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Manolo

That would not make the crook happy:
http://nypost.com/2016/09/24/gennifer-flowers-will-be-sitting-front-row-at-first-debate/
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September 26, 2016 8:01am
- Kimbo
  
  Now, now.
  
  Abraham Lincoln was enjoying Our American Cousin at Ford’s Theatre right up until he was interrupted… 😉
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:06am
- Disaster Area
  
  And it would be a truly classy move by the Trump campaign.
  How about if Hillary invited all of Trump’s ex-wives to sit in the front row?
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:11am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Paula Jones and Juanita Broadrick want to come too. Perhaps Hillary should rethink her idea of having Mark Cuban sitting in the front row interjecting and heckling Trump…
    
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    September 26, 2016 8:57am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Gennifer Flowers was his mistress. Hillary is his wife. That puts her ahead, in that particular arena at least.
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:25am
  - Kimbo
    
    Gennifer Flowers was ~~his mistress~~ part of a vast right-wing conspiracy. Hillary is his wife. That puts her ahead, in that particular arena at least.
    
    Fixed that for ya! 😉
    
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    September 26, 2016 8:40am
    - Fletch
      
      Um, Kimbo – it’s not part of any right-wing conspiracy. Bill Clinton has used and abused more women than Bill Cosby. Let’s see – Paula Jones, Juanita Brodderick, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Wiley, Dolly Kyle, Monica Lewinsky. Not to mention all his one-night hookups where he used his Arkansas troopers as lookouts/minders for these women.
      
      The Left don’t like to talk about them though. Many of these women have also been harassed by Hillary after the fact in order to shut them up.
      
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      September 26, 2016 9:59am
      - Kimbo
        
        Um, Kimbo – it’s not part of any right-wing conspiracy.
        
        Um Fletch,.. 😉 …is the international symbol for sarcasm. Even Kiwis usually get that.
        
        I was going to say “irony”, but as per a discussion a few weekends ago, irony is an unintended reversal of expectations, whereas sarcasm is deliberately saying the opposite of what you really mean.
        
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        September 26, 2016 10:17am
      - Fletch
        
        Kimbo – ahhh, irony!
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwxybr3MBOY
        
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        September 26, 2016 10:22am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Fletch
        
        Very good!
        
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        September 26, 2016 10:43am
      - stephen2d
        
        Aside whether it is right or wrong *morally*, how is having an affair with women that know you are married an abuse of them?
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:53am
- Rich Prick
  
  Heh, neither would a srobe light. Now there’s an idea.
  
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  September 26, 2016 11:25am
William of Ockham

Thought for today:

Don’t worry. Deny.
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September 26, 2016 8:06am
Manolo

Isn’t Islam the religion of peace?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-25/jordan-writer-accused-of-blaspheming-islam-shot-dead-near-court

A Jordanian writer was shot dead as he entered the country’s highest court to stand trial for allegedly offending Islam.

A suspect was arrested in the killing of Nahed Hattar outside the Palace of Justice in Amman, state-run Petra news agency reported.

Hattar was taken into custody in August after republishing a cartoon on his Facebook page that showed a bearded man in heaven in bed with two women, smoking and asking God to fetch him wine and nuts. Hattar, a Christian, later apologized and said the cartoon mocked the kind of God the militant Islamic State group believes in.
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September 26, 2016 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  A couple of weeks ago the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, a Jordanian prince, was lecturing Europe on migration. Is the UN mad or what , appointing a human rights commissioner from a country that charges citizens with insulting religion , not to mention the shocking levels of “honour’ killings.
  
  http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-crimewave-that-shames-the-world-2072201.html
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:15am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    It’s a crime to insult religion in quite a lot of Europe too. Or they have just replaced blasphemy laws with ‘hate speech’ laws.
    
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    September 26, 2016 9:09am
    - kowtow
      
      Yep , gummint control of the Plebs is widespread and the UN is happy with that too.
      
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/13/nottinghamshire-police-becomes-first-force-to-record-misogyny-as/
      
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      September 26, 2016 9:36am
Icarus

Now where is stephieboy to tell us how all this is YT’s fault ?

I think President Kiir should get a Nobel Peace prize. After all he has killed far less people than Obama and has only waged war in his own country. Unlike Obama.

“UN report: South Sudan allowed soldiers to rape civilians in civil war”
“Scale of atrocities committed by both sides laid bare in report, including allegations of torture, murder and deliberate mass displacement”

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/mar/11/south-sudans-soldiers-allowed-to-rape-civilians-civil-war-says-un-government-torture
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September 26, 2016 8:08am
Icarus

“Whoa: Next DNC email leak reveals Hillary PERJURY

The DNC hack has rocked the foundation of the Democrat establishment, and according to Julian Assange, you ain’t seen nothing yet.”

http://www.allenbwest.com/analytical-economist/whoa-next-dnc-email-leak-reveals-hillary-perjury

She might get shoulder tapped and told to stand down for – health reasons. The dems are a crooked evil bunch, but Hillary’s level of corruption and criminal offending could bring the whole party down.
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September 26, 2016 8:12am
- stephieboy
  
  kea/ Icarus ,
  
  speaking of lies ,
  
  Here is an example of Trump spreading lies about Benghazi and it ’s aftermath ,
  
  ‘DONALD TRUMP: Among the victims of our late Ambassador Chris Stevens, I mean, she, what she did with him was absolutely horrible. He was left helpless to die as Hillary Clinton soundly slept in her bed. That’s right. When the phone rang, as per the commercial, at three o’clock in the morning, Hillary Clinton was sleeping. Ambassador Stevens and his staff in Libya made hundreds and hundreds of requests for security. They were desperate. They needed help. Hillary Clinton’s State Department refused them all. She started the war that put them in Libya, denied him the security he asked for, then left him there to die. To cover her tracks, Hillary lied about the video being the cause of death, the famous video, all a lie, another Hillary lie.”
  
  All Trump lies and she did not sleep through the Benghazi ( the attacks accurred mid afternoon Washington time ) attack nor knowingly and wilfully send weapons from Libya to arm ISSI or the Al Nursa etc..
  
  http://www.forwardprogressives.com/debunking-anti-hillary-clinton-myths-lies-conspiracies/
  
  ALL THE BENGHAZI! MYTHS DEBUNKED IN ONE CONVENIENT PLACE–SUITABLE FOR BOOKMARKING
  
  http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/miscellaneous/all-the-benghazi-myths-debunked-in-one-convenient-place-suitable-for-bookmarking/
  
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  September 26, 2016 11:08am
  - Icarus
    
    mohammad/stupidboy
    
    So the Benghazi attack was caused by an internet video just like Hillary and her houseboy said ?
    
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    September 26, 2016 11:14am
Keeping Stock

As if Hilary Clinton didn’t have enough problems (health, e-mails, falling polls), this could be the kiss of death:

Kardashian continued: “I found that without a doubt, I stand with Hillary. I’m with her. I believe Hillary will best represent our country and is the most qualified for the job. This year, I’m not just voting for myself, but also for my children, and I took that into careful consideration when I made my decision.”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/84643668/kim-kardashian-explains-why-she-wont-be-voting-trump-after-all
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September 26, 2016 8:21am
- Icarus
  
  Note how she actually said nothing in that statement ? This is typical of a Hillary supporter. They have no reason to support her and just virtue signal to the world.
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:30am
  - cmm
    
    Quite right. I think this is one big hole in the Clinton polls.
    
    All the virtue signalers will be too busy tweeting to actually go down to the booth and make an X.
    
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    September 26, 2016 8:33am
- cmm
  
  Hilary is promising free botox and abortions.
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:32am
  - doggone7
    
    She could promise free brain transplants too to many who comment on her. They won’t have anything to swap with mind, so I suppose that makes it another empty promise.
    
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    September 26, 2016 9:38am
- Dave Mann
  
  I’m not specifically aiming at you Keeping Stock, because this blog is full of opinions about Clinton and Trump…. but just to say that I’m bored with all this now. One of these drongos is an immoral and possibly sick criminal and the other one is a raving nutcase with a serious personality disorder. Both of them are competing to lead a country which has slipped into irrelevance and is tragically at the end of its useful life…. so can we move on now please? ?
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:06am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Point taken Dave – I was merely pointing out how bizarre this whole campaign has become, when a plastic person like Ms Kardashian’s opinion supposedly matters.
    
    God forbid that he wins, but is it any surprise that Trump is in with an even-stevens chance of winning the White House? God help America!
    
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    September 26, 2016 10:19am
    - doggone7
      
      Not that it’s bizarre that Ms Kardashian’s opinion matters to anyone in New Zealand, eh?!!!!!!!!!!!!
      
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      September 26, 2016 11:33am
    - Dave Mann
      
      Yes I agree… and I didn’t downtick your original comment (because this election thingy is so much in the news nowadays).
      
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      September 26, 2016 12:49pm
cmm

Scummy MSM….

The shooter in Burlington. Washington state, was originally described as Hispanic.

It later turns out he was actually a Muslim from Turkey and that was only very grudgingly admitted with no mention of faith or region of origin.

No apologies to Hispanics for wrongly fingering them.

The MSM are trying hard to be part of stephieboy’s army of deception.

Now no doubt the MSM were not alone in this. The local cops & FBI are also part of this silly game.

However the media are given journalistic privileges because they are our eyes and ears. They have a social contract to be honest and to dig deeper. When the cops/FBI say the suspect is Hispanic then journalist have an obligation to probe it and ask if, maybe, that photo looks a bit more Middle Eastern than Hispanic. They certainly have the obligation to clear up any errors.
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September 26, 2016 8:24am
- Icarus
  
  In Israel they built a wall to keep Muslims out. In fact they just upgraded it.
  
  A bit cheeky though, as its built on the Muslims land many miles from Israel’s borders.
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/84642869/Israel-builds-giant-wall-under-the-ground-to-keep-Hamas-out
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:33am
Happychappy

Can anyone tell me have they started a new Union to help in the housing crisis. I ask this question as the Unions and people of Auckland are inviting people to march in their protest this weekend coming.
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September 26, 2016 8:25am
dime

Dime checks the herald and stuff a couple of times a day for headlines..

It may be a bit buried but have they bothered to report the riots in charlotte?

an evil black cop who works for a black chief shot a black guy carrying a gun.. so the white devil needs to pay. thats basically the theme of the riots.
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September 26, 2016 8:46am
- Icarus
  
  Obama has managed to bring the violence and brutality of Africa to the USA.
  
  Who would have thought we would see rioting blacks beating and killing whites with the full support of the president.
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:49am
  - dime
    
    hillary loving it too.
    
    “these killings by police have to stop”.
    
    what an evil bitch.
    
    anything to get elected
    
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    September 26, 2016 8:50am
- Fletch
  
  … also, in a town with a black mayor.
  One brainless MSNBC panelist has said the public should not trust the police. My solution for that – have the police directly withdraw from that city and see what happens. it won’t be the white people shooting and killing each other.
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/09/25/msnbc-panelist-the-public-should-not-trust-police-officers/
  
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  September 26, 2016 10:06am
- Rich Prick
  
  #BlackLivesRiot. A lot, and at the drop of a hat.
  
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  September 26, 2016 11:32am
Icarus

Obama even defended the killers at the memorial of the victims !

What a disgusting animal he is.

===========================
President Obama Defends Stance on Police, Black Lives Matter

http://time.com/4407362/president-obama-police-black-lives-matter-town-hall/

Obama defends Black Lives Matter protests at police memorial in Dallas

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-defends-black-lives-matter-protests-police-m/
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September 26, 2016 8:53am
- stephieboy
  
  kea/ Icarus ,what a disgusting poster you are spreading porkies !
  
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  September 26, 2016 11:00am
EAD

Parenting magazine Baby & Family has told readers to beware of families who are “inconspicuous” and “cheerful”, as these warning signs indicate they are right wing and thus “dangerous”.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/25/blond-cheerful-families-dangerous-right/

Heike Radvan of the controversial Amadeu Antonio Foundation warns that “children of right-wing parents are not necessarily different from other children”, but says they are often “very obedient” and might not talk much.

Despite asserting that such children are not outspoken, the “experts” wheeled out by the magazine warn that a sinister aspect of right-wing parenting is that they instil self-confidence in their progeny……..

The body was founded, and is run by, ex-Stasi agent Anetta Kahane who has declared it vital for the European Union to change its immigration policy in order to turn the continent non-white.

She said: “This is very important; you have to change the educational system and the self-understanding of the states. They are not only white anymore or only Swedish or only Portuguese or only German. They are multicultural places in the world.”

The agenda is becoming just more and more blatant as these cultural Marxists seek to turn Europeans, particularly white men, into timid cowards quite frankly lacking in any sense of self-confidence.

That’s why they label white people being confident and cheerful as a bad thing, they want whites to be emotional wrecks full of self-doubt, because that way they don’t pose a threat to the NWO and are easy pickings for the third world hordes who seek to take over.
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September 26, 2016 8:53am
- EAD
  
  And if you think that name is familiar, ….,.yes it’s (((Anetta Kahane))) the same one who launched a campaign with (((Facebook))) to persecute anyone complaining about the refugee invasion – things became much clearer. The whole business reminds me of the way people in the (((communist))) eastern bloc were conditioned to denounce one’s neighbours to the secret police.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane
  
  Here is the lovely Kahane back in 2010, explaining why it’s good to destroy the European race:
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYKtwnzG7M&feature=player_embedded
  
  Every. Damn. Time
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:58am
  - mikenmild
    
    Clearly these (((Jews))) are a problem, EAD. How should we solve it?
    
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    September 26, 2016 9:07am
    - Icarus
      
      Maybe we can put them on trial and hang them like we did the Germans milky ?
      
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      September 26, 2016 9:12am
      - stephieboy
        
        Icarus , yet another hollyhoax denier ?
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:04am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Exterminating the Jewish people didn’t work last time mikenmild, but of course EAD will insist the Holocaust never happened anyway.
      
      I guess he’ll be back in his bunker today, counting his gold as he readies himself for the global crash that he predicted to happen in September – of last year…
      
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      September 26, 2016 9:14am
      - EAD
        
        @ KS,
        
        Do you not think trends and observations are worthy of deeper examination without shutting down the debate with hyperbole?
        
        As a commentator on the article said:
        
        As for it being “some Jews”, the majority of Jews are highly liberal in the West and fiercely nationalistic in Israel.
        
        Virtually single Jewish politician in Europe and the United States supports “open borders” and mass immigration.
        
        Virtually every Jewish journalist in print and television media supports it too and implores us to welcome the Stranger while overlooking the vast amount of migrant crime.
        
        Every major Jewish organisation pushes for mass immigration for the West, all while Israel takes none. Try naming one Jewish organisation fighting to keep Britain British.
        
        It is no coincidence very wealthy democratic countries in East Asia such as South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Hong Kong, are almost entirely ethnically homogeneous, due to their lack of Jewish influence and multicultural policies.
        
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        September 26, 2016 9:26am
      - Kimbo
        
        Hey, just to clarify, is the use of
        
        ((Joe Bloggs))
        
        …a way of designating the person concerned is a part of the international Jewish conspiracy as per the Protocols of Zion? You know like the following exchange from All in the Family:
        
        Archie Bunker: You see, what dem Joos do is dhey change dheir last names so dhey can seem like Gentiles and attract all dheir business, no questions asked. But dhey keep dheir first names Jooish so dhe other Joos, dhey knows and dhey still works together for a better deal. So ‘Jacob Stein’ becomes ‘Jacob Smith’, and ‘Isaac Goldberg’ becomes ‘Isaac Gardner’.
        
        Edith Bunker: I didn’t know Abraham Lincoln was Jewish…
        
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        September 26, 2016 10:40am
      - tom hunter
        
        Still one of my favourite moments from a show I’m too young to have seen at the time: Identity Politics is nothing new…
        
        Archie: What’s the matter with this? I call this representative government. You’ve got Salvatori, Feldman, O’Reilly, Nelson–that’s an Italian, a Jew, an Irishman and a regular American there. That’s what I call a balanced ticket.
        
        Meathead: Why do you always have to label people by nationality?
        
        Archie: ‘Cause, how else are you going to get the right man for the right job? For instance, take Feldman there. He’s up for treasurer. Well, that’s perfect. All them people know how to handle money. Know what I mean?
        
        Meathead: No, I don’t.
        
        Archie: Well, then you got Salvatori running for D.A. He can keep an eye on Feldman. You know, I want to tell you something about the Italians. When you do get an honest one, you really got something there.
        
        Meathead: Aw, c’mon, Arch.
        
        Archie: Well, then here you got O’Reilly, the mick. He can see that the graft is equally spread around, you know. You got Nelson, the American guy. He’s good for TV appearances, to make the rest of them look respectable.
        
        What’s really funny is watching the 60’s idea of a “Liberal” complaining about stereotyping people on the basis of “nationality”.
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:11am
      - mikenmild
        
        Try naming one Jewish organisation fighting to keep Britain British.
        
        I’ll give it a go. How about British Jews for Xenophobia?
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:15am
      - Kimbo
        
        Try naming one Jewish organisation fighting to keep Britain British.
        
        Um, Tottenham Hotspur FC, aka “the Yid Army”?
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:50am
- Dave Mann
  
  I don’t think I’m right wing enough. My children are very *disobedient * and they continually rabbit on; particularly about my right wing views – which is a bit confusing in the light of the excellent information in this article.
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:13am
BeaB

Dave Mann
Well said. We spend far too much time on US politics. TV1 news has led for two nights with the latest police shooting in America. Why is this of any relevance to us at all? At the most it should be a small item. Is it that our media can get stuff fed to them cheaply from the US so they don’t have to do any work.
Funniest of all though are the armchair experts who spout the usual know-all Kiwi commentary.
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September 26, 2016 9:16am
- tom hunter
  
  It’s relevant because many things that start in the USA come to NZ sooner or later, as has been the case for fifty years now, at least since the Vietnam War. So it pays to be aware. Next up for NZ is our local version of Black Lives Matter.
  
  Be grateful that we’re such a boring, quiet little country tucked away out of nowhere.
  
  And seriously – your’re still watching TV1 news? About America?
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:23am
- Andrei
  
  Is it that our media can get stuff fed to them cheaply from the US so they don’t have to do any work.
  
  Last week John Key chaired the UN Security Councils meeting on Syria
  
  Diddly coverage and yet what was said at that meeting was almost like a count down to WW3.
  
  We listen to inane political babble as the USA declines and in its death throes is about to set the world on fire
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:28am
  - Kimbo
    
    Morning Andrei. Thanks for the regular Pravda/Radio Moscow news update. 😉
    
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    September 26, 2016 9:35am
  - tom hunter
    
    Serious question Andrei: what’s the Eastern Orthodox church position on the whole End Times aspect of Christianity – Revelations and all that?
    
    Is it anything like some of the other Christian faiths that really get into it – to the point of making predictions and prophecies based on what they see in the world around them combined with the words of Scripture?
    
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    September 26, 2016 9:40am
    - Andrei
      
      The Book of Revelations is the one book of the Holy bible that is never read in Church Tom Hunter.
      
      Orthodox Christianity does not speculate on how the Apocalypse will unfold but it will unfold…
      
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      September 26, 2016 9:44am
      - tom hunter
        
        Interesting. Thanks. I don’t think I’ve ever heard Revelations read in any of the church services I’ve attended over the years but since they were mainly weddings and funerals that’s probably not surprising.
        
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        September 26, 2016 9:48am
      - Kimbo
        
        Fascinating.
        
        John Calvin, who essentially invented modern biblical exegesis, despite his prolific study always steered clear of writing a commentary on The Revelation for precisely that reason.
        
        Also, sorry to be a trainspotter, but is is not “Revelations“, but “The Revelation (of Jesus Christ)”. Despite the seemingly-bizzare Guernica-like art gallery of words common to the apocalyptic genre and made popular by the likes of Iron Maiden, the over-whelming stress is on the revealing of Christ at the end of the age – and his abiding presence in this one too for that matter. The word-pictures are just visual aides to that end.
        
        I’m recruiting for adherents to the amillennial cause if anyone’s interested, btw 😉
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amillennialism
        
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        September 26, 2016 10:05am
    - Andrei
      
      Serious question Tom Hunter
      
      What do you know of that meeting chaired by our Prime Minister, John Key, last week?
      
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      September 26, 2016 9:47am
      - tom hunter
        
        I largely ignore anything to do with the UN, since I regard what is said, declared and actually happens there to be almost always irrelevant to the real world.
        
        If I had to guess, there was some condemnation of Russian, Syria, IS and “all parties”, together with some plee for peace and aid convoys, a little bit about negotiating a new cease fire – all wrapped up in one of the famous Joint Declarations, followed by a group hug at the end?
        
        Is that pretty much it?
        
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        September 26, 2016 9:52am
  - BeaB
    
    I was amazed John Key didn’t lead all the NZ news programmes. How often does NZ get such world attention?
    But no, some bloke shot by police in a small state in the US seems to matter more. Black Lives Matter may make a local appearance but we could wait until that happens without the endless concentration on US shootings, Trump and Clinton and all the rest of the US news that really has little relevance to us.
    Even who the US president will be really doesn’t make that much difference to us and only political addicts need all the minutiae of the elections and can get that on channels like CNN.
    
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    September 26, 2016 10:27am
    - tom hunter
      
      … and only political addicts need all the minutiae of the elections and can get that on channels like CNN.
      
      Ummmm – you do realise that Kiwiblog was set up and is run by a political junkie, for political junkies. As such, a lot of the politics in the world, especially right now, is focused on the US Presidential Election and politics.
      
      There’s tons of alternatives: perhaps the Trade Me forums would suit you better? Or the entire section of Hollywood Gossip that’s devoted to Brangelina
      
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      September 26, 2016 10:32am
dime

there seems to be a standard applied nowadays that is a bit fucked.

it seems that no matter what you say, no matter if youre making a great point, if youre 100% right, that wont mean a dam thing if someone can attribute a quote to you that is wrong or weird or “racist” or whatever.

i wonder how long this is going to go on?

maybe as long as the gotcha way of thinking goes on?
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September 26, 2016 9:21am
- Griff
  
  it seems that no matter what you say, no matter if youre making a great point, if youre 100% right
  
  Such certainty.
  Ever thought you are not 100% right .
  Dunning Kruger.
  The more you know the more you know you dont know
  The less you know the more likely you are to think you are 100% right .
  Thinking you are 100% right is usually a symptom of ignorance.
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:27am
  - dime
    
    *urgh*
    
    ill rephrase to simply – if youre making a great point, a lot of people wont even begin to consider that point because they are too busy recanting that time you said “blah blah”
    
    it doesnt make for great debate.
    
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    September 26, 2016 10:00am
    - Icarus
      
      Yes dime and Griff is the worlds worst.
      
      He snarls and hates at everyone who suggests that climate change may be less than catastrophic.
      
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      September 26, 2016 10:23am
  - calendar girl
    
    “Thinking you are 100% right is usually a symptom of ignorance.”
    
    Thanks for that insight, Griff. Does it apply generally (e.g. to subjects like the case made for AGW), or only to subjects that are seen less favourably in the eye of the beholder?
    
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    September 26, 2016 10:16am
    - tom hunter
      
      A little unfair, Gregorian Girl – Griff only thinks he’s 97% right.
      
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      September 26, 2016 10:25am
    - Griff
      
      The settled science along with fooling your self with Griff says not the worlds scientists say .
      Co2 is a green house gas.
      As near as fact we ever get.
      It relies on what we call laws of physics which are things that are so certain that we can not dispute them.
      We have increased this gasses composition in the atmosphere by about 40% we can not be totally certain about this number But 40% plus or minus a few percent is extremely probable.This will result in warming somewhere between 2C and 4.5c with high certainly.
      Every major scientific body on the planet agree that this increase will result in effects that are highly likely to be detrimental to our civilization. This is the opinion of the worlds scientists not Griff.
      The uncertainty around this is not whether it will be bad if we dont stop increasing green house gasses but how bad it will be.
      At the small end we see effects on future GDP that will cost more than the cost of reducing emissions.
      There is also chance of AGW resulting in the collapse of the worlds ecology similar to the petm* .
      Even if this chance is 5% the risk of our extinction is to great to even consider continuing on the path we are presently on.
      *http://www.palaeontologyonline.com/articles/2011/the-paleocene-eocene-thermal-maximum/
      
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      September 26, 2016 10:58am
      - tom hunter
        
        It.
        Was.
        A.
        Joke.
        
        Jesus, you keep on like this, Griff, and you’ll be consigned to Reid/EAD/Nosofast/Andrei obsessive-compulsive territory – if you’ve not been already by many commentators here. 😉
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:18am
      - SPC
        
        griff, ignoring the fact that the blog takes a dismissive line to the science and has outright apologists for denial, one should keep things in perspective.
        
        Note those who see social liberalism as a threat to family and western civilisation, and those who see immigration as a threat to the survival of the white race and their national homelands – and don’t overstate the threat climate/environment change poses. Then they will just say you have a religion with its own end time threat if the world does not believe as you do.
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:34am
      - Icarus
        
        There is no such thing as “settled science” !
        
        The scientific method requires constant enquiry and evaluation.
        
        This is what happens when low information people try and dabble in things they don’t understand, hoping to impress others with their knowledge of “science” You are a joke Griff.
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:41am
      - Griff
        
        ROFL
        Do you think when I pointed out 100% right was wrong I would not get some loon saying I think I am 100% right about climate change tom?
        Come on mate.
        That we always see those who have issues with reality partition the pronouncements of the worlds scientists from what I am saying shows the metal processes needed to be in such a lala land .
        
        Proof is for maths and whisky science deals only in probability.
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:43am
      - Icarus
        
        Can someone have a crack at translating this incoherent word salad ? 🙂 ^^^
        
        Griff just look at yourself kid. You are losing it more and more each day. Its alarming and a bit sad.
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:47am
      - calendar girl
        
        Oh, dear. At 10:58am Griff is now speaking of himself in the third person.
        
        It was never my intention above to provoke such a worrying outcome.
        
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        September 26, 2016 2:59pm
- Kimbo
  
  “100% right” is an oppressive classist, racist, patriarchal, heterosexual/cis-gendered concept. 😉
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:39am
  - rangitoto
    
    You left out micro-aggressive.
    
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    September 26, 2016 10:25am
    - Kimbo
      
      Indeed. And sorry in case I triggered you
      
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      September 26, 2016 10:44am
wiseowl

Finlayson ‘must’ resign.

Now.
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September 26, 2016 9:25am
Inandout

The Syrian situation is a godsend to Islamist expansion. Never has the supply of Muslim ‘refugees’ been in such full supply; such rich pickings for those who organise lone wolves.
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September 26, 2016 9:25am
- kowtow
  
  Spreading the diversity dividend where ever it goes . Unlike the Charlotte disturbances ,the Sunderland ones seem to have gone rather unremarked …..move along please, nothing to see here.
  
  “The incident sparked violent protests a week later in the city and the windows of the terrace house the woman claimed she was attacked in were smashed.”
  
  http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/714182/Police-arrest-gang-six-migrants-woman-abducted-raped
  
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  September 26, 2016 10:23am
rightoverlabour

Manalo = this would make her even less happy…

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/25/exclusive-kathleen-willey-clinton-sex-victims-fill-entire-audience-presidential-debate/
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September 26, 2016 9:26am
- Inandout
  
  Can’t help seeing the funny side – Kathleen Willey.
  
  Wonder if the old goat is still rooting?
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:54am
Scott

I must say I find the US election fascinating particularly this year because the American electorate has such a clear choice. But what happens in the US definitely affects all of us. For example if the US economy is strong then that will help the world economy. If the US finally pulls its finger out and deals with Isis that will be a good thing for all of us. If the flow of Syrian refugees is stopped that would also be great.

Unfortunately right now the US is not leading and we have many problems around the world with a lack of economic growth and a huge amount of Muslim terrorism. I think whoever becomes president of the US in this election will make a big difference. One candidate will basically leave things the same and one candidate will be working to change things.
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September 26, 2016 9:55am
- stephieboy
  
  Scott, working to change things ?
  
  How exactly ? Trade Wars with 45% tariffs ? What else ?
  
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  September 26, 2016 11:06am
- Kimbo
  
  Hey, Scott, I know you said last Friday that our Genesis exchange was over (Very sad – there is currently a void in my heart that only you can fill 😉 ) , but just a simple question, if you don’t mind:
  
  If, as you say, the “windows/sluice gates of heaven” in the Genesis flood narrative are figurative,
  
  …how come the six days of creation can’t be either?
  
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  September 26, 2016 12:47pm
  - SPC
    
    The use of the term figurative, when discussing number (of days) is a little leading …
    
    Despite being aware that religion is like an unwelcome dinner guest on political blogs, I’ll bite (I once used a “…dog….” handle when commenting on blogs).
    
    Creating human life on the 6th day, connects to thou shalt not murder being the 6th commandment.
    
    And then the idea of fidelity of bride to bridegroom – thou shalt not commit adultery, supposedly connects to the language of king and people, Messiah bridegroom and church, God and salvation.
    
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    September 26, 2016 1:03pm
    - Kimbo
      
      @ SPC
      
      Yeah, nah. Not biting back today.
      
      One interesting interpretation of the Scriptures is enough to deal with at any one time, even for a glutton for punishment like me 😉
      
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      September 26, 2016 1:36pm
Andrei

If I had to guess, there was some condemnation of Russian, Syria, IS and “all parties”, together with some plee for peace and aid convoys, a little bit about negotiating a new cease fire – all wrapped up in one of the famous Joint Declarations, followed by a group hug at the end?

Is that pretty much it?

No – it isn’t

Here is part of it if you have the attention span to absorb it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Q3a4EnafI
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September 26, 2016 10:01am
- tom hunter
  
  No I certainly do not have the attention span to watch 41 minutes of diplomats sniping at eachother in the UN – although I prefer to think of it as me having good time management and prioritisation skills. A couple of days ago I saw a clash between Lurch The Giant Idiot and Lavrov: 30 seconds of that was quite enough.
  
  I presume you think this was important – more so than whatever’s happening behind the scenes – so since you think my guess was wrong perhaps you could kindly (and concisely) summarise it in a few bullet points?
  
  I’ll hazard another guess though about your summation: Russia good: America bad.
  
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  September 26, 2016 10:21am
  - Andrei
    
    You know what I think Tom Hunter – we are witnessing the end of the West and Western hegemony
    
    The only question is whether the West will go out with a whimper or a bang?
    
    A seminal moment in the history of this is the wanton destruction of Libya – something Russia had nothing to do with and has as much or more to do with the so called refugee crisis as Syria does
    
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    September 26, 2016 10:37am
    - tom hunter
      
      Oh you’ve made that quite clear over the last few years since your Road-To-Dasmascus conversion. No surprise to hear it again (and again… and again…), with the path to destruction led by Gay Marriage more than anything else it seems. After all, we’ve had liberal abortion laws for decades, The Homosexual Law Reform in NZ was back in the mid-1980’s and all that never seemed to set you off.
      
      Anyway, I’m betting on the whimper exit, with the violence focused internally to the West rather than externally.
      
      Interesting to note your almost subliminal belief that Mother Russia is not “the West”, yet will somehow establish a new “West” – assuming that the Elightenment and all the rest still carry some (any?) philosophical weight in Russia.
      
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      September 26, 2016 11:00am
    - SPC
      
      Sure Andre, the world is not still trying to migrate to UK/EU/USA/Canada/Oz and or buy property there as a safe haven investment.
      
      What exactly was the heyday of western hegemony – colonialism (most people in the UK did not vote and were much poorer than they are now), during the Cold War when policy was to support autocrats in place of the people – or that period after the Soviet empire fell and Russian nationalists were humiliated by loss of territories once part of the Tsarist empire.
      
      So such as yourself cheer the failure of PNAC policy, (displacement of Baathist strongman type government in Iraq, Syria, Libya to bring them into the global market order), as a sign of western weakness.
      
      Meanwhile you ignore the run down of Russian reserves and given the Kremlin dependence on these reserves for government spending it is close to a budget crisis, presumably RT etc is doing a good job of keeping you distracted.
      
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      September 26, 2016 11:01am
      - Icarus
        
        What Western hegemony ?
        
        Europeans make up a tiny minority of the world. They have low birth rates and their native lands are being over run by immigrants.
        
        If they were a bird they would be classed as critically endangered.
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:11am
      - Andrei
        
        Currently the US Government owes Russia $108 Billion dollars – that’s not chump change but it is small in the scheme of total American Government indebtedness
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:23am
      - Icarus
        
        Maybe they can pay it back with the gold they stole from the Germans ?
        
        http://www.mining.com/us-still-holds-54-billion-of-germanys-gold/
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:29am
      - SPC
        
        Andrei, given you understand somewhat the reality of the western hegemony – why would you think the Russians holding some American bonds would be a pertinent response?
        
        Russia lacks the same capacity to be indebted and retain cheap debt cost and or prevent the currency going into free fall.
        
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        September 26, 2016 12:08pm
Andrei

Nobody had mentioned “gay marriage” until you did Tom Hunter!

Russia is not nirvana, it has major problems and the people are much poorer than the West – you will not see the latest Iphone outside the big cities and the roads are terrible

But Russia is a great civilization in its own right and has given a lot to Western civilization

And old Hieromonk once told me that one day Russia would be called upon to re Christianize the West – which seemed absurd given that this was the time of Leonid Brezhnev

But now it seems quite likely he was right
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September 26, 2016 11:20am
- SPC
  
  Wonderous to be of a destiny, so Russian nationalists now see it as the eastern Christian empire to supplant the declining west rather than a communist state to supplant capitalism.
  
  I hope it spares us that old “end time” religion by promoting nuclear disarmament.
  
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  September 26, 2016 11:26am
  - Icarus
    
    No chance of that with your favourite African warlord spending a TRILLION dollars on more nukes so he can be “da man an shit”.
    
    https://theintercept.com/2016/02/23/obamas-new-rationale-for-1-trillion-nuclear-program-augurs-a-new-arms-race-with-russia/
    
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    September 26, 2016 11:36am
- tom hunter
  
  {shrugs shoulders}
  It’s been a standard belief with every Russian I’ve ever met in the last ten years that their country would be the saviour of the West. Not something restricted to Hieromonks, but not something I heard much of in the 1990’s.
  
  I wonder what Russians will think after another decade of low oil prices?
  
  As for what I think will happen to the West? It will change to something else as Western ideas continue to spread to places like China, India and the rest of Asia, to be combined with local, long-standing beliefs to produce something new for human civilisation. And that’s already happened to greater and lessor degrees in those places, but without being exported back again. The physical attributes may change, but I don’t think the driving forces of the Enlightenment or even the Reformation will be destroyed: they’ve worked too well. I even hope for Islamic scholars to turn to the latter for inspiration, though I shudder to think what will happen to any poor bastard who glues a paper of 95 theses to the Kaaba.
  
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  September 26, 2016 11:32am
stephieboy

Icarus , a reminder ,

He is not loony right .
Kea /KrissX/ Icarus is just a common everyday troll.
His babbling is designed to get attention from the resulting reaction.
Poor poor loony little thing.
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September 26, 2016 11:21am
- Icarus
  
  stephieboy/Griff/mikenmild
  
  Sorry you forgot to include a point and did not refute any point I have made.
  
  You better fix that otherwise someone might call you a “troll”. You also make wildly unpopular comments you can not support with a reasoned argument. Fail to answer questions. That makes you a troll.
  
  Which is why name calling and ad hominem attacks are all you have.
  
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  September 26, 2016 11:26am
  - stephieboy
    
    Let me repeat,
    
    He is not loony right .
    Kea /KrissX/ Icarus is just a common everyday troll.
    His babbling is designed to get attention from the resulting reaction.
    Poor poor loony little thing.
    
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    September 26, 2016 11:58am
    - pentwig
      
      daffy
      What the f… are you?
      Certainly not the the troll from heaven, but certainly the biggest from hell.
      Return to the strandred and tell your confused gender pal lynn and mickey you have failed miserably. Being lefties they will not forgive though.
      
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      September 26, 2016 9:40pm
Paulus Gnome

Has labour been over and counted the ‘homeless’ in their cars caught out overnight in the flood stricken Coromandel perchance?
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September 26, 2016 11:56am
- Gabby
  
  Don’t the Sallys do that for Puller? I’m sure Ponyboy said the Sallys do that. He may have been pulling the other one.
  
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  September 26, 2016 7:02pm
Manolo

By May, Mrs May:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3806231/British-business-stop-mainlining-immigrants-like-drug-Boris-Johnson-claims-warns-PM-trigger-Brexit-May.html

Boris Johnson today warned British business it must stop ‘mainlining’ immigration as the UK quits the EU.

The Foreign Secretary said he was in favour of skilled foreign workers coming to the UK but said the Brexit vote was about ‘control’ over numbers to ensure British youngsters had a fair chance of work.

Amid a growing row over when the Government should officially start the Brexit negotiations, Mr Johnson also said the process should be underway by May.
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September 26, 2016 12:08pm
- SPC
  
  No earlier than May, more likely by Juno so little will get done but a preliminary meeting and then home for a long French summer.
  
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  September 26, 2016 12:13pm
wiseowl

Key on 12 pm news saying Assad has to go.
He has that wrong.Assad is the elected leader and is trying to deal with rebels and ISIS and Key says he has to go.
He must have been playing golf with Obarmer.
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September 26, 2016 12:12pm
- mikenmild
  
  And what an elected leader he is, too. 88% of the vote in the last presidential election. You can’t get much more elected that that, right?
  
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  September 26, 2016 12:21pm
Manolo

The reality is that nobody pays attention to JK on geopolitical matters.
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September 26, 2016 12:14pm
Manolo

The crook’s minions want a free ride:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/25/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-debate-gennifer-flowers

The two camps traded threats over who would be in the debate audience. After Clinton’s team confirmed that it had offered a front row seat to billionaire Trump critic Mark Cuban, Trump responded that he might invite Gennifer Flowers, a former model who had an extramarital encounter with Bill Clinton in the 1980s.

On Sunday, Clinton campaign chair John Podesta described Trump’s reaction as “to dive in the sewer and go for a swim”, although the Republican candidate’s running mate, Mike Pence, denied that Flowers would be present.
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September 26, 2016 12:16pm
Hugh Pavletich

RISKS OF PROPERTY BUBBLE GROWING IN CHINA … SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST

Risks of property bubble growing in China with policy options running out | South China Morning Post

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/economy/article/2022422/risks-property-bubble-growing-china-policy-options-running-out

Beware the Chinese housing bubble … Pauline Loong

https://www.tradingfloor.com/posts/beware-the-chinese-housing-bubble-8068890

Foreign Buying Plummets In Vancouver: Sales To Foreigners Crash 96% … Zerohedge

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-24/foreign-buying-plummets-vancouver-sales-foreigners-crash-less-1
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September 26, 2016 12:23pm
- tom hunter
  
  DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER.
  
  You’ll have to picture the glowing lights and waving, claw-like arms.
  
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  September 26, 2016 12:29pm
Manolo

French madness: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37454697

Under pressure to tackle home-grown jihadism, the French government is opening a string of rehabilitation centres to combat extremism – and the first one is already proving controversial.

These villagers are outraged that a small chateau on their doorstep is about to become France’s first Centre for Prevention, Integration and Citizenship — or what some call a de-radicalisation boot camp.

“The government is conducting a crazy experiment over there,” says Michel Carrier, pointing to a collection of 18th-Century buildings a few hundred yards away across a small road. “We may be outside the cage, on this side of the fence,” he declares, “but we feel like the guinea pigs.”
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September 26, 2016 12:24pm
Icarus

Study: climate alarmists represent 30% of OCD psychiatric patients

A large fraction of the most notorious climate alarmists are “only in it for the gold”, if I use the self-description of one of them, Dr Michael Tobis.

However, there certainly exist people who have genuinely been brainwashed and who believe that a dangerous climate change is right behind the corner.

Almost all of us know that these people are psychiatrically ill but many of us have been ignorant about the technical term for the disease that manifests itself as climate alarmism. A new published research at the University of Sydney fills this hole and sheds some light on my question:

http://motls.blogspot.co.nz/2012/03/study-climate-alarmists-represent-30-of.html

Peer Reviewed Science news.
Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry

The impact of climate change on obsessive compulsive checking concerns

http://anp.sagepub.com/content/early/2011/12/19/0004867411433951.abstract
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September 26, 2016 12:31pm
- Manolo
  
  I do not believe this figure for a second.
  
  Griff seems to me a perfectly balanced individual, open-minded, sane, witty and well-read. 🙂
  
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  September 26, 2016 12:36pm
  - Icarus
    
    This is Griff alright. The sad thing is he does not actually understand what he is saying. He thinks because a “scientist” said something it must be true. He then just cut and pastes from a few sources frequented by other OCD sufferers.
    
    Griff is very ill and wish he would seek treatment and stop self medicating.
    
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    September 26, 2016 12:55pm
- William of Ockham
  
  Witless bullshitting imbecility.
  
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  September 26, 2016 12:55pm
  - Icarus
    
    Alarmism as a mental disorder
    
    It can be convincingly argued that mental illness is indeed a chronic problem among many climate alarmists and their followers. Many are paranoid that a trace gas is causing a climate catastrophe. They even blame bad weather on the Co2 trace gas, with some even going so far as to blame earthquakes and war on the man-made CO2 molecules in the air.
    
    – See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/31/green-psychologists-confirm-climate-alarmists-are-making-themselves-mentally-sick-doomer-depression/#sthash.K0xRutGK.dpuf
    
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    September 26, 2016 1:03pm
- Griff
  
  Dear dear
  The funny thing is my poor little screen licker
  If all the worlds scientific body’s, the Pentagon and the worlds governments are alarmed about global warming you should be too .
  If your are not you are deluded.
  https://www.opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php
  http://unfccc.int/paris_agreement/items/9485.php
  http://www.defense.gov/News/News-Releases/News-Release-View/Article/612812/dod-releases-report-on-security-implications-of-climate-change
  
  By the way my insane little loon.
  Your post is nothing but yet more trolling to get attention.
  
  Almost all of us know that these people are psychiatrically ill but many of us have been ignorant about the technical term for the disease that manifests itself as climate alarmism. A new published research at the University of Sydney fills this hole and sheds some light on my question:
  
  What the report actually says
  
  Methods: The sample comprised 50 patients with OCD checking subtype who had presented at the Anxiety Disorders Clinic at The University of Sydney seeking treatment during the period March 2008 to November 2009. Details of the type of obsessions and compulsions directly related to climate change phenomena were identified.
  
  Results: Fourteen of the 50 participants (28%) were identified as having OCD concerns directly related to climate change.
  
  So what the study actually says is 28% of people who already have one form of OCD are alarmed about climate change not that people alarmed about climate change have a mental issue
  When you have to lie to support your point it demonstrates your opinion is worthless.
  
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  September 26, 2016 12:58pm
  - Icarus
    
    Griff I gave you a peer reviewed published study from a Journal that proves you have an illness.
    
    You have OCD and you should seek help to manage your condition. Self medicating, typing “troll-screen licker” all day, is not helping.
    
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    September 26, 2016 1:00pm
    - Griff
      
      Again the blabbering
      You did not “proves you have an illness” you posted a report that says 30% of people with a form of OCD are alarmed about climate change. I dont have OCD .
      That you blabber even more is why I just point out what a whacko you are .
      Now my little whacko will you address the point I made ?
      The pentagon report The list of scientific body’s and the governments that have signed the Paris agreement are all organizations alarmed about global warming
      Are they all insane ?
      Or much more likely you are …..
      
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      September 26, 2016 1:07pm
      - Icarus
        
        I am trying to help. You clearly have issues and OCD is one of them. You also lack anger and impulse control. You harbor conspiracy theories and think the world is ending.
        
        You need help.
        
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        September 26, 2016 1:10pm
      - Griff
        
        More gibbering.
        You see my deluded little troll when someone makes a point you either refute it or acknowledge it .
        I refuted your report it does not say what you claimed
        and added a point of my own by listing links to some of those organizations concerned about climate change.
        In a debate with a sane person you would need to address my point .
        Instead you as usual blabber more dribbling stupidity .
        
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        September 26, 2016 1:15pm
      - Icarus
        
        So in your ~~ward~~ world, typing “troll” “screen licker” is refuting a point ?
        
        Oh dear Griffy, deary deary me.
        
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        September 26, 2016 1:18pm
      - Manolo
        
        I insist: Griff is a perfectly sane individual, full of knowledge and open to contrary ideas.
        
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        September 26, 2016 6:35pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    So Griff, by your own comment, your opinion is worthless.
    
    Icarus, there’s peer reviewed and peer reviewed. One sort has the “right” conclusions and therefore is irrefutable. The other has the wrong results and therefore the author’s must be vilified and attacked without mercy.
    
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    September 26, 2016 1:50pm
    - Griff
      
      Conspiracy
      The world scientist are perverting peer review in a big lefty conspiracy to steel money of right wingers.
      Every major scientific body and government are in on it .
      yip Ed .
      Go buy a big economy role of tinfoil and stay of the cheap wine mate.
      
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      September 26, 2016 1:59pm
      - Icarus
        
        Conspiracy !!!!!
        
        Oil companies have an evil plan to end the entire world for PROFITS !!!!!!!!!!! [because killing your customer base is what all businesses try and do to maximise profits]
        
        And they are trying to hide the terrible SHOCKING !!!! truth by paying Kiwiblog commentors to deny it.
        
        Oh Griff, y0u poor broken sick little man 🙂
        
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        September 26, 2016 3:07pm
Tauhei Notts

I read Rodney Hide’s comment in National Business Review. It seemed like a dig at John Key. Rodney wrote;
“A good politician these days is one good at winning votes rather than good at governing or making tough decisions. The distinction is a sharp one.”
IU think he cuts to “the chase.”
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September 26, 2016 12:34pm
kowtow

Any Coro fans out there?

Bit of a diversity dividend own goal there.

“The Pakistan-born actor, 45, joined the ITV soap as Sharif Nazir in February 2014 as a member of the first Muslim family on the cobbles.

The Sunday Mirror published screenshots of messages posted on his private Twitter account that appeared to hit out at India over Kashmir and called for Pakistani actors to stop working in the country. They also referred to Indian people as “bastards” and “piss-drinking cunts”.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/sep/25/coronation-street-marc-anwar-sharif-nazir-sacked-racist-twitter
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September 26, 2016 12:37pm
- Gabby
  
  Is he the one that were next to Elsie Tanner?
  
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  September 26, 2016 6:58pm
Jack5

Who is a person who opposes neo-apartheid to vote for at the next general election?

National early this year gave Ngai Tahu two non-elected seats on the Canterbury Regional Council while other members are suspended, and now National seems set to give Maori-reserved seats on the Taranaki Regional Council.

Winston Peters’ party recently said it would oppose the Taranaki move, but seems to be backtracking after its Maori supporters kicked up about it delaying Treaty settlement legislation.

Who are we to choose, if when the time comes to vote, on the party choice section of the slip, the word “National” in our eyes shimmers and morphs into “Finlayson”?
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September 26, 2016 12:55pm
William of Ockham

Clinton fucked a few.

Drumpf will fuck billions.

He couldn’t run a Rotary Club.
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September 26, 2016 12:58pm
BananaLlama

Trump has taken Colorado according to the latest polls being released. Providing he doesn’t shit the bed in any of the debates things are looking pretty good.
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September 26, 2016 1:02pm
- mikenmild
  
  What does ‘Trump has taken Colorado’ mean? Trump has led in about 3 of 10-12 polls there in the last month.
  
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  September 26, 2016 1:09pm
  - Icarus
    
    It means Hillary is losing dimwit.
    
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    September 26, 2016 1:20pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    10 – 12 polls? your smoking green mate.
    
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    September 26, 2016 1:52pm
    - cha
      
      HRC leads in 11 of 13, actually.
      /
      
      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/co/colorado_trump_vs_clinton-5751.html#polls
      
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      September 26, 2016 1:59pm
      - BananaLlama
        
        Sure but they aren’t this month let alone the most recent some of them go back to 2015.
        
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        September 26, 2016 2:11pm
    - Griff
      
      538
      Same result.
      http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/colorado/
      
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      September 26, 2016 2:03pm
    - mikenmild
      
      It would appear that you are the one who is delusional.
      
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      September 26, 2016 2:12pm
- BananaLlama
  
  For the month of September (not August and not last year either) For the State of Colorado.
  
  Trump +4 (Emerson College)
  Trump +3 (Ipsos)
  Trump +4 (latest poll from Gravis)
  Trump Tied (SurveyMonkey)
  
  8 polls for the September month and he is leading in the latest why is this so hard for you to accept without straw manning.
  
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  September 26, 2016 2:18pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Sep. 21-23 YouGov Clinton +1
    Sep. 13-21 Quinnipiac University Clinton +2
    Sep. 22-23 Gravis Marketing Trump +4
    Sep. 9-13 Emerson College Trump +4
    Sep. 14-18 Franklin & Marshall College Clinton +7
    Sep. 14-20 Google Consumer Surveys Clinton +12
    Sep. 2-15 Ipsos Trump +5
    Sep. 7-13 Google Consumer Surveys Clinton +6
    Source: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/colorado/
    
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    September 26, 2016 2:35pm
    - BananaLlama
      
      Here is proof. http://imgur.com/a/NJstN
      
      Source : http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/colorado/#now
      Click Show more polls.
      Click updates on side bar.
      
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      September 26, 2016 2:51pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Interesting. So from the end of August to now the trend is Clintons lead is shrinking and Trump has closed the gap to within the margin of error.
      
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      September 26, 2016 2:55pm
      - BananaLlama
        
        The only thing that’s keeping Colorado’s averages competitive are the Google Consumer Surveys.
        
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        September 26, 2016 3:05pm
      - mikenmild
        
        So when 538 gives Clinton a 62% chance of taking Colorado, they are making it up?
        
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        September 26, 2016 3:18pm
Icarus

I just hope Hillary’s medical team can keep her alive long enough to see Trump become POTUS 🙂

Down tick away lefty haters, your time is coming to an end as decent people have their say.

MOMENTUM! TRUMP Takes 2 Point Lead in COLORADO – 5 Point Lead in OHIO
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September 26, 2016 1:08pm
Kimbo

@ tom hunter

Interesting factoid concerning the Depression-era gangster, John Dillinger:

Dillinger spent most of July 1934 holed up in a Chicago apartment with new girlfriend Polly Hamilton and brothel owner named Anna Sage. He successfully evaded police for most of that month—even attending Chicago Cubs baseball games—but his days were numbered. After the price on his head soared to $25,000, the Romanian-born Sage contacted the FBI and offered to give him up for part of the reward money as well as aid in avoiding deportation. On July 22, 1934, federal agents were watching as Sage, Hamilton and Dillinger went to see the Clark Gable crime film “Manhattan Melodrama” at Chicago’s Biograph Theater. When the trio stepped out onto the sidewalk shortly after 10:30 p.m., agents closed in with guns drawn. Dillinger struggled to pull a.380 automatic from his pocket, but was quickly cut down in a hail of bullets. He died on the scene.

http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-john-dillinger

And to give credit where it is due, the Cubs were worth seeing during that period, having made it to the 1932 World Series, when Babe Ruth famously “called his shot” at Wrigley Field. The Cubs lost, btw. But then as has been pointed out it has been a while since they won the big one.

But as with John Dillinger, 1934 must have been death for Cubs fans – the St Louis Cardinals (the famous “Gashouse gang” that included Dizzy Dean, Leo Durocher and Joe Medwick) beat another mid-West team, the Detroit Tigers (Mickey Cochrane and Hank Greenberg) in that year’s World Series.

Just getting in the mood for the fast-approaching Baseball post-season when hopes rise…and sadly, the dreams of many are crushed. Watch this space for more updates 😉
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September 26, 2016 1:10pm
- tom hunter
  
  Are your taunts about the Hurricanes so readily forgotten?
  
  Playoffs are a crap-shoot, with the classic truism about teams that run hot and cold being accurate. Hell, just a week ago the Cubs lost a series against the godforsaken Milwaukee Brewers, who are miles out of contention.
  
  BTW – I think it was Dizzy Dean who got hit in the skull by a baseball and was rushed off to hospital, emerging to inform reporters that “They X-rayed my head and found nuthin.”
  
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  September 26, 2016 1:12pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Are your taunts about the Hurricanes so readily forgotten?
    
    Come on – the Canes have been there-or-there-abouts for a number of years in a competition that only goes back 21 season. Care to share with those who’ve come in late the last time the Cubs won? Hint for those who want to have a wild stab in the dark – the Titanic hadn’t yet been built 😉
    
    Playoffs are a crap-shoot, with the classic truism about teams that run hot and cold being accurate.
    
    Yep. very true. So you’ve entered the “bargaining” phase already? 😉 Come on, they have a 17 game(!) lead at present. That’s not “hot”, it’s positively “surface of the sun scorching”!
    
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    September 26, 2016 1:18pm
  - Kimbo
    
    I think it was Dizzy Dean who got hit in the skull by a baseball and was rushed off to hospital, emerging to inform reporters that “They X-rayed my head and found nuthin.”
    
    That’s him.
    
    The 1934 series ended in acrimony with Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis hauling Joe Medwick from the field for his own safety after the Detroit fans objected to his hard base running style. Medgwick commented
    
    “Well, I knew why [the Tiger fans] threw that garbage at me. What I don’t understand is why they brought it to the park in the first place.”
    
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    September 26, 2016 1:27pm
tom hunter

Hang on while I find that emoji again….

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🙂
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September 26, 2016 1:20pm
Tauhei Notts

The Big Debate at 2.00 p.m. tomorrow; I note that Sky News and the BBC are covering it but neither CNN nor Fox have it on their programmes.
Very unusual.
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September 26, 2016 1:23pm
- Icarus
  
  They don’t want to lose the time slot when Hillary collapses or does a no show.
  
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  September 26, 2016 1:25pm
Jack5

Liberal cougar gets her refugee:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3806243/British-aid-worker-marry-toyboy-Calais-refugee-law-student-fell-love-Calais-Jungle-proposed-just-months.html
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September 26, 2016 1:35pm
- Inandout
  
  Shades of a Catherine Tate episode in the Calais hookup-
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udnA0IkLTTM
  
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  September 26, 2016 1:53pm
- Manolo
  
  Will they move to Mt Roskill?
  
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  September 26, 2016 6:25pm
Jack5

Dame Devoid upsets Housewife of Auckland.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11716951
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September 26, 2016 1:59pm
- calendar girl
  
  I love the following beautifully-PC (or pretentious; take your pick) comment at the end of the “Herald” article:
  
  “The Herald has reached out to both the Commission and Sloane’s representatives for comment.”
  
  The expression for which the Herald’s anonymous neo-journalist is looking is the rather more simple word “asked” (or “requested”).
  
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  September 26, 2016 2:47pm
  - Kimbo
    
    It says much about the silliness of the Office of the Race Relations Conciliator that it has been drawn unwittingly into what was always a ratings stunt on a par with the Taylor Swift vs Katy Perry feud…not that I really know who they are or what it’s about 😉
    
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    September 26, 2016 3:03pm
    - civil serpent
      
      The Office of the Race Relations Conciliator died a legislative death in 2002, which something I thought most pompous nit-pickers might be aware of. Plainly not.
      
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      September 26, 2016 5:57pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Um, you pick me up on Race Relations Conciliator instead of Commissioner, and recite the year that the legislative change occurred….and I’m the “pompous nit-picker”?
        
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        September 26, 2016 6:30pm
  - Brigitte
    
    I’ve often wondered whether “PC” is best translated as “Pretentious Claptrap”.
    
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    September 26, 2016 3:31pm
- stephieboy
  
  jack 5 , and what excites or titillates you about so-called Real Housewives apart from possibly the “boat nigger “reference ?
  
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  September 26, 2016 3:12pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    Calling Susan Devoy a boat nigger seems a bit harsh.
    
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    September 26, 2016 3:30pm
  - Jack5
    
    So that’s what it’s about.
    
    The ears of Stephiestan hear all.
    
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    September 26, 2016 3:49pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Some internal ructions within Angela Merkel’s CDU party.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/25/sexism-problem-angela-merkels-cdu-party-admits-jenna-behrends
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September 26, 2016 3:33pm
- kowtow
  
  Distraction politics. Take the focus off the one million gender discriminators they imported last summer. In the end though ,the CDU , masquerading as a conservative party will impose gender quotas on private industry. Just as they are trying to impose Muslim quotas on the rest of Europe. That Tuetonic authoritarian streak runs very deep.
  
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  September 26, 2016 4:13pm
All_on_Red

The debate tomorrow is going to be great.
So many rumours about each side making demands. Apparently Hillary’s team is asking that Lester Holt, the debate moderator fulfill his basic journalistic duty of serving as a human shield for Hillary.
They said they would of course, be happy to offer him a generous FBI immunity package for any cover-up services he renders as moderator. Sounds good!
Meanwhile Hillary’s team is currently rewriting NBC’s final debate question drafts. Then it will be over to Earpiece Team ALPHA for response scripting and whisper in ear practice. Exciting times!
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September 26, 2016 3:57pm
- Icarus
  
  The medical team have a big job ahead of them too. Somehow they have to keep her standing and coherent all that time. It will take some carefully administered and powerful drugs. I expect she will disappear from public view for a few days afterwards, as they bring her back down slowly.
  
  Its a risky game they are playing and she could pop at any moment.
  
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  September 26, 2016 4:48pm
  - Scott
    
    I find that fascinating too. Will she fall down, will she start coughing and will she be able to not cackle? Will she start shouting at the deplorables in the audience?
    If she falls or faints then its over for her.
    
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    September 26, 2016 4:54pm
    - Icarus
      
      Her medical team can only do so much. They will have contingency plans for everything and media cover stories in place and ready to go.
      
      Her corrupt backers have spent hundreds of millions on her and they want a return on the investment in political favours and law making. They were payments for services, not donations.
      
      Oh and she won’t be allowed her stool to prop her up: http://ijr.com/2016/09/700292-hillary-gets-crushing-news-about-first-presidential-debate-and-she-wont-take-it-lying-down/
      
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      September 26, 2016 4:59pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Coupe Icari (Icarus Cup ) 2016

http://www.coupe-icare.org/GB_home.html
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September 26, 2016 4:40pm
Icarus

The lies the alarmist tell keep growing. A bit like the Antarctic ice pack 🙂

Ocean acidification: yet another wobbly pillar of climate alarmism
A paper review suggests many studies are flawed, and the effect may not be negative even if it’s real

Ocean acidification — the evidence increasingly suggests — is a trivial, misleadingly named, and not remotely worrying phenomenon which has been hyped up beyond all measure for political, ideological and financial reasons.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/ocean-acidification-yet-another-wobbly-pillar-of-climate-alarmism/
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September 26, 2016 5:30pm
Icarus

Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare

United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer:

“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole,” said Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015.

So what is the goal of environmental policy?

“We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” said Edenhofer.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/
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September 26, 2016 5:38pm
Griff

ROFL
Gibbering at the moon Icarus .

Climate change denier James Delingpole doesn’t read or understand the evidence. here is Delingpole admitting as such.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wv3dIjrcsk
sorry mate the world does not listen to gibbering loons like you .
http://unfccc.int/paris_agreement/items/9485.php
Currently, there are 189 signatories to the Paris Agreement.
At COP 21 in Paris, Parties to the UNFCCC reached a landmark agreement to combat climate change and to accelerate and intensify the actions and investments needed for a sustainable low carbon future.

The Paris Agreement builds upon the Convention and – for the first time – brings all nations into a common cause to undertake take ambitious efforts to combat climate change and adapt to its effects, with enhanced support to assist developing countries to do so. As such, it charts a new course in the global climate effort.

The Paris Agreement’s central aim is to strengthen the global response to the threat of climate change by keeping a global temperature rise this century well below 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase even further to 1.5 degrees Celsius. Additionally, the agreement aims to strengthen the ability of countries to deal with the impacts of climate change. To reach these ambitious goals, appropriate financial flows, a new technology framework and an enhanced capacity building framework will be put in place, thus supporting action by developing countries and the most vulnerable countries, in line with their own national objectives. The Agreement also provides for enhanced transparency of action and support through a more robust transparency framework.
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September 26, 2016 5:47pm
- Icarus
  
  The statement was made by former United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer.
  
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  September 26, 2016 5:51pm
  - Griff
    
    Whatever .
    Currently there are 189 signatories to the Paris Agreement.
    The world has moved on.
    Climate change denial is just an interesting foot note in history.
    
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    September 26, 2016 5:58pm
    - Icarus
      
      Yes just like United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer said, it is not about the environment. It is a political movement. I have been telling you that all along.
      
      Are you “denying”what the United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer said Griff ?
      
      Are any of those 189 signatories climate scientists Griff, or are they all politicians ?
      
      Or is it time to have a meltdown and start reciting your mantra troll troll troll because you have been caught out again ?
      
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      September 26, 2016 6:11pm
      - SPC
        
        Fly as close to the flame as you like, but I doubt that enlightenment is going to occur in your case.
        
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        September 26, 2016 6:17pm
    - Icarus
      
      SPC, maybe you could write and angry letter to United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer, instead of making a fool of yourself here.
      
      Shooting the messenger won’t change anything and people have had a guts full of your lies.
      
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      September 26, 2016 6:21pm
      - sam green
        
        What an angry man you are Icarus. Is it because you are bald? Or short?
        
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        September 26, 2016 6:29pm
      - SPC
        
        Hi kea. Still paranoid that global warming is going to fry your little brain?
        
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        September 26, 2016 6:32pm
      - Kimbo
        
        What an angry man you are Icarus. Is it because you are bald? Or short?
        
        Short, green and female
        
        http://www.doc.govt.nz/global/images/nature/native-animals/birds/kea/kea-milford-sbernert-1200.jpg
        
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        September 26, 2016 6:33pm
Griff

yip Icarus
I tried to find the source of the quote
Your story linked to a story in 2010 on WUWT a denial whacko site.
From there it linked to the GWPF another denial wacko site where the trail went cold .
The story has no proof or evidence that what was reported was actually said just bullshit in the whacko climate denial echochamber.
So whatever.
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September 26, 2016 6:31pm
- Icarus
  
  Really. You see I found a paper quoting it. Please stop the lies Griff. Others can check google too.
  
  You are really not putting the effort into your trolling lately. Is everything okay at home ? 🙂
  
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  September 26, 2016 6:33pm
  - Griff
    
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Investor's_Business_Daily
    Investor’s Business Daily (IBD) is an American “newspaper” (with associated website) that (obviously) covers mostly financial, business, and investment news. Its op-eds are, similarly, chock-full of Ben Steinery along with numerous denialist hit pieces, astroturf, and mouthing off by bottom-of-the-barrel wingnuts (e.g., Brent Bozell) in a way that makes the op-ed pages of The Wall Street Journal look like the Daily Worker.
    
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    September 26, 2016 6:38pm
  - sam green
    
    What’s your degree in Icarus?
    
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    September 26, 2016 6:50pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Dialectics
      
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      September 26, 2016 10:43pm
EAD

Reason 841 not to vote fir Hillary:

You’re now in the boat with he “famous for being famous” mudshark Kim Kardashian who has declared her allegiance:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/84643668/kim-kardashian-explains-why-she-wont-be-voting-trump-after-all
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September 26, 2016 6:34pm
Reid

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/how-the-liberal-press-will-game-the-trump-hillary-debate/
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September 26, 2016 6:38pm
KevinH

The Presidential debates are a different ball game to the primaries, and it is in these debates that Hillary will have the edge with her political experience.
Throw away one liners and insults won”t work for Trump in these debates. A more mature sophisticated approach is required. The Dems will be counting on Trump making a fool of himself. Tactics such as parading Bill’s ex misdemeanors will portray Trump as mean spirited and vindictive.
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September 26, 2016 6:38pm
- Kimbo
  
  it is in these debates that Hillary will have the edge with her political experience.
  
  Um, I’m no Trump supporter, but other parachuting into a very safe Democratic New York senate seat, she hasn’t actually won anything. Sure, she’s been associated with Bill Clinton and has campaigned on his behalf – but that is different from being the actual candidate who has to front under pressure.
  
  In contrast, Trump is a born salesman. Yes, a presidential candidates’ debate is different from the primaries but he knocked out very experienced campaigners there, politicians far more effective and experienced than Hillary Clinton. And as the front-runner and the supposedly “clever” and “informed” candidate facing a “stupid” opponent appealing to the “common denominator”, she is the one under pressure to deliver – like Carter in 1980 and Al Gore in 2000.
  
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  September 26, 2016 6:48pm
  - sam green
    
    I keep wanting to say that I don’t care … but the impact of this nation’s decision is significant. I would prefer they had credible candidates on both sides.
    
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    September 26, 2016 6:52pm
- RF
  
  Bugger.. Hit the wrong button. It’s too close to reply.
  
  Anyhow moving on…. If Trump stuffs up the debates and declared a loser what happens when a shit load of dodgy emails lands on the crooked woman’s fat head…..
  
  Does Bernie saddle up and comes riding back ?
  
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  September 26, 2016 6:52pm
Manolo

Our own stephieboy could be there lending a hand to his hero:
https://mobile.twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/780251041006817280
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September 26, 2016 6:39pm
All_on_Red

The Paris Agreement is a bit of a waste of time. Even James Hansen has rubbished it.
Basically they all promise to do the best they can to meet the targets and agree to review their efforts in five years time.
But yes, a lot of countries signed it.
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September 26, 2016 6:41pm
Manolo

Barbaric killings like this are ignored by the MSM:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/25/jordanian-writer-shot-dead-trial-insulting-islam-nahed-hattar
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September 26, 2016 6:46pm
- Griff
  
  Barbaric killings like this are ignored by the MSM:
  Links to a story in the MSM …..
  Drinking to much again
  
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  September 26, 2016 6:52pm
- Gabby
  
  Is that story about how the Guardian is ignoring the story?
  
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  September 26, 2016 7:22pm
  - sam green
    
    I think it’s about Manolo ignoring that the Guardian isn’t ignoring the story.
    
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    September 26, 2016 7:27pm
SPC

Ottmar Edenhofer “Denying out and out that climate change is a problem for humanity, as some cynics do, is an unethical, unacceptable position.”

The sort of position required to be appointed to the role he held. His background is economics and with an interest in economic systems – like many others who studied Marxist economic theory (yes climate change politics is a refuge for the international left).

The international political consensus (which includes governments of capitalist first world nations) is that global policy be consistent with development goals. Thus the burden of reduced carbon use targets falling on the already developed world and aid to the developing world including renewable energy tech/capability.

Somewhat short of global socialism …
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September 26, 2016 6:51pm
Reid

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-24/heres-how-cia-puppet-masters-are-deliberately-picking-world-war-iii-level-fight

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/360225-us-road-map-balkanize-syria/

http://www.unz.com/tsaker/why-the-recent-developments-in-syria-show-that-the-obama-administration-is-in-a-state-of-confused-agony/

Don’t you sheeple get it?

Fuck sheeple are stoooooooooooooopid.
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September 26, 2016 6:53pm
- SPC
  
  All PNAC wanted was
  
  1. a total victory for the global market capitalism with the left wing state socialists toppled (Iraq, Syria Libya, Cuba, – with a free market Latin America, TPP, TTIP etc).
  
  and
  
  2. An Islamist political activism emerging in the ME and being a terrorist threat to the west to enable the continuance of American security leadership on the Cold War model.
  
  No WW3 in their plan.
  
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  September 26, 2016 7:02pm
  - Reid
    
    Apart from a “new Pearl Harbour” right?
    
    And that hasn’t changed anything at all, has it.
    
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    September 26, 2016 7:11pm
Captain Mainwaring

Ronchi’s 80 the highest score from anyone on either tesm. Guptill another 0.
Time for a change at the top?
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September 26, 2016 7:09pm
- stigie
  
  Taylor run out like a school boy playing school boy cricket on a Saturday morning..?
  
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  September 26, 2016 7:24pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Yes, his time is also up.
    
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    September 26, 2016 7:46pm
    - Kimbo
      
      @ stigie & Captain Mainwaring
      
      Sorry, but by NZ standards Taylor is an all time great. A better test average than Bert Sutcliffe, Glenn Turner, Martin Crowe, Andrew Jones, Stephen Fleming and Brendan McCullum, 2nd (behind Crowe) on the NZ test centuries list, and 3rd (behind Fleming and McCullum) in test run aggregate. Plus his relatively recent form has been good – that monster innings against Australia last season, and two centuries a couple of months ago. Oh yes, and he has hands like buckets:
      
      LRPL Taylor
      Tests: 74
      Innings: 135
      Not Outs: 16
      Runs: 5616
      High Score: 290
      Average: 47.19
      Centuries: 15
      Fifties: 25
      Catches: 121
      
      http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-new-zealand-2016-17/engine/match/1030213.html
      
      To put Taylor into current perspective, Kane Williamson averages 51.05, and has 4493 runs and 14 centuries, but then by the time he retires he will likely top 10,000 runs with 30 test centuries.
      
      Taylor’s most recent scores (1, 1, 0, 17) aren’t great, but you don’t drop a classy player for that sort of blip. Form is temporary, class is permanent – and it’s not like New Zealand ever has plenty of talent to replace the likes of a proven performer like Rosco.
      
      Guptill on the other hand….
      
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      September 26, 2016 8:31pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        One has to wonder whether Taylor’s past is a shitload better than his future.
        Williamson on the other hand…….
        
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        September 26, 2016 8:50pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Well as past consistency is the usual method by which one tries to predict future performance, call me a rash optimist if you will, but I’m guessing Taylor’s continued selection and achievements are most likely.
        
        But if I apply that same criterion to Martin Guptill – or Andrew Little for that matter in his field of competitive endeavour- then the dots join themselves 😉
        
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        September 26, 2016 9:15pm
DifferentPerspective

Australian media whores Ch 7 set-up the burkini stunt

And once again – another proof as to why trust and confidence in the down-under media is rock-bottom and tunnelling lower. Ch7 are now competing with the kidnappers at Ch9 for the most dishonest broadcaster in the world.

Revelations (somehow overlooked by NZ media – funny that!) that set-up the French beach burkini shoot.

Oh and the useless fuckers broke a bunch of French privacy laws filming people without their permission. Lol got to love it when those insane socialist laws come up and bite other insane socialists in the arse like this.

It always looked dodgy (imagine the good fortune of happening to have long distance paparazzi cameras pointing at the burkini bitch at the right time) not suspicious at all.

So now we need to change the old saying to “You can’t believe ANYTHING you read in the papers”!
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September 26, 2016 7:34pm
Hugh Pavletich

CHINESE LITERALLY STAMPEDE PROPERTY – (CROSS-POST) MACROBUSINESS AUSTRALIA

Chinese literally stampede property – MacroBusiness Australia
… video …

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2016/09/chinese-literally-stampede-property/

Cross-posted from Investing in Chinese Stocks.

“Birdcage” apartments with an area of 6 square meters sold for 150,000 yuan per square meter this weekend. The rooms are in a building built as a hotel on Shahe East Road, in the Nanshan District. A common kitchen area and bathroom is available. … read more via hyperlink above …
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September 26, 2016 7:36pm
big bruv

More proof that rugby players can and do get away with pretty much anything. This type of behaviour is just treated as “the boys letting off some steam”. Its fucking disgraceful.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/wellington-lions-player-losi-filipo-escapes-conviction-after-group-attack-2016092618?ref=newshubFB
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September 26, 2016 7:52pm
- dad4justice
  
  Keep your powder dry Heather. Boot and ruck!
  
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  September 26, 2016 8:29pm
  - stigie
    
    That could apply to the Professor as well Dad ole chap..?
    
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    September 26, 2016 9:02pm
    - dad4justice
      
      Does Clint Heine have 6 different identities on here stigfly?
      
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      September 26, 2016 9:18pm
      - stigie
        
        That’s a question for Big Bruv Dad, im sure he could answer that in his usual fashion and in a timely manner..?
        Hang on…..I thought i was Big Bruv !~
        
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        September 26, 2016 9:25pm
      - sam green
        
        Are you Clint Heine daddy4justin?
        
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        September 26, 2016 10:13pm
      - stigie
        
        Daddy4 just in…..that’s a bit rude Sam ole chap..?
        
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        September 26, 2016 10:19pm
      - sam green
        
        Sorry. No in tent intended.
        
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        September 26, 2016 11:11pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  I hope some opposition MP critisizes this. Judges need to be held to account when they do not do their jobs without fear, favour or prejustice.
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:27pm
- wiseowl
  
  Your right on this one BB.
  The guy bashes two guys and two chicks for no reason.
  Extremely violent and the rugby club says he’s sorry and knows he did wrong.
  They should have told him to PO.
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:53pm
- RF
  
  Bone head knuckle dragging scum.
  
  Good ole rugby arse holes and a fuckwit mayor covering for low life thugs. I see the warrior gene is being kept alive. Christ soon they will revert back to eating people.
  
  What a sick joke………
  
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  September 26, 2016 10:12pm
Reid

American Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) states, “There’s an American imprint on every civilian life lost in Yemen,” according to CNN. Under the administration of President Barack Obama the US has sold more weapons to Saudi Arabia than any other administration. America also assisted the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen by intelligence and refueling planes during airstrikes. “If you talk Yemenis, they will tell you, this is not perceived to be a Saudi bombing campaign. This is perceived to be a U.S. bombing campaign,” Murphy said.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160926/1045692944/west-supports-war-crime.html
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September 26, 2016 8:14pm
Reid

Washington’s regime change machinery has for the time being succeeded in removing an important link in the alliance of large emerging nations by railroading through a Senate impeachment of the duly elected President, Dilma Rousseff. On August 31 her Vice President Michel Temer was sworn in as President. In his first speech as president, the cynical Temer called for a government of “national salvation,” asking for the trust of the Brazilian people. He indicated plans to reform, and has also signaled his intention to overhaul the pension system and labor laws, and cut public spending, all themes beloved of Wall Street banks, of the International Monetary Fund and their Washington Consensus. Now after less than three weeks at the job, Temer has unveiled plans for wholesale privatization of Brazil’s crown jewels, starting with oil. The planned Wall Street rape of Brazil is about to begin.

http://journal-neo.org/2016/09/24/washington-tries-to-break-brics-rape-of-brazil-begins/
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September 26, 2016 8:34pm
nasska

If you’re a journalist working for any of the main NZ newspapers then remember……

…..make it quick, make it short, make it good & make it count.

And if that doesn’t work, make it up.
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September 26, 2016 8:53pm
- Reid
  
  or use your stenography skills
  
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  September 26, 2016 9:03pm
- Inandout
  
  Newspapers in NZ are dying, as witnessed by the stacks of unsold copies in supermarkets and desperate measures to get subscribers by virtually giving them away. If you are a journalist working for any NZ newspaper, then change your career pronto.
  
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  September 26, 2016 10:30pm
  - Reid
    
    or start practising it
    
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    September 26, 2016 10:39pm
Manolo

Impartiality above all:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/26/ed-boards-scramble-to-undercut-trump-ahead-1st-debate-as-polls-show-dead-heat.html
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September 27, 2016 6:30am
Manolo

stephieboy has been seen buying gold in Mt Roskill:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-25/citi-says-gold-may-be-volatile-raises-odds-on-trump-win-to-40
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