fletch

Wow. Photo of the gunman who shot dead the Russian ambassador to Turkey, before he himself is shot dead.

https://www.facebook.com/APImages/photos/a.10150155125758865.285772.70610223864/10154295988768865/?type=3&theater
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December 20, 2016 11:41am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  It would have been better to capture him alive, if possible.
  
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  December 20, 2016 1:27pm
Manolo

Our multiculturalist can now swallow this big rat:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/electoral-college-vote-seals-trump-white-house-victory-n698026

The Electoral College formalized Donald Trump’s election victory on Monday despite protests around the country to encourage GOP electors to abandon the Republican.

The president-elect easily racked up the 270 electoral votes needed to send him to the White House. Interest in the normally mundane voting process spiked this year as opposition to Trump continues to fester, fueled by Clinton’s success in capturing more than 2.6 million more votes than her Republican opponent.
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December 20, 2016 11:42am
- rangitoto
  
  Well Hillary did have more faithless electors who went against her than those going against Trump. Does that count for anything? I was wondering if there was going to be an upset in favour of Faith Spotted Eagle.
  
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  December 20, 2016 12:49pm
starboard

Steffybot/s unusually quiet….
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December 20, 2016 11:45am
- simpleton1
  
  At least he would not be worried about being in a Christmas market crowd, so probably out shopping for presents. After all that has never happened in NZ.
  
  He could be seeking true peace, being in a “prayer room” like in Zurich?
  
  Or is summer heat getting to him so putting out fires, like in a church on Crete, appreciating the new graffiti art work on the wall.
  
  Or going to an art gallery like the Russian ambassador, as he would have many like minded friends
  
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  December 20, 2016 11:58am
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘so probably out shopping for presents.’
    I think we all know there are other reasons he goes to the Mall…
    
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    December 20, 2016 12:45pm
- stephieboy
  
  starbaord , right here . You being following Pizzagate and Michael Flynn and his junior over this kind of conspiracy twaddle ?
  
  “Michael Flynn Jr Sacked From Trump Transition Team for ‘Pizzagate’ Tweets”
  
  http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/07/michael-flynn-jr-fired-trump-transition-pizzagate-tweets.html
  
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  December 20, 2016 2:10pm
  - starboard
    
    Sort ya grammar and spelling out bot before you try and converse with me.
    
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    December 20, 2016 2:42pm
  - pentwig
    
    Idiot. try comprehension.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:33pm
DifferentPerspective

Religious tolerance of diversity – the Muslim version

Run a truck through a Christmas Market in Berlin – 9 people die of cultural enrichment.

More great Xmas advertising to support the Greens plea to increase the influx of carries of the Islam death cult – a Pakistani (sorry Das Welt – FU it wasn’t a Chechin as you so desperately hoped).

Only a few days after the Greens virtue-signalled about increasing our refugee intake in the light of Aleppo – they show once again why their disconnect from Planet Earth is psychotically dangerous. Sadly, National’s jump to the Left this week means they’ll probably up the refugee quota before the election.
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December 20, 2016 12:24pm
- Manolo
  
  Let us hope the German people kick ruinous Mamma Merkel out of office next year. She has wrecked Germany.
  
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  December 20, 2016 12:37pm
- Jack5
  
  TV1 news tonight has graphic scenes of the market terrorism but strains and succeeds in avoiding using the words “Muslim” or “Islam”.
  
  Similarly with their report of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey.
  
  What a bunch of PC Leftist hacks in the TVNZ news room.
  
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  December 20, 2016 6:10pm
Fletch

Again – New Zealand must be the only country in the world where the newsreaders go on holiday and there is no Midday News. Aren’t there up-and-coming news trainees that could read it? I am sure there are. Unbelievable.
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December 20, 2016 12:31pm
- starboard
  
  The mid-day ‘ news ‘ is shite anyway, just a gap filler between the ads.
  
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  December 20, 2016 2:09pm
  - Pateke
    
    That’s strange I thought the midday news was sunni not shite
    
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    December 20, 2016 2:57pm
  - jcuk
    
    Shush! they are not ads but promos ….. Good for telling us what not to listen to ….then there is the one which tells us ‘everybody’ is listening to it … personally I listen to National not concert after the midday news…. This way up … one program I make an effort to listen to .. especially that one following the Kaikoura quake.
    
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    December 20, 2016 6:17pm
- jcuk
  
  Yes of course there is the mumblemumble squad that does continuity.
  
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  December 20, 2016 6:11pm
- Jack5
  
  Yep Fletch…
  
  These PC Leftists behave like the ruling British in colonial India.
  
  Come India’s peak hot weather unpleasantness, the colonialists’ families packed up and moved to the cool and beautiful holiday resorts in the mountains.
  
  The seasonal desertion of our lead TV media-ocrities leaves the news desks in the unchecked control of still-further-Leftists who usually get to play only at weekends.
  
  Just watch the blatant further-Left shift in TVNZ news over the holidays.
  
  While their chardonnay socialist seniors chatter, sip, and dip at the beaches and lakes, the Second String shapes the news broadcasts.
  
  On Radio Labour, meanwhile, whole programmes are axed and replaced by jibberers, pop music and talkback. This is at what ought to be a time of high demand for radio listeners.
  
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  December 20, 2016 7:27pm
Fletch

Paul Joseph Watson –

Russian Ambassador Shot Dead: What They’re NOT Telling You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVlBZml7k_U
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December 20, 2016 1:14pm
- rangitoto
  
  Erdogan needs to watch his back now that he has betrayed the Salafists.
  
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  December 20, 2016 1:39pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , what does the Prince of Paranoia Alex Jones sidekick tell us waht we don’t know ?
  
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  December 20, 2016 2:15pm
  - pentwig
    
    can’t you work it out daffy?
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:01pm
Manolo

Integration into German society will be a breeze, will it not?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4048650/Muslim-girl-refuses-shake-German-president-s-hand-visits-school-praise-integrating-migrants-well.html

A Muslim girl refused to shake the hand of the German president despite him visiting her school to praise students for integrating migrants so well.

Footage has emerged of the visit of Joachim Gauck to the Theodor Heuss School in Offenbach at the end of last month.
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December 20, 2016 1:19pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  I will say one thing for the girl: she is sincere and is utterly uncompromising and devoted to her religion.
  What sort of a mother to her many sons in the future will she likely be?
  
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  December 20, 2016 1:29pm
Manolo

True to form. A leopard never….
http://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-heads-to-golf-course-after-receiving-reports-on-berlin-attack-and-russian-ambassador-death/

With the dual breaking news events surrounding potential terrorism and a foreign diplomat being shot to death, White House pool reports showed that President Barack Obama headed to a country club in Hawaii near his rental house, where he is vacationing.
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December 20, 2016 1:26pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, so Obama needs to be 24/7 in Washington DC with his National Security Advsiors ?
  
  Trump of course will never be held to such exacting standards with his rounds of golf ?
  
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  December 20, 2016 1:49pm
  - pentwig
    
    idiot
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:02pm
Fletch

Hehe, Trump easily won the Electoral College vote, while Washington electors only gave 8 out of 12 votes to Hillary 😆 SMACKDOWN.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/four-washington-electors-break-ranks-and-dont-vote-for-clinton/
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December 20, 2016 1:34pm
- Kimbo
  
  I believe the term is “faithless elector”, Um, and when Nancy Pelosi’s daughter was disingenuously trying to get electors who should have been voting for Trump to do likewise, it was rightly viewed as a constitutional outrage.
  
  Are you always so lacking in…objectivity.
  
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  December 20, 2016 1:42pm
  - Fletch
    
    Are you always so lacking in…objectivity.
    
    In what way? In a week when Hollywood has-beens call upon electors to vote for someone other than Trump – they actually call electors out by name in some of these videos.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek
    
    I think it is the political and Hollywood elites who lack objectivity. They just can’t stand the idea of Trump being president. It goes against everything they believe with every fibre of their being.
    
    If there’s anything this election has done, it has ripped the mask from Hollywood. I knew they were biased, I just didn’t realize how much.
    
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    December 20, 2016 1:48pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Fletch, again outline why you think you are personally objective and impartial in all political affairs cf with those Hollywood Elites ?
      
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      December 20, 2016 1:51pm
      - Fletch
        
        Who says I’m impartial? LOL. I don’t pretend to be impartial. I never said I was. I’m not a judge. I prefer Trump over Clinton. So what? None of those Hollywood libs are impartial either. I’m not allowed to be glad that Hillary got beat?
        
        Well, I am. So there.
        
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        December 20, 2016 1:55pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Fletch , you were asked ,’
        
        “Are you always so lacking in…objectivity.”
        
        Your response ,
        
        In what way .. ?”
        
        But a silly question with an equally silly response don’t you think ?
        
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        December 20, 2016 2:18pm
      - pentwig
        
        what makes you think you do daffy?
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:03pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Hollywood Libs don’t have a designated constitutional authority. Electors do. Is how banana republics operate.
      
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      December 20, 2016 2:01pm
      - Fletch
        
        Oh, well, sure. I posted the link because I thought it was funny that libs were going to great extremes to force Republican electors to change their minds (letters, emails, phone calls, death threats), and then it is Demo electors who change their vote.
        
        I didn’t post because I thought electors should change their votes. Of course they shouldn’t. And those 4 votes made no difference to the outcome.
        
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        December 20, 2016 2:03pm
      - rangitoto
        
        You are missing the point Kimbo.
        
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        December 20, 2016 2:08pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Fletch , in what way were Hollywoood Libs trying to force and threaten Republican supporters /voters ?
        
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        December 20, 2016 2:20pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ rangitoto
        
        You are missing the point Kimbo.
        
        Indeed. And after Fletch’s explanation I can but conclude the two of you are easily amused! 😉
        
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        December 20, 2016 2:22pm
      - Fletch
        
        I am not that easily amused, but it is amusing, isn’t it? I think so. You can’t see the irony? 🙂
        
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        December 20, 2016 6:58pm
Manolo

Toeing or not the PC line:
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article121851543.html

Trump’s 2015 holiday card said “Merry Christmas + Happy Holidays,” according to Yahoo. Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner is Jewish, and his daughter Ivanka converted to Judiasm before marrying Kushner. Both are influential advisers of the president-elect.

President Barack Obama’s holiday greeting card never said “Merry Christmas,” according to the Washington Times, which reports this year’s version said “Happy holidays” and said “we wish you and your loved ones a joyous holiday season and wonderful new year.”
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December 20, 2016 3:23pm
Manolo

Merkel should be ousted immediately:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049442/Terror-attack-fears-lorry-ploughs-Christmas-market-Berlin-leaving-two-people-dead.html

A refugee is thought to have been behind the wheel of a 25-tonne articulated lorry which mowed down and killed 12 people – and injured 48 others – as it sped at 40mph through a busy Christmas market in Berlin.

The vehicle laden with steel cargo mounted the pavement at 7pm, before tearing through stalls and shoppers on Breitscheidplatz Square, outside the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church in the German capital’s main shopping area.

The man at the wheel – who according to German newspaper Berliner used different aliases, was of Afghan heritage and had arrived in Germany in February – fled the scene before being arrested at a nearby zoo.

Police confirmed the original driver, who was transporting steel beams from Poland to Germany, was a Polish national who was found dead in the lorry’s cabin. It is thought he was hijacked.

Germany’s interior minister, Thomas de Maizière, said: “I do not want to use the word the terrorism yet. But many things point in that direction.”
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December 20, 2016 3:29pm
- Inandout
  
  I am sure ZB said the terrorist was Polish; maybe I misheard.
  
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  December 20, 2016 3:34pm
  - mandk
    
    The “passenger” in the truck is being reported as Polish. Presumably he had been hijacked.
    
    I would hazard a guess that he was already dead when the truck ploughed into the crowd.
    
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    December 20, 2016 3:47pm
Kabull

Will it never end? Not even God can save us ….

“A NATIVITY scene has been ‘banned’ in case it offends one of the FOUR Muslims living in a Belgian town. Town chiefs allegedly refused to include a traditional festive display in Holsbeek, Belgium over fears it could upset a member of the minuscule Muslim population.
Traditionally locals put a Christmas tree and a model of baby Jesus in a manger in the centre of the town.
But locals were outraged after politicians decided it would offend.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/745253/Nativity-scene-removed-fears-offend-Muslims-Belgium-Holsbeek-Christmas
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December 20, 2016 3:42pm
mandk

President-Elect Trump dares to speak the truth:

“Our hearts and prayers are with the loved ones of the victims of today’s horrifying terror attack in Berlin. Innocent civilians were murdered in the streets as they prepared to celebrate the Christmas holiday.

Isis and other Islamist terrorists continually slaughter Christians in their communities and places of worship as part of their global jihad.

These terrorists and their regional and worldwide networks must be eradicated from the face of the earth, a mission we will carry out with all freedom-loving partners.”
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December 20, 2016 3:44pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  A president who dares speak the truth?!
  
  (It has been a long time coming.)
  
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  December 20, 2016 4:11pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Odakyu sen , shouldn’t “Isis and other Islamist terrorists continually slaughter Christians..” be just “Islamists/ Muslims…. ?
    
    I thought Germany was much like ours more a secular state only very nominally Christian ?
    
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    December 20, 2016 5:13pm
    - mandk
      
      “Whoever is not with me, is against me.”
      
      Where do you stand, stephie?
      
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      December 20, 2016 5:40pm
    - pentwig
      
      sicko daffy. you are just sick!
      
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      December 20, 2016 9:07pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Odakyu sen , what did President Trump say the outgoing President failed to mention ?
    
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    December 20, 2016 5:23pm
    - pentwig
      
      ???
      perhaps you should enlighten us.
      
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      December 20, 2016 9:08pm
- mikenmild
  
  I’m just waiting to hear what his plan is to accomplish that mission. Oh, that’s right, it’s ‘secret’ because he doesn’t want ISIS to know how he will defeat them.
  
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  December 20, 2016 5:02pm
  - itstricky
    
    Tweet them into surrendering.
    
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    December 20, 2016 5:25pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Anything but his menacing 4am tweets…
      
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      December 20, 2016 5:39pm
- Inandout
  
  Obama’s Nice attack comments:
  
  ‘On behalf of the American people, I condemn in the strongest terms what appears to be a horrific terrorist attack in Nice, France, which killed and wounded dozens of innocent civilians. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and other loved ones of those killed, and we wish a full recovery for the many wounded. I have directed my team to be in touch with French officials, and we have offered any assistance that they may need to investigate this attack and bring those responsible to justice. We stand in solidarity and partnership with France, our oldest ally, as they respond to and recover from this attack.
  
  On this Bastille Day, we are reminded of the extraordinary resilience and democratic values that have made France an inspiration to the entire world, and we know that the character of the French Republic will endure long after this devastating and tragic loss of life’.
  
  Gypsies may have as well done this.
  
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  December 20, 2016 7:06pm
Reid

Killary goes mental. I wonder what she’s doing now, now that phase 1 of the coup attempt didn’t work out, either?

Hillary Clinton’s post election celebration plans included hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of fireworks, live performances by various celebrities, such as Cher, who came believing that Hillary was going to win the election, a five-hundred-thousand-dollar special effect glass ceiling that she would break through in a dramatic display once she walked out on stage at her H.Q., among millions of dollars worth of other celebratory preparations, all paid for by the Clinton Foundation in full.

The most notable damage was located deep in the VIP room of the Clinton camp. A custom 150 inch ultra HD TV, a gift from the Saudi Arabian government, was found with a broken screen. The damage was caused by a $950,000 bottle of champagne that was believed to have been thrown at the screen by the former presidential candidate some time during the election.

Early in the morning, the custodial staff were greeted by flipped-over tables as the floors were covered with expensive food, drinks, and appetizers. Broken champagne flutes and gilded silverware were also seen scattered around the would-be party room.

The most telling sign of a massive meltdown was the cake. The pastry that had once proudly displayed the presidential seal, was violently flung against the walls in chunks. A broken topper from the cake in the shape of the white house was discovered lodged firmly into the drywall near the dessert table. – See more at: http://www.rense.com/general96/CNNreportHillary.htm#sthash.PNuz7jyF.dpuf
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December 20, 2016 4:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , why should we believe Rense when has linked to Sharkhunters.com who posted this pile of garbage
  
  http://www.sharkhunters.com/book1.htm
  
  Also seem to act as some kind of Veteran U boat club .
  
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  December 20, 2016 5:07pm
  - Manolo
    
    Why didn’t crooked Hillary address her people the night of the election after her defeat was announced? Why?
    
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    December 20, 2016 5:10pm
    - itstricky
      
      Who knows, but seeing as rense.com has an entire section on Pizzagate and a statement that Pizzagate is a “giant leap forward for investigative journalism” I would tend to believe it wasn’t because she was hurling million dollar champers around the room.
      
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      December 20, 2016 5:22pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Reid’s a true believer in any bullshit, of course.
        
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        December 20, 2016 5:41pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo, are you a Pizzagate true beleiver ?
      
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      December 20, 2016 5:25pm
  - pentwig
    
    please explain
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:10pm
- RichardX
  
  If you think such a story is believable you’d want to verify the facts
  It could be fake news or just propaganda
  Maybe a self proclaimed expert on propaganda would know that you can’t believe something just because it is on the internet
  So how would you check the veracity of such a story
  You couldn’t trust someone who was actually there because they would just lie. Wouldn’t they.
  Maybe you could check to see if $950,000 a bottle champagne actually exists
  So what happens when you google it?
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:09pm
  - Reid
    
    Maybe I just don’t care Tim. Maybe I just posted it for a laugh because it’s funny, because it’s what Killary does and it’s how Killary behaves, as you know.
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:22pm
    - RichardX
      
      Who is Tim?
      
      I do understand why you find Rense funny
      Nothing on it can be taken seriously
      
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      December 20, 2016 9:38pm
      - mikenmild
        
        The question is probably whether Reid is too dim to realise that Rense is complete bullshit.
        
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        December 20, 2016 10:09pm
Manolo

Taxes and “social justice”. Europe down the tubes:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/20/portugal-homes-with-sea-views-face-higher-tax-to-improve-fiscal-outlook

People buying a home in Portugal that has unspoilt sea views or faces the sun may be hit by a 20% increase in property tax, under fiercely contested fiscal changes which became law on Monday. Those with a place overlooking a cemetery or water treatment plant may enjoy a tax reduction of up to 10%.

The percentage increase or fall is at the discretion of the local council, which applies the levy, as part of changes pushed through by the Socialist government.

“It’s based on social justice,” says party spokesman Joao Galamba. “People object when someone living in a basement and someone living on the top floor with a great view each have to pay exactly the same tax.”
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December 20, 2016 5:00pm
Manolo

The scum invading Germany:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/745199/Taliban-leader-flew-Afghanistan-claim-asylum-family-Germany-Angela-Merkel

An Afghan migrant who arrived in Germany to claim asylum with his family has been revealed to be a senior member of the Taliban, police have discovered.
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December 20, 2016 5:30pm
- Jack5
  
  The Taliban guy was probably assessed and passed for German setttlement by the same UN people who are supposedly checking and selecting NZ’s refugees from the Middle East – all Muslim, of course.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:20pm
Awww C-mon

Another dead baby?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11770516

I’d love to think I’m jumping the gun and there will be a reasonable explanation to this tragic event.
If it is another murdered baby then it’s about time we considered doing the job the courts and police won’t.
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December 20, 2016 5:45pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  That sounds a bit keyboard warrior sorry.
  
  Dont know exactly what I mean either TBH… but FFS this is got to stop
  
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  December 20, 2016 6:00pm
- Reid
  
  “doing the job the courts and police won’t.”
  
  We don’t know what this case is so to ignore that but to discuss the point you raise: what might be helpful is taking the same approach criminal profilers and intelligence analysts take. Profilers build up personas which people more or less fit. Intel analysts build a picture from seemingly unrelated parts. By combining those two skill sets on coming up with types of people and situations to look for, it wouldn’t be that hard to identify these people through police and welfare worker resources.
  
  Lots of people would say that’s Orwellian which of course it is. But is it wrong to use it in this way? If so, why?
  
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  December 20, 2016 7:07pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”If so, why?”…..
    
    Because of old bogeyman & catchphrase of the leftists Reid…..’eugenics’….because this is what it’s all about. Unemployable, dumb, no-hopers breeding flat out in response to a society that rewards them for the behaviour.
    
    We don’t want a country full of kids with defective personalities because their mothers spent their pregnancies whacked out on meth or alcohol. We don’t need the offspring of solo mothers who breed for cash. We don’t need the huge expense of sorting out kids from revolving door relationships.
    
    But we get them because we’re too bloody scared of the do gooders, the “journalists” & social engineers who are ready & willing to slaughter those who object.
    
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    December 20, 2016 7:23pm
    - stigie
      
      Agree Nasska, the do gooders are easily offended, in fact offended by decent policy to help these people off the benefit…..I say fuck the lot of them !~
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:13pm
      - Reid
        
        Let’s get em.
        
        Luckily, a lot of do-gooders are also lefties, which should help us with recruiting.
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:24pm
Reid

Some initial thoughts from the Saker on the Russian ambassador.

http://thesaker.is/a-few-initial-short-thoughts-on-the-murder-of-the-russian-ambassador-to-ankara/

This gives you some idea of the guy’s thinking, bearing in mind this event is only a few hours old.
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December 20, 2016 6:03pm
EAD

An illustrated way on how to respond to the latest lone Wolf attack:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a13bf6ed6ebbe1458f9125926f61a790857b7af688a9aeac5d266403f023d84e.jpg
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December 20, 2016 6:27pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD , ” special treatment ” ( sonderbehandeln )for Germany’s immigrants and refugees , eh ?
  
  https://www.ushmm.org/m/img/73719-700×335.jpg
  
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  December 20, 2016 7:25pm
  - pentwig
    
    troll
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:12pm
Jack5

A good holiday read – Max Hastings writing in the Spectator on the coming centennial of the Bolshevik revolution.

Hastings talks of the West’s ‘useful idiots’ as well as the Red terror.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/the-centenary-of-the-russian-revolution-should-be-mourned-not-celebrated/
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December 20, 2016 7:02pm
- mikenmild
  
  Nice, but I’ll need something a little longer to read over the holidays.
  
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  December 20, 2016 7:22pm
  - Jack5
    
    That was for between a couple of your Kiwiblog posts.
    
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    December 20, 2016 7:30pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I’ve got a couple of books on the go, thanks, but I always appreciate reading suggestions.
      
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      December 20, 2016 7:44pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        a reading suggestion:
        https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/kenneth-goldsmith/wasting-time-on-the-internet/
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:43pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Thanks Maggy. Sounds like a credo for me.
        
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        December 20, 2016 10:13pm
  - nasska
    
    What you need is a career revision guide Mike. May I suggest ‘Madams: Bawds & Brothel-Keepers of London’ by Fergus Linnane. 🙂
    
    https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=0Ec7AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT61&lpg=PT61&dq=brothel+keepers+guide&source=bl&ots=MKOaPpW5lt&sig=Fo-o_ELWPpIWte9uwtp8G2MGx8A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigsqr0kYLRAhVKoJQKHd90Cck4FBDoAQgoMAM#v=onepage&q=brothel%20keepers%20guide&f=false
    
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    December 20, 2016 7:31pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Too much like work, nasska. Would you like it if the missus gave you books on animal husbandry for Xmas?
      https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cka/Diseases-Sheep-Ian-Aitken/1405134143/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482216331&sr=8-2&keywords=diseases+of+sheep
      
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      December 20, 2016 7:45pm
      - nasska
        
        Point taken mike. 🙂
        
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        December 20, 2016 7:46pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack 5 , the West’s ‘useful idiots” can also be applied to contemporary Russia,
  
  Albright: Trump fits the mold of Russia’s ‘useful idiot’
  
  Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright chided Donald Trump on Monday, saying the Republican nominee has become Vladimir Putin’s patsy.
  
  “There is a great term the Soviets used to use: ‘somebody being a useful idiot,’” Albright told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. “I think that Trump falls into that category of people that are manipulated also by the Russians and the Russians are trying to interfere in our democracy because they don’t have one themselves…”
  
  http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-russia-useful-idiot-madeleine-albright-230238
  
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  December 20, 2016 7:33pm
  - Reid
    
    So you agree with Albright when she said a million Iraqi child deaths were “worth it” stephie? Of course you do, after all, you just quoted her, which by your own standards means you now agree with every single thing she ever said or did.
    
    Only scum could believe a million child deaths are “worth it” stephie. Only vile, satanic scum could ever say something like that.
    
    Yet here you are, approvingly quoting her. Which means, as I say, by your very own standards which you use against others all the time, you must agree with what she said. So it was worth it, was it?
    
    Noted, stephie.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:15pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , when did the former Secretary of State actually say a million Iraqi deaths were “worth it “?
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:20pm
      - Reid
        
        I can’t believe you don’t know about it.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iFYaeoE3n4
        
        Sorry stephie, it’s only 500,000 children, so you’re only half as evil as before, for quoting Albright which means, by your rules that you use on everyone else here all the time, this does mean stephie, that you agree with her, so in your terms, not mine but your terms, this means you also share the guilt of what she said on that vid, which is no more nor less stephie than you impute to others here many times every single day, so wear it stephie, they’re your rules.
        
        By your rules, you think 500,000 Iraqi child deaths is “a price worth paying.”
        
        Have you told your progressive mates bout this stephie, or is this some surprise for later you’re saving up?
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:32pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Reid , thats right not 1 million as you claimed . Shortly after had this to say ,
        ‘
        “ Little effort was made to explain Saddam’s culpability, his misuse of Iraqi resources, or the fact that we were not embargoing medicine or food. I was exasperated that our TV was showing what amounted to Iraqi propaganda…I must have been crazy; I should have answered the question by reframing it and pointing out the inherent flaws in the premise behind it. Saddam Hussein could have prevented any child from suffering simply by meeting his obligations. Instead, I said the following: ‘I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it.’ As soon as I had spoken, I wished for the power to freeze time and take back those words. My reply had been a terrible mistake, hasty, clumsy, and wrong. Nothing matters more than the lives of innocent people. I had fallen into a trap and said something that I simply did not mean. That is no one’s fault but my own.”
        
        https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albrigh
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:46pm
      - Reid
        
        Don’t worry stephie, by your rules, it doesn’t matter. I’ll be sure to be telling everyone over the next few weeks about your newfound passion. I’m sure the impression will be deep. Of course you could change your tactics and I’ll test you for awhile to see if you do, but if you keep doing what you do, I will bring up this bookmarked conversation and nail you to the wall, using your own evil petard. Remember stephie, you did this to yourself, I didn’t do a thing, except called you on it. This makes you the bad guy, in case you hadn’t quite yet worked that out.
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:58pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Reid , at least Madeline Albricht fronted up and admiited it was a mistake . Can’t ever imagine Flynn , Mattis or your Comrade Putin ever doing that
        
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        December 20, 2016 10:17pm
  - pentwig
    
    clinton lost
    suck it up and swallow daffy
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:14pm
- Inandout
  
  Looking at the Spectator comments section it appears there are some bitter and twisted socialist Poms. I have encountered a few of those entrenched types when I belonged to a union. I suppose living in tiny rooms on housing estates eventually dulls the section of the brain that produces happiness.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:56pm
starboard

Wonder who this is..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/87763340/Famous-actor-facing-more-sex-charges
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December 20, 2016 7:27pm
Jack5

As China tightens up on capital exports, Chinese are finding a new foreign outlet for their cash, and it isn’t the property markets of Auckland, Sydney, and Vancouver.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-18/gone-in-60-seconds-chinese-snap-up-dollar-funds-as-yuan-tanks
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December 20, 2016 7:34pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5 , I don’t think Trump has quite grasped the fact that China is one of his country’s biggest bankers ,
  
  https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-debt-to-china-how-much-does-it-own-3306355
  
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  December 20, 2016 7:41pm
  - Reid
    
    stupidboy, it appears you know as much about Trump as you know about anything else.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:10pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid, has Trump been able to figure out that Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin are pretty good mates,
      
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-13/xi-putin-bromance-grows-in-security-bond-as-u-s-spats-escalate
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:14pm
      - Reid
        
        Yes of course he has. This is why Trump is playing to Putin. Don’t you know anything stephie? Are you a complete moron? What sort of a roaring dummy doesn’t even know Trump’s doing that? Only someone as thick as a whale omelette wouldn’t know something really incredibly basic like that, stephie.
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:18pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Reid , well Trump’s recent hotline to Taipei seems to show otherwise .
        
        PS please explain the complex code around the word Pizza ?
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:23pm
      - Reid
        
        Duh, that fits perfectly with the strategy. Don’t you understand what he’s doing? It’s obvious. Don’t you ever do any research on stuff you chose to comment on, before you comment? Don’t you do that stephie? Perhaps you should. Perhaps you should start now, stephie.
        
        P.S. Fuck off about Pizzagate until you respond to last weekend’s questions. There they are, and you haven’t answered them, so go ahead and do that, then I might answer something you ask about it.
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:26pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Reid , first of all please explain why the Trump administration have appeared to distance themselves from Pizzagate ?
        
        DUH !
        
        Which questions other than a nebulous reference to emails ?
        
        Link them please ?
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:29pm
      - Reid
        
        stupidboy pray address the Trump question and obey the entirely reasonable conditions on Pizzagate by answering my question, which is the only one on the table. Unless of course you can’t do either. Which is what I suspect.
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:44pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Reid , I’m not sure what Trump is trying to do other than offend China over his phone call to Taiwanese Premier .
        
        Elucidate for me please ?
        
        Now about that apparent complex code around the word “PIZZA ” ?
        
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        December 20, 2016 8:54pm
  - Manolo
    
    I was not aware we had such a genius living among the unwashed that inhabit Mt Roskill.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:48pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo , you surely the one to explain Pizzagate since Reid obviously cant !
      
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      December 20, 2016 8:57pm
      - pentwig
        
        give us your stupid intelligent view daffy
        oxy moron i know, but then you are a moron.
        so explain please about PIZZA
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:28pm
      - mikenmild
        
        When did you first develop feelings for stephieboy, pentwig?
        
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        December 20, 2016 9:38pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie X says of Trump, who I hadn’t mentioned in my post:
    
    I don’t think Trump has quite grasped the fact that China is one of his country’s biggest bankers.
    
    Japan is now the biggest holder of US debt securities.
    
    But, coming from the Islamosphere, Stephie X, you mightn’t grasp the truth of this saying: You owe the bank ten thousand dollars, you’ve got a problem. You owe the bank ten million, the bank’s got the problem.
    
    What would the biggest foreign debtor do to get their money back? Seize Hawaii or California? Good luck to them with that.
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:12pm
  - pentwig
    
    daffy
    i don’t think you have grasped you are an idiot and who gives a fuck what you think
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:17pm
EAD

THE BEST GIF OF ALL TIME:

https://mobile.twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/808786848764088324

Take that Milkmaid & Stephiegoy!
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December 20, 2016 7:42pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD,
  
  Nixxiom ‏@Nixxiom
  @StefanMolyneux I didn’t see a single argument in that entire .gif!
  
  @Obey_Nobody @spreadsheeticus @StefanMolyneux he just seems… damaged somehow. Like badly handled fruit.
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:08pm
  - Reid
    
    That’s because you’re you, stephie.
    
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    December 20, 2016 8:10pm
nasska

Peace on Earth & goodwill to all men…..finally! 🙂

http://thegoodlordabove.com/god-figures-bring-peace-planet-earth/
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December 20, 2016 8:01pm
Captain Mainwaring

They know this poor bloke is a male. So why the fuck do they keep calling him ‘they’?
FFS, this PC – speak crap is doing my head in.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/87797781/man-in-serious-condition-after-paragliding-accident-near-queenstown
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December 20, 2016 8:31pm
- Reid
  
  You’re just not attuned to the group Cap’n, you need just to relax, to drift away, let the truth flow and swirl all round and trust us, trust us, trust us…
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:41pm
- Gabby
  
  Who’s ‘they’?
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:52pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Looks like the ‘they’ has been replaced by ‘he’ since I posted.
  Wow, Kiwiblog is even quicker than I thought it was.
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:59pm
Manolo

Even the ultra PC BBC bows to the terrorism theory:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38375555

German police are investigating a “probable terrorist attack” after a man ploughed a lorry into a Christmas market in the heart of Berlin, killing 12 people and injuring 48.

They have detained the driver, who security sources reportedly say is an Afghan or Pakistani asylum seeker.
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December 20, 2016 8:54pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , so ?
  
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  December 20, 2016 8:55pm
  - Manolo
    
    So? One of those Muslim refugees you would love to bring to NZ murders twelve innocent people and all you can say is so? Shame on you.
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:10pm
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie asks “so”?
    
    The Greens want to open NZ’s doors to more refugees. Admitting terrorists like this is part of the risk they would expose us to.
    
    We don’t want more Muslims in New Zealand.
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:16pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack 5 , whose ” we “?
      
      Who says we admit or will terrorists ?
      
      BTW How are our fellow local Muslim superette owners responsible for the terror attack in Berlin ?
      
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      December 20, 2016 9:40pm
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie X: “We” are New Zealanders.
        
        On the other hand, Stephies, I’m not sure what you all are, but I strongly suspect some of you are foreigners who travel on foreign passports.
        
        On whose behalf does the Stephie Islamic troll team purport to speak? Stephiestan? Islam?
        
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        December 20, 2016 10:55pm
  - pentwig
    
    um daffy, so??
    
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    December 20, 2016 9:19pm
Captain Mainwaring

OK sillyboy, seems that the ‘driver’ wasn’t the first driver, who was an innocent Polish driver going about his business. He was dead in the passenger seat while the ‘driver’ who hijacked his truck conducted his mayhem. Get it?
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December 20, 2016 9:04pm
- Reid
  
  No he won’t Cap’n, he never gets anything. It’s because the DARPA project doesn’t rely on cognition but repetition, you see.
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  Caoptain Maniwaring , of course that is terrible but beyoond that I fail to see the point your trying to make ?
  
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  December 20, 2016 9:44pm
  - Reid
    
    I fail to see the point your trying to make ?
    
    Yes we know that stephie. Why don’t you surprise us one day and actually see one, even if only once, just so you can say you have.
    
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    December 20, 2016 10:33pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , are you Captain Mainwaring’s official spokesman ?
      
      Now for some laughs !
      
      cheese pizza = child pornography ?
      
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      December 20, 2016 10:46pm
      - Reid
        
        Reid , are you Captain Mainwaring’s official spokesman ?
        
        No stephie, I was talking about you. That’s another point you missed. Again.
        
        See what we mean?
        
        It just keeps happening stephie.
        
        And happening and happening and happening. It’s sad and appalling yet strangely fascinating all at the same time stephie.
        
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        December 20, 2016 10:50pm
EAD

Interesting that there has been no coverage at all from DPF today on the unspeakable horrors from Germany with women & children slaughtered at the ancient Christmas Markets – a place where one, even in today’s mental asylum of a world, should be able to be safe in as a place of sanctity.

Perhaps he’s saving it for tomorrow?
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December 20, 2016 9:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  EAD , excluding of course those 9 Blacks shot in their place of sanctity at Charelston N C ?
  
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  December 20, 2016 10:21pm
Manolo

The backlash against Merkel will topple her:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2440378/german-far-right-and-security-experts-blame-angela-merkels-open-door-migrant-policy-for-berlin-truck-attack-by-refugee/

Angela Merkel is facing a backlash after 12 people were killed when an attacker ploughed through innocent revellers at a Christmas market in a truck.
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December 21, 2016 6:20am
Manolo

This hack could well be one of the stephieboys:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/20/msnbcs-chris-hayes-works-double-time-to-make-berlin-turkey-attacks-not-seem-like-terrorism-video/
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