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Paulus Gnome

Bit of a lesson here for all those who love to drop their pants and do an ‘impromptu haka’ to delight the assembled masses. Yeah, nah.

Mass ‘schoolies’ brawl erupts after Aussie mocks Kiwis’ haka

‘A large brawl erupted among “Schoolies” in Surfers Paradise last night when an Australian mockingly danced around a group of New Zealanders performing the haka.

The Gold Coast Bulletin filmed the mayhem that unfolded when the man and one of the New Zealanders came to blows at the beach end of Cavill Mall.’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11752377

Not everyone ‘loves’ a fing haka and it is time the specials realised that outside their own fart gas, they are not soooooooooooo special.

Oh, silly me; when the specials are offended, resort to default position, offer violence.

Further reading in the same vein: ‘Gateway Motorway ‘road rage’ Kiwi Tamate Heke charged with manslaughter’

‘Tamate Henry Heke allegedly caused the death of Shane Merrigan, 50, in a road rage scuffle on Brisbane’s busy Gateway Motorway on December 1 last year, news.com.au reported.’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11752371

Another of Kelvin’s million returning to a house near you at the end of his sentence. Can’t wait.
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November 22, 2016 8:04am
- RF
  
  Might I suggest that a mall where you have shoppers going about their lawful business, is not the place for half naked idiots to perform a war dance.
  
  I trust the Aussie coppers did their duty……
  
  Surfers is a known trouble spot frequented by unemployed special people.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:24am
- fernglas
  
  why do you assume that Kiwis doing a haka are automatically Maori? I have seen any number of cringeworthy attempts at performing our national dance in public, and most of them have pretty ethnically diverse participants.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:25am
  - RF
    
    I called them half naked idiots… however suggest you view the video.
    
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    November 22, 2016 8:38am
    - RF
      
      Shock horror.
      
      Aussie media calling it Maori youths involved in mall brawl.
      
      Who would have guessed.
      
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      November 22, 2016 9:43am
      - starboard
        
        Thugs, violent thugs..an embarrassment to New Zealand, however the powers that be want us all to embrace murri. Why would you? Why would you lower yourself? Embrace a stoneage violent decaying group of miscreants..c’mon.
        
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        November 22, 2016 10:33am
      - GoVege
        
        Starboard: I don’t like the sexism in Maori culture, but it ain’t all bad.
        Try not to be so unpleasant.
        
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        November 22, 2016 5:12pm
      - sam green
        
        I would imagine that your behaviour in Bangkok is an embarrassment to New Zealand.
        
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        November 22, 2016 7:07pm
    - Morrissey
      
      If you don’t like this country and our culture, why don’t you go and live somewhere where they make people cover up and ban dancing? Saudi Arabia sounds just right for you.
      
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      November 22, 2016 9:48am
      - RF
        
        Our culture ? Basket weaving and eating your enemy !!!!! No thanks…
        
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        November 22, 2016 11:49am
      - mikenmild
        
        Correct. Our culture is more likely to embrace binge drinking and reality TV.
        
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        November 22, 2016 12:17pm
      - GoVege
        
        RF: Probably all cultures, including our European ancestors once practiced cannibalism.
        Thankfully not anymore.
        No doubt our fondness for bacon and other products of our close relation, the pig, is a throwback to our forebears’ liking for long pork.
        
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        November 22, 2016 5:16pm
kowtow

“Sgt Watt said racist behaviour was unacceptable.

He appealed for anyone who witnessed the incidents to come forward with information.

“Queenstown is a tourist destination and we host a number of different nationalities.

“Racist behaviour will not be tolerated.” ‘

But Sergeant , what is racist behaviour and under what authority will police not tolerate it?

Is it Iwi Kiwi signs, is it checking Chinese names on real estate contracts , is it anti US ship visit protests, is it Brash’s Orewa speech.

Plod should stick to his knitting and investigate crime not morality.

https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/coffee-assault-alleged
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November 22, 2016 8:11am
- GoVege
  
  I don’t like the haka for its violent connotations, but it is a traditional Maori dance and if Maori people want to perform it they should not be mocked.
  
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  November 22, 2016 5:10pm
Manolo

Upbeat market sentiment:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-21/deutsche-bank-trump-could-push-the-u-s-economy-and-stock-markets-to-new-records

It’s looking more likely that President-elect Donald Trump will preside over a continuing U.S. expansion that could take its place as the longest among American business cycles, according to Deutsche Bank.
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November 22, 2016 8:12am
- Milhous
  
  do you think Deutsche bank is pretty much the only bank that will loan Trump money and that he owes them millions has anything to do with their optimistic outlook?
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:43am
  - dime
    
    millions?? you mean to say a multi billion dollar company has leveraged itself?
    
    shocking.
    
    trump co is almost as bad as those worthless bums apple who owe 72 billion!! what a binch of losers!! arent you glad you never bought stock in apple!!! what a terrible company run by terrible businessmen. they must be at the absolute mercy of the banks. they probably couldnt stump up with 6 grand if you asked em!
    
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    November 22, 2016 8:55am
    - Milhous
      
      Im not questioning his debt level Dime, I’m simply saying the rosy outlook is because of his “special ” relationship with them….not so shocking really.
      
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      November 22, 2016 9:03am
    - Milhous
      
      Maybe this clarifies the relationship between Trump and Deutsche bank for you.
      http://www.wsj.com/articles/when-donald-trump-needs-a-loan-he-chooses-deutsche-bank-1458379806
      
      Once more, I’m not criticising his debt, I’m simply saying when Trumpistas start heralding reports re their demagogue the Donald, it pays to look at the source.
      
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      November 22, 2016 9:05am
- dime
  
  being an importer, Dime is a touch worried about the US dollar gaining strength. 70 cents is nice. 60 cents blows.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:55am
  - Colville
    
    as a chap that owns 30,000 pine trees ripe for picking I want us to go to about $0.45 against the US$ for a year or two 🙂
    
    I am sure there are a few cockies around that wouldn’t mind that either!
    
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    November 22, 2016 9:20am
    - dime
      
      yeah.. as long as you can bank that cash and sit on it.. cause most things you buy will go up.
      
      i think fair value for importers & exporters is around 67 cents.
      
      gets hard any lower than that for me.. 75 not much fun for farmers etc.
      
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      November 22, 2016 10:23am
Kiwiladdy

Lefties all round the interwebs think Borrows should be charged.

If only they hold their idiot protestor mates to the same standard. Those responsible for the TPPA circus owe the taxpayer a great deal of compensation for the countless police hours they have wasted.

The hypocrisy of it all is that they can’t hold actual criminals to any form of justice. For that would be “unfair”

Lefty logic strikes again. /rant

Have a nice day all.
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November 22, 2016 8:12am
- starboard
  
  I still want to know why the homosexual predator D Hughes, Labour Party member wasn’t charged after chasing a naked teenaged male down the street some years back. Plod works in mysterious ways.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:28am
- kowtow
  
  I suspect a bigger problem at play here. I ‘d expect the left to make a big deal of the incident. However I suspect the Crown has laid charges so as to be seen to be impartial rather than do the right thing and acting as impartial , a big difference .
  
  I think the protesters should be charged with obstruction or some such offence as they were clearly in the wrong. It is high time the Crown acted against the criminals and not the victims in these protests.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:38am
  - fernglas
    
    At the end of the day, he did drive into people in front of his car whether they should have been there or not. If he’s saying that doing so was the use of reasonable force in anticipation of threatened harm, i.e. self-defence, then that is something that is always determined at a contested hearing. It could be argued that he was lucky not to be charged with reckless driving causing injury (reckless in this context meaning recognising risk but going ahead anyway.) And sadly, folks, it is still not a legal defence to say the victim deserved it.
    
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    November 22, 2016 10:08am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Who is being reckless if a drama seeking protester sticks their foot under your moving tyre?
      
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      November 22, 2016 10:52am
Odakyu-sen

Speaking of “Kiwi” violence in Australia.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11752541

Something strange about this story. Are the police unable to defend themselves in their own homes? (I assume that there was just one home invader.)
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November 22, 2016 8:17am
- RF
  
  FFS. The offender is described as a 19 year old Kiwi boy. How about Kiwi thug….. who will soon be staying with Kelvin after he is sent home. Knowing Vicpol cops his card will be marked.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:33am
- kowtow
  
  Tell ya what’s strange about that story…… the journo calling a 19 year old extremely dangerous and armed home invader a ‘boy’.
  
  If found guilty that POS should hang.
  
  But oh no , we’ve been hugging these dangerous thugs since the ’60s , now we reap the consequences.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:56am
DifferentPerspective

Obama is making Trump look great already

Dear oh dear! What a sad, sore little loser Obama is turning out to be! “Yes we can!” is turning out to be “No you couldn’t”.

And he’s going to spend the rest of his ‘lame duck Presidency’ being lamer and lamer – apparently when the Democrats lose the system is rigged against them.

He’s on tricky ground here and about to prove once again he’s the worst Pres the US has had for a long, long time – the last thing he needs is a closer look at the votes cast and to see that the 3 million illegal votes cast were all for his mate Hillary the pizza Spirit Cooker.

He may be popular but as the leader of his party – what a shambles he’s left them in. His legacy may be as great as Helen Clark’s with his party also consigned to the political wilderness for a generation (or more)!
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November 22, 2016 8:22am
PhilBest

Words of wisdom for Wellingtonians, from someone with valuable first-hand experience: the ChCh Press Editor:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/86628282/editorial-better-safe-than-dead-or-maimed

“…The luxury of time has now gone (if it was ever there in the first place) and urgent decisions need to be made, given the likelihood of more earthquakes and the inherently unpredictable force and effect of them…”
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November 22, 2016 8:25am
- nasska
  
  Be careful of what you endorse PhilBest. We are over run by “slip,slap,slop”, helmet wearing, anti-drink, safety nannies already.
  
  Give the harridans any encouragement & everyone will be compelled to spend their lives sheltering under doorways clutching their survival kits!
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:33am
  - sam green
    
    Got any basal cell carcinomas yet – or squamous cell carcinomas? melanoma?
    
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    November 22, 2016 1:42pm
  - GoVege
    
    I take it you don’t mind your taxes being increased to pay for all the people who refuse to wear a helmet/ sunscreen etc nasska?
    Personally I do object to paying.
    Including for all those red-meat eaters giving us the gong for world’s #1 for bowel cancer.
    
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    November 22, 2016 5:24pm
- cmm
  
  People talking about safety talk shit: life is sacred etc.
  
  Nope life is not sacred and nobody acts that way.
  
  Here’s a thought experiment:
  
  Ask someone this: “Would you do anything to endanger your kids?” Chances are they’d say “Never” or something like that.
  
  Yet those same people will routinely drive a car at 100kph when it would be vastly safer to drive at 60kph.
  
  The truth is that we see safety as a cost that we weigh up in the continual cost/benefit risk evaluations we do all the time: Is it Ok to endanger my kids a tiny bit more to get to the mall two minutes quicker?
  
  It is only after an accident that the parent will think they should have driven a bit slower etc.
  
  Pretty much exactly the same style of reasoning goes on with society at large. We weigh up the perceived risks of a building failure etc and compare that to their utility (some of that being historic value of old death-traps).
  
  It is only after destructive earthquakes that we look back and say we should have chosen differently.
  
  Unfortunately that reasoning is not helpful for many reasons:
  1) We cannot live our lives in constant fear or we get nothing done and end up wasting more of our life than we risk.
  
  If you drive everywhere at 50kph to be extra safe you’ll waste a huge part of your life in the car – more than the amount of your life you’re likely to lose by getting killed.
  
  The same with EQs. Spend your life in a bunker to avoid the 0.001% chance of getting killed and you just waste your whole life.
  
  The same applies to a whole lot of OSH laws too….
  
  2) Spending on safety is emotionally driven. It is a waste of money to spend billions of dollars to prevent a few people getting killed by earthquakes. It would be better to put that money into other areas that have better payback (eg. road safety, suicide prevention).
  
  The same is true of OSH. The new scaffolding laws cost tens – maybe hundreds – of millions per year and perhaps save two or three lives per year. That money would have better payback in road safety, suicide prevention etc.
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:21am
  - calendar girl
    
    Thought-provoking comment, cmm, and hard to argue with. Thanks.
    
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    November 22, 2016 9:35am
  - stephieboy
    
    I suppose some good old homespun good sense but spare a thought for you kids ,the Missus and yourself baking like a beetroot in the summer midday sun .
    
    A rim hat and a bit of slip slop with SP50 wont go a miss ,
    
    http://www.health.govt.nz/your-health/conditions-and-treatments/diseases-and-illnesses/melanoma
    
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    November 22, 2016 1:54pm
    - cmm
      
      I don’t need the nanny state to tell me to wear a hat.
      
      People have been wearing hats since before governments were even invented.
      
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      November 22, 2016 7:44pm
Simon

France’s prison population is estimated to be 70 per cent Muslim

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11352268/What-is-going-wrong-in-Frances-prisons.html

Muslims are 8 % of France.
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November 22, 2016 8:49am
- Morrissey
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Similarly, Germany’s prison population in the 1930s was heavily skewed toward certain sectors of the population. Your point is?
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:04am
  - mandk
    
    Simon’s point is clear.
    What is yours?
    
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    November 22, 2016 9:22am
    - Morrissey
      
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      My point is that he, and quite possibly you, would have also approved the disproportionate imprisoning of Jews, Roma and Sinti people in late 1930s Germany.
      
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      November 22, 2016 9:31am
      - rangitoto
        
        You are being deliberately disingenuous Morrisey. Modern Germany has no law requiring Moslems to be imprisoned.
        
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        November 22, 2016 10:03am
    - sam green
      
      is it?
      
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      November 22, 2016 2:22pm
- cmm
  
  That makes a Muslim over 25x more likely to be a prisoner than a non-Muslim.
  
  With numbers like that you’ve got to be stupid to not do a bit of profiling as you walk the streets.
  
  As Jesse Jackson said of his fellow blacks in 1996
  
  “There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:27am
  - GoVege
    
    An honest man that Jesse.
    Remarkable that he turned out so well himself, when his dad was a chauvinist who had his own family next door and Jesse was the result of his dalliance with a neighbor, apparently.
    
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    November 22, 2016 5:28pm
- RF
  
  Sounds familiar. That could also apply to NZ
  
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  November 22, 2016 11:56am
Happychappy

You would think being the Leader of the opposition Andrew Little would know that the Media ask questions of John Key and he will respond with a answer that will help give him advice on what the voter thinks.So if the Government whats to give tax cuts that is their right to give them if they can afford to do so,but without knowing whether they will or who will get them Andrew Little has called on the government to look after rebuilding and the people involved the earthquake before giving tax cuts. Labour seem to forget about their bribe of interest free loans that they used to win a election a few years ago. The media are pushing the subject not John Key and he will tell you when he is ready.
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November 22, 2016 8:51am
- cmm
  
  Still holding your breath for an unbiased MSM?
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:28am
Morrissey

When Kerre McIvor was Kerre Woodham she said this about Tony Veitch:
“All he did was throw a glass of water. It’s not like he broke every bone in her body.”
NewstalkZB, Thursday 16 April 2009

Giggling sports chatterer Tony Veitch has pleaded guilty to “injuring with reckless disregard” after grievously assaulting his fiancee Kristin Dunne-Powell, breaking her back in four places. According to Veitch’s friends and colleagues at NewstalkZB, New Zealand’s equivalent of Fox News, the fact that six other charges against him were dismissed shows that “that woman” and her friends had exaggerated and distorted everything. Sure, he’s admitted to and been convicted of the most serious charge, “injuring with reckless disregard”, but now it’s time to lay off the poor guy. In fact, the mood at NewstalkZB is close to carnival….

Speaking to Drivetime host Larry “Lackwit” Williams, sports jock Willy Lose, AKA Wiwwy Wose, is just ecstatic: “Awwww, it’s a day of CEWEBWATION for me, Wawwy!”

Larry Williams himself is, of course, loud and aggressive in his praise of Veitch, and relentless in his condemnation of all those non-NewstalkZB nattering nabobs of negativity that spoke out against Veitch for kicking a woman so badly he crippled her. Stirrers, they are, the lot of them!

But, to be honest, no one would have been surprised to hear this crap spilling from the lips of Lose and Williams. They’re truculent and insensitive, but they’re merely the opening act for what is to come. It’s after the 8 o’clock news that things get really vicious. That’s when Kerre Woodham’s night-time talk begins. It’s soon clear that this is not going to be a forum for any kind of feminine solidarity….

KERRE WOODHAM: I don’t think I would show much dignity if I thought people had been telling lies about me for MONTHS. I would want to defend myself against LIES.
FEMALE CALLER: This is two people who have bounced off each other. It was a toxic relationship. And it’s nobody else’s business. I just think people should leave it alone.
KERRE WOODHAM: I hear what you’re saying and I don’t know whyyyyy it was a feeding frenzy.

…..

KERRE WOODHAM: You would hope though, that with sufficient self-control, unless he was fearing for himself and his own physical safety, you wouldn’t kick somebody in the back and break two vertebrae. …It sounded like the most toxic, awful relationship for both of them. It was bizarre.

…..

KERRE WOODHAM: Mmmmm. Yeah, I just think there should be one rule for all. All he did was throw a glass of water. It’s not like he broke every bone in her body.
FEMALE CALLER: I think he has a drug problem.
KERRE WOODHAM: No, he had ADHD. [snickering indulgently] He doesn’t have a drug problem. There were a number of charges laid, but six of them were dropped, except the one where he kicked her. That’s because they don’t feel the charges will stick.

……

KERRE WOODHAM: Remember the guy in the Commonwealth Games who patted some woman on he bottom, I think she was climbing over a fence. You know. He was charged with ASSAULT!
FEMALE CALLER: Yes, yes, but—
KERRE WOODHAM: You know, I’d like to know exactly what that charge was! I know one of them was throwing a glass of water– you know, it wasn’t the glass, it was the water.
FEMALE CALLER: Another thing that really bothered me was that woman earlier saying that she must have driven him to it.
KERRE WOODHAM: Yeah.
FEMALE CALLER: I’m sorry, but I have a real problem with that.
KERRE WOODHAM: Mmmm.
FEMALE CALLER: No one deserves to get hit, and no one should hit anybody else.
KERRE WOODHAM: No, I can’t IMAGINE what would justify that unless it was a physical assault where you feared for your own life.

……

ELDERLY WOMAN CALLER: Tony has been vilified by the media. Most of the crims in this country have name suppression and get way with blue murder. There’s twoooo people in this situation who actually know what happened, and they are Tony and his ex…girlfriend. So in my book, LEAVE HIM ALONE.
KERRE WOODHAM: Mmmm, mmmm.
ELDERLY WOMAN CALLER: I admire Tony for his admitting his offence against his ex-partner. And I see she still hasn’t got a job. Well, I’m sorry, but a lot of us have problems, but yes, I support him, and I am RIGHT BEHIND HIM. That’s all I’ve got to say.
KERRE WOODHAM: [icily] Righto. Thank you. Hello, Cyril.

CYRIL: Well I’m not behind him at all. For goodness sakes, seven and a half months community service is all he got. He could have quite easily kicked that woman in the head and done brain damage to her,
KERRE WOODHAM: WE-E-E-L-L-L—
CYRIL: Or put her in a wheelchair for life.
KERRE WOODHAM: [coldly] Well, in which case it would have been a different sentence.
CYRIL: I beg your Pardon?
KERRE WOODHAM: He would have got a different sentence.
CYRIL: Sorry, I can’t quite hear you.
KERRE WOODHAM: Well why did you ring UP, you old—-

She cuts him off.

With a few honorable exceptions, NewstalkZB hosts continued this jihad against Kristin Dunne-Powell round the clock for several weeks.
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November 22, 2016 8:58am
- Happychappy
  
  Is it any different to the crusade on John Key by the the bloggers and the comment maker at the Standard
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:15am
  - Morrissey
    
    Completely different, as anyone with an IQ above room temperature can understand.
    
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    November 22, 2016 9:28am
    - holysheet
      
      ask go veg, According to him/her, she/he has got an stratospheric IQ. She/He will sort you out.
      
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      November 22, 2016 10:03am
      - GoVege
        
        All veges have high IQS, holysheet.
        It’s coz we don’t have animal fat clogging our blood flow to our brains.
        
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        November 22, 2016 8:29pm
    - Happychappy
      
      When you have go back to the past “2009” I would have to wonder who is carrying the jihad.
      
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      November 22, 2016 10:10am
      - GoVege
        
        B/s happychappy.
        The back-breaker served no time and is back at work after tons of public sympathy.
        His victim has been subjected to public criticism on top of her crippling injuries.
        
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        November 22, 2016 8:35pm
- GoVege
  
  Sickening isn’t it Morrissey?
  And to think this creep is back on the air….
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:26pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Still cringingly calling every sportsman he interviews “mate”…
    
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    November 22, 2016 8:36pm
Albert_Ross

Whale seems very fond of the phrase “explaining is losing”. He was at it again yesterday, mocking the attempts of a GNS scientist to respond to people who think it ought to be possible to provide accurate information about the size, nature and scale of an earthquake within seconds of it happening, right down to precise guidance about who needs to evacuate and who doesn’t to avoid a tsunami.

But what then is a body supposed to do when he is misrepresented, his subject poorly or inaccurately reported, and the public given dangerously misleading advice and expectations?
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November 22, 2016 9:23am
- mikenmild
  
  No one takes serious anything the whale-shaped one says.
  Not worth correcting.
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:29am
- Morrissey
  
  Even before Nicky Hager’s devastating exposé of his government-sponsored character assassination campaign in 2014, Cameron Slater had little credibility.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUdYgBhF9-w
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:39am
  - rangitoto
    
    My advice is that you should see your doctor about that.
    
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    November 22, 2016 10:07am
Morrissey

Those thoroughly discredited de facto U.K. government organs the Sun and the Daily Mail are still up to their usual dirty tricks. They’re hard at work for the Blairite rump of the Labour Party, which hates Corbyn even more than the Conservatives. Peter Stepanovic explains it nicely in the following clip….

“Jeremy Corbyn is a man of honesty, a man of integrity, and a man of courage in a political system that is now based on lies and deception and misinformation. The Establishment wants Jeremy Corbyn gone and this is another example of how they’re trying to do it.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSRUharN5ng
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November 22, 2016 9:25am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  ‘Happy hour’ in the Morrissey household must be a really sad affair. Or do they break into Morris dancing to relieve the leftist tedium?
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:51am
EAD

Was just browsing the Jewish Telegraphic Agency to respond to Milkmaid on the Imam article when this article popped up:

http://www.jta.org/1963/11/05/archive/five-jews-arrested-for-painting-swastikas-on-israel-consulate

Every Damn Time – Truly, The Jew Cries Out In Pain As He Strikes You as the ancient Polish Proverb goes
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November 22, 2016 9:42am
- mikenmild
  
  This happened in 1963…
  What’s the latest on the international Jewish conspiracy against European civilisation?
  
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  November 22, 2016 9:48am
  - EAD
    
    But Slavery happened in the 1800’s MM….
    
    The thing is the though MM, the “deplorable”, “far-right”, “extremist”, “post-truth” media who in addition to reporting on Hillary’s ill health and Trumps actual lead in polls, were also carrying numerous articles on how Jewish groups were painting “Swastikas” with the MSM then blaring worldwide headlines on the so called “hate” of Trump supporters.
    
    But by all means, keep demolishing those strawmen
    
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    November 22, 2016 9:54am
    - mikenmild
      
      Yeah, I get it – the Jews are up to their usual nasty tricks.
      What should we do about them?
      
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      November 22, 2016 9:57am
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD, yeah again what is your final solution to the Jewish question ?
      
      “German: die Endlösung der Judenfrage,”
      
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      November 22, 2016 2:01pm
Manolo

Is Morrissey mad?
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November 22, 2016 9:57am
- starboard
  
  Obviously his meds need tweeking a bit today.
  
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  November 22, 2016 10:17am
  - sam green
    
    Yours are just fine though – aye starboard?
    
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    November 22, 2016 2:29pm
Manolo

It will finish it off, so let us hope fans of the veteran socialist succeed in taking the Democratic Party further to the left:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/bernie-mafia-sanders-supporters-look-seize-democratic-party-initiative-n686531

As Hillary Clinton fades from public view, Bernie Sanders is not only still here — he’s everywhere.

And the progressive organisations and operatives who rallied around his presidential campaign — “the Bernie Mafia,” as they call themselves — feel as though they’ve finally won a seat at the adults’ table in the Democratic Party while the Clinton machine retreats.
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November 22, 2016 10:02am
Manolo

The tyrant eyeballs the weak and incompetent:
http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/obama-and-putin-trade-stone-cold-stares-in-tense-standoff/
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November 22, 2016 10:13am
- Gabby
  
  Is it something in the blood that calls out to dictators for you, or just some masochism thing?
  
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  November 22, 2016 6:33pm
Manolo

The Clintonian NYT continues to make a fool of itself:
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/307012-the-new-york-times-and-other-outlets-continue-to-cry-wolf-over-trump

All told, all but one of these stories and editorials can safely be deemed anti-Trump.
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November 22, 2016 10:20am
Scott

Trump has done well since his election triumph. He’s reached out to some of his foes like Mitt Romney and is seriously considering him for a position in his administration. That’s big of Trump considering what Romney said about him.

Also Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer is looking forward to working with Trump in a bipartisan way on a number of issues. A plan to invest in infrastructure will get a lot of Democrat support and his plan to pull out of TPP is also supported by Democrats.

So Trump is reaching across the aisle in a way that was completely foreign to his predecessor.
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November 22, 2016 11:57am
- Manolo
  
  Trump’s predecessor is a weakling, a puny and incompetent man.
  
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  November 22, 2016 12:09pm
- mikenmild
  
  The infrastructure thing is an interesting one for the Democrats, considering that it is essentially similar to the Obama administration plans stymied by the congressional Republicans.
  Democrats in the Senate and House have some interesting choices ahead about cooperating on this that there could be bipartisan agreement on, or copying their rivals and opposing anything from the new administration.
  
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  November 22, 2016 12:22pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Scott, If Trump couldn’t take criticism he wouldn’t have dished it out in the election race.
  
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  November 22, 2016 1:46pm
Manolo

The lying MSM bosses are upset after meeting Trump:
http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/

Donald Trump scolded media big shots during an off-the-record Trump Tower sitdown on Monday, sources told The Post.

“It was like a f–ing firing squad,” one source said of the encounter.

Trump kept saying, ‘We’re in a room of liars, the deceitful dishonest media who got it all wrong.’ He addressed everyone in the room calling the media dishonest, deceitful liars. He called out Jeff Zucker by name and said everyone at CNN was a liar, and CNN was [a] network of liars,” the source said.

The hour-long session included top execs from network and cable news channels. Among the attendees were NBC’s Deborah Turness, Lester Holt and Chuck Todd, ABC’s James Goldston, George Stephanopoulos, David Muir and Martha Raddatz,

Also, CBS’ Norah O’Donnell John Dickerson, Charlie Rose, Christopher Isham and King, Fox News’ Bill Shine, Jack Abernethy, Jay Wallace, Suzanne Scott, MSNBC’s Phil Griffin and CNN’s Jeff Zucker and Erin Burnett.
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November 22, 2016 12:01pm
- holysheet
  
  Go Donald, nothing MSM and lefties like more than being told they are fuckwits who lie when ever they don’t like the truth. Keep up the good work pointing out their stupidity.
  
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  November 22, 2016 12:08pm
- Komata
  
  Evidently, while it’s quite OK for the MSM to dish it out, they don’t like the consequences and, of course, scream about ‘unfairness’ and that the Public ‘has the Right to know’. Somewhat one-sided methinks. A Clive Dunn comment comes immediately to mind, closely-followed by that well-known Anglo-Saxon phrase ‘Diddums’.
  
  Go the Donald!!
  
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  November 22, 2016 12:18pm
- mikenmild
  
  Good stuff. A stern talking to from the president-elect will bring the media into line…
  
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  November 22, 2016 12:24pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Sheesh! This is a tough crowd milky! (I gave you a sympathy tick 🙂 )
    
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    November 22, 2016 1:56pm
- KevinH
  
  Mr Trump could of played out the situation more diplomatically, he isn’the on the campaign trail now.
  He could of rearranged the chairs, put CNN out in the lobby and waited for them to come grovelling.
  He has the upper hand now and can call the shots.
  
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  November 22, 2016 12:38pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Manolo, you’re a resident US politico reporter. What’s all this crap about the press having some sort of constitutional role in comprising “protective cover” for POTUS. I thought that’s what the SS was for and in fact, any other law enforcement agencies who happen to be baby-sitting. I caught the tail end of some b(l)eat up on this the other day. Sounds like self-serving bollocks from the MSM hacks to me. Where does it stop? Press access to his bog to make sure his morning constitutional was trouble-free?
  
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  November 22, 2016 2:04pm
  - Komata
    
    But, but, the media has a RIGHT to know; they’ve convinced themselves that they have – even to the extent that Mr. T can’t even go out for a private meal without issuing a ‘Press Statement’ (seriously).
    
    They have become very, very ‘precious’ and perhaps do need a reality check to remind them where they are in the pecking order (not that they’ll ever listen).
    
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    November 22, 2016 4:16pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Maybe it is time to revisit the convention that the press pool reps go everywhere with the president.
      
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      November 22, 2016 5:33pm
Manolo

After what she has done to Germany she does not deserve to win. We shall see.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-21/merkel-s-fourth-election-will-be-her-toughest

Angela Merkel’s announcement on Sunday that she will run for a fourth term as chancellor was hardly unexpected, given her role as the world’s foremost centrist, one of Europe’s last bulwarks against the hard right and a leader who doesn’t really have a credible rival in Germany. Yet she will probably face the toughest election of her career; victory is far from assured.
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November 22, 2016 12:08pm
- Komata
  
  Manolo
  
  While your coment is correct, don’t overlook the several thousand (now million?) ‘illegals’ whom she welcomed into the country without prior warning or mandate from her people. As with Obama’s Syrians and Mexicans, these ‘gratefuls’ will invariably vote for her, if only in ‘gratitude’. That could contribute to her being returned again (scary thought though that may be).
  
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  November 22, 2016 12:23pm
  - holysheet
    
    We dodged a bullet by not have a liabore govt now. This could be where they would have gotten their million missing voters from. Importing the worlds deadbeats and the Aussie rejects would have been a sure thing. Must be millions out there that would vote for liabore if they had the chance to live here.
    
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    November 22, 2016 12:36pm
  - Manolo
    
    No, I would not disagree with you. That is a strategy destined to get more voters at the cost of ruining the country.
    Obama and Merkel have executed it.
    
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    November 22, 2016 1:06pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo, and the evidence that this government is going to hatch such a plan ?
      
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      November 22, 2016 2:06pm
      - Manolo
        
        No, National wouldn’t, but your Labour or Green comrades would open the door to Muslim immigration.
        
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        November 22, 2016 2:15pm
Don the Kiwi

This clip has just emerged of stephieboy crying over Hillary’s loss – down at the mosque, this must have hit him like a kick in the nuts. 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu8H7Dt5vSA
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November 22, 2016 12:51pm
Inandout

Fancy a drive up One Tree Hill or Mt Wellington like you used to up Mt Eden? Well iwis say you soon won’t be able to, ’cause they say so.
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November 22, 2016 1:07pm
- stephieboy
  
  Inandout , when will that happen ?
  
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  November 22, 2016 2:05pm
  - pentwig
    
    daffy you are one dense brainless duck.
    
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    November 22, 2016 9:02pm
- Komata
  
  Unless you pay a koha ?? (one has to ask).
  
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  November 22, 2016 4:17pm
wiseowl

France moves very interesting with Fillon getting a surge in support.
He agrees with Russia on ISIS and is anti immigration.
Whatever happens now France will be another Brexit.
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November 22, 2016 1:24pm
Manolo

Yes, it looks as if France will be next:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/21/donald-trump-victory-shows-power-is-slipping-from-the-hands-of-the-elites-frances-le-pen.html
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November 22, 2016 1:42pm
Shunda barunda

There’s a very interesting earthquake sequence that has been building just off the coast of the North Island near Porangahau. There was a large slow slip event that started after the Kaikoura earthquake from Hawkes bay up past Gisborne and now this building activity near Porangahau with a number of quakes above mag 4.
There is also a cluster developing near the western end of the Hope fault in the wedge between the Hope fault and the Alpine fault near mount Alexander on the West Coast.
Update:
There has just been a mag 5.4 off Porangahau.
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November 22, 2016 1:49pm
wiseowl

Watch for the next set of smoke and mirrors.
Latest migration figures show net migration 70,000.

Of course this has no impact on housing or infrastructure but looks good for GDP.

It’s a bloody outrage.
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November 22, 2016 3:21pm
- starboard
  
  So long as my house prices keep going up.. I don’t care.
  Muwhahahah! Fuck the first homeowners locked out. I..dont ..care.
  
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  November 22, 2016 5:07pm
Inandout

Some food places to bypass:

http://www.fianz.co.nz/halal-directory
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November 22, 2016 3:27pm
- sam green
  
  Why? Do they serve bad food?
  
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  November 22, 2016 3:56pm
- mikenmild
  
  There is a halal butchery just up the road from us. Luckily, if I walk by quickly I don’t catch any halal.
  
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  November 22, 2016 4:00pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    I hear there has been a mysterious rise in family pets going missing in your area as well MM.
    Does Mohammed at the butchery have any ideas?.
    
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    November 22, 2016 4:06pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I fear you have been misinformed. Did you read that on the internet?
      
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      November 22, 2016 4:09pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        I admit I could be mistaken.
        It might have been the local Chinaman or curry joint instead.
        
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        November 22, 2016 4:14pm
      - mikenmild
        
        You? Mistaken?
        
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        November 22, 2016 4:23pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        I will share a secret with you MM.
        I have been wrong once before as well.
        I used to think only monkeys ate bananas, then one day I walked past WINZ on dole day.
        
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        November 22, 2016 4:40pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Mikey
    Pop in and score some Merguez sausages. Very tasty on a bbq.
    
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    November 22, 2016 4:33pm
Harriet

News of the Day! 😎

“…..Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has told parliament that Malcolm Fraser’s government made a mistake in allowing Lebanese refugees to come to Australia in the 1970s.

During Question Time on Monday Mr Dutton said that a majority of people charged with terrorist-related offences are second and third generation Lebanese-Muslim Australians.
“The advice I have is that out of the last 33 people who have been charged with terrorist-related offences in this country, 22 of those people are from second and third generation Lebanese-Muslim background,” Mr Dutton said.
Yesterday’s statements came after opposition leader Bill Shorten asked Mr Dutton to clarify some comments he made to Sky News last week.

On Sky News Mr Dutton had said: “The reality is Malcolm Fraser did make mistakes in bringing some people in the 1970s and we’re seeing that today.
“We need to be honest in having that discussion. There was a mistake made.
“Lessons from past migrant programs should be learnt for people settling in Australia today.”
Labor MP Tim Watts took to his Facebook to label the comments “extraordinary”.
“The Minister for Immigration seems to think that criminal behaviour by ‘second and third generation migrants’ (AKA ‘Australians’, AKA the grandchildren of migrants) is attributable to immigration policy,” he wrote…..”

Watts is omitting some important facts:

Nearly all the Lebanese muslims of any generation are on some kind of benefit.

While nearly all the Lebanese Maronite Christians who arrived with the Lebanese muslims – are not on benefits.

Lebanese muslims clearly don’t like our way of life and don’t want to contribute.
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November 22, 2016 3:39pm
- sam green
  
  They always blame the Lesbians.
  
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  November 22, 2016 3:55pm
- wiseowl
  
  Good coverage on this with Andrew Bolt last night.
  
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  November 22, 2016 4:43pm
- Gabby
  
  Did they only let in 33? That’s fuckall.
  
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  November 22, 2016 6:19pm
- GoVege
  
  Amazing the ingratitude of these refugees. …but then of course we are infidels.
  How can one owe any kind of debt to one of those.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:38pm
Pateke

I seem to remember Dexter Dutton. Used to be on the radio at 7pm on a monday night. Life with Dexter. Nice to see he has such a responsible job these days.
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November 22, 2016 4:08pm
- Gabby
  
  Peda Duddin’s a whole other ball of wax.
  
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  November 22, 2016 6:18pm
Komata

Naah, Wilmott would so his best to ensure that NEVER happened!!

(BTW, your age is showing; just saying).
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November 22, 2016 4:20pm
Don the Kiwi

http://the-american-catholic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/CwlXrg8XAAA_HkC.jpg

Doncha just love it?
Stephen Boyle will be distressed.
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November 22, 2016 4:56pm
Fletch

Liberals are in such a tiz that they lost the election that now they are seeking to ban so-called “fake” news sites. In reality, what this means is that they are afraid of dissenting viewpoints getting out to people through social media posts and are trying to stifle those posts.

A leftie female professor has been hired to make a list of sites that should be banned, and – surprise, surprise – they include Drudge and Breitbart. Apparently Facebook and Google will use said list to block news from those sites.

The left, ey? They just don’t give up. If they don’t like something they try to censor it.

https://thedailycoin.org/2016/11/19/meet-leftist-professor-wrote-hit-list-fake-news-sites/
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November 22, 2016 5:00pm
- mikenmild
  
  For one I agree with you, Fletch. If people are too stupid to appreciate the stuff on Breitbart, etc is manly bullshit then they are probably beyond help.
  
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  November 22, 2016 5:37pm
- mikenmild
  
  For once I agree with you, Fletch. If people are too stupid to appreciate the stuff on Breitbart, etc is manly bullshit then they are probably beyond help.
  
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  November 22, 2016 5:42pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Hell MM you do make mistakes after me thinking you were infallible.By the way you are not one of those two bob Pom’s that immigrated here in the fifty’s /sixty’s are you.
    
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    November 22, 2016 7:11pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Sorry, I don’t answer personal questions.
      
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      November 22, 2016 7:54pm
Reid

Anonymous Trump Plan to Settle 3 5 Million Christian Refugees Along US West Coast

…to replace the work all the illegal migrants that he’s going to deport currently do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N9RDMvAaf4

Obama let in 56 Christian refugees last year. That’s not a typo. 56 total.

Plus by settling these Christians in the costal bastions of liberalism he turns them from socialist to conservative and they can’t see anything, because they’re wefugees.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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November 22, 2016 5:20pm
Fletch

Is Trump really against Blacks, Hispanics, gays and immigrants? No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWh4a98Fwlc
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November 22, 2016 5:26pm
Reid

What follows is shocking evidence that crisis actors, green screens, CGI, and paid propagandists are being used to fake worldwide events in order to scare people into giving up liberties and sending us into war.

To say this was shocking would be to put it lightly.

From video proof showing “dead soldiers” killed by “chemical weapons” walking around after they thought the videos stopped recording, to digitally altering sounds to add in “explosions” that never happened, this segment demonstrates some of the most damming evidence against the media ever shown on television.

In this brave segment, it’s shown that CNN, Fox news, MSNBC, BBC are all guilty and need to be exposed and punished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blg9XVBUEZg
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November 22, 2016 5:34pm
- Gabby
  
  Fake.
  
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  November 22, 2016 6:15pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    We know you are
    
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    November 22, 2016 6:45pm
    - Gabby
      
      Cutting edge stuff, Steve.
      
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      November 22, 2016 10:27pm
Reid

Lies, double-talk and deception have the become the hallmarks of U.S. political leadership and this is perfectly illustrated by President Barack Obama.

Contrary to what his supporters were saying when he first entered the White House, Obama was not America’s “first Black president”. His mother was white, making him mixed race.

His mother, Ann Dunham, has been linked to the CIA and that’s a tradition that many suspected Obama continued, insofar as his policies relied on the tools of the trade in the agency: deception and double-talk.

President Obama claims he had wrestled with the question of U.S. involvement in Syria for five years. Yet under his watch the U.S. and its allies in Saudi Arabia and Turkey have covertly backed Syrian opposition groups in an effort to oust Syrian President Assad.

Obama says he concluded that the U.S. didn’t have any legal basis for military involvement in Syria, which is true up to a point. What he doesn’t say is that as a result the U.S. backed a covert operation using Sunni militants in an effort to oust President Assad.

If he “wrestled” with any aspect of the operation it was how much his administration would reveal about the support it was providing; to groups ranging from supposedly “moderate” Syria opposition to Al Qaeda linked al-Nusra.

President Obama’s comments show that he knows that history will judge him very harshly. As indeed it should. For Obama effectively authorised a terror campaign to bring about regime change in Syria.

It failed largely because of Putin’s decisive intervention, which in a matter of months turned the course of war around. Leaving U.S. efforts against the militants looking like the half-hearted, insincere and militarily ineffective campaign it was: in essence a public relations job.

While Putin’s standing is increasing in the eyes of many across the world Obama’s is diminishing. In the end he will be seen as a fraud and a front man for the people who really call the shots in the U.S. That will be his legacy.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/obama-blames-russia-iran-in-bleak-assessment-of-syria/story-YQVhg738TgU4cndmhFpw6H.html
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November 22, 2016 5:36pm
- mikenmild
  
  That’s hilarious. Barack Obama’s mother might have been a CIA agent; so he’s dangerous. Vladimir Putin was a KGB officer; but that’s just great.
  
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  November 22, 2016 5:44pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Proves Putin knows what he is doing, and Obama has to ask his Mum. You are hilarious Mike!
    
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    November 22, 2016 7:00pm
Manolo

Some blacks deserted the corrupt Clinton:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/milwaukee-hard-pressed-black-voters-dumped-clinton-221227365.html
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November 22, 2016 6:56pm
Reid

This is great.

Hillary Dementia Confirmed by Daughter Chelsea?? Tweets ‘Dementia’ On 11-17-2016!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgQ2P7ipL4I
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November 22, 2016 7:07pm
- sam green
  
  Why Reid? It’s nonsense.
  
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  November 22, 2016 7:56pm
Reid

Why Trump Won And Hillary Lost

By Frosty Wooldridge
11-21-16

This year, the British people, overwhelmed by senseless and endless mass immigration invading their country—stopped it with their Brexit vote to exit the European Union

British citizens saved what’s left of their country by stopping the immigration flood. The majority of Muslim immigrants feed off the UK welfare system without end. They demonstrate for Sharia Law. They bring their honor killings, female genital mutilation practices, killings of gays and arranged marriages into the advanced culture of first world Great Britain. Other groups of immigrants from Africa change the entire culture and ethos of Great Britain to make it “everybody’s country”, rather than its founders—the British people.

The Brits felt exasperation at their leaders importing incompatible cultures and religions displacing them from their own country.

Brits voted against the “elites” forfeiting their country to mass immigration—much like Canada’s Trudeau, Germany’s Merkel, France’s Hollande and Australia’s Tony Abott. Those leaders forced refugee immigration on their people with no regard as to the sociological, racial, cultural and religious conflicts growing at every juncture. Consequently, Muslim immigrants created the Charlie Hebdo massacre, Paris, France slaughter, Nice, France truck killings, Brussels, Belgium, London, England beheadings…and more to come.

At his “last rodeo” trip to Europe, Barack Obama quipped, “The majority of Americans think I’m doing a pretty good job.”

Such a statement proves his cognitive dissonance and his arrogance in the face of facts…

…When Obama entered the White House with scant experience and meager credentials, our national debt reached $13 trillion. In eight years, he jumped it to $19.5 trillion via lack of any financial acumen. We all pay over $30 million monthly in interest payments from our taxes.

During his tenure, he invited illegal aliens, by refusing to enforce our laws, over our borders to give them housing, food and schooling—but left 60,000 American military veterans out in the cold. The VA failed them because Obama failed.

Obama created the greatest racial divide in America since the Detroit, Michigan riots of 1968. He promoted and praised the anarchist group: Black Lives Matter. He told everyone that the thug Trayvon Martin could be his son. He encouraged violence in Ferguson, Missouri when Michael Brown attacked white police officer Darren Johnson. In the aftermath, black gangs and black Muslims executed police officers in many cities across America: New York, Chicago, Dallas, Baton Rouge and Atlanta.

Unknown by most Americans, Obama employed 10 Muslims as aides to promote Islam and Sharia Law in America. His one aide named Imam Mohammed Magid works full time in the White House to promote Sharia Law in America. Sharia Law conflicts with the U.S. Constitution. One of his immigration aides promotes as much Muslim immigration into America as he can get away with under cover of executive privilege. The Quran espouses these actions known as “hjhra”, another word for “seeding” a host country with an advance group of Muslims in order to conquer that country. It’s working all over Europe and destroying European countries at breakneck speed.

Muslims cannot in any way become Americans. The Quran forbids it. Their entire context of religious-political Sharia Law demands subjugation to their religion with no allegiance to the U.S. Constitution. The Quran forbids women’s rights, marital choice, free speech, gay rights and religious rights. Our way of life remains completely out of bounds to Islam….

…Americans knew Hillary’s platform promises that if she became president, she would flood this country with hundreds of thousands of Muslim Syrian refugees that would wreak havoc in communities across the country. Hillary promised amnesty for 15 to 31 million illegal aliens. Her election guaranteed America’s borders would see accelerated illegal immigration. We must understand one reality: the third world adds 80,000,000 (million), net gain, new babies annually. They overwhelm their countries and create desperate migration to Western countries. But in the end, they don’t stabilize their birth rates, so the line of refugees accelerates:
Take five minutes to see for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE&feature=player_embedded

Hillary promised to fill the Supreme Court with liberal justices who would follow her personal quest for open borders. Note: NPR reported that 85-90 percent of Evangelical Christian women voted for Trump to stop the Supreme Court from being stacked with pro-choice justices.

In reality, the democrats and republicans created Donald J. Trump. They created Trump because for 40 years, Congress and our last six presidents failed to secure our borders and failed to stop “Free Trade”. These actions degraded America’s middle class by stealing jobs and allowed China to manufacture all our mercantile goods. Our poor and uneducated could not secure jobs because of millions of legal and illegal immigrants—taking those jobs.

In a sense, we Americans didn’t realize that endless immigration destroyed the fabric of our society with the insane beast of the 21st century: multiculturalism and diversity. Both don’t work, but average Americans must suffer from the tensions, conflict and religious chaos created by them…

…“Diversity within a nation destroys unity and leads to civil wars,” said social scientist Garret Hardin. “Immigration, a benefit during the youth of a nation, can act as a disease in its mature state. Too much internal diversity in large nations has led to violence and disintegration. We are now in the process of destabilizing our own country. The magic words of destabilizers are ‘diversity’ and ‘multiculturalism’.”

http://www.rense.com/general96/whytrumpwon.htm#sthash.CjLojkqd.dpuf

I’ve been telling you for years Obama’s a Muslim, that he’s MB.

I’ve been telling you for decades we are being setup for a Muslim-Christian war. Do you possibly imagine all of this is “coincidence?” Across the Western world, right across it? Nothing’s going on, of course. Why naturally. How could it. It can’t. So it isn’t.

Is it.
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November 22, 2016 7:42pm
- mikenmild
  
  I’ve been telling you for years Obama’s a Muslim, that he’s MB
  
  Yes, you have been saying that for years. Along with lots of other bullshit, ,as well.
  
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  November 22, 2016 7:52pm
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    You don’t think it’s interesting he’s got ten Muslim Inner Advisers with duties as outlined and no American is aware of that?
    
    Sorry if our tastes differ mm, but I think that’s quite interesting.
    
    P.S. I’m not really sorry.
    
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    November 22, 2016 7:53pm
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      What is an ‘inner adviser’? How many advisers, inner or outer, are there in the White House? Of those, how many are Muslims? – please list their names.
      
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      November 22, 2016 8:01pm
Viking2

The trouble began in Vynfields. The punters didn’t cause the trouble, not a flicker of it, we were just smiling at a world that smiled back.

But then a policeman and two policewomen came in. They inserted themselves into the small dancing crowd in front of the stage. They were literally looking for trouble. It was so sinister, I decided to keep an eye on them.

After a while I sensed that they might have clocked me. So I moved on, looked away. Then they started to follow me. Was I being paranoid? Maybe, but that was the atmosphere they had created. Big Brother was watching.

One vineyard owner said – and he or she prefers to remain anonymous because they get hassled for speaking out – “Many good things came from policy changes over the past years, such as more water consumption, chill out areas, intervention and assessment of patrons and the like. The levels of intoxication have been significantly reduced

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/86677168/mark-reason-police-went-too-far-at-toast-martinborough

Mr & Mrs Plods annoying their paymasters all over again.
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November 22, 2016 7:50pm
wiseowl

I think we have ‘seeding’ going on in Auckland.
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November 22, 2016 8:01pm
- Reid
  
  Yes but in our case it’s Asians. Have you noticed who they are overall? Hardly high quality. When it would have been a relatively simple matter to make that so. But no. Apparently, someone didn’t want that.
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:30pm
Ross12

It looks like some Democrats will go to any lengths to get their idol into the WH ( so much for DEMANDING Trump agree to accept the election result a couple of weeks before the election)

“….BuzzFeed reported Thursday that the #NotMyPresident Alliance, a national anti-Donald Trump protest group, has released the personal information of dozens of Electoral College members in states that voted Republican.

A spreadsheet distributed to supporters Wednesday included the electors’ personal phone numbers, addresses, religions, races, genders and candidate preference.
The group hopes its members and citizens around the country will contact electors and pressure them to change their vote from Trump….”
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November 22, 2016 8:41pm
Reid

Trump announces, to my delight, on day one he will issue a Notice of Intent to withdraw from the TPP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xX_KaStFT8

TPP had two faults:

It was not about trade between nations it was about trade between nations and multinationals with the latter given power over the former.

It was a geopolitical move by the West to screw the BRICS.

It will be interesting to see if, given the latter which they of course are well aware of want a bar of it, or not. They might see it as a useful vehicle and take it over.

Wouldn’t that be ironic.

And once again, illustrates the profound, seriously profound failures committed by the liberal’s hero, their main man, their global “powerhouse.” One Barack Husein Obama.

If I was a lefty, I’d be really depressed right now. It hasn’t started yet. Wait till the FBI announces what its found on Jan 21st – (watch mm take that date literally and mock me when it comes up and nothing’s happened) – then you’ll see weeping and wailing as the lefties finally realise what execrable scum they’ve been voting for all their lives.
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November 22, 2016 8:51pm
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  21st January? Will that be before or after the total worldwide economic collapse?
  
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  November 22, 2016 8:56pm
nasska

I would like to congratulate drugs for winning the war on drugs.
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November 22, 2016 9:10pm
starboard

LOL, murri banning access to Auckland volcanos,
you wait..6 months the ban will be gone replaced by a fee to visit. Clever ‘dem murri.
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November 22, 2016 9:18pm
dad4justice

Is Tim Barnett and Ramon really responsible for all these vile earthquakes in Canterbury or is it Peter Davis?
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November 22, 2016 10:03pm
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  Hi D4J, how are you this evening?
  
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  November 22, 2016 10:25pm
BeeSting

A Message from President-Elect Donald J. Trump

https://youtu.be/7xX_KaStFT8
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November 22, 2016 11:37pm
Manolo

Unqualified divas, divos, prima donnas and delicate flowers who want to lecture you on how to vote.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3959536/Some-stars-Hamilton-haven-t-voted-years-despite-clash-vice-president-elect-Mike-Pence-booed-audience.html
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