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Harriet

I can’t find the link in Aussie, but a prof has come out and said IVF treatment is breeding children who go on to have fertility problems themselves, mostly males, and that it is also very expensive to treat. He said ultimate child bearing age is 18-20 – not 30-37, and the live birth rates of IVF kids with natural kids correspond with age.

His article is also centered around the cost of IVF – as a study several years ago at Monash said it is immoral for women to put child birth off for ‘social reasons’ – whatever they may be – and then to seek assistance from medical resources and govt funding later on. You also have to remember most of these women have earned degrees, earned salaries, and have saved money. And most obviously have working partners and husbands.

Like I said Pay As You Go sexual healthcare.
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November 12, 2016 8:06am
- Viking2
  
  Read that and happen to agree. The body is timing out after 30 and I see no reason for taxpayers fronting up to solve the problem they create for themselves.
  Occasionally there are natural issues which cause the infertility and I have no issue with the help needed there.
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:27am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Immoral my tits.
    
    If you do not want the next generation to be entirely made up of below average intelligence and poorly raised sprogs of baby farming welfare mums (who are waaaay more expensive than IVF) then it makes sense to do whatever you can to enable and encourage smart women to have babies.
    
    Given that they all have busy careers and social lives in their 20’s you need to make it possible for them to breed when older. Their higher than average intelligence kids are worth at least a million in extra tax over their life compared to a thicko.
    
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    November 12, 2016 6:00pm
artemisia

Brilliant satire from the WSJ. Must be. Surely ….

Colleges Try to Comfort Students Upset by Trump Victory – Despair over Clinton’s loss prompts ‘cry-in’ at Cornell; Play-Doh for the distraught

Dozens of students at Cornell University gathered on a major campus thoroughfare for a “cry-in” to mourn the results of the 2016 presidential election Wednesday, with school staff providing tissues and hot chocolate.

At Tufts University, arts and crafts were on offer. And the University of Kansas reminded students via social media of the therapy dogs available for comfort every other Wednesday.

“People are frustrated, people are just really sad and shocked,” said Trey Boynton, the director of multi-ethnic student affairs at the University of Michigan. “A lot of people are feeling like there has been a loss.

There was a steady flow of students entering Ms. Boynton’s office Wednesday. They spent the day sprawled around the center, playing with Play-Doh and coloring in coloring books, as they sought comfort and distraction.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/11/09/colleges-try-to-comfort-students-upset-by-trump-victory/
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November 12, 2016 8:10am
- Southern Raider
  
  Well Yale have students who had election depression the option to not sit mid terms, so above may be true
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:21am
  - peterwn
    
    That is two Ivy League universities where students cannot handle typical life situations. No wonder employers say that universities are not producing job-ready graduates. At Harvard and VUW law schools if you have not done your readings before lectures you get no sympathy.
    
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    November 12, 2016 11:08am
- jonar
  
  Bad times to be a non-white in the States
  
  “A collection of tweets about racist episodes POC are facing now that Trump is our President Elect.”
  http://mondoweiss.net/2016/11/day-trumps-america/
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:10am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    #ShitThatDidntHappen
    
    ” A Muslim student who reported her hijab was pulled from her head and was robbed by President-Elect Donald Trump supporters will now face charges for the false claims.”
    
    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/11/11/muslim-student-charged-trump-hate-crime-hoax/
    
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    November 12, 2016 12:20pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Michael Moore: ‘Millions’ of Obama Voters Changed Their Minds, ‘They’re Not Racists’
    
    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/11/11/michael-moore-millions-of-obama-voters-changed-their-minds-theyre-not-racists/
    
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    November 12, 2016 12:21pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Trump INCREASED the Republican take of hispanic and negro votes.
    
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    November 12, 2016 12:23pm
- Viking2
  
  Best cure for depression is go do some hard work.
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:29am
  - lilman
    
    Pathetic is the way I see all these weak gutted moaners.
    When all said and done ,Americans voted for Trump.
    Trump didn’t vote for himself he was put in by the electorate.
    For a democratic society it is nothing sort of limp wrested the response of the losers.
    If ever there is an example of people demanding theiriright to vote and then disputing others rights to vote as they see fit ,this is it.
    
    I support Trump because he promised change and change is what is needed.
    To carry on the same path will be destuctive for USA and the wider world community.
    
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    November 12, 2016 11:07am
- Fletch
  
  Matt Walsh has another good column on this stuff…
  
  Dear anti-Trump protesters, this temper tantrum is truly embarrassing
  
  But all of the protests add up to nothing in the end, because Trump will still be president. That is the fact of the matter. You may not like the facts but they are still facts. No matter what sign you hold or what slogan you chant, you cannot change the facts at the moment. Indeed, you can’t change them even if you, as one protester suggested, “sue the United States of America” (remember, Trump voters are the uneducated ones). Surprisingly, you also can’t change the facts by constructing a replica of Trump’s head out of paper mache and setting it on fire. The facts remain the facts all the same.
  
  What this all amounts to, then, is a temper tantrum. For the first time Millennials have not gotten their way in a presidential election, and it appears that a great number of us simply cannot handle it. An inability and unwillingness to cope with reality has always been a defining feature of my generation, and never has it been more prominently and embarrassingly displayed. That’s why protests and riots, though they have not been the standard reaction to a presidential election in America up until this point, may well be the new normal with my generation at the helm.
  
  These folks had it all figured out, didn’t they? They knew exactly how they wanted it to go, and now they cannot understand how real life would so stubbornly refuse to line up with their expectations. That’s what strikes me the most about these protesters: the pure shock in their faces. Granted, many of us were shocked by how it turned out — I certainly was — but their shock is different because it’s a kind of hurt and offended shock. Many of us were surprised that the results weren’t at all consistent with the polling data, but they’re surprised that the results weren’t at all consistent with what they, personally, think and feel and want. “How could this happen,” they cry. “It’s not what I wanted!”
  
  Yeah, well you don’t always get what you want, friends. Maybe it’s time you learn that. And yes, you are free to protest legitimate election returns, just as you’re free to protest rain clouds and Charley horses and flat soda. You’re also free to descend from your studio apartment in Chicago or New York and announce to the news cameras that all of these people you know nothing about, who live in parts of the country you probably couldn’t even identify on a map, are racist and hateful and stupid because they didn’t happen to vote for Hillary Clinton. You’re free to do all of those things, but that doesn’t make them mature or reasonable decisions.
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/opinion-dear-anti-trump-protesters-this-temper-tantrum-is-truly-embarrassing/
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:08am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  “A lot of people are feeling like there has been a loss.”
  
  NO SHIT – for you it was called the 2016 US Presidential Election, you muppets.
  
  They’ve been obliterated and these Leftist muppets still manage to trigger me, lol.
  
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  November 12, 2016 12:26pm
Nukuleka

Whereas it is true that Hillary Clinton may well end up having gained the greatest number of votes in the US presidential election, commentators such as the Herald’s John Roughan fail to acknowledge that this is a total irrelevance given the Electoral College system that determines the result. It stands to reason that Trump would have spent very little time campaigning in a heavily Democratic state such as California where the Electoral College votes for Clinton were a foregone conclusion. Why waste his time? The game plan for his campaign would have been entirely different had the popular vote been the prime objective. Trump would probably have been the winner of the popular vote also had it been that which was required for victory.
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November 12, 2016 8:12am
- wiseowl
  
  Last night Lush was arguing with callers that Clinton received the most votes, implying that she should have won the election.
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:28am
  - mikenmild
    
    That was Trump’s position in 2012, but obviously not now.
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:38am
    - Ross12
      
      He may have argued that in 2012 and if it was changed would have accepted it. But it wasn’t changed and the rules for this election were the status quo, as zvet and Tom Hunter kept reminding us. ( I think zvet said something like ” there are effectively 50 elections going on at once” )
      
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      November 12, 2016 8:55am
      - mikenmild
        
        Sure, just pointing out that people’s view on the voting system tend to change with the relative success of their side.
        
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        November 12, 2016 8:59am
      - Ross12
        
        Yes MM . In this case it appears to be the Democrats
        who fit the ” people’s view on the voting system tend to change with the relative success of their side.” which is not the point you were making @ 8.38am
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:10am
  - Inandout
    
    I am always amused by Lush’s political opinions, this railway train enthusiast.
    
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    November 12, 2016 9:57am
- Fletch
  
  While we’re at it, we could also change the rules of cricket so that the Black Caps win next time. I’m sure there are some rules that some deem not fair.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:12am
Captain Mainwaring

You’ll all be delighted to hear that the great self-proclaimed oracle, the marvellous Lizzie Marvelly, part-time singer of the National Anthem, disagrees with the election of Trump.
Bohoohoohoo.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11745507
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November 12, 2016 8:14am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Poor little Snowflake, having to drown her sorrows with scotch…
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:20am
  - Paulus
    
    Chardonnay surely the drink of the Left Wing.
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:32am
- G152
  
  I heard a term the other day that describes her to a T..
  Broken arse leftie
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:29am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Not unlike the other leftie now employed by the Herald to right “opinion-pieces”; the one who made a clear threat of physical violence towards DPF, which she herself said was deadly serious.
    
    Those who made the New Zealand Herald the country’s premier newspaper must be spinning in their graves at the tabloid shite that is dipensed today.
    
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    November 12, 2016 11:40am
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      ” made a clear threat of physical violence”
      
      Sigh, lesbians…
      
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      November 12, 2016 12:29pm
      - sam green
        
        The only difference between you and a lesbian is a couple of glasses of cab sav my dear.
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:08pm
- Souvlaki
  
  Perhaps we’ve all been suckered…..are her meanderings a poor attempt at satire…that have bypassed us all??
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:07am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Nope; thick as two short planks
    
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    November 12, 2016 9:53am
- Flash
  
  We could make her a full-time singer of the National Anthem and then she wouldn’t have tie to write her rubbish.
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:10pm
Stars And Stripes

Dying ex-prisoner Vicki Letele speaks out, tells of her anger about lack of care inside.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11746570.
“”I really want to enjoy every day I have. Seeing my family, seeing my boys [and] seeing my girl grow … I really want to study a Bachelor of Theology.”

Oh cool you are going to study a Bachelor of Theology.
Well make sure you apply for a student loan(maybe even a fraudulent one) so you can have one last bludge off society before you leave.
I’m sure finding god at this time will help you feel absolved of your dirty deeds but for others like myself well I am not that easily sucked in by your sob story.
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November 12, 2016 8:16am
- Nukuleka
  
  Forgive my unfeeling and insensitive comments but I thought that convicted fraudster Vicki Letele had been granted leave to be with her family because she was close to death. And she is telling us that she is going to have the time to study for a degree in Theology? Ummm… What aren’t I quite getting about this?
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:21am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    It will be wasist to deny a tangata whenua the opportunity to live (ha ha, like that is going to happen!) her dream!
    
    Wait for the head melon without a penis but behaving like a dick, to step into the fray!
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:27am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    You are unkind and unfeeling. If you and other anonymous commenters think it acceptable that prisoners be denied reasonable medical care that is not what the majority think. Judith Collins and John Key listened. Seven weeks to see a specialist is unacceptable.
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:41am
    - Viking2
      
      Ah no. She was released to be with her family while she is apparently dieing of a terminal disease.
      Her unreality is that it ain’t going to happen and she will continue to rort someone to pay her money to study the sky fairy. Too late for that or send her back to jail as she has hood winked everybody. (quite possible given her history).
      
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      November 12, 2016 9:33am
      - sooty
        
        One of the conditions for release, should have been to keep her big trap shut and be thankful!
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:51am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Seriously folks – this kind of virtue signalling is fuelling the Trump effect here! This woman was guilty of fraud on a major scale – worse she was doing it by preying on the poor and ignorant in her own community.
  
  So what next?
  
  A teacher who has sex with underage boys gets terminal breast cancer – do we release her?
  
  A drug dealer gets terminal anus cancer – are we going to release her?
  
  A pedophile gets terminal dick cancer – are we going to release them?
  
  A mass murderer gets terminal nose cancer – are we going to release them too?
  
  This is the problem with vapid virtue signalling – the moment you think about the precedents you set – it starts to open the doors for all sorts of stupidity!
  
  Cue a vast rush to seek early release because of illnesses and even minor incapacities (on compassionate grounds of course).
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:27am
  - Paulus
    
    Only if the are Maori.
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:33am
    - Chuck Bird
      
      With the number of up ticks for that totally ridiculous comment it is clear there are many anti-Maori and anti-PI people in NZ.
      
      I think it highly unlikely that there are no judges or senior parole board members who are also not racist.
      
      Fortunately, the leaders of every political party in parliament thought Vicky should get out and not just when it seemed she had 3 to 5 days left to live.
      
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      November 12, 2016 10:43am
      - holysheet
        
        If this piece of shit had a conscious, she would spend her time left in trying to repay those she defrauded. But no no mention at all about them.
        It never ceases to amaze me the number of criminals who suddenly find the sky fairy at this time in their life. What would be the point in her studying theology, other than to make herself look good in the future when she sees the sky fairy?
        
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        November 12, 2016 10:55am
      - waikatogirl
        
        It is not that she is Maori, it is her conviction that has got the attention of most. Going to be a quick theology study if she is to fit it in before her demise in 3-5 days, or even a few weeks.
        
        Suckered again!
        
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        November 12, 2016 12:38pm
      - Paulus
        
        I thought she was diagnosed with 5 Months to live and she is going to get a Divinity Degree in that time.
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:16pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Those are very good questions. There are those like Ken Workman and others who believe that we should act in a similar ways to any criminal including the likes of the POS who raped and murdered Blessie Gotingco. I am certainly not one of those.
    
    In this case that lack of even minimal medical treatment Vicky received was proof the prison service could not care for her in a humane way.
    
    I think there will be a complaint to the Health and Disability Commissioner. It will be interesting to see what the report says.
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:51am
    - starboard
      
      ” wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah”…..
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:01pm
      - sam green
        
        Awww starboard. Get those ladyboys to wipe your tears. Poor thing.
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:13pm
- lilman
  
  Fuck her,send her back.
  
  Why wasnt she asked for the money to be paid up front.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:10am
DifferentPerspective

The Plan for the first 100 days

Sounds pretty good – in fact Key could learn something from this (although Winston is going to ensure he isn’t PM after the General Election).

(I thought I should post this hear for all the cretins who’ve been parroting the “But he doesn’t have any policies” bullshit all week – although they have (most gratifyingly) been doing it in between their sobs of impotent rage)
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November 12, 2016 8:17am
- waikatogirl
  
  Are they the same people who have signed up to the TOPcat party even though Gareth doesn’t have any policies yet?
  
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  November 12, 2016 12:43pm
oldpark

Will be great to see CNN or Clinton News Channel ,led by all the anti Trump media, will finally start reporting the abuse and condemnation ,of why almost sixty million people voted for Donald Trump. Maybe our sicko pathetic NZ so called Mainstream Media will lead the charge,and report the vicious attacks and assaults on Trump voters. Perhaps they might even report why Clinton/Obama sycophants dont care for democracy and democratic elections.To expect that miracle happening, it has as much chance as the North Korean dictator Kim Jung-Un resigning and going into a monastery.
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November 12, 2016 8:19am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Or something as simple as Kim stopping cutting his own hair
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:31am
- Gabby
  
  Why did Ponyboy congratulate Kim Jung-Un on becoming dictator of North Korea?
  
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  November 12, 2016 1:43pm
  - starboard
    
    Link to that giblet…you do know what a l-i-n-k
    is ?
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:03pm
    - Gabby
      
      Why didn’t Ponyboy congratulate Kim Jung-Un on becoming dictator of North Korea?
      
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      November 12, 2016 3:08pm
Southern Raider

Three days on and every media outlet and social media feed is still full with articles and shares from liberal snowflakes exposing how basically “uneducated white people” shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

It’s going to be a sad world once all these snowflakes finish college and university and start implementing their socialist mantras
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November 12, 2016 8:25am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Or applying for jobs from those uneducated white people
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:34am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  True, the most revealing thing about these so called protests is they show how much regard for democracy these faux-Democrats have.
  
  We lost, you won – can we demand a do over?
  
  Listen up Democrats – you picked the most corrupt, repugnant, unelectable candidate possible. You forgot the wise words of that other great Republican – Abraham Lincoln (you know the one that opposed all the Democrats wanting to keep slavery). He said you can’t fool all the people all the time – well Democrats, the game was up and you failed to pull off the spoof this time and your unelectable candidate didn’t get elected.
  
  You have only yourselves to blame. Kind of like Labour here suggesting to the electorate that Phil Goff was electable (in 2011), or that Cunliffe was in 2014, or that Little will be in 2017, or that Robertson will be in 2020, or that Adern will be in 2013 etc etc.
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:37am
  - Viking2
    
    Talking of Goff I see that the Auckland council has voted against drilling for oil at sea around Auckland. I kid you not. Apparently it was so important and what makes it a joke is that the council spent 600K yep on a new statement to describe Auckland.
    I despair that they will ever cut their costs.
    Goff started out good with chopping the fight funding but the system screwed then in the end.
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11746553
    Auckland council bureaucrats have spent $500,000 on a new city slogan, which has already been condemned as “outrageous” by some councillors and does not have the support of new mayor Phil Goff.
    
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    November 12, 2016 9:42am
    - Reid
      
      What’s wrong with City of Sails? Why do they need to “re-brand” every ten or so years? What the fuck difference does it really actually truly make? Who on earth is so fucking stupid that a city’s “brand” influences their decision as to whether or not to visit or live there? Who makes their decision or even finds the website, based on a city’s slogan? What’s Hong Kong’s slogan these days? What’s NYC’s? What’s Washington’s?
      
      It’s insane irrelevant marketing bollocks that simply adds no value whatsoever, apart from to the consultants who work on this evidently very complicated issue which apparently takes a whole team two entire years to tackle.
      
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      November 12, 2016 11:09am
      - sooty
        
        Hay, it’s not their money they are spending! Just hit the ratepayers for some more.
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:56am
      - Gabby
        
        The devil makes work for idle hands… Reid. But of course you know that.
        
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        November 12, 2016 3:11pm
- howitis
  
  I’ll repost what I posted yesterday with some modification:-
  NZ.
  Born circa 1955. 4% of cohort gets an undergraduate degree.
  Born circa 1995. 26% of cohort gets a degree. More than half of that is lightweight non career -achieving nonsense (aka. hobby shite with 80% taxpayer subsidy) .
  
  Massey Uni is a dead loss. Pleased to see Professor Jacqueline Rowarth bailed but went to Waikato which is marginal. Otago has turned to dogs bollocks in the last 15 years and enables Bryce Weird- Hair, Dougie Spellbound and this crazy PhD psycho student from Otago:-
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3925820/amp/PhD-student-Katherine-Ann-McWilliams-causes-trail-destruction-driving-Dunedin-New-Zealand.html
  …Katherine Ann McWilliams was driving the unwarranted and unregistered vehicle through Dunedin, … while on bail for two unrelated charges of assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest.
  She slammed into two cars at a shopping centre, hit a retaining wall, and her wheels were spinning as she drove narrowly missing pedestrians crossing at the time. ….
  She hit a Toyota station wagon which included a toddler and continued on her way ….
  
  How are tertiary quals helping things?
  About 60% of NZ graduates from tertiary are now women (ergo 40% are male, or confused).
  Yet we are told women earn 12% less that men in NZ (on KB about a week ago).
  It would seem tertiary qualification with the mass produced crap of non career achieving > sociology, anthropology and Wimins studies is not an asset itself and gives no right to claim intellectual superiority.
  Lizzie’s rantings should support that.
  
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  November 12, 2016 10:55am
- lilman
  
  Bottom line you can put Hillarys defeat down to 1 failure and that was the lack of support from Black Americans.
  
  Forget whitelash and uneducated whites,it was the fact that if she had got support from 1 percent more blacks across the electoral college she would have won by atleast 52 electoral votes putting her at 315 .
  
  This was explained by CNN and not widely reported by other outlets.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:14am
- Gabby
  
  You could have doubled your points if you’d worked ‘virtue signalling’ in as well.
  
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  November 12, 2016 1:44pm
Harriet

“I’m building a million man army. And we are going to finish off all you prog, Marxist commie filth once and for all.” – Redbaiter.

“Ha ha fuck off biggest loser!” – MM – Davaseline – Nasska…..Key…

I miss Redbaiter……if he was here he would grab you bitches by the man pussy!

And you’d love it! 😎
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November 12, 2016 8:30am
- nasska
  
  …..”I’m building a million man army. And we are going to finish off all you prog, Marxist commie filth once and for all.”…..
  
  And instead he stands on the edge of the abyss tweeting like a tween to his seven sycophantic fans.
  
  Loser! 🙂
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:37am
  - mikenmild
    
    Only 999,999 members still to recruit…
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:42am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Another call for the missing million. . . .
      
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      November 12, 2016 9:06am
  - Harriet
    
    See bitches – yooooose just love it! 😎
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:44am
    - Griff
      
      Yip I miss redtwot
      he was so funny .
      Prog Marxist hippy scum need a laugh to you know,
      
      At the moment we hare having a good one at all the confused rightwingers” charring for a lefty named trump.
      
      Protectionism is far left government control of industry .
      Picking winners…. quotas and tariffs leave us all out of ts pocket in the final accounting .
      
      Such government interference only only end up benefiting those with the inside voice. Trump “the outsider” has made billions on being a insider slewing the tax liability’s on his developments.
      
      The low info are to stupid to acknowledge reality.
      
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      November 12, 2016 9:02am
      - All_on_Red
        
        You have to laugh at someone who can’t spell sneering about how ‘low info’ are stupid.
        
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        November 12, 2016 10:24am
Morrissey

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The Ku Klux Klan will host a victory parade in Pelham, North Carolina to celebrate the election of KKK-endorsed Donald Trump.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-kkk-trump-north-carolina-1478822255-htmlstory.html
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November 12, 2016 8:34am
- Southern Raider
  
  You complete snowflake.
  
  Democrats started the KKK
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:37am
  - mikenmild
    
    Yet now the KKK supports Republicans – why is that?
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:43am
    - stephieboy
      
      I wonder if it is a cue for Comrade Redbaiter and his gaggle of supporters here on KB and elsewhere to oblige the same ?
      
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      November 12, 2016 10:47am
    - lilman
      
      And you have reproduced,explain that?
      
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      November 12, 2016 11:16am
  - Morrissey
    
    The racist South has been solidly Republican since 1968. I shouldn’t have to tell you that, of course, but you are obviously not very well informed.
    
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    November 12, 2016 9:03am
  - Gabby
    
    Virtue signalling.
    
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    November 12, 2016 1:46pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Gabby, could you explain what you mean by that please? Who is virtue signalling here, and over what?
      
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      November 12, 2016 4:46pm
- Garbageman
  
  So what if a bunch of losers support Trump you must have proof that Trump feels the same toward them to be bringing it up so often, if they supported Krooked Killer Klinton the silence from muppets like you would be deafening
  
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  November 12, 2016 10:49am
- Fletch
  
  No mention in the media, either, of the support of Hillary by the Communist Party U.S.A.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:16am
  - Morrissey
    
    But Fletch, was Hillary ever rabidly pro-Communist like Trump was rabidly racist?
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:05pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Hating criminals and terrorists is racist?
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:07pm
      - Morrissey
        
        No, calling Mexicans “rapists and criminals” is racist.
        
        In the same way physically and verbally attacking young women in one’s employment is, to say the very least, sexist.
        
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        November 12, 2016 4:48pm
Mobile Michael

My 2 cents:

1. As Churchill noted, democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all others.
2. Democracy merely is a mechanism for the peaceful transition of governments.
3. Not accepting the election results and rioting over it is the opposite of democracy. You may not like the outcome but you get to vote again in two years – you can’t change the President and the Senate (unless there is a huge landslide) but you can change Congress.
4. I don’t like Trump either, but if you want to be grown ups you have to learn that people don’t have to do what you say. There’s a reason Gen X are calling you Generation Snowflake, and its because we never had the luxury of doing anything other than paying back the largess paid out to Baby Boomers.
5. You backed Hilary Clinton. She’s almost as bad as Trump.
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November 12, 2016 8:35am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  What largesse paid to baby boomers?
  
  Where do I get this largesse? I am sure I have not seen my ‘fair share’ of this largesse
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:41am
  - starboard
    
    You’re white.. you miss out.
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:10pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Male and middle class is not going to help either is it? Uneducated, white, male and middle class, could not be more disadvantaged if I tried really, aside from voting left, oh, and a baby boomer to boot!
      
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      November 12, 2016 4:08pm
    - sam green
      
      Are you white starboard?
      
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      November 12, 2016 11:19pm
- Morrissey
  
  As Churchill noted, democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all others.
  
  Churchill was profoundly anti-democratic, a virulent racist, and an enthusiastic proponent of chemical weapons….
  
  “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes…the objections of the India Office to the use of gas against natives are unreasonable. Gas is a more merciful weapon than high explosive shell, and compels an enemy to accept a decision with less loss of life than any other agency of war….Why is it not fair for a British artilleryman to fire a shell which makes the said native sneeze? It is really too silly.”
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/sep/01/winston-churchill-shocking-use-chemical-weapons
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:45am
  - alloytoo
    
    He was also a lousy lord of the Admiralty, but by golly he was great war time Prime Minister
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:11am
    - Morrissey
      
      Good point. Churchill was a great leader during the war. The British people realized that too, but they also realized he was not fit to lead the country after that, as the 1945 General Election proved.
      
      It is true that a crisis can produce some unlikely heroes. Even a despicable neo-fascist like Rudy Giuliani was an inspirational mayor of New York for a few weeks in 2001.
      
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      November 12, 2016 10:33am
    - Jack5
      
      Alloytoo, I don’t think that, apart from the Gallipoli adventure, Churchill was a “lousy” chief of the Admiralty, but he had limitations.
      
      Here’s a view on Churchill as First Lord of the Admiralty. It’s by the great British naval commander, Jellicoe (better than his successor, the flamboyant Beatty):
      
      It did not take me very long to find out that Mr Churchill was very apt to express strong opinions upon purely technical matters. Moreover, not being satisfied with expressing opinions, he tried to force his view on the Board. His fatal error was his entire inability to realise his own limitations as a civilian.
      
      I admired very much his wonderful argumentative powers. He surpassed the ablest of lawyers and would make a weak case appear exceedingly strong. While this gift of was of great use to the Admiralty when we wanted the naval case put well before the Government, it became a positive danger when the First Sea Lord started to exercise his powers of argument on his colleagues on the Board. Naval officers are not brought up to argue a case and few of them can make a good show in this direction.
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:13pm
  - tom hunter
    
    You are truly a Lefty preserved in aspic from the mid-70’s. A museum piece. The same old, discredited attacks and myths and out-of-context “facts” and half-truths across almost every area of human knowledge, just repeated and repeated and repeated ….
    
    Plus the oldest stance of the Far Left of all: the endless implication that your opponents are stupid and ignorant. How stupid and ignorant do you have to be to look at decades of failing in elections, failing to gain political power, failing in cultural power – and still make these implications about those who have defeated you (and their ideology)?
    
    I’d like to think that you are actually smart enough to know all this and that you’re just trolling here.
    
    Hey! You got me. Congrats!
    
    Or perhaps you really are this stupid and ignorant yourself? Go read Manufacturing Consent again. It’ll make you feel superior again – before the next defeat.
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:40am
    - Morrissey
      
      I recommend you read it once, Tom. Seriously.
      
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      November 12, 2016 10:53am
      - tom hunter
        
        I did – thirty years ago.
        
        Honestly, this is like arguing with a Randian:
        “You must read Atlas Shrugged – IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE”
        
        But you can’t see that for exactly the same reason the Objectivists can’t see it. You really are worthy only of mockery.
        
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        November 12, 2016 10:58am
      - tom hunter
        
        Since you’re really into getting people to read books that will open their minds and change their worldview and blah, blah, blah….
        
        Read this: Hillbilly Elergy
        
        You might get a clue.
        
        But I doubt it.
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:05am
      - Morrissey
        
        I did – thirty years ago.
        
        Really? It wasn’t published until 28 years ago. I don’t believe you’ve even glanced at a single page of it; if you had, you wouldn’t be comparing it to Ayn Rand’s ridiculous bloviation.
        
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        November 12, 2016 1:45pm
  - Jack5
    
    Morrissey, the Churchill message about use of gas was in 1919. The Geneva convention did not ban the use of gas until 1925. The earlier Hague conventions were ignored by all sides in the First World War. France used tear gas in 1914, but the Germans were the first to use poison gas – in April, 1915.
    
    In the paragraph you quote, Morrissey, Churchill was talking about potential use of gas against the “Pathan” tribes in Afghanistan and on the border of north-west Pakistan. These are the same “Pashtuns” (ethnic Afghans) who have battled Western troops in recent years.
    
    I find it interesting that no-one seems to object to the actual use of poison gas by Britain on Russian villages in 1919 during the Allies’ attempts to halt the Bolshevik Revolution. Yet the potential use of gas against Afghans makes people indignant.
    
    Churchill wasn’t a failure as First Lord of the Admiralty. Churchill revived research to develop the first tanks – armoured tractors, they were called first.
    
    The link below explains the naval legacy of the Admiralty’s (that is largely Churchill’s) role in development of the first tanks. This is the names of parts of the vehicles: hatch, hull, bow, and ports.
    
    Churchill was blackened for the strategy of attacking the Dardanelles, but he took responsibility, and in contrition went to the Western Front for several months, serving on the front line as commander of a battalion of the Royal Scots Fusiliers.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_tank
    
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    November 12, 2016 1:27pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Thanks for that excellent response Jack. Many of your points are valid, I think. However, I disagree with your contention that “no-one seems to object to the actual use of poison gas by Britain on Russian villages in 1919.” As the outstanding British scholar Mark Curtis, amongst many others, has pointed out, Britain has a long and dishonorable history of being a rogue state, a consistent violator of international law, a human rights abuser as well as a key supporter of some of the most vicious regimes on the planet.
      
      If by “no-one seems to object” you mean that the media and the political establishment have maintained a near complete veil of silence regarding such matters, then I agree with you.
      
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      November 12, 2016 1:53pm
Manolo

Well said:
http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.co.nz/2016/11/lindsay-perigo-hahahahaha-revenge-of.html

Hijacking the Supreme Court, nurturing the evil that is Islam, dismantling the military, Marxist medicine, Sanctuary Cities for rapists and murderers … all these cornerstones of Obama’s demonic agenda also took a battering from which decent human beings must hope they’ll never recover. (Donald Trump must remember the electorate did reject these abominations and not pander to their perpetrators in the name of “unifying.” Good and evil are irreconcilable.)
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November 12, 2016 8:45am
- mikenmild
  
  ‘demonic views’?
  There has been hysteria from the anti-Trumps, but Lindsay Perigo must get some sort of prize for this drivel.
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:50am
  - Morrissey
    
    Lindsay Perigo was always clueless. Worryingly he appears to be deteriorating.
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:29am
    - starboard
      
      Perigo scares you ..doesn’t he morrissey, scares the living shit out of you and your sort. Good.
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:13pm
      - Morrissey
        
        How exactly would Lindsay Perigo scare anyone? I used to listen to his dire radio show of more than a decade ago. Aside from the daily playing of a Mario Lanza recording, he had nothing to offer the listeners, other than willfully, gleefully butchering Māori names—his only regular correspondent, the ACT cultist and anti-Chinese agitator Deborah Codswallop, used to squeal with delight when he did that, and also when he talked with fake lasciviousness about her gorgeous long legs.
        
        Oh yes, there was now and then some dark humour when some elderly woman caller would tell him earnestly that he needed to “settle down with a nice girl.” Perigo would–to his credit, quite charmingly–gently inform her: “I’m not exactly the marrying kind.”
        
        The rest of his show consisted of quoting something by the ridiculous Ayn Rand, and occasionally speaking to the doddering Jessica Weddell, who was acid-tongued and mean-spirited right to the very end.
        
        In the end I stopped listening to him not because he was offensive or scary, but because he was neither. He was simply too dull to warrant investing any time in. Obviously his station bosses felt the same, because his show was, mercifully, euthanised.
        
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        November 12, 2016 4:59pm
      - sam green
        
        Starboard loves Lindsay. ?
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:25pm
  - Reid
    
    Says a guy who wouldn’t recognise Satan if he were standing right next to him.
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:48am
    - Morrissey
      
      Satan’s in your fevered brain, Reid. He’s not real. Relax, man.
      
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      November 12, 2016 10:52am
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , Satan ? You should talk as an Illuminati enthusiast . George Soros and other Jews thwarted on November 8th ? What now has become of the Conspiracy industry ?
      
      Lindsay Perigo was famous for leading the now long defunct Liberationnz ( I think at best they secured 0.0002 % of the popular vote ) which may help explain his present deluded state of mind .
      
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      November 12, 2016 11:02am
      - lilman
        
        Stephie,lol,Trump will adjust the rules of engagement for the US military.
        
        I love Trump.
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:35am
    - Gabby
      
      Get thee behind me Reid.
      
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      November 12, 2016 1:50pm
DifferentPerspective

CNN even lies about Clinton human interest story

Ahh! Heart-rending! Showing the genuine human side of Hillary. She goes for a walk and chats with complete stranger she’s so warm and natural. Hillary is so at ease you would almost imagine they’d known each other for years…..

And they have. Lies, lies, more lies always lies from Clinton and from the Clinton News Network.

USA dodged a bullet!
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November 12, 2016 8:47am
Stars And Stripes

African wrestler drowns trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11746795
“A popular Gambian wrestler has drowned trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea, the second high-profile athlete from the West African nation in recent weeks to die trying to get to Europe on a boat of migrants”

Probably more useful to be a popular swimmer if you could have a second bite at the cherry.
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November 12, 2016 8:49am
- starboard
  
  Why couldn’t he just apply to move there like everyone else does, rather than cheat the system. Oh well, one less criminal.
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:15pm
kowtow

Another anti democratic elitist wanker, Richard Dwarkins

“The British ethologist and author of the book The God Delusion wrote how “the two largest nations in the English-speaking world have just suffered catastrophes at the hands of voters – in both cases the uneducated, anti-intellectual portion of voters”.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/dawkins-nz-could-be-trump-era-athens
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November 12, 2016 9:01am
- mikenmild
  
  Hi kowtow
  You might be interested to know that DPF has a thread on this. You can find the link on the Kiwiblog home page.
  Please let me know if you need any more help.
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:03am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Yup we’ll be coming to you for help after you demonstrated your sagacity and worldliness in backing Clinton. She who lost the unloseable election against the unelectable ‘joke’ candidate (well according to all the inconsolables in LeftLand).
    
    Yes indeedy, shining light of wisdom and perspicacity that you are (now, where’s my Tui?)
    
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    November 12, 2016 9:11am
    - mikenmild
      
      That was a bit nasty when all I was trying to do was help kowtow.
      But do please link to a comment where I praised Clinton. I noted plenty of times that this was a contest between two hopeless candidates.
      
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      November 12, 2016 9:14am
      - kowtow
        
        Milky , many thanks, you come across very helpful and not in the least bit like a condescending know it all arsehole.
        
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        November 12, 2016 9:32am
      - mikenmild
        
        Great. I try to help where I can.
        
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        November 12, 2016 9:34am
      - holysheet
        
        The amount of back peddling you are doing since Trump trounced your lying Killary, is sickening milky. Do try and accept that you LOST and we WON.
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:00am
      - stephieboy
        
        To be fair to mm he was consistent and often remarked it was a choice between two similar and in his view mediocre candidates !
        
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        November 12, 2016 11:05am
wiseowl

The Trump transition team is going to fill 1000 top level posts.

The start of draining the swamp.Yay.
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November 12, 2016 9:06am
- mikenmild
  
  I’m particularly looking forward to the appointments of new faces like Rudy Guiliani, Newt Gingrich, John Bolton and Chris Christie, who are definitely not part of that old Washington establishment.
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:12am
- Disaster Area
  
  And yet look at the people that are reputed to in the running to be in his cabinet:
  
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-transition-team-members-presidential-advisors-washington-swamp-a7412226.html
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:14am
  - Andrei
    
    He hasn’t announced his cabinet Disaster Area
    
    This is pure speculation from people who are not on the inside
    
    The time for the discussion comes when he has formed his cabinet and I can guarantee that whoever he goes for it will be roundly criticized
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:11am
  - Inandout
    
    There are two months to go before he makes any real decisions.
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:12am
- Reid
  
  This is a critical choice for you can know a person by knowing with whom he surrounds himself.
  
  The neocons are the people I’m keeping on my radar. They were with Clinton and Bush and Obama. They’re chamelions, and they’re doing a transformation right now, to ingratiate themselves. If Trump doesn’t select any of them, it means he’s serious about draining, if he does, it means it’s all just a show for the sheeple.
  
  If John Bolton really is in, that’s a very bad sign.
  
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  November 12, 2016 10:55am
Ross12

“Wonderful” new generation of young people in the USA if this is an example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfJenokrmb4
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November 12, 2016 9:17am
rightoverlabour

Very good article on Fox http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/11/erick-erickson-conservatives-dont-riot-understand-that-individuals-are-good.html

Its time the concept Freedom of Speech is respected. I never discuss politics where I work, because most will vilify me purely on the fact that I am not Left. That is a form of oppression.
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November 12, 2016 9:25am
- jonar
  
  59000000 people voted for Clinton. How many are rioting again?
  
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  November 12, 2016 10:14am
  - All_on_Red
    
    59,000,000 people voted for Trump. How many in the KKK rally?
    Actually Hillary might be there. She was always a great fan of Robert Byrd.
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:18am
    - jonar
      
      How many in the KKK rally?
      
      Exactly. Now can you find any articles that state “The right are all members of the KKK”? Conversely can you find any articles that say “the left” riot when they don’t get their way, or all people on “the left” behave in a certain manner? Plenty of comments of that nature on this site too.
      
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      November 12, 2016 11:09am
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , as usual you are a serial misinformer and fabricator ,
      
      Synopsis
      
      Senator Robert Byrd was the longest-serving senator and the longest-serving member in the history of the United States Congress. He filibustered against the 1964 Civil Rights Act and supported the Vietnam War, but later backed civil rights measures and criticized the Iraq War. He was briefly a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s, but later left the group and denounced racial intolerance.
      
      http://www.biography.com/people/robert-c-byrd-579660
      
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      November 12, 2016 11:12am
      - All_on_Red
        
        You are the liar Creepyboy.
        Byrd was a recruiter for the KKK. His continued support in the State he was from has proved he maintained connections with the KKK
        And watch your insults to me. I know a lot about you….
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:17pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Internet tough guy…
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:27pm
Tauhei Notts

I saw a good piece on another site.
A person argued that the right did not win on Wednesday. Right versus left politics is no more.
It was the creators of prosperity who prevailed over the consumers of that prosperity. And the creators go from board level all the way down to the cleaners.
The consumers of prosperity are those with their mouths firmly engorged on the taxpayer’s teat.
The creators of prosperity have gotten sick of the consumers of prosperity and let that fact be known in no uncertain terms.
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November 12, 2016 9:43am
- Ross12
  
  TN
  Agree with your point.
  Here is a good run down of the results covering the various groups and more importantly the changes from last time.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhUXSX3ZnpE
  
  BTW. I love how people are using You Tube to do this sort of thing where it be politics , sport , business etc.
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:46am
- rightoverlabour
  
  This from CNN is very interesting. It would be interesting to find out how many other Muslims voted fror Trump.
  
  http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/muslim-silent-voter/index.html
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:09am
Biscuit

Just a reminder, good people, on this dull, wet day (at least here in Wellington), that it can only be matter of DAYS now before our lives are all brightened by the first salvos for the 2020 US Presidential Election!

Who WILL those 11 folk in Poopsquawky, Kansas vote for, eh?

Can’t wait…
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November 12, 2016 9:58am
- Fletch
  
  People reckon Chelsea Clinton is being groomed to run for Congress…..
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:21am
  - Paulus
    
    She has the intelligence and more important the Money from the corrupt Clinton Foundation. She is married into one of the leading US financial families of which Soros is one of its leaders.
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:25pm
    - Sideoiler
      
      The Clinton name is finished in US politics, Chelsea has the Clinton stink of scandal all over her.
      
      Michelle will no more likely be elected than any other ex presidents wife.
      Obama’s presidency is not going to be well thought of.
      Trump has already proved that you can get elected on less money.
      
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      November 12, 2016 5:33pm
Morrissey

Obama’s cowardly, pathetic attempts to curry favour with the extreme right only earned him contempt from all sides. Look at the following two photographs. The first shows him with Raoul Castro….

http://static.dnaindia.com/sites/default/files/styles/half/public/2016/03/22/440677-castro-with-obama-pti.jpg?itok=hD0rfW1T

The second shows him shaking hands with Donald Trump….

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161110130731-08-obama-trump-1110-large-169.jpg

Why did he fear to be seen shaking hands like a man with Castro? Because he was imagining what Fox News would do with the footage. It’s a perfect example of the sort of vacillation that has made the last eight years such a wasted opportunity and a disappointment.
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November 12, 2016 10:06am
- All_on_Red
  
  Obama’s relationship with Castro cost Hillary the Cuban vote in Florida…
  
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  November 12, 2016 10:20am
  - Morrissey
    
    Obama no doubt feared the censure of extreme right wing Cubans as much as he feared the ridicule of Fox News’s squawking heads. Perhaps if he worried about what normal, decent people thought instead, he would be remembered as a great President.
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:36am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Obama feared comments from right wingers? Doubt it.
      You really talk a lot of shit.
      And Obama’s legacy will be gone after Feb. All those executive orders are going to be reversed.
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:14pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Everything he did was with one eye on the loons of Fox News and the rest of Rupert Murdoch’s thugs. He feared them, unfortunately, in the same way Tony Blair feared them.
        
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        November 12, 2016 6:00pm
- tom hunter
  
  He probably thought the blood from Raol’s murderous hands would rub off on his.
  
  Although he did shake hands with Chavez, so there’s that.
  
  And Trump has not ordered anybody killed.
  
  Yet. 🙂
  
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  November 12, 2016 10:44am
  - Morrissey
    
    Tom, you know as much about Cuba and Venezuela as you do about Chomsky’s oeuvre: virtually nothing.
    
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    November 12, 2016 1:57pm
DifferentPerspective

This sums it up for us non-US Deplorables!
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November 12, 2016 10:07am
BeeSting

Oh, say, can you see,
By the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed
At the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars,
Through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched,
Were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets’ red glare,
The bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night
That our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave
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November 12, 2016 10:11am
- mikenmild
  
  Did you forget this bit:
  
  And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
  That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
  A home and a Country should leave us no more?
  Their blood has wash’d out their foul footstep’s pollution.
  No refuge could save the hireling and slave
  From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
  And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
  O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
  
  Promising death to the former slaves who had the temerity to fight against their erstwhile masters.
  
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  November 12, 2016 10:21am
  - Morrissey
    
    Indeed, Mike. Some people have the temerity to rant about the Hamas Charter for including similar sentiments to those in the anthem, which they inevitably sing with a gusto approaching crazed bloodlust.
    
    I think this is the best version of that brutal song….
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdXqoVhdHOI
    
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    November 12, 2016 10:51am
macdee

Peru says TPP can be replaced with new trade deal, sans U.S. reut.rs/2epegT5
Geo politics changing, TPPA excluding US but including China and maybe Russia – are we in or out
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November 12, 2016 10:15am
dime

The fallout from the election has just been awesome!

Cry harder lefties.

I think my favorite part is the outrage at white people voting in a block. That’s racist hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahshahahahs
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November 12, 2016 10:17am
Morrissey

Even though the highly controversial, secretive, anti-democratic TPP is pretty much dead in the water, it still has one brave (or foolish) supporter: New Zealand’s Minister of Trade Todd McClay. Labour’s David Clark tweeted cruelly the other day that the poor fellow is the “Minister for Lost Causes.”

Mentioning Todd McClay brings back some fond memories for this writer, i.e. moi. Four years ago, on Christmas Eve 2012 in fact, I made my début on Cameron Slater’s notorious Whaleoil Beef Hooked blog. I decided to register and contribute my two cents worth on a thread entitled “WHALEOIL AWARDS – BEST ELECTORATE MP”. On my very first post I attracted the attention of the great man himself….

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/12/whaleoil-awards-best-electorate-mp-2/
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November 12, 2016 10:25am
- VicParking
  
  The USA is just one country when it comes to TPPA.
  When the others say they will replace the USA with China it will come running.
  Evan a TPPA without the USA and its “tarrifs” will be better than scapping it
  
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  November 12, 2016 3:30pm
  - Morrissey
    
    Careful my friend: too much Kool-Aid is not very good for one’s mental health.
    
    https://media.bizarrepedia.com/images/jonestown-suicide-massacre.jpg
    
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    November 12, 2016 5:51pm
Manolo

The Mafia Don passes the mantle:
http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/chelsea-clinton-being-groomed-to-run-for-congress/

While some pundits are declaring the Clinton political dynasty dead, sources tell us that it is far from over. Chelsea Clinton is being groomed for the New York seat held by Rep. Nita Lowey.

Chelsea could run for the seat in NYC’s 17th Congressional District once Lowey, a respected, 79-year-old career politician with nearly 30 years in office, decides to retire, we have exclusively learned.
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November 12, 2016 10:38am
- Reid
  
  Yes. Looks like they had JFK Jnr killed for nothing now. The Queen is dead, Long live the Queen. I suppose now that Huma’s dead to Hills, Chelsea can come back into the fold, and get all of dear Hillary’s loving attention. Lucky her.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:00am
  - Reid
    
    He really was murdered you know. JFK Jnr was super cautious and apart from anything else they had to get rid of him because he would have been the Senator for NY and he could have become President one day and when he did, he’d find out what really happened to his Dad, and there’d be hell to pay.
    
    So he wasn’t yet licensed for night-flight and normal practice was to take a flight instructor along. Which he did, but the flight instructor was a suicide agent, who shut off the fuel cock and then dived the plane when the engines quit. They found the fuel cock in the closed position and that can’t happen by accident. Divers removed the flight instructor before the search team arrived.
    
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    November 12, 2016 12:36pm
    - Reid
      
      It’s spooky to think isn’t it that this year could easily have been a race between Trump and JFK Jnr.
      
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      November 12, 2016 1:06pm
    - mikenmild
      
      We’ll have to file that one with the 9/11 inside job, UFO bases in Antarctica, worldwide Jewish conspiracy, and fake moon landing theories…
      Time to up the meds.
      
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      November 12, 2016 1:13pm
    - Gabby
      
      Why that’s a plan that’s Satanic in its deviousness … Reid. Or should I say, Satan?
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:00pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , the death of JFK jnr is subject to a number of conspiracy theories including of course Donald Trump’s principal advisor and confident , Roger Stone . Unlike you he thinks Hilary Clinton arranged to have him murdered to prevent him from starting another political dynasty,
      
      Thoughts ?
      
      BTW the National Transport Safety Board gave more prosaic reasons for the plane crash ,
      
      “… after a year-long investigation that Kennedy “failure to maintain control of the airplane during a descent over water at night, which was a result of spatial disorientation. Factors in the accident were haze and the dark night.”
      
      http://heavy.com/entertainment/2016/08/john-f-kennedy-jr-death-top-conspiracy-theories-was-murdered-i-am-jfk-carolyn-bessette-is-still-alive-dead/
      
      You might wish to source you conspiracy claims ?
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:26pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        I saw your comment calling me a serial liar you little fuck.
        I.know.who.you.are.
        Watch your mouth.
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:28pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Fully functioning member of the 101st Chairborne Division…
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:30pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Says the loser Mikey who spends all his life on KB.
        Got no friends and I’d wager no partner in your life eh.
        How could you, the time you spend on here. You are truly KBs bigliest joke.
        Snark snark snark- jerk.
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:35pm
macdee

read my post above Morrissey, do you think China is going to miss the opportunity to lock up Pacific nations in a trade agreement, pressure will be on the US to maintain its status in the region, TPPA in its current form may be a goner but watch out for the ‘son of TPPA’, will you and you’re mate Clark apologise to McClay then
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November 12, 2016 10:43am
Keeping Stock

Magnificent win today for Munster over the Maori All Blacks, with the spirit of Anthony Foley well and truly present.

Before they did the haka, the Maori players laid out a Maori AB jersey with AF on the back on the halfway line, which was later presented to Floey’s sons. Say what you like about the haka, the Maori team and whoever, but that was an act of class, respect and mana.
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November 12, 2016 10:50am
- Manolo
  
  Sensational rugby played by Munster, deserving winner.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:02am
- big bruv
  
  Pure, sickening tokenism.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:27am
- Morrissey
  
  The Maori team was cursed by bad karma following cowardly coach Colin Cooper’s banning front rower Kane Hames from wearing a wristband supporting the Standing Rock water protectors.
  
  http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11744446
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:09pm
Stars And Stripes

Homeless deterring tenants, say Queen St landlords and letting agents
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11746165.

I would be very interested to see if this problem has got worst since the introduction of” safety barriers” on Grafton bridge as before these were put up a lot of this muck used to mysteriously slip and fall on Friday and Saturday nights keeping their numbers down.
More unintended consequences I suspect.
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November 12, 2016 10:53am
- Morrissey
  
  this muck used to mysteriously slip and fall on Friday and Saturday nights keeping their numbers down.
  
  Have you thought of following their example? It would certainly improve the quality of this messageboard immensely.
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:12pm
- Flash
  
  All they need to do is close off the ’front porches’ so that there is a smooth facade along the footpath. The homeless would surely move off to where they could get a bit of shelter.
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:29pm
Maggy Wassilieff

A man from U.N.C.L.E. Dr Robert Vaughn dies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Vaughn
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November 12, 2016 10:57am
publicwatchdog

A new slogan for Auckland?

How about ‘Auckland – $upercity for the 1%’?

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11746553

Why we need to get rid of ALL Auckland ‘Council Controlled Organisations’
(CCOs), and bring their functions back under direct Auckland Council control under the genuine ‘public service’ (not corporate welfare) model.

We the public never voted for CCOs or those who run them.

CCOs have been the mechanism for the effective corporate takeover of the Auckland region – which is being run ‘like a business – by business – for business’.

‘Auckland – $upercity for the 1%’

There you go!

Short, sharp and deadly truthful.

(Also – FREE!)

First came up with slogan / banner during the ‘Occupy Auckland’ occupation at Aotea Square.

Penny Bright
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November 12, 2016 11:00am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Go away
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:02am
- holysheet
  
  You forgot to sign out with your signature
  “Failed another election yet again”
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:04am
  - stigie
    
    Are you still getting your quota of NZs finest Penny of one litre per minute or are you bludging off the neighbours..?
    
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    November 12, 2016 1:29pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  How about “Auckland, where it doesn’t matter if you pay your rates or not; you can still bludge off everyone else”…
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:43am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Go and join your hero Chloe Swarbrick at the Green Party. You’d fit in well with that loony mob.
  
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  November 12, 2016 3:26pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Even the Green Party has standards Cap’n.
    
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    November 12, 2016 4:39pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray And Walk Away.
  Rubbish stays.
  I walk away
  
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  November 12, 2016 6:51pm
pseudonymous

You are aware that he was re-elected in 1952 after the nation saw the error of their ways!!
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November 12, 2016 11:03am
Manolo

The mole sheds a tear or two:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3928032/Huma-breaks-weeps-openly-returns-campaign-headquarters-aides-ran-doomed-bid-elect-Hillary-Clinton.html
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November 12, 2016 11:04am
- holysheet
  
  Nothing gives me greater cheer that to see these lefties in meltdown at their loss. Long may it continue.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:06am
  - starboard
    
    Not long to go, we can all watch it again here in NZ next year.
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:37pm
- Reid
  
  It is unclear what Abedin, 40, will do now that her boss’s political career is over; she has never worked for anyone else.
  
  How about: go to prison for the next thirty years for being a Mossad spy.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRu3U-nwyhw
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:22am
  - holysheet
    
    she has never worked for anyone else.
    
    Not another bloody leftie trougher who had the gall to tell others how to do it?
    
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    November 12, 2016 11:27am
  - stephieboy
    
    Reid , I see the Jews / Mossad have still their fingers in the pie .
    
    What will they be plotting next ? Giuliana a hero of 9/11 as Attorney General ?
    
    Tearing up the Iran Nuclear deal ( which Russia signed ) ?
    
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    November 12, 2016 11:31am
  - mikenmild
    
    First we have to make up our minds about whether she is working for the Israel, the Muslim Brotherhood, or the Flat Earth Society.
    
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    November 12, 2016 11:48am
    - Reid
      
      You may of course draw no connection from the facts that Huma and Lewinsky were both interns at the same time, that both wound up in intimate relationships with their respective targets, that Lewinsky has been established as a Mossad honeypot operation, but I couldn’t possibly comment.
      
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      November 12, 2016 12:22pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Reid , established by whom exactly ?
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:28pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You creepy little perving POS. No one is interested in your stupid comments.
        KBs Dumbest Commentator
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:31pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Meltdown alert…
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:33pm
rightoverlabour

What a Twat! Michael Wood assaults his opponent’s husband. That should go down well with the voters. Forgot, the Left need violence to make political points. http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/11/unacceptable-behaviour-labour-candidate/#more-281098
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November 12, 2016 11:24am
- stephieboy
  
  I think is has a certain Aaron Gilmour flavour to it ,
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10882006
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:37am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Come to think of it Stephieboy, Michael Wood does look a bit like Gilmour, without the curly locks, of course. I wonder if Gilmour wanted to ban penis lollies too…
    
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    November 12, 2016 11:48am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I made this comment at WO’s blog, but can’t be bothered re-typing it so it’s a copy and paste job 😉
  
  I’m normally vehemently against the families of politicians being brought into the debate. But Mr Wood’s wife has chosen to have a public, political life and that means a different standard applies.
  
  She has already tried to bar Dr Parmar from attending citizenship ceremonies, which could easily be construed as running interference for her husband. To that degree then, she is going to attract attention and comment.
  
  As for Wood, pushing and shoving someone and allegedly calling them a “motherf****r” is not the kind of behaviour one would expect from a person standing for election to Parliament. He has done his campaign prospects no good whatsoever.
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:46am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Not quite KS; the well known racist from the far north firmly established mfkers as a noun to be used by parliamentarians therfore being suitable for prospective troughers as well
    
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    November 12, 2016 1:40pm
  - Gabby
    
    You familiar with this Graham Collins fellow? Honourable fellow, purblind deafaid or lying sack of shit?
    
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    November 12, 2016 6:10pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Gabby, there is no doubt that Graham Collins is a National Party operative, just like Cameron “Blubber” Slater, Simon Lusk, Carrick Graham and their miserable servant Jordan Williams. That makes him a dishonorable lout, and as you put it so perfectly, a lying sack of shit.
      
      That transparently false Whaleoil “report” claims the meeting was “a raucous affair with the public loudly interjecting during most answers.” That should, of course, read: “”a raucous affair with a small number of National Party louts loudly interjecting during most answers.”
      
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      November 12, 2016 8:00pm
- Gabby
  
  What a twat! Ravinder Parmar’s fat gob writes a cheque he’s too gutless to cash, complains he was assaulted like a precious little flower. He should walk a mile in Maxi Pad’s designer trainers.
  
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  November 12, 2016 3:19pm
- doggone7
  
  Michael Wood did not assault anyone.
  Anyone claiming he did is clearly the twat.
  
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  November 12, 2016 5:51pm
big bruv

Its a damn good week for NZ rugby. The NZ team take a battering and the Aparthied team get their arses kicked. Things are looking up.
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November 12, 2016 11:25am
- mikenmild
  
  Was it another explosive orgasm for you this morning?
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:47am
- sooty
  
  Obviously their haka wasn ot good enough!
  
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  November 12, 2016 12:25pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Said the stephieboy of rugby….
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:25pm
Manolo

Stocks enjoying the ride:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/11/us-markets.html

The Dow Jones industrial average closed about 37 points higher. For the week, the Dow rose around 5.4%, marking its best weekly performance since December 2011.
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November 12, 2016 11:31am
DifferentPerspective

Clinton Crime Family

Major Clinton funder George “GFC” Soros organising the “spontaneous” protests against Trump.

This is the real power behind the Clinton Crime Family – he’s throwing his toys out of the cot about losing his ‘bought and paid’ for election.

Diddums!
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November 12, 2016 11:32am
- stephieboy
  
  Well we can safely say that George Soros ‘s machinations were rather limited in determining the 8/11 poll as many alt right nutters claimed !
  
  http://yournewswire.com/george-soros-owns-voting-machines/
  
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  November 12, 2016 11:39am
  - Manolo
    
    Your hero Soros’ problem is that he hired too many thugs and criminals from moveon.org. Brawn without brains.
    
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    November 12, 2016 11:42am
  - Reid
    
    No we can’t. Only a complete moron would hallucinate that just because a player lost that therefore that player wasn’t playing. Only particularly stupid dunderheaded fools could possibly conclude anything like that. They’d have to be thicker than a whale omelette if they did that, wouldn’t they stephie.
    
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    November 12, 2016 12:04pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , the facts remain that the Hungarian Jew had an insignificant influence on the election outcome . Yet another silly conspiracy theory bites the dust !
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:32pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        The facts remain you are a creep and a disgrace who pervs at young women in cafes and then writes about it.
        I can’t believe you are not ashamed and continue to visit this blog.
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:38pm
- Paulus
  
  A relative by marriage to Chelsea Clinton.
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:30pm
Manolo

A charming and honest Paki:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/11/10/2-investigators-suspicious-man-caught-at-water-plant-released-then-vanishes/
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November 12, 2016 11:35am
Reid

Donald Trump is contemplating naming a number of recognizable players from the 2016 campaign to serve in senior White House roles, according to an internal transition document obtained exclusively by The Daily Caller.

The list was provided by a member of the transition team on the condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak to the press. Described as a “working” document, it is being used to help the president-elect envision a White House staff structure, the source said. Some people are listed more than once.

Here is the list:

Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff
Stephen K. Bannon, Reince Priebus

Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism.
Keith Kellogg, Mike Rogers

Assistant to the President and Press Secretary.
Jason Miller, Sean Spicer, Kellyanne Conway

Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff for Planning.
Corey Lewandowski, Katie Walsh

Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy.
Stephen Miller, Sam Clovis

Assistant to the President and National Security Advisor.
Michael T. Flynn, Mike Rogers, Stephen Hadley

Assistant to the President and Director of Speechwriting.
Stephen Miller, Cliff Sims

Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement.
None listed

Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations.
David Bossie, Katie Walsh

Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor.
Clare Lopez, Walid Phares, Andy Keiser

Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council.
Stephen Miller

Assistant to the President and Director, Office of Legislative Affairs.
Rick Dearborn

Assistant to the President and Director of Communications.
Jason Miller, Stephen Miller, Cliff Sims

Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor
Kellyanne Conway, Corey Lewandowski

Assistant to the President for Economic Policy and Director of the National Economic Council.
Dan Dimicco, David Malpass

White House Counsel
Don McGahn, Alan Garten

Link has background on some.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/10/exclusive-here-is-a-list-of-people-donald-trump-is-considering-for-senior-white-house-jobs/
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November 12, 2016 11:42am
DifferentPerspective

Anti-bullying Ambassador arrested for bullying

These people are animals, they don’t have self-awareness of a chip packet!

All this PC nonsense has to go in the garbage where it belongs.

(Breaking news – the woman was black, triggered and assaulting a 74 yo white-man who fell down and selfishly hurt his head – so she’s innocent then because .. you know… Black Criminals are Innocent, it wasn’t a race attack either because black women can’t be racist or sexist – it ain’t possible)
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November 12, 2016 11:52am
Reid

Ed Klein: Here’s what I know, not my opinion. About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend. She was crying inconsolably. She couldn’t stop crying. And her friend, her female friend from way, way back said it was even hard to understand what she was saying she was crying so hard. This is Hillary we’re talking about. Eventually her friend said she could make out that she was blaming James Comey, the Director of the FBI, for her loss, and, I don’t understand exactly, the president of the United States for not doing enough.

Yes. Lots of blacks stayed away. Obama could have called harder to them but he didn’t. Why? His most important thing to him was his legacy policies and he would have had a deal with Hillary to keep them in return for his support getting her elected. But at the most important time, he didn’t. Why.

And at the same time of course Comey comes in with a perfectly timed double-whammy: first it’s on, then it’s off, then it’s on.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/report-hillary-clinton-couldnt-stop-crying-blamed-comey-obama-stunning-loss-video/
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November 12, 2016 11:54am
- Gabby
  
  A ‘report’ that is probably made up. I detect the hand of Satan.
  
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  November 12, 2016 3:21pm
  - Reid
    
    Gabby has it occurred that if I really was Satan then I’d be unlikely to hang out on Kiwiblog on a lazy Saturday, would I.
    
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    November 12, 2016 4:25pm
    - Gabby
      
      Lazy? Idle hands, Reid, idle hands. You’re fooling no-one. Vade retro, chum.
      
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      November 12, 2016 6:05pm
Liberty

Ku Klux Klan plans North Carolina ‘victory’ rally for Donald Trump – after group’s former leader claimed they played ‘huge role’ in election win
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3925856/Ku-Klux-Klan-plans-North-Carolina-victory-rally-Donald-Trump.html
The sick side of America has been let out of its cage.
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November 12, 2016 11:55am
- Reid
  
  Yes. The shame is Liberty some particularly stupid lefties hallucinate Trmp created them, they don’t understand groups like that have always existed and probably always will. Isn’t that moronic.
  
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  November 12, 2016 12:01pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  No, the sick side of America just took a serious hiding by white working America.
  
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  November 12, 2016 12:45pm
  - stephieboy
    
    How many chapters do you think the KKK has in the Rust Belt and midwest Michigan etc ?
    
    What might be the personal appeal of the KKK to you ?
    
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    November 12, 2016 6:16pm
Reid

Trump also announced Friday that several other big names would join the Presidential Transition Team Executive Committee, including: his finance chairman Steven Mnuchin; venture capitalist Peter Thiel; Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus; campaign CEO Stephen K. Bannon; and children Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Ivanka Trump. Some of those figures are also seen as potential prospects for key administration posts.

This is not a learning opportunity for the children, Don.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/11/pence-reportedly-taking-over-transition-effort-from-christie.html
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November 12, 2016 11:59am
- mikenmild
  
  Well, one of the benefits of electing Trump is that he is an ‘outsider’, right? His kids similarly have no experience of public office, so putting them in the administration too could only be a good thing, right?
  
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  November 12, 2016 12:01pm
  - Reid
    
    I hope he goes after Soros, after these riots from Move-On.
    
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    November 12, 2016 12:39pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , what about those voting machines that Soros was said to have installed in 16 states to swing the election in Hillary ‘s favour ?
      
      Do inform us when Trump appoints his Ambassador to Israel, meets with Bibi Netanyahu and tears up the Iran Nuclear deal ?
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:38pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        What about all the leering you’ve admitted doing in Parks and Cafes.
        Found any new photos of Melania? How many times did you post them on KB? 5 or 6 was it.
        What a Creepyboy.
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:40pm
      - nasska
        
        When the machines are set up to flip votes they don’t do every one…. say one or two in a hundred just to give an unnoticeable edge to the Democrats.
        
        Clinton was so rotten & corrupt that even dishonest vote rigging wasn’t enough to get her over the line.
        
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        November 12, 2016 4:05pm
Ross12

Great new video from Paul Watson

https://www.youtube.com/user/PrisonPlanetLive
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November 12, 2016 12:08pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Killary groupy, anti white, man hating New York Jewess and trust fund kid, Lena Dunham, broke out in hives and blubbered incoherently in the shower when Killary got her butt handed to her by white America, LOL!

“Watching the numbers in Florida, I touched my face and realized I was crying. “Can we please go home?” I said to my boyfriend. I could tell he was having trouble breathing, and I could feel my chin breaking into hives…

…At home I got in the shower and began to cry even harder. My boyfriend, who had already wept, watched me as I mumbled incoherently, clutching myself. “It wasn’t supposed to go this way. It was supposed to be her job. She worked her whole life for the job. It’s her job.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-11/lena-dunham-wants-you-know-she-was-miserable-election-night

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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November 12, 2016 12:35pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  She also promised to leave the USA if Trump won:
  
  “Lena Dunham told Andy Cohen at the Matrix Awards that “I know a lot of people have been threatening to do this, but I really will. I know a lovely place in Vancouver.”
  
  This guy tweeted her:
  
  “Martin Shkreli
  @MartinShkreli
  I have a Gulfstream V waiting for you to leave the US. I assume you eat for the equivalent of 5. A chef will be on board. @lenadunham”
  
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  November 12, 2016 12:42pm
mikenmild

Australia 2/2 in Hobart. I’m not a huge fan of South Africa, but I’m prepared to make certain exceptions.
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November 12, 2016 12:45pm
Reid

So where should you be to view the supermoon on November 14?

You’ll want to be somewhere very dark, away from city lights. And if you want to see it at its biggest, then you should know it’s supposed to be at its peak on the morning of November 14 at precisely 8:52am EST (1352 GMT).

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/11/04/were-about-to-see-a-record-breaking-supermoon-biggest-in-nearly-70-years/
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November 12, 2016 1:13pm
- Gabby
  
  If you stare at it too long the devil gets your soul, but of course you knew that didn’t you… Reid? Or should I say, Satan?
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:21pm
- rangitoto
  
  Reid – you can see the full moon from the centre of any city. You don’t need to go to anywhere dark. Also the instant of the full Moon is 15th Nov 2:52 am NZDST
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:29pm
Reid

The Clintons and Soros launch America’s Purple Revolution

Defeated Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton is not about to «go quietly into that good night». On the morning after her surprising and unanticipated defeat at the hands of Republican Party upstart Donald Trump, Mrs. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, entered the ball room of the art-deco New Yorker hotel in midtown Manhattan and were both adorned in purple attire. The press immediately noticed the color and asked what it represented. Clinton spokespeople claimed it was to represent the coming together of Democratic «Blue America» and Republican «Red America» into a united purple blend. This statement was a complete ruse as is known by citizens of countries targeted in the past by the vile political operations of international hedge fund tycoon George Soros…

…The Clintons, who both have received millions of dollars in campaign contributions and Clinton Foundation donations from Soros, were, in fact, helping to launch Soros’s «Purple Revolution» in America. The Purple Revolution will resist all efforts by the Trump administration to push back against the globalist policies of the Clintons and soon-to-be ex-President Barack Obama. The Purple Revolution will also seek to make the Trump administration a short one through Soros-style street protests and political disruption…

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/11/clintons-and-soros-launch-america-purple-revolution.html
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November 12, 2016 1:19pm
- Reid
  
  This anti-Trump video is from Soros-funded Pussy Riot.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-bKFo30o2o
  
  The first salvo in the propaganda war.
  
  The second front arrayed against Trump is from Soros-funded political groups and media. This second line of attack is a propaganda war, utilizing hundreds of anti-Trump newspapers, web sites, and broadcasters, that will seek to undermine public confidence in the Trump administration from its outset.
  
  If you’re a student of propaganda like I am, this is going to be an interesting case study as it plays out.
  
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  November 12, 2016 1:32pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Soros funding Pussy Cat Riot ?Says whom ?
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:41pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      What would you know what Soros does or doesn’t do. Talking shit as usual.
      Still, I bet you really really like watching a topless girl band huh.
      Creepyboy
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:43pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Are you going to tell us you wouldn’t like watching a topless girl band?
        
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        November 12, 2016 2:44pm
      - Gabby
        
        You’ve spent too long at Hotel Gayboy.
        
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        November 12, 2016 6:00pm
  - Gabby
    
    It’s Devilishly clever isn’t it Reid?
    
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    November 12, 2016 6:02pm
Ross12

They are just proving Trump has been right all along.
I wonder if any of the protesters would be able to join the dots here or will they just take their “protest fee” and run ?
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November 12, 2016 1:26pm
mikenmild

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!
Now 8/4.
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November 12, 2016 1:34pm
Reid

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/09/admiral-grigorovich-state-art-frigate-joins-russia-mediterranean-task-force.html

Good list of its capabilities in the link, for those interested in such things.
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November 12, 2016 1:43pm
kowtow

That Dustin La Mont is one ballsy guy.

Great decision by the jury.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/86288263/Exonerated-for-killing-in-Auckland-gang-neighbours-from-hell-dispute
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November 12, 2016 1:44pm
kowtow

When the Great One was elected his fanboys kept telling us he was the great jurist , the most amazing, the peace maker , the hope and changer…….

…….and yet he can order the extra judicial killing of people trying to topple his other enemy Assad . Isn’t there another word for killing people based on suspicion , er, it’s not due process , no , it’s not self defence , no, it’s murder. And he’s doing it all over the place.

“Officials said the expanded al-Nusra campaign was similar to those that Obama has directed against al-Qaeda affiliates in Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan.”

“President Obama has ordered the Pentagon to find and kill the leaders of an al-Qaeda-linked group in Syria that the administration had largely ignored until now and that has been at the vanguard of the fight against the Syrian government, U.S. officials said.”

It’s OK when the “left” do it.
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November 12, 2016 1:55pm
- Gabby
  
  So it isn’t ok?
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:24pm
Keeping Stock

Australia 43 for six at lunchtime in Hobart. That’s against a Steynless South African side, which also has Philander off getting treatment for a shoulder injury.

Coming off four consecutive losses (three against India and the first test against the Saffers), things look pretty grim for the Australians at the moment.
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November 12, 2016 2:34pm
backster

If it’s okay in Europe guess it’s okay here “http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/86366801/Man-sentenced-for-groping-three-boys-at-mosques
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November 12, 2016 2:36pm
mikenmild

Aussies 43/6 at lunch.
Will they be all out before All_on_Red completely melts down?
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November 12, 2016 2:42pm
- All_on_Red
  
  HahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahaha
  Nah, just having fun playing Creepyboy at his own game.
  gosh Mikey, you’re almost at 26,000 comments .
  What you going to do? Celebration Frozen Macaroni Cheese for one?
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:46pm
  - mikenmild
    
    It’s just another number. Maybe make myself a cup of herbal tea.
    Did you know DPF sends you a special t-shirt when you hit 5,000 comments? Not as cool as the ones TradeMe send out though.
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:49pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      A cup of tea and then onwards to 27,000! Careful now Mikey, all that excitement could be a bit much for you.
      But seriously, how can you do this ALL the time like you do?
      
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      November 12, 2016 2:56pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed , in future, try and pay more attention to facts instead of posting brazen falsehoods .
        
        Worth repeating ,
        
        “For The Byrds”
        
        A photograph purportedly showing former Senator Robert Byrd in Klan robes has been digitally manipulated.
        
        A photograph shows former Senator Robert Byrd wearing Ku Klux Klan robes.
        
        FALSE
        
        ORIGIN:A photograph purportedly showing former Senator Robert Byrd wearing Ku Klux Klan robes has been circulating online for several years, but the image is demonstrably fake.
        
        While Byrd was a member of the infamous hate group in his younger years, he left the organization in the 1940s:
        
        “I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.”
        
        Byrd became a high profile politician and was the longest serving Senator at the time of his death in 2010.
        
        This image first appeared online when it was posted to the web site Strange Cosmos in June 2004. While the web site did not specifically state that the image had been doctored, Strange Cosmos is a joke web site that prides itself on its politically incorrect content:…”
        
        http://www.snopes.com/robert-byrd-kkk-photo/
        
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        November 12, 2016 5:33pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Snopes? Lol
        You are a liar. Byrd has admitted many many times he was part of the KKK
        You just don’t like the truth that Hillary has no morals and will suck up to anyone.
        It just shows what an idiot you are if you believe Byrd, who represented the State for years did so without the approval of the KKK .
        
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        November 12, 2016 7:41pm
Viking2

Donald Trump has organised his first staff-shakeup before he even takes office – and put his children firmly in charge.

He ousted New Jersey governor Chris Christie as head of his presidential transition and appointing running mate Mike Pence to chair the effort, with all his adult children and his son-in-law also on board.

Ivanka, Donald Jr and Eric Trump, and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law are all on the team.

So too is Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel, the PayPal co-founder who brought down gossip website Gawker by funding Hulk Hogan’s lawsuit.

“Together this outstanding group of advisors, led by Vice President-elect Mike Pence, will build on the initial work done under the leadership of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to help prepare a transformative government ready to lead from day one,” Trump said in a statement announcing the change.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11746892
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November 12, 2016 2:51pm
- mikenmild
  
  How come Tiffany Trump and Barron Trump missed out?
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:54pm
- stephieboy
  
  Viking 2 , in a conciliatory gesture President Elect Trump is seriously considering retaining portions of the Affordable Care Act ,
  
  “Trump likes main Obamacare provisions ‘very much’
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
  
  Many Trump followers here must be utterly gutted !
  
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  November 12, 2016 5:36pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘concilitory gesture’?
    How would you know what Trump is doing
    You are so full of shit.
    As a dedicated Hillary suckhole you must be devastated at her loss. Don’t you feel stupid?
    You should do
    
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    November 12, 2016 7:36pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Give you hang up a rest , All on Wed old cock !
      
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      November 12, 2016 7:48pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Oh there you are loser.
      Been out creeping round parks and cafes have you?
      You are a lying piece of trash. Two can play at the game of flying round the blog dropping shit.
      You are the worst liar here and I will remind you every day.
      
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      November 12, 2016 7:52pm
stigie

That’s a fair point that All_on_Red makes Milky, how do you have the stamina to stay at the keyboard almost 24/7. Do you have a maid that brings you food and gives you a sponge bath when needed ole chap..? Just curious !~
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November 12, 2016 3:10pm
- mikenmild
  
  Multi-tasking.
  
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  November 12, 2016 3:58pm
mikenmild

Aussies all out for 85.
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November 12, 2016 4:04pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  My heart bleeds for ’em. Really, truly…
  
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  November 12, 2016 4:44pm
  - mikenmild
    
    And SA get the first inning leave with (only) four wickets down. Hah.
    
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    November 12, 2016 6:32pm
Steve (North Shore)

@ the stephieboy co-op.
Did you get an email from Donald Trump saying that you were wrong and full of shit?
No?
Must have been deleted sonny
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November 12, 2016 6:56pm
Longknives

Jesus the NZ Media and NZ Rugby are on a Charm offensive after being deservedly slammed for their sickening and fucking vile ‘Throat Slitting’ Haka prior to the Ireland Test Match..(In which the Irish players were quietly paying respect to their fallen comrade)
You can smell the damage control thousands of miles away..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/86395467/maori-gesture-encapsulates-spirited-week-between-new-zealand-and-ireland

Oh and apparently Aaron Smith was just ‘chatting’ to the bimbo in the Airport toilets….

Nobody is fooled you Dickheads- What ‘Role Models’ these Arrogant Morons are!
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November 12, 2016 7:07pm
- mikenmild
  
  Did an All Black pinch your girlfriend?
  
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  November 12, 2016 7:11pm
  - Longknives
    
    An All Black must have stolen Craig Dowd’s girlfriend as well Mikenmild!
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3918810/New-Zealand-rugby-great-Craig-Dowd-says-Blacks-haka-loss-Ireland-disrespectful.html
    
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    November 12, 2016 7:20pm
  - nasska
    
    It’s not whether Longknives lost his girlfriend or suffered rejection as a sexual partner of an All Black Mike.
    
    Rather it’s the cringe inducing haka being performed at every bloody venue NZ sports teams blight.
    
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    November 12, 2016 7:32pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Oh, I don’t think that’s his only issue…
      
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      November 12, 2016 7:33pm
    - Morrissey
      
      So the NZ Maori team should not be performing a haka before a match in Ireland?
      
      Why not, exactly?
      
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      November 12, 2016 7:39pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Coz racism, blah blah, special people, blah blah, tribalism, blah blah…
        
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        November 12, 2016 7:44pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Still here Mikey?
        sheesh, get a life
        Go out and do somethings instead of being welded to a device. It’s sad man.
        
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        November 12, 2016 7:49pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”Why not, exactly?”…..
        
        Because the Stone Age crap, complete with puerile gestures worthy of a kindergarten revue, makes my skin crawl!
        
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        November 12, 2016 7:49pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Nice to see you have contained your rage AoR. Is stephie a ‘trigger’ for you? Need a safe space?
        
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        November 12, 2016 7:51pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed,
        
        and what about you ? Look left !
        
        https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50d144f6e4b05aff8e5b9c8c/t/56dfae21c2ea51ebc9c9819f/1457499686203/
        
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        November 12, 2016 7:52pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        What about Stephie?
        Going to post any more nude pictures of women?
        Turn you on does it? Creep.
        
        Mikey- I’m not going to take shit from rubbish like Stephie. He’s the worst liar here.
        And seriously, don’t you have a life?
        
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        November 12, 2016 7:56pm
      - mikenmild
        
        What about your life? Obsessed by stephie? That’s just sad.
        Also, you should try to comply with DPF’s rules. Though he’s not very strict, abuse does cope a strike from time to time.
        
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        November 12, 2016 7:58pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        My life is great. I’m rich and I have a great family
        As for abuse, I don’t see why I should be subject to blatant lying by that POS Stephie.
        The guy is a complete creep with his stories of leering at nubile breasts on young women in cafes.
        The hypocrisy as he pretends to be a liberal is astounding. He is a disgrace.
        As is yours as you are silent in your condemnation of him. Oh , and you can’t talk about abuse. You got a smack on the hand for calling someone a moron the other day.
        
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        November 12, 2016 8:02pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Of course your life is wonderful. Who said anything else?
        No, I haven’t had a strike recently. Still on two, same as you.
        I made an effort to rein in the name calling when it was pointed out that it was against the rules. Now I tend to concentrate on targets like the Nazi scumbag EAD, the amazingly credulous Reid, and the fabulous deadrightkev with their jolly tales of the worldwide Jewish conspiracy.
        So I’ll choose my own targets and subjects, thank you.
        
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        November 12, 2016 8:09pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Calling someone a Nazi scumbag is still abuse. Pretty severe abuse.Even if you are right.
        Frankly you’ve done that a lot and probably only got away with it because no one can bothered complaining. I wouldn’t bet on DPF approving it.
        Stephie is a blight on this blog.
        He deliberately swoops in, leaves nasty shit everywhere.
        It seems the only way to get rid of it is do the same back.
        Yes, you missed a strike but he warned you below th comment- just a few days ago
        
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        November 12, 2016 8:15pm
      - Morrissey
        
        After thoughtfully ruminating for some time about the haka, and bringing all of his knowledge and education to bear on the matter, our good friend “nasska” learnedly writes: “the Stone Age crap, complete with puerile gestures worthy of a kindergarten revue, makes my skin crawl!”
        
        Something tells me that poor old “nasska” was never ever quite good enough to play football to a standard where he even had to THINK about learning the words and moves of a haka.
        
        Whatever the reason, though, he sure hates it. The Australians and the Irish and the French and the English seem to love it though.
        
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        November 12, 2016 8:31pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”The Australians and the Irish and the French and the English seem to love it though.”…..
        
        They are blessed in that it is a novelty. Their good fortune extends to missing the doubtful joy of having Maori culture shoved down their throats on a daily basis.
        
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        November 12, 2016 8:49pm
      - Morrissey
        
        …. missing the doubtful joy of having Maori culture shoved down their throats on a daily basis.
        
        Are you writing from prison, nasska? That sounds like a metaphor for something. You don’t have to consent, you know.
        
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        November 12, 2016 9:00pm
      - mikenmild
        
        It’s the compulsory viewing of Maori TV that’s done for him.
        Plus, he’s always had a yearning to rename Eketahuna as the original Mellenskov.
        
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        November 12, 2016 9:05pm
  - Gabby
    
    Girlfriend.
    Good one.
    
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    November 12, 2016 7:57pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Perhaps I should have just said ‘partner’. Sorry, I really shouldn’t make assumptions about sexuality.
      
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      November 12, 2016 7:59pm
- Morrissey
  
  Hang on a minute, mate! Did you, a shameless supporter of the white supremacist and woman-attacker Donald Trump, have the brass hide and complete lack of irony to label a football team’s pre-match dance “sickening and vile”?
  
  In a way, that’s very funny, I guess. But disturbing, too—like all the best comedy!
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:10pm
Morrissey

The Mt Roskill National Party candidate needs to curb her thuggish husband. Or does she condone his antics?

Click on the link at the bottom for a factual account of the incident, as opposed to the spin of those who know they are doomed….

Imagine insulting a candidate’s wife and then complaining when the candidate responds in no uncertain words. And running a line that there was an assault when the video clearly shows there was not.

I have known Michael Wood for many years and a more gentle ethical person you could not hope to meet. To rile him up takes a great deal. To then try and use this for political advantage is morally bankrupt.

https://thestandard.org.nz/fear-and-loathing-in-mt-roskill/
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November 12, 2016 7:37pm
- stigie
  
  Jesus, why would believe anything coming from the Stranded. Liarbore are trying to make political capital over bloody lies. Fucking pathetic !~
  
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  November 12, 2016 7:43pm
  - Morrissey
    
    The video, showing clearly that the National Party’s beleaguered operatives lied about the incident, comes not from the Standard but from Stuff.co.nz.
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/86393170/Footage-shows-altercation-between-Labour-candidate-and-National-rivals-husband
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:03pm
Gabby

Graham Collins. Stinky? Dopey?
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November 12, 2016 7:59pm
- Morrissey
  
  Both. And desperate.
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:04pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Is Morris dancing the same as what rival politicians in Mt. Roskill get up to?
    
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    November 12, 2016 8:29pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Horizontal morris dancing, Captain? I believe a certain “member” (geddit?) for Epsom (1999-2011) was into that in a big way. As was a certain President of the National Party—back in the fun days (1989-94) before Michele Boag cleaned it all up.
      
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      November 12, 2016 8:40pm
Monique Watson

How do you have time to get one hand off the keyboard to whack off mikey? Seriously. Too much time wasted on pointless commenting can lead to severe frustration.
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November 12, 2016 8:45pm
- mikenmild
  
  Your concern has been noted, Monique.
  I’m sorry that you are frustrated.
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:47pm
Monique Watson

Anyone care to summarize the salient points of today’s GD? I stopped after the first five comments as it reminded me of the fact I had four children after the age of thirty.
Anyone mentioned how Soros had a lawsuit filed against him on November 7th by father of the slain Dallas cop?
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November 12, 2016 8:48pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  A summary of today’s GD
  same old, same old,
  blah, blah, blah
  rugby
  blah, blah,
  cricket,
  blah,
  wah, wah.
  
  your mention of having 4 kids after 30 – the
  only thing of interest.
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:22pm
starboard

mm’s a dullard. No life, never gets out, gets aroused by asking question after question on KB.
Panty wearing dullard.. as dull as a 5 watt bulb.
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November 12, 2016 8:52pm
- mikenmild
  
  Back from the imaginary holiday, starboard? And where’s your alter ego, dirty harry?.
  
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  November 12, 2016 8:57pm
nasska

Orange is the new Black.
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November 12, 2016 9:13pm
starboard

oil..check

rubber bum..check

wet wipes..check

“Night Mum ”

“Night mm “
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November 12, 2016 9:21pm
- mikenmild
  
  Um, no. Mum just texted me from your bedsit. She’d like you to come to bed instead of surfing the web for your gay porn.
  
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  November 12, 2016 9:30pm
  - nasska
    
    Ouch! 🙂
    
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    November 12, 2016 9:35pm
  - starboard
    
    All good..and Im gona act it out on her..
    
    bawhahahaha!
    
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    November 12, 2016 9:40pm
    - sam green
      
      So where did you learn all that bumsex starboard. They say to be a good giver you have to be a taker first.
      
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      November 13, 2016 12:23am
Sir Leslie Bottocks

World chess champs begins with tribute to The Donald!

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/11/world-chess-championship-echoes-trumps-white-house-checkmate.html
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November 12, 2016 9:48pm
- Kimbo
  
  Excellent post, SLB, as well as the tweet “Magnus Carlsen a big favorite. The only way Karjakin has a chance is if he can take Michigan & Pennsylvania”.
  
  Just wonder what Bobby Fischer would have made of it. 😉
  
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  November 12, 2016 10:36pm
BeeSting

YO Stephie bro

Listent to the Doctor of Common Sense

Not every African American liked that patronising smug piece of crap
called Barrack Hussein Osama MR BS himself

LISTEN TO WHAT THEY REALLY THINK OF THIS OVER PAID
LOSER AND THAT CORRUPT WITCH MARRIED TO A RAPIST

Racist Barack and Michelle Obama Refuses To Take Traditional Pics With Donald & Melania Trump

https://youtu.be/-ZhfuxQ9V4Y

GET YOUR DOCTORS DAILLY DOSE

and he will admit he gets to say it like it IS
like no white person dares to anymore
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November 12, 2016 11:40pm
BeeSting

how basically “uneducated white people” shouldn’t be allowed to vote

>
Don’t you just love the contradictions of people who just hate white people (rich or poor)

if you are successful and white you got that through “white privilege”
and if not super rich you is one of them god damned “hill billy red necks”

The Truth is you can put any bunch of White Europeans
(educated or non educated) in any Situation
in any place on this planet – give them nothing at all

Wait a bit come back they will get to work and turn nothing into something awesome

and that is the truth some people can’t handle
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November 12, 2016 11:57pm
- sam green
  
  Ok beestring- you and 9 of your mates – Nullabor plains. I’ll pay for your travel – pick you up in six months. P.S. You can take hats and sunscreen.
  
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  November 13, 2016 12:19am
BeeSting

Nullabor plains

Poms Nuked it – it is unsafe

10-11 is the section of human organisation not 9
it is called a brick in the army

I would prefer to go with some abo woman

You pay my salary I will gladly do it

hard to find 10 aussies who are not complete d heads nowadays
most of the good ones died in the wars and the imports to aus are tragic
>

Grass hopper one of my precious family heirlooms is a Carved
Emu egg given by the Aboriginals to my gr8 grr8 gr8 grand mammy

you are probably raised on the myth that european racists hated the abos
in many cased they got along fine as many settlers did with nz maori
without government intervention

G V T stuffed that one up

many of the atrocities against abos were done by other abos

Why not Arnhem Land
One of my friends has done the aboriginal womans walk
you are allowed a knife a bed roll and a drink bottle that is it

you are taught to look after not just yourself but your children

Later when you are older you do the “old woman walk”

Did you know the Aboriginals wanted to gift the jews large amounts
of land before ww2 to prevent what was going to happen

They led one of the first official protests to the German Consulate in 1938

In these situations you do what my people did in NZ
you learn the natives lingo you go talk to them and learn
all their tricks and bring some of your own

easy mate

Seeing as you are on a Kiwi Blog Bro and you know so Much about the
Nullabor

The British used this area to do nuclear tests at Maralinga in the 1950s forcing many of the Wangai to leave.

Here is something for you to ponder
why does a 25 Kiloton British Nuclear Test in the 1950’s
have a NZ Maori Name?

3/Taranaki 9 October 1957 06:45:?? aCST (9.5 hrs)
Maralinga Range, SAU: Taranaki 29.8948°S 131.5916°E 180 m (590 ft) + 300 m (980 ft) balloon,
weapons development 26.6 kt [21][22][23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga

Why was strontium 90 found in cows milk in northland in the 50’s
and why and when did the RNZAF fly over NZ with geiger counters?

PK Doing the Song Marlinga
https://youtu.be/tkFgzF6-gxs

https://youtu.be/tkFgzF6-gxs

My Copy of Gossip is Signed

Archie Roach and Ruby Hunter – Kutjeri Lady
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5WziOQOvP8

I saw these 2 perform their last concert together on the Saint Kilda Water front she passed over (a day or 2 after) – they were great – God Bless her

You travel Aus traditionally by song lines the song tells you how to get from A-B

One of my Favorite Archie Roach Songs
https://youtu.be/EATZpASejvQ

Have you been to the Grampians

http://www.visitgrampians.com.au/
Budja Budja

Take a Chill pill this place is good for your soul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MVX1can7oo

Emus Deer and Roos coming through my campsite
nice fire at night time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY532F8JWMs
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November 13, 2016 2:04am
- sam green
  
  Lay off the sherry dude.
  
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  November 13, 2016 8:37am
Manolo

stephieboy is a bit shaken¡ but keeps faith in the paedophile prophet:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/brexit-trump-europe-reels-crisis-041345232.html
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November 13, 2016 6:33am
Manolo

Desperate times demand desperate measures:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/12/voters-targeted-electoral-college-members-to-switch-their-trump-ballots-elect-clinton.html

Their major focus is trying to get members of the U.S. Electoral College to change their vote, arguing that Clinton should be the next president because 60.47 Americans voted for her, compared to 60 million for Trump.
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November 13, 2016 6:37am
BeeSting

Sammy Boy

Carved Emu eggs are gifts of Friendship
amasing how similar that practice is to the European practice of Easter Eggs

My gr* grand mothers children played with
aboriginal children in bark canoes

She baked them bread and shared it with them
they carved and gifted her emu eggs as their way of saying thank you

Getting along ok with aboriginals was more common than many admit

The Names of the test at Marlinga on the
imho
have geographic hints because that is how far
they expected the fall out to travel

as far as NZ and that is why the RNZAF were flying with geiger counters (imho)

Check the names of the other tests they are geographic? why?

We and Aus have had our Chernobyl except
many do not know it happened?

My friend who did the Aboriginal Womans walk
(knife water bottle and bed roll) said she wished she could have stayed out there – would do it again in an instant

She was taught how to find water food and all the
necessities when she is older she gets to do the old womans walk

They get their News from Many Sources they
knew before WW2 that is was not going to end well persecuting jews

Aboriginal Culture varies depending on what part of Aus you are in Budja Budja Halls gaps
is a great place to visit

I was blessed to hear the Aboriginal Singer
Ruby Hunter and her partner Archie Roach
last concert together

Never Forget it they were great
https://youtu.be/hwSqxrf24gU

From Little things Big things grow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_ndC07C2qw

I love aboriginal art and the Didge Mate
Lyrics

This is a rainy land
This is a rainy land
No thunder in our sky
No trees stretching high
But this is a rainy land

My name is Yami Lester
I hear, I talk, I touch but I am blind
My story comes from darkness
Listen to my story now unwind
This is a rainy land

First we heard two big bangs
We thought it was the Great Snake digging holes
Then we saw the big cloud
Then the big, black mist began to roll
This is a rainy land

A strangeness on our skin
A soreness in our eyes like weeping fire
A pox upon our skin
A boulder on our backs all our lives

This is a rainy land
This is a rainy land
No thunder in our sky
No trees stretching high
But this is a rainy land

My name is Edie Millipuddie
They captured me and roughly washed me down
Then my child stopped kicking
Then they took away my oId man to town
They said ‘Do you speak English?’
He said ‘1 know that Jesus loves me I know
Because the bible tells me so’

This is a rainy land
This is a rainy land
No thunder in our sky
No trees stretching high
But this is a rainy land

I LOVE THE WEST ISLAND – AUSTRALIA

Love Aboriginal art it is abstract like music
up beat and cheerful

Paul Kelly – The Ballad of Queenie and Rover
Love song about 2 aboriginal artists

https://youtu.be/gV0xGokR0OY

Big Island West Island been going walk about there long time happy to do the Nullabar plain sometime

many tricks uneducated white fella learn from the
abo fella

Did you know bee keepers developed the Geiger Counter

and a Swedish Bee keeping Scientist

http://www.sicamm.org/JoStark.html

It was Josef’s bees passing Geiger counters at their hive entrances that alerted the world to the Chernobyl nuclear accident.

Us European People are just like the European Bees
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