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Viking2

Slow outa bed this morning you lot?
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November 15, 2016 8:03am
Viking2

Chinese Govt, hires all the choppers.
Snowflakes from Britain all upset.
Meanwhile Kiwi’s soldier on.
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November 15, 2016 8:05am
Kimbo

Caught Nick Leggett on Q+A comparing Trump’s decision to include members of his family in his transition team to “a corrupt African dictator handing out rewards”.

Um, Jack and Bobby Kennedy, anyone? 😉
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November 15, 2016 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  Bill appointed Hill to oversee his health care reform.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:11am
- oldpark
  
  Not forgetting the Clintons and Chelsea,as well as her tax dodging husand. Virtually a school for scoundrels.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:14am
- cmm
  
  People don’t understand what a transition team is.
  
  These are not permanent decision making positions.
  
  These are just people – who you trust – helping set up meetings, organise stuff and get the transition in place.
  
  Given how even half og GOP have sabotaged Trump’s efforts, it makes a lot os sense to pull in his family who he has worked with.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:17am
  - Kimbo
    
    Indeed. And as the President-elect needs executive skills they can rely on, they often go to members of the campaign team – some of whom they do later bring into their executive. Nixon did it with Mitchell, Haldeman and Ehrlichman in 1968…fateful choices given what happened when a bunch of Cubans broke into the DNC in 1972 😉
    
    With our Westminster system we sometimes overlook the US President is an 18th Century elected monarch – albeit one with constitutional checks and balances. “I serve at the pleasure of the President” is the determining factor on whether you have a job.
    
    And Trump counts as the biggest Washington-outsider since Jimmy Carter – who was at least a Democrat and so had some initial sympathy in overwhelmingly-Democrat DC. As Trump relies on his family in business, I wouldn’t be surprised if his daughter ends up as his chief-of-staff.
    
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    November 15, 2016 8:57am
  - Kimbo
    
    I should also add that Democrats and the political left-wing just loooooove the idea of an activist, even “Imperial” presidency when it is guys like JFK, LBJ or Obama issuing executive orders.
    
    But when it is a Nixon, Reagan, Bush II or now Trump…it becomes a “dangerous threat to peace and freedom”. 😉
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:09am
  - virtualmark
    
    Agreed.
    
    Trump is basically an independent, rather than a Republican. He spent much of the latter part of the campaign skirmishing with the Republican Party. it wouldn’t surprise if even now he can’t easily tap into the full Party machine.
    
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    November 15, 2016 3:51pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Yes, I’ve come to the conclusion that is the best way to assess him.
      
      Eisenhower, while also a nominal Republican was in effect an Independent (the Democrats at one stage were trying to recruit him as their 1952 candidate). He never bothered to support the party or Republican candidates for congress. Often relied on his vice-President, Nixon, to do the running around to organise the necessary party support. Pence may be delegated to do the same.
      
      And Ike had a successful Presidency, one that is even better in retrospect.
      
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      November 15, 2016 6:02pm
- EAD
  
  Last 4 governors of the Federal Reserve:
  
  Paul Volcker > Alan Greenspan > Benjamin Shalom Bernanke > Janet Yellen?
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:29am
  - howitis
    
    At least Greenspan was capable.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:17am
    - virtualmark
      
      And Volcker wasn’t?
      
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      November 15, 2016 3:52pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Well, (((EAD))), tom hunter has posted it before, but as per Archie Bunker educating his son-in-law in American politics, this is why:
    
    Archie: What’s the matter with this? I call this representative government. You’ve got Salvatori, Feldman, O’Reilly, Nelson–that’s an Italian, a Jew, an Irishman and a regular American there. That’s what I call a balanced ticket.
    
    Meathead: Why do you always have to label people by nationality?
    
    Archie: ‘Cause, how else are you going to get the right man for the right job? For instance, take Feldman there. He’s up for treasurer. Well, that’s perfect. All them people know how to handle money. Know what I mean?
    
    Meathead: No, I don’t.
    
    Archie: Well, then you got Salvatori running for D.A. He can keep an eye on Feldman. You know, I want to tell you something about the Italians. When you do get an honest one, you really got something there.
    
    Meathead: Aw, c’mon, Arch.
    
    Archie: Well, then here you got O’Reilly, the mick. He can see that the graft is equally spread around, you know. You got Nelson, the American guy. He’s good for TV appearances, to make the rest of them look respectable.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:22am
    - Morrissey
      
      Interestingly, Carroll O’Connor (who played Archie Bunker) was actually a thoughtful and liberal thinker, who despised the Republicans. By contrast, Rob Reiner really IS a meathead, and his racist bigotry makes Archie Bunker look like a Green Party-voting vegan peacenik.
      
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      November 16, 2016 10:35am
oldpark

The right place at the right time. Our man for all reasons and seasons Prime Minister of NZ John Key has taken charge of the devastating destruction left after the 7.5 massive earthquake to places like Kaikoura. There he was in the middle of the destruction assessing the damage in Kaikoura area.,and talking to the most affected, reassuring them that complete help, and assisstance was on its way.NZ has been most fortunate to have such a dedicated PM and such a caring person as well. Talk about “Johnny” on the spot,there will never be such an appropiate saying,or adage.
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November 15, 2016 8:10am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And even better, our hero’s now off the hook for spending the surplus on tax cuts.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:16am
- PhilBest
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Besides culpable can-kicking and “sitting on hands” on the housing-affordability consequences of eco-Taleban urban planning, the Key government could also have been more responsible about the likely disaster impact risk of “compact cities” on fault lines, not to mention intensified housing on low-lying, liquefiable land. And the appalling inadequacy of the anti-car, “trains first” planning approach.
  
  “Smile and wave”, “don’t scare the horses” (don’t challenge PC orthodoxies) leadership doesn’t create real historical trajectories for your country.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:21am
  - PhilBest
    
    OK, OK, OK, I apologise for the insensitive timing! But not the opinion itself – if that is what people including “centre right” KB followers have a problem with, we are beyond help in this country, and deserve everything we ultimately get.
    
    Nobody has actually “replied”, I notice – so I don’t know what readers problem specifically is. I am just trying to wake people up, that’s all. Perhaps the reality is undeniable but it’s hurtful to raise it…
    
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    November 15, 2016 10:47am
    - tom hunter
      
      I did have to chuckle at all your downticks. Given the number of “Righties” on this blog threatening to vote for Winston next year to “send JK a message”, I’d have expected more support on that front.
      
      It’s very weird: why can’t it be acknowledged that JK has proven to be far superior to his opposition as a political leader – while at the same time acknowledging that part of that success has been a failure to take on tough, meaningful fights that, if won, would do the country a lot of good.
      
      Incidently, given that you were gone from KB for several years, having had a gutsful of much of the tone and “debate”, what’s brought you back here?
      
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      November 15, 2016 12:34pm
      - PhilBest
        
        Just seeing if things have got better or worse with the intervening years.
        
        I think I hereby give up permanently on this country’s “centre right”, I can see the Left has won the culture war, we have had Helen Clark, terms 4, 5 and 6 anyway. The “political wilderness” syndrome Labour is in, is just a clever tactical gambit. They don’t need to be in office anyway.
        
        Appreciate your lonely support, Tom Hunter. Your clarity is a rare thing these days. I suspect some of the others I used to know, have also stopped bothering.
        
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        November 15, 2016 5:55pm
    - Albert_Ross
      
      What was Key supposed to do? He can do only what he can get a Parliamentary majority to agree to, and Parliament has consistently blocked every Government attempt to reform the planning laws. You can thank Peter Dunne and the voters of Northland for that.
      
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      November 15, 2016 1:22pm
      - tom hunter
        
        While that’s true I expected a Wall Street trader, a man with a reputation for striking deals and being “the guy we sent into the room to get it done” (in the words of one his former Wall St compadres) to be able to twist fucking Dunne’s arm to get this done.
        
        I mean it’s Peter Dunne that’s the holdup on RMA reform, is it not? Even after the Northland clusterfuck?
        
        Peter Dunne FFS. (Sorry, I’m having LA Confidential type visions of Key and Brownlee dangling him out of a Beehive window and threatening to shave his head if he doesn’t sign on).
        
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        November 15, 2016 2:39pm
      - mikenmild
        
        You mean that it is Peter Dunne that is holding Key back from all the policies needed to ‘catch up with Australia’?
        
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        November 15, 2016 2:51pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Ĺittle is too scared to pop up catch all phrase of ‘this national government is doing too little too late’
  
  Writing that, I realised that he would be partially right as the national government is doing Little
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:25am
- doggone7
  
  Wow! Let’s confirm the knighthood right now!
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:34am
- Honeybadger
  
  Yes, reassuring people that things would be OK. I saw it too, I saw his mouth moving and it was making promises…..again…..his mouth was lying…..again
  
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  November 15, 2016 1:52pm
PhilBest

Not trying to be dismal or alarmist – but remember the pattern of Christchurch.

Significant quake during the early morning, that did significant damage but the timing was fortunate for human life.

Wake-up call.

Few months later…..?

Has policy making in Wellington, especially the urban planning, EVER really responsibly considered the disaster resilience? In fact the turn the urban planning has taken in more recent times, there is a certain misanthropy to it, the planet must be saved from evil humans, therefore they must not be allowed new affordable suburbs, but must be concentrated in chicken-coop and borg cube housing right on fault lines and in the path of Tsunamis.

Not to mention the Kafka-esque lack of road space, so that even a 3am Tsunami warning causes gridlock on arterial roads. Of course the proles should catch a train to safety.
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November 15, 2016 8:12am
Paulus

Sad about those affected by the Earthquake. I wish them well.
I assume we will now hear via the media the wailes and bitching from those who are attempting to get as much as they can from EQC – the real villains.
When will EQC revert to what it used to do which was to say to the householders get a builder and we will pay them direct up to the statutory $100,000 limit. It is up to the property owners to take responsibility with their Insurance Company for excess of the statutory limits.
EQC are not responsible for employing builders – they have a policy of indemnification – eg pay for repairs – none of this stupidity following Christchurch of becoming a builder.
Who changed the rules over this ?
Treasury I expect – political expediency.
Who is going to pay for the uninsured buildings ?
Are we the taxpayers going to find that we are going to take over those costs again ?
Infrastructure, I am happy to subsidised the Councils for this – this a Council/Government responsibility.
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November 15, 2016 8:13am
sooty

The rain certainly does not help after the country gets munted!
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November 15, 2016 8:16am
- alex Masterley
  
  The forecast for Thursday suggests snow in the Kaikoura area!
  What fun.
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:57am
waikatogirl

Many leaders around the world phoned JK to offer NZ assistance after the earthquake, including an attempt by Donald Trump to reach the PM. Perhaps he will try phoning John again today?

It is good to hear from JK that NZ is in a good financial position so was able to decline the kind offer from world leaders for their offered assistance.
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November 15, 2016 8:18am
- holysheet
  
  David little would have taken all these offers and still asked for more. Their abysmal financial management would have left the economy a basketcase.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:41am
  - waikatogirl
    
    NZ might have the finances to pay the $b’s of dollars for repairing the earthquake damage, but there is an amazing amount of roading infrastructure to repair.
    
    Is it possible NZ could accept international assistance in rebuilding our roading infrastructure so our transport industry can get moving as soon as possible?
    
    On the otherhand, NZ companies do have plenty of experience rebuilding our roads, and there will be plenty of money to be made in the process.
    
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    November 15, 2016 8:50am
  - Gabby
    
    Ponyboy will just borrow a bit more. No drama.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:12pm
- Honeybadger
  
  As I said above, Key’s mouth was moving, so it was telling porkies, again!
  
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  November 15, 2016 1:56pm
Keeping Stock

A couple of months ago there was a proposal released publicly that has been under investigation since 2010. The proposal is to establish a ferry link between Whanganui and Motueka; check this out:

A bold plan to start up a ferry service between Whanganui and Motueka could make make major savings in both time and money for those needing an inter-island link.

Whanganui businessman Neville Johnson set up Midwest Ferries in October 2010, and has been investigating a roll-on, roll-off ferry service for the past six years.

He told the Chronicle that recent discussions with major industries shifting freight between both islands had confirmed for him that a service was viable.

He reckons a start-up fund of $50 million would make it happen. That would cover the dredging, land reclamation, vessel leasing, infrastructure, costs of employing 20 shore staff and administration costs.

Moving inter-island freight is an expensive business but Mr Johnson said his investigations showed that a Whanganui-Motueka link would cut hours off trucking times which, in turn, meant financial savings for companies.

While the Whanganui ferry link has been flagged before, he has taken a different approach.

“No one had gone to the marketplace – the transport industry especially – to assess their interest in a shipping service through Whanganui to the South Island,” Mr Johnson said.

Using the Whanganui District Council-owned port at Castlecliff would not need any ratepayer contribution, he said. In broad terms his idea is to dredge seven metres depth in the port and through the harbour entrance.

The southern terminal would be through Motueka’s waterfront, and the same issues would need to be overcome there – creating a serviceable depth in that port and reclaiming much needed land behind the wharf to handle the vehicles coming on and off the ferry.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=11716153

It’s very early days yet with this proposal, but the Government has already committed to a proposal to upgrade of Whanganui’s port precinct, so the timing of the ferry proposal in advantageous. And the events of the last 36 hours have shown that the freight route across Cook Strait and along the east coast of the South Island is vulnerable.

This could well be a visionary idea for which the time has come as a result of yesterday’s massive earthquake. It certainly merits further investigation.
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November 15, 2016 8:19am
- simpleton1
  
  and/or up to New Plymouth
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:26am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Much less viable simpleton1; to get to the port of New Plymouth is a much longer sea journey around Cape Egmont. From Whanganui however, it’s a direct route across to Motueka
    
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    November 15, 2016 8:31am
    - simpleton1
      
      It would bear investigation, to consider New Plymouth as perhaps other points for and against may be thought of. Even to be an emergency port in certain storms.
      I am aware the New Plymouth is not a perfect port either with the surge and tides.
      
      Yes a bit further to get around the Cape Egmont, and still further on the journey for some, if the destination is more north.
      
      Wanganui would always be a bar harbour, which at some times, with certain weather conditions could be dangerous, even if dredged out.
      
      If using a bar harbour is ok as boats would be not be drawing a great depth, then Manakau Harbour also be ok.
      My preference is to then head down the largest channel in the Manukau and establish a green fields port of one of the peninsulas down towards Waiuku way, where still reasonably deep water. (Not suitable for large deep draft ocean going vessels)
      
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      November 15, 2016 8:51am
    - simpleton1
      
      The Manakau/Waiuku Port idea is a step too far.
      I did wonder a bit about it a few years ago, when protests about petroleum, lpg, gas, etc. tank farms in Auckland as those products could be shipped in by coastal vessels (designed with a shallow draft) that can negotiate bar harbours.
      A tank farm would then be safer being further away from a population, and safety zoning would prohibit a residency build up.
      
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      November 15, 2016 9:34am
- sooty
  
  Backup for when the Cook strait ferries can not run too!
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:27am
- Ross12
  
  KS I assume the truckers would go down the coast and then over to ChCH and Dunedin etc. I haven’t been down that way for a long time but will those roads cope with all the trucks ? It should be boom for tourists ( camper vans etc.)
  Also would the Wanaganui river mouth require continuous dredging like in the old days ?
  I’m not being negative , just curious —like you I think it is well worth further investigation.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:31am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I’m sure some ongoing dredging would be required Ross, but that would all be factored in to the overall cost. Q-West Boatbuilders has just signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the Whanganui District Council to be the anchor tenant of the redeveloped port precinct, and there have been several very well attended public forums over the port revitalisation as a whole. The timing for Midwest Ferries could not be more advantageous; at the Whanganui end, at least.
    
    More information from the WDC here – http://www.whanganui.govt.nz/our-council/news-media/media-releases/Pages/default.aspx?newsItem=8771
    
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    November 15, 2016 8:37am
- nasska
  
  Keeping Stock
  
  The Wanganui part I understand but why on planet Earth would you have Motueka as the other terminal? As Nelson/Golden Bay has no rail & crappy road access it may be seen as a captive, if limited, market.
  
  Why not Wanganui/Lyttelton?
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:40am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Why not Wanganui/Lyttelton? That’s a route that makes no sense nasska. The whole aim of this plan is to REDUCE travelling time, especially for the road transport industry. Whanganui/Lyttleton would be a 12-hours plus journey, with the added complication of traversing east to west or west to east via Cook Strait.
    
    It’s my understanding that this proposal is designed to have road traffic head down the West Coast then through the Lewis Pass and Springs Junction. From there, it’s a pretty straightforward run (earthquakes excepted) on to Christchurch.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:10am
    - nasska
      
      My point is that once a freight vehicle is loaded onto a RORO ship there are not a lot of additional costs. The only figure I can find for sea distance from Wanganui to Wellington is 82 nautical miles which a modern ship should cover in 4 – 5 hours, maybe less. Wgtn/Chch is 165 nm so the whole journey could be covered as an overnight service.
      
      It’s certainly not my sphere of expertise but it could be worth costing the proposal in the light of the massive outlay involved in restoring the Kaikoura railway.
      
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      November 15, 2016 9:29am
    - Ed Snack
      
      From Motueka you’d be headed down the “back” road through to Tapawera and Golden Downs to Highway 6, then Murchison, left onto Highway 65 to Springs Junction and then Lewis Pass and out to Culverden and Highway 1.
      
      Nowhere near the West Coast unless you were diverted (as you probably would be now) to Arthur’s Pass. Also a hell of a lot longer route and not one particularly suited to Trucks though it could work.
      
      The Port of Mouteka is hardly equipped to take anything bigger than a large launch as of now, can’t see it easily (or cheaply) upgraded. It’s shallow, with tight entrance and quite unsuitable for a large craft. Only good side is that it isn’t a particularly active entrance so if dredged out it would probably need less maintenance dredging. Plus a much longer sea trip that most people are happy to get over and done with anyway, Cook Strait is particularly bad, but the Tasman is hardly any better.
      
      Have to say it looks like complete pie in the sky stuff to me. Might address a small local market I suppose.
      
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      November 15, 2016 9:35am
- VicParking
  
  Its a bit of pie in the sky. Tourists and local passangers wont make it viable they will need FRIEGHT! Whanganui is not the easist place to get to, not on main trunk line and roadways north a bit windy and narrow. I however wish them luck but hope that once again Ratepayers will not be stuck with paying for another of councils grandiose ideas.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:50am
  - trout
    
    The proposed ferry terminal further down the east coast as proposed by NZR looks to be a better aletrnative to rebuilding the blenheim-Ch Ch line.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:09am
    - virtualmark
      
      Ah trout, have you been looking on the map at where all these earthquakes are centred?
      
      Geonet like to use terms like “20km east of Seddon”. In reality they are right under the proposed Clifford Bay terminal. If that terminal had actually been built it’d be toast today.
      
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      November 15, 2016 3:57pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    It’s not a council proposal VicParking. Midwest Ferries is a private company, and the shareholders would be seeking private investment capital. And Johnson has already consulted the trucking industry:
    
    He said a Whanganui-Motueka ferry would work because it cuts hours of travel time for transport companies.
    
    “We’re looking at a ferry 135 metres and drawing about 5.5 metres. You’d get a maximum of 40 truck and trailer units on a vessel that big.”
    
    But it’s not just trucks. Midwest Ferries would target campervans, cars and passenger fares.
    
    “We reckon 28,000 crossings a year makes it viable. A crossing in this instance is one vehicle going one way.”
    
    Six years ago Mr Johnson canvassed the transport industry (he was secretary of the Road Transport Engineers Institute for some time) and said the response was overwhelming.
    
    “On the basis of that work we had 42,000 indicative crossings from about 80 transport industry operators.”
    
    A Whanganui link cuts four hours off travel time for trucks going from Auckland to Christchurch, over Cook Strait through Wellington and Picton.
    
    “The saving that brings for the industry is massive – and this is before we looking seriously at tourist buses, campervans and the like, attracting vehicles down State Highway 4 rather than State Highway 1.”
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:13am
    - virtualmark
      
      But if the idea is to reduce (road) travel time for trucks going from Auckland to Christchurch then why don’t either the Bluebridge or Interislander offer a Wellington-Lyttleton service?
      
      It’s a genuine question … why doesn’t someone offer an overnight Wellington-Lyttleton ferry service?
      
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      November 15, 2016 3:59pm
- RF
  
  Great idea but I believe it should bypass Motueka and go to Lyttelton.
  
  The coast road south of Kaikoura will take many years to replace / repair and will eventually finish up as a first class scenic highway.
  
  I have driven along there 100s of times pre earthquake and although scenic it’s a right bastard with its tight corners etc….
  
  Not suitable for truck/trailers.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:24am
kowtow

Pisses me off the media luvvies and left wing pollies calling the looters scumbags and lowest of the low.

They forget that they’re the ones who bemoan our incarceration rates etc.

Hypocrites.
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November 15, 2016 8:23am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Quite so kowtow; and yesterday mikenmild dismissed DPF’s condemnation of a journalist’s admission of stealing from a supermarket as “a silly blog post”.
  
  They’ll slag off the looters because everyone with even a shred of decency is doing likewise. But when it’s one of their own, the silence is deafening.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:29am
pdm

Paulus 8.13.

You overlooked the wailing from the uninsured who expect the EQC to bail them out as well.

Pay the premiums if you want the benefits in times of disaster.
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November 15, 2016 8:26am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  This earthquake will be a really gift for a lot of our “vulnerable families” as they will be able to try and milk sympathy from a variety of government agencies and the public and have a good old bludge.
  Meanwhile all the insured and other “lucky” people will be a lower priority as they will be quietly working away to fix things instead of moaning and whinging to the media.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:44am
Manolo

Another diva, a veteran one, moans:
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/798192678785716224
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November 15, 2016 8:37am
lessparty

Any bets on how long before the Greens propose a ban on earthquakes and s special tax to pay for repairs?
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November 15, 2016 8:37am
- VicParking
  
  Caused by global warming and CO2 levels
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:52am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Other suspects are frackers or those evil dairy farmers and their polluting cows upsetting the
    “mana” of the land.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:02am
- kowtow
  
  Which is the proven threat to New Zealand and indeed the planet, the global warming scam or tectonic plate movements?
  
  What is the issue the MSM constantly bang on about?
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:03am
- cmm
  
  Kaikoura’s problems are caused by the whales.
  
  Proof: Didn’t have any shit like this when Kaikoura was a whaling port.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:09am
  - kowtow
    
    Used to be a place of great food resources before the coming of evil whitey.
    
    ” In 1829 Te Rauparaha again crossed to the South Island, this time to avenge an insult paid Te Rangihaeata by Kekerengu, a Ngati Ira chief who had taken refuge with the Ngai Tahu at Kaikoura. The Ngati Toa landed at Wairau and went overland to Kaikoura. The Ngai Tahu had, however, heard of their coming and fled southwards. They were overtaken at Omihi, where they were attacked and defeated with great slaughter.”
    
    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/1966/maori-tribal-history/page-4
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:48am
- Keeping Stock
  
  They already have lessparty:
  
  Greens: Nation to pay quake levy
  
  By NZ Herald staff
  12:00 PM Thursday Nov 10, 2011
  
  The Green Party would push for a nationwide earthquake levy if they became government.
  
  The Greens announcement in Christchurch today would see the levy used as a dedicated revenue stream to pay for the Christchurch rebuild.
  
  Party leader Dr Russel Norman said the fund is a priority for his party this election.
  
  “The Green Party is the only party proposing a dedicated revenue stream that will be ring-fenced and used exclusively for the rebuild of Christchurch,” Dr Norman said.
  
  “We consider that the fastest, fairest, and most economically sensible way to rebuild the livelihoods of those in Christchurch is to introduce a temporary earthquake levy on those who can most afford it.
  
  The last paragraph quoted was the scariest one; another Greens tax-the-rich-pricks policy.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:21am
  - howitis
    
    This is straight from Aussie policy.
    Oz have these for disasters and to fund wars like East Timor and the George Bush wars.
    eg 1.25 % tax if on over 70k pa.
    Since Greenies don’t read this blog they will never find out such precedent.
    
    and…
    ‘if they became government’
    > They turn down every opportunity to compromise so la la talk.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:44am
- howitis
  
  Better labelling for earthquakes.
  Must be GE Free.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:37am
Manolo

Trump lookalikes ought to be careful around Mt Roskill:
https://www.rt.com/viral/366847-swedish-chef-donald-trump/

A Swedish chef was reportedly assaulted by three Muslim men who punched and kicked him in the face and head, sending him to the emergency room. Writing about the assault on Facebook, he said he was attacked because he looked like Donald Trump.

The assault apparently took place at a fast food grill in Malmo at 4:25 Saturday morning, according to Sydsvenskan newspaper.
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November 15, 2016 8:39am
- Inandout
  
  He looks nothing like Trump, but he is white so a natural target for Muslim thugs. Is this assault akin to the Muslim ‘sexual urgency’ excuse for rape syndrome?
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:37am
- EAD
  
  I don’t blame the Muslims Manolo, they merely are the end product that the elites are imposing on Sweden in order to destroy it.
  
  Jump on you tube and look for Barbara Lerner Spectre
  
  Have a look at this – there is a whole apparatus from Media to big business to academia through to the the Politicians ensuring that this “change” occurs despite the objections of the Swedes themselves:
  
  https://redice.tv/red-ice-radio/sweden-get-ready-for-the-collapse
  
  abridged
  
  As the new Prime Minister relentlessly pushes for Sweden to ‘take responsibility’ for the refugees that are flooding into Europe, a collective cognitive dissonance prevents Swedes from grasping the full reality of inviting the perils of Islam to an already crowded and dysfunctional doorstep. Conrad underscores how the good intentions of politically correct Swedes are being exploited by Muslims with serious superiority complexes and a deep disdain for Westerners. We consider why law enforcement has been stunted and corrupted by fear, while an extreme climate of conformity keeps citizens from rising up and fighting the insanity, and how the mainstream media drives this senselessness with emotionally driven propaganda.
  
  In the second half, we look at the programmed complacency and White guilt that hijacks any legitimate journalism from exposing the terrible truths surrounding Sweden’s dispossession and transformation to a multicultural society. We discuss how conflict is being manufactured to divide the unifying cultural fabric of Sweden, creating a land Ingrid calls Absurdistan, which encourages citizens and immigrants alike to nurse from an ineffective welfare and benefits system. We talk about the self-hating, neo-religious crusade that is propelling a political dialogue touting that Swedes don’t exist as a native people, and how this loss of faith is hurdling the nation towards a full on disaster. Then, we weigh up what it will take for Sweden to unite and fight to preserve and maintain the successful, functioning society that has attracted so many foreigners to line up for a piece of the pie.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:39am
sooty

What’s Sullen Cullen up to?
Main speaker at the Labour conference!
Kiwisaver conpulsory. Double contributions!
Is he going to rise from the the dead?
For Labour to except him back into the fold, will he have to hand back his knighthood?
What role would he have? Leader?
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November 15, 2016 8:43am
- oldpark
  
  @Sooty
  
  John Key gave Sullen Cullen a top job with the Post Office,after 8 years, he is now redundant. In typical Leibour-party fashion, C ullen has returned to the party that National gave a massive beating to in 2008. Talk about biting the hand that fed him. He was only given the job,because John Key felt sorry for him. Seems John Key forgot.” Never give a loser an even break”.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:13am
Captain Mainwaring

Looks like the inland route from Kaikoura to Culverden will be ready for action by the weekend.
Perhaps the long term (and cheaper) solution is to progressively upgrade this road over the next 3-4 years and turn it into SH1. Abandon the wrecked coastal road south of Kaikoura (and maybe the railway line as well).
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November 15, 2016 8:47am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Yet again another natural disaster highlights NZ has a 3rd World transport system. A shitty country road passed off as THE main highway, lol.
  
  If this was Japan or California you would be able to hop on a dual carriage express way in Kaitia and drive all the way to Invercargill with only a single break at Cook Straight.
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:56am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    And now The goat track known as SH1 is completely blocked by a slip at Pukerua Bay.
    Come in Marquess, tell us again we don’t need Transmission Gully.
    
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    November 15, 2016 8:59am
  - cmm
    
    It all comes down to two things:
    
    A) What you need.
    
    We don’t have the traffic volumes to justify a multi-lane highway. Besides, those multilane highways don’t work so well when choked with all that traffic. Try the 101 between Silicon Valley and San Francisco at rush hour 5 lanes each way of traffic jam!
    
    B) What you’re prepared to pay for.
    
    Japan and California have over 10 times the population of NZ. That’s 10 times more pockets to tax to pay for roads. Are you willing to pay 200% tax to get freeways we don’t need.
    
    Oh, btw, those multilane freeways also get broken by earthquakes….
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:17am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Nins Bins 🙁 Need my cray fix from somewhere
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:05am
- Ed Snack
  
  Not a silly idea, but a hell of a commitment. Maybe we should start further North though and go up the Awatere Valley from Seddon via Molesworth and eventually Jolies Pass to Hamner. The Inland route still uses the coastal route to Kaikoura and that’s just as bad (or worse) than the road South of Kaikoura.
  
  Be an even bigger task though; a lot is fairly open and not high value land. There’s the small pass between the Awatere and Acheron Rivers to cross, then the much harder Jolies Pass (or use the alternative Clarence Valley Road).
  
  Think long term !
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:46am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I thought of that one Ed but it would be a huge job as there is no formed road there, just a 4WD track. And taking Kaikoura of the tourist map would not go down well with the locals.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:52am
- virtualmark
  
  Except …
  
  (1) there are no easy terrain options for a road from Picton to Christchurch. All the options will have to contend with chokepoints at some stage.
  
  (2) there are no easy seismic options for a road from Picton to Christchurch. All the options will cross multiple fault lines.
  
  (3) building a wholly new road isn’t affordable.
  
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  November 15, 2016 4:05pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Feminists forced a “gender equal” snow clearing system on Stockholm.

Total chaos results.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/14/gender-equal-snow-removal-policy/

Feminist squealed “Misogyny! Oppression!” when snow clearing focused on roads first, pedestrian pathways second. Feminist “reasoning” goes – females walk more often than men and were more likely to injure themselves as a result of slips because road snow clearing was prioritised, ergo “RAPE!”.

Feminists forced Stockholm to prioritise pavement snow clearing resulting in traffic chaos, and the delay of emergency services around the city.

Feminism is toxic wherever it becomes culturally dominant and extremely corrosive to social and political institutions – e g high divorce rates, “the accusation is the evidence” rape trials. Sweden keeps proving to be the perfect exemplar of this.

Expect the man haters to only double down on their dogma, they will accuse the seasons of being sexist next.

NZ feminists are aiming for and incrementally achieving the same kind of destructive influence here.
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November 15, 2016 8:48am
- EAD
  
  Indeed Jazz Hands,
  
  thanks for bringing up the Cultural Marxist topic of (((Frankfurt School))) inspired Feminism.
  
  First we had 1st and 2nd wave feminism that was about “empowering women”, telling them to sleep around and never settle down to have children.
  
  So these women, instead of being first rate women, effectively became 2nd rate men. I see the sad effects of this now as tired old childless hags in their late 30’s who, not wanting a man whilst they were in the prime of their life, missed the boat and now live lifes of bitter resentment – 99% supporting radical leftwing views as they support the system that so destroyed them.
  
  Then we had 3rd wave feminism with it’s pushing of “rape culture” (Remember Pete George on here!), trying to scare off females from normal teenage behaviour so that all (particularly white) males are viewed as wannabe rapists.
  
  This fourth-wave feminism though that has arrived is the most destructive with its message that Whites are evil and that White women should “Shut the fuck up” because they are “oppressors”.
  
  Here is Jewish Actress Lena Dunham (remember the one who tweeted she wants all straight white men dead – although I’m assuming she doesn’t mean her tribe…) with her nice cuddly views:
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/11/11/lena-dunham-blames-self-hating-white-women-violent-privilege-trump-victory/
  
  “It’s painful to know that white women, so unable to see the unity of female identity, so unable to look past their violent privilege, and so inoculated with hate for themselves, showed up to the polls for him, too”
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:10am
  - EAD
    
    Here’s a good article from Morgoth on the subject of feminism and it’s poisonous effects with reference to the German mass rapes.
    
    http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2016/04/analysis-of-feminists-migrant-fairy-tale.html
    
    Throughout the article Laurie has repeatedly attempted to cast men in general, regardless of race or religion, as the enemy, while at the same time casting aspersions on White men as aggressors, as the power to be contained. There’s obviously an element of the Cultural Marxist’s hatred for White people here and their own need not be ”racist”. But there’s something more, the feminist activist simply cannot admit that one group of men are more barbaric than another because it has lethal ramifications for how they view the world.
    
    Yep – just like the Marxists duped the Labour Movement and road the working class train in order to get into power…..then promptly spat them out…….. we can now see from the likes of Dunham and (((Laurie Penny))) – that they’ll throw the “sisterhood” to the lions now that they have outlived their usefulness is helping set up their Bolshevik New World Order.
    
    https://twitter.com/PennyRed/status/796311733065355264
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:30am
  - tom hunter
    
    … his signature physical gesture was to raise his right arm, crooked at the elbow, until his forefinger was about at eye-level, almost like a salute, and then he would utter the immortal line – “It’s de Joos”.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:57am
    - EAD
      
      3….2….1…
      
      any day now, any day, Tom & MM will address the points I’ve raised.
      
      Go on, tell us all about the founders of the Frankfurt School, and Lena Dunham and Noel Ignatiev. I’m all ears 🙂
      
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      November 15, 2016 10:05am
      - tom hunter
        
        Your “points” are simply the same old points about the Jews created over a hundred years ago – or more – dressed up in new clothes called “Frankfurt School” and “Lena Dunham”. Every single one of the points that you excitedly raise as “new”, I heard thirty years ago from a then 90 year old Jew hater.
        
        You’re simply too ignorant of history and too emotionally wrapped up in your “new” exciting discoveries to realise how often people like me have met this before. You may be youngish but your points and “argument” are not new and fresh: they’re old and boring.
        
        There’s a good reason that Orwell chose Emmanuel Goldstein as his figure of endless targeted hatred. He was thinking of people like you.
        
        But go on – give us another of your Churchill quotes that can only be traced to Stormfront and the Alt-right/Nazi echo chambers they bounce around. The morons who created it could not even spell Fulton.
        
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        November 15, 2016 10:16am
      - EAD
        
        Your “points” are simply the same old points about the Jews created over a hundred years ago – or more – dressed up in new clothes called “Frankfurt School” and “Lena Dunham”. Every single one of the points that you excitedly raise as “new”, I heard thirty years ago from a then 90 year old Jew hater.
        
        You’re simply too ignorant of history and too emotionally wrapped up in your “new” exciting discoveries to realise how often people like me have met this before. You may be youngish but your points and “argument” are not new and fresh: they’re old and boring.
        
        The thing is though Tom, these points aren’t just over 100 years old, they are thousands of years old – going all the way back to biblical times. The whole raison d’etre of Jesus was to show the Jews the errors of their ways.
        
        What is the error of their ways? Well, they’ve got an extremely long record of taking advantage of Christian societies welcoming of them and ultimately destroying this reciprocity by undermining and para siting of their hosts. It is why they have been expelled by 108 different countries throughout their history. Rather than being “old and boring tripes”, they are in fact extremely interesting and worthy of study especially when history these days seems to consist of nothing much other than how evil Whitey is – Slavery, Nazzzzism, Colonialism (but hardly any mention of Bolshevism though)
        
        Chief amongst the gripes of Gentile societies has always been the Jews practising usury which is expressly forbidden in Christian scripture. This is why Jesus kicked them out of the Temple and called them the Synagogue of Satan
        
        Go take a look at clauses 10 & 11 of Magna Carta signed in 1215 that dealt with then tiny Jewish population of Britain and their economic malfeasance:
        
        * (10) If anyone who has borrowed a sum of money from Jews dies before the debt has been repaid, his heir shall pay no interest on the debt for so long as he remains under age, irrespective of whom he holds his lands. If such a debt falls into the hands of the Crown, it will take nothing except the principal sum specified in the bond.
        
        * (11) If a man dies owing money to Jews, his wife may have her dower and pay nothing towards the debt from it. If he leaves children that are under age, their needs may also be provided for on a scale appropriate to the size of his holding of lands. The debt is to be paid out of the residue, reserving the service due to his feudal lords. Debts owed to persons other than Jews are to be dealt with similarly.
        
        You also write
        
        There’s a good reason that Orwell chose Emmanuel Goldstein as his figure of endless targeted hatred.
        
        You do realise Orwell went out to fight in the Spanish Civil War with noble ideas of defending democracy & combating fascism but quickly came to realise it was all baloney. He was able to see who was really behind the “Internationalists” and profiting from the misery.
        
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        November 15, 2016 9:02pm
      - EAD
        
        Tom, I notice you conveniently? missed out Orwells famous quote:
        
        “War Against a Foreign Country Only Happens When the Moneyed Classes Think They Are Going to Profit From It”
        
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        November 15, 2016 9:09pm
      - mikenmild
        
        If it’s been over 2,000 years, and we still haven’t sorted out the Jewish problem, how likely is that you Nazis will come up with a solution now?
        
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        November 15, 2016 9:17pm
      - EAD
        
        Any actual rebuttal to my points MM?
        
        Or just more slander and emotionalisation of valid points?
        
        And when you talk about “solution”, I assume you don’t mean the solution to the “Gentile problem” and how to deal with that do you?
        
        I.e. after being kicked out of so many countries for abusing their hospitality, what better way to destroy said Christian nations once and for all by drowning them in fake debt, 3rd world immigration, feminsim, Bolshevism/class warfare, entertainment, pan-sexualism, miscegination, trans-genderism, hate speech and the destruction of Christianity to be replaced with rootless Materialism & Consumerism?
        
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        November 15, 2016 9:19pm
      - mikenmild
        
        That’s a lot of isms for one group to be behind.
        
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        November 15, 2016 9:29pm
- kowtow
  
  Change is coming. The more the elites allow our culture and nations to be degraded by mass and especially Muslim immigration , the more people will react. Even in so called liberal “multicultural” Sweden.
  
  “What seems to be a minority view in public might be a majority view in private. There are some things that we don’t want to tell even our closest friends, and those things are often tied to nationalism and views on immigrants, especially if they are negative,”
  
  http://www.thelocal.se/20161114/sd-could-break-the-20-percent-barrier-in-the-next-election
  
  There are a number of important elections or votes coming up in Europe to watch out for, Dec 4 referendum in Italy and March 2017 GE in Holland.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:21am
greybeard

I think it is time for the Wellington-to-Lyttelton ferries to be resurrected.
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November 15, 2016 8:50am
Happychappy

Have MSM or the poor come out and said it John Key’s fault over the the earthquake for heaping more misery on the unfortunate and ignoring climate change
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November 15, 2016 8:51am
- VicParking
  
  The surplus has caused the south alps to become unstable causing the earthquakes
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:54am
  - trout
    
    Unfortunately Ken Ring is indisposed otherwise he would be able to explain how the closeness of the New Moon has triggered the earthquake.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:12am
- itstricky
  
  Judging by the above, I’d say it’s the (((feminists’))) fault, to be honest.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:22am
- Gabby
  
  No, which must be crappy for a chappy like you. You’ll be sure to find something to bitch and whine about though, won’t you?
  
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  November 15, 2016 5:33pm
Morrissey

So why CAN’T they be friends? After all, things weren’t
always so unpleasant between Donald and Hillary.

It will enhance your experience of reading this New York Times article if you listen to the YouTube clip at the same time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/magazine/when-hillary-and-donald-were-friends.html?WT.mc_id=D-NYT-MKTG-MOD-39822-1112-HD&WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_c=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FfJ89rGPc
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November 15, 2016 9:00am
itstricky

So why CAN’T they be friends? After all, things weren’t
always so unpleasant between Donald and Hillary.

Day 1: “Obama’s a nice man”
Day 2: “Hillary has worked really hard for her country”
Day 3: “Some of that healthcare thing is kinda OK”
Day 4: “It’s not so much a wall; more of a fence-wall-fence thing – and I know construction, so I know fence-walls when I see them”
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November 15, 2016 9:08am
publicwatchdog

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Know about this Kiwibloggers?

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1611/S00122/a-massive-march-for-peace.htm

A big turnout is expected for a March for Peace on Saturday November 19th at 2pm, starting from the Town Hall, Queen St, and organised by “People for Peace”.

(This is an agreed complementary event to those organised by Auckland Peace Action, in the ‘Week of Peace Action’.)

Penny Bright
‘Anti-privatisation / anti-corruption a Public Watchdog’.
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November 15, 2016 9:28am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray and Walk Away
  Rubbish stays
  I walk away
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:36am
- simpleton1
  
  The disc is worn out on that angle grinder.
  The electrics are dubious too with the screeching
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:37am
- Nostradamus
  
  Thanks for the advance notice Penny. We’ll arrange for water cannons and soap detergent to be deployed on Saturday.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:37am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Upgrade to rubber bullets and stun grenades.
    
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    November 15, 2016 10:07am
- Jack5
  
  You’re not a bloody peacenik as well, are you Penny Dull?
  
  What good do a bunch of peaceniks accomplish by marching around in the main city in what are probably the world’s most remote islands?
  
  Sell your bloody house before the bubble pops, pay your bills, then settle in a nice warm village near the sea, Penny.
  
  Awaiting you are pottery, chardonnay socialist soirées, and if you become bored, the illegal thrills of brie lifting from the village Four Square.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:37am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Why don’t you promote a protest march demanding Auckland Council take action against rates-avoiders Penny. Sheesh; even I would come up for the weekend for that!
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:38am
- SteveRemmington
  
  March for Peace?
  
  What’s the bet it turns into a punch up and the ne’er-do-wells kicking in windows and torching cars.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:46am
  - SteveRemmington
    
    Boom!
    
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/non-violent-protest-at-auckland-weapons-conference-erupts-in-fracas-2016111609
    
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    November 16, 2016 10:28am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  No doubt this will just be another excuse for some more Anti-Americanism, led by the usual suspects Bradford, Bright, Minto (if someone pays his fare from Chch) etc.
  Best avoided.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:56am
- alex Masterley
  
  Paid those rates yet?
  Anyway I will be out and about with my sons looking at the ships of the various navy’s that have assembled in Auckland to recognise ours.
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:07am
  - Komata
    
    Alex, thank you;. I’d forgotten that the fleet’s in town (for the RNZN’s 75th Anniversary)- and of that fleet only one specific vessel is worthy of SJW attention. A certain navel vessel belonging to the United States of America, USS Sampson. Presumably because the ships owner has nuclear weapons.
    
    We are of course assured by Penelope that she is an ‘equal opportunity ‘ protester, and because of that we can reasonably expect a large protest to be mounted in front of the CNS Yang Cheng, since China is also an ‘owner’ of nuclear weapons.
    
    At least, that is what SHOULD be happening (in the interests of ‘fairness’) but, as we know, it won’t be.
    
    Which raises an interesting point IMHO.
    
    Since it is really bad form to protest against one of your own, by not doing-so does that mean that our supposedly ‘independent’ Penelope get her orders from Bejing….?
    
    And if she does, will they pay her rates?
    
    One wonders….
    
    (Enjoy your ship visits BTW Alex; they’re always fun times)
    
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    November 15, 2016 2:21pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Komata:
      
      Recently, in Australia, Labor senator Sam Dastyari (a self-styled corporate corruption crusader – a bit like Penny) was found to have engaged in questionable practices himself.
      
      Mr Dastyari asked a company with links to the Chinese Government to pay a $1,670.82 bill. That revelation was bad enough. But then we learnt that other Chinese-linked companies had assisted Mr Dastyari with his personal expenses, including legal bills and entertainment and travel costs.
      
      Things became even more farcical when Labor Leader Bill Shorten said what Mr Dastyari did was ok. “I am prepared however to give him a second chance because I think he can make a contribution to this country”.
      
      You couldn’t make this up!
      
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      November 15, 2016 4:14pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  March for peace.
  Sounds a good place to crack a few skulls of the people who don’t agree with me.
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:08am
- Ross12
  
  Will Penny be paying US$35/hr like the Soros is paying the protesters/marches in the US?
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:19am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Don’t be ridiculous, paying protestors that much ? It’s $16-$18 max, plus accommodation and travel.
    
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    November 15, 2016 11:46am
    - Ross12
      
      What about the living wage, ED ?
      
      Here is where I got the $35 from —note what is planned for the inauguration.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpeSacBp3Jo
      
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      November 15, 2016 12:02pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  The latest thing playing at the lefty street theatre . . .
  
  Marching for peace – thanks to men who gave their lives during war that you are free to do so.
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:24am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Same sort of protesters as these?
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/08kevv4ua9fjp6v/Protesters.jpg?dl=0
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:51am
- G152
  
  Pay your rates
  
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  November 15, 2016 11:10am
Jack5

Is the tongue infection spreading in Radio NZ’s Labour Programme?

I thought I just heard Kathryn Ryan, grilling someone from the Earthquake Fund, say “shtruggling”.

Let’s get this shtraight. Is NZ pronunciation in Shrit Shtreet? Should this shtop now or are we to take it in our shtride?
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November 15, 2016 9:29am
- Left Right and Centre
  
  ‘Knee’ on impossible.
  
  Lloyd Burr. Reporter – Newshub 6:11pm a few days back. Case closed.
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:17am
- Gabby
  
  I once heard a guest of hers get a word in edgeways.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:08pm
Manolo

Highlighting his incompetence. True:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/366081a5d0050130d58822a0c350b73f689df1b27311191ca0965f5315672ad3.jpg
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November 15, 2016 9:51am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

White women being made the scapegoats by feminist leftist looking for an out group to pin the Hillary debacle on, lol:

“…They wanted to vote on the side of white men. White women decided that defending their position of power as white people was more important…”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/11/09/white_women_sold_out_the_sisterhood_and_the_world_by_voting_for_trump.html

Well, how DARE white people vote for THEIR interests instead of for black or muslim interests!
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November 15, 2016 10:01am
Jack5

International financial media, including the Financial Times are full of an international bond sell-off.

That means investors expect interest rates to rise. Likely results: up will go the US dollar, down will come the kiwi dollar, down will come Auckland property prices, with a thump.
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November 15, 2016 10:06am
Morrissey

Some very heartening news for democracy in this country….

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/86374200/Nicky-Hager-gets-interim-costs-award-against-police-for-illegal-search-case
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November 15, 2016 10:20am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Go and give the evil rat-faced prick a hug then Morris dancer.
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:37am
  - Morrissey
    
    Okay, you don’t like his face, Captain—but what don’t you like about his brave and internationally renowned journalism?
    
    What did you think of Dirty Politics?
    
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    November 15, 2016 10:49am
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      So left wing activism is now a synonym for ‘brave and internationally-renowned journalism’, internationally renowned in places like North Korea and amongst marxists the world over.
      Re his stupid book, yes, cherry-picked stuff sourced from stolen emails is very dirty.
      The prick should be in prison for conspiracy against the elected Government of this country.
      No doubt there will be another ‘book’ in August 2017, which will only enhance National’s vote.
      
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      November 15, 2016 11:02am
      - Morrissey
        
        No, he’s admired, renowned—and, more to the point, widely read—in the United States, Britain, Australia and many other countries, as well as of course in New Zealand.
        
        Your amusingly dyspeptic and completely inaccurate remarks about his book show only that you have not read it. You should.
        
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        November 15, 2016 11:06am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Widely read? Didn’t Dirty Politics only sell about 5000 copies?
        Doesn’t seem many to me.
        
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        November 15, 2016 11:31am
      - Morrissey
        
        All_on_Red tries, unwisely, to be clever….
        
        Widely read? Didn’t Dirty Politics only sell about 5000 copies? Doesn’t seem many to me.
        
        The book sold out. There were waiting lists in all major book shops.
        
        As well as making him a lot of money, the book sent the government into a rage, culminating in the disturbing—and illegal—police ransacking of his house.
        
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        November 15, 2016 11:44am
      - All_on_Red
        
        How many do you have to sell to be regarded as ‘widely read’?
        The first print of 3000 sold out with maybe a total of 20,000 sold over the total run.- in a country of 4,000,000.
        
        20,000 is fuck all, even the NZ Women’s Weekly sells almost 60,000 copies in a week.
        As for making him a lot of money- men, at say $5 over 20,000 is only $100k. That’s not a lot.
        Although thinking about it, all the material was stolen so he didn’t do much. I certainly agree the Police should have got the Warrant properly, so then they could ransack his house legally. Lol.
        Anyway, how is that caring and friendly govt Hamas doing these days?
        Killed any gays lately?
        
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        November 15, 2016 1:06pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Even though you are obviously in raptures about it, if the last election result is anything to go by then the rest of the country cared very little it seems.
      However keep flogging that dead horse if it makes you feel better.
      
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      November 15, 2016 11:08am
      - Morrissey
        
        Actually, people DO care that an illegal campaign of character assassination was being run out of the Prime Minister’s office. The news media generally ran with the government’s shrieking denunciations of Hager, and kept repeating the line that “ordinary people” don’t care about “Beltway” issues.
        
        Such behaviour by the perpetrators and their corporate media yes-men is to be expected, of course. But what really saved the Key regime from the consequences of these embarrassing revelations was that the Labour Party refused to accept the gift it had been given, insisted that the revelations of massive government criminality were “a distraction from the real issues”, and lined up with the government to heap ridicule and abuse on Nicky Hager and Kim Dotcom.
        
        With such leadership, it’s no surprise to see the Labour Party polling so dismally.
        
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        November 15, 2016 11:40am
      - Kimbo
        
        National Party supporters can but hope and pray that Labour strategists decide to take your advice and run with Dirty Politics II in 2017.
        
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        November 15, 2016 11:42am
      - doggone7
        
        You’re could be right – most of the country probably doesn’t care about illegal activity by the police.
        
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        November 15, 2016 12:42pm
      - tom hunter
        
        Actually, people DO care that an illegal campaign of character assassination was being run out of the Prime Minister’s office.
        
        Wow! Even when reality takes a big bite out of you, you’ll still stand there saying, “I’m fine. Nothing to learn here”.
        
        The results of the 2014 election, which resulted in JK’s National being more powerful than before, surely answered that question in the negative. People either did not believe the Left spin put on it or felt it meant nothing.
        
        Jesus but you are a deluded little man.
        
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        November 15, 2016 1:20pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Illegal? That sounds both wrong and defamatory. What was illegal?
        
        [EDIT] 1000 comments of pure brilliance wasted on all youse losers. Woohoo
        
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        November 15, 2016 3:02pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

More feminist degeneracy:

“Kelli Jean challenges the dominant discourses on size and self through her use of queering fat embodiment and taking up space.

Kelli Jean Drinkwater is a multi-disciplinary artist and activist recognized for her creative practice and voice in radical body politics…”Unapologetic fat bodies can blow people’s minds,” she says. ”

https://www.ted.com/talks/kelli_jean_drinkwater_enough_with_the_fear_of_fat
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November 15, 2016 10:42am
- kowtow
  
  Unapologetic fat bodies can blow their joints and be a massive strain on any public health system. Should be banned.
  
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  November 15, 2016 3:37pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Here’s one unapologetic fat bastard they should ban….
    
    http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/news2011/qanda/Brownlee_190611_2.gif
    
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    November 15, 2016 7:26pm
Morrissey

U.K. correspondent speaks breezily of Britain violating international
law—and Guyon Espiner says nothing at all, merely snickers.
RNZ National, Tuesday 15 November 2016, 8:45 a.m.

We’ve seen before how the lack of serious reading and its consequence, a lack of knowledge, by RNZ hosts like Kathryn Ryan, John Campbell, Jesse Mulligan and Bryan Crump too often leaves them prey to clever political spin and to guests who are sometimes nasty, cynical, or fanatical—and often all three at the same time.

Just as concerning, though, is the seeming lack of any professional discrimination by the Morning Report team. Susie Ferguson seems just as susceptible as her predecessors (like Geoff Robinson or, in a best-forgotten spell in the early ’90s, the notoriously ill informed Mike Hosking) to swallowing and regurgitating wholesale any political spin coming out of Whitehall or Washington, D.C. And, as horribly demonstrated in the following interview with Dan Whitehead, her colleague Guyon Espiner is not much better.

This morning Espiner devoted three minutes to discussing the latest moves against publisher and journalist Julian Assange, who has been the object of U.K. and government fury ever since he released evidence of U.S. forces murdering Iraqi civilians, as well as the even more damaging release of government files revealing massive criminal enterprises perpetrated by the U.S. and U.K. against not only nameless and unheeded Pakistanis, Iraqis and Yemenis but against the citizens of their own countries. It will come as no surprise to anyone to learn that neither Guyon Espiner nor Dan Whitehead even so much as mentioned the “Collateral Murder” video or any of the other state crimes Assange has revealed to the world.

The truly terrifying passage starts from the 2:14 mark on the tape. Dan Whitehead, without betraying the slightest sign that he understands the enormity of what he is saying, suggests that the U.K. government might bestow on itself “extra powers to go inside the Embassy and bring him out.” If the U.K. government, no doubt being hectored and bullied by the State Department, actually bowed to this pressure and took such a step, that would be a grave, unprecedented violation of the right to political asylum, leading to predictable consequences all over the world. That someone, even a cynical British radio flack, could say such a thing without a second thought is worrying enough, but even worse was the fact that Guyon Espiner did not react at all. Instead, all he had to offer was a “philosophical” little snicker/snort and an anodyne signing-off comment.

GUYON ESPINER: Well let’s head overseas now, and after more than four YEARS holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, Julian Assange has been QUESTIONED by a Swedish PROSECUTOR over RAPE allegations, the Australian founder of WikiLeaks has DENIED the claim, he insists these claims are politically motivated, of course. Dan Whitehead is our correspondent in London. Dan, good morning to YOU. What do we KNOW about, errrr, how this process is playing out?

DAN WHITEHEAD: Well very LITTLE, to be HONEST, I’ve spoken to the Swedish prosecution office, errrrr, this afternoon here in the U.K., and they have said they will be refusing to give a running commentary on the investigation as it continues. What we DO know is that the Deputy Chief Prosecutor of Sweden attended the Ecuadorian embassy behind Harrod’s, in Knightsbrige, here in London where Julian Assange has BEEN for more than four years now, she was in there for FOUR YEARS. Quite a convoluted legalese process which went under WEIIIGHHHH. Questions which were pre-arranged were ASKED to Julian Assange by a, an Ecuadorian, uh, official. Uh, there was opportunities for the Swedish, uh, prosecutor as well as a police representative to interject with follow-up questions but no NEW questions DURING these four hours. Uh, three days have been set aside here in London for the questioning, we DON’T know whether that, those days will be used, or whether the questioning has indeed, uh, been ended. Errrrm, but as it stands at the MOMENT, Julian Assange remains INSIDE the Ecuadorian Embassy, he is of course FIGHTING that extradition order over fears that he will be, uh, sent to the U.S.

GUYON ESPINER: And what happens after those, uh, three DAYS?

DAN WHITEHEAD: Well the Swedish authorities will review the evidence, errr, the ANSWERS which Julian Assange GIVES will be given to the Prosecution Office in Stockholm in a WRITTEN form. It is then up to the prosecutors in Sweden to see whether or not they have enough EVIDENCE, errr, to press those charges, and then we’re in another legal GREY AREA which really [snorts ruefully] has been the sign of this entire SAGA over the last four years, because it all depends on whether or not Ecuador then HAS to give UP, uh, its political ASYLUM, uh, so that he is sent to Sweden, or whether or not the U.K. gets extra powers, um, to i-indeed go inside the Embassy and bring him out. If this case is DROPPED, errr, which IS likely, which is not unlikely but is a POSSIBILITY, given that the other THREE charges against him were dropped last year—the prosecutors ran out of time—if this case is dropped it’s not the end of the ROAAAAD for Assange, he can’t simply walk OUTSIDE of the embassy here in London because heeeee, uh, the U.K. authorities could STILL arrest him, uh, because he BROKE BAIL, uh, his bail conditions during this extradition request from Sweden when he went INSIDE the Ecuadorian Embassy in the FIRST place. So the U.K. au-, police still have the authority to ARREST him under THAT charge of breaking BAIL conditions. So this saga looks set to continue.

GUYON ESPINER: [snickering] It’s not gonna end any time SOON is it Dan! Thanks for that. Dan Whitehead from London.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=201823878
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November 15, 2016 10:46am
- tom hunter
  
  Good to see the powerful condemnations from Morrissey of the Iranian “revolutionaries” invading the US Embassy and taking its employees hostage.
  
  At least I’m sure Morrissey condemned them at some time in the past. I’m sure he never snickered at the Yanks getting their comeuppance from those righteously angry Iranians.
  
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  November 15, 2016 10:54am
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    I condemned that, just as I have condemned the far more numerous and far more bloody violations of international law by the United States and United Kingdom.
    
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    November 15, 2016 11:04am
    - Kimbo
      
      I condemned that, just as I have condemned the far more numerous and far more bloody violations of…
      
      Yes. It’s been used on Kiwiblog before, but one is reminded of the (apocryphal?) Greymouth Argus editorial after war was declared in 1914:
      
      “We have warned the Kaiser in the past!”
      
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      November 15, 2016 11:50am
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        Good one, Kimbo. I thought the Argus also warned the Russian Tsar at some point in the nineteenth century.
        
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        November 15, 2016 11:52am
      - Gabby
        
        The Kaiser should have bloody well listened.
        
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        November 15, 2016 5:44pm
- Reid
  
  I’ve always thought Guyon was an air-head, that proves it. “Not a journalist” should be the sign on his desk.
  
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  November 15, 2016 5:43pm
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    November 15, 2016 7:22pm
Hugh Pavletich

WHY TRUMP WON … DE SOUZA & FARAGE

Fr Raymond J de Souza: Scrubbing itself clean of the Clintons is good for U.S. political hygiene … National Post

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/fr-raymond-j-de-souza-scrubbing-itself-clean-of-the-clintons-is-good-for-u-s-political-hygiene

Last Tuesday, election day, I wrote of my expectation that Hillary Clinton would be elected, but that Donald Trump’s campaign had effectively exposed the Clinton machine for the corrupt syndicate it has long has been, an admission previously ruled out of bounds by the Washington establishment. It turned out Trump exposed it more effectively than I had thought, for his election victory was not due to a rise in Republican votes, but a calamitous drop-off in Democratic votes. Trump is president not because Americans turned toward him, but because they turned away from Hillary Clinton. … read more via hyperlink above …

Nigel Farage reacts to Donald Trump victory … Fox News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSyHn5ww3iI

Nigel Farage insults Herman van Rompuy, calls EU President a “DAMP RAG” – YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
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November 15, 2016 10:46am
- Happychappy
  
  You are so full of yourself thinking people believe what you say.Trump won because people are sick of the lies from MSM and the way they try to get their Fav’ourite across the line and could see the lies for what they were and are still today,the media are not happy becaus Trump called it for what it was
  
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  November 15, 2016 1:22pm
DifferentPerspective

Hillary didn’t win popular vote

With a putative majority of 700k votes and 3 million illegal votes cast you’d have to say the undemocratic call of Hollywood Twactavists to overturn the Trump election is dishonest and as shallow as their lives. As most of those dodgy votes will have been (as Project Veritas proved to us) bussed in Democrat voters and so in honest terms Hillary lost the popular vote too!

No wonder the Democrats oppose any moves to ensure that only registered voters (and not dead people) vote – they’d never see the inside of the White House again if they didn’t cheat!
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November 15, 2016 10:48am
DifferentPerspective

Soros really is becoming a problem

Nicely paid for buses to ship these ‘spontaneous’ protests to the right locations. Nothing f***ing spontaneous about it.
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November 15, 2016 10:57am
Fletch

Hollywood screenwriter encourages anti-Trump violence.

[Paul Schrader], writer of cinematic classics such as Taxi Driver and Raging Bull, posted to his Facebook page Saturday night that Donald Trump’s election is a “call to violence,” claiming that he had heard a similar call in the 60s.

“I have spent the last five days meditating on Trump’s election,” wrote Schrader. “Upon consideration, I believe this is a call to violence. I felt the call to violence in the 60’s and I feel it now again. This attack on liberty and tolerance will not be solved by appeasement.”

“We should finance those who support violence resistance. We should be willing to take arms,” Schrader continued. “Like Old John Brown, I am willing to battle with my children. Alt right nut jobs swagger violence. It’s time to actualize that violence, Like by [sic] Civil War Michigan predecessors I choose to stand with the black, the brown and the oppressed.”

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/11/14/writer-of-taxi-driver-raging-bull-pens-post-election-call-to-violence/
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November 15, 2016 10:59am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Leftist squeal for revolution.
  
  95% of gun owners in USA are right wingers.
  
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  November 15, 2016 6:17pm
srylands

http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/86453233/some-buildings-on-wellington-waterfront-believed-to-have-suffered-extensive-damage-in-quake

There is something seriously wrong with the design or construction of these new buildings on the waterfront. They have essentially been wrecked by moderate shaking. I can see litigation coming on.
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November 15, 2016 11:03am
- Ross12
  
  Srylands
  The real issue here is these buildings were built under the new and improved building Code —drum roll & Tui Ad.
  Meanwhile other older buildings around town that have been there for 50-100 years have had red stickers put on them by the so called expert “inspectors” and owners are left in limbo because they cannot afford to bring them up to the hopeless Code and they cannot sell because no one else wants to have the hassle.
  As a side effect all the rest of us have to pay higher insurance premiums to pay for the stuff ups of the “experts” —or the insurance companies use it as a convenient excuse to rip us off.
  
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  November 15, 2016 11:56am
  - Komata
    
    For Wellingtonians this damage to buildings on the reclaimed area should come as no surprise, except to wonder why it hasn’t happened before. As was proven in Christchurch, reclaimed land invariably reacts badly in earthquakes and while it could be excusable for earlier constructions (even as far inland as Lambton Quay) to say that the information didn’t exist, for the likes of Te Papa etc it was studiously ignored and we were assured that in the event of an earthquake there would be no damage. The Stats Dept building proves otherwise. It will be interestign to see what happens after the mess has been cleaned up; no doubt the WCC will deny all and any responsibility – then gouge the building owners for repairs. They’re well practiced in such methods…
    
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    November 15, 2016 2:37pm
Stars And Stripes

Jo Pert accused not guilty by reason of insanity
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11748300.

Another family ripped apart by a nutter who should not have been out in society.
The successes for the governments community care model just keep on coming.
How many more innocent people have to get slaughtered before this failed experiment is buried once and for all.
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November 15, 2016 11:23am
- virtualmark
  
  I’d feel better if we changed the philosophy of these verdicts from “not guilty by reason of insanity” to instead be “guilty, but insane”.
  
  There seems to be no doubt he did it. He is guilty of her murder. All we’re quibbling about is whether the best way forward is to lock him up in a regular prison or in a secure psychiatric ward.
  
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  November 15, 2016 3:49pm
Manolo

The Democratic mafia stands its ground:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/11/14/emanuel-tells-undocumented-immigrants-chicago-always-will-be-a-sanctuary-city/

Even as President-elect Donald Trump vows to immediately deport 2 to 3 million undocumented immigrants when he takes office in January, Mayor Rahm Emanuel is reaffirming Chicago’s commitment as a so-called “sanctuary city.”

“To be clear about what Chicago is, it always will be a sanctuary city,” the mayor said Monday.
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November 15, 2016 11:41am
- tom hunter
  
  I was watching that this morning on Chicago Today. Interesting how there’s no connection made by Democrats and the US Left, between statements like that – city mayor tells Federal Government to shove their laws – and the piece quoted above in Fletch’s link…
  
  “Like Old John Brown, I am willing to battle with my children. Alt right nut jobs swagger violence. It’s time to actualize that violence, Like by [sic] Civil War Michigan predecessors I choose to stand with the black, the brown and the oppressed.”
  
  War is Peace, etc, etc.
  
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  November 15, 2016 11:49am
SJ Actual

Delighted to see that USS Sampson will be helping with quake rescue / support efforts.
1 provides help to people who need it.
2 will make anti US ship visit protestors look even more foolish.
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November 15, 2016 11:52am
Manolo

What planet does he live on? Stating the obvious:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/14/obama_people_are_obviously_deeply_disaffected_otherwise_we_wouldnt_have_the_results_we_had.html

The president says that there are obviously people in the country who feel “deeply disaffected,” otherwise Donald Trump would not have won the election.
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November 15, 2016 11:54am
Biscuit

These earthquakes have peed me off, ha.

Not because they are earthquakes per se but rather because they have led to my having to stop calling the Leader of The Opposition ‘Angry Andy’ now that ‘David Little’ is so much more fitting!

We are (now) paying this clown $342,202 in total (http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/11/mps_salaries_up_25.html) so that he can fly about the country to be unrecognised?
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November 15, 2016 12:02pm
Biscuit

These earthquakes are annoying me no end, ha.

Not because they are earthquakes per se but rather because they have led to my having to stop calling the Leader of The Opposition ‘Angry Andy’ now that ‘David Little’ is so much more fitting!

We are (now) paying this clown $342,202 in total (http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/11/mps_salaries_up_25.html) so that he can fly about the country to be unrecognised?
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November 15, 2016 12:03pm
sbk

Had to happen.The pointless postmortem within/out the MSM.

Post-mortem,because the MSM is dead to most.Pointless?…we all ready know the cause of death.
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November 15, 2016 12:08pm
rangitoto

USS Sampson joining two NZ Navy ships on relief mission to Kaikoura. Good on the USA
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November 15, 2016 12:23pm
- Komata
  
  Do you think that Minto and his anti-US mates will organise a protest while it is in their neighbourhood?
  
  (Seriously; ideology easily trumps common sense).
  
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  November 15, 2016 2:40pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Why would they? This is exactly what the U.S. Navy SHOULD be doing. Why would people of conscience like John Minto protest against public institutions actually doing some good?
    
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    November 15, 2016 8:35pm
- kowtow
  
  Great move. Talking of American evacuation helicopters reminds me of Max Hastings,” Going to the Wars”. In the chapter The Fall of Saigon he recounts being on an American evacuation helicopter…
  
  “To my amazement however I saw John Pilger the Australian leftist.Pilger ,whose views I disagreed with as passionately as he despised mine,had heaped more scorn and contempt upon the South Vietnamese regime and the American engagement than almost any other journolist. Here was a delectable irony : instead of waiting to throw his arms around Hanoi’s liberators on their arrival, he was cadging a ride to safety with the capitalist running dogs and their Vietnamese stooges. At least I could offer the excuse that I never wanted Hanoi to win.”
  
  What I’d love to see now is USS Sampson being given the freedom of our ports , by way of a civic thank you from a grateful New Zealand public!
  
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  November 15, 2016 3:33pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Pilger knew perfectly well that in the chaos of the fall of Saigon, the liberation forces would not distinguish between decent journalists, like Pilger and the handful of real American journalists, and nasty propagandists like Hastings. Of course he had to get out of there.
    
    Max “Hitler” Hastings is about as reliable and trustworthy a source as Jacqueline Rowarth is a scientist. That you have approvingly quoted him reveals a great deal about you, and none of it is complimentary.
    
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    November 15, 2016 8:17pm
MickMac

Yep Tom, Now for Trump to deny all sanctuary cities any federal funds at all.
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November 15, 2016 12:24pm
- All_on_Red
  
  And send Homeland Security in to enforce the Law.
  
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  November 15, 2016 2:47pm
Steve (North Shore)

Now we just need a public #tweetstorm for public shaming, flaming campaigns?
http://www.uschronicle.com/fbn-wikileaks-65-reporters-met-coordinated-hillary-clinton-campaign/#
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November 15, 2016 12:26pm
sooty

Just like one for the churnilist wearing out rubber to the . Com mansion.
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November 15, 2016 12:48pm
All_on_Red

I hear that Donald Trump plans to start making good on his pledge to Make America Great Again by offering free rides on his plane to all those who want to leave.

In other news Left wing protesters who say they’ll overthrow the Government now admit that giving up their guns was a big mistake because throwing dildos and bongs isnt working
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November 15, 2016 1:40pm
Manolo

The arrogant Messiah cannot help himself:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3936210/Reality-way-asserting-Condescending-Obama-says-Trump-t-promises-warns-successor-s-temperament-doom-unless-corrects-it.html

President Barack Obama delivered a series of patronizing backhanded compliments to President-Elect Donald Trump on Monday during a lengthy White House press conference conducted before his final trip abroad.
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November 15, 2016 2:03pm
Keeping Stock

The Australian cricketers lose their fifth straight test match, beaten by an innings and quite a few by South Africa.

Steve Smith’s neck will be on the chopping block very soon if he cannot turn things around quickly, but the ineptitude of the Australian batting effort at Hobart doesn’t suggest that’s going to happen any time soon. Even without Steyn and de Villiers, South Africa was in a different class to our Australian mates.
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November 15, 2016 2:07pm
Manolo

Just in case the followers of the violent prophet get frisky:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3935670/Germany-unveils-new-anti-terror-cops-wake-spreading-Islamism-Merkel-s-open-door-migrant-policy.html

Germany unveils its new anti-terror cops in the wake of spreading Islamism and Merkel’s open-door migrant policy.
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November 15, 2016 2:08pm
Nostradamus

Morrissey:

Will be joining Penny Bright for the “March for Peace” on Saturday? Or will you be too busy transcribing radio interviews?
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November 15, 2016 2:52pm
- mikenmild
  
  I trust the protesters will be out in force in Kaikoura to complain about the use of US Navy helicopters there.
  
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  November 15, 2016 2:57pm
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    Why would they, Mike? That’s what the US Navy should be doing, surely.
    
    Or do you think their remit should be exclusively to intimidate and provoke?
    
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    November 15, 2016 8:11pm
- Morrissey
  
  Neither. I have “other plans”.
  
  http://techcheckdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/the-wood-log-of-mystery-youtube-thumbnail-9.jpg
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:09pm
Nostradamus

Mikenmild:

You raise an interesting point.

I noted this statement in the article Penny linked to above:

It also contravenes Auckland’s City for Peace declaration, signed on Dec 15th 2011, which states that “Auckland Council is dedicated to the promotion of nuclear free zones and a culture of peace based on social, economic and environmental justice, tolerance and non violence.”

Goodness knows what “environmental justice” means. I wonder if the Kaikoura District Council has previously made a similar “declaration” regarding the latest shopping list of fashionable values.
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November 15, 2016 3:03pm
- mikenmild
  
  And I wonder, too, if Penny and her crowd were out protesting the last time a Chinese warship visited Auckland. None of their ilk appeared to be in evidence in Wellington:
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/22878/Chinese-warship-stops-by-on-friendly-visit
  
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  November 15, 2016 3:11pm
- Brigitte
  
  All sounds great but I hate to inform the council that the Auckland Hospital is not a nuclear free zone. And many patients have been thankful for that too.
  
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  November 15, 2016 3:21pm
VicParking

Ive finally given up on the failing newspapers online version. They have stuffed so many banner adverts on the main page it takes an age to load. This is evan though I have 100mps fibre. Every time you want to watch a new video (20 seconds long) they stuff a one minute advert in front of it.
There print version is going down the drain and now they are making a major attempt to send their online version the same way.
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November 15, 2016 3:18pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Ad Block Plus for banners:
  
  https://adblockplus.org/en/
  
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  November 15, 2016 6:22pm
Manolo

Will he replace Kerry?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-14-20-16-53

Rudy Giuliani is the favorite to be secretary of state in Donald Trump’s administration.

That’s according to a senior Trump official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the source isn’t authorized to speak on the record.
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November 15, 2016 5:03pm
Reid

This will be interesting:

Trump believes that 9/11 has not been properly investigated and he plans to get to the bottom of it. “First of all, the original 9/11 investigation is a total mess and has to be reopened,” Trump said.

The election of Donald Trump has rocked the establishment and things are only going to get rockier for them during his first term. There is a reason George W. Bush didn’t vote for Trump in the election, leaving the presidential line blank and voting Republican down-ballot. Trump has pledged to investigate 9/11 in a way it has not been investigated before…

“First of all, the original 9/11 investigation is a total mess and has to be reopened” Trump announced to supporters. “How do two planes take out three buildings in the same day? I never got my head around the fact that nothing is mentioned about the destruction of Building 7 in the 585 page document,” he explained, talking about World Trade Center 7 which also collapsed – inexplicably – during the September 11 attacks…

http://investmentwatchblog.com/trump-im-reopening-911-investigation/

Not because it’s going to reveal the truth, but it will reveal more than the sheeple know and it’s always interesting to see how they react.

I wonder if he’ll use it to claim Iran is the evil one.

As I said, it will be interesting.

Der Fuhrer or just Donald?

Who knows at the mo.
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November 15, 2016 6:05pm
- mikenmild
  
  Sucked in by another fake news story, Reid. Trump never said that.
  
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  November 15, 2016 6:13pm
  - Reid
    
    I thought it might be too good to be true. Can’t have good happening, can we. That’d be just terrible, wouldn’t it.
    
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    November 15, 2016 6:18pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Just a reminder to be critical in the use of sources…
      
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      November 15, 2016 6:27pm
      - Reid
        
        Yes and thank you mm, deeply appreciated. How’s the 911 research going BTW? Explained that pesky Building 7 yet?
        
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        November 15, 2016 6:41pm
- Gabby
  
  He’ll be briefed by ((((((((someone with inside information)))))))) and no more will be heard, right… Reid? Curse the demon that let slip about Building 7.
  
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  November 15, 2016 6:26pm
  - Reid
    
    Er…
    
    Get thee behind me Gabby thou foul and putrid fiend?
    
    Was that OK?
    
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    November 15, 2016 6:46pm
    - Gabby
      
      Quoting scripture… Reid? What a hack move, everyone knows even you can do that.
      
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      November 15, 2016 7:43pm
      - mikenmild
        
        KJV only, of course.
        
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        November 15, 2016 7:45pm
Longknives

Stuff ‘Journalist’ actually blames Trump for Leonard Cohen’s Death-

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/86398819/leonard-cohen-the-poetry-amid-the-chaos-and-tragedy

I’ve never read anything so ridiculous…
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November 15, 2016 6:15pm
- itstricky
  
  It was a throw away line, by her mother. You’re not going to go all Generation Snowflake on us, are you?
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:42pm
Happychappy

How can NZ be the second best Governed Country in the world without Andrew Little and Phil Twyford in the Government these two highly rated senior leaders in Labour Union driven opposition think that the people of NZ want them as the government.The Labour leader and Election Chairman will have to continue pimping the poor and keep helping make up story’s on the homeless to gain any traction from a well liked National Government and popular Prime Minister
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November 15, 2016 6:30pm
- Reid
  
  Yeah but being popular in politics and doing right are not the same things.
  
  Key has shown throughout his term he’s a do-nothing guy when it comes to startling the horses so nothing, really, has happened. There’s been no fights, because he’s never picked any. Interest-free student loans, WFF, the mindless PC psychobabble in education generally, everyone has their lists. But nothing changes, because Key refuses to invest any of his political capital in anything, and that’s the secret of his “success.”.
  
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  November 15, 2016 6:54pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Happychappy:
  
  This team will have John Key quaking in his boots:
  
  Andrew Little; Annette King; Grant Robertson; Phil Twyford; Jacinda Ardern; Chris Hipkins; Kelvin Davis; Carmel Sepuloni; David Clark; Megan Woods; David Parker; Nanaia Mahuta; David Shearer; Iain Lees-Galloway; Su’a William Sio; Sue Moroney; Damien O’Connor; Stuart Nash; Kris Faafoi; Meka Whaitiri; Jenny Salesa; Peeni Henare; Clare Curran; Trevor Mallard; Ruth Dyson; Rino Tirikatene; David Cunliffe; Poto Williams; Louisa Wall; Adrian Rurawhe; Clayton Cosgrove
  
  The sad thing about that uninspiring list is that so many of them have been associated with scandals. I wonder if Annette King (when she finally retires) intends to write a best-selling book about how an unexplained sequence of events led to a naked man running out of her front door and down the street!
  
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  November 15, 2016 7:06pm
  - Reid
    
    Darryn’s a classic for a “Whatever happened to…” episode.
    
    He was Hulun’s “son,” Jacinda her “daughter,” apparently.
    
    Emotionally I mean.
    
    You watch for her behind Jacinda in years to come.
    
    Once she’s free of her now-wearisome UN duties, she’ll return and spread her cloak over Aotearoa.
    
    I imagine GG will have to do.
    
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    November 15, 2016 7:10pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Reid:
      
      A life of ~~diligent public service~~ public troughing can’t go unrewarded. I’m sure there’s a position like Honorary Consulate-General to Antarctica that needs filling?
      
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      November 15, 2016 7:21pm
      - Reid
        
        I wonder how Auckland’s delights compare with Manhattan’s?
        
        Let’s hope they’re so way better we hardly never ever see her, everer.
        
        I wonder how Peter feels? Maybe he’s looking forward to the increased sense of structure and discipline round the place.
        
        Let’s hope so.
        
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        November 15, 2016 7:27pm
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    Makes one wonder what sordid position Darryn was in to let a naked man running away from Annette’s house late one dark night Nostra..?
    
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    November 15, 2016 7:28pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stigie:
      
      I can only imagine what Darren (note the correct spelling) was thinking. Perhaps he was upset because his friend suddenly stopped playing “hide the sausage” and started playing “hide and seek”? It’s good form to discuss these things when you’re playing with someone!
      
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      November 15, 2016 7:42pm
    - Reid
      
      It’s abuse of both power and process stigie.
      
      Power from Annette and Hulun, to be so powerfully up themselves they raise a protege so amoral and heedless he commits what he did.
      
      Process then comes to play to arrange it such the media AND COURTS and POLICE never followed up on it.
      
      That’s power and abuse of process right there. Simple as that. No question.
      
      And everyone moves on, as they always do.
      
      Name me another defendant who would do that and wind up with Darren’s fate. (Thanks for the sp. Nosty:)
      
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      November 15, 2016 7:42pm
  - Happychappy
    
    I don’t know what would be worse having Annette or Darren chasing you but in the end there would be no joy from either
    
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    November 15, 2016 7:42pm
    - Gabby
      
      Never going to happen, crappily, so don’t worry.
      
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      November 15, 2016 7:45pm
stigie

“I wonder how Peter feels?”

You could always put yourself forward Reid..?
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November 15, 2016 7:33pm
Reid

“A core view of many Trump advisors is that the extended period of emergency policy settings has promoted a bubble in the stock market, depressing the incomes of savers, scared the public and encouraged capital misallocation,” Shepherdson told Market Watch. “Right now, these are minority views on the Fed policymaking committee, but Trump appointees are likely to shift the needle.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/why-president-trump-will-fumigate-fed
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November 15, 2016 8:03pm
sooty

What a list, Nastradamus. Full off,
Never was.
Never will be.
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November 15, 2016 8:37pm
Fletch

FFS, the media have learned NOTHING from the way they handled their reporting on the election. Witness this CNN discussion where the host asks if Trump’s new advisor is a bigoted, racist, white nationalist. And they are being serious.

As I said, they have learned NOTHING.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/11/14/breitbarts-pollak-takes-on-three-cnn-talking-heads-most-offensive-thing-bannon-has-done-is-win-the-white-house/
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November 15, 2016 8:49pm
- mikenmild
  
  Sure, he’s not a white nationalist…
  
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  November 15, 2016 8:57pm
Morrissey

…asks if Trump’s new advisor is a bigoted, racist, white nationalist.

He is.
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November 15, 2016 8:56pm
- Fletch
  
  Those are just words the Left throw out any time they want to smear someone, in lieu of actual arguments or evidence. They have nothing apart from hostile words to label their victims with that they know will emotionally push people’s buttons. Personally, I can’t wait until Trump takes power and this sort of shit gets flushed down the drain.
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:02pm
  - itstricky
    
    Just words? Shit a brick, here I was thinking it was dead obvious to anyone who had any ounce of human interpretation capability.
    
    Is this evidence, or “just words”?
    
    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:24pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Of course he’s not a white nationalist, he’s ‘alt-right’.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:24pm
    - itstricky
      
      “It’s alright to be alt-right”
      
      I think the switch from Nationalist to alt-right was the day of the election.
      
      “The wall is not so much of a wall, is a fence-wall-fence. It’ll be strong fencing, though. Nasty fencing, nasty”.
      
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      November 15, 2016 9:28pm
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    It won’t.
    
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    November 15, 2016 9:30pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Does he go by the handle Morrissey?
  
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  November 15, 2016 9:03pm
BeeSting

Russell Crowe for President

https://youtu.be/FRTlT3DEydU
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November 15, 2016 11:49pm
waikatosinger

With all the naval vessels about to arrive, there could soon be more helpers in Kaikura than there are residents.
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November 15, 2016 11:54pm
Manolo

He has not learnt a bit:
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/obama-trump-nationalism-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

President Barack Obama on Tuesday warned of a need to “guard” against a rise in nationalism both at home and abroad during a press conference in Greece one week after the election of Donald Trump.
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