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duggledog

Judith Collins, Corrections, National, whomever, won’t stop criminal reoffending until prisons and penalties make offending not worth it.

Outsource to China!
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October 19, 2016 8:02am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  And solve our Organ Transplant shortage ?
  
  Prisoners used in China’s Transplant organ harvest industry ,
  
  http://www.humanharvestmovie.com
  
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  October 19, 2016 8:10am
  - Jack5
    
    ‘Morning Stephie A, Stephie B … Stephie Nth.
    
    While you are posting about China’s organ harvest, I have a question for you guys if you don’t mind me being frank.
    
    Is circumcision a Muslim and Jewish thing, or is it just Middle East Muslim and Jewish?
    
    I mean could there be a Stephiestani well, ‘er, um … “organ” harvest industry? Machine tools in America’s industrial heartland, Processed Prickles as the tool industry in Stephiestan – perhaps for Prick Bits dog tucker?
    
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    October 19, 2016 8:15am
    - stephieboy
      
      Circumcision is a practice of the two Abrahamic religions Islam and Judaism and I understand certain Christian sects.
      
      You seem to think that harvesting organs from our prison population as is done in China could be a good thing ?
      
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      October 19, 2016 8:42am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Stephie
        Is it true that you are composed entirely of ‘harvested’ foreskins?
        
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        October 19, 2016 9:43am
    - virtualmark
      
      Jack5,
      
      My understanding is that circumcision is largely a desert-dwelling peoples thing. Sand under the foreskin isn’t pleasant apparently (I can imagine).
      
      So it’s largely a geographic/cultural thing that got absorbed into the Judaism and Islam because of that Middle East desert connection.
      
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      October 19, 2016 9:40am
    - cmm
      
      Circumcision is also popular in sub-Saharan Africa where there are no sandy deserts (eg. Xhosa).
      
      About Xhosa 30 boys die every year to to cock ups.
      
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      October 19, 2016 9:47am
    - Elaycee
      
      Someone once told me of a chap who worked in a circumcision clinic…. apparently the pay was awful but there were plenty of tips…
      
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      October 19, 2016 11:06am
    - sam green
      
      Are you entire Jack5?
      
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      October 19, 2016 8:10pm
- Gabby
  
  If only swamp kauri ‘tabletops’ weren’t so darned profitable.
  
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  October 19, 2016 8:17am
Jack5

The refugee kids turn out to be terrorist age.

And some media nitwits want NZ to open its doors to them.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/722326/Migrant-crisis-ages-Calais-Jungle-refugee-children-questioned-UK
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October 19, 2016 8:05am
- stephieboy
  
  Jack5 , no let some in who like other refugees are automatically given a security screening vetting and clearance .
  
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  October 19, 2016 8:12am
  - Jack5
    
    You mean U.N. vetting like these grown-up children received, Stephie X?
    
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    October 19, 2016 8:16am
    - Albert_Ross
      
      No, he does not mean “like these grown-up children”. Nothing in the linked article suggested that the people in question had had UN vetting.
      
      Nobody at all is suggesting that New Zealand should open its doors and allow in all and sundry, no questions asked, from wherever.
      
      Of course you like to pretend that that is what people like Stephie are demanding. It’s easy and fun to demolish such a suggestion and also to get in a few jabs at Stephie along the way. But it is a misrepresentation of the true issue.
      
      What you really need to show though, is why New Zealand should turn its back and close its doors to innocent people who, through no fault of their own, genuinely have lost everything and have nowhere to go.
      
      Is this really the sort of society you want New Zealand to be?
      
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      October 19, 2016 8:27am
    - stephieboy
      
      Jack 5 , not at all. NZ takes responsibility for the security vetting of all refugees and both Michael Woodhouse and Chris Finlayson assure us that this is very thorough ,
      
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/immigration-minister-confident-syrian-refugees-not-a-risk-after-link-to-paris-attack
      
      For a change put your paranoia to rest !
      
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      October 19, 2016 8:49am
      - Manolo
        
        Checks similar to these, stephieboy?
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3847724/So-checks-carried-Home-Office-REFUSES-carry-intrusive-medical-tests-Calais-migrants-claiming-17.html
        
        Questions have been raised today about the quality of the checks being carried out by the Home Office on ‘child’ migrants entering Britain from Calais – amid claims some adults may be posing as teenagers to enter the country.
        
        Two groups of children, who the Government claims are aged 14 to 17, have arrived at the UK Visas and Immigration office in Croydon, south London, over the last two days as part of a fast-track system to move youngsters from the Jungle camp before it is demolished.
        
        But critics claim some of the ‘children’ arriving look older than their teenage years, and warned that some adults may be posing as children to abuse the scheme, while others have questioned why no girls appear to be arriving.
        
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        October 19, 2016 8:59am
      - Jack5
        
        Woodhouse and Finlayson?
        
        Their assurances aren’t worth a nob of goat shit.
        
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        October 19, 2016 11:02am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        No Manolo, not similar to those. Why would you think that?
        
        Why do people always assume that because the UK or some other distant country is taking a particular approach and seeing particular results, New Zealand is taking the same approach and we shall see the same results?
        
        New Zealand’s approach to immigration and refugees is quite different to the EU’s, and our outcomes are also quite different. As long as our approach continues to be different, it is likely that we shall continue to see different outcomes.
        
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        October 19, 2016 12:39pm
- Rich Prick
  
  To be fair, Muslim terrorists can hatch out of their shells as young as 14.
  
  http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/593527/BAe-military-police-targets-UK-s-youngest-Islamic-terrorist-Anzac
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:58am
  - stephieboy
    
    Child Soldiers as young as 8 are recruited in conflicts throughout the world but to think a terrorist could be hatched from teen Syrian refugees here in NZ is really simple silliness and irrespective of the UK 14 year old .,
    
    https://www.hrw.org/topic/childrens-rights/child-soldiers
    
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    October 19, 2016 10:07am
    - Manolo
      
      @stephieboy, how many thousands of Muslim refugees did you say NZ should accept?
      
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      October 19, 2016 10:11am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        You tell us. You are the one alleging that Stephie says we should accept thousands of Muslim refugees.
        
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        October 19, 2016 12:41pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      GFY. You are really over projecting, where did I say our Islamic guests are turning into terrorists?
      
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      October 19, 2016 10:12am
Manolo

The useful idiots of Amnesty International:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-37675003

Australia has rejected a human rights report comparing its asylum seeker camp on the Pacific island of Nauru to an open-air prison.

Australia transports asylum seekers who arrive by boat to off-shore processing centres in Nauru and Papua New Guinea.
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October 19, 2016 8:05am
Paulus

Have just read the height of professional journalism.
Half page headline
“Strike continues with public support” namely the junior doctors at Tauranga Hospital.
70.52% answered the question “do you support the junior doctors” with a “yes”.
23.8% said no and 6.42% “not sure”

Wow what a result
78 people responded – yes a whole 78 people.

Bay of Plenty times you have excelled yourself, and you have the temerity to publish a vast poll of 78 people.
Can it get any worse ?
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October 19, 2016 8:10am
- alloytoo
  
  A poll of 78 people suggests that the result will be heavily swayed by self selection.
  
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  October 19, 2016 8:33am
Rich Prick

In Dunedin, child refugees Mohammed, Ali and Sayeed said they had a wonderful first day at school yesterday. Mohammed said he made a new friend, Mary (9) and all four are meeting up for a play date at Sayeed’s house on Saturaday.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu-mSWQXYAAy5OC?format=jpg&name=large
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October 19, 2016 8:13am
- stephieboy
  
  Rich Prick , did you post this yesterday or was it someone else ?
  
  Anyhow, pretty lame and pathetic becoming of a right tard like you .
  
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  October 19, 2016 8:52am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Snarky little prick comment #3
    
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    October 19, 2016 9:09am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Our Muslim-o-phile thinks our objection to Muslim child rapists is lame and pathetic. Go figure.
    
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    October 19, 2016 9:10am
    - stephieboy
      
      I hope no less so and factual than this convicted non Muslim Child Rapist ,
      
      “Child rapist Robert Burrett jailed for almost 20 years, with 10 years non-parole”
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/78775843/child-rapist-robert-burrett-jailed-for-almost-20-years
      
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      October 19, 2016 9:13am
      - Twinkletoes
        
        But at least he did not have two wives!
        
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        October 19, 2016 9:24am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    maybe, funny the second time around as well if so.
    
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    October 19, 2016 1:09pm
Happychappy

Paul Henry at his hypocritical best this morning willing to take the best praise of NZ Rugby in his interview with Nigel Owen but wants to kick players and NZ Rugby when it helps his ratings.
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October 19, 2016 8:15am
- James Stephenson
  
  You do realise that it’s possible for people and organisations to be worthy of praise for some stuff and criticism for other stuff at the same time?
  
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  October 19, 2016 8:23am
  - Happychappy
    
    I can understand your comment coming from a ex pom rugby player knowing how much you dislike the All Blacks
    
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    October 19, 2016 9:12am
    - James Stephenson
      
      I don’t “dislike” the All Blacks. I just still support England and Ireland ahead of them.
      
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      October 19, 2016 10:19am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        How does that attitude sit with the Normal Tebbit ‘cricket test’?
        
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        October 19, 2016 1:12pm
tom hunter

I realise that people are probably sick of the US elections and want them over – sadly I have to agree – but while they run it’s still worth pointing to the occasional idiocies that result.

Case in point. Needing all the votes he can get, what does Donald Trump do? He travels to Wisconsin (not won by any GOP president since Reagan in ’84) – and promptly attacks local GOP rep, Paul Ryan:

His behavior is incomprehensible to me. First of all, why is he here, three weeks before the election, when he’s down 7 points? If he was remotely serious about winning Wisconsin, why would he have spent the last 24 hours ripping Paul Ryan? Ryan got 84 percent of the vote in his district

Ah, but that’s assuming that political calculation is operating in the Trump Brain, rather than thin-skinned ego protection and the desire to stick it to anybody who is not 150% loyal to him. You’d have thought that Ryan crushing his Trump-appealing opponent in the GOP primary would have sent the message.

But that would also assume that you were dealing with something other than an unthinking loser.
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October 19, 2016 8:15am
tom hunter

Trump being a shithead loser aside, he’s not wrong about the media bias (except that’s not why he’s losing).

The latest example is a doozy:

Late Sunday evening, Washington Post reporter Chris Cillizza tweeted: “Let me say for the billionth time: Reporters don’t root for a side. Period.”

So there! From the horse’s butt as it were.

It was a hilariously ill-timed tweet, because Monday morning the Center for Public Integrity released its 2016 campaign analysis showing journalists giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

Of the 430 people CPI identified as “journalists, reporters, news editors or television news anchors — as well as other donors known to be working in journalism,” 96 percent gave money to Clinton, according to federal campaign finance filings.

Ninety six percent. And where were the contributions to Bernie? Were journalists so far in the tank for Hillary even back then? No wonder those Wall Street speeches didn’t appear until after the Democrat primary was done. The journalistic motivation to root them out via the usual “sources” conflicted with the motivation to see Hillary win.

Still, I see Bernie and his “bros” are being good, little solidarity soldiers and sticking with the Queen, even as she prepares to stab them in the back with here Goldman Sach’s sword. Delicious!

Meantime I think I’ll just cut and paste that media fact every time some left-winger tries on the old sarcastic snark about how the media is not massively biased to the left, Trump or no-Trump.
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October 19, 2016 8:23am
- Milhous
  
  The largest cable news network in the US is Fox. Yesterday Bill O Reilly, brazenly stated He doesn’t back a specific candidate and they only have neutral non politically biased guests on the show…..I almost choked on my muffin !
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:05am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Actually OReilly is pretty neutral. Hannity isn’t, but he admits he’s not a journalist but a Talk Show host so he’s open about his bias.
    Kelly certainly doesn’t like Trump.
    Fox is a mixture of News and Opinion with talk show like segments.
    
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    October 19, 2016 9:16am
- straya
  
  2 problems Tom-
  
  1. You’re conflating “journalists” with “political journalists”. There’s no evidence any of these journalists cover politics – they could cover sports for all the survey reveals.
  
  2. The number quoted is a tiny, tiny fraction of the number of journalists employed in the USA. It’s not evidence of widespread political donations by US journos.
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:09am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Translation: Nothing to see here, move along, move along.
    Heck Straya, I agree that Trump is an idiot and is going to lose but how about some objectivity?
    It’s pretty clear there are problems with bias in the Media.
    
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    October 19, 2016 9:29am
  - tom hunter
    
    Ho hum. More denial. This is only the latest of a bunch of surveys dating back years now. Not to mention other analysis that undoubtedly involved the political journalists:
    
    A study from Harvard’s Shorenstein Center of the four weeks encompassing and surrounding the two major-party political conventions makes this obvious. Trump’s news coverage during this period was 75 percent negative; the friendliest week Trump got from the media was the week of the convention itself — when it was “only” 55 percent negative.
    
    Contrast that with the treatment Hillary Clinton received in the same period, which overall was 44 percent positive. Where no news outlet in the Shorenstein study managed to get to 40 percent positive coverage of Trump, all but one (Washington Times) had 40 percent or more positive coverage of Clinton. Four of the 11 media outlets offered better than 50 percent positive coverage to Clinton. While coverage of Trump’s qualifications only generated 22 percent positive coverage, 69 percent of the coverage of Clinton’s leadership qualities was positive.
    
    Given that the Democrat convention was also divisive, right down to large numbers of Bernie Bros booing in the crowd and the DNC head being fired at the start of the convention, there’s really no other way to explain the positive/negative coverage of the two campaigns except via political and ideological bias.
    
    And then there was the WaPo “obudsman” a few years ago:
    
    I’ll bet that most Post journalists voted for [Barack] Obama. I did. There are centrists at the Post as well. But the conservatives I know here feel so outnumbered that they don’t even want to be quoted by name in a memo.”
    — Washington Post ombudsman Deborah Howell in her November 16, 2008 column.
    
    And there’s plenty more where that came from.
    
    You’re pushing shit uphill on this issue, Straya. It’s the primary reason that measures of trust in US media have fallen so low over the last twenty years. The only reason that Left-wingers still deny it exists is so they can continue putting up reports by these Journolists with the claim that they’re unbiased people whose reporting can be trusted.
    
    There are basically only three major US journalists that I “trust” :
    – Jake Tapper, liberal who votes Democrat but has always seemed tough and fair in dealing with the likes of Hillary and minions.
    
    – Sharyl Attkisson: liberal who votes Democrat, although perhaps less so after her treatement at CBS, where her desire to investigate the Obama administration ran into a lot of opposition.
    
    – Megyn Kelly: somewhat right-wing on several issues and likely GOP voter, but who has earned the hatred of Trumpitistas by refusing to grease the Great Man’s pole. Would that there were journalists who’d treated Obama the same way.
    
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    October 19, 2016 9:51am
    - Griff
      
      Journalist are Democrats .
      Quelle surprise.
      Here is an even more amusing one to ponder.
      Educated people lean democrat .
      The more educated the more Democrat.
      Why ?
      Because reality has a liberal bias…..
      
      http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/
      
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      October 19, 2016 11:44am
      - tom hunter
        
        White voters with college degrees of all ages have been a mainstay of the Republican Party for five decades or more now, voting in greater numbers for the GOP than for the Democrats.
        
        Only this year has that link been broken, thanks to Trump. Hence your link’s reference to…
        
        A new analysis of long-term trends in party affiliation
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        The Democrats’ edge is narrower among those with college degrees or some post-graduate experience (49%-42%),
        
        Post-graduate degrees, sure. But I just thought you’d like to process that historic fact through your braindead bigotry, Griff. People-press.org. Chuckle. You should have gone with Mediamatters, like Stephieboy.
        
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        October 19, 2016 12:23pm
      - tom hunter
        
        Oh – and one more thing, since you’re claiming that there’s a link between intelligence=>”liberal”=>journalists being “liberal”
        
        All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus.
        
        Now they don’t. They call us to explain to them what’s happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.
        
        That’s Obama security advisor, Ben Rhodes, explaining how he was able to fool all those “liberal” journalists over the Iran nucelar deal.
        
        Come on Griff – tell us again how super intelligent left-wingers are – especially the ones who join ACT.
        
        ROFLMAO. That’s your call-sign isn’t it?
        
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        October 19, 2016 12:29pm
      - Griff
        
        Oh – and one more thing, since you’re claiming that there’s a link between intelligence=>”liberal”=>journalists being “liberal”
        
        Getting carried away Tommy …
        Where did I say that ?
        Left winger ?
        Depends on how you define it.
        “Conservative “in the usa context?
        No fuckin way I am a liberal .
        Right economic social liberal same as this blog its owner and this country..
        Also a realist not someone who thinks ideology trumps all evidence.
        
        Like.
        
        Only this year has that link been broken,
        
        Facts please rather than spurting bullshit pulled from WWWoutyourarse.com
        http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/party-identification-trends-1992-2014/
        
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        October 19, 2016 1:17pm
      - Griff
        
        People-press.org. Chuckle.
        
        From Pew research chuckle .
        You are acting like a wingnut gibbering about the liberal media Rather than the source of the information contained in the link.
        Grow up Tommy .
        
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        October 19, 2016 1:27pm
- Fletch
  
  According to the Wikileaks emails, journalists also attended a dinner at a top Clinton staffers home two days before Clinton announced her candidacy.
  
  REPORTER RSVPs
  
  YES
  1. ABC – Cecilia Vega
  2. ABC – David Muir
  3. ABC – Diane Sawyer
  4. ABC – George Stephanoplous [sic]
  5. ABC – Jon Karl
  6. Bloomberg – John Heillman [sic]
  7. Bloomberg – Mark Halperin
  8. CBS – Norah O’Donnell
  9. CBS – Vicki Gordon
  10. CNN – Brianna Keilar
  11. CNN – David Chalian
  12. CNN – Gloria Borger
  13. CNN – Jeff Zeleny
  14. CNN – John Berman
  15. CNN – Kate Bouldan [sic]
  16. CNN – Mark Preston
  17. CNN – Sam Feist
  18. Daily Beast – Jackie Kucinich
  19. GPG – Mike Feldman
  20. Huffington Post – Whitney Snyder
  21. MORE – Betsy Fisher Martin
  22. MSNBC – Alex Wagner
  23. MSNBC – Beth Fouhy
  24. MSNBC – Phil Griffin
  25. MSNBC – Rachel Maddow (TBD)
  26. MSNBC – Rachel Racusen
  27. NBC – Savannah Gutherie [sic]
  28. New Yorker – Ryan Liza [sic]
  29. NYT – Amy Chozik [sic]
  30. NYT – Gail Collins
  31. NYT – Jonathan Martin
  32. NYT – Maggie Haberman
  33. NYT – Pat Healey [sic]
  34. PEOPLE – Sandra Sobieraj Westfall
  35. POLITICO – Glenn Thrush
  36. POLITICO – Mike Allen
  37. VICE – Alyssa Mastramonoco [sic]
  38. VOX – Jon Allen
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/17/wikileaks-journalists-clinton-staff-homes-before-hillarys-campaign-launch/
  
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  October 19, 2016 11:07am
  - Manolo
    
    The MSM is not only in bed: all these hacks are being mounted by the Clinton machine.
    
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    October 19, 2016 11:10am
Happychappy

I see the Herald’s Editorial this morning has obviously had Labour spokesperson’s Grant Robertson view as they want to see the National pay back debt before giving tax cuts.They maintain that Cullen left National ten billion in the kitty when Labour lost power and that Helen Clark offered Interest Free Loans to counter Don Brash with his promised tax cuts.I find they mention this to combat tax cuts but don’t mention the actual cost of what interest free loans has had on the Government finance’s.You read this column and you would think after listening to Grant Roberson in Parliament Question Time this has been Penned by him
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October 19, 2016 8:34am
- VicParking
  
  The failing newspaper stated that the reason the Government had a surplus was that the last Labour government left them with such a small debt level.
  Dont let earthquakes and financial crisis’s spool at good story
  
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  October 19, 2016 11:01am
  - slijmbal
    
    Do we remember that, courtesy of Cullen’s horrendous spending, NZ entered recession ahead of the GFC?
    
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    October 19, 2016 1:26pm
wiseowl

I went to a bar last night thinking I could pick up a nice chick or two.
Approached a few and asked if I could kiss their cheek and was declined.Others I asked if I could grab their breast. Even offered to get a consent form signed by them ,to no avail.

Was about to grab a nice fat ass but thought that would be discriminating in some way or another .

Oh well, that’s it. I’m converting to Islam.
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October 19, 2016 8:36am
- stephieboy
  
  wiseowl, speaking of groping breasts etc are you a Trump Supporter by chance ?
  
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  October 19, 2016 8:56am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    On that logic you must like murdering people and destroying countries, supporting genocide because you are Hillary supporter.
    
    Also covering and enabling you husband’s rapes of interns and other subordinate women.
    
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    October 19, 2016 9:54am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  As-salamu alaykum friend.
  
  Please visit us at the Mt Roskill Mosque, for a fast and painless conversion.
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:02am
- Rich Prick
  
  wiseowl, conversion is a great idea, and once you do convert you’re free to throw a sheet over the ones you don’t like the look of.
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:16am
  - wiseowl
    
    I dream of being on TV3’s “Story” with my two wives and being interviewed by HDA who will be jealous and may consider becoming number three.
    
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    October 19, 2016 10:27am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Just don’t hit one of them with a hammer. HDA gets upset when the others miss out.
      
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      October 19, 2016 10:35am
- tom hunter
  
  Don’t convert to Islam. Become a Democrat speech writer for Barack Obama and all will be forgiven.
  
  Here’s one of those speechwriters, Jon Favreau, <a href="http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/boobgrab.jpg, celebrating Obama’s win in the 2008 primaries by laughingly grabbing the boob of a Hillary cardboard cutout, with a beer in the other hand. Very Trumpish!
  
  Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck. And he gets away with it, as Democrats are wont to do.
  
  And don’t say misogyny.
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:32am
- Fletch
  
  You just don’t have Bill Clinton’s charm or money ….
  
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  October 19, 2016 11:09am
RF

Happychappy. Sweet cheeks is still waiting in the wings hoping for Little to fall over. He will grab every opportunity to get his name in print.
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October 19, 2016 8:41am
- stigie
  
  The Wn Fairy as labour’s finance spokesperson is just not in the same league as Bill English !~
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:00am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    When the tea towel idea crashed and burned, the little fat wellington fairy went out and got 1,000 T shirts printed up; they read’ six months ago I couldn’t even spell Minister of Finance and now I are one!’
    
    Sales not going too well apparently
    
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    October 19, 2016 1:17pm
Captain Mainwaring

Apparently Labour is ‘relaxed’ about the upcoming visit by the American warship.
Of course any other position would only have accelerated their slide in the polls but the dead rat must have taken a fair bit of swallowing.
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October 19, 2016 8:44am
- Paulus
  
  But Greenpeace are not and will do a gross protest embarrassing to New Zealand.
  But what can you expect from the Aussie communist Russel Borman.
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:03am
Manolo

Taking the piss:
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2016/10/17/trump-billboard-dearborn-arabic/92286422/
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October 19, 2016 8:48am
Tauhei Notts

Is Lydia Ko the first?
I heard on National Socialist Radio this morning that she had dismissed her caddy after several sub par rounds.
I can understand her getting rid of her caddy is she can’t make par, but that comment by the sports reporter beggars belief.
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October 19, 2016 9:00am
waikatogirl

Cities who understand how much a shipload of sailors is worth to the local economy will be more than happy to receive a visit from the American warship.
I hope there are no rabid protestors to welcome it, but I’m guessing that will be too much to expect from our local lefty rabble.
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October 19, 2016 9:01am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  They will make it past the protesters easily, nothing new there; it is the additional beggars in the labeled clothing and footwear that will proliferate and line Queen Street that will be the difficulty.
  
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  October 19, 2016 1:20pm
Manolo

Anyone remembers Marie Antoniette Obama and the “Save the girls” campaign?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/18/third-of-students-abducted-by-boko-haram-unwilling-to-leave-captors

More than a third of almost 300 female students abducted by Islamic militants from a school in Nigeria two-and-a-half years ago appear unwilling to leave their captors, a community leader has said.
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October 19, 2016 9:03am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, are you disappointed that Obama, unlike possibly Trump, failed to Nuke Boko Harum along with their captives ?
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:18am
tom hunter

One of the funny aspects of the US election has been the angst that the Democrats are going through in trying to decide whether to tie Trump to the GOP – or not.

Now at the local levels of House and Senate seats, that approach is a no-brainer; any Democrat will want to smear their GOP opponent as being a mini-Trump.

But at the national level, which is to say the Hillary level, it’s a tougher decision. Were she a good political candidate she’d probably be criss-crossing the country right now and hammering the GOP as the Trump Party; just absolutely sticking it to potential GOP voters about what scumbags they are.

But she’s a weak candidate who has always played it safe, so she’s afraid of burning off GOP voters who might vote for her. So she swings back and forth, mainly back, on this tactic. She’s apologised for the “Deplorables” remark and, together with Obama, made sweet talk about how the average Republican loves their country, their fellow Americans, their familes (and their dogs and cats too I assume).

The other factor she’s probably realised is that it would not work anyway: in race after face it would appear that ticket-splitting is happening, and that Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump are still supporting their local GOP rep. In other words, they regard Trump as something unique and not representative of the GOP – and Hillary’s letting them get away with that because she’s too weak not to.
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October 19, 2016 9:07am
straya

Good news Trumpkins!

The fight back begins – up by three in Texas! Thank you Lone Star state!

http://www.uh.edu/class/hobby/texas2016/
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October 19, 2016 9:11am
AgentBallSack

I will be going to the port if the warship comes to Wellington to welcome our American overlords.

Just kidding – they’re some awesome pieces of technology. And I may be able to push some stinking hippies into the harbour or even better into the propellers.
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October 19, 2016 9:14am
tom hunter

Here’s an example from Minnesota.

In fact, Paulsen leads among both male and female voters surveyed in the 3rd District. He has a 17-point lead over Bonoff among men, 53 percent to 36 percent, and a five-point lead among women, 45 percent to 40 percent. By contrast, Clinton has a narrow one-point lead over Trump among men, 40 percent to 39 percent, and a whopping lead among women, 55 percent to 32 percent.

Trump is losing huge in the same district where the GOP representative is winning (albeit narrowly).

Got that Trumpistas?

Trump has no coatails and is actively attacking the Republican Party, which makes the distancing even easier – and makes Hillary’s approach the smart one, rather than the scorched earth campaign her fellow Democrats are gagging for.

Understand politics a little better now?

No?

No lessons learned? The Colin Craig lesson was not enough? The Nov 8 catastrophe that awaits you is not enough? Nothing is enough to learn from?

Oh well. The good news is that after this, you’ll either have to STFU and get onboard the sometimes annoying and frustrating mainstream GOPe (yes, I know, they piss me off too) – or spend the rest of your lives howling into the icy void while Hillary, Chuck Schumer and Nancy ream you unmercifully without lube.

The bad news is that the latter prospect is probably the more attractive for you.
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October 19, 2016 9:24am
- deadrightkev
  
  You are quite a confused man aren’t you tom.
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:26am
  - tom hunter
    
    Not so confused that I lack arguments.
    
    And since you have no arguments to make, could you at least come up with better snark or insults? Are you intellectually incapable of even that much?
    
    And you are sticking around here for a while after Nov 8, no? You are actually going to act like a man and take the beatings, yes?
    
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    October 19, 2016 10:34am
Manolo

A good read on two deeply-flawed candidates:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441126/donald-trump-conservatives-should-vote-president

Obama’s unconstitutional executive overreach would be the model for Hillary’s second wave of pen-and-phone executive orders. If, in Obama fashion, the debt doubled again in eight years, we would be in hock $40 trillion after paying for Hillary’s even more grandiose entitlements of free college tuition, student-loan debt relief, and open borders.
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October 19, 2016 9:24am
EAD

At least they admit it.

Former Hungarian Intel chief says that it was decided by the elites and “international capital groups” that to achieve the total control they want they deliberately decided “to dilute the populations of Europe.”

His exact words are at 2:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5CQDhgKD-8

It’s amazing that it has taken this long for such prominent persons to see this, when us “conspiracy theorists” have seen it for so long

Top rated comment:

It cannot end this way. It must not end this way. Thousands of years of development and advancement, destroyed at the hands of a few greedy people.

Perhaps the saddest thing is watching people cowed into silence over the destruction of their once formerly safe & prosperous nations for fear of being called a so called “waycist.

As Trump said last Thursday – “ignore it, they’ve got nothing else except the same tired old words. We’ve got truth and history on our side.”
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October 19, 2016 9:35am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Yep, (((Globalist Elite))) like Farrar are running scared now.
  
  White Western populations are finally waking up to the destruction of their culture and history.
  
  Make America Great Again.
  
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  October 19, 2016 9:54am
  - wiseowl
    
    Make New Zealand Great Again!
    
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    October 19, 2016 10:31am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Anyone noticed how #BLM thugs have suddenly vanished from the mainstream media after 24 7 coverage?

Billionaire globalist and pro immigration (((Soros))) must have realised they were a liability during US election time and put them on the back burner.
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October 19, 2016 9:39am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

LOL, this guy is hilarious:

Godfrey Elfwick ‏@GodfreyElfwick 17m17 minutes ago

“What the UK needs, is more millionaire celebrities telling middle to low income earners how they should feel about immigration.”
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October 19, 2016 9:47am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Syrian “children” refugees look more like adults. More (((Globalist pro immigration))) propaganda:

“The Home Office has no way of verifying the age of child refugees being brought to the UK, it has emerged amid concerns that adults are posing as minors to gain access to Britain.

Fourteen “teenagers” on Monday arrived in the UK from Calais as a fast-track system was launched to transfer youngsters from the “Jungle” camp before it is demolished.

The Home Office insisted it had “verified” the ages of all the refugees and that all of those who were brought to the UK were aged between 14 and 17.

Home Office documents show that if a refugee does not have a birth certificate, a Home Office screening officer can certify them as a child based on their “physical appearance” or “demeanour”.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/17/from-the-calais-jungle-to-croydon-migrant-children-arrive-in-bri/
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October 19, 2016 9:50am
- Rich Prick
  
  32 is the new 14. By the way, are there no girls in Islam?
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:04am
  - VicParking
    
    Of course not. By 14 they are all married with two kid and hammer marks
    
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    October 19, 2016 11:07am
  - kowtow
    
    That will be the second wave. Once established they bring the rest of the hordes with them. This will be never ending. Thanks to our ruling elites. It’s “progressive” you see.
    
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    October 19, 2016 11:31am
    - Albert_Ross
      
      This is happening in the UK, where they have a different system to us. “Our ruling elites” are not doing this.
      
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      October 19, 2016 12:46pm
Stars And Stripes

Migrants ‘crowding out’ young Kiwis from jobs – Salvation Army
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11730577

All sounds nice but coming from the Salvation Army, yeah whatever.
One of the biggest supporters in NZ of the unemployable and useless is worried about migrants taking their jobs.
I am sure they are only talking about rich skilled immigrants but if it was all poor third world immigrants or refugees it would not be a problem.
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October 19, 2016 9:52am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  That’s because young kiwis don’t have a daddy on the mainland that will pay for their apartment and modest Lexus while they “work” a minimum wage job, like a barista or waitress to get perm-residence so daddy can stash his money in NZ and then retire like a boss.
  
  The poor migrants are not the issue. They are not competitive because the have an even lower level of education than the locals.
  
  There drop some truth bombs for you.
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:03am
  - VicParking
    
    NZ kids are to busy collecting the dole to travel out of the city and work a 8 hour day. Also no P dealer living next door in central Otago.
    
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    October 19, 2016 11:10am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Central Otago is hardly the issue here. Have you seen Auckland lately? We have shops that have no English signage and no prices in English.
      
      Come for a visit, I’ll show you if you don’t believe me.
      
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      October 19, 2016 11:26am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Chinese have a joke name for this practice of hanging out in non-ideal circumstances to get residency or citizenship; “immigration prison”
    
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    October 19, 2016 2:36pm
Manolo

The nefarious hand of the clown John Kerry?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article108908532.html

Wikileaks said Tuesday that Secretary of State John Kerry asked Ecuador to stop founder Julian Assange from publishing leaked emails that could disrupt peace negotiations with a guerrilla group in Colombia.

Assange, who has been in refuge in Ecuador’s embassy in London for more than four years, saw his access to the internet cut over the weekend.
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October 19, 2016 9:59am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Translation:
  
  We’re about to destabilize Colombia.
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:12am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, but not his servers !
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:13am
Manolo

Will she die in office or is she fit as a fiddle?
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/emails-hillary-needs-podium-speak/

Emails obtained by Citizens United through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request and released on Tuesday suggest that walking around a stage may have been a challenging burden for Hillary Clinton as early as 2009.
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October 19, 2016 10:09am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, pretty lame stuff there that stretches it to trivial insignificance .
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:23am
  - Manolo
    
    Do you reckon the crook will survive four grueling years as president? Shall we wage a few dollars on Clinton’s health?
    
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    October 19, 2016 10:27am
    - deadrightkev
      
      She wont be president if it comes down to legitimate voting. She has been hard at work trying to rig the election in lost of ways but it won’t be enough.
      
      Even the polling samples have proven to be inflated Democrats plus 10-20%.
      
      The neighborhoods in battleground states (according to people in the US I actually know) are covered in Trump signs and Trump is turning people away from rallies. Clinton and Kaine cannot muster anymore than 200 people.
      
      When Obama was the change candidate in 2008 he also had lots of supporters signs everywhere and had packed rallies. He won.
      
      So will Trump if it comes down to voting.
      
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      October 19, 2016 10:39am
      - tom hunter
        
        She has been hard at work trying to rig the election in lost of ways but it won’t be enough.
        
        Thank goodness for that. When Trump loses huge on Nov 8, I won’t have to put up with loser whining about rigged elections.
        
        When Obama was the change candidate in 2008 he also had lots of supporters signs everywhere and had packed rallies. He won.
        
        He also had:
        – 1 billion dollars in funding, which he spent on blanket TV advertising in battleground states
        – the most comprehensive voting database in history.
        – an army of people on the ground, using that database to winkle out every last voter they could.
        
        None of which Trump has.
        
        More lessons in wining and losing votes needed. Painful lessons it would seem. More painful than Colin Craig delivered.
        
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        October 19, 2016 11:32am
AgentBallSack

Has mikenmild reached 25K comments and left us?
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October 19, 2016 10:17am
- Manolo
  
  Not at all. Mike is attending a PSA conference in a luxury resort in Queenstown to discuss Labour tactics and how to save the proletarians vis-à-vis the 2017 election.
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:20am
  - stephieboy
    
    Manolo and ABS, note mm’s comments are only marginally ahead or behind yours,Manolo.
    
    Perhaps he sees the wisdom in not bothering to engage with tards who infest KB like you two.
    
    BTW what has become of that other prolific right tard Shawn Herles ?
    
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    October 19, 2016 10:28am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      LMAO tards that infest Kiwiblog like you two.
      
      You crack me up stephie!
      
      You’ll never go to heaven at this rate!
      
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      October 19, 2016 10:45am
deadrightkev

Still no post from DPF on the video showing the Clinton campaign paying mentally ill people to do bad shit at Trump rallies.

Cmon DPF show the team you can do investigative journalism. Even the Royal NZ Herald published this video albeit buried well down in the playlist for obvious reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
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October 19, 2016 10:32am
- Manolo
  
  I doubt DPF will ever publish an openly anti-Clinton post.
  In fact, I dare to say he will not! 😀
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:37am
- ste3e
  
  So Trump supporters are actually Clinton plants. How else could anyone stomach the fool.
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:56am
stephieboy

deadrightkev, vintage James O’ Keefe stuff peddling lies and disinfo though heavily edited and doctored video ,

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe

He idiotically dressed up as Osama Bin Laden to suggest that Mexican border is totally insecure . However he deceptively chose a remote border entry to test his lunacy . !
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October 19, 2016 10:37am
- Manolo
  
  Whatever does not fit your narrative is either “heavily edited” or “doctored”.
  You really have a totalitarian mindset, stephieboy.
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:40am
  - stephieboy
    
    Manolo, the facts are is that James O’keefe is notorious for presenting heavily edited videos with his unsuspecting victims / interviewees distorting or fabricating what they actually have said ,
    
    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/10/06/james-okeefe-brings-his-dishonest-doctored-vide/201026
    
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    October 19, 2016 10:48am
- deadrightkev
  
  Even you cannot deny this video is legit.
  
  Anyone else standing for president would be gone by lunchtime over this scandal. It would be front page of every paper in the US if it was Trump.
  
  It is starting to go viral and Trump is actually posting it as well so expect it to come up at the debate.
  
  The days of Clinton grinning and grinding her way through are over. There is too much shit coming and not before time.
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:43am
- AgentBallSack
  
  So you think illegals are just going to walk through the heaviest guarded parts of the border? Does that even make sense in stephiebitch world?
  
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  October 19, 2016 10:50am
  - stephieboy
    
    Not dressed up as Osama Bin Laden , thicko !
    
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    October 19, 2016 11:09am
stephieboy

drk, if the video is by Project Veritas ( James Okeefe ) then we have every right to treat as suspect for the above reasons I have linked d to .
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October 19, 2016 10:51am
- Fletch
  
  stephieboy, as I asked yesterday, you tell me which way the video could have been edited to take what those people are saying out of context? One of the subjects in the video, Scott Foval, has already been fired.
  
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  October 19, 2016 11:13am
ste3e

Has anyone researched what percentage of family violence offenders are also criminals? Or does the govt. think they will reduce crime by introducing a new cohort of offenders to incarceration? Still Serco must be happy, a new market demographic!
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October 19, 2016 10:51am
- Gabby
  
  Roughly 100% I’d guess.
  
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  October 19, 2016 8:19pm
stephieboy

James O’Keefe’s October Surprise Shows He’s Still A Hack, Not A Journalist

Self-described “guerilla journalist” James O’Keefe is threatening a “big release” of “behind close doors” video footage he claims will target Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign. But media shouldn’t buy O’Keefe’s “reporting.” Since 2009, he has repeatedly pushed misleading and doctored “undercover” videos and embarrassed himself while attempting to launch sting operations targeting government agencies, media outlets, and liberal organizations and institutions.

Poject Veritas has left behind a trail of misleading videos with heavily doctored content that have included fines and personal retractions and apologies by O’ Keefe .

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/12/james-okeefes-anti-clinton-october-surprise-shows-hes-still-hack-not-journalist/213783
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October 19, 2016 11:10am
- Fletch
  
  stephie, bullshit. O’Keefe’s videos aren’t “heavily doctored”. In fact, he uploaded the total unedited Planned Parenthood sting videos last time and a security expert has validated them.
  
  WASHINGTON – Coalfire Systems, a highly accredited forensic analysis and cybersecurity company that does work for Fortune 500 companies, issued a report Monday which found that 10 full-footage videos the Center for Medical Progress recorded while undercover at Planned Parenthood facilities and related locations “are authentic and show no evidence of manipulation or editing.”
  
  “This conclusion is supported by the consistency of the video file date and time stamps, the video timecode, as well as the folder and file naming scheme,” the report states. “The uniformity between the footage from Investigator 1’s camera and Investigator 2’s camera also support the evidence that the video recordings are authentic.” The report also confirms that “edits made to the Full Footage videos [for the shorter YouTube videos] were applied to eliminate non-pertinent footage, such as restroom breaks, meals, and other similar periods lacking pertinent conversation.”
  
  http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/9764
  
  Left wing journalists often accuse these types of videos of being “edited”, but they never mention in what context. How would they have been edited to show the subject saying something other than what is shown? In the newest videos, Foval talks about sending in people to incite violence and get themselves beat up on video. There isn’t any way to edit him to put those words in his mouth.
  
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  October 19, 2016 11:17am
  - stephieboy
    
    O’keefe and Planned Parenthood ,
    
    “In 2006 and 2007, O’Keefe teamed up with pro-life activist Lila Rose, helping her plan and produce two sting operations against reproductive healthcare provider Planned Parenthood.
    
    For the first clandestine operation, O’Keefe and Rose went to two Planned Parenthood clinics in greater Los Angeles in March 2007 and one in Santa Monica in May 2007, secretly taping counseling sessions in which Rose, then aged 18, posed as a pregnant 15-year-old girl seeking an abortion and O’Keefe posed as her 23-year-old boyfriendhe goal was to catch (or some might say entrap) employees saying things that made it look like they are willing to let statutory rape go unreported.
    
    The second sting operation Rose and O’Keefe collaborated on involved O’Keefe phoning regional Planned Parenthood offices in Idaho, Ohio, New Mexico, and Oklahoma in the summer of 2007, posing as a racist interested in making a donation “specifically for the abortions of African-Americanbabies.”[9][10][11] The intent was to prove that Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger (true), an advocate of eugenics (true), with the intent of wiping out the black race (false), a claim commonly propagated by pro-life activists. When Rose’s anti-abortion group, Live Action (to which O’Keefe served as an advisor), released the calls in early 2008, it resulted in Autumn Kersey, a Planned Parenthood representative who answered the call to the Idaho office, being suspended from her job.[12] Rose admitted that her group deliberately targeted Planned Parenthood offices in states where it is legal to record a telephone conversation without the other party’s consent.“
    
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe#Planned_Parenthood
    
    O’keefe doctoring video leaving out relevant and important details ,
    
    O’Keefe’s “Voter Fraud” Video Showed “Dead” Voter Later Found To Be Very Much Alive, “Non-Citizens” Who Were Actually Citizens. A May 2012 video O’Keefe claimed showed voter fraud in North Carolina, including “ballots being offered out in the name of the dead” and “non-citizens voting,” was found to have edited out some important facts — the “dead” voter from the video was not actually dead, and the “non-citizen” in the video had become a U.S. citizen decades earlier. Upon viewing the raw footage from the “voter fraud” video, Media Matters found that O’Keefe had edited out an important exchange in which the undercover operative clarified he was actually seeking the ballot of the deceased man’s living son, who was registered to vote at the same address and shared his late father’s name. ThinkProgress similarly debunked O’Keefe’s claims of “non-citizens” voting in the video, noting that “a simple Nexis search” of one man’s name showed that he and his wife were naturalized citizens, and that a second man, who was reportedly harassed with anonymous phone calls about his citizenship prior to the video, had become a naturalized citizen the previous year. ThinkProgress concluded that “the one instance in the video where O’Keefe purports to show that a non-citizen had actually voted, in fact shows that a citizen voted.” [ThinkProgress, 5/15/12, 5/16/12; Media Matters, 5/16/12]
    
    https://thinkprogress.org/fact-check-non-citizen-voter-in-james-o-keefe-s-voter-fraud-video-is-actually-a-citizen-c979dd4c9ef0#.j0vggoqya
    
    More heavily edited video content ,
    
    Yet Another “Voter Fraud” Video Failed To Show Any Actual Voter Fraud; It “Just Shows How Limited O’Keefe’s Talents Are.” Over the course of several months in 2012, Project Veritas released videos O’Keefe claimed proved “widespread voter fraud” in several states and the District of Columbia. As several media outlets quickly pointed out in response to one of the videos in which an undercover actor appears to obtain a ballot posing as former Attorney General Eric Holder, the heavily edited videos do not, in fact, show any instances of voter fraud or voting at all. Instead, the videos showed actors almost committing a crime by attempting to falsely claim ballots, and illustrated how difficult it would be to commit actual voter fraud. As politics writer Alex Koppelman explained in The New Yorker (emphasis added):
    
    https://thinkprogress.org/james-okeefe-s-group-appears-to-commit-voter-fraud-in-order-to-gin-up-hysteria-over-non-existent-d8eeefb13bc#.ckhzndyli
    
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    October 19, 2016 12:26pm
- tom hunter
  
  Mediamatters denigrating “hacks”.
  
  Muhahahahahahahahah.
  
  BTW, here’s a photo of the Clinton suckhole who set up Mediamatters to defend all things Clinton and corrupt.
  
  Look at him FFS. Jesus, that’s scary.
  
  Fuck me but you are partisan tool in extremis, Stephieboy – as well as being a low-IQ moron.
  
  I notice no Democrat ever has any problems with “editing” when it comes to the MSM’s video coverage. Always loved that “edit” of Obama talking about terrorism and Benghazi that somehow sat on the CBS editing room floor until two days before the 2012 election. They showed the rest of the interview weeks earlier of course.
  
  But no “unfair” editing there in the eyes of Mediamatters. No sirree, Bob.
  
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  October 19, 2016 11:22am
  - stephieboy
    
    tom hunter , just busy yourself by responding to this requested of you before ,
    
    RONALD REAGAN’S BENGHAZI
    
    http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/ronald-reagans-benghazi
    
    The lethal attack on the US Beirut Embassy 1983 that left 17 US Embassy staff dead
    
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    October 19, 2016 12:33pm
    - tom hunter
      
      I must admit that I’ve ignored your endless repetition of that article – mainly because it’s you, Kiwblog’s Dumbest Commentator – but also because I’d hoped that someone else would tackle it. But since they haven’t…
      
      First up, the approach of successive US Presidents towards ME terrorism prior to the 9/11 attacks was to treat them as one-offs that were not worth countering in any coordinated way outside of an FBI crime investigation. Reagan dealt with the Marine bombing as Bush I did and as Clinton did with other terrorist attacks over the next two decades. He withdrew troops and relied on the CIA to counter the likes of the PLO or whatever other secular groups might have pulled it off. Same with embassy attacks.
      
      Which brings me to the second point: back in 1983 Islamic Jihadism was a complete afterthought for the FBI, CIA and the rest. So much so that they still weren’t thinking along those lines a decade later when the first WTC attacks occurred (I suggest you read Willful Blindness for the detail on this whole approach). Only in the wake of that attack did some thinking begin to run along those lines. But in 1983 it was assumed to be the PLO or some other weird, little Arab terrorist group and there was nothing much to be done. The shrugged shoulder’s reaction was bipartisan because the thinking was bipartisan.
      
      And that thinking continued right through the Clinton administration. Even as the Islamic aspect began to be acknowledged it was not regarded as anything serious. That’s why there was no outrage or massive investigations from GOP politicians – even though they controlled the Senate and the House – into those Clinton administration security lapses in the late 1990’s.
      
      Naturally Mayer does not mention that. That would spoil the narrative she wants to flog to partisans like you.
      
      Like everybody else, including Clinton and dating back to Reagan, they just assumed it was no particularly unusual lapse in security or anything else. Just another crime that needed to be doggedly tracked down.
      
      But because Jane Mayer is a hideously partisan creep she chooses to ignore all of that subtle history from a completely different time and tries to compare apples and oranges. And she can get away with it because she’s appealing to the brain-dead bigotry of Democrat Party shills like you. She knows you’ll swallow it hook, line and sinker.
      
      How bad is this “journalist”. Well, here’s one other classic example, from 2011, where she wrote an article in the “prestigious” New Yorker about a North Carolina Republican named Art Pope. The article was titled, “State For Sale” and claimed that Pope “bought” the 2010 elections in North Carolina by contributing to conservative organizations and candidates. The artwork of the article, showing Pope with wads of cash in his pocket, told you everything you needed to know about Jane Mayer’s “journalism” credibilty (and the New Yorker‘s). As one response put it:
      
      Mayer, Maddow, and HuffPo never bother to mention that Pope was not the largest donor to all those “affiliated” groups. Far more importantly, Mayer never bothers to reveal that the $2 million/“three-quarters of the outside money!” was merely one-fifteenth of the total political spending for those races. While breathlessly repeating every number she can find about Pope and his friends’ giving, Mayer suppresses these more important numbers, all much larger than $2 million:
      
      –the total political giving in those races from all sources: $30 million
      
      –the outspending of Democrats over Republicans ($16 million to $14 million)
      
      Nor does Mayer make any attempt to total up the spending done by left-wing versus right-wing public policy groups in North Carolina, which would show an even larger skewing toward the left, though in her single concession to context and accuracy, Mayer does quote Art Pope saying that the Z. Smith Reynolds Foundation spends more money than he does, most of it going to “progressive social-welfare organizations.” (In the previous election cycle, the John Locke Foundation, a Pope-funded think tank, calculated that the left outspent the right by roughly three to one in (c)3 + (c)4 policy-oriented giving.)
      
      Mayer’s portrait of Pope is sharply defined and ugly; her portrait of North Carolina and its left-of-center donors, almost nonexistent. Yet Mayer lacks any excuse for not providing the numbers – other than the fact that they make her thesis laughable – because Pope and various staffers at organizations he funds spent many hours submitting to interviews, phone calls, and emails from Mayer and the New Yorker, during which they repeatedly presented her with all the data.
      
      A liar. A bald-faced liar. Bias does not even cover that sort of deception. Liar does. Jane Mayer habitually lies through her teeth – using the standard approach of telling half-truths, like Chomsky, in order to advance left-wing causes.
      
      A “reporter” who was willing to make that argument about Pope is a reporter more than willing to tell half-truths about the distant past of Reagan and terrorism in the 1980’s in order to defend her ugly Democrat friends clusterfuckups in the present.
      
      And because you are both a partisan left-winger and an aging brain-dead moron who never reads outside of Mediamatters, you don’t know and you don’t care about any of this.
      
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      October 19, 2016 1:13pm
Fletch

btw, O’Keefe’s second video has been released today, showing the same team discussing ways to commit voter fraud. eg, Foval talks about bringing in fake voters from out-of-state in their own cars, or renting cars for them, instead of being bussed in, which is too obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
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October 19, 2016 11:19am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , kindly refer to my post at 12.26 pm
  
  Then once read go and figure why we could never really Trust James O ‘Keefe especially using undercover actors and voter fraud allegations ?
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:30pm
Stars And Stripes

Mangere toddler shooting: Dad charged with manslaughter over death of daughter
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11731021
“Police allege Sanft, 26, shot the little girl in the head at close range with a sawn-off shotgun in the driveway of the home”.

What a winner.
Sawn off shotgun, no firearms licence and one dead child.
Darwin award coming your way.
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October 19, 2016 11:39am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  South Auckland, anyone surprised..?
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:02pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Stars and Stripes , I understand that you too live South Auckland ?
    
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    October 19, 2016 12:31pm
- Inandout
  
  He doesn’t seem too concerned, standing outside the court with his other overweight cuzzies. Just another day on the dole. I thought only rednecks walk around with shotguns, or so we are told.
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:07pm
rangitoto

Parata not standing at next election.
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October 19, 2016 11:56am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

O’Keefe video gets another scalp!!

This Demo scum bag has resigned:

Just shortly after posting video #2 earlier this afternoon, Project Veritas has claimed its second victim as Bob Creamer has announced he will be “stepping back from my responsibilities working the [Hillary] campaign.”

This scalp yesterday:

… “Americans United for Change has always operated according to the highest ethical standards. Scott Foval is no longer associated with Americans United for Change.”…

…perhaps the more disturbing revelation from the first video was that one agitator, Zulema Rodriguez, who admitted to inciting “violent protests” that forced Trump to cancel a Chicago rally back in March, was paid directly by the Hillary campaign just a few weeks before that event. In fact, according to data from the Federal Election Commission, Zulema has been collecting fees from a lot of political organizations recently…turns out that picking fights at Republican rallies is a lucrative business…who knew? …

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-18/massive-voter-fraud-exposed-project-veritas-part-2-weve-been-busing-people-around-50
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October 19, 2016 11:58am
- Inandout
  
  Stephie is furiously trawling the Islamic Records Depository for a rebuttal.
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:10pm
- Rich Prick
  
  It gives me much joy to see these democrat scumbags exposed. The voter fraud video is gobsmacking, I wonder what the real election results were over the last few elections?
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:29pm
starboard

“http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/85504762/hekia-parata-not-standing-in-next-years-election”

No great loss, always thought she was out of her depth and a bit of a liability for Key,
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October 19, 2016 11:58am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The National Party renewal continues.
  Meanwhile over at the Labour trough……………..?
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:02pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  The education system is a nest of Leftist snakes, any right winger is deep into enemy territory when they accept the education portfolio.
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:04pm
  - doggone7
    
    The education system is no more a nest of Leftist snakes than it has ever been.
    
    How come all the brilliant minds came out of that system then given the unending parade of erudition on these boards?
    
    No chocolate fish to any who proffer that they are brilliant in spite of teachers.
    
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    October 19, 2016 3:58pm
  - sam green
    
    Still no jobs in physics teaching then Jazz Hands?
    
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    October 19, 2016 9:16pm
- rangitoto
  
  She did get a good hit on Material a while back in QT. Material asked a question in halting Maori as she does and Parata fielded it in fluent Maori leaving Material looking even more like a slack jawed loon than usual.
  
  Edit – sorry Starboard. Hit the report button on your post by accident.
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:25pm
  - starboard
    
    No sweat Rangitoto…
    
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    October 19, 2016 1:28pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  education and health are the two hardest portfolios to manage – being endlessly hammered by complaints by media and workers. Hekia has (a few cockups not-withstanding) handled it reasonably well.
  
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  October 19, 2016 2:45pm
Manolo

More than 17,000 emails. Who could believe it?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-18/wikileaks-releases-another-1894-podesta-emails-part-11-data-dump-total-now-17150

In the now traditional daily routine, one which forces the Clinton campaign to resort to ever more stark sexual scandals involving Trump to provide a media distraction, Wikileaks released yet another 1,894 emails in Part 11 of its ongoing Podesta Email dump, which brings the total number of released emails to 17,150.
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October 19, 2016 12:07pm
- SPC
  
  We would know from 2014 that attempts to influence elections with this sort of timed campaign are less than decisive in impact.
  
  Julian and Dotcom cannot piss their will on election outcomes to avoid their day in court.
  
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  October 19, 2016 3:22pm
Manolo

I thought he was in Mt Roskill, not New York City:
http://nypost.com/2016/10/18/nearly-naked-hillary-clinton-statue-sparks-fury-downtown/

A thin-skinned Hillary Clinton supporter went bananas after spotting a nearly nude, hoofed statue of the Democratic presidential nominee erected in lower Manhattan on Tuesday morning.
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October 19, 2016 12:22pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  How is this any different to the naked Trump statue? Oh wait. – I don’t want to see Hillary naked either.
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:39pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    You are missing the point – naked Trump statue = acceptable political satire, free speech issue etc.
    
    Naked Killary = rayciss! sexist! transphobic! Literally Hitler!(TM) Physical violence against Trump supporters is ok etc.
    
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    October 19, 2016 12:44pm
    - Fletch
      
      Exactly. They don’t mind dishing it out, but they can’t take it.
      
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      October 19, 2016 3:29pm
- Inandout
  
  The Muslim wrapped woman was going ape.
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:52pm
- Rich Prick
  
  The artist had a sense of humour giving her a G-string rather than a colostomy bag.
  
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  October 19, 2016 3:42pm
Manolo

Refugees or future jihadists trying to pass as children?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2003927/mps-demand-dental-tests-of-child-migrants-as-concerns-grow-over-ages-of-asylum-kids-arriving-in-britain-who-look-closer-to-40/

Tory MP David Davies demanded checks on their teeth, which immigration lawyers said was the “strongest proof of age”.

Amar Ali, of London law firm Reiss Edwards, said a simple X-ray procedure should be undertaken “if somebody clearly looks older than they claim”.
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October 19, 2016 12:28pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Same in Sweden etc where “child” refugees end up raping/Culturally Enriching local blond girls who have been brainwashed by Feminist/Diversity state propaganda.
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:47pm
- SPC
  
  The people vote Brexit to secure borders and the government allows them to be subverted by people who lied about their status.
  
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  October 19, 2016 3:37pm
rangitoto

Parmjeet Parmar selected by the Nats to contest Mt Roskill.

https://national.org.nz/news/2016-10-19-national-selects-mt-roskill-candidate
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October 19, 2016 12:46pm
- Inandout
  
  But, but, she is not a Roskill Muslim.
  
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  October 19, 2016 12:51pm
  - Manolo
    
    Even our resident multiculturalist will vote for her, I reckon.
    
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    October 19, 2016 2:09pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Seems a very good choice for that diverse electorate which Goofy took for granted for far too long.
  Obviously a long shot but I think she’ll give Liabore a big fright.
  
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  October 19, 2016 1:54pm
Kimbo

And game 3 of the best-of-seven National League Baseball championship between the Cubs and Dodgers at Dodgers Stadium gets underway in less than 15 minutes. Currently 1-1.

http://m.mlb.com/gameday/cubs-vs-dodgers/2016/10/18/487626#game_tab=gameday,game=487626,game_state=preview

Here’s one strategy for a Dodgers win in the series – Kershaw to pitch in all games!

http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-dugout-cubs-game-2-20161018-snap-story.html

For the uninitiated, pitching is such a physically strenuous task, most are rested after about 7 innings/90 pitches of a nine-innings game, and then need at least 3 days to recover. So this is the time of year when a team’s pitching depth is really tested. Is all very well having a Sandy Koufax or Greg Maddox on your roster, but there are 11 in total who have to perform when required. Hence the tactical juggling and substituting

Meanwhile in the American League play-off Toronto gained their first win, but still trail the Indians 3-1. They will be up against it to win 4 in a row in post season – but it has been done before (the famous curse breaking-Red Sox team of 2004)
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October 19, 2016 12:56pm
- Kimbo
  
  Sorry, just to clarify that – teams have won four games in a row in post season, but as far as I’m aware, only the Boston team of 2004 came back from the seemingly hopeless position of 0-3 down in a playoff – and even more curse-defying, they did against their bogey team of…forever , “the evil empire”, aka the New York Yankees (Bucky Dent!).
  
  And then the Sox of 2004 went on to sweep the St Louis Cardinals 4-0 in the World Series.
  
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  October 19, 2016 1:46pm
  - SPC
    
    The grave is dug, it will not be long before the cub is in the cave of his predecessors. Another winter is coming. Death for the pretender to the bear throne.
    
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    October 19, 2016 3:40pm
    - Kimbo
      
      He he he
      
      Top of the 8th, Cubs batting and they are trailing the Dodgers 0-4 so they are fast running out of chances.
      
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      October 19, 2016 3:54pm
    - tom hunter
      
      Yawn – early in the series, sweeties. I’d prefer this to being a Blue Jay’s supporter.
      
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      October 19, 2016 3:58pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Remarkably cool. I take it you have confidence in the likely Cubs starting pitchers for the next 3 games…or are you going to be able to hold it together if it goes to a seventh? 😉
        
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        October 19, 2016 4:05pm
      - tom hunter
        
        Yep. But they still need runs to defend.
        
        Always knew this series would be tough.
        
        Two more across the plate. Sigh!
        
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        October 19, 2016 4:13pm
      - tom hunter
        
        And that’s that. Pretty obvious that the Cubs need to get runs before they hit Jansen in the 8th or 9th inning – because that guy looks unhittable.
        
        But yeah, knowing baseball and its history, I’m pretty cool about this.
        
        And as I pointed out in my 2015 piece on the Cubs, nobody ever wrote about a “curse” for the Chicago White Sox, who had a drought remarkably similar to the Red Sox – 1917-2005. Same for the Cleveland Indians, who suffer the same fate as their city in the eyes of the Coastal literature elites.
        
        Such is life at the mercy of scribes like Mike Royko.
        
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        October 19, 2016 4:38pm
  - tom hunter
    
    I have to admit that I did not see the Dodgers getting runs off Arietta.
    
    But the real problem is the Cub’s batting is just dead against pitchers who are not a patch on the Cubs starters – and that batting has been dead even in the games they’ve won, relying on runs produced by unrecognised batters. That’s going to have to change soon if they’re to win.
    
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    October 19, 2016 3:58pm
    - SPC
      
      It should have been the year, after Leicester and the windy city Hurricanes, but there is worm in their wood.
      
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      October 19, 2016 4:06pm
      - tom hunter
        
        The Cubs management made it clear a couple of years ago, that they were going to build a young team that could hit the post-season multiple times over a half-decade or more, such is the crapshoot of the modern post-season.
        
        What made the Cub’s drought unique was the fact that they were owned by a useless, disinterested, dissolute group for decades after WWII. Had that not been the case they’d have a gap no worse than numerous others – such as the poor old Cleveland Indians.
        
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        October 19, 2016 4:12pm
      - SPC
        
        Well the teams weakness in going all the way is now known, so they know where they need to act.
        
        An example of what not to do is the Thunder. As they never acted (Durant and Westbrook never inter-acted – imagine if they had gone to the net drawn defenders and passed to the other for the open three point shot … they hardly ever did – two lone gun men, what a waste of champion team potential).
        
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        October 19, 2016 4:22pm
Sir Leslie Bottocks

check out laudafinem.com’s latest gem!

http://www.laudafinem.com/2016/10/19/kiwi-judge-lowell-goddard-up-shit-creek-without-a-paddle/
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October 19, 2016 1:05pm
Manolo

On the way to social ruin thanks to Mrs Merkel. The Germans can start to scream:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3848118/More-17-000-migrants-file-lawsuits-Germany-aimed-getting-families-join-courts-struggle-cope.html

More than 17,000 asylum seekers in Germany have filed lawsuits against the government aimed at getting their families to join them leaving courts struggling to cope.

And now it is feared the legal action will open the floodgates to a new wave of mass immigration into the country.
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October 19, 2016 2:18pm
- SPC
  
  The only safe way to take in refugees is to vet them at camps and to do so by family.
  
  Taking in those who network with criminals to cross borders, is not vetting, and there is no control over numbers because of unknown family associations.
  
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  October 19, 2016 3:18pm
- Gabby
  
  All they need to do is pull their fingers out of their arses and turn down the requests for asylum.
  
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  October 19, 2016 6:10pm
Manolo

The clownish John Kerry claims the Obama administration has nothing to do with it:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/19/wikileaks-ecuador-julian-assange-internet-access

Ecuador has confirmed that it cut off internet access to Julian Assange, the founder of the whistleblowing site WikiLeaks, stating it believed he was using it to interfere in the US presidential election.
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October 19, 2016 2:47pm
- SPC
  
  That does sound plausible, one can support the idea of wikileaks as a resource in support of transparent government – thus provide asylum to Assange.
  
  Yet also oppose its use for partisan purposes.
  
  And this nuance is probably part of an arrangement within Ecuador – with their looming change in President.
  
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  October 19, 2016 3:30pm
EAD

Brilliant, looks like another one’s bitten the dust at the Hebebc:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/17/autumnwatch-presenter-sidelined-for-being-too-white-and-middle-c/

“BBC Autumnwatch presenter sidelined for being too white and middle class”

The sad thing is the brainwashed idiot is still in “if I’m a good goy, they might throw me a few scraps” mode at the moment:

“Whatever I may think, it’s crucially important that high-profile shows like the Watches reflect diversity,” says Martin Hughes-Games; although he can’t explain why this is important.

He wonders how he’ll provide for his new born son and yet still wants to sacrifice himself on the altar of negro worship.

Savant on why the BBC should be known as the Hebebc:
http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/the-hebebc-anyone.html
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October 19, 2016 3:48pm
- Inandout
  
  BBC programmes have long been diverse, to the point where I wouldn’t be surprised if Queen Elizabeth First in the next series on the subject, isn’t played by a black or Asian. I recall one of the Robin Hood series where one of the ‘Merry Men’ was a female Muslim.
  
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  October 19, 2016 4:30pm
Fletch

Obama and the Left are laughing off Trump’s comments about voter fraud, yet in 2012, Obama won many districts with 99% of the vote, and some districts with 100% of the vote. Obama lost in every State with Voter I.D laws. That sounds as good a reason to have I.D laws as any.

Over in Philadelphia, he was lucky enough to get 90% percent turnout in some districts with over 99% of the vote.

In Cleveland, in some districts he did even better with an astounding 100% of the vote in dozens of locations. For example, in Cleveland’s Fifth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts E, F, and G 1,337 to Mitt Romney’s… 0. And in case you’re wondering, Gary Johnson received more votes than Mr. Romney.

Well, maybe that’s just a fluke. In the Ninth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts D-G with a paltry total of 1,740 to… 3. Hey, at least Romney got .2% of the vote!

Okay, what if we look at an entire Ward? No way this trend continues, right? An entire ward. Why not do the First Ward? Obama won that one 12,857 to… 94. This time Romney got .7% of the vote. He’s moving up in the world!

In total, there are 21 districts in Cleveland where Mr. Romney received precisely 0 votes. In 23 districts, he received precisely 1 vote. And naturally, in one of the districts where Obama won 100% of the vote, there was 100% turnout. What a coincidence!

By the way, in case you are thinking that Romney did so poorly because maybe those districts were not very populated: Nope. In those 44 districts, Mr. Obama won 14,686 to 23. That’s .16% of the vote for Romney.

Mr. Obama won in St. Lucie County, Florida, which had over 140% voter turnout.

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/

So yeh, nothing to worry about, right?
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October 19, 2016 3:51pm
- SPC
  
  Every state that has voter I.D laws is a Republican dominant state. So little wonder Obama did not carry any.
  
  However this year Clinton is likely to win some of them against Trump
  
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  October 19, 2016 4:12pm
- tom hunter
  
  I admit I get tired of the “no voter fraud” mantra the Democrats keep saying.
  
  But the key point is that the numbers – even in the cases you cite – made no difference to the overall losses at the state-level for Presidential voting.
  
  If Democrat voter fraud was actually affecting elections you’d expect to see more unusual results in the House and Senate elections, and there isn’t.
  
  And in the past – notably in 1960 in Illinois and the Southern states controlled by the likes of LBJ – there was a lot of voting fraud. It’s nowhere near as bad nowdays as when there were Precinct captains with piles of voting slips ready to go if needed – and being on the end of the phone from their local Democrat as the votes were counted.
  
  Having said that I don’t see why you should not have some sort of ID. A lot of US states don’t bother going through the sort of checks we do here in NZ.
  
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  October 19, 2016 4:23pm
  - SPC
    
    Voter photo ID would be neutral (provided places to obtain this were evenly spread), but DL disadvantage the Dems as more of their voters are inner city users of public transport (no ability or need for a DL).
    
    But we do just fine here without any photo ID/DL etc.
    
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    October 19, 2016 4:42pm
    - Fletch
      
      Obama and Eric Holder are also looking to redistrict the country so as to be more advantageous to the Democrats. There’s nothing they won’t try, really.
      
      http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/obamas-help-eric-holder-seeks-break-gop-supremacy-redistricting-country
      
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      October 19, 2016 4:47pm
      - SPC
        
        The USA does need an independent body to determine its House districts.
        
        Under the current boundaries, Dems would need 55% of the vote to win a majority in the House. An irony as this resulted from some of their own doing deals with their opponents to form boundaries that secured safe seats for each of them (the safer each Dem district was the greater the advantage to Republicans in multiple other districts). Gerrymandering to suit incumbents is the sort of cronyism that brings disrepute to the democratic process.
        
        If the Democrats offered up more secure voter photo I.D for fairer boundaries Republicans would oppose it.
        
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        October 19, 2016 5:13pm
- SPC
  
  Voter turnout over 100%, as per what?
  
  Are the voters not registered locally until they decide to turn out to vote?
  
  This could merely represent many Democrat leaning voters not having signed up till organised by the Dem campaign to do so.
  
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  October 19, 2016 4:37pm
  - SPC
    
    There are 50 M Americans eligible to vote who are not registered.
    
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-wrongly-insists-voter-fraud-is-very-very-common/ar-AAj4UWu
    
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    October 19, 2016 5:08pm
    - Ross12
      
      Here is one Prof who has looked at this who agrees Trump has a point
      
      http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/18/prof-john-banzhaf-yes-election-can-rigged/
      
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      October 19, 2016 9:12pm
SPC

Police infiltrate gang importing deadly drugs and then enter the homes of members to break up the criminal enterprise.

Thus the police demonstrate that the Tribal Huks are not the only gang that can rid a town/city of a drug.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/85461725/police-doorknock-elderly-women-who-attended-euthanasia-meeting
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October 19, 2016 4:00pm
- nasska
  
  The Godaddled must be desperate if they’re getting the police to set up stings to bully & harass 80 yr old women.
  
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  October 19, 2016 5:14pm
Fletch

Trump invites Obama’s half-brother (who is pledging to vote for Trump) to the third debate.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/trump-invites-surprise-guest-third-debate-obamas-half-brother
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October 19, 2016 4:52pm
- SPC
  
  His guests are women he would not sleep with or men not invited to his dinner parties.
  
  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061735/
  
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  October 19, 2016 5:03pm
Happychappy

So it’s fine for Paddy Gower to talk about John Key having to many whites in the Caucus and is going to have a heap of white males fighting for the Education Portfolio.I would have thought that European,Maori and Ethnic Origin would have been better than white or brown from one of our leading Media outlets The Hub
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October 19, 2016 6:26pm
- Brigitte
  
  Paddy best hope there aren’t too many white male reporters in his organisation.
  
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  October 19, 2016 7:18pm
Sir Leslie Bottocks

Fly can’t get out the window!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrrtCVfOnEk
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October 19, 2016 7:48pm
Manolo

A liar in la-la land:
http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-emails-hillary-clinton-doesnt-know-what-planet-shes-on/
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