General Debate 10 December 2016

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duggledog

Ironically, are National now facing the exact same problem Labour faced (and still face)?

Whereas Helen sprayed 2-4-5-T on any fresh talent, our beloved PM was so popular, nobody National has now can compare – even though in reality, virtually any one of its MPs shine in comparison to Labour’s hopeless line up.

Will National become a victim of its own success?

I’ve been in the provinces and city suburbs a lot recently, and my internal polling this week finds many common folk are hugely disappointed Key has resigned.

They understand his purported reasoning, but nonetheless I’m hearing a sense of abandonment. People were waiting for the ‘incremental radicalism’ to bear fruit you see, but now with Key gone, whom they trusted implicitly, I think they’re going to be restless and uneasy this summer.

Civic underinvestment across the country, low quality immigration, petty theft, meth, exorbitant property prices spreading etc all getting worse and now the captain has rowed off into the sunset.

Go to the country quickly Mr English.
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December 10, 2016 8:03am
- Reid
  
  People were waiting for the ‘incremental radicalism’ to bear fruit you see
  
  Which was never going to happen. If you don’t do anything, nothing’s going to change. That’s how life and also the world works. You’d think people’d get that, wouldn’t you.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:10am
- jonar
  
  I’ve been in the provinces and city suburbs a lot recently, and my internal polling this week finds many common folk are hugely disappointed Key has resigned.
  
  Is that because they realised they’ll have to start understanding party policies rather than just voting for a guy that looks like they could have beer with?
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:12am
- MrTips
  
  Do you seriously think English won’t lean on Key over the next 12 months for advice/script on how to win the election?
  
  Words fail me…
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:45am
- holysheet
  
  English needs to “drain the swamp’ that is the national ministers.
  Getting rid of McCully, Smith, Finlayson, Brownlee, Guy, Woodhouse and Barry would be a great start.
  Finally refuse to have anything to do with the liabore whore in drag. Put him on notice that he is no longer required to prop up the Nats. He is only there for his own benefit. I defy anyone to point me to anything useful he has done in all his years sucking at the public tit.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:18am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Go to the country quickly Mr English.
  
  Disagree completely. I was at a social function last night with a diverse range of people, and overwhelmingly, people were supportive of Key for getting out when he has.
  
  Going early would play into Labour and the media’s hands. Why would English want to do that when he has a majority in the House on issues of confidence and supply and a set of Crown accounts that are the envy of the developed world?
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:44am
- tom hunter
  
  … but now with Key gone, whom they trusted implicitly, I think they’re going to be restless and uneasy this summer.
  
  Well they’re bloody fools then. Voting to keep Angry Andy and The Nutters (great potential band name BTW) out of office is one thing, but implicitly trusting any politician is a mug’s game.
  
  Here’s an example of what’s happening out in the provinces, courtesy of my latest Otorohanga Council newsletter (the italicised word is the original spelling, as is the bolding):
  
  With summer approaching, Council wishes to remind residents of the potential hazards of open fire. Council’s Restricted Fire Season starts at midnight on 9 January and finishes on 31 March 2017.
  
  A fire permit much be obtained from Council during this period for anyone wishing to light an open fire, which includes, but is not limited to-
  Campfires
  Cooking Fires
  Brazier
  Hangi Fires
  Controlled Burns
  Prescribed Burns
  Rubbish fires (includign gallon drums)
  
  The permit application must be lodged at least five working days prior to the desired date of the fire, as an inspection of the site may be required.
  
  FUCK!
  OFF!
  
  I think anyone can see the concern over “Controlled Burns” and the like – but camp fires? Cooking fires?Every summer for the last twenty years I’ve cranked up a small fire out on the lawn, using bricks and an old grate, so the kids could toast marshmallows and sausages. What these cunts are strongly implying is that I should apply for a permit five days before this.
  
  FUCK!
  OFF!
  
  We’re informed that “If you are unsure, contact Council”, about getting said permit.
  
  Of course.
  
  Yes, and don’t forget to tug your forelock to the little mikenmild you’ll be dealing with. And as with all such things it’s just butt-covering by the bureaucrats. If your lawn fire does get out of control they’ll be able to stand up in court (should it come to that) and claim that they did everything they could and it’s not their fault that you failed to comply.
  
  Of course.
  
  Thanks, John Key and National. Oh don’t worry, you’ve got my vote next year because the alternative is worse.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:47am
  - mikenmild
    
    What an egregious assault on your liberty.
    
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    December 10, 2016 11:45am
    - tom hunter
      
      Clap……clap……clap.
      
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      December 10, 2016 11:46am
      - sam green
        
        There’s antibiotics for that.
        
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        December 10, 2016 5:14pm
      - tom hunter
        
        An uptick for that young man.
        
        sam I mean, not you …. mikenmild.
        
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        December 10, 2016 7:13pm
Monique Watson

It’ll go okay if they have the right line-up. In some cases they retained nonperforming incumbents. If they give the back benchers their head then they can inspire some confidence. I can’t see how Bridges won’t get something meaty. Bennett to become Dep and Bridges Education?
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December 10, 2016 8:05am
- Igotta Numbum
  
  My pick says Kaye might get Education.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:06am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Kaye has been an excellent Associate Minister and is a natural successor to Parata.
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:49am
    - Viking2
      
      Unless she is tough enough to front the Teachers Union (which I Doubt), then that will be a failure.
      
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      December 10, 2016 12:44pm
EAD

While everyone’s attention the past week was on the change on the National Party Leadership, there was an excellent article on Zerohedge on the same day titled Something Strange Is Taking Place In The Mediterranean which I thought I’d wait a few days to comment on.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-04/something-strange-taking-place-mediterranean

It tells the story of the “rescue efforts” of the “refugees” in the Mediterranean and how so called “rescues” take place:

Human traffickers contact the Italian coast guard in advance to receive support and to pick up their dubious cargo. NGO ships are directed to the “rescue spot” even as those to be rescued are still in Libya. The 15 ships that we observed are owned or leased by NGOs have regularly been seen to leave their Italian ports, head south, stop short of reaching the Libyan coast, pick up their human cargo, and take course back 260 miles to Italy even though the port of Zarzis in Tunis is just 60 mile away from the rescue spot.”

The report elicited outrage from almost all of the readers. But just like many here on GD, the many of the readers repeat the infuriating fallacy that the invasion is due to stupidity on the part of Europe’s leaders. But these people are not dumb, they’re not stupid, and they’re not stumbling into what will be a challenge of existential dimensions. No.

The NWO globalists are fulfilling the plan drawn up by a man they honour with a prestigious prize every few years: Count Coudenhove-Kalergi,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi

who said that “the man of the future will be of mixed race. Today’s races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals….”

To repeat, the flooding of all European by Third World detritus has been carefully planned. It’s supported, despite the occasional tactical retreats, by all of the Continent’s political elite.

If you doubt this just consider an alternative: Europe builds and staffs a number of reception centres for those supposedly fleeing persecution, and locates them in the Middle East and North Africa. They could house them at a fraction of what it costs in Europe and – here’s the great part – all those drownings that they seem so concerned about would immediately end. But they have not done that and they will not do it. Because that would up-scuttle their plan for ~~White Genocide~~ “Diversity”.
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December 10, 2016 8:10am
- Reid
  
  Indeed EAD.
  
  As I said yesterday on the Extremism thread:
  
  So its not the Muslim’s fault really, is it. They’re just dumb animals, behaving perfectly naturally if someone comes up to them in whatever shithole they used to live in and told them they could do this if they wanted to come with them, all expenses paid.
  
  So the question any intelligent person needs to ask themselves is: who the fuck is doing this, because shit like this is not natural, it’s orchestrated, it’s deliberate, it’s designed, it’s organised and it’s exceedingly powerful and well resourced. For example, look at the media support they have. For example.
  
  Not to mention the political, judicial and security forces they marshal, as well.
  
  Someone is doing this, it’s not happening by accident.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:15am
  - Reid
    
    It’d be good if one of the downtickers could point to the flaw in the logic, lest one comes to believe you’re down ticking simply because you can’t handle the reality and you’re reacting like a child by putting your hands over your ears and blathering incessantly to stop the adult from explaining what they don’t want to hear.
    
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    December 10, 2016 8:23am
    - Griff
      
      This guy explains it well reid
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk
      
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      December 10, 2016 8:28am
      - Reid
        
        No I’m serious griff, click on that link in my post and see what someone is telling those immigrants. The question of who is doing that needs an answer.
        
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        December 10, 2016 8:29am
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , Ok take this as an example ,
      
      “Because that would up-scuttle their plan for White Genocide “Diversity”.
      
      Expand on this with examples of the white race facing annihilation in the same way Armenians 1915 and Jews WW2 , Cambodians under Pol Pot etc ?
      
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      December 10, 2016 8:32am
      - Reid
        
        stephie as I explained last night, you need to report back to DARPA and get them to recombobulate your wurzenflugel. The experiment is in danger, you keep wanting answers to questions no-one asked, as if that has anything to do with the point in discussion.
        
        The whole “million monkey typing forever will eventually produce Shakespeare” project is in jeopardy and I seriously doubt DARPA will appreciate it if you persist in your discombobulation after they’ve invested so much time, effort and resources into you.
        
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        December 10, 2016 8:41am
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid, so you think you have something profound to say by being a bit of smart fart ?
      
      Not only you support EAD’s weird White Genocide theories but also racial defilement / pollution ( Rassenschande ) ? And what about ((((the Jews)))) too ?
      
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      December 10, 2016 8:57am
- GoVege
  
  Look on the bright side EAD.
  These mixed race people are gonna be HOT.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:31am
duggledog

Monique you’re domiciled in the US right? With respect, come and see for yourself on the ground.

I’m only reporting the news as I’ve found it. I’ve been all over the place and sometimes I don’t even need to elicit the topic of leadership, replacement, the state of the country etc. The level of support for Winnie is staggering.

There will be a lot of talk about 2017 round the BBQs this summer. This is when people will be looking at their country and make dispassionate observations about the state of it after 8 years of Key.

I suspect it will be:

Economy sound; but internally, societal disaster. They’re going to go shopping now the trusty Corolla is no more…
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December 10, 2016 8:18am
Tauhei Notts

It’s a political blogsite so I can post this.
I hear that Michael Cullen’s daughter was elected to the board of N.Z.’s most profitable co-op dairy company on Thursday. She joins John Luxton (formerly a National Minister of Police) on the board of Tatua.
And further gossip from my area; Tauhei Hall was packed out last Sunday to hear Winston speak. I was told that, like an old Lothario, he knew which buttons to push. Racial separatism in resource consents got a good bashing. And, why do you farmers need a Fonterra head office in N.Z.s most expensive real estate, viz, The Viaduct. The sorts of things that ring alarm bells amongst cockies.
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December 10, 2016 8:18am
- Inandout
  
  At least farmers have their own interpretation of ‘draining the swamp’, and that is to create more productive land. The Greens of course see any swamp as ‘wetlands’, even a large puddle fits the bill. There is discontent in the provinces, of which cocky English should be keenly aware.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:47am
- rangitoto
  
  Electing Greebore First will definitely fix that.
  
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  December 10, 2016 11:00am
Stars And Stripes

Teens allegedly assault Maori Warden, manager, passengers and smash windows of Auckland train
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11764167.
“A group of teenagers caused mayhem when they smashed windows on a train on the Southern Line in South Auckland last night.
Reeves said 18 to 20 youths got on the train at Papakura and allegedly assaulted the Maori warden and train manager.”.

I’m sure raising the youth justice age will help to deal with savage scum like this as instead of the torturing them with a family group conference they will probably now be given a good behaviour bond with the promise of a play station to follow if they abide by it for a week.
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December 10, 2016 8:30am
- kowtow
  
  I suppose giving a more detailed description of the “teens” would be seen as racist?
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:49am
  - GoVege
    
    Of course.
    But the fact remains that these kids come from sexist cultures that believe males are entitled to have sex with as many females as they please, and not bother to use contraception or take care of the resulting offspring.
    Who, without any fatherly guidance, and a mum concentrating on finding another partner instead of caring for her kids (despite being PAID quite well to do so), inevitably end up running wild and trashing trains….
    The only solution is to force these chauvinist men to pay for their own kids or jail them until they do, or have a vasectomy.
    But that would offend the Maori Party and civil libertarians so nothing will be done.
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:28am
    - sooty
      
      Because they have not said so, we know the race already.
      
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      December 10, 2016 12:14pm
  - RF
    
    The fact that a Maori warden was there should be a good indication that the little shits were not albinos.
    
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    December 10, 2016 2:12pm
    - itstricky
      
      MWs are on every other train on all lines during rush hours and nights. That has stuff all next to no relevance.
      
      Where the incident happened probably does.
      
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      December 10, 2016 7:07pm
- Inandout
  
  The CCTV cameras are everywhere on the rail stations so should be able to identify offenders. They may however all look the same with their hoods on.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:54am
  - G152
    
    Hoods on hoods in the ‘hood…
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:21am
- Reid
  
  Reeves said 18 to 20 youths got on the train at Papakura and allegedly assaulted the Maori warden and train manager.”
  
  Train manager. I suppose that was the demand from the unions seeing they couldn’t get the conductors a pay rise.
  
  But seriously it’s a first world problem isn’t it, when 20 youths get on and smash a few windows. The dastardly swine.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:59am
  - kowtow
    
    Hey Reid
    
    Would you call it a first world problem if they came round your whare and did the same?
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:44am
    - GoVege
      
      That’s funny.
      A kid threw a rock through my Indian neighbour’s front window once.
      He was white.
      Most brown kids don’t sink that low.
      
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      December 10, 2016 11:11am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Exactly. Why petty vandalism when you can rape and murder?
        Aim high, shoot for the stars and cops.
        
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        December 10, 2016 2:51pm
  - Lance
    
    Cause assault is nothing right?
    And rocks large enough to smash laminated glass windows would never hurt or kill someone?
    
    They were out of control rock apes endangering decent people
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:37am
    - GoVege
      
      Calling the kids racist names isn’t going to help, Lance.
      These kids are out of control because they have no guidance in life.
      Most have no father and they are hurt and angry he didn’t love them enough to stick around.
      We are all responsible by allowing males to desert their kids and single females to fund their lifestyle with the DPB.
      
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      December 10, 2016 11:04am
      - PhilBest
        
        It is significant that one of Charles Murray’s later books is called “Coming Apart: the State of White America”.
        
        He chronicles the trends in family breakdown, achievement levels in education and income, and crime, among white Americans only – seeing his work prior had been routinely dismissed as “racist”.
        
        It is quite clear what is going on, regardless of whether it is allowable or not, to note that different cultures experience this collapse at different rates.
        
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        December 10, 2016 2:47pm
      - Lance
        
        No racism GoVege
        I call anybody that behaves like a rock ape a “rock ape” regardless of race, colour or creed.
        I have only ever judged someone on how they behave
        
        Your premise also insults the majority of people with unfortunate upbringings who manage to become worthy members of society.
        
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        December 10, 2016 3:45pm
      - GoVege
        
        You have a valid point there, Lance.
        I know plenty of people from broken homes who did not become vandals.
        Once again it has to come down to culture and values.
        One of the things I dislike most about sexist cultures is the way so many of the parents have hordes of kids, and don’t even care for them.
        They leave it to the older children to raise the younger ones, missing much of their education and taking out their resentment on the kids they have to babysit.
        The kids basically run wild because they have little parental input and even when they do, often it is mostly abuse.
        No wonder the kids end up on the streets.
        They know they are not wanted at home, except for the income they bring in.
        
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        December 10, 2016 9:34pm
Happychappy

I wonder how the Left and Andrew Little are going to portray Dirty Politics now they have no John Key or his office to pin the focus on. I read a story last week about how the Government had been apparently been hacked and it will have a effect in the next election, this by a person with history and making a mockery of our Justice system but not a word from Andrew Little so is this good coming from a Leader in waiting to become our Prime Minister or is it a sign that he thinks crime is alright unless it happens to Labour.
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December 10, 2016 8:35am
duggledog

Tauhei

The only thing holding the Winston Peters message back is Winston himself. It’s still a valid message whoever carries it.

The fact many find Winston toxic isn’t enough for them to stop giving their vote to NZ First.

Judith Collins was right. The opposition for National next year is not Labour or the Greens.
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December 10, 2016 8:37am
Chuck Bird

I find the sentencing notes very interesting particularly para 15 where the psychiatrist says there is nothing to suggest a personality disorder.

I also wonder why all guns were not taken from him when he fired warning shots at someone. A person who fires warning shots at someone has a personality disorder.

Stop-go murder: Life imprisonment for Quinton Paul Winders

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/12/general_debate_10_december_2016.html#respond
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December 10, 2016 8:37am
- kowtow
  
  A person who fires warning shots at someone is breaking the law.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:42am
holysheet

Unless you are a fonterra shareholder, it’s none of your business where they have their head office.
As a large corporate entity with many overseas visitors, I can assume these people want to visit a vibrant city and be entertained in the level they get overseas while visiting other corporates. It’s all about being seen as successful in the eyes of your prospective customers.
I don’t think an office in Morrinsville or Whykickamoocow will have the desired affect.
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December 10, 2016 8:41am
- jcuk
  
  Your right of course with your final comment but you ignore the problems of concentrating staff in the most expensive city in the country …. pure madness in my view on numerous levels.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:52am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Yes, mock the provincial towns as much as you like.
  But consider the neighbouring dairy farmers on Number Seven Road at Waitoa. They both rise early to milk their cows; they both go through calving problems; they make and store silage, and consider carefully their artificial breeding plans.
  One of them supplies a dairy company with its head office in N.Z.’s most expensive real estate, viz Auckland. He holidays at the local hot springs near Matamata.
  The other supplies Tatua, who have their head office near Te Aroha. He holidays in Europe or Asia.
  When told that a successful company must have a head office on expensive real estate he retorts;
  “If I wanted to listen to shit, I’d fart!”
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:56am
  - rangitoto
    
    Those farmers are the shareholders, they get to appoint the directors so why aren’t they appointing directors to do what they want. Nobody to blame but themselves and some out of date politician can and will do jack about it.
    
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    December 10, 2016 11:07am
- waikatogirl
  
  At least the staff parking would be easy and free in Morrinsville or Whykickamoocow ?
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:02am
calendar girl

The World Heavyweight Boxing title goes on the line today – not only in Auckland, but also in Manchester, England: http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/38263146 .

Strange how NZ’s media has remained very quiet about this – most people in this country would think that Parker v. Ruiz was the ultimate decider in world heavyweight boxing. Mind you, the BBC is rather quiet as well about an encounter taking place far away in Auckland on the same day as its own local event.

There seems to be a conspiracy within boxing (and its friends in the media) to leave the general public in general ignorance about the status of the ‘World Title’ fights. A quick look at wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavyweight_boxing_champions reveals that there are two currently-reigning ‘World Heavyweight Champions’ . Neither of them is fighting in Auckland this evening.

Remember, there were those in public roles who wanted Parker v. Ruiz to be financed by NZ taxpayers or Auckland ratepayers.
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December 10, 2016 8:47am
- G152
  
  Any-one else asking as to why (if they’re championship material) would they travel to a foreign country to fight ????
  And when do they run out of easybeats ????
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:25am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    when do they run out of easybeats ????
    
    The day Parker gets knocked the fuck out by a real fighter.
    
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    December 10, 2016 2:55pm
duggledog

Holysheet

Ask Fonterra how much they spend on corporate video and content.

If that got out farmers would riot.
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December 10, 2016 8:50am
Disaster Area

With all of the coverage of John Key’s decision to step down, I wonder how many people missed this story.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/education/news/article.cfm?c_id=35&objectid=11762756

and its follow up: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/education/news/article.cfm?c_id=35&objectid=11763288
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December 10, 2016 8:51am
- mikenmild
  
  Add charter school failures to the list of topics that DPF won’t be blogging about.
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:58am
  - Reid
    
    That’s probably because they’re not failing mm, which you would have discovered if you’d read the second article, but it did have a lot of boring words and not many pictures, so I quite understand.
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:05am
    - Disaster Area
      
      The point is that for the last four years, charter schools have been able to publish achievement figures which give them an inherent advantage over state schools and appear to paint a much better picture of their performance.
      
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      December 10, 2016 9:12am
    - PhilBest
      
      On Charter Schools and education generally, I would be critical of Key’s 8 years in that they have proceeded so cautiously and treated their opponents so politely. John Howard on education and other areas of reform, seemed to be following Roger Douglas’s dictum that reforms must be done boldly and wholesale so there is a chance that their success will win everyone round. Otherwise, apart from everything else, you present an appearance of not really believing in them anyway.
      
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      December 10, 2016 3:05pm
- Reid
  
  Oh dear! Liarbore’s biggest hit of the year and blasted Key steals it again! Without even trying!
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:07am
rightoverlabour

I see they are going to demolish the car park damaged by the earthquake without removing the cars. Questions to be asked are 1) Is the building so unstable its collapse is imminent?
2) If so, why has it not collapsed with the after shocks already?
3) If I decide to remove my car at my own risk why can’t I? ( I can swim in the sea at my own risk, walk on the edge of a volcano or drive in Auckland traffic at my own risk. )
4) Are they going to be replaced with identical models and who is going to pay? Insurance will leave them worse off.
5) Which memeber of the circle jerk is making these decisions? ( The same wankers that insrtucted the Army where it could and could not go, I suppose)
6) Is it time for civilians to tell these morons to get fucked?

Cheers
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December 10, 2016 8:57am
- jcuk
  
  We need to tell these morons to FO and introduce some accountability which compensates ordinary folk against these buros so scared of their shadows from a safety point of view …. the malase newly affecting NZ with the well intensioned Health and Safety law but a perfect arse in practice and unintended side effects.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:02am
- mikenmild
  
  1) A collapse does not have to be imminent for it to be dangerous
  2) Just because it hasn’t collapsed doesn’t mean it isn’t dangerous
  3) The building owner/manager is legally responsible for the safety of anyone on the premises
  4) If your insurance policy will leave you worse off for the loss, perhaps you should have paid for a different policy
  5) and 6) are not even worth answering
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:03am
  - Reid
    
    Spoken like the officious bureaucrat you actually truly are, mm.
    
    But the point is, the rest of us aren’t. Sometimes, you need to just get the fuck out of the way and let the adults in. We’re as brainy as you, you know. You’re not the end of common sense and wisdom. It doesn’t stop at your door and the rest of us gaze in wonder in awe at the majesty springing forth. No, that’s not how it is, on this issue and others like it. And you officious bureaucrats need to get that fact into your skulls, order the minions to take away their stupid orange cones, and let the involved adults decide what they want to do with their car. End of story.
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:40am
    - PhilBest
      
      Everyone knows that the risk of the building collapsing right at the precise time frame you drove your car out, has to be of around the same order of magnitude of risk as actually driving your car at all.
      
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      December 10, 2016 3:41pm
flipper

I wonder when “wrong side of the tracks” Devoid and her mirthless band of left wing speech Nazis will chase the thick as Pig Sh*** Sutton down over his anti-Jewish allegations against J Key. Devoid is a Collins legacy which suggests …….. ????
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December 10, 2016 9:00am
- stephieboy
  
  flipper , quite and hopefully Dame Devoid might consider chasing Sutton down as she may consider doing the same with Muslim bashers and haters who infest this blog !
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:09am
  - holysheet
    
    Stupidboy, it’s not that we hate mussies, but rather the things they do in the name of their paedophilic sky fairy. If they accepted all the things provided by the rest of us in good grace, most of us wouldn’t have a problem. You don’t leave a shit hole and then proceed to convert your new country into a shit hole.
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:28am
    - PhilBest
      
      Yes, and it is funny how most other identifiable immigrant cultures, within a generation, are at or above the average level for educational achievement, income, abiding by the nation’s laws, etc. This includes that their daughters are getting educations and careers, joining sports teams, expressing themselves in art, having boyfriends and marrying outside their own culture etc.
      
      ONE culture stands out as the rotten apple in the barrel. For example, the recent Casey Review in the UK noted:
      
      “…Some women’s rights groups have accused Sharia Councils and other parallel legal systems of denying vulnerable women and children access to equality and human rights. There have been claims that some Sharia Councils have been supporting the values of extremists, condoning wife-beating, ignoring marital rape and allowing forced marriage. The overriding principle is that these rules, practices and bodies must operate within the laws of the UK. Some women’s rights groups have accused Sharia Councils and other parallel legal systems of denying vulnerable women and children access to equality and human rights…”
      
      “…Economic inactivity levels remain unusually high among women from Pakistani and Bangladeshi ethnic groups – 57.2% are inactive in the labour market compared with 25.2% of White women and 38.5% of all ethnic minority women…”
      
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      December 10, 2016 3:47pm
rightoverlabour

Stupid Red Lights
1) Traffic on ramps – why?
2) Red Turn Right Lights -Why remain stationary when there are no on coming vehicles. At some interesections we have to engage our brains and make that decision, why not all?
3) Why no Left Turn on Red ( as in may countries) if no traffic?
Once again who makes thse stupid rules? and why cant we see best practice in other countries and copy that. Sick of being treated like a moron by the bunch that make these rules.
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December 10, 2016 9:00am
- Disaster Area
  
  Which genius in Dunedin set up the lights so that pedestrians cross at the same time as turning traffic is on a green light? It means that by the time all of the pedestrians have wandered across, the lights have turned back to red for the cars.
  
  Earlier this year they upgraded the lights at a 5 way intersection down here. Whilst the lights were out, they put in a temporary roundabout. The traffic flowed much more smoothly – until the lights were turned back on again.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:25am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep and not only that , they also redrew the lane markings such that one slow pedestrian can stop traffic turning left and one car turning right giving way to straight through traffic can block all traffic behind them that intended to go straight through . These geniuses spent 4 years at uni learning how to create chaos .
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:57am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Nope, six weeks induction, learning, exam and pass out with a period of drinking in-between
      
      These traffic engineers have to have been pissed to come up with some of these combinations and then add a fing bike lane!
      
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      December 10, 2016 1:44pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Who makes the rules? Socialist control freaks – State Sector Douchebags. The idea is to piss you off soooo much that you take public transport which can mean spending more time traveling than working.
  Tell me if I am wrong.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:29am
Inandout

Insurance companies may struggle to classify a vehicle being abandoned in a building as a loss, but if so then those clients with ‘agreed value’ will be the lucky ones.
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December 10, 2016 9:01am
flipper

I see douchebag milky is acing as an NZEI/Hipkins purveyor of teacher union crap …. again!
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December 10, 2016 9:03am
- Disaster Area
  
  The data come from a Ministry of Education report. Nothing to do with NZEI or the PPTA.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:08am
- rightoverlabour
  
  I dont pay much attention to them, and never respond to their rebuttles. There are about 10 of them….
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:37am
- doggone7
  
  Is everything which points out shortcomings about education, even if factual, “teacher union crap.”
  
  “Charter school pass rates plummet when brought in line with state schools.”
  
  “Charter school pass rates are out of line with state schools, a report has revealed.
  
  The reported exam results of the controversial schools gave “an imperfect representation of overall school performance”, an analysis given to Education Minister Hekia Parata states.”
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:44pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Oh shush. As you can see, facts don’t matter when flipper can just post a bit of abuse to get some upticks.
    
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    December 10, 2016 8:49pm
Stars And Stripes

I must say the level of religious and cultural insensitivity in the town where I live is truly shocking.
All the shopkeepers and even the local council are rubbing the minorities faces in it.
Bloody Christmas decorations.
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December 10, 2016 9:08am
- stephieboy
  
  Stars and Stripes , the same here in Mt Eden and I believe your former homeland Mt Roskill. The minorities etc I believe are actually enjoying the ” Bloody Christmas decorations.”
  
  Curious to know when you last graced a Church attendance during this festive time ?
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:12am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    I believe it was about the same time as Nasska attended his last one.
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:17am
    - stephieboy
      
      Stars and Stripes , so the Christmas festive symbols and imagery of the birth of our Lord is totally meaningless to you ?
      
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      December 10, 2016 9:20am
      - Reid
        
        It’s actually pagan imagery but don’t let that worry you.
        
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        December 10, 2016 9:33am
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , some of it is but the Christmas message is not lost on all those mangers , Bethlehem stars , Angels , Mary and Joesph and of course Christmas carols piped through shopping malls etc
      
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      December 10, 2016 9:37am
      - Reid
        
        No all of it is. The fact people get a warm glow out of it doesn’t change that.
        
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        December 10, 2016 9:45am
      - stephieboy
        
        Reid , the glow of the manger and candle lights ?
        
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        December 10, 2016 10:05am
      - PhilBest
        
        Yes of course Christmas Carols are all part of that oppressive white imperialistic edifice along with Handel’s Messiah, Beethoven’s Fifth, The Ode To Joy, The Londonderry Air, Land of Hope and Glory, O Sole Mio / It’s Now or Never, etc etc (just to make the point). All that memorable, hummable Arabic, Indian, Chinese, African melodic stuff has had such an unfair obscurity. Popular and enduring music being merely what people like, what a stupid idea!
        
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        December 10, 2016 4:05pm
BeeSting

John Prepares the Way for Jesus

(Mk. 1:1‑8; Lk. 3:1‑9, 15‑17; Jn. 1:19‑28) 31When it was the right time, John the
Baptizer* began telling people a message
from God. This was out in the desert area of
Judea. 2John said, “Change your hearts and
lives, because God’s kingdom* is coming
soon.” 3John is the one Isaiah the prophet*
was talking about when he said,

“ There is someone shouting in the desert:
‘ Prepare the way for the Lord.
Make the road straight for him.’”
Isaiah 40:3

4John’s clothes were made from camel’s
hair, and he had a leather belt around his
waist.

For food, he ate locusts* and wild
honey.

5People came to John from Jerusalem
and the rest of Judea and from all the areas
along the Jordan River. 6They confessed the
bad things they had done, and John baptized*
them in the Jordan.
7Many Pharisees* and Sadducees* came to
where John was baptizing people. When John
saw them, he said, “You are all snakes! Who
warned you to run from God’s judgment thatis coming? 8Change your hearts! And show
by the way you live that you have changed.
9I know what you are thinking. You want to
say, ‘but Abraham* is our father!’ That means
nothing. I tell you, God could make children
for Abraham from these rocks. 10The ax is
now ready to cut down the trees.a Every tree
that does not produce good fruit will be cut
down and thrown into the fire.
11“I baptize you with water to show that
you have changed your hearts and lives. But
there is someone coming later who is able to
do more than I can. I am not good enough
to be the slave who takes off his sandals. He
will baptize you with the Holy Spirit* and
with fire. 12He will come ready to clean the
grain.b He will separate the good grain from
the straw, and he will put the good part into
his barn. Then he will burn the useless part
with a fire that cannot be stopped.”
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December 10, 2016 9:21am
- Jack5
  
  Beesting, is it your plan to serialise the Bible in Kiwiblog General Debate?
  
  If so, for the sake of us who are sceptics but who still love its literature, can you please use the King James version?
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:35am
  - Manolo
    
    stephieboy would prefer the serialisation of the Quran, killing scenes excluded.
    
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    December 10, 2016 9:37am
    - Jack5
      
      Manolo, the Stephie troll teamsters don’t need to read their Book here. They know it by heart.
      
      It was all the head banging during years of memory recitation that fucked their heads.
      
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      December 10, 2016 9:38am
  - PhilBest
    
    Even the late Christopher Hitchens would have agreed with that request…! Even a militant atheist could see the King James’ authenticity as literature, even if they saw nothing else.
    
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    December 10, 2016 4:08pm
- stephieboy
  
  BeeSting Manolo, and Jack 5 . do recall this and take it to heart at this festive time ,
  
  “Do all the good you can. By all the means you can. In all the ways you can. In all the places you can. At all the times you can. To all the people you can. As long as ever you can.”
  
  John Wesley
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:41am
- B.L.Zeebub
  
  Where is the report ~~bullshit~~ spam button?
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    Another apostle of hate for this festive season of cheer and goodwill ?
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:03am
    - Manolo
      
      Tell that to your Muslim mates, experts in beheading, explosive vests, assassination and all sort of crimes.
      
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      December 10, 2016 4:14pm
lastmanstanding

Just back from 3 weeks in the UK and RoI. Also got to speak to a number of people from Euro countries. Those informed look at NZ economy political situation and social conditions with envy and wish they could have some of the same. Comments on JK departure were wonderment and the elegance of the way it was managed and the transition to a new leadership.

As Rabbie Burns said Oh to see ourselves as others see us.
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December 10, 2016 9:21am
- lifesgood
  
  That’s my experience too, lastman. NZers need to get out more, especially the Looney left, they have no idea how utterly fortunate they are. N Z is paradise which ever way you look at it. I get furious at the amount of blagging that goes on about this country. It is a privilege to live here.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:31am
  - jcuk
    
    However good the country is economically and indeed we are truly lucky to live here there are still problems to be fixed socially and the government of the past eight years despite the need for careful management could have done better. As one of the lucky ones I voted National the past few times but I can still see the problems that have not even been partially addressed thanks to the selfish attitudes of the ‘right’.
    Without John Key to moderate the extremes of his team I for one doubt if they will get my vote next time, nor will Labour ….that leaves ????? … not Greens either.
    I think a lot think something similar from a poll I saw this morning who think the change makes it harder for a 4th term.
    
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    December 10, 2016 5:25pm
- Happychappy
  
  All the Winston followers are being told another story from the UK of doom and gloom.So have another whiskey {HICK} is not telling the true story, i wonder why.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:34am
- mandk
  
  Nice, but the original language is better:
  
  “O wad some Power the giftie gie us
  To see oursels as ithers see us! “
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:46am
- Disaster Area
  
  The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
  
  But it still needs mowing.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:50am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    The grass is always greener where you water it 😀
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:10am
- kowtow
  
  Our version of dirty politics is child’s play compared to the dirty bastards some Micks have elected to their parliament.Disgusting.
  
  “Former IRA gun runner Martin Ferris and Provo bomb-maker Dessie Ellis were named in an email sent by their party leader to Garda Commissioner Nóirín O’Sullivan as people who may have information about the killing.
  Mr Adams attempted to put the controversy to bed yesterday by making an unprecedented statement to the Dáil, in which he rejected suggestions of improper behaviour in relation to the Stack family’s attempts to establish the truth about their father’s murder in March, 1983.”
  
  http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fin-in-turmoil-as-senior-tds-linked-to-stack-murder-35277759.html
  
  All this while the NI gummint reopen old wounds of reinvestigating army shootings. No loyalty from gummint towards its hard done by servants.No wonder they have recruitment problems.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:05am
flipper

The usual bunch of scribbling weasels are peeing their pants over the J Key “political/economic legacy”, and well they might. But will the five or six major Cabinet changes expected next week be “steady as she goes” ??? I doubt it. They will almost certainly suggest (foreshadow?) further change, possibly including leadership, in 2019. W English has 18 months to demonstrate that he has the force of personality necessary for the job, namely winning again in 2020.

Next week will be his first test. His second test will involve replacing some time-servers and idiots on the NP Board. They latter may be more difficult than the former. Some individuals will attempt to settle age old vendettas. But those folk no longer draw water.

But none of that will be comforting to Labour. As one MP put it in an email to me last night:
“This week has been one hell of an experience. I don’t think the opposition can grasp how we could manage to go through resignation announcement, debates & discussions and selection of a new leader within 70-odd hours, all the while projecting that it was under control, rapid but not rushed and looking both managed and fair. Makes their process look even more shambolic than it is. And on Monday after our caucus meeting we will emerge united behind our new leader and deputy. Labour will be spitting.
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December 10, 2016 9:27am
- Reid
  
  Yes. I wonder what Matt, Andy and “Brains” is coming up with in the war room, as I type this?
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:30am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It is Saturday, Reid.
    The workers need a day of rest.
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:12am
    - Reid
      
      Brains doesn’t. He’ll keep going for days unless his calculator breaks.
      
      And Matt and Andy are managers, so they have to work, because all managers do, in order to plan how better to oppress the workers, in this case, Brains.
      
      It’s a wonder they haven’t taken themselves to court, isn’t it, just to remind them of the good old union boss days, when they did it all the time, to “the management.”
      
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      December 10, 2016 2:25pm
Manolo

The WaPo, one of the birthplaces of fake news:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/09/washington-post-on-the-fake-news-hot-seat.html

Indeed, Washington’s newspaper of record—which was purchased in 2013 by Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos from the storied Graham family—is uncomfortably weathering a barrage of criticism from fellow journalists and others for a front-page story published over the Thanksgiving holiday.

The story, by Post technology reporter Craig Timberg and published Nov. 24, purported to reveal how “sophisticated” Russian propagandists had spread fake news through hundreds of web sites to destabilize American democracy, thwart Hillary Clinton and elect Donald Trump to the White House.
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December 10, 2016 9:30am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, the birthplace of fake news begins with Conservative media . In the dim distance past Rev Jerry Falwell began it back in 1994 with his movie The Clinton Chronicles that started the bogus Clinton Body bag claim.
  
  Since then Fox has been the principle purveyor of fake/ false news claims ,
  
  http://www.vox.com/culture/2016/11/21/13682574/fake-news-facebook-fox-news-conservative-radio
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:56am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Fake news has always been with us…
    
    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/anthropology-in-practice/three-historical-examples-of-fake-news/
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:15am
  - Reid
    
    stephie I hope and pray for the sake of your children and indeed humanity itself, that your parents secretly instruct them to always do the complete opposite of everything you ever say or do, lest you ever multiply. They’re our only hope!
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:39am
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid, I have taught ( not forced ) my children these things ,
      
      Develop and engage critical thinking skills ( ie develop a healthy skepticism) when confronted with claims that defy logic and common sense e.g fake moon landings and 9/11 was an inside job . I would add official government-controlled news agencies like RT and Sputnik that merely reflect back the official party line ,
      
      http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russian-propaganda-campaign-helped-drive-spread-fake-news-during-us-election-experts-say-1593372
      
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      December 10, 2016 11:10am
      - Reid
        
        So you mean we’re all doomed stephie. Well thanks a lot mate.
        
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        December 10, 2016 4:10pm
  - PhilBest
    
    Christopher Hitchens, the author of “Nobody Left to Lie To” (a most readable book about the Clintons) is “conservative media”?
    
    EDIT: among his other works, are “God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything”; and “The Missionary Position” (a hit job on none other than Mother Theresa).
    
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    December 10, 2016 4:11pm
Manolo

With friends like this clown:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-09/biden-hails-trudeau-and-merkel-as-last-liberal-leaders-standing

The world will look to Germany and Canada for leadership as the political status-quo is upended across the West, U.S. Vice-President Joe Biden said ahead of Donald Trump’s inauguration.
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December 10, 2016 9:35am
Keeping Stock

This is a really uplifting story, about the John Key you never really heard about; certainly not from all the haters:

It was C.S. Lewis who once said “Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.”

This is perhaps the greatest lesson I have learnt from our outgoing Prime Minister John Key, a man who changed my life by doing just that.

When I was 15 years old, on Saturday September 4, 2010, my father, Rod Miller, died in a skydiving plane crash in Fox Glacier, which killed nine people.

It was the worst plane crash New Zealand had experienced in 17 years, and it tore many people apart

It was a rough time for New Zealand. The very same day Christchurch experienced its first major earthquake, destroying the city. And just over one month later, the West Coast was hit with another tragedy, after 29 men died in the Pike River mine disaster.

It was how Key reacted to these terrible tragedies, particularly the one closest to my heart, where I first began to truly respect him, and appreciate him as a remarkable leader.

Following the plane crash, Key took the four-hour return drive from Hokitika to Fox Glacier to visit the crash site, and pay his respects to the victims.

Key’s humanness and kindness inspired me during this difficult time, so I wrote to him as a 15-year-old, thanking him for caring, while asking him for some advice in regards to my own future.

I was amazed to receive a very personal letter back directly from the prime minister.

Not only did he address all of my points issue by issue in an extremely kind and personal way, but he also enclosed a card, saying he wanted to meet me.

Several months later, Key, while visiting the West Coast to see the victims’ families of the Pike River mine disaster, came to our family home in Greymouth for whitebait sandwiches, a cup of tea and a chat about my future.

He didn’t publicise the visit for political profit. No media were invited. He did it out of the goodness of his heart, because he wanted to help, and because he cared.

It was the goodness of Key’s heart that inspired me to try my hardest in life, and strive to be the best version of me that I could be.

I vividly remember being inspired by the fact that Key had lost his father as a young kid, before achieving his childhood dream. I remember thinking, ‘if he could, why couldn’t I?’

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/87393084/jake-millar-how-john-key-changed-my-life

It’s certainly in complete contrast to the way that Annette King and Andrew Little have been shopping a 96-year-old woman around the media in the last few weeks.
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December 10, 2016 9:59am
- tom hunter
  
  Another story comes from a decade ago when he’d just been elected National Leader. At the time our builder had gifted us a year’s subscription to North and South and one edition had Key on the front cover.
  
  But it was a letter to the editor in the following monthly edition that caught my eye and stuck with me. It was from a guy now living in Australia, who’d worked beside Key in one of his early jobs at Canterbury (the clothing firm). Key’s job was “production co-ordinator”, a not very glamorous job of getting raw materials and production sorted out between the various South Island factories.
  
  The story went that the Yanks were very demanding about their shipments being on-time and exact, or the whole order would be rejected, and there came a time when “shit happened”. One West Coast factory informed Key that last minute stuff ups meant they’d not get their part of the package – about twenty cartons of rugby jerseys – to Chch airport in time for the flight to the USA. A 7am deadline was it and it looked like the whole consignment was stuffed because there no transport options that could meet it.
  
  That wasn’t good enough for John. He asked my permission to drive a company van across the Lewis Pass to Westport that night. He said he had confirmed with Westport that they would have finished the garments by 8pm, and he could load them aboard, return to Christchurch, and have them at the airport in time for the required deadline. It was winter, and snowing in the Lewis Pass. John drove across the country, picked up the goods, and saved the consignment.
  
  Ever since then, whenever I hear that trite customer service cliche about being willing to “go the extra mile” on behalf of your client, I think of John Key. He was willing to go the extra 400 miles for his customer, even when there was nothing in it for him personally.
  
  He was never going to stay in Christchurch – the world was his oyster – but he gained my admiration for his energy, intelligence, initiative and decency.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:24am
  - ross411
    
    Lol, a few more of these and he’ll be New Zealand’s real life Davey Crockett or something.
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:50am
    - mikenmild
      
      Surely there should be a movie made from this rich material.
      
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      December 10, 2016 11:51am
- Reid
  
  I’ve got nothing against Key as a person, but I don’t assess my prime ministers as to whether or not they’re likeable but on what they do.
  
  And he hasn’t done anything.
  
  That’s why he’s politically popular. Because he’s not spent any political capital ever, on anything. And since there are so many things which require changing, that’s not acceptable, in my view.
  
  Simple as that.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:50am
  - calendar girl
    
    He spent plenty of political capital on his flag referendum. And more, earlier, on Labour’s anti-smacking legislation. Ultimately he had enough personal political capital to get through handsomely.
    
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    December 10, 2016 2:59pm
    - Reid
      
      Yes he did do those two things didn’t he and what good did or has either of them done?
      
      Politics is not about winning by being popular, that’s easy, it’s trivial. Politics is about winning by doing the right thing. Which means discerning it, designing it, proposing it, selling it and implementing it. GST is a great example of all of those elements coming together.
      
      But Key’s equivalent rubber on the road, is where?
      
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      December 10, 2016 4:15pm
    - PhilBest
      
      You mean he spent political capital on NOT abolishing the anti-smacking legislation???
      
      Actually Frank Newman just nailed it in his latest online column; Key knew that the voters on the Right who were frustrated with his pandering to the Left, had nowhere else viable to go anyway. Apart from to a guaranteed coalition partner, ACT; and most of them understood this.
      
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      December 10, 2016 4:20pm
  - Manolo
    
    Not true. He failed to give us a new flag! 😀
    
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    December 10, 2016 3:01pm
- GoVege
  
  Beautiful story.
  Did you have to spoil it by criticizing Labour for trying to help a 96 year old lady cruelly deprived of her home help?
  
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  December 10, 2016 11:08am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Yes I did GoVege. Poor old Trixie will the rueing the day her family approached Annette King.
    
    Yes, her story is unfortunate. But Labour MP’s are now baying her name in Parliament whenever Jonathan Coleman answers a question. The poor old soul has become nothing more than a political insult, and at her time of life, that’s incredibly sad.
    
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    December 10, 2016 12:05pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  You only have to shake John Key’s hand to realise that he is a very genuine man
  
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  December 10, 2016 11:19am
BeeSting

The King James Reads very Well
What ever one you read you have to
admit it is great reading.

There is a full months preparation for christmas
it is called the season of advent

This site has all versions
http://biblehub.com/isaiah/40-3.htm

King James Bible
The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

What are you skeptical about?

John the baptist lived (wasn’t he great)
he lived on Locusts and Wild Honey.

He Tells it like it is

I can tell you a Bee hive is complete food
Multi Vitamins in Pollen (Look it up)
Eat the Brood as well (the japanese do that)
The eat locust in restaurants now.

Honey is the most mentioned food in the Bible.
by the way.

Are people still allowed to mention sodom without being thrown to the Lions

Jesus Warns People Who Refuse to Believe
(Lk. 10:13‑15)
20Then Jesus criticized the cities where
he did most of his miracles.* He criticized
these cities because the people there did not
change their lives and stop sinning. 21Jesus
said, “It will be bad for you Chorazin*! It will
be bad for you Bethsaida*! I did many miracles
in you. If these same miracles had happened
in Tyre* and Sidon,* the people there
would have changed their lives a long time
ago. They would have worn sackcloth* and
put ashes on themselves to show that they
were sorry for their sins. 22But I tell you, on
the day of judgment it will be worse for you
than for Tyre and Sidon.
23“And you, Capernaum,* will you be lifted
up to heaven? No! You will be thrown down
to the place of death. I did many miracles in
you. If these same miracles had happened in
Sodom,* the people there would have stopped
sinning, and it would still be a city today.
24But I tell you, it will be worse for you in the
day of judgment than for Sodom.”
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December 10, 2016 10:08am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Preach the Gospel at all times. When necessary, use words.
  
  I think St Francis of Assisi summed it up quite nicely BeeSting. Or as a fellow believer once told me early in my own faith journey, “You and I may be the only Bible some people ever read”.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:14am
  - PhilBest
    
    Wouldn’t he have been referring to the ban on the laity reading the Bible at all, back in those days?
    
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    December 10, 2016 4:22pm
- GoVege
  
  Anyone tried locust?
  We gotta do something about these hordes of little b****ards descending on our towns and eating everything in sight.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:52am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Here’s a recipe
    http://www.greenprophet.com/2013/03/feasting-on-locusts-a-recipe-from-moshe-bassons-kitchen/
    
    I’m not tempted at present…. I’m a vertebrativore,
    but at a pinch, I’ll eat bugs.
    
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    December 10, 2016 11:13am
- Reid
  
  Geneva Bible is my preference, it’s better than the KJV which is my second.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:52am
- ross411
  
  “The saddest thing I ever did see
  Was a woodpecker peckin’ at a plastic tree.
  He looks at me, and “Friend,” says he,
  “Things ain’t as sweet as they used to be.”
  
  Peckin’ – Shel Silverstein.
  
  Enjoy it. 100x less naff than your earbeating.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:58am
Yadayada

Bridges out
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December 10, 2016 10:27am
- GoVege
  
  Bloody hell…
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:42am
Inandout

Memo to Bill English:
It is rumoured Paula Bennett has a ‘past’. Now if she was a Labour MP she would be exempt from media poking around, but she is National.

Memo to SIS:
Bill here, find out if there is anything substantial in the rumours.
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December 10, 2016 10:31am
- GoVege
  
  Psssst!
  I hear she used to eat her own PETS!
  And she’s not even ashamed to admit it…
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:48am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    She’s a real man Veg. Something you will never be. No matter how hard you shill.
    
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    December 10, 2016 3:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I hope someone is bottling this miraculous Taranaki water

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/87427348/rugby-legend-colin-meads-opens-up-about-his-cancer-hinting-at-magic-cure

I’m prepared to offer some Gizzy water for a decent koha…. the steers across the road will supply the secret ingredient.
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December 10, 2016 10:32am
- ross411
  
  Yet another sportsperson who figures that they can give everyone an earbeating about whatever loony shit they did or hear last.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:53am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Todays illustrative example of the our degenerate Globohomo elite:

“…she also uses that ceramics expertise to craft beautiful functional objects, including vulva-inspired pipes. Or, as she likes to call them, pussy pipes…Sweet said she started making pussy pipes and other usable objects because she “wanted [her] work to be accessible and live with people, to be touched, to be an extension of [herself] out in the world creating kinship.”..“My art is about creating space for queerness to exist unapologetically in the world,” Sweet told BuzzFeed.”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/norawhelan/pussy-pipe?bftw&utm_term=.rhBO965mj#.uny50AkXJ

And yes, this degenerate lesbian “artist” is FUGLY.
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December 10, 2016 10:33am
- GoVege
  
  How many have you ordered Jazz?
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:46am
  - ross411
    
    Ordering requires two free hands, one of his is feverishly involved in beating away the gay.
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:54am
BeeSting

Why We Celebrate Christmas

SYRIA

The news about Jesus spread
all over SYRIA, and people brought to him
all those who were sick. They were suffering
from different kinds of diseases and pain.
Some had demons* inside them, some suffered
from seizures, and some were paralyzed.
Jesus healed them all.

Jesus Teaches and Heals the People
(Lk. 6:17‑19)
23Jesus went everywhere in the country
of Galilee. He taught in the synagogues* and
told the Good News about God’s kingdom.*
And he healed all the people’s diseases and
sicknesses. 24The news about Jesus spread
all over Syria, and people brought to him
all those who were sick. They were suffering
from different kinds of diseases and pain.
Some had demons* inside them, some suffered
from seizures, and some were paralyzed.
Jesus healed them all. 25Large crowds
followed him—people from Galilee, the Ten
Towns,* Jerusalem, Judea

You can now compare what Christ did in Syria
see the differences and determine what represents good and what represents evil.

and compare

“Jesus healed them all.”

M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S

The Gospel of Matthew that was taken out of
is only 34 pages on a pdf not much to read
but it is all there.

That paragraph on Syria Jesus.

So relevant today, those poor people in Syria now
God help them.
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December 10, 2016 10:36am
- ross411
  
  What an earbeating. When you pray for favours and luck and fortune, consider that you might be praying to someone other than god.
  
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  December 10, 2016 10:56am
  - BeeSting
    
    You can tell it is the truth by the reaction.
    
    Like Pouring Holy Water on a Vampire.
    
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    December 10, 2016 11:53am
    - mikenmild
      
      Or throwing BeeSting into the village pond. If he floats; he’s a witch. If he drowns; he was innocent.
      
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      December 10, 2016 11:55am
  - B.L.Zeebub
    
    No point even engaging him Ross,you might as well beat your head against a brick wall he has renounced the use of reason and is proud of that fact.
    “It is hard enough to win an argument with a smart person but damn near impossible to win one with a stupid motherfucker” Anon.
    
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    December 10, 2016 12:19pm
    - GoVege
      
      You fellas are hilarious!
      
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      December 10, 2016 9:39pm
Viking2

The last stupid act of Keys reign.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/87339116/medicinal-cannabis-loophole-shut-down-by-government
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December 10, 2016 10:57am
- ross411
  
  Interestingly:
  
  Customs did not respond for requests for comment.
  
  And comments are disabled. I would have been interested to see how the balance of opinion settled on this one.
  
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  December 10, 2016 11:00am
  - Viking2
    
    We already know the answer.
    That is if you have been watching and listening for the last 15 years.
    
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    December 10, 2016 6:52pm
Reid

Hillary Reemerges, Slams “Dangerous Epidemic” Of Fake News

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-08/hillary-reemerges-slams-dangerous-epidemic-fake-news

In the video clip she’s wearing purple. Remember I told you the morning after the election she and Bill attended Soros’ launch of the Purple Revolution at a NY hotel and give you those photos of those purple outfits they were wearing then?

Then we get the “fake news” meme. And Killlary emerges to give it a push. To make it “respectable.” (Amongst the lifelong Democrat base)

Connecting the dots?

This is what Soros does, this is how he works, it’s just normally he’s doing it in countries we don’t live in, but this time, he is.

It’s quite obvious when you know what to look for, isn’t it. But if you don’t, it quite passes you by. And this is how social engineering works, it’s being done to you, right before your eyes.
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December 10, 2016 11:12am
- ross411
  
  Yes, yes, the reptilians are in control and Soros is their leader. Got it.
  
  I just finished a nice cup of tea, can you pop by and read the tea leaves?
  
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  December 10, 2016 11:16am
  - Reid
    
    When its happening in front of your eyes, pretending it isn’t doesn’t make sense.
    
    And it is happening, isn’t it.
    
    Soros did launch his Purple Revolution in that NY Hotel which the Clintons attended the morning after the election.
    
    Soros does use propaganda and rent-a-crowd techniques and has repeated the same formula in many countries over many decades.
    
    The fake news bullshit is a propaganda meme and you can tell this because the media is behaving with it the same way they behaved with Clinton vs Trump.
    
    and there are many, many more dots.
    
    Pretending they don’t exist is rather stupid.
    
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    December 10, 2016 11:33am
- Fletch
  
  What is so ironic is that Hillary “they died because of an online video” Clinton is the queen of fake news.
  
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  December 10, 2016 12:55pm
  - PhilBest
    
    And Washington didn’t authorise their protection because of….?
    
    Of course we can’t have our nasty rough military shooting at “peaceful protesters”.
    
    But close ranks and delete the emails and everything else relating to this 3am discussion.
    
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    December 10, 2016 4:28pm
VicParking

I see that Whale Flocculation is spouting off about John Key beening an under achiever. After being left with the government finances in a Labour crap, having a WW economic Crisis, being shaken by the Christchurch earthquake and having milk prices go down the drain the government has done quite well to get us to surplus and near the top of most economic and social indicators in the world.
Not what I would call under achievement.
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December 10, 2016 11:12am
- Reid
  
  All he did was open the immigration floodgates Vic, that’s all he did. Don’t you get that? That’s not much of an achievement if you ask me.
  
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  December 10, 2016 12:17pm
- Morrissey
  
  Key let Whalefat run his character assassination campaign out of his office, for Pete’s sake! How ungrateful can a fat slob get?
  
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  December 10, 2016 12:31pm
cha

This should be fun.

CNN: Obama orders report into WikiLeaks timed for release just prior to Trump presidency https://t.co/YZNpSht3tj https://t.co/MsNZhrTzTL— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) December 9, 2016

WikiLeaks isn't mentioned in the CNN story. But "Russian hacking" is. ? https://t.co/yqT1K3p3mD— David Greenwald (@davidegreenwald) December 9, 2016

Obama: We'll release a report on Russian hackingWikileaks: Obama is going to release a report on usObama: Wait what are you admitting th– https://t.co/oFy2YxSjOc— Roberto Ferdman (@robferdman) December 9, 2016
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December 10, 2016 11:18am
- Fletch
  
  Funny how it’s so important now, yet there have been reports of hacking for years by the Russians, Chinese etc, and no one seemed to care much.
  
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  December 10, 2016 12:53pm
  - Morrissey
    
    There’s as much evidence of Russian hacking of the disastrously inept Clinton campaign as there is that Julian Assange is a rapist: in other words, zero.
    
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    December 10, 2016 2:22pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      You’ll enjoy this then
      https://mobile.twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/806675701428424704
      
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      December 10, 2016 2:35pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Hilarious! Tucker Carlson summed up Mr Schiff perfectly: “dumb and duplicitous.”
        
        No wonder they were so thoroughly rejected by the voters. Thanks for that, my friend.
        
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        December 10, 2016 2:42pm
Reid

As 21WIRE reported earlier this week, in a historic turning point in a five-year bloody conflict, the Syrian Arab Army liberated the Old City of Aleppo from the hands of occupying terrorists and armed militants. This joint victory by Syria and Russia has caused a panic in Washington, however, as well as in London, Paris, Saudi Arabia and Qatar – all of whom hoped they would eventually destroy the entire city of Aleppo, and win their proxy war in the process. Prior to this week, the US-led ‘Coalition’ still believed that they could somehow force a Syria-Russia military pause, and UN-enforced No Fly Zone or ‘Safe Zone’ – by continuing to back a militant opposition that has been occupying East Aleppo since 2012. Their epic failure has prompted yet another highly dangerous and desperate move by a lame duck US President – signing a new order which could deliver unlimited arms and support to ‘moderate’ terrorists in Syria.

On Tuesday, President Barack Obama issued a White House memorandum (see full text below) to both the US State and Defense departments which waives any arms export control restrictions on providing ‘military assistance’ to any and all ‘foreign forces’ in Syria, according to a White House press release issued today…

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/12/08/breaking-new-obama-executive-order-opens-door-for-unlimited-arms-to-islamist-terrorists-in-syria/

What this is about is issuing thousands of deadly MANPADS (Man-portable air-defense system) to the Syrian terrorists so they can significantly degrade Syrian airspace.

What will happen is hundreds of these stinger missiles will wind up in Europe and the US.

And Obama did it.

Remember that.
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December 10, 2016 11:23am
- BeeSting
  
  https://www.barnabasfund.org/news/Christians-in-Aleppo-face-death-on-all-sides
  
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  December 10, 2016 11:57am
  - stephieboy
    
    BeeSting , so Muslim civilians facing death are mere collateral damage ?
    
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    December 10, 2016 12:38pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      No. Muslims facing death are an added bonus.
      
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      December 10, 2016 3:43pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid, Obama aren’t the rebels allowed to defend themselves ? Here is the front man Patrick Henningsen of the 21st Wire consorting with the usual bunch of Conspiracy theorists and anti -Semites on Red Ice Radio / TV,
  
  https://redice.tv/news/jews-hollywood-and-gaza-some-thoughts
  
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  December 10, 2016 12:33pm
  - Morrissey
    
    The “rebels” are Al Qaeda and ISIS.
    
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    December 10, 2016 12:44pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Morrissey , bollox ! The rebels are a divergent group that include the Free Syria Army and others who oppose al Nursa and ISIS..
      
      Explain the US-backed Mosul offensive against ISIS and the bombing of ISIS positions in Syria by the USAF ?
      
      http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/02/22/us-steps-up-syria-bombing-against-isis.html
      
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      December 10, 2016 12:59pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Stephie, you do your credibility no good at all by citing such an obviously compromised website. Could I suggest you actually have a look at some rigorous and serious scholarship? The following might be a good start for you…..
        
        http://medialens.org/index.php/component/acymailing/archive/view/listid-1-alerts-full/mailid-97-targeting-syria-the-bad-news-for-the-guardian.html
        
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        December 10, 2016 2:20pm
      - Reid
        
        Explain the US-backed Mosul offensive against ISIS and the bombing of ISIS positions in Syria by the USAF ?
        
        I did that for you yesterday stephie, perhaps you’ve forgotten. Now you explain why the US “bombed” ISIS for 15 months and ISIS continued to make gain after gain, whereas three short months after the Russians arrived, ISIS expansion was contained, and it’s been downhill ever since. Explain that, stephie. Like I said, I explained Mosul to you yesterday, now it’s your turn.
        
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        December 10, 2016 4:20pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Morrissey, underwhelmed by your link that appears to be pro-Assad , anti MSM and pro-Chomsky , of course anti US condemning the very thing that enables to blog/ post their alt left rants .
        
        The facts remain the USAF are bombing ISIS targets both within Iraq and also Syria. Any denial is reminiscence how Chomsky rather cowardly once denied Khmer Rouge genocide ,
        
        http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/09/more-isil-sites-syria-hit-air-strikes-20149268485617974.html
        
        Reid , the ISIS Caliphate originated and has its strong hold in Iraq and located at Mosul and in a country where they have lost a considerable amount of territory
        
        .For them Syria is something of a sideshow .
        
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        December 10, 2016 6:14pm
      - Reid
        
        No stephie that doesn’t answer the question, it doesn’t even address it. Try again.
        
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        December 10, 2016 6:53pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , ye it does does Tthe US-backed forces of Iraqi, Kurds and Shia Militias are attempting to recapture the ISIS stronghold of Mosul.
      
      These India based reports alone gives a lie to the scurrilous claim that Israel and the US funds ISIS.
      
      http://www.dnaindia.com/topic/mosul
      
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      December 10, 2016 6:58pm
      - Reid
        
        I asked you to explain why the US bombed for 15 months and made no gains and the Russians bombed for three and stopped ISIS in its tracks and has now decimated it. Explain that, go on. Stop talking about Mosul, that would be a good start. That’s not what I’m asking.
        
        Reminder stephie: Mosul was YOUR QUESTION NOT MINE. What’s more I answered YOUR QUESTION yesterday,
        
        So answer mine.
        
        Go on.
        
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        December 10, 2016 7:53pm
Manolo

Was Griff among them?
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/08/global-warming-protesters-met-with-bitter-cold-snow/

A small group of global warming activists protesting oil and gas drilling outside the Department of Interior office in Colorado Thursday morning were met with bitter cold weather and snow.
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December 10, 2016 11:51am
Morrissey

Great Moments in Broadcasting. NOT.
No. 4: Susan Baldacci and Jim Mora talk about “lack of empathy”
The Panel, Radio NZ National, Wednesday 16 October 2013 
Jim Mora, Steve McCabe, Gordon McLauchlan, Susan Baldacci

“‘Sincerity — if you can fake that, you’ve got it made.’—GEORGE BURNS

JIM MORA: It’s quarter to four: time for Susan Baldacci and what the WOOOOOOORLD’s talking about! 

SUSAN BALDACCI: Well, first up is this modern phenomenon of giving children names that can contribute to them becoming narcissists. 

JIM MORA: Oh yes? Ha ha ha ha!

 SUSAN BALDACCI: Jean Twenge, psychologist and co-author of The Narcissism Epidemic, notes that a remarkable number of people have turned naming their babies into opportunities to show off — a sign of our culture’s increasing vanity. 

GORDON McLAUCHLAN: [sagely] Ha ha ha ha! 

STEVE McCABE: [thoughtfully] Hmmmmmm…. 

SUSAN BALDACCI: Yes, there is an ever increasing incidence of names such as Messiah, King, Prince, Greatness. There are even sixteen girls called Beautifull—with two Ls.

 JIM MORA: You’d have to be beautiful, with a name like that! 

SUSAN BALDACCI: Well it reflects a growing narcissism in society. You know, a lack of feeling, a lack of empathy for the suffering of others….

At that point, I was simply unable to continue listening to the idle chatter any longer. I’m sure I was not the only one to pick up on the exquisite, canting hypocrisy of Ms. Baldacci’s words. Messrs McCabe and McLauchlan were too polite to mention it, but Susan Baldacci and Jim Mora are the last people in the country who should be pontificating about a lack of empathy for the suffering of others….

https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-16102013/#comment-711105

Great Moments in Broadcasting. NOT is an occasional series highlighting some of the worst moments in our pretty shameful history of broadcasting mediocrity and downright failure.
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December 10, 2016 12:18pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You are picking at a scab.
  Desist.
  Turn off the radio Mon-Fri 4pm-5pm.
  
  (Maggy’s little steps – cure for RNZ addiction)
  
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  December 10, 2016 2:07pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Thanks for the advice Maggy. But a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.
    
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    December 10, 2016 2:08pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      So what are you up to?
      
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      December 10, 2016 8:29pm
Manolo

Will Spain let the scum in?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4017346/400-migrants-storm-walled-Spanish-city-bordering-Morocco-battle-police-gain-entry-Europe.html

Around 400 African migrants forced their way into the tiny Spanish enclave of Ceuta today, the biggest group in a decade to storm the walled city bordering Morocco in search of asylum.

The group – mainly men – forced their way through two entry points in the 20-feet barrier that surrounds the Spanish enclave.
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December 10, 2016 12:18pm
- fernglas
  
  Having passed through Ceuta on the way to Morocco, I can’t imagine they would want to stay.
  
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  December 10, 2016 12:22pm
Reid

“Many people in Washington are irate over Wikileaks — not because the emails were untrue but because they proved what many had long suspected . . . that Washington is a highly corrupt place full of truly despicable people.”
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December 10, 2016 1:50pm
- doggone7
  
  A sort of US version of dirty politics!
  
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  December 10, 2016 8:50pm
Jack5

Out of a dolphin’s blow hole

Interesting correction in the Christchurch Press today:

On November 18, the Press published a story on a proposed marine reserve which quoted a Forest and Bird advocate stating that “up to 170 Hector’s dolphins are caught in nets every year.”

In fact, Department of Conservation’s marine mammal database has 186 reports of Hector’s dolphins being caught by recreational and commercial fishermen since 1973, an average of 4.4 each year.
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December 10, 2016 1:51pm
Manolo

Getting fatter and more bloated by fleecing the gullible:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/an-inconvenient-truth-sequel-debut-at-sundance-opening-night-954933

Paramount will release the follow-up to Al Gore’s Academy Award-winning documentary about the world’s climate crisis in 2017.

The Sundance Film Festival will open with a follow-up to An Inconvenient Truth, former Vice President Al Gore’s two-time Academy Award-winning documentary about the world’s climate crisis.
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December 10, 2016 2:48pm
BeeSting

Talking About Vampires

And listening to Zombies
As we listen to the zombies preach about the horror show their other zombies have created.

Lets’s give credit where Credit is due.

The Muslim world created Dracula
Count Dracul or
Vlad the Impaller as he is known

Kept as a slave both him and his brother
Raped and Abused by them
the rape of his brother is recorded

Bit of an on going theme there.

http://www.kishiniov.eu/en/childhood-youth-vlad-impaler-dracula/

Eventually he turned their methods back on them

THE IMPERIAL RAPE OF DRACULA’S BROTHER

Life for high born hostages at the court of the Sultans was not that hard – except for the permanent danger of being killed in case the father did not behave. At the same time those hostages were regarded as possible replacements for ruling the vassal countries. In all other respects a hostage prince would have a luxurious life and be educated for a military and ruling career. There are no references on the life of Vlad the Impaler at the court of Sultans, but the contemporary Greek historian Laonic Chalkokondiles tells us a story regarding his brother Radu, happened around 1451-1452:

(…) The Emperor had with him the brother of Vlad, son of Dracul, and was his favourite, living with him. And so it happened that when he began to rule, the Emperor wanted to have a relation with this boy that almost killed him. Because he liked the boy, he invited him to parties and raised the cup with lust asking him into his bedchamber. And the boy was taken by surprise to see the Emperor rushing on him for such a thing and stood against it and did not concede to the Emperor’s craving. But the Emperor kissed him against his will and the boy sheathed a dagger and cut the Emperor’s thigh and then ran away. The doctors healed the Emperor’s wound. And the boy climbed a tree nearby and stayed hidden. Only after the Emperor left, the boy descended and walked away and then came back to the court and again he was the Emperor’s favourite. (…)

It’s not clear if Radu became in the end Mehmed the Conqueror‘s lover – most probably he did. The sharp tongued Romanians nicknamed Radu „the Handsome”, an ironic reference to his past as the Sultan’s favourite. (Radu the Handsome got eventually married to a Serbian princess and had a daughter that married the ruler of Moldova, Stephen the Great). One cannot refrain to speculate what the history would have been if Radu the Handsome had managed a deeper cut into Mehmed the Conqueror’s thigh – perhaps Constantinople would have had a chance against the Ottomans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler

They raised him and made him the man he was.
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December 10, 2016 2:54pm
- Morrissey
  
  Talking about zombies, what happened to this one?….
  
  https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1401757050/992/10059992_600x400.jpg
  
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  December 10, 2016 3:07pm
Monique Watson

Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. When they drained the swamp near my home town in the ‘Naki all the pukekho disappeared. Just make sure you wear gumboots when you walk through the swamp.
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December 10, 2016 3:39pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Snakes (eels) and leeches still there?
  
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  December 10, 2016 5:37pm
BeeSting

talking about Morissey’s

How about this one

Morrissey – “Irish Blood English Heart”

https://vimeo.com/10274155

Irish blood, English heart, this I’m made of
There is no one on earth I’m afraid of
And I will die with both of my hands untied
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December 10, 2016 5:38pm
Viking2

John Key…tried to change the flag because we are no longer ruled by the English…then quit so we can be ruled by English
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December 10, 2016 6:50pm
Steve (North Shore)

Just for the corksoakers that pester this blog.
Some Trump satire
https://vimeo.com/194220676
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December 10, 2016 6:57pm
stigie

You may have seen this Steve..?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3fuia_italian-cork-soakers_fun
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December 10, 2016 7:34pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Featuring Janet Jackson!
  
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  December 11, 2016 8:12am
BeeSting

https://investmentwatchblog.com/new-zealand-prime-minister-resigns-after-getting-caught-giving-13-7-million-in-taxpayer-money-to-the-clinton-foundation-merkel-gave-5-million-to-the-clinton-foundation-during-our-election/
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December 10, 2016 8:14pm
- RF
  
  Jesus H Christ.. this had better be BS.
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    In October NBR ran an article about MFAT’s funding to the Clinton Health Access Initiative
    CHAI.
    
    MFAT have published that they support CHAI
    https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/aid-and-development/our-approach-to-aid/our-partners/
    
    About $7M already given…. another $6M promised.
    
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    December 10, 2016 10:36pm
Manolo

Islamic love in Nigeria:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/schoolgirl-suicide-bombers-kill-56-in-nigeria-1.2900372

Two schoolgirl suicide bombers killed 56 people and wounded dozens more in a co-ordinated attack on a crowded market in the northeastern Nigerian town of Madagali on Friday, a local official said.

The bombings bore the hallmark of Islamist militant group Boko Haram, which has been waging an insurgency to set up a state adhering to a strict interpretation of Muslim laws in the northeast.
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December 10, 2016 8:29pm
Manolo

Crooked Hillary spent a fortune in vain:
http://nypost.com/2016/12/09/hillary-clintons-losing-campaign-cost-a-record-1-2b/

Hillary Clinton and her supporters spent a record $1.2 billion for her losing presidential campaign — twice as much as the winner, Donald Trump, according to the latest records.
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December 10, 2016 8:34pm
- RF
  
  I am sure the Clinton Foundation will reimburse Crooked Hillary. After all that’s their slush fund used for private weddings, private jet hire, Bribs etc…
  
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  December 10, 2016 9:24pm
Jack5

Saturday night oddspot.

A light-hearted movement to take English back to its German roots explained by an expert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIo-17SIkws

and the movement’s web site:

http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Main_leaf
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December 10, 2016 10:11pm
Manolo

The best and worst of fake news:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.f83d240a67d6
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December 11, 2016 6:52am
Manolo

With great experience in selling smoke, they turn now to peddling AGW:
http://www.catholic.org/news/green/story.php?id=72433

Global climate change is a hot topic. Particularly among Catholics who tend to be politically conservative. American political conservatives don’t usually accept the science on global warming. The problem? The Catholic Church does accept the science, and now there’s a request that priests learn about it as part of their formation.
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