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Paulus Gnome

CNN reports: ‘FBI Directors family not found dead from suffocation after not driving off a bridge into a river anywhere near Chappaquiddick’
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November 8, 2016 8:01am
tom hunter

Threw this link into the latest Trump thread, but it also belongs here: from the New York Post, The 2016 election seen along US 30 – the Lincoln Highway.

Conceived in 1913, when paved roads existed only in big cities, the highway (also known as US 30) connected 13 states and 700 communities from New York to San Francisco.

Lots of good quotes from ordinary Americans.
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November 8, 2016 8:06am
- Andrei
  
  Lots of good quotes from ordinary ~~Americans~~ Russians
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:14am
- EAD
  
  This sums up why despite the overwhelming negative coverage the MSM gives Trump, so many of thes “ordinary Americans” still can’t bring themselves to vote for Hillary.
  
  This may be the difference tomorrow – Trump’s voters are motivated to stick a finger to the establishment. Most of Hillarys support is because she is not Trump. Whose voter Base will be more motivated?
  
  http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/11/try-sincerity-for-a-change/
  
  How do we know that Hillary Clinton is not pro-liberal, pro-feminist, and pro-gay? Aside from the fact that she remains married to a rapist, she is in the pockets of Gulf Arab theocracies like Saudi Arabia and Qatar, which oppress and behead their own people and bankroll the medieval barbarism of ISIS, which rapes schoolgirls en masse and machine-guns schoolboys in ditches, destroys ancient monuments, and murders people in a thousand savage ways, from beheading to stoning to crucifixion to burning alive to throwing homosexuals off buildings.
  
  How do we know that Hillary Clinton is not for white working people? It is not just that she disdains them as “rednecks” and racists, and treats employees and working people like dirt. She also supports trade policies that destroy their jobs and communities — or what remains of them after decades of non-white immigration and racial integration, which Hillary also supports.
  
  How do we know that Hillary Clinton is not for the working class and middle class of any race? She is not for making the rich pay their “fair share,” because she is wholly owned by the rich, who have paid for her campaign and who dictate the job-killing, global plantation economic policies she supports
  
  I’ll repeat my question from Saturday to the liberals out there – when Hillary is so obviously in the pockets of big business, a war-monger and all for trade policies that destroy the working class – what motivates the lefts atypical voter to actually tick the Clinton box – cognitive dissonance?
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:39am
  - tom hunter
    
    From my link….
    
    Julio Saucedo eats a generous-sized burrito in his minivan in Joliet [Illinois]. Forty-one and a father of four, he immigrated with his family 24 years ago from Mexico City. He’s smudged with grease from his mechanic’s job — hands, face, the jumpsuit with his name embroidered over one pocket and AJ’s Auto Sales over the other.
    
    The line for the taco stand has many people — young, old, white, black — waiting for lunch. Inside the restaurant, families fill the booths. The staff is efficient, pleasant and too busy to talk politics. “America is good,” said the owner’s teenage daughter as she counted out change.
    
    Saucedo, who speaks in Spanish, feels blessed to live here: “The people of this country are beautiful. America is great. Every day I live that dream I could only imagine when I was in Mexico.
    
    “When you come to America, everyone is equal. You make of your life what you put into it. No one should feel entitled; no one should feel discouraged. You get up, you work, you come home to your family.”
    
    He supports Clinton but believes whoever wins will keep America strong: “I do not believe we are falling apart. Yes, this election has been tough, but no matter who wins, I believe we will all come together.”
    
    Multi-ethnic, working America in a nutshell – rather than inbred Aryans in other words. No wonder the Nazi’s always lose.
    
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    November 8, 2016 8:52am
    - EAD
      
      Multi-ethnic, working America in a nutshell
      
      Note the emphasis TH. You’re globalist rag New York Post selects one individual who fits the image they want ordinary Americans to believe is the average Latino Clinton supporter and then dupes like yourself proclaim “Trump and his supporters are racist as all these Latinos are hard working burrito sellers exactly like Julio Saucedo”.
      
      How about The NY Daily visits a La Raza rally or Black Lives Matter so called “protest” or downtown LA/Chicago/Detroit etc. or get a glimpse of the crime-ridden life on the Mexican border in America where all of your “Dreamers” cross the Rio Grande?
      
      Perhaps then he (and you) can then tell us about life in multi-ethnic, “working” America or have the MSM gone silent about all of this over the past 2 months in the lead up to the election?
      
      America has been conned twice now by bullsh*t “hope and change” rhetoric, too many have to deal with actual reality.
      
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      November 8, 2016 9:19am
      - tom hunter
        
        Oh, I was focusing on those pieces of racist shit long before you turned up. I’ve tried to explain that this sort of Left-wing identity politics will create a mirror-image among white people getting demonised by these groups.
        
        And here you are!
        
        But you’re simply their mirror image, and inbred white warriors won’t fix it, solve it or help it.
        
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        November 8, 2016 9:23am
      - EAD
        
        Reverting to personal attacks Tom Hunter – have you got anything to actually offer in debate bar the same tired old memes?
        
        You’re like the MSM and their selective use of statistics that reinforce the prejudices they want shouty types like you to have.
        
        Your “Trumps supporters are mainly low educated white males” is a classic. The MSM of course never ever mention that an even higher % of even lower educated males of other races support Hillary (dat be waycist).
        
        The other thing they also never mention is that Trump is winning over working nuclear families at a rate of 4:1. Perhaps people with more of a vested interest in the future of America don’t like seeing what is going on up and down their country. It’s easy being a shouty liberal or a welfare queen and think just about your own vanity/pay check from the govt. It’s only when you have to think about what kind of world you want your children to grown up in, does reality rather bite.
        
        “If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain“
        
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        November 8, 2016 9:44am
      - mikenmild
        
        You might be right about people being more conservative as they age, EAD. Both Democrats and Republicans are conservative parties.
        At what age did you become a fervent Nazi?
        
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        November 8, 2016 10:02am
      - tom hunter
        
        You’re quite right about the personal attacks I’m making on you – but that’s because I don’t believe that Nazi scumbags like you deserve much more than that. Did you think I was only joking when I made my crack about not pissing on you were I to find you burning alive in a ditch?
        
        “Engage” on “issues” of race purity? I’d just as sooner lock you in a room with Hone Harawera and Al Sharpton – with a knife each.
        
        But in case you’d not noticed, White Supremacist nutters like you form only a small part of the Trump voting group – although it is in both the interests of low IQ Democrat-Hillary partisans like Stephieboi, and low IQ Nazi’s like yourself to claim the opposite.
        
        The old adage about Baptists and Bootleggers applies.
        
        And I said nothing about low education: I was aiming specifically at you and yours as pieces of excrement.
        
        In any case, I am as aware as you are about the education levels of Trump supporters. And there were any numbers of educated Nazis, starting with Martin Heidegger.
        
        Which only goes to show the truth about being credentialed rather than educated – which, funnily enough, is yet another example of how you’ve imbibed a Leftist fetish and vomited forth its mirror image. Or to put it another way, there are plenty of smart, uneducated white people who are well aware that Nazis are full of shit. I know that tiny bands of fanatics like you are hoping to capitalise on current problems – just like the few remaining Communists and Anarchists – but you’ll fail as before.
        
        Because you’re not even close to being smart in all the ways that count.
        
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        November 8, 2016 10:03am
      - EAD
        
        Go on Tom, tell us what you really think 🙂
        
        Any other words and phrases you you want to ascribe to me in another of your brainfarts?
        
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        November 8, 2016 10:19am
      - tom hunter
        
        Pathetic boyfriends
        
        You’re in that photo somewhere, surely? Or are you the group’s gimp?
        
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        November 8, 2016 10:33am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ EAD
        
        Go on Tom, tell us what you really think ?
        
        Any other words and phrases you you want to ascribe to me in another of your brainfarts?
        
        Considering tom hunter’s got your number and a reply to your Nazi racial-purity shit is better than you deserve…you should be more grateful someone else in the playground is willing to give you their time. I flushed you in my mind to float with the other turds months ago.
        
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        November 8, 2016 10:38am
      - Morrissey
        
        Black Lives Matter so called “protest”
        
        So what were they doing if not protesting? Do you think they have nothing to protest about?
        
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        November 8, 2016 10:57am
      - SPC
        
        EAD, half the voters in working families are women (shy Clinton voters) and some of them are Latino/Hispanic (many identify by their country of origin – Mexican Americans etc).
        
        Trump only dominates in the white man living alone households – loud on the net and at rallies only.
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:22pm
  - Reid
    
    I’ll repeat my question from Saturday to the liberals out there – when Hillary is so obviously in the pockets of big business, a war-monger and all for trade policies that destroy the working class – what motivates the lefts atypical voter to actually tick the Clinton box – cognitive dissonance?
    
    Almost certainly. I read a survey awhile ago that found 43% of those who most strongly trust the media are dems. Repubs it was around 12%.
    
    They tied it back to old school thinking, looking at America and the media and politics as it used to be not as all those currently are.
    
    People have a hell of a lot personally invested in one’s worldview. It’s what gives you your confidence in thinking, getting that right, means you can take on most problems.
    
    I see very strongly amongst people who work in or closely with a system, an unwillingness to accept, when massive flaws arise, the system’s full and provable culpability. Rather they rationalise, justify, ignore or conceal sometimes from themselves that which paints their beloved system as flawed, let alone fundamentally as we’re all witnessing in the US.
    
    This is why IMO, such people will be amongst the very last people to accept the full extent of the ramifications arising from the investigations in train.
    
    There is nothing so vigourously defended as a vested interest disguised as an intellectual conviction is a truism I’ve observed play out for decades across individuals and groups and parties and nations and this is the dynamic at play here.
    
    However the twist with your question is the vested interest isn’t material it’s emotional. It’s an individual’s entire worldview, with self-worth at stake. How much is an individual going to a) resist b) ignore data that threatens his or her sense of that?
    
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    November 8, 2016 6:09pm
    - mikenmild
      
      It’s quite ironic that in your last paragraph you quite accurately describe your own affliction – ignoring data that does not fit with your world view.
      
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      November 8, 2016 6:19pm
      - Reid
        
        I think that might be you mm. Although you probably don’t recognise yourself doing it, poor thing.
        
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        November 8, 2016 7:36pm
      - mikenmild
        
        It’s classic Dunning-Kruger effect – over-estimating your own intelligence and judgement.
        Conversely, people who are actually intelligent and well-informed people tend to be less certain in their judgement. That’s one reason why blowhards like Trump can actually be quite persuasive – when someone sounds so confident and certain, it’s easier to trust them.
        
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        November 8, 2016 7:51pm
    - EAD
      
      I’ll repeat my question from Saturday to the liberals out there – when Hillary is so obviously in the pockets of big business, a war-monger and all for trade policies that destroy the working class – what motivates the lefts atypical voter to actually tick the Clinton box – cognitive dissonance?
      
      Notice Reid how I go straight to the heart of the lefties moral bankruptness in supporting Hillary, exposing them for what they really are. They have no answer so back they come with the usual Nazi/Racist/Sexist/Bigot nonsense they reply with when they get shown up for what they are again,
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      November 8, 2016 8:19pm
Happychappy

Has Andrew Little announced yet that he and Annette will enter the mine to bring back evidence to help bring charges again’st John Key and the National Party
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November 8, 2016 8:10am
- Gabby
  
  He needs a crappy little yellow canary chappy to go in first.
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:01pm
sooty

So Twyford #briefed Vance#. Has he done a Dunny?
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November 8, 2016 8:16am
- holysheet
  
  Vance is Twitfords bitch.
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:37am
- sam green
  
  Much like Key has “briefed Parata”.
  
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  November 8, 2016 2:09pm
billmurray

The end is nigh, Hillary Clinton for President,

Hip Hip Hooray.
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November 8, 2016 8:16am
- holysheet
  
  The end is nigh, Donald Trump for President
  there fixed it for you
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:19am
  - billmurray
    
    Wanna bet?. $100 on Hillary for me.
    
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    November 8, 2016 8:22am
    - stephieboy
      
      bill murry . I wouldn’t be that cocky . There are a number of variables that could affect the outcome either way. They include ,
      
      1 Suppressed voter turnout . Non-voting due to disillusionment with both candidates or opting for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein . This could hurt Clinton more than Trump .
      
      2. Polls confounded by those who respond by saying they will vote for Clinton but instead vote for Trump. ( Too diffident to express their true intent ) .
      
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      November 8, 2016 2:20pm
oldpark

Yesterday i thought the FBI Comey was Americas “coward of the county” who was making up stories and lying to his back teeth. Now we find NZ has a coward of the county,and a clown as well.A Lie-bour Party guy, who was the architect of the purge against people in NZ with Chinese sounding names. Phil Twyford is the name ,he has been putting the boot into journalists. Seems they didn,t dance his tune or is it lies,on so called employing unemployed youths to do nothing. Also seems he has been using the ex News of the World employee Andrea Vance who mysteriously got employed with TVNZ. For some reason or other red Andrea reported the truth,about Twyfords lies,now he is looking for some sort of a mea culpa or apology,from her and another red journalist from NZ.Herald. Twyford really is the coward/clown of NZ.
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November 8, 2016 8:18am
- Happychappy
  
  Don’t you find it funny a year out from a election and Andrea wants to be in the limelight again just like the Peter Dunn saga so turns on Labour to get her name high lighted again
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:28am
artemisia

Rheumatic fever rates fail to fall in central Auckland, Waitemata – article in the Herald today.

Rheumatic fever is usually a very very large lifetime drain on the health budget. The solution usually offered is to stop overcrowded housing, and / or have schools monitor sore throats and may follow up with antibiotics.

But there is a very effective NZ developed probiotic, very palatable for children, which would cost a truckload less than the current cost of sore throat / rheumatic fever reduction even if given to every school child in the country. It has been given GRAS status by the FDA. Simple to administer. Is it being looked at? If not, why not? (And nope, I don’t work for them.)

Driven by desperation to find a solution to outbreaks of Group A Strep throat, a precursor to rheumatic fever, Eastern Bay of Plenty doctors have turned to a probiotic treatment originally developed at Otago University.

A Bay of Plenty-based research group carried out a field trial involving school children in Kawerau who had a history of Group A Strep sore throats. The children shown to have Group A Strep sore throats were treated with antibiotics, however, where there were concerns about the recurrence of Group A Strep, the antibiotics were followed up with the probiotic Streptococcus salivarius BLIS K12. The doctors found that recurrences of Group A Strep sore throat were significantly decreased when BLIS K12 was used. Of the children whose health was causing most concern due to recurrent Group A Strep throat, 61% had no further sore throats during the study period.

Another study by the same research group involved school pupils in Whakatane. All consenting children were given BLIS K12 regardless of their Group A Strep status. The Group A Strep carriage rate was then monitored to see if the proportion of the children carrying Group A Strep decreased after BLIS K12. The children received antibiotics in addition to their BLIS K12 if they returned a positive swab.

Results showed that ‘BLIS for all’ in addition to antibiotic treatment for those returning positive swabs had a significant effect on reducing the proportion of children carrying Group A Strep.

http://www.pharmacytoday.co.nz/media-releases/2016/february-2016/02/positive-signs-in-search-to-solve-rheumatic-fever-and-group-a-strep-throat.aspx

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11743776
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November 8, 2016 8:30am
straya

Don’t let the dream die Trumpkins!

You got this!
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November 8, 2016 8:30am
- ross411
  
  Don’t move! You’ve got something on your leg. I think it’s Hillary’s bony claw..
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:29am
holysheet

It’s happened again. “The Families” want Solid Energy to reopen the mine and get the bodies out.

Why, they know were they are, its a safe place for them. They can be visited there whenever they want.
It like a cemetery, only deeper underground.
Let them stay there and not endanger any more lives trying to get them out.
And tell that Monk prick to STFU.
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November 8, 2016 8:31am
- Rich Prick
  
  At the risk of sounding callous, I’ve heard enough from The Families. The thing burned at 700 degrees for days, the odds of finding any remains inside are about zero.
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:59am
  - Paulus
    
    As I understand it the “families’ have each been given / awarded well over $1,000,000 each since the accident.
    Can this please be disputed ?
    
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    November 8, 2016 1:29pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Insurance policy proceeds, if memory serves.
      
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      November 8, 2016 2:25pm
  - Reid
    
    What if it was your child, son, brother, father, husband?
    
    Frankly I’d move heaven and earth and it wouldn’t matter to me if there’s only ashes left, it’s their ashes and pathetic as it may seem, that’s all I have left of them.
    
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    November 8, 2016 6:14pm
- Jack5
  
  The Holyshit (8.31 post) says of the entombed miners’ bodies:
  
  They can be visited there whenever they want.
  
  You really think that families visiting the site of the mine where their men died so brutally could be soothing?
  
  The only other person I’ve known to attack the grieving Bernie Monk was Whale. You’re not part of his team are you? Tough Aucklanders? Pah!
  
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  November 8, 2016 10:38am
  - rangitoto
    
    It’s not the only mine where bodies haven’t been recovered. Time to move on.
    
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    November 8, 2016 12:36pm
    - Jack5
      
      That may be. But I hope you don’t concur with Holyshit’s sentiments and empathy in his:
      
      …tell that Monk prick to STFU
      
      Which other New Zealand mines are you thinking of, Rangitoto, and when did the disasters occur?
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:53pm
      - sam green
        
        There are a couple of people interned in the Strongman mine – 1967.
        
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        November 8, 2016 2:35pm
      - Jack5
        
        Thank you Sam (12.53 post).
        
        I see they brought out 17 of the 19 bodies of the Strongman miners.
        
        It’s not the fact that Holyshit comments it’s time for the families to move on that annoys me. It’s the way he speaks about Bernie Monk, whose son, Michael, was killed in the mine disaster. Monk, as spokesman and focus for the victims’ families, will have found it harder to move on than most of the others.
        
        In the article I read today, all Mr Monk seems to be saying is that maybe it’s now safe to re-enter the main drive.
        
        I doubt that it will ever be feasible to re-enter this mine, but that’s a grieving father’s hope.
        
        I would never speak of Bernie Monk the way that Holyshit has here. IMHO, Holyshit’s words are among the more despicable that I’ve read on Kiwiblog. Here they are:
        
        … tell that Monk prick to STFU.
        
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        November 8, 2016 3:12pm
      - sam green
        
        so stop repeating them – and yes – they are callous and unthinking
        
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        November 8, 2016 4:14pm
      - Jack5
        
        Okay, Sam Green.
        
        But “callous and unthinking”?
        
        That’s mealy-mouthed. Holyshit’s words are despicable.
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:09pm
Huevon

Another day, another story of an immigrant owned business prosecuted for breaching minimum wage laws (this time an Indian – surprise, surprise – liquor store in Christchurch). These are the highly skilled imports who will save our economy, this is the diversity dividend, long live the multicultural society!
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November 8, 2016 8:33am
tom hunter

So the latest batch of Wikileaks emails reveals further collusion between the Democrats and CNN.

It seems that the Democrat National Committee (DNC) was feeding questions they wanted asked of GOP candidates, to the likes of CNN host, Wolf Blitzer for his interviews (and other CNN hosts as well). So it was not just their connections with DNC head, Donna Brazile: it’s across the board.

Die, MSM. Die.
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November 8, 2016 8:36am
- stephieboy
  
  Nevertheless, CNN gave a full and fair account of the recent email saga 1st November here ,
  
  http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/31/politics/clinton-email-fbi-investigation/
  
  A balanced account unlike the recent false claim by right media that the President was encouraging illegal undocumented immigrants to go out and vote regardless of the consequences
  
  Die Right media Die
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:52am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Meanwhile, Breitbart hits 37 million unique visitors in October alone
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/11/07/breitbart-news-hits-record-240-million-pageviews-37-million-uniques-in-october/
    
    Oh, and their coverage of Obama’s comments was fair in that they reported he was encouraging legal Hispanics to vote for those who couldn’t…
    
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    November 8, 2016 10:19am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Tom,
  
  Anything that comes from Wikileaks is tainted. See East-West SpyWar Heats Up With Arrest of Russian Hacker in Prague.
  
  Also, the author is not pro-Hillary, as evidenced by his latest: Media Bites on Trump’s Kremlin Ties, But Clinton’s Are Long-Standing and Deep.
  
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  November 8, 2016 4:11pm
  - tom hunter
    
    @Lucia
    I think I linked to that first one a few weeks ago. Apparently the guy’s girlfriend fainted at the hotel dining table when the police pounced?
    
    Have not read your second link, but again, I’m fairly well aware of Hillary’s links with Russia. Likely all part of her and Obama’s 2009 “reset” bullshit.
    
    So I’ve had no doubt about the connections, and Assange is an anti-American piece of shit, with no better evidence than his comments to reporters several years ago, that he could not care less if his leaks cost the lives of Afghanis or Iraqis working with the US to hunt down Al Queda and others. Yet I’ve seen him referred to as a CIA plant, but I don’t know that I want to see the contorted explanations behind that claim.
    
    However, much as the hackers and their backers might like to forge emails, it gets rather difficult to capture not just the idioms of English in this setting, but the manner in which Hillary’s staff talk to one another.
    
    No. Those emails from her campaign staff are real. After some initial sqawks in defiance the Clinton campaign has shrugged its shoulders and accepted that they can’t spin this one. And even the most partisan of Democrat journalists have accepted that they’re real as well.
    
    To put it concisely: Wikileaks didn’t write those emails and the unvarnished, ugly truths that lie within. The Clinton campaign senior staffers did.
    
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    November 8, 2016 4:22pm
SPC

It’s become sort of clear now.

Clinton will in, but Republicans have Congress – Democrats fall short 49-51 in the Senate.

A neutered Clinton achieves little on domestic policy without becoming a puppet …

1. who decides the SC Justice appointment – does Congress propose and if Clinton accepts she is not impeached – oh those DC deals
2. what will they ask for to give her Obamacare improvements, surely not no veto on funding cuts for women medical care
3. what do they ask in return for more money on affordable “college” education, betraying teachers unions ….
4. does she build a wall and agree to removals of some to get a path for residence for others

and holds the status quo on foreign policy, maybe even trade (TPP in the recess now about 1 in 3 chance).
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November 8, 2016 8:41am
- mikenmild
  
  It also seems clear that without a majority in the Senate, Clinton will be unable to seat any new justices on the Supreme Court, and the GOP will quite possibly block any judicial appointments she makes.
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:45am
Ross12

It looks like Bill Clinton doesn’t like Obama. First he says Obamacare is a disaster and now we find out that in a speech at a DNC fund raiser he says working class white workers have been left behind over the last 8 years ( isn’t that sort of agreeing with Trump ?)

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/07/leaked-bill-clinton-speech-obama-years-left-no-hope-for-white-working-class/
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November 8, 2016 8:46am
- Paulus
  
  I understand that there is “considerable” personal dislike – a nice way of putting it, between the Clintons and the Obamas.
  Clintons have never forgiven being beaten at the last Clinton presidential election by a black man.
  Hillary’s language was not as I have used At the time comment was made calling them F…… Nig…. on the matter, and was the subject of serious comment at the time.
  Her language has not changed at the present time nor has her views of “Afro Americans” – particularly those in the military close to the White House Presidency – there will none in future as she cannot bear to see them.
  Nasty woman.
  
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  November 8, 2016 1:38pm
- SPC
  
  Bill is pure politician. He said that not all Americans and all regions of America had benefited from the growth of the 92-99 years (the MW was not increased in this time) – he did not do so to attack himself but to mobilise them to get behind Gore.
  
  He criticises Obamacare – and thus proposes Hillary as having a better plan, to improve it. And mentions the poor white workers this time to imply his wife will do better. In both cases – no need to vote for Trump then is his message.
  
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  November 8, 2016 5:04pm
Happychappy

Why is Duncan Garner used as the Mr Fixit Man when things go wrong on TV The Hub,why would you go back to the past and hire a person that is past his used by date as a Television Host if the story is correct that the Paul Henry show is about to be shelved at Xmas.
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November 8, 2016 8:52am
- Dave Mann
  
  I read that the PH Show isn’t going to be ‘shelved’ by TV3, but Henry has resigned, thus killing the show. It seems that Duncan Garner is going to give it a go because there’s really nobody else available.
  
  Its really sad to see TV3 gutting itself (and Radiolive too) because there are still some really good shows (7 Days for example and other comedy) on TV3. And they’ve killed Radiolive mornings by putting that idiot Sainsbury on to bore the crap out of the audience so they literally turn off.
  
  I think its probably the end of Mediaworks now ?
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:09am
Zed

Have you people seen this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iiywDVCPzwI
Obama effectively saying illegal aliens can vote without fear of deportation!

Even a die hard Obama supporter wouldn’t accept this, or would they?

Talk about rigged elections
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November 8, 2016 8:56am
- stephieboy
  
  In an interview aimed at a millennial audience, President Obama encouraged Latino citizens to vote. He did not urge undocumented immigrants to vote
  
  CLAIM: President Obama encouraged “illegal aliens” to vote and said there would be no consequences if they do.
  
  FALSE
  
  ORIGIN:In the final count down to the upcoming election on 8 November 2016, Fox News host Neil Cavuto expressed disbelief over what he claimed to be remarks by President Barack Obama that encouraged undocumented immigrants to vote illegally. Other conservative outlets soon followed suit, with the Gateway Pundit calling the comments “criminal”:
  
  The claim originates from an interview with Obama published on 3 November 2016, in which millennial actress Gina Rodriguez asked the president about a number of issues facing young Latinos. Many of the outrage posts were written around a video in which the majority of the president’s response was edited out to give the misleading impression that Obama was urging undocumented immigrants to vote illegally:
  
  In the full interview, it’s clear Obama is urging Latino citizens to vote in order to give voice to members of their community who are precluded from doing so by lack of citizenship, not urging non-citizens to vote illegally. Rodriguez’s question seems to be addressing a fear that voting will result in scrutiny on one’s family which could result in deportation of undocumented relatives:
  
  Actual transcript of what the President said is here ( Not what Fox , the Gateway Pundit etc imagined what he said )
  
  http://www.snopes.com/obama-encouraged-illegal-aliens-to-vote/
  
  Repeat he never stated that illegal aliens should go out and vote and no consequences if they did .!
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:30am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Explaining (your parallel universe) is losing.
    
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    November 8, 2016 10:02am
    - cmm
      
      Reason and logic are white male concepts. It is patriarchal to expect that of people.
      
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      November 8, 2016 10:21am
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    snopes is far from being a credible source.
    
    http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/obama-encourages-illegal-aliens-to-vote/
    
    Here he is even stepping it up a notch and allowing the interviewer to get away with calling them “undocumented citizens”.
    
    He even says “when you are voting you area a citizen”.
    
    Obama is supposed to be in charge of securing the sovereignty and borders of the country. This is his primary job as “Commander In Chief”. Here is is undermining all that.
    
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    November 8, 2016 10:20am
    - itstricky
      
      Snopes is far from credible but, hh, here’s a link from an American politically conservative news and opinion website
      
      You guys crack me up trading your whacky links back n forth from side 2 side.
      
      If stephie has the actual transcripts and those match up with the actual speech, then that’s pretty much about it, isn’t it?
      
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      November 8, 2016 11:08am
    - jonar
      
      Yeah, snopes is far from credible releasing the unedited interview that you can get the full facts from…
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:35pm
      - itstricky
        
        And last time I looked:
        
        citizen
        ˈsɪtɪz(ə)n/
        noun
        noun: citizen; plural noun: citizens
        
        a legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized.
        “a British citizen”
        
        I guess you can declare anything is true if you start redefining words.
        
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        November 8, 2016 12:54pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Almost certainly all ‘fact-checking’ sites/groups are now owned and operated by political groups, or are for sale on political issues. They are far too valuable as propaganda weapons to be able to retain independence from wealthy political campaigns.
      
      Wikileaks has shown a few up (like politifact)
      
      US alone has billions per year spent on political campaigning, spending orders of magnitude more than what low-value eyeball advertising revenue could bring to such sites.
      
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      November 8, 2016 4:29pm
- EAD
  
  WOW
  
  Telling illegal immigrant voters not to worry that they will be charged with a crime, because there is no way to trace them.
  
  And he & the MSM actually said that Donald Trump was a conspiracy theorist for claiming there would be voter fraud…..
  
  PS: I know we have reached peak Orwell when I see that interviewer calls all of the illegal immigrants “dreamers”. May I cheekily suggest to her it is probably because the lazy sods sleep all day.
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:51am
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    EAD , the President never said illegal aliens should go out and vote and stating that there would be no consequences if they did so !
    
    Full transcript of interview here ,
    
    RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?
    
    OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.
    
    RODRIGUEZ: This has been a huge fear presented especially during this election.
    
    OBAMA: And the reason that fear is promoted is because they don’t want people voting. People are discouraged from voting and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you’re not just speaking for yourself. You’re speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school…
    
    RODRIGUEZ: Your entire community.
    
    OBAMA: … who may not have a voice. Who can’t legally vote. But they’re counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.
    
    It is obvious he is addressing Latino Citizens ! Not illegal aliens !
    
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    November 8, 2016 9:55am
    - cmm
      
      No he is addressing what this interviewer calls “undocumented citizens”.
      
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      November 8, 2016 10:23am
      - Rich Prick
        
        ie, illegals. Type slowly, stephie is a bit special.
        
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        November 8, 2016 10:28am
      - itstricky
        
        How the F* do you get that out of:
        
        Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself
        
        Are you reading something different to me?
        
        Because the interviewer skews his definition of ‘citizen’? Did he not just get corrected?
        
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        November 8, 2016 11:13am
      - SPC
        
        Ya just cannot trust any man of colour eh cmm.
        
        Only us folks know what they mean and the need for white man’s rule.
        
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        November 8, 2016 5:07pm
      - Gabby
        
        Who can’t legally vote. But they’re counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard
        
        Jesus can you really not follow that? How thick are you?
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:15pm
- Gabby
  
  Talk about edited bullshit.
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:12pm
Viking2

Today’s headlines.

Mediaworks have denied the rumours today, a spokesman saying “we don’t comment on speculation”

Obviously they don’t read/listen/watch to their own networks.

Has to be this years biggest lie.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/86200800/Paul-Henry-was-out-the-door-before-he-let-rip-former-Mediaworks-news-chief-says

😆 oh the irony.
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November 8, 2016 9:00am
tom hunter

Your humour for the day: what happens when you share a name with a Presidential candidate.

I like the part where medical oncologist, Donald Trump, tries to book a room at a Trump Hotel.
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November 8, 2016 9:07am
Nookin

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/have-you-ever-been-embarrassed-to-call-yourself-a-kiwi/16436022/Kiwis-are-cringeworthy-and-I-m-embarrassed

Jenn Slater and I agree. I am also embarrassed she is a kiwi.

Maybe she could go to Saudi Arabia, Syria, or a multitude of other countries where they do not play rugby, do not drink alcohol, and do not offend the prissy sensitivities of the puritanical.
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November 8, 2016 9:07am
- cmm
  
  Yup feeling ashamed for being Kiwi seems to be a very disabling kiwi trait.
  
  The Poms are self deprecating – but not really embarrassed for being Poms.
  
  The Americans are, well, Americans.
  
  Why aren’t we allowed to feel comfortable in our own skins?
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:47am
Manolo

The stock market and the candidates:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/07/market-predictions-sp-500-to-sell-off-if-donald-trump-tops-clinton-and-more-from-wall-street.html

As the historic 2016 U.S. presidential election approaches, major Wall Street analysts agree that the S&P 500 will likely sell off if Donald Trump wins, and at least hold gains if Hillary Clinton wins.
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November 8, 2016 9:11am
- ross411
  
  Yes, like how England collapsed and is now filled with savages fighting for crumbs, after the leave brexit vote won. The most damage comes from the “if you don’t do what we say” prognostications from the “experts with no agenda”.
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:50am
Sir Leslie Bottocks

This is awful. Hillary supporters attack homeless black woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJV41gS2c8M
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November 8, 2016 9:37am
- Rich Prick
  
  Ah yes, that peace, tolerance and diversity the left claim to champion so often. I guess that is #BlackLivesMatter in action.
  
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  November 8, 2016 10:31am
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86205315/fraudster-wins-jail-sentence-appeal-because-of-impact-on-her-young-children

If you really love your kids you should have thought of that BEFORE committing the crime.
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November 8, 2016 9:42am
- Gabby
  
  Lucky she didn’t have cancer or a brown sounding surname.
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:20pm
Andrei

USA politics as it oughta be
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November 8, 2016 10:17am
Stars And Stripes

NZ Guesthouse For Vegans Only
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/destinations/nz/86167307/marlborough-medium-offers-lodgings-alongside-alternative-living.
“Rebecca O’Sullivan has the ideal room for tourists looking for lodgings where they can retune their spiritual frequency.
However, leasing a single room in her Tuamarina home, 15 minutes from Blenheim, requires guests to eat vegan and relinquish television.
O’Sullivan charged $49 a night, on top of a $20 cleaning fee. The room was complete with a salt lamp to purify the energy, she said”

Another one for GoVege, this time a holiday idea.
Must say that salt lamp for purified energy is a big attraction.
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November 8, 2016 10:34am
- Rich Prick
  
  on top of a $20 cleaning fee
  
  A vegan diet does serriously mess with one’s system.
  
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  November 8, 2016 10:57am
Fletch

Matt Walsh predicts the fawning media response tomorrow if Hillary wins and goes on to explain how it will not really be a win for women.

I’m anticipating all of the fawning absurdities that will be spewed forth by the media should Hillary win on Tuesday. “History has been made!” “A historic day for women!” “The glass ceiling is broken!” “This is a victory for all women!”

And on and on.

That’s why I think this must be said now again, finally, once and for all: a Hillary Clinton victory will not be a victory for women. It will be a victory for the Democrats, for liberal elites, for the multiple foreign governments who’ve hacked her emails, for Wall Street bankers, for the media, for whoever stitches together her sci-fi pantsuits, for fans of spirit cooking, for her SNL impersonator; it will be a victory for all sorts of nefarious people, none more so than Hillary herself, but the average American woman will lose as much from her reign as we unevolved men.

But more than anything or anyone else, a Hillary Clinton victory will be a victory for corruption. The most corrupt and distrusted nominee in the history of the country will have ascended all the way to the pinnacle of power, proving not that the American people are progressive forward thinkers, but that we have a virtually unlimited tolerance for tyranny and corruption

I, for one, would never defame women in such a way as to make Hillary Rodham Clinton into their crowning achievement. Indeed, calling Hillary’s potential presidency a triumph for women is like calling Anthony Weiner’s career a triumph for Jews. Neither the Jewish people nor the women of America deserve to be defined by the most pitiful and degenerate among them.

[D]espite her being potentially the first woman president, she rose to that position precisely by renouncing all of the beautiful and admirable characteristics of womanhood.

Just as men are meant to be strong, protective, and courageous, women are meant to be kind, gracious, compassionate, upright, and honest. Hillary Clinton demonstrates none of these virtues. It’s not accurate to say that she “acts like a man” because she repudiates her womanhood, but rather that she acts like a shallow, empty husk of a human being whose only motivation is her self-serving lust for power. In this way, she is neither a worthy example for women or an accurate example of them. She is an example of greed and corruption, and greed and corruption have no gender.

Now, if Hillary Clinton had risen to this lofty state by being an honorable woman, a woman of feminine virtue, a woman of grace and moral strength, a woman much like all of the great women I’ve known in my life or read about in history books and Scripture, then it would be true that her victory could be seen as a victory for women, in a sense. Or maybe it would be more true to say that it’s a victory for womanness and femininity. But that is not the case, sadly.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/a-clinton-win-wont-be-a-victory-for-women-but-a-victory-for-corruption/
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November 8, 2016 10:49am
- Manolo
  
  It would a triumph for the Clinton mafia, an organisation with long tentacles and rightful owner of countless hacks passing as journalists.
  
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  November 8, 2016 11:49am
wiseowl

Rapt to see challenge to Rotorua Mayoralty result.

When i first saw the result I could not believe Stevie had won again.
Now watch the scramble to hide.
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November 8, 2016 10:50am
Morrissey

Nick Farr-Jones foolishly made a point of supporting a racist in 2003;
Now there are more doubts about his sense of judgement and decency.

After NewstalkZB morning host Paul Holmes embarked on his infamous extended “cheeky darkie” rant in 2003 [1] he instantly became a reviled, toxic product. Several of his production staff refused to work for him again, and both TVNZ and NewstalkZB were besieged with angry listeners calling for him to be sacked immediately. Toyota dropped its sponsorship of his TV program. The disgust was not confined to New Zealand—Germaine Greer, amongst other luminaries, explicitly condemned him. The furore got worse and worse but Holmes refused to do the honorable thing and resign. It ended not with his dismissal, but with his delivering a limp and transparently insincere “apology” on Television One a week later: “You KNOW me. I am a GOOD man….”

As always, however, there were exceptions. Two former rugby stars decided, perversely, to stage demonstrations of support for Holmes. First, the professional lout and would-be funnyman Marc Ellis made the decision to have his orange juice company Charlie’s pick up the vacated TV sponsorship. That wasn’t entirely a surprise: Ellis was a shameless supporter of the National Party and had himself been embroiled in several foolish and distasteful controversies, though nothing as vicious as Holmes’s racist tirade.

But a short while after that, Holmes interviewed the ex-Wallaby halfback Nick Farr-Jones about some football match. Most people would have rated Farr-Jones as a superior character to Marc Ellis: he’s educated, well spoken and had not forged a post-football career of offensive, imbecilic pranks. Whatever Farr-Jones had to say about the match was neither here nor there; what viewers could not ignore was Farr-Jones’s display of solicitude and empathy for the beleaguered Holmes. He beamed down the camera and said, “Yes, MISTER HOLMES,” then flashed a conspiratorial grin. Holmes, enormously grateful, grinned back at him, his beaming mien the polar opposite of the expression he would employ when talking to, and about, insalubrious creatures like the “darkies” he so despised.

That exchange raised some troubling questions not only about Farr-Jones’s character, but about his judgement. I was not surprised, therefore, to see that he has gotten himself into some real trouble now….

Ex-Wallabies Nick Farr-Jones, Jim Williams and Bruce Worboys
caught up in Learn Earn Legend loan controversy
by GEORGINA ROBINSON, Sydney Morning Herald, 7 November 2016

Former NSW Rugby Union chairman Nick Farr-Jones authorised the use of $56,000 in funds earmarked for Indigenous education to make a secret mortgage payment on behalf of former Wallaby Jim Williams.

The loan, made in August last year using money allocated to the federal government-funded Learn Earn Legend program run by NSWRU and co-ordinated by Williams, was made without the approval or knowledge of the NSWRU board or the Learn Earn Legend advisory committee, and was not repaid until March this year.

Farr-Jones and then-NSWRU executive director Bruce Worboys say they organised the loan after Williams confronted them in severe financial stress over the mortgage on his three-bedroom home in Allawah. The trio kept the $56,000 transaction secret for more than six months until the NSWRU finance department discovered the anomaly and raised the matter with Worboys.

A spokesman from the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet, which is responsible for Learn Earn Legend-branded programs, said it was investigating the circumstances surrounding the loan and the program’s administration.

“The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet is aware of alleged issues relating to funding provided to the NSWRU,” the spokesman said in a written statement.

“The department takes all allegations involving … serious non-compliance with the terms and conditions of its funding agreements seriously. As the matter is under assessment further comment cannot be made at this time.”

A NSWRU official said the money was not “linked to, or paid from, the Learn Earn Legend program”. This appears at odds with Farr-Jones’ account of the transaction which, he said, was arranged at haste when an “emotionally beaten up” Williams confronted Worboys at NSWRU headquarters in Moore Park on August 21 last year. …..

Read more self-serving flannel from Farr-Jones and his crony Bruce Worboys…
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/exwallabies-nick-farrjones-jim-williams-and-bruce-worboys-caught-up-in-learn-earn-legend-loan-controversy-20161103-gsgz0w.html

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNdk7Hsj_R0
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November 8, 2016 10:51am
- Kimbo
  
  From Paul Holmes to Marc Ellis to the National Party to Nick Farr-Jones, with suitable virtue-signalling condemnation from the misanthropic Germaine Greer. Was she toothlessly cackling and knitting at the foot of the guillotine gibbet when she issued it? You certainly have that guilt-by-association thing working well.
  
  And I note that in comparison to this list of notables, who have a collective multiplicity of laurels at the highest levels of sport, academia, broadcasting and business, Morrissey Breen has achieved pretty much…nothing of note in public life. Wonder what it must be like for these guys to be gummed by a toothless chihuahua?
  
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  November 8, 2016 11:04am
  - Morrissey
    
    this list of notables, who have a collective multiplicity of laurels at the highest levels of sport, academia, broadcasting and business…
    
    The only one of that “list of notables” who fits your extravagant description is Farr-Jones. Ellis, although brilliant for Otago, was never anything more than an understudy for the All Blacks, and as for Holmes, the less said the better.
    
    As for your attempt at insulting me: well, we can see how seriously to take you by looking at your comments about Germaine Greer.
    
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    November 8, 2016 4:29pm
Sir Leslie Bottocks

Why do lesbians fake so many hate crimes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neBnFaOy2Jg
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November 8, 2016 10:51am
- Morrissey
  
  Congratulations, Sir Leslie—I think that was the funniest sentence of the year!
  
  http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zjOHzZqA3cs/UtvFySxwPuI/AAAAAAAAEg8/YQXO2DVSG-4/s1190/FINAL+SMOOTH+FONT+LOGO_final.png
  
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  November 8, 2016 11:00am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    That’s not funny, THIS is funny:
    
    Florida Lesbian Assaults Partner With Dildo in Front of Police
    
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/14/florida-lesbian-assaults-partner-with-sex-toy-in-front-of-police/
    
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    November 8, 2016 12:08pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      I wonder whether it’s a love crime when they do it to themselves?
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:20pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Speaking of nonces having dildos thrown at them, cast your minds back to early this year, when mischief-making liberals sent these violent morons hundreds of dildos, much to their incoherent, whining anger….
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltpJXLiYVBU
        
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        November 8, 2016 4:13pm
    - Morrissey
      
      That IS kind of funny, JHM. In this country dildos are not thrown much at lesbians, as far as I know—but they ARE often thrown at complete nonces…
      
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/content/dam/images/news/2016/02/05/it-was-a-little-bit-humorous-steven-joyce-on-dildo-attack.png.hashed.76dd8d97.desktop.story.inline.jpg
      
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      November 8, 2016 3:45pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Because they are mentally ill.
  
  I’ve met a quite a few over the years – all of them in tempestuous on again off again “relationships” with one or multiple partners.
  
  All had addiction problems.
  
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  November 8, 2016 12:07pm
  - sam green
    
    Jazzy – I think that closet you are in is getting a bit small.
    
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    November 8, 2016 2:40pm
  - Gabby
    
    Jist keep your jizz hands off the lisbians.
    
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    November 8, 2016 6:26pm
Scott

IBD poll has Trump up by 2, LA Times has Trump up by 5 and Rasmussen has Hillary up by 2. It’s very close in the polls.
I believe the polls have been rigged in many cases for Clinton. The msm wants that and wiki leaks shows the DNC wanted to do that. So I believe there has been collusion between the DNC and the msm to rig the polls.
I believe that there are shy Trumpsters who will not state their choice to a pollster but in the privacy of the election booth will vote Trump.
Enthusiasm is for Trump and not for Clinton. The size and enthusiasm of the rallies do not compare.
So Trump by a margin. A really big margin.
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November 8, 2016 10:55am
cmm

Juniour doctors striking: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/86205845/junior-doctors-to-strike-again

Is this proof that women can’t cut it? In the old days when most Junior Doctors were male there weren’t strikes. The long hours were seen as part of the rite of passage.

Now most doctors are female and they feel they need an easy time…
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November 8, 2016 11:06am
- itstricky
  
  (a) What evidence? It’s only the females striking?
  (b) Females shouldn’t be doctors? Far out, man. Sling ya hook back to the 50s
  
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  November 8, 2016 11:17am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “Sling ya hook back to the 50s”
    
    You mean the time before high crime rates, massive divorce rates, solo mother households and AIDS?
    
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    November 8, 2016 12:15pm
    - itstricky
      
      Clearly that is the fault of female doctors.
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:33pm
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        Clearly it is not the fault of conservatives, so who does that leave…
        
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        November 8, 2016 3:10pm
      - sam green
        
        Its the fault of the lesbians – they really are that powerful.
        
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        November 8, 2016 4:25pm
Don the Kiwi

Are you comin’ on the train? – the Trump Train?

https://mundabor.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/lets-meet-on-the-trump-train/
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November 8, 2016 11:06am
Stars And Stripes

‘A lot more money’ needed to fix long term housing
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/317535/'a-lot-more-money'-needed-to-fix-long-term-housing.
“A surprise $300 million cash injection into emergency housing is not enough to fix the problem, housing groups say”.

As predictable as the sun rising in the morning the bludgers are already saying they need more money to fix the problem and $300 million is just not going to cut it.
Even if it was $1 billion it would never be enough for these spongers so why bother trying to appease them, just give them and all their client wasters nothing and forget about them.
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November 8, 2016 11:18am
starboard

Hoping this fine samoan scumbag rots in prison

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86210838/father-of-liquor-store-killer-jailed-for-appalling-abuse-of-young-relatives
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November 8, 2016 11:33am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Send them all back, we don’t need any of them.
  
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  November 8, 2016 11:49am
  - itstricky
    
    Don’t hold back now, tell us what you really think.
    
    Of course, starboard would have never written “this fine European scumbag”, if it had been that way.
    
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    November 8, 2016 12:08pm
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      Stop pretending Maoris and Islanders don’t have a huge violence issue.
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:10pm
      - itstricky
        
        Stop pretending all people of one race are “the same”
        
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        November 8, 2016 12:32pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Homosexual mestizo invader Matthew Rodriguez rejoices at the elimination of heterosexuals in the US:

“Queer Teens Are Now the Majority, Goodbye Straight People”

https://mic.com/articles/137713/queer-teens-are-now-the-majority-goodbye-straight-people#.oXhOI6Hc1

Progressives HATE straight white people, they want you dead and gone.

His bio:

“Mathew Rodriguez is a Staff Writer at Mic. He is a queer Latino New Yorker who enjoys female rappers, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Flannery O’Connor. He is a former editor at TheBody.com and he is working on a memoir about his father, HIV and heroin on New York City’s Lower East Side.”
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November 8, 2016 11:56am
- Morrissey
  
  Progressives HATE straight white people, they want you dead and gone.
  
  This kind of comment deserves only one response….
  
  https://pics.onsizzle.com/youre-a-damn-lunatic-without-your-coffee-and-you-and-1012237.png
  
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  November 9, 2016 9:31am
mandk

Stuff is reporting that the Parker fight will go ahead in Auckland.

Seems Duco didn’t need to put their hands into taxpayers’ and ratepayers’ pockets after all. Funny that.
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November 8, 2016 11:58am
- calendar girl
  
  Aucklanders, then taxpayers, then Auckland ratepayers again, were being taken for a ride by Duco all along.
  
  Why do politicians and ‘public servants’, at both national and local levels, ever believe that they have the commercial expertise to evaluate a commercial proposition for marketing the country, or a city? Invariably they are hopeless at it.
  
  Air NZ is one example of an outfit that knows how to market this country in a commercially-profitable way. It wasn’t always like that. But the airline emerged from its Government ownership, acquired and built up the necessary expertise, and – with the motivation of shareholder profit generation – began to draw attention to its own country and and its airline travel product.
  
  Politicians are simply not made for this. However, they always feel our ‘free’ money burning holes in their pockets or handbags.
  
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  November 8, 2016 4:46pm
starboard

Morning trendsetters..havin a great time on the GC. What a fantastic place. Heat, beaches, better trendsetters, marvelous. Massive difference on the tv..the presenters are stunning, no fatties, no lispers, no pc appointed talking heads trying to wrap their tongue around a stone age language..just stunning looking wimmin doin their thing. Fab.
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November 8, 2016 11:59am
- itstricky
  
  just stunning looking wimmin doin their thing
  
  Which is not Doctoring.
  
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  November 8, 2016 12:06pm
  - starboard
    
    Hey drippy..what, of substance, have you got to say about one of your relo’s as below? You’re always the great apologist for rabble.
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86210838/father-of-liquor-store-killer-jailed-for-appalling-abuse-of-young-relatives
    
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    November 8, 2016 12:18pm
    - starboard
      
      …yeah thought as much, just silence.
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:22pm
    - itstricky
      
      I think you’re confusing ‘apologist’ with ‘pointing out starboard is a xenophobe’
      
      Two completely different things, I think you’ll notice, if you read the words very carefully.
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:31pm
      - starboard
        
        you’re an idiot. ..seems like your corrections dept ankle bracelet is restricting blood flow to your small brain. Anyhoo…off to the beach for a swim and a looksy followed by a kebab and a crown lager. Ciao.
        
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        November 8, 2016 12:36pm
      - itstricky
        
        Weird how you disappear every time it gets to the point where you have to actually say something pointed.
        
        Good thing you pointed out the whole Crown thing. If you didn’t I might have thought you were just sitting in a cold old pensioner flat.
        
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        November 8, 2016 12:41pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Men are turned off sexually by career women – thats why so many feminists end up old lonely and childless with a cupboard full of cat food 🙁
    
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    November 8, 2016 12:21pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Women are turned off sexually by fuckwits – that’s why so many people like starboard end up lonely and cold in a pensioner flat…
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:30pm
      - starboard
        
        mm’s cracking and loosing it, he’s cussing big time…
        
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        November 8, 2016 12:32pm
      - itstricky
        
        It’s a warm pensioner flat, though. And it has a bit of sand in the door. And a helicopter pad.
        
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        November 8, 2016 12:37pm
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        “Women are turned off sexually by fuckwits”
        
        Women love Bad Boys.
        
        Fifty Shades Grey had throngs of excited women crowding movie theaters and raiding book shelves.
        
        Do you know ANYTHING about women mikenmild?
        
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        November 8, 2016 3:15pm
    - itstricky
      
      What’s wrong Jazzy, intimidated? Scared little boy?
      
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      November 8, 2016 12:40pm
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        I’m SO sorry, I seem to have trigger you.
        
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        November 8, 2016 3:17pm
    - sam green
      
      Is that why you have no job Jazz Hands? So you won’t scare the boys away? They are likely intimidated by that big brain of yours. Still – you can always simper when the need arises.
      
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      November 8, 2016 3:04pm
- sam green
  
  Stay by all means starboard – no really – stay.
  
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  November 8, 2016 2:58pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  The NVS are straight out with their shit coz nobody will pay for the ticket to the GC. Eat shit you jealous fuckwits.
  Go for it starboard, I envy you too, but not the way the fucktards do
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:31pm
Manolo

Regardless of who wins tomorrow Comey will be fired (and rightly so):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3911032/FBI-announces-not-change-decision-regarding-Hillary-Clinton-s-emails.html
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November 8, 2016 12:47pm
- All_on_Red
  
  They can’t fire him. But don’t worry. The Clinton Foundation investigation is still going on- by both the FBI and the IRS.
  
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  November 8, 2016 12:56pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  He has a choice, suicide or car accident. I would go with the accident for insurance means
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:36pm
Stars And Stripes

Andrew Little says ‘no’ to MP’s Standing Rock protest
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11744288.
“Labour MP Kelvin Davis asked his party’s leadership for permission to travel to North Dakota to support “Standing Rock” protests but was told there was too much work to do at home.
I said that it would be good to go to show we do empathise with the situation over there. But it’s just not to be”.

Well done to Andrew Little for once for stopping Davis going on another self promotion tour for another airy fairy cause.
Enough people with axes to grind poking their noses in already without another one in the form of Davis.
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November 8, 2016 12:55pm
- Kimbo
  
  Hmm. Maybe.
  
  However, as Kelvin David is doing God’s work by keeping Hone Harawira out of parliament, and as the vast majority of Kiwis would wish him to do the same in the 2017 election, if it helps Davis’ re-election changes in Te Tai Tokerau, then let him go!
  
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  November 8, 2016 3:23pm
Manolo

Germany is starting to pay the high price of Merkel’s blunder:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914412/Germany-s-Federal-police-say-migrant-influx-responsible-crime-going-THIRD.html

Germany’s Federal police has blamed the influx of migrants for increasing crime rates.

In 2015 436,387 crimes were recorded – a 31.6% increase on 2014.

Police say the increase is mostly due to violations of immigration rules, with nearly 40% of all crimes relating to residency, asylum and freedom of movement laws.
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November 8, 2016 1:04pm
- Gabby
  
  It’s all the fault of the nasty Poles and Hungarians who aren’t falling into line and making living space for the nice new Germans.
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:43pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Fuckwit
    
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    November 8, 2016 8:04pm
Manolo

Why would it be? Local residents want to keep the buggers away:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3909922/A-12ft-high-Munich-Wall-built-protect-locals-German-city-camp-young-migrants-living-community.html

A 12-foot high barrier – higher than the Berlin Wall – is being erected in the German city of Munich to protect locals from young refugees who are set to move into the area.

Locals campaigned for the wall, in the suburb of Neuperlach Süd, after authorities decided that some 160 young unaccompanied migrants will move into a large shelter which is less than 100 metres from a residential estate.

Critics say the wall is further proof of the alienation voters feel with Chancellor Angela Merkel’s refugee policy.
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November 8, 2016 1:11pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Vote in a woman as your leader – she delivers a rape epidemic.
  
  Germans ( at least the Lefty ones ) only have themselves to blame – this is cultural self immolation.
  
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  November 8, 2016 3:20pm
  - Gabby
    
    Jeez, jist ask her out again tomorrow, but wash your hands fist.
    
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    November 8, 2016 6:44pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Just like Steve said…
      
      Fuckwit
      
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      November 8, 2016 9:31pm
Ross12

Project Veritas strikes again

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-07/undercover-journalist-full-burka-offered-huma-abedins-ballot-nyc
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November 8, 2016 1:26pm
- itstricky
  
  strikes again
  
  “Striking” like this:
  
  http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe
  
  Or not?
  
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  November 8, 2016 1:39pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    rationalwiki.org is Progressive agitprop.
    
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    November 8, 2016 3:23pm
- Gabby
  
  What? What are you talking about?
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:46pm
  - pentwig
    
    Do you have a brain? Perhaps you are as intelligent as daffy. How sad.
    
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    November 8, 2016 7:54pm
- cha
  
  Project Veritas strikes again
  
  You do know what an affidavit ballot is?
  
  If someone isn’t on the voter rolls, they’re offered an affidavit ballot. If it’s invalid, it’s discarded.
  
  http://www.votersearch.org/reference.php
  
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  November 8, 2016 9:02pm
Stars And Stripes

Male/female/other option at Canada border
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/86225467/malefemaleother-option-at-canada-border
“Some foreign visitors to Canada will be allowed to identify themselves as male, female or other in a border document being introduced this week”.

Glad I don’t work in customs/immigration at the border because I don’t think I would be able to stop laughing if something came through with the other box ticked.
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November 8, 2016 1:56pm
- stephieboy
  
  Stars And Stripes , you surprise me. I thought you would be the one who would relish the thought of a customs frisking and body search in these circumstances .
  
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  November 8, 2016 2:10pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Talking about frisking and body searches Stephieboy I bet you would like to give that Muslim girl at St Lukes one of these and find out for sure whether those breasts were small and firm ah?.
    
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    November 8, 2016 2:25pm
    - stephieboy
      
      I believe she was female not transgender as the dilemma Canadian customs could be facing !
      
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      November 8, 2016 2:38pm
      - Manolo
        
        Do you drool over other men’s “chattels”, stephieboy?
        
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        November 8, 2016 2:42pm
      - Andrei
        
        Yes it is a major issue in Canada Stephieboy
        
        Gender is very confusing to them
        
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        November 8, 2016 3:05pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    When are you going in for your op?
    
    What are your “preferred pronouns” going to be? Zir Zim Zee?
    
    Do you want us to start calling you stephiegirl or is that too heteronormative binary oppressive for you?
    
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    November 8, 2016 3:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Who would want to pay 3000 quid for an old pair of knickers?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-37897103
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November 8, 2016 2:59pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  My guess would be a pantysniffer or a neo Nazi.
  
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  November 8, 2016 3:20pm
- mikenmild
  
  There seems to be quite a wide appeal for this stuff:
  http://www.jta.org/2016/06/16/news-opinion/world/auction-of-nazi-memorabilia-includes-hermann-goerings-underpants
  
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  November 8, 2016 3:57pm
- pentwig
  
  Daffy would. It could soak them in his tea while perving at young muslim girls in his local Mt Roscill cafe!!
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:07pm
starboard

…and that pantysniffer would be mm..
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November 8, 2016 3:45pm
- mikenmild
  
  Just to check that they’re clean and fresh of course…
  
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  November 8, 2016 3:58pm
- itstricky
  
  Back so soon starboard?
  
  What happened?
  
  Did the beer run out?
  Did the sun go out?
  Did the talent slap you?
  
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  November 8, 2016 4:37pm
  - starboard
    
    Had a swim, had a crown and a kebab.
    
    Im not a drunk like you stricky, I can say no.
    
    Must be a bummer being on Home D sticky, apart from making nil comments on here..what else do you do to fill in the day?
    
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    November 8, 2016 4:45pm
    - itstricky
      
      Stop asking questions like that, starboard – your personal interest is a little creepy.
      
      I just thought, with all that sun, beer, babes and so forth you wouldn’t be back for days. But you seem to have returned as quickly as you could. Maybe the ~~lounge~~ GC isn’t that interesting?
      
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      November 8, 2016 6:12pm
      - starboard
        
        You’re such a munter..Id try explaining to you slowly but don’t have all day. Off to Jupiter’s tonight for a few cold ones and a perv at the endless supply of gorgeous talent that parades around over here. Life’s good for the starboard. Must be ass if you’re on H.D.
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:24pm
      - itstricky
        
        Id try explaining to you slowly but don’t have all day.
        
        Why did you come back then? Surely the beers and babes are more exciting than here.
        
        Off to Jupiter’s tonight for a few cold ones and a perv at the endless supply of gorgeous talent that parades around over here.
        
        Oh, do stop starboard, you’re impressing me so much, I’m falling over myself to be like you.
        
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        November 8, 2016 8:29pm
Happychappy

So Andrew Little got a lesson on honesty when asking a question in the house today,it is easy to twist words in a statement but when you twist it out of the context that it was made in you are telling lies and the PM made him look silly when he took him to task.The old saying play with fire you get burnt and it is now getting to the stage where Little has little credibility.
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November 8, 2016 3:52pm
- Gabby
  
  So Ponyboy got away with pretending numbers were going down when they’re going up, and his cabbagenet had legal advice when they just heard a rumour that the Saddies had. Munter McMutton’s rumour no doubt. What a crppy chappy that Ponyboy is.
  
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  November 8, 2016 7:28pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Steve?? Do you want this one?
    
    Oh,
    
    I can, thanks.
    
    Fuckwit
    
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    November 8, 2016 9:33pm
Viking2

Cannabis Science, a company specialized in the development of cannabis-based therapeutics, recently announced the development of two new medications for pain relief in people with fibromyalgia and diabetic neuropathy nerve pain.

The two new pharmaceutical pain relievers will be marketed as transdermal adhesive patches that deliver a certain dose of medication into the bloodstream by absorption through the patient’s skin.

Transdermal drug delivery routes have the potential to promote healing of an injured area of the body. This delivery method can be superior to other types of medication delivery, including oral, topical, intravenous, intramuscular,and others, because of the additional control over the dose administered to the patient.

http://fibromyalgianewstoday.com/2016/11/04/cannabis-science-announces-pharmaceutical-development-of-pain-patch-for-patients-with-diabetic-nerve-pain-and-fibromyalgia

Look at what NZ have missed out on. Millions of export income from something we grow well.
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November 8, 2016 4:53pm
- nasska
  
  The sweet sherry conservatives know best what God approves of as medicine for us V2.
  
  Prayer good, alcohol better, cannabis evil.
  
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  November 8, 2016 5:09pm
SPC

No change to marriage laws in Oz for a few years.

Same story as with the republican debate, confusion over process ends/delays the reform.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37892879
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November 8, 2016 5:14pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Confusion?I thought the Libs wanted a referendum ( which was an Election promise) and the Senate has blocked it because Labor just wants the Govt to ignore their referendum promise and just pass legislation?
  Looks like petty politics from Labor to me.
  
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  November 8, 2016 5:28pm
  - SPC
    
    The majority wanted a republic but they disagreed about appointed or elected replacement. They agree on the change here but there is pressure on Labour to seek a parliamentary vote from some who support change (they think they can avoid division over the issue by not holding a referendum – mad fools).
    
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    November 8, 2016 5:32pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      There is no confusion over process. So I don’t know why you are going on about the Republic debate. It’s simple.
      The Libs Election promise to their voters was a referendum on Gay Marriage. Unsurprisingly Lib MPs want to keep their promise to their voters as many of their voters don’t agree with Gay marriage.Hardly a surprise they want to keep their word given they are falling behind in the Polls.
      Labor wants to force a vote in Govt to legislate the change. Labor is playing politics.
      If the govt wants to spend the money on a referendum then Labor should just let them do it. God knows Labor has wasted enough money on pointless dross before. Let the people decide.
      
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      November 8, 2016 5:44pm
      - SPC
        
        Yes there is. The process is the means to the end and in each case, no progress – and this despite there being a majority for the goal, republic and marriage law change.
        
        But sure partisans will exploit any issue, as you do here.
        
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        November 8, 2016 5:54pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        There is no ‘confusion’ over what process the Libs want.The process is clear. Have a referendum.
        You can’t say ‘despite there being a majority for the goal’ – that’s why the Lib MPs promised a referendum. They want to know if there is a majority.
        If Labor wants progress, then don’t block a referendum on Gay Marriage.
        Don’t know why you keep bringing the Republic into this . It’s about Gay Marriage.
        
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        November 8, 2016 5:59pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        I see your edit. I’m not partisan. Im for gay marriage.I’m just trying to explain to you what the actual situation is because you don’t seem to know. Sheesh.
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:06pm
      - SPC
        
        LOL, you are replying to my post and then telling me what the issue is.
        
        I phrased it as Oz once again failing to get their act together.
        
        THFYTU?
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:13pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        I’m explaining to you there is no confusion over the process. ( for the third time now…)These are your words ‘confusion over process ends/delays the reform.’
        Ok, so when I say the Libs made an Election promise for a referendum so there is no confusion over the process what don’t you understand?
        I can tell you are getting a bit upset huh.
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:16pm
      - SPC
        
        You cannot even be honest with yourself (you have resorted to a partisan habit, blame Labour), so your capacity to know about others is probably “confused”.
        
        This was about Oz failing to get things done until you got your partisan paws on it.
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:31pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Partisan?I’m just stating FACTS.
        You’re just making shit up now cause you don’t like ME pointing these things out to you. Eh. You are more interested in personal point scoring than having a discussion.
        And you call me partisan. Lol
        It’s about Labor in the Senate blocking the Libs from keeping their promise of a referendum- which is the process they want.
        
        Oh and it’s ‘Labor’ not ‘Labour’
        
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        November 8, 2016 6:36pm
      - SPC
        
        You learnt your anti-Labour partisanship here not in another country. Stop straa’in from the point.
        
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        November 8, 2016 7:06pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    The first word of my first reply is ‘confusion?’
    I haven’t strayed from that point at all and have pointed out there is no confusion several times.
    You just can’t accept you didn’t understand what has happened and that I was the one to point it out to you. So now you are just lying and scrabbling.
    That’s sooo funny.
    Oh and it’s ‘straying’ not ‘straa’in’- rattled much?
    
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    November 8, 2016 7:16pm
    - SPC
      
      LOL. I thought you were concerned about using Oz spelling, so why not accent as well?
      
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      November 8, 2016 7:43pm
- kowtow
  
  Reform?
  
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  November 8, 2016 5:45pm
Fletch

How Clinton’s Foreign Policy Has Destabilized Nearly Every Corner of the Globe

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/11/07/hillary-clinton-world-map/
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November 8, 2016 5:22pm
- Manolo
  
  And crooked Hillary vows to continue Obama’s disastrous foreign policy. The United States are doomed.
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:49pm
Stars And Stripes

Rodeos to go on despite Green Party concerns over animal cruelty
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11744456
“The more than 35 rodeos held in New Zealand each year shouldn’t be banned, a Parliamentary committee has concluded – a finding criticised by the Green Party”.

For once common sense prevails and lawmakers had the spine to stand up to zealots.
Much prefer to go to a rodeo any time than a organic vegetable information day.
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November 8, 2016 5:29pm
- kowtow
  
  S&S
  
  I see the petition the report was on was by SAFE, SPCA and Farmwatch.
  
  Given those players and the Greens support it will only be a matter of time before this comes up again and again and again.
  
  City v Country. City will eventually win , unfortunately . It’s a numbers game.
  
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  November 8, 2016 5:52pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Unfortunately you are probably right but if they all get a few more years of sleepless indignation over it in the meantime then good stuff.
    
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    November 8, 2016 6:07pm
stigie

Nasska:- Lewis Stanton wants an apology and compensation from the council (sounds like Penny Bright) for the loss of earnings and wants his horse and cart back so he can carry on making a living. Nothing wrong with that but he still wants to do the same as before, parking up in the middle of the CBD, horse, cart and trailer complete with fodder bag and other various shit making a nuisance of himself and disrupting business.
Eketahuna seems a nice place for this bloke Nasska along with his horse Barney, his cart and all the shit that goes with.
I know you would just love to have them all !~

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/86173338/lewis-stanton-wants-money-apology-in-settlement-with-nelson-city-council
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November 8, 2016 5:42pm
- nasska
  
  It terrible that you & your fellow citizens are complicit in hounding this poor man stigie. Obviously he’s a simple soul who merely wants to make a couple of bob by taking tourists on sightseeing tours of your beautiful city yet the pack of communists in your town chambers have confiscated the poor old bugger’s horse & worldly possessions.
  
  A man with his entrepreneurial spirit should be encouraged. 🙂
  
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  November 8, 2016 5:58pm
stigie

You have only kind words for this blessed beggar Nasska, it has to be applauded ole chap..?
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November 8, 2016 6:10pm
- nasska
  
  There could be a nice little earner waiting in the wings for someone who wants to follow behind the cart & bag up the horseshit stigie.
  
  Free Barney! 🙂
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:15pm
  - stigie
    
    That could work Nasska, but the way Labour’s policies are working out, they will not want to pick up shit for the minimum wage but only if they could start at lunchtime !~
    
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    November 8, 2016 6:25pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stigie:
      
      … they will not want to pick up shit for the minimum wage …
      
      Make it a living wage and seal the deal old chap!
      
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      November 8, 2016 7:10pm
      - stigie
        
        Well, i’ll be buggered, thats what a rabid leftie would say Nostra, who’s team are you on..?
        
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        November 8, 2016 8:21pm
Reid

One of the best arguments for Trump is the moral decrepitude of his most insane opponents.

America and the Abyss
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/andrew-sullivan-trump-america-and-the-abyss.html
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November 8, 2016 6:26pm
SPC

German calls it.

Modern world vs Trump.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37895601
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November 8, 2016 6:40pm
- Shunda barunda
  
  Comparing Trump to Hitler requires astounding ignorance of both men.
  
  The internet spreads bullshit more effectively than anything else (apart from naked ladies). We have created the greatest communication and knowledge conduit in history and it has only made people more ignorant and more prejudiced.
  
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  November 8, 2016 7:03pm
Reid

This Election Has Disgraced The Entire Profession Of Journalism

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-06/election-has-disgraced-entire-profession-journalism
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November 8, 2016 6:42pm
- nasska
  
  Wikipedia defines “profession” thus:
  
  ….”A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply disinterested objective counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain.”…..
  
  To refer to journalists as professionals is gross flattery at best.
  
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  November 8, 2016 6:51pm
  - Reid
    
    They’re whores. Presstitutes. Any message, to the highest bidder.
    
    And of course democracy needs them to function. But instead of being eliminated by a ruthless autocracy, they’ve simply taken the money and their ethics and sold it to anyone who’ll pay them to do what they best, these days: bray.
    
    Notice however a lot of professions are similar. I know quite a few old lawyers glad to be out of it for the venal proud arrogant dishonest attitudes they see in many not all but many younger practitioners.
    
    This is why I complain about sheeple mate. It’s not just about seeing evil ubiquitous control so obviously deployed that people should see but don’t, it’s the insidious and equally planned side-effects like this in our own society.
    
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    November 8, 2016 7:10pm
Reid

Meet the million dollar donors. Spolier alert: they’re with her
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-06/meet-million-dollar-donors-spoiler-alert-they-are-her
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November 8, 2016 6:47pm
SPC

Why did Germans lose WW1, 1918-1939.

Why do people like Trump lose, see reasons given in 1918-1939.
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November 8, 2016 7:04pm
- All_on_Red
  
  ‘World War I ( or WW1), ……lasted from 28 July 1914 to 11 November 1918’ not from ‘1918 – 1939’.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I
  You’re not having a good day huh.
  
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  November 8, 2016 7:12pm
  - SPC
    
    LOL.
    
    Is my prose written for a higher comprehension level than 3 readers?
    
    From 1918-1939 Hitler blamed certain people for the WW1 defeat. There are people on KB who will cite the same people as to blame for Trump’s defeat (after expecting him to win).
    
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    November 8, 2016 7:40pm
    - Reid
      
      Seriously?
      
      What a bunch of morons.
      
      Clearly they know nothing at all.
      
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      November 8, 2016 8:19pm
wiseowl

First results in from Dixville.
Hillary 4
Trump 2
Romney 1
Johnson 1
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November 8, 2016 7:25pm
- nasska
  
  There must have been a few hard winters in Dixville Notch. In 2012 they had 10 voters but this year only 8. 🙂
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixville_Notch,_New_Hampshire
  
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  November 8, 2016 7:34pm
wiseowl

Whoever downticked .Tosser.
That is the result.Only 8 voters in Dixville and that is the result.
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November 8, 2016 7:32pm
- mikenmild
  
  “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence”
  – John Adams
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:10pm
Simon

Greatings comrades!!

Get used to Prez Elect Trump.

Its a change election and that change is Trump.
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November 8, 2016 7:36pm
Reid

Two State Department contractors, with decades of experience protecting the United States’ most sensitive secrets, are speaking out for the first time about Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state and how the rules for government security clearance holders did not seem to apply to Clinton and her team.

“The State Department was her oyster and it was great for the [Clinton] foundation and great for the Clintons to be able to have such a great position,” Dave Whitnah told Fox News.

Whitnah said he worked within the State Department’s Office of Security Technology which is responsible for cameras and alarms and sweeping for bugs. Whitnah said everyone understood the secretary of state is the primary target of foreign intelligence services.

“The number one person would be the secretary of state and their communications,” Whitnah explained. “You can think of the Iran negotiations, nuclear negotiation, negotiations with Russia, talks with Russia. You know, anything to do with foreign policy.”

Whitnah emphasized that tens of millions of dollars were spent on technical security for Clinton that apparently was disregarded as her team traveled around the world on official U.S. government business.

“It was unfathomable that [her BlackBerry] would be used for anything other than just unclassified communication,” Whitnah said. Clinton’s devices were not certified as secure by the State Department. As for her use of a non-secure BlackBerry, Whitnah stressed that email can be intercepted and, “Even if turned off, it’s still a listening device so that’s why you take out the batteries…”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/07/state-department-contractors-detail-how-clinton-and-her-team-ignored-security-rules.html
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November 8, 2016 7:51pm
Fletch

The prediction by one Vegas oddsmaker –

When I saw Donald backstage I told him, “Here’s my prediction…You will win by a 10-point landslide…but Democrats cheat by 8 points…so the final official election results will show you won by 2.”

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/07/vegas-oddsmaker-predicts-brexit-victory-trump/
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November 8, 2016 7:58pm
dad4justice

Do downticker’s suffer from tics?
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November 8, 2016 8:00pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Infested by them D4J
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:06pm
- stigie
  
  Most have aids probably Dad…..Be careful..?
  
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  November 8, 2016 8:31pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Aids stigfly silly me. I thought they lacked a backbone and resembled gutless spineless jellyfish who are suffering from severe problems associated with the dreaded downtic syndrome.
    
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    November 8, 2016 8:38pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      And so Dad once again shows the terrible affliction known as “soldnopumpstoday”
      
      Maybe tomorrow chap
      
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      November 8, 2016 9:36pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Did the downtick cause a tic Dad?
        
        It’s a shit throwing stones from within the glass house aye
        
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        November 8, 2016 9:51pm
Ross12

Scott Foval ( taken down by the Project Veritas guys) has gone all out of Twitter ripping into the DNC, Clinton etc and actually endorsing Trump

https://twitter.com/Scott_Foval
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November 8, 2016 8:10pm
dad4justice

The world championship fight with Parker and some idiot is a joke . Monty Python antics surely. My word Kevin you are scraping the bottom of barrel. Not much has changed since your Burnside days.
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November 8, 2016 8:27pm
Ross12

This is an interesting piece on polling and how this company has tried to get a good / better reflection of the voter intentions (that is why I have posted it, not the results it shows even though they are interesting)

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/07/poll-trump-michigan-pennsylvania/
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November 8, 2016 8:27pm
Jack5

Interesting person on Jim Mora’s Panel on Radio NZ Labour programme today.

Golnaz Bassam-Tabar is an Iranian-ethnic NZ journalist. A quick Google of Golnaz, called by NZ journo friends as “Gollie”, has been criticised for her views on Gaza and the aid flotilla (link below).

“Gollie”, and Auckland communications advisor, seems also to be a kick boxer. She sounds to be an interesting person.

Her Gaza stuff:

https://honestreporting.com/radio-new-zealand-airs-unbalanced-anti-israel-tirade/
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November 8, 2016 8:46pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  She’s made for the panel – Vegan. Activist. Kickboxer. Feminist. Journalist. And an ex-pat foreigner.
  
  Straight from Google page. Guessing – she and media have a mutual love affair – and now I’ve heard of her. RNZ – it’s just ‘random radio’. Take out the NZ part. Or maybe that’s NZ now. ‘Random country’. Filling up with third world ugly /Asians and exploding dumbarse native / poly numbers.
  
  It’s too hard to find new people – so you just keep going back to the same ones like her – if you want an economist you get that nerdy Indian fella or whatever he is Shamubeel Eaqub. There is no-one else. He is like eating dry weetbix for midday lunch in the Sahara.
  
  You turn on RNZ – and it’s nothing but weirdo foreigners – or Americans – anything but kiwi sounding NZders. I mean – all the time ? Or – just wankers. Rabid lefties or delicate highfaluting prissy head in the clouds young ladies with a degree in 18th century English political neo-classical poetry. Media bubble – and who listens to that shit ? I try to – and I have to turn these idiots off. You can do that – but they’re still out there.
  
  I want Bob Jones on the panel. Him and Michael Laws. There’s your panel people. How about an actual business leader ?
  
  Taxpayer funded bullshit.
  
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  November 9, 2016 3:38am
nasska

A recent report reveals that a Saudi Arabian scientist has invented a time machine that can see eight years into the future.

He is said to be delighted with his wife’s NCEA results.
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November 8, 2016 9:24pm
Jack5

Nasska, for a second I thought they could be in the Stephie X troll team.

Then I remembered, Stephiestanis don’t have much time for Saudis.
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November 8, 2016 10:03pm
Manolo

The old philanderer seems to be somewhere else:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-bill-clinton-spaced-chews-tongue-late-night-philly-rally/
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November 9, 2016 6:05am
Manolo

A bit late, isn’t it?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3913578/Merkel-s-migrant-U-turn-Germany-wants-STOP-refugees-reaching-Europe-country-continues-struggle-consequences-open-door-policy.html
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