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oldpark

Donald Trump is being blamed for the 7.5 Earthquake.
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November 14, 2016 8:04am
- holysheet
  
  I think the left here will blame John Key
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:26am
- Liberty
  
  Now they have it all wrong.
  God is a prody and the All blacks lost to Micky Ireland. Twice. He is a little pissed off.
  
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  November 14, 2016 11:02am
cmm

Why is Wellington struggling so much after the EQ?

Looks to me like Wellington is really going to suffer if it gets hit by a proper EQ.

Sure it shook here inChch (much, much closer), but Wellington seems to have more damage and be more disrupted.

I hope Wellington residents take this as a wakeup call…
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November 14, 2016 8:05am
- mikenmild
  
  It is possible for the effects to be more severe in some locations than others, even if a bit further away.
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:09am
  - Viking2
    
    Didn’t take out your fibre then MM. Are you in the Beehive basement again?
    
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    November 14, 2016 8:13am
    - mikenmild
      
      Just a few broken glasses here.
      
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      November 14, 2016 8:22am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes, very dependent on the near-surface geology of the site.
    
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    November 14, 2016 8:19am
J Bloggs

Wellington has been affected because there was a 5.5 aftershock right below Wellington at about 1 am.
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November 14, 2016 8:07am
- cmm
  
  Thanks for clearing that up.
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:10am
- stigie
  
  So Milky was the closest to it then..?
  
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  November 14, 2016 2:42pm
cmm

The great white-wash of a failed presidency:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/86414474/white-house-photographer-pete-souza-captures-defining-moments-of-barack-obamas-presidency

No picture of ordering drone strikes.

No picture of Guantanamo Bay (The Big O promised to close it within a year).

No pictures of Ferguson riots.
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November 14, 2016 8:09am
- mikenmild
  
  https://www.facebook.com/toosoonish/photos/a.435025870022418.1073741828.435023306689341/592316740959996/?type=3&theater
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:18am
Viking2

Felt large in the Waikato and even in Auckland.
Friends reported that water was sloshing out of their swimming pool in Hamilton East and cousin in Cambridge has been there 34 years and never felt an earthquake until this one.
Interesting that the Waikato is the least earthquake prone area in NZ.

The only thing that was missing is that the link between Auckland and the rest of us wasn’t broken. Perhaps we need to set up a ferry terminal at the bottom of the Bombays.
Worst part is that we will have more people coming to the BOP when we already have a housing shortage.
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November 14, 2016 8:12am
- waikatogirl
  
  The only earthquake I have felt in the Waikato was the one in the late 70’s that rolled through and felt like a wave under the feet.
  Limited damage, just toppled some chimneys in Te Aroha.
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:39am
- howitis
  
  That explains something.
  I am in central Auckland. The neighbours are away.
  I was reading and just after midnight there was noise from their pool.
  It went on and I thought there was someone in there such was the noise.
  I went and checked and there was no-one in it but it was very choppy and still moving a lot even after a few minutes.
  
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  November 14, 2016 9:35am
- Komata
  
  Viking: Being asleep at the time, I didn’t feel a thing 🙂
  
  FWIW: Despite what your cousin says, Cambridge DOES experience earthquakes on an almost daily basis, as there is a fault line directly in front of the Karapiro dam and it is constantly moving. For unknown reasons, some people (myself included) can actually feel them, but they are very light – almost in the nature of ‘background chatter’ and most people will not be aware of them. That detail notwithstanding, there have been records of various ‘noisy’ earthquakes throughout the Waikato area for as long as Europeans have been in the area. Of those that have occurred over the e past 40-odd years, the most well-known was one that happened in 1972 and was centred near Te Aroha. However, there was also a later, equally ‘noisy’ one one in the late 1990’s (exact date now un-recalled) which was also heard throughout the Waikato. It was also centred on Te Aroha. It’s not for nothing that NZ is known as the ‘Shaky Islands’.
  
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  November 14, 2016 1:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Could the downticker just go away for a while and make themselves a nice cup of tea?
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November 14, 2016 8:12am
- Viking2
  
  Sad person.
  Probably colour blind so ticks the wrong colour.
  Clearly unhinged and doesn’t like the world nor themselves.
  Victim of severe depression, no friends, lives like a hermit, the worlds an awful place, wears big grey overcoat and hasn’t had sex for many years.
  
  These lefties are funny people.
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:18am
- holysheet
  
  It’s one of the stupidboy clan practicing before they go to morning prayers.
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:29am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Probably had a bad night’s sleep last night, so can’t help themselves. And if the tea doesn’t do the trick they should have several black coffees.
  
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  November 14, 2016 10:24am
- Ed Snack
  
  Pssst, downticked, just for fun……
  
  Not meant personally
  
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  November 14, 2016 11:45am
artemisia

Something I don’t get. The uprising against the ‘establishment’ in the US – it is being reported that a lot was about some sort of inequality. Yet the GOP campaign focused on inequality (rust belt etc), much of which happened or continued under the Democrats. Bernie Sanders similarly.

How come inequality is an issue for the GOP – and Bernie – but not addressed enough during Democrats white house tenure? Makes no sense. Does the GOP care more than the Dems? What am I missing?
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November 14, 2016 8:13am
- Komata
  
  Artemesia:
  
  Re: ‘How come inequality is an issue for the GOP – and Bernie – but not addressed enough during Democrats white house tenure?’
  
  In one word: Control!
  
  The Dems are essentially Communists / Socialists who, by their very ideology, MUST be able to control their citizens. In metaphore, they would rather have a flock of sheep than try to herd cats! The best and simplest method of obtaining this ‘controled’ state is to create situations where dependency is a ‘no choice’ option. Take away the industry (ie, remove wages) and replace the ‘wages’ with such things as ‘food stamps’; items which can only be obtained from the Government, and you have ‘Instant control’,. This can be reinforced in various ways and, over time, becomes dependency. With that in place, by removing / adding ‘perks’ to favoured or unfavoured members of the populace, things can be made to occur to meet specific outcomes and intentions. It suited the Dems / white House to have this situation as they could manipulate it for their own advantage – even to the extent of ‘persuading’ the recipients to vote in certain ways, since if they did they would receive certain advantages… As I said, ‘Control’. The Soviets and Chinese Communists were adept at creating and using such situations.
  
  Unfortunately, a certain Mr. Trump didn’t receive the memo and the populace, persuaded that a change was possible, have reacted accordingly – a situation which, for some reason, the Dems feel just a little aggrieved about…
  
  Not sure if this answers your question, but I hope that it may do so. Thank you for asking it.
  
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  November 14, 2016 1:21pm
Simon

Progressive left threaten revolution against Trump’s America who have 95% of the guns.

Greatest Election ever.
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November 14, 2016 8:16am
flipper

Baron Black of Crossharbour has an excellent analysis of Trump’s success and the MSM failure to read what was in front of them (BTW, so does Whale this morning on datasets that were ignored).

Conrad Black is a Trump supporter so some will ignore his analysis. Sadly, it is the “let them eat cake” approach of the chattering class that resulted in their demise. Even now they blame Coney when the likely POTUS outcome was apparent weeks ago, or they nit pick over inaccurate or incomplete quotes of what may or may not have been said during the POTUS campaign.

And as for the ignorant Buffet-paid fools, rioting in Portland and elsewhere, here is the solution suggested by two Ocala, Florida relatives who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2014, sent to me this morning:
“….The general feeling among ‘us’ retiree’s here in Florida is round them up and draft them. At least they’d have a job to do. ….”

Now for Black’s analysis:
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/conrad-black-its-morning-in-america
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November 14, 2016 8:17am
- howitis
  
  The irony of course is this.
  
  …Warren Buffett is once again the second-richest person on the planet, and he has President-elect Donald Trump to thank.
  Buffett added US$5.8 billion to his fortune this week, leading gains for the world’s wealthiest as he leaped over Spain’s Amancio Ortega and Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos to reclaim the No. 2 spot on the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.
  Buffett, who supported Democrat Hillary Clinton in the election and ferried voters to the polls in his Nebraska hometown, benefited as shares in Wells Fargo & Co soared 13 per cent in the two days after the November 8 election on speculation that a Republican administration would bring less regulation and sideline some of the industry’s sharpest critics…..
  
  Mr Buffett, the Oracle, is driving in serious plonker territory.
  
  What these rich lists don’t highlight is that the Walton children of Sam Walton, the founder of Wal-Mart, eclipse anyone else Gates, Buffett, Carlos Slim etc. when the family members fortunes are combined at close to USD150 billion.
  Wal-Mart has been helped by cheap import from China and cost local jobs.
  They may not be so fortunate going forward.
  But Warren is doing just fine.
  
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  November 14, 2016 9:52am
Manolo

While there is time…
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/race-to-resettle-refugees-in-us-before-deal-is-overturned-by-presidentelect-donald-trump/news-story/9b9b8f1ff32b3e691565b3d3b6fdcb31

Turnbull and Obama Government officials are racing to begin resettling refugees in the United States before the incoming Trump administration can halt the deal between the two countries.
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November 14, 2016 8:29am
RF

Having just watched crooked Hillary and her dirty dealings concerning the election it reminds me of another loser that is closer to home – Angry Andrew.

They must have attended the same school for drop kicks.
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November 14, 2016 9:39am
Keeping Stock

Irony alert – protesters in Wellington yesterday were claiming that “Love trumps hate”, at the same time as calling Donald Trump the “orange oompaloompa”.

And in the meantime, the Herad has a story about how bad it is to live in violent, post-election USA

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11747234

Oddly, I have seen very few reports about Republicans going out and blocking roads, burning cars, burning the US flag and refusing to accept the legitimacy of a democratically elected President. Has the media not learned yet that its breathless pieces about how awful Trump is actually contributed to him winning the presidency?
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November 14, 2016 9:52am
- tom hunter
  
  Has the media not learned yet that its breathless pieces about how awful Trump is actually contributed to him winning the presidency?
  
  Broken record and all that KS, but all this is the clearest indication yet that they will never learn.
  
  They can only go bankrupt and they must be driven to that.
  Don’t click on their links.
  Don’t read them.
  Don’t subscribe to them
  Persuade others to do the same.
  
  Die, MSM. Die
  
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  November 14, 2016 10:27am
- tom hunter
  
  The smartasses at Powerline have this quote from the Washington Post:
  
  “Something of gigantic proportions happened—must have been happening for a long while—and the capital and the political wise men were taken by surprise. . . an ‘anti-Washington,’ ‘anti-establishment’ political storm warning was missed by Washington and the establishment.”
  
  They then reveal that it’s from just after the 1980 election of Ronald Reagan.
  
  So more evidence of not learning.
  
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  November 14, 2016 10:42am
  - howitis
    
    Both Trump and Reagan follow extremely weak and insipid Democrat Presidents.
    Obummer without a teleprompter is a stumbling, inarticulate wreck.
    Good riddance.
    
    Democrats may have actually done the world a favour by putting Obummer ahead of Clinton in 2008. Obummer in the end has been a ‘do nothing’ puppet boy. No teleprompter, no ideas!
    
    In 2016 they internally picked Clinton over Bernie Sanders and against internal trend. While I think Sanders policies are yesteryear they appeal to the younger set as they have not seen such policies in action.
    
    I had better not suggest the Democrat party actually allow democracy to operate internally.
    Far be it for me to suggest to Debbie Wasserman Schultz or Donna Brazile how to best run their party into the ground:)
    
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    November 14, 2016 11:12am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Don’t forget the Dems sending undercover operatives into Trump rallies to commit violence.
  
  Don’t forget the roaming gangs of Urban Zulus viciously attacking white people on the streets of American cities.
  
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  November 14, 2016 10:48am
  - Komata
    
    Please, don’t insult ‘real’ / ‘actual’ Zulu’s with that ‘Urban Zulu’ phrase; Shaka and his successors would be greatly (and rightly) aggrieved.
    
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    November 14, 2016 1:28pm
- tom hunter
  
  More deliciousness in one poster…
  
  Openly defying and brazenly
  disrespecting your President,
  while hoping that he fails, is
  not called patriotism…
  It is called TREASON
  
  And all that has to be done is a quick photoshop and it’ll be good to go.
  
  Thanks Lefties!
  
  I suspect that dissent will also .soon be patriotic again.
  
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  November 14, 2016 3:58pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  Twitter has a “Rape Melania” which does not seem to have been shut down. I don’t use twitter so I don’t know if its still active. Progressive, Gender Equality, Liberals, encouraging rape. The left need to grow up and stop acting like kindergarten children who can;t get their own way. Time for Martial Law and a few body bags.
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/13/twitter-allows-rape-melania-to-trend-after-site-explodes-with-trump-assassination-threats/
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:52pm
itstricky

Starboard – Special admission is not specifically Maori.

Are you talking about Targeted Admission (i.e quota) and, if so, why is that a ‘free pass’?
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November 14, 2016 10:07am
- starboard
  
  Give it up sticky..half brains are being let in due to the colour of their skin. Wrong, wrong and wrong.
  
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  November 14, 2016 6:03pm
  - itstricky
    
    You’re really convincing me with your solid references, strong intellect and concrete examples here, starboard.
    
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    November 14, 2016 7:56pm
EAD

Loving this alt-right meme with Trump & Farage:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fa56f5ac5a20929101519f77d02f3896f973803da1bbb758e3308060b8343e7a.jpg
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November 14, 2016 10:21am
EAD

I know Reid has speculated on Trump being another puppet of the real rulers but here Savant in his latest article speculates the same thing based on his appointment of Shabbos Goy James Woolsey to National Security Advisor who is a neocohen from previous regimes:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2016/11/a-terrible-choice-grim-portent.html?m=0

In common with many Trump supporters on the alt-right I’ve long harboured a horrible doubt that – just maybe – he was a huckster using his marketing genius to tap into the zeitgeist, leveraging it to close the ultimate sale. Did he really plan to get on with Russia, de-fund NATO, pull American troops out of the Middle East (i.e. stop fighting wars for Israel) and instead focus attention and resources on domestic issues? If that represented his true beliefs then he literally could not have made a worse choice for National Security Adviser……..

Let’s give Trump the benefit of the doubt for the moment I say but this appointment is ominous.
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November 14, 2016 10:32am
- mikenmild
  
  Shabbos Goy?
  I see the earthquake hasn’t shaken the obsession with Jews out of you.
  
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  November 14, 2016 11:24am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD , I dare say Irish Savant and you won’t find this very encouraging ,
  
  http://forward.com/news/354241/donald-trump-gives-first-interview-as-president-elect-to-sheldon-adelsons-i/
  
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  November 14, 2016 3:02pm
  - Reid
    
    Why would you think that stephie. I knew Adelson was supporting Trump months ago as I’m sure did EAD. Didn’t you?
    
    Really?
    
    REALLY????!!!!?????
    
    REALLY????!!!!????? times eleventy gagillion plus infinity plus one, so there. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
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    November 14, 2016 6:39pm
- Reid
  
  John Bolton is apparently in too. That’s a big tell.
  
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  November 14, 2016 6:36pm
- EAD
  
  I see the earthquake hasn’t shaken the obsession with Jews out of you.
  
  I see the earthquake hasn’t shaken the obsession with me out of you!
  
  I wonder how many people did a Google search for Shabbos Goy to find out for themselves the origins of the term and it’s current usage.
  
  By the way, in case anyone is wondering, Milkmaid is an excellent example of a Shabbos goy.
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:00pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Trump will never become President
==== YOU ARE HERE ====
Trump will never deport illegal aliens
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November 14, 2016 10:44am
Manolo

The vanquished Messiah should move to Calais or Brussels after January 20th:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-12/obama-defends-eu-nato-amid-doubts-about-trump-s-european-policy

President Barack Obama delivered a staunch defense of the European Union and North Atlantic Treaty Organization amid lingering doubts about the commitment of his successor Donald Trump to maintaining ties between the U.S. and its closest allies.
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November 14, 2016 10:48am
jonar

Apparently the metaphorical wall, as some here have described it, will require construction.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-border-idUSKBN1380MX

Asked in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” whether he would accept a fence instead of a wall, Trump said “for certain areas I would,” according to excerpts.

“But certain areas, a wall is more appropriate. I’m very good at this, it’s called construction, there could be some fencing,” Trump said.
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November 14, 2016 11:01am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  With motion detecting automatic machine gun turrets on top.
  
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  November 14, 2016 11:08am
Manolo

Reince Priebus announced as Trump Chief of Staff.
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November 14, 2016 11:03am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Media spewing propaganda “Spontaneous, all walks of life” anti trump protests – but are actually populated with seasoned Dem Party operatives:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-13/anti-trump-protests-proof-professional-activist-involvement

Do these muppets EVER learn?!
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November 14, 2016 11:06am
- Manolo
  
  The thugs are not prepared to learn as long as Soros’ money continues to flow.
  
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  November 14, 2016 11:08am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Trump needs to put out an interpol arrest warrant for (((Soros))).
    
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    November 14, 2016 11:21am
    - stephieboy
      
      For doing what ? Being a billionaire Jew like Trump’s Billionaire mate Sheldon Adelson ?
      
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      November 14, 2016 2:58pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Yet another vicious attack by Leftists against Trump supporter.

It is Leftists who are violent intolerant Communists. Check out the mug shots, no surprise:

“Police in Meriden, Connecticut arrested two men on Saturday, charging them with attacking a middle-aged man who was displaying a pro-Donald Trump sign in public.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/13/connecticut-police-arrest-two-men-brutally-assaulting-man-trump-sign/
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November 14, 2016 11:20am
mikenmild

Bad news for big bruv and longknives, I’m afraid.
All Blacks win Team of the year, Player of the Year (Barrett) and Coach of the Year (Hansen) at the World Rugby Awards.
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November 14, 2016 12:20pm
Hugh Pavletich

RESIDENTIAL RENTAL SURPLUS IN CHRISTCHURCH … LIZ McDONALD … THE PRESS

Cash and rent-free offers fail to lure tenants as Christchurch housing shortage u-turns | Stuff.co.nz

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/86204588/cash-and-rentfree-offers-fail-to-lure-tenants-as-christchurch-housing-shortage-uturns

Christchurch landlords are using cash incentives and free rent to lure tenants as intensive housing development contributes to a surplus of rental units.

Deals on offer include a $1000 cash-back offer, rent-free periods and no letting fee.

It is a far cry from the post-quake rental shortage, during which people were found living in garages, cars and crowded rooms.

The city’s average weekly rent is now around $380, down from a high of $435 in early 2015, according to government bond figures. … read more via hyperlink above …
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November 14, 2016 12:26pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  REINZ OCTOBER REPORT: VOLUMES DROP WITH AUCKLAND STILL INFLATING … INTEREST CO NZ
  
  No sign of the spring lift in sales for the housing market this year as sales numbers plummet in October: REINZ | interest.co.nz
  
  http://www.interest.co.nz/property/84570/no-sign-spring-lift-sales-housing-market-year-sales-numbers-plummet-october-reinz
  
  The usual spring surge in the housing market has failed to arrive this year, with sales volumes falling rather than rising although prices are holding up reasonably well.
  
  The Real Estate Institute of NZ says it recorded 6727 residential property sales in October, down 9% compared to September and down 14% compared to October last year.
  
  The national median selling price was $510,000 in October, down $5000 compared to September, although record high median median prices were set in Auckland, Northland, Waikato/Bay of Plenty and Southland.
  
  In the Auckland region the median selling price was $868,000 in October, up 5.2% compared to September and up 16% compared to October last year. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  REINZ Reports
  
  https://reinz.co.nz/residential-property-data-gallery
  
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  November 14, 2016 1:33pm
- Flash
  
  Clearly, Auckland needs an earthquake.
  
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  November 14, 2016 6:46pm
- starboard
  
  Really? You will find those properties are shit holes Hugh and will always be hard to let. My properties in Christchurch are fully let and locked in. Its not all doom and gloom matey.
  
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  November 14, 2016 6:49pm
Manolo

The NYT, queen among presstitutes, attempts to sow division (notice the second paragraph):
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/14/us/politics/reince-priebus-chief-of-staff-donald-trump.html
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November 14, 2016 12:55pm
sooty

Labours Best First Friend Bill Liu, the man with a multi million dollar slush fund, was arrested when he returned to China. Which Labour MP is game enough to poke their head above the parapet to look after him now?
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November 14, 2016 1:46pm
- Komata
  
  Sooty
  
  Re: ‘Which Labour MP is game enough to poke their head above the parapet to look after him now?’
  
  Absolutely none! Liu had his uses (they got his money), he’s gone, and his name is expunged from the collective memory.
  
  Bill who????
  
  It’s what (‘Fair weather’) Labour does to its ‘friends’, yet the party believes that it is ‘Honourable’ in its dealings…
  
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  November 14, 2016 2:42pm
  - sooty
    
    You have to ask the questian # where is the money #. Someone pocketed it, because to me Labour never had it!
    
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    November 14, 2016 2:46pm
    - Komata
      
      “Someone pocketed the money????? Never, Not the honest, totally transparent, uncorruptable NZ Labour Party…
      
      Not ‘arf they didn’t!!
      
      Thank you.
      
      As I said, Liu has had his uses, he’s no longer known ; an ‘Unperson’ if you will…
      
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      November 14, 2016 4:17pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Homosexual propaganda targeting primary school kids. That’s how degenerate Western culture is now:

UNICORNS are QUEER HORSES!! – Queer: QUEER KID STUFF #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtrfHbCqnCU

Lots of feminist involvement of course.
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November 14, 2016 1:49pm
sooty

The prescious snowflake petals that oppose Trump should wear two safety pins. One warn threw the mouth lips to stop sprouting shit and the other warn threw the arsehole lips to stop it leaking out.
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November 14, 2016 1:55pm
Komata

MM

Net vir jou:

Jy het gister gesê jy ‘geweet wat Apartheid was eintlik graag’. op grond waarvan, het ek gevra hoe jy kan weet en as jy op ‘n tyd het in Suid-Afrika of Rhodesië / Zimbabwe was. Jy het my nie die vergunning van ‘n antwoord gegee – tog, so weer, my vraag Hoe kan jy weet en as jy op ‘n tyd het in Suid-Afrika of Rhodesië / Zimbabwe was ‘? Jou antwoord word afgewag met rente.

Dankie.
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November 14, 2016 1:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  Pining for the good old days ?
  
  https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3d/73/3d/3d733d037a1b0c6913cb3e7ed8f743fb.jpg
  
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  November 14, 2016 2:52pm
  - Komata
    
    SB
    
    Not at all, merely seeking clarification of a statement that MM made yesterday. Since he evidently ‘Knows what Apartheid actually is’ (his words BTW, not mine) I’m just asking for details. Apparently he actually IS a Jaapie (something he has not denied), so I expect he will have no trouble in replying in his own language.
    
    So far he doesn’t seem inclined to reply, and given his normal loquaciousness, one does wonder why this might be…
    
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    November 14, 2016 3:46pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Verstaan jy wat Komata sê of het jy net Google vertaal gebruik?
    
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    November 14, 2016 8:59pm
- mikenmild
  
  I have not been to the moon, so I cannot personally confirm that it is not made of green cheese.
  
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  November 14, 2016 5:18pm
Keeping Stock

Wins at the World Rugby Awards to the All Blacks (Team of the Year), Steve Hansen (Coach of the Year) and Beauden Barrett (Player of the Year)

Have a nice day big bruv and Longknives 😀
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November 14, 2016 2:09pm
- Manolo
  
  Bruv is over the moon and cannot believe the news. Loyal to the ABs to the bitter end.
  
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  November 14, 2016 4:02pm
tom hunter

A brief YouTube compilation that can be enjoyed

And then enjoyed again and again: Who’s Laughing Now

Must go and see what John Oliver did for his post-election snark.
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November 14, 2016 3:41pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Hilarious tom
  
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  November 14, 2016 7:32pm
  - tom hunter
    
    And no sign of Oliver yet on YouTube. I would have thought the Saturday show would have been uploaded pronto – by Trump supporters if nobody else.
    
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    November 14, 2016 7:56pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  John Oliver, like most of Hillary’s media friends, thinks that Ethics is north east of London.
  
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  November 14, 2016 9:33pm
  - mikenmild
    
    It’s almost as if he is a comedian instead of a serious journalist.
    
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    November 14, 2016 9:37pm
Manolo

Some European prima donnas are showing disquiet:
https://www.ft.com/content/bd74b6de-a9ba-11e6-809d-c9f98a0cf216

Britain and France on Sunday night snubbed a contentious EU emergency meeting to align the bloc’s approach to Donald Trump’s election, exposing rifts in Europe over the US vote.
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November 14, 2016 4:07pm
Manolo

Our own dime has expressed interest:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/561149/Sex-robots-RealDoll-Matt-McMullen-naked-lifelike-human-women-real-bedroom-toys

The hot cyborgs set to get fellas’ pulses racing are going to be “like real humans” with a “pulse” and “lifelike warm skin”.

Daily Star Online also revealed the realistic sexbots will “talk dirty” and “respond” to their human lovers. 😀
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November 14, 2016 4:27pm
- nasska
  
  ….”“like real humans” with a “pulse” and “lifelike warm skin”.”….
  
  If the manufacturers swap out the heads for punching bags & mutilate the sexy bits they’ll go down a treat in the Middle East.
  
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  November 14, 2016 4:40pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    The best way to maximise Middle East sales would be to ask Stephieboy to advise on the ideal specifications for nubile breasts. That way they could be used as a blow-up doll and as a mannequin in cafes!
    
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    November 14, 2016 4:59pm
- tom hunter
  
  My god, they’ll be running for Parliament next!
  
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  November 14, 2016 5:07pm
nasska

Please Nostra…..never use “blow up doll” & “stephieboy” in the same sentence.

He might take it the wrong way & detonate Mt Roskill!
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November 14, 2016 5:06pm
- Nostradamus
  
  When you say Stephieboy may “take it the wrong way”, Nasska, are you suggesting he might sneak in through the back entrance?
  
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  November 14, 2016 5:18pm
  - nasska
    
    There’s an ancient Muslim saying:
    
    “A woman for work, a goat for love but a boy for ecstasy.”
    
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    November 14, 2016 5:21pm
- Manolo
  
  But only after voting Labour in the by-election!
  
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  November 14, 2016 5:34pm
itstricky

I know Reid has speculated on Trump being another puppet of the real rulers…

I really had no idea how hard life was on your average modern conspiracy theorist until I read this from earlier on.

Poor blokes, forever internally conflicted.
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November 14, 2016 5:30pm
- mikenmild
  
  I’m relying on Reid to sort this one out pronto. His webshite sources are usually ahead of the curve on things like this.
  
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  November 14, 2016 5:49pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    So how does the logic work?
    
    1. A secret cabal controls the world.
    2. The secret cabal is so powerful that they control Donald Trump (a man who, by any other measure, isn’t accustomed to being told what to do).
    3. The secret cabal is so powerful that they made a majority of people vote for Donald Trump.
    4. The secret cabal is so powerful that they control the media and, through that control, made most of us think that a majority of people would vote for Hillary Clinton.
    
    What dots aren’t I connecting?
    
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    November 14, 2016 5:55pm
    - mikenmild
      
      And when you consider that the internal logic is the strongest part of the argument…
      
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      November 14, 2016 5:59pm
    - Reid
      
      1. A secret cabal controls the world.
      
      Power structures exist all over the universe. Why is it so hard to believe Earth is part of it?
      
      2. The secret cabal is so powerful that they control Donald Trump (a man who, by any other measure, isn’t accustomed to being told what to do).
      
      Controlling the POTUS isn’t power, they’ve done it since forever, it’s easy. Sometimes, they’re recalcitrent, but those ones don’t last very long. Below is a 60 minutes piece on what they use to make them do their bidding.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfNeB6Hx7N0
      
      3. The secret cabal is so powerful that they made a majority of people vote for Donald Trump.
      
      The election was rigged, but it was rigged for Trump, Comey played a perfectly timed one-two, Obama said nothing to call out his significant constituency of blacks (Big Tell) and the rest was small adjustments at the margins.
      
      Sheeple are sheeple everywhere mate.
      
      4. The secret cabal is so powerful that they control the media and, through that control, made most of us think that a majority of people would vote for Hillary Clinton.
      
      OK so if they don’t control the media how did they get such lockstep compliance with the anti-Trump message prior to the election, and how come they’re letting Soros get away with organising anti-Trump protest movements and a colour revolution, the purple revolution?
      
      If they don’t control the media how could they possibly align and coordinate the message like that?
      
      I don’t care about the message I patiently explain to people like stephie, I merely observe the level of control necessary to achieve that lockstep alignment.
      
      And BTW, sometimes different factions of “them” don’t agree with each other.
      
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      November 14, 2016 8:10pm
      - EAD
        
        Indeed Reid,
        
        the fact the MSM all reportsin lockstep should be a big tell.
        
        As should the fact that all European countries have been earmarked for the same treatment, using the same methods of implementation, at the same time without anyones consent should be another tell.
        
        Another tell of course would be looking at who funds all of the mainstream parties and the controlled opposition.
        
        But the biggest tell would be if the sheeple would disconnect from the material world and all of it’s distractions and actually think about the money question – how it is produced, who benefits, who loses and what is the system used for?
        
        That would require actual thinking though and perhaps people reaching some uncomfortable conclusions.
        
        “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning” – Henry Ford
        
        and here is Woodrow Wilson had to say about his signing of the Federal Reserve Actin 1913 when he admitted that when he signed it, he didn’t even understand what it was.
        
        He was told to sign it by those he trusted… but when he found out months later what he had done, he had great anguish over it when he exclaimed:
        
        “”I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
        
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        November 14, 2016 8:46pm
      - EAD
        
        And for those in the dark about the nature of our money system and wishing to find out more, this book here is a great place to start:
        
        https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986212
        
        Here is one of the 5 star reviews on Amazon:
        
        “This book will make your hair grisle up on the nape of your neck when you read it. This is a non fiction horror story of how the federal reserve came to be the controlling factor in our everyday lives. It chronicles history in such a fantastic way that when you research it and find it TRUE, it makes your guts wrench in utter dispair at the situation we have gotten into by entrusting financiers to our monetary system. If you want to know ANYTHING about the economy, this is the book to read. Though I must say that it is not for the faint of heart in the predictions it makes.”
        
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        November 14, 2016 8:53pm
      - Reid
        
        Agree EAD. As President Andrew Jackson (who for the readers stopped the first attempt to setup the Fed) put on his headstone:
        
        “I beat the bank”
        
        Sadly these days they’re not just infested in the financial community but all over, like a cancer.
        
        All you need to know your enemy is an open mind and the new gutenburg press. Apparently, there’s a hell of a lot of people who don’t exploit the full benefits of having both available for free.
        
        I just hope they don’t come to regret their decision and it is a decision, made in full consciousness.
        
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        November 14, 2016 9:07pm
Manolo

Barbarians in the midst:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/british-sharia-courts-under-scrutiny-075656056.html

For more than 30 years, sharia courts enforcing Islamic law have been operating quietly across Britain. But two official inquiries have put them in the spotlight amid accusations that they discriminate against women.

Very little is known about them, even their number, which one study by the University of Reading puts at 30, while the British think tank Civitas estimates there are 85.
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November 14, 2016 5:40pm
- GoVege
  
  Interesting , Manolo.
  And to think it was the brilliant Mrs Thatcher herself who started allowing Sharia Courts back in 1982.
  (In the interests of saving money of course.)
  A far-sighted woman to whom we all owe a debt of gratitude….
  
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  November 14, 2016 11:22pm
starboard

Hilarious listening to the talking heads on the news trying to get their tongues around the word “Kaikoura “…Kai-cora.
Not Kai-cow-ra
Kai-co-ra
Kai- coo-ra
Its ‘Kai-cora’ dickheads.
Wendy Petrie having severe difficulty.
Also, signage on the TV 1 map shows “Hamner”
Its fucking “Hanmer” you braindeads.
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November 14, 2016 6:08pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Starboard:
  
  Its fucking “Hanmer” you braindeads.
  
  Do you suppose having MC Hammer’s “You Can’t Touch This” on autoplay might help?
  
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  November 14, 2016 6:20pm
  - starboard
    
    How hard can it be ? They bastardise the english language then make cnuts of themselves trying oh so hard to wrap their tongues around a stupid stone age language just to appease the stoneagers!..oh, and Wendy..’Inland’..not ‘Inlind’.
    
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    November 14, 2016 6:44pm
    - itstricky
      
      Can you do parodies of John Key’s pronunciation too?
      
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      November 14, 2016 7:42pm
      - tom hunter
        
        That’s “Gabby”‘s role here on Kiwiblog.
        
        It’s very clever Axtuuly! Vote winner in 2017.
        
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        November 14, 2016 8:01pm
      - Gabby
        
        Ennthday, priddirlacksabada prunsashn. Dimmadda unna preevislabagump, dummadda near, rilly.
        
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        November 14, 2016 8:06pm
      - itstricky
        
        Despite some of your questionable comments I’m quite a fan of your Trump parodies, Gabby. I thought they were well placed, despite the flurry of downticks.
        
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        November 14, 2016 8:33pm
    - itstricky
      
      PS since when was saying a place name an ‘appeasement’?
      
      Or does Kaikoura have an English name that you like to use often?
      
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      November 14, 2016 7:43pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Surely we are not going to concede to Maori the right to dictate how Maori names are pronounced.
        Political correctness gone mad.
        
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        November 14, 2016 8:44pm
- Brigitte
  
  Absolutely. And the way to remember is that “there’s no ham in Hanmer, and no sun in Sumner”.
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:10pm
  - itstricky
    
    And remember kiddies, if you try to pronounce Maori correctly it’s appeasement, but if you try to pronounce English correctly, that’s just good manners.
    
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    November 14, 2016 8:37pm
    - starboard
      
      Yup.
      
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      November 15, 2016 6:52pm
tom hunter

Just in case “Trev” is reading, more new information on fracking and ground water….

Read the whole thing where they link to the detailed report – but I really liked this part:

Since the contaminants found in the test wells didn’t match anything going into the ground at the fracking site, the DEQ finally sent a camera down into the wells. What do you suppose they found? First of all, the EPA well was drilled in a defective fashion. The artificial materials in the well almost certainly came from the drilling process when the EPA dug the wells.

Second, the junk they allowed in there clogged the screens down at the base of the well. This allowed stagnant, standing water to build up at the bottom and it became infested with bacteria and biological agents. (As happens with any stagnant pools of water.) The bacterial infestation was what was causing the smell. The origin of the problem the EPA has been complaining about since 2011 was almost certainly caused by… you guessed it… the EPA.

And then we have people freaking out about what Donald’s team might do to the EPA. Fucking incompetence like that combined with the power they have means only one thing to me: burn the EPA to the ground.

At a minimum, just disband the D.C. fuckers and transfer them out to state versions of the agency. Why should such buereacrats sit in humid D.C. when bracing Alaska awaits, or baking Texas – or even more humid Louisiana.
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November 14, 2016 6:09pm
- Reid
  
  But of course tom, you know those reports can be bought. But of course tom, in this case, naturally it wasn’t bought.. It couldn’t have been, could it. And even if it was, this doesn’t mean it’s full of bollocks, does it. Of course not.
  
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  November 14, 2016 6:44pm
- tom hunter
  
  And then there’s this news from this precious arm of the ~~American Civil Service~~ US Democrat Party…
  
  U.S. EPA employees were in tears. Worried Energy Department staffers were offered counseling. Some federal employees were so depressed, they took time off. Others might retire early.
  
  And some employees are in downright panic mode in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s victory.
  
  “People are upset. Some people took the day off because they were depressed,” said John O’Grady, president of American Federation of Government Employees Council 238, a union that represents thousands of EPA employees. After Election Day, “people were crying,” added O’Grady, who works in EPA’s Region 5 office in Chicago. “They were recommending that people take sick leave and go home.”
  
  Firings. Redundancies. I want to see them – lots of them.
  
  Besides which – given that of the ten richest counties in the USA, seven lie around Washington D.C. and Obama and Clinton won them all – depopulating them of these “civil servants” would deal a second direct blow to the Democrat Party.
  
  It’s been less than a week but somehow I’m not yet tired of watching Cartman licking the tears of Unfathomable Sadness.
  
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  November 14, 2016 6:45pm
Reid

Der Fuhrer rids himself of Rohm and improves his public image at the same time. What a clever boy.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-dumps-christ-post/2016/11/13/id/758606/?ns_mail_uid=5180173&ns_mail_job=1695917_11132016&s=al&dkt_nbr=odldmxqo
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November 14, 2016 6:10pm
- Gabby
  
  Your minion has learnt well… Reid. Not long until you can add his eternal soul to your hoard of trophies.
  
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  November 14, 2016 8:08pm
Reid

Lefties have another spasm. Fuck this is funny. Twitch lefty, twitch in the wind.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…

Stay angry. That’s the only way to uphold principles in Trump’s America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/11/stay-angry-thats-the-only-way-to-uphold-principles-in-trumps-america/?tid=ss_tw&utm_content=bufferb0e48&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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November 14, 2016 6:14pm
Reid

He has been described as “the most dangerous political operative in America.” Now he is one of the most powerful.

Steve Bannon has been announced as Donald Trump’s chief strategist. On Sunday night Mr Trump’s team confirmed that Reince Priebus had been appointed chief of staff.

But, in a telling twist, Mr Bannon, 62, was named first on the list, and described as Mr Priebus’s “equal” – a word that may be causing alarm in the capital…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/14/steve-bannon-who-is-the-donald-trumps-chief-strategist-and-why-i/
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November 14, 2016 8:45pm
- nasska
  
  I followed your link Reid.
  
  Mr Bannon is sure likely to upset the bleeding hearts. The next four years are going to be fun.
  
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  November 14, 2016 9:18pm
Nostradamus

Mikenmild:

26,002 comments

How will you celebrate this milestone? A night out drinking with your best buddies (EAD, Reid and Starboard)? 🙂
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November 14, 2016 9:04pm
- nasska
  
  He’ll shout himself a new keyboard. 🙂
  
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  November 14, 2016 9:07pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    Surely after 26,000 comments (and counting) Mikenmild has earned the right to leave his bedroom and get some fresh air!
    
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    November 14, 2016 9:11pm
  - Reid
    
    I think he’ll carefully comb his moustache, practice sneering rather arrogantly in the mirror for a short time then steal into the night, to make mischief and who knows what.
    
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    November 14, 2016 9:13pm
    - Gabby
      
      How do you groom… Reid? Given your problem with mirrors, I mean.
      
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      November 14, 2016 9:43pm
- mikenmild
  
  Maybe a cup of tea.
  Unless tea drinking is a Jewish conspiracy to subvert the natural order.
  
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  November 14, 2016 9:09pm
Fletch

The entire 60 Minutes interview with Trump and his family. He answers questions about a lot of the issues. Free to view (39 minutes long). One interesting thing is that he said he will not be accepting a presidential salary. By law he has to accept something, so he will take $1.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/
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November 14, 2016 9:10pm
mikenmild

Progress from Australia:
http://www.betootaadvocate.com/advocate-in-focus/one-nation-considers-changing-party-name-to-remove-arabic-numeral/
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November 14, 2016 9:39pm
nasska

For a list of all the ways technology has failed to
improve the quality of life, please press three.
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November 14, 2016 9:41pm
BeeSting

http://www.betootaadvocate.com/advocate-in-focus/one-nation-considers-changing-party-name-to-remove-arabic-numeral/

Giggle Giggle Giggle – it is the only party
that recognises the rights of All NZers of every race colour or creed in Australia?

Gigggle Giggle Giggle

Multi- Culturalism is an “exclusive club” in Australia that excludes New Zealanders

http://www.onenation.com.au/policies

Yep the only person who cares about hardworking Kiwis in Aus is…..”Hanson”

http://www.onenation.com.au/policies/nz-citizenship

The Truth Hurts

<
This would restore Russell Crowe’s eligibility for Australian citizenship. If Russell Crowe is good enough to be put on our Australian stamp as an Australian legend, then why deny him the right to become an Australian citizen if he so wishes.

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November 15, 2016 12:21am
- mikenmild
  
  The Beetoota Advocate is not at all being satirical, but is genuinely supportive of Pauline Hanson’s bid to rid Australia of Arab influences.
  Likewise, I am sure it will be genuinely supportive of your campaign to support the oppressed Russell Crowe.
  
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  November 15, 2016 6:46am
Manolo

Chicago vows to continue this crazy policy:
http://www.politico.com/states/illinois/story/2016/11/defying-trump-major-cities-vow-to-remain-immigrant-sanctuaries-107313
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November 15, 2016 6:40am
Manolo

The anti-American Soros readies his weapons:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/14/soros-prepares-for-trump-war/

George Soros and his fellow liberal mega-donors are currently readying the post-Hillary Clinton Democratic party to oppose President-Elect Donald Trump.
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