General Debate 18 November 2016

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Manolo

Let us hope Mamma Merkel tastes electoral defeat:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/germanys-merkel-run-fourth-term-next-party-ally-105348299.html

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is expected to announce on Sunday whether she will run for a fourth term in next year’s federal election, the Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland media group said on Wednesday.
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November 18, 2016 8:02am
- cmm
  
  I wonder if all her fans will also go to Canada.
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:04am
Huevon

We will multiply our numbers. We must have more children than the Christians because it’s the only way we can destroy them here

Allahu Akbar mama Merkel!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3944874/They-want-Islamised-despise-country-values-Translator-German-refugee-camp-says-Muslim-migrants-display-pure-hatred-Christians.html
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November 18, 2016 8:07am
Keeping Stock

8.08am, and another General Debate is already buggered 😀
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November 18, 2016 8:08am
- Huevon
  
  KS, it’s a morning ritual like making a coffee.
  
  1. Someone posts about the Islamic invasion of Western countries
  2. many reply in agreement
  3. stephie boy and mikenmild chime in to make apologies for mass murderers and barbarians
  4. David Garrett makes a point that shows he was right all along
  5. Stephie loses his shit
  6. Repeat next morning
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:19am
  - Morrissey
    
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    Not for the first time, our friend Huevon gets it completely wrong….
    
    3. stephie boy and mikenmild chime in to make apologies for mass murderers and barbarians
    
    The people apologizing for mass murderers and barbarians are those who support the invasion of other countries, the bombing, shooting and gassing of millions of people, the drone assassination of thousands, and the illegal occupation of captured territory.
    
    stephieboy and mikenmild write in opposition to all that.
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:01am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, well, your “side” elected Obama to do all these things….
      
      Bit racist of you to criticize him though; or at least it used to be, has that changed now ?
      
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      November 18, 2016 11:20am
      - Morrissey
        
        I oppose Obama because of his crimes, not because he is an African-American.
        
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        November 18, 2016 11:26am
      - Kimbo
        
        I oppose Obama because of his crimes…
        
        “WE have warned the Kaiser before!”
        
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        November 18, 2016 12:46pm
      - sam green
        
        Come back when you understand what racism is Ed Snack.
        
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        November 18, 2016 3:19pm
- thedavincimode
  
  The Lord moves in mysterious ways KS. 🙂
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:23am
flipper

CMM …………

Nah….
They have already gone to France and Belgium…..
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November 18, 2016 8:09am
Rich Prick

Have all of the “famous actors” made good on their pledges and formed an orderly queue at the Canadian border yet? Or are they just extra special blow-hards?
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November 18, 2016 8:12am
- Manolo
  
  I expect progressives George Clooney and Madonna to lead the way. It could be a long wait, though.
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:17am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Speaking of Madonna, any news on how her jaw held out?
    
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    November 18, 2016 8:37am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      The Clinton campaign are blaming Comey AND Madonna for her loss.
      
      Apparently exit polls showed that younger black and latinos males were voting for Trump just to ensure that Madonna didn’t make good on her promise to them!
      
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      November 18, 2016 8:50am
    - Nukuleka
      
      Imagine if a Trump supporter had said she would give oral sex to all those who voted for him!! The OUTRAGE on the liberal media would be deafening. By the way, hell must be pretty full these days after Madeleine Albright’s threat that there was a special place reserved there for all women who didn’t vote for Hillary. Pretty chokka I guess.
      
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      November 18, 2016 2:16pm
- cmm
  
  The bit I don’t get is that if they love all this diversity why go to white countries like Canada.
  
  Surely they should be drawn to more interesting countries like Syria, Venezuela or Mexico. Those are the people they say they want more of.
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:21am
  - Morrissey
    
    Canada is a “white country” is it?
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=871-3XMhtAk
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:23am
    - cmm
      
      Yup, as is NZ.
      
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      November 18, 2016 10:50am
      - Morrissey
        
        Idiot.
        
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        November 18, 2016 3:28pm
    - Garbageman
      
      On one of rather infrequent trips to your home away from home The Standard I have noticed you have been banned by that revolting old trout Weka for trolling, its nice to see you come to a blog that actually represents free speech shame all you do is try to stir up the locals like a child and that DPF is a rather lenient host eh, still it amuses me that even that rag tag lot of clowns cant stand you either
      
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      November 18, 2016 11:06am
      - Morrissey
        
        ….noticed you have been banned by that revolting old trout Weka for trolling
        
        “Trolling” is such an ugly word, Garbageman. But, yes, I’m banned again, this time for one week. That’s my sixth stand-down from the Standard. I’ll be back there next Thursday—but I shall never return to the blogs run by Brian Edwards or Cameron “Blubberguts” Slater, as they have both banned me for life.
        
        http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads22/WI_Respek1379041190.jpg
        
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        November 18, 2016 3:33pm
    - Zed
      
      Canada’s cultural heritage that makes it a magnet for 3rd worlders is the result of white people settling there first, just like NZ, OZ, US, and every other country where whites are majority.
      
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      November 18, 2016 12:24pm
- Andrei
  
  Steven Seagal has just taken Russian citizenship, does that count?
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:27am
  - Rich Prick
    
    He probably just clicked on the wrong pop-up ad.
    
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    November 18, 2016 8:34am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      You need to understand that Steven Seagal, Chuck Norris, Van Damme, Arnold and Dolf Lungren have all been canonized in Russia and are national heroes.
      
      A generation of children learned how to kick ass and say – “See you in hell Motherfucker!” by watching badly dubbed VHS copies of all the 90s action classics.
      
      I myself had a Copy of “Showdown in little Tokyo” and “Commando”. Watched with love so many times the VHS tape was starting to loose quality.
      
      So making Seagal a citizen makes sense in a wider East vs West cultural context if we look at the collapse of the Soviet Union and the first wave of Western culture breaking through the Iron Curtain as a point of reference.
      
      One of the reasons why Russia is scarry is because they had a whole generation raised on Commando as opposed to Seasemie Street and Playschool.
      
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      November 18, 2016 8:39am
      - Fletch
        
        There’s a documentary film called Chuck Norris Vs Communism about how pirates snuck copies of Chuck Norris/ Arnold / Segal movies etc into Romania in the 1980s. They were dubbed in the local language and helped people to see what America and capitalism looked like, even though they were illegal to watch.
        
        Trailer – https://youtu.be/znp1dNaPp3k
        
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        November 18, 2016 10:25am
  - Jack5
    
    I see French film actor Gerard Depardieu has also taken Russian citizenship. Depardieu is described by Wikipedia as one of the most prolific film actors in history.
    
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    November 18, 2016 11:35am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Depardieu was loved by the generation before mine.
      
      Also he had massive tax problems in France.
      
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      November 18, 2016 12:52pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      More of a prolific eater nowadays.
      
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      November 18, 2016 1:32pm
    - Manolo
      
      Italian actress Ornella Muti appears to be doing the same.
      
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      November 18, 2016 1:35pm
oldpark

How appropiate. Latest new word of the year put out by Oxford Dictionary owners. Its called “Post-Truth “,defined as” belonging to a time in which truth has become irrelevant”.Suits NZs Lie-bour/Green parties daily denial of the great work John Key and the National Government,continuously do for NZ .
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November 18, 2016 8:14am
- Keeping Stock
  
  How can that be the WORD of the year? “Post-truth” is actually TWO words, joined by a hyphen.
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:19am
  - mikenmild
    
    A compound word.
    
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    November 18, 2016 8:24am
  - oldpark
    
    @KS
    Really !!!!!! How about airplane? or toothbrush.?
    
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    November 18, 2016 8:36am
  - Gabby
    
    Nothing sadder than an inaccurate pedant.
    
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    November 18, 2016 8:44am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  No wonder the post-truthers don’t like pre-post-truthers.
  They keep bringing up the four-letter f word
  “fact”
  
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  November 18, 2016 9:04am
- doggone7
  
  I’d seen the word/term ‘post-truth’ and wondered what it meant.
  
  Seeing the Oxford Dictionary definition only clarifies it a little.
  
  Is it true to say that in a post-truth era, John Key is truly a truthful person? Is there a possibility that a further evolution will see a person with his demonstrated characteristics being termed a “new-true” or somesuch? Something modern, with a Ponsonby sort of sound and feel to it.
  
  “Lying bastard” is so passé.
  
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  November 18, 2016 9:19am
calendar girl

Stuff is still using the following headline on its web-page:

Live: 7.8 NZ quake

While the heading relates to miscellaneous post-quake happenings, that headline is just deliberately misleading. Duplicitous click-bait.
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November 18, 2016 8:23am
- mikenmild
  
  The link is to the live blog on the quake
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:26am
  - calendar girl
    
    Yes, but the bold headline itself doesn’t tell you that.
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:14am
Viking2

The Stars are pissed because their earnings via tax free countries are going to get the sunlight shone upon them.
Trump wants the money back in the good ol USA.

Just like we want our share from them. It pisses me that these guys can come here Sell their tickets via an oversea’s agency. Pay no tax or probably GST on the money collected when I can’t do the same while running my business as a citizen of this country.
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November 18, 2016 8:26am
- Lance
  
  Seriously V2???
  The wicked stars are having the sunlight shone upon them for not paying tax…. by someone who doesn’t pay tax
  
  FFS
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:30am
- Flash
  
  I get cross when I see tickets for a concert being sold 8-9 months in advance. It’s money for nothing. Does it stay in this country earning interest and paying tax, or is it swept off shore to line the pockets of the ticket clippers along the way?
  
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  November 18, 2016 9:35am
  - mikenmild
    
    You don’t have to buy. Just like I don’t have to buy a two-year Hurricanes membership if I want to watch the Lions tour next year.
    
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    November 18, 2016 10:03am
    - starboard
      
      Dullard.
      
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      November 18, 2016 11:19am
      - sam green
        
        Ooo look – 2 syllables.
        
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        November 18, 2016 7:51pm
Happychappy

The Earthquake must be sucking the air out of Labour and their attack on National and their housing figures as Phil Twyford has been posting story’s that the National Government is fudging figures in the latest house sales data that has recently been released.He must be pissed or he has really burn’t his bridges with the Media as no one is listening or making a crisis of his latest rant
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November 18, 2016 8:26am
- Gabby
  
  Even Nothing Guy popped his head up for a post chopper ride now I’m an expert interview.
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:47am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Who’s got the asylum key?
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:09am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Don’t worry Cap’n
      
      The sweet sherry will take over soon and the Gabster will be rocking back and forth in the corner mumbling about ponyboy and askshully and Hulun while giving itself shock therapy.
      
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      November 18, 2016 9:25am
Morrissey

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Now look for some nasty Whaleoil attack pieces about Tom Hunt

Paula Bennett, the alleged Minister for Social Housing, got her cronies to try to intimidate Dominion Post journalist Tom Hunt into changing the following story to make it less embarrassing for the government. He ignored them and published it unchanged….

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/86091620/depressed-wellington-mans-impossible-search-for-a-suitable-home

“Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”
—anti-slavery activist Wendell Phillips, 1852
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November 18, 2016 8:40am
- Gabby
  
  Five business days and Fat Cambo will be right on it.
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:48am
  - Morrissey
    
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    He’ll probably order his manservant Jordan Williams to snoop around his house in the small hours, in similar fashion to the way he was forced out of his bed to go to Wellington Airport—as documented, hilariously, in Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics.
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:06am
- fernglas
  
  I don’t see why anyone should attack that piece of journalism; it is pretty balanced and if anything favourable to the Housing Corp; the headline is, of course, misleading.
  
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  November 18, 2016 8:54am
  - mikenmild
    
    Cries out for follow-up reporting. HNZ says one thing; would-be tenant and friend say another.
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:07am
    - fernglas
      
      If that was the basis for follow-up reporting, there would be little else in the papers!!
      
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      November 18, 2016 9:13am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Obviously an example of post-truth reporting.
      
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      November 18, 2016 11:24am
  - Morrissey
    
    That’s exactly why the National Party is upset by it.
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:12am
- Happychappy
  
  I didn’t see any posts from you defending Andrea Vance and others that were attacked because they did not print the lies that Phil Twyford and Andrew Little wanted in their cost figures of the youth employment scheme policy.You cut,copy and post because you can’t make a point without the help of the media’s destorted facts
  
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  November 18, 2016 9:23am
  - Morrissey
    
    Twyford and Little rightly contested what they felt was slipshod and prejudiced coverage of their policies. That’s in no way comparable to the Prime Minister’s office running a campaign of character assassination against journalists and community organizations, as Nicky Hager showed so damningly in Dirty Politics.
    
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    November 18, 2016 11:54am
    - Happychappy
      
      Stop playing with yourself you are hallucinating.
      
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      November 18, 2016 12:53pm
      - sam green
        
        Run out of sensible thoughts to string together happy Chappy?
        
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        November 18, 2016 8:07pm
- rangitoto
  
  You have to be kidding. Slater hates Paula Bennett.
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:20am
Pateke

Auckland’s needs exceed Kaikoura’s, says Mayor of a month. You know what? Fa’a Goff!
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November 18, 2016 9:16am
Morrissey

Professor who predicted Trump win has another bold forecast about the president-elect…

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2016/11/17/i-think-hes-right/
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November 18, 2016 9:18am
- holysheet
  
  With all the lefties being shut out of congress, fat chance of any impeachment proceedings being successful.
  We won, your lot lost, again and again.
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:30am
  - stephieboy
    
    holysheet , the impeachment process is initiated regardless of who has the majority and if it is established that the President has committed a crime or crimes prior or during his office,
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States
    
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    November 18, 2016 10:56am
  - Morrissey
    
    You should read what the professor says, holysheet: the Republicans will go after him too. He’s a loose cannon, and utterly irresponsible, as his proposed appointments to cabinet show only too grimly.
    
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    November 18, 2016 11:29am
    - holysheet
      
      Aw sweet cheeks, you should look in the mirror and see you own dear leader. His support is far slimmer than Trumps ever will be.
      
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      November 18, 2016 3:32pm
      - Morrissey
        
        And who is my “dear leader”?
        
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        November 18, 2016 3:37pm
      - holysheet
        
        Very good question. If even you wont admit who it is, then liabore really is a non entity.
        
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        November 18, 2016 3:46pm
SPC

With the coast road out for months – the road and rail traffic will be too much for the Murchison route (esp with the summer tourists).

Time to send more by ship from Auckland and Wellington to Christchurch. Maybe a summer direct service from Wellington instead of one of the ferries.
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November 18, 2016 9:20am
waikatogirl

Kaikoura update:
“They are bringing in 1000 chemical toilets for each of the houses in the area.”

1000 for each house, wow!
I’m sure 1 to each house will be sufficient ?
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November 18, 2016 9:35am
- Peter
  
  Well, it depends if the house is occupied by Labour Party members. 1000 may not be enough.
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:18am
- holysheet
  
  We all know liabores spout shit from every orafice, there must be a haven of them in Kaikoura
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:32am
  - stephieboy
    
    Petet and holysheet , is that all you both can do in your bone idle and bored moments ?
    
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    November 18, 2016 11:00am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Says stephieboy, who appears to have spent 700% more of his bone idle and bored moments on KB than either Peter or holysheet have.
      
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      November 18, 2016 11:36am
    - holysheet
      
      yep, it’s good to remind you losers that we won every now and then.
      
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      November 18, 2016 3:33pm
Flash

Hopefully there will be a lively entrepreneur some where who will do day trips to Kaikoura so that people can have a break at an isolated, tourist spot.
Pick-up Wgtn or Chch, stay 2- 3 days, then deliver at the other end. Time to eat, shop, and whale watch, move on.
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November 18, 2016 9:43am
Keeping Stock

Congratulations to Tom Hunter, who won my TradeMe auction for a Chicago Cubs World Series Champions t-shirt. It’s on its way.

SWMBO is well on the way to having her coveted locks shorn off; all that remains to be seen is how low the number on the comb is. And if she can raise ten grand, it won’t just be a comb/clipper cut; the blade will come out and she’ll do a full nude nut.
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November 18, 2016 9:49am
- tom hunter
  
  The blade? Holly hell, that’s staunch.
  
  One of my relations is in remission from Hairy Cell Lukemia after a round of chemotherapy. I was surprised to find that this treatment was mild enough that his hair did not fall out, even though that was expected. It’s not as “famous” as other types of lukemia but it will kill you just the same – and slowly.
  
  Anyway, best of luck to Shave For A Cure. I got to donate to a good charity and get the t-shirt!!!
  
  Just hope my beloved sister-in-law in Chicago does not now inundate me with Cubs 2016 WS stuff!!!!
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:06am
Simon

Apartment developers kept asking for price increases after SPA signed citing higher input costs.

Glorious Central Bank says no inflation and have to keep lowering interest rates to stimulate borrowing and spending.

In other breaking news:
Record turnip harvest due to John Key’s special personal magnetism with world leaders such as Trump.
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November 18, 2016 9:50am
Reid

Twitter begins a mass purge of accounts it feels promote alternative right hate speech

Twitter is a private company and can do as it wishes, but this latest move from the social media company to remove accounts it feels do not comply with its way of thinking is one slippery slope that will inevitably lead to the company’s demise.

Instead of treating its product like a utility based business, standing far and away from social issues by simply providing a communication tool, Twitter execs have decided to take sides and use their ownership of the “pipes” to influence outcomes, filter results, and remove speech it finds objectionable.

Twitter has begun the process of suspended accounts associated with the alt-right movement. This comes on the same day that Twitter said it would crack down on hate speech…

http://theduran.com/twitter-begins-a-mass-purge-of-accounts-it-feels-promote-alternative-right-hate-speech/
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November 18, 2016 9:50am
- mikenmild
  
  Twitter has no obligation to promote particular ideas. Most of its so-called censorship seems to be shutting down the accounts of people who violate its terms of business.
  No one has the right to have their views published in a privately controlled medium.
  A simple example would be someone banned from Kiwiblog for numerous violations of our host’s standard. That person’s right to free speech would not be suppressed.
  
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  November 18, 2016 9:59am
  - Reid
    
    You didn’t read the bit about it’s right to do so but it’s unwise mm? Did you read it but misunderstand it? It’s in the first sentence or two, the answer to your point mate.
    
    Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
    
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    November 18, 2016 10:07am
    - mikenmild
      
      Oh I read it, but I don’t agree that Twitter, or Facebook, or Kiwiblog are just ‘utilities’ to be used however the customers feel.
      If the ‘alt-right’ feel shut out, they can promote their own media. That should fit with their ideas of freedom. They’re not insisting everyone read Breitbart or Stormfront, where their own form of censorship prevails.
      
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      November 18, 2016 10:11am
      - Reid
        
        If you can’t understand the difference between a technology solution and a media platform then this explains a great deal, mm.
        
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        November 18, 2016 10:45am
      - mikenmild
        
        It’s a purely commercial decision. Twitter can quite rightly decide that hosting people whose views are abhorrent to the vast majority of its customers is bad for business.
        Just as I would tell EAD to leave if I were a bar owner and he was loudly sounding off on my premises about the international Jewish conspiracy. Such things spoil the atmosphere for decent customers.
        There is nothing wrong with private entities or businesses setting their own terms of trade. Disgruntled extremists, or whoever, can start their own Twitters, Facebooks or blogs.
        
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        November 18, 2016 10:55am
      - EAD
        
        he was loudly sounding off on my premises about the international Jewish conspiracy.
        
        So you admit there is an international conspiracy now do you MM? 🙂
        
        FWIW, I discuss this in the pub quite a lot with people. I broach it carefully at first, less they get triggered, but most people are receptive and even if they disagree, none are yet to get hostile like yourself hiding behind your pseudonym.
        
        All part of the free flown of ideas MM – deal with it like an adult.
        
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxaJxDmWgAEgLqL.jpg
        
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        November 18, 2016 11:27am
      - mikenmild
        
        Are you critical of pseudonyms, EAD?
        
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        November 18, 2016 11:29am
      - EAD
        
        Deal with it MM,
        
        I’ll keep promoting my views om WWII until the day I die. Why?
        
        Because World War II and everything related to Nazis and Jews is Ground Zero, – the foundation upon which our new moral framework has been built. The predicament the West finds itself in is built on the sacred 6,000,000 who were sacrificed on the alter of European racism and hate in order that Europe could be reborn, a Europe which would become a shining beacon of humanitarian ideals and anti-racism.
        
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e59d02ef02dd103326d0e2d05abedcc264639d82e2269c0b6dac891abd266da6.jpg
        
        Fair to say I don’t like this New World Order….
        
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  - starboard
    
    Dullard.
    
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    November 18, 2016 11:22am
    - mikenmild
      
      Where’s dirty harry?
      
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      November 18, 2016 11:27am
      - starboard
        
        Wheres that dirty sanchez…
        
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        November 18, 2016 12:39pm
      - itstricky
        
        Where’s my concrete example of a free pass, starboard?
        
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        November 18, 2016 5:16pm
mandk

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/king-abdullah-visit-new-zealand

It must be tough leading a country when you know that it would be best to ally closely with Israel, but most of your subjects and your paymasters in the Arab world would like to wipe Israel off the map and drive all Jews into exile (the ones that aren’t slaughtered, that is).
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November 18, 2016 9:54am
stephieboy

Another who Predicts Trump will be impeached or step down within his first year , Michael Moore . Even back in September he gave five reasons why he thought Trump would win based on meeting up with Blue Collar workers in Michigan ( his home state ) ,

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/11/12/michael-moore-trump-president-impeached-resign_n_12934970.html

Actually, I remain skeptical but was also in regard both Professor Lichtman and Michael Moore .
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November 18, 2016 9:56am
- Reid
  
  Fox News clip: Anti Trump Protest Riots The ORGANIZERS and the FUNDERS
  
  Who’s the organisers? Why Soros, Sharpton and Moore.
  
  Quelle surprise.
  
  Quelle horreur, if you’re stephie, once he works out what quelle horreur means.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47wQwhD4TM
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:01am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Oh good Stephie has resurfaced, I was worried he killed himself after Trump won.
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:49am
  - stephieboy
    
    Thank you for your abiding and deep concern but yes I’m alive and well .
    
    There is life after Trump and obviously you for that matter !
    
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    November 18, 2016 11:03am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      That’s a pity.
      
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      November 18, 2016 11:37am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      There is no life after me stephie. I’m final like Chuck Norris.
      
      Speaking of which. I’m surprised you are surprised Trump won.
      
      He was, after all endorsed by Chuck Norris.
      
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      November 18, 2016 12:54pm
- Manolo
  
  Are you coping, dear stephieboy? Have you spoken to your imam and opened up with him?
  
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  November 18, 2016 5:19pm
Reid

For anyone who hasn’t yet worked out quite how ISIS was so remarkably successful at least till Russia got involved, here’s yet another clue…

ISIS document discovered ordering jihadist fighters to NOT attack US aircraft flying over Mosul

http://theduran.com/isis-document-discovered-ordering-jihadist-fighters-to-not-attack-us-aircraft-flying-over-mosul/
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November 18, 2016 9:58am
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , this says it all,
  
  “Sputnik’s Arabic bureau found documents that detail a decree by Daesh (ISIL/ISIS) leaders which instructs fighters not to attack US-led coalition aircraft operating over Mosul and the surrounding area.”
  
  Sputnik “news”
  
  DUH !
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:09am
mikenmild

Kane Williamson wins a toss! NZ to bowl first.
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November 18, 2016 10:04am
Happychappy

Time to bring back castration for these kiddy fiddlers after a eleven year old boy was sexually assaulted for four hours in West Auckland yesterday.
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November 18, 2016 10:08am
- holysheet
  
  Castration from the neck, you mean.
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:35am
cha

President elect Trump appears to be using an insecure private phone system.
FBI investigation, now!.

On Thursday, it emerged Australia, which has a longstanding diplomatic and military alliance with the US, was only able to get through to Trump because the prime minister cold-called him on his personal mobile phone, through a number provided by champion Australian golfer Greg Norman.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/trump-jumps-shark?
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November 18, 2016 10:12am
- rangitoto
  
  Trump holds no US government position at this point.
  
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  November 18, 2016 10:43am
Chuck Bird

FYI

Nats choose iwi over Kiwi in bungled RMA deal

The anti-separatist group Hobson’s Pledge today advertised in the New Zealand Herald to draw attention to a bungled deal between the National Party and the Maori Party to get a reformed Resource Management Act through Parliament.

For eight years, the Government has been trying to reform the Resource Management Act to reduce red tape, delay, and the escalating costs of development, spokesperson Casey Costello said today.

To get anything through Parliament, the John Key-led Government is relying on the support of the separatist Maori Party to get a slim majority of just a single vote, said Ms Costello, who is joint spokesperson along with former National Party leader Don Brash.

In return, the Maori Party required the inclusion of iwi participation clauses, which would require local government to invite local tribal trusts into co-governance arrangements, creating an under-the-radar constitutional change, Ms Costello said.

The anti-separatist New Zealand First Party repeatedly offered 12 votes to secure significant RMA reform so long as reform was based upon the principle of one law for all. But National has chosen iwi over Kiwi.

Ms Costello, an Auckland business manager who also works in property development, said that this extra level of consultation would increase red tape, delays, and cost, which is precisely the opposite of what the reforms set out to do.

“At a time where housing is such a significant issue, it defies logic to implement an additional complexity and consultation that will result in no benefit to any New Zealander including Maori,” Ms Costello said.

Co-governance deals with a handful of tribal trusts entrench an unelected few with race-based power over everyone else, Ms Costello said.

Hobson’s Pledge Trust
http://www.hobsonspledge.nz/
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November 18, 2016 10:15am
- Jack5
  
  Let’s hope, Chuck Bird, that a party vote for National does not come down to being a party vote for the 2 per cent Maori Party.
  
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  November 18, 2016 1:44pm
Manolo

It would be incredible:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/17/romney-and-trump-to-discuss-secretary-of-state-position-nbc-source-says.html

Former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney will meet with Donald Trump this weekend to discuss the secretary of state position, a source close to the president-elect with direct knowledge of his thinking told NBC News.
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November 18, 2016 10:39am
- mikenmild
  
  That’d certainly send a message about draining the swamp!
  
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  November 18, 2016 11:03am
jonar

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yrxyu9/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-president-elect-trump-s-prospective-administration-of-deplorables

This is going to be a hilarious presidency. Check out Mitch McConnell at 7:30 when he’s asked about the appointment of Bannon.
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November 18, 2016 10:46am
jonar

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11750605

Facebook fake-news writer: ‘I think Donald Trump is in the White House because of me’

Q: You mentioned Trump, and you’ve probably heard the argument, or the concern, that fake news somehow helped him get elected. What do you make of that?

A: My sites were picked up by Trump supporters all the time. I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His followers don’t fact-check anything – they’ll post everything, believe anything. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3,500 as fact. Like, I made that up. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist.

Q: Why? I mean – why would you even write that?

A: Just ’cause his supporters were under the belief that people were getting paid to protest at their rallies, and that’s just insane. I’ve gone to Trump protests – trust me, no one needs to get paid to protest Trump. I just wanted to make fun of that insane belief, but it took off. They actually believed it.

I thought they’d fact-check it, and it’d make them look worse. I mean that’s how this always works: Someone posts something I write, then they find out it’s false, then they look like idiots. But Trump supporters – they just keep running with it! They never fact-check anything! Now he’s in the White House. Looking back, instead of hurting the campaign, I think I helped it. And that feels (bad).
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November 18, 2016 11:10am
- Manolo
  
  Humility personified, a left-wing personality trait.
  
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  November 18, 2016 11:17am
- stephieboy
  
  Did Facebook Fake News Win Election For Trump? 5 Fast Facts You Need To Know
  
  Can Donald Trump thank a flood of fake news stories shared on Facebook this year for his shock presidential election victory? While historians and political scientists will be arguing for years over what really led to Trump’s victory, media critics are now pinning at least some of the responsibility on an unprecedented number of fabricated, fudged or misleading “news” stories online that were shared widely via Facebook, as well as other social media outlets.
  
  An article in New York Magazine last week, bluntly titled, “Donald Trump Won Because of Facebook,” made the case that, “the most obvious way in which Facebook enabled a Trump victory has been its inability (or refusal) to address the problem of hoax or fake news.”
  
  An investigation by BuzzFeed News published less than a week prior to the election traced about 100 political “news” sites trafficking in fake stories — most of them extremely pro-Trump — to a single small town in the Balkan state of Macedonia, where groups of college students and teenagers discovered they could rake in big bucks by generating phony “news” stories favorable to Trump or damaging to Hillary Clinton, and sharing them on Facebook where they would quickly go viral.
  
  What are these fake news stories, where do they come from and did they help to win the election for Trump?
  
  Here’s what you need to know.
  
  1. Facebook is One of America’s Top News Sources
  
  Facebook fake news, Google fake news, did fake news decide election, Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump win election
  Nearly two-thirds of Americans use Facebook and other social media for their news. (Getty)….
  
  etc, etc, etc
  
  http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/fake-news-facebook-google-donald-trump-bernie-sanders-wins-election/
  
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  November 18, 2016 11:22am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    You know that this has already been debunked? They included sites like the Onion for fucks sake in that list.
    Jay Dyer of https://jaysanalysis.com/ does a quick video on youtube that points out the obvious a lot better than me.
    
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    November 18, 2016 1:05pm
    - Manolo
      
      stephieboy believes than only Facebook and the Quran tell the truth.
      
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      November 18, 2016 1:08pm
      - holysheet
        
        Id believe facebook over the fairybook any day
        
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        November 18, 2016 5:36pm
- mikenmild
  
  It’s post-truth politics.
  Objective reality is vastly overrated.
  
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  November 18, 2016 11:24am
  - mandk
    
    So true.
    That’s why I believe stories about the increasing number of children living in poverty can’t possibly be correct.
    I mean, everyone knows that John Key and his rich mates eat far too many babies for this to have happened.
    
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    November 18, 2016 11:54am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Objective reality is vastly overrated.
    
    Eh?? Then why do we come here?
    
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    November 18, 2016 3:38pm
Manolo

A couple of Muslim lovers:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-pass-torch-merkel-farewell-visit-054044174.html

US President Barack Obama paid a farewell visit on Thursday to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, seen by some as the new standard bearer of liberal democracy since the election of Donald Trump.
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November 18, 2016 11:22am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, head still spinning after this Muslim woman voted for Trump ?
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/13/muslim-immigrant-explains-why-voted-for-trump.html
  
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  November 18, 2016 11:28am
  - Manolo
    
    Not at all. It goes to show there are people capable of thinking by themselves among your brethren.
    
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    November 18, 2016 11:34am
starboard

Anyone who is concerned about NZ’s slide into apartheid should join up.

http://www.hobsonspledge.nz/
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November 18, 2016 11:28am
- jonar
  
  Has the National Party got some legislation in line to classify citizens into racial groups and then force them into segregated neighbourhoods?
  
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  November 18, 2016 11:38am
- Morrissey
  
  Could you explain what you mean by that, starboard?
  
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  November 18, 2016 11:48am
  - starboard
    
    Get stuffed morrissey.
    
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    November 18, 2016 12:37pm
    - stephieboy
      
      starboard , a bit of the reptilian shapeshift lizard getting to you ?
      
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      November 18, 2016 1:51pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Thought not.
      
      http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors36/tmb/kath-bright-quote-he-hasnt-got-a-clue.jpg
      
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      November 18, 2016 3:23pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Don’t worry Morrissey they have a IQ Test so you won’t qualify
    
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    November 18, 2016 1:01pm
    - Gabby
      
      Well done on spelling IQ. Did you need to sound it out?
      
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      November 18, 2016 1:50pm
    - Morrissey
      
      http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d6/d6ed2c3fc2475f5def020f6fc6205b6558a2259d3b05c21a2db8e1d2850dbed6.jpg
      
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      November 18, 2016 3:25pm
  - sam green
    
    I think that was a “no”.
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:33pm
Morrissey

Fat slug under pressure, reflexively spews abuse as usual….

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/11/poor-little-nicky-upset/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUdYgBhF9-w
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November 18, 2016 11:34am
- rangitoto
  
  Hagar’s phone calls to and from Greebore politicians and foreign criminals would be much more interesting.
  
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  November 18, 2016 12:08pm
Manolo

What will it happen when in a future decade the delicate snowflakes gain political power?
What is the advice of our resident multiculturalist and Clinton fan?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/17/coddling-campus-crybabies-students-take-up-toddler-therapy-after-trump-win.html

Around the nation, students are turning to the tools of toddlers as a bizarre form of therapy in the wake of Donald Trump’s election last week.

Colleges and universities are encouraging students to cry, cuddle with puppies and sip hot chocolate to soothe their fragile psyches, an approach some critics say would be funny if it weren’t so alarming.
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November 18, 2016 11:37am
Maggy Wassilieff

Hastings District Council being charged for the Gastro-outbreak

http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/86609714/charges-laid-over-havelock-north-gastro-outbreak
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November 18, 2016 12:43pm
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Yeah good. It was always funny to me when the official line was – “Well we poisoned 5000 people but no one is responsible, lets not dig too deep and lets not point fingers.”
  
  If I had explosive diarrhea along with the whole town, I would be pointing fingers as soon as i got out of the outhouse.
  
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  November 18, 2016 12:58pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Mayor Yule is doing all he can to distract from this action……
    
    oh, let’s wait until the Government inquiry comes to a conclusion..
    
    But if the Regional Council hadn’t found a breach in its resource conditions, would they have laid charges?
    
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    November 18, 2016 1:09pm
All_on_Red

I see some of the morons in the Press and the other morons who are their useful idiots are having a go at Trump for apparently not being ready with his Cabinet appointments.
Trump obviously has his Transition team working on this now .
But given the attacks it was interesting to see these comments from David Axelrod, ex Strategic Advisor to Obama.
“We hadn’t made any major appointments at this point in 2008. I don’t remember being criticized for it.”
David Axelrod

Nice to see some objective comment.
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November 18, 2016 12:59pm
starboard

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86601779/boy-11-abducted-and-sexually-assaulted-in-west-auckland.

The offender wont be white. We can tell this due to the lack of info about him being given out. Watch this space.
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November 18, 2016 1:02pm
- Gabby
  
  I don’t know why you’d suggest a white offender would have killed the victim.
  
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  November 18, 2016 1:46pm
- stephieboy
  
  starboard , don’t worry this revolting pedophile eventually had his name suppression order lifted and just happened to be a white man,
  
  http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11687401
  
  Tough luck !
  
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  November 18, 2016 2:03pm
  - starboard
    
    Whats that got to do with anything you foolish little imbecile. The police will only say they are looking for a man driving a grey van. PC has their balls tied in knots. Anywhere else in the world they would be giving a full description of the filth, including ethnicity so it can be tracked and cornered like the animal it is. So, Im safe in assuming we are looking for a brown person in a piece of shit unregistered and unwarranted grey van. That will make it easier..oh, and it is Ranui after all.
    
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    November 18, 2016 3:29pm
    - holysheet
      
      Most likely a bongo van, so popular with lowlife.
      
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      November 18, 2016 3:38pm
      - starboard
        
        lol, a Bongo Brawny..even worse..
        
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        November 18, 2016 3:55pm
    - itstricky
      
      PC has their balls tied in knots. Anywhere else in the world they would be giving a full description of the filth, </
      
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      November 18, 2016 5:29pm
      - itstricky
        
        The Herald article makes it pretty clear that, at that time, the boy was the only one to have seen the offender and that he (the boy) had not yet been interviewed. Hence the focus on the van and not the offender’s description.
        
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        November 18, 2016 5:33pm
  - starboard
    
    Hows this for sick Steffybots..and the most foul and disgusting thing is that you condone this filth through your love of Islam. You sick fuck.
    From ” Exposing Islam ”
    
    “Paedophilia and rape: rife and accepted within islam”
    Paedophilia and rape are common and accepted practices within the program of islam, displaying its true, life hating nature. The so-called “prophet” Muhammad (who is in fact a fictitious character) was said to have taken a six year old girl as his wife, forcing her into full intercourse at the young age of nine. He was supposed to have been well into his fifties at the time, and it is these teachings that have made it acceptable in muslim communities for men to marry and have intercourse with exceptionally young girls.
    
    Considering the fact that a child this young does not experience sexual desire and will not consent willingly to the intercourse (there have been cases where the young girl screams and resits until the man beats her into submission), it can be considered as rape, whether there is a certificate of marriage or not. Then, the question of what sane, self-respecting, decent individual would want to have intercourse with a little child and be aroused at the prospect has to be asked. This most certainly does not shine a very positive light upon islams fictitious “prophet” from the start, nor upon islam itself.
    “A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However,
    he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia).
    
    Nice one stiffybot..how do you sleep at night.
    
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    November 18, 2016 5:05pm
    - Morrissey
      
      These foul and disgusting men are Christians, mainly. You condemn them, I take it?…
      
      http://morallowground.com/2012/04/18/us-82nd-airborne-soldiers-posed-for-photos-with-body-parts-of-dead-afghan-resistance-fighters/
      
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      November 18, 2016 5:44pm
      - starboard
        
        Yeah but I’m sure, no positive they don’t have anal intercourse with babies. Fuck off back to the strandard you dreg.
        
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        November 18, 2016 5:51pm
Manolo

Clooney’s missus speaks:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3947178/Amal-Clooney-brands-Trump-proposals-state-sponsored-torture-religious-tests-immigrants-violations-international-human-rights-law.html
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November 18, 2016 1:26pm
- holysheet
  
  Fuck international human rights laws. USA needs to spend some time and money getting their own shit together without the rest of the world having any say in what and how they do it. Stopping the huge waste of money to global warming grievance industry will go a long way towards this.
  
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  November 18, 2016 3:42pm
Manolo

The downfall of the Clinton mafia:
http://nypost.com/2016/11/17/how-mitt-romneys-campaign-manager-took-down-hillary/

The Clinton family foundation turned out to be a liability for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. But it wasn’t foreordained. Here’s how it happened.
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November 18, 2016 1:38pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Manolo, no doubt through sheer coincidence, the outlook for the river of dirty money is not good.
  
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  November 18, 2016 4:20pm
Jack5

Griff should not get complacent.

Work is continuing on sobriety tests for marijuana users. Hard, but they will crack the problem, Griff.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/17/marijuana-sobriety-tests-hard-to-make
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November 18, 2016 1:41pm
- holysheet
  
  They should divert some of the money they are wasting on global warming and use it to fix this problem of non sober drivers under the influence of mary-jane, Griff’s imaginary girl friend.
  
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  November 18, 2016 3:37pm
Jack5

India’s great banknote squeeze is causing mayhem as the country cracks down on its huge black economy.

India’s withdrawing from circulation more than 23 billion of its higher value banknotes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-15/india-s-scramble-to-switch-23-billion-banknotes-quicktake-q-a
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November 18, 2016 2:10pm
Manolo

Welcoming undesirables and scum. The Obama administration does its worst to ruin the country:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IMMIGRANTS_RELEASED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-17-17-52-39

A surge in border crossings and a lack of immigration jail space have prompted the federal government to start releasing Haitian immigrants who have been entering the country in large numbers in recent months, backtracking on a pledge to jail the migrants.
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November 18, 2016 2:15pm
Jack5

We need the expertise of our poster, Odakyu-sen, to spell out the nuances of the comments of the Japanese Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, after meeting President-elect Trump.

He is reported as describing Trump as a “trustworthy leader”.

What might this mean in the hierarchy of Japanese compliments, Odakyu-sen?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/abe-heads-into-first-meeting-with-japan-bashing-donald-trump
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November 18, 2016 2:18pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Hello Jack5,
  
  I checked http://www.asahi.com (the Asahi Shimbun newspaper site) Abe used the phrase “信頼できる指導者だと確信した” in referring to Trump. The nuance is that Abe made up his mind then and there that Trump is a “leader that he (Abe) can trust.” (Note: 信頼できる carries a lot of weight in Japanese culture.)
  So far, so good.
  Mind you. That’s just the kind of thing that a Japanese politician would say, as Abe knows that it is important for him to get off on the right foot with Trump.
  Now, if Trump can hit it off with the Chinese leaders, then military-industrial complexes around the world will really start to worry. (Something about beating swords into ploughshares?)
  
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  November 18, 2016 4:24pm
  - Reid
    
    Yes. Abe’s quite the warmonger isn’t he O-s.
    
    Runs in his family.
    
    He’s also a globalist puppet who was perfectly suited to the Clinton style, so it will be interesting to see how it works out with the US and Trump. I don’t suspect anything will change, that’s what I mean.
    
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    November 18, 2016 5:32pm
    - Reid
      
      You may be interested in this O-s:
      
      http://journal-neo.org/2016/11/15/donald-trump-and-the-fate-of-the-u-s-japanese-alliance/
      
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      November 18, 2016 6:38pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Abe is a very dangerous and sinister politician. A year after the Fukushima disaster he became P.M. for the second time, and moved quickly to terrorize into silence Japanese scientists who had questioned the wisdom of nuclear power in Japan.
    
    Abe makes Trump seem like a reasonable, thoughtful, nice guy.
    
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    November 18, 2016 5:59pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Morriessy , could you link that ? In the meantime dealing with other Fukushima conspiracies and the critical thinking that is essential to disarm them as absolute nonsense ( Mossad / CIA quake machines , HAARP etc )
      
      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/1/11/1357091/-The-Fukushima-Disaster-and-Conspiracy-Theories-Ad-Hoc-Review-of-American-Conspiracy-Theories
      
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      November 18, 2016 6:30pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      And Morris Dancer makes Trump seem like the saviour of the world.
      
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      November 18, 2016 8:21pm
Keeping Stock

Congratulations on becoming a father DPF. You have no idea just how different your life is about to become, and how little everything going in in the beltway matters when little Benjamin looks up at you. All the best to you all.
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November 18, 2016 2:49pm
- Manolo
  
  Warmest congratulations!
  The baby, if a boy, should be christened Donald. 😀
  
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  November 18, 2016 3:02pm
Maggy Wassilieff

oh,oh, just had an earthquake here in Gizzy..

First one we’ve felt for a few months.
(3.9, 20km deep, 15km N-E of city)
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November 18, 2016 4:04pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Maggy:
  
  Any thoughts on this Geonet data?
  
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  November 18, 2016 6:08pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yeeks,
    
    I hadn’t been paying attention to this neck of the woods…
    
    The experts reckon that there is a long, slow earthquake happening just off the coast here.
    Hobitts are investigating
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/307118/'silent'-quake-under-way-off-gisborne
    
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    November 18, 2016 9:43pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Maggy:
      
      Hobitts are investigating
      
      I thought you meant Hobbits but, having read your linked article, I see there’s a group of scientists who’ve decided to call themselves HOBITTS (Hikurangi Ocean Bottom Investigation of Tremor and Slow Slip).
      
      How very dry and clinical…
      
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      November 18, 2016 9:58pm
Nostradamus

Last night Scott Chris declared that his love interest in Kiwiblog (and Starboard) is officially over:

Hmm, well there you go. My last comment on Kiwiblog; excellent forum conducted by an enlightened if somewhat misguided David Farrar. Thank you and fuck you all respectively. Do your best.

I must say “Thank you and fuck you all” is a memorable way to sign-off!
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November 18, 2016 5:05pm
- Reid
  
  Sad about that, I quite liked him.
  
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  November 18, 2016 5:15pm
- Manolo
  
  Glad to see the back of him!
  
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  November 18, 2016 5:15pm
- starboard
  
  Good riddance to the raving queer, no glory hole is safe…
  
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  November 18, 2016 5:18pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Lover spurned aye SB, you’ll be right petal.
    
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    November 18, 2016 5:50pm
- thedavincimode
  
  I saw this rather nondescript cameo appearance. It didn’t quite reconcile with the “fuck you Farrar I’m going for good” theatrics of a couple of weeks ago. Presumably he lurched back to the liquor cabinet feeling much better about himself and I’m sure we all look forward to the next time Scwottie trounces off for good in a huff.
  
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  November 18, 2016 7:44pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Generally known as LANCB (leaving and never coming back) or a ‘flounce’ if particularly theatrical.
    Usually guarantees a return…
    
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    November 18, 2016 7:50pm
  - tom hunter
    
    Yep. I had no problems engaging with Scott, but …
    
    A week or so ago, in the it doesn’t really matter if Trump or Clinton is elected, he told mikenmild to get fucked as often as he told me.
    
    The boy has problems, no question.
    
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    November 18, 2016 7:51pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I tried to blot it out, but it really did get to me…
      
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      November 18, 2016 7:54pm
      - starboard
        
        That’s because you are soft mm..soft. Living at home with Mum at your age will do that to you.
        
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        November 18, 2016 7:56pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Still a bit sad and lonely in the pensioner flat, starboard? $12.50 dinner special at the Woolston RSA again? Soon be dark enough to head to Hagley Park though, so you’ve always got your hobby.
        
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        November 18, 2016 8:01pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        I think we can safe prove MM doesnt live at home with Mum, she would never allow him to spend this much time on KB
        
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        November 18, 2016 8:12pm
      - starboard
        
        12 buck fifty dinner special eh? I’ll give it a nudge next time I’m up there.
        
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        November 18, 2016 8:47pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      I somehow feel responsible Tom. If I’d been here I could have appealed for calm and milky wouldn’t have been traumatised.
      
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      November 18, 2016 8:22pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Tom Hunter is referring to this thread – A Trump win is not the end of the world – which seemed to be the tipping point for Scott Chris.
      
      Some highlights:
      
      [Scott Chris to Liam Hehir in response to the thread title]
      Of course it isn’t you twit. But it’s an enormous step in the wrong direction. … So fuck you Liam Hehir.
      
      [Scott Chris to Mikenmild]
      Fuck off Mike.
      
      [Scott Chris to Tom Hunter]
      And speaking of whom, Tom Hunter, I number you as among the demented fools who think Hillary Clinton is evil personified simply because she followed some bad advice with regard to her personal email server.
      
      [Scott Chris to Mikenmild – for the second time]
      Fuck off Mike.
      
      [Scott Chris to Mikenmild]
      No, hang on, fuck you Mike, it is a false dichotomy.
      
      [Scott Chris to Mikenmild]
      It’s very simple, you just cut in front of me in your Morris Minor without signaling and I’m giving you the fingers.
      Learn to drive you twat.
      
      [Mikenmild to Scott Chris]
      Fuck you too. Gosh, that felt good.
      
      And, let’s not forget, Scott Chris has (with this comment and this comment) outed himself as an angry driver from Auckland!
      
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      November 18, 2016 8:34pm
      - mikenmild
        
        It definitely was a false dichotomy, BTW…
        
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        November 18, 2016 8:39pm
      - starboard
        
        last time I take my car to be groomed by him
        
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        November 18, 2016 8:41pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        geez … starboard you should have stopped teasing the poor petal and given him the night he was gagging for, looks like the rejection, stress and sexual frustration was all too much
        
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        November 18, 2016 8:41pm
Nostradamus

An eye-catching headline:

Dunedin’s controversial ‘black penis’ may head to Christchurch

Maybe they could stick it in Hagley Park?
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November 18, 2016 5:10pm
- Reid
  
  There’s probably a massive latent demand for black penis garden statues amongst the Gween and Labour urban housewives, I’d imagine.
  
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  November 18, 2016 5:51pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Someone must have sold plenty of thigh high boots with a double EE width to pay for that….
  
  Wonder if the Adams apple puts him off when he lets his eyes wander up the stockings of his clients
  
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  November 18, 2016 5:58pm
- thedavincimode
  
  We need input from dad4violence on this one nostra.
  
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  November 18, 2016 7:46pm
  - nasska
    
    The last time we heard about “black penises” in Christchurch was when an innocent man was falsely imprisoned via the choreographed efforts of the vile sisterhood.
    
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    November 18, 2016 8:00pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I think you might find that was down to a fundie nutcase detective and some good old fashioned homophobia. Remember the female creche workers were charged too.
      
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      November 18, 2016 8:03pm
      - nasska
        
        Yep. Overall, I tend to favour the theories advanced by Laudafinem.
        
        But the jury , individually & collectively, deserved to be taken out the back & sodomised themselves for not exercising common sense. Anyone who has brought up kids would see that the evidence was a load of old rope.
        
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        November 18, 2016 8:16pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I must admit I did a bit of censoring a couple of nights ago when I listed some un-PC plants…..
  but as we are all adults here …..
  
  perhaps you can cope with a blackman’s willy
  https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7008/6496649845_cc4983b8c8_z.jpg
  (Rhodochiton atrosanguineum)
  
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  November 18, 2016 9:29pm
Manolo

stephieboy’s mates looking for an opportunity to get in:
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/11/17/exclusive-three-pakistani-men-apprehended-u-s-border/
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November 18, 2016 5:31pm
Manolo

The old witch faces competition:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-11-17/pelosi-to-face-little-known-challenger-as-democrats-rue-election

Representative Tim Ryan, a little-known Democrat from Ohio, said Thursday he’ll challenge Nancy Pelosi to lead a party that’s reeling from a disappointing Election Day.
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November 18, 2016 5:39pm
Morrissey

BLOCKING PUBLICATION OF AFGHANISTAN ATROCITY PHOTOS
Washington’s real concerns over the Afghanistan atrocity photos
by BILL VAN AUCKEN, Global Research, April 20, 2012

The images of young American paratroopers playing and posing with dismembered Afghan corpses provide a revolting but accurate reflection of a decade-old war and the demoralizing impact it has had upon the US military.

The Pentagon and the Obama administration exerted intense pressure to block the Los Angeles Times’ publication of the photographs. Just two of 18 photographs given to the Times made it into print. Taken in 2010, one depicts a smirking soldier, a member of the 82nd Airborne Division’s 4th Brigade Combat Team, posing with the hand of a dead Afghan placed on his shoulder. ….

Read more…
http://www.globalresearch.ca/blocking-publication-of-afghanistan-atrocity-photos/30427
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November 18, 2016 5:52pm
- Reid
  
  Yes Morrisey.
  
  When will we ever learn.
  
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  November 18, 2016 6:26pm
- stephieboy
  
  Morrissey , untrue ! The said photos were widely disseminated in the US media including the LA Times,
  
  https://www.wired.com/2012/04/afghan-corpses/
  
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  November 18, 2016 6:59pm
- Longknives
  
  How is killing a vicious enemy an ‘Atrocity’?
  *We are the good guys ..remember?? *This is a war and we are fighting for Gay Rights, Women’s Rights etc etc
  
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  November 18, 2016 7:52pm
  - Longknives
    
    And by “We” I mean Western Civilisation fighting the vile Death Cult of Islam..
    
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    November 18, 2016 7:53pm
    - mikenmild
      
      True. Many GIs in the Pacific collected Japanese ears, so that was obviously okay.
      What’s a minor war crime as long as the bad guys are the victims.
      
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      November 18, 2016 7:57pm
Inandout

Oh dear, fake news sites may have swung the election to Trump..well that is what Prime News is pushing. The MSM will keep up the pressure because Hillary should have won the race, really she should have.
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November 18, 2016 5:58pm
Reid

BUSTED! Craigslist Ad Exposes Paid Anti-Trump Protesters Being Recruited for STAGED Event

http://369news.net/craigslist-ad-exposes-paid-anti-trump-protesters-recruited-staged-event/

Why hasn’t Soros already got an arrest-on-sight Interpol Alert out for him?
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November 18, 2016 6:07pm
- Ross12
  
  Reid
  
  This video on Soros is worth a watch. Obviously produced by a religious group with their views coming through but the basic picture they present is very interesting
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeM_l5mkyYc
  
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  November 18, 2016 6:28pm
Reid

Donald Trump’s unlikely victory created the opportunity to finally break with the orthodoxy of Washington’s neocon/liberal-hawk foreign policy, but can Trump find enough fresh thinkers to do the job.

Donald Trump must decide – and decide quickly – whether he wants to be a great U.S. President or a robo-signature machine affixing his name to whatever legislation comes from congressional Republicans and a nodding figurehead acquiescing to more neoconservative foreign policy adventures.

Or, to put it in a vernacular that Trump might use, does he want to be “Paul Ryan’s bitch” on domestic policies? And does he want to surrender his foreign policy to the “wise guys” of Washington’s neocon establishment?

Donald Trump speaking with supporters in Phoenix, Arizona. June 18, 2016. (Photo by Gage Skidmore)
Donald Trump speaking with supporters in Phoenix, Arizona. June 18, 2016. (Photo by Gage Skidmore)
Trump’s problem is that he has few fully developed ideas about how to proceed in a presidency that even many of his close followers did not expect would happen. Plus, over the past few decades, the neocons and their liberal-hawk sidekicks have marginalized almost every dissenting expert, including old-line “realists” who once were important figures.

So, the bench of “confirmable” experts who have dissented on neocon/liberal-hawk policies is very thin…

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/11/15/trumps-slim-chance-for-greatness/
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November 18, 2016 6:18pm
Longknives

The Herald have lost the plot over Trump’s popularity-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11747319

This was possibly the poorest written piece I’ve ever seen in a mainstream newspaper!
Michelle Obama for President?? Jesus that vile woman is even more despised than Hilary…
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November 18, 2016 6:52pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I saw a brilliant cartoon of Michelle.
  She was holding a sign which read
  “An immigrant has just taken my job.”
  
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  November 18, 2016 9:35pm
BeeSting

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3945290/ISIS-propaganda-video-encourages-homegrown-terror-attacks-Australia-lists-Melbourne-Airport-St-Paul-s-Cathedral-targets.html
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