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Viking2

Mornin all.

Trump to win.

More pooey tourists.

When is summer coming?
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November 4, 2016 8:02am
- mikenmild
  
  I hope you have already invested heavily in a Trump victory, as the odds are changing. He is now at a 35% chance of winning, according to 538.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:05am
  - Morrissey
    
    What a pity we have only a few more days left to appreciate this witty, charming and charismatic man….
    
    http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2015/11/27/2.jpg
    
    http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/26/donald-trump-mocks-reporter-with-disability-berman-sot-ac.cnn
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:21pm
Souvlaki

Goff is no sooner in the saddle and already apparently backing ATEED spending a fortune of ratepayers money on supporting Parkers boxing match ! The rate payers are sick of being raped by these pricks squandering their hard earned money . ENOUGH !
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November 4, 2016 8:06am
- cmm
  
  leopards spots change can’t
  
  Make a sentence from those words…
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:16am
  - Komata
    
    Easy (and because a ‘sentence’ only has to have more than one word) ‘Phil Goff”. Thanks for asking.
    
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    November 4, 2016 1:06pm
  - Viking2
    
    Apparently not as the funding is no longer available. Just will be spent somewhere else. Funding that was exactly for the purpose.
    Oh Well.
    The grinches win again for the moment. No wonder they are poverty stricken.
    
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    November 5, 2016 8:30am
- Awww C-mon
  
  If the rate payers were sick of it they would have voted differently.
  
  Suck it up sweetheart, you live amongst all those fuck-tards
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:20am
  - Souvlaki
    
    Well and good…however the bums who support Goff mostly won’t be PAYING any rates !
    
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    November 4, 2016 8:50am
- Gabby
  
  Does he want the gumming to come to the party? He’s quite the party guy.
  
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  November 4, 2016 11:49am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Hey Gabby…
    
    Fuck Off
    
    Thanks
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:54pm
    - Gabby
      
      I take it the operation to desandify your vagina was less than 100% successful? So the squawwwking will continue?
      
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      November 4, 2016 6:40pm
Morrissey

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The gruesome spectacle of Donald Trump’s ridiculous wife should
not fill us with despair; America WILL get over this nightmare, eventually.
Written in temporary dejection, Friday 4 November 2016

Right now I’m listening to Melania Trump saying something really stupid on television. It’s tempting to be contemptuous of any nation that has enabled someone like her and her moronic husband to effectively hold it in thrall. This is a really dark time in the United States: whichever toxic candidate wins on Tuesday, it’s going to be very bad news for people not only in the U.S., but in many other countries.

But let’s not imagine that these political numbskulls are the alpha and omega of American life: they’re not. There are still decent and thoughtful people in every area of American life. Here are a few brilliant and thoughtful women, the polar opposites of the likes of Melania Trump….

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/beyonc%C3%A9-and-the-dixie-chicks-brought-the-house-down-at-the-cmas_us_581a4350e4b01a82df646927
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November 4, 2016 8:06am
- dime
  
  yeah shes bad.. way worse than the other candidates spouse.. who rapes women.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:43am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Hmm, and according to Anonymous there is video.
    ‘Remember remember the Fifth of November’
    
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    November 4, 2016 8:56am
  - Morrissey
    
    Bill Clinton is certainly a terrible person. But he has never publicly mocked women, nor has he assaulted them in public.
    
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    November 4, 2016 11:36am
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      I actually agree with you this time Morrissey.
      It’s far more respectable to assault or rape women behind closed doors right.
      
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      November 4, 2016 11:45am
      - Morrissey
        
        No, that’s not what I wrote or implied. What I meant was that Trump is a far more repellent and obnoxious person than Clinton. That’s obvious to anyone with a brain.
        
        I despise Bill Clinton, by the way, and I was disgusted by the fawning reception he received when he came to NZ in 1999.
        
        I have criticized Clinton many times, and incurred the displeasure of no less than the legendary Kim Hill in so doing….
        
        https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-03102015-2/#comment-1077792
        
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        November 4, 2016 12:08pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      But there are people prepared to go before a court and swear that WJC raped them. Of course (in Hillary Clinton’s own words) these are just bimbos and not really women so can be insulted, marginalized and demeaned in any way one likes. In the same vein, it’s not misogyny to taunt Sarah Palin for giving birth to a Downs Syndrome child (hyuk hyuk hyuk that’s funny and so deserved) but it is to attack one HRC for her lies and corruption.
      
      Morrisey, you’re a sickening and nasty example of how the entire left actually doesn’t care about women or minorities except to the extent that they can be used as a weapon to beat your opponents with. Rape is fine as long as it’s one of our own doing it, and the women raped deserved it doncha know.
      
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      November 4, 2016 12:10pm
      - Morrissey
        
        1.) it’s not misogyny to taunt Sarah Palin for giving birth to a Downs Syndrome child (hyuk hyuk hyuk that’s funny and so deserved)
        
        Who the hell has ever taunted Palin for that? There’s only one person I can imagine being cruel and vicious enough to taunt a Downs Syndrome child or the child’s mother….
        http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2015/11/27/2.jpg
        
        2.) Morrisey, you’re a sickening and nasty example of how the entire left actually doesn’t care about women or minorities except [extended foam-flecked rant excised]
        
        You’d be justified in abusing me like that if I had said or implied any of those things. I have not, which renders everything you’ve written null, void, and worthless.
        
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        November 4, 2016 6:44pm
- Kimbo
  
  Ah, yes. A typical misanthropic leftie, justifying their supposed passion for fighting injustice…to attack the family members and assorted non-combatants of the objects of their hate. The sanctimonious and hypocritical Bryan Gould did a similar hit-job on Max Key earlier this week.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11737930
  
  But of course, if anyone dared to do the same about Michelle Obama, her two daughters, or Chelsea Clinton, well, that would be just despicable, wouldn’t it?
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:44am
  - Morrissey
    
    if anyone dared to do the same about Michelle Obama…
    
    I think Michelle Obama is almost as despicable as her husband, and I’ve made no bones about it—much to the consternation of the Obama-cultists over at the Standard…..
    
    https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23012014/#comment-761926
    
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    November 4, 2016 11:43am
  - Gabby
    
    No-one would ever do the Moochelle thing would they?
    
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    November 4, 2016 11:51am
    - Ed Snack
      
      So far on a great many threads on KB, I think you’re just about the first. Well done.
      
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      November 4, 2016 12:11pm
      - Gabby
        
        I think you’re probably thick or just deeply dishonest. Maybe both.
        
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        November 4, 2016 6:42pm
- Inandout
  
  Morrissey, you have obviously forgotten how Jackie Kennedy spoke. No foreign accent, but a voice that was more like a 12 year old girl.
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:05am
  - Morrissey
    
    Jackie Kennedy was exceptionally intelligent. Melania Trump is not.
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:09pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      What, in choosing husbands ? Melania so far is ahead on that one too.
      
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      November 4, 2016 12:12pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Ed Snack, looking forward to Melania displaying a portfolio of her nudies and girl on girl should she make it to the White House for you to drool and slobber over ?
        
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        November 4, 2016 12:20pm
      - Morrissey
        
        As bad as JFK was, he was Prince Charming compared to that charmless cretin that Melania hooked up with.
        
        http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2015/11/27/2.jpg
        
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        November 4, 2016 12:24pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Morrissey
        
        As bad as JFK was, he was Prince Charming compared to that charmless cretin that Melania hooked up with.
        
        I just wonder, in the unlikely event there was a Mrs Morrissey, and in the even more unlikely event she has chosen to hang in there…how she would rate you.
        
        But then asking that is probably an “ad hominem attack”, irrespective of it occurring on a thread about politicians’ spouses…you initiated.
        
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        November 4, 2016 2:40pm
    - Inandout
      
      Her intelligence faltered when she married the Greek.
      
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      November 4, 2016 5:40pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Marrying Ari Onassis was a lot smarter than marrying a shyster who mocks disabled people and routinely assaults women.
        
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        November 4, 2016 6:47pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Funny how misogynist you are !
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:47am
  - Morrissey
    
    I’m not allowed to show how shallow and foolish Melania Trump is? Because she’s a woman?
    
    That’s ridiculous, and you know it.
    
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    November 4, 2016 11:49am
- Fletch
  
  What’s ironic is when Michelle Obama got up on her high horse and gave the well-lauded speech about treating women right and how Trump was misogynist blah, blah, blah, and yet her favourite singer is Jay Z, who has performed at the White House several times, and whom she even invited to perform for her 50th birthday. Jay Z is well know for singing about bitches and hoes, eg –
  
  I’m on the bra strap, she’s on my dick
  Ain’t nothin’ wrong with that, that’s my bitch
  I be the boss of that, I’m on her shit
  So all you niggas fall back, I’ll split ya wig
  She’s my little quarterback, ya dig
  Cause I’m all that in the sack, yeah, ya dig
  I spoiled her, foiled it if you fakin’ Jack
  
  Read more: Jay-Z – Party Life Lyrics | MetroLyrics
  
  Once again, liberals are not consistent with the things they say and do. They seem to compartmentalise everything, where this thing is right at this time, but not for another time – or, it’s OK for me to do such-and-such, but not you.
  
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  November 4, 2016 11:10am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch , teach us how liberals can be forever perfect like you ?
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:23pm
oldpark

What price British democracy now. It has been reported overnight, in the High Court in England, that English Robber barons masquerading as Law Lords,have put a muzzle on the Democratical Brexit Vote. Seems the Robber Barons/Law Lords are full of self serving greed ,which the EU has bestowed on them,and are not letting a legal Democratic vote such as Brexit ,get in the way of their lifestyle.
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November 4, 2016 8:09am
- cmm
  
  They will feel it in the next elections.
  
  UKIP will have a field day.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:27am
  - kowtow
    
    FPP means they won’t , unfortunatly.
    
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    November 4, 2016 8:30am
  - fernglas
    
    If you bothered to read the decision, or even the two page summary of it (available at the Independent) you would see that a full court of the High Court has said, in essence, that Government cannot use prerogative (executive) powers to do something (trigger article 50) that affects the rights of British citizens. Instead, the EU related legislation can only be repealed by legislation passed constitutionally through Commons and the Lords. Whether Parliament heeds the will of the British people as represented in the Brexit vote is an open question but it doesn’t mean that article 50 won’t be triggered, just that the potential has arisen for protracted debate and disclosure of the UK’s bargaining position to Parliamentary, and therefore European, scrutiny. I don’t quite see, Oldpark, that requiring Parliamentary approval over executive decision-making is a blow for democracy. It upholds Parliament’s position as supreme lawmaker as opposed permitting the executive to make policy that seriously affects the rights of individuals without Parliamentary oversight.
    
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    November 4, 2016 8:37am
    - oldpark
      
      I did read it ‘fernglas. It has been proven that one of the judges ,is in bed with the Remains. He should have recused himself,seems he didnt think the right of a democratic vote,didnt apply to him.
      
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      November 4, 2016 9:19am
      - fernglas
        
        Which Judge? How is he “in bed” with the remains? Particulars help an argument like this. Even assuming that to be correct, is the decision wrong in your view, and if so, why?
        
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        November 4, 2016 9:45am
      - Gabby
        
        But judges are awesomely perfect and never ever biased, not even towards their own family and friends.
        
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        November 4, 2016 11:55am
    - oldpark
      
      @fernglas. Time you checked out the judges background like i did. Seems you dont like the cold steel of biased GREEDY English Robber Barons,masquerading as judges,and polluting the Democratic British system. Seems you want the judiacry to overule democratic agreements. Why bother with democratic elections,in any shape or form,if three judges one ,who should have recused his biased thinking,as he is a proven stay in EU supporter. To think the wishes of at least 17million BREXIT voters have been cancelled ,is an up yours by threee Robber Barons.
      
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      November 4, 2016 12:02pm
      - fernglas
        
        What a load of rubbish. Nothing in that decision”cancels” the result of the referendum. It says that before the decision to leave Europe can be triggered, it must be done with the assent of Parliament, not by the decision of the executive purporting to act under the royal prerogative. What is undemocratic about that?
        
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        November 4, 2016 3:47pm
- peterwn
  
  The judges are merely applying the Bill of Rights 1688 – “That the pretended Power of Suspending of Laws or the Execution of Laws by Regall Authority without Consent of Parlyament is illegall.” the same as applied by Wild CJ in Fitzgerald v Muldoon.
  The Government should have put a clause in the Brexit referendum act to allow the Government to give Article 50 notice, but MP’s would have most probably objected to it.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:48am
  - Liberty
    
    In 1688 democracy was a complete joke.
    Parliament was controlled by the old boys club.
    It appears not a lot has changed.
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:18pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Liberty , explain how you feel personally disenfranchised and marginalized in our democracy today ?
      
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      November 4, 2016 12:25pm
      - Liberty
        
        Stephie
        I don’t feel “personally disenfranchised and marginalized”
        as we live under a free and open government.
        While the coalition of losers is in their rightful place. The opposition.
        life is good.
        
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        November 4, 2016 2:56pm
    - kowtow
      
      Back then they took the guns off the Catholics in order to stay in power. Now that we’re “secular” they’ve taken the guns off everyone to stay in power.
      
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      November 4, 2016 1:00pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Given that Catholics, courtesy of Jesuit spies, terrorists like Guy Fawkes, and malevolent uber-Papist enemies of England such as Phillip II and Louis XIV constituted the equivalent of a 17th Century ISIS…good on those who carried out the Glorious Revolution of 1688, I say!
        
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        November 4, 2016 2:45pm
- Huevon
  
  The Lisbon treaty all over again. Wherever the EU project is subject to a popular referendum it is rejected, but Europhile elites use legal chicanery to make sure the people give the “correct” result.
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:04am
  - Ross12
    
    If this is a basic aspect of UK law the amazing thing about this is, no one from either side bought this up during the campaign or if it was raised it must have got buried in the mud slinging.
    I would have thought Cameron would have made it loud and clear.
    
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    November 4, 2016 9:58am
    - GoVege
      
      The vote was practically 50:50…and for many it was just a protest vote.
      Then we had the marches.
      Brexit ain’t “the will of the people “.
      
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      November 4, 2016 12:38pm
      - calendar girl
        
        No way do you believe in democracy then, GoVeg.
        
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        November 4, 2016 2:32pm
- emmess
  
  Couldn’t Theresa May make it a whipped party vote?
  I don’t think there would be more than a handful of Tory remoaner rebels that would be stupid enough to go against the will of the people.
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:20am
  - mikenmild
    
    It seems unlikely that a majority of MPs would vote against implementing the referendum result. The court decision was about upholding a constitutional principle, not thwarting the will of the electorate.
    
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    November 4, 2016 9:33am
  - peterwn
    
    It needs to get through the Lords too. The issue at stake I think is would have been much ‘cleaner’ from the Government’s point of view if it could implement the will of the referendum directly without having to through a whole enactment process through both houses when the result would or should be a foregone conclusion (similarly Rob Muldoon did not want to ram through the legislation abolishing or at least suspending Labour’s superannuation scheme in the short period between the 1975 election and Christmas).
    
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    November 4, 2016 9:49am
    - fernglas
      
      Agree that it would have been cleaner, but I’m not sure that implementing such an important referendum without Parliamentary oversight is necessarily a good precedent. Anyway, it is likely to get through, even though they may have to stack the Lords to do it. But it is not going to help the UK if its bargaining positions all have to be aired in the House; and someone will probably now say that any agreement reached needs to have Parliamentary approval. I see it as a victory for the principle of democratic process, but one which will have serious repercussions for the UK economy and its financial stability.
      
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      November 4, 2016 10:03am
      - Ross12
        
        It appears they may have a messy situation on its hand according to this MEP
        
        “Every treaty that the UK has entered into since joining the EU has been done using Royal Prerogative which means Parliament was not consulted. Nobody has complained for the last 40 years until now with the government wanting to rescind the treaty.
        
        Gerard Batten UKIP MEP clearly explains this to a BBC presstitute, proving that the decision to allow approval by Parliament to invoke Article 50 is political.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?… ”
        
        h/t post on Breitbart
        
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        November 4, 2016 10:09am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Fernglas, the decision is probably correct on its own. However it does imply that the accession treaties and changes were similarly unconstitutional for the very same reason. So surely the option exists for May to declare that they accept the ruling and also apply it to the original agreements and thus Clause 50 isn’t needed as the UK never properly joined.
        
        Ross12, snap.
        
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        November 4, 2016 10:46am
      - Ross12
        
        Sorry , it looks like the video link in my original post is faulty. Try again
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q_2Ml4af74
        
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        November 4, 2016 11:25am
- EAD
  
  I’ve been doing some research on the Brexit decision over the past hour because something smells fishy.
  
  On the High Court which blocked Brexit, 2 of the 3 judges were Jews and the case was bankrolled by a third Jew.
  
  EVERY DAMN TIME
  
  We had homosexual (((Sir Terence Etherton))) and (((Lord Justice Sales))), presided over by the single British person involvedv – Baron Thomas of Cwmgiedd, who is tapped to provide a whipping post for the angry public, despite the fact that his experience working for European Union think-tanks and NGOs are the very definition of a conflict of interest and part of the EU infrastructure.
  
  Then when we look at the lawsuit – it was mounted by international banker (((Alan Miller))), who pushed his African wife Gina Miller to provide a face for the case.
  
  http://www.thejc.com/business/business-features/alan-miller
  
  This stinks – what we have here is a bunch of foreigners funding, deliberating and deciding on the future of the British people. I mean, shouldn’t the British people be the ones who decide on their future rather than a bunch or rootless cosmopolitans?
  
  Of course If you’re a superfluous cuckservative reading lots of Breitbart, you’ll interpret this travesty as a “Eurocrat” judge and a Guyanese immigrant making a last ditch effort at overturning popular political consensus. But if you scratch the surface, you’ll find a globalist Jewish speculator in tandem with two Jewish judges running the show in the background.
  
  1…..2…..3 just waiting for the “anti-semite” shrieks to silence the facts.
  
  PS: Just look at this – the intention of the referendum is pretty clear:
  
  https://twitter.com/brexittruths/status/794158234974167040/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:50am
  - mikenmild
    
    Ohhh dem Jews.
    What should we do about them?
    
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    November 4, 2016 10:57am
    - thedavincimode
      
      Lordy! That was too clever for him milky.
      
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      November 4, 2016 12:42pm
    - EAD
      
      Quelle surprise – No actual counter-argument from you again MM, just more diversion and shrieking to the facts that I present.
      
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      November 4, 2016 8:08pm
  - EAD
    
    Thanks for the downvote MM and Keep dodging the real issue which is that Jews who are only 0.5% of the British population, make up two thirds of the forces misappropriating the Judicial branch of the government to stave off a fair and democratic referendum.
    
    What should we do? We could start with redressing their disproportionate representation in key choke points of our national life – namely global finance, the media, MSM and in the judiciary.
    
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    November 4, 2016 11:13am
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD,
      
      “..Jews who are only 0.5% of the British population, make up two thirds of the forces misappropriating the Judicial branch of the government.’
      
      Can you document that ?
      
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      November 4, 2016 11:53am
    - mandk
      
      Without its small Jewish population, Britain would be even more messed up than it already is.
      
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      November 4, 2016 12:03pm
  - fernglas
    
    perhaps the Brits would like you to keep your nose out of their business too, EAD. Maybe they are not ashamed at promoting competent people regardless of their backgrounds
    
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    November 4, 2016 11:43am
  - GoVege
    
    What are ya, EAD?
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:43pm
EAD

Die MSM die! (with a typically humorous Savant interpretation of events)

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2016/11/the-sad-death-of-hard-news.html?m=0

Joyous tidings this week as Reuters announce the layoff of 2,000 staff from their world-wide operations. This follows earlier layoffs of 5,500 in 2013 and further underlines the implosion of the mainstream media brainwashing machine. Readership, advertising revenue and most of all reputation spiral downwards as readers flee to alternative sources.

This trend worries the “liberal” (and partially Soros-funded) Brookings Institution which notes that while radio and television (print news is finished) remain important, listener and viewer numbers have also “declined precipitously”. And it seems that even “hard news” is now in danger” (stop laughing at the back!). “These trends have left many people wondering who will collect hard news for the general public. While the Internet world has made it possible for everyone to express their opinion widely — whether they know anything or not — it has also confused readers.” Isn’t that terrible! The confusion stems apparently from the absence of “neutral intermediaries such as reporters, fact-checkers, and editors”. And that means “readers are having a hard time judging the credibility of what they read.”

And the best part:

It’s bad. Because without the MSM who will we have to dig out the hard news on Obama’s academic and birth records, to find out that “a Swedish man” was killed while fighting with ISIS in Syria, to detail the orgy of rape and pillage committed by Europe’s ‘migrants, to show the Clinton Foundation to be a criminal enterprise along the lines of the Mafia?

Brilliant!

Though various factors are contributing to the MSM’s demise, the biggest one will be loss of credibility. Americans’ trust and confidence in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately and fairly has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history. And their grotesque (mis)handling of the Trump/Clinton election will represent the coup-de-grace for whatever credibility remains.
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November 4, 2016 8:10am
- mikenmild
  
  Luckily, the ‘MSM’ is being replaced by more credible sources such as the Daily Stormer, Zero Hedge, InfoWars, etc, etc…
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:12am
  - EAD
    
    Why do you put Zerohedge in the same category as Daily Stormer & Infowars MM?
    
    Deliberately disingenuous?
    
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    November 4, 2016 8:20am
    - mikenmild
      
      Just examples of bullshit from the clogosphere. Doesn’t have to be a hate site to be total crap.
      
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      November 4, 2016 8:23am
      - EAD
        
        You know MM,
        
        if we were as hypersensitivite and as shrill as yourself, and willing to use the same kind of “objectivity”, it’d be fair to call the entire MSM a so called “hate site” if we were to look the other way.
        
        Only difference is in what it so called “hates”. In the MSM’s case, it hates Right wingers, Males, Christians, Capitalists, White People, Marriage (except for homosexuals), the nuclear family, Patriarchy, free speech (unless its the right kind of free speech), kinship, tradition, duty, an apolitical justice system, people making their own decisions, living with the consequences of one’s actions and so on and so forth…..
        
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        November 4, 2016 8:46am
      - mikenmild
        
        More Nazi bullshit…
        
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        November 4, 2016 8:52am
      - Ed Snack
        
        You mean total crap like Huffpo, Slate, and Salon ? Biased, lying, mysogynist, and homophobic (but only against Republican women and gays).
        
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        November 4, 2016 9:03am
  - dime
    
    you didnt mention sites like the huff post?
    
    what a shock.
    
    gotta love the milky standard – an organisation on the right can produce a million stories, but if 4 of them are weird of whacky, the entire organisation thinks that way and they are discredited.
    
    that standard does not apply to the left
    
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    November 4, 2016 8:57am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      I tried reading an article on HuffPost yesterday. It astounds me people think it has any sort of objectivity at all.
      
      One of the headlines read “Trump PROBABLY didn’t pay his medicare”
      
      I lasted maybe 2 minutes before I clicked away in disgust
      
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      November 4, 2016 9:07am
      - MGT
        
        Two minutes? You must be a slow reader…
        
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        November 4, 2016 10:40am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        MGT, someone linked me to it as a news source. I wanted to be polite and at least try and understand their point.
        
        Needless to say I couldn’t.
        
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        November 4, 2016 11:01am
    - mikenmild
      
      It’s not a matter of ‘right’ and ‘left’ dime. It’s whether EAD’s Nazi world view where white supremacists are being unfairly picked on by the Jewish media has any basis in reality.
      
      There are many right wing media sources that are reasonably objective, just as there are many equally credible sources from the left. Picking out the moonbats and the wingnuts is usually pretty straightforward though.
      
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      November 4, 2016 9:09am
      - dime
        
        yeah yeah ive never seen you endorse a right wing site.
        
        youll just google the leftie guide to smearing and come back with – in 2005 they did a story called blah blah and that means that everyone there is a “moonbat” or a “wingnut”.
        
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        November 4, 2016 10:52am
      - mikenmild
        
        I don’t endorse any sites. When I encounter outlandish claims like white genocide, 9/11 as an inside job, GM crops or fluoride poisoning everyone, etc, I try to take a rational approach.
        If you are going to divide the world into left and right and imagine that one side has it all correct and the other completely wrong, then you shouldn’t be surprised to be wrong yourself a lot of the time. Cutting yourself off from sources of information because you don’t like their politics might be a bit shortsighted – but their is a huge leap to imagining that every website is equal.
        
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        November 4, 2016 11:03am
      - Ed Snack
        
        I may not generally agree with mikenmild on much, but his “campaign” to oppose EAD’s anti-semitism has my backing.
        
        Not everything EAD links to or quotes is necessarily a problem site, but some are. However, I do like Zero Hedge, good for laughs and has the odd nugget. Best place to get your “OMFG buy GOLD NOW” articles.
        
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        November 4, 2016 12:22pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I thought he excelled himself yesterday when he claimed that not only was there no Holocaust, but that Jewish were responsible for two real genocides.
        
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        November 4, 2016 12:34pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        Sorry milky, inadvertently reported you.
        
        No holocaust? What was his theory – was it just Miele and Gaggenau trialing oven technology?
        
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        November 4, 2016 12:48pm
      - EAD
        
        Thing is Mikey, you don’t really “oppose me”, you just shriek hysterically and ignore the facts I present.
        
        Yesterday I presented to readers, the names and backgrounds of the leaders of the Young Turks who slaughtered the Armenians and the leader on the NKVD who gave rise to Holdomor.
        
        As for the so called “Holocaust”, how about you turn off the MSM, research the internet and a variety of books that present both sides of the arguments before making up your own mind.
        
        We are all adults, Hysterical shrieking is not really a dignified response unless you’re a 6 year old girl. Is that too much to ask of you?
        
        https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gr6EK2KzKEM/WBnAPVHunbI/AAAAAAAAFpQ/T0GC5K21qdMqrHNcT6smuNCzkZuITLxnQCLcB/s1600/mediabias.jpg
        
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        November 4, 2016 8:05pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Oh dear. Your wacky notions have been rebutted, point-by-point, so many times that it would be foolish to assume that you will ever change your opinion about the Jews.
        Cynical masterminds of their own mass murder, they also managed to organise genocides of other people in their spare time.
        I’m wondering now if there is any crime for which they are not responsible: the Bengal Famine, the Cambodian killing fields, anything?
        
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        November 4, 2016 8:11pm
      - EAD
        
        Their own mass murder
        
        OK MM, I’ll engage you again. For a start, have you actually read any of the counter arguments?
        
        Have you ever stopped to consider how much is invested in maintaining the Holocaust narrative that no weight of historical or scientific investigation can be allowed to be seen to question it? In that respect it is a bit like Climate Change/Global Warming – No matter how much evidence is presented, the narrative can’t be allowed to be shattered.
        
        If it was shattered –
        – Then Israel would have even less moral right to exist
        – We could critically examine the roles of Jews in the Media, High Finance (particularly Central Banking), Politcs without lamely being called an “anti-semite”.
        – People of the West could not be hysterically shouted down as “Nazzis” for merely not wanting their nations to be demographically replaced by Muslims
        
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        November 4, 2016 8:23pm
      - mikenmild
        
        But you are a Nazi…
        As I said, all of your bullshit has been rebutted in detail, many times.
        
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        November 4, 2016 8:25pm
      - EAD
        
        But you are a Nazi…
        
        What’s is a “Nazi” MM? Is it the same cartoonish version the MSM always presents to you – in the same bullshit way they present caricatures of Trump voters or Brexit supporters?
        
        If the Nazis were the same type of people as the Victors who write the history books portray them as, I would be disgusted with myself for supporting them. I could never support an ideology that mass murders 6 million people and thought of itself as some kind of master race (it does take a special kind of chutzpah however to think of yourself as being Chosen however…..).
        
        However, reading first hand accounts of life in the Reich and the reality of the Jewish work camps as opposed to the manufactured fantasy of the writers of history, means I can’t just be untrue to myself and “deny being a National Socialist”.
        
        When you actually understand what proper National Socialism is – you understand what a farce of a system our so called left vs. right, central bank debt money “democracy” is.
        
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        November 4, 2016 8:53pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Yeah, yeah you are a ‘proper’ National Socialist. Makes me wonder what an ‘improper’ Nazi would be like.
        No mass murder and conquering Europe for you, eh?
        The Jews should all push off to Israel and stop running the white man’s world. What would you do to them if they refused your generous offer of resettlement?
        
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        November 4, 2016 9:28pm
kowtow

“Concrete evidence has emerged that there has been an actual attempt to carry out a terrorist attack on New Zealand soil.”

“Intelligence analyst Paul Buchanan said New Zealand’s greatest vulnerability came from “self-radicalised computer jockeys” who became drawn to terrorism as a response to Isis-associated online campaigns.”

No Paul, we’re the computer jockeys , they are the camel jockeys.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/terror-threat-nz-revealed
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November 4, 2016 8:17am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Stephen Boyle will be outraged that you should say this. Of course it never happened – it is just a nasty ploy to discredit our lovely multicultural peaceful immigrants.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:34am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  This is all blown out of proportion.
  All I did was leave two bags full of gardening chemicals and nails for my new home improvement project, unattended in the middle of Britomart, while I went to the loo to check my knew chef knife set.
  
  Next thing I know I’m being pushed to the ground and tasered. All I could do was yell Alluha Akbar.
  
  I was surprised and oppressed.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:36am
Sideoiler

Efeso Collins, still whining on red radio this morning.
I would resign in protest if I was him.
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November 4, 2016 8:17am
- wiseowl
  
  Councils are not about culture.
  This guy does not know what he is there for.Auckland council is a disaster and it will only get worse if this cultural shit gets traction.
  They are their to make decisions about rates , not skin colour and for claims of racism he needs to look no further than the race based, anti democratic positions for others about him.
  Espinor was sickening as usual.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:35am
  - Paulus
    
    Did I not understand that the Council contracted out the security role for this, and all other do’s
    They would not dirty the hand of their 9500 employees.
    
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    November 4, 2016 9:01am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Yes but if he resigns, he will need to give up his place at the trough.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:47am
  - Sideoiler
    
    Yes but if he resigns, he will need to give up his place at the trough
    
    Yes he is outraged, ……but not quite that outraged.
    
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    November 4, 2016 8:55am
- kowtow
  
  But didn’t Goof look like he should be at a Halloween Party ,dressed up like Heap Big Chief , in that silly cloak?
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:01am
Happychappy

I see Andrew does not think his bribe in Mt Roskill has got the result it deserves as several people have described that it is not what is the priority for Mt Roskill or others on the outskirts of Auckland City
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November 4, 2016 8:24am
waikatogirl

Another campaign is ramping up for free health visits to the GP for another group. This time we are told it is young adults who cannot afford to pay.

Unless they have cronic illnesses causing many visits annually, I don’t believe a visit or two annually is beyond most young people. Priority spending people.
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November 4, 2016 8:40am
Manolo

Has Griff become a trappist monk or what?
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November 4, 2016 8:49am
- kowtow
  
  Nah, they do a good line in beer and Griffy’s a tee totaller . More likely he’s become a shaman high on jungle herb and he’s wandering round the Amazon lost in a haze.
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:04am
- AgentBallSack
  
  He’s off taking lessons from Redbaiter on how to win friends and influence people.
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:09am
- Griff
  
  Just busy
  Even a Griff has to work once in a while .
  No I am not a teetotaler.
  Thats another case of your made up bullshit . Did you get it from your imaginary friend?
  Having looked carefully into the down sides of both intoxicants.
  I prefer to smoke the herb than drink poison .
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:17am
  - mandk
    
    Are you trying to tell us that the herb is toxin-free?
    
    http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20071214/study-shows-toxins-in-marijuana-smoke
    
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    November 4, 2016 9:50am
    - mikenmild
      
      Do you really want to compare alcohol with cannabis on the basis of toxicity?
      
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      November 4, 2016 11:05am
      - mandk
        
        Not really, but Griff evidently did.
        
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        November 4, 2016 12:04pm
Manolo

Not worry, just ask the family:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article112153927.html

Kenya knows a thing or two about contested elections, which some speculate may be a situation the U.S. finds itself in next week. In response to violence following the country’s 2007 presidential contest when Raila Odinga refused to acknowledge the victory of opponent Mwai Kibaki, a group of coders developed a platform to document where protests were occurring.

The organisation thinks the technology will be useful in the American election.
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November 4, 2016 8:52am
dime

i saw a headline in the herald today – 500,000 people cant afford to visit the GP

LMAO

where do they pull this crap??

i couldnt be assed clicking on it.

i imagine its meant to tie in with the other story about the guy who held off getting treatment and passed away.
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November 4, 2016 9:00am
- mandk
  
  I guess it depends on what question you ask and how you ask it.
  
  I’m sure you could find plenty of evidence that 500,000 people have to make a choice between visiting the doctor and paying for their smokes/booze/pokies/netflicks/pimped-up motor etc.
  
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  November 4, 2016 12:09pm
Ed Snack

I wonder if we’ll see anything of Tom today or if he’ll need the rest of the day to recover from his celebrations ! Have to have been a good one after 108 years of waiting !
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November 4, 2016 9:33am
Ed Snack

In just another story, Hillary Clinton claims an affinity for New Yorkers because she was in New York on 9/11.

Pathological liars will lie ! She was in the Senate in Washington DC (which was in session) and there are photographs of her on the steps of the Capitol after the event with other Senators.

What is it about Clinton that makes here fabricate stories ALL THE TIME ! It sort of of isn’t even news anymore; if her mouth is open she’s telling lies, simple.

This, BTW, is how you know that if she gets elected the US will sign the TPP – because she’s campaigning against it and says she wouldn’t sign it.
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November 4, 2016 9:43am
- fernglas
  
  I thought I saw a picture of her with Donald Trump in New Jersey watching thousands of Muslims celebrating the attacks?
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:20am
  - stephieboy
    
    fernglas , no witnesses or video /photos of Muslims cheering across the Hudson in NJ has ever come forth.
    
    Kindly oblige !
    
    Trump the consummate liar !
    
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    November 4, 2016 10:27am
    - fernglas
      
      Sense of humour bypass, steve.
      
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      November 4, 2016 11:40am
- stephieboy
  
  Ed Snack , according to this report she never actually claimed to be in New York on 9/11.
  
  Due to the cancellation of commercial flights she arrived the following day and did a tour with Mayor Giuliani at the WTC site ,
  
  http://fortune.com/2016/10/13/rudy-giuliani-hillary-clinton/
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:24am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    *while dodging sniper fire
    
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    November 4, 2016 10:36am
    - stephieboy
      
      ABS, did Hillary actually claim she was in New York on 9/11?
      
      That is the question !
      
      My source says she never made such a claim.
      
      Yours ?
      
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      November 4, 2016 11:58am
  - Gabby
    
    That may have happened but it is no longer truthy.
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:06pm
Manolo

The Clinton mafia under the FBI microscope:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/02/fbis-clinton-foundation-investigation-now-very-high-priority-sources-say.html

The FBI’s investigation into the Clinton Foundation that has been going on for more than a year has now taken a “very high priority,” separate sources with intimate knowledge of the probe tell Fox News.
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November 4, 2016 9:55am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, of course, Fox will highlight Trump’s well-known dealings and associations with the New York mob ?
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:29am
Peter

Gareth Morgan launches party

http://www.top.org.nz/
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November 4, 2016 9:58am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Is there no end to this prick’s vanity?
  The choice of logo was not the wisest, but I guess the best we can hope is that he’ll steal some terminally bewildered voters off Winnie.
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:10am
  - Ross12
    
    Will split the Greens ??
    
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    November 4, 2016 10:14am
- kowtow
  
  Yep he’s got “Aotearoa” in there. Arsehole , along with the sentry box logo. At least that ties in with North Korea being marvellous. No doubt a universal basic income will be in the offing somewhere along the line , so he’ll get the pot smokers’ vote……if they can be bothered.
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:20am
- Inandout
  
  Silly Gareth, he thinks he can do a Bob Jones and start his own Party. Bob had only one thing in mind and that was to get rid of Muldoon. Gareth, by going all Maori, seems to be on the wrong road to gain votes. And ‘Opportunity Party’ is a strange name; opportunity for Gareth perhaps?
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:37am
waikatogirl

Thanks for the laugh Peter!
Morgan’s launch of “The Opportunities Party” is another grab for the lefty vote. Lefty votes spread more thinly across more parties. ????

Good for JK and National
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November 4, 2016 10:09am
stephieboy

Trump the man who struggles to distinguish the truth from a lie .

“Donald Trump has said, repeatedly, that he opposed the war in Iraq from the start. He didn’t.

He supported the bombing in Libya 2011 and stated so on multiple occasions .Now says he didn’t .

“He said he saw “thousands” of Muslims celebrating on New Jersey rooftops on the night of Sept. 11, 2001. Didn’t happen.

“He said that 58 percent of black youths are unemployed. Untrue

“These are far from isolated incidents. In fact, 63 percent of the 91 Trump statements that the WaPo’s Fact Checker has checked were given a Four Pinocchio rating — meaning they were/are totally false. (A typical candidate gets Four Pinocchios somewhere between 10 and 20 percent of the time; 14.2 percent of Clinton’s claims have been given Four Pinocchios.)”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/02/do
nald-trump-hasnt-told-the-truth-repeatedly-in-this-campaign-
voters-still-think-he-is-more-honest-than-hillary-clinton/

Or to be charitable is he, in fact, insane ?

Feedback please !
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November 4, 2016 10:15am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Can’t feedback. To busy dodging sniper fire and selling off Americas interests to Saudi Arabia
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:38am
  - stephieboy
    
    ABS, can you expand on that ?
    
    Don’t be coy about sourcing Alex Jones !
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:02pm
- Ed Snack
  
  That the WaPo ever gave Clinton anything but a free pass is enough of a surprise to me. That must have been a mistake as they can’t have asked the Clinton’s to “correct the story” before releasing it as they do with most stories.
  
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  November 4, 2016 10:42am
  - stephieboy
    
    Ed Snack , another Clinton body count true believer ?
    
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    November 4, 2016 12:30pm
- prosper
  
  I think you could say something very similar about Clinton. I am glad I don’t have to choose.
  
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  November 4, 2016 11:14am
Stars And Stripes

Twenty-seven years in their home, 21 days to get out: Family asks HNZ to have a heart
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/85997415/twenty-seven-years-in-their-home-21-days-to-get-out-family-asks-hnz-to-have-a-heart

It’s a bloody disgrace the mother was allowed to stay in a state house for 27 years and now the kids want it as well.
Get all your stuff and jam it in your bongo van and take a ride as the taxpayer has subsidised your miserable lives for long enough.
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November 4, 2016 10:17am
- GoVege
  
  What’s disgusting is HNZ telling these young people they have 3 weeks to get out of the home they’ve spent their entire lives in, just 2 days after their mother died!
  Are they employing robots in government departments now?
  In recent times they have had the foresight to put one of the children’s names on the lease agreement as well, to prevent the kids being kicked out when mum dies.
  Surely they could do this here?
  
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  November 4, 2016 12:58pm
  - Garbageman
    
    27 years of us paying for the bulk of their rent every week no wonder they can afford to suddenly buy the house, do I feel one pang of guilt about these bludgers getting the arse card ,nope they are only renters and have zero rights to demand anything, no doubt most of the clan were on benefits as well what a generous lot we were to give them 27 years eh
    
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    November 4, 2016 1:22pm
    - GoVege
      
      Rubbish, Garbageman.
      Those houses would have been paid off decades ago.
      Would you prefer if the tenants had bought the house?
      (I know of a crafty guy who bought up 3 statehouses side by side in Orakei.)
      The rest of us are still getting money every week for this one, and it still belongs to us.
      There’s nothing wrong with this young family staying here, especially after losing their mum.
      
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      November 4, 2016 2:12pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    They do not give the ages of the “children” in the article but they definitely look like full grown adults in the picture who are more than able to look after themselves.
    If they have not planned for this because they have the same bludging attitude as the mother then tough.
    
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    November 4, 2016 3:26pm
    - GoVege
      
      State houses were specifically built for the less well-off among us, Stripes.
      A lot of people do not know how to go about buying a home.
      I never knew until I was in my mid to late 20s…probably about the age of these bereaved young people.
      Fortunately for me, we had home ownership accounts back then and a modest home in most parts of Auckland cost under 100gs.
      Things have changed a lot since then unfortunately.
      They would have NO chance.
      
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      November 4, 2016 5:35pm
  - GoVege
    
    If they are Polynesian, they would have been working.
    It is extremely shameful in Polynesian culture to not have a job.
    
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    November 4, 2016 5:37pm
- GoVege
  
  Yes, and don’t forget that it’s YOUR fault your dad ditched your mum and sentenced you all to a life of penury!
  The rest of us whose fathers did the decent thing and stuck around, eventually getting us our own home, just love to lord it over you losers.
  
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  November 4, 2016 1:30pm
  - Garbageman
    
    Mine croaked it when I was 10 and my mother & eventually myself fought for scrimped and saved for everything we have nowadays, on the benefit once for 4 weeks between jobs, yet you think we still owe these people more even after 27 years and are lording our hard fought for lifestyles over others, but that really only suits your narrative of nasty right wingers eh the truth for most of us is vastly different Veg
    
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    November 4, 2016 1:42pm
    - GoVege
      
      Sorry to hear of your loss, Garbageman.
      I lost my dad at 15, so I try to show a bit more compassion for others.
      I scrimped and scraped for years too, only lately managing to be able to relax a bit.
      I know a few twits who were the authors of their own misfortune, but in general, I just feel sympathy for any person who can’t afford to buy their own home.
      Usually it was not because of a succession of “bad choices”.
      
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      November 4, 2016 2:19pm
MGT

It seems that some people go into politics for the wrong reason – they want power, rather than actually trying to make a difference.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11741637

Is this the earliest that a by-election has ever been called? All because someone didn’t get their own way – good riddance I say.
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November 4, 2016 10:36am
Stars And Stripes

Melbourne Cup bin rider defends her drunken antics
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/australia/melbourne-cup-bin-rider-defends-her-drunken-antics/ar-AAjRz4S?li=BBv6TfA&ocid=spartandhp
“The young woman who became the unwitting face of the decadence of the Melbourne Cup when she was photographed drunkenly riding a wheelie bin has defended her actions and said her mother was proud of her”.

So some drunken fat ass who rides a wheelie bin because she either can’t get on a horse or wants some cheap sexual thrills has a mother who is proud of her.
Very low standards in this family obviously.
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November 4, 2016 10:40am
- AgentBallSack
  
  To make it worse she’s been outted as a Kiwi.
  Just to prove we can grow our own drunken bogans.
  
  (A stable hand from somewhere near Palmy. Obviously the stables motto is “Don’t spare the horses”)
  
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  November 4, 2016 11:04am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Bet the Australians aren’t as quick to claim her as they were with Phar Lap; even Australians have standards
    
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    November 4, 2016 3:21pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Jillings is a pretty well-known surname in horse-training circles.
    http://www.racinghalloffame.co.nz/Inductee-Videos/People/Trainers/Colin-Jillings
    
    She may well be worth a few more bob than the average stable-hand.
    
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    November 4, 2016 9:02pm
- Sideoiler
  
  Melbourne Cup bin rider defends her drunken antics
  
  Must have been a weight for age handicap looking at the picture.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:40pm
- nasska
  
  Did you see the size of her? The rubbish bin never stood a chance! 🙂
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:21pm
Jack5

Canterbury researchers get half a million dollars to investigate while Southlanders roll their “r’s”.

It’s so obvious: Southland was settled by Scots.

Next grant: $1 million to see if the Earth’s spherical or flat.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86079559/530000-to-investigate-why-southlanders-roll-their-rs
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November 4, 2016 11:11am
- chuk
  
  I agree it’s a waste of time and money. However, I’ve often wondered if the Southlander rolling “r” really does come from Scottish ancestors. It has always sounded to me more like an English west country “r” than a Scottish one.
  
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  November 4, 2016 5:32pm
waikatogirl

Woman offended by Paul Henry.

OPINION: Hearing the word titties is an embarrassing experience. If you have a pair, just hearing the word feels like someone has ripped your top from you. I immediately think of men yelling from their cars: SHOW US YA TITTIES, and that visual gives me full body shivers before my mind explodes into irretrievable pieces.

It’s the sort of word that is entirely appropriate in man caves, where the calendar with the naked women that’s been hanging since 1993 is permanently fixed to Miss April after much discussion with the blokes that she has the best titties.

The word ‘Tits’ is bad enough, but ‘Titties’, ugh, it has a playful, juvenile ring that makes it next level creepy. Paul Henry used the word 11 times in his NZME interview with writer Greg Bruce, in the story published on the weekend.
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Oh my goodness, she didn’t stop reading after the first time he used the word “titties”, but managed to finish the article so she could count up 11.
Wow!
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November 4, 2016 11:11am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  How surprising that when I have a look at the profile of the author of this piece of crap she has an interest in feminist and social justice issues.
  These seem to be recurring themes amongst many who claim to be journalists.
  
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  November 4, 2016 11:26am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And she has titties
    
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    November 4, 2016 3:23pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      And it seems PH managed to get on them.
      
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      November 4, 2016 5:55pm
      - Morrissey
        
        The only chance Paul Henry would have of getting on any woman’s tits would be if he, like Donald Trump, paid for the privilege.
        
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        November 4, 2016 6:50pm
Fletch

Yet another Project Veritas video. This time, top major donors to Hillary Clinton are recorded comparing blacks who vote Republican to the Jews who worked for the Nazis, saying “blacks are seriously f_cked in the head”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1L1gNUPbTw

In the video, the Veritas team plays the recordings to local black pastors who obviously aren’t impressed. “So that’s what they think of us”, comments one of them.
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November 4, 2016 11:14am
stephieboy

Fletch , is the original unedited version available by the Trump funded Project Veritas ?

I suppose the remarks compare favourably with these anti Jewish Tweets by Trump supporters, ?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/us/politics/anti-semitism-trump-supporters-twitter.html

and,

http://au.complex.com/life/2016/10/trump-supporter-racist-prank
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November 4, 2016 12:04pm
Manolo

Will the UK or France become the lucky home of these animals?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3902838/Three-Afghan-migrants-suspected-raping-translator-Calais-Jungle-arrested-Paris-refugee-centre.html
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November 4, 2016 12:11pm
Manolo

Oh dear, the FBI is not fair to the ultra corrupt Clinton:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
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November 4, 2016 12:20pm
Manolo

Wonderfully criminal! The pervert had US official emails on his computer.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-finds-emails-related-to-hillary-clintons-state-department-tenure/

The FBI has found emails related to Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state on the laptop belonging to the estranged husband of Huma Abedin, Anthony Weiner, according to a U.S. official.
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November 4, 2016 12:44pm
Manolo

Why would he have to encrypt? The Clinton mafiosi believe they are above the law:
http://www.infowars.com/podesta-ignored-advice-to-encrypt-sensitive-emails/
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November 4, 2016 12:50pm
thedavincimode

So what’s with this mad Lucy Schwaner on the Howick board? Is she really the fruitcake she appears to be? Taking fruitcake lessons from the rates bludger?
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November 4, 2016 12:56pm
- mikenmild
  
  Wife of Jami-Lee Ross. Classic case of entitlitis.
  
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  November 4, 2016 1:05pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    She’s in the wrong party milky.
    
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    November 4, 2016 1:13pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Call the wahmbulance: “If you don’t make me chairwoman, I’ll quit”.
    
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    November 4, 2016 1:17pm
wiseowl

I have spent the last half hour crying.
To see all that grog. French wine ,aged whisky all tipped down the drain by the cops.
What a waste .$20,000 bucks worth! Surely there has to be a better way than to destroy in this manner. If they have hurt the environment then I hope there is a penalty like destroying their cellphones or something.
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November 4, 2016 1:00pm
- Inandout
  
  Yes, we’ll gather at the river,
  The beautiful, the beautiful river;
  
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  November 4, 2016 5:46pm
Manolo

Some divas and B-listers are planning to flee:
Ali Wentworth would rather go down under with husband George Stephanopoulos: “If Trump wins, we’ll start looking at real estate in Sydney, Australia. No crime, no guns.”
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November 4, 2016 1:30pm
- holysheet
  
  it would only improve the intellect of both countries
  
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  November 4, 2016 1:41pm
  - Jack5
    
    An old, oft repeated joke that was coined by Muldoon nearly 40 years ago.
    
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    November 4, 2016 11:29pm
- Pateke
  
  Not forgetting the best police force money can buy
  
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  November 4, 2016 1:53pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  No crime, no guns.”
  
  Only Islamic Terrorist Jihadis.
  
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  November 4, 2016 2:17pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  “If Trump wins, we’ll start looking at real estate in Sydney, Australia. No crime, no guns.”
  
  …no negroes.
  
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  November 4, 2016 3:09pm
  - Scott Chris
    
    With a handle like Jazz-Hands I kinda know you’re one of these un-self-aware fidgeters who flounces around live sound jazz venue tables whilst completely misunderstanding the music and looking objectively stupid.
    
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    November 4, 2016 4:32pm
    - Scott Chris
      
      In the same way as body sculptors are orange. Which reminds me of a politically orange sack of potatoes I can’t quite put my jazz finger on….
      
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      November 4, 2016 4:40pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Its hilarious all these limousine liberals citing Trump as the reason they want to move to another white majority country like Canada or Australia but not Mexico or Nigeria.
  
  They obviously don’t want to live with blacks, asians and hispanics.
  
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  November 4, 2016 3:12pm
  - Scott Chris
    
    Projection much?
    
    More likely it’s culture-less people like you they want to get away from.
    
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    November 4, 2016 4:35pm
    - snowy
      
      If its culture they want, then why are they moving to Australia?
      
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      November 4, 2016 5:51pm
- Sideoiler
  
  Some divas and B-listers are planning to flee:
  Ali Wentworth would rather go down under with husband George Stephanopoulos: “If Trump wins, we’ll start looking at real estate in Sydney, Australia. No crime, no guns.”
  
  She seems to have an over inflated opinion of her self worth what the hell makes her think she is just going to breeze into Aussie.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:52pm
Manolo

The incompetent Messiah dances at the tune of the Clinton mafiosi:
http://www.usnews.com/news/the-run-2016/articles/2016-11-02/president-obamas-last-dance

Wednesday marked Obama’s ninth campaign event for Clinton this year, and he’ll complete six more for her in the remaining five days, touching down in Florida, New Hampshire and North Carolina again.

But given the uniqueness of the opponent Clinton faces on a multitude of levels, as well as recent indications that this opponent has a viable, if not likely, path to victory, Obama appears to have embraced this closing cause with a greater sense of urgency and purpose.
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November 4, 2016 2:30pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, the Clinton mafioso?
  
  You mean this kind of thing ?,
  
  https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/d3/63/6dd3630875aa2a2874a5d2fd35770272.jpg
  
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  November 4, 2016 2:51pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    More stupid questions from Stupidboy
    
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    November 4, 2016 2:54pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Wed , still going over after the 8th to volunteer on that 10 ft higher 1900 mile wall ?
      
      Or was all just a ‘metaphor “?
      
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      November 4, 2016 2:57pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Pathetic little troll. KBs Dumbest Commentator huh.
        
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        November 4, 2016 2:59pm
  - Manolo
    
    Yes, in Italian mafioso is the singular, mafiosi the plural.
    The members of the organisation your idols Bill and Hillary have been running for some time: the Clinton Mafia.
    
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    November 4, 2016 2:55pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo. so how many bods have the Clinton mafioso disposed of ?
      
      http://americanmafia.com/images/burial_hole.jpg
      
      All_on_Wed
      
      Pathetic little troll. Kbs Dumbest Commentator huh.
      
      tsk,tsk,tsk ! But you did try and say the Mexican border wall was just a ” metaphor “
      
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      November 4, 2016 2:59pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        More stupid questions from the Creepyboy
        
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        November 4, 2016 3:02pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Sigh, more misquoting.
        
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        November 4, 2016 3:22pm
Paulus Gnome

Almost home time, be good and put all the toys back in the cot now.
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November 4, 2016 3:27pm
skyblue

Classic quote from FB page for Trump from posters:
“So, I am reading that Hillary is really upset that the FBI is “dumping” on her right before the election…. I want to say to Mrs. Clinton, “So Hillary, how does it feel to be aborted 5 days before delivery?”
“Bill Clinton tried to cheer up Hillary Clinton today by reminding her that Nelson Mandela wasn’t elected president until after serving 27 years in prison.”
“THIS JUST IN!!! Clinton is now leading in the polls in key battleground states such as Qatar, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Syria and hopefully soon San Quentin.”
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November 4, 2016 3:30pm
Stars And Stripes

The maths equation no one has solved yet
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11741879

Not sure if “Brigitte” is on KB today but your services are required to slay this one in a blaze of glory like she did the NCEA maths paper which everyone was saying was too hard.
Show us what you can do for a second time.
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November 4, 2016 3:46pm
Jack5

Amazon has begun collecting GST for NZ on digital books I buy.

Thank you National!
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November 4, 2016 4:06pm
- holysheet
  
  You don’t have to buy them if you don’t want to pay the gst. Suck it up, pay up and stop your bitching.
  
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  November 4, 2016 6:31pm
  - Jack5
    
    Holysheet: that sounds like the view of bitching NZ retailers – international free trade for everyone but themselves.
    
    When it comes to our retailers’ own interests, protectionism rules.
    
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    November 4, 2016 11:23pm
SPC

Erdogan responds to nearly losing power when the Kurdish party formed an alliance with local liberals by surprise surprise using legislation passed earlier this year (allowing MP’s to be arrested) by arresting politicians of the Kurdish party.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37868441
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November 4, 2016 4:17pm
SPC

15 year old teenager calls out Comey for victimising her.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37857729
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November 4, 2016 4:19pm
Scott Chris

SPC

15 year old teenager calls out Comey for victimising her.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37857729

A diversion, too much of a peripheral casualty SPC, I’m more interested in why Comey interfered with the electoral process so close to the election.

It’s been suggested that internal FBI revolt among some of its junior employees who are primed to leak half chewed data may be the cause of Comey’s apparent indiscretion… kinda makes sense but also paints him as a weak leader.
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November 4, 2016 4:53pm
- SPC
  
  My first impression was that Congress might have threatened him with impeachment if he did not re-open the Clinton investigation. But his record suggests otherwise, not easily cowered.
  
  More likely credible info that Congress would try to indict Clinton if she won – inferring that the FBI had not done its job prior to the election.
  
  What might happen now is an attempt to indict before inauguration, forcing Obama to pardon.
  
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  November 4, 2016 5:09pm
- Reid
  
  He was following orders when he let her go and he told that to the world in the way he did it, by listing all the reasons she was guilty then saying you’re free to go. He didn’t have to list those, but he did. IMO it was his own silent protest.
  
  It’s the FBI’s job to investigate and gather evidence and Justice’s to deciderer whether or not to prosecute. Lynch abbrogated her constitutional responsibility in delegating it and that to me is another sign of Comey responding to orders not his own. This is backed up also by reports Justice delayed obtaining the necessary suboena’s till the decision to re-open was announced and the appointment of Podesta’s good friend to head the Justice side of the investigation.
  
  The rumour was 100 agents were going to resign en masse if he didn’t re-open. With the FBI’s reputation at stake, what else could he have done. What would you have done?
  
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  November 4, 2016 6:03pm
Scott Chris

I mean, face it if nearly half of voting Americans see fit to vote for Trump, then surely nearly that proportion of Americans at least would be employed by the FBI…

Then factor in the white male factor. Anyone got any stats on what proportion of active FBI investigators are white males?

Now there’s a demographic worth investigating.
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November 4, 2016 5:08pm
- SPC
  
  Institutional misogyny? Institutional anti-liberal bias?
  
  It’s notable how often the right uses law to suppress dissent, Argentina, Brazil, Turkey, Thailand etc.
  
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  November 4, 2016 5:11pm
- Scott Chris
  
  My first impression was that Congress might have threatened him with impeachment if he did not re-open the Clinton investigation. But his record suggests otherwise, not easily cowered.
  
  On what evidencial basis? The documents in question have merely been meta-screened to suggest vague connection with Hillary Clinton. You know how meta-filters work, maybe server names or clusters of sentences saying Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedein threw up some positive results but fucking hell, so vague and so fucking close to the election?
  
  Very hard to understand.
  
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  November 4, 2016 5:22pm
  - SPC
    
    No evidence, merely a suspicion of what would compel him to act – he’s been deputy AG so he knows the Hatch Act. But when deputy AG he demonstrated capacity to withstand pressure, so it must have been a fairly good reason to act prior to the election.
    
    Someone in Congress saying they were going to indict Clinton in the House if he did not act prior to the election might have done it. Responding to junior staff pressure is less likely.
    
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    November 4, 2016 5:35pm
Manolo

Poor Scott must be feeling deeply depressed. There is always ACC, mate.
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November 4, 2016 5:12pm
- Scott Chris
  
  You mean Christian, deluded, pro-Trump Scott Manolo? Who knows, perhaps he has some false hope to cling on to, like his Christianity.
  
  Yes, I Chris am nervous because I really don’t know how stupid or how self-destructive Americans really are. Perhaps it boils down to this simple equation:
  
  How much does the Average American Voter have to lose?
  
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  November 4, 2016 5:31pm
  - SPC
    
    The democratic west wants Trump to lose. He is a threat to the post 1945 order. He would return USA to its pre 1945 isolationism, just as Buchanan tried to do in 2000. That said the Bush Presidency and the GFC discredited the post 1945 order, as a result of major errors in judgment.
    
    Similarly major mistakes in the UK and EU led to Brexit.
    
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    November 4, 2016 5:41pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Trump may very well hit the reset button and return the US to a period of isolationism.
      
      Would that be such a bad thing?
      
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      November 4, 2016 6:32pm
      - SPC
        
        Depends on whether you connect post 1929 policies to nationalist conflict and economic meltdown and the purpose of the post 1945 regime to prevent a recurrence.
        
        Trade wars and an end to collective security converge in real war/subordination of nations to regional hegemony ambitions.
        
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        November 4, 2016 6:53pm
Scott Chris

Of course the other point that will only be brought up after the election is Weiner’s documents were scanned legally without a warrant.

ie meta-data, stuff you and I are legally scanned for.

Personally I don’t have a problem with that but those of you who rail against meta-data monitoring really should be up in arms on Hillary’s behalf with regard to the latest Comey revelations. Deafening silence.
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November 4, 2016 5:41pm
- All_on_Red
  
  I think you have the time line wrong. The FBI were searching the laptop when they found the emails.
  They then got a Warrant.
  Then they used the meta search to save time as it is 650,000 emails.
  Latest news is they have found Clinton State dept emails which they don’t have copies of, ie, ones she has deleted- when her and her lawyers said they only deleted personal emails.If they contain Classified info then the Immunity is gone and they are all stuffed.
  
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  November 4, 2016 8:50pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”If they contain Classified info then the Immunity is gone and they are all stuffed.”….
    
    Bring it on! The quicker these lying slimeballs are given the arse the safer our world will be.
    
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    November 4, 2016 9:08pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      If you are granted immunity but then they catch you lying the immunity is void.
      It’s stunning the extent and reach of this corruption right through to the Clinton friends in the Justice dept.
      All brought about by Wikileaks and FBI agents playing whistleblower- let’s not forget, ‘Deep Throat’ in Watergate was an FBI Agent…
      
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      November 4, 2016 9:20pm
BananaLlama

With Trump polling so well in the U.S elections erasing week long deficits i’m going to take a punt and say he will bleed some of those gains off over the next couple of days.
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November 4, 2016 8:39pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Romney was ahead and lost.
  
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  November 4, 2016 9:21pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    Ahead in what? polls?
    
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    November 4, 2016 9:26pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Yes
      http://www.gallup.com/poll/158519/romney-obama-gallup-final-election-survey.aspx
      The result was different eh
      
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      November 4, 2016 9:36pm

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