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October 28, 2016 11:22am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 28 October 2016

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jack185

I’m back motherfu*kers
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October 28, 2016 11:27am
- thedavincimode
  
  Perhaps then, you could fuck off again?
  
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  October 28, 2016 11:47am
  - lilman
    
    Very good,laughed like hell !!!!!!!!!!
    
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    October 28, 2016 12:11pm
marquess

Desperate for attention, max key decides to abuse random members of the general public.
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October 28, 2016 11:28am
- thedavincimode
  
  Well spotted marquess. The irony in the PM’s son behaving like senior liebour ~~parliamentarians~~ troughers wasn’t lost on me either. (Albeit that it was his son and not the PM himself.)
  
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  October 28, 2016 11:44am
  - Gabby
    
    Do tell, which ones? Is liebour another name for the Anal party? I think Maxi Pads probably doesn’t lean Analwards.
    
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    October 28, 2016 12:40pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    It may be the PM’s son and not him. However, I say that is a reflection on his parenting skills. I say this fair comment as he was instrumental in making criminals of good parents for smacking naughty kids on the arse. I wonder is Max ever got a smack on his bum or had his mouth washed out with soap.
    
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    October 28, 2016 1:13pm
    - stephen2d
      
      How to then judge Annete King’s kid, the junkie one?
      
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      October 28, 2016 1:27pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        Much the same. I think it fair to judge all MPs parenting skills who voted for the anti-smacking legislation or who opposed parental notification for underage daughters getting abortions.
        
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        October 28, 2016 1:34pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      At first I was oh no, that’s a terrible thing to say. Then I realised he was just taking the piss out of cyclists, who were probably taking themselves a bit too seriously, as some are prone to do.
      
      Do you really think Max Key believes what he said? He is young, full of himself, might be a bit of a dick but I doubt it was more than a poorly placed joke.
      
      The more anyone puts themselves out on Twitter or wherever he was posting, the more chance of saying something stupid. Hopefully he will learn from this.
      
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      October 28, 2016 1:43pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        I think it will take some time. He is a poorly brought up rich brat.
        
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        October 28, 2016 2:02pm
- dime
  
  lol
  
  Dime used to have a mate whos favourite thing was to cruise along tamaki drive, searching for the most romantic couple he could spot.. once spotted he would scream “suck his d*ck” or “f*ck her in the …”
  
  he’d film it.
  
  all the boys found it hilarious!
  
  we were a btit younger than max key but the reality is, its just a shitty thing some kids do.
  
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  October 28, 2016 11:47am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Trumpy always told the guy to grab ’em by the pussy.
    
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    October 28, 2016 11:49am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      Do you think that the fashion for severe waxing in that area now makes the expression “pussy” obsolete?
      
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      October 28, 2016 12:14pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        Notts, an excellent point but nevertheless, a good place to draw the line on that one.
        
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        October 28, 2016 12:35pm
      - Inandout
        
        Not necessarily TN, as with this hairless variety. Note it has National Party colours.
        
        http://www.petsworld.in/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Sphynx-cat-warrior.jpg
        
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        October 28, 2016 12:46pm
  - marquess
    
    Oh sure, but the reality is that he should have grown out of his teenage mong phase, and as someone who aspires to be the centre of attention he should probably try to not be a dick.
    
    And if he doesn’t, he’d going to get loudly criticised. Freedom to be an idiot equals the responsibility of dealing with the consequences.
    
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    October 28, 2016 11:55am
    - thedavincimode
      
      thurrpp!
      
      (code for sanctimony alert)
      
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      October 28, 2016 12:03pm
      - marquess
        
        Do you mind? Adults are talking.
        
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        October 28, 2016 12:07pm
      - Gabby
        
        It’s different when the ponyboys do it.
        
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        October 28, 2016 12:41pm
    - Garbageman
      
      “and as someone who aspires to be the centre of attention he should probably try to not be a dick” pot meet kettle
      
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      October 28, 2016 12:18pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Some people can’t help themselves in the being-a-dick stakes. Others make it something of an art form.
      
      Where do you sit in the spectrum marquess?
      
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      October 28, 2016 12:33pm
    - Paulus
      
      I was a teenage jerk but grew out of it.
      Show me a male teen who has not been a dick at some time or another ?
      Precious goody pricks.
      
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      October 28, 2016 1:27pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Yup when I lived in the Tron we would cruise past weddings and yell out “Fuck her mate, I did”
    
    cringe factor 10 these days
    
    The bonus was we didn’t live in an online world where people are targeting everything we said due to who we were.
    
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    October 28, 2016 11:59am
    - Gabby
      
      Course you did get your clock cleaned a few times. Swings and roundabouts.
      
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      October 28, 2016 12:44pm
    - itstricky
      
      Max posted it himself, didn’t he? That propels him out of the “victim” sphere and into the “grow up” one.
      
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      October 28, 2016 2:25pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Sure but what young guy hasn’t said stupid shit?
        Lefties would make that a crime. (unless it’s about horrible alt right tories of course)
        
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        October 28, 2016 5:31pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I once knew a 50-ish bloke, respected businessman and Rotarian, who saw a woman walking a dog and yelled out of the car “which is the dog?”
    In the days before cellphones unfortunately.
    
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    October 28, 2016 12:18pm
- starboard
  
  Is that all ya got marquess ? A real headline goes something like “Naked male teen seen running from senior Liarbor mp’s house with another senior liarbor mp ( ginga ) chasing him”
  
  Now THATS a headline.
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:07pm
- RRM
  
  And you give him the attention he seeks. Two thumbs up to you marquess!
  
  Ever heard the expression “do not feed the troll”??
  
  If more people just restricted their comments every time he appears in the media to “Who’s Max Key?” – or preferably nothing at all – maybe we would start to see the desired result?
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:48pm
- Interested
  
  Is it ok that the media stalk Max Key’s internet accounts?
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:07pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Wow. Churnalist trawls social media, finds something vaguely controversial from son of public figure, interviews keyboard, cues faux outrage.
  
  How fucking pathetic.
  
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  October 28, 2016 2:31pm
- Nermal
  
  For gods sake, we’re talking about a young guy who sadly hasn’t inherited all of his parents’ intelligence genes. No different to many youths of any generation. Forget who his father is and leave the man alone. Click Bait!
  
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  October 28, 2016 7:05pm
Hugh Pavletich

… An essential read …

CHINA URBAN LAND / HOUSING MARKET FIASCO – ‘THE FLOUR IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE BREAD’ …

China capital flight flashes warning as authorities forced to prick property bubble … Ambrose Evans-Pritchard … UK Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/26/capital-flight-from-china-flashes-warning-as-property-boom-defla/

… extracts …

… The PBOC has burned through $800bn of foreign reserves since mid-2014, when they peaked at $4 trillion. It still has ample fire-power but bond sales automatically tighten China’s internal monetary policy since it is hard to sterilize the effect, and tightening may the last thing they want if the economy is slowing hard next year.

“Our view is that the RMB (yuan) will depreciate 20pc against the US dollar to 8.1 by the end of 2018 as deflation of the property bubble leads to more capital outflows,” Zhiwei Zhang from Deutsche Bank. “This is deflationary for global trade.”

That is an understatement. A Chinese devaluation on this scale would be an earthquake for the world’s economic and financial system, unleashing a tsunami of cheap manufacturing exports into Europe and the US. It would silence all talk of global reflation. Bond yields would fall even further.

Beijing is trying to curb excess capacity across a swathe of sectors from steel to shipbuilding, chemicals and solar panels, but regional party bosses and vested interests largely do as they please. …

… and further on … that remarkable Chinese sense of humour …

… Mortgages made up 71pc of all loans in July and August, up from 26pc last year. Land prices have risen 140pc this year, and in some places are even higher than the equivalent sales prices of finished apartments nearby, a pattern aptly described in China as “flour being more expensive than bread”. …read more via hyperlink above …
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October 28, 2016 11:34am
- starboard
  
  “read more via hyperlink above” …
  
  I’m ready to slash my wrists now..why bother going to the hyperlink?
  
  Try side 2 of the 33 Hugh, side 1 has been thrashed into eternity ( us older folk will know what a 33 is )
  
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  October 28, 2016 11:47am
Manolo

He who pays the piper…
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/27/make-soros-happy-inside-clinton-teams-mission-to-please-billionaire-vip.html

Newly revealed emails posted by WikiLeaks show top aides to Hillary Clinton went out of their way to keep a certain VIP happy: Uber-liberal billionaire George Soros.

The emails, hacked from the account of Clinton Campaign Chairman and Soros ally John Podesta, disclose that Clinton was advised to do fundraisers simply to make Soros “happy.” They also indicate the 85-year-old Hungarian-born heavyweight, through his top aides, freely reached out to Podesta to make Soros’ wishes clear on issues ranging from trade to migration to the Supreme Court.
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October 28, 2016 11:36am
unaha-closp

Auckland Planning – a 3 step process, brought to you by Labour (Len Brown) and the Greens (Penny Hulse).

1, Restrict suburban land supply to ratchet Auckland land prices through the roof. Expand exurban land supply.
2, Watch as urban/suburban Auckland building slows to a crawl. Watch as sprawl (exurban) surges to record levels.
3, Try to shift blame to the government for allowing Auckland population to grow at unprecedented* rates.

* Auckland pop growth rates are much slower than rates experienced by Melbourne or Brisbane over same period.

Isn’t it strange that Lab/Greens continue to poll so badly?
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October 28, 2016 11:54am
Fletch

Hillary, so frail she needs secret service help to mount one single step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef6UuBTqsRc
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October 28, 2016 12:02pm
- dime
  
  how is that old lady supposed to handle the job?
  
  shes 69.. imagine what a mess she will be at 73?
  
  this isnt an agist thing, shes clearly not well.
  
  also, shes an evil, war mongering c*nt
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:10pm
  - doggone7
    
    Brilliant, did you post to show that you learned from your Tamaki Drive mate and despite the passing of the years, still reman at that level?
    
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    October 28, 2016 12:30pm
  - Fletch
    
    We all know she’s not really there to do the job – she’s running for the job so she can make money once she is in place. She’ll send lackeys out to the places she is supposed to go, while she eats bon-bons in the oval office.
    
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    October 28, 2016 12:51pm
  - stephieboy
    
    dime , of course it doesn’t bother you that Trump is a year or two older ?
    
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    October 28, 2016 1:23pm
    - Paulus
      
      Not apparantly in senile decay though.
      
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      October 28, 2016 1:30pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , not sure what planet you’re on but she is alive and well here on the campaign trail with the first lady ,
  
  http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article110785557.html
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:22pm
BeeSting

Russell Crowe For President

Make New Zealand New Zealand again

and this time we take over and rule the West Island
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October 28, 2016 12:08pm
tom hunter

I’ve got a fairly sunny, optimistic outlook for humanity’s future. But then there’s things like this…

Kris: “I’m obsessed with books right now. I’m reading a book about Le Courvoisier [sic], which is an architect. It’s so weird and boring, but I’m obsessed.”
Khloe: “No you’re not. And you’re not reading that book.”
Kris: “Well, I look at them.”
Khloe: “Right, you look at it. It’s not a real book.”
Kris: “It has words.”
Khloe: “Oh, ‘This building was erected in nineteen-whatever’?”
Kris: “Yes, it’s called history.”
Khloe: “That’s a coffee table book.”

“It has words”.

Yeah – here’s my words: it is time to thin the herd….
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October 28, 2016 12:08pm
- Fletch
  
  I’m reading a book about Le Courvoisier
  
  Why did I think that was a wine?
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:53pm
Happychappy

Why have we allowed ourselves to blamed for people in NZ making bad choices.I am sick of the MEDIA and the LEFT for placing the blame on hard working LAW abiding citizens for drugs,alcohol,and behav’iour problems that leads them to be placed on the poverty list.No one has asked these people to take drugs and where did they get their money from to purchase the problem of their own making, in my opinion by making their family’s go without knowing full well the blame would be placed on the GOVERNMENT.
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October 28, 2016 12:13pm
- Gabby
  
  That’s pretty crappy. What if they didn’t? I guess the accusation should be enough, but you wouldn’t be such a happy fucking chappy if you had ended up in clink because someone reckoned they saw you hanging around the changing sheds in your overcoat.
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:51pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Big tough idiot on a keyboard but a absolute wanker in real life,time to grow up
    
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    October 28, 2016 1:44pm
    - Gabby
      
      Little crappy worm throwing people out on the street so he can make a bob of taxpayers’ money not cleaning a house that didn’t need it.
      
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      October 28, 2016 9:41pm
Ed Snack

I almost consider it a mark of sanity that I had to look up who “Kris and Khloe” were.

Bread and circuses Tom, bread and circuses.
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October 28, 2016 12:14pm
- tom hunter
  
  It is. I had to confirm with my daughter, who – despite being an anti-social networking being – is aware of who they are.
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:22pm
lilman

Obama wife is a scary mole.

Just watching her on news and she is always quick to put in the shit then hide behind the old crutch of being a African American so you cant call me on anything.
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October 28, 2016 12:17pm
- stephieboy
  
  lilman, the endemic racism of a Trumpist !
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:36pm
  - lilman
    
    NO Im me,I dont like Muslims and my wife and 4 kids who happen to be Maori will attest that I HATE anyone who promotes themselves above the wishes of the majority or to deny them the rights on the basis they dont infringe on others to carry out their peaceful daily lives.
    
    Oh and did I mention I dont like Muslims,a death cult by any description of one.
    
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    October 28, 2016 1:48pm
    - stephieboy
      
      lilman, so how are Muslims in NZ promoting themselves “above the wishes of the majority “now ?
      
      Are these NZ Kurds protesting aginst ISIS members of a death cult ”
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11313327
      
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      October 28, 2016 3:14pm
      - lilman
        
        Hey I dont care,cry me a bloody river.
        If you live here abide by our laws,
        
        Sharia is a shit house set of laws that go against all values and fairness that New Zealand hold dear.
        
        I truly hope that when they west come to their senses and combat rampant extremism then we shall see where every bodies loyalties are.
        
        Stephie remember drones are created by a Christian god ,dont you love it?
        
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        October 28, 2016 6:13pm
    - GoVege
      
      Not all Muslims are potential terrorists.
      I personally know two who are extremely gentle.
      It’s those dorks who make their wives walk around in a black shroud I’d like to see kicked out.
      
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      October 29, 2016 12:20am
- Manolo
  
  Marie Antoinette Obama is a contemptible person.
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:43pm
- GoVege
  
  That’s a horrible thing to say, lilman.
  I thought that revolting expression died out 30 years ago.
  Michelle is an amazing woman and an inspiration to women the world over.
  And she happens to be incredibly beautiful also.
  
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  October 28, 2016 3:16pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Cough-cough.
    
    “And she happens to be incredibly beautiful also.”
    Of course she is….hppprph snigger 🙂
    
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    October 28, 2016 7:45pm
    - GoVege
      
      You sound like a very mature man who really respects women.
      I bet you and most of the KB Clinton haters here had a great relationship with their mums.
      
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      October 28, 2016 11:53pm
  - nasska
    
    …..”she happens to be incredibly beautiful also”….
    
    To me she has all the natural physical attraction of the north end of a southbound bus.
    
    This “beauty” concept must be more subjective than I thought. 🙂
    
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    October 28, 2016 8:01pm
    - GoVege
      
      Yeah it is.
      A stunning natural blonde relative of mine was constantly upset when she moved to England.
      Back home she had Kiwi blokes panting after her.
      In England, the men seem to have a fascination for dark women, and she was constantly catching her boyfriend gazing in rapture at dusky maidens.
      
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      October 29, 2016 12:09am
  - Jack5
    
    GoVege … so you’re the brainy one who writes the SpecSaver ads….
    
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    October 28, 2016 10:34pm
  - lilman
    
    Hi ,Im no painting,really,on a good day I could give Andrew Hore a run for his money but then Im biased so maybe a bit self serving in that judgement.
    
    As for the Lovely Michele Obama,i think she is a spiteful woman.I think she has such a weak sense of worth that she feel necessary to snark and pick at any comment or phrase anyone makes with regard elite politics.
    As for her looks ,I cant comment as I have never actually looked at her in that way,her demeanour reduces any interest to look further.
    
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    October 28, 2016 11:00pm
    - GoVege
      
      That’s funny…I can’t remember her ever “snarking and picking”.
      How about a few examples.
      
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      October 29, 2016 12:01am
tom hunter

I like one of the latest leaked Podesta emails because, while it was funny, it also showed that there is some hope that the Democrat Party is not completely filled with shills and idiots, even those close to Hillary:

From: ntanden@gmail.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2015-07-25 00:28
Subject: Re: Cnn poll
…..
Do we actually know who told Hillary she could use a private email? And has that person being drawn and quartered?

Like whole thing is fucking insane.

True. But it can be papered over by the Hillary campaign deploying all those “brown and woman pundits”.

Yes, that’s how these people talk between themselves.
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October 28, 2016 12:21pm
tom hunter

I also could not let this one pass, given that various people, including The Great Orange One himself, have been touting Michael Moore’s videotape where he passionately exclaims that Trump being elected President will be a gigantic “Fuck You” from working people to the establishment.

Well, that’s what he says at one time. Then he says this:

I hope he goes down. I want a 50-state sweep. I want both houses of Congress back in Democratic control and I want all the “nasty” women and men to show up November 8th. Now you see what he’s done by his behavior. It’s no longer just Donald J. Trump on the ballot. Misogyny is on the ballot. Racism is on the ballot. White privilege and elitism are on the ballot. It’s not just about defeating Trump. First of all, be for Hillary. But secondly, we need to defeat not just Trump, but whatever it is he springs from; the dying dinosaurs that exist in this country who miss the old way where the white man was going to run the show. Last month, we just got the second year in a row where the majority of kindergarteners in school in this country were not white. So welcome to the new America…

I think we can safely say that Moore will be voting Hillary, despite all the working class bullshit he spews. Which is no surprise as that’s been his schtick for forty years now in crying about the poor while sucking up to the elites.
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October 28, 2016 12:27pm
- Fletch
  
  Moore is full of shit. If you’re voting for Hillary you’re voting for abortion on the ballot, open borders on the ballot, and quid pro quo.
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:58pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    “Moore is full of shit”
    
    Correct. That’s what makes him fat.
    
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    October 28, 2016 1:06pm
    - lilman
      
      He is from a family of means,not mentioning he is from a wealthy back ground.
      IT doesnt fit his narrative.
      
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      October 28, 2016 1:22pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch, anticipating more terror attacks and killings by Pro-Lifers if Hilary gets in ?
    
    http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men
    
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    October 28, 2016 1:26pm
    - lilman
      
      Shit ,that was meant to be a down tick stephie.(…*#!)
      
      I do know there will be more deaths if Hillary gets voted in and more Muslim Extremists get entry to the USA.
      
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      October 28, 2016 1:51pm
deadrightkev

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
I wonder if DPF will be posting on the Max Key brain explosion?

What is good for the goose is good for the gander surely?

Is this not violent sexual behavior?
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October 28, 2016 12:30pm
- starboard
  
  err, what was violent about it?
  
  Exaggerate much.
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:34pm
- Garbageman
  
  Or maybe he still adheres to the age old ethics of leaving politicians children alone, unlike the constant attack the rabble on the left have launched on them in the last few years
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:40pm
- thedavincimode
  
  There are a couple of people here today who seem hell bent on trying to out ‘Scott Chris’ Scott Chris.
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:42pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Why would he Kevin? Max Key is not an elected representative, or a serial tougher or anything.
  
  Those who seek to use Key Jr to score points against his father disgust me. And before you attack me as a National sycophant, I apply the same standard to the families of all MP’s, unless those family members actively inject themselves into the political debate. We ask a lot of our MP’s, but at the end of the day most are just normal Kiwis like you and me who have chosen to have a public profile. But that doesn’t make attacking their families ok.
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:44pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  You’re right Kev.He should have tried writing her bad poetry, falling in love with her despite being married, and saying lots of creepy things.
  #WINNING
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:22pm
AgentBallSack

Well after a 65 year old teacher from Maungaraki has been charged with illegally importing euthanasia drugs, I stand by my comment yesterday regarding a secret society of Granny killers targeting the infirm and often unsupported members of our society.

Bring on the down votes.
FWIW I agree with euthanasia but not when it’s secretly administered.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/85827631/charges-laid-over-importing-euthanasia-drug
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October 28, 2016 12:36pm
- starboard
  
  It may have been for her own use, and a couple of friends ?
  
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  October 28, 2016 12:38pm
- waikatogirl
  
  If it is secretly administered then that is murder. We have laws to convict anyone who tries that.
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:54pm
tom hunter

Good grief – a few more like this, widely spread across the MSM – might start to almost begin restoring a teensy, tiny bit of faith in them…. NYT, WSJ. And apparently they all believe Wikileaks.

Pity it took Wikileaks, but then I remember that modern journalists don’t do investigations or have sources – well, unless they damage the GOP. I guess they figured they could not ignore this, even if they had nothing to do with unearthing it.

Seventeen prime-time morning minutes – rather than 30 seconds at midnight – on the latest revelations of Clinton sleeze and corruption that’s not from a “right-wing, gibbering, tinfoil, nut, nut, nutter site”

When you’ve lost MSNBC, Hillary…

Won’t make any difference though. Voters – especially Democrat voters – would have to care about this, and they haven’t to date.

Come on Hillary supporters: tell us again why calling her a corrupt, lying crook is an unjustified, extremist description.
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October 28, 2016 12:39pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  At this point Clinton probably has it won, loads of early votes already in, and still a big gap in polls to bridge for Trump. So safe for media supporters to start ‘virtue signalling’ some simulacrum of balance.
  
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  October 28, 2016 2:56pm
Lance

I see a breathless Breaking News headline on the Hoorald
“AB’s threatened by IRA on 1973 tour”

Ummm
If that’s a bomb warning.. they are a bit late
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October 28, 2016 12:49pm
Ross12

Here’s how you raise money for your party’s election campaign —ask a government dept to divert a few dollars in the right direction

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/10/26/schweizer-obamas-doj-transferring-money-left-wing-groups-influence-election/
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October 28, 2016 1:01pm
Captain Mainwaring

So the world’s largest marine protection area is to be created in the Ross Sea.
Hope the Special People were consulted. They did have icebreakers in the olden days you know.
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October 28, 2016 1:02pm
Fletch

The choice between Trump and Clinton. This is essentially what you’re voting about – American Roulette. At least with Trump you have half a chance.

http://www.conservativebookclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/189983_image.jpg
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October 28, 2016 1:02pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Assange says Trump has no chance of winning because media is run by Clinton groupies 🙁

““I don’t think there’s any chance of Donald Trump winning the election, even with the amazing material we are publishing, because most of the media organizations are strongly aligned with Hillary Clinton,” he said adding that journalists and people who work in the media are predominantly middle class and view Trump as representing “what in their mind is white trash.””

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-27/assange-predicts-trump-will-lose-accuses-clinton-campaign-trying-hack-wikileaks
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October 28, 2016 1:06pm
- stephieboy
  
  Jazz-Hands Mc Feels , which of course is utter crap . Fox , ( arguably the most popular of newspeak media outlets ) Breitbart ,Washington Times , Alex Jones ,frontage , National Review etc run by Clinton groupies ?
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:31pm
- SPC
  
  Even with the amazing material they are publishing to help decide the result they way he wants.
  
  At least his partisanship is transparent.
  
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  October 28, 2016 2:57pm
- EAD
  
  because media is run by Clinton groupies
  
  Interesting choice of words as I’ve never heard “Media Groupies” before as a term to describe those from the Jewish tribe.
  
  Surely Assange is just taking the p*ss, as the media has been run on blood lines for generations in America.
  
  https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2013/04/15/six-jewish-companies-control-96-of-the-worlds-media/
  
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  October 28, 2016 6:37pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Apart from Hitler, who was your favourite Nazi leader?
    
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    October 28, 2016 6:39pm
    - EAD
      
      Hi Mikenmild 🙂
      
      If all you can do is smear
      Then you express your own fear
      If you cannot hold a civil discussion
      Then you know nothing of the true Russian
      
      To answer your question – Goebells
      
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      October 28, 2016 6:51pm
AgentBallSack

Poor poor lady forced to live in a tent in Raglan and tell lies. Her son is at school at 4 years old (so she can’t move away) and her eldest at 21 is still somehow her responsibility has to live in a tent despite meeting the legal definition of an adult.

But she is there to discover her “whakapapa” and she has met with “lots of rellies, bro”

Apparently too hard to move to Hamilton where the houses are because she has already made quite a few drug connections.

Tiny violins playing, can you hear them?
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October 28, 2016 1:06pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  I do not have permission to edit that comment even though I own it so link is here
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:08pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Cool tent – wish I could have one of those in Raglan.
    
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    October 28, 2016 1:23pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Why does the Stuff think anyone is interested in her “plight”. I’m pretty sure no one cares that my wine rack doesn’t automatically re-stock itself.
  
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  October 28, 2016 1:26pm
  - RalphT
    
    Of course it doesn’t Rich Prick. Being er, a Rick Prick you would have servants to do that for you.
    
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    October 28, 2016 1:50pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Being a Michael Cullen Rich Prick, servants are way, way out of my league.
      
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      October 28, 2016 1:53pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Raglan is a nice cute, cool place; wonderful to visit.
  But it is full of lazy dropkick hippies who have no intention of contributing to NZ.
  Oh they don’t grow drugs in Victoria St Hamilton, they grow them about 45km away
  
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  October 28, 2016 5:43pm
  - GoVege
    
    So long as they’re not having 10 kids on the Benny who cares….
    
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    October 30, 2016 11:34pm
Paulus Gnome

Manhire opines in a newspaper, this being the best line imo:

‘From Hon Paula Bennett, acting prime minister

Winston’s been standing in your office for the last hour just staring at me. Just standing and staring. Is that normal?’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11737220

Five minutes in one’s life never to be seen again but what the heck, it’s Friday!
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October 28, 2016 1:06pm
VicParking

Here we go again….. EU and 24 other countries have agreed to “unanimously designate the Ross Sea as an MPA”. Murray McCully announced this today. Off we go to court as the Ross sea is a traditional Maori fishing ground and contains a huge Trough.
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October 28, 2016 1:32pm
Manolo

The crook will kick the bucket within two years:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-hillary-stumbles-boarding-campaign-plane/
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October 28, 2016 2:16pm
Reid

Beware the poison of lefty cultural marxism. For if the following isn’t poison then wtf is?

An editor of Austria’s largest paper, Kronen Zeitung, is to be tried for hate speech over a commentary he wrote about the migrant crisis last year.

On 25 October 2015, Christoph Biro wrote of the masses of migrants who were travelling through the Styrian countryside and remarked on the assaults and property damage committed by migrants, reports Kurier.

Calling the majority of the migrants “testosterone-driven Syrians”, Mr. Biro recounted the multiple reports of migrants carrying out, in his words, “extremely aggressive sexual assaults”.

He also detailed Afghan men had slashed the seats of the trains that were transporting them to Germany because they refused to sit where Christians had previously sat.

The commentary provoked a negative reaction at the time with 37 complaints lodged against Mr. Biro. He took four weeks off from his position at the time, claiming that he had lost perspective and proportion of the situation.

Many, including the Austrian train company ÖBB, denied that Afghans had destroyed their seats, though cases of sexual assault have been rampant across Austria over the past year.

The prosecutor in the Styrian capital of Graz has confirmed they will be seeking charges against Biro for his comments after the case was brought to them by left-wing SOS Mitmensch. The group released a guide for Austrians earlier this year on how to successfully get people tried for hate speech crimes.

SOS Mitmensch describes itself as a pressure group for human rights and has been a staunch opponent of the anti-mass migration Austrian Freedom Party (FPÖ) who have significantly risen in the polls over the course of the migrant crisis. Head of the left-wing group, Alexander Pollak, has claimed that his organisation has been inundated with requests on how to report anti-migrant comments to the police.

While many private individuals in Germany and Austria have been successfully prosecuted for anti-migrant, or even migrant-critical rhetoric, the case against Mr. Biro marks the first time a member of the press has been prosecuted in Austria since the migrant crisis began.

A similar case in neighbouring Germany had been that of comedian Jan Böhmermann, who faced charges for insulting the President of Turkey in a crude poem he recited on his television programme; the charges against him were dropped by prosecutors earlier in October.

Even politicians are not immune from hate speech investigations. A Vienna prosecutor is currently looking into charges against FPÖ leader Heinz-Christian Strache over posts made on his Facebook page by other users that may be deemed inflammatory by Austrian law. The prosecutor is looking into whether Mr. Strache or his staff could be liable for not removing offensive comments fast enough.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/10/25/editor-of-austrias-largest-paper-charged-with-hate-speech-over-migrant-article/
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October 28, 2016 2:28pm
- mikenmild
  
  It’s funny how those former Nazi countries went in for stringent hate speech laws. I wonder why?
  
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  October 28, 2016 6:42pm
  - EAD
    
    Perhaps the same reason America demanded as a price of entry into WWI that Britain pledge Palestine to become a Jewish States despite less than 10% of the population been from the tribe (The Balfour Declaration).
    
    Like the US and Britain, Germany is now a Zionist Occupied Government(ZOG)
    
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    October 28, 2016 6:56pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Take more than a few genocidal Nazis to eradicate the Jews, eh? Now how would a more modern National Socialist go about it?
      
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      October 28, 2016 7:41pm
Reid

During an interview with Bloomberg News, Democrat mega-donor George Soros openly admits that GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump will win the popular vote in a “landslide,” but says a President Hillary Clinton is already a “done deal.”

In the interview, the billionaire powerbroker Soros says with certainty that Trump will win the popular vote in the country, but says that won’t make him president because the Electoral College vote will go for Clinton.

When the interviewer asks if it’s a “done deal” for Clinton as president, Soros says “yes,” nodding his head. What does Soros know that We The People do not? Has the Electoral College already been “paid off” for Hillary, no matter what the popular result?

Vid here:

http://toprightnews.com/the-fix-is-in-george-soros-says-hillary-election-a-done-deal-despite-trump-landslide/

and

‘Make Soros happy’: Inside Clinton team’s mission to please billionaire VIP

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/27/make-soros-happy-inside-clinton-teams-mission-to-please-billionaire-vip.html

Disgusting, isn’t it. How can anyone at all possibly support her? WTF is the matter with those who do, don’t they know anything, don’t they have any ethics at all?
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October 28, 2016 2:35pm
- SPC
  
  The story is linked to 1 September about a prior interview with Bloomberg News – evidence of the quotes is not supplied.
  
  The only time Trump has led in the polls was during the Republican Convention.
  
  How anyone can “admit” that someone will win in the popular vote months before an election is beyond me.
  
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  October 28, 2016 2:54pm
  - Reid
    
    How anyone can “admit” that someone will win in the popular vote months before an election is beyond me.
    
    Lots of things seem to be beyond you SPC. Perhaps you should educate yourself.
    
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    October 28, 2016 5:09pm
Reid

Clinton headlined fundraiser for campaign group which gave $500,000 to wife of FBI boss who investigated her emails – and it’s closely linked to Hillary’s bid for power

DailyMail.com reveals just how closely linked Clinton is to PAC which gave massive donation to Virginia politician married to FBI deputy director

Common Good VA gave $500,000 to Jill McCabe whose husband Andrew ran probe into Clinton’s secret server which ended with no prosecution

PAC is controlled by Terry McAuliffe, Virginia governor and Clinton ultra-loyalist – and Hillary headlined fundraiser just before it gave McCabe cash

On top of that series of Clinton powerhouses have been on payroll of PAC including Robby Mook, her campaign manager

And Clinton family financiers poured cash into its coffers, including Doug Band, who was Bill Clinton’s closest aide

McCabe denies conflict of interest but one group said of $500,000 donation: ‘It looks like a payoff.’

Campaign won’t say if Clinton met Jill McCabe at fundraiser

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3876506/Hillary-Clinton-headlined-fundraiser-campaign-group-gave-500-000-wife-FBI-boss-investigated-emails-s-closely-linked-bid-power.html
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October 28, 2016 2:40pm
Manolo

Does anyone want to visit this hellhole Calais?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3880016/The-fall-Jungle-Apocalyptic-photos-rubble-remains-Calais-migrants-camp-thousands-called-home-past-two-years.html
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October 28, 2016 2:43pm
Reid

Huckabee slams Megyn Kelly. This is brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsw4rR7cCxU
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October 28, 2016 2:46pm
waikatogirl

48 year old Brisbane man in custody after a bus pulled into a bus stop where the man climbed into the bus, doused the driver with petrol and set him on fire.

Another nutter out and about!
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October 28, 2016 4:08pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Lone wolf nutter, most unusual, diversity uknow
  
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  October 28, 2016 5:54pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Allahu Akhbar
  
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  October 28, 2016 7:51pm
waikatogirl

Has anyone else noticed there seems to have been an increase on KB of posters being reported?

Have KB regulars changed from using their brilliant arguing skills of a different point of view, or have we been joined by more sensitive petals who don’t take kindly to others alternate views??

When there is no chance of reply to a comment, doesn’t that then become censorship??

Just asking…
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October 28, 2016 4:22pm
- Reid
  
  Has anyone else noticed there seems to have been an increase on KB of posters being reported?
  
  How do you know?
  
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  October 28, 2016 5:06pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Because it takes away the reply button and does not let you reply to the persons comment
    
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    October 28, 2016 7:23pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Waikatogirl:
  
  I’ve never clicked the “report” button.
  
  My recollection is that when DPF introduced the feature, he said that a comment will be removed after a certain number of people “report” it. I think the magic number is 4 people.
  
  It’s different from a comment that has a net 30 downticks, as that comment is simply hidden from view, so you can still click on the content to view it.
  
  That’s my understanding anyway.
  
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  October 28, 2016 5:06pm
  - Reid
    
    Did he say anything about serial reporting Nosty?
    
    Just I have a clever idea, about stephie…
    
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    October 28, 2016 5:11pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Reid:
      
      I’m using my cellphone but I’ve found the link:
      
      http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2014/09/an_easier_way_to_report_comments.html
      
      It turns out the magic number is 5 people. And, yes, DPF warned people not to repeatedly abuse the feature or he’ll suspend their account.
      
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      October 28, 2016 5:19pm
      - Reid
        
        Damn.
        
        I wish I had your memory BTW. It constantly amazes me.
        
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        October 28, 2016 5:23pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Is there a fat finger and small device tolerance?
        
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        October 28, 2016 5:56pm
      - Reid
        
        That’s a very good question Paulus.
        
        Why do I feel like sticking my little finger into the side of my mouth?
        
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        October 28, 2016 6:52pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Thanks for that Nostradamus. I may well be wrong?
    
    I don’t find it necessary to REPORT anyone either. If I disagree I either reply or move on and keep my opinion to myself.
    
    I laugh at how irate some get.
    As the saying goes, There isn’t anything so as odd as folk!
    
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    October 28, 2016 6:44pm
    - Jack5
      
      Waikatogirl, as you go from “reply” to “reply to reply” to “reply to reply to reply” the wording at the bottom suddenly changes. “Reply” is finally dropped and “report” is where “reply” is higher up the branches.
      
      At this bottom level of replies, I have more than once carelessly hit “report” when my fingers were supposed to be hitting “reply”.
      
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      October 28, 2016 10:47pm
      - Jack5
        
        Here’s an example, the “reply” button below has gone and where it was is “report”.
        
        The problem could be solved by putting “reply and “report” further apart, and in the last branch, such as this one, where there is no longer “reply”, siting “report” to the right.
        
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        October 28, 2016 10:49pm
- SPC
  
  Quite. Once I was going to add a postscript to one of my comments, but hit report and was then unable to. The second time I have “reported”, can’t remember who the other victim of a misjab was.
  
  One suspects many of the reports are misjabs and DPF is left wondering why the posts have been reported.
  
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  October 28, 2016 7:39pm
  - SPC
    
    New info – One suspects many of the reports are misjabs and DPF is right to require 5 reports to take note
    
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    October 28, 2016 7:44pm
Inandout

Can’t be long before Hillary reaches into the very depth of her bag of ‘scandals’ and brings out something down and dirty on Trump. Did Donald really rape the female occupants of an entire New England village? She must be getting a tad desperate that she is not sprinting ahead in the polls.
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October 28, 2016 4:35pm
Reid

Good analysis by The Saker on the rationale for the Russian task force deployment to Syria.

http://thesaker.is/making-sense-of-the-russian-naval-task-force-off-the-coast-of-syria/
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October 28, 2016 5:05pm
- Pateke
  
  Thanks for that. most interesting
  
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  October 28, 2016 6:55pm
  - Reid
    
    Syria to Russia is ominously looking to me like the Spanish Civil War was to the Nazi’s Pateke.
    
    Except this time the good guys are Russia and the bad guys are the US.
    
    Sadly, the sheeple are once again, standing by ready to play the useful idiot role and be slaughtered in their millions, as they always do.
    
    When will they learn, when will they ever learn?
    
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    October 28, 2016 7:05pm
Reid

Putin is currently speaking and answering questions at the annual Valdai Club.

The Valdai Club is a traditional venue for international experts to discuss global problems with senior Russian officials, beginning with the president. This year’s three-day gathering involves 130 foreign visitors from 35 countries.

In addition to Putin, the host party includes Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, his deputy for the Middle East and Africa, Mikhail Bogdanov, Deputy Prime Minister in Charge of the Economy Igor Shuvalov, and other officials.

The Valdai Club has been held annually since 2004.

The Russian president is the key speaker of the panel. Sitting alongside him are Tarja Halonen, former president of Finland, Heinz Fischer, former federal president of Austria, and Thabo Mbeki, former president of South Africa. The panel is moderated by Timothy Colton, professor of government and Russian studies, Harvard University.

You won’t find weaklings like Obongo nor morons like Bush 43 holding events like these, where they publicly, on video, answer anything and everything. Anyone who is interested in who Putin is, what Russia is and why it does what it is doing should be interested. Of course if you’re a mere sheeple, too thick to understand and soaked in Western pap thus more obsessed with the latest bimbo meanderings fed to you from your very own 4th Estate then you not only won’t be interested, you won’t even understand it. But if you’re not one of those power-dummies, this is worth looking at. RT hasn’t posted the vids yet, this is their live blog version, so suggest you scroll down till you get to the beginning and read up.

https://www.rt.com/news/364315-putin-valdai-club-updates/
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October 28, 2016 5:45pm
- mikenmild
  
  Putin does it so well and is so popular that it is probably only a few years until we see free elections in Russia.
  
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  October 28, 2016 6:45pm
  - Reid
    
    Geopolitics really isn’t your strongpoint is it mm.
    
    What is your strongpoint, BTW?
    
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    October 28, 2016 6:56pm
Reid

Imagine, Donald Trump would accede to the US Presidency, an unlikely event with the presstitute media relentlessly slamming, slashing and demonizing him, not unlike they do with President Putin – while cheering no-end for the warmonger Killary, no matter what atrocities she has on her hands and body, no matter that blood is dripping out of her mouth every time she opens it – like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Palestine, Afghanistan, Sudan – and more, much more. They, the elite, the military-security complex, the financial mafia, want more blood, more than is already covering the entire current Obama Administration’s structure of psychopaths. Blood is weapons, blood is money, blood is more profit, blood is good for business… But just for a moment, let’s assume, Trump would get elected with such a large margin that voter fraud would be difficult to manage…

…Trump is sending a different narrative from that of eternal war. Trump seems to be looking into a different direction. He essentially says – stop the conflict with Russia… stop outsourcing jobs, bring them back, give labor back to Americans, slash the unemployment rate – which is, of course, everybody knows, way above the silly fabricated 5% [but] hovering between 22% and 25%, a real hammer for the economy, increasing anger and unhappiness and crime. Trump also says in the same vein as bringing back jobs – STOP globalization, restrain NATO, rein in the banks – yes, Wall Street, the Goldman Sachs-es and Co. of this world…Trump says, let’s have a financial system that works for the people.

Does he mean it? – I don’t know. Could be true. Most of what he says makes sense for America, for Americans – and by extension for much of the rest of the world, especially Europe, the genuine Europe, not the puppet-commandeered Europe. He also says a lot of outright discriminatory and xenophobic rubbish – like building a wall separating Mexico from the US of A, emulating Israel; and propagates a crackdown on Moslems. Does he mean it? Or does he want to please potential voters? – Such statements are indeed dangerous rubbish, but they are secondary to all the other things that are PRIORITARY, as they would help restore American society, workforce, dignity – most important: DIGNITY. Dignity is important for Americans to wake up to realize that they are living in a country that wastes their money, the peoples’ resources – on countless criminal wars around the world, feverishly racing towards Full Spectrum Dominance to benefit a few. The secondary stuff is important too, but can be dealt with in parallel by Americans that have come to senses…

http://thesaker.is/trump-and-the-power-of-money/
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October 28, 2016 7:30pm
- nasska
  
  Good (7.30pm) comment Reid…..I hope you’re right.
  
  But re your 5.45pm. Surely you are not suggesting that we believe more than small proportion of what Putin speaks.
  
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  October 28, 2016 7:36pm
  - Reid
    
    Assess it how you like mate, my main point was, you’ll never see the same interrogatory from any POTUS and that mere fact alone should make every Westerner question the system we’re all living in.
    
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    October 28, 2016 7:40pm
Reid

Trump’s Foreign Policy Is Sane While Clinton’s Is Belligerent

U.S. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said on Tuesday that Democrat Hillary Clinton’s plan for Syria would “lead to World War Three,” because of the potential for conflict with military forces from nuclear-armed Russia.

In an interview focused largely on foreign policy, Trump said defeating Islamic State is a higher priority than persuading Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down,..

Trump questioned how Clinton would negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin after demonizing him; blamed President Barack Obama for a downturn in U.S. relations with the Philippines under its new president, Rodrigo Duterte;…

Trump’s foreign policy talk is far more sane than Clinton’s and her camp’s. It is ludicrous to even think about openly attacking Russian (or Syrian) troops in Syria with an al-Qaeda supporting “no-Fly-Zone”.

The U.S. could respond by destroying all Russian assets in and around Syria. It has the capabilities. But then what?

“What we should do is focus on ISIS. We should not be focusing on Syria,” said Trump. “You’re going to end up in World War Three over Syria if we listen to Hillary Clinton.

“You’re not fighting Syria any more, you’re fighting Syria, Russia and Iran, all right? Russia is a nuclear country, but a country where the nukes work as opposed to other countries that talk,” he said.
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On Russia, Trump again knocked Clinton’s handling of U.S.-Russian relations while secretary of state and said her harsh criticism of Putin raised questions about “how she is going to go back and negotiate with this man who she has made to be so evil,” if she wins the presidency.

On the deterioration of ties with the Philippines, Trump aimed his criticism at Obama, saying the president “wants to focus on his golf game” rather than engage with world leaders.

The last two points are important. Trump, despite all his bluster, knows about decency. What is the point of arrogantly scolding negotiation partner who have the power to block agreements you want or need?

Why blame Russia for hacking wide open email servers when no Russian speakers were involved? Why blame Duterte? It is the U.S. that has a long history of violent racism in the Philippines and FBI agents committed false flag “terrorism” is Duterte’s home town Davao. Bluster may paper over such history for a moment but it does not change the facts or helps solving problems.

The points above may be obvious and one might be tempted to just pass them and dig into some nig-nagging of this or that election detail. But the above points are THE most important of any election. The welfare of the people is not decided with some “liberal” concession to this or that niche of the general society. The big issues count the most. Good or evil flow from them. Trumps principle, and I think personal position, is leaning towards peaceful resolution of conflicts. Clinton’s preference is clearly, as her history shows, escalation and general belligerence. It is too risky to vote for her.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/10/trumps-foreign-policy-is-sane-while-clintons-is-belligerent-.html#comments
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October 28, 2016 8:44pm
Scott Chris

Apparently there’s a new Putin calendar out for 2017
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October 28, 2016 9:17pm
nasska

I’ve just bought the hardback edition of Hillary Clinton’s memoir, ‘Hard Choices’. My advice would be to wait for the paperback.

The covers won’t be so rough on the cheeks of your arse.
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October 28, 2016 9:19pm
- stigie
  
  In the meantime Nasska i could send up your way some posh super soft easy to use butt tissues if that would ease the issue..?
  
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  October 28, 2016 9:36pm
  - nasska
    
    Your generosity & thoughtfulness is the stuff of legends stigie.
    
    If we were in prison I’d protect you in the showers. 🙂
    
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    October 28, 2016 9:41pm
    - stigie
      
      That’s what i like to see Nasska, taking a hard one for the team !~
      
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      October 28, 2016 9:45pm
Scott Chris

Yes there’s a new Putin Calendar out for 2017, really has Putin with a cute kitten for January pic. So cute.

February 2017 has Putin riding a pussycat bearback.

Uggh.

Go figure.
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October 28, 2016 9:26pm
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  You forgot the horses & dogs. It’s like a beginner’s guide to bestiality. 🙂
  
  https://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1093&bih=482&q=putin+2017+calendar&oq=putin+2017+&gs_l=img.1.0.0i24k1.1207.10829.0.14034.11.9.0.2.2.0.544.3984.4-4j4.8.0….0…1ac.1.64.img..1.10.3987…0j0i5i30k1.69leX0wB9z0
  
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  October 28, 2016 9:33pm
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    I wonder if Penny has considered modelling for a 2017 calendar to help pay her legal bills?
    
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    October 28, 2016 9:52pm
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      Gawd Nostra, now i need a fucking new keyboard..?
      
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      October 28, 2016 9:55pm
    - Scott Chris
      
      Ask her for her room number Nostradamus. You seem quite obsessed.
      
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      October 28, 2016 9:56pm
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        And you seem to lack a sense of humour.
        
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        October 28, 2016 9:59pm
      - Scott Chris
        
        Possibly, or you’re in denial of your love for Penny Bright.
        
        One or the other.
        
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        October 28, 2016 10:03pm
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        And that’s what it’s all about Nostra, having a sense of humour !~
        
        https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTs407ek4H9QIvSUB2KdxT4aEKzqGr6gxOG7OcQpZfKAqYEPPDD
        
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        October 28, 2016 10:03pm
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        If the occasional comment about Penny indicates a love interest, then judging by the number of comments about her on Kiwiblog, she’s got an army of lovers. (And you’ve got Starboard.)
        
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        October 28, 2016 10:09pm
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        Yes, and the School Rd residence could be Penny’s Place of Pleasure and Pain !~
        
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        October 28, 2016 10:15pm
- Reid
  
  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=obama+girly+images&t=h_&ia=images&iax=1
  
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  October 28, 2016 9:52pm
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    I wish our western leaders were as overtly masculine as Putin. Maybe it doesn’t play so well with people who get to vote for their leaders?
    
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    October 28, 2016 10:18pm
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    Hi Reid, so you image google girly obama?
    
    Nice debate mate. I know you Reid, you can string a decent sentence together.
    
    I don’t understand where you place your faith. May as well be the devil Hillary.
    
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    October 28, 2016 10:18pm
    - Reid
      
      When it’s a choice between two potential devils Scott, I place my faith in neither, but I place my choice in the least likely of the two.
      
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      October 28, 2016 10:34pm
Manolo

If you thought you had seen it all:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-28/some-cities-want-their-immigrants-to-vote
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