General Debate 10 October 2016

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Paulus Gnome

Wife has meltdown and it is KiwiRails fault!

The perpetually outraged have a new standard. ‘My wife screamed . . . . . the lights came on when we were over the crossing . . . . . . the train was only 20m away . . . ‘ rah-de-rah bullshit bullshit bullshit.

Do these f’tards think that they are the only believable people on the planet and anything they say is just sooooooooo believable, right up there with goofy telling me that the rates increases will be limited to 2.5% as it was so believable when his tossing predecessor said the same thing?

For the $27,000,000.00 of my taxpayer dime pumped into KiwiRail per annum, I believe that they have got the safety around the crossings pretty well sorted, I mean, no-one wants to fall foul of the OSH Nazis do they.

Read here for the faux outrage:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11725689
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October 10, 2016 8:03am
- holysheet
  
  He said he was driving slowly over the Crown Rd, Paerata, railway crossing because of cleaning chemicals in his van that he did not want to spill.
  
  What kind of dumbass drives around with containers of opened chemicals. They didn’t include agricultural chemicals that his religion of peace are well known to have a preference for, were they?
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:12am
  - cmm
    
    The chemicals will screw up your brain…
    
    BTW With a name like Raj he’s going to be Hindu and not a “peaceful person”.
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:21am
    - holysheet
      
      Why.
      With the name SB Williams would you not expect him to be a christian and not a follower of the most “peaceful” religon on earth?
      
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      October 10, 2016 8:27am
      - cmm
        
        Raj also has just a trimmed beard, not a peaceful beard. His wife isn’t in a sack and he let her speak with the interviewer.
        
        As for SBW… I don’t understand what’s really going on there.
        
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        October 10, 2016 8:37am
- peterwn
  
  The issue here is whether the lights and barriers operated in accordance with design specifications. If track maintenance caused them to operate later than intended then I think the driver and passenger are quite entitled to be concerned. The maintenance gang should have ‘bagged’ the lights and provided temporary signs. The system is designed to be as failsafe as possible – the lights and barriers are far more likely to operate in the absence of a train than the other way round. Half barriers are used so that there is no chance of a vehicle being caught between the barriers.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:25am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Is it not the law that you need to slow and check before crossing? A train 30m away is certainly able to be seen from that distance.
    
    I would have thought this was even more imperative if you have open containers in your van that slows your crossing significantly.
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:32am
    - cmm
      
      It is not law, but it is road code (ie. good advice for people who want to transfer their genes to the next generation) just as it is also good advice to always slow down and be careful around intersections (even with traffic lights).
      
      Buses etc are required to stop at level crossings whether or not the lights are going.
      
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      October 10, 2016 8:40am
      - Fraggle
        
        These people are clearly stupid and should not be transferring any genes anywhere…
        
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        October 11, 2016 4:08am
holysheet

Paul henry pissed me off this morning when he pontificated about Trump and the election strategy Trump should follow.
Getting election advice from someone who has never won an election, even against a old momma Trannie in a most conservative electorate, just doesn’t sit right with me. But then thats what Henry is like. All mouth and no substance.
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October 10, 2016 8:05am
- cmm
  
  Its called entertainment.
  
  If he gave you TV career advice or child rearing advice on his show you’d be stupid to take that too.
  
  Ultimately though Trump does know how to deal with people. Trump has been successful with hotels, casinos, reality TV shows and other ventures. You don’t get that successful without understanding what people want and how to deliver it.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:26am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    Exactly. He’s a great student of human nature. Reading his books – very clever at reading people, guessing their intentions, testing them out to reveal true colours and show their hand.
    The art of the deal.
    
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    October 11, 2016 12:18am
- lilman
  
  Just went onto Brierbatt,(sorry about spelling), watched a interview of lady raped by bill clinton and then warned off by Hillary who knew it happened,wheres the outrage ??
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:07am
  - Fletch
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHh73fkDUIs
    
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    October 10, 2016 11:06am
- Bewell
  
  In that election, the better man won.
  
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  October 10, 2016 10:45am
oldpark

Notice the two faced bastard Angry Andy Little, has put the feelers out for Nick Leggett to come and join his little band of no hopers. A few weeks ago Little banned all association by his left wing crazies with Nick Leggett ,saying Nick Leggett was too much right wing,and instructed his crazies to avoid him like the plague. Now that the wee mammys boy Labour’s Justin Lester ,has become Mayor, and ready to sock the Wellintgton ratepayers until they bleed,now wants Leggett to once more join his band of no-hopers,what a hypocritical ratbag,Angry Andy Little is.
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October 10, 2016 8:10am
pdm

holysheet – I agree 100%with your last two sentences describing Henry.

Channels have been quickly changed in our house for the last 5 years if he appears.
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October 10, 2016 8:11am
hmmokrightitis

Well done Auckland, you’ve got goofy 😀

He got just under 50% of a 40% turnout (I think that’s right). So, IOW, 1 in 5 actually wanted him as mayor.

Im looking forward to hearing from those on the left who will tell us, as they did when JK was re-elected with an increased majority, that Goofy has no mandate to govern. None whatsoever.

Cue tumbleweed…

/sarc
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October 10, 2016 8:13am
- G152
  
  And he wants his fantasy land paid for by the government he’s spent years slagging off.
  Auckland wants something Auckland pays for it
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:22am
  - waikatogirl
    
    John Key said this morning that is the message he has been giving to Auckland and will continue to do so. “The Govt does not have an open cheque book”
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:34am
    - doggone7
      
      Can we assume it will open just far enough to ensure the right number of votes come?
      
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      October 10, 2016 12:45pm
  - Lance
    
    Just like Christchurch… no wait
    
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    October 10, 2016 10:45am
- cmm
  
  Here in Christchurch we got Dalziel. We at least have an excuse: It was Dalziel or the Screaming Skull.
  
  I think I’d even have given Mzzz Bright a go before Goff.
  
  The main reason Goff got in is because people vote for the face then recognize. If he was once deputy PM he can’t be completely crap. Right? … right? … right?
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:30am
- SGA
  
  hmmokrightitis
  
  He got just under 50% of a 40% turnout (I think that’s right). So, IOW, 1 in 5 actually wanted him as mayor.
  
  Maybe you’re right, but there’s no way of knowing what the 60% who didn’t vote wanted/preferred.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:38am
  - cmm
    
    That’s Penny’s missing million.
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:42am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    You’re applying logic SGA. The people who screamed the ‘lack of mandate’ message out didn’t apply logic.
    
    You’ll note the /sarc as well.
    
    And can I just say thank you to my phantom down ticker. You make me smile every day. Do you click extra hard when you do it? I hope so, it makes it extra special 😀
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:45am
    - SGA
      
      hmmokrightitis
      
      You’re applying logic SGA.
      
      Silly me. Sorry, forgot where I was for a second – Monday mornings and all that.
      
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      October 10, 2016 8:50am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Hmmo – my belief is that if people didn’t vote, don’t moan. They got the representation they deserve.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:39am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Well i voted and got goofy, i sure as heck did not deserve that!
    
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    October 10, 2016 9:45am
- Happychappy
  
  And if the Government gets that in their Election the Labour Party like with the share float of the power company’s yell the government has got no mandate. So how can Phil Goff be saying he has been given a mandate in Auckland
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:55am
  - holysheet
    
    its different when the left do it
    How many times must I say it
    
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    October 10, 2016 12:10pm
- Gabby
  
  So aren’t you happy to see a Gnat get in?
  
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  October 10, 2016 5:20pm
Manolo

Kamikaze-style:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3829414/Defiant-Trump-admits-Republican-leadership-turning-backs-thanks-fans-tremendous-support-lewd-hot-mic-tape.html
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October 10, 2016 8:15am
WineOh

Local CCDHB representation is announced, thankfully the nutbar anti fluoride campaigner didn’t get in.
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October 10, 2016 8:20am
Happychappy

The only way Labour can fix homelessness is to build thousands of state houses as no landlord is going to allow any of the riff raff that are homeless into their dwellings.It is not only about drugs contamination there is also filth ,damage and not paying rent that these landlord have to endure before they can have legal rights to evict them.So all we have to find out from Labour and Phil Twyford is where the money is coming from to build these houses and how you are going to stop people from trashing them
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October 10, 2016 8:26am
- cmm
  
  Well we know where the money would come from: our pockets and those of unborn generations.
  
  But the good news is that they will never have to make good on the promise. They can also offer a free new Holden in every driveway (can open a new car plant and create jobs) and a pink pony with a stable out the back.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:57am
stephieboy

All Hillary needs to do today is to focus on ” bitch “, ” pussy “and f…..” and the significance they have in Donald’s life with Melanie glaring on .

However more seriously she should focus on her vision for America ( taking a cue from Theresa May’s excellent Conservative Party speech) and ignore the dork !
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October 10, 2016 8:30am
- cmm
  
  USA will have to ask itself which is more important:
  
  1) A bloke sharing locker-room talk with someone 11 years ago and apologizes for it.
  -or-
  2) A person who’s actions got people killed and compromises national security over the last few years and does not apologize for it.
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:01am
All_on_Red

‘An investigation into official flight records of financier and convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s “Lolita Express” are once again dragging former President Bill Clinton into the national spotlight.
Flight logs obtained by Gawker in January 2015 put Mr. Clinton on the billionaire’s infamous jet more than a dozen times — sometimes with a woman whom federal prosecutors suspect of procuring underage sex victims for Mr. Epstein. Fox News reported Friday that records show Mr. Clinton declined Secret Service protection on at least five flights.
The network’s investigation reveals Mr. Clinton flew on the Boeing 727 “Lolita Express” 26 times, more than doubling the previously reported 11 trips.’
‘Mr. Epstein was arrested in 2005 and signed a plea agreement in 2007 with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, accepting a single charge of soliciting prostitution. He agreed to a 30-month sentence, registered as a “Tier 1” sex offender with the U.S. Virgin Islands and paid dozens of young girls under a federal statute providing for compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-secret-service-on-multiple-lo/

Apparently Trump knew Epstein in NY but he never flew round like Bill the Rapist did.
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October 10, 2016 8:32am
- Inandout
  
  How the hell did that escape past the Washing Lines Hillary censor editor?
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:44am
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red ,
  
  At least Bill Clinton is not facing a Rape Lawsuit by a then 13-year-old relating to Trump’s squalid associations with Jeffrey Epstein and visits to his infamous Slave Island ,
  
  “A civil suit against Donald Trump alleging he raped a 13-year-old girl was dismissed in California in May 2016 and refiled in New York in June 2016.”
  
  In late April 2016, rumors began to circulate online holding that Republican presidential Donald Trump had either been sued over, or arrested for, raping a teenaged girl. One of the earliest versions of the rumor was published on 2 May 2016 by the Winning Democrats web site, which reported that woman using the name Katie Johnson had named Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in a $100 million lawsuit, accusing them of having solicited sex acts from her at sex parties held at the Manhattan homes of Epstein and Trump back in 1994 (when Johnson was just 13 years old):..”
  
  http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
  
  I would think that Trump would be crazy to raise Bill’s flying in Epstein’s jet given his own equally unsavoury associations with the alleged Paedophile !
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:45am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Suit dismissed, rumours, no proof of ‘unsavoury associations’ vs actual flight logs – 22 trips.
    Sigh…
    Actually I think Trump is going to make a personal statement and then stick to the issues and point out how Hillary is two faced over her positions. Her backing of free trade while telling Millenials she’s against it is a killer.
    Sinking to the Clintons level is what they want. No one fights in the mud better than them.
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:51am
    - stephieboy
      
      All on Red ,
      
      There is much , much more ,
      
      “7 Things You Need To Know About Trump And Sex Slave Island”
      
      “Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Hillary Clinton when it comes to her husband’s escapades. “The kitchen sink,” in this case, is Jeffery Epstein’s “Sex Slave Island” and President Bill Clinton’s ties to it.
      
      Why wouldn’t Trump use this ammo? The answer is simple: Trump himself has ties to Epstein, the billionaire Democratic donor and convicted pedophile known for having under-age sex slaves on his private plane and what the media calls “Sex Slave Island.”
      
      1.Trump himself has said that Epstein is “a lot of fun to be with,” adding that he admired the sex offender’s affinity for beautiful women “on the younger side.”
      
      “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump once said about the convicted sex offender. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
      
      2. Trump was named in Epstein’s “little black book.”
      
      etc, etc
      
      http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo
      
      Utterly Disgusting !
      
      The creeps who try and exonerate Trumo for this squalid debauchary that would even make the Roman Emperors of old faint
      
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      October 10, 2016 8:53am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Is that it? Two comments?
        Hahahaha.
        I have to laugh at your hypocrisy calling these comments ‘utterly disgusting’when you on here have talked about leering at ‘honeypots’ and young girls ‘nubile breasts’in cafes!
        You’re the creep. Our very own Epstein.
        And if you are going to stalk every comment I make then two can play that game, eh Creepyboy
        
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        October 10, 2016 8:58am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Poor old Stephen Boyle.
        Getting really desperate trying to protect his dreamgirl, Hillary.
        Keep it up stephie – you are looking more and more stupidboy.
        
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        October 10, 2016 11:00am
- straya
  
  Epstein?
  
  I really doubt that Trump wants to go there –
  
  http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:48am
William of Ockham

Will Drumpf win the erection?
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October 10, 2016 8:33am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Will Dennis write any more poetry?
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:21am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Hopefully not!
    
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    October 10, 2016 9:49am
All_on_Red

@Cronkitesays
BREAKING NEWS
Hillary got her panties in a bunch when audio tapes emerged catching Donald Trump talking like he was Bill Clinton
Lol
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October 10, 2016 8:35am
- Lance
  
  So Trumps good because Hillary is even worse?
  
  What a shitty choice
  
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  October 10, 2016 10:47am
dime

Hope the cucks here are holding up ok after hearing trump talk some shit about chicks.
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October 10, 2016 8:37am
- All_on_Red
  
  Hahaha, fat chance. They are in full meltdown.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:39am
  - stephieboy
    
    A reminder as per above ,
    
    7 Things You Need To Know About Trump And Sex Slave Island
    
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:59am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Creepyboy hypocrite pervs at women in cafes
      
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      October 10, 2016 9:00am
      - stephieboy
        
        An admirer of Trump and Epstein’s unsavoury associations ?
        
        Sicko !
        
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        October 10, 2016 9:27am
- EAD
  
  Indeed Dime,
  
  It is more total nonsense – in the cucks minds, verbal faux paus’s are more important than actual deeds.
  
  Hillary has no platform other than more of the same so all she does is hide from the electorate and get her team to pump out this sleazy garbage. I think thy may have shot their bolt too early though as this will blow over in a week or two. The American public twice elected Bill Clinton despite knowing he was a serial adulterer.
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:17am
  - EAD
    
    On the “verbal faux paus’s are more important than actual deeds.”.
    
    I called an African man who sadisticly killed 2 Americans in cold blood a jigaboo, and the cucks on General Debate went into hyperbolic meltdown – not over the brutal killing, but my choice of words to describe the monster.
    
    Go figure
    
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    October 10, 2016 9:20am
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD , and white men have never committed these kinds of heinous crimes ? The Kansas Clutter family murders come to mind not to speak of the slaughter at high schools such as Columbine and of course Sandy Hook .
      
      Go Figure !
      
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      October 10, 2016 9:25am
All_on_Red

https://amp.twimg.com/v/feed34c8-ab1d-454f-b867-dc6323f7cd56
Highway 265: The True Story Hillary Clinton Hoped You Would Never Hear
41 years ago today in the town of Springdale, Arkansas, a horrific crime was committed against a 12-year-old girl. But it was the injustice that followed that has defined her life.
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October 10, 2016 8:38am
Inandout

Goff droned on when interviewed by PH, shit Phil speaks in monotones. Then retiring Greg O’Connor comes on and shows a gang hugging side to his character. Softness and inclusiveness must come to an aging policeman, although the cynical side to me thinks Greg is fishing for a job in the ‘social worker’ area.
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October 10, 2016 8:39am
- Paulus
  
  O’Connor wants a Labour list place – if any any are going to be available, after Andy at the top.
  
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  October 10, 2016 2:17pm
- RF
  
  Greg is not stupid. Cannot see him going to the dark side.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:41pm
All_on_Red

“If everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position”
Hillary Rodhan Clinton
Speech 24 April 2013

Obama was right, she will say anything to get elected.
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October 10, 2016 8:46am
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red , the stress is getting to you as the Trump vision starting crumble about you ?
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:01am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Creepyboy hypocrite stalker pervs at women in cafes
    No wonder you support Bill Clinton…
    
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    October 10, 2016 9:01am
    - Griff
      
      All on red .
      Here is one for you .
      Remember our little discussion about unscientific self selecting polls ?
      I told you they dont mean shite.
      You insisted trump won the debate and the self selecting polls proved it .
      Here is the actual polls since the debate.
      http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
      Note how your hero trump has tanked badly .
      
      The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher …
      In simple words All on Red
      Too thick to realize you are too thick .
      
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      October 10, 2016 9:14am
      - All_on_Red
        
        You are the thick one. I said those Polls weren’t a self selecting type. And I have never said that Trump will win the Election.
        Personally I wish both Clinton and Trump would just go and America chooses someone better.
        But, they are both symptomatic of the times- and how sad is that.
        
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        October 10, 2016 10:09am
- doggone7
  
  She will say anything to get elected? That sure as hell would be unusual for a politician wouldn’t it?
  
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  October 10, 2016 12:48pm
- Paulus
  
  It is said that the Clinton family and the Obamas’ are very incompatible – politely expressed.
  God help any Obama staff who are still in the White House when the Clinton’s get in.
  Hillary Clinton is a very very spiteful woman.
  Many of her former staff can attest – one day a book will be available – even after a law suit to stop publication paid for by the Foundation of course.
  
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  October 10, 2016 2:22pm
dime

One of the women Bill Clinton raped was interviewed. Yikes.

How creepy is it that he likes to violently bite on their top lip? What an asshole.
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October 10, 2016 8:50am
- Inandout
  
  Comes from years of Bill biting his lips while listening to Hillary telling big fat lies. That is before he falls asleep.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:56am
Fairfacts Media

Here’s thestory about Hillary laughing off the case where she defended a rapist she knew was guilty.
I don’t mean Bill, but the time when she stopped a rapist who raped a 12 year old girl from going down for a long, long time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcqh0gRy-og
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October 10, 2016 8:52am
- stephieboy
  
  Fairfacts Media ( irony there )
  
  Some facts about the Rape case Defence
  
  1 Hillary Clinton was not laughing about the victim . That is a blatant lie based heavily edited and doctored video footage .
  She was, in fact, laughing about the admissibility and reliability of Polygraphic Testing in cases of this kind and how both Prosecution and Defence can use and abuse them to their advantage .
  
  2. There was reasonable doubt about the victim’s account of the allegation in that she has had past form in making these kinds of allegations .
  
  3 The Prosection felt that she had done a good job and had only praise by the way which she conducted herself in court and presented her case .
  
  http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:13am
publicwatchdog

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
FYI Kiwibloggers – just posted this on Chloe Swarbrick’s Facebook page:
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How many people Chloe – know you support PRIVATISATION via Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs)?

Which is hardly ‘fresh’ new thinking – but a fundamental stale old Neo-liberal policy which serves the interests of the corporate 1%?
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Chlöe Swarbrick
September 24 at 8:27am

“Hey Penny, I support certain PPPs to see certain necessary infrastructure built.

It is a practicality, and does not need to be evil, especially with requisite controls in contracts.

I am against the TPPA, and my track record in journalism will show that.

I support density because cities operate best, and most efficiently, when they are denser.

Where would you like to see Auckland growth go? Forever sprawling outwards, without the support of infrastructure or job opportunity?

My whole campaign is premised on engaging the disengaged – bringing Auckland’s disenfranchised back into the conversation.

I do not think we can have a representative democracy when only 1/3 of the city votes, let alone when there is a large correlation there between voters and homeowners protecting their interests.”
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As a social media marketing business CONsultant Chloe – you must be delighted with the success of your Auckland Mayoral campaign, ably assisted by mainstream (corporate) media?

Congratulations!

In my view, your arguably very slick social media campaign, effectively marketing yourself as a fresh-faced millennial purporting to advocate for the disenfranchised and disadvantaged while supporting policies that support the corporate 1%, was truly scary to behold.

In my view, your campaign confirmed the following adage?

“The key thing in life is sincerity – once you can fake that – you’ve got it made.”

Penny Bright

‘Anti-privatisation / anti-corruption Public Watchdog / Whistle-blower’.
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October 10, 2016 9:05am
- srylands
  
  “Neo-liberal policy ”
  “corporate 1%”
  
  The second I read shit like this, I label the author an idiot. Add in “National’s rich mates” and my brain switches off.
  
  Oh if only New Zealand actually had some neo-liberal policies for you to get energised about!
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:19am
- AgentBallSack
  
  Is that how an old dog like you congratulates the vixen that just wiped the floor with you Penny?
  
  By showing graciousness and not doing dirt?
  /sarc
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:24am
- calendar girl
  
  The election’s over, Ms Bright. That comment’s poor taste.
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:56am
- RRM
  
  PENNY
  
  You put your ideas out there for election, and the public has rejected them. That means they don’t want you running the city, and they don’t want to hear all about your ideas and opinions. You tried, and you lost. Now get off the stage and go away with some dignity intact.
  
  It speaks volumes about your character that your way of coping with defeat is to just lash out at someone else, calling her all the same names you’ve been hurling like insults at other people for years.
  
  If Chlöe Swarbrick is going to take over from John Banks as the new target of your polemic and your obsessive campaigns of hate, then I pity her.
  
  But you ought to be aware that unlike John Banks, Chlöe Swarbrick’s fans appear to be the young SJW type-first-think-later crowd, and I suspect they will absolutely REAM you online if you continue to cross widely accepted boundaries of behaviour, taste and personal discipline.
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:59am
- rangitoto
  
  Congrats to Chloe for polling so well on first attempt. BTW I heard Leighton Smith recount a case of a household with six eligible voters with five not interested in voting. The sixth person registered 6 votes for Penny B. A good boost for you Penny but not enough to challenge Chloe. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
  
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  October 10, 2016 10:26am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    So the only way Penny got votes was by people breaking the law. Why does that not surpise me?
    
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    October 10, 2016 11:57am
- Rich Prick
  
  ~~Anti-privatisation / anti-corruption Public Watchdog / Whistle-blower~~ Loser.
  
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  October 10, 2016 10:41am
- holysheet
  
  Oh dear penny what happened to the rest of your signature?
  
  Penny Bright
  ‘Anti-privatisation / anti-corruption Public Watchdog / Whistle-blower’.
  
  No mention of candidate for council or any other shit.
  The loss too embarrassing was it? especially to a young new candidate like Chloe?
  
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  October 10, 2016 10:45am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Whatever happened to “I don’t do gossip and personal comments. I don’t do political dirt” Penny?
  
  Your hypocrisy with regard to your personal attack on Ms Swarbrick is weapons-grade hypocrisy on your part. That you cannot actually see that is a blight on your character.
  
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  October 10, 2016 11:08am
- Swifty
  
  Don’t you have to have a job to be a whistle blower?
  
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  October 10, 2016 12:35pm
- KevinH
  
  Chloe polled third in the mayoral race with an astounding 28545 votes which shows that her views resonated with many, certainly more than the 6969 people who wasted their votes on Penny and her constant diatribes.
  The support for Chloe was quite remarkable considering her modest means and lack of coverage by the MSM who should hang their heads in shame in not spotting how a young talented millennial can effectively utilise social media to good effect.
  
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  October 10, 2016 4:52pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See? I Spray and Walk Away.
  Rubbish stays
  I walk away
  
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  October 10, 2016 6:28pm
srylands

Piss off. [EDIT] Please.
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October 10, 2016 9:11am
Captain Mainwaring

Penny you deluded fucking moron.
Chloe got four times as many votes as you and deservedly so.
You represent a lunatic minority and your ongoing obsession with Chloe smacks of sour grapes.
Now get down to the town hall and pay your bloody rates.
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October 10, 2016 9:13am
- Kimbo
  
  Chloe reminds me of then-22 year old Tania Harris who organised the “Kiwis Care” march down Queen Street in 1981 that attracted 50,000 in response to the all-to-common strike action of that era. Just a young person fed up with the inadequate status-quo.
  
  http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/speech/21117/kiwis-care-march
  
  For years afterwards the hard-core left like Penny would hate on Harris, and suggest she was some corporate/business schill. No doubt like the die-hards who wanted to continually re-run 1951 to the day they went to their grave, the anti-Tania Harris brigade still exists. They never forget…and they never learn.
  
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  October 10, 2016 12:24pm
- sooty
  
  Pennyloopy! She’s pissed Chloe wipped her arse, good and proper. Embarassed the old hag, showed her up. The old girl is past it.
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:16pm
All_on_Red

Hello Griff, have you off at WUWT getting shown up as an ignorant idiot again.
Let’s see watt they said last time – just for fun.

‘Griff,
That’s called a straw-man argument. Look it up. The fact that you would stoop to such tactics means that you have no cogent arguments. This is why you are mostly ignored here.’

‘Anyone ever notice how Griff, just loses perspective of the article and discussion then wanders off in his hunt for assumptions and conspiracies?
If his writing was a little more obtuse, he could be Loserandownsky researching his next fabrications.’

‘I gather, that you Griff, with your usual total lack of reading comprehension did not read the comments.’

‘Absolute confirmation that griffypoo, never reads the articles or most comments.’

‘Read the article griffy, before making grossly wrong statements.’

Soooo funny.
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October 10, 2016 9:26am
- stephieboy
  
  All on Red , enjoy listening to your own giggles and voices ?
  
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  October 10, 2016 12:32pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Creepyboy stalker.
    Is it true your car is nick named the ‘Lolita Express’?
    
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    October 10, 2016 2:32pm
Scott

I think Trump should give a full apology at the town hall debate today which will be watched by millions of people and so he can reach them unedited and unfiltered by the mainstream media. Then if it’s bought up again which it will be he should continue to apologise quickly and then move on and pivot to the issues he wants to talk about.

He has a good message about enforcing the immigration laws, lower taxes, cutting back regulation, allowing the US economy to grow and making America great again. So he needs to apologise whenever this is bought up and pivot back to those issues.

It’s interesting to watch the left-wing continue to attack him. People say that Trump is vulgar but they are the vulgar attack dogs. Clinton does it herself, she thinks Trump supporters are irredeemable deplorables who are sexist and racist et cetera et cetera. Her surrogates attack Trump relentlessly, using the father of a fallen soldier to attack him, unearthing remarks made 20 years ago to a woman in a beauty pageant and now finding taped remarks made 10 years ago. Basically the left attack a person relentlessly using the Saul Alinsky model of rules for radicals. So it is not Trump that is vulgar, it is the left who did it to McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012. The left seek power at any cost and they don’t care who they hurt in getting it.

However if Trump can find it within himself to humbly apologise and pivot back to the issues and not allow Hillary to drag him back down into the mud, he still has a good chance.
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October 10, 2016 9:32am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  He has no chance. He has fouled his nest in the biggest possible way.
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:46am
- SGA
  
  Scott
  
  It’s interesting to watch the left-wing continue to attack him. People say that Trump is vulgar but they are the vulgar attack dogs.
  
  Politics is often vulgar, Scott. On the other side of the coin, Kiwiblog is littered with comments about Clinton’s husband’s misdeeds, her health, her physical appearance, and so on. Pots, kettles, etc.
  
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  October 10, 2016 10:42am
- holysheet
  
  Maybe he can follow our own sports people and put on a little tear or two, to show how sincere he is trying to be.
  He should go the Silent T way and say he’s sorry for being a man. Tearing up seems to work. Not
  
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  October 10, 2016 12:20pm
- Ed Snack
  
  I reckon the best line is to apologize…and explain that he was a Democrat when he made those remarks and that was OK because of that. Now he’s a (nominal) republican of course it’s the worst thing since Sodom and Gomorrah (or can’t you say that these days …?)
  
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  October 10, 2016 2:09pm
Scott

Captain Mainwaring – I wish I had a dollar for every commentator who since June 2015 has said that Donald Trump has “no chance”.
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October 10, 2016 9:49am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Scott – up until a week ago I thought he had a chance.
  Not now.
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:53am
- Ross12
  
  You’ll enjoy this Scott (NB. it is important you read right to the end of the article)
  
  http://ramrants.com/2016/10/yesterday-reason-can-no-longer-support-donald-trump/
  
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  October 10, 2016 10:27am
Tom Barker

“he should continue to apologise quickly and then move on”
This sounds like grasping at straws with little stubby fingers.
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October 10, 2016 9:52am
Hugh Pavletich

Finance Minister signals significant ramping up of house building on Housing NZ Corp land in Auckland; says Govt will be major provider of “medium density, medium-priced” housing in Auckland; suggests Govt may spend on housing rather than tax cuts | interest.

https://www.interest.co.nz/news/84007/finance-minister-signals-significant-ramping-house-building-housing-nz-corp-land-auckland

By Bernard Hickey

Finance Minister Bill English has signalled the Government is preparing to ramp its programme of building new houses on Housing New Zealand land in Auckland, suggesting up to 30,000 medium-density and medium-priced houses could be built in the coming decade.

Speaking on the eve of the release of a report from an Inquiry by Labour, Green and Maori Party MPs on homelessness, English told the NZ Herald the Government was on the verge of significant announcements about intervening in the private housing market in Auckland by building tens of thousands of new houses for on-sale to private buyers.

“The Government will be a provider for the next 10 years of significant numbers of medium-density, medium-priced housing into the Auckland market,” English told Audrey Young in an interview. … read more via hyperlink above …
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October 10, 2016 9:57am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  DRAMATIC LIFT IN NEW HOUSING PRODUCTION
  FOR AUCKLAND ?
  
  1. When does the Unitary Plan become operative … or the essential (for John Key)‘political lifesaver’ (fringe development) aspect of it ?
  
  2. And too … 18 May … beehive.govt.nz – Labour support on city limits welcomed . What has Nick Smith actively done politically / legislatively to progress this remarkable and global – leading political consensus … further information … 29 May … Talking housing affordability across the globe with Hugh Pavletich – Audio Player – Audio – RadioLIVE … and … http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/
  
  3. How is the $1 billion infrastructure fund being used to assist the 1. above. What progress with respect to Auckland has there been to date? 3 July … beehive.govt.nz – $1b fund to accelerate housing infrastructure
  
  4. What role is the proposed National Policy Statement on Urban Development going to have to assist 1. above. 2 June … beehive.govt.nz – New policy proposed for urban development
  Clearly people are getting increasingly dissatisfied with political performance on Auckland new housing production …
  
  Mood of the Boardroom: Bosses to Government – act on housing – Business – NZ Herald News
  
  Housing campaigner predicts spiralling house prices will be Key’s ‘Waterloo’ | Stuff.co.nz
  
  ‘I can build massive and fast’ – Mike Greer setting up Auckland factory to prefabricate homes | Stuff.co.nz
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:59am
  - RRM
    
    Someone’s building houses on a production line in the old GM plant in Upper Hutt.
    
    It seems like a good set-up… all the sub-trades know where to go, they can park on a sealed carpark right outside the door from where they’re working, or they can drive straight into the building and unload timber, tin, gib, carpet under cover out of the wind and rain. There is a massive gantry crane overhead to assist with that.
    There are no days lost to wet weather, windy weather, and nobody’s got muddy boots. The houses are built on top of little wheeled buggies and it looks like the easiest thing in the world to go underneath to run plumbing or cable.
    
    Every time a finished house goes out the front door, all of the other houses on the production line get wheeled forward one space.
    
    I think it’s a great idea! Almost everyone drives a Holden Commodore or a Toyota Corolla that was made in a factory and is exactly the same as someone else’s one. But if it’s the right car for you then you don’t care about that. Houses should be the same.
    
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    October 10, 2016 10:27am
    - dime
      
      It’s unbelievable the cost of building houses always goes up.
      
      In a proper free market it just doesn’t happen.
      
      How come everything else stays the same or goes down.
      
      Housing should be a non issue in the modern World
      
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      October 10, 2016 11:25am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    New mayors ‘must confront housing issues’ | Stuff.co.nz
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/84991610/New-mayors-must-confront-housing-issues
    
    New Zealand’s new mayors are being told to turn promises into action to tackle the housing crisis.
    
    Auckland Property Investors Association president Andrew Bruce said it was time for the new Auckland council to step up as average prices hovered around $1 million.
    
    Auckland is subject to a new Unitary Plan, which is partially in force. But a major part – the zoning changes – is on hold due to a legal appeal by lobby groups Auckland 2040 and Character Coalition. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    October 10, 2016 11:02am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      New government-built houses must be affordable … NZ Greens | Scoop News
      
      http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1610/S00115/new-government-built-houses-must-be-affordable.htm
      
      New government-built houses must be affordable
      
      Bill English should release the details of the new houses he says will be built by the Government, including how affordable they’ll actually be, the Green Party said today.
      
      Bill English has announced that the Government’s building programme in Auckland will increase under the Unitary Plan, after years of insisting the Government shouldn’t be building houses itself.
      
      “It looks like National may have finally discovered how to build houses, just in time for the election next year, but how many will actually be affordable?” said Green Party Co-leader Metiria Turei. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      October 10, 2016 11:19am
      - wiseowl
        
        Housing issue easily fixed.
        Front up and admit mass immigration (planned) is causing the problem.
        Cut immigration .
        NB. No hyperlink.
        
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        October 10, 2016 12:44pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Maori Party could ditch National over homeless issue – Fox – National – NZ Herald News
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11725892
        
        Maori Party co-leader Marama Fox has suggested that her party could drop National for Labour at the next election if the Government does not do more to prevent homelessness.
        
        Fox made the comment after the release of a cross-party inquiry into homelessness in New Zealand, which was jointly held by Labour, Greens and the Maori Party after National declined to take part. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        October 10, 2016 1:07pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Copy … earlier Pavletich post on Kiwiblog thread …
        
        LATEST POLL – KIWIBLOG
        
        http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/09/latest_poll-46.html
        
        Hugh Pavletich … (Post on thread … with additional postings) …
        
        Instead of being horrible to such a nice natured Compassionate Conservative, such as myself, it is well past time you selfish Tories gave Prime Minister Key a hurry up on housing issues !
        
        After all … it was the National Party and Mr Key that used me and the Demographia Surveys to help win the 2008 election …
        
        beehive.govt.nz – Bringing better balance to the housing market
        
        https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/bringing-better-balance-housing-market
        
        … and I heaped praise on Mr Key and the National Party soon after …
        
        NZ Government Housing Commitment Applauded | Scoop News
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0901/S00331/nz-government-housing-commitment-applauded.htm
        
        New Zealand’s Pragmatic Political Approach Welcome | Scoop News
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0903/S00467/new-zealands-pragmatic-political-approach-welcome.htm
        
        … and you are being horrible to me for Mr Keys failings on housing issues these past 8 years !
        
        Late 2008 Auckland housing was 6.4 times annual household incomes; when Nick Smith was appointed Housing Minister early 2013 6.7 times; now a stratospheric 10.4 times.
        
        Over that period the median house price has doubled from about $420,000 to $840,000.
        
        Just appalling !
        
        If it hits 12 times come the next General Election … like Napoleon Bonaparte 200 years ago being sent to exile to St Helena’s, I expect Mr Key to be sent in to exile in Maui, Hawaii ‘for the rest of his natural life’.
        
        He will have all the time in the world to read and re-read the UK Telegraph article hyperlinked below of Allister Heaths ‘The real ticking time-bomb for the Tories is home ownership.’
        
        What am I supposed to do when he pleads forgiveness ? Advice from Compassionate Conservatives (not the selfish nasty ones) at Kiwiblog would be appreciated.
        
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        October 10, 2016 1:15pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        JOHN KEY IS WORKING AS FAST AS HE KNOWS HOW TO SOLVE THE HOUSING PROBLEM … 2007 SPEECH
        
        JOHN KEY 2007 SPEECH
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0811/S00315.htm
        
        … read and weep …
        
        John Key MP
        Leader of the National Party
        
        20 August 2007
        
        Speech to Auckland branch
        New Zealand Contractors Federation
        
        Thank you for inviting me to speak to you today.
        
        You’ve asked me to talk about the New Zealand economic situation as it affects the construction industry.
        
        Let me start by saying that I think the prospects for New Zealand are better than they have been in decades. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
        … what the Property Council said following the 2008 election …
        
        New Cabinet has the skill and the nous … Property Council of New Zealand
        
        http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0811/S00315.htm
        
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        October 10, 2016 6:24pm
      - dirty harry
        
        “Maori Party could ditch National”
        
        If only..
        
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        October 10, 2016 9:33pm
- Paulus
  
  There are thousands of houses being built in and around Tauranga.
  The Council are working overtime to process building applications – builders are flat out – often all weekends too. Large sections of land – thousands of hectares are being opened up weekly.
  Around Tauranga there are many thousands of hectares suitable for house construction.
  Commercial new developments are going up as fast as builders can do them. Companies are attracted to the climate and lifestyle with pages of employment applications – skilled of course – not like some of the local riff raff who are incapable of turning up for a few days at a time unstoned.
  Yes I have seen it.
  
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  October 10, 2016 2:30pm
  - sam green
    
    As long as it’s not productive land like in Pukekohe. The Lakes is a good example. That land was pretty shit for any decent horticulture so housing was a good option there. We all need to eat. The encroachment into production blocks borders on criminal.
    
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    October 10, 2016 6:35pm
- Gabby
  
  Bloody commie.
  
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  October 10, 2016 5:36pm
  - wiseowl
    
    If your comment is aimed at sam I find it offensive.
    Productive land is precious in this country and retaining it for use is nothing to do with communism.
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:08pm
    - sam green
      
      It wasn’t aimed at me. It was there before I posted.
      
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      October 10, 2016 8:44pm
Biscuit

Some things just don’t change, eh?

1) Penny is back in here, not contrite at clearly turning off the voting public yet again but, bizarrely, STILL promoting her ‘I’m right, you’re wrong’ dictatorship-style policies. Yep, those ones that have seen her sweeping to ANOTHER overwhelming rejection by the ‘wrong’-thinking voters.

2) WhaleOil has the begging bowl out again…

3) The All Blacks remain Kings of Rugby…

4) Donald Trump demonstrates just how unsuited he is to be America’s figurehead…

5) Sun streams down in the bestest little capital city on the planet. Methinks I shall grab a coffee and a danish and go walking along the waterfront!
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October 10, 2016 10:09am
Fletch

That video of Juanita Broaddrick, recounting her rape by Bill Clinton and subsequent intimidation by Hillary. At the end of the video, Juanita is comforted by Kathleen Willey, another victim of sexual assault by Bill. She doesn’t mention it in the video, but in her written account she mentions that after he raped her the first time, he was “ready” enough for another go. He said, “mah Gahd, I can do it again”, and he did. Raped her twice in the one sitting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHh73fkDUIs

Hillary has a history of being Bill’s enabler in this and intimidating and silencing the women he has assaulted. I believe that Trump has already tweeted a link to this video. If Hillary brings up the topic of Trump’s locker-room shit talk, then she’d better be prepared to have this thrown back in her face.

It’s one thing to talk shit about women, it is totally another to force yourself on them as Bill has a history of doing, and with Hillary right there supporting him.
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October 10, 2016 11:10am
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , of course, Donald will happily discuss with Hillary Jill Harth ‘s groping and attempted rape allegations against him ,
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview
  
  BTW when will Juanita Broaddrick, be approaching her nearest DA’s office and laying charges ?
  
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  October 10, 2016 12:45pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    She won’t because Hillary Clinton is a vindictive person and Brodderick’s life wouldn’t be worth living if she made an official complaint.
    
    And of course since she’s alleging that a Clinton committed a crime it won’t do any good anyway, they aren’t subject to the normal laws. So there’s no actual case for Bill to answer for.
    
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    October 10, 2016 2:12pm
Manolo

Do as I say… Left-wingers are double-faced all over the world. Here the British version:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3829560/I-m-not-hypocrite-claims-Corbyn-ally-Shami-Chakrabarti-opposes-grammar-schools-despite-paying-son-attend-selective-school.html

Shami Chakrabarti denied she was a hypocrite today for opposing the expansion of state grammars while paying for her son to attend a selective school.

The new shadow attorney general claimed she was simply ‘trying to do her best’ for her child by enrolling him at one of Britain’s top private schools. But she insisted there was no conflict between this and the fact she was campaigning to prevent children whose parents cannot afford expensive private fees from benefiting from selection in the state sector.
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October 10, 2016 12:19pm
WineOh

@ DPF- are you doing a thread on the local Wellington elections? Is there a party to celebrate the departure of Helene Ritchie from the council? We’re not full done with her however, she’s been elected to the CCDHB.
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October 10, 2016 12:23pm
Manolo

The gullible followers of the veteran socialist Sanders are outraged:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sanders-supporters-seethe-over-clintons-leaked-remarks-wall-225213392.html

Supporters of former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders on Saturday expressed anger and vindication over leaked comments made by Hillary Clinton to banks and big business that appeared to confirm their fears about her support for global trade and tendency to cozy up to Wall Street.
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October 10, 2016 1:12pm
Captain Mainwaring

Hugh, Marama, Material, Twitford et al:
Re ‘homelessness’.
Have any of you ever asked the following questions of these so-called homeless people?
1. Have you ever been evicted for not paying rent, living like pigs or pissing off the neighbours.
2. Have you ever trashed a house or let your dogs rip it to bits?
3. Have you ever made P or smoked it in a house you don’t own?
4. Have you got yourself on a tenants’ ‘black list’.
Next question:
Do you expect the Government or anyone else to provide houses for people who have been guilty of any of the above, and if so, under what conditions?
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October 10, 2016 1:27pm
- Happychappy
  
  If i was John Key and Marama wants to make threats about going with Labour over the homeless situation maybe they should and call a early election.
  
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  October 10, 2016 3:00pm
kowtow

Ah the joys of multiculturalism and third world immigration, ouh la la…..

Prime Minister Manuel Valls said two officers “were violently attacked with incendiary bombs while they were on a surveillance mission in the Grande Borne high security zone.”
“Their colleagues who came to back them up were also targeted,” he said, describing the attack as “extremely serious and very cowardly”.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20161009/french-police-injured-in-unspeakable-molotov-cocktail-attack
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October 10, 2016 1:29pm
- stephieboy
  
  Kowtow , the last paragraph gives us some clues ,’
  
  “The next step will be to go inside Grande Borne to put an end to all the drug dealing, because that is really what the cameras interfere with,” he said.
  
  It would seem it was the actions of criminals and drug dealers .
  
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  October 10, 2016 1:34pm
BananaLlama

Stop hitting her Donald she’s already dead.
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October 10, 2016 3:00pm
Manolo

Merkel’s policies bring peace and love to Germany:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-police-capture-syrian-refugee-over-suspected-bomb-attack-a7353421.html

German police have detained a 22-year-old Syrian man suspected of preparing a bomb attack following a nationwide hunt.

Police in the eastern state of Saxony tweeted on Monday that Jaber Albakr was detained overnight in Leipzig.
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October 10, 2016 6:52pm
Morrissey

RNZ’s Brains Trust re Assange: “He’s just anti-EVERYTHING isn’t he?”
Jesse Mulligan, out of his depth, is going from bad to much worse.
The Panel pre-show, RNZ National, Monday 10 October 2016, 4:20 p.m.
Jim Mora, David Farrar, Ali Jones, Julie Moffett, Jesse Mulligan
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thepanel/audio/201819389/the-panel-pre-show-for-10-october-2016

Since he took over as the main afternoon host on RNZ National, I (and no doubt many other radio listeners) have generally regarded Jesse Mulligan as adequate: competent enough, personable, often delightfully quick with a pun. Probably the worst anyone would have said about him was that he was a pleasant but vacuous comedian and an earnest if not pretentious gourmand.

Last week, however, Jesse Mulligan filled in for Jim Mora, as he occasionally has done in the past. Sadly for him, and even more sadly for listeners, he found himself having to talk to people about matters of grave consequence—the Syrian insurrection and the Israeli raid on a peace protest ship in international waters. He was simply not up to the job. My take on Mulligan then was simply that he was indolent, therefore poorly prepared, therefore unable to intelligently interview even a mediocre academic like Paul Sinclair, [1] leave alone an ideologically driven liar like Dr David Cumin. [2]

It’s getting harder and harder to take such a benign view of Mulligan, however. Today, his intellectual laziness segued with disturbing smoothness into a nasty little attack against one of the West’s leading dissident journalists. That he did this in tandem with the sneering long-time Mora producer and dutiful chortler Julie Moffett makes it almost inevitable that he will be compared to the sneering, scoffing Jim Mora, and even to such insalubrious characters as Mike “Contra” Hosking, or Larry “Lackwit” Williams…..

JIM MORA: Julie Moffett.

JULIE MOFFETT: Another WikiLeaks LEAK reveals that Hillary Clinton apparently suggested that Wall Street INSIDERS were best qualified to regulate the banking industry, and also included her APPARENT admission of the need for money from banking executives for political fundraising. [mocking singsong tone] Hmmmm. This comes from thousands of emails HACKED from Clinton’s campaign chair John Poseda’s [sic] email account, and appear to include the excerpts from Mrs Clinton’s paid closed-door speeches to Wall Street executives after leaving her position as Secretary of STATE. [3]

JIM MORA: This is not the smoking GUN, really, IS it? There have been so many revelations, allegations, opinions about Hillary and her connections with Wall Stre–, I mean, either Julian Assange has got something saved UP for just before the election but, I mean, tha–, this has been SEIZED ON, it’s considered—

JULIE MOFFETT: Yeah.

JIM MORA: —ahhh, interesting MATERIAL by her OPPONENT.

JULIE MOFFETT: But they go around lobbying EVERYONE for money, don’t they?

JESSE MULLIGAN: It’s pretty much exPECTed, isn’t it.

JULIE MOFFETT: Yeah.

JESSE MULLIGAN: Why is Assange on TRUMP’s side? Or is ‘e just anti-CLINTON?

JULIE MOFFETT: He’s just anti-EVERYTHING isn’t he?

JESSE MULLIGAN: Yeah I s’pose SO. I would’ve thought if you had the choice between two people, SURELY—- [Julie Moffett snorts sardonically] —someone in HIS position would go with CLINTON.

JULIE MOFFETT: He doesn’t NEED to release anything on Trump.

JESSE MULLIGAN: I guess so. [snorts] That’s right! [snorts]

JULIE MOFFETT: Really. You KNOW.

JESSE MULLIGAN: It’s all being released from ‘is MOUTH!

JULIE MOFFETT: [snorts] Yeah, ha ha!

JESSE MULLIGAN: Huh, ha ha ha ha ha.

JIM MORA: We’ll talk about that after four.

JESSE MULLIGAN: Okay.

….Pause….

JULIE MOFFETT: Paper ROAD MAPS seem to be making a comeback….

….ad nauseam.

[1] https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-06102016/#comment-1240595

[2] https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-08102016/#comment-1241801

[3] The “John Poseda” she mentions here is her butchered version of John Podesta.
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October 10, 2016 7:19pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Warning:
  Too much morris dancing causes irrational behaviour and shitloads of crap being spewed onto unsuspecting blogsites.
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:33pm
  - Morrissey
    
    STILL nothing intelligent to contribute, I see, Captain. In the real world, you’d have been decommissioned by now, you poor old thing.
    
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    October 10, 2016 8:54pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Morris dancer:
      So if my contribution is neutral in an intelligence sense, yours must be about negative 9 on a 1-10 scale.
      
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      October 10, 2016 9:00pm
      - Morrissey
        
        “…neutral in an intelligence sense”?!?!?!??
        
        Captain, you’re even more out of your depth than Jesse Mulligan was last Friday afternoon. You need to stop now, my man.
        
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        October 10, 2016 9:04pm
stigie

Well, on a lighter note………

Phone rings, woman answers.
The pervert, with heavy breathing, says,
“I bet you have a tight arse with no hair?
Woman replies, “Yes I do, he’s watching golf –
Who shall I say is calling?”
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October 10, 2016 8:01pm
nasska

Have you checked on that poor old bugger adding character to the Nelson town square lately stigie? After all he’s now horseless, cartlesss & has forfeited his trailer.

Go & shout him a feed. 🙂
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October 10, 2016 8:08pm
- stigie
  
  He’s featured again in the mail Nasska, causing disruption to people businesses and just being a self inflected homeless prick.
  Be a good bloke Nasska if you feel sorry for him and take him in and give the blessed beggar the streets of Eke ?
  Oh and btw dont forget his horse and cart and all the shit that goes on it !~
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/85130534/protesters-air-laundry-in-opposition-to-lewis-stantons-city-camp
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:26pm
nasska

I followed that link stigie & it makes sad reading.

…..”Asked what a solution could involve, Stanton said he wanted his horse and cart returned, and the ability to earn an income without council restrictions.”…..

Your communist town council are stifling the man’s spirit of independence & free enterprise.

Free the Horse! 🙂
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October 10, 2016 8:35pm
- stigie
  
  The man is free to make a living how he chooses Nasska but we do have bylaws just the same as in your great city of Eketahuna..?
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:42pm
nasska

El Rancho Nasska is situated about twenty minutes & a hundred & fifty years away from the bright lights of Eke stigie.

I’m not up to date with the council by-laws on operating horsedrawn carts . 🙂
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October 10, 2016 8:47pm
- stigie
  
  Sounds like his kind of town Nasska where anything goes and the business people and the well off farming community would welcome him, horse and broken down cart complete with all his worldly shit !~
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:58pm
Andrei

I love a woman with fire in her belly
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October 10, 2016 8:47pm
- nasska
  
  So you’re a closet kink with domination fantasies Andrei?
  
  Sly bugger! 🙂
  
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  October 10, 2016 8:57pm
- Morrissey
  
  It’s not the fire in her belly, it’s the truth in her words that counts.
  
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  October 10, 2016 9:15pm
Scott Chris

How anyone watching the second presidential debate could think that a blustering, temperamental prowling buffoon could come anywhere near the power of the most important office in human history;

Well, there you have it folks, in a nutshell. The basket of irredeemable deplorables.

They would still support Donald Trump.

Shame. Shame Shame.
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October 11, 2016 12:41am
cha

Threats, now.

WHOA. Conway on MSNBC says some of the members of Congress who won't support Trump have been sexual harassers themselves: pic.twitter.com/bBcPPcGeqy— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) October 10, 2016

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuYFuRUUAAAKPoo.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuYFvCTUkAAga4M.jpg
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October 11, 2016 12:53am
Scott Chris

Insiders word; when asked, John Key would express his neutrality towards the voters’ nomination for the 44th President of the United States of America.

In private he abhors the prospect of any Trump regime but would work to mitigate any consequential economic instability and/or any social unrest with any means necessary.

I just made that up but sound kinda plausible imo.
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October 11, 2016 1:05am
- cha
  
  Yeah, and, like myself Scott, you’re not employed to flat out speculate.
  
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