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holysheet

The apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree. The mofo racist John Hatfield’s son, John Hatfield jnr has been convicted and sent to prison for 11 months. His fists got the better of him and landed on the face of his 17 year old partner. Big brave warrior who saw what his father did and emulated his swagger and actions.

The judge wiped 15,000 in outstanding fines and 264 hours community service and sent him to jail. Just like the treaty settlement dosh, Krim.com’s pieces of silver didn’t trickle down the tree.
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November 24, 2016 8:02am
- mandk
  
  You missed the best bit (from the Stuff report):
  
  “Former MP Hone Harawira declined to comment on Wednesday afternoon.
  
  “You never bothered to say kia ora, so you can f… off,” he said.”
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:15am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    What kind of apologist for thuggery would downtick these comments?
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:19am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Oh, there he is again.
      Sad fuck.
      
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      November 24, 2016 8:21am
  - holysheet
    
    Whats Te reo for fuck off?
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:46am
    - Sofia
      
      whak ouwh
      
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      November 24, 2016 8:59am
- dime
  
  what a coward
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:27am
- Manolo
  
  The Harawiras, the scummiest family in the whole of NZ.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:29am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Yet they have their very own special day on February the 6th.
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:49am
- stephieboy
  
  Shalom Kiwi, you could of added to your list the Federation of Islamic Associations NZ. ( FIANZ)
  
  Auckland Imam permanently stood down after anti-Semitic speeches
  
  “An Auckland Imam who was criticised for hate speech against Jews has been permanently stood down from the Federation of Islamic Associations of NZ.
  
  Dr Mohammad Anwar Sahib was the Secretary for the Ulama Board, the Federation’s religious advisory board.
  
  His employment was terminated on Wednesday morning, effective immediately.
  
  Federation president, Hazim Arafeh, said in a statement that FIANZ condemn and reject any form of anti-Semitic or hate speech and will also not tolerate any derogatory comments and speeches against women….”
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86784089/auckland-imam-permanently-stood-down-after-antisemitic-speeches
  
  Now what more could one want other than Dame Susan Devoy’s office either issuing the Imam with a written warning or prosecuting him.
  
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  November 24, 2016 9:17am
  - markm
    
    Stephieboy
    “Federation president, Hazim Arafeh, said in a statement that FIANZ condemn and reject any form of anti-Semitic or hate speech and will also not tolerate any derogatory comments and speeches against women….”
    
    Translated as even though he’s been making these statements for years , now that its brought to the publics attention and we’ve been caught out , we will condemn it.
    We will probably also condemn other things he’s been saying in our Mosque if they ever become public.
    
    I think Shalom Kiwi is probably listing those who “voluntarily” condemn the hate preachers speech
    
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    November 24, 2016 10:34am
oldpark

In the American elections prior to the voting day of November 8, the person known as Barack Obama ,in his final rant ,encouraged “illegal immigrants” to vote in the elections. Seems up to three million took his advice. Bet they didnt vote for Donald Trump.
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November 24, 2016 8:07am
- SPC
  
  Why no link to the story – coz it is another lie?
  
  http://www.business2community.com/us-news/3-million-illegal-aliens-voting-presidential-election-unproven-claim-01708689#zXqwt8vj0ptwmOyi.97
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:12am
  - Lance
    
    Its a post-truth world
    Here-say and dodgy sources trump (pun unintended) any truth or fact checking.
    
    Just make shit up and then curse loudly at anyone that doesn’t support the narrative
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:20am
    - SPC
      
      According to white man behind a desk, the PC response to post truth politics is to accuse the perpetrator of murdering (TOP’ing off) kittens.
      
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      November 24, 2016 8:40am
- oldpark
  
  @ spc 8.12 am
  
  They would say that,even though it says they didnt listen to Barack Obama’s directive, and makes him sound a lot more inept and inane, than people suspected.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:45am
  - SPC
    
    Since 1996, a federal law has prohibited non-citizens from voting in federal elections, punishing them by fines, imprisonment, inadmissibility, and deportation.[3][4][5] Exempt from punishment is any non-citizen who “reasonably believed at the time of voting (…) that he or she was a citizen of the United States,” had a parent who is or was a citizen, and began permanently living in the United States before turning 16 years old.[3]
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States
    
    If you turn up to vote with voter ID AND attest you are a citizen then you can vote (in all states).
    
    But not all states require voter ID. And some states allow illegal immigrants drivers licenses – can be used as voter ID to register.
    
    However there is little evidence of non citizens voting.
    
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/nov/18/blog-posting/no-3-million-undocumented-immigrants-did-not-vote-/
    
    The claims of non citizens voting comes from these sorts of groups.
    
    http://electionnightgatekeepers.com/
    
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    November 24, 2016 9:40am
- Gabby
  
  Lying old fart or diaper wearing dementioid? The jury is out.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:53am
  - oldpark
    
    @gabby 8.53
    
    Everyone knows you are a soft in the head sick kiddy fiddler pedophile,and are only out on parole.
    
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    November 24, 2016 9:09am
    - Garbageman
      
      You must realise that’s how that idiot gets its kicks by trying to push peoples buttons best just to move on and ignore its munted ranting’s its also a commentator at The Standard that should sum it up for you
      
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      November 24, 2016 10:33am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Have you considered sticking to finger painting?
    
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    November 24, 2016 9:56am
SPC

President-elect Donald Trump’s charitable foundation has admitted to the IRS that it violated a legal prohibition against “self-dealing,” which bars nonprofit leaders from using their charity’s money to help themselves, their businesses or their families.

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/news/trump-foundation-admits-to-violating-ban-on-%e2%80%98self-dealing%e2%80%99-new-filing-to-irs-shows/ar-AAkCKMm?li=BBqddE1
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November 24, 2016 8:08am
kowtow

Hundreds of blacks murdered by the police …….media silence.

It only matters if there’s an anti American slant.

“Police officers in Jamaica carry out unlawful killings on the orders of state authorities or with their complicity, evidence gathered by Amnesty International suggests.

Research by the human rights organisation points to a strong likelihood that state-sponsored executions take place in the country, a report published on Wednesday said.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/23/jamaica-police-killings-amnesty-report
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November 24, 2016 8:12am
- mikenmild
  
  How do you get ‘media silence’ from a report in the Guardian?
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:16am
  - kowtow
    
    It’s all relative. Has this , will this be splashed across the TV and front pages of our media outlets.
    
    Won’t be. But dare a white cop shoot a black in the states , it leads here. But not when a black shoots a cop.
    
    Same with the violence against wimmin in central America, because it’s not about people’s rights , it’s about knocking whitey.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/nov/23/central-america-gangs-migrants-sexual-exploitation-prostitution
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:34am
    - Gabby
      
      You’re right.
      There’s way too much yanker crap in our media altogether.
      
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      November 24, 2016 8:55am
      - Biscuit
        
        Too much crap fullstop, Gabby.
        
        TVNZ is really dumbing down the quality of its news ‘hour’ – 8 to 10 minutes of ads, the same for bloody weather, summaries every 20 minutes of what we’ve already watched, a promo or two – good grief – for ‘what’s coming up’, financial stats that are shown as slides with no comment – with such drivel.
        
        And when we do hit ‘hard’ news. what do we get? Reports of, say, riots, fires, murders, floods in the USofA (because there were cameras there to get nice shots) but just a mention of a quake in Deepdoodooistan that killed thousands because, those fools, they didn’t have any cameras there to get us our nice pics. ‘Just put a map up on screen to tell the folk where the place is is before we move onto that cute tornado in Hicksville, Iowa…’
        
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        November 24, 2016 10:23am
EAD

The NZ Herald branch of the Lugenpresse this morning published a ~~hatchet job~~ prominent article headlined – “Inside the white-first world of the Trump-loving alt-right” about the National Policy Institutes recent conference.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11753866

Looking around the MSM this morning, the conference and the leaders speech has sent it into a full on ”they’re here, it’s happening” meltdown and they’re selectivity picking out bits, putting their full spin on it and trying to frighten readers of the dangers of the “evil alt-right”.

I’ve posted a youtube link to the speech itself so you can judge for yourself what all the fuss is about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-LnO2DOGE

The speech itself is excellent and deserves to be viewed in full. Spencer is on fire when he answers the left’s hysterics of wishing to not ”normalise” Donald Trump or the Alt-Right. Spencer asks of the left ”What is normal?” and then he brilliantly uses the left’s relativism against them:

Is it ”normal” that our governments silence us as they flood our countries with killers and religious nuts?

Is it ”normal” that the American military has whole armies stationed in Europe to ”keep the peace” while thousands of European women are raped by Muslims?

Is it ”normal” that the only moral position which can be held by the Western media and political establishments is one in which Europeans are demographically erased while being demonised as they dwindle away?
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November 24, 2016 8:16am
- fernglas
  
  “Thousands of European women are raped by Muslims”? That’s an appalling statistic.
  
  Are they Muslim or Christian women? Are the Muslims migrants or were they born in Europe? How many European women are raped by Christians? Are the incidences of rape proportionate?
  
  Can you show me the source of this information; I would really like to read more about it.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:25am
- EAD
  
  http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/697583/Rotherham-abuse-scandal-child-grooming-gangs-industrial-scale-victims-CSE
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD, that is a child sex abuse scandal . fern gals was I believe referring to rape of women above the age of consent .
    
    “Cologne sex assaults: Muslim rape myths fit a neo-Nazi agenda”
    
    One newspaper said the EU referendum was about the safety and security of British women.
    
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/cologne-sex-assaults-muslim-rape-myths-fit-a-neo-nazi-agenda-a6872566.html
    
    I think the above is what fernglas may of been referring to ,
    
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    November 24, 2016 9:53am
    - fernglas
      
      Thanks for that link, Stephieboy. I was anxiously combing the one EAD posted to find evidence of “thousands of European women” being raped by Muslims, and also to see how that somehow had something to do with US forces being stationed there. It seems that one source quoted by the Express said 1400 girls had been groomed by a child sex ring over a period of 16 years in Rotherham. Grooming is not rape, reprehensible though it may be. I still don’t quite see what that has to do with US forces stationed in Europe, although I await enlightenment from EAD.
      
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      November 24, 2016 10:30am
  - sam green
    
    Yeah EAD – have you got some similar links to the Westminster child sex abuse scandal(s) – particularly around how all the powers that be are bought into play, at the very highest levels in the land, to obfuscate any attempt at justice. etc etc etc
    
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    November 24, 2016 11:51am
- mikenmild
  
  ‘Lugenpresse’?
  Nice. Start the morning with a Nazi slogan.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:37am
  - tom hunter
    
    Not that you have any control over the MSM, but I trust you’ll withhold on contributing to their gleeful attempts at constantly linking Trump to these groups, on the understanding that – while it may be fun and politically productive to do so in tearing down Trump – the Left are actually giving valuable publicity to tiny bands of losers who are otherwise rarely heard from, starting with Spencer, who is over the moon at all this attention.
    
    There are lots of lessons of the media coming out of the Trump victory: this is one I really hope they learn.
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:49am
    - tom hunter
      
      I see that Stephieboi has not taken the advice and is pushing ahead on his hate-Trump agenda. As long as it gets a Democrat elected in the USA (and how fucked in the head is that thinking on a NZ political blog), who cares if it fuels the nascent White Supremacist movement. Actually it’s more grist to the mill for a dedicated partisan.
      
      But then Stephieboi is not the brightest penny in the Left-wing fountain.
      
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      November 24, 2016 9:47am
      - EAD
        
        @ Tom Hunter,
        
        who cares if it fuels the nascent White Supremacist movement
        
        If our movements ideal is to preserve Folk and Homeland, that is hardly being “supremacist” is it?
        
        The average African and the average Arabic speaking person, along with the average Chinese person, would consider our cause as quite normal, when we say that we do not appreciate mass immigration and race-replacing policies in Western countries. That is hardly saying “Whites are superior to others”, is it?
        
        Different and unique each in our own way, yes, but hardly “superior”.
        
        You really need to stop using MSM groupthink buzzwords – it’s clouding your ability to use the English language properly.
        
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        November 24, 2016 7:40pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Folk and Homeland
        
        Don’t you mean ‘Volk and Vaterland’?
        
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        November 24, 2016 7:50pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    EAD proves Godwin right mikenmild
    
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    November 24, 2016 9:03am
dime

did that misogynist Trump just appoint another woman to a senior position?

sexist pig.
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November 24, 2016 8:28am
- dime
  
  actually, hes appointed two more. shocking.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:40am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    And a lot better looking than many of the female politicians we have had to endure around the world. I know this is sexist, but what the hell, (Still think Italy has some of the best looking though)
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:29pm
- stephieboy
  
  dime , we can safely assume that given his past associations with the Clintons and as a past erstwhile supporter of the Democrats that he is in fact a “Deep Liberal ”
  
  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/28/does-trump-like-hillary-more-than-vets.html
  
  And also his past unenviable history mysogeny ,
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-
  
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  November 24, 2016 9:47am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    What, like defending rapists and philanderers? Give it up, it’s “President Trump” now.
    
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    November 24, 2016 10:09am
  - dime
    
    dam spam under my comments again.
    
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    November 24, 2016 10:54am
  - pentwig
    
    Tell me how you can safely assume that daffy.
    Please, I beg of you.
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:01pm
Happychappy

This is another reason you can’t trust Winston Peters NZ First or some journalists in NZ,The Hub has had to make a retraction with a apology to Dame Jenny Shipley for a story saying that the former national party leader had sat school cert twice and had failed and she was responsible for the failure of Mainzeal when in fact she had passed the exam at her first attempt and also had no roll in the Mainzeal collapse.The media love of Winston is again shown up in this story of lies as if John Key had said this about former Prime Minister Palmer every News Media in this Country would be calling for his demise or a public apology instead of a small retraction hidden with the rest of their story’s online
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November 24, 2016 8:31am
- Gabby
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Jenny Slippy made a bob or two out of it though didn’t she? Still any companies she’s involved with now are bound to be safe as houses.
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  That’s a FUCKING FULL STOP for you. Use it wisely.
  
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  November 24, 2016 9:19am
  - Happychappy
    
    Gabby take your toy out of you arse it might help you stop spewing the shit you post on KB
    
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    November 24, 2016 9:31am
    - Griff
      
      Here happy chappy . A free gift .
      
      ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
      
      Use them wisely….
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      Sometimes even I am astounded at my generosity.
      
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      November 24, 2016 9:41am
      - Happychappy
        
        No offence mean’t in this reply Griff but like everyone else on KB people do not have to read what i post and not even a jumped up prick like Gabby that does not respect what anyone posts will make me finish my post with a full stop.Funny thing is others actually have have done the same.
        
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        November 24, 2016 10:02am
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Phark, I thought those were only given out to Phool
        
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        November 24, 2016 6:03pm
  - Ole Bill Mole
    
    and a full stop or comma is always. Followed. By. A. Space.
    
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    November 24, 2016 11:08am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Sometimes I don’t even start the sentence without a capital letter. Really letting my standards slip, but hey, it’s only a post. Lighten up. I’ve decided life is far too short to let the little things become annoying.
    ?
    Those in glasshouses, etc.
    
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    November 24, 2016 11:29am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      Nah – it’s just lazy. It would certainly be easier to type a mess of shit and not correct anything.
      Imagine a book written like that – faaaaaaaaark me.
      
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      November 24, 2016 3:16pm
- howitis
  
  Shipley was a director of Mainzeal and its corporate legal owner Richina.
  https://www.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/individual/search?q=SHIPLEY+Jennifer+Mary&start=25&limit=25&entitySearch=&addressKeyword=&postalCode=&country=&addressType=&advancedPanel=&roleType=DIR&sf=&sd=
  
  From Wikipedia:-
  In December 2012 Shipley resigned from the board of directors of Mainzeal Property & Construction (MPCL), which went into receivership on 6 February 2013. At mid-day on 5 February 2013 she was one of four independent directors who resigned from the board of Mainzeal Group Ltd.[19] MPCL and Mainzeal Group Limited are part of the Richina group, controlled and majority owned by Yan Ci Lang (also known as Richard Yan).[20][21][22][23]
  In May 2015, the receiver of Mainzeal, BDO, filed a civil lawsuit against the former Mainzeal directors, including Shipley, for an alleged breach of directors’ duties.[24]
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  Also she was living in the upmarket Residential building in George Street overlooking the Auckland domain. Other owner occupiers were rich listers like Roger Bhatnagar. Mainzeal built the building – if you call it that. It was leaky despite the money paid by the owners. The owners association had to remove Shipley from decision-making as they fought Mainzeal for repairs. Shipley had a conflict of interest as a director of Mainzeal.
  
  Being a Director of Mainzeal she was directly in the responsibility chain even if she bailed hours before the receivership.
  
  This is the same Jenny Shipley that blabbed on TV that John Hawkesby was getting a $1 m settlement after his 2 or 3 days at TVNZ. The deal had not been made but allowed Hawkesby to leverage to get a $6 million settlement – of taxpayers’ money.
  
  ..the Saatchi Affair, where then-PM, Jenny Shipley, was found to have lied about a dinner engagement with Saatchi & Saatchi boss, Kevin Roberts. Shipley’s recall of that dinner engagement – and the topics of discussion – were at variance with what Roberts had claimed took place….
  
  I would trust Winston’s recall over Shipley. She is no intellectual giant more an opportunist.
  How bad are her mates: ….Richina Leather was sanctioned by China’s environmental authorities every year between 2004 and 2008…. Sanctioned for environmental damage in China year after year. That is pretty bad.
  
  Winston’s achievements: Introduced Goldcard; Formed a party more than 20 years ago that is still here; won a seat off National in 2015 that National had held for decades; Stood down from National in 1993 and won the by election against them ..again;
  Got a high number of Maori in to Parliament ..on the General roll not the racist roll;
  became Deputy PM by winning an election(1996) Shipley became PM via a coup ;
  is the only Party leader to actively oppose low quality immigration from shitholes;
  was correct about the upmarket criminals we bring in from China …hard to name them as they each have so many names ;
  has snotted the idiot Dildo Joyce many times eg Dildo tried to withdraw Goldcard, Northland by-election that Dildo ran …or not; correctly criticised the lefty f…wit Ben Affleck over the BS Argo story; etc etc running out of room….
  
  Jenny Shipley achievements : ……..birdsong……
  
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  November 24, 2016 12:23pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Was she held responsible or convicted for the collapse. And why have the Hub had to print a retraction.
    
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    November 24, 2016 2:56pm
    - howitis
      
      H/chappy
      This source from September 2015.
      It is a matter before the courts unless you have alternative information. These usually take a couple of years to work their way to court.
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/71987257/exmainzeal-directors-face-474m-lawsuit
      
      NZD 47.4 million suit against directors
      Extracts:-
      Liquidators Andrew Bethell, Brian Mayo¬Smith and Stephen Tubbs of BDO, allege the directors were responsible for allowing Mainzeal Property and Construction to trade recklessly.
      
      A further $15.151m is being sought from the directors ¬ minus Malaysian director SM Kwan ¬ over a debt restructure which Mainzeal and the liquidators claim breached their directors’ duties.
      The allegations are among several civil claims lodged,>>> according to court documents released to Fairfax Media<<<<…
      
      From Brian Gaynor of Milford Asset Mgt:-
      https://milfordasset.com/brian-gaynor-mainzeal-collapse-needs-investigation/
      extracts:
      …. It also shows that former politicians continue to make poor decisions when it comes to accepting board seats with former Prime Minister Dame Jenny Shipley now joining that infamous list….
      ….Thus, subcontractors effectively fund the construction group until they get paid.
      However, the subcontractors are in a terrible position if the company goes bust because they are unsecured creditors and are unlikely to be paid until all obligations to secured creditors have been met.
      
      Consequently, it is vitally important that PwC and the regulators carry out a wide-ranging investigation of the Mainzeal collapse because the Richina Pacific group of companies has had a huge number of related party transactions in the past…..
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      Gaynor's first point very relevant: ex poli's on boards:
      Doug Graham and Bill Jeffries at Lombard.
      Luxton and Creech at Blue Chip
      Shipley's mate Ruthless Richardson has had a poor track record on directorships incl I-Cap
      
      Banks and Brash at Huljich Wealth Management although they escaped the spotlight and Huljich took the fall.
      there are many more incl one ex PM I had dealings with and he was Chairman of a failed company but never took responsibility 'it was just one of those things' OPM. Yay.
      
      If you are going to downtick at least point out where I am factually incorrect. I would be pleased for the education by a more knowledgeable mind.
      
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      November 24, 2016 5:22pm
      - mikenmild
        
        correctly criticised the lefty f…wit Ben Affleck over the BS Argo story
        
        Could you please provide some more detail about this and how it ranks as one of Winston’s main political achievements?
        Thanks.
        
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        November 24, 2016 5:33pm
      - howitis
        
        Mike:
        I have run out of ‘reply; string so reply to my comment.
        
        Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: I seek leave of the House to move a non-controversial motion without notice and without debate to correct the grave misrepresentation of the courageous and commendable role of New Zealand diplomats in the 1979 Teheran hostage crisis in the movie Argo
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTrPe00tr0
        Video 80 secs
        Winston was in the House in 1979 – in Government no less – so is in a position to tell the truth.
        
        Affleck makes up stories, films them and calls them movies. I have not seen Argo and would never bother. It sounds factually incorrect (ignored effort by Canada and NZ among others) and Winston recorded a correction in Hansard.
        I am not giving a ranking to this achievement. It is among his many successes.
        
        Affleck, a lefty , is a well established and vocal supporter of Benghazi Hilary and defender of Islam
        http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/10/why-ben-affleck-defending-isla-2014106104141371662.html
        
        Where I do have difficulty is listing the successes of John Key in 8 years (14 in Parliament)
        Can you or anyone name 5?
        Ok, make it 3?
        Now I voted for his party the last 3 elections mainly because it was the least bad.
        Ironically many we forced to vote National 2014 because the person Nats let into the country – Kim DotCom – was funding a rogue element.
        
        Let’s see some of Keys achievements where he showed initiative and leadership and did not simply respond to a poll or nick one of Labour’s policies.
        RMA reform? A new flag? Euthanasia? taking away tax free status for dodgy charities? Stepping up over Teina Pora. Something? Anything?
        The economic side is run by Blinglish (with large borrowings) so not Key’s credit
        
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        November 24, 2016 7:05pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Argo was actually a very good film.
        But you, and Winston Peters, should understand that it was a film, not a documentary.
        Lots and lots of films are historically inaccurate: Braveheart, the 300, Alexander, The Patriot, just about any war movie, etc, etc…
        But good on him for making a stand, eh?
        As for John Key’s achievements, there are many others on this blog more qualified than I to list them…
        
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        November 24, 2016 8:37pm
geoff3012

Bugger….fat finger down click slip

Never mind we will all be gone from this earth in 10 years time…according to some climate warrior from university of Arizona…PH this morning….
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November 24, 2016 8:40am
holysheet

Yank fruit loop on Paul Henry this morning talking about global warming. This fuckwit stated we only had 10 years left before the end of the world happened.

No wonder Trump wants to curtail funding for this kind of nutter. He will go on writing reports that no one will be here to read in 10 years time, sucking on the taxpayers tit right up to the end. This wanker is good company for our resident doom and gloom expert.
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November 24, 2016 8:41am
- Steve Wrathall
  
  Just like Paul Ehrlich and Rachael Carson in the 1960s forecast environmental doom by now, this clown’s prediction will be added to the same sorry catalogue. And they wonder why no-one is listening to them anymore?
  
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  November 24, 2016 9:25am
  - G152
    
    There is a page on the Net that details most of the ‘We’re all going to die’ prophecies ever made…
    This ‘end of the human race in 10 years’ is just another crazy with an agenda
    
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    November 24, 2016 9:31am
    - Lance
      
      He’s kind of on a hiding to nothing.
      If he is wrong then he is derided as a looney false prophet
      OR
      The world does end and there is nobody left to acknowledge he was right
      
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      November 24, 2016 10:37am
  - Ole Bill Mole
    
    what do you mean anymore?
    
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    November 24, 2016 11:05am
- waikatogirl
  
  In the meantime the “fruit loop” doom merchant is presumably swanning around the world on the USA taxpayer enjoying his free tour of the world, all expenses paid. No wonder Trump is talking of cutting off these nutters funding. Let’s hope he doesn’t back down on that election promise.
  
  Few would take his predictions seriously that the human population is doomed within 10 years. What a scam artist.
  
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  November 24, 2016 11:34am
  - Ole Bill Mole
    
    by kayak, one hopes….
    
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    November 24, 2016 11:52am
Manolo

The mole and relatives in action:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/23/report-huma-sister-trying-to-undermine-legitimate-trump-victory/
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November 24, 2016 8:49am
oldpark

NZs ACT will be over the moon,and NZs Liebour/Green joined at the hip parties,will be raging. Seems Donald Trump ,has made the American Education Secretary,Betsy DeVos, a huge advocate for Charter Schools to be in his cabinet.
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November 24, 2016 8:55am
stephieboy

‘Hell Trump!’: Holocaust museum alarmed over ‘hateful speech’ by white nationalists ”

“The US Holocaust Memorial Museum has expressed alarm over “hateful speech” at a white nationalist meeting over the weekend, and a restaurant apologised for hosting the group after a woman tweeted a picture of herself making a Nazi salute

The National Policy Institute, a think tank that is part of the alt-right movement that includes neo-Nazis, white supremacists and anti-Semites, held a gathering at the federally owned Ronald Reagan Building on Saturday.

A video by The Atlantic taken inside the conference showed Richard Spencer, leader of the National Policy Institute, shouting, “Heil Trump, heil our people, heil victory!” as some of the people in attendance lifted their hands in a Nazi salute….”

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-22/hail-trump-holocaust-museum-alarmed-white-nationalist-speech/8047160
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November 24, 2016 9:38am
- Ed Snack
  
  Funny old world, we have Islamic terrorism killing people, yet we must not condemn Islam as only a tiny minority are violent. Then we have the NPI giving unsolicited support to Trump, and we must hate all Republicans because they’re all like that.
  
  How many disavowals does it take ? The NPI plus what ever exists of the KKK today would have, what, something like 5-10,000 members of whom maybe 2-500 are “active”. Like this represents anything but a mentally ill extreme fringe with miniscule numbers and no influence on anyone.
  
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  November 24, 2016 11:19am
  - Ed Snack
    
    And to add a meme that’s floating around, the NPI meeting attracted 200 people, the Brony convention (for adults who like to dress up as My Little Pony) attracted 7600.
    
    I’m not really sure who has the greatest disconnect from reality, but despite the hideous MLP colour schemes, I know who I’d rather have living next door, just.
    
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    November 24, 2016 11:55am
- Fletch
  
  Trump disavowed and condemned them.
  
  Donald Trump has repudiated the fringe “alt-right” group that celebrated his election win with Nazi salutes.
  
  In a far-ranging interview with the New York Times, the US president-elect was quoted as saying: “I condemn them. I disavow, and I condemn.”
  
  He said he did not want to “energise” the group, which includes neo-Nazis, white supremacists and anti-Semites.
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38069469
  
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  November 24, 2016 11:49am
- pentwig
  
  You fuckwit daffy.
  Feel ashamed.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:08pm
artemisia

Cost benefit analysis. Should benefits be related to costs? Seems to be an increasing trend for university researchers to want one sector of the community to bear costs while another sector gets the benefits.

The proposed rental warrant of fitness proposed by the University of Otago in Wellington (unsurprisingly) wants for example landlords to put visibility strips on doors and windows, and handrails on steps, to reduce accidents. The financial benefits accrue to ACC primarily.

In this week’s news, UK researchers want supermarkets to pay for dedicated lanes with seats and more staff so older people can have a social supermarket experience and apparently cause less pressure on health services. Interestingly in that same issue of the newsletter (link below) (the) Dick Smith says supermarkets that don’t seriously discount pricing by efficiencies, including staff reductions, will go out of business in the not too distant future.

Researchers from the University of Hertfordshire, in the UK, have urged shops to introduce more seating and dedicated ‘slow’ checkout lanes for their older customers, especially those living in isolated areas. These measures would allow them to experience the ‘social aspect’ of the supermarket. According to professor Wendy, industry and policymakers have a real opportunity to help older people develop a positive relationship with food.
“Failure to act could result in older people’s food security, and therefore their health and wellbeing, declining at a faster rate, placing greater pressure on the NHS and care providers.”

http://supermarketnews.co.nz/slow-lanes-for-older-people/
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November 24, 2016 9:57am
Stars And Stripes

I would love to know how much WINZ is spending on grants for mobility scooters.
There seems to have been an explosion in the numbers of these things in the last few years and a heap of the owners are massive smelly blobs who are obviously on welfare.
Go past Pak n Save or the TAB and there will be two or three of these parked up outside with some creature who has an ass so big you could park a mini in it’s shadow going about their fetid business before motoring home to some hovel of a unit to continue eating themselves to death.
Makes me proud to think my efforts help to keep this hopeless trash alive.
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November 24, 2016 10:16am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Lol, rant of the day ?
  
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  November 24, 2016 3:45pm
dave_c_

I’m becoming more and more sceptical about the ‘building inspection processes’ being performed after the big earthquake.
Not only was the CBD in Wellington re-opened super quick, we are now seeing further closures of buildings after subsequent inspections (eg. Asteron Building – where cracks in the staircases are being reported, which weren’t reported frst time around.)
It is bcoming increasingly more difficult to determine whether :
– Building owners are lying about the outcomes of inspections
– Building owners use less thorough inspectors deliberately
– Some building inspectors are not competent to inspect large buildings
– There are too few engineers to go round – creating room for substandard / adequate inspection times at each building
– Whether the building code is inconsistent across varying building styles and age of buldings, resulting in confusion among the inspection fraternity

Or all of the above come to head here.

Hardly instilling confidence of the general population who have to work in these locations.
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November 24, 2016 10:20am
- Ed Snack
  
  Serious shortage of Engineers qualified to inspect; and it seems obvious that the standards themselves need revision as the actual ground movement was less than assumed under the code yet buildings that should have survived easily were damaged.
  
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  November 24, 2016 11:22am
  - dave_c_
    
    Those who ‘fail to prepare, are preparing to fail’
    As in failing to acknowledge NZ sits on the ring of fire topography, and establish appropriate resources for times like this. !
    
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    November 24, 2016 11:38am
wiseowl

There is a report about people in Wellington buying water tanks following the earthquake.
It says the council has sold 10,000 tanks to date .
Can anyone tell me why a council is selling water tanks ???????
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November 24, 2016 10:36am
- sooty
  
  Because you can not go down to Bunnings or Mega and buy one.
  
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  November 24, 2016 12:42pm
- howitis
  
  To pay for the airport extension…maybe
  
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  November 24, 2016 12:44pm
- Colville
  
  Probably to encourage rain water storage to take load off council water supply.
  
  Roof collection water is usually full of bird shit and wind blown dust, very organic 🙂
  
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  November 24, 2016 1:08pm
Stars And Stripes

40pct of Christchurch state houses to be sold
http://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/40pct-of-christchurch-state-houses-to-be-sold-2016112410

Should make it 100% and wash their hands of this scourge once and for all.
The icing on the cake would be if all the tenants were shipped out to the tropical paradises of Nauru or Manus Island for some R&R as well.
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November 24, 2016 10:40am
- cmm
  
  And not only are there state houses. There are also council houses.
  
  Not only does a huge % of your tax go to paying bludgers but a huge % of your rates too!
  
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  November 24, 2016 11:01am
wiseowl

Stars .
I thought this had been put on hold because the special people said they weren’t consulted.
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November 24, 2016 10:44am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Overcame the problem with koha I suspect.
  Wonder if taniwha’s are a problem on Nauru and Manus?.
  
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  November 24, 2016 10:51am
Happychappy

I wonder how long it will take Labour and the Greens to start lobbying the Government to protest or condemn the fact that Alain Marfat the Rainbow Warrior Bomber has been selected to be a Finalist in the Prestigious Wildlife Photography Competition.These same people did the same in earlier times when he had one on a wildlife calendar.
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November 24, 2016 10:50am
Manolo

Bush’s mouthpiece on the hot seat:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/23/watch-tucker-carlson-grill-karl-rove-on-why-he-was-wrong-about-the-election/
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November 24, 2016 12:18pm
Manolo

Reality is to be avoided:
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/307388-lefts-new-argument-hillary-didnt-lose

Liberals searching for answers to Donald Trump’s surprise victory in the presidential election have latched on to a new explanation: Hillary Clinton didn’t really lose.
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November 24, 2016 12:41pm
- Colville
  
  Manolo.
  The Labour Party here are still thinking they won the last couple of elections, there are just a million voters out there that want Labour in power but just skipped the insignificant step of actually voting for them.
  But Labour KNOWS they are going to turn out and vote in ’17 🙂
  
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  November 24, 2016 1:13pm
- Paulus
  
  Is it not so that the Hillary Democrat Party are now trying to open up the election saying that Hillary won, as she had more votes than the Don, albeit that there are many different ways that individual votes are cast and by whom in various States.
  Many people who were not legally entitled to vote as immigrants did so as different rules apply. Some were bussed across lines so that they voted a number of time – for the Don of course ?
  Somebody paid for the busses along with the KFC I expect.
  
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  November 24, 2016 1:47pm
Manolo

I expect stephieboy to do the same at his thriving kebab business in Mt Roskill:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/23/new-mexico-business-if-you-support-trump-get-out/

A business owner in Albuquerque has announced that, due to his opposition to “fascism,” he will henceforth refuse to do business with Republicans and President-elect Donald Trump supporters.
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November 24, 2016 1:23pm
- dime
  
  wonder if he will be targeted by the media and shit down?
  
  like cake shops who dont cater to fag weddings
  
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  November 24, 2016 1:47pm
dime

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/86729859/rental-strain-in-nelson-forces-mother-with-six-children-in-care-to-live-in-tent

“Karla Tunney said it felt like she was “failing as a mother” because in one week’s time she and her dependents will be homeless”

lol um you ARE failing as a mother. jesus.
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November 24, 2016 1:46pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Never fear the good old taxpayer will cough up for a motel and disaster will be averted.
  Shame really as living in a tent might have curtailed her libido a bit.
  
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  November 24, 2016 2:46pm
starboard

Greetings from the GC again trendsetters..wowo what a place 8am and its 30 deg with a cooling breeze. Good timing SB..schoolies is on muwhahahaha !
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November 24, 2016 1:59pm
- dime
  
  if a guy called toastie hits you up on grindr, dont go back to his apartment 😀
  
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  November 24, 2016 2:11pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  ‘School’ies… you are old enough to be their grandfather you sick fuck.
  Give yourself a good slap upside the head and then piss off down to the bingo hall and shag some slappers of an age that is appropriate.
  
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  November 24, 2016 4:54pm
starboard

Alls good Dime..Ive blocked him but given him mm’s number.
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November 24, 2016 2:14pm
- dime
  
  be careful MM
  
  i know youll be overtaken by lust.. but stay safe
  
  enjoy the GC starboard!
  
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  November 24, 2016 2:33pm
Captain Mainwaring

What is it about West Auckland. Why is it always in the news for all the wrong reasons?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86835308/man-makes-suspicious-approach-towards-young-girl-in-west-auckland
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November 24, 2016 3:10pm
waikatogirl

Not just West Auckland:

Dead baby found at Mangere Bridge.
Fears for the “mother”
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November 24, 2016 3:23pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Nothing to worry about as I’m sure the mother is already making the next one with her latest boyfriend as we speak.
  Only bummer for her is she will miss out on the welfare cheque for the dead one.
  
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  November 24, 2016 4:05pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Despite the grim associations of the name Mangere Bridge is now an expensive and sought after suburb (most houses in 900k-1.5 million range), this is unlikely to be a feral.
    
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    November 24, 2016 5:03pm
fernglas

stuff says prisoner gets maximum of 7 years for grabbing buttock of female guard under 3 strikes. judge declines to order him to serve the full term; says 12 months would otherwise have been right.

discuss
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November 24, 2016 3:29pm
- dime
  
  thats fucking brutal!!!!
  
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  November 24, 2016 4:01pm
- kowtow
  
  Judge sets himself above referendum on crime and parliament.
  
  He should be sacked.
  
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  November 24, 2016 4:53pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Impossible to sack a judge .
    
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    November 24, 2016 5:18pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      But to Judge a sack? Well, that happens each time you post aye Dad
      
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      November 24, 2016 6:38pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Go away James Sleep you immature no nothing jerk. No doubt the Clint H club is struggling with membership due to Aids.
        
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        November 24, 2016 9:48pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        James? CC?
        
        Your raving again Dad, stress levels getting to you?
        
        We are here help old chap
        
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        November 24, 2016 9:54pm
      - dad4justice
        
        So sad AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
        
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        November 24, 2016 10:02pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        That’s good sharing Dad! Well done!
        
        Why so serious… whoops… sad?
        
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        November 24, 2016 10:11pm
Viking2

Yep, looks like Garrets 3 strikes has been overruled again by a soft cock. He got to three strikes because he is a bad bastard.

I really don’t care what he did this time. He had his 2 strike warning.
Toogood should have slapped him with it. Just as a lesson to the other arsewipes out there.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86818649/seven-years-jail-for-prison-bum-grab
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November 24, 2016 3:36pm
- dime
  
  didnt he get 7 years? whichis the max? in line with the law?
  
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  November 24, 2016 4:02pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Perhaps the full 7 year sentence would have reinforced he need to change as Campbell obviously hasn’t learn’t to keep his hands to himself.
    
    He will clearly still be a threat when he is released.
    It is inevitable he will repeat the cycle and end back in prison for similar charges.
    
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    November 24, 2016 4:09pm
  - Viking2
    
    no he didn’t.
    
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    November 24, 2016 7:33pm
    - fernglas
      
      He got 7 years imprisonment. What he did not get was an order that he serve the sentence in full, the Judge finding that it would be a “grossly disproportionate” outcome.
      
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      November 24, 2016 8:00pm
- kowtow
  
  Who thought it was a good idea to have female wardens in men’s prisons?
  
  Fuck there’s some dumb shit PC crap going on out there.
  
  Meanwhile , the sentencing for that POS for his second robbery is a larf .
  
  Judges aren’t doing their duty to protect the public, more PC shite.
  
  I see the POS ‘s lawyer thinks the third strike legislation passing on his thug was a bad idea , to quote a former PM ……..diddums.
  
  If the offence is serious enough then the c#nt should get full term first time. We’ve only encouraged crime and created no end of victims by having gone soft on crime.
  
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  November 24, 2016 4:11pm
  - Reid
    
    Fuck there’s some dumb shit PC crap going on out there.
    
    When are people going to understand these “dumb” decisions almost always have specific motives and reasons for doing them that go way beyond and completely opposite to the human wights meme under which they are always sold to idiots.
    
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    November 24, 2016 5:53pm
- RF
  
  Toogood should have followed his father’s advice and taken the Bag. Instead he got the booby prize.
  
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  November 24, 2016 10:09pm
Reid

Very good summary of the Pizzagate findings to date. Anyone who thinks nothing is there, is probably called stephie something.

https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@titusfrost/pizzagate-dnc-pedophile-ring-exposed-by-podesta-s-emails-obama-clintons-andrew-kline
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November 24, 2016 5:52pm
Fletch

Jesse Jackson publicly praised Donald Trump in 1999 for a lifetime of helping the African American community – Trump talks about his hiring of black and minority groups for construction and says the number is going up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K1-nzxzzug

But… but… he’s supposed to be racist isn’t he???
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November 24, 2016 6:08pm
- Fletch
  
  “At one point, Donald Trump appeared at a PUSH meeting where Jackson praised him for his commitment to “diversity” in the workplace.
  “I do want to thank you, Donald Trump, for being with us tonight,” Jackson said at the time. “We need your building skills, your gusto for people on Wall Street to represent diversity.”
  The reverend went on to insist Trump’s success is “beyond argument” and warned people against missing it all saying, “one can miss his seriousness and his commitment.”
  “When we opened this Wall Street project … he gave us space at 40 Wall Street, which was to make a statement about our having a presence there,” Jackson said.
  “Beyond that, in terms of being inclusive, he’s done that too,”
  
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  November 24, 2016 6:17pm
Shunda barunda

I’ve been following a disturbing aftershock cluster that has been occurring in the “wedge” between the Hope fault and the Alpine fault near mt Alexander on the West Coast. The activity has been increasing while the activity in Kaikoura has disturbingly almost stopped over night.
Now this report just came out from news hub.

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West Coast Civil Defence has issued an urgent warning to residents about the possibility of a significant aftershock in the region.

People are being urged to stock up on enough food, water, cash and medicine to last a week, and to ensure they have an emergency plan in place.

Public Information Manager Andy Thompson said the aftershock activity had been “suspiciously quiet”.

“The GeoNet seismograph drums have been very quiet for the last day or so and the normally higher aftershock sequence of large quakes has not been occurring in the Kaikoura area,” a statement from West Coast Civil Defence said.

Another worry is that an area in Arthur’s Pass slightly west of the divide has experienced a number of small tremors in the last few days, Civil Defence regional manager Chris Raine said.

He said it’s an area they have been monitoring closely, with Mr Thompson describing it as “highly sensitive”.”

http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/west-coast-warned-to-prepare-for-possible-massive-aftershock-2016112418
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November 24, 2016 7:08pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Its been retracted.There will be after shocks. But no one can predict when, where or how big. Just that they should decrease in size and intensity over time.. (but could still be very damaging as Christ church showed). Really starting to worry about the seismic gap on teh west coast and the bit under Wellington. Living in Wellington is a bit like committing suicide by lying on a railway line. Eventually a train will come. You just dont know when, or how fast it is. But it will come.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:38pm
Ross12

Only in Obama’s USA. Sheriff departments are ordered to hire illegal immigrants as deputies. If they don’t they are fined.
So you employ people who are breaking the law to go out an enforce the law !!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/21/obama-admin-fines-police-department-for-not-hiring-non-citizens/
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November 24, 2016 7:15pm
- mikenmild
  
  You do understand that there is a difference between a non-citizen and an illegal immigrant, right?
  
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  November 24, 2016 7:21pm
  - Ross12
    
    Fair point MM. My mistake , need to read more carefully next time.
    
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    November 24, 2016 7:35pm
  - Reid
    
    You do understand there is a difference between a good POTUS and Obama, right?
    
    Edit: You’re a cheese-eating surrender monkey Ross. Got any freedom fries? I thought not.
    
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    November 24, 2016 7:37pm
Fletch

For only US$250, you could have this Christmas tree ornament. Finished in 24 karat gold.

http://amzn.to/2fr5vDA
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November 24, 2016 7:37pm
Viking2

Why most of our Parliamentarians are a waste of space.

Uber came to Parliament today hoping to win over MPs deciding what the future of the taxi industry will look like.

But the company’s Australasian executives ran into some resistance from MPs who appeared to be struggling with the very concept of a disruptive ride-sharing business.

Appearing before Parliament’s Transport Committee, Uber New Zealand general manager Richard Menzies tried to argue that the company should not have to adopt outdated taxi requirements like logbooks, signage and stringent driver and vehicle checks.

But first he was forced to explain to the committee, over and over again, that Uber was not a “rank and hail” taxi company.

National MP Alastair Scott was the first to bite.

“We’re concerned that you could get some gypsy operators who are not licensed by anyone appearing on a taxi rank.”

Labour MP Sue Moroney interjected, offering a more politically-correct term: “Cowboys”.

more stupid overpaid people here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11754480
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November 24, 2016 7:38pm
Fletch

Apprently, this is the must-have toy for girls this Christmas in America, and stores are out of product…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Mm_LM41e8
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November 24, 2016 7:46pm
Reid

So ~~the US~~ Obama has just refused to join the UN in a vote to condemn Nazism, a motion which passed by 131 to 3.

The United States joined Ukraine in voting against a United Nations resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism…

…The resolution…was approved by the UN’s human rights committee on November 17 by 131 to 3.

Joining the United States in voting “no” were Palau and Ukraine

So why would Obongo and the Ukrainian govt have a problem condemning Nazism?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/US-lifts-ban-on-funding-neo-Nazi-Ukrainian-militia-441884
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November 24, 2016 7:58pm
- fernglas
  
  Freedom of speech protected under the US constitution? Just a guess. Note that the motion is not condemning Nazism, but its glorification.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:04pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Yes, see below.
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:14pm
- mikenmild
  
  US explanation (overlooked by Reid, of course):
  
  As in years past, the United States condemns the glorification of Nazism and all modern forms of racism, xenophobia, discrimination, and related intolerance. The United States is an active partner in promoting remembrance of the Holocaust and other genocides worldwide, and continues to lead efforts to bring perpetrators of these and other atrocity crimes to justice. More broadly, we condemn without reservation all forms of religious and ethnic intolerance or hatred at home and around the world. However, due to this resolution’s overly narrow scope and politicized nature, and because it calls for unacceptable limits on the fundamental freedom of expression, the United States cannot support it. Given the challenges of the modern world, we regret that this resolution continues to be so narrow in scope. We also continue to be concerned that Russia is using this resolution to carry out political attacks against its neighbors.
  
  The United States also strongly disagrees with the resolution’s willingness to curb freedom of expression. While we share concerns over the rise in hate speech around the globe, this resolution’s recommendations to limit freedom of expression, freedom of association, and the right to peaceful assembly contravene the principles enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and must be opposed. Similarly, we encourage states to refrain from invoking Article 4 of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination and Article 20 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights to limit freedom of expression or as an excuse for failing to take effective measures to combat intolerance in its many forms.
  
  The United States will vote No on this resolution and calls on other states to do the same.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:13pm
  - Reid
    
    131/134 countries didn’t buy that explanation (overlooked by mm, of course).
    
    I thought you really really really hated Nazis mm. I thought your lefty sense of sanctimonious self-righteousness was inflamed by the whole subject, at least your response to EAD is indicative of that. Whereas now, you’re defending them, vigorously. Isn’t that interesting. Are you like J. Edgar Hoover mm?
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:19pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Hating Nazis does not justify suppression of free speech.
      Also, I wasn’t aware that UN Human Rights resolutions held much currency on Kiwiblog, slanted as most of them are against Israel.
      
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      November 24, 2016 8:59pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Reid you are obviously a deep thinker so here is question for you.
  If Russia is so concerned about Nazis and neo Nazis etc how come they seem to encourage them or at least turn a blind eye to their activities at gay parades in Russia where they are usually at the forefront of dishing out violence and threats.
  Surely dealing with the homegrown threat would be a priority?.
  
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  November 24, 2016 8:27pm
  - Reid
    
    The questions of what Russia as a country is, and whether or not it’s being fucked over by the West, are separate S and S.
    
    Which one do you want to discuss?
    
    And so too are you, BTW.
    
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    November 24, 2016 8:29pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      I don’t really have any opinions either way on the topic Reid, more just throwing it out there for discussion.
      
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      November 24, 2016 8:36pm
- Fletch
  
  U probably find this will later fall back on Trump and he will be blamed for it, and they will make all the Hitler connections again.
  
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  November 24, 2016 9:08pm
rightoverlabour

Just for Griff and WofO

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/11/not-just-swamp-trump-sets-draining-troughs-well/#more-282924

Enjoy…
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November 24, 2016 8:40pm
- nasska
  
  Don’t jump Griff! 🙂
  
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  November 24, 2016 9:17pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Gripp can’t jump as he is stoned as a Christchurch night shift cop.
    
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    November 24, 2016 9:53pm
- William of Ockham
  
  I’m enjoying the experiment: seeing how much CO2 needs to be added to make Earth uninhabitable for your descendants.
  
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  November 25, 2016 1:46am
Jack5

The Parliamentary Press Gallery is evacuated because of quake damage to the building.

Quake damage? Perhaps it’s because of the outbalancing weight on the Left side of the journos’ office.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11754573
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November 24, 2016 8:42pm
Manolo

If the hack Soper were nearby, the risk of fire would be high too. The Labour fan is prone to self-combustion.
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November 24, 2016 9:59pm
Manolo

Griff is mortified and concerned:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/23/fake-news-update-media-falsely-spins-trumps-climate-comments-read-full-nyt-transcript/
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November 24, 2016 10:13pm
- William of Ockham
  
  Yeah, I see the Trump still doesn’t know “climategate” was a beat-up by liars and deniers funded by oil billionaires.
  
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  November 25, 2016 1:42am
Inandout

I don’t know if this has been posted before, but Pat Condell really nails it this time on European Muslim invaders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9e_vcSut0A
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November 24, 2016 11:08pm
BeeSting

Reid the Ukraine is about
Food Security
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November 25, 2016 12:10am
Manolo

What will the outcome be?
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/307489-trump-says-hes-working-hard-on-thanksgiving-to-keep-carrier-from-going-to
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November 25, 2016 6:29am
Manolo

Our own stephieboy is starting to accept the truth and say President Trump:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c2e14c029ca44d648a3d12a986b3b88a/thanksgiving-pause-trump-calls-national-healing
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