General Debate 29 October 2016

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Viking2

Suns up. Get out of bed you lazy buggers.

Trumps cancels the election.
Max Key is joining up with the Kardashians.

Father John very proud.
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October 29, 2016 8:02am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Nothing good ever happens before 10am. Mornings are to be suffered through, not celebrated.
  
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  October 29, 2016 5:09pm
All_on_Red

London imam who tried to sue BBC for calling him an extremist has case dismissed at High Court because…..he IS an extremist!
Lol
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-imam-sued-bbc-extremist-claims-case-dismissed-shakeel-begg-high-court-jihad-terrorism-a7384811.html
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October 29, 2016 8:02am
- kowtow
  
  Shock , horror , the BBC called a Muslim an extremist?
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:24am
  - G152
    
    Getting bad when even the MSM has to admit a fact that every-one else has been banging on about …
    
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    October 29, 2016 8:31am
    - stephieboy
      
      G152, but , but I thought MSM never reported these kinds of things ?
      
      Only sleaze tabloids ?
      
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      October 29, 2016 10:21am
      - lilman
        
        HERES DONALD………………Boom !!!!!!
        
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        October 29, 2016 2:35pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Is SBW one of his mates as well? Don’t tell BMW that their new brand ambassador hangs out with hate preachers
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:17am
duggledog

Brexit’ll never happen
Key’s not a politician
The NZ flag will change
Trump will lose
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October 29, 2016 8:03am
- Viking2
  
  50% wrong so far.
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:09am
duggledog

actually, this guy John Darroch from ‘Farm Watch’ I saw on TV. What a f***ing weirdy beardy clown, probably met some vegan chick at Uni he wants to bone. All I can say to this prune is, mate, don’t ever set foot inside a provincial country pub.

See if you’re squeamish or a girly man, don’t ever set foot on a working dairy farm. Farming is rough and tough and bloody and messy. Colin Meads and Richard Loe could tell Darroch all about it.

Look sometimes you’ve got to shoot dogs if they worry sheep. Sometimes you have cut a pig’s throat. Sometimes you have to get the vet to cut a calf in half – inside the cow, to save the cow’s life. Seen it happen.

Regarding that ‘harrowing footage’ what a joke. Sometimes you have to drag young calves if they can’t stand, ever tried to lift a Friesan bobby calf in gumboots in the pissing rain in a muddy field? Break your bloody back.

‘Farm Watch’ should be roundly lampooned for being totally ignorant, and unrealistic. Farmers need to stand shoulder to shoulder and laugh at these wankers publicly instead of making conciliatory, apologetic noises.

Because the vast majority of farmers take great care of their animals because their welfare is their livelihood.

And don’t ever forget, farmers’ livelihoods paid for Darroch’s hospital visits, schooling and even the road he drives on
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October 29, 2016 8:06am
- Paulus
  
  But the media love it.
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:28am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Too many soft cock whingers running to the Media – legends in their own lunchtime
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:34am
  - lilman
    
    Sorry hit wrong button,I agree with you.
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:37pm
- mikenmild
  
  If it is all so perfectly normal, then it makes me wonder why MPI and the SPCA are investigating…
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:38am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Soz, hit report not reply… sausage fingers.
    
    MM they have to investigate, politically but also morally (is that the right word in this case, not sure). They need to be taking it seriously and they need to seem to be taking it seriously, investigation doesn’t mean charges or convictions though.
    
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    October 29, 2016 10:12am
- Jack5
  
  With video cameras and remote gear becoming ever cheaper, ever more powerful, dairy farmers are doomed to live under ever closer watch, just like policemen making arrests, and the rest of us nearly everywhere(damn those speed snoops).
  
  Duggledog posts:
  
  …don’t ever forget, farmers’ livelihoods paid for Darroch’s hospital visits, schooling and even the road he drives on …
  
  Yes, dairy farmers provide the largest slice of our overseas earnings after tourism, but overseas markets, too, are heavily populated by animal lovers or bleeding hearts (take your pick).
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:20am
  - Viking2
    
    Most of whom think the milk comes in cardboard containers.
    
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    October 29, 2016 9:43am
    - holysheet
      
      And they would be right. Whats you point?
      
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      October 29, 2016 11:26am
      - Viking2
        
        No idea 2what a fucking cow is. engage your brain just occasionally.
        
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        October 29, 2016 4:55pm
  - GoVege
    
    Yeah, but dairy farmers are wrecking our #1 earner (tourism) by
    1) ruining our waterways
    2) offending civilized people’s ideas of how other species should be treated.
    
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    October 29, 2016 1:36pm
    - lilman
      
      I love farmers,we are a bunch of wealth providers to the country and food producers to the world ,if you know better than them ,show them for a life time,not a two minute typing.
      
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      October 29, 2016 2:39pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      1/ Bullshit. Rural water quality has been improving for decades – it used to be worse, but we weren’t aware of it until testing became widespread and simple.
      
      2/ We can’t control loopy urbanites bizarre cults, fetishes and irrational projection of human motivations onto animals. Domestic food animals prefer to spend basically all their time warm and dry indoors at a food trough if they have the choice. Domestic animals are most productive when not stressed – so successful farms work to provide non-stressing conditions and to breed animals that aren’t stressed in prevalent conditions. And consider that in wild all animals die horrible grisly deaths being torn apart by predators or scavengers. To protect these silly snowflakes we should perhaps ban them from entering farming areas.
      
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      October 29, 2016 5:26pm
      - GoVege
        
        1) that’s not what it says on the news.
        2) most farmers in this country I’m sure are nice, decent people and treat their animals well. BUT the dairy cow has a strong maternal bond and like any mammal, will suffer to have its infant taken off her.
        And no infant mammals should be parted from their mums and taken to be slaughtered.
        This is not “projecting” our own feelings.
        We are mammals too!
        
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        October 29, 2016 8:41pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Don’t forget the emotional damage we are doing to the cow and calf through separation. Evil at work there!
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:13am
  - GoVege
    
    How would you feel if someone grabbed your 3 day old baby from you and dragged it off, never to see it again?
    
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    October 29, 2016 1:17pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      When a cow writes a thesis on it, I will give you my opinion.
      
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      October 29, 2016 2:08pm
      - GoVege
        
        Not so long ago our forebears couldn’t read or write.
        And further back they only communicated in grunts, much like cows.
        Aren’t we lucky there was no “superior” mammalian species to herd our ancestors together and torture and abuse them?
        Well actually there was a deluded lot about 70 years ago who nearly took over the world.
        Think we might have learnt a bit from that about how to treat other animals.
        
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        October 29, 2016 2:32pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Not sure whether they would care much in the state house area of town, that’s if they have even realised the baby is missing yet.
      
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      October 29, 2016 2:48pm
    - lilman
      
      Its a cow ,for god sake ,are you for real,how do you get out of bed in the morning.
      
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      October 29, 2016 3:00pm
      - GoVege
        
        With difficulty, when I think about what thousands of Bobby calves and their mums have to go through….
        
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        October 29, 2016 8:20pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Oh fuck off you nutter! how stupid are you?
      
      I mean FFS… I can’t handle idiots who sprout this sort of shit. It’s a fucking cow!
      
      Get a grip on reality !!
      
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      October 29, 2016 3:31pm
      - Jack5
        
        “It’s a fucking cow!” – Awww C-mon in 3.31 post.
        
        Really? Is this how they pass the evenings in Taranaki?
        
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        October 29, 2016 5:49pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Its all dependent on your height Jack
        
        Dwarfs or kneelers = Sheep
        Short blokes or tall kneelers = Goats
        Avg Height blokes = Deer or Jersey cow
        Tall Blokes = X-Breed
        Locks and Bball players = Fresian
        
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        October 29, 2016 8:00pm
      - GoVege
        
        And you’re a fucking speciesist human!
        Read a book for the first time in your life and you might begin to understand.
        
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        October 29, 2016 8:45pm
      - GoVege
        
        It probably is too, Jack5.
        I read in Encyclopedia Brittanica that half of all boys raised on farms have had sex with farm animals.
        Hopefully they don’t feel the need to kill them afterwards like Muslims do because their partner is “tainted”.
        (Perhaps why Boris Johnson accused Erdogan of not thanking the goat who assisted him in spreading his wild oats.)
        
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        October 29, 2016 8:59pm
- Flash
  
  Farmers are too busy looking after their animals to worry about people like this. They are slow to anger but if I were Darroch I wouldn’t provoke them too much.
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:22am
- GoVege
  
  If you know all about farming, dd, can you tell us why farmers can’t just feed their dairy cows something to make them miscarry?
  Then FarmWatch won’t need to secretly film farm workers dragging 3 day old calves around and chucking them in trucks for their “final destination”.
  
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  October 29, 2016 12:54pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Yes a revolting substance like tofu should do the trick as eating that would make anyone want to give up on life.
    
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    October 29, 2016 1:26pm
    - GoVege
      
      Yes it’s pretty revolting whenever I’ve tried it but the Asians know how to cook it beautifully.
      
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      October 29, 2016 1:50pm
  - lilman
    
    Calf appeared to be just born,if thats the case I challenge you to pick it up,try it,its bloody near impossible without dropping it.
    Also have you ever seen a calf born?
    Sometimes they drop from about 1 mtr onto the ground,how do they survive when they are less than 1 second old?
    Is the Cow abusive?
    
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    October 29, 2016 3:03pm
    - GoVege
      
      I’m sure a newborn calf is difficult to pick up.
      I don’t think falling onto grass would do much harm.
      In any case, all this could be avoided if the mother cows were given something to miscarry fairly early in pregnancy.
      No babies off to the works at 3 days old, needing to be dragged there.
      No mum cows fighting to get their newly bonded babies back.
      No suffering and no aggravation from city slickers!
      
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      October 29, 2016 8:28pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        If a cow aborts, then there’s no guarantee she will start lactating … and even if she does, she is unlikely to be a good producer without an oxytocin shot.
        
        And that’s what dairy farmers want…. white gold.
        
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        October 29, 2016 9:02pm
      - GoVege
        
        Thanks for that Maggie.
        I’m sure they could perfect the art of getting cows into lactation assisted with a few oxytocin shots.
        I’ve read about human mums who have never even been pregnant managing to produce milk for an adopted baby.
        Anything’s better than ripping a baby calf from its mum.
        
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        October 29, 2016 9:34pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Wow!! What a clueless shite you are.
    
    Animal Welfare would be the answer why it doesn’t happen! You know, the shit you are spouting on about!
    
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    October 29, 2016 3:45pm
    - GoVege
      
      Please explain what you are talking about, Awww C-Mon.
      Expletive-free this time if you can manage it.
      
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      October 29, 2016 8:31pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        If God didn’t want us to eat animals then why did he make them out of food?
        
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        October 29, 2016 10:00pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Mmmm Bacon
        
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        October 29, 2016 10:02pm
      - GoVege
        
        Other mammals are all made out of the same stuff as us, ABS.
        When you’re in the butchery next time and choosing a chop or steak, just remember that piece of meat looks exactly like your own innards.
        Bon Appétit.
        
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        October 29, 2016 10:48pm
      - GoVege
        
        All on Red: Bacon is about the worst meat you can eat for your health.
        My uncle used to eat bacon and eggs for breakfast every morning until he couldn’t eat at all…he died shortly after of bowel cancer.
        
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        October 29, 2016 10:55pm
      - GoVege
        
        Got the sad news a few days ago another rellie has bowel cancer.
        Will let all you meat-eaters know how the op goes….
        
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        October 29, 2016 10:57pm
    - GoVege
      
      Hope you’re not a dairy farmer, AC.
      Hate to think of 3 day old bovine babies and their mums at your mercy.
      Have you ever been had up?
      
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      October 30, 2016 2:16pm
- KevinH
  
  In the small rural town I grew up in,us town kids worked on farms during the holidays for pocket money. I was 12 when I got passed the knife for the first time, and even though I had seen it done many times I still struggled.
  My dad drove trucks at the local dairy co and we would help pick up Bobby calves in spring and my dad was adamant that we did’nt treat them rough,My brother and I would lift them up together onto the back of the truck and dad would stow them in the crates. It was hard physical work but we were taught to treat animals with care and respect.
  In our town we had an expert slaughterman who would help the townies do their Christmas lambs. He was a huge man, 6’6″ and ex army and was respected for producing the most tender meat. The reason he was good was because he was quick and cunning, he would never let the animals fret and would use the knife in the blink of an eye. He was expert with a 5lb hammer and would dispatch boars and bulls with one blow then finish with the knife. He loved his dog’s and if they were any trouble he would take care of them himself or anyone else’s if the need arose.
  He also stressed to us young boys to treat animals with respect because they were our livelihood and food on the table. They always tasted better when you did it right was his saying.
  One year we helped with a hangi for the tangi of a local farmer gored to death by a bull.Because he was an RSA man the locals turned out to help.While the hangi cooked the menfolk talked about how he was a rough bugger with his stock and that no one brought anything off him because of it. The slaughterman said he had had a set to with him over some sheep that he was asked to do for him because they were in such bad knick that they were only good for dog tucker. He refused to do them and after a row he had sorted him out.
  Those were the days when men were men and any strange roosters were looked at sideways.
  The moral of this true story is that farmers do treat their animals well, there may be some rogues out there but as a rule they get noticed by the stockies and people talk and those rough buggers in the end get there just deserts.
  
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  October 29, 2016 1:11pm
  - GoVege
    
    Sounds like a brutal upbringing but good to hear one sadist got his just desserts.
    (And one of the abused animals got to exact it.)
    
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    October 29, 2016 1:46pm
  - GoVege
    
    “Men were men” huh?
    That reminds me…two of the most violent men I know used to work as freezing workers.
    One forced his wife to hold a pig while he stabbed it to death, just so she knew what could happen to her.
    
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    October 29, 2016 11:04pm
  - GoVege
    
    Pass a knife to a 12 year old?
    Sounds like child abuse.
    
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    October 30, 2016 2:17pm
- GoVege
  
  No dd, tourism did.
  But dairying is killing it.
  
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  October 29, 2016 1:54pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    No, fuckers like you are…
    
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    October 29, 2016 3:34pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    deluded
    
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    October 29, 2016 5:29pm
Huevon

London cabbie to singer Lily Allen: Find an immigrant to drive you, you stupid tart

More of this, please.
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October 29, 2016 8:17am
- Jack5
  
  Yes, Huevon, and if I was an Auckland cabbie I would do the same to those who pressured John Key to lift the NZ refugee intake.
  
  “Get an immigrant to drive you” would be the response to radio announcer Rachel Smalley (“NZ women are lardo’s), the Great Emoter , John Campbell, and the rest of the “open-the-gates” Leftists and Greens, plus their suposedly centre-right sympathisers such as one who occasionally posts here.
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:31am
Paulus

See that Comey, the discredited head of the FBI has been (persuaded) forced by Congress to open the Clinton emails scandal again after saying before – “nothing here move on”.
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October 29, 2016 8:27am
- SPC
  
  The only way he could be forced by Congress is if they threatened to impeach him for obstruction of justice if he did not place Clinton under a new investigation before the election.
  
  1. A means for POTUS Trump to have her convicted (via a FBI investigation begun before he became President).
  2. A lead in to impeaching Clinton if she wins.
  
  Meaning they intend to impeach her if she wins.
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:22am
  - Ed Snack
    
    SPC, that I doubt unless (like Nixon) there’s such good and obvious evidence that she would be convicted in the Senate. Recommending impeachment that will fail is not a winning move, and the Republicans might or might not hold the Senate at this election, but they certainly could not expect to get the 2/3rds vote needed to impeach without really, really, compelling evidence. Most of the Democratic Senators would not vote to impeach Clinton if she was caught standing over a dead body with a smoking revolver in her hand, so the evidence has to be water tight and compelling.
    
    This could be a feint, the FBI could declare tomorrow or a day or two later that there’s nothing to require further action, so it’s a sterilising action against further evidence arising from, say, Wikileaks. Or it could be genuine, sadly hard to tell.
    
    BTW, I know that Nixon resigned rather than be impeached, but he did so as he knew that enough Republicans would vote to impeach.
    
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    October 29, 2016 3:26pm
Simon

Remember Clinton is innocent until proven guilty.
Bill the rapist made this valid point just now.

Hillary has helped Rapey Bill out of many tight corners we can all give Crooked Hillary the benefit of the doubt for now.

Stronger together with the Clintons.
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October 29, 2016 8:31am
- kowtow
  
  The Clintons , richer together.
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    Trump’s alt-right and redneck associates are the only ones allowed to be rich ?
    
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    October 29, 2016 10:24am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Don’t be stupid, the rich love Hillary, she’s the one with policies guaranteed to keep them rich and also stop too many others becoming rich to get in their way. The majority of her campaign finance, and it’s hundreds of millions, comes from a very small (less than 100) group of ultra-rich people. She’s the candidate for the 0.01%, while at the same time trying very hard to join them.
      
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      October 29, 2016 3:31pm
DifferentPerspective

Clinton in panic mode

Lol – criminals hide when they authorities are after them!
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October 29, 2016 8:33am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Isn’t Karma a wonderful thing?
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:39am
- Huevon
  
  It’s just that nasty bout of pneumonia again.
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:50am
- Paulus
  
  Question
  Can a President Elect be indicted for criminal conspiracy ? – or a President?
  Or will Obama pardon her – as he may well be exposed to this conspiracy.
  Probably the latter.
  Nasty Republicans !
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:54am
Don the Kiwi

Pat Condell nails it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=469&v=sHCul_DIM_4
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October 29, 2016 8:50am
Zed

The cultural enrichment
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MypHVhYmG4I

Meanwhile, closers to home
In Australia Islam is a race: https://youtu.be/241-weWPiUU
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October 29, 2016 8:55am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Sorry Z; i was confused and thought that you were a labour MP (maybe for the next 12 months) and ticked you down in a reflex reaction.
  
  Have you considered a different tag by chance?
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:14am
  - Zed
    
    No worries mate…I actually did it to others several times…these things are so close to each other on a smart phone screen.
    
    Different tag…hmmm. Got anything in mind?
    
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    October 29, 2016 9:28am
DifferentPerspective

Muslims kill off Twitter

So another nail in the coffin of jihadist, censoring, pro-Islamic colonialism – Twitter is dying. Ever since the House of Saud bought a majority share in Twitter their share price has tanked, 300 employees are to be laid off and now they have a problem.

A real problem!

A free speech alternative in Gab.

Everything those muslims touch blows up in their faces!

If you are not in to Gab – you are not in to free speech Kiwibloggers!
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October 29, 2016 8:55am
- kowtow
  
  “Everything those muslims touch blows up in their faces!”
  
  Blows up in our faces.
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:01am
- nasska
  
  …..”If you are not in to Gab – you are not in to free speech”…..
  
  Someone had better warn Baity. He’s been tweeting his little heart out for a couple of years. 🙂
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:23am
- stephieboy
  
  Actually, it’s current losses are quite modest compared to past form and even before the Muslim s took over .
  
  The present situation stems from greater competition from Instagram and Snapchat ,
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/10/27/twitter-to-cut-workforce-by-9pc-as-it-reports-more-heavy-losses/
  
  What even a mild attack of Islamaphobioc paranoia will do to you to get in the way of facts.
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:35am
Don the Kiwi

Breaking: FBI re-opens investigation into Clinton e-mails –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSN9P3YxKac
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October 29, 2016 8:57am
Steve (North Shore)

With so much negativity on social media due to the election I thought I’d show a positive post.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lwgk4x39wpozu9b/positive%20post.jpg?dl=0
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October 29, 2016 8:58am
- mikenmild
  
  I got a charge out of that one.
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:01am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Shocking surge Mike
    
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    October 29, 2016 9:18am
Captain Mainwaring

Minding my own business yesterday when there’s a knock on the door.
Security guy on contract to Corrections. Looking for someone who’s cut off their ankle bracelet and had my address in his screen.
Christ, Corrections don’t even know where their ankle bracelets are.
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October 29, 2016 9:03am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Maybe it has not been cut off and the perp is in the spare bedroom (the one not being used to home a homeless person)
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:17am
- kowtow
  
  Blame parliament. One side wants to run prisons cheaper while the other side loves crims.
  Either way the law abiding public loses out with crims running free.
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:19am
- Gabby
  
  happychappy will have you evicted for harbouring an escapee. Bad choices, live with it. Booya.
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:29am
  - Happychappy
    
    Change hands Gabby it might allow some air to reach the brain
    
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    October 29, 2016 11:47am
Happychappy

Hillary is going to have make sure the sex charges against Trump are proved because the door has been opened to wipe her and Bill from USA Politics for ever.Won’t be a happy ending for her or Obama if this gets to court
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October 29, 2016 9:06am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  She must be forced to take an Oath or Affirmation this time – lying is not now an option
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:21am
mikenmild

Kiwi academic trolls scam science congress with fake paper written by autocomplete function:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/22/nonsense-paper-written-by-ios-autocomplete-accepted-for-conference
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October 29, 2016 9:28am
- Jack5
  
  Milky, great hoax.
  
  You realise, of course, that the Stephie troll team of Stephiestanis use a software generator and (very) artificial intelligence to manufacture their flow of posts to Kiwiblog?
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:36am
  - mikenmild
    
    I did not know that. I always assumed you were a bot, though. Got any way to prove you are human?
    
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    October 29, 2016 9:38am
    - Jack5
      
      Yes I can prove it – but sorry, Milky, the test works only when there’s a rational human being on the other end asking the questions.
      
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      October 29, 2016 12:18pm
      - sam green
        
        Yes, but are you entire?
        
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        October 29, 2016 5:28pm
      - Jack5
        
        Re Sam Green at 5.28: yes, I’m entirely sane.
        
        You can dream about that. You mustn’t lose hope. They’re bringing out new psychiatric drugs all the time.
        
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        October 29, 2016 5:40pm
      - mikenmild
        
        But are you ‘entire’, was the question, I think.
        
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        October 29, 2016 5:44pm
      - Jack5
        
        Milky (5.44), and Sam Green (5.28) …
        
        I hope you don’t mean ….
        
        Hell! Are you two old horses trying to solicit a picture of my private parts?
        
        Don’t worry about being kicked off Kiwiblog, you can go into the slammer for making such lewd requests.
        
        So you’ll just have to take my word for it: entire I am – physically, emotionally, rationally.
        
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        October 29, 2016 5:52pm
Hugh Pavletich

HONG KONG PARKING SPACE SELLS FOR 550,000 EURO – FINANCIAL TIMES / IRISH TIMES

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/hong-kong-parking-space-sells-for-550-000-1.2847385

… extracts …

… The parking space at 55 Conduit Road, in the exclusive Mid-Levels district high above Hong Kong’s financial centre, was sold for HK$4.8 million €566,000 this week, according to filings with the Land Registry. …

… Hong Kong has the world’s least affordable housing, with the median housing price 19 times the median annual pre-tax household income, as measured by Demographia, a US consultancy.

Parking lots are also at a premium, with 1,574 spaces changing hands in the third quarter this year at an average price of HK$1.3 million, according to Centaline.

– (Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2016) …

… IN CONTRAST … SINGAPORE …

Don’t count on making big bucks from your home , Opinion News & Top Stories – The Straits Times

http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/dont-count-on-making-big-bucks-from-your-home

As social values change, emphasis is now placed on property as housing rather than as speculative assets

Should cooling measures be eased, now that property prices are sliding further?

That question has cropped up again.

October data showed that private home prices fell 1.5 per cent in the third quarter from the second – the steepest such fall in seven years. That was also the 12th consecutive quarter of decline. In all, private home prices were 10.8 per cent lower, compared to the third quarter of 2013.

But Singapore’s property prices remain high when compared to many major cities. The 2016 survey of housing affordability by Demographia puts affordability here at a median multiple price-to-income ratio of five, which is considered “seriously unaffordable”. This means median housing prices are five times the median household annual income – which means it takes five years of wages to pay for a property. A multiple of three and under is considered affordable. … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 29, 2016 9:47am
- starboard
  
  LOOK HUGH !! ITS NOT ( sorry for yelling, Hugh’s a bit deaf ) ALL DOOM AND GLOOM…..
  
  http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2016/10/frank-newman-what-property-investors.html
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:49am
Maggy Wassilieff

Don’t drink alone if you are a Russian oligarch.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37804519
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October 29, 2016 10:14am
AgentBallSack

TRUMP: Thank you.
(APPLAUSE) Thank you very much.
(APPLAUSE)
We love New Hampshire, I can tell you that.
(APPLAUSE)
I need to open with a very critical breaking news announcement.
(APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: The FBI has just sent a letter to Congress informing them that they have discovered new e-mails pertaining to the former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s investigation …
CROWD: Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!
TRUMP: And they are reopening her case into her criminal and illegal conduct that threatens the security of the United States of America.
(APPLAUSE)
Hillary Clinton’s corruption is on a scale we have never seen before. We must not let her take her criminal scheme into the Oval Office. I have great respect for the fact that the FBI and the Department of Justice are now willing to have the courage to right the horrible mistake that they made.
(APPLAUSE)
This was a grave miscarriage of justice that the American people fully understood. And it is everybody’s hope that it is about to be corrected.
(APPLAUSE)
So that is a big announcement that I heard 10 minutes ago and I guess obviously most of you folks have heard about, and in all fairness for all of the people that have suffered for doing so much less, including just recently four-star General James Cartwright, General Petraeus and many others. Perhaps finally justice will be done.
(APPLAUSE)
With that being said, the rest of my speech is going to be so boring. Should I even make the speech? We will talk about borders, right? We will talk about trade. We’ll bring back our jobs, we’ll strengthen our military and let’s get going, OK?

http://time.com/4550004/hillary-clinton-email-fbi-reopen-donald-trump-transcript/
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October 29, 2016 10:17am
Ross12

Meanwhile we have the USA AG effectively pleading the 5th. What a screwed up the place the USA has become.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-votetheignorantoutofoffice/congress_attorney_general_lynch_pleads_fifth_on_secret_iran_ransom_payments/
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October 29, 2016 10:20am
- AgentBallSack
  
  People in public office shouldn’t be allowed to plead the 5th. I think we all know that it’s an admission of guilt in one form or another,
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:27am
  - mikenmild
    
    Not really. It’s a basic right for a person to refuse to answer questions. One we should all remember when stopped at a checkpoint outside a pro-euthanasia meeting.
    
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    October 29, 2016 10:38am
    - holysheet
      
      Yeah right
      Thats a tui add if ever there was one.
      Who me?
      Nah I am guilty but you will not hear me say it.
      I have taken my pieces of silver from the corrupt Clinton foundation, to look the other way and now you want me to spill the beans?
      
      Good luck with that.
      
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      October 29, 2016 10:55am
      - stephieboy
        
        holysheet , what has the Clinton Foundation done that is either illegal or corrupt ?
        
        “Exposing the Mind-Numbing Ignorance of Clinton Foundation Conspiracies”
        
        Shall we begin here and go though them one at time ?,
        
        http://www.forwardprogressives.com/exposing-mind-numbing-ignorance-clinton-foundation-conspiracies/
        
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        October 29, 2016 11:03am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Christopher Arepa and Cru Omeka Kahui comes to mind Mike – but different huh?
      You bloody hypocrite
      
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      October 29, 2016 5:04pm
  - stephieboy
    
    It is right given to everyone ( even Trump and not only Clinton )to plead the 5th amendment which otherwise would take away the right of presumption of innocence and the Prosecution to prove criminal charges ,
    
    http://theconversation.com/our-right-to-silence-is-too-important-to-lose-9830
    
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    October 29, 2016 10:50am
Kimbo

@ tom hunter

Game 3 of the World Series begins just after 1:00pm (our time) today.

Predictions?

http://m.mlb.com/gameday/indians-vs-cubs/2016/10/28/487633?partnerId=LR_preview#game_tab=preview,game=487633,game_state=preview

A reminder that this is the first World Series game at Wrigley Park since 1945. Here’s a “famous moment in baseball” from another World Series game at the same venue…in 1932, when the Babe called his home-run shot. Presidential candidate and soon-winner Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in the crowd watching as Ruth soaked up the abuse, then FDR threw his head back laughing as the Babe circled the bases:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkEX0eb2eBo
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October 29, 2016 10:53am
- tom hunter
  
  I think they’ll win behind Kyle Hendricks and their bats against an Indians pitcher who doesn’t set the world on fire.
  
  BUT – for all the yammering about how similar Kendricks is to Hall of Famer (and former Cub), Greg Maddux, I note the fact that the latter’s post-season results never matched up to his season efforts. Perhaps my memory is fading, but for all his command and finesse over four pitches, he got tagged in a few crucial situations, both with the Cubs and the Atlanta Braves. Could the same happen to Kendricks?
  
  And annoyingly, I have various child-related things going on today that mean I’ll only get to see the latter innings – if I see it at all. Grrrrrrr!
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:01am
  - Kimbo
    
    Interesting. Yet you think Reggie Jackson is over-rated due to his statistically impressive exploits in the post-season. Performing “in the clutch” is maybe a myth for professional athletes, more – as you’ve suggested before – a statistical crap-shoot.
    
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    October 29, 2016 11:17am
    - tom hunter
      
      It’s one of the great mysteries of this sport in particular, with an emphasis on stats that exceeds even cricket.
      
      You see someone like Schwriber hitting a shade under 500 in the Series after 200 days of not seeing an ML pitch, and you ask yourself whether it’s just that aspect of probability – or whether he actually is that skillful?
      
      BTW, on the stats angle and the Cub pitcher Prior being destroyed in 2003 through excessive pitch counts: I saw a related article that talked about how the sabermetricians in the mid-2000’s were the crucial group in preventing that ever happening again to any pitcher. They analysed the hell out of pitch counts and the result today is that pitchers almost never exceed 100 in a game: they get pulled regardless. It was a sad note in the article that Prior’s pitch counts (often around 130) in Sep ’03 alone would have seen him ranked 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 for the whole of 2016. Out of 2000+ games this season, only four pitchers hit 130 – and they were probably being left in to pursue a no-hitter.
      
      I did crack up at that writer the other day asking what the hell Dusty Baker had been waiting for as he watched Prior pitch in that game- “to see smoke coming out of his arm?”
      
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      October 29, 2016 12:09pm
- SPC
  
  The profanities of the cussing Billy goat will be heard around the world today. Ffffffffin weiner.
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:53am
  - SPC
    
    The curse loading bases again and again, but still nothing sticks to Hillary.
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:55pm
- graphite
  
  G’day boys. First time I’ve been on this site for a couple of years but I spotted this and thought I’d join in.
  Something I’m watching for in this series is for Aroldis Chapman to blow a save. It’s gotta come. Cleveland definitely got the better deal with Andrew Miller when the Yankees decided to blow up their team.
  Overall, though, Chicago coming back from Cleveland with the series tied is mission accomplished for them and they’re deserved favourites.
  
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  October 29, 2016 12:59pm
EAD

Reading the MSM this morning on the American election and it’s just the usual shrill hysteria about Trump “hating” gays/women/blacks/Mexicans so on and so forth. Pretty Standard fare from the MSM – must be a day ending in y.

Of course, when there is actually talk of his policy (you know, the kind of important stuff they say they’ll do in power), then again it’s just the usual hysterical stuff all over again with all analysis trying to convince the reader that Trump “hates” x, y & z.

Well, the alt-media does report on this and Savant this morning put out a more realistic list of those who won’t be voting Trump because of his policies. It’s a humorous list that bought a smile to my morning 🙂

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2016/10/those-who-will-not-be-voting-for-trump.html?m=0

Corrupt time-serving politicians
Trump will introduce a constitutional amendment to place term limits on all members of Congress and a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.

AIPAC and its support constellation
“I will implement a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.”

Globalists
“We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism. The nation-state remains the true foundation of happiness and harmony.”

“First I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205. Second I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.”

Education debasers
Trump’s programme ‘redirects education dollars to gives parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice, ends Common Core and brings education supervision to local communities.’

Nation-wreckers
Trump’s programme will cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back.

Global Warming hucksters
“This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps, and our GW scientists are stuck in ice. I will cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.”
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October 29, 2016 11:04am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD , is it no accident that MSM Washington Post broke the latest about the emails which the MSM CNN carried as their lead news item ?
  
  The majority of the rest are mere platitudes e.g AIPAC and lobbyists .
  
  You must now realise that Trump is an avowed supporter of Israel and agrees with AIPAC
  
  http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.710188
  
  And I don’t think Trump is proposing a National Socialist agenda such as yours .
  
  Or is he ?
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:12am
- mikenmild
  
  Question:
  Is ‘Irish Savant’ an oxymoron?
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:15am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Isn’t that a tad racist ?
    
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    October 29, 2016 3:37pm
- Harriet
  
  Every us voter is outraged in some way at their own and their countries plight, yet Hillary gives no answers to them, she just vents ‘outrage’ at Trump and his answers, the answers that most people must find appealing in some way – against her known and continuous uncertainty. He will win.
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:25am
cha

She lives to fly anther day.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-air-force-now-plans-to-keep-the-a-10-warthog-flying-1788309985
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October 29, 2016 11:05am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  That’s good news. I saw these aircraft in an airshow when I was in Canada in 1998. An amazing plane with amazing capabilities, even though it is slow..
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:10am
Don the Kiwi

This just in from my mate, Don McClarey in Illinois:

“Update: Oh, this is too perfect! I have to be dreaming!

In the latest stunning revelation in today’s saga involving the FBI’s second probe, moments ago the NYT reported that the new emails uncovered in the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server were discovered after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin and her husband, Anthony Weiner.

The F.B.I. is investigating illicit text messages that Mr. Weiner sent to a 15-year-old girl in North Carolina. The bureau told Congress on Friday that it had uncovered new emails related to the Clinton case — one federal official said they numbered in the thousands — potentially reigniting an issue that has weighed on the presidential campaign and offering a lifeline to Donald J. Trump less than two weeks before the election.
Until recently Anthony Weiner was married to Hillary Clinton’s closest aide, Huma Abedin, who separated from Weiner recently after news emerged that Weiner had engaged in an online affair with an underage girl.

The F.B.I. told Congress that it had uncovered new emails related to the closed investigation into whether Mrs. Clinton or her aides had mishandled classified information, potentially reigniting an issue that has weighed on the presidential campaign and offering a lifeline to Donald J. Trump less than two weeks before the election.

. By seizing Huma Abedin’s electronics the FBI struck the mother lode. Every dirty deal that Clinton was involved in will be on them. As for Weiner, I wouldn’t be surprised if he made copies of everything he found over the years on Huma’s electronics, for potential blackmail purposes: Hillary I would like you to appoint me ambassador to France. I am sure that you would agree that is a fitting post for a man who can keep quiet about everything that you and my beloved Huma discussed through e-mails?

Trump is living proof that it is smarter to be lucky than it is lucky to be smart.”
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October 29, 2016 11:05am
- cha
  
  So the author is actually your mate Don, huh.
  
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  In the latest stunning revelation in today’s saga involving the FBI’s second probe, moments ago the NYT reported that the new emails uncovered in the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server were discovered after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin and her husband, Anthony Weiner.
  
  The F.B.I. is investigating illicit text messages that Mr. Weiner sent to a 15-year-old girl in North Carolina. The bureau told Congress on Friday that it had uncovered new emails related to the Clinton case — one federal official said they numbered in the thousands — potentially reigniting an issue that has weighed on the presidential campaign and offering a lifeline to Donald J. Trump less than two weeks before the election.
  
  Until recently Anthony Weiner was married to Hillary Clinton’s closest aide, Huma Abedin, who separated from Weiner recently after news emerged that Weiner had engaged in an online affair with an underage girl.
  
  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-28/new-clinton-emails-emerged-part-probe-anthony-weiners-electronic-devices-nyt
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:17am
  - mikenmild
    
    This is Don’s usual style. To be fair, his mate in the US is probably someone a bit smarter than Don (he can use Google), but still dumb enough to believe what he reads on webshites like Zero Hedge.
    
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    October 29, 2016 11:27am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Just for Cha and mikey.
      
      http://the-american-catholic.com/
      
      This is the link to the blog run by my friend, Donald R. McClarey, whom I have known since before he started the blog. Its pretty obvious that he has linked to other stories/blogs.
      What’s the issue there?
      
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      October 29, 2016 11:42am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Ha, Zero Hedge is fun, publishes a lot (and I mean a lot) of rubbish, but it’s still a fun read. Sometimes need to order extra salt when reading, but there’s the odd nugget amongst the dross.
      
      I do reckon the people who control that site do it for fun as well. The comments are a riot, more conspiracy-mongers there than exist at a JFK assassination convention.
      
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      October 29, 2016 3:41pm
- SPC
  
  So it is not Bill’s activities that may bring her down but Weiner’s, a staffers husband.
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:51am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Amusement in the cheap seats. Already it’s being called “Dickileaks”, and a “Stroking Gun”…
    
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    October 29, 2016 4:05pm
    - SPC
      
      Staff husbands (or stiff husbands) bringing ruin to women (downfall from their pedestal/podesta email).
      
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      October 29, 2016 4:25pm
Manolo

Ah, the pervert Anthony Weiner, the man with a fine taste in women.
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October 29, 2016 11:10am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, said like a true Trump supporter by his leader who should know about “a fine taste in women.”
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:16am
  - Manolo
    
    I can tell than irony and sarcasm escape you entirely.
    
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    October 29, 2016 11:46am
Morrissey

On WikiLeaks, Journalism, and Privacy: Reporting
on the Podesta Archive Is an Easy Call
by GLENN GREENWALD, The Intercept, October 14 2016

FOR YEARS, WIKILEAKS has been publishing massive troves of documents online — usually taken without authorization from powerful institutions and then given to the group to publish — while news outlets report on their relevant content. In some instances, these news outlets work in direct partnership with WikiLeaks — as the New York Times and The Guardian, among others, did when jointly publishing the Iraq and Afghanistan war logs and U.S. diplomatic cables — while other times media outlets simply review the archives published by WikiLeaks and then report on what they deem newsworthy.

WikiLeaks has always been somewhat controversial, but reaction has greatly intensified this year because many of its most significant leaks have had an impact on the U.S. presidential election and, in particular, have focused on Democrats. As a result, Republicans who long vilified the group as a grave national security threat have become its biggest fans (“I love WikiLeaks,” Donald Trump gushed last night, even though he previously called for Edward Snowden to be executed), while Democrats who cheered the group for its mass leaks about Bush-era war crimes now scorn it as an evil espionage tool of the Kremlin.

The group’s recent publication of the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta has been particularly controversial because it comes less than a month before the election; it included all sorts of private and purely personal exchanges along with substantive, newsworthy material; and it was obtained through actions that were likely criminal (hacking). Compounding the intensity of the debate is the now standard Democratic campaign tactic of reflexively accusing adversaries of being tools or agents of Moscow.

As a result, it’s worth reviewing a few crucial principles and facts about the journalistic process….

Read more…
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/on-wikileaks-journalism-and-privacy-reporting-on-the-podesta-archive-is-an-easy-call/
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October 29, 2016 11:16am
- stephieboy
  
  morrisey ,
  
  a smallsampling some of Glen Greenwald’s rather unsavory and self-serving credentials .
  
  As an attorney, Greenwald zealously defended a murderous white supremacist and secretly recorded eyewitnesses, an action which was found to be unethical by the court. That’s right, he wiretapped them.
  
  Defending people celebrating the death of Margaret Thatcher, when he had previously criticised the people celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden[51][52]
  
  Apparently we all live in an alternate universe where Obama is solely to blame for Guantanamo being open, and not Congress.[55] Guantanamo was recently defunded again, but in Greenwald’s world, it’s all on Hitlerbama.
  
  He supported Oath Keepers, a far-right militia who believe, among other things, that Barack Obama is a card-carrying communist, the U.N. is going to put troops on American soil, and US cities will soon be turned into concentration camps under FEMA.[57] The Oath Keepers were well-known within the libertarian movement, and whilst Greenwald isn’t one (at least not of the “right”-libertarian persuasion), he has published within those channels when it suited him before.
  
  Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, instead of siding with free speech and the writers who were murdered, he decided to smear them as racists and post a bunch of ridiculous anti-semitic cartoons
  
  He quote mined a fellow reporter, Andrew C. McCarthy, and suggested that Obama’s pretext for bombing Syria was fake.[
  
  Remember when Glenn trashed Sony for producing “the ultimate hagiography of the most secretive arm of America’s National Security State” (Zero Dark Thirty)? Greenwald loves Sony now, because they’re buying the rights to his book.[62]
  
  http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald
  
  And not forgetting his debacle with kim.com at the 2014 elections coming up with zero zilch !
  
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  October 29, 2016 12:32pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Greenwald seems to be a hypocrite of the highest order. One minute he’s donkey deep in with the uber-leaker Snowdon on the “big reveal” in 2014 trying to sink Key with hacked information.
  
  Now he’s gone totally to the other extreme and he’s weeping tears of impotent rage about the same tactic being applied to Crooked Hillary. Boo hoo “Invasion of Privacy” boo hoo.
  
  Of course the big difference is that Hillary has a lot to hide and can be taken down with this “big reveal”.
  
  His real problem is his leftist mates don’t like it when their own tactics are dished up right back at them.
  
  The thing about Alinsky rules is that they can only be used against the enemies of the left. It’s a big fat “NOT FAIR” when the personal attacks are levied at the SJW bullies themselves.
  
  The worm has turned – suck it up Mr G! If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.
  
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  October 29, 2016 6:18pm
Fletch

Hillary on tape from 2006 proposing the rigging of a Palestinian election. You can listen for yourself.

On September 5, 2006, Eli Chomsky was an editor and staff writer for the Jewish Press, and Hillary Clinton was running for a shoo-in re-election as a U.S. senator. Her trip making the rounds of editorial boards brought her to Brooklyn to meet the editorial board of the Jewish Press.

The tape was never released and has only been heard by the small handful of Jewish Press staffers in the room. According to Chomsky, his old-school audiocassette is the only existent copy and no one has heard it since 2006, until today when he played it for the Observer.

“I do not think we should have pushed for an election in the Palestinian territories. I think that was a big mistake,” said Sen. Clinton. “And if we were going to push for an election, then we should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win.”

“I went to my bosses at the time,” Chomsky told the Observer. “The Jewish Press had this mindset that they would not want to say anything offensive about anybody—even a direct quote from anyone—in a position of influence because they might need them down the road. My bosses didn’t think it was newsworthy at the time. I was convinced that it was and I held onto it all these years.”

http://observer.com/2016/10/2006-audio-emerges-of-hillary-clinton-proposing-rigging-palestine-election/
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October 29, 2016 11:19am
- Morrissey
  
  No surprises there. The United States backed the abortive coup attempt against the elected Hamas government in 2007.
  
  The United States, whether the ruling faction belongs to the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, routinely conspires to undermine and, where possible, destroy democratic governments: vide Guatemala, Iran, Brazil, Chile, Nicaragua, Mexico, Indonesia, Egypt, Vietnam, Venezuela. (The list is actually far longer, but that’s just a few off the top of my head.)
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:28am
- DoctorDoc
  
  Never would’ve thought you were a Pro-Hamas guy, Fletch.
  
  So according to you it’s a bad thing Hillary thought it would be good to try and limit the power of a bunch of antisemitic, holocaust-denying genocidal Islamic terrorists?
  
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  October 29, 2016 11:29am
  - Fletch
    
    The point is that she is not averse to rigging elections, which apparently raised a lot of eyebrows even then, according to Chomsky. And later on in the tape she seems to give the actions of Hamas equal validity with Israel.
    
    Regarding capturing combatants in war—the June capture of IDF soldier Gilad Shalit by Hamas militants who came across the Gaza border via an underground tunnel was very much front of mind—Clinton can be heard on the tape saying, “And then, when, you know, Hamas, you know, sent the terrorists, you know, through the tunnel into Israel that killed and captured, you know, kidnapped the young Israeli soldier, you know, there’s a sense of like, one-upsmanship, and in these cultures of, you know, well, if they captured a soldier, we’ve got to capture a soldier.”
    
    Equating Hamas, which to this day remains on the State Department’s official list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations, with the armed forces of a close American ally was not what many expected to hear in the Jewish Press editorial offices, which were then at Third Avenue and Third Street in Brooklyn.
    
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    October 29, 2016 11:35am
- Gabby
  
  So you haven’t heard this socalled tape then.
  
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  October 29, 2016 12:25pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , you must know ( or are you choosing to be u wilfully ignorant ) the US has had a notorious history of overt ( including rigged elections ) operations in Latin America and elsewhere under Republican administrations .
  
  Notably Guatemala 1954 and of course the mother of them all Chile 1973
  
  .http://www.zompist.com/latam.html
  
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  October 29, 2016 12:40pm
Morrissey

DoctorDoc,

You don’t have a clue. Have you ever considered reading a little about the situation in the Occupied Territories and Gaza?
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October 29, 2016 11:33am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  You mean the only situation where Arabs get to experience a tolerant democracy? Where you don’t get thrown off buildings if you are gay? Where you can get proper employment (if you can stop yourself from attacking Jews with knives).
  
  It’s an awful set of circumstances for Arabs sure enough! It has to be stamped out by rocket attacks, human shielding with children and as much terrorism as the Saudis will fund.
  
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  October 29, 2016 6:20pm
Harriet

I haven’t heard of this kiwi bloke – but he’s getting a big write up:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/10/an_alexis_de_tocqueville_for_our_time.html

He comes across like Redbaiter. 😎
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October 29, 2016 11:36am
- cha
  
  Heh, Trevor *ZAP* Louden.
  
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  October 29, 2016 12:39pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Trevor Loudon , a virulent anti-communist and anti Obama ( Birther ? ) who agitated for a Soviet Free NZ and believed Glasnost and Perestroika were all fake ,
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Loudon
    
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    October 29, 2016 12:46pm
    - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
      
      “a virulent anti-communist”?
      
      Communist exterminated 10s of millions and enslaved billions in Totalitarianism. How can anyone not be strongly opposed to that?
      
      stephieboy like all Leftist is a closet Communist case.
      
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      October 29, 2016 2:26pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Ex-vice-President ACT party
  
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  October 29, 2016 1:26pm
- Jack5
  
  Trevor Loudon has been well known in Christchurch for a long time.
  
  He was part of ZAP (Zenith Appplied Philosphy), a group which was splintered off Scientology by John Dalhoff, son of a Danish immigrant. Unkind folk alleged Dalhoff senior, at one time one of New Zealand’s most prominent businessmen, came to NZ after World War 2 because he had been a volunteer in the Viking Division of the Waffen SS on the Eastern Front. After 1945, Danes were hostile to such volunteers.
  
  ZAP hostility to communism during the Cold War was such that they at times ambushed Lada cars driving through Christchurch streets, usually containing a mum and kids who didn’t know the family’s modest Lada was made in Russia.
  
  Southern property developer David Henderson, a friend of former ACT MP Rodney Hide, was also once linked to ZAP.
  
  Trevor Loudon has long run a right-wing blog, New Zeal.
  
  Link to New Zeal blog at Trevor Loudon’s web site:
  http://www.trevorloudon.com/
  
  Link to background article on ZAP:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenith_Applied_Philosophy
  
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  October 29, 2016 2:19pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Unsurprisingly Loudon believes that Islam and Communism are in bed together ,
    
    http://www.trevorloudon.com/2016/09/loudonclear-the-red-green-axis-with-guest-nevin-gussack-audio/
    
    The guy is what Psychiatrists would likely term a nutcase !
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:29pm
    - Manolo
      
      One thing is certain: both are vile and totalitarian ideologies.
      
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      October 29, 2016 2:32pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Manolo , no evidence of this among out local Muslims whether in Mt Roskill or elsewhere .
        
        But do provide examples .
        
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        October 29, 2016 2:34pm
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Silly logic from Stephie.
        
        The proof is all around us in this great world of ours.
        
        Look to Europe and there is wall-to-wall examples of the horrors provided by Islam.
        
        Your view that it hasn’t happened in NZ (yet) therefore all muslims are lovely is really not too logical. What the Islamisation of Europe has shown us that:
        – in the early days, muslim fundamentalism keeps a low profile
        – after a while, the high level of breeding allows the base muslim population to sneak up to around 1-2% of the overall population
        – at this point the density of muslims in small enclaves create infection points from which radical Islamism breeds
        – pretty soon you have mass damage to the host population and away you go
        – next step you have muslim psychos doing a Bataclan and killing people then chopping off their dicks and balls to put in their corpse mouths.
        
        By your logic, you’d have no problems with being injected yourself with a bunch of active cancer cells (after all they’d be almost invisible as they’d amount to such a small proportion of the total number of cells in your body).
        
        You’d be able to pronounce naively on Kiwiblog
        “Look – I have active cancer cells in my body and it’s not having any effect on me – this is all a huge lie about cancer being bad for humans. Let’s inject everyone with cancer and they’ll be fine too!”
        
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        October 29, 2016 6:28pm
    - Viking2
      
      Well the biggest Mosque in the world is in Moscow.
      Opened not so many months back.
      
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      October 29, 2016 5:13pm
      - stephieboy
        
        And Vlad was present and cut the ribbon .
        
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        October 29, 2016 9:36pm
Fletch

In case you missed it: the Doug Band memo, showing even more how corrupt the Clinton Foundation is.

http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2016/10/27/clinton-inc-shaking-clinton-foundation-donors-enrich-clintons/

Morning Joe spent 17 minutes of his show on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or0WYLnQ1BE

It’s making headlines at the New York Times and Wall Street Journal.
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October 29, 2016 11:43am
Manolo

The Democratic Party Mafia cranks it up:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/27/2-investigators-chicago-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/

CHICAGO — Susie Sallee was buried in 1998. Yet records show she voted in Chicago 12 years later.

Victor Crosswell died in 1994, but records show he’s voted six times since then. And then there’s Floyd Stevens. Records show he’s voted 11 times since his death in 1993.
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October 29, 2016 11:53am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  I’ll lay a solid wager that all those votes were for Democrats.
  
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  October 29, 2016 12:08pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Don the Kiwi , you will be delighted to learn that alt right provocateur James O ‘Keefe has attempted prove Democrat ghost voting but has failed miserably ,
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/17/james-okeefe-voter-fraud-fail
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:37pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      the Guardian??? Really????
      You believe the Guardian???
      
      Bwaahahaha.
      
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      October 29, 2016 3:38pm
Tauhei Notts

If I have got this wrong somebody more knowledgeable than me will tell us, I hope.
I am a Fonterra shareholder.
My dividends are subject to Resident Withholding Tax on Dividends of 33%, because there are no imputation credits.
Therefore there were no deductions from the Company’s imputation credit account during the year ended 31st July 2016.
When a company pays New Zealand income tax it gets credits to its Imputation Credit Account.
Fonterra’s Imputation Credit Account stood at $20mil as at 31st July 2015. Their imputation credit account stood at $20mil as at 31st July 2016.
It would appear to me that a tanker driver at Clandyboye pays more New Zealand income tax than does the Fonterra group of companies. If that is so, how on earth do the bastards get away with it.
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October 29, 2016 12:45pm
- Jack5
  
  Tauhei, I hope the the link below to a rural accounting firm can help you clarify the imputation tax credits. It includes this:
  
  There is currently legislation before parliament, which means that unlike most dividends one receives, the dividends received from Fonterra will not be subject to resident withholding tax nor have imputation credits attached. Also, there will be no GST paid on the dividend.
  
  The link is:
  
  http://www.myaccountants.co.nz/newsletters/news_archives/fonterra_dividend_payments
  
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  October 29, 2016 2:00pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Perhaps Fonterra doesn’t make a taxable profit ? As the base for Fonterra is still a Cooperative, that could explain it; cooperatives try not to make taxable profits but instead return the profits to their stakeholders. Such monies are taxed in the owners hands as income.
  
  Note that the same tax is being paid regardless of where it is taxed; if imputation credits are accrued and issued then that income isn’t further taxed in the recipients hands. But if no imputation credits are used the recipient DOES pay tax at personal rates (which, it should be noted, are higher than the company rate unless your income is fairly low). Tax incidence is a worthwhile study, companies don’t “pay” tax, they’re merely the conduit, some combination of owners, workers, customers, and wider stakeholders actually pay the tax in the end.
  
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  October 29, 2016 3:52pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Ed,
    Tatua Co-Op Dairy Co Ltd have attached imputation credits to their payouts in the past.
    Fonterra have never done so.
    Jack5
    The dividends received by a supplier from Fonterra are very complex. Presently the dividend on supply shares is exempt from Resident Withholding Tax whereas the dividend on investment shares is subject to RWT. So if a cocky had 105,000 shares and only supplied 100,000 kg milksolids, the RWT would only apply to the dividend on the 5000 shares.
    
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    October 29, 2016 4:08pm
    - Jack5
      
      Tauhei: I’ve just looked at taxation on co-op shares on the IRD site. You’re right, it’s complex.
      
      I guess that when the payout’s high no-one cares much as long as there’s no double taxation of co-op and supplier.
      
      Here’s some reading on it to help overcome insomnia.
      
      http://www.ird.govt.nz/technical-tax/legislation/2010/2010-109/2010-109-distributions/
      
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      October 29, 2016 5:28pm
      - Tauhei Notts
        
        Jack5
        When the imputation system came in one of Tatua’s directors was an MP. I recall him telling me that when he asked about the implications of the proposed dividend imputation laws on sharemilkers the I.R.D. officials confessed that they did know what a sharemilker was. It is a Sargasso sea of complexity.
        
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        October 29, 2016 7:11pm
Chuck Bird

I notice the highest number of discharge without conviction are for assault & related. It would be very good to get a break down of the types of assaults. I can see little reason for anyone getting a discharge without conviction for anyone guilty of an assault causing injury.

This amounts to dishonesty to employers, future partners and children and other countries perpetrated by our so called justice system.

Figures reveal huge regional discrepancies in rates of criminals getting off

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/85476825/figures-reveal-huge-regional-discrepancies-in-rates-of-criminals-getting-off
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October 29, 2016 1:31pm
iMP

What is the political fallout for Clinton ten days from the US Presidential election?

1) It terminally mires her campaign and political currency in yet more YUK and creates real doubts over corruption and honesty (and any explaining will be losing)

2) Weiner is particularly distasteful to women which hurts Clinton on a trump card she is playing

3) It is possible new revelations from the Weiner or Abedin (or both) laptops will show Clinton LIED or covered up that State Secrets were being communicated about her people insecurely which is a Federal offense

4) Clinton could be arrested and prosecuted (I think that now possible)

5) The FBI and State Dept are already smarting from corruption and nepotism slurs by association with Clinton; they may now both act to separate and re-establish departmental even-handedness and integrity sep from the Clinton machine (ie rats jump from ship)

6) Whatever is true or not; this is Clinton campaign death-by-another-thousand cuts: innuendo; association; too many scandals; rumours and just dodgy stuff – REALLY DODGY stuff

7) Blaming the Russians doesn’t wash anymore

8) Democrats will stay away; Bernie Sanders supporters will not vote Clinton

9) Republicans will come home because they sniff victory even if they don’t like Trump (they’ll vote for the Supreme Court)

10) African-Americans will go “Hillary -meh Nah” and either stay home or vote for Trump in higher numbers than predicted

11) The Scandal will strengthen Trump’s Catholic and Evangelical vote base to come out (that helped Bush Jr win)

12) Corruption and dishonesty are getting embedded in H Clinton and I think the electorate is turning against her; the media are also smarting from being labelled unfair and unbalanced against Trump

13) Trump’s linking this to Watergate (worse than) and “Don’t import this level of corruption in to the Oval Office” I think is now resonating with Independents and even Americans who don’t like Trump
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October 29, 2016 1:37pm
- stephieboy
  
  iMP, my belief is that Bernie Saunder supporters won’t stay away as he has endorsed Hillary Clinton and furthermore stood aside for her because he believes Trump as POTUS is unthinkable ! His supporters will note especially the last point .
  
  The Black and Hispanic voter will obviously see that Trump and his supporters are hostile towards them and therefore will get out and vote .
  
  Corruption and dishonesty are not embedded in the Clintons . No less so than Trump himself .
  
  His gross sexual impropriety and philandering will shatter his Evangelical voter base and Catholics will rightly be suspicious of his flip flops over abortion .
  
  The emails by any stretch of the imagination do not come anywhere close to Watergate . That’s just more Trump bloated Rhetoric .
  
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  October 29, 2016 2:06pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Just as well we all know you’re full of shit then.
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:28pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Tsk,tsk,tsk . There , there calm down and attend to yet another attack of the runs !
      
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      October 29, 2016 2:46pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Stephen Boyle.
        
        “The Black and Hispanic voter will obviously see that Trump and his supporters are hostile towards them and therefore will get out and vote .”
        
        Please explain how they are “obviously” hostile to Trump?
        
        stephie wish-list pulled from his arse.
        
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        October 29, 2016 3:44pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “Corruption and dishonesty are not embedded in the Clintons .”
    
    LOL, you are a degenerate, just like they are.
    
    #Dickileaks is here and the Stroking Gun has been found! #(((WEINER)))
    
    Watergate’s Carl Bernstein: FBI Wouldn’t Reopen A Probe Unless It Is “A Real Bombshell”
    
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-28/watergates-carl-bernstein-fbi-wouldnt-reopen-probe-unless-it-real-bombshell
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:31pm
    - stephieboy
      
      You surely don’t believe in that Clinton body bag garbage or that Hillary was sleeping through the Benghazi attacks ?
      
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      October 29, 2016 2:39pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “The emails by any stretch of the imagination do not come anywhere close to Watergate .”
    
    LOL, stephieGOY
    
    Watergate’s Carl Bernstein: FBI Wouldn’t Reopen A Probe Unless It Is “A Real Bombshell”
    
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-28/watergates-carl-bernstein-fbi-wouldnt-reopen-probe-unless-it-real-bombshell
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:34pm
    - stephieboy
      
      “Many are comparing Hillary’s email controversy to Nixon and Watergate. In what ways are they similar and different, and is one worse than the other?
      
      Seriously, according to the statement by FBI director James Comey, which it seems very few people have examined, the investigation found no criminal intent, no conspiracy to conceal or to destroy evidence, and no intentional misconduct. These elements were at the heart of Watergate, along with breaking and entering. Question Secretary Clinton’s judgment and debate its implications about her as a candidate all you want, that is fair, but drop the insistence her actions were worthy of criminal prosecution.
      
      Watergate salad, on the other hand, involves a lot of mixing and fluff, often with a few nuts thrown in, and is more form than substance.
      
      From Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System (bold added):
      
      . . . no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.
      
      In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.
      
      I should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them.
      
      . . . we believe our investigation has been sufficient to give us reasonable confidence there was no intentional misconduct in connection with that sorting effort….”
      
      https://www.quora.com/Many-are-comparing-Hillarys-email-controversy-to-Nixon-and-Watergate-In-what-ways-are-they-similar-and-different-and-is-one-worse-than-the-other
      
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      October 29, 2016 2:43pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Actually, the email scandal is worse than Watergate, and rather similar in style. It wasn’t the burglary at the Watergate that did Nixon in, it was the attempt to cover it up that led to the potential impeachment charges of obstruction of justice and perjury against Nixon.
    
    Hillary’s undoubtedly guilty of perjury and obstruction of justice, it is just that Washington now lacks anyone with the cojones to charge her. Back in Nixon’s day there were people with integrity in government (Archibald Cox, Richardson, Ruckelshaus, names you should look up); not so now, Lynch isn’t in that league which is why she was chosen to head the Department of (blank).
    
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    October 29, 2016 3:58pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Ed Snack , how often have you taken on the role as Judge , Jury and Executioner ?
      
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      October 29, 2016 9:40pm
  - Ross12
    
    The Black voters will get and vote –for Trump. Polls have Trump getting the highest Black voter support for a GOP candidate since the 1960s.
    
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    October 29, 2016 4:12pm
- Paulus
  
  Will not matter, Clintons’ have the electoral college votes already paid for.
  
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  October 29, 2016 4:14pm
- RF
  
  iMP. 10 out of 10 my friend.
  
  A perfect score for your 13 points.
  
  Do you have a sister ?
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:25pm
starboard

Read all about IWI and water rights here, its happening, the brown mafia are into it…a $35 billion per year business and they are lining up at the trough..

http://www.nzcpr.com/newsletter/
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October 29, 2016 1:54pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  We need to divorce Maori. We don’t need them.
  
  Set up a bit if turf in ratio to their population that is their own state and they can run it into the ground like every other non white majority population does – you only have to look around the Pacific to see all the examples.
  
  The reality is Maori need us whites, at least if they want to continue enjoying a Western standard of living and freedom.
  
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  October 29, 2016 2:38pm
  - stephieboy
    
    alt right Trumpist lunatic fringe stuff !
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:49pm
  - Gabby
    
    They’d probably be quite okay with you fucking off back to wherever your contraception averse gene polluter forebears slithered in from.
    
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    October 29, 2016 4:40pm
- Gabby
  
  What iwi’s Burton in?
  
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  October 29, 2016 4:41pm
Reid

Why Is the Foreign Policy Establishment Spoiling for More War? Look at Their Donors.

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-is-the-foreign-policy-establishment-spoiling-for-more-war-look-at-their-donors/
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October 29, 2016 1:54pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid ,the so-called Foreign Policy Establishment, are among many things , merely trying to remind Putin to give up his Pretensions trying to revive the Old Soviet Empire
  
  http://www.newsweek.com/how-putin-restoring-fallen-soviet-empire-501555
  
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  October 29, 2016 2:12pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    It is your girlfriend Killary and Obummer who are the neo conservative empire builders in the same vein as Bush before them.
    
    Thats why Washington DC (((Globalist Elites))) are going all out to obliterate the peoples choice Trump ( they already destroyed Bernie via Dem Party sabotage).
    
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    October 29, 2016 2:41pm
Manolo

Spare a thought for the poor Parisians:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3882218/Paris-s-new-tent-city-French-capital-scarred-growing-campsites-thousands-migrants-turfed-Jungle-pitch-launching-new-attempts-reach-Britain.html

Najib Omar and his pregnant wife Leyla, both 27, are originally from Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia, and have an 18-month-old son called Imran.

Now 9000 miles from their troubled homeland, they have pitched a tent on a dirty pavement close to the Eurostar hub in Paris.
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October 29, 2016 2:30pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Send them back, they have no right to invade and occupy white Europe.
  
  The (((Globalist Elite))) want to repopulate Europe with Africans and muslims.
  
  China and Japan would NEVER let this happen to their race/tribe.
  
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  October 29, 2016 2:45pm
AgentBallSack

Russia loses bid to be on the Human Rights Commission.
Luckily they elected (in no particular order)

Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, Brazil, Rwanda, Cuba, South Africa, Japan, Tunisia, the US and the UK.

The world is safe again!
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October 29, 2016 3:26pm
- cmm
  
  Worse still, Russia was on the council and have now been kicked out.
  
  Oh well, some topsy-turvy world we live in…
  
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  October 29, 2016 3:48pm
  - SPC
    
    Only Moslems bomb civilians and stay on the HRC.
    
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    October 29, 2016 4:28pm
- Zed
  
  I guess this:
  
  1. Exposes the UN for the farce it is.
  2. Exposes the political manipulation of international agencies under the guise of Human rights, democracy, etc… the Saudis have been bombing Yemen for a year now yet the Russians are the only ones who got kicked out.
  
  The wahabi Muslims who cut off heads after Friday prayers can lecture the world on human rights sharia way
  
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  October 29, 2016 5:51pm
Stars And Stripes

Helen Kelly ineligible for the New Zealander of the Year award category
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/85874277/helen-kelly-ineligible-for-the-new-zealander-of-the-year-award- category

Sorry but I don’t buy all this manufactured Helen the saint nonsense.
Seems like she is being glorified for political and ideological purposes more than anything else.
Next they will be demanding she is put on the next run of one hundred dollar bills( has to be the red one of course).
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October 29, 2016 4:22pm
- Gabby
  
  Sorry but I don’t get all this ad for Kiwibank in the guise of an ‘honour’ nonsense. Next thing some copier maker will be handing out ‘awards’ for ‘journalists’.
  
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  October 29, 2016 4:35pm
- rangitoto
  
  She tried to destroy the NZ film industry on behalf of Aussie unions. Wouldn’t get my vote.
  
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  October 29, 2016 5:00pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Incidentally if she does get back on the ballot she will be in esteemed company as I see one of the other darlings of the left this year Andrew Judd has been nominated.
    Maybe it should be renamed Most Divisive New Zealander Of The Year.
    
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    October 29, 2016 5:15pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Bullshit. The film industry was easily able to maintain its special status, with tax breaks and exemptions from normal labour law.
    
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    October 29, 2016 5:25pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Just in: Clinton is now LEADING in polls in important battleground states, such as Qatar, Iraq, Iran, Syria And San Quentin.
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October 29, 2016 4:27pm
- nasska
  
  The Washington Corrections Center for Women may yet gain a Presidential wing.
  
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  October 29, 2016 4:41pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Imagine being a female prisoner sharing a cell with Killary.
    
    Terrifying!
    
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    October 29, 2016 4:43pm
Longknives

Agree 100% with Stars and Stripes.
This Beatification of Helen Kelly is getting more than a little over the top..
A few days ago the Left were demanding that John Key attend her funeral (Why??) and now the rules apparently must be changed so she can be made New Zealander of the Year (Why? Because she Died??)
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October 29, 2016 4:37pm
- nasska
  
  ….”(Why? Because she Died??)”….
  
  No. Because of her brave & determined efforts to make medical marijuana available to those dying from cancer.
  
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  October 29, 2016 4:46pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Which she hadn’t mentioned at all until she wanted it herself.
    
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    October 29, 2016 5:03pm
    - mikenmild
      
      And you know that how? Do you have recordings of her conversations, or can you somehow imagine everything she might have ever said or done?
      
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      October 29, 2016 5:26pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        Did you throw a sickie and go to the memorial service on Friday MM?.
        
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        October 29, 2016 6:02pm
      - mikenmild
        
        No, she wasn’t anyone I knew.
        
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        October 29, 2016 6:05pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I am sorry for her family. I agree with her stance on decriminalising Marijuana, but aside from that she was a malign influence in NZ politics representing a fringing nutty viewpoint, not worthy of recognition or awards.
  
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  October 29, 2016 5:51pm
  - Gabby
    
    You just have to accept there’ll be a level of wastage in the labour force. Fining incompetent fuckers for safety breaches is just stifling free enterprise.
    
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    October 29, 2016 7:36pm
- Longknives
  
  I’ve got some unemployed Stoner mates who are always bombarding me with ‘Cannabis Cures Cancer’ nonsense on Facebook- Perhaps they should also be nominated for New Zealander of the Year??
  
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  October 29, 2016 6:07pm
  - mikenmild
    
    What a total lie. It’s pretty obvious that you have no mates.
    
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    October 29, 2016 7:54pm
    - Longknives
      
      I gave you an uptick for that one Mikey- Kudos!
      
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      October 29, 2016 8:29pm
      - mikenmild
        
        All in fun.
        
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        October 29, 2016 8:38pm
- Gabby
  
  Too right. No ponytail pulling at funerals. Bad form.
  
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  October 29, 2016 7:34pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Please just do us all a favour and change your name to GobShite.
    
    Since it’s obvious you’re just here to troll
    
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    October 29, 2016 7:46pm
    - Gabby
      
      Don’t rub Veet on your ballbag, you senile old scrotesucker.
      
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      October 29, 2016 8:00pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Killary fans are violent political terrorist:

Homeless black woman guarding Trump’s Hollywood Bvd star viciously attacked by Leftist, left lying on the ground half unconscious under her trolley of her possesions while the Hillary scum taunt, laugh and film her.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/video-homeless-trump-supporter-guards-donald-trumps-star-hollywood-blvd-violent-leftists/

I’m sure stephieGoy would have LOVED to been there cheer leading the mob.
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October 29, 2016 4:41pm
- sam green
  
  You are a cock Jazz Hands McIcarus. Silly girl.
  
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  October 29, 2016 5:36pm
Jack5

Auckland – that is, New Zealand – doesn’t appear in the top 20 destination points for Chinese tourists to the Asia-Pacific region, according to Mastercard’s 2016 figures.

Sydney comes in at No. 23, but there’s no mention of Auckland, our country’s main tourist-entry point.

https://newsroom.mastercard.com/asia-pacific/files/2016/06/Report-MasterCard-Asia-Pacific-Destinations-Index-final-160516.pdf
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October 29, 2016 4:55pm
- Brigitte
  
  That’s because they’re all waiting for the runway extension at Wellington……..
  
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  October 29, 2016 5:25pm
  - Jack5
    
    The patience of the Chinese is legendary, Brigitte, but …
    
    Here’s a Chinese proverb:
    
    Man who waits for roast duck to fly into mouth must wait very, very long time.
    
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    October 29, 2016 5:31pm
- Happychappy
  
  Maybe Goff doesn’t like Chinese takeaways like Len did
  
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  October 29, 2016 5:30pm
- sam green
  
  Perhaps they use Visa.
  
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  October 29, 2016 5:35pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Or cash.
    
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    October 29, 2016 5:46pm
Don the Kiwi

Hillary is toast.
Crooked Hillary and Predator Bill – jail time.
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October 29, 2016 5:43pm
- stephieboy
  
  Don the Kiwi , at times I feel sorry for deluded birther types like you.
  
  I believe Trumpists like you were saying exactly the same thing on 9/11 when Hilary swayed and hobbled her way into that SUV . Then came the three debates with her alive and well and of course Trump’s decline after the revelation of his sexual predations .
  
  Dot note this about the present email smear ,
  
  Comey :
  
  “I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation”.
  
  Wise words from a TM poster ,
  
  “You see they’re either classified emails that she had or they are personal or unclassified.
  
  We’ll find out eventually, but it doesn’t matter whether she’s cleared or not, she’ll be guilty in the eyes of the Trumpkins no matter what”
  
  In a similar way those like you believe the President was born in Kenya .
  
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  October 29, 2016 7:33pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Many false assumptions stephie.
    For example, I have never said that Obummer was not a US citizen.
    
    What Comey said was that Hitlary DID commit offences, but he decided not to indict, to the horror and disgust of all his colleagues. Now, he is clawing back his credibility, otherwise he would also be toast.
    
    You are indeed, a fecking tosser and no-account-loser, who continually dribbles Leftist shite.
    But you are amusing, and apparently a masochist – you seem to love downticks – you seem to treat Kiwiblog as your personal B & D Dominatrix.
    
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    October 29, 2016 9:48pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Stephieboy- KBs Dumbest Commentator
    
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    October 29, 2016 9:56pm
Viking2

Not sure about these Farrar fella’s Seem a bit dodgy.
Uber drivers are not ‘self-employed’ and deserve minimum wage, UK tribunal rules

At a tribunal hearing earlier this year, one of the two drivers, James Farrar, who has been with the firm since December 2014, said that in August 2015 he earned less than the £6.70 an hour for those aged 21 and older which was then the minimum wage at the time.

Uber said Farrar had picked a month in which he had logged onto the app for the longest period of time but had cancelled or not accepted the most amount of jobs, thereby reducing his hourly pay.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/uber-drivers-are-not-selfemployed-and-deserve-minimum-wage-uk-tribunal-rules-20161028-gsdjlj.html
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October 29, 2016 5:50pm
mikenmild

Just noticed this:

[DPF: And now you are calling me corrupt. You don’t learn so that is Strike 3 and a week’s suspension. You can call me all the names you like anywhere else on the Internet but what the fuck makes you think you can on my own blog?

I’m glad that it is only a week so that deadrightkev can still give us his reaction to the results of the presidential election.
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October 29, 2016 6:01pm
- nasska
  
  He was still gibbering away to himself on the FBI thread as late as 11.49am this morning Mike.
  
  Perhaps he hasn’t heard the good news. 🙂
  
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  October 29, 2016 6:14pm
- stigie
  
  Gawd, i thought he was talking about Reddy for a moment there..?
  
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  October 29, 2016 6:17pm
  - nasska
    
    Not Baity stigie…..just Colin Craig’s fluffer but he’s sure determined to go out with a bang considering DPF’s justified aversion to being abused on his own blog:
    
    …..”You and many on KB such as NK and David Farrar are precisely what the term cuckservative was profiled on”…..
    
    DRK 11.42am FBI thread.
    
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    October 29, 2016 6:23pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I feel a little bit sorry for DRK. He’s obviously a bit disturbed (believes in Colin Craig, Trump and assorted pseudoscience bullshit), but not in the D4J category just yet.
      As I said, I’m just glad his ban will end in time for him to come back and tell us what happens next after the election of Clinton…
      
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      October 29, 2016 6:32pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        I am just glad I am not now the last person banned on Kiwiblog
        
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        October 29, 2016 6:54pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  That last line of DPF’s really is a cracker!
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:37pm
  - mikenmild
    
    I’m really not sure why he took offence this time.
    
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    October 29, 2016 8:40pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      It’s been coming for DRK, like you say not yet a D4J but its getting close!
      
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      October 29, 2016 8:52pm
nasska

…..”tell us what happens next after the election of Clinton”…..

Thankfully that may not happen. I really pity any thinking Seppo tossing up what to do with their vote. As a fiscal conservative I could be pro Trump & as a social liberal I would be a reasonably good fit with the Democrats.

But I could never ever bring myself to vote for the lying, corrupt piece of dogshit that Clinton is proving herself to be on a daily basis.
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October 29, 2016 6:44pm
- mikenmild
  
  Go on, don’t be shy. Tell us how you would feel voting for Trump. Yuuuuge!
  
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  October 29, 2016 7:00pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”Tell us how you would feel voting for Trump”….
    
    A little bit sick when I was forced to realise that even he was a paragon of goodness & honesty compared with the munter opposing him.
    
    I never thought American politics would sink to current depths.
    
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    October 29, 2016 7:10pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Not a student of history, then?
      
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      October 29, 2016 7:12pm
      - nasska
        
        Not American history but I accept that there’s been some shockers in the White House over the years. Bush the Second would be the worst I can think of to date followed closely by Nixon.
        
        But we no longer have to live in a world influenced by those clowns……just one stuffed up by one of the two current bullshitting incompetent contenders.
        
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        October 29, 2016 7:21pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I think it is a bit harsh to accuse Clinton of ‘stuffing up the world’.
        She is a horrible candidate, and any normal Republican should whip her. Trump ain’t normal though, is he?
        Cracked explains his appeal:
        http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/
        
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        October 29, 2016 7:31pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      I think the great tranche of US voters feel the same way. Tragedy really – that someone like Trump is the only real alternative.
      
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      October 29, 2016 9:55pm
Jack5

Interesting item on Ngai Tahu’s business success on TVNZ at Six tonight.

But no mention that its businesses have the advantage of operating tax free, because they are registered as charities.
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October 29, 2016 6:59pm
- kowtow
  
  Or the perpetual top up clause. Thanks to Ngati Notional.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/complaint-industry-still-rambles
  
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  October 29, 2016 8:05pm
Happychappy

For the first time in months the News Reader’s on the Hub were silent with their views on Hillary and not one mention of Trump.Shows the confidence has been taken out of their one sided views
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October 29, 2016 7:05pm
Manolo

The Obama administration is rotten to the core:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/attorney-general-lynch-pleads-fifth-secret-iran-ransom-payments/
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October 29, 2016 7:19pm
Jack5

In case Hugh Pavletich hasn’t linked to this…

China’s property bubble – the centre of all the current property bubbles?

http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2016/10/24/the-risks-from-chinas-property-bubble/
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October 29, 2016 8:42pm
Jack5

What if Redbaiter won the $30 million raffle? Would he buy the Hooerald and run a Red Purge in our biggest city?

Did anyone win the lotto tonight?
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October 29, 2016 8:43pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Not me.
  The $30 mil. is still there – two won the lotto, and Strike went also.
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:00pm
Morrissey

Al Jazeera’s outrageously biased “news” is a scandal.
Al Jazeera News, Saturday 29 October 2016, 8 p.m.

Shameless black propaganda, like rust, never sleeps. As ISIL terrorists in Aleppo step up their attacks in Aleppo, the official television outlet for the ISIL-supporting Qatari dictatorship is pulling no stops.…

PETER DOBBIE: [reading slowly, striving to achieve maximum gravitas] Syrian forces in Aleppo are preparing for the final assault against what THEY call “terrorists.”

Dobbie intoned darkly about “the Syrian regime and its main military guarantor, Russia”, then notably brightened to inform viewers how the brave “opposition fighters” (in fact, ISIS) are “responding with car bombs and rocket attacks.”

Of course, anyone wishing to learn something about the Syrian insurrection, as opposed to accepting this dismal misinformation campaign masquerading as news from the likes of Peter Dobbie and Rory Challands, will consult serious and credible writing, such as the following….
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/5/17/noam_chomsky_on_syria_conflict_cut
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October 29, 2016 8:45pm
- stephieboy
  
  Morrissy, just as well we have an enormous variety of media outlets to choose from . They range for Putin’s dubious RT and Sputnik , the equally dubious Global Research or Zero Hedge and in stark contrast MSM Reuters , BBC , NYT , WP etc
  
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  October 29, 2016 9:50pm
AgentBallSack

WaPo kicking the shit out of Hillary, now reposted by The Herald

Fact check: The Hillary Clinton email controversy

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11738420
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October 29, 2016 10:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  ABS,
  
  Here’s What We Do and Don’t Know Right Now About the New Clinton Email Revelations
  
  What a day! With the news cycle (maybe) winding down for the night, let’s review what we (think we) know and don’t know about today’s revelations.
  
  What we know:
  
  Thus far no classified emails and those uncovered may relate to the sexual tastes of Huma Abedin’s estranged ex Anthony Weiner.
  
  Even Fox also reports that no classified emails are yet to be found .
  
  Sorry ,all a bit of a damp squib don’t you think ?
  
  http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/28/an_explanation_of_the_clinton_weiner_abedin_fbi_email_news.html
  
  plus,
  
  The Hillary Clinton Email Scandal Was Totally Overblown
  
  We learned nothing new from the investigation or James Comey’s statement.
  
  http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2016/07/hillary_s_email_scandal_was_overhyped.html#
  
  More and more like the pointless Benghazi conspiracy saga !
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:32pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Tell that to the FBI. It is unprecedented that they would open an investigation on a Candidate with 8 days to go to a Presidential Election.
    They must have found something truly serious.
    Sooo funny.
    
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    October 29, 2016 10:48pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    I don’t think even CNN are privy to whats going on at the FBI at the moment stephie. I think though that it doesn’t bode well for the Clintons. I am pretty sure theyre not laughing at pictures of Weiners dick.
    
    The next President to be impeached or also ran is my guess.
    
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    October 29, 2016 11:22pm
Reid

See, since it was part of the Weiner investigation this would have been known a month or so ago, whatever “it” is.

So Comey waited till now to release. Isn’t that interesting timing.

People who understand politics know Huma has Muslim Brotherhood close family connections (and they also know that Obama is also MB). What if what’s been discovered are some high grade secrets Huma’s copied from Hillary and supplied to the MB? It has to be something significant for Comey to do this. That would be.
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October 29, 2016 10:49pm
- All_on_Red
  
  What’s really funny is that Stephie is sooo stupid he doesn’t even qualify to earn the title ‘useful idiot’
  Heh.
  
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  October 29, 2016 10:52pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Comey may have had his hand forced by revelation that DOD had 1000 of the 30000? deleted emails, that Hillary had claimed were all personal (she deleted them after subpoenas were issued). These emails are going to be in congressional hands in a few days.
  
  This might become a bigger issue as it could demonstrate unequivocally an instance of breaking the law by destroying incriminating (classified emails) evidence subject to a subpoena.
  
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  October 30, 2016 12:04am
All_on_Red

Loretta Lynch, please report to the nearest tarmac ASAP! Bill Clinton has a cute story about his grandson that he urgently needs to share.
Lol
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