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Inandout

The US markets have recovered, the protesting snowflakes have almost melted from the streets, Obama has met his successor without fist fighting. All is well on this morn, even Paddy Gower has accepted Trump.
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November 11, 2016 8:03am
- redeye
  
  http://babylonbee.com/news/police-calm-millennial-protesters-handing-participation-trophies/
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:10am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Everyone is a winner – how pathetic. Throw the little shits in jail and teach them some respect. Kidults
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:19am
    - sam green
      
      And you believed that article? Oh dear.
      
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      November 11, 2016 2:03pm
      - itstricky
        
        + 26 others.
        
        More news from ‘your trusted Christian News satire source’ :
        
        http://babylonbee.com/news/starbucks-unveils-new-satanic-holiday-cups/
        
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        November 11, 2016 5:31pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Some people need to have ‘Warning: Satire’ labels attached to things that might disturb them…
        
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        November 11, 2016 5:35pm
- billmurray
  
  Amen.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:30am
- RRM
  
  They are working through the 7 stages of grief quickly!
  
  Yesterday was denial and bargaining. Today they appear to have skipped guilt (surprise!) straight to anger…
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:45am
- calendar girl
  
  However, there’s a movement afoot to draft Michelle Obama as Democrat candidate for the 2020 Presidential Election.
  
  Great response to the people’s ‘shock’ rejection of the Establishment order.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:56am
- thedavincimode
  
  Hopefully Gower has communicated his acceptance directly to Trump; one less thing for the President-elect to deal with.
  
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  November 11, 2016 11:19am
jonar

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According to Trump the man who founded ISIS is a “very good man” and he looks forward to dealing with him in the future.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11746083
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November 11, 2016 8:04am
- Gabby
  
  Nasty man. What a nasty man.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:46am
  - Rich Prick
    
    I will pause for a moment to thank you for your considered, thoughtful and well articulated comment.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:24am
- itstricky
  
  LOL. Yep, Trump presidency, good for the craic.
  
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  November 11, 2016 11:55am
- jonar
  
  Trump pardons criminal stating that she “has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country.”
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/us/politics/trump-speech-transcript.html?_r=0
  
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  November 11, 2016 12:22pm
Manolo

Farage savages the Messiah:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/10/nigel-farage-describes-barack-obama-as-a-loathsome-creature/
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November 11, 2016 8:04am
Keeping Stock

What a disgraceful display from Metiria Turei and the Greens yesterday. They refused to vote for a motion congratulating Trump on his win, and even demanded a party vote so that their opposition to the motion would be written into Hansard.

Clearly, they only approve of and accept democracy when it delivers the result they want. It was a new low from Turei, which is saying something. (Her contribution starts around the 4:15 mark)

https://youtu.be/B19Mr4TO6sY
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November 11, 2016 8:07am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Hear hear, and if by some miracle they end up in Government joined at the hip with Labour, how is this divided monster going to have a policy on US relations?
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:15am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Their policy is simple Cap’n. They will have relations with ‘merica and long as ‘merica votes for the candidate the NZ Greens tell ‘mericans to vote for.
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:18am
- Pateke
  
  Yes, a new low from a very low base level. She then immediately left the house.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:17am
- kowtow
  
  Climate change , misogyny and racism.
  
  Shows how utterly out of touch the “Greens” are.
  
  If it weren’t for the constant bleating in the media and in academia about those three Great Satans the Greens would have nothing.
  
  Funny thing is Trumps’ most public message is a left wing one , protectionism and job creation. Why then does the left so despise him.
  
  The answer has to be that he does not fit the new left message of gender and identity issues taking priority over working class issues .
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:18am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Probably populist rather than left wing.
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:21am
  - Liberty
    
    “Why then does the left so despise him.”
    Because Trump is more vile than they are.
    If he was a Capitalist I would have some time for him.
    But he nothing more than a moocher and looter.
    Capitalist don’t close the borders to subsidies
    inefficient local industry. A capitalist would support TPP.
    Trump is like our Winston They live in a time warp of the 1950s
    The confederate flag will soon fly in the south.
    The white robed will crawl out of there hole.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:05am
    - itstricky
      
      I’d disagree with the hysteria over white robes but certainly, some of the congratulations Mr Trump shist going on here I just can’t see going down when Winnie is PM.
      
      I guess there’ll also be a few here changing there vote to NZF by the sounds of it.
      
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      November 11, 2016 12:03pm
- alloytoo
  
  Science, economics and Democracy three things the Greens neither understand nor support.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:22am
- RF
  
  The Gweens are lower than shark shit and should be treated with the contempt they bring upon themselves.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:23am
- billmurray
  
  Treasonous.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:31am
- namron
  
  Metiria’s bio on the Green website has this statement –
  “My dream is every NZer, no matter what ethnicity, religion, sex, age or background, being treated with dignity and respect.”
  This obviously doesn’t apply to Americans!
  Namron
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:36am
  - Viking2
    
    That would be nice. Perhaps she could set and example for the younger generation! No?
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:54am
- rangitoto
  
  “Engage respectfully, without personal attacks”
  
  Seems to have been dropped as a Green Party axiom.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:43am
- Biscuit
  
  Indeed, Keeping Stock.
  
  Mr Trump garnered 47.5% of the popular vote (last time I checked). Mrs C is marginally ahead of that…
  
  The Red Green Party here, in our 2011 election, managed to get 11.06% of the popular vote…
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:44am
  - Biscuit
    
    Why the (naughty swear word deleted) did I use 2011?
    
    2014 saw the Red Green vote fall to 10.7%.
    
    Much better for argumentative purposes!
    
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    November 11, 2016 10:02am
- starboard
  
  We need to go back to calling them the McGillicuddy Serious Party, which is what they really are. Greens sounds so fab, gooey and hip to the likes of the hard of thinking Itstricky, morrissey, gobby, et al. Label them what they really are and the penny might drop with some.
  
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  November 11, 2016 1:04pm
  - sam green
    
    You really are a pillock. How do you remember to breathe?
    
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    November 11, 2016 2:08pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Sam, wasn’t your last post about Ad Hom?
      
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      November 11, 2016 2:11pm
    - starboard
      
      Sorry sam, you’re obviously pissed that I left you out of the hard of thinking list..consider yourself added.
      Now go play with your rubicks cube boy..you do know the latest record is 4 seconds.
      
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      November 11, 2016 2:39pm
    - itstricky
      
      I imagine starboard is one of the 26 who upticked Steve’s post on the parody earlier, Sam, whilst calling us ‘hard of thinking’
      
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      November 11, 2016 5:34pm
EAD

This morning the NZ MSM is still banging on about how Trump’s support all came from “White voters without a college degree”, often “rural” or “older”

Given a “degree” these days is as common as muck and 80% of the time is not worth the paper it’s printed on, it is such a despicable tactic, to paint a picture of Trump voters as backwards rubes and slack jawed yokels, unlike the slick well informed urbanites who voted for Hillary (and of course get violent when their beloved “democracy” doesn’t go their way)

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2016/11/rioting-for-peace-and-democracy.html?m=0

Of course they never make remarks of that kind when referring to the Latinos/Blacks who voted for Hillary who, as we all know as a group, have lower/significantly lower IQs and levels of education than Europeans.

Given that over 60% of whites voted for Trump and over 70/85% of “minorities voted for Hillary I think it is fairly safe to assume that the average IQ of the Trump voters is greater than the average IQ of the Hillary voters – and also much more tribal in the way they vote (which unlike Europeans who lean Republican, the MSM doesn’t have an issue with)
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November 11, 2016 8:08am
- SteveRemmington
  
  A good response to what has occurred.
  
  http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/sneering-response-trumps-victory-reveals-exactly-won/
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:10am
  - Nukuleka
    
    During a recent month in the UK this attitude towards the Brexiteers was evident in the comments by so many Remainer friends- Brexiteers were low-life, uneducated, white, voting because of prejudice and not logic, and so on. I am reading exactly the same things now from Clinton-voting friends in emails from the US: Trump voters were poorly-educated, they were white (presumably another mark of the neanderthal low-life), they were mosogynists, homophobes, supporters of the KKK and so on. To such people democracy is a good thing only when their candidate wins.
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:29am
  - RalphT
    
    Steve, well put. Thanks for the link.
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:37am
    - Ross12
      
      Agree Ralph.
      
      I like this line “The lofty contempt for ‘low information’ Americans.”
      The MSM are responsible for this. I wonder how many know about Trump’s “Contract” he launched in the speech he gave at Gettysburg?
      
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      November 11, 2016 9:52am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Of course they never make remarks of that kind when referring to the Latinos/Blacks who voted for Hillary who, as we all know as a group, have lower/significantly lower IQs and levels of education than Europeans.
  
  Is that a statement of proven fact, or an opinion you hold EAD. If it is the former, I’d be interested to see the evidence.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:13am
  - mikenmild
    
    There is good evidence that IQ testing is indeed culturally biased…
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:55am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, testing as it is done measures something and it does seem to vary within broad “racial” groups. Quite what it measures isn’t really agreed upon, and also unclear is the extent to which the racial grouping is merely a marker for something like cultural influences or is related to underlying genetic influences.
      
      It is definitely stretching it to call it intelligence as such, but to think of it as some form of that within the cultural milieu that it is measured is possibly not entirely incorrect.
      
      Worth noting for those wanting cry racism too quickly over this that on these measures there’s three basic levels; Asians, then Caucasians, then Africans thought that’s being very broad. So it can’t really be claimed to support white supremacists, they’re only second class types in this hierarchy !
      
      Also confusing is the Flynn Effect, (named after a NZ’er) whereby apparent measured IQ is going up by a measurable amount over time. Confounding that is the observation that people simply aren’t that much smarter. So it does all seem to be bound up in quite what is being measured and how. Not pseudo science as such, but not at all well understood.
      
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      November 11, 2016 10:42am
- Gabby
  
  Low information voters, low information. Good words though. Great words.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:18am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Yes, sure, and most of them voted for Clinton it seems.
    
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    November 11, 2016 10:43am
- All_on_Red
  
  The MSM continue to prove they know fuck all.
  Clinton won 53-41% in <$30k
  She won 51-42 $30-50k
  Trump won 50-46 $50-100k
  He won 48-47 $100-200k
  He won 49-48 $200-250k
  He won 48-46 $250k+
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:23am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Young folks for Trump: white millennials (18-29 year-olds) voted for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton by 48% to 43%.
    Andrew Neil BBC
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:29am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Screenshot of analysis from Exit Polls of 24,537 people by the Clinton News Network
      White college women Clinton 51% Trump 45%
      White college men Clinton 39% Trump 54%
      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwzTlW3XcAAj_Jp?format=jpg&name=large
      
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      November 11, 2016 8:42am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Fuller data here
        http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls/national/president
        
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        November 11, 2016 9:06am
  - mikenmild
    
    I’m surprised he didn’t do a lot better in those higher income groups, given his plan to make massive tax cuts.
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:57am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Maybe they don’t really pay enough tax to notice the cuts. The really clever wealthy work like the Clinton’s and funnel everything through “Charities” maybe ? Even Chelsey Clinton’s wedding was paid for by the Clinton Foundation “charity”.
      
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      November 11, 2016 10:45am
- kowtow
  
  Leo McKinstry on the result.
  
  “Insulated by their wealth, cocooned by their ideology, they thought that the British and American people would continue to swallow their propaganda, allowing them to maintain their grip on power. ”
  
  http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/730661/US-President-election-Donald-Trump-Hillary-Clinton-Brexit-EU-Referendum
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:24am
- SPC
  
  To state what should be obvious.
  
  In the past baby boomers left HS with a Diploma and got good paying union jobs, today the millenials leave university with a lot of debt and might or might not get a job.
  
  The baby boomers voted for Trump (these people are numerous and they turn out to vote) and many do not have a “college” degree.
  
  Like the older Brexit voter, they are concerned about the impact of immigration changing the demographics of society. And like all those without domestic sector secure jobs or global market professional status are concerned about wage levels and job security.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:32am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Exactly. Older and wiser people voted for Trump. For historical reasons, those people are less likely to have a degree. It doesn’t follow that the lack of a degree caused them to vote for Trump.
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:37am
    - EAD
      
      Indeed Nigel Kearney,
      
      most ‘degrees’ today are worth nothing, with academia in most subjects representing nothing more than leftist indoctrination. They serve as just another reason for a millenial who knows nothing about anything to feel self-righteous in their virtue signalling; I’ve been educated about this stuff, so I know best, yadda yadda yadda.
      
      Think of all the leftist morons who brandish their degrees in politics, as if knowing a bunch of abstract theory and the history of the electoral system gave them some kind of unique wisdom the average man lacks in choosing political priorities.
      
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      November 11, 2016 8:46am
      - mikenmild
        
        Everyone knows you don’t need a university degree to become a Nazi…
        
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        November 11, 2016 8:59am
      - waikatogirl
        
        All part of Hulun’s “Knowledge Wave economy”
        
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        November 11, 2016 9:01am
      - howitis
        
        NZ.
        Born circa 1955. 4% of cohort gets an undergraduate degree.
        Born circa 1995. 26% of cohort gets a degree. More than half of that is HR Fluff n stuff.
        
        Quite frankly if you left school in NZ in 1970 at 16 you could get an apprenticeship and be a qualified tradie at 20 then own a house at 22. Many 22 year olds today have debt and are no better prepared to take on the world than when they were 14.
        We see this with the crybaby ‘it’s not fair’ thugery in the US this week.
        
        How are tertiary quals helping things?
        About 60% of NZ graduates from tertiary are now women (ergo 40% are male, or confused).
        Yet we are told women earn 12% less that men in NZ (on KB about a week ago).
        It would seem tertiary qualification with the mass produced crap of sociology, anthropology and Wimins studies is not an asset itself and gives no right to claim intellectual superiority.
        
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        November 11, 2016 11:24am
    - ross411
      
      Jack Tame calls them uneducated 😆
      
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      November 11, 2016 8:48am
      - Inandout
        
        Is Jack back with Mamma yet on Brekkie One?
        
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        November 11, 2016 9:06am
      - howitis
        
        How can Tame actually stand without a backbone?
        
        Is this some Industrial Light & Magic trick from George Lucas?
        
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        November 11, 2016 11:03am
- Liberty
  
  Trump’s support all came from “White voters without a college degree”, often “rural” or “older””
  Along with the fundamentalist bible belt.
  
  Archer bunker, Ned flanders and Hommer Simpson type are having a really good week in the USA.
  
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  November 11, 2016 11:39am
Don the Kiwi

From my mate Don McClarey in Dwight, Illinois:

Ah California, the largest insane asylum in our country, with certain honorable exceptions, has groups calling for the State to secede from the Union. They have come into the limelight due to moonbat California’s rage at the election of Trump. I confess that I wish nothing but success for this movement with one caveat: votes should be taken county by county as to whether to stay in the Union. Counties voting to stay in the Union would remain American territory. Blue enclaves could then form their Republic or Republics. Refugees to the US would be welcome, after they step on a photo of Jerry Brown, recite the Pledge of Allegiance and use an automatic assault weapon against a target with a picture of Hollywood glitterati tacked to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=95&v=HRxZfKZlDT0
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November 11, 2016 8:12am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRxZfKZlDT0
  
  This is the correct link.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:17am
- Gabby
  
  Sounds like donkey wee. I guess Texas’ll be staying now the Whiteouse is white again.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:20am
  - Garbageman
    
    Fk must be benefit day you are up spraying your own special form of piss everywhere rather early, rather entertaining when you can actually decipher the childlike scribbling’s
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:39am
    - Gabby
      
      thats garbage, man
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      couple spear apotrostrophe”s for ya
      
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      November 11, 2016 8:52am
Lance

@EAD
You do realize there is a difference between IQ and education?
Because your statement about entire races having lower IQ is eugenics inspired horseshit
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November 11, 2016 8:14am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  I’ll just leave this here.
  
  https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:18am
- burt
  
  I’ll just leave this here.
  
  http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:03am
- howitis
  
  Try some of these :
  I will limit it to 3 links as I think it goes to moderation if there are more. There is plenty more. People of different ethnic background have varying IQ.
  ……
  Straight IQ numbers by country
  http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html
  …..
  A Wikipedia view with some discussion of the weaknesses of IQ comparisons
  Book overview
  The book includes the authors’ calculation of average IQ scores for 60 countries, based on their analysis of published reports. It reports their observation that national IQ correlates with gross domestic product per capita at 0.82, and with the rate of economic growth from 1950–1990 at 0.64.
  The authors believe that average IQ differences between nations are due to both genetic and environmental factors. They also believe that low GDP can cause low IQ, just as low IQ can cause low GDP. (See Positive feedback).
  The authors write that it is the ethical responsibility of rich, high-IQ nations to assist poor, low-IQ nations financially, as it is the responsibility of rich citizens to assist the poor.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations
  ………
  Facebook has explained away another year of dreadful diversity figures by claiming that there simply aren’t enough minorities available for it to hire.
  Despite having been at the receiving end of years of criticism for its overwhelmingly white male workforce, the social media giant’s latest figures show that only 4 per cent of its workers are Hispanic and just 2 per cent African-American. The percentage of women at the company crept up a single percentage point to 33 per cent.
  Despite acknowledging that “we still have a long way to go,” the company that is never wrong says it has been “working hard to increase diversity” but has been stymied by the fact that there just aren’t enough qualified people that aren’t white men.
  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/14/facebook_non_diversity/
  
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  November 11, 2016 12:53pm
Left Right and Centre

The election result that keeps on giving . . .
On tv – kiwi woman reporter at (Auckland ?) airport vox pops middle-aged American white couple just arrived in. Do they know the result ? No – we’ve just got off a 12 hour flight, so no. Trump won. By their priceless silent reaction, screwed up faces and trying to walk away . . .
Finding out right after a 12 hour flight – ouch – maybe they’re thinking about making it a one-way trip now ?
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November 11, 2016 8:16am
- burt
  
  The US is better off if people who don’t respect democracy and accept the outcome of the election leave the country.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:37am
  - Viking2
    
    We need to build a tidal wall to keep the democrat losers out. Perhaps Australia will take them to on ship to Naru.
    
    They might even like to go to Afghanistan.
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:59am
    - burt
      
      They will be welcome here by the Labour party. Buying elections is OK in NZ because we can just retrospectively validate the theft and move on.
      
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      November 11, 2016 9:05am
  - jonar
    
    Conversely I bet there was no complaining or disappointment here last time Labour won an election.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:10am
  - rangitoto
    
    Labour will be releasing a report on American sounding names pushing up Auckland house prices.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:46am
oldpark

Seems the jokes of the week are NZs “infantile” Green Party they put the boot into Donald Trump,yet they didnt even have a vote. I dont recall their defacto leader from North Korea KIM JONG-UN,getting the same abuse,as the “infantile” Green Party have dished out to the democratically elected USA President elect.,Donald Trump.
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November 11, 2016 8:16am
- itstricky
  
  Let’s not forget that old Kimmy endorsed Trump for President…
  
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  November 11, 2016 5:46pm
Garbageman

Morning all, a couple of my favourite lines from this election:
Trump: lets get that Muslim band going
“band? we thought you said ban”
Trump: No Way that’s harsh, also how’s that Mexican mall going. &
“Media which got everything wrong will now tell you all the things that will happen as a result of the thing they said wouldn’t happen”
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November 11, 2016 8:23am
- All_on_Red
  
  Very good, Build that Mall and make Mexico pay for it. Ten foot higher too!
  It’s like ‘bigly’. I learned the other day that he probably said ‘big league’ but because he mumbled it came across as ‘bigly’.
  I quite like bigly as a word.
  ‘when it comes to being really stupid, there is none so bigly as Stephie’
  See, it works.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:53am
  - mikenmild
    
    He definitely said ‘bigly’ – I heard it distinctly ikn at least two of the debates, and in context where ‘big league’ would make no sense. Not that his rambles make much sense anyway.
    He has the best words, the best words…
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:02am
Happychappy

Why do people in Labour say that Stuart Nash is the future of the Labour Party.So after hearing his praise for Andrew Little and voicing his opinion that his leader is a winner and would win the next election i wonder where he sourced his facts.The evidence of history goes agianst what Nash has said ,for instance how can this man be a winner when under his watch at the CTU union membership took it’s largest drop in member in union history,he has also stood in what used to be the safe Labour seat of New Plymouth twice losing both times to National.This so called winner makes statements that slander people and to my knowledge has not been a winner yet,so people take your own view if this man is a winner he must not know what losing means
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November 11, 2016 8:24am
Gabby

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I’m not an old fart, yet I can’t recall the NZ parliament congatulating Kim Jung Un. Did Ponyboy move that one?
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November 11, 2016 8:26am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  So you are saying Trump is like Kim Jung Un?
  
  And why is John Key responsible? Can you explain please?
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:30am
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    Why’re you casting aspersions on Ponyboy? Do have reasons for claiming he is irresponsible? Why are you backinaterriss? Guessim guss! Jorna righsigh!
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:36am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Wow…. a genuine insane troll ladies and gents. Not even a very witty one.
      
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      November 11, 2016 8:41am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Not witty at all.
        Fell asleep reading the drivel.
        
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        November 11, 2016 8:45am
      - ross411
        
        Join the rest of us in ignoring it’s nonsense.
        
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        November 11, 2016 8:45am
      - sam green
        
        But ya read it – and ya commented – and ya downticked.
        
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        November 11, 2016 2:38pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  You are not an old fart? definitely not, otherwise we would understand the drivel. A 10 year old? definately
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:52am
- Rich Prick
  
  Not an old fart? You barely qualify as pre-digested cabbage.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:38am
Simon

Trump proposed first 100 day agenda looks good,

Seven actions to protect American workers:

FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
★ SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward.
★ SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.

Just beautiful.

Trump is upsetting the right people. Snot nosed Greens can go weave baskets.

Remember Greenie Tards the campaign slogan “Support Trump because fuck you”

Living standards will soar under Prez Trump.
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November 11, 2016 8:28am
- All_on_Red
  
  He’s going to wind back the EPA goal of 54 mpg by 2020 too. This will make it easier for US car manufacturers to make their cars cheaper.
  Not sure Tesla will be happy about this policy…
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:56am
- holysheet
  
  I love the seventh one. Imagine Griff will have to up his meds to toxic levels after reading that.
  All bets are off, now that Trump will appoint a global warming denier to head the climate change office. There will have to be a new list of scientists who will suddenly change their ideas now that the money will not be coming their way anymore.
  I wait with glee to see how many on Griffs list that he continually posts here, now change their affiliations and opinions.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:02am
  - Ross12
    
    He announced who he is appointing to sort out the EPA about 6 weeks ago. Meant to be a top class guy ( Myron Bell)who knows what he is talking about. A lot of people in the EPA will be getting their CVs ready.
    
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    November 11, 2016 10:04am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It’s a nice wish list. But how on earth will he pay for it (the tax cuts). Not possible to enact without enormous borrowing (which entirely defeats the purpose of improving the economy).
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:14am
Garbageman

Briefly caught a snippet from the news this morning with someone (I assume the Maori Party) having a whinge that Vicki Letele being kept in prison and not sent home to die earlier was a blatantly racist call by the Govt anyone got anymore on this I cant find it anywhere
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November 11, 2016 8:29am
- burt
  
  Special people – they don’t think the consequences of crime should apply to them. Possibly Labour voters who’ve seen Labour politicians break the law with impunity so they expect it for themselves.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:31am
- oldpark
  
  Heard Marama Fox on Radio Lives 5.00am news ,saying that Vicki Letele was kept in jail longer because she was MAORI. Not a word or compassion,about the poor unfortunates,who Letele,has condemmed them to a lifetime of virtually bread and water. Mrs Fox didnt seem to have the same compassion for Leteles victims,wonder were they MAORI.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:39am
  - Garbageman
    
    Thanks I guess there will be a claim for compensation (koha) that will manage to soothe her & the whanau for the nasty wrongdoings of whitey daring to lock her up in the first place, personally im happy to see her out with her family on her last few months, wonder how she feels about that clown Fox crying wacism (like she does with everything) though and drawing yet more attention to her deceitful past
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:51am
  - lilman
    
    Bloody woman would be held accountable through her family if I were a judge,they pay she gets out.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:23am
- waikatogirl
  
  That’s it in a nutshell.
  Racist calling everyone else out
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:46am
- Sideoiler
  
  @ Garbageman Radio NZ this morning, the interviewer was the Ferguson woman.
  The question was to the fraudsters brother, along the lines of do you think it is institutional racisim that she was not let out of prison.
  I think you can probably guess what his answer was.
  Try this link.
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=201823386
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:06am
burt

I’m surprised at how many people in the US don’t like democracy. Do they not know that democracy is core to the constitution of the country they live in ?
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November 11, 2016 8:29am
- Gabby
  
  You missed the last 3 elections I take it. Too preoccupied with the Labour induced recession.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:38am
  - burt
    
    Last 3 elections here or in the US ?
    
    Laughing my head off last night watching some particularly low IQ woman screeching that Trump was elected because of systemic racism in the US. I guess Obama being elected for 2 terms was the Illuminati trying to trick us that the US isn’t racist.
    
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    November 11, 2016 8:51am
- Lance
  
  Considering the size of the US population, a few rent-a-mob pissed off at democracy is not exactly significant.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:40am
  - kowtow
    
    And there you have it. The media have latched onto it and want to give the impression that America is in flames……..
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:04am
    - Rich Prick
      
      5,000/325,000,000 = my calculator won’t deal with such small numbers. Yet the media will.
      
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      November 11, 2016 10:12am
- kowtow
  
  I think part of what we’re seeing is Obummers legacy.
  
  After 8 years of Hope and Change , a very divided and angry society with a huge sense of entitlement among the young “educated” university elites and among many blacks.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:59am
ross411

Someone above provided a link to a Spectator article. This was my pick of the comments:

Amenephis colchar • 2 hours ago
Aye, but the problem is that the left absolutely mandates that all people MUST be forced into groups. Individuality is inherently morally detestable.

ALL white people are exactly the same.

ALL black people are exactly the same.

ALL men are exactly the same.

ALL women are exactly the same.

Etc. etc.

As such, when they look at this, they see Hillary not as an individual, but as a woman, and therefore her rejection as a rejection of all women. Leftist ideology is actually utterly incapable of distinguishing individuality and indeed abhors even the idea of doing so. It demands conformity to the group.

How much more on point could this be? All white people are privileged because all black people are discriminated against. Etc.
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November 11, 2016 8:36am
- Rich Prick
  
  The left have to organise society by identity, otherwise their victim pyramid won’t work. Nor does their “heros, bastards and losers” game. Where they get to be the heros protecting the losers from the bastards.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:14am
  - ross411
    
    I suspect it comes down to being easier to contruct wrongs, if you rearrange the facts. And simplistic facts that can’t be questioned due to the lack of detail, are the best they can do, because any deeper and the problems would be obvious.
    
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    November 11, 2016 10:19am
Left Right and Centre

Marama Fox says Vicki Letele received prejudiced treatment because she is Maori.
Yes – Vicki’s undue incarceration is right up there with Nelson Mandela.
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November 11, 2016 8:42am
- alloytoo
  
  Was Vicki a terrorist too?
  
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  November 11, 2016 10:28am
Happychappy

While i agree that if Vicki Letele has a short time to live she should be at home with her family to see her time out i would like to give another view without being seen as heartless.In and arouund the 1986/87 sharemarket crash and the fraud case’s that followed would you show the same compassion as people are now if one of your loves ones had taken their own lives because fraud had wiped out their and family’s life savings.
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November 11, 2016 8:44am
- ross411
  
  The fact that she is sick and dying in prison, is the reason she should stay. If the sentence seems harsh, don’t do the crime.
  
  Her family didn’t come along and alleviate the suffering of those she harmed, when they were in need, did they? Did Marama Fox? No, I don’t think so.
  
  This is grandstanding special treatment.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:51am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  I am not worried about being seen as heartless so I will say as I see it.
  She is a no good who deserves no sympathy or compassion and if she dies in prison tough luck.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:01am
- Rich Prick
  
  Isn’t it funny how a bit of misfortune expunges the crime. In a be kind to me, the ledger has been balanced, kind of way.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:10am
- mikenmild
  
  I don’t have any particular problem with someone dying in prison. In this case, though, she was unable to receive appropriate care in prison.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:16am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Mikenmild, we only have the highly slanted news reports telling us that.
    
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    November 11, 2016 10:50am
Colville

I hope Trumps first move is to deport the million ++ illegal immigrants who have criminal records.

First day out of jail should be a bus (or plane) ride back over the border while handcuffed to the seat.
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November 11, 2016 8:46am
- ross411
  
  To be fair, it’s a waste of money. People deported can be back over the next day. The mythical wall would need to come first.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:49am
  - lilman
    
    Send them back with an explanation that if they come back they are executed.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:27am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    He also has policy of long incarceration for recidivist and criminal border jumpers
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:17am
Manolo

Self-flagellation:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-the-unbearable-smugness-of-the-press-presidential-election-2016/

This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness.
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November 11, 2016 8:55am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Monolo,
  Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Newspapers blame the internet for their dramatic fall in circulation. They will never admit that their unbearable smugness is the big contributor to those appalling circulation figures.
  
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  November 11, 2016 11:24am
dime

No way Trump gets all of his 100 days plan done…

but goddam if he gets half of it the US economy is going to boom.
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November 11, 2016 8:56am
- tom hunter
  
  Exactly. They don’t have to “do” much at all apart from removing the weight of all the shit legislation of recent years (decades) in order for the economy to go.
  
  But it also depends on the GOP in Congress. Even after the disappointments following the 2010 and 2014 elections, they’ve been given another chance.
  
  They better not fuck it up again. They’ve got no excuses now.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:07am
  - mikenmild
    
    I just hope your expectation are not too high.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:12am
    - tom hunter
      
      As Obama supporters from 2008 know full well…
      
      History has a cruel way with optimism
      
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      November 11, 2016 9:16am
      - mikenmild
        
        H L Mencken quote coming right up…
        
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        November 11, 2016 9:19am
      - tom hunter
        
        On that front I was amused by this long ago commentary (early 2009) on Obama being a Manchurian candidate for the GOP given the following…
        
        • Obama leaving his signature domestic reform — health care — in the hands of people least likely to come up with a plan palatable to a majority of Americans.
        
        • A cap and trade bill so horrendously corrupt and mismanaged that its passage in the House marked the first time in years that Republicans out-polled Democrats on the generic congressional ballot.
        
        • A candidate who called Afghanistan “the necessary war,” is now on his second major review, just since March, of how to fight it.
        
        • Never meeting once face-to-face with the general in charge of commanding that “necessary war.”
        
        • Telling the world Gitmo was evil, then leaving it open for business.
        
        • Sitting on intelligence, until just this Friday, showing that Iran’s WMD program is more advanced than feared.
        
        • Selling out Eastern Europe to the Russians. We haven’t had a Democrat do that since Roosevelt.
        
        • A foreign policy initiative for Iran which relies on the idea of both China and Russia not selling stuff to somebody with cash to spend?
        
        • Bailing out banks with hundreds of billions of dollars, yet still without removing a single toxic asset.
        
        • Signing a non-stimulating stimulus so massive that Americans are afraid of deficits for the first time since Ross Perot went around screaming about his crazy aunt.
        
        • Most anything involving Joe Biden.
        
        Given the way he’s torched his own party in the years since then, that claim may now be even stronger.
        
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        November 11, 2016 10:02am
Rich Prick

http://www.weeklystandard.com/schools-offer-counseling-professors-postpone-exams-after-trump-win/article/2005314

Barnard, a women’s liberal arts college based in New York City, has given professors the opportunity to cancel classes and is offering students counseling after the “heightened emotions” caused by the election. “The Barnard faculty is well aware that you may be struggling, and they are here for you,” read an email from the college president and dean.

I fear these precious creatures are beyond help, they will never be ready for the real world.
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November 11, 2016 9:06am
waikatogirl

JK should invite President Trump to NZ at his earliest convenience. Get the jump on all those other leaders who condemned the idea of him being President.

The icing on the cake would be Materia having a meltdown!
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November 11, 2016 9:09am
- mikenmild
  
  We’ve had two presidents visit in 60 years, so we shouldn’t hold our breath. I’m sure we’ll invite him though.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:14am
- Paulus
  
  Material has a US Navy vessel coming to New Zealand next week.
  She does not need water wings to stop this vessel – she has built in ones.
  
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  November 11, 2016 10:51am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Great idea.
  Get him to address parliament as well on race relations and immigration matters just to twist the knife.
  
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  November 11, 2016 10:57am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  He’ll be way too busy with managing presidency, his businesses and fighting his court battles to indulge in foreign frolics
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:20am
jonar

It’s interesting that there’s a huge cheering on here for those who voted in Trump. They’ll typically be people who lost out jobs due to globalisation, living in depressed areas in the states. But when people in NZ in the same position complain the opinion of commentators here seems to be they should suck it up, retrain and shift if there’s no jobs. Why the different regard to those in the States?
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November 11, 2016 9:16am
- mikenmild
  
  True. It seems to me that quite a few of our own dear Trumpistas here would be outraged if a NZ politician proposed some of Trump’s policies for our country.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:18am
  - rangitoto
    
    I’m in favour of building a wall to keep illegal Mexican’s out.
    
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    November 11, 2016 10:03am
    - stigie
      
      Be great to build a wall to keep the Green parasites out after that disgusting speech yesterday in parliament..?
      
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      November 11, 2016 11:04am
- tom hunter
  
  It could be as simple as the idea that many people in NZ in the mid-80’s welcomed massive change because what existed seemed to no longer work. So most people don’t want to go back in time, and the result is that those who wish to wind the clock back have gained no traction.
  
  By contrast, the America of the 1950’s – or even the 1980’s and 90’s is regarded as a time when things “worked” and many – perhaps most – do want to try and go back to those times. This is not just a Right-Wing-When-Whites-Dominated meme applied by the US Left, it also applies to the US Left itself – at least judging by the paens to the unionised, well-paid jobs and stable culture of the 1950’s that I’ve seen the likes of Krugman and others pen.
  
  I’d also add the fact that quite a few of the Trumpitistas here are raging for Winston or somebody to stick the knife into John Key. Although they’ll never vite for Labour/Green, they hate Key and place him in the same basket as the Bushes, Clintons, Blair, Cameron and so forth.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:25am
  - dime
    
    I dont hate key but he lost my vote.
    
    NZ is a tiny country. We need to be a trading nation. Free trade = good.
    
    The US are big enough to act differently.
    
    Im not saying they shouldnt encourage trade. but they seem out of whack.
    
    NZ isnt full of giant home grown corporates doing evil shit and we dont have the lobbyist problem that the yanks have. not to the same level anyway.
    
    the yanks dont need to go full protectionist by any stretch, they just need to make it easier to do business.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:38am
    - tom hunter
      
      I remember writing in 2008 on Kiwiblog that I doubted whether Key would do much as PM. It seemed to me that he’d be Holyoake 2.0. And in certain situations that’s not a bad thing.
      
      But Key and company have never really tried to even make the arguments for long-term, fundamental changes to our state systems. I guess they think that feelings from the 1980’s are still too raw to allow for words like “fundamental change” to be bandied about.
      
      However, there’s just nobody else to vote for unless you want to see Green-Labour in charge.
      Winston The Bauble Clown?
      Harry Potter And The Balding Philosopher?
      Colin I Lie Between Your Legs Craig?
      
      Sigh!
      
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      November 11, 2016 9:52am
      - dime
        
        act or winnie
        
        key lost my vote. he wont man up enough to get it back
        
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        November 11, 2016 10:22am
  - KevinH
    
    Gareth Morgan must be feeling encouraged with the anti establishment backlash that has put Trump into the Whitehouse.
    If there is a movement underway as Trump claims then New Zealand will become a part of it to.
    All of the old guard, the traditional politicians must realise that their days are numbered.
    Change is coming.
    
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    November 11, 2016 9:42am
    - Andrei
      
      Gareth Morgan is just a airhead opportunist – he’s no Donald Trump
      
      His foray into politics will come unglued like Colin Craig’s before him because neither men are people of substance
      
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      November 11, 2016 10:13am
    - Colville
      
      I hope Gareth does really really well. At least 4.5% of the popular vote really well 🙂
      
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      November 11, 2016 10:24am
- Inandout
  
  Are our unemployed as badly off as US unemployed? Does the US have a myriad of welfare nets and benefits to cushion their unemployed? Also the innate US work ethic I’ll wager is much stronger than ours.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:38am
  - tom hunter
    
    Short answer – no. For example, unemployment money is literally insurance in the USA. In theory you build up a small, fund from your salary/wages, based on how long you work, then draw that down during unemployment.
    
    Once the fund is gone, you’re done, and if you’re in low-skilled, temp jobs mixed with periods of unemployment, it gets really tough over time.
    
    Meanwhile, the welfare system is so fractured that you almost have to approach it as a full-time job itself to get much – which many people increasingly do. Hence tens of millions of “unemployed” who’ve simply given up looking.
    
    It’s a tough system, no question. Which makes the trillions spent on “welfare” over the last fifty years, look even more useless in truly helping people.
    
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    November 11, 2016 10:15am
Pateke

I wonder why men don’t put their hats in the ring to stand for the Labour Party any more? Or perhaps I should modify that to openly straight white men not standing?
I wonder if Silent T is still sorry he is a male?
I wonder why Shane Jones left the Party?
I wonder if chardonnay has been the downfall of the Labour Party?
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November 11, 2016 9:31am
rangitoto

With all the excitement of the US elections I missed the news of the passing of Clive Dunn. RIP.

Don’t panic Captain Mainwaring
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November 11, 2016 10:01am
- tom hunter
  
  Still one of the classics of British TV – but I wonder how many Brits would identify in any way at all with those characters now? Their understated wit and dignity, even in undignified situations.
  
  It’s like comparing Coronation Street of 2016 to that of 1965; a show I’ve not watched in over 30 years but which I’ve seen clips of that seem utterly alien to the show I watched with my parents.
  
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  November 11, 2016 10:10am
- RalphT
  
  ? I thought that happened four years ago?
  
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  November 11, 2016 10:31am
  - rangitoto
    
    You are right. No idea why it came up on my new feed.
    
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    November 11, 2016 10:34am
    - mikenmild
      
      The recent news was that the series creator had died.
      
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      November 11, 2016 11:11am
Fletch

Newsweek is forced to recall 125,000 issues of its commemorative election special. They printed it with two cover stories – one with Hillary as the winner on the cover, and one with Trump as the winner. Guess which ones they sent out to the newsstands before the winner was announced?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/10/newsweek-recalls-125000-copies-of-its-souvenir-madam-president-i/
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November 11, 2016 10:30am
- tom hunter
  
  It was worth every bit of that $US 1.00 it was sold for a few years ago.
  
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  November 11, 2016 10:37am
Manolo

The bloodletting has started:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donna-brazile-democratic-national-committee_us_5824cb95e4b0ddd4fe7954e8

On Thursday, Democratic Party officials held their first staff meeting since Hillary Clinton’s stunning loss to Donald Trump in the presidential race. It didn’t go well.

Donna Brazile, the interim leader of the Democratic National Committee, was giving what one attendee described as “a rip-roaring speech” to about 150 employees, about the need to have hope for wins going forward, when a staffer identified only as Zach stood up with a question.

“Why should we trust you as chair to lead us through this?” he asked, according to two people in the room. “You backed a flawed candidate, and your friend [former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz] plotted through this to support your own gain and yourself.”
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November 11, 2016 11:54am
Manolo

The Messiah’s legacy:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3922902/Leaderless-Democratic-Party-dire-straits-GOP-sweeps.html

President Barack Obama hands over the White House to Republican Donald Trump in 71 days, leaving the Democratic Party leaderless and with few up-and-coming stars among its aging cast of stalwarts.
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November 11, 2016 11:56am
Maggy Wassilieff

Good to know that 10,000 worthies are working hard to save us all from climate doom.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/jet-set-life-of-wwf-wanker/#comments

So important in this cyberspace age to have meetings in the flesh.
But such a drag having to travel to sunny Marrakesh during a bleak winter.
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November 11, 2016 12:01pm
Manolo

Paris becomes more and more attractive to the invaders. Final destination: the UK.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3923042/Just-send-straight-England-instead-Paris-reacts-anger-city-s-migrant-camp-expected-draw-thousands-French-capital.html

The first official refugee camp in the history of Paris today opened its doors for the first time – prompting fears that it will become a magnet for thousands of UK-bound migrants.

A trickle of young men was let inside the £6 million facility, which is in a former bus shelter in the north of the French capital, close to the Gare du Nord Eurostar hub.
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November 11, 2016 12:06pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  That will finally get the insulated elites to start doing something about the problem (having it on their doorsteps)
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:25am
Manolo

EUR vs USD:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/the-us-dollar-is-tipped-to-reach-parity-with-the-euro-following-trumps-win.html
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November 11, 2016 12:16pm
Steve (North Shore)

Next Council Elections in Auckland we should do this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/piv2s1pvnax1ler/Talkeetna%20mayor.png?dl=0
Would be as much use as the shithead we have now.
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November 11, 2016 12:16pm
thedavincimode

Life imitates art 60 years on from the Goons
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November 11, 2016 12:33pm
lilman

Has anyone seen Stephieboy,I hope he isnt to upset after Trump won?

I love democracy.
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November 11, 2016 12:33pm
- stigie
  
  Still trying to find that rope lilman..?
  
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  November 11, 2016 12:35pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Love it when Karma is the referee
  
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  November 11, 2016 12:44pm
- stephieboy
  
  lilman, not at all as I anticipated to some extent this kind of result by following Michael Moore who predicted this outcome .Of course, you always hope for a better outcome but clearly the result was an anti-establishment vote.
  
  The extent of Trump’s victory from me was a surprise, though.You learn to take these kinds of things on the chin and unlike maybe you, and other Trumpists don’t make it central to living and running my life .
  
  The Democrats for that matter need to regroup and reform . Changing themselves from a Washington-based fundraising machine to what they were originally a grassroots local party with a strong membership base located precisely in the areas where Trump succeeded against expectations ( rust and blue collar belts etc )
  
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  November 11, 2016 1:23pm
  - Manolo
    
    Thank Allah, stephieboy. For a moment I thought you had flown to NYC (via Saudi Arabia) to console your beloved Hillary. How wrong I was!
    
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    November 11, 2016 1:32pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Oh bullshit Stephie, you didn’t anticipate this result. You were openly mocking those who did. What a liar.
    And a loser- hahahahahahahahahaha
    
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    November 11, 2016 2:02pm
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      Yep, just like the lead up to Brexit all the cosmopolitan bobos (bourgeois bohemians) snarking about “loser white trash, you are irrelevant, we are going to make you extinct!”.
      
      You notice stephieGoy disappeared for a long time after the election results?
      
      Thats because he was getting blind drunk, screaming into his pillow and toying with the idea of washing down his Xanax prescription with a bottle of bourbon.
      
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      November 11, 2016 2:35pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “You learn to take these kinds of things on the chin”
    
    Yes, you Progressive/Feminists are experts at losing.
    
    You’ll be taking a lot more on the chin yet, believe me.
    
    None of your Killary comrades are taking it on the chin are they, stephieBoy?
    
    Balling their eyes out, hysterical shrieking, like little girls with a grazed knee, LOL.
    
    Thats what happens when you let females dominate your politics.
    
    Lots of chimping out by Urban Zulus too.
    
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    November 11, 2016 2:28pm
  - Inandout
    
    Sorry mate, you can’t get off that easily. You abused, belittled and denigrated those who disagreed with your Clinton views. At times you were barely sane, when your venom was plainly displayed. Those of your cult are easily aroused to anger, but today you show your schizophrenic side.
    
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    November 11, 2016 3:01pm
  - tom hunter
    
    … unlike maybe you, and other Trumpists don’t make it central to living and running my life.
    – stephieboy
    
    Wait! WHAT?
    
    14,900 comments in about four years says otherwise. You have no life aside from Kiwiblog and walking around St Lukes mall in your bathrobe and fluffy slippers, occasionally yelling “Racist” at bemused white people before to turning to follow nubile young Muslim girls whilst tugging at the front of your PJ’s.
    
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    November 11, 2016 5:57pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Harden up shithead. You were wrong, end of story, now fuck off instead of making excuses for your endless Trump attacks
    
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    November 11, 2016 7:34pm
- sam green
  
  ‘Cept its not democracy is it? Not until America reforms its electoral system.
  
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  November 11, 2016 2:28pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Yes, the illegal beaners MUST be deported to stop Dems using them to commit voting fraud.
    
    Most of the “legal” ones need to be returned ASP also, to shut down decades of vote farming by Dems.
    
    Remember demographics are destiny, and Progressives are waging a race war against whites.
    
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    November 11, 2016 2:39pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘ Wah Wah, we didn’t win so we want the rules changed, Wah Wah Wah’
    
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    November 11, 2016 2:39pm
    - sam green
      
      Actually red – I don’t really care – if anything I’m pleased Clinton lost – she’s evil in my book. Trump’s a chump but he at least lanced the boil that is the USA’s pretend democracy.
      
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      November 11, 2016 8:49pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    You do realise the USA is a union of states which vote by thier popular vote for the President, don’t you? If you are suggesting a union-wide popular vote, heh, OK, good luck with that. There’d be a run on pitchfolks in the South.
    
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    November 11, 2016 4:00pm
Manolo

The milk of human kindness flows from the Left:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/09/twitter-erupts-with-calls-for-donald-trump-to-be-assassinated/

Twitter is exploding with people calling for president-elect Donald Trump to be assassinated.
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November 11, 2016 12:37pm
- Gabby
  
  There’s always the 2nd Amendment. I don’t know.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:49pm
Manolo

Pocahontas’ cry:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/democrat-warren-says-will-fight-trump-on-us-financial-rules-race-issues.html

U.S. Democrats’ liberal firebrand, Senator Elizabeth Warren, threw down the gauntlet to President-elect Donald Trump on Thursday, telling labor union members there are financial and social issues where her party will fight him and continuing to blast the Republican.
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November 11, 2016 12:47pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Pocahontas’ Last Stand.
  
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  November 11, 2016 12:52pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Pocahontas is on the warpath
  
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  November 11, 2016 1:04pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

#ShitThatDidntHappen

Women in hijabs on 2 campuses say they were attacked by men invoking Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/
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November 11, 2016 12:54pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

I’m enjoying re visiting all the anti white snarking little bitches postings pre election:

Tim (((Wise))) –
Poor white dude bros: beaten by black man, about 2b beaten by woman. But they still have Pepe & Anime avatars! Sux 2 peak in high school

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You lose overseas Israeli.
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November 11, 2016 12:57pm
Captain Mainwaring

I’ve just lost any enthusiasm I might have had for Chloe Swarbrick.
The silly girl has hooked up with the bloody Greens.
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November 11, 2016 1:25pm
- rangitoto
  
  She should go and get a job, or start a business and come back to politics in ten or fifteen years
  
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  November 11, 2016 1:31pm
- stigie
  
  Can’t believe that Captain, she doesn’t seem smelly and unwashed..?
  
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  November 11, 2016 1:34pm
- Manolo
  
  I thought a moustache was mandatory.
  
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  November 11, 2016 1:47pm
- sam green
  
  How mature of you all. Ad hominum attacks? No – not us. Only the left do that.
  
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  November 11, 2016 2:05pm
- sam green
  
  What’s your fucking point – Batman smells? Good grief. What are you people? 12?
  
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  November 11, 2016 2:11pm
  - stigie
    
    Have you been up real close to Batman Sam..?
    
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    November 11, 2016 2:28pm
    - sam green
      
      Actually no Stigie – he’s not my type. But if he was – I’d speak candidly to him about his body odour and perhaps support him to learn new personal grooming skills.
      
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      November 11, 2016 2:50pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Sam:
        
        Actually no Stigie – he’s not my type.
        
        Ok we’ll take Batman off the list. Are you still chasing D4J?
        
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        November 11, 2016 2:56pm
      - stigie
        
        If memory serves Nostra, i do remember Sam commenting that Dad was a real sweetie..?
        
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        November 11, 2016 3:13pm
      - sam green
        
        Yeah. You got me. Never mind Batman – he smells of fish.
        
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        November 11, 2016 8:55pm
  - starboard
    
    Go away then sam..you constantly whine like a little bitch.
    
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    November 11, 2016 2:45pm
    - sam green
      
      ….. or 11 in your case starboard ….
      
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      November 11, 2016 2:51pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Chloe said, “After considering several offers she accepted the 0ffer from the Greens. She felt the democratic process of being selected was important.”
  
  Young, naive and green…
  
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  November 11, 2016 4:56pm
  - stigie
    
    When you are young and Green you think you are the shizzle waikatogirl and then you become naive and fucking mad to go with it..?
    
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    November 11, 2016 6:00pm
- Gabby
  
  She’ll be devastated to hear it, crusty jocks.
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:47pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Trumps Immigration Policy is looking AWESOME:

i) Build a Wall on the Southern Border;

ii) End Catch-and-Release;

iii) Zero Tolerance for Criminal Aliens;

iv) Block Funding for Sanctuary Cities;

v) Cancel Unconstitutional Executive Orders & Enforce All Immigration Laws;

vi) Suspend the Issuance of Visas to Any Place Where Adequate Screening Cannot Occur;

vii) Ensure that Other Countries Take Their People Back When We Order Them Deported;

viii) Finally Complete the Biometric Entry-Exit Visa Tracking System;

ix) Turn Off the Jobs and Benefits Magnet

Just needs to mass deport millions of them as well, so they can’t screw with US elections.
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November 11, 2016 2:20pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

We also need to start sending muslims back, block their entry to NZ.

3rd Worlders generally are liars – they lie for economic gain in a world where the losers get to live a short brutal existence in crime infested slums, its a normal part of their culture like corruption, as natural as the air they breath.

Then they get into NZ and the West and starting milking the system aided and abetted by gullible liberals who are terrified of being called “racist”.

“Police: Lafayette student lied about being robbed of wallet, hijab by Trump supporters”

http://wgno.com/2016/11/10/police-lafayette-student-lied-about-being-robbed-of-wallet-hijab-by-trump-supporters/
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November 11, 2016 2:23pm
Manolo

A historic meeting:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-10-19-03-17

President-elect Donald Trump took a triumphant tour of the nation’s capital Thursday, holding a cordial White House meeting with President Barack Obama, sketching out priorities with Republican congressional leaders and taking in the majestic view from where he’ll be sworn in to office.
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November 11, 2016 2:24pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  that would be the same kind of cordial they used for the Jonestown massacre then?
  
  They fucking hate each other. Why even pretend?
  
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  November 12, 2016 2:31am
thedavincimode

and taking in the majestic view from where he’ll be sworn in to office.

More likely checking the foundations for the new penthouse level he’ll be plonking on top of the oval office Manolo.
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November 11, 2016 2:44pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Rumors are Trump has employed the interior designer who kitted out the Play Boy mansion.
  
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  November 11, 2016 2:49pm
- Manolo
  
  A big disappointment for the philanderer Bill Clinton, who had set his eyes on a lovely spot ideal for afternoon “exercises”. Jeepers.
  
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  November 11, 2016 2:58pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Anti trump “protests” are fake.

They are being bused in.

I bet the fuel card account belongs to (((Soros))).
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November 11, 2016 2:47pm
- sam green
  
  Oh what a fibber you are….. how we laughed …ha ha ….ha ha ….
  
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  November 11, 2016 2:54pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    No, its your little lying muslim comrades who make fake accusations of being attacked by whites and you play a long because you are so desperate to signal you are “Super Not Racist!”.
    
    I look forward to lots more sweet Mohammedan tears as Trump exits their white hating miserable scheming butts back to their Islamic hell holes.
    
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    November 11, 2016 6:56pm
    - sam green
      
      Ha ha….. ha ha….. what a card you are sweetheart. “No you!”
      
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      November 11, 2016 8:57pm
waikatogirl

Just received an email from my Kiwisaver provider with a general warning not to overreact about Trump winning the presidency!

A bit unnecessary in this household, but I guess some would need to be settled, sure that the financial world is not coming crashing down in response to Trump winning the election…
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November 11, 2016 3:05pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Its going to come crashing down sooner or later. Its just a matter of time…
  
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  November 11, 2016 7:00pm
Fletch

R.I.P Leonard Cohen.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/86373780/singersongwriter-leonard-cohen-has-died-age-82
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November 11, 2016 3:08pm
- fernglas
  
  Death of a ladies’ man. Never liked him in the 60’s and 70’s, but his later stuff had something special.
  
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  November 11, 2016 3:44pm
- Inandout
  
  Paul Holmes reminded me of Cohen, something about the facial features.
  
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  November 11, 2016 5:37pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Summarised findings from the 44-year-long Dunedin study on human development.

Influencing factors:
self-control
Marijuana Use
Fat genes
https://theconversation.com/self-control-the-harms-of-pot-and-fat-genes-how-the-44-year-old-dunedin-study-keeps-on-giving-63119
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November 11, 2016 4:07pm
- Jack5
  
  This bit was interesting, Maggy:
  
  They found IQ decline was highest among those who started using cannabis during adolescence and among the most persistent (daily) users.
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:41pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Huge non-surprise there. All the heavy 40+ year old users I’ve known are so drug-fucked and forgetful they are barely employable.
    
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    November 12, 2016 2:41am
Happychappy

I think Labour leader Andrew Little is setting up an excuse for himself if he gets washed in the next Election as to much authority has been given to the author of Chinese sounding names and Twitter troll Phil Twyford,after losing the battle in these two issues the Party’s Election Chairman and housing spokesman has returned to tell and make a few story’s on Nationals lack of urgency in implementing their housing policy, this coming from someone that abuse’s the media because they did not tell the lies that the Labour Election Chairman asked them to.You could bet your bottom dollar that Little will throw this idiot under the bus if Labour lose the next Election
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November 11, 2016 5:06pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “if?” Don’t you mean “when?”
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:54pm
sooty

Labour party candidate beats up National party candididates husband. Breaking news,!
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November 11, 2016 5:12pm
- Happychappy
  
  That’s not anything strange coming from Labour it’s in their DNA probably had lessons from trev
  
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  November 11, 2016 6:39pm
Manolo

Wiping out Obama’s legacy:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article114023183.html

President-elect Donald Trump was surprisingly gracious as he met President Barack Obama in the Oval Office on Thursday but make no mistake: He is already working to erase major parts of Obama’s legacy from the history books.
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November 11, 2016 5:24pm
Ross12

These journalisst just don’t get it do they.

Headline in the Telegraph (UK)
“Trump’s snub to May is a huge embarrassment. She must spare no effort to save the Special Relationship”

Apparently Trump spoke with 10 other heads of state before he spoke to Theresa May. Did it occur to this idiot journalist that May could have rung Trump and not the other way around ?

Anyway Trump has invited May to come asap.
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November 11, 2016 5:35pm
- Brigitte
  
  Actually he rang nine others first. Which means, rather appropriately, Teresa May was Number 10!
  
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  November 11, 2016 9:45pm
Stars And Stripes

Dustin La Mont found not guilty of Mt Albert murder
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11746558.

Reckon this guy was bloody lucky to get off this charge as I reckon he is a bit of a psycho in reality.
However I’m not going to shed any tears or feel bad about his acquittal as he only killed some gang dude so one less piece of rubbish to worry about.
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November 11, 2016 7:45pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Stars and Stripes:
  
  … I’m not going to shed any tears or feel bad …
  
  Did you shed tears and feel bad when you read this story?
  
  Mongrel Mob member Ronald Rigby had methamphetamine in his blood and was trying to prevent another car overtaking when he drove himself and three other gang members off a 125-metre cliff near Wairoa, a coroner has found.
  
  He was driving a Honda Inspire – such a sad end to a lovely car…
  
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  November 11, 2016 8:36pm
EAD

To cap off a glorious week- Leonard Cohen has passed away!

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2015/10/cohens-new-world-order.html?m=0
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November 11, 2016 9:01pm
nasska

And in the good news for today, the staffer who informed Hillary that she had lost the election is expected to make a full recovery.
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November 11, 2016 9:15pm
BeeSting

What is really bothering people about
the US Election is

“Whites were allowed to Vote”

Obama needs to go to Liberia the Utopia
set up by freed slaves and try his policies there

Liberia was the model that him an Hillary were using for Future America

thing is he will probably not get a passport because he is
“half white”?
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November 12, 2016 12:28am
BeeSting

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1017318.shtml

“We must build a logistics force in which everything exists for fighting a war. It must always remain true to the fundamental purpose of helping win a war,” Xi said.

Xi calls for strong, modern military logistics
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November 12, 2016 12:39am
BeeSting

Oh, say, can you see,
By the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed
At the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars,
Through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched,
Were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets’ red glare,
The bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night
That our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave
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