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Paulus Gnome

Lizzie Marvelly to run for the Labour Party?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11749283

You couldn’t make this shit up!

Well, it goes to show that the sad and the desperate will do anything to attract attention and Lizzie Marveless is not any better!
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November 17, 2016 8:01am
- sooty
  
  Poor Jacinda, she’s got a problem. A singer trumps a fish and chip shop worker!
  
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  November 17, 2016 9:48am
- jonar
  
  “But this is just a rumour – no truth to it,” she said.
  
  Rumours often fall into the category of made up things.
  
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  November 17, 2016 10:13am
  - Kimbo
    
    …or balloons that politicians float to test the winds, yet allow them plausible deniability.
    
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    November 17, 2016 10:18am
- RRM
  
  Lizzie Know-It-All would be an excellent fit with the labour Party and its values. I thoroughly endorse her.
  
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  November 17, 2016 11:35am
- howitis
  
  High points here.
  A Maori and a Wimin.
  This all helps with quota.
  Do we know her gender bias ?
  Does she have club foot or other handicap?
  This is like getting points on an immigration application 🙂
  
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  November 17, 2016 12:34pm
  - Paulus
    
    I believe that she is also a member of the late Howard Morrison whanau – so she must have influence.
    
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    November 17, 2016 1:44pm
oldpark

Lest we forget? there are 37 days to Christmas.
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November 17, 2016 8:02am
- waikatogirl
  
  Jingle bells, and good will to all (men).
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  November 17, 2016 8:10am
  - holysheet
    
    What about all the others, WG. Women, Gays, lessies,trannies etc don’t want to be lumped in as men these days.
    You cannot be so callous..
    
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    November 17, 2016 8:33am
    - waikatogirl
      
      holysheet, a limp attemp at trolling, as you have previously made your thoughts on many issues transparent.
      Not a very good attempt ?
      
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      November 17, 2016 8:47am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Limp is as limp does lol. 😉
        
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        November 17, 2016 4:51pm
Paulus Gnome

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke.

Labour MP Trevor Mallard ‘grumpy’ after car smashed by Parliament security system

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11749437

‘He was “grumpy” about being the bollards’ latest prey. His situation was not eased by the location of the incident – in full view of the Parliamentary Press Gallery.

The noise of the collision had “attracted predators from not very far away”, he said.’

Today’s word is schadenfreude brought to you by the letter S; also used in shithead and skewered, words that can be used to describe the ‘victim’ and his situation.

In breaking news; the bollard was unharmed.
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November 17, 2016 8:02am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I suspect that being stuck by Parliament’s new bollards will have attracted a new name; victims can now claim to have been Mallarded 😀
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:12am
  - G152
    
    He should have ‘ducked’
    
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    November 17, 2016 8:36am
- cmm
  
  Just 1 metre forward and he’d have a smile on his face.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:18am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Did y’all notice the car? A shitty old mondeo.
  
  Sorry but that speaks volumes about his lack of talent and money management.
  
  It is a car with zero redeeming features,
  Fuel efficient – no
  Green – no
  Drivability – zero
  Cool factor – zero
  Red- yes.
  
  A mans car says so much about him and Trev and his car are well suited.
  
  ZERO redeeeming features.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:24am
  - Lance
    
    You mean like this?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs
    
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    November 17, 2016 10:33am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Exactly… that is my anthem and a fair description of my personality and lifestyle
      
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      November 17, 2016 11:43am
      - Lance
        
        Complete with whale skin hubcaps!
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:14pm
- virtualmark
  
  Look I’m no Labour supporter. But this is a crap thing to have happen to you. Not everything needs to be tribal politics. And if it is then you’re the sort of person who needs to get out more.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:28am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Agreed. To be fair, imagine the comments be if he were driving an BMW M5 or Jag XKR.
    
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    November 17, 2016 8:55am
    - sooty
      
      Just as well it never came thru the floorboards, or he would be a bigger pain in the arse!
      
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      November 17, 2016 9:53am
- Viking2
  
  As I posted earlier this morning when you lazy sods were still on your first coffee.
  
  Trev is colour blind. Yep he can’t tell the difference between RED and Green.
  
  Just like the rest of us. Seems that they are both the same.
  
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  November 17, 2016 9:31am
Left Right and Centre

>> general respect for the PM . . .
Tell me – what time do you have to roll out of bed to be ready to appear on Paul Henry for 6:40am ?

John – you’re just so good it hurts my brain . . .
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November 17, 2016 8:07am
Happychappy

I wonder whether Trevor Mallard was commenting on Annette’s smart text about John Key on Kiwiblog yesterday when his red Mondeo got pronged by the bollards on the way out of Parliament.Karma is a funny thing so maybe he will think about the sly comments he makes about John Key.
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November 17, 2016 8:10am
Odakyu-sen

This video of the road towards Kaikoura (filmed from a road vehicle) gives you some idea of just how many damaged sections of roadway there are, and how the repairs will take a couple of years and cost billions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqGPvmjxBNg
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November 17, 2016 8:18am
- mandk
  
  Surely, you must know some Japanese highway engineers.
  They could pop down here and have the road fixed by the end of next week.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:25am
  - kowtow
    
    And they could be rewarded with a spot of whale hunting, sorry watching.
    
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    November 17, 2016 8:27am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    This looks like a job for …
    
    … NEXCO!
    
    http://www.e-nexco.co.jp/english/
    
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    November 17, 2016 8:30am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Get them on the phone before Fulton Hogan fuck the whole place up for 30 years
      
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      November 17, 2016 9:21am
  - Nermal
    
    Quality, Cheap, Fast.
    Pick any two, that’s all you’re ever going to get.
    
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    November 17, 2016 1:11pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  That’s amazing Oda. Thank you. First part was the southern end of the Hundalees out of Cheviot. Not sure how they got the vehicle over that metre-high barrier (or did they swap cars?)
  Looks like about 150km of highway is going to have to be completely rebuilt. That will take a long time irrespective of whether Fulton Hogan, the Japanese or the Chinese get the job.
  
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  November 17, 2016 9:38am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Ramps?
    
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    November 17, 2016 4:54pm
dime

i get an email from my brother this morning..

subject line

you got to be fucking kidding me.

so i open it..

“have a look at what this fucking loser drives”

its a pic of ztev with his mondeo lol
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November 17, 2016 8:29am
billmurray

Is it me or does John Key seem to be in full election mode, he’s everywhere including front page and top of TV commentary.
Early election in New year?.
Watch the Mt Roskill by-election for clues.
If the Nats give Labour a black eye or even a knockout, there will be a early election.
My opinion.
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November 17, 2016 8:31am
dime

oh no, “Lorde” has come out against trump!

thank god she didnt do that before the election or she may have swung it to hillary.
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November 17, 2016 8:34am
- Tarquin North
  
  Who is Lorde? She looks like a cross dressing Lizzie Marvelly impersonator.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:41am
  - dime
    
    i suspect shes someone who is going to need a shit ton of record label moneybehind her to have a decent follow up.
    
    12 songs. 12 writers, 12 producers etc
    
    otherwise shes a big deal in NZ for 20 years and thats about it
    
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    November 17, 2016 8:43am
    - sooty
      
      Or she could try and join the the other singer and the chip maker.
      
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      November 17, 2016 9:57am
    - sam green
      
      Envious much – she’s richer than you – haha.
      
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      November 17, 2016 12:21pm
      - sooty
        
        It least I’m not a precious snowflake! Take two teaspoons of cement and harden up.
        
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        November 17, 2016 12:29pm
      - sam green
        
        Aww sooty – using other people’s words always makes you feel better aye.
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:53pm
- waikatogirl
  
  met someone yesterday who has vowed to not listen or read any news for the next four years.
  
  Took me a second to realise the decision was in response to Trump winning the election.
  
  Stupid response!
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:51am
- howitis
  
  Lorde is really a 45 male Geologist from South Park who used this alter ego as an outlet
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cissy
  
  ….Stan, now confused, attempts to discuss gender identity with his father, but Randy misunderstands and instead reveals to Stan that he is Lorde. He explains that he started using the women’s bathroom at work out of convenience, pretending to be a woman, but eventually found the bathroom to be conducive to creating music….
  
  well, I laughed.
  
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  November 17, 2016 12:47pm
Manolo

Bad luck: Google was in tank and batting for the loser.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/googles-eric-schmidt-wore-staff-badge-hillary-clinton-election-party/

Eric Schmidt, the executive chairman of Google’s parent company, Alphabet, Inc., was spotted at Hillary Clinton’s “victory” party last Tuesday wearing a staff badge, according to a picture recently submitted to Politico.
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November 17, 2016 8:47am
- dime
  
  that dude has done some bad shit.
  
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  November 17, 2016 9:55am
mandk

Looks like the phantom down-ticker is up and about.

Go back to bed, you sad git.
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November 17, 2016 8:48am
Oskar

With all these Govt departments now without a home one option would be to consider the Karori campus of Victoria University – the one they bought for $10 and would like to sell for $20m.
Those buildings are apparently well in excess of 100% of earthquake compliance, there are many individual offices there and the seminar and lecture rooms could be turned into open plan offices. It also is on a good bus route and there is plenty of parking. And for the staff at lunchtime there are half a dozen tennis courts as well as the Karori pool. What Karori does not have is Lambton Quay shopping or many coffee shops.
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November 17, 2016 8:50am
- RalphT
  
  Aargh! No! The last thing Karori needs is public servants roaming the streets. The current arrangement of confining them to Lambton Quay works just fine.
  
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  November 17, 2016 12:02pm
EAD

Here is an Israeli journalist, in a Jewish chronicle explaining why Trump’s “radical supporters” (his words) view Jews as their “mortal enemies” (again his words)

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.752946?v=CCBB7C6F43C93C59DC831F85E94CEB7F

Most of the values, goals and policy objectives of the Trump administration, even if they turn out to be a paler and more palatable version of his campaign rhetoric, are diametrically opposed to those of most American Jews.

They support immigration, pluralism, multiculturalism, social reform, government intervention, separation of church and state, gay marriage, abortion rights and on and on.

It is easy to see, in fact, why so many of Trump’s radical supporters would view the Jews as their mortal enemies

Now, contrary to what Milkmaid & Tom Hunter would have you believe, I don’t “hate” Jews or view them as my mortal enemy.

My real mortal enemy is hypocrisy and chutzpah. My upbringing has taught me that to treat others as you’d wish to be treated.

If for example, you going to push 3rd world immigration into other countries, you should be prepared to do it yourself.

If you’re going to lecture Americans about their hatred for “building a wall”, you should have no wall yourself.

If you’re going to push abortion, push it in all countries.

If you’re going to push “pluralism”, you should be leading by example and having “pluralism” in your country.

Surely what is sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander?
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November 17, 2016 8:52am
- mikenmild
  
  And how would you like to treat the Jews, EAD?
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:54am
  - thedavincimode
    
    I expect about 4 hours at 140 degrees C milky.
    
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    November 17, 2016 9:13am
- EAD
  
  Milkmaid,
  
  Anything to say on what I actually said? You know, yet another referenced post where I show that the policies Jewish people push in goyim countries is the polar opposite of the policies Israel pursues?
  
  Or is it just more of the hypersensitivity that you’ve been programmed to react with when discussing the most influential ethnic group in the world?
  
  http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-donors-filling-candidates-war-chests-especially-clintons/
  
  “To learn who rules over you, first learn whom you are not allowed to criticise” – Voltaire
  
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  November 17, 2016 9:53am
  - mikenmild
    
    Oh, I understand you. Some Jews advocate policies you despise, so instead of arguing against those policies, you rail against the evil Jews.
    I get it, I really do get it: Jews bad; white folks good.
    Now, what should we do to solve the Jewish problem?
    
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    November 17, 2016 10:16am
  - Grant
    
    EAD wrote, “To learn who rules over you, first learn whom you are not allowed to criticise” – Voltaire”
    
    Well, from where I’m standing it appears that one can get in more trouble for criticising Muslims than you can from criticising Jews.
    Also don’t see the Jews pushing the UN HRC to adopt resolutions about combatting ” Religious Intolerance”.
    Then again, the above doesn’t sit well with your world view, Im sure.
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    Edit: Typos
    
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    November 17, 2016 3:35pm
- EAD
  
  I’ll leave it at this Milkmaid:
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxaJxDmWgAEgLqL.jpg
  
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  November 17, 2016 10:22am
Keeping Stock

Apologies in advance to DPF for using his blog for a crass commercial announcement.

I have a fundraising auction on TradeMe closing just after 2pm this afternoon. It’s for a Chicago Cubs World Series Champions t-shirt. It’s identical to the shirts Cubs players wore over their uniforms immediately after winning Game Seven in Cleveland. It’s authentic, and was purchased from the Cubs Clubhouse Store on Michingan Avenue on Friday 4th November, the day of the Cubs’ victory parade through Chicago.

All funds raised from this auction are going to Shave for a Cure, supporting Leukaemia and Blood Cancer NZ. The reserve price has been met, and the shirt will sell today.

Bid away:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1199357153&ed=true
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November 17, 2016 8:55am
- tom hunter
  
  🙂
  
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  November 17, 2016 2:14pm
Hugh Pavletich

MORE WELLINGTON BUILDINGS CLOSE … DOMINION POST / FAIRFAX NEW ZEALAND

More buildings closed, as Wellington’s mayor declares CBD safe for the public | Stuff.co.nz

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/86545274/more-buildings-closed-as-wellingtons-mayor-declares-cbd-safe-for-the-public

Wellington has returned to work almost as normal within three days of Monday’s earthquake – but questions are being asked as to whether we’ve rushed back too soon.

More buildings were closed on Wednesday as engineers continued their inspections around the city, leaving about 60 offices and apartment blocks shut.

None of those buildings were on the Wellington City Council’s recently published earthquake-prone list, leading one industry leader to suggest standards may need to be reviewed. … read more via hyperlink above …

What has been learned by the authorities these past 20 years ? …

1996 Television New Zealand documentary …

Christchurch 1996 Quake Doco – why buildings collapse – YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkTy6ogLDX8&lc=nTT73t5-ILJS8Mj8jY1kyjc2KZlR0Xb6ZkTdlcvA9gU&feature=inbox

What credible steps have the authorities at central and local level taken these past 20 years, to de-risk our urban areas (density is deadly … note Christchurch), by focusing on improving / restoring affordability and mobility ? …

Refer Alain Bertaud Introduction to the 2014 10th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey …

http://www.demographia.com/dhi2014.pdf
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November 17, 2016 8:55am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  … and too … in particular HIGHLIGHTED ARTICLES section at
  
  PERFORMANCE URBAN PLANNING
  
  http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:56am
  - CHFR
    
    Please stop shouting and we may start listening to you.
    
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    November 17, 2016 9:29am
    - trout
      
      Structural engineers in Wellington should be congratulated for the work done to e/q proof work CBD buildings. For an earthquake now rated at 7.8 damage was minor. It should be remembered that as in fire protection the requirements are to protect public safety as a priority over preventing building damage. Nobody was injured.
      
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      November 17, 2016 10:06am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Trout … I am baffled why there has been this damage in Wellington, when the major event early Monday morning was between Kaikoura and Hamner Springs … much closer to Christchurch than Wellington.
        
        Im based in Christchurch. The tremors experienced here in Christchurch early Monday morning were very moderate.
        
        There is much we need to learn about the problems experienced in Wellington.
        
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        November 17, 2016 11:00am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        A 7.8 earthquake over 200km away. intensity drops off with distance, would be <6 equivalent in Wellington.
        
        Also general trend of major earthquakes moving north along fault (Darfield 2011 – Hanmer/Kaikoura 2016) suggests next big earthquake location could be Wellington region in next decade or so. Similar behaviour noted in other major faultlines around world like Turkey:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Anatolian_Fault
        
        Wouldn't want to be in Wellington in a few years. And as we have seen earthquake strengthening/design is no guarantee of survival.
        
        Shift to somewhere nearby with cheaper land and build shorter wood or steel framed buildings (no high rise concrete).
        
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        November 17, 2016 5:32pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      NEW ZEALAND EARHQUAKES: INSURERS IMPOSE EMBARGO … INTEREST CO NZ
      
      Insurers put embargo on transferring home insurance from vendors to buyers from Rakaia to Masterton; Wellington deals frozen as mortages impossible without insurance, say agents; Boom stopped dead in its tracks | interest.co.nz
      
      http://www.interest.co.nz/news/84640/insurers-put-embargo-transferring-home-insurance-vendors-buyers-rakaia-masterton
      
      By Bernard Hickey
      
      Wellington’s new-found property boom appears to have been stopped dead in its tracks shortly after midnight on Monday.
      
      Real estate agents in Wellington report that house sales have frozen mid-settlement since Monday because insurers are refusing to roll over cover on properties from vendor to buyer, as they did in the immediate aftermath of the Canterbury earthquakes.
      
      The Hanmer earthquake at 12.02 am on Monday was upgraded from a 7.5 magnitude to a 7.8 magnitude late on Wednesday and has been followed by over 1,000 aftershocks. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      November 17, 2016 10:53am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Hugh:
        The tremors here in Wellington were anything but moderate.
        Clearly the forces went mainly North along the fault lines, borne out by the fact that most of the aftershocks are coming from the Seddon area.
        Nothing south of Hanmer (yes, that’s how it’s spelt).
        
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        November 17, 2016 11:40am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Captain Mainwaring … My understanding is that Wellington experienced 2g and less.
        
        Are there any readings from the accelerometres in the schools … as we had here in Christchurch with the Feb and June 2011 events as reported by the Royal Society soon after (see page 5) …
        
        THE CANTERBURY EARTHQUAKES … THE ROYAL SOCIETY REPORT (MID 2011)
        
        http://www.royalsociety.org.nz/media/information_paper-earthquake_engineering_christchurch.pdf
        
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        November 17, 2016 11:50am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Should have read 0.2g or less … not 2g.
        
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        November 17, 2016 12:00pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        More Wellington buildings evacuated over earthquake safety fears | Stuff.co.nz
        
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86576599/more-wellington-buildings-cordoned-off-over-earthquake-safety-fears
        
        The Archives New Zealand building in Wellington has been evacuated, and another central city street has been cordoned off over safety fears related to Monday’s earthquake.
        
        The Department of Internal Affairs said that all people had been evacuated from the Archives NZ building at 10 Mulgrave St due to earthquake-related damage on Thursday.
        
        “This is a precautionary measure following a new visual report from a structural engineer earlier today,” the department said on Facebook. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        Geonet releases future scenario forecasts, there will be more quakes | Stuff.co.nz
        
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86569505/geonet-release-future-scenario-forecasts-there-will-be-more-quakes
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:50pm
    - Nermal
      
      Nah
      
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      November 17, 2016 1:14pm
Morrissey

Three years ago this writer, i.e., moi, predicted
Donald Trump would become U.S. president.

In late December 2013, after witnessing the appalling spectacle of Barack Obama’s antics at Nelson Mandela’s funeral, I was moved to speculate on who would speak at Hopey-Changey’s own funeral in the year 2050….

So, the question has to be asked: is there anyone in the entire world who would be shameless enough to deliver a mealy-mouthed, utterly insincere eulogy for the late President Obama, just as President Obama delivered a mealy-mouthed, utterly insincere eulogy for the late Nelson Mandela.

Well, it so happens that there is someone who is just perfect for the job of leading the show of mourning for Barack Obama in the tradition, laid down by Obama himself, of eulogizing a person one would have persecuted and imprisoned if one had had the power to do so.

He is getting long in the tooth: in 2050 he will be 104 years old. But, thanks to the miracle of daily monkey gland injections, the drinking of gallons of Amrit Ras and the yearly blood sacrifice of a mewling sycophant on the world’s longest-running TV series The Apprentice, this world leader, and former president (2020-4), is still going strong.

Yes, step forward LORD DONALD TRUMP (May God Bless His Holy Name)…..

Ex-President Lord Trump’s Eulogy for Barack Obama 
December 11, 2050

To Michelle and the Obama family; to President Bieber and members of the government; to heads of state and government, past and present; distinguished guests – it is a singular honor to be with you today, to celebrate a life unlike any other. To the people of Kenya – people of every race and walk of life – the world thanks you for sharing Barack Obama with us….

Read more….
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-31122013/#comment-751510
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November 17, 2016 8:58am
VicParking

The failing newspaper has gone a step to far with BWD’s cartoon this morning. I sure that if BWD’s house feel around his ears and he needed evacuation he would be pushing to the front of the queue to get on an American helicopter. I know he is upset that his cartoon of the protest against the US is no more because they are helping the poor citizens of the earthquake but BWD, pull your head in you socialist prick.
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November 17, 2016 8:59am
All_on_Red

‘The U.S. Geological Survey has made its largest discovery of recoverable crude ever under parts of West Texas, the federal agency announced Tuesday.
A recent assessment found the “Wolfcamp shale” geologic formation in the Midland area holds an estimated 20 billion barrels of accessible oil along with 16 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 1.6 billion barrels of natural gas liquids. That’s three times higher than the amount of recoverable crude the agency found in the Bakken-Three Forks region in the upper midwest in 2013, making it “the largest estimated continuous oil accumulation that USGS has assessed in the United States to date,” according to a statement.
“The fact that this is the largest assessment of continuous oil we have ever done just goes to show that, even in areas that have produced billions of barrels of oil, there is still the potential to find billions more,” said Walter Guidroz, program coordinator for the USGS Energy Resources Program.’
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November 17, 2016 9:04am
- tom hunter
  
  Make America Great Again!
  
  Oh – and ~~PEAK OIL.~~
  
  Oh (2) – and short gun and ammunition stocks.
  
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  November 17, 2016 10:36pm
markm

Article in http://www.reallytrue.com yesterday

Climate scientists from the lobby group”Global Consensus” are blaming President elect Trump for a sudden and unprecedented melting of snowflakes .
A spokesman for the group said this will cause massive worldwide flooding and damage to food growing areas .
Dr Elliot Smith from “Real Peer and regularly reviewed and updated Science as new facts emerge Science Inc.” said there is a major upside to this devastation.
He said warmer temperatures combined with higher global CO2 will help GMO plants reestablish rapidly in the devastated areas , causing an end to global hunger and unprecedented prosperity for all.
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November 17, 2016 9:34am
Manolo

The patronising Obama addresses the greedy, control-freak Eurocrats:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-outline-vision-democracy-trump-world-081556000.html

On the final leg of a European farewell tour, Obama touched down in the German capital from Athens where he delivered a sweeping speech warning of the dangers to modern democracy.

The US leader acknowledged that globalisation had fuelled a “sense of injustice” and needed a “course correction” to address growing inequality.
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November 17, 2016 9:36am
- thedavincimode
  
  Did he drop by to say cheerio to the poms Manolo?
  
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  November 17, 2016 9:48am
  - Manolo
    
    No way, the Messiah cannot stand, loaths, Churchill and the treatment of his African relatives.
    
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    November 17, 2016 9:57am
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo , always one for a convenient lie and not an inconvenient truth ,
      
      The Jacob Epstein bust of Churchill was not donated to the Whitehouse but on loan for the duration of GWB Presidency ( the loan was extended after his midterm 2004 till it finished in 2009)
      
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/22/barack-obama-winston-churchill-bust-oval-office-britain
      
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      November 17, 2016 2:50pm
dime

Amy Schumer is coming to NZ.

Thats a must see. We can listen to how shes a drunk skank and the don is the devil woohooo

if we are real lucky she will praise us for our gun laws and rant about yank shit.

urgh
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November 17, 2016 9:55am
Manolo

Oh dear, the losers are having a go at each other:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nancy-pelosi-said-to-be-angry-defensive-in-democratic-caucus-meeting/
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November 17, 2016 9:58am
- waikatosinger
  
  In both NZ and the UK we have seen the phenomenon of left wing parties losing and deciding in response to ‘return to their roots’ and move further left. And when this has not worked for them they have doubled down and moved further left again. At this point, in both the UK and in NZ, Labour are deep in the hole and digging fast.
  
  The same thing is about to happen in the US, especially with the Bernie Sanders phenomenon giving them reason to hope that a more left wing message might appeal. Expect the Democrats to move a lot further left over the next few years. Will it work for them? I doubt it.
  
  Did people really support Bernie because of his left wing views. Some did for sure. But a big part of his appeal was that he wasn’t a Clinton. He also came across as non-corrupt, as his own man, and as a genuine person. And he was a change candidate like Trump at a time when people wanted change. In short I don’t think the Bernie phenomenon is great evidence that left wing views sell well in the US, especially not outside the Democratic party.
  
  Remember that we only saw Bernie in action in the primaries. Some polls do say he would have beaten Trump. But why should those be any more accurate than the ones that said Hillary would beat Trump.
  
  Anyway it will be interesting to watch.
  
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  November 17, 2016 11:25am
Liberty

Yesterday ztev came under a bit of flak for posting.
This is wrong. Trevor might epitomise the failing Labour party. But he has every right
to put his view here. In saying that joining in the discussion with constructive comment would be more helpful. Sniping from the side line is only one step above
spending your day down ticking. The strength of Kiwi blog is it freedom to post.
Unlike that other blog with its selected contributors policy or the bastion of socialism
The Standard.
Having different political and religious views should be encouraged.
It will bring more diversity to the discussions.
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November 17, 2016 10:05am
- Keeping Stock
  
  You are right and you are wrong Liberty. Yes; ZTrev has a right to comment here, subject to our host’s indulgence.
  
  But don’t forget that Kiwiblog readers ALSO have the right to reject what he says, if that is their choice, and to respond to ZTrev’s postings in the manner provided by DPF.
  
  Rights go both ways Liberty 😀
  
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  November 17, 2016 10:20am
  - Liberty
    
    Keeping Stock you are so right.
    Readers have every right to reject ZTrvs views. I would be disappointed
    If they didn’t. But Ztrv should have the right to express his views in the
    first place. It would also be helpful for readers to say why they disagree
    rather than just telling Ztrv to”fuck off” As that is just crass.
    No better than the great unwashed protesting in Auckland.
    
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    November 17, 2016 11:15am
  - markm
    
    interesting that the posts in question at 4.46 , 4.48 and 4.51 pm , what presumably was when the house was sitting.
    Why are we paying his salary if he isn’t doing his job.
    On the other hand he’s causing less damage posting and not doing his job.
    
    Keep it up Trevor , until next year when you will be forgotten as soon as the votes come in.
    Yours being the first to be announced as no technology will be required to count ,just some of a persons fingers.
    
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    November 17, 2016 11:16am
waikatogirl

Yes KS, Trevor is a big boy, and used to the sandpit of government. I’m sure he can handle a bit of flack on KB for his postings.

Interesting seeing what other’s points of view are even if they blow your mind with their stupidity!
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November 17, 2016 10:57am
jonar

Trump presidency – the gift that keeps on giving.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11749677

A former adviser to the US State Department has warned Washington insiders to “stay away” from working with the President-elect’s new administration, having previously called for others to support Mr Trump.
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despite his own reluctance to work for the President-elect – which included organising a letter against him – he urged younger colleagues in government to do so, provided they accept they will be the “horse, not the jockey”.
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However that all changed this week when Mr Cohen said he had had “an exchange” with the Trump transition team that changed his mind.

“Stay away. They’re angry, arrogant, screaming ‘you LOST!’ Will be ugly,” he said on Twitter.
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He also wrote an opinion piece for The Washington Post describing the Trump team as “never well prepared to begin with … now torn by acrimony, resignations and palace coups.”

Professor Cohen said new governments are often beset with complications and flashpoints, but warned this is not a “normal transition”.

“The President-elect is surrounding himself with mediocrities whose chief qualification seems to be unquestioning loyalty,” he said.

“My bottom line: Conservative political types should not volunteer to serve in this administration, at least for now. They would probably have to make excuses for things that are inexcusable and defend people who are indefensible.”
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November 17, 2016 11:11am
- Ross12
  
  Oh dear, the team are not picking the usual political groupies the Prof expects.
  What part of “drain the swamp” did this guy not get.
  You cannot make major change if you continue with the status quo , which includes employing the same people or same sort of people.
  
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  November 17, 2016 11:27am
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    Trump appears to have forgotten about the “Drain The Swamp” policy until Pence took over and reminded him of it.
    
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/16/tossed-aside-by-trump-industry-lobbyists-scramble-to-connect.html
    
    On Wednesday, the Trump purge accelerated, now with an effort to push out lobbyists close to the effort. NBC News confirmed that Vice President-elect Mike Pence, who has taken over the transition leadership, had ordered the removal of all lobbyists from the team. That move came in the wake of criticism for Trump’s use of lobbyists on his transition team despite his pledge to “drain the swamp” and clean up Washington ethics.
    
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    November 17, 2016 11:36am
    - All_on_Red
      
      In the article you attach Trump is quoted as saying he is frustrated with only lobbyists being available and wants to get outside help. Which is now occurring.
      It doesn’t say “Trump appears to have forgotten about the “Drain The Swamp” policy until Pence took over and reminded him of it”
      Why do lefties like you blatantly lie all the time?
      
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      November 17, 2016 11:43am
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        It’s not a lie to point out that Trump hired lobbyists despite pledging to drain the swamp since that’s exactly what happened, and they were removed by Pence not Trump.
        
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        November 17, 2016 11:57am
      - All_on_Red
        
        It is a lie to say Pence had to remind him. You have no evidence of that. Trump could have instructed him. But keep scabbling, it’s amusing.
        
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        November 17, 2016 12:13pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Cohen is a never trumper loser. He doesn’t know what’s going on inside the Tranistion Team.
  I’ll laugh if the rumour that Trump is going to appoint Cruz as Attorney General is true. That really is a drain the swamp appointment.
  
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  November 17, 2016 11:36am
  - jonar
    
    He doesn’t know what’s going on inside the Tranistion Team.
    
    If you read the article he made his comments after meeting with the Transition Team.
    
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    November 17, 2016 11:58am
    - All_on_Red
      
      He didn’t say he had a meeting. He said he had an ‘exchange’ with the Transistion team. It’s notable he didn’t say with whom. He’s not a credible source.
      Especially when it’s reported by the WaPo
      
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      November 17, 2016 12:11pm
      - jonar
        
        Exactly what is going to be a credible source now that you have to defend Trump for the next four years?
        
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        November 17, 2016 12:56pm
      - stephieboy
        
        I doubt Trump will ” drain the swamp ” with these shale gas and oil interests and their lobbyists ,
        
        http://fortune.com/2016/11/14/donald-trump-victory-us-shale-oil/
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:04pm
- Inandout
  
  Trump’s position is not the same as Hillary’s had she won. The Clinton Team would have been ready to go, and positions filled immediately with those expecting favours for ‘services rendered’ to Hillary. Trump is used to hiring the best for the job, and the transition team is just that – transition.
  
  As this rather presumptive 21/10/16 article tells-
  
  ‘The secretive team tasked with preparing for a possible Hillary Clinton presidency is ramping up big time.
  
  With polls pointing to the likelihood of a Clinton win, her transition team is hiring staff, culling through the resumés of possible Cabinet nominees and reaching out to key Democrats for input, according to people familiar with the process’.
  
  http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-transition-team-hiring-staff-230157
  
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  November 17, 2016 12:58pm
Fletch

More politically correct bull. An 11-year-old girl suspended from school for a week because she cut a peach in half for a friend with a child-sized, toddler-safe knife she had. Police have been called to investigate.

In the latest incident of anti-weapon hysteria to erupt in a school setting, officials at a middle school in South Florida have suspended an 11-year-old girl for six days because she brought a child-proof, toddler-size cutlery knife to school and used it to cut a peach in half for a friend.

Astonishingly, local police are now investigating the fact that a little girl cut a piece of fruit with a tiny knife at school. She faces the possibility of criminal charges.

The unidentified girl was preparing to eat the peach. A friend asked her for half of it. The girl then used her harmless toddler knife to cut the peach and share it with her friend.

“This is a set of a spoon, fork and knife for toddlers — one year old,” the girl’s mother, Andrea Souto, added. “It is made for children to learn how to eat properly. She’s used it since she was baby.”

School officials say they suspended the girl for six days — and notified police — because she violated a countywide weapons policy when she used the toddler knife to cut a peach in half for her friend.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/16/11-year-old-girl-suspended-facing-criminal-charges-for-cutting-peach-at-school/

Political correctness gone crazy.
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November 17, 2016 11:13am
Happychappy

Trevor never seems to have good word to say about the Prime Minister so why should people give him respect.
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November 17, 2016 11:20am
- starboard
  
  Yup.
  
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  November 17, 2016 3:55pm
- sam green
  
  Same reason they should give you respect.
  
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  November 17, 2016 3:59pm
Fletch

Yep apparently Princess Leia and Han Solo (at least, the actors who played them) really got it on for 3 months in 1977. The 19-year-old Carrie Fisher and 33-year-old, married, Harrison Ford had an affair, according to Fisher’s new book.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2016/11/15/carrie-fisher-reveals-intense-affair-harrison-ford/93936354/
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November 17, 2016 11:22am
Ross12

Time for a laugh , thanks to the the MSM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7GEa7r8Vyk
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November 17, 2016 11:23am
Morrissey

He Toki Huna: New Zealand In Afghanistan
by Kay Ellmers and Annie Goldson
First screened on Maori Television, 8:30 p.m., Wednesday 24 April 2013

1.) Instead of the usual assortment of political deadbeats, professional time-servers, paid liars and mealy-mouthed “comedians” that usually comment on our “involvement” in Afghanistan, this documentary went to people who really know what they are talking about. So during the hour, we were privileged to hear the insights of such people as James Fergusson, the author of an acclaimed history of the Taliban; Donald Matheson, senior lecturer in journalism at Canterbury University; journalists Nicky Hager, Jon Stephenson, Mike McRoberts and Ali Safi; and even the odd honest New Zealand soldier, namely the Army patrol man Alpha Kennedy.

2.) Of course, to balance out the rigorous analysis and honesty, Goldson presented us with a gruesome line-up of liars and scoundrels, but they were shown up for what they are, rather than being treated seriously as they usually are in the obedient corporate media. These liars and scoundrels included: the new NZ Defence Force chief Dave Gawn; the “civilian director” of the Provincial Reconstruction Team, Richard Prendergast; U.S. General John R. Allen; NZ Chief of Defence Rhys Jones; former Defence Minister Wayne “Inane” Mapp; Commander Shaun Fogerty of the NZDF; and “Not So Honest” John Key.

3.) Nicky Hager revealed a leaked internal memo that set out the government’s and army’s PR strategy: “simply repeat at all times that we are not going to war in Afghanistan, we are going there to assist in reconstruction.”

4.) When NZDF chief Dave Gawn was confronted with this, he blithered: “I’m not familiar with the document he’s talking about. But consistent messages are important. Otherwise you’re all over the show.”

5.) Jon Stephenson actually did something radical: he went out and interviewed some Bamiyan locals. Their responses completely undermine what our Government and Army officials have been saying for ten years. While the Hazara people in Bamiyan acknowledge the NZ soldiers have done some effective security work, they dismissed the idea that the Kiwis have done any useful reconstruction—which is what they are supposed to be doing there. The verdict of the young men being interviewed: “It’s a joke. Their reconstruction efforts were of no use.” ….. “They built my school, badly. It’s falling down already.” The projects were damned as piecemeal, and amateurish.

6.) New Zealand soldier Alpha Kennedy: “We have to ask ourselves: would we tolerate the presence of foreign soldiers in New Zealand? The Afghan resistance is very similar to the Maori tribes fighting the British invaders in the nineteenth century.”

7.) Mike McRoberts: “Our presence in Bamiyan attracts resistance. We draw fighters into Bamiyan by the very fact we are there.”

8.) Television footage of street demonstrations following the Qu’ran burnings by U.S. troops. Major General Gawn has an answer ready: “There are a hundred thousand American troops in Afghanistan. There will always be a few bad apples.” Gen. John R. Allen tries to muster up every bit of gravitas he can as he assures the U.S. television audience that those responsible for the Qu’ran burnings “will be tracked down.”

9.) The Taliban are far more popular than the foreign press would have us believe. Even the many Afghans who do not care for the Taliban admire them for taking the fight to the occupation forces. Even in Kabul, support for the Taliban is open and widespread. Major General Dave Gawn acknowledges the frustrations of fighting against guerrillas: “They are an insurgency. They don’t wear a uniform. They live amongst the population.” Such frustration was also voiced by the Germans in Yugoslavia in the 1940s, by the Americans in South Vietnam in the 1960s, and the Russians in, errrr, Afghanistan in the 1980s.

10.) Nicky Hager: “The Taliban is the name for anyone who doesn’t like us.”

11.) Footage of Rhys Jones and Wayne “Inane” Mapp blithering confusedly about SAS troops being there to “mentor” the Afghan “forces”, and then being immediately undercut by the infamous photo of Willie Apiata and an SAS comrade striding through Kabul, with guns smoking. Commander Shaun Fogerty sounds off about the publication of the photo: “very disappointing.”

12.) New Zealand has little history of journalists confronting official lies. Nicky Hager: “The ideology of the heroic soldier is almost beyond question. To even question the mission—not the soldiers, but the mission—is heresy.”

13.) The documentary effectively and damningly shows the hurried official attempt to cover up the truth of the botched mission that led to the death of SAS Corporal Douglas Grant. Lt. Gen. Rhys Jones comes across as particularly dishonest, but he is the embodiment of Truthfulness when compared to Prime Minister John Key, who reiterates obvious lies at a press conference, then refuses to answer any questions.

14.) Another damning clip of Key, this time spinning his lies on TV One’s Breakfast programme, while interviewer Corin Dann sits mute and bewildered, as usual.

15.) As the documentary nears its end, even Major General Dave Gawn allows himself to acknowledge reality: “I’d be very guarded about whether the insurgency is growing.”

16.) James Fergusson: “We are pursuing exactly the same strategy as the Russians did.”

17.) Donald Matheson: “It is the job of New Zealand journalists to help us work out what has happened.”

18.) Jon Stephenson: “It’s the job of journalism to hold the powers-that-be to account.”

19.) Interestingly, this documentary was preceded by a warning that it contained language that could offend. There was actually no swearing at all on the programme, so I presume this was a sly critique of what we were about to hear from Gawn, Jones, Allen, Prendergast, Fogerty, Mapp and Key.

20.) I’ll leave the last word to an honest soldier, Alpha Kennedy: “The future is very, very grim.”

https://thestandard.org.nz/he-toki-huna-new-zealand-in-afghanistan-maori-tv/#comment-624513
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November 17, 2016 12:08pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Any endless load of drivel that includes a mention of the despicable weasel-faced anarchist Nicky Hager deserves at least ten downticks, but I’m only allowed one.
  
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  November 17, 2016 7:55pm
  - Morrissey
    
    You should read it instead of just looking at it, Captain. Simply hurling epithets at people you don’t like is not a substitute for reasoned argument.
    
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    November 17, 2016 7:58pm
Stars And Stripes

Petition to stop Destiny Church having tax-free status gaining support
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11749796.
“With the recent news from the self-appointed “Bishop” Brian Tamaki that gays were to blame for the earthquake in Kaikoura, I call upon John Key and the New Zealand Government to classify Destiny Church as a hate group and strip them of their tax free status,” Smithson said on Change”

Oh FFS here we go again trying to label people as a hate group to try and shut them up.
Tamaki might be a bit unhinged for sure but to call it a hate group is just hyperbole.
As for the tax free status, well I reckon the whole tax free business is a scam fullstop whether you are talking about Destiny, Sanitarium or Iwi Corporations.
They should all be paying tax.
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November 17, 2016 12:31pm
- Paulus
  
  Don’t forget Greenpeace are a registered charity.
  
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  November 17, 2016 1:54pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Greenpeace actually does good work—in contrast to some “charities” such as the one (subsequently deregistered) which poses as a victims’ rights organization but decided to support the KILLER after a brutal South Auckland knifing in 2008.
    
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    November 17, 2016 5:34pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      I assume you are talking about the case of Bruce Emery who stabbed that nasty little vandal kid.
      Move on Morrissey as most other people in NZ did very quickly after the event.
      
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      November 17, 2016 6:33pm
      - Morrissey
        
        I assume you are talking about the case of Bruce Emery who
        
        You’re onto it, my friend!
        
        …stabbed that nasty little vandal kid.
        
        How do you know he was nasty? Sure he was a pain in the ass, but since when did tagging become a capital offence? There are many, many kids more obnoxious than Pihema Cameron ever was. Do you think someone would be justified in taking a knife to THIS privileged, nasty little piece of s*it?….
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqVWKHTr1wM
        
        Move on Morrissey as most other people in NZ did very quickly after the event.
        
        A pity someone like you didn’t advise the hosts at NewstalkZB. They spent nearly all of their time for weeks after the killing pouring filth on the dead boy and, like Garth the Knife McVicar, praising the killer.
        
        Then, a year later when Emery was given an obscenely light sentence, they cranked up the hatred again, this time to ridicule and defame the mother of the dead boy, who had the poor taste to cry in public after the farcical verdict.
        
        NewstalkZB host Kerre Woodham was so outraged by the mother’s display of grief that she penned a horrible lecture to her in the Sunday Herald.
        
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        November 17, 2016 7:34pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        You got me all choked up Morrissey.
        Obviously Kerre Woodman and the others at Newstalk ZB must be some of those real journalists you were referring to last night.
        
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        November 17, 2016 7:43pm
      - Morrissey
        
        You got me all choked up Morrissey.
        
        So do you think that it would be acceptable for someone to take a weapon to that privileged and abusive waste of space in the video?
        
        Obviously Kerre Woodman and the others at Newstalk ZB must be some of those real journalists you were referring to last night.
        
        Ha ha! Good one, buddy.
        
        By the way, Kerre Woodham was anything but amused when one of my colleagues imitated her letter to the dead boy’s mother. You’ll see her leap into the action about two dozen messages into the thread….
        
        https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/nz.general/%22kerre$20ohoWmad%22$20$2B$20clayton%7Csort:relevance/nz.general/jNA3qqcb4SU/kS0R6NV8W8MJ
        
        That was bad enough, but her incandescent anger in the Sunday Herald a week later was really something to behold….
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10585272
        
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        November 17, 2016 8:10pm
- Happychappy
  
  These are the people that call the Prime Minster and the National Party corrupt so now things don’t suit their way of life and they don’t agree with free speech they want the PM to do them a favour and become a dictator by removing Destiny Church Tax Free Status
  
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  November 17, 2016 2:10pm
Manolo

The delicate snowflakes go mad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3943822/Thousands-students-walk-protests-against-Donald-Trump.html

Thousands of college students across the country have held ‘walk outs’ in an attempt to make campuses a ‘sanctuary’ for undocumented immigrants, gay people, Muslims and other minorities.
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November 17, 2016 1:11pm
- Paulus
  
  Assume they will still get credits for their degrees by not turning in the requirements – or will they be given Clinton dispensation credits.
  
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  November 17, 2016 1:56pm
- Fletch
  
  It’s funny how they say that Trump is sexist, homophobic, racist, bigoted, xenophobic etc etc, and yet immigrants, gay people, pro-choice women and Muslims voted for him.
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/opinions/trump-supporters-why-vote/
  
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  November 17, 2016 1:58pm
Manolo

At age 76 this American witch is unable to relinquish political power:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/16/pelosi-officially-running-house-minority-leader/

Rep. Nancy Pelosi formally announced Wednesday she is running to retain her spot as House minority leader and sent a warning shot to potential rivals by informing her colleagues that she has already locked up “the support of more than two-thirds” of the Democratic caucus.

Mrs. Pelosi has led the caucus since 2003, but the results of the election last week convinced the caucus to delay a scheduled vote this week on leadership posts until Nov. 30, with members saying they want more time to digest the shellacking the party took.
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November 17, 2016 1:22pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Which is precisely why she wanted an early vote.
  
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  November 17, 2016 1:35pm
cha

I guess they have more important things to worry about.

The State Department confirms that, like the Pentagon, it has not heard from anyone on Donald Trump’s team https://t.co/55zjaN6PUc— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) November 17, 2016
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November 17, 2016 1:52pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Busy lining up the ducks cha. The dead ducks. Meanwhile, steak and chips with La Famiglia.
  
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  November 17, 2016 2:00pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Why does the State dept and the Pentagon need to hear from Trump? He has no authority and won’t until January next year.
  I see that looking back over other transitions, most President elects didn’t really have their team sorted until 5-6 weeks after the Election.
  
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  November 17, 2016 2:05pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Because, by all accounts, he shouldn’t even say stuff to foreign leaders like: “Hello, thanks for your congrats and I look forward to working with you too and my people will be in touch with your people and btw, heard about your earthquake how are you getting on?” without a State Department briefing.
    
    As far as any time-frame for sorting his team out is concerned, because his election has caused such a kerfuffle, he’s been derelict in his duty by not sorting everything out by the end of last week. In fact this should all have been organised in advance of the election.
    
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    November 17, 2016 2:44pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Oh that’s ridiculous. He can’t express concern about an Earthquake or receive a congratulatory call? Heck, its not like he’s renegotiating NAFTA is it.
      And NO other President Elect had things sorted until 5-6 weeks later. Obama is still President so it’s not as if the place is leaderless.
      Frankly your bias is clouding your objectivity.
      
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      November 17, 2016 3:00pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        Let’s just say that went straight through to the keeper without an edge.
        
        BTW, not sure that you thought this sentence through:
        
        Obama is still President so it’s not as if the place is leaderless.
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:07pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Ha, yes, Obama and leaderless go together. Let’s face it most of Trumps work will be signing about 70 letters revoking Executive Actions!
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:17pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        I expect he can just whizz through those when he does his Xmas cards.
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:21pm
  - cha
    
    I see that looking back over other transitions, most President elects didn’t really have their team sorted until 5-6 weeks after the Election.
    
    Most incoming administrations have been well down the track by the time election day rolls around.
    
    In the early months of Bush’s 2000 transition, which began in June 1999, the campaign’s deputy policy director Gary Edson, began compiling policy work from the campaign trail (in July 2000, and again just before the election). By gathering these documents early, the policy team went into the formal transition phase able to focus immediately on planning and execution. Coordinating this work with the campaign will avoid duplication of effort.
    
    […]
    
    A memorandum of understanding (MOU) is needed between the transition team and the White House regarding the transition team’s access to federal agencies. Ideally, this MOU should be negotiated after the party nominating conventions, although it will be signed only after Election Day. For certain agencies, including the Department of Defense, additional MOUs may be needed. In 2012, the legal team of the Romney Readiness Project drafted an MOU to be signed by the president’s chief of staff and the chairman of the Romney transition based on the 2008 MOU between the Bush White House and the Obama transition.49 Had Romney been elected, this would have been signed and executed immediately following the election. Future presidential administrations and transition teams should consider adopting this model as the standard template for all future transitions
    
    http://ourpublicservice.org/publications/download.php?id=845
    
    via – http://presidentialtransition.org/timeline/appointments/2016-04-pre.php
    
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    November 17, 2016 2:58pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      cha, ease up on him. You’ve no doubt seen that he’s only wound up in this position because he tried to get more money from NBC by announcing he’d run. Not quite the outcome he was originally anticipating.
      
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      November 17, 2016 3:00pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        lol. Next you’ll be saying it’s the Chemtrails which made him run.
        Hahahahahahaha, he spends $70 million + cause he wants more money out of NBC?hahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahaha
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:05pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        No, it’s true. Michael Moore said so.
        
        Edit: haven’t heard about those Chemtrails though. There might be something in that.
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:09pm
      - cha
        
        the Chemtrails which made him run
        
        Well it is The Donald and with The Donald, anything is possible.
        /
        
        I haven’t written anything about Donald Trump and vaccines in a while, although I did express amusement when Donald Trump appeared on The Dr. Oz Show to tout how healthy he supposedly is and when Deepak Chopra, of all people, castigated Trump for not being evidence-based. More importantly, I expressed dismay that disgraced antivaccine quack Andrew Wakefield reportedly met with Donald Trump and found a receptive ear.
        
        Trump, it turns out, has a history of making wildly ridiculous antivaccine statements dating back at least to 2007. That was when I first discovered him and referred to him as the latest celebrity antivaccinationist drinking the Kool Aid of vaccine pseudoscience. A few years later, I noted his risibly nonsensical claim that a “monster shot” causes autism. Truly, Donald Trump’s history of making idiotic antivaccine statements is long and sordid. Of course, Donald Trump’s history of making idiotic statements about a great many subjects is long and sordid, but antivaccine pseudoscience is what I know better than domestic or foreign policy.
        
        http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/11/10/congratulations-america-youve-just-elected-a-conspiracy-mongering-scientific-ignoramus-as-president/
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:19pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      The stats show clearly that all the others didn’t have their teams in place until 5-6 weeks after the Election.
      Trump has plenty of Policy planned and it’s clear the GOP are working with him on it. Replacing Obama care is one where they are pretty much ready to go
      
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      November 17, 2016 3:01pm
      - cha
        
        Link?.
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:06pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Obviously, Defence and foreign policy will have a low, low priority under Trump’s watch ?
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:07pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Link- it was on the Tucker Carlson Show about 45 minutes ago. They had a graph showing the timelines for the last 8 or so Presidents and how long it took to do everything.
        No doubt a clip of the segment will be up soon.
        
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        November 17, 2016 3:14pm
      - Ross12
        
        Just for stephieboy –no need to worry.
        
        “The transition team will also form several “landing teams” to go to federal agencies to facilitate the transition. The first teams would meet with National Security Agency, the State Department, the Justice Department, and the Defense Department with plans to launch further endeavors.”
        
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        November 17, 2016 4:26pm
      - cha
        
        No doubt a clip of the segment will be up soon
        
        So, no link to clearly that all the others didn’t have their teams in place until 5-6 weeks after the Election, on the Tucker Carlson Show?.
        
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        November 17, 2016 9:46pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Considering they repeat the show, you could have watched it yourself…
        It is pretty hard to link to a television program which had just been shown. Frankly, I don’t care what you believe. Your opinion means nothing to me.
        But hey, at least I aren’t like some complete MORONS who think that all the proof they need is a link to a tweet!
        Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
        
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        November 17, 2016 10:22pm
      - cha
        
        Do some some research yourself you dumb ****
        
        Indeed I have done my research, and provided links showing transition planning begins months out with timetables, processes and teams assembled before election day.
        
        edit: went for the jugular, huh, and came up with your own purple vein….
        
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        November 17, 2016 10:24pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        None of your links show how long it took other President elects to release the names of their full transition teams. Certainly not like what was shown in Carlsons show.
        Your links just talk about a guide and what has to be done. No comparative timeframes. What an idiot thinking it could be done in under a week and so what if it takes awhile. So what? You just want smear cause that’s all little ***** like you do.
        I see Biden even said to Pence that with Obama they weren’t completely ready
        Edit- see your edit, face it, you are really just a lightweight low info no comprehension losing snowflake lol
        
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        November 17, 2016 10:31pm
      - cha
        
        Do you abuse anyone who challenges you?.
        
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        November 17, 2016 10:44pm
      - cha
        
        What an idiot thinking it could be done in under a week and so what if it takes awhile
        
        .
        
        See, you can’t even parse what you read.
        
        Bush’s 2000 transition, which began in June 1999,
        
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        November 17, 2016 10:47pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Re Bush, if you did your research you would learn that his transition and the naming of his cabinet and appointments was delayed because of the challenge by Gore.
        Apart from Bush, got anyone else? You do realise they have to appoint close to 4000 people?
        And hey, you were the smartarse with your comment about my link. So GFY.
        The funny thing is, the more snowflake losers like you come up with these pathetic smears the less credibility you have. It’s really funny to watch because the more you do it, the less people believe.Not that really anyone take you seriously.
        Twitter links eh DUDE
        Hahahahahahahahahah
        
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        November 17, 2016 10:55pm
      - cha
        
        You linked?.
        
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        November 17, 2016 11:00pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Oh dear I see you and your links talk about Transition teams. Trump has appointed his Transition team. Pence is leading it. His family are involved. Bannon is on it.
        What he is doing now is going through applicants and starting to appoint ACTUAL members of his Cabinet. When I talk about team, that’s what I meant. His team to govern.
        You obviously fail to make the distinction.
        So frankly your whole argument is pointless.
        He has his transition team already.
        
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        November 17, 2016 11:09pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Here’s your link
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
        
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        November 17, 2016 11:15pm
      - cha
        
        You obviously fail to make the distinction.
        
        As per my link – Bush’s 2000 transition, which began in June 1999 and under legislation passed earlier this year the incumbent must establish transition councils six months before the election, to begin transition on the day after the election.
        
        The orange one and his mob weren’t ready.
        
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        November 18, 2016 9:59am
Fletch

You will be glad to know (or some of you won’t) that the euthanasia bill was defeated in South Australia. The final vote taken at 4:02am was 23 to 23, and defeated on the casting vote of the speaker.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-16/voluntary-euthanasia-debate-in-south-australia-goes-to-committee/8031776
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November 17, 2016 2:15pm
rangitoto

All is explained.

https://twitter.com/SeanPlunket/status/798803940103962624
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November 17, 2016 2:46pm
Manolo

Another mole wants to become the boss:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3927980/Race-rescue-DNC-Muslim-Congressman-Keith-Ellison-puts-mix-Howard-Dean-asks-job.html
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November 17, 2016 3:32pm
Manolo

Vanquished Obama’s true legacy:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/after-winning-7-more-seats-gop-dominance-state-legislatures-all

Republicans added to their historic 2014 gains in the nation’s state legislatures with the addition of five state House chambers and two state Senate chambers in last week’s election, while Democratic control was reduced to levels not seen since the Civil War.
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November 17, 2016 3:44pm
cha

He we have NSA head Admiral Michael S. Rogers openly describing Wikileaks as a tool of a “nation-state” .(that’d be Russia)

“There shouldn’t be any doubt in anybody’s mind,” he says, “This was not something that was done casually. This was not something that was done by chance. This was not a target that was selected purely arbitrarily. This was a conscious effort by a nation state to achieve a specific effect.”

"A conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect" NSA chief on WikiLeaks https://t.co/kvmrTyVE30 #WSJCEOCouncil pic.twitter.com/AT2pxK2ROR— Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) November 15, 2016
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November 17, 2016 4:23pm
- Reid
  
  openly describing Wikileaks as a tool of a “nation-state” .(that’d be Russia)
  
  No it’s actually Israel cha. Assange is Mossad, he gets his material from the Israeli’s who get it from the NSA.
  
  There’s quite a bit of evidence.
  
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  November 17, 2016 5:26pm
- tom hunter
  
  There was a PBS documentary on Wikileaks back in 2011 (when Lefties still loved him). But it was the press release that came with it that threw many people for a loop:
  
  Was Julian Assange prepared to publish some of the leaked documents without adequately redacting the names of people who could have been harmed by the disclosures?
  “Julian was very reluctant to delete those names, to redact them.” David Leigh of the Guardian newspaper tells FRONTLINE of meetings he attended with Assange in the run-up to publication of the war logs. “And we said: ‘Julian, we’ve got to do something about these redactions. We really have got to.’ And he said: ‘These people were collaborators, informants. They deserve to die.’ And a silence fell around the table.”
  
  Doesn’t sound like something a CIA or Mossad spy would say and do – unless you love double-double-double (infinite regress) games. Sounds like the sort of thing a traditional, hard-line Far Leftist like Yoza would do.
  
  There’s also this from his interview with The Huffington Post:
  
  Anyone who’s been involved in exposing or criticizing very powerful organizations will understand that all sorts of assaults are made on your public record. False assaults. I encourage people always (and in life in general) to read the primary source documents, not stories and not opinion writing. You can look at FreeAssangeNow.org. Sometimes it’s quite funny having been called a Mossad agent, a CIA Agent and a cat torturer. Of course, I am none of these things.
  
  No – he’s just a Far Left piece of shit, determined to fuck over the West any way he can. An uglier version of Jane Fonda, Tom Haden, etc.
  
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  November 17, 2016 5:38pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Tom, you need to ease off on the dull and abusive invective. It doesn’t do anything for your credibility.
    
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    November 17, 2016 5:48pm
    - Reid
      
      It’s not just that he needs to lay off to improve his credibility but I for one won’t be holding my breath waiting for it to happen.
      
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      November 17, 2016 6:13pm
    - tom hunter
      
      Come on Morrissey, stop wasting your time on me and start arguing with Reid about Assange being a Mossad agent.
      
      Or CIA.
      
      Either one’s good – although Mossad would be way more cool.
      
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      November 17, 2016 7:06pm
Inandout

And we thought The Standard followers were bat shit crazy, but this sick Democrat takes the cake.

https://therealstrategy.com/charles-walz-batshit-hillary-supporter-calls-rape-murder-children-doxxed/
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November 17, 2016 4:46pm
Odakyu-sen

When they clear SH1 to Kaikoura, what are they going to do with the debris? If they have any sense, they will bulldoze it onto the foreshore and use it to help widen the road.
If they are really stupid, they will truck it away (truck load by truck load) and waste vast amounts of time, labor and fuel in the process.
So, will it be the common-sense way or the stupid way?
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November 17, 2016 4:57pm
- nasska
  
  Need you ask Odakyu-sen?
  
  The stupid way of course.
  
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  November 17, 2016 5:03pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  It will become quite apparent very quickly what method will prevail if you start hearing the words sacred or taniwha.
  
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  November 17, 2016 5:09pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Ask Fulton Hogan which makes more money and takes the longest – that will be the option they take. Fulton Hogan may get on my case soon, but I have many photos of the incompetence in the Albany project. What a milking this was/is
  
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  November 17, 2016 6:41pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Odakyu-sen:
  
  … they will truck it away (truck load by truck load) and waste vast amounts of time, labor and fuel in the process …
  
  I’ve just thought of an excellent work-for-the-dole scheme!
  
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  November 17, 2016 6:45pm
- wiseowl
  
  If ever there was a time where a Minister could show some leadership it is now.
  Extraordinary circumstances so take the commonsense way and use the opportunity to do as you say.
  Widen the road ,blow up that great big bluff and upgrade SH1 which should be four laned or improved as much as possible.
  Overule the mob that will stop the opportunity.
  
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  November 17, 2016 7:15pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Maybe they will ship it over Cook Strait and use it to extend Wellington Airport by 10 kilometres.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:02pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Actually Oda, you make perfect sense. By shoving it all onto the foreshore they can future proof that road by four-laning it down the entire coastline.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:04pm
jonar

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/word-of-the-year/word-of-the-year-2016

After much discussion, debate, and research, the Oxford Dictionaries Word of the Year 2016 is post-truth – an adjective defined as ‘relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief’.

The term has moved from being relatively new to being widely understood in the course of a year – demonstrating its impact on the national and international consciousness. The concept of post-truth has been simmering for the past decade, but Oxford shows the word spiking in frequency this year in the context of the Brexit referendum in the UK and the presidential election in the US, and becoming associated overwhelmingly with a particular noun, in the phrase post-truth politics.
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November 17, 2016 5:09pm
- Reid
  
  Which says what about sheeple?
  
  Aren’t they….
  
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  November 17, 2016 7:37pm
nasska

….”objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief”…..

Describes the Labour/Green Party mantras to a T.
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November 17, 2016 5:40pm
Reid

Obama, Clinton, and Sanders Could Stop the Riots But They Just Watch

The very people who have the power to stop these protests and riots with just a few well-spoken words have been completely silent on the issue.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/16/obama-clinton-sanders-could-stop-riots-but-they-just-watch.html

What a surprise. Considering Bill and Killary the day after the election result attended the launch of Soros’ Purple Revolution, both wearing purple, I’m amazed she hasn’t tried to quieten the crowds.

Again, you can see the poisonous treasonous callous mindset of your average senior lefty. You think Andrew wouldn’t do the same?

We wouldn’t, but they have no problem using the very people they claim to care for, as pawns. Who cares if they get hurt.

And don’t expect the biased media to learn a lesson, either. They’ve got a new job, attack the Trump Administration everywhere on everything all the time.
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November 17, 2016 6:10pm
Reid

This will be a summary, update, and extension from, a 25,000-word masterpiece of historical writing: the obscure, little-noticed, but hair-raising and scrupulously documented, account of how U.S. foreign policy, starting in 1994 (shortly after Bill Clinton became President), began to be subcontracted-out or privatized to Silicon Valley and America’s top weapons-firms such as Lockheed Martin: Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed’s magisterial 22 January 2015 article, «How the CIA made Google: Inside the secret network behind mass surveillance, endless war, and Skynet». [link is in the article]

His detailed account is 100% consistent with theorists who have alleged that ever since at least the George W. Bush Administration, the U.S. government has been moving more and more in the direction of becoming a police-state, but Ahmed’s focus is earlier than that and on the international-affairs portion of that, and on the participation of Google and other Silicon Valley firms — and Wall Street (basically the entire aristocracy) — in making it all happen…

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/16/noose-obama-wanted-hand-president-hillary-hang-us-democracy-i.html
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November 17, 2016 6:21pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , I take it November 8th a further example of the move towards a police state ?
  
  Does 1991 ( the end of Soviet Union ) figure in your above nonsense ?
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:14pm
Reid

US, British ‘Clean House’ to Delete Syria Terror Links

Of course they do, can’t have the evidence lying around once Trump gets going, better “delete” the leaders who know what we’ve been doing.

It’s a shame isn’t it that no-one had thought previously about tasking the special ops boys to do this simply ages ago.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/14/us-british-clean-house-delete-syria-terror-links.html
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November 17, 2016 6:32pm
Inandout

Was shown a copy of the Manawatu Standard, that rapidly dying newspaper. Four articles on Trump, all anti. Don’t they ever learn, you print stuff that readers find stupid, so they don’t buy?
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November 17, 2016 6:43pm
- Reid
  
  It’s all AP/Reuters stuff InandOut. Who owns them? Killary supporters, that’s who.
  
  And so it begins.
  
  As I explained above.
  
  Relentless negativity from now on. You watch as it unfolds.
  
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  November 17, 2016 7:18pm
Reid

Soros’s Formula for Killing America: A Brief Guide, for Americans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeM_l5mkyYc
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November 17, 2016 7:16pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , you’d have to admit that November 8th put the spanner in the works to the Hungarian Jew’s nefarious designs e.g those electronic voting machines said to be strategically located in 16 states ?
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:36pm
Nostradamus

Traveller, commenting at YourNZ, has highlighted the following comment by Elle at The Daily Blog:

Mike in Auckland. i dont usually agree with you but in many ways you are right,i dont agree about Trump , i believe he might be the one to stop American criminality.

However if you read Wake up New Zealand today and read about the American ship parked on faultline on Kaikoura coast before the earthquake you might get an idea of whats really going on and its not good.Lots of suspicious happenings there,Key is aware of it,and not raised any alarms,everyone should read the article then they might want to protest themselves,not that it would change much, Key would ignore any protest

It seems the earthquake was not a natural occurrence, but man made to take over Kaikoura coast for oil exploration, this is objected to because of whales in the area and ruination of coast for American profit .This is happening under Obama admin ,nothing to do with Trump.

John Kerry was in the area checking on climate change,coincidence?American EQ scientists there before quake also,check it out,all dissapeared before quake to observe their mischief from a safe distance.

I’m reminded of what Winston Churchill said: “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter”. How many Elles are out there?
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November 17, 2016 8:00pm
- nasska
  
  The Daily Blog don’t know how lucky they are with Elle to advise them. We have lunatics commenting here who believe in a magic man in the sky.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:11pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    Like Scott?
    
    However [Brian Tamaki] is more right than all of you. He takes God seriously and believes that a day of judgement is coming which is true. There will come a time when we will all have to stand before our maker and account for our deeds both good and bad. We need to be ready for that day.
    
    I’m trying to imagine how your conversation with God would go.
    
    God: Hello Nasska!
    …
    
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    November 17, 2016 8:16pm
    - nasska
      
      Lot’s of people claim to have spoken to God Nostra. What I want to know is why they didn’t get Him to autograph their Bibles.
      
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      November 17, 2016 8:26pm
      - mikenmild
        
        If you speak to God, we call it prayer and regard it as a minor eccentricity. If God speaks to you; medication is probably required.
        
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        November 17, 2016 8:31pm
    - mikenmild
      
      nasska’s conversation with God could go a bit like this:
      ‘So, if you exist, how can you prove it’, says nasska
      `I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’
      `But,’ says nasska, `The human eye is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.’
      `Oh dear,’ says God, `I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
      
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      November 17, 2016 8:38pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        From the Kiwiblog archives:
        
        Scott to Pete George
        Thanks for quoting me Pete George. By the way I missed your answer to my question. When you die which way are you going, up or down? The evidence of changed lives when people accept Christ? The testimonies of God’s goodness through answered prayer? I could introduce you personally to 50 people tomorrow morning who will testify to you about what God has done in their lives. …
        
        Nasska to Scott
        I’ll see your God and I’ll raise you 3 Easter Bunnies and 1 Yeti.
        
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        November 17, 2016 9:00pm
- mikenmild
  
  I believe we have one or two comments on Kiwiblog from people who think the Christchurch earthquakes were connected with a military exercise.
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:15pm
- EAD
  
  This “Elle” has some, how shall we say it – “interesting ideas”!
  
  Whilst this sounds a bit far-fetched, how quickly we forget though:
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/8649223/Mossad-spy-ring-unearthed-because-of-Christchurch-earthquake.html
  
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  November 17, 2016 8:44pm
  - mikenmild
    
    This earthquake has all the hallmarks of a Mossad plot.
    
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    November 17, 2016 8:53pm
    - nasska
      
      I bet the sneaky bastards built a HAARP station somewhere in the Kaikouras while we weren’t watching Mike.
      
      EAD may be able to locate it before those evil Joos turn their sights on Greymouth!
      
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      November 17, 2016 9:04pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Any suspicious-looking Jews in the north Wairarapa?
        
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        November 17, 2016 9:09pm
      - nasska
        
        Not a yarmulke to be seen Mike. 🙂
        
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        November 17, 2016 9:14pm
      - EAD
        
        Any suspicious-looking Jews in the north Wairarapa?
        
        Particularly ones carrying 5 passports, who photographed the destruction, destroyed incriminating evidence and fled the country in within 12 hours? 🙂
        
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        November 17, 2016 9:16pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Luckily we have ways of checking, even if they use false passports:
        https://nz.pinterest.com/pin/380835712211064748/
        
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        November 17, 2016 9:21pm
      - EAD
        
        Milkenmild,
        
        keep sharing with us your wonderful insights and sterotypes that the limits of your intellectual straightjacket permits you, all safe from the confines of the mental prison you were locked into many moons ago via “state education” and “wanting to conform”.
        
        “The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. “Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does.” They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.”
        
        ― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited
        
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        November 17, 2016 9:29pm
  - EAD
    
    Thanks for the downtick Milkmaid,
    
    I’m suprised though that for mentioning this related fact in a light hearted manner (and this one was in the MSM, albeit the Daily Torahgraph) you didn’t call me an “evil”, “far-right”, “Nazzzzzzzzzzzzzi” who want to send sixxxxx hunnnndred gazzzzzilllllion Jews to the work camps and turn them all into lampshades! 🙂
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBA2zp992c
    
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    November 17, 2016 9:03pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD, are you suggesting those Mossad operatives were carrying with them a portable quake making machine ?
      
      Maybe also the Kumamoto earthquake Japan April this year ?
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Kumamoto_earthquakes
      
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      November 17, 2016 9:06pm
    - mikenmild
      
      We can take all that as read.
      
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      November 17, 2016 9:07pm
stephieboy

Nostradamus, I’d say , Reid , EAD & UT Conspiracy and Paranoid central too.
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November 17, 2016 8:09pm
Nostradamus

Meanwhile, switching gears to cricket, there’s some great Cricinfo commentary on the England v India test match:

2.09pm Dog stopped play. Broad almost requesting the dog to leave. He is proving more stubborn than Pujara. Finally two volunteers see him off

2.10pm And he is back. This is Dog Day Afternoon. Is he an English dog? Eating up time already. One of the volunteers has taken his shoe off to scare the dog. Gnasher chirps in, the dog is moving quicker than Rashid to that catch

2.12pm And hang on. The dog has forced an early tea. I am sure Andy Zaltzman will be able to confirm this is the first time such an act has happened. Gnasher will be here after tea. Not the dog

So, in previous matches, we’ve had rain stops play. We’ve had bad light stops play. Now, in this match, we have dog stops play!
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November 17, 2016 9:50pm
- Brigitte
  
  Still a long way from a burning sofa stopping play at Carisbrook.
  
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  November 17, 2016 10:01pm
Brigitte

If Brian Tamaki is right, how come the earthquake epicentre wasn’t the airport toilet?
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November 17, 2016 9:57pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Brigitte:
  
  If Brian Tamaki is right, then what Stigie describes as “sordid activities” in Hagley Park would ensure that there’s an earthquake in Christchurch every weekend!
  
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  November 17, 2016 10:08pm
  - nasska
    
    I will make sure that the EQC is brought up to speed about that Nostra. Your efforts to save insurance premiums & bring good Christian standards of behaviour to the Hagley Park Toilets will not go unrewarded. 🙂
    
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    November 17, 2016 10:19pm
BeeSting

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/11/carr_anti_trump_protesters_the_real_deplorables

Really well written article

Some Quotes from it

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I beseech you snowflakes. Put down your therapy puppies and your Molotov cocktails.

President-elect Trump has asked me to personally reassure you that he has no plans to compel anyone to actually get jobs in this new post-Trumpocalaypse America.

but here are some of the things President-elect Trump won’t be doing:

He won’t be suing lesbian bakers who refuse to bake cakes for Christian weddings.

He won’t be threatening to cut off federal funds to states like Massachusetts that have proudly opened women’s bathrooms to Levels 2 and 3 male sex offenders — Trump is a proponent of state’s rights, believe it or not.

He won’t use the IRS to revoke or delay the tax-exempt status of progressive nonprofits; there will be no right-wing Lois Lerners conducting PC political persecutions in a Donald Trump administration.

President-elect Trump won’t lie to you that you can keep your doctor, or your health care plan, or save $2,500 on your premiums, when in reality your premiums skyrocket 110 percent, while at the same time you can no longer afford your deductibles.
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