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kowtow

“And then there’s the drama of it, which seems harder to justify “in a news sense”, but still matters, because the backstabbing and nastiness that goes on is “the powerplay of the people who make the decisions”.’

Not just politics Heather , that’s life. Hahahaha.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/86991827/The-real-Heather-du-Plessis-Allan
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November 30, 2016 8:08am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Who gives a toss about this woman?
  
  She deserves the derision and approbation that she has brought upon herself.
  
  Good riddance
  
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  November 30, 2016 9:27am
PhilBest

Sorry to keep on on this sober note:

Dramatic earthquake pictures: The great wall of Waiau

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11756776

What happens when the fault or faults going right through the middle of Wellington, do this?
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November 30, 2016 8:10am
- holysheet
  
  You wouldn’t want to be there when it happened.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:22am
- cmm
  
  Well it has happened before. That’s where half the land within Wellington city came from.
  
  You can’t stop this and you can’t realistically take precautions for this.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:37am
  - howitis
    
    NZ experiences uplift in earthquakes.
    This is why the 1855 Wairarapa earthquake uplifted the land that is now Wellington Airport.
    Miramar had been an island. The Hutt road was lifted up. There was a big land split near Taita.
    The Basin reserve was an inland lake that was uplifted to make it a swamp. They were going to cut a channel and make it a port before the quake.
    
    A large part of Napier was delivered from the sea in the 1931 quake.
    The Maori were rather clever in trying to claim foreshore and seabed.
    The Port of Napier became a massive land owner after the 1931 quake.
    
    Well worth seeing is a documentary series (Natural History NZ contributed) called ‘Life Force’ or ‘Mutant Planet’.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2006797/?ref_=nv_sr_1
    You watch this and realise that that looking at things in terms of 50 years or a 150 years does not provide much of a picture. It also covers the many ice ages so quietly kicks the alarmist global warming yik yak into touch.
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:01am
  - PhilBest
    
    Except that we COULD have “not built so much on that spot”. It is not as if NZ is short of space for cities and CBD’s to go in. And it is not as if there is not far more cities (globally) with far more spread-out employment, than there are ones like Wellington with so much concentration. Especially among truly small cities, which Wellington is by global standards.
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:02am
- kowtow
  
  And yet everyone bangs on about a non existent “threat”, so called global warming.
  
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  November 30, 2016 10:12am
  - Griff
    
    kowtow
    
    everyone bangs on about a non existent “threat”, so called global warming.
    
    Why is it that you paste your stupidity all over kb ?
    last week I dropped in and it was a comment about the mainstream media not reporting something with a link to the story reported in main stream media
    This week its everyone bringing up climate change when no one but you is hacking on about it .
    
    I think the voices in your head are getting too insistent for you and suggest a two prong approach .
    
    Stop going to church and listening to primitive god bothering witch doctors.
    Smoke some pot and chill dude .
    
    When you are nice and stoned I suggest reading about some science so your ignorance is not blatantly on display
    
    This will do for a start
    http://history.aip.org/climate/timeline.htm
    It has lots of links for you to actual quality information about the world we live in not some primitive mythical garbage written by a bunch of ignorant goat herders 2000 years ago .
    
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    November 30, 2016 12:58pm
    - kowtow
      
      For someone dispensing advice about “chilling” and calling folk “dudes” , pretending to be cool or whatever , Griff’s posts are among the least “chilled” on KB.
      Perhaps years of over imbibing the secular sacred herb doesn’t result in the mellowness its erstwhile proponents suggest of it?
      
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      November 30, 2016 1:54pm
      - Griff
        
        Psalms 104:14-15 – He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth;
        
        Gee even when it comes to the big book of god whacking you are sadly lacking in knowledge Kowtow .
        
        Ignorance is bliss for the terminally stupid.
        Oh to be such a pathetic ignoramus about the world around you.
        
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        November 30, 2016 3:05pm
Keeping Stock

The prospect of at least another term in opposition (and possibly even more) must be getting Labour MP’s antsy; Kelvin Davis on Twitter last night:

Kelvin Davis @NgatiBird
Prison population hit ten thousand as from today. 10,022 in the slammer.
https://www.facebook.com/KelvinDavisLabour/posts/1359293284102515 …

Heather ‏@pukeko65 · 14h14 hours ago

@NgatiBird Police doing a great job then. Good news

Kelvin Davis ‏@NgatiBird · 13h13 hours ago

@pukeko65 until they get released back into your community totally stuffed up by the experience. Don’t bitch to me if you’re a target.

Maybe it’s time for Mr Davis to look at the polls, then revisit his strategy of advocacy for those who have been banged up for criminal activity.

Most New Zealanders are probably happy that there are 10,000 people behind bars because they’ve broken the law; safer communities, and all that.
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November 30, 2016 8:10am
- Happychappy
  
  What else would you expect from a person that actually has such a high opinion of himself and his ability to make prisons a safer and educated place for our most hardened criminals.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:28am
- holysheet
  
  Didn’t you know that most of these inmates are his cussies. He has to be seen supporting them, otherwise he wouldn’t end up as their Cowmartua in his old age.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:37am
- Rich Prick
  
  Labour must look at all of those lost votes forlornly. If the criminals weren’t all banged up Labour could hit 35%. But hey, that’s their demographic.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:44am
mister nui

Questions for the day:

When did could’ve, could have etc. become could of? I notice this everywhere, including in the newspapers written by our so-called intelligent ones…

I’ve been overseas a lot for the last while, and upon my return, I have noticed that every fucker drives in the right-hand lane on the motorway… What is with people coming on at a motorway on-ramp and making a bee-line for the right lane, regardless of traffic that they might be nearly bowling on their insane quest for the inside lane? I have noticed that there is a significant number of asian woman drivers who do this, and I therefore wonder if it is a confidence thing.
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November 30, 2016 8:11am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  1837
  https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/could-of-or-could-have
  
  Sorry can’t help with the motorway question… don’t think we have them on our tractor tracks.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:15am
  - calendar girl
    
    Maybe stephie could learn something useful from reading that link.
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:53am
Paulus

Am already hearing the a number of Kaikoura dwellings are uninsured or do not have enough cover – this is now decided by the insured how much they wish their property to be insured no longer an unlimited sort of policy as before.
I assume sadly that after the Christchurch quakes property owners would have listened to the publicity over the insurances of their properties and the policy changes brought in as a result.
Are we the Taxpayer going again to be rorted after the AMI’s specific incompetent in Christchurch whereby the Taxpayers throughout the country are still being held to financial ransom, and fraud has been found in some cases – and prosecuted where caught out ?
Lawyers paradise – Key should never have let the earthquake occur.
This and other reasons is why there is getting smaller and smaller choice of insurance companies in this country.
Premiums will hike continually – it is unavoidable as overseas Reinsurers (insurance wholesalers) continue to assess New Zealand after having been effectively conned after Christchurch.
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November 30, 2016 8:12am
redqueen

So, the big question is…

How is mum, dad, and Ben doing? 🙂

Hope all is going well and the first few nights haven’t been too traumatic!
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November 30, 2016 8:13am
Griff

Who the hell goes over a west coast bar when its running high with paying passengers?
I have hundreds of bar crossing under my belt and would not attempt over two meters in my 6M tinny
A well found tinny that can outrun any swell out there and is built for bar crossing will happily surf on a braking waves. Most responsible skippers dont take risks were they will need the full capability of their vessel to stay alive .
An old slow steel fishing boat though bigger is less responsive and once committed has no capability to maneuver relative to wind and swell.
West coast bars are not the place to take risks . Questions need to be asked why was this Muppet in charge of a boat and the lives on board with such a caviler attitude to common sense and basic seamanship.
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November 30, 2016 8:14am
- holysheet
  
  Did you get sam’s permission to talk about this?
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:19am
  - sam green
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Wanking early today holysheet.
    
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    November 30, 2016 8:28am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    The fishing is good this morning H/S, solid bite in under 10 mins.
    
    Are you going to play with your food today or just cut it loose??
    
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    November 30, 2016 8:46am
    - sam green
      
      Nah. I’ll let him be.
      
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      November 30, 2016 8:48am
    - holysheet
      
      Never take me out fishing. I always get the big ones.
      
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      November 30, 2016 8:51am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Agree totally, the more that comes out about this the worse it sounds.
  As a boat owner/skipper you have full responsibility every time you take the boat off the trailer/moorings to get it back safely again, it appears Bill might have been more suited to a horse and Stetson.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:25am
- G152
  
  Sadly familiarity breeds contempt.
  Most probably done that crossing in the same sort of weather before.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:25am
Kimbo

Happy St Andrew’s Day to all the kin of the iwi, Ngati Scottish

Today’s the day to enjoy the cuisine of our heritage –

…haggis (ok, so its offal and porridge in a ~~bag~~ sheep’s gut)

…thistle soup (who else calls a weed a delicacy?),

…shortbread (butter, flour, sugar and eggs – don’t waste any more ingredients!)

…and that great contribution to world gastronomy, the deep-fried Mars Bar.
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November 30, 2016 8:15am
- fernglas
  
  According to Scotland’s official website:
  
  “St Andrew is the Patron Saint of Scotland
  St Andrew is celebrated on 30 November
  St Andrew’s Day is a day to celebrate Scottish culture, food and dance”
  
  So let’s get pissed, eat porridge and jump up and down on a sword.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:26am
- mikenmild
  
  Oats for everyone:
  ‘a grain, which in England is generally given to horses, but in Scotland supports the people.’
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:36am
  - cmm
    
    Why eat wheat and barley when you can put those to better use like making booze!
    
    Oats will ferment, but is harder to get good results with.
    
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    November 30, 2016 8:42am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @Kimbo
  
  You must be one of those posh (Edinburgh) Scots.
  
  All you need for shortbread is butter, flour and sugar.
  Save the egg for breakfast.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:36am
  - Kimbo
    
    Very true.
    
    And the cooking Bible confirms it – not even any almond essence!
    
    http://edmondscooking.co.nz/recipes/biscuits/shortbread
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:16am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      And here’s the science behind that wasted egg yolk…..
      https://www.leaf.tv/articles/why-add-egg-yolks-to-shortbread-cookies/
      which could have been put to better use in your morning eggnog
      Slàinte!
      
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      November 30, 2016 10:01am
      - Kimbo
        
        From your link:
        
        The Role of Egg Yolks
        
        Shortbread made without egg yolks are crisp, but crumbly. An egg yolk gives the cookies a finer texture, and cut-out cookie shapes have cleaner edges. A whole egg, however, makes the dough sticky and difficult to work with and results in tougher shortbread.
        
        Ah, but “difficult” and “tougher” appeal to my inner-Calvinist. Life, including food, was nay made for frivolity nor pleasure! 😉
        
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        November 30, 2016 11:35am
- Gabby
  
  …and crushing defeat, the Scottish national dish.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:39am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    You’d be familiar with that feeling aye Gabby.
    
    You must be glad summer is almost here, I understand the council flats are pretty cold over winter.
    
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    November 30, 2016 8:42am
    - Gabby
      
      Your national dish must be crow.
      
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      November 30, 2016 8:46am
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Prefer chicken, I’ve simple tastes.
        
        Probably why I enjoy your humour so much Gabby
        
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        November 30, 2016 8:54am
  - Kimbo
    
    Our forebears used to come south of the border and wreak havoc on the English by burning their women, stealing their cities and ravishing their sheep (I think I’ve got the order right).
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:15am
    - RF
      
      The scots never trusted English wooden outdoor structures. They used to collapse under their feet. There was a rope handy but that contributed to the problem.
      
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      November 30, 2016 2:47pm
    - Viking2
      
      So you are from the same ancestry as john boy then?
      
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      November 30, 2016 8:09pm
      - RF
        
        My ancestors were hired thugs who used to borrow cattle and the odd sheep from the English. If you approached john boy bothering sheep you would ask him ….. are you sharing this sheep.. not are you shearing this sheep.
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:49pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Kimbo, You forgot the wee dram. ?
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:47am
  - Kimbo
    
    Indeed. Given the food on which they subsisted, is it any wonder the Scots specialised in alcohol? Especially as their forms of music with which to enjoy it were not especially melodic. The Irish invented the bagpipes, exported them to Scotland…and the Caledonians still haven’t got the joke 😉
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:19am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Quite so Waikatogirl. I think I’ll pull the cork out of my Glenlivet 15yo tonight (purchased from the distillery last year), and toast St Andrew. In fact, it’d be extremely rude not to!
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:22am
    - RF
      
      I have joined you with a 10 year Glenmorangie. Not perhaps in your class but a nice drop.
      
      Your good health.
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:52pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    No need to wait for a special occasion to enjoy the golden liquid KS.
    
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    November 30, 2016 11:01am
  - tom hunter
    
    Speaking of which…What does a £15,000 whisky taste like?.
    
    £15,000??????
    
    One of the viewers was Colin Hampden-White, Editor of Whisky Quarterly magazine. What did he make of the 1972?
    “The second instalment of the DCS released in the autumn of this year is certainly a continuation of the quality of the first”, he says, “the cream of the crop is the 1972 forty three year old. With subtle notes of honey and sandalwood, soft spices and delicate dried fruits, including apricots and papaya, this is a dram to savour. A veritable treat”.
    
    Uh huh! I very much appreciate a good whiskey (or four), but I detect a hint of minty bullshit here!
    
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    November 30, 2016 11:09am
PhilBest

I thought this was a nice article, bringing some clarity to the matter of building earthquake standards:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86936599/geoff-thomas-why-buildings-respond-to-quakes-differently

Geoff Thomas: The whys and hows of building responses to quakes
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November 30, 2016 8:18am
- mandk
  
  It is a good article.
  
  I got to the end and awarded myself a B+ in Structural Engineering 101.
  
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  November 30, 2016 9:27am
jcuk

Anyone hear the stupid Minister trying to justify her actions to an aggressive Kim Hill this morning?
Her woffle clearly irritated Kim …great stuff 🙂
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November 30, 2016 8:30am
- mikenmild
  
  ‘stupid Minister’? You’re going to have to narrow it down for us.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:34am
  - holysheet
    
    Probably a minister in Destiny church trying to defend the Bishop stealing all the dosh.
    
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    November 30, 2016 8:40am
- VicParking
  
  Kill Hill was a total idiot. Not once did she let Anne finish a sentence and seemed to assume that Anne had spoken to each and every abused child. The MSM seem to think that ministers make all decisions and are experts on everything. Ministers make decisions on ADVICE from highly qualified staff not by looking at the remains of the cornflakes in their breakfast bowl.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:42am
  - MCos
    
    The buck stops with the Minister, not her advisers. She’s the one that makes the decisions.
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:25am
  - Paulus
    
    It is Kim Hills way to continually interrupt whoever she interviews to show her absolute superiority.
    Rude b…ch but to be expected from very highly paid media persons on Red Radio.
    She is not alone.
    
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    November 30, 2016 1:24pm
Inandout

I always thought vegans were mentally unstable, but trying to drag Hindus into the argument is ridiculous. I am sure a Hindu shopkeeper wouldn’t refuse to accept a banknote made from animal fat.

https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-england-remove-tallow-from-bank-notes
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November 30, 2016 8:57am
- Albert_Ross
  
  And if he did, how would that be anybody else’s problem but his own? His customers have other options, and even if they don’t then somebody will quickly spot the opportunity to supply them.
  
  This putative Hindu shopkeeper has made the personal choice to abide by the requirements of his faith; that is his right.
  
  But it is not a right that confers obligations on anybody else. In economist-speak, he cannot externalise the costs of such a choice.
  
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  November 30, 2016 9:30am
- rangitoto
  
  They might if it was cow fat. One of the reasons that the Pandy’s mutinied was over rumours that their rifle cartridges were greased with a mixture of cow fat and pig fat. The Raj upset both the Mozzies and Hindu’s.
  
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  November 30, 2016 12:15pm
VicParking

It seems that the two most popular words used by the MSM these days are “COULD” and ” POTENTIALLY”.
Facts these days seem to be not as important as maybe’s. Mind you a number of contributors to this blog seem to have the same disease.
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November 30, 2016 9:21am
Morrissey

Sex pest’s daughter declares: “If he wasn’t my father, I would spray him with mace.”

http://www.salon.com/2016/11/25/ivanka-trump-allegedly-responded-to-donalds-creepy-comments-in-2006-if-he-wasnt-my-father-i-would-spray-him-with-mace/
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November 30, 2016 9:24am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Shee-it, never heard or seen this article before! That’s massive!!
  
  How could have been voted in!! Why didn’t the media tell us!!
  
  I really hope something gets done, something like a lefty-wanker in New Zealand puts up a post on a blog that gains world wide traction and gets Trump out of the Oval Office! A perfect storm started by a little butterfly called Morrissey
  
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  November 30, 2016 9:30am
  - Morrissey
    
    Thanks, my friend. After his downfall, induced by my post this morning, I’ll host a morning tea at Chez Breen—and you’re invited!
    
    http://phish.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/PartyTime1.jpg
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:33am
    - Garbageman
      
      4th rate stenographer is outraged….outraged I tells ya !
      
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      November 30, 2016 11:37am
  - Manolo
    
    Is Morrissey mad?
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:47am
    - Morrissey
      
      Quite possibly, Manolo.
      
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      November 30, 2016 10:14am
- howitis
  
  The Donald WON.
  The Clinton Criminal LOST.
  Na.. na… na.. na… na
  
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  November 30, 2016 10:27am
  - jonar
    
    Clinton isn’t a criminal according to The Don.
    
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    November 30, 2016 3:23pm
Griff

A12 Possum Trap.
http://www.goodnature.co.nz/
A month ago I brought one of these to try out on my block.
First week set two possums dead.
Second week after receiving advice from previous owner on position for trap four possums gone to meat their maker .
last two weeks only one .
A total of seven dead asuuie tree killers. I can see seedlings and rata vines recovering already .
The trap seems to be effective and reliable eradicates possums from the local area with little effort .
Next month I will buy one of their stoat/ rat traps and reduce their numbers as well
If we all make an effort reducing the damage by introduced pests is achievable .
Now if someone would make one for the herd of bloody big wild pigs I have rooting up the paddocks life would be good..

Disclaimer:Griff has no finical interest in this product just thinks it works so well more need to be out there killing vermin.
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November 30, 2016 9:32am
- Awww C-mon
  
  I’d be keen to sort out the pig problem for ya Griff!
  We could get go vege along as well, that would be a huge dilemma for the old dear, save the bush or the piggies??
  Then all that bacon we could make!! Poor little vege would be freaking ?
  
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  November 30, 2016 9:39am
  - Griff
    
    Have contacted a gun nut friend to come and kill the pigs .
    Wild pork num num.
    Also had a meeting with a local bee keeper to position hives on the land . I will get a ten percent cut of the honey off ten hives for giving him access and a secure place for his bees .
    
    Wild pork basted with home grown tea tree honey… to die for
    
    life is good .
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:48am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Mmmmm party at Griffs!
      
      Wild Pork with Honey Basting, roasted vege (and that’s just the convo) and perhaps some smoked bloggers ?
      
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      November 30, 2016 10:39am
      - GoVege
        
        Well eating pig is getting quite close to cannibalism, Awww, their organs being interchangeable with ours.
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:48am
      - Lance
        
        opps.. sorry Go Vege.. hit the report button by accident.
        
        Anyway.. Pork close to cannibalism?
        Well all I know is pork tastes delicious,
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:55am
      - GoVege
        
        I know, Lance.
        I reckon it’s because our ancestors would have never survived through all those ice ages without resorting to a bit of cannibalism.
        The delicious aroma of pig cooking no doubt conjures up an ancestral memory of the measures our brave forebears had to employ for the human species to survive.
        
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        November 30, 2016 11:23am
      - Awww C-mon
        
        mmmm the other white meat
        
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        November 30, 2016 12:26pm
  - GoVege
    
    I ain’t old yet Awww.
    You ageist as well as speciest now?
    You can hunt wild pigs to your heart’s content.
    Better than eating those poor little domesticated piggies imprisoned in sow crates.
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:45am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Don’t knock it ’til you’ve tried it GoVege 😀
      
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      November 30, 2016 11:28am
    - Garbageman
      
      Why do your post always make me hungry Veg its almost criminal since im stuck at work and cant access my freezer full of goodies from here
      
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      November 30, 2016 11:45am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Last night I made vegetarian lasagna with left-over kidney beans, tomatoes, zucchinis and a cheesy sauce.
        
        Although, it cooked up nicely, etc… it was pretty dire fare.
        And I was starving within a half-hour… so I then loaded up on slatherings of peanut butter on crackers.
        
        It’s back to dead animals today, thank goodness.
        
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        November 30, 2016 1:39pm
      - GoVege
        
        Just trot along to your local abbatoir and have a peek, G Man.
        That will help turn you onto veges….
        
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        November 30, 2016 2:33pm
      - Griff
        
        Why do you think that Go veg?
        I have worked on the line as well as killed and butchered my own food.
        it is…..
        Natural.
        life feeds on life no need to get all precious about it .
        
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        November 30, 2016 2:38pm
      - RF
        
        Replying to Maggies post. Peanut butter on crackers… beautiful. I used to get Smuckers peanut butter and jelly from the US Deep Freeze base in Christchurch. I think it was strawberry jelly that was swirled through it. To die for.
        
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        November 30, 2016 3:35pm
      - GoVege
        
        Griff: it’s not natural for primates to feed on other animals.
        
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        November 30, 2016 6:33pm
      - GoVege
        
        BTW Griff, did you ever have to kill ba…I mean Bobby calves?
        
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        November 30, 2016 7:12pm
      - GoVege
        
        That lasagna sounds good Maggie.
        The trouble with meat eating is the flavor is so strong, you can hardly taste more subtle flavors.
        Once you give it up, you will be able to really appreciate vegetables.
        
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        November 30, 2016 7:16pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @go Vege
        
        I am a gourmand and I know the difference between
        subtle and making-do with yesterday’s left-overs.
        
        I eat loads of vegies, each & every day, and have acquired many tricks to fool the hubby into eating a goodly portion of greens and root vegies….. but no matter how you disguise them dried beans are unexciting.
        
        Anyway, I do have sensitivities toward the animal world… I don’t eat invertebrates (unless, it’s rude not too).
        
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        November 30, 2016 7:32pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @GoVege….
        
        You haven’t studied biology have you?
        Most primates are omnivores
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate#Diet.2C_feeding_and_hunting
        
        Chimps and bonobos hunt other mammals and eat them
        https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14926-loving-bonobos-have-a-carnivorous-dark-side/
        
        Tarsiers are obligate carnivores
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsier
        
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        November 30, 2016 7:45pm
      - GoVege
        
        Maghie: surely you noticed the attached link was describing “the dark side” of these primate cousins of ours who occasionally go carnivorous.
        Theres a message there.
        
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        December 1, 2016 1:17am
    - Garbageman
      
      in reply to your comment below, Im from Southland Vege I don’t need to go to an abattoir they build real men down here most of the meat venison/pork/ lamb I have has been processed by myself as well + in another life I contracted to a local freezing works not as bad as I thought they would be quite humane really unless you dislike a bit of blood & guts that is or that vile Halal practice that’s where you should focus your disgust
      
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      November 30, 2016 2:43pm
      - Garbageman
        
        below hmmm maybe above is what I meant duh
        
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        November 30, 2016 2:55pm
- calendar girl
  
  Do they have anything comparable for rabbits?
  
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  November 30, 2016 11:25am
emmess

“He gave me everything I have,” said Angela Suarez Narajo, a nurse, through her tears. “He was like a father to us.”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-38139541

That’s why you ain’t got shit, duh.
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November 30, 2016 9:37am
EAD

No surprises here given all the Muslims Merkel has let in over the past year – “anti-semitism” up threefold in Germany in one year:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/29/antisemitism-up-threefold-germany-one-year/#comment-3026522842

If the rise of so called “anti-semitism” is really bad as they’d have you believe, why does the Council of German Jews directly opposed the Alternative for Deutscheland, the only party that wants to put a halt to Islamic Immigration?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/german-jewish-leader-rise-of-populist-afd-frightening/

Just like they funded Hillary and oppose Le Pen in France, why is it do Jews when they are in Goyim countries oppose the people and parties who try to put a stop to Muslim immigration (all the whilst maintaining a Jews only immigration policy for Israel?
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November 30, 2016 10:26am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, it is a sad and regrettable aspect of human nature ( like yours ) to seek to find scapegoats of which Jews are a favourite to all kinds of social and economic woes .
  
  Jews are just as likely to embrace anti immigration causes as we have seen with those Jewish billionaires like Sheldon Adelson who supported and donated to Trump and his election campaign .
  
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  November 30, 2016 10:46am
  - stephieboy
    
    14 x downticks strongly suggests there are considerably more closeted anti semites among KB posters .
    
    Declare yourselves !
    
    http://forward.com/opinion/354275/on-election-eve-i-called-out-anti-semitism-among-trump-supporters-their-res/
    
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    November 30, 2016 1:56pm
    - pentwig
      
      Who cares a fuck what you think daffy.
      Argue with yourself.
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:26pm
Manolo

The MSM hints at this Muslim terrorist being a lone wolf:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/four-still-hospitalized-ohio-state-attack-terror-probed-153240153.html

A Somali immigrant who injured 11 people at Ohio State University in a vehicle and stabbing attack before he was shot dead may have followed the same path to self-radicalisation as militants in a number of “lone wolf” attacks, U.S. officials said on Tuesday.
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November 30, 2016 10:31am
- nasska
  
  …..”may have followed the same path to self-radicalisation as militants in a number of “lone wolf” attacks”…..
  
  I wouldn’t believe any explanation the Western authorities may offer after any Islamic atrocity. Every militant is a lone wolf…..that’s the standard response regardless of the facts.
  
  If they told us the truth we may query the mass emigration of the followers of the killer cult.
  
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  November 30, 2016 10:44am
- EAD
  
  But Manolo,
  
  this is so enriching. I hope more Somalis will bring this sort of excitement to our streets here in New Zealand too. It’s one of the benefits of diversity and an edgy culture. I’m sure the victims will agree, and in any case, victimhood is a social construct. They’re not really injured, that’s just the normative standard of an ablest society. They’re just differently-abled now, or in the case of the deceased victim, ‘living-impaired’. These differences should be celebrated, as they add to the vibrancy of our culture and create excitement.
  
  ///sarc off///
  
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  November 30, 2016 10:46am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD , how are Somalis defiling our society ?
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:52am
    - Manolo
      
      Would you choose to live in urbane, civilised and Muslim Mogadishu, comrade stephieboy?
      
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      November 30, 2016 11:07am
      - stephieboy
        
        Manolo, would you like to live here ?
        
        http://www.carryology.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/SlumDogging40.jpg
        
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        November 30, 2016 1:59pm
    - starboard
      
      Stiffybot. Why would you import muslim people from a war torn country who only know violence, mayhem and bloodshed. They have seen shit on a daily basis that we have only seen in the worst of the worst horror movies. They are mentally fucked up. They only know violence. To them, a simple disembowelment and head removal is standard practice when fighting.
      Intestines stretched across the road as a make shift roadblocks. Women and children hacked to pieces with machetes. We don’t want or need this sort of mentally broken people in our country. The risk to our civilised way of living is too high. The best thing really, is for you to go and live among them..go to Somalia and live among the stench and filth, the hellfire and brimstone. Give me your bank account number, I will pay the airfare..but its one way. Otherwise..just STFU because you know nothing.
      
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      November 30, 2016 11:17am
      - stephieboy
        
        starboard , a day in the life of Mt Roskill and Hamilton ?
        
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        November 30, 2016 2:06pm
  - dime
    
    the average IQ in somalia is 68.. lower than mr f gump.
    
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    November 30, 2016 12:46pm
    - stephieboy
      
      dime , and certainly much better than yours !
      
      http://somaligraduatejournal.org
      
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      November 30, 2016 2:01pm
    - GoVege
      
      How would you know that, dime?
      I’m sure Somalia has no budget for IQ tests.
      
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      November 30, 2016 6:35pm
Manolo

The NZ Greens will love it:
http://www.fox5ny.com/news/220448846-story

California is taking its fight against global warming to the farm.

The nation’s leading agricultural state is now targeting greenhouse gases produced by dairy cows and other livestock.

Despite strong opposition from farmers, Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation in September that for the first time regulates heat-trapping gases from livestock operations and landfills.
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November 30, 2016 11:01am
Manolo

Killing the dynasty dream for now:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/president-obama-michelle-will-never-run-for-office-182845749.html

President Obama says both he and first lady Michelle will be “very active” in working with people at the grass-roots level to support progressive causes once he leaves office. But despite her popularity and natural public speaking ability, Michelle isn’t interested in a career in politics.
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November 30, 2016 11:05am
Fletch

American economy much worse off now than before Obama in just about every way.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/29/americas-economy-before-obama-versus-after-obama/
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November 30, 2016 11:55am
- Gabby
  
  That’s a do-nothing reblubbiblubby congress for you.
  
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  November 30, 2016 12:12pm
  - starboard
    
    Take ya thumb outa ya mouth gobby..no comprehen-day.
    
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    November 30, 2016 12:28pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Are you sure it’s a thumb in Gobblin Gobbys mouth?
      
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      November 30, 2016 12:33pm
- Kimbo
  
  Um, didn’t he take office just after the GFC hit…and GWB had already started the bailouts?
  
  Is the same foolish standard of judgement that criticises and blames Key for the increase in government borrowing on his watch
  
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  November 30, 2016 12:16pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , now how can that be with unemployment at 4.9% ?
  
  We look forward to Trump achieving a full say 0.01 % restoring full employment in the rust belt and among poor whites with his trade wars !
  
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  November 30, 2016 1:53pm
Fletch

Linda Tripp on Hillary and her loss.

All this occurred due to a fundamental Hillary truth: It is first, last and always all about her. Period. It was never about her supporters in the hall or voters across the country. They are routinely forgotten once the votes are tallied and she resurrects their importance only if and when the next election approaches. They have always been nothing more than a means to an end. They are not living, breathing, feeling individuals.

The fact is, Hillary Clinton still cannot comprehend or accept what she believes is an inconceivable outcome of the election. She never will. Her likeness was supposed to grace our currency decades in the future. That was the plan. Instead of leaving the national stage with grace and dignity, she is hanging on by her fingernails. This time she is using the inconsequential Jill Stein to do her public dirty work.

So as the President-elect conducts a well-disciplined transition and prepares to lead the nation in a matter of weeks, the country will simply have to endure Hillary’s behind-the-scenes temper tantrum. With strains of “Hail to the Chief” echoing silently in her mind, all else pales for Hillary. Unity be damned. She’s going for it. Not for the good of the country. Never for the good of the country. It is for personal achievement, for personal gain, for personal riches. And that’s the gal I know.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/29/hillary-clinton-hail-thief/
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November 30, 2016 12:08pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I hear the damage to the walls in her hotel room from flying vodka bottles is legendary.
  
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  November 30, 2016 12:22pm
- GoVege
  
  Why would anyone care what Linda Tripp thought about anything?
  
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  November 30, 2016 6:28pm
  - Fletch
    
    She worked in the WH and helped bring the Lewinsky case against Bill. She knows very well what Hillary is like. She worked there when Vince Foster’s death happened and saw how it was handled etc.
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:55pm
    - GoVege
      
      Fletch…you forgot to mention that Linda Tripp secretly and illegally taped the private conversations with a 21 year old intern who trusted her and was hoping for advice from an older woman friend.
      
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      December 1, 2016 1:20am
Ross12

Will Angela Roberts & co please explain this result

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/319264/nz-10-year-olds-worst-at-maths-in-english-speaking-world
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November 30, 2016 12:21pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Ross12,
  
  It’s not the teachers’ fault – it’s the curriculum. It’s insane.
  
  See Traditional vs Reform Mathematics in NZ and the US
  and Back-to-basics call on maths – read the linked report, Unaccountable – why millions on maths returned little.
  
  There’s a quote in the above article from someone that typifies the dislike the ideologs have against the more traditional way of teaching maths : “But if we go back to traditional maths, that’s just training kids to be accountants.”
  
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  November 30, 2016 1:02pm
  - cmm
    
    Elsewhere a teacher gets into trouble for giving extra biology lessons to a year 13 pupil.
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/87022944/female-teacher-who-had-sex-with-dunedin-student-named-and-stripped-of-registration
    
    I’m not really sure I see the problem this. I know both boys and girls (17 yo+) who had sex with teachers with no harm done.
    
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    November 30, 2016 1:15pm
    - Griff
      
      Professional standards.
      You dont use your position of authority to innate sexual contacts with clients .
      This goes for doctors , lawyers, teachers or any other professional occupation that deals with the public.
      That you dont think this should be so is rather worrying .
      
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      November 30, 2016 1:24pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Probably it was only frowned upon because it was a straight encounter.
      I’m sure if it was a gay or lesbian tryst the teacher would have been lauded as a visionary in terms of helping prepare rainbow youth for the challenges ahead.
      
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      November 30, 2016 2:26pm
  - Ross12
    
    Lucia
    I wasn’t getting at the teachers and I think you are right about the curriculum.
    I was really having a dig at the Roberts & co who continually tell how we have a world class education system and so don’t need changes or alternatives like Charter Schools.
    
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    November 30, 2016 2:37pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      Ross,
      I can agree with you there!
      
      I listened to an interview with Roberts on her take on NZQA’s inability to ensure the current maths exams were free of errors, and yet she could only give them a “not yet achieved” for their failure. That would be fine if NZQA were learning and therefore expected to make mistakes, but they are adults and at some point getting errors in what should be easy exams for their experts, points to a massive problem. Yet, she couldn’t say that. In my opinion, the standard setter ought to set an example for excellence rather than continually prove their incompetence.
      
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      November 30, 2016 4:22pm
- Biscuit
  
  Ross12. I am sure that Angela and the other teacher union mobbess (and their Labour MP puppet (muppet?) Chris Hipkins) could quote you every last dollar that they feel our teachers ought to receive/be paid for by us taxpayers.
  
  But ask them for a bit of accountability – like explaining how their funding is improving our kids’ education – and they run away faster than Beauden Barrett, ha…
  
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  November 30, 2016 3:32pm
Manolo

Mamma Merkel and Eurocrats play hardball:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/29/donald-tusk-accuses-british-voters-backed-brexit-creating-anxiety/

Angela Merkel and Donald Tusk on Tuesday united to block Theresa May’s attempt to fast-track a deal which would have created an amnesty for British ex-pats and EU migrants UK post-Brexit.
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November 30, 2016 12:35pm
Viking2

Here’s an idea for the powers that spend taxpayers money.

We, us, the taxpayers own a company called Solid Energy. Its in a bad way BUT it owns millions of dollars of earth moving gear which it recently tried to sell and couldn’t give away. The kind of gear that could be put to work down Kaiapoi.

One wonders why the Govt. haven’t called them up and told them to move the gear there and get working. Just maybe the taxpayer could recover some of their funds.
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November 30, 2016 12:36pm
Lucia Maria

NZ 10-year-olds worst at maths in English-speaking world

The report said in maths, New Zealand students did best on statistics questions and at questions that tested their ability to apply their knowledge and reasoning, rather than knowing mathematical concepts, procedures and facts.

Just goes to show that NZ kids are bright, but are being failed by the abysmal experimental way maths is being taught here.

Personally, I’m going to have to do an intensive summer school with my 15 year old just to teach him algebra in preparation for next year.

Oh, and NZQA is also a complete failure when it comes to mathematics – they can’t even check their own exams so there are no errors!

NCEA maths exam botch-ups at every level
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November 30, 2016 12:36pm
- Viking2
  
  You will vote to change the education system then. Great
  
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  November 30, 2016 12:38pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Viking,
    
    there is no way to vote to fix up the way maths is being taught in NZ. Politicians rely on the education experts, who seem to be ideologically bent on destroying it.
    
    As I said, I’m going to compensate by teaching my son at home. He’s resisted until now, because he thought how he was being taught was fine … until maths just stopped making sense.
    
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    November 30, 2016 12:42pm
- Gabby
  
  National Standards will fix that. It’s going to start working any time … now.
  Now.
  
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  November 30, 2016 1:21pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    I agree, Gabby. From what I’ve seen, National Standards is just teaching the same fuzzy maths, and not making sure that core mathematical concepts are being taught clearly. Unless they’ve radically overhauled it in the last few years, which I doubt.
    
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    November 30, 2016 4:27pm
Manolo

The incompetent fades away:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/obama-on-his-legacy-trumps-win-and-the-path-forward-w452527
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November 30, 2016 12:49pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , and looking forward to Trump’s trade wars which will equal higher inflation and unemployment as well as billowing coal fired smoke stacks , poisoned water ways , smog etc, etc .
  
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  November 30, 2016 2:10pm
  - Fletch
    
    There, there, stephieboy. I’m sure it won’t be that bad. You’ve been listening to the American media for too long. I’m expecting that America under Trump will actually be pretty good. You’ll probably be pleasantly surprised. You might even become conservative.
    
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    November 30, 2016 2:19pm
starboard

Just past 10am on the GC taxdodgers ..29 deg with a cheeky breeze rolling in off the ocean. This place is a diamond, except for all the useless maori I see hangin around. Baggy pants, caps on backwards lookin for trouble. Meanwhile everyone else just gettin on with it in this fantastic climate. Surprised how cheap it is here food wise. Beers expensive, especially when compared to Thailand. So is fish..$56au a kg for tarakihi fillets. Petrol 91 $1.20 and on special for 99c. The most gorgeous stunning women in the country, a lot being tourists. SB chatting to a J Low lookalike at Jupiters last night..man alive, sheer beauty, hope she didn’t notice my full on cod piece.
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November 30, 2016 1:26pm
- Griff
  
  So you noticed “hers” story….?
  
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  November 30, 2016 1:36pm
  - starboard
    
    nice one griff..if I wasn’t so relaxed I’ll tell ya to..
    
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    November 30, 2016 2:03pm
    - Griff
      
      Tell away story.
      It will just be another episode in story’s imaginary holiday breaks and fantasy sexual conquests so should keep us amused for a while.
      Remember……
      laughing at ya not with ya .
      
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      November 30, 2016 2:15pm
      - starboard
        
        Sure thing Gwiff. How are the commune preparations going?..*snigger* I look forward to the day you fuck off into the northland abyss, only to hear about you again on the news after a couple of years, Jonestown cult style demise.
        Enjoy your Kool-aid fella.
        
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        November 30, 2016 3:00pm
      - Griff
        
        Its 2016 last time I checked story .
        We have these things called cellular networks.
        They mean I can be connected wherever I go.
        Once I get around to putting an aerial up I will have the internet at the block.
        To busy to bother at the moment. Presently its only when I come back to town that you are blessed with my charm,wit ,intelligence and insights.
        
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        November 30, 2016 3:18pm
      - starboard
        
        Nice..that way you can still look at your porn while playing with the bobby calves. Beats sitting on your other hand until its numb.
        Off to the beach , nice chattin Gwiff.
        
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        November 30, 2016 3:28pm
- stigie
  
  Easy Starboard, save a little for Milky’s mum ole chap..?
  
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  November 30, 2016 1:38pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Starboard:
  
  The Gold Coast is known as a place where you can have some exotic experiences. But a friendly tip: if you bump into a lady who introduces herself to you as Gable Tostee (or by her nickname Anne of Green Gables), I’d probably make a quick getaway, old chap!
  
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  November 30, 2016 1:48pm
  - starboard
    
    Lol..I thought he did a runner to NZ ? I would have locked the cranky cow outside on the balcony as well. What is it about grog and wimmin ? Some just go full feral after a teaspoon or two of vino. MM’s mum is the same..scooner of sherry and she’d put anyone off their breakfast.
    
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    November 30, 2016 2:06pm
- Biscuit
  
  starboard, many years ago now I was on the GC for Schoolies Week (which must be on about now in 2016, I guess)…
  
  Happy memories, cheap everything, loads of very accommodating uninhibited young lasses fresh out of classes!
  
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  November 30, 2016 3:37pm
LisaGinNZ

About all the whiny, college cry babies in the USA protesting PE Trump, I give you this next level video from TGP.

very, very funny stuff….

Video in this post: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/bwahahaha-must-watch-guys-epic-meltdown-trump-video/
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November 30, 2016 1:54pm
- stephieboy
  
  LisaGinNZ , exactly the same thing when Barack trounced Mitt 2012
  
  “5 Unhinged Right-Wing Reactions to Romney’s Defeat
  As the nation celebrates Obama’s election, some far right wingers are lashing out. !”
  
  http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/5-unhinged-right-wing-reactions-romneys-defeat
  
  20 sore losers 2012 that included Donald Trump !
  
  http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/the_20_biggest_sore_losers_of_election_night/
  
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  November 30, 2016 2:12pm
mandk

Sorry if I’m not up to the moment, but has anyone commented on the story about the boy at the Lower Hutt sports who was disqualified for not wearing shoes?

Funny thing is that, judging by his school (Wellesley College), he is from a privileged background, but happens to prefer running barefoot. Meanwhile, there are probably kids from poor families who are prevented from competing because they don’t have shoes they could run in.
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November 30, 2016 2:18pm
- Brigitte
  
  Yeah, I mean how could you run at the olympics if you are barefoot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zola_Budd). Oh,….
  
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  November 30, 2016 2:37pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Here’s a link for mandk’s comment.
  
  The context:
  
  A mother has been left fuming after her son was disqualified from a Lower Hutt athletics tournament for running in bare feet.
  
  Organisers say it was to protect the 10-year-old’s toes from spiked shoes, and to maintain an equal playing field.
  
  WTF – to maintain an equal playing field?
  
  I quite like what Sir John Walker said:
  
  Sir John Walker, 64, who won gold in the 1500m at the Olympic Games in 1976, said the situation was “political correctness all gone wrong”.
  
  “I ran in bare feet until I was 17 along with hundreds of other kids. Soon the kids of today will be unable to do anything due to the new health and safety rules. I am not a fan of these restrictions.”
  
  Yet another example of ridiculous rules.
  
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  November 30, 2016 2:48pm
  - mandk
    
    Agreed, the equal playing field argument is absurd.
    
    If that’s what they want, everyone should be made to run barefooted. And it would have the added benefit that no one would get spiked.
    
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    November 30, 2016 3:17pm
Jack5

Anne Gibson in the Hooerald has an interesting piece on Housing Minister Nick Smith and immigration. It includes this from Smith:

… where the Government did see some need for some possible change was around “student education programmes, making sure it’s genuine students and not back door immigration.”

If a move’s needed, let’s have it now before the shonky immigration agents of Asia pump in tens of thousands more on visas and the promise of citizenship.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11757685
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November 30, 2016 2:35pm
Jack5

Looks like the property bubble in Vancouver is being brought under control by the property transfer tax on foreigners.

Prices are down 11.9 per cent on a year ago.

https://www.zolo.ca/vancouver-real-estate/trends
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November 30, 2016 2:48pm
Kimbo

@ Jack5

Saw you post late last night on GD on Muldoon and Chris Laidlaw. Don’t have any reason to believe Chris Laidlaw was lying about the alleged confrontation. I’ve always thought he was an honest under-stated man – and, by his own admission unsuited to parliamentary politics because of it. Also, while he is a left-winger, he is of a moderate and pragmatic type, IMHO.

In hindsight I don’t think sports boycotts of South Africa changed much, if anything, about apartheid. Sending Bryan Williams with the 1970 All Blacks did!

Laidlaw was criticised by the likes of Muldoon (who was an absolute pragmatist on everything, including the apartheid and sporting contacts issue) for changing his mind over sporting contact with South Africa after having toured there with that 1970 team.

However, that overlooks the point that South Africans were always insisting “don’t judge us until you have come here and seen for yourself”, So Laidlaw, like John Graham before him in 1960 (and also Welshman John Taylor with the 1968 Lions, and later Bruce Robertson with the 1976 All Blacks) did…and in Laidlaw’s case he concluded apartheid was strengthened by an apartheid-era Springbok team. “Their way of life and politics were on the chopping block every time they played” is how he put it. And the proposed Springbok tour here in 1973 was going to be by a whites-only team, so, yes, in that respect, once again we would have been bending to apartheid, just as we did when Maori were deliberately omitted from the 1928, 1949 and 1960 All Blacks touring teams.

But then that wasn’t good enough for the saffers or the “keep politics out of sport” NZ conservatives. It’s like “you went there, enjoyed the braai, played the rugby…so they owned your soul/you were always in debt such that you owe the status quo your allegiance for all time”.

I’ve always found Chris Laidlaw one of the most fascinating All Blacks, different from the average jock, and for all the fuss his 1973 Mud in your eye caused, if you read it now most of it signalled where rugby was heading, despite the complacency of the time.
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November 30, 2016 3:03pm
Manolo

Qualiyt imports that prove multiculturalism is alive and well in the UK:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3982616/Romanian-immigrants-film-STEALING-British-supermarket.html

Two Romanian immigrants have filmed themselves giving a tutorial on how to steal from supermarkets in Britain.

One man, dressed in a blue jacket, takes centre stage with his thieving, while his friend records and laughs along.
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November 30, 2016 3:08pm
Manolo

A small victory for President-elect Trump:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/business/trump-to-announce-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html

On Thursday, Mr. Trump and Mike Pence, Indiana’s governor and the vice-president elect, plan to appear at Carrier’s Indianapolis plant to announce they’ve struck a deal with the company to keep roughly half of the jobs in the state, according to officials with the transition team as well as Carrier.

In exchange for keeping the factory running in Indianapolis, Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence are expected to reiterate their campaign pledges to be friendlier to business by easing regulations and overhauling the corporate tax code.
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November 30, 2016 3:11pm
- jonar
  
  Another good nytimes article
  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/28/business/dealbook/how-trump-could-ease-his-conflict-of-interest-problem.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
  
  Dear President-elect Trump:
  
  The potential conflicts of interest between your huge business empire and your future job have been well documented. The possibility that corporate interests or foreign countries could try to bribe you, as president, in both large and small ways is substantial.
  
  Consider this small example: Over the weekend, the chief executive of one of the largest companies in the nation — who was a Hillary Clinton supporter — told me he planned to have his staff stay at your new Trump International Hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue as an “easy way” to ingratiate himself with your new administration.
  
  As far as I have seen, so far you appear unfazed by the headlines about kleptocracy. “Prior to the election, it was well known that I have interests in properties all over the world,” you wrote on Twitter. “Only the crooked media makes this a big deal!”
  
  You have said that you have no plans to sell your companies or put them into a blind trust — which wouldn’t be effective anyway, since it’s impossible to blindly hold real estate assets that have your name affixed to them. In the meantime, there are reports that you may lease multiple floors of Trump Tower to the Secret Service for millions of dollars, which you would pocket.
  
  The entire situation is — how else to put it? — untenable
  
  Thank god he’s draining the swamp.
  
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  November 30, 2016 3:32pm
  - Griff
    
    The only place Trump will be draining the swamp is into his own pockets .
    He sold a bridge to a bunch of Ignorants.
    It will take a while for them to wake up from the stupor.
    
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    November 30, 2016 3:41pm
    - Manolo
      
      Quite ironic to see the word stupor being used by someone whose mind lives in a permanent state of suspension.
      
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      November 30, 2016 6:35pm
    - Griff
      
      Is it manoalcoholic?
      Give up the piss then you old sot and you might manage to keep up.
      Though your mind is probably to far gone already from pickling in poison.
      https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol-facts/health-effects-of-alcohol/effects-on-the-body/alcohol-poisoning/
      
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      November 30, 2016 7:29pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The imagination of drinkers knows no bounds….

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/87043212/police-oppose-gibbston-valley-concert-alcohol-licence
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November 30, 2016 5:12pm
Fletch

Watch: Cuban-Americans telling their grandparents that Castro died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoQMXxUcr4I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSiru_-njDQ
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November 30, 2016 5:13pm
Nostradamus

Question Time suspended as pro-refugee protesters call to ‘close the camps’ and ‘bring them here’

Close to 40 chanting pro-refugees protesters have caused chaos at Parliament House after supergluing themselves to railings and suspending Question Time.
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Activists from the Whistleblowers Activists and Citizens Alliance claimed responsibility for the protest. … In a statement, a spokeswoman for the group said protesters came to Parliament House to tell the Government to “stop the madness” and close processing centres on Nauru and Manus Island.

“Whistleblowers Activists and Citizens Alliance” – they should call themselves Whackos.

Greens leader Richard Di Natale thanked one protester and told her “we are so proud of what you have done”.

Nice to see that the Australian Greens leader thinks it’s ok to shut down Parliamentary question time – which, ironically, is precisely the time when Government Ministers are held to account.
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November 30, 2016 6:27pm
- Reid
  
  Let’s hope it’s a bitterly cold night as they wait for the superglue to wear off. Could be days. Their rellies are going to have to bring them food. They could all camp out and sing Kumbaya, as they listen to their relatives complain they’re getting a bit sore and they have to go to sleep standing up lest their skin be torn asunder so could someone please hold them up, as they didn’t think about that when applying the superglue, filled as they were with their compassionate self-righteousness, crowding out every other little thing, at the time..
  
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  November 30, 2016 6:38pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Reid:
    
    I agree that we should allow the protesters to make their point.
    
    In fact their timing couldn’t be better. The 2016 parliamentary sitting calendar indicates that tomorrow is the last sitting day this year. The 2017 parliamentary sitting calendar indicates that Parliament will reopen for business on 7 February 2017.
    
    That two-month period (with regular top-ups of superglue) should give the protesters plenty of time to make whatever important point (in their small minds) needs to be made!
    
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    November 30, 2016 6:45pm
Reid

For years, calling journalists “stenographers” was a punchline to highlight how feckless many journalists had become, where they looked to pull punches to retain “access.” There’s a reason you have lots of articles online mocking journalists because they became stenographers. There’s a reason that Stephen Colbert got such big laughs by calling White House correspondents stenographers. Because it was all too accurate:

Let’s review the rules. Here’s how it works. The President makes decisions. He’s the decider. The Press Secretary announces the decisions. And you people of the press type those decisions down. Make. Announce. Type. Just put ’em through a spell check and go home. Get to know your family again. Make love to your wife. Write that novel you’ve got kicking around in your head. You know the one about the intrepid Washington reporter with the courage to stand up to the administration. You know: fiction.

Back when he performed that, it was satire. Now here’s Wolff saying the same thing seriously. This is how far we’ve come…

Media Critic Calls On Journalists To Be Obedient Stenographers

from the wtf? dept

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161123/16560136128/media-critic-calls-journalists-to-be-obedient-stenographers.shtml
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November 30, 2016 6:30pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Netherlands bans the burqa

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-burqa-veil-ban-holland-votes-for-partial-restrictions-some-public-places-a7445656.html
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November 30, 2016 6:51pm
Lucia Maria

The rise of encore careers: why over-50s are changing patterns of working life

Since there are a number of over-50’s who hang out here, I thought some of you might be interested in the concept of encore careers that allow successful people to change pace and do something more socially satisfying.

In the United States, Marc Freedman set up Encore.org, “second acts for the greater good”, 18 years ago to make use of the experience, wits and wisdom of older people. He defines these second (or third or more) careers in the second half of life, paid – on an often significantly reduced income – and unpaid, as combining “greater personal meaning and social impact to improve communities and the world”. Freedman was among the first to recognise what was unfolding demographically. The combination of longevity – many of today’s newborns will live to 100 – and retirements that already stretch to three and four decades, plus the sheer numbers of baby boomers reaching their 60s, 10,000 a day in the US, meant that volunteering required an overhaul and the entry requirements and training for jobs with social impact needed to adapt to admit recruits who already had 30 or 40 years of experience.

Freedman established a one-year training scheme, “a fellowship” so that a banker interested in, say, community regeneration or a doctor wanting to work in literacy, had accelerated instruction and a network of support …

And in the UK, associate editor of the Financial Times, aged 57 has announced that she is retraining to become a maths teacher. However,

Men and women who have been teaching for years don’t take kindly to vintage amateurs, fortysomethings and older, arriving in the classroom. But, as she points out, an acute shortage of maths, science and language teachers has a negative impact on children and age may bring other benefits.

As a woman in my late forties who has just had to jump through several hoops just to get on to an introductory university maths paper because my University Entrance from years ago was potentially not equivalent to today’s NCEA Level 2 Maths (yeah, right), I am finding this overseas trend recognising those of us with experience to be valuable in radically different fields to be encouraging.
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November 30, 2016 6:53pm
- Reid
  
  Throughout history till recently, last say six decades, elder people were revered AND USED.
  
  As you know Proverbs says:
  
  The glory of young men is their strength: and the beauty of old men is the gray head.
  
  It’s only in those decades timeless wisdom exercised though the ages is no longer universally respected AND PRACTICED in favour of the gadget, fad, trend or happening of the moment.
  
  The way you can execute a change like that if you want to, is via controlled messaging in mass media and the education system with the political system directing. But it’s all done at glacial pace so no-one notices the change, year on year.
  
  If it’s not being done deliberately this universe has a coincidence magnet of some power somewhere. My point is, the malady to which you refer is a side-effect of these trends. They’re de-emphasizing the spiritual and emphasising the material.
  
  Respecting elders and appreciating what they have to offer (and offering them the opportunity to provide it) is a spiritual thing. It’s therefore anathema to the current worldview. It shouldn’t be, but it is.
  
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  November 30, 2016 7:10pm
  - nasska
    
    It could be that the accumulated knowledge we old timers have in abundance is no longer worth a pinch of goat shit Reid. Sixty years ago should you have a need to plait a buggy whip or a bent to recondition a steam engine then the elderly were a fount of information.
    
    What was critical sixty years ago is ancient history today. Realistically I know very little that is of possible practical use to my grandchildren.
    
    They on the other hand can teach me how to use my smartphone……the roles have changed.
    
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    November 30, 2016 7:59pm
Morrissey

A BLAST OF FOUL AIR FROM THE RECENT PAST….

Noelle McCarthy swallowed vomit for 15 minutes yesterday
National Radio, Tuesday 8 March 2011, 3.10 p.m.

Perhaps the S.S. Trust’s bloodthirsty führer Garth McVicar thought he was in for respectful handling and patsy questions from Noelle McCarthy yesterday. If so, he was out of luck. After a few introductory remarks, where she let him ramble on self-indulgently about his “exuberant” youth, in which he laughed about how he “pushed the boundaries” and “got into trouble”, she confronted him with his rotten, murderous hypocrisy…

NOELLE: In 2008, a man called Bruce Emery stabbed a 15-year-old boy to death in Manurewa. You came out in support not of the victim, but of the killer, Bruce Emery. Why did you support the killer and not the victim?

McVICAR: We found there was a lot of support for our stance. Our supporter database increased overnight. We were trying to spark a debate about entry-level crimes like graffiti.

NOELLE: Hang on! Were you just being provocative? Do you believe that Bruce Emery had the right to stab that boy?

McVICAR: [long pause] Errr, no I don’t, errrrr, nobody has the right to take another life.

NOELLE: So why did you say it?

McVICAR: Look, we were trying to get a public discussion going. We want the public to talk seriously about entry-level crimes like graffiti. I think people could see what we were saying, and they could look beyond this particular case.

NOELLE: All right, then. Let’s accept that there were people who could “see beyond” your support for the killing of that boy. Do you think even they could see beyond the David Garrett dead baby scandal?

…..

Read the rest if you can bear it….
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-09032011/#comment-306178
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November 30, 2016 7:20pm
- Reid
  
  Morrisey are you a troll? Or are you a self-righteous lefty plonker that hallucinates because in your opinion you “stick up for the victim” this gives you the right, nay the duty to “stick it” to the glorious conservatives every single chance you get, because that’s what makes life worthwhile?
  
  I’m happy to engage either way, I just like to know with whom I deal.
  
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  November 30, 2016 7:40pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Calling me a troll is a pretty lame attempt to belittle me, Reid. So is throwing around empty insults like “self-righteous lefty plonker”. It’s about as convincing as our friend David Garrett’s insinuation that I am about the only person who was affronted by Garth McVicar’s horrific behaviour after the knife-killing of Pihema Cameron. I think, from looking at some of your other efforts on this blog, that you are better than that.
    
    Yes of course I believe that the victims of crime deserve our sympathy and support. And I get really, really angry when people like Garth McVicar advertise themselves as “victim advocates” when they are, in fact, the precise opposite.
    
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    November 30, 2016 7:55pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Says the Hamas Hugger who doesn’t seem concerned with them inciting their people to stab Israelis. Wow, what a hypocrite.
      
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      November 30, 2016 8:12pm
    - Jack5
      
      Morrissey, you are trolling, and trolling from the intellectual sludge sump, the Standard. Posters leave footprints of shit when they bring Standard garbage into Kiwiblog.
      
      Your use of “SS Trust” exemplifies this, Morrissey.
      
      It seems to me that McVicar was in a roundabout way saying provocation mitigated if not excused the stabbing of the young tagger. I certainly don’t believe people should kill or physically harm taggers, but taggers are mongrels when they defile private property.
      
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      November 30, 2016 8:14pm
    - Reid
      
      Alright take you at your word Morrissey. So my response is:
      
      You’re painting McVicar wrong. You’re committing precisely the same logical error some of the sheeple here make when they rail against me for pointing out how dastardly their beloved Israel is when it slaughters more innocents.
      
      Both of you when you’re doing this are looking at the wrong thing, the victim, when you should be looking at the perpetrator.
      
      In your case your victim is also, in fact, the perpetrator, but you can’t see that.
      
      And it’s the same in the sheeple’s case.
      
      See, in the sheeple’s case, they hallucinate poor widdle Iswael beset by dweaded wockets of all kinds waining down on them day and night fowever and ever. And besieged on all sides 24/7/365 by gweat big meanies who can’t wait to destwoy them!
      
      (I know, the idiots forget that 300+ nukes grants Israel complete invulnerability but they can’t think of that, in their propaganda-induced outwage at the sheer twagedy.)
      
      And you do the same thing they do Morrissey, in pretending this guy had no responsibility but is rather the victim.
      
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      November 30, 2016 8:17pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Morrisey: (How unfortunate that you don’t feel able to stand by your opinions by putting your name to them)
      
      If you had the slightest idea how many hours McVicar puts in voluntarily and unpaid for victims you would be embarrassed…well, no, I guess you wouldn’t…you pious lefties are never wrong…
      
      Perhaps you missed the bit where McVicar said “No, I don’t…[he didn’t agree with what happened] nobody has the right to take a life”…What part of that statement do you find hard to understand?
      
      Do you understand a “but for” test by any chance? I’ll translate for you: If this unfortunate tagger had been at home where he ought to have been, instead of out tagging, he’d still be alive. (As I recall, his mother had abandoned him and gone to Australia, leaving him with some distant relative.)Instead he lost his life, and Emery’s was blighted for life. Shit happens, especially at night, on the streets of South Auckland…
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:00pm
      - mikenmild
        
        If this unfortunate tagger had been at home where he ought to have been, instead of out tagging, he’d still be alive
        
        Referring to a more proximate cause – he’d still be alive if someone hadn’t knifed him!
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:08pm
dad4justice

Is Beyond The Darklands on TV One tonight about Jason Sommerville a repeat?
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November 30, 2016 7:29pm
stigie

Even if it is a repeat Dad, you should watch it for your own good ole chap !~
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November 30, 2016 7:52pm
- dad4justice
  
  Unlike you stigfly I don’t hide my identity because I have a backbone and feature in the programme you twisted jellyfish. Your only highlight in your sad existence is downticking with your sick obsession. You’re a disgrace to mankind.
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:18pm
  - stigie
    
    Awww Dad, you gonna feature in the programme, awww how saucy will that be..? What makes you feel good Dad eh ?
    
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    November 30, 2016 8:25pm
    - dad4justice
      
      Watch it you no life creep. What a sick sad life you must have. People like you are beyond help you miserable fixated nutbar.
      
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      November 30, 2016 8:27pm
      - stigie
        
        Poor ole Dad, will you be able to hold it together until you seek some help..?
        
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        November 30, 2016 8:34pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Hey stigfly you are the fixated deranged creep that needs help you pathetic anonymous backstabber. Get a life!! I suppose living on your own in a rest home would make you bitter and twisted eh irritating fly.
        
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        November 30, 2016 8:36pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Crikey!
        
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        November 30, 2016 8:46pm
      - sam green
        
        Are you that creepy minister dad?
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:17pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Which guy are you Dad? I’m planning to watch plus one.
    
    How many scenes are shot at Hagley?
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:03pm
    - stigie
      
      Dad won’t kiss and tell !~
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:08pm
    - sam green
      
      He’s the lady in the pink top.
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:21pm
    - stigie
      
      Dad’s a good looking bloke Awww C-mon, you would never think he is the angry commentor above..?
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:28pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Excuse Me as I get slightly serious…
        
        1/ After seeing what violence can breed, why doesn’t Dad tone it down?
        2/ How do you get over knowing you were involved in that clusterfuck
        3/ Dad really has no place threatening people, because of the above and because a stiff breeze would knock him over
        4/ He has been updating his blog, anyone want volunteer to read it?
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:48pm
  - sam green
    
    Hear that stigie. You’re a damned disgrace.
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:23pm
    - stigie
      
      A total disgrace Sam, where do i go for shelter..?
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:31pm
      - sam green
        
        The shelter belt?
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:34pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    D4J:
    
    I have a backbone and feature in the programme
    
    TVNZ (and their fee-paying advertisers) will be wondering why the programme is a ratings bonanza. You might be able to wrangle some sort of commission out of TVNZ if you move quickly!
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:24pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      So he’s the guy on the show with a backbone?
      
      Now I’m confused?
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:31pm
      - sam green
        
        Most of them have backbones – except that blob in the corner.
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:36pm
    - sam green
      
      Actually – it’s all a bit creepy. Respect for trying to help dad.
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:43pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Agreed Sam, but damn he makes it hard to offer a bit of kudos.
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:55pm
      - stigie
        
        Sam:- We are all here to help where we can but there’s some out there that just won’t tolerate having a helping hand when given !~
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:55pm
    - dad4justice
      
      God help the fixated bloggers on here Nostra. Jellyfish filth make me sick. You keep good company here yeah right ! Fuck you all !
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:51pm
      - sam green
        
        I did offer a compliment – it’s not easy work what you did.
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:53pm
      - sam green
        
        Mind you – you’ve changed from when I last saw you.
        
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3434808/Pete-Burns-facial-appearance-shocks-CBBBOTS-viewers.html
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:33pm
Jack5

China is tightening up on money flowing out of the country and this is making it harder for rich Chinese to buy top properties in Australia.

Presumably the same is happening in New Zealand.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-28/cate-blanchett-s-sydney-home-hitch-shows-china-s-money-flow-fear
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November 30, 2016 8:03pm
Nostradamus

Here’s an ethical dilemma for GoVege:

Animal activists are up in arms and calling for change in the UK after confirmation Britain’s newly released five pound note contains animal fat.
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In the 48 hours following the announcement, more than 69,000 people signed a petition posted on Change.org calling for the bank to cease using tallow in future notes.

“The new 5 [pound] notes contain animal fat in the form of tallow. This is unacceptable to millions of vegans, vegetarians, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and others in the UK,” the petition states.

“We demand that you cease to use animal products in the production of currency that we have to use.”

The article quotes an angry Twitter user (who calls herself Angela). Angela will “no longer be accepting these notes”.

Well, bugger me, how does she expect people to pay her anything? Actually, if she’s on some kind of social welfare, then the government should insist on paying her in cash!
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November 30, 2016 8:45pm
- mikenmild
  
  Are those vegans planning to eat the money?
  No one is forcing them to use paper money, are they?
  
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  November 30, 2016 8:48pm
  - nasska
    
    “The cucumber and the tomato are both fruit; the avocado is a nut. To assist with the dietary requirements of vegetarians, on the first Tuesday of the month a chicken is officially a vegetable.”
    
    Author: Jasper Fforde
    
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    November 30, 2016 9:07pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      GoVege (further up on this thread) said:
      
      The trouble with meat eating is the flavor is so strong, you can hardly taste more subtle flavors.
      
      Thankfully, after much soul-searching, we found a simple solution: just say everything “tastes like chicken”!
      
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      November 30, 2016 9:19pm
      - nasska
        
        Good move Nostra. Unfortunately Go Vege tends to misunderstand my stance on the subject.
        
        I’m actually a vegetable rights activist! 🙂
        
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        November 30, 2016 9:26pm
      - GoVege
        
        Yes I know nasska.
        All you KBs identify strongly with vegetables but not with the fellow mammals you eat.
        
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        December 1, 2016 1:43am
Jack5

The case I link to below is why, in my humble opinion, NZ should have more liberal laws on firearms ownership, including pistols.

The maniac who attacked a carload of strangers in Christchurch will be out of prison within three years. Will his personality have changed sufficiently to make him a safe citizen? Of course not.

Morrissey and the like might argue that if innocent folk can carry pistols so will people like this road-rage maniac.

True, some such ratbags might slip through the quite detailed police checks we have in NZ and thus get a firearms licence.

However, if I and a carload of friends or family were under such attack I would prefer to have a chance to blow the head off the attacking maniac rather than for us all to die helplessly while he lived to get a wet-bus-ticket-slap-on-the-wrist sentence.

At the extreme, perhaps a carful of innocent people dead while a maniac merely “endures” a 10-to-14 year sentence during which he can have subsidised university education, TV, and internet access.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/87055521/victim-terrorised-by-memory-of-drugfuelled-road-rage
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November 30, 2016 9:23pm
- Griff
  
  Far more likely you would take that gun and blow your own head off with it than use it to protect yourself from a perp.
  In which case Darwin wins.
  
  According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.23 per 100,000 U.S. citizens); 11,208 homicides (3.5 per 100,000); 21,175 suicides; 505 deaths due to accidental/negligent discharge of a firearm; and 281 deaths due to firearms-use with “undetermined …
  
  Gun violence in the United States – Wikipedia
  
  Guns dont kill people Nuts with guns kill themselves.
  
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  November 30, 2016 10:13pm
  - Jack5
    
    Hello Griff, where have you been hiding?
    
    The problem with figures about suicide with guns, is that if those folk didn’t have guns they might commit suicide in another way.
    
    These are fairly old statistics, but indicate NZ’s suicide rate is higher than America’s:
    
    http://www.suicide.org/international-suicide-statistics.html
    
    World Health Organisation figures for 2012 indicate NZ has a lower suicide rate per 100,000 people than the USA (10.3 NZ, 13.7 USA) but both are well ahead of the UK – 7.0). Sweden, at 13.2, is close to America’s rate, and yet Sweden has gun control laws quite similar to NZ’s.
    
    The countries of the former Soviet Union have a high suicide rate, and I doubt Russia, for example, has liberal gun ownership laws. In fact I know it doesn’t.
    
    http://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.MHSUICIDE?lang=en
    
    Do you have statistical evidence there is a link between suicide rate and gun ownership?
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:28pm
    - Griff
      
      It is very easy to top your self with a pistol .
      Many make a rash move when pissed or in an emotional state and pull the trigger on their self defense weapon.
      It is not as easy to do the job without having a killing device sitting there ready to go .
      Very few ever use a weapon to protect them self’s. even less have the piece of mind and training necessary to use a gun in a critical situation successfully.
      More likely a gun in the house will kill you by your own hand, kill one of your loved ones or be used by a perp against yours.
      
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      November 30, 2016 10:41pm
      - Jack5
        
        Jeez, Griff, are you living on the edge?????
        
        You’ve painted a picture like one of the more sombre stories of Dostoevsky.
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:44pm
      - Griff
        
        No its a fact jack 5
        Even with training when it gets critical people dont respond like Rambo in the movies .
        They panic, do the wrong thing or freeze.
        This results in them getting shot or the shooting of Innocent bystanders .
        Our gun laws allow those with a need or interest in firearms to have access to them but restrict the weapons available to the crims to a reasonable degree .
        It also restricts the availability of hand guns that have no use other than as weapons of death for fellow humans .
        In the USA on the other hand the lax gun laws create more death and destruction than they prevent.
        We should never go down the track of the USA as many innocents would die as a result .
        By the way we have a relatively high rate of legitimate ownership of firearms.
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:58pm
      - starboard
        
        or kill someone if you are stoned off your little head..
        
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        November 30, 2016 11:37pm
  - Jack5
    
    Griff, if you read the link I provided you will see the road-rage maniac seemed to be blaming his LSD trip.
    
    Surely you don’t advocate a President Duterte solution to violent road ragers?
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:36pm
- Reid
  
  However, if I and a carload of friends or family were under such attack I would prefer to have a chance to blow the head off the attacking maniac rather than for us all to die helplessly while he lived to get a wet-bus-ticket-slap-on-the-wrist sentence.
  
  I guess the point is Jack since that very rarely happens to any of us in fact most of us live and die without that ever happening, is this because we don’t have the same weapon ratio as the Americans or because we’re so much wiser than they are?
  
  The only good thing about guns in America is it makes it exceedingly difficult nay impossible for Federal forces to feel secure, which is precisely what the Founding Fathers designed.
  
  But since in the US most guns are owned by complete idiots, they have this unbelievable number of emotionally-based gun-involved situations. A rellie of mine once told me it takes years of close familiarity with a weapon before you reach a point where you are capable of avoiding reaching for it no matter what the emotional provocation. That’s not a rifle of course that’s a weapon you have on your person.
  
  I think that’s why the US has an issue and the rest of us don’t: the pistol/revolver availability and market preference, not the availability per se. You look at all the countries with long guns, and not so much short guns, and none of them have this issue that the US does
  
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  November 30, 2016 10:24pm
  - Jack5
    
    Reid, a certain Christchurch jury reckoned suicide was feasible with one of your “long guns”.
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:39pm
RF

Spilt my single malt. Roy Morgan just out.

Wait for it… Labour 23. National 49.5.

Don’t let the door hit your arse Angry as you leave the caucus room.
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November 30, 2016 10:20pm
BeeSting

America and the American People are off their knees or are starting to get back on track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYunIrWDANU

Take Back your streets Take Back your Country
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November 30, 2016 10:23pm
- sam green
  
  From those pesky native Americans?
  
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  November 30, 2016 10:25pm
  - Reid
    
    From the slimy progressives sam. Aren’t they awful. Don’t you know anything? Do keep up.
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:35pm
    - sam green
      
      Sorry Reid.
      
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      November 30, 2016 10:38pm
  - Jack5
    
    Why aren’t you in North Dakota with the Kiwi bro’s, Sam?
    
    Their haka hasn’t been big enough to frighten off the local sheriff. More kapa haka bro’s needed.
    
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    November 30, 2016 10:38pm
    - sam green
      
      Perhaps you could go jack5. I’m a bit busy with my investments. I trust that you would know a few good haka moves.
      
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      November 30, 2016 10:42pm
      - Jack5
        
        Why don’t we invite Sitting Bull’s descendants from Dakota to NZ?
        
        They took refuge in Canada for four years in Queen Victoria’s day. They called Canada “the grandmother’s country”.
        
        There are bugger all of them now, and the only famous North American Indian I know of in NZ, controversial World War 1 army scout, Starkie, from Southland, served this country well – most of the time.
        
        But there are few others around NZ with native North American genes in their family line.
        
        Your comment, Sam, “I’m busy with my investments”, is intriguing. What are you? A day trader? Are you trying to follow in the footsteps of the great John Key?
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:53pm
      - sam green
        
        Actually – come to think of it – Tiaki Rima has a nice ring to it. That settles it then – you are the most appropriate choice.
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:55pm
      - Jack5
        
        Sam, your 10.55 post’s “Tiaki rima”.
        
        Entered into an online Maori-English dictionary. It translated this as “save five”.
        
        Can you elaborate please?
        
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        November 30, 2016 10:58pm
      - sam green
        
        It’s a transliteration Tiaki Rima. Much like Hamuera is a transliteration for Samuel. Anyway – you’re wearing me out from all your intellectual tooing and froing- I must away to morning town. Ta ta.
        
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        November 30, 2016 11:05pm
BeeSting

Further interesting info on

AUSTRALIAS MASSIVE JIHAD PROBLEMS

If not for the good work of OZ security would
be as bad as France and America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Australian_counter-terrorism_raids

Paris Orlando etc etc and F*** know what else would have already happened multiple times if not for the good work of oz security

Date and Location

On the morning of 18 September 2014,

When is Melbourne Cup…….
Early November

Tuesday, November 4
Melbourne Cup Day 2014 in Victoria

Look at the Map
Read the Articles

A Quote
“Flemington
Flemington was one of the suburbs in which police executed search warrants.”

Anti-terror raids in Melbourne: Man charged with sending funds to Islamic State and Al Qaeda affiliate

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-30/counter-terrorism-raids-afp-and-victoria-police-melbourne/5778116?pfmredir=sm

The Raids were up and down but does anyone
want to speculate on why known I S I S supporters (now in prison)
are operating within Walking distance
of Flemington Race course?

Where 100,000 + infidel Kaffirs gather to drink and gamble

We can only pray that they keep up the good work
this christmas God bless them
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November 30, 2016 10:45pm
- sam green
  
  Do go on ….
  
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  November 30, 2016 11:01pm
BeeSting

https://www.jewishnews.net.au/top-cop-israel/53322

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/australian-police-are-now-training-from-the-best/

Both Countries have massive challenges

Which from a practical perspective is not a bad approach
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November 30, 2016 11:38pm
rangitoto

Rogue Morgan poll has Angry’s mob down to 23%. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
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December 1, 2016 12:01am
- zuletzt
  
  Roy Morgan is + or – 10% on its best day. Sheesh.
  
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  December 1, 2016 12:31am
Manolo

The Democrats continue to dig their own grave:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/308034-pelosi-holds-onto-leadership
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December 1, 2016 6:39am
Manolo

Whatever is necessary to keep prices up:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-30/opec-agrees-to-cut-output-by-1-2-million-barrels-a-day

OPEC will reduce output to 32.5 million barrels a day, Iranian Oil Minister Bijan Namdar Zanganeh told reporters in Vienna Wednesday. The breakthrough deal showed an apparent acceptance by Saudi Arabia that Iran, as a special case, can still raise production.
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