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holysheet

Special peoples kaumatua says “P” taking is like genocide of his people.
“Genocide, the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group”
You can see a major Te tritty claim against the govt for not protecting the special people from this killing. Even when most of the dealing scum will be their own special rellies and bros.
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October 27, 2016 8:06am
- itstricky
  
  His hyperbole is different to when you/igm/wiseowl use it here to maximum effect?
  
  BTW, I believe it is called a ‘simile’. In case you were wondering.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:19am
- Notsofast
  
  Your post seems to support the negligence shown by the government in allowing P to replace Marijuana as the substance to abuse.
  
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  October 27, 2016 1:35pm
- sooty
  
  Darwin?
  
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  October 27, 2016 2:06pm
flipper

I am ambivalent (at this time anyway) about the euthanasia debate so I am NOT pushing a point of view. But the sham breath test check point issue raises wider questions that need URGENT attention, especially with Christmas only 7 weeks away.

There must be something really BAD in the water, or a Police culture that has taken hold in the Wellington Police region.

First it is their aggressive stance towards liquor re-licensing. The Polie attempts to usurp the legislative responsibilities of Council(s) is beyond understanding and has rightly drawn widespread criticism. It might well be construed as a serious criminal offence in that it sought to illegally pressure (blackmail, co-erce) business owners into changing ther hours. Now it is sham check points and the harassment of elderly folk over euthanasia matters.

All the standard bullshit about it being an operational matter is just that. In respect of liquor and Euthanasia, (not to mention burgs v 1 km over a dilly speed limit) Police are now acting like the old Sov Union ‘s “Sword and Shield of the Party” – the KGB.

If Bush is not prepared to get his rogue officers into line, then he must go. Better still would be a system of public directives whereby the Minister directs Police on particular issues, but must immediately publish all such directives in the media and The Gazette.

A KiwiBlog crusade????
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October 27, 2016 8:09am
- calendar girl
  
  Fully agree with you about some questionable Police tactics becoming apparent. The breath-testing of elderly people in the Wellington area for an ulterior purpose was a particularly chilling ‘operational deployment’.
  
  I have material doubts about your idea of Ministerial directives to the Police Commissioner, notwithstanding the publicity safeguards suggested. However, it’s important to have these matters discussed out in the open – thanks DPF.
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:39am
  - G152
    
    They got caught out this time.
    How many other times have these tactics been employed to the detriment of other law abiding groups?
    Must be the tactic has worked successfully on illegal groups
    
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    October 27, 2016 8:49am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      I was just coming to suggest no one complains when they do this to gang members at tangis or gatherings. While I don’t agree with the tactics used, it is a common intelligence gathering technique.
      
      Although people would be up in arms if the police were found to be covertly surveilling them too.
      
      The Police are on a hiding to nothing at the moment and we are only really hearing the pressers from the euthanasia support group.
      
      Perhaps there is a good reason for the police to be interested. Last thing we need is a secret granny killing society putting pressure on the elderly and sometimes unsupported members of our society.
      
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      October 27, 2016 9:23am
  - peterwn
    
    I think NZTA needs to investigate too – was the checkpoint set up by traffic police or general police – was it funded by the NZTA budget? Presumably no one failed the screening test let alone the booze bus or police station test, so if funded by TANZ would have been a waste of NZTA funding. If operated by general police officers, then why were they effectively working for NZTA instead of catching burglars?
    I perceive the euthanasia law is on its last legs – it is following in the path of now extinct prostitution, homosexuality and abortion laws. I remember a similar thing with old brothel keeping laws. Cops used the existence of condoms on brothel premises in support of brothel keeping charges with the result that many madams did not keep condoms there thus removing a barrier to spread of STD. It did not occur to thick Mr Plod that such a practice was crazy – the Commissioner should have directed his cops that in the interests of health and reducing costs of treating STD condoms were ‘off limits’ as evidence of brothel keeping.
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:04am
    - marquess
      
      it is following in the path of now extinct prostitution, homosexuality and abortion laws
      
      Careful peterwn, there’s a large percentage of kiwiblog commenters who would love to see these laws reintroducted…
      
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      October 27, 2016 9:11am
      - peterwn
        
        How large? Probably just a handful of those who make lots of noise. It is just like when MSM report that ‘pressure is mounting’ when the ‘pressure’ is from a noisy minority rabble. The anti-abortion brigade have realised it is a lost cause trying to persuade Parliament to turn the clock back on abortion laws, so they are stuck with trying to take convoluted cases to the courts or harassing patients as they enter hospitals.
        
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        October 27, 2016 10:50am
Paulus

I Had an Epiphany – let me enlighten
Assume a country we know and love .
Thee Prime Minister is retiring.
The new probable Prime Minister is ahead on the polls – mostly paid for by the party and the Unions.
This person is seriously guilty of criminal fraud and conspiracy. Irrefutable information is available.
When referred to the Authorities, we will call him/her the Solicitor General declares “nothing to see here – move on”.
It is then shown that this law officer via family has received considerable money from the party funds.
The junior officers of this department are furious that what is a prima facie case for serious prosecution are overrule by their corrupt boss.
The outgoing Prime Minister is of course party to this criminal conspiracy as they are involved anyway and this would show that the corruption was endemic.
What would the media do in this case – lay down on their backs open their legs and say it is the oppositions fault anyway.
Don’t know where this country actually is ?
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October 27, 2016 8:11am
- Inandout
  
  I would tell the authorities about your dream.
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:15am
  - Paulus
    
    And they would say – “move on nothing to see here !”
    We are dealing with little old ladies who went to an Euthanasia tea party.
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:06am
- holysheet
  
  sorry fat fingers hit the report button.
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:15am
- freethinker
  
  Just a guess perhaps you are dreaming of the Director of the FBI in the US????????
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:06am
  - peterwn
    
    I have a further dream – the Police Commissioner knows the dirt on all main political leaders such as they are too scared to try and bring the Commissioner and his cops into line.
    Nah! Perhaps I was dreaming of J Edgar.
    
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    October 27, 2016 10:54am
    - holysheet
      
      if there was any dirt on JK, you can be sure liabore would have found it by now. Remember Mike Williams and co going overseas for Helen to try and get dirt, all for nought.
      
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      October 27, 2016 12:12pm
- Gabby
  
  Smells bad alright. Early Haggyman bad. Stinks to high heaven.
  
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  October 27, 2016 12:07pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    I hope Earl sues the arse off you for that statement.
    
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    October 27, 2016 1:17pm
    - Gabby
      
      Have you got a ridiculous black wig for that withered scrotum? It would still look ancient mind.
      
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      October 27, 2016 5:20pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Just to clarify, you do understand this right?
        
        humour: noun
        
        “the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech”
        
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        October 27, 2016 5:56pm
Manolo

Inside the Clinton Mafia:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/her-instincts-can-be-terrible-wikileaks-reveals-fears-and-frustrations-inside-clinton-world/2016/10/25/a6ceefdc-9ae0-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html
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October 27, 2016 8:11am
- SPC
  
  MSM keeping you informed
  
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  October 27, 2016 1:17pm
Manolo

The aging philanderer laughed all the way to the bank while his crooked missus claimed they were broke:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/26/bill-clinton-inc-email-details-how-top-aides-helped-make-ex-president-rich.html

One of Bill Clinton’s closest confidants outlined in a lengthy 2011 memo how he and another aide helped secure at least $50 million in speaking fees and other ventures for the former president – in addition to raising “the bulk” of funds for the controversial Clinton Foundation.
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October 27, 2016 8:15am
kowtow

More middle class “justice” , he’s been discharged so he can continue his studies.

“A Chinese PhD student attacked his wife and threatened to send her back to China all because she did not refuel his car, a court has heard.

Guangbing Xiao (31), at present studying computer systems networking and telecommunications at the University of Otago, pleaded guilty to a charge of male assaults female yesterday.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11718207
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October 27, 2016 8:34am
- Reid
  
  I trust immigration will decline his PR application him once he finishes, it will be interesting to see what happens, who knows, since it’s the ODT’s turf they might even report the upshot in several years time.
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:38am
Reid

Here’s another Hagar breathless special publishing confidential material stolen from a small NZ company that builds hardware and software used by govt communications agencies, telcos and banks.

I’m just not sure what the point is since this will almost certainly destroy the company and all it demonstrates is what everyone already knows anyway, which is that the interweb is vacuumed and everyone’s data is captured and stored. I mean, so what, this is not news. And another NZ enterprise bites the dust, courtesy of Hagar. (And yes, I know how to spell Hager, I just prefer the alternate.)

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/23/endace-mass-surveillance-gchq-governments/?comments=1#comments
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October 27, 2016 8:34am
- cmm
  
  Oh the irony…
  
  That Hager, who lives by spying, should complain about spying…
  
  Isn’t Hagar one of the “journalists” who thinks the government should pay all “journalists” so that they can keep going regardless of free market principles? If so, then damaging businesses is biting the hand that he wants to be fed by. Silly move!
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:55am
  - itstricky
    
    I guess you two will be renoucing Wikileaks, then?
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:17am
    - cmm
      
      I’m no big Wikileaks fan.
      
      I’m not aware of Wikileaks demanding they get taxpayer funding though…
      
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      October 27, 2016 9:31am
    - Reid
      
      Assange is CIA tricky, as is Snowden. The only group I currently trust is Anonymous. However just because certain groups have those ties doesn’t mean everything they do and publish, is false. If you know what you’re doing one can sort wheat from chaff.
      
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      October 27, 2016 9:44am
      - SPC
        
        Hard to read your certainty about things you do not know without LOL
        
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        October 27, 2016 1:20pm
      - Reid
        
        Of course if I read something like that then naturally I test what I read against the reality of the subject’s behaviour and see if it fits and sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t and I draw conclusions accordingly.
        
        Some people however appear to decide the answer in advance and then when they read something which contradicts their chosen decision they refuse to look into it. Indeed some people don’t even know this is what they do since such decisions can be taken subconsciously and often are, in all sorts of areas. Unless of course the subject knows how the mind works in this regard in which case such questions as this can be surfaced and you can deal with matters knowingly, logically and truthfully taking all facts into consideration and leaving all emotions at the door. Which is important because the more significant the question is the more emotion is involved by the subconscious in keeping the fact it’s already made its decision for you, from you.
        
        So a trivial thing like wikileaks-CIA-or-not is hardly at all emotional but something like 911 much more so since if 911 wasn’t what the (lying) media claim it was then all sorts of things about one’s world need to be recalculated. Which is why most people have absolutely no idea what really happened that day, because they don’t want the truth, because they can’t handle it.
        
        Sad, isn’t it. For them.
        
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        October 27, 2016 2:38pm
      - SPC
        
        There is no evidence that Assange or Snowden is CIA.
        
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        October 27, 2016 2:44pm
      - Reid
        
        No SPC, the fact is, just because you are not aware of any doesn’t mean there isn’t any. And don’t bother asking me to show you where it is, because you need an open mind and you’ve demonstrated frequently you don’t have it for the abovementioned reasons, so there’s no point me showing it to you. When you get an open mind then you’ll find it if you’re still interested in the question, that’s how the universe works, but your mind needs opening first and I can’t help you there, you need to do that yourself.
        
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        October 27, 2016 4:13pm
- James Stephenson
  
  Thanks for that link, Reid. I’ve dealt with Endace a couple of times in the course of my professional life and I knew they were a bunch of pretty smart guys, but if it’s true that they’re selling intelligence-gathering kit to the Israelis then they really are in the very top drawer.
  
  Bloody well done, Endace.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:08am
  - Reid
    
    Yeah that’s my rating too James. I’ve often wondered why NZ doesn’t get into things like anti-missile radar systems and such. I’d be less comfortable as a Christian with pointy-kill zone tech but as a hawk I have no issues with defensive systems and I think with NZ’s No. 8 mentality which we still have in our DNA, we could do quite well, if only because we could build equal quality for half the cost. And that’s a huge industry out there, just waiting for someone like us.
    
    But here’s the thing, it won’t happen without govt direction and you get into the whole picking winners thing that people who don’t understand economics have against undertaking that path. Because you need education systems geared to produce grads with the skills as well as intensive capital investment for the necessary R&D and what people who don’t understand economics don’t get is that in a place like here that’s never going to happen becuase it’s too small to generate and bring together all the necessary components, so you need some leadership to give the impetus.
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:49am
Happychappy

I am waiting to hear Labour’s take on Pumpkin Patch or have they found that it is not possible to connect John Key to the demise of this Company
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October 27, 2016 8:47am
- cmm
  
  John Key had a vasectomy, therefore no more kids in the Key household, therefore less baby clothes, therefore hard working Kiwis are out of a job.
  
  Not good enough! Kiwis deserve better!
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:57am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Not to mention all the babies that John Key and his rich Tory mates eat, thus reducing the demand for children’s clothing.
    
    See Happychappy; it’s easy to blame John Key if you try!
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:11am
  - Fletch
    
    I keep on imagining John’s son Max marrying someone called Anna, them having twin sons, and having a reality show called, The Sons Of Anna Key 😉
    
    (They start their own biker gang later on).
    
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    October 27, 2016 11:14am
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/85776495/hit-and-run-victim-on-the-improve-but-still-in-hospital

First thing he asks for is KFC…. Head injuries are bad!

When one of my sons was concussed playing sports a few years back, the Doc asked him various questions to see what he could remember. Doc asked what version of Windows he has on his computer: son said Vista.

Other son said: Geez, he’s much worse than I thought.
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October 27, 2016 8:49am
Scott

Keeping a very close eye on the polls – Rasmussen poll has Clinton up by one,the LA Times poll Trump up by one, the real clear politics average showing Clinton up by 5.Remember the real clear politics average includes the incredible outlier ABC poll which has Clinton up by 12. The race is tightening folks. If it’s very close come November 8 then Trump will win. He is the insurgent outsider and it’s an outsider year.

He just needs to stay disciplined (how many times have I said that) and concentrate on the issues and hammer Hillary all day long.

No doubt the dirty tricks department of the DNC will try and derail him. Probably a bit more difficult now that Obama and Clinton and DNC black operations operative Bob Creamer has been let go but still very likely.

Lastly I saw a reporter from CNN hassling Trump press secretary Kelly Anne Conway to urge Trump to not incite violence against young reporters covering his events. Kelly Anne Conway replied very graciously as she does.

But what she could have said was that CNN should tell the Clinton campaign not to incite any more violence at Trump rallies. The only violence at Trump rallies comes from paid Democratic operatives. WikiLeaks has made that crystal clear.
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October 27, 2016 8:53am
- holysheet
  
  Trump will be the winner come voting day. All this polling is glossing over the real voters opinions. Remember the polling and brexit. How could they be so wrong.
  Another Katie Bradford moment, “despite all the shit we dish out, the public takes no notice”
  Here’s a new idea, ” the public take no notice of polls anymore”
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:05am
  - Reid
    
    It’s proportional to their distrust in the media. As that falls so does their trust in the polls because they associate the two. There’s actually a massive market opportunity for some company like Curia to enter the US market because they would be seen as untainted and would carry with them some of NZ’s Swiss-like perception. Provided of course they don’t involve themselves with the US media because they’re poison.
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:13am
  - Gabby
    
    When did Bradford say that agan? That claim may be wholly shit.
    
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    October 27, 2016 12:05pm
    - Sideoiler
      
      Katie Bradford TVNZ breakfast, September 5th 2014.
      
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      October 27, 2016 12:24pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        Can I attempt to make some sense of her bs ?
        Maybe . . . she was trying to say it wouldn’t matter what anyone said or did good or bad such is the National party popularity, they are untouchable in the polls.
        Either that or she’s an anti-National mouthpiece.
        I’m guessing it’s just another inarticulate second rate TV bobble head.
        
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        October 28, 2016 2:14am
    - srylands
      
      It is real. I remember it vividly.
      
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      October 27, 2016 1:03pm
    - holysheet
      
      See Gobby, us old farts remember far more than you think.
      
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      October 27, 2016 3:23pm
- cmm
  
  Trump has been successfully running hotels and casinos for years. He has also run highly successful TV programs.
  
  In those businesses you have to be able to understand what the customers want and be able to deliver it.
  
  Running for Prez is really no different.
  
  In comparason, Clinton has lived in government her whole life. She has never really had to deal with what people want because her job is not in the free market. She is used to doing what she wants and telling people to shut up and do her bidding. That does not work if you’re trying to win votes.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:20am
- SPC
  
  The only violence comes from … what people choose to belief LOL.
  
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  October 27, 2016 1:22pm
Reid

The GOP nominee is off to a huge– in fact, historic — start.

Trump leads Clinton by 120,000 votes — the first Republican candidate to EVER lead in early voting in Florida.

http://endingthefed.com/early-presidential-votes-from-florida-are-in-and-the-results-are.html

Killary’s job is to make it close enough so the rigging isn’t obvious, and this time their real polling has been showing them she is way off the mark. Which is why the lamestream media have been so vigorously publishing sample-biased poll after poll after poll, to seed the ground so that when the final count is so against the exit polls the sheeple have something to hold onto to “explain” this apparent “anomaly.”

So let’s see what happens, shall we?
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October 27, 2016 8:59am
- EAD
  
  Indeed Reid – the people who control the MSM might be in for a HUGE shock
  
  Michael Moore: “Trump’s Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History”
  
  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-25/michael-moore-trumps-election-will-be-biggest-fuck-you-ever-recorded-human-history
  
  Always this Marxist assumption though that the working class only ever revolts because of economic reasons. That they couldn’t possibly care about identity, cohesion, culture, kin and hearth.
  
  Why does this ridiculous idea still maintain such a grip on people who should know better?
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:16am
  - Reid
    
    Why does this ridiculous idea still maintain such a grip on people who should know better?
    
    Many do know but they have an agenda passed down by their masters and non-adherence means goodbye to the massive salaries because being booted out for that from one organisation means being blacklisted amongst all others. Then you have the vast majority of journalists who have no idea they’re being played like violins because the masters aren’t stupid, they’ve designed things so their agenda is cloaked in things that appeal to the things the useful idiots care about and can relate to. So for instance the leftist human wights journalists who are in the game to “make a difference” genuinely believe their endless braying about all things for instance, gay, really will make the world a better place. Economic journalists really do believe Hayek’s economics personified by Reagan, Thatcher and the Chicago School really are the right way to go. Foreign Affairs journalists really do believe Russia is attempting to re-establish its communist past, and so on and so forth.
    
    I know you already know all of that, but the sheeple don’t. The sheeple hallucinate that the agenda you and I know about and which really does exist couldn’t possibly exist because if it did tens if not hundreds of thousands if not millions of people would all need to be involved and one of them would surely talk, but (in their mistaken mindset) none of them ever have talked so therefore it doesn’t exist.
    
    But as we both know EAD, not only have many of them talked but the sheeple simply haven’t listened because they “already know the answer.” But in addition to that, that dynamic of the useful idiot I outlined in just journalism but the same dynamic exists in politics, finance, banking, the military, bureacracy in general, education and many other fields, means that in fact, all you need are key people in key positions and everything else falls into place. For instance, in the Killary email prosecution, all they needed was Lynch and Comey. All their respective investigation teams, who weren’t involved at all in this conspiracy to acquit, simply fell into line per the agenda. That’s how it works, sheeple.
    
    Sad thing is EAD, as we both know, you can show sheeple the truth, but you can’t make them see it.
    
    I hope some of them who have woken up during this election to what and who Killary really is transpose that revelation to other areas such as: is Wussia weally the bad guy? If the media lies and lies about Killary, why shouldn’t they also lie about Wussia? I hope some of the recently awoken do that. I’m not holding my breath mind you, their programming has been centuries in the making and really, I suspect that most of them will only wake up when they suffer personal calamity as a result of the agenda. That’s why it’s sad.
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:40am
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      scroll scroll scroll scroll, what’s this ? Who is it ? Oh, Reid. Sheeple – aha – gotcha.
      What’s cmm saying ? That’s more like it – no sheeple and I don’t know – I stayed awake right from ‘Time’ to ‘paddy’ no trouble. Uptick.
      
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      October 28, 2016 2:20am
- cmm
  
  Time for Clinton to throw another “Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?” paddy.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:35am
- waripori
  
  You might turn out to be right Reid but you should check your sources. Your story is using data from September and was published October 5th. Early voting has just started in Florida. My understanding is Republicans always lead in mail ballots in Florida but this year not so much.
  
  http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-clinton-early-voting-230315
  
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  October 27, 2016 12:07pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    You need to be a little careful with early voting because the data only records receipt of a ballot from a registered voter, not what the vote actually is. In other elections you could reasonably project from that on an expection of voting being in line with party affiliation.
    
    But with two very polarising candidates, the percentage of Republicans voting Democrat and vice-versa may be much higher than in other elections. It’s just a question of how much they cancel each other out. Which way the Independents go will likely determine FL.
    
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    October 27, 2016 1:44pm
Reid

Images That Tell The Story As We Near The Final Crossroads
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October 27, 2016 9:07am
- Ross12
  
  Very ,very good Reid.
  
  I read yesterday that Trump has a good chance of getting the highest number of African American votes by a GOP candidate since 1960. Currently polling around 18-20%. Will speak volumes if that turns out to be correct in the final count.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:45am
  - GoVege
    
    I’m afraid there are a lot of sexists among Afro American males…would explain that.
    
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    October 27, 2016 3:11pm
Scott

Now we all know that Trump can be obnoxious and crude at times on the campaign trail.

However Hillary in private has got a whole new level of nastiness.

Apparently she was so vile to her secret service agents who were sworn to protect her that by the end they couldn’t get anyone to volunteer to be on her security detail.

Check out the link but this exchange stands out to me –

“Good morning,” an Arkansas state trooper said to Clinton, according to American Evita, by Christopher Andersen, a former contributing editor with Time magazine.

“F*** off!” Hillary told him and his fellow bodyguards. “It’s enough I have to see you s***-kickers every day! I’m not going to talk to you, too! Just do your goddam job and keep your mouth shut.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441367/hillary-clinton-security-detail-curses-foul-mouth
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October 27, 2016 9:13am
- Rich Prick
  
  My personal favourite:
  
  Where’s the miserable c**k sucker?” (otherwise known as “Bill Clinton”) Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer.
  
  I guess she really does wear the pants(uit).
  
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  October 27, 2016 11:31am
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    Bill apparently used to call her “The Warden” according to one of his former lovers.
    
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    October 27, 2016 4:21pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  I don’t know – I thought she was a boring muppet. That turns me on a bit (a lot).
  
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  October 28, 2016 2:22am
freethinker

I notice that yesterday 3 Italian Banks were suspended and today Deutsch Bank reveals its 3rd quarter results and the European press are all over this with fears of the Italian PM telling the odious Junker and his corrupt co conspirators in the EU Commission that he will do what is best for Italy and they can get F***ed. I don’t notice any mention of this in the NZ media – perhaps they have failed to pay their Reuters and Internet subscription. Plenty of reporting on Cricket, theme park accidents etc but nothing on world events which may affect Billions of people globally, no wonder terrestrial TV& Newspapers are failing!
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October 27, 2016 9:14am
- Reid
  
  No, no mention at all. Deutsh Bank’s in big trouble with its derivatives and if it goes it takes the ECB with it. You’d think that’d get the attention of the people who are paid to sit around and read about current affairs all day every day but evidently not. Perhaps they’ve published so much material about air-headed bimbos over the years they’ve all turned into one of them themselves through some kind of reverse osmosis process. That seems as a good an explanation as any.
  
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  October 27, 2016 11:14am
  - SPC
    
    How does it take the ECB with it?
    
    Germany has the resources to bail the bank out (if they want to) and so does the ECB (but why?).
    
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    October 27, 2016 2:02pm
    - Reid
      
      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-29/how-much-liquidity-deutsche-bank-has-moment-and-what-happens-next
      
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      October 27, 2016 4:28pm
- SPC
  
  3 were “suspended” in January.
  
  The EU ban on governments bailing out banks is up for subversion (especially now that the EU boss Germany is involved with one of their banks also vulnerable).
  
  http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21701756-italys-teetering-banks-will-be-europes-next-crisis-italian-job
  
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  October 27, 2016 2:13pm
Reid

The Presstitutes Have Set Up The Election To Be Stolen

Over the course of its history, the New York Times has reported on many American elections that have been rigged or stolen or are suspected of having been being rigged or stolen. For example, as a supporter of the black civil rights movement, the NY Times has many stories in its archives of elections rigged by disenfranchisement of black voters.

But this was when the NY Times was an independent voice before it became a whore for the Oligarchs who rule America. When the NY Times reported that black Americans could have no confidence in the integrity of American elections, the NY Times did not denounce itself for delegitimizing American democracy.

The NY Times forgot all of this when it published Max Fisher’s article yesterday. Fisher fished up “scholars” among the Hillary advocates, and they obligingly told him that Trump’s questioning of the integrity of American elections were the tactics of a would-be dictator who is at work delegitimizing democracy so that he can take over.

What Fisher and his “scholars” overlook is that the US government is already delegitimized in the eyes of the American population, as well as foreign populations. If the US government was not already delegitimized, Donald Trump would not have been successful in what, despite Trump’s damnation by the presstitutes, was an easy sweep-aside of the Establishment’s candidates for the Republican presidential nomination.

The US government is delegitimized, not only in the eyes of Americans, but also in the eyes of most of the world. Millions of Americans have lost their jobs, their careers, their hopes, because corrupt bought-and-paid-for-Washington enabled Globalism to send the futures of the American people to China and India. Millions of Americans lost their homes, because the corrupt Federal Reserve came down on the side of five “banks too big to fail” at the expense of the American people. Millions of Americans along with much of the world know that the US government has been slaughtering millions of peoples in seven countries based on lies, wasting not only countries and the lives of millions of peoples, but trillions of American dollars that Americans needed for their welfare. Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction. Assad did not use chemical weapons. Gaddafi was innocent of all the absurd charges that Washington used to destroy Libya, a country that had the most progressive social system on earth. Russia did not invade Ukraine. The Taliban had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. Yet countries are in ruins because of Washington’s war crimes justified by transparent lies.

If the NY Times does not know this, the organization is too stupid to justify its existence. Of course the Times knows it. But the NY Times is no longer a newspaper. It is a cog in the Ministry of Propaganda that works to create a Matrix in which brainwashed Americans accept the dictates of the Oligarchs.

The purpose of the Times’ article is to discredit in advance criticism of an election that the ruling Oligarchs intend to steal. If the Times believed that Hillary would have a clear election victory, there would be no point to Fisher’s article.

We see voluminous signs of the intended theft of the election…

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/10/24/election-potpourri-paul-craig-roberts/
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October 27, 2016 9:18am
Scott

This is also very interesting from National Review about Trump. Although National Review is a right-wing publication up to this point it has been leading the never Trump movement.

Having finally taken a breath, looked around and seen how terrible a Hillary presidency would actually be they have taken a fresh look at Trump’s agenda. Their overall analysis – pretty darn good-

“But Hillary’s entire reign would be a needless and easily avoided tragedy. On balance, Trump’s Contract with the American Voter is the most promising manifesto for genuine conservative reform in a generation. It represents a major opportunity to get things right, after 16 years of bipartisan democratic socialism under G. W. Bush and Obama.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441458/donald-trump-contract-american-voter-gettysburg-address
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October 27, 2016 9:21am
Happychappy

I see that the CTU economist has come out questioning our right to be the number one Country in the World in ease to do Business as it does not include workers rights in the calculation.This muppet should ask himself why unions don’t have the same membership as they had a decade ago as it is people like him with their negative comments like this that people have had a gutsful of
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October 27, 2016 9:26am
- AgentBallSack
  
  CTU economist –
  Offers you a shit and pretends it’s a rose.
  Problem is, when they’re handed a rose all they can smell is shit.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:46am
AgentBallSack

I don’t believe in God. But if there is one I hope he believes in schadenfreude and delivers a victory to Trump in November.

That would be hilarious!
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October 27, 2016 9:32am
- wiseowl
  
  You mean Hillaryious.
  
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  October 27, 2016 10:20am
- Reid
  
  I do believe in God but one thing a lot of people both believers and non-believers don’t seem to get about God is that He is not some sugar-daddy in the sky there to make things better. He allows dreadful things to happen such as all the wars up to and including Syria, Yemen etc not to mention earthquakes, famines and all the rest. And He always has.
  
  The Desiderata has a great line in it which to me sums it up beautifully:
  
  And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be.
  
  I think it’s quite likely He’ll allow Killary to enter, and if she does enter, I believe it’s going to end in a nuclear war. Which is why I’ve supported Trump since day one.
  
  However these days the nukes are not city-destroyers they’re people-destroyers – neutrino weapons, mostly. Some cities will be destroyed because of course they still have the megaton kill monsters but not all and the radiation is designed these days to disssipate realtively quickly.
  
  Another thing most people both believers and non-believers also don’t understand about God is that He has granted Satan control over this world. So if that does happen it’s not God’s doing, it’s Satan’s. God has permitted Satan this control because our lives here have a purpose but that purpose is not material but spiritual, and we build spiritual muscle by pushing against the evil Satan creates. So Satan is necessary for us to accomplish our purpose. And its up to each us to exercise folly or wisdom along that path and the extent to which we collectively practise either of those things brings about the outcomes we materially experience. And we always have the choice because that is what free will is about.
  
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  October 27, 2016 10:25am
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    Given Clinton is likely to win and a consequent nuclear war is unlikely, … expect this to be another demonstration of how free will allows people to believe things that are not so.
    
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    October 27, 2016 1:55pm
    - Reid
      
      I hope you’re right SPC, but I don’t think you are.
      
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      October 27, 2016 4:30pm
flipper

The Clinton Pug Pen ??????????????

Greg Jarrett is a JD first; Fox News reporter second.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/25/gregg-jarrett-perpetual-cloud-dirt-and-scandal-that-hovers-over-hillary-clinton.html
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October 27, 2016 9:46am
Manolo

A woman, a crook, for all seasons:
http://nypost.com/2016/10/26/hillary-claims-mexican-food-is-her-favorite-on-univision-show/
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October 27, 2016 9:49am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Hillarys Taco Bowl movement?
  
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  October 27, 2016 10:10am
Odakyu-sen

Many Japanese banks and government departments hope that Clinton will win. Better the Devil you know than the Devil you don’t. Many believe that Clinton will continue the policies of the Obama administration. Trump, on the other hand, is seen as a kind of “reset button.”
Nevertheless, I am sure some Japanese would like the Americans to push back from the defense table so that Japan can take on a greater role in this area.
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October 27, 2016 10:03am
- Reid
  
  So where does Japan sit with China vs the US in your view O-s? And do most Japanese know who Abe is and what he represents?
  
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  October 27, 2016 10:28am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Abe is well known as a “hawk” in Japan-China relations.
    Japan doesn’t like the way that China is throwing its weight around, and resents the way that China brings up Japan’s imperial crimes when (almost) all those involved are now dead.
    I don’t see what Japan can really do about China. The Chinese government are stereotyped by many Japanese as bullies and gamblers.
    In my opinion, it would be good for everyone if they would simply get along and help each other out.
    Relationships between Japan and the ROK have certainly improved in the last decade. K-Pop and Korean BBQ restaurants are commonplace nowadays, but were unheard of back in the 1990s.
    
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    October 27, 2016 10:54am
    - Reid
      
      Thanks for that O-s. So if Japan recognise Abe’s hawkish credentials, are the people with him? It’s just as you know the US is losing SE Asian allies left, right and centre as its pivot to China tanks, and Japan is really the last major hopeful the US has left if it wants to salvage anything at all. But that will involve eschewing the consitutional framework of the self-defence forces which Abe has been whittling away at since he came to power.
      
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      October 27, 2016 11:08am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        The US has held bases (many bases) on Japanese soil since the end of the Pacific War in 1945. I recall the US naval fighters routinely passing overhead because I lived under the flight path, south of Atsugi Base where they came from.
        I remember being invited to a July 4th party by an American friend who lived on the base. It was surreal, to sit in a Californian suburb, eat hot dogs and drink (good) Budweiser beer, while the suburbia of Atsugi, Japan, loomed beyond the perimeter fence. It really was a little chunk of the US right in the heart of Japan.
        Once the US returns these base land holdings to Japan, they are never going to get them back again.
        Many Japanese resent the US bases on their sovereign land. They will not be unhappy to see them go. I believe that in the long run, Japan will need to take care of its own interests in the world, albeit allied with its good friend and benefactor, the United States of America.
        
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        October 27, 2016 11:42am
Hugh Pavletich

WHY YOU SHOULD NOT BUY A HOUSE RIGHT NOW, SAYS AMP’s SHANE OLIVER … NEWS COM AU

http://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/buying/why-you-should-not-buy-a-house-right-now/news-story/12c1137d8ecf44deb3cd934c8d9b17d2

IF YOU are one of the growing number of Australians who thinks they will never be able to afford a house, listen up.

Leading housing commentator and AMP’s chief economist, Shane Oliver, has made a compelling argument as to why you should NOT buy a house right now. So sit back, relax and feel reassured that you are actually doing the smart thing by sticking to renting.

As a quick disclaimer, Mr Oliver told news.com.au that it is important not to generalise when it comes to housing affordability as in some parts of the country — Darwin and Perth in particular — prices have retreated back to where they were a decade ago. However, for the rest of Australia — particularly Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane — there are “several reasons” it is best to hold off getting onto the property ladder. … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 27, 2016 10:07am
- starboard
  
  Change the record Hugh, you are getting to the stage where you are about as appealing as the public watchdog.
  
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  October 27, 2016 10:46am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    RESIDENTIAL LOT COSTS
    UNITED STATES v AUSTRALIA
    
    ??? $US45,000 v $A237,535 ???
    
    The great Australian land bubble bulges – MacroBusiness Australia
    … behind paywall …
    
    http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2016/10/great-australian-land-bubble-bulges/
    
    By Leith van Onselen
    The Housing Industry Association (HIA) has released its land sales report for the June quarter of 2016, which revealed yet another rise in vacant lot prices to a record high median of $237,535. However, there was a much-needed rebound in the number of land sales, although these were down over the year and fell heavily in Sydney and Melbourne.
    
    United States median serviced Lot prices $US45,000 …
    
    Low Supply Lifts Housing Lot Prices To a Record ($US45,000) – WSJ
    … google search title if blocked …
    
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/low-supply-lifts-housing-lot-prices-to-a-record-1470442821
    
    The prices home builders pay for single-family lots hit a record high in the U.S. last year, a sign that a scarce supply of developed land is pushing up the cost of new homes.
    
    Median single-family lot prices were $45,000 last year, surpassing the previous peak of $43,000 at the height of the housing boom in 2006, according to an analysis of the most recent census data by the National Association of Home Builders. …
    
    … Prices have hit record highs even as the typical lot has been shrinking. Median lot sizes for single-family homes last year dropped to 8,589 square feet (HP comment … 797.5 square metres), the lowest since the Census started consistently tracking the data in the early 1990s. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    LOT VALUES AT RECORD HIGH ($US45,000) … NAHB
    
    http://eyeonhousing.org/2016/07/lot-values-at-record-high/
    
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    October 27, 2016 12:08pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Repeat and repeat again. That’ll work Hugh.
      Not.
      
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      October 27, 2016 12:31pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        FOLLOWING AMP SHANE OLIVERS PERSPECTIVE …
        
        EXITING WITH MASSIVE BUBBLE MONEY … RIDE THE RENTS DOWN … WITH PRICES FOLLOWING … THEN BUY AT THE BOTTOM … !
        
        I am getting reports of numerous homeowners bailing Auckland with the huge bubble money … moving to (places such as) Christchurch and renting, where the rents are falling.
        
        Particularly those in or very near retirement.
        
        Christchurch rents have fallen about 8% this year.
        
        Current Christchurch median house price is about $420,000 … Auckland $820,000.
        
        Prices will follow rents down.
        
        One sees empty rentals all over Christchurch now … and of course increasing numbers of them week by week.
        
        A lot of the old rubbish … particularly in the East of Christchurch … will only be worth land value, less demolition costs. Essentially, the old rubbish will become unmarketable.
        
        The new build rates in Greater Christchurch are massive … with Selwyn County regularly in world record territory … consenting some months at the rate of about 30 units per 1000 population per annum.
        
        Remarkable.
        
        The idea is to stay renting in Christchurch for the next few years with falling rents … then buy when the market prices bottoms out.
        
        Understandably, they see it as a great way to set themselves up nicely in retirement … making the most of this rare opportunity before the Auckland bubble bursts.
        
        WHY BE DUM ? … WHY BE A VICTIM ? …
        
        New homes preferred over quake repaired houses | Stuff.co.nz
        
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/85347358/new-homes-preferred-over-quake-repaired-houses
        
        Rolleston: Time to take it seriously | Stuff.co.nz
        
        http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/83246929/rolleston-time-to-take-it-seriously
        
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        October 27, 2016 1:16pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      If you had to choose between reading this and watching Aaron Smith on the job at an airport . . .
      
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      October 28, 2016 2:27am
Tauhei Notts

America’s Brexit.
I read the press release from William Hill’s, the worldwide bookmaker.
The real big money is all on Clinton, just like it was for Remain back in June of this year.
A big majority of the individual bets, all of smaller denominations, are on Trump, just as it was for Brexit back in June.
It is the big big punters that have brought Clinton’s odds down as far as they are.
The big punters have one thing in common with the myriad of small punters; they each have one vote.
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October 27, 2016 10:14am
VicParking

It seems that if you or your friends come round to you State house and smoke P thats allright. Just so long as you dont cook it up in the kitchen.
I’m sorry any level of P recorded would mean you would be out on you ear as far as I’m concerned.
You are using a State house for criminal purposes or allowing a State house to be used for criminal purposes. Cant the MSM get that into their fat heads.
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October 27, 2016 10:43am
- Paulus
  
  Watch the shit fly if Housing Corpn have only done a minimum clean up and somebody’s health gets stuffed – particularly a child.
  
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  October 27, 2016 1:35pm
Manolo

Pay-for-play at its finest:
http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-aides-memo-details-ties-consulting-firm-clinton-foundation/

The 2011 memo, authored by Clinton confidante Doug Band, reveals for the first time the precise financial flows between the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, Band’s firm Teneo Consulting, and the Clinton family’s private business endeavors.
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October 27, 2016 10:45am
Stars And Stripes

Group calls for support for better diversity awareness in schools
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/85673843/group-calls-for-support-for-better-diversity-awareness-in-schools
“Advocates for minority sexualities and genders are calling on schools and social services to create safer environments for teens of all identities”.

So lets spend more time and money trying to cater for the freaks in society who don’t know which side their bread is buttered on.
Easier to send them to a shrink or get them to do a nightshift at the nearest public toilets and by morning I am sure they will have resolved their sexuality issues.
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October 27, 2016 10:48am
- GoVege
  
  That’s pretty mean, Stars and Stripes.
  It’s hard enough for teenagers without being labeled a “freak” just for being different from the majority.
  Gay teens have the highest suicide rate of all young people.
  
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  October 27, 2016 7:38pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Sure, all people need to be treated with respect (including white people), but do you really believe that the growing acceptance of homosexuality and the emergence of a lethal virus transmitted extremely efficiently by anal intercourse between men in an incredibly promiscuous population is “just a coincidence”?
    
    Or does the underlying aversion to homosexual practices ( albeit at times cruel ) by nearly all human societies across history actually reflect a biological reality?
    
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    October 27, 2016 8:09pm
    - GoVege
      
      I think it’s human (and most species’) nature for the majority to abuse the minority.
      Also that with gay men unable to marry or even live together without harassment until recently, they would inevitably congregate in anonymous gay baths and eventually catch serious diseases.
      Humans have done a lot of cruel things over the centuries.
      One by one we are challenging our brutal prejudices/ practices, in the West anyway.
      
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      October 28, 2016 12:19am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  I am actually all for anti bullying measures.
  
  What I am against is the anti white anti Western stealth Cultural Marxist program behind this #Diversity propaganda.
  
  You only have to look at what is happening on American uni campuses to see what will occur here in NZ very soon:
  
  “Berkeley protesters form human chain to stop white students from getting to class:
  
  Students at the University of California, Berkeley held a day of protest on Friday to demand the creation of additional “safe spaces” for transgender and nonwhite students, during which a human chain was formed on a main campus artery to prevent white students from getting to class.
  
  The demonstrators were caught on video blocking Berkeley’s Sather Gate, holding large banners advocating the creation of physical spaces segregated by race and gender identity, including one that read “Fight 4 Spaces of Color.””
  
  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/24/berkeley-protesters-form-human-chain-stop-white-st/
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:01pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  hehe – some of them both sides are buttered and some of them it’s neither. In which latter case you can fall over and not worry about which side is face down. The no downside upside.
  
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  October 28, 2016 2:32am
Reid

And so it begins:

Texas Rigged? Reports Of Voting Machines Switching Votes To Hillary In Texas

What a surprise.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-25/texas-rigged-first-reports-voting-machines-switching-votes-hillary-texas
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October 27, 2016 10:50am
- Ross12
  
  Posted the other day but here is the evidence from the voters
  
  http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-24-at-9.01.15-PM.png
  
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  October 27, 2016 11:04am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Gosh! I am so waiting for the NZ Herald to be all over that story in 5-4-3-2-1…
    
    (Insert Spongebob Squarepants “5 hours later” caption…)
    
    Sound of crickets chirping…
    
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    October 27, 2016 11:46am
- SPC
  
  Dumb to do vote rigging in a state the polls show Republicans winning.
  
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  October 27, 2016 1:31pm
Reid

Couldn’t add the following to the above, edit window..

One assumes the MSM will be all over this, 24/7/365, faithfully fulfilling their sacred role as watchdog of democracy in the land of the free and the home of the brave. Probably NZ TV will even make this headline news tonight, so serious a matter it is to democracy itself. News professionals must be aghast right across the entire Western world.
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October 27, 2016 10:55am
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , in what ways do you feel marginalized and oppressed in this” land of the free …” that is not necessarily interested or care about you tinfoil rants ?
  
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  October 27, 2016 12:17pm
  - Reid
    
    stupidboy, if you ever wonder why everyone calls you a moron, just bookmark that comment and keep it as a classic reminder.
    
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    October 27, 2016 12:33pm
Manolo

A singing diva joins the crooked diva:
http://www.lastampa.it/2016/10/26/esteri/hillary-clinton-lultimo-endorsement-di-adele-Ajo8y1NVWzykQk8TpPC4fP/pagina.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/26/politics/hillary-clinton-adele-concert/
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October 27, 2016 10:59am
Kimbo

Game two of the World Series scheduled just after midday today (our time), although rain may be an issue.

Even with Jon Lester on the mound, tom hunter’s Cubs were hammered 6-0 by the Indians in game one. They don’t want to go down by two games. Arrieta (18-8) pitching today for the Chicago, Bauer (12-8) for Cleveland.

http://m.mlb.com/gameday/cubs-vs-indians/2016/10/26/487632?partnerId=LR_preview#game_tab=preview,game=487632,game_state=preview
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October 27, 2016 11:08am
- cha
  
  # Kimbo / Tom
  
  I’m a fan of pretty much anything that involves running, kicking, throwing or hitting a ball so thanks for your MLB threads. They’re a fascinating diversion from the usual dross and much appreciated.
  
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  October 27, 2016 11:52am
  - tom hunter
    
    Oh! Well thanks, Cha.
    
    I thought Kimbo and I were boring the shit out of everybody. I’ve been waiting to be yelled at!
    
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    October 27, 2016 11:54am
    - cha
      
      With sides of theology from Kimbo and polsci from yourself, too.
      
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      October 27, 2016 11:58am
      - Kimbo
        
        You are a glutton for punishment! 😉
        
        Cubs lead 1-0 halfway through the first innings, Indians now at bat.
        
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        October 27, 2016 12:34pm
      - SPC
        
        No chance of an Indian rain dance (after the 5th innings) with the cubs leading.
        
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        October 27, 2016 1:48pm
- tom hunter
  
  One of the things that pisses me off with the MLB playoffs now is they way they have pushed the WS so far into October and even (game 6 & 7) early November.
  
  Tonight they started the game in 6℃ weather. 6℃!! That’s just crazy for a game of baseball. Can you imagine playing any other summer sport, like cricket, in such conditions!
  
  It’s just ridiculous and I think MLB is going to get caught out one day soon.
  
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  October 27, 2016 2:06pm
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    It’s called Dunedin and many moons ago the Windies in their prime froze to death there while losing a test series.
    
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    October 28, 2016 2:37am
tom hunter

Ha! Wondered where you were yesterday, Kimbo.

It was a terrific game. I’d read up on Kluber so was not surprised when he turned out to be dominant on the mound. In many respects the Indians are running the same pitching setup as the Dodgers: a weakish rotation of starting pitchers that get pulled after 5 innings (maybe 6 if they look good and have a solid lead) and replaced by great bullpen.

But just as with the Dodgers, can that be maintained for four winning games? Amidst all the cheering for Kershaw after the NLCS game 2, I noticed that the Cubs did get bat-on-ball against him, with a couple of shots falling into gloves only a few feet short of the home run fence. So I did wonder what would happen the next time they faced him.

It could be the same with Kluber. The Cubs did get men on base but could not pull the trigger and score the runs. Same with the supposedly fearsome Middle Reliver, Miller.

Losing is always annoying, but what crocked me yesterday was Perez’s late innings home run to take it from 3-0 (which I thought a fair reflection of the game) to 6-0. Grrrrrr. Two home runs in one game for a guy not known for power….? Grrrrr.

But that’s baseball.

BTW – thought you would enjoy this analysis: Here are the real villains of the Steve Bartman game. I liked these two quotes, first about a photo of the fans around Bartman, including a guy in a grey shirt also reaching for the ball:

Tragic characters
You

Yes, you. Because you would have done the same damned thing.

This guy. This guy in the gray jacket right here. This guy is you. And you were both lucky to walk away, whistling, free to go about your lives.

and this reference to another famous disaster…

But instead of this being the Alex Gonzalez Game, it was the Steve Bartman Game. That doesn’t make an ounce of sense. Imagine the Bill Buckner Game being the Herbert Franks Game because of an unrelated foul pop two batters before. Ludicrous. It would have been destined to be the Bill Buckner Game the entire time. At least, it should have been.

You got lucky, Herbert. You got lucky.
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October 27, 2016 11:20am
tom hunter

Interesting comment on the US election status…

Clinton told a rally in Florida, one of the battleground states where the election is likely to be decided, that Democrats cannot afford to slacken.

“I hope you will come out and vote because it’s going to be a close election. Pay no attention to the polls. Don’t forget, don’t get complacent, because we’ve got to turn people out,” she said in Coconut Creek, standing in front of a large sign reading “Vote Early.”

There are two types of candidates who tell their voters to ignore the polls. One is the candidate who knows he’s down big and worries that his fans will feel demoralized and therefore disinclined to turn out. The other is the candidate who knows he’s up big and worries that his fans will feel the election’s a foregone conclusion and therefore disinclined to turn out. Guess which candidate is which in the current election.

Clinton’s campaign is shifting resources to Senate races and Red States. If the polls are wrong, then it includes all their internal polls. Campaigns don’t make decisions like that lightly.
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October 27, 2016 11:32am
- Reid
  
  Campaigns don’t make decisions like that lightly.
  
  Unless of course they already know what’s going to happen.
  
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  October 27, 2016 11:36am
  - Kimbo
    
    Um, a few of us have been picking Trump to be another Goldwater/McGovern since…well before he won the Republican nomination. And who bothers to fix an election that is likely going to be a landslide?!
    
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    October 27, 2016 11:38am
  - tom hunter
    
    Like Trump? Why else would he be spending valuable campaigning time opening another Trump Hotel – in Washington D.C.
    
    You could probably make a good argument that Trump is part of the whole scam, given his past relationship with Democrats and the Clintons.
    
    Maybe that will be Vlad’s next propaganda meme, delivered with a grin on his face. I mean if you really want to disrupt your enemies…
    
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    October 27, 2016 11:41am
- Kimbo
  
  @ tom hunter
  
  BTW – thought you would enjoy this analysis: Here are the real villains of the Steve Bartman game. I liked these two quotes, first about a photo of the fans around Bartman, including a guy in a grey shirt also reaching for the ball:
  
  Funny you posted that – I came across it last week looking for ~~ammunition~~..er, information to share with you over the coming week 😉
  
  I seem to recall that in the lead up to the forward pass off which France scored their winning try in that quarter-final against the All Blacks at the 2007 World Cup
  
  …Joe Rokocoko turned over the ball in a rather insipid fashion, made even more galling by the fact that Doug Howlett who was in the form of his life was sitting in the grand stand. So who’s to “blame”? Rokocoko, the selectors, Jonathan Kaplan on the touchline who didn’t call it, Wayne Barnes…or Richie McCaw who had the guts years later to acknowledge his inexperience and failure to adapt to a referee under immense pressure?
  
  There is seldom one reason for a team at the highest level winning and losing Instead, a series of increments culminate in the moment of decision/”the clutch” in which one seizes or misses the opportunity. Some of T P McLean’s stuff got a bit predictable in his later years, when he was past his best, but that was a valuable theme that used to dominate in his writing, and summed up his accumulated wisdom. Bad/marginal ref/umpire call with 20 minutes to go like the Wallabies got on Saturday? Not good enough, because they still had 20 minutes to
  
  1. Put it aside
  
  2. Concentrate on the task at hand
  
  3. Generate and then take the next opportunity.
  
  Blaming a Fred Merkle or Bill Buchner or Steve Bartman – or Gert Buzeidenhout, Wayne Barnes or Nigel Owen is a sign as a player or a fan that you are looking for excuses.
  
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  October 27, 2016 12:56pm
  - tom hunter
    
    Yep.
    
    I enjoyed that YouTube doco piece on Bill Buckner that you linked to. Sheesh, I knew there must have been some blowback from the fans, but I had no idea it got as bad as that. A lessor man would have crumbled, but there he is today with his marriage intact and what looked like a bunch of adult kids doing well.
    
    I think a lot of that was due to him being philosophical about the game. He knew it really wasn’t him who had lost the game alone, and that simple fact fortified him through the ordeal. And his wife seemed to have the same attitude and mental toughness.
    
    But what pricks the Red Sox fans were. Niggling at his kids as they played games? Assholes. I loved his wife’s comment when they were invited back for reunions or throwing the ball out and people talked about how Red Sox fans were finally ready to forgive Buckner now that they had a couple of WS under their belts – and her response was to bristle and say that the real question was whether she, Bill and the kids were prepared to forgive them. I thought, “right on lady”.
    
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    October 27, 2016 1:36pm
    - Kimbo
      
      …and the Cubs win game 2, 5-1.
      
      So that’s the series tied at 1-1, with the next three scheduled for Chicago on (our time) Saturday, Sunday and Monday. So a possibility the Cubs could win their first world series since 1908 in front of their home fans. Either way, this will be the first World Series game at Wrigley Field since 1945.
      
      Hoepfully Keeping Stock can keep us updated from Chicago.
      
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      October 27, 2016 4:17pm
    - tom hunter
      
      And it’s done. Cubs even the series with a solid 5-1 win – and the single run was a pitcher’s error that got the Indians runner home from 3rd.
      
      Negatives:
      – for all the raving about Arrieta, he looked shaky in the 1st inning. Had the Indians been a little better he could have been in trouble. And they left him in too long because they thought he might heading for a no-hitter.
      – frigging Chapman still does not look as dominating as 100+mph would suggest.
      – The Cubs still left a lot of runners stranded, including two innings where they finished with loaded bases.
      
      Positive:
      – Defense as usual (a bigger deal in making a pitcher look good than was long believed)
      – Batting went as I expected against an Indians pitcher whose record did not suggest being dominant. Also went as expected against an Indians bullpen that does not look as fearsome as expected.
      – Kyle Schwarber: the barrel-chested boy gets injured on the 4th day of the season with ruptured knee ligaments, recovers faster than expected, to the extent he can at least bat, is punched through an emergency psuedo Spring Training (faces 1300 machine and AAA pitches in 3 days), is thrown into the World Series, not having seen any ML pitching for 200 days – and basically smashes the Indians pitchers all over the place for two games in a row. I think he’s batting .500+. Un-frigging believable.
      
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      October 27, 2016 4:24pm
- SPC
  
  A candidate wants to win every possible state.
  And vote turnout is important for the Senate races.
  
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  October 27, 2016 1:37pm
Stars And Stripes

90 per cent of New Zealand sea birds at risk of extinction – report
http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/85779141/90-per-cent-of-new-zealand-sea-birds-at-risk-of-extinction– report

Shit capitalism can’t be so bad after all as 10% of seabirds are still going to survive the onslaught of pollution, global warming, consumerism and whatever other in vogue reasons are dredged up to justify this doomsday report.
I’m sure the only viable way out of this catastrophe will be the adoption of socialism based around everyone reverting to a subsistence agrarian based model.
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October 27, 2016 11:43am
rightoverlabour

Saw this on Whaleoil

Cops were doing their bit for Tax on Ormiston rd Tuesday and Wed Morning. Rest of the criminals were given a free pass, except where the gangs are doing the hardwork for the police.

Time to split the two divisions.

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/10/oh-lordy-somebody-actually-carried-research-rigidly-enforced-speed-limits-making-drivers-worse/#more-278752
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October 27, 2016 12:04pm
Reid

Huma Abedin On Hillary: “She Is Still Not Perfect In Her Head”

As those of us who understand politics already knew.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-25/huma-abedin-hillary-she-still-not-perfect-her-head
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October 27, 2016 12:07pm
Reid

4th Veritas vid:

Rigging the Election – Video IV: $20k Wire Transfer From Belize Returned

In an unexpected twist, AUFC president Brad Woodhouse, the recipient of the $20,000, heard that Project Veritas Action was releasing undercover videos exposing AUFC’s activities. He told a journalist that AUFC was going to return the twenty thousand dollars. He said it was because they were concerned that it might have been an illegal foreign donation. Project Veritas Action was pleased but wondered why that hadn’t been a problem for the month that they had the money.

http://www.projectveritasaction.com/video/rigging-election-video-iv-20k-wire-transfer-belize-returned
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October 27, 2016 12:14pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid, I guess as a Trumpist like James O ‘Keefe and you anything goes in terms of deceptions , duping and out right lies ?
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/is-it-okay-for-james-okeefes-investigative-reporting-to-rely-on-deception/2016/10/19/f32fd46a-962e-11e6-9b7c-57290af48a49_story.html
  
  I suppose this below more than helps to cancel out Trump funded Project Veritas latest claims ? ,
  
  Exclusive investigation: Donald Trump faces foreign donor fundraising scandal
  
  Donald Trump’s presidential campaign is facing a fundraising scandal after a Telegraph investigation exposed how key supporters were prepared to accept illicit donations from foreign backers.
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/
  
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  October 27, 2016 12:27pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Hey Stephie, have you been writing to all the TV News channels DEMANDING they release full unedited versions of all of their news segments yet?
    
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    October 27, 2016 12:31pm
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      All on Red , the question is O’keefe is happy to release all the unedited versions of all his numerous exercises in entrapment and deception ?
      
      You’re of course happy that Trump helps to fund Jame’s O Keefe ?
      
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      October 27, 2016 12:36pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        No, the question is your hypocrisy where you hold one group to one standard and ignore another group.
        I don’t see any denial from those in the videos that the words they said aren’t true. Pretty damning really.
        Sorry Stephie, but your dissembling over it is all a bit sad.
        Oh and read your Telegraph link. I see Trump said they disavowed that Group ages ago. To find illegality against Trump, there has to be proof that the funds from that PAC went to Trumps Campaign.
        Nice try though
        
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        October 27, 2016 12:43pm
      - Fletch
        
        stephie, what do you think so-called “unedited” video is going to show? Will it show Bob Creamer saying, “no, we’d never do anything underhanded to jeopardize a Trump rally. That would be illegal”.
        
        No, of course it won’t. Liberals go on about Veritas videos being “edited” and fraudulent, but they never specify in what way they could ever have been edited to show the participants saying something other than what they are saying.
        
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        October 27, 2016 12:46pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Fletch , the facts are O’keefe has past form for selectively editing his videos taking his hapless victims unawares completely distorting what they meant to say ,
        
        https://thinkprogress.org/documentary-proof-james-okeefe-s-latest-video-is-a-fraud-e1d250785f5e#.aylypf7aq
        
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        October 27, 2016 1:58pm
Reid

Vid of vote rigging

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_02eRAdKUk
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October 27, 2016 12:29pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid and All on Red , both of you would, of course, be more than happy for O’Keefe to do a sting on these Trump supporters ?,
  
  http://qz.com/817932/kansas-domestic-terror-plot-election-day-violence-from-trump-supporters-is-already-happening/
  
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  October 27, 2016 12:40pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Sure, and against those that fire bombed a GOP campaign office also.
    You’re an idiot if you think Reid and I aren’t for the law to be upheld- oh wait.
    
    Just like here- caught! Good job
    http://wgme.com/news/local/three-women-accused-of-stealing-dozens-of-donald-trump-signs-in-falmouth
    
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    October 27, 2016 12:45pm
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red , not a patch on this kind of violent thuggery by Trump supporters ,
      
      http://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-trump-supporters-are-getting-so-violent-2016-10?r=US&IR=T
      
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      October 27, 2016 12:51pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Do you read your links? The editorial talk of reports of violence but actually DOESNT LIST ANY.
        Sigh, of course you don’t.
        As Tom and Mikey say you are ‘Kiwiblogs dumbest commentator’!
        
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        October 27, 2016 12:56pm
      - Reid
        
        I say that as well AoR. A lot. It’s quite fun.
        
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        October 27, 2016 4:35pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Stephieboy, the difference is, some of us, unlike you, want to see the law enforced fairly and impartially against everyone who transgresses it.
    
    Unlike you we don’t think some subset (E.g senior Democrats) is not subject to the same laws the rest of us are.
    
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    October 27, 2016 2:54pm
Manolo

It seems that Austrian stephieboys do not like freedom of expression:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3874610/Austrian-newspaper-editor-faces-hate-crime-charges-column-calling-migrants-testosterone-driven-Syrians.html

Chief editor of the Styrian edition of national paper Kronen Zeitung, Christoph Biro, labelled migrants ‘testosterone driven Syrians’ in his opinion piece on October 25 last year.

He also accused migrants of ‘extremely aggressive sexual assault’ and reported that Afghans had slashed train seats and refused to sit near Christians.
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October 27, 2016 12:37pm
- stephieboy
  
  Not at all. Anybody can say anything ( within reason ) and that can include neo-Nazis plus Holocaust deniers like EAD and Reid.
  
  The US lst Amendment protections of free speech is the benchmark for me .
  
  You ?
  
  Have you thought of chipping in for Biro’s defence or ???
  
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  October 27, 2016 12:48pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘Anybody can say anything’
    
    Do you say that down at the Mosque? At your Muslims friends house? When you pop into the Halal butchers?
    Doubt it. No freedom of speech in Islam.
    
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    October 27, 2016 12:52pm
  - Manolo
    
    C’mon, stephieboy. You know full well that freedom of expression and dissent are not tolerated in your Islamic faith.
    
    Blind obedience to Allah, the Prophet and your local clerics/imam is demanded.
    
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    October 27, 2016 12:56pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo, as I am not a Muslim nor practice the religion as I believe you well understand you might want to share some of your own experiences in your own household and community in Indonesia ?
      
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      October 27, 2016 1:50pm
      - Manolo
        
        Two words: oppresive and totalitarian. Islam is vile, believe me.
        
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        October 27, 2016 2:04pm
      - holysheet
        
        Which member of the stupidboy clan is on duty today? Must be the only one not a raghead, or are you lying? Surely not.
        
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        October 27, 2016 3:31pm
Manolo

Rabbits could not do a better job:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/feds-275000-born-to-illegals-in-one-year-would-fill-city-the-size-of-orlando/article/2605649

Moms in the United States illegally gave birth to 275,000 babies in 2014, enough birthright U.S. citizens to fill a city the size of Orlando, Florida, according to an analysis of data from the National Center for Health Statistics.

The data showed that newborns to illegals accounted for 7% of all births in 2014.
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October 27, 2016 1:02pm
cha

Trump’s foreign policy adviser, Walid Phares –

Now, will we see a physical wall on hundreds and hundreds of miles of border?” he asked. “I don’t know and I don’t think so.

https://youtu.be/cjm5sEqeXHo
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October 27, 2016 1:21pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Perhaps he should go and look at what is there already.
  ‘1] As of January, 2009, U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported that it had more than 580 miles (930 km) of barriers in place.’
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–United_States_barrier
  
  Personally I think the ‘Wall’ is more metaphoric than physical but there’s no doubt they could build more. They certainly intended to when they started.
  Funnily enough I’ve been reading a few accounts of how Mexican towns on the border want to see a wall up so they can get rid of all the crime from the cartels.
  
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  October 27, 2016 1:29pm
stephieboy

All on Red , oh dear Trump’s physical wall is just a mere metaphor ? I take it then he is going to ask Mexico to pay for a” metaphor” ?

I know Trump tends to bamboozle the gullible like you but I think at odd times he is pretty clear in his own mind what a physical wall actually means.
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October 27, 2016 1:54pm
- All_on_Red
  
  What don’t you understand about the word ‘personally’? That was my opinion.
  Gullible is a bit rich coming from the likes of you.
  I think it’s clear there are places a wall couldn’t be built and lots of places where it could- Mexico can pay for those
  
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  October 27, 2016 1:58pm
  - stephieboy
    
    dream on !
    
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    October 27, 2016 2:03pm
Odakyu-sen

stephieboy ,

A “wall” doesn’t have to be as physical as the Berlin one was. Nowadays, with sophisticated sensing systems and drones, the “wall” need only be a cordon on paper or a series of binary bits in a computer system. The US only needs to know when and where its borders have been breached.
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October 27, 2016 2:03pm
- All_on_Red
  
  I suspect we are wasting our time on poor hapless Stephie-KBsDC
  
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  October 27, 2016 2:05pm
- stephieboy
  
  Odakyu sen , then you might want to email Trump himself or his campaign team and ask him or them what he actually means by a” wall ” ?
  
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  October 27, 2016 2:05pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    You seem so sure- after you
    
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    October 27, 2016 2:07pm
stephieboy

All On Red and Odakyu sen ,

could it be this kind of thing ? ,

http://ilovemyfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Trump-wall-survey.jpg
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October 27, 2016 2:09pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Nup, more like this- which is actually up already
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–United_States_barrier#/media/File%3ASteel_Fence_SonoraMX_MTamez_Delegation_012708-1-.jpg
  
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  October 27, 2016 4:23pm
Keeping Stock

Good news for Chicago Cubs fans; they’re 4-nil up over the Cleveland Indians at the top of the fifth innings, and are well placed to level the World Series 1-all after the first two matches in Cleveland.

It looks bloody cold there too; even colder for the Indians faithful just at the moment!
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October 27, 2016 2:10pm
- tom hunter
  
  5-0 actually.
  
  Is it possible to be annoyed at your team after they score three runs in an inning – because they ended it with bases loaded?
  
  It is!
  
  Re the cold – I made comments about that above. Very annoyed with the MLB pushing the World Series this far into October and early November. The cold will be the same in Chicago for you, so rug up! Probably kisses goodbye to any idea of you enjoying a rooftop bar on the 27th floor of the Wit.
  
  Still, for the All Blacks it will be no worse at Soldier Field than in Edinburgh.
  
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  October 27, 2016 2:29pm
  - SPC
    
    When hell freezes over, is the right time for a Cubs vs Indians World Series.
    
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    October 27, 2016 2:47pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    The Cubs win 5-1, and get an important road win. If they can sweep their homes games, it might be a big night in Chicago on Sunday night!
    
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    October 27, 2016 4:14pm
    - tom hunter
      
      The Indians are too good a team to let that happen!
      
      My Mother-in-Law got woken up the other night thinking there was a heavy storm outside.
      
      But as she laughingly explained, it was just Cubs fans drifting home away from Wrigley field along Addison, Belmont and Irving Park streets – at 4am!
      
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      October 27, 2016 4:43pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Try and keep us updated once you get there
      
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      October 27, 2016 4:53pm
    - tom hunter
      
      Further important – if annoying – information for your Chicago journey…
      
      As the series heads to Wrigley Field and the fans head to Wrigleyville, some bars are charging premium pricing, as much as $250 per person which includes food and drink but not a table. The Cubby Bear is charging $100 just for cover.
      
      Bar owners said special event pricing is nothing new – it happens on New Year’s, for instance – but some fans are turned off.
      
      “Not a chance. That’s just way too expensive. I live, and I work, in the neighborhood and I don’t have $250 just to walk in and watch the game. That’s ridiculous,” said Kristy Johnson, Cubs fan.
      
      A number of bars are not charging cover, including Murphy’s Bleachers, but lines will be long and chances are you’ll be watching the game standing up.
      
      Never mind, there will be bars in the Loop that will be doing their best to pull customers in even if they can only watch on big-screen TV’s. The atmosphere will still be worth experiencing.
      
      And it’s probably still worth a trip to Wrigleyville on non-game days perhaps.
      
      Had to chuckle at this..
      
      Companies everywhere are getting into the Cubs spirit, knowing full well that getting their employees to focus 100 percent on their jobs this week may be an exercise in futility.
      
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      October 27, 2016 6:11pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        I certainly would love to visit Wrigley Field, and Cubs WS merchandise is on the shopping list, even if prices will be grossly inflated.
        
        If I’m not too busy enjoying Chicago, I’ll try to share on here. Can’t wait!
        
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        October 27, 2016 6:28pm
SPC

The closer to election day, the more accurate the polls. At this stage in the cycle, polls have historically missed the mark by an average of just 1.8 percentage points. Statistically sound polls—the kind Donald Trump abhors—put Hillary Clinton around six points ahead. That equates to a 96% chance of victory for the Democrats.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/10/daily-chart-14?cid1=cust/ddnew/n/n/n/20161025n/owned/n/n/nwl/n/n/AP/7954683/email&etear=dailydispatch
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October 27, 2016 2:26pm
- SPC
  
  http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-is-the-presidential-race-tightening/
  
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  October 27, 2016 3:07pm
cha

You couldn’t make this shit up – Trump’s son in law’s rag publishes an article suggesting Moscow may want Alaska back.

As in the U.S., the attention given to Alaska Day—October 18—in Russia doesn’t rise to the level of the national front page news. So far, it is not an official holiday in Russia—but, who knows, maybe that’s about to change.
This year, on Sailors Square in the town of Yevpatoria, Crimea—which Russia snatched from Ukraine more than two years ago—a small but sturdy red-bricked monument with a message to future generations of Russians was built. The monument is named “For the Edification of Posterity” and the inscription on it reads: “WE HAVE RETURNED CRIMEA, YOU ARE TO RETURN ALASKA.” Silhouettes of both Crimea and Alaska are engraved.

http://observer.com/2016/10/on-alaska-day-russians-still-dream-of-getting-alaska-back/
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October 27, 2016 2:46pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Well, a few mill to the Clinton Foundation and I’m sure Hillary would oblige. Putin’s already got her number and private eMail address…
  
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  October 27, 2016 2:57pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Ed Snack ,as a great Putin admirer I’m sure Donald would get ahead in the cue and oblige his pal .
    
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    October 27, 2016 3:30pm
stephieboy

Manolo

“Two words: oppresive and totalitarian. Islam is vile, believe me.”

Speaking from your personal experience. ? How can we know that your not a fellow traveller ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_traveller
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October 27, 2016 3:34pm
- sooty
  
  Stephieboy clocks off shift, the replacement did not turn up. You are going to have to do better. You are leaving us to give muzzies and killary shit for for the rest of the day. Enjoy!
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:54pm
Stars And Stripes

NZ Rugby appoints Respect and Responsibility Project Manager
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/316637/nz-rugby-appoints-respect-and-responsibility-project-manager
“Ms Butterworth would lead a programme to “enhance the skills and knowledge of healthy relationships across all levels of the game”, the organisation said”.
“Ms Butterworth is currently the agency manager for Wellington Rape Crisis and was previously the education and programme co-ordinator for Wellington Women’s Refuge”.

So the rugby union now has a man hater on the books who is going to tell all the boys how they evil they are and that it would be healthier for them all to be gay or transgender.
This is the beginning of the demise of rugby in NZ.
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October 27, 2016 4:01pm
- SPC
  
  Only if it impacts on selection, such as over 2/3rd of any team having an A grade in their social responsibility course exam.
  
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  October 27, 2016 4:06pm
- Kimbo
  
  I thought Louise Nicholas was the one-woman cottage-industry for that sort of work.
  
  Sorry, am just cynical about the role, the task and the perceived need. I’m involved in the rugby community and from where I sit (admittedly at club level), there is no problem – women take a leadership role in management, administration and sometimes coaching at all levels.
  
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  October 27, 2016 4:51pm
  - SPC
    
    Jobs for the girls, woman’s political commissar – every organisation will want one once the NZR sets the example.
    
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    October 27, 2016 5:00pm
    - wiseowl
      
      I expect Netball NZ to appoint a guy to advise on the effects of PMT on males, emotional problems and hormonal changes.
      It’s all about equality.
      
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      October 27, 2016 7:58pm
SPC

Little John, maximillionesque – has commented through a car window to people riding bikes, that “real men ride women”. No one would know but for a certain generation connecting their real life to their on-line life so the rest of us can know.

It’s phase, single men in cars, small dogs as people go past a gate, us on blogs (sometimes wisely anonymous) … .
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October 27, 2016 4:02pm
cha

Pilots pilot and the greatest stick-and-rudder man that ever lived, Bob Hoover, famed for his engine out aerobatics, has passed.

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LOS ANGELES — Robert A. “Bob” Hoover, a World War II fighter pilot who became an aviation legend for his flying skills in testing aircraft and demonstrating their capabilities in air shows, has died at age 94.

Hoover, who lived in Palos Verdes Estates, California, died early Tuesday, said Bill Fanning, a close family friend for many years and fellow pilot.

“He was every pilot’s icon,” Fanning said, recalling his friend as one of the premier test pilots of the 1950s and ’60s. “Bob tested everything. He flew them all.”

When the National Air and Space Museum conferred its highest honor on Hoover in 2007, the museum noted that Jimmy Doolittle, leader of the famed 1942 bomber raid on Japan, had once described Hoover as “the greatest stick-and-rudder man that ever lived.”

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/top-pilot-who-stole-plane-to-escape-wwii-prison-camp-dies
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October 27, 2016 4:11pm
- tom hunter
  
  And how far behind can the great Chuck Yeager be?
  
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  October 27, 2016 5:06pm
Manolo

A warm display of multiculturalism in Sydney:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3865422/The-moment-car-used-Islamic-State-linked-gang-turf-war-shooting-Sydney-explodes-torched-destroy-evidence.html

Sources have since told the news station that the bullets were meant for another man who recently returned from Syria and is believed to have links to ISIS.

News of a potential gang turf war comes after agents from the Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad raided five homes in Western Sydney in search of drugs and weapons last week, including one in Guilford, where the fire took place.
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October 27, 2016 4:18pm
All_on_Red

Lol
‘Nearly one in four millennials would prefer to be struck by a meteor than see Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton become president, according to a recent poll conducted by University of Massachusetts-Lowell and Odyssey.’
http://college.usatoday.com/2016/10/26/millennials-meteor-trump-clinton/?utm_content=buffercf82a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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October 27, 2016 4:42pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  The meteor would have to have hit one of the debates. Still possible, although also highly unlikely – meteor lands on one of them; the other is taken out by something or someone else.
  
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  October 28, 2016 2:53am
Brigitte

I see A Blog is struggling to find items to fill their 30 min slots and have reverted to copying KiwiBlog (I’ve noted pies & Hager today already).
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October 27, 2016 4:47pm
- Gabby
  
  Well the pie one would certainly have hit the spot.
  
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  October 27, 2016 5:09pm
Reid

Michael Moore PERFECTLY explains why Donald Trump will WIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29xpn94_CL4
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October 27, 2016 4:50pm
- SPC
  
  Moore’s workers rise up and take down free trade by voting Trump call.
  
  The little problem with the subsequent rising cost of imports/goods is the impact on inflation – low inflation is what keeps the low interest rates in play. Without low interest rates … a few asset bubbles will burst, banks will wobble … the economy will tank even worse than forecast because of this.
  
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  October 27, 2016 5:20pm
Manolo

The Aussie counterpart, a source of inspiration for the shallow and out-of-her-depth Dame Devoy:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/acme-human-rights/

Like some demented looney tunes character, our glorious Race Discrimination Commissioner Dr Tim Soutphommasane has opened a free speech Pandora’s Box with his determination to find racism where none exists.
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October 27, 2016 5:02pm
Manolo

A good paragraph:

Bob Dylan won this year’s Nobel Prize, ‘for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition.’ Which basically tells you everything you need to know about the 21st century. Where the 20th century gave us the lilting romanticism of Yeats, the haunting modernity of Eliot, and the wintry stoicism of Bunin, we answered with… Dylan: a whinging, narcissistic hippie who sounds always to be in the throes of a minor stroke. He’s the voice of a generation, yes – an eminently loathsome generation responsible for all our contemporary ills, from the housing bubble to mass immigration.

The only greater farce committed by the Nobel Committee was awarding its Peace Prize to Barack Obama in 2009 for outstanding achievement in the field of blackness. This is a consistent blind spot for the Committee, since Bob’s as much a poet as Barry is black. (About half at best.) Or, to use Norman Mailer’s line, ‘If Dylan’s a poet, I’m a basketball player.’
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October 27, 2016 5:05pm
- nasska
  
  I have to take issue with you there Manolo. Although the Messiah is equally worthy of a Nobel Prize for Mundanity or Skin Colour, Bob Dylan actually wrote & performed some of the best folk music I have heard to date.
  
  Who in their 60s can fail to recall sitting on the floor of some grotty flat, stoned/pissed out of their tree, while listening to ‘Highway 61 Revisited’?
  
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  October 27, 2016 5:31pm
  - Manolo
    
    Music, yes. But is that literature? 😀
    
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    October 27, 2016 5:36pm
    - itstricky
      
      What other category would a musician fit in? Or are musicians not allowed to be nominated?
      
      More to the point: Is it the music you object to, or is it just the whole ‘hippie’ thing?
      
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      October 27, 2016 5:42pm
    - nasska
      
      Wikipedia describes him as an “American songwriter, singer, artist, and writer” but it’s his talent as a songwriter that does it for me.
      
      Frankly I doubt that he’s a good fit for a Nobel Prize but after the black warmonger Obama got his for peace the currency is somewhat devalued.
      
      I reckon you or I would stand a chance. 🙂
      
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      October 27, 2016 5:46pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        And he’s only half black – and didn’t really know the black half. And it wasn’t even American black. And he came from Hawaii – which isn’t even really very American. hmmm . . . .
        
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        October 28, 2016 2:57am
    - Brigitte
      
      The reason Jim Morrison left the Doors was so he could be respected as a poet. He went to Paris specifically to write poetry. Sadly things went awry too soon to find out the quality of his (non song) poetry.
      
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      October 27, 2016 7:23pm
      - itstricky
        
        Songs are poetry. I think these should be considered literature in the case of the prize.
        
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        October 27, 2016 8:38pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Nasska, not a lot here are old or mature to know or realise who Bob Dylan is. They just Google and Wiki the text.
    Time for a change???
    
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    October 27, 2016 6:32pm
- cha
  
  I like Bob’s gates.
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  October 27, 2016 9:36pm
doggone7

The Hate Hillary Herd are too distracted today to give attention to Max and his latest great achievements. How disappointing.
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October 27, 2016 5:10pm
- Gabby
  
  Maxi pads out his real bloke resume. Heavy, Flo.
  
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  October 27, 2016 5:46pm
- itstricky
  
  Poor old Max just being picked on by the MSM again…
  
  The Herald report was funny, last line left just short of saying ‘Real men don’t live at home with their Mum & Dad, Max’
  
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  October 27, 2016 5:46pm
  - dirty harry
    
    If I were Max Key Id never be shifting out..why would you? He can still go out , root around..get shitfaced and return home to the palace in Parnell.
    On ya Max !
    
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    October 27, 2016 8:00pm
    - itstricky
      
      You forgot ‘tell everyone else what makes a real man’
      
      Apparently that’s a preened, shit faced, rooter.
      
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      October 27, 2016 8:39pm
    - Gabby
      
      While the Pony’s away, Maxi’s pad’s in play.
      
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      October 27, 2016 9:02pm
Ross12

I thought the USA was a first world country. This is the sort thing I wouldn’t be surprised to see in a very poor African country but the USA !? Their election system is an absolute joke !

“Based on estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, Rhode Island would be expected to have 592,672 registered voters.
But the state has 781,770 people listed as eligible to vote in the Nov. 8 election, according to the voter registration database maintained by Secretary of State Nellie M. Gorbea. That’s an excess of 189,098…..”

http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20161025/voter-rolls-off-by-189000-in-ri-journal-analysis-finds
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October 27, 2016 5:48pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Suspicious, but then, how old is the Census Bureau data?
  
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  October 27, 2016 6:07pm
- SPC
  
  Rhode Island, went there but did not stay, went away and left my children to inherit another vote on election day.
  
  But as this is not a swing state the impact on the POTUS electoral college is near zero …
  
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  October 27, 2016 6:14pm
  - Ross12
    
    So having a reliable voting register in all voting areas is just not important then !!! If they can’t do something that is relatively simple as that, then they don’t have much hope.
    
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    October 27, 2016 6:33pm
    - SPC
      
      They lack a uniform nation-wide system, that modernises at the same pace etc.
      
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      October 27, 2016 6:36pm
- Gabby
  
  States’ Rats. They’re not gonna give up ther rats fer no harfillutin eefishinsee.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:03pm
Fletch

A sermon, comparing Trump and Clinton with the biblical figures Cyrus and Antiochus.
As the speaker says, Trump has all the right enemies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b-gYneqU6Y
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October 27, 2016 5:57pm
SPC

Trump has to win one of Pennsylvania, Colorado, or New Hampshire to win (he is struggling to win Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Nevada at current poll levels).

If the election was next Tuesday he would lose, but the extra week this year (they refuse to hold the election the day after Halloween), means he still has time.
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October 27, 2016 6:23pm
- SPC
  
  Which means the election will not be on the same day as the Melbourne Cup this time.
  
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  October 27, 2016 6:30pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Who gives a fuck about a few skinny blokes whacking some defenceless horses to make them go faster?
    
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    October 27, 2016 6:49pm
    - nasska
      
      Or some drunken women making arses of themselves? 🙂
      
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      October 27, 2016 6:57pm
    - SPC
      
      But the parallels are so compelling!
      
      Huuuuge amounts are invested in/on the winning entry in the contest. And the payoffs are potentially huuuuge as well.
      
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      October 27, 2016 7:01pm
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        Remember Brexit, SPC.
        
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        October 27, 2016 7:07pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Polls are BS, stacked with Democrat voters to distort them and media blitz “Trump is losing, you may as well give up now, whities!”
  
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  October 27, 2016 7:06pm
Nostradamus

I’m sure Nasska won’t be consulting this guy for spiritual guidance:

Bisexual vicar’s secret life of prostitutes and orgies

A vicar’s wife has told a tribunal how her husband led a double life as a bisexual sex addict.

Reverend James Meredith Day gave the appearance of respectability but those closest to him learned of his dark sexual fantasies and fondness for violent pornography.

Speaking at a Church of England tribunal in London, Birte Day said her husband had taken part in group sex, visited gay saunas and attempted to set up meetings with prostitutes.

This guy seems more qualified to advise on sex than spiritual matters.
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October 27, 2016 7:30pm
- nasska
  
  I couldn’t put it better than this comment by ‘truthout’ on another blog:
  
  ….”The deeply religious are mostly conservative, hence they are mostly Republican. Evangelicals are the base of the party. Deeply religious people have great difficulty dealing with human sexuality, perhaps because it is a force more powerful than religion. They obsess endlessly about sex. I think that because of their obsession, they are drawn to it like a moth to a flame. Look at the craziness of the evangelicals (Hastert. Duggar, Swaggert), the long history of sexual abuse by Catholic priests, the mistreatment of women in the Moslem world (honor killings, burkas, the constant rape of women by ISIS), and even Orthodox Jews (make love through a slit in the sheet, a ritual bath during a woman’s period because she is “unclean”, women can’t sit with men in the synagogue).
  
  Until the godly can treat sexuality like the part of being human that it is, they will continue to be both repulsed and attracted to it, and this obsession will lead to the molestation and rape of women and children.”……
  
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  October 27, 2016 7:39pm
  - Reid
    
    Until the godly can treat sexuality like the part of being human that it is…
    
    All the godly people I know do nasska. Some people present themselves as godly but clearly aren’t, such as perhaps, I’ll take your word for it, in those examples you give above.
    
    The issue is however, people like you who understand nothing about faith conflate people who profess faith but don’t practice it with people who both profess and practice it.
    
    You can see people like you here every single day whereby they equate all billion or so muslims with sharing exactly the same faith and practice as those who blow people up for a living and commit other horrible crimes.
    
    But fact is of course, if the faith itself really actually truly was indeed at the heart of the matter in that example I just gave, we’d be having thousands of bombings every single day right throughout the western world, wouldn’t we. Not to mention every single choir boy being molested, etc etc etc. Wouldn’t we.
    
    But we don’t see that, do we.
    
    But people like you ignore that clear and present REALITY and instead, practice your pre-judgement based not on the clear and present REALITY but on your very own hallucination.
    
    Which is a shame, for you, for it twists your judgement based on beliefs which are clearly fallacious, as assessed merely by an actual truthful observation of REALITY itself.
    
    You people are precisely the same as lefties who blame poverty for causing every single ill, you know that?
    
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    October 27, 2016 8:06pm
    - nasska
      
      ….”understand nothing about faith conflate people who profess faith but don’t practice it with people who both profess and practice it.”….
      
      You fail to factor in the huge number of “religious people” who are part of the theatre only to secure an advantage over their fellows. eg. boybotherers who join up to get access to kids or those who desire social control. I suspect that only a small percentage of those who profess faith in the supernatural actually believe in the crap.
      
      You are trying to convince me that your hallucinations should be my reality.
      
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      October 27, 2016 8:23pm
      - Reid
        
        I suspect that only a small percentage of those who profess faith in the supernatural actually believe in the crap.
        
        Yes therein lies the schism mate since your background I suspect gives you that weighting whereas my background gives me the opposite.
        
        You are trying to convince me that your hallucinations should be my reality.
        
        But if your hallucination was the case then like I said, how come not every single muslim does bombings, and not every single choirboy is molested? Because if your hallucination was the operant then we would see that, wouldn’t we. But we don’t, do we.
        
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        October 27, 2016 8:36pm
      - nasska
        
        ….”how come not every single muslim does bombings”…..
        
        Those who don’t may be the ethnic or cultural Muslims Reid. The Koran encourages such behaviour but probably only the true believers actually act on the instructions.
        
        ….”and not every single choirboy is molested?”….
        
        How do you know they’re not? Some of them are probably a bit shy & embarrassed about it. 🙂
        
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        October 27, 2016 8:44pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I would say that the deeply religious believe that their religion has a “handle” on life, the universe, and the meaning behind the number “42,” so naturally, they will tend to be more reluctant to accept new fads (i.e., they will appear “conservative”).
    
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    October 27, 2016 8:13pm
    - nasska
      
      After someone refuses to recognise reality accepting new fads would be a real hurdle.
      
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      October 27, 2016 8:28pm
- Manolo
  
  Should we introduce him to our own infamous Colin C?
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:34pm
  - nasska
    
    Reid doesn’t deserve such inhumane treatment Manolo. It may not be too late to have him deprogrammed. ?
    
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    October 27, 2016 8:38pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Bisexual vicar’s secret life of prostitutes and orgies
  
  *hits buzzer* yes, LR&C ? Is it . . . religious leaders who still have more credibility than the Tamakis ?
  
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  October 28, 2016 3:20am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Whites are finally waking up, even the Cultural Marxist propaganda rag The Conversation ( often republished in the NZ Herald) has noticed:

“Donald Trump and the rise of white identity in politics

…In a society dominated by white people, whiteness simply fades into the background. Just as fish fail to notice the water around them, whites are unlikely to think about how they are members of a distinct group.

Our research shows that the era of “white invisibility” is coming to a close.

Non-Hispanic whites are projected to become a minority in the year 2044. This increasing diversity across the country is making whites’ own race harder and harder to ignore. Political and social phenomena, from Barack Obama’s presidency to the Black Lives Matter movement, are making whiteness even more salient to white Americans…”

http://theconversation.com/donald-trump-and-the-rise-of-white-identity-in-politics-67037
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October 27, 2016 7:33pm
Sir Leslie Bottocks

Depressing 1970’s sci-fi movie starring a guy in a turtleneck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3XR9VNcaxA
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October 27, 2016 8:03pm
Sir Leslie Bottocks

Brian does Mushrooms, has a bad trip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YusJzqw4Gt0
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October 27, 2016 8:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Manolo

I see that the perspicacious politico (aka stephieboy) has rumbled that you are a commie

“How can we know that your not a fellow traveller ?

Are you an undercover PKI or Sendero Luminoso comrade?
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October 27, 2016 8:47pm
- Manolo
  
  Nessuno. Non sono communista, cara Maggy. stephieboy e’ pieno di buglie. Non credergli, ti prego. 🙂
  
  I think I write better English than our Muslim multiculturalist. Did you notice his “your”?
  
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  October 27, 2016 8:53pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Tidak takut. Aku bisa mencium bau komunis dari 20 langkah.
    
    I have given up correcting stephieboy’s grammar… I’m now trying to assist him (them) with basic comprehension.
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:00pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      And when the second objective groanfully fails despite your excellent efforts . . .
      
      Hey mags – I was running with a natural science lady . . I said ‘what’s the pretty purply flowering weed stuff’ and she rattled off the latin names. hahaha – how cool is that ? Yeah – but does it have a normal people name ? SA ragwort. Hope I’m getting that right.
      
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      October 28, 2016 3:12am
      - wiseowl
        
        Might be Fumitory?
        
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        October 28, 2016 10:39am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @LRC
        
        It’s Senecio glastifolius – holly-leaved senecio.
        
        It’s a South African, first recorded wild in NZ in 1969.
        
        It’s been ablaze on Kaiti Hill for the last couple of weeks, but is now going to seed.
        
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        October 28, 2016 11:08am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Wiseowl
        
        scrambling fumitory is in flower at the moment, but it’s not as noticeable as the purple daisy.
        http://ketenewplymouth.peoplesnetworknz.info/image_files/0000/0004/3849/Pink_ragwort._Senecio_glastifolius-011.JPG
        
        http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/learning/colleges/college-of-sciences/clinics-and-services/weeds-database/scrambling-fumitory.cfm
        
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        October 28, 2016 11:13am
Manolo

Penalty tax:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/us/obamacare-affordable-care-act-tax-penalties.html?_r=0
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October 27, 2016 8:49pm
- All_on_Red
  
  This ‘October Surprise’ might just be what Trump needs to win and avoid what’s looking like an inevitable defeat.
  I see in many States the increase in premiums is around 90+%
  That’s going to shred Obama and Hillarycare’s credibility and piss a lot of people off.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:49pm
EAD

After hearing some of the Dons talks, especially this one: https://youtu.be/-wV1AurM77o where he attacks the MSM and Global banking interests, I hold high hope that he may just be the real deal.

But there is always a nagging doubt in my mind is that he is the establishments choice in the US election kabuki theatre – there merely to advance the NWO agenda even though he patently stands against it. If really was anti-establishment, surely they would have given him the Kennedy treatment so he couldn’t get this far?

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/10/26/brexit-ii-donald-trump-false-flag.html

Trump may be selected (not elected) just to make sure people understand that those at the top have the right plan for us.

How will we know? Well … not long after Trump’s ascension, the world will start going to hell as we have forecast.

Chaos will strike with a vengeance and people won’t even see them coming. Instead they’ll be ecstatic over a Trump victory.

“We won!” they’ll say, and they’ll keep it up as disasters start to unfold.

You see, Trump will prove no panacea, anymore than Brexit. Wars in the Middle East will escalate. There may not be direct nuclear war with Russia, which will be seen as a positive (even though it’s all planned by the same people).

Trump might change the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, to show he means business, but then the new Chairman will be no better or even worse than the old one. (Anything else is impossible, for the Fed is always a disaster.)

And the elites will continue to trigger disasters.

Maybe the stock market will lose thousands of points, destabilizing governments and corporations around the world.

Banks will make serial crashes. Bail-ins will rape investors.

China will implode. Derivatives, in their trillions, will come undone.

All the things we have been forecasting will take place. A lot of them they can control, after all, through controlling central banks and money production.

They will be pleased to do this, as they are pleased to do anything evil. The boot will stamp on a human face for eternity (or until people realize the only answer is to get rid of government and central banks completely).

The alternative, of course, is a Hillary win.

In that case, people will get even more discouraged – and ultimately a good deal more angry sooner rather than later. It will actually be worse. There will be civil unrest, martial law and more war than you can even dream of.
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October 27, 2016 8:54pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Trumps only mission if he chooses to accept is to burn it all down.
  
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  October 27, 2016 9:35pm
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M
    
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    October 27, 2016 9:59pm
BeeSting

Stephie will get a hard on from this one

http://whitegenocideproject.com/white-genocide-in-new-zealand-praised-by-media/
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October 27, 2016 11:37pm
Left Right and Centre

I’m brainwashed by msm. My brain says Clinton will win. Think of this – she’s gonna get California. That’s 55 big votes right there.
Are candidates really that bad ? Eight years of Bush was bad. At least with Hilary you get a ‘first gentleman’ – that’ll be a laugh.
And they won’t want to rename it ‘TrumpHouse’.
Easier induction too. Like riding a bike for Clintons’.
It’s all Clinton, Clinton, Clinton in polls and close states. Donald is one thing but Republicans ? Not much choice either way. If either one does two terms – yep – around 77 at the end – if they make it. Similar to Reagan. Why do I care about this stuff ? I really shouldn’t. You tell me – right now – who’s the PM of Japan ?
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October 28, 2016 3:52am
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  Clinton is not just corrupt, I believe she is actually evil. She will totally f_ck over the U.S.
  
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  October 28, 2016 11:05am
Manolo

Two gentlemen or two rapists?
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/team-hillary-feared-bill-clinton-cosby-comparisons/
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October 28, 2016 6:35am
Manolo

Whatever it takes:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/erica-garner-rips-clinton-camp-emails-father-death-article-1.2847478

Erica Garner, the daughter of police chokehold victim Eric Garner, ripped the Hillary Clinton campaign in a series of tweets Thursday after new campaign emails released by WikiLeaks showed how the Democratic nominee’s staffers discussed the death of her father.
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October 28, 2016 8:04am
Manolo

Paris, the City of Light!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3878212/I-slept-pavement-m-queue-England-100-child-migrants-hoping-sent-UK-forced-sleep-rough-no-man-s-land-French-riot-police-bar-dismantled-Calais-Jungle.html
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October 28, 2016 9:28am
Manolo

Last time 30 people attended his rally:
http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20161027/tim-kaine-sarasota-rally-canceled
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October 28, 2016 9:56am
Fletch

Clinton so frail, she needs Secret Service help to mount a single step.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef6UuBTqsRc
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October 28, 2016 11:06am
Manolo

A Republican schism:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441479/donald-trump-voters-never-trump-republicans-conservatives-divide-2016

With Donald Trump flailing in the polls just under two weeks from the presidential election, an open conflict has broken out between many of those Republicans voting for Trump and those who see him as a moral and political bridge too far for the Republican party.
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October 28, 2016 11:10am
Morrissey

Shouldn’t this foul and idle moron be sent to Iraq, where he might be of some use?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11737059
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