General Debate 22 September 2016

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Manolo

The MSM is getting nervous:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/on-a-street-in-ohio-defiant-democrats-flock-to-trump/
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September 22, 2016 8:01am
- LisaGinNZ
  
  That’s because their propaganda is not working any more.
  
  #Trump100%
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:23am
- All_on_Red
  
  From the article.
  ‘“They know he’s not really a Republican, and that Mitt Romney hates him, so that helps,” Psaric said of the voters in his community. “So instead it’s like, ‘I’m not becoming a country club Republican, I’m a part of Trump’s party.’”
  
  There it is. Trumps movement for change.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:28am
All_on_Red

What’s happened to Straya and his updates?
Oh well.
‘The latest vote projection from elections guru Nate Silver has Republican Donald Trump just six electoral votes short of winning and one point away from equaling Hillary Clinton’s popular vote.
The newest Five Thirty Eight survey Trump at 264 and Clinton at 272, two more than needed. It’s the closest in recent weeks.’
‘Silver is famous for making a prediction of victory and that’s nearly close to, Clinton at 51.9 percent and Trump at 48 percent, his closest since the conventions.’
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nate-silver-trump-surges-from-3-to-48-chance-of-winning-in-1-month/article/2602386

Hillary is outspending Trump but it’s not working…
‘WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Clinton spent $645,000 more a day than her opponent Donald Trump last month, but even with her $50 million campaign outlay, she has not been able to pull away from him in the race for the White House.

Clinton’s campaign had its most expensive month to date in August, eclipsing its previous monthly high by more than $12 million. And combined, Clinton and the national Democratic Party paid out $78 million in August, while Trump and the Republican National Committee spent about $47 million.’
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e80b356a03204fff8b260618cb458017/clinton-campaign-raced-through-50-million-last-month
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September 22, 2016 8:09am
- LisaGinNZ
  
  The MSM and Soros’ paid groups who do the polling are lying to you… Hillary does NOT have the votes. The polls are skewed to favor her.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:24am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Lisa- your enthusiasm is admirable but the fact is the Polls in the US have not been wrong since about 1952. If they are- this will be the first time.
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:31am
    - G152
      
      Currently most polls have missed the boat.
      For example here at the last election.
      Then Brexit.
      Remember all the polls showed that Britain was going to stay in
      
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      September 22, 2016 8:47am
      - redqueen
        
        Which still doesn’t mean they ‘skewed’. What is more likely, at this stage, is that the relentless media narratives (DOOM, DOOM, DOOM – and anyone who doesn’t agree with us is a racist, evil, white person) may no longer be resonating and people are simply not being truthful (‘conservative bias’) or the questions are poorly structured (‘Do you think this country should in a hell of its own making’ – aka, do you support Brexit). I am inclined to think both are true, as the endless mamby-pamby nonsense we’re subject to, daily, means if someone asks, ‘How will you vote’ my answer would probably be polite, rather than honest.
        
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        September 22, 2016 8:55am
    - cmm
      
      “Polls in the US have not been wrong since about 1952”
      
      Here’s the difference:
      
      1) In the past the MSM was less partisan (or maybe they were but we could not tell. See 2)..
      
      2) In the past, the MSM could control the narrative more. Now there are blogs etc.
      
      3) This election the verbal abuse thrown at Trump supporters is more, and more orchestrated, than ever before. That means there are a lot of people who are saying “I don’t know” rather than say they support Trump. Polls normally dismiss the “I don’t know” answers. If those are more Trump than Clinton then it will be a game changer.
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:00am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Don’t disagree with 1,2 or the first part of 3. Not sure about your conclusions though. The US still has a high coverage of landlines, so access is easy. Polling companies are saying Trump supporters aren’t shy in announcing their support but actually do so proudly and defiantly.
        So not sure about the shy Tory effect.
        If there is any reason for the Polls to be wrong it will be in the sampling and where they are Polling.
        Personally I think turnout will be the difference and Dems wanting change- that means they will either not vote or will vote Trump. And those who haven’t voted before or don’t usually vote voting this time. I’m thinking blue collar and middle class here.
        The Debate is going to be Yuge and very very important for both.
        
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        September 22, 2016 9:21am
      - cmm
        
        All_in_Red: Sorry I clicked on report by mistake instead of reply.
        
        ” Polling companies are saying Trump supporters aren’t shy in announcing their support but actually do so proudly and defiantly.”
        
        Quite. The people who are saying they’re pro-Trump are those that are “bold and defiant”. Those that are buying and wearing the “proud to be despicable” Tshirts.
        
        So where are the Trump supporters who are not prepared to be “bold and defiant”? They’re hiding in the “don’t knows”.
        
        There is far less vitriol being thrown at Clinton supporters, so they are not being “bold and defiant”. They are all prepared to say they support Clinton.
        
        Hence, I think the “undecided” will have a lot of Trump supporters who won’t say anything but will put their X next to Trump.
        
        The shy Tory effect is real and is a natural response to the hostility in the MSM, social media, etc.
        
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        September 22, 2016 9:37am
      - All_on_Red
        
        No worries cmm.
        I think there could be shy Tories in the middle class who are in the blue states and want to hide from either their wife or their friends so I can see you could be right there, but would they hide that in a phone poll?
        I do think that there’s probably quite a few Dems who out of peer pressure say they support Hillary but on the day won’t vote… And some who will vote Trump.
        This is the best Election contest I have ever seen!
        
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        September 22, 2016 9:55am
    - mikenmild
      
      What is ‘admirable’ about Lisa’s deluded state?
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:11am
  - redqueen
    
    Trump has made some pretty impressive strides in the past month. However, that doesn’t mean the polls are wrong and using that as a justification for victory is dangerous.
    
    ‘The only poll that matters is on election night’ has been the battle cry of losers for a very long time. If Trump wins, it will have been an impressive upward slog (regardless of whether I am pro or con the man), but it will not be because the polls ‘got it wrong’ (if that occurs, it will be because the sampling methods failed, not because they were rigged in the first place).
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:40am
    - Ross12
      
      redqueen,
      
      Zvet put up an interesting NYT piece yesterday about a little experiment they did with polling companies –they gave 4 (?) companies the raw data from a poll and the results they produced were all over the place.
      I don’t think I’d take poll results as gospel –but I take Lisa’s point and think if there is any skewing it would be against Trump.
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:02am
      - redqueen
        
        It’s entirely possible and different methodologies may yield very different results, but I don’t think that’s showing structural bias just yet. Again, it’s possible people are either being untruthful or the questions are very poorly structured, but that is something I would be quietly confident about (and be doing additional analysis of) rather than applying as a blanket statement. But if the question is simply, ‘Who do you plan to vote for’, then I think most people would be reasonably honest (unless there is a serious deficiency in honesty).
        
        Also, as always, the aggregate of polls remains the most reliable (as major deviations should be ironed out).
        
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        September 22, 2016 9:09am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  When the Republicans had more money, the media never stopped going on about ‘the corrosive effect of money on politics’. Now they hardly mention it.
  
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  September 22, 2016 10:18am
- waripori
  
  The polls have widened in Clintons favour a bit over the weekend. She now leads in the RCP average by 1.9% nationally which is up from 0.9 late last week. The average understates the trend so the actual position today may be a bit better for Clinton May be something to do with birthers or dodgy donations or maybe anti trump leaners getting a fright because the pools closed up.
  The 538 projections show Trump winning Nevada , Iowa, Ohio and Florida, keeping North Carolina in the red column and still not becoming President. He has to win Pennsylvania to win the election.
  Still Clintons to lose but the debates will be crucial.
  
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  September 22, 2016 11:37am
Manolo

The well-known perv strikes again:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/09/21/report_anthony_weiner_allegedly_sexted_with_high_schooler.html
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September 22, 2016 8:15am
- All_on_Red
  
  Ewwww, did he call her a ‘honeypot’?
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:17am
Happychappy

So now they have changed from Maori to Pasifika youth in poverty and living in a room other than a bedroom.Well before the Media print stories like this they should print all facts like these people send money that could be used to give them better living conditions back to their families in the Islands.It is their choice to live the way they do and the media again lack facts
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September 22, 2016 8:16am
- Keeping Stock
  
  @ Happychappy – before I married the current Mrs Stock I boarded with a Maori friend whose bed was in the lounge of his house; by choice. He liked to watch TV late at night, resented having to pay the gas company to heat the room, so he watched TV from bed, swathed in blankets.
  
  Today, the LabGreens would say he was living in poverty, and was homeless. He was anything but. With some Scots ancestry, he was just being canny with his pennies!
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:33am
- G152
  
  And not to mention how much they give to their bludging churches every week
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:48am
- waikatogirl
  
  PI children worrying there is not enough money for food.
  No mention of PI’s being expected to give money to their churches.
  Charity begins at home – feed your kids first.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:22am
Jack5

Congolese refugees in NZ abuse daughter, and their defence is she is a witch.

A great addition to the country.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11714302
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September 22, 2016 8:17am
- Manolo
  
  Residents of refined and multicultural Mt Roskill perhaps?
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:21am
- Simon
  
  Yeah but the daughter seems pretty righteous. She has a shot at having a decent life in NZ. If she was still in the Congo she would be fucked.
  
  It is what Trump & his skittles analogy is all about.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:21am
  - All_on_Red
    
    I see that Skittle analogy has been used before. By feminists about men and the rapists amongst them…
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:24am
  - LisaGinNZ
    
    The skittles analogy has been around for a few years now – bad m&ms, bad apples, bad __ – if there are few, would you eat a handful of __?
    
    SAME THING when importing Islam into your country.
    
    Just say no to Islam. Period.
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:26am
    - stephieboy
      
      Trump jnr ’s skittles ?
      
      http://cabinet.gov.krd/grafik/uploaded/2014/syrian_refugee_photo__2014_03_21_h12m42s44__DS.jpg
      
      What a prized prick taking after his prized prick of a father !
      
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      September 22, 2016 8:43am
      - redqueen
        
        Come on, Stephie, you’re just annoyed that he wasn’t more clever. He should have said, ‘No brown M&Ms’ 😉
        
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        September 22, 2016 8:46am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Hark at the Creepy prick who leers at young girls in Cafes, eh Honeypotboy.
        
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        September 22, 2016 8:47am
- Huevon
  
  Their beliefs in witchcraft and ritual child abuse are just under appreciated (by cis white scum) examples of cultural diversity and vibrancy. We shouldn’t limited the diversity dividend to ethnic restaurants, you know?
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:28am
  - stephieboy
    
    Huevon , console yourself Like Liza GinNZ lunatic fringe stuff
    
    https://vinlandheritage.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/c17777.gif
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:45am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      If its lunatic fringe stuff we can be sure Stephen will pointing to it with glee as a reason Trump is a Nazi / baby eater / et al.
      
      inb4 Fuck off stephiebitch
      
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      September 22, 2016 8:53am
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      So you’re condoning those beliefs and behaviour in the 21st Century, Stephieboy?
      
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      September 22, 2016 8:59am
- Albert_Ross
  
  The point of taking refugees is not to make our lives better, any more than the point of giving to charity is to make ourselves richer. It is to make their lives better.
  
  This case has not actually harmed anybody who was in New Zealand before this family arrived, and the fact that they are now in New Zealand means that the daughter has a better chance of a decent life than would have been the case if they were still in the Congo.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:31am
  - stephieboy
    
    Albert Ross , the idea of compassion is an utterly alien concept to some of Trumpistas here ?
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:49am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Speaking of Alien Shapeshifters here’s the Cuntards #1 fan.
      
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      September 22, 2016 8:54am
      - Gabby
        
        Does it have a withered sagging scrotum?
        
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        September 22, 2016 9:00am
    - Inandout
      
      How can you Islamists speak of ‘compassion’, that well used word in the Quran, when it means zilch to the average terrorist? And as for being charitable:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_charities_accused_of_ties_to_terrorism
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:20am
      - sam green
        
        Note how most of the “accusers” are the US State Department. Forgive me for sniggering.
        
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        September 22, 2016 9:56am
  - cmm
    
    If we really cared about those people we’d help them fix their countries.
    
    For the cost of supporting one refugee in the West you can support ten refugees in their home country. They don’t get the challenge of trying to adapt to a new country/culture etc and we don’t have to put up with witch burners and stop eating bacon.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:04am
    - mikenmild
      
      Um, the point about refugees is that they are no longer in their home country.
      Anyway, ask those here who think we shouldn’t accept refugees whether they also think we should contribute more in overseas aid, peacekeeping troops, etc.
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:14am
- Rich Prick
  
  Embrace the diversity. Twigglypuff demands it of us.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:06am
- kowtow
  
  I don’t believe a word of it. Tell ya why, the gummint assures us they vet these people very carefully and I believe everything the gummint tells us!
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:15am
- Rich Prick
  
  Hang on. The Congolese civil war ended 20 years before the mother was even born. If they are refugees just what were they fleeing?
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:23am
  - Manolo
    
    Work? 😀
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:25am
- Stars And Stripes
  
  They say they are innocent and I think they genuinely believe this but the thing they don’t realise is that people in other areas of the world came down out of the trees years ago and stopped barbaric nonsense like this.
  Expect more of this if the government keeps allowing in people from backward primitive cesspits like the Congo.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:36am
Albert_Ross

Said it before, and it made me feel (a bit) better last time, so I will try saying it again.

Rosemary McLeod is an utterly, utterly stupid woman.
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September 22, 2016 8:20am
- RF
  
  Can I include Jane Bowron. Another self opinionated waste of space.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:58am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  If a malady such as constipation was widespread amongst your readership, then engaging Rosemary McLeod as a journalist would be an admirable public service.
  She would give any sane reader the shits.
  But if the said malady was not widespread then engaging her as a journalist is just plain silly.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:26am
Paulus

I am intrigued by the so called media experts blaming Nick Smith for the “failure” of the Kermadecs World Heritage region.
It is said that the Maori were not consulted – this is not true – many Maori groups have been in discussion for some years before it was formally announced, but because they cannot get their own way it is easy to blame Nick Smith – he is the current National Government scourge of the so called media and Maori PR people.
I believe that if the Government give way on this Maori will cheer, and continue to do this on everything.
It creates a continuing precedence which is unhealthy for our country.
And may well have an effect on the re election of the National Government. Many mature voters will not support the National by not voting. They have had enough of continually being taken to the cleaners by Maori.
Of course Angry Andy would give in if it suited him, unlike Helen Clark on the Seashore legislation – he is currently in favour of the National along with the Greens, but Russell Norman has not decided yet if it suits him.
Angry is awaiting his instruction from the union masters to the proposal but will vacillate tomorrow if it suits them when he gets back from Canada where he is meeting young Trudeau who will teach Angry what Socialism is really about. He is a typical spend spend to get Canada out of the financial crap they are in.
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September 22, 2016 8:24am
- Albert_Ross
  
  It’s been amusing watching the Greens suddenly discover the sacrosanct nature of private property rights and of contract terms, but they are not wrong on this. The Government should not take private property without agreement and/or without compensation.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:33am
  - cmm
    
    Customary rights are not private property.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:05am
    - Albert_Ross
      
      It’s not a customary right. It’s a right that was obtained under a legally valid and binding agreement.
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:13am
      - rangitoto
        
        The right was a fishing quota. Not fishing in a particular place.
        
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        September 22, 2016 10:43am
      - Albert_Ross
        
        The right was a fishing quota. Not fishing in a particular place.
        
        Not the opinion of this law professor. He says that the Maori fisheries trust, Te Ohu Kaimoana, on behalf of Iwi holds 15.5 per cent of the fishing quota in these waters.
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11712888
        
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        September 22, 2016 4:55pm
- VicParking
  
  If National give way to this it will retrospectively open the door to all existing reserved land including national parks, beach reserves, council parks and my back yard to treaty claims. If Maori wish to traditionaly fish in the kermadec’s they can paddle over their in do so.
  
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  September 22, 2016 3:33pm
  - Albert_Ross
    
    And if they don’t provide the Maori fishing quota owners with compensation for their loss, it will retrospectively open the door to Government being able to unilaterally back out of its own legally binding agreements and to expropriate anybody’s property without agreement or compensation.
    
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    September 22, 2016 4:58pm
flipper

Black exposes the obamination/clintonesque view of the world as depicted thru their eyes and those of a writer of fiction who is/was the Obamination’s disgraced Security Adviser …. see final few paras in particular …

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440203/
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September 22, 2016 8:25am
Jack5

Facebook’s Zuckerberg and his wife, Priscilla Chan, aim to one-up the Gates zillionaires. The Zuckerbergs want to beat all diseases.

Precisely their goal: “… cure, prevent or manage all diseases by the end of the century”.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37435425
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September 22, 2016 8:29am
- Rich Prick
  
  Let’s hope they have socialism on their list.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:08am
LisaGinNZ

Dear PM John Key,

Trying to “reform” the UN is useless.

“U.N. staff have run sex-slave rings, sold child porn, and embezzled millions. Peacekeeper, heal thyself.

Another United Nations summit in New York City. Another finger-wagging extravaganza. Another useless “historic declaration” (nonbinding, of course) to save the world (by holding another summit . . . in two years). As America reels from the latest terrorist attacks by Muslim refugees and immigrants in New York, New Jersey, and Minnesota, the world’s global do-gooders filled the Big Apple with their humanitarian hot air. U.N. officials convened in NYC this week to push for “collective action” to “protect the rights of refugees and migrants, to save lives and share responsibility for large movements on a global scale.”

Let me put this as politely as possible: Bug off, U.N. ”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440232/sanctimony-hypocrisy-united-nations-summit-corrupt-bureaucrats
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September 22, 2016 8:40am
- Gabby
  
  You can tell he doesn’t ackshly give a shit. When he’s hisssing he’s lying. Plus he’s priddirilax about ignoring dead bodies.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:06am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    More unintelligible verbage from our resident wombat.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:16am
    - Gabby
      
      Judicious application of a sponge to your flies would help with that staining. Poor example for the men. Bad show.
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:22am
      - starboard
        
        What the fuck are you talking about gibblet ? Are you Intellectually handicapped or something ? Was the umbilical chord wrapped around your neck at birth ?
        Did the doctor not only slap your arse , but beat the living shit out of you ?
        
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        September 22, 2016 12:14pm
- stephieboy
  
  LisaGinNZ , correction there . The latest terrorist attacks from members of refuge families who happen to be Muslim and also all importantly refugees from U S intervention in Afghanistan , Iraq wars etc .
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:13am
  - All_on_Red
    
    If the Bomber was a Refugee then why did he go back to Afghanistan several times?
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:34am
RF

Apparently there is a shit storm brewing between Labour and the Police. Nash has been bad mouthing one of the bosses and Angry has been sent a please explain.

From what I hear every Police Station has been advised and it’s really pissed off the boys in blue. Another cluster fuck by labour.
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September 22, 2016 8:43am
- Gabby
  
  Oh I’m sure they have insufficient evidence of wrongdoing. They’ll certainly not be sending an officer round.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:20am
- Paulus
  
  Nash should be very careful he sticks to the speed limit in Hawke’s Bay in future.
  
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  September 22, 2016 1:35pm
holysheet

Saw the useless racist national party token gay maoori lawyer chrissy f say on tv last night that he would ensure that none of the visitors to Wellington for the now defunct pissup on the taxpayer tomorrow, would be out of pocket. What he should of said was that once again the taxpayer will do so. It should be coming from these bludgers own pockets.
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September 22, 2016 8:47am
EAD

Thanks Jews for your “genoristy”:

“Donors from across the Jewish community have raised over £200,000 in four weeks to bring to Britain 100 refugee children who have a legal right to live here”.

Following such typical altruism in letting the 3rd world into our countries, surely Israel will come to the party and allow in just one, just one refugee………..or is it a case of “do as I say” rather than “do as I do”?

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/163577/jewish-refugee-initiative-reunites-children-their-families-britain
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September 22, 2016 8:51am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, Israel is a small state even smaller than the Waikato ( 25,000 square ks cf 22, 5000 ) with a population of 8 plus million .
  
  It is also an ethnically diverse nation of refugees including Palestinians . Sure it might take on some more but that tiny size ( unlike Canda , US , Australia etc and ourselves ) would be an important factor too.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:09am
  - EAD
    
    Stephieboy,
    
    Israel was an ethnically diverse area of the Ottoman empire until the Zionists took charge after WW II and their reign of terror against the British, then they began the long process of getting rid of the Arabs.
    
    It’s laughable how many apologists claim that Jews oppose the Islamic invasion as Europeans do when there are so many examples of them actively facilitating it. During the Muslim conquest of Spain, Jews in Spain actively welcomed and fought alongside the Muslim invaders because they hated the native Spanish so much, this is well documented.
    
    In fact, the reason the Muslims were able to take total control of so much of Spain so quickly is down to a large extent because the Jewish population was so willing to fight with them.
    
    The reason Jews were expelled from Spain is because of their massive role in the Muslim conquest of Spain, yet brainwashed idiots like yourself just portray it as another example of “anti-Semitism” for no reason.
    
    Jews have a track record of conspiring against the native populations of the countries they live in and actively encouraging and assisting invasions, how people can ignore the huge amount of evidence that supports that is staggering.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:17am
    - mikenmild
      
      This is a laughable rendering of a thousand years of Iberian history.
      But, alright, we get it – those Jews are dangerous fellows. What should we do about them? I can’t believe you have never given any thought to solving this problem.
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:20am
    - Kiwi Dave
      
      There certainly is a track record of native populations demonising Jews in their country, sometimes encouraged by leaders looking for scapegoats and loot.
      
      For an example of Jewish loyalty, Google ‘Judenzahlung’, the WW1 attempt by Germany to prove Jewish disloyalty, but which showed the opposite.
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:53am
redqueen

Hmm…is anyone else getting constant moderation this morning? All I did was say Jehovah … 😛
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September 22, 2016 8:56am
- Gabby
  
  You said it in vain.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:04am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Moderation for usin g that word is the modern equivalent of stoning by women disguised as men 😀
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:14am
cas

The Herald must be getting desperate. We are just about to conclude a free 5 week rural home delivery offer ( 6 days) and they rang up the other day with an offer of $6 a week to have a 6 day subscription for a year. I said no thanks it wasn’t worth it.
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September 22, 2016 9:09am
- All_on_Red
  
  Die Herald Die.
  Shabby little Tabloid
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:30am
Jack5

Some light stuff in the local body elections.

Crazy Tubby Hansen, the third candidate for Christchurch Mayor, hasn’t been featuring in the usual MSM publicity – policy statements etc.

In his mayoral campaign he is the candidate of his own Economic Euthenics Party.

He is also standing for the Canterbury District Health Board on behalf of another of his own parties: Electronic Schizophrenia.

Tubby is concerned about rays that he fears are bombarding Christchurch. Elections are his hobby. He has been standing at local and national elections for decades, and must spend most of his savings on the fees and has very little to spend on advertising.

It could be entertaining if Tubby ever got elected to some board or other. He’s getting on in years now, so the chances are getting slimmer.

I like eccentrics, and wish we had more, preferably much smarter than Tubby.
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September 22, 2016 9:11am
- mikenmild
  
  I wonder what his Kiwiblog nom de plume is.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:17am
  - Jack5
    
    Your secret’s safe with me, ~~Tubby~~, oops, Milky.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:30am
- Happychappy
  
  Surely nothing could be worse than John Minto
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:42am
  - Paulus
    
    I hear that he could well get a larger vote than expected.
    Anybody to vote for except the incompetent Dalziell.
    
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    September 22, 2016 1:37pm
Jack5

The Hooerald today celebrates academic prowess with this headline: “NZ universities ranked among world’s best, again.”

The report underneath shows they rank from 165th in the world to around 600th. That doesn’t include private and Maori tertiary institutions.

The whole list looks to be crap, however, ranking Oxford University as the world leader, above such technology power houses as Caltech, Stanford, and MIT. Oxford is mainly arts frivolity.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11714263
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September 22, 2016 9:28am
- Kimbo
  
  Yeah, but give credit where it is due, Jack5 – Oxford doesn’t turn out communist traitors like…Cambridge 😉
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:30am
  - Jack5
    
    But, Kimbo, Oxford has arseholes like Ntokozo Qwabe:
    
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3566362/Oxford-student-Rhodes-Fall-campaign-boasts-refused-tip-waitress-white-left-floods-tears.html
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:36am
    - Kimbo
      
      Now, now. A fair few All Blacks, Springboks and Wallabies were Rhodes Scholars.
      
      And, ahem..Bill Clinton (runs furiously for the door! 😉 )
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:57am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Have you forgotten the Oxford 5?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Wynn
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:37am
    - Kimbo
      
      Wasn’t even aware of them, Maggy – thanks for that. Doesn’t look like they accomplished much to match Burgess, McLean, Philby, Blunt or “the 5th man”.
      
      Probably made up by the Oxford Uni PR department so they didn’t fall too far behind their Cambridge rivals 😉
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:48am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Ha, ha, ha..
        didn’t read all my link, didja?
        
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        September 22, 2016 10:11am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Skimmed it, but didn’t see anything that jumped out at me as a major espionage achievement. Arthur Wynn worked for Tony Benn? Knowing his politics I thought he would have demanded a Soviet agent on his staff! 😉
        
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        September 22, 2016 10:41am
    - kowtow
      
      Tony Blair and David Cameron. ‘Nuf said.
      
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      September 22, 2016 10:13am
- redqueen
  
  There are three issues with the headline/topic.
  
  (1) Merely being ranked in a list that includes good universities means you can say we’re ‘ranked among’.
  (2) These surveys are almost always heavily qualitative (the actual intellectual input or output isn’t what gets you to the top).
  (3) We love to think we’re doing well and aren’t going to take a cold, hard, look at our performance (and I’m not being nasty about our unis, just that we aren’t trying to create world leaders most of the highly advanced fields – we don’t have the clusters for a lot of areas and concentrate on a smaller subset that we’re good at).
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:33am
- mikenmild
  
  Yes, Oxford is really struggling now. They’ve only had about ten Nobel prize winners this century.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:34am
  - redqueen
    
    Cambridge has done better in creating a technology cluster 😉
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:36am
  - Jack5
    
    Stanford: Thirty-one faculty have won the Nobel Prize since the university’s founding. Twenty Nobel laureates are currently members of the Stanford community. (This came from the Stanford web site.)
    
    MIT – 12 Nobel Prize winners; Harvard 21.
    
    Nobel Prizes began in 1901.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:39am
    - redqueen
      
      It’s not fair, though, the Americans have more money 😉 You have to equalise these sorts of rankings for social justice considerations and all that…
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:42am
    - rangitoto
      
      MIT has 85 not 12
      
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      September 22, 2016 11:09am
      - Jack5
        
        Whoops! Thank you Rangitoto.
        
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        September 22, 2016 1:36pm
    - Paulus
      
      Compare the number of Nobel Prizewinners between the Muslims and the Jews !
      No comparison.
      
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      September 22, 2016 1:39pm
- peterwn
  
  Kiwis have been involved with Oxford, MIT and Caltech. It was a Kiwi who promoted MIT from a minor institution to where it is today. Oxford may well owe its top ranking to Kiwi John Hood’s time as Vice Chancellor even though he did not go down well with the crusty old dons there. Some parts of NZ universities do shine brightly – for example several years ago Victoria University’s law school was ranked about 20th in the world.
  
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  September 22, 2016 11:21am
  - Jack5
    
    Was that when Aristotle Palmer was lecturing on the tablets God gave him?
    
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    September 22, 2016 1:37pm
Manolo

To keep the Messiah happy, his minions toe the PC line:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/21/death-to-your-oppression-bomb-suspects-written-rants-youtube-favorites-revealed.html

Pages from the bloody journal of the New York and New Jersey bombing suspect Ahmad Khan Rahami show he was a follower of Al Qaeda as well as the Islamic State terror group, yet federal investigators made no reference to ISIS in their complaint charging him on Tuesday.
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September 22, 2016 9:33am
wiseowl

Obarmer announces at UN that 50 nations are going to take 360,000 refugees, twice as many as last year.
Does that mean we have secretly signed up for an increase in our quota?
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September 22, 2016 9:36am
Ross12

Interesting piece by Pritchard on a UN report about the current state of economies around the world.
( Yes –I know what would the UN know, but it is worth a look )
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/21/un-fears-third-leg-of-the-global-financial-crisis-with-epic-debt/

Some of their suggested solutions/ideas will get a few “knickers in a twist”
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September 22, 2016 9:46am
Dave Mann

The idiot Sainsbury is wanking on about refugees on RadioLive… erkk
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September 22, 2016 9:47am
Manolo

“Leader of the Opposition Andrew Little has today appointed Mike Jaspers as Chief Press Secretary.

Mike Jaspers currently works for New Zealand Rugby in a senior communications role. He previously worked for Sir Michael Cullen as press secretary and before that worked in the Parliamentary Press Gallery for TVNZ.”

That won’t go down well with many left-wingers, faux-feminists and hand-wringers.

The other day the NZRU typified the old boys’ network, rape culture, evil corporate monster (re – stripper issue). Today, the evil corporate NZRU spin doctor is now the new Labour party spin doctor.
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September 22, 2016 9:51am
- holysheet
  
  And the fallout continues he did a really really really good job for the rfu
  If that’s the best he could come up with then angry will be in good hands (sarc)
  
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  September 22, 2016 10:44am
Stars And Stripes

Pensioner says fat family got him booted off tourist train
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=

I can sympathise with this guy as a couple of years back I was taking a domestic flight from New Plymouth to Auckland and there was only one spare seat on the plane left and it was next to me.
We were just about to leave when some big fat blob of a women got on and levered herself in the seat next to me.
Well that was one of the most uncomfortable 45 minutes of my life as I was squashed against the window with half of her in my seat and her horrible body odour just about making me spew.
The guy in the article got thrown off but believe me staying is equally as bad.
Time to banish blobs to the cargo hold.
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September 22, 2016 9:52am
- RF
  
  A few years ago I was flying Wellington to Napier in a smallish Air NZ aircraft to go home for a break. A female in the seat in front of me suddenly fully extended her seat right back so I had a close up of her grey hairs and could virtually see down the front of her dress. I was unable to fully use my tray and gentle reminders were ignored.
  
  Finally the hostess became involved and after a few arguments the passenger reluctantly said she would move her seat upright… Ever so Slightly.
  
  By this time I was really pissed off and as the seat moved I suddenly pushed hard against it. It shot forward and the contents of her tray including her drink finished up on her lap. What a mess.
  
  The hostess cracked up as it looked so funny.
  
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  September 22, 2016 10:58am
dime

From the front poage of the herald:

“The foster brother of a girl whose mother is a Kiwi allegedly told a cousin he had sex with her and she might be pregnant, an Australian court has heard.”

what the fuck did i just read? something written by

“the retarded niece of my neighbours deaf cousin?”
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September 22, 2016 9:55am
- Manolo
  
  A distinguished member of stephieboy’s school of literacy?
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:59am
wiseowl

No one has mentioned Hardtalk last night where that heroine Yazidi related the terrible circumstances relating to the Daesh capturing Yazidis murdering the guys and older women and selling the females because as she said they were considered ‘infidels’

What an appalling story.
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September 22, 2016 10:06am
- kowtow
  
  Straight out of the life and times of the Prophet of Peace and Tolerance , Mohammed .
  
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  September 22, 2016 10:15am
  - Griff
    
    It is after all in your bible.
    What an appalling story
    Your god is the one who commands it
    
    Numbers 31: 7-18 :
    
    They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
    
    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
    
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    September 22, 2016 11:23am
- stephieboy
  
  wiseowl , true but also Shia have suffered terribly under ISIL,
  
  On the 17th of March 2016, United States Secretary of State John Kerry declared that the violence initiated by ISIL against Shia muslims[9][10] and others in Iraq and Syria amounted to genocide. He said:
  
  “In my judgment, Daesh is responsible for genocide against groups in areas under its control including Yazidis, Christians and Shia Muslims” – John Kerry
  
  Kerry’s statement came the same week the US House voted 383-0 in favor of classifying the atrocities committed by ISIS as a genocide against certain ethnic and religious minorities in its territories.[9][10][11]
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Shias_by_ISIL
  
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  September 22, 2016 11:18am
Happychappy

I see Nicky i make a living out of stolen data had a wash and put his best clothes on yesterday to give his expert advise
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September 22, 2016 10:09am
- Gabby
  
  Of course he did. That chappy is by no means crappy.
  
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  September 22, 2016 12:07pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    I beg to differ. He’s one of the slimiest individuals unhung.
    
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    September 22, 2016 12:22pm
    - Gabby
      
      But his trousers are stainless.
      
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      September 22, 2016 1:12pm
dave_c_

Mmm – It would seem that Key’s vociferous endorsement of Klark as new UN leader, makes the New Zealand political system appear very much like the US 1 party dictatorship model (with two faces – Democrats and Republicans)

Since when did a national government endorse a leftist individual for such a left leaning organisation which is currently promoting Socialist (read communist) agendas ??
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September 22, 2016 10:12am
- kowtow
  
  All part of the cosy consensus of the permanent political elites who now rule us. Lots of other examples.
  
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  September 22, 2016 10:17am
- Gabby
  
  You funny guy – Clark leftist. Good one.
  
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  September 22, 2016 12:06pm
Manolo

Progressive Soros is coming up with the cash:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/21/surprise-that-will-end-trump-globalists-registering-8-million/

A new campaign, touted as the “October surprise that will end Trump”, is seeking to mobilise a “secret swing state” of more than 8 million mostly unregistered “global citizens” and “progressive” Americans living abroad to vote in the U.S. election.

The initiative was launched in London in the United Kingdom on Wednesday by ‘Avaaz’, a registered U.S. charity and one the world’s largest and most powerful activist groups linked to globalist billionaire George Soros.
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September 22, 2016 10:14am
mikenmild

I thought this was an odd story. Norway has a wolf population of 68, of which the government is proposing to allow 47 to be hunted.
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/outrage-as-norway-offers-licences-to-kill-two-thirds-of-its-endangered-wolf-population/
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September 22, 2016 10:37am
dime

oh good, nanny state national has introduced a new law:

“Owners of dangerous dogs will have to neuter them and provide at least one “dog-free” entrance to their house, the Government has announced.”

what happened? did a few burglars get bit?
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September 22, 2016 10:51am
- Gabby
  
  Posties / social workers / meter readers / neighbour’s kids..
  
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  September 22, 2016 12:05pm
  - dime
    
    rapists, pedos, theives.
    
    why do posties need an entrance to the house?
    
    what kidn of trash are you if you think social worker?
    
    clear path to the meter is fine.
    
    why do neighbours kids need an entrance to the house?!
    
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    September 22, 2016 12:51pm
    - Gabby
      
      What kind of retarded outcast are you if the neighbours don’t call?
      
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      September 22, 2016 1:10pm
  - dime
    
    how long til this law becomes “all dogs”?
    
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    September 22, 2016 12:51pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I’d just consider it bad manner if someone could not access my front door bell without being confronted by a dog. I’d always thought that was the law – that people had a right to knock on your door.
      
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      September 22, 2016 1:17pm
      - dime
        
        lmao people have a right to walk onto your land and knock on your door??? the fuck??
        
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        September 22, 2016 1:49pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Maybe someone else knows for sure, but I was always under the impression that was the case. As I said, I’d consider it rude to stop someone from approaching my front door by keeping a dog in the front yard.. I suppose if I were paranoid, I could always install a buzzer and intercom at the front gate.
        
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        September 22, 2016 1:52pm
    - Inandout
      
      Under sharia it will.
      
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      September 22, 2016 1:17pm
Manolo

Soon to be enforced in Mt Roskill. Isn’t modern Islam wonderful?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37430493

Women in Iran have been posting photos on social media of themselves riding bicycles, defying a fatwa forbidding them from cycling in public.

It had been understood women that could cycle as long as religious concerns were respected. But when asked recently, Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, said women were not allowed to cycle in public or in the presence of strangers.
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September 22, 2016 12:11pm
Manolo

The crook asks herself:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/21/clinton-asks-why-she-isnt-beating-trump-by-50-points/
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September 22, 2016 12:25pm
- Inandout
  
  She is now using mind control. How desperate can you get?
  
  “If you do know somebody who might be voting for Trump, stage an intervention,” Clinton pleaded with her remote audience. “Try to talk some sense into them. Lay out the facts. The facts are on our side, about what I’ve done versus what he’s done. Remember, friends don’t let friends vote for Trump.”
  
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  September 22, 2016 1:14pm
rangitoto

Apple patents the iBag

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/09/21/apples-hot-new-patent-is-paper-bag.html

Has terrible battery life
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September 22, 2016 1:03pm
Manolo

Communism is progress, isn’t it?
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/21/north-korea-accidentally-lets-world-access-its-internet-and-it-only-has-28-websites.html
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September 22, 2016 1:22pm
Stars And Stripes

A survey has found young Samoan New Zealanders feel the cultural practice of fa’alavelave – or donating money – is getting out of hand.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201817114/fa'alavelave,-financial-burden-or-family-

Yeah well join the club you pack of spongers because while you are giving away money to your relatives and church and god knows who else the rest of us are forced to donate to your welfare payments and the cost of putting you in a motel when you grizzle and whine to the media you have no where to live with your 10 kids.
Charity starts at home.
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September 22, 2016 1:27pm
- mikenmild
  
  I didn’t realise that all Samoan New Zealanders had 10 kids and were on welfare. I must ask those I know where all their kids are and why they pretend to have jobs.
  
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  September 22, 2016 1:49pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    You are a hard guy to please MM as I gave the Islanders the benefit of the doubt and said only 10 kids unlike those trampy mums who won’t name the dad I was talking about the other day who have 11 kids.
    
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    September 22, 2016 2:15pm
    - mikenmild
      
      We have a scale?
      Trampy mums – 11 kids
      Samoans – 10 kids
      ? – 9 kids
      ? – 8 kids
      Stars And Stripes – 0 kids (sterile?)
      
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      September 22, 2016 2:18pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        Refugees- 9 kids
        Assorted Beneficiaries – 8 kids
        Educated Sensible Parents( Including S&S) – What they can afford.
        
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        September 22, 2016 2:25pm
      - Griff
        
        Living in mommy’s basement is well know to be unattractive to potential partners and puts a damper on hanky panky mike.
        
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        September 22, 2016 2:26pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  You have made it quite plain on many occasions Griff that you don’t like me or my posts so feel free to just skip over them and not read them and that’s fine with me as you were not the target audience anyway.
  
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  September 22, 2016 2:33pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Meow.
    
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    September 22, 2016 2:39pm
  - Griff
    
    But stars it is far more fun to point out your inconsistency and stupidity.
    This is an open forum .
    If you need a safe space.
    You could go over to True Blue NZ no one there will make fun of you.
    
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    September 22, 2016 2:39pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  “Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger’s, is a developmental disorder characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests”.
  
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  September 22, 2016 2:45pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Might be time to run S&S’s traits through the psychopathy checklist.
    
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    September 22, 2016 3:15pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Don’t bother MM because if your diagnosis is correct then sooner or later I will be the lead story on the 6pm news and you can sit back satisfied with yourself.
      
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      September 22, 2016 3:20pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Maybe a few simple screening questions first:
        1) What kinds of animals did you torture as a child?
        2) At what age do you first remember feeling an intense hatred for your mother?
        3) Did you always feel you were different from other boys?
        4) What went wrong with your first sexual experience?
        5) Has setting fires always been an attraction?
        
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        September 22, 2016 3:28pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  This is a good example of why I read your posts MM.
  You are actually witty when you are on form.
  
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  September 22, 2016 3:34pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Stars and Stripes:
    
    I’m sure Mikenmild appreciates your support as he marches from 25,056 comments to 30,000 comments in record time!
    
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    September 22, 2016 4:32pm
    - dad4justice
      
      mm is like a spreading fungus.
      
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      September 22, 2016 5:07pm
      - stigie
        
        Milky is dedicated to the services of a public servant…….which is..?
        
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        September 22, 2016 5:24pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        Saying that Mikenmild is dedicated to the services of a public servant makes about as much sense as saying that Penny Bright is dedicated to the services of a mayoral candidate! It begs the question: what specific benefits do the public get from those services? Well, at least in Mikenmild’s case, you could argue that when he’s commenting here he’s not wrapping someone up in red-tape in the real world 🙂
        
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        September 22, 2016 5:38pm
      - stigie
        
        At least ole Milky doesn’t get too worked up from what i have seen Nostra but i stand to be corrected of course !~
        
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        September 22, 2016 5:47pm
Sideoiler

Glad I’m not on face book
http://knuckledraggin.com/2016/09/fb-is-better-than-the-circus-sometimes/
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September 22, 2016 1:36pm
Ross12

I like this form of diplomacy.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/712818/F-you-EU-Philippines-president-blasts-Brussels-over-anti-crime-killings
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September 22, 2016 1:53pm
Manolo

The crook Clinton pours petrol on the fire:
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/hillary-helps-set-charlotte-fire/

In a direct tweet from the Democratic presidential nominee herself — marked by an “-H” — Clinton tweeted at 1:35 p.m. on Tuesday, “Another unarmed Black man was shot in a police incident. This should be intolerable. We have so much work to do.”
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September 22, 2016 3:11pm
Manolo

He is a complete ass. However, he didn’t go on to say his beloved Muslims are responsible for the terror.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801018/Terror-attacks-parcel-living-big-city-claims-London-mayor-Sadiq-Khan.html#comments

The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has said that living with terror attacks – like the one that hit New York at the weekend – is ‘part and parcel of living in a big city’.
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September 22, 2016 3:21pm
Kimbo

…and Kane Williamson continues the good old New Zealand cricket test captain’s tradition – Bevan Congdon, Glenn Turner (he once lost 5 in a row in Pakistan/India!), Brendan McCullum – of losing the loss so we will be chasing leather in the first test in India.

Really easy to know what to do in the sub-Continent – bat. Like the quip of John Wright when he was asked by the press before a test over there when he thought the wicket would take spin. “I felt like saying, ‘in the fifth over of the game when the spinners come on’, but thought I should sound positive and said, ‘near the end of the third day'”.
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September 22, 2016 3:55pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  India will score 630 for 4 declared and NZ will be 25 for 3 by the end of the second day.
  
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  September 22, 2016 4:04pm
  - Kimbo
    
    42-1 at the end of the eleventh over, and ominously according to cricinfo:
    
    Santner to Rahul, OUT, superb catch from Watling! A little quicker through the air, a little puff of dust off the pitch, the ball jerks away – it’s allowed to do so because Rahul was so far back in his crease, playing for the trajectory. He prods at it, the edge is taken and umpire Rod Tucker says off you go
    KL Rahul c †Watling b Santner 32 (39b 4×4 1×6) SR: 82.05
    
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    September 22, 2016 4:54pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Whoops I got that a bit wrong.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:46pm
Manolo

The underclasses revolt and riot:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/21/chaos_in_charlotte_tear_gas_cnn_reporter_tackled_live_on_air_two_people_shot.html

At least two people have been shot, and one person killed in riots in downtown Charlotte when protests over the police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott yesterday spiraled out of control.
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September 22, 2016 4:28pm
- starboard
  
  Let me guess..he was a black criminal committing an offence….nothing to see here..move on..no ones interested.
  
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  September 22, 2016 5:03pm
- Icarus
  
  The gloves need to come off in dealing with these violent savage beasts. They should be shot on sight to protect peoples lives and property. They have already shown their true colours by the mass planned murder of “crackers and cops”
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:27pm
Jack5

Anyone been following the exchanges between Winston Peters and Treaty Minister Finlayson?

Is Finlayson really setting up local bodies so they must have reserve race-based seats on councils? That is, making it a duty rather than a choice?

Footnote: Just heard on radio that the bill allegedly will force Taranaki councils to provide seats for Maori.
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September 22, 2016 5:25pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  If that’s the case NZ First just jumped up to 15%. What the Hell are you playing at Finlayson?
  
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  September 22, 2016 5:30pm
  - starboard
    
    Finlayson still giving NZ the finger whist he gives NZ away to murri. What irks me is that he is only a list MP, he came in the back door ( excuse the pun ) and is no 2 in the house . Sickening. How long are Kiwi’s going to put up with this.
    
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    September 22, 2016 5:41pm
- dad4justice
  
  Will the compulsory maori councillors be supplied with free underwear and KFC?
  
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  September 22, 2016 5:57pm
  - starboard
    
    IWI…I want it..and looks like they gona get it.
    
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    September 22, 2016 6:07pm
    - dad4justice
      
      The iwi way is hardly the kiwi way eh bro!
      
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      September 22, 2016 6:09pm
- Gabby
  
  Not to mention handing over a lump of land to the nice iwi that doesn’t live there.
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:02pm
  - dad4justice
    
    What has maori done for the good of New Zealand?
    
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    September 22, 2016 6:03pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Ungrateful bastards. Why did they ask the Europeans to colonise them in the first place?
      
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      September 22, 2016 6:19pm
      - starboard
        
        Because if they hadn’t, they would all be dead..wars and eating each other.
        True stoneagers and nothing much has changed, except their greed and sense of entitlement.
        
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        September 22, 2016 6:36pm
      - dad4justice
        
        How come our parasitic local tribe pay no tax when the savages killed all the moas?
        
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        September 22, 2016 6:41pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Well D4J, if we all got a tax break because our ancestors exterminated indigenous species, then no one would pay tax at all.
        Are you really that stupid, or is it an elaborate act?
        
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        September 22, 2016 7:05pm
      - Jack5
        
        Milky’s 6.19 post included:
        
        …Why did they ask the Europeans to colonise them …
        
        I’ll be damned. I didn’t realise the world had them colonscopy things in the 1840s.
        
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        September 22, 2016 11:52pm
- Manolo
  
  National’s surrendering to the racist MaorinParty is now complete.
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:27pm
- wiseowl
  
  Thought this was coming as they used HB as a trial.
  It is an outrage and the country should be up in arms.
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:27pm
  - dad4justice
    
    The white folk of this country should say enough is fucking enough and do something about it. National are RACIST scum.
    
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    September 22, 2016 6:29pm
- Sideoiler
  
  Saw it on the news tonight.
  There goes my vote John you have done your chips.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:17pm
Reid

Nobody could ever replace the incredible Gary Moore, but Joe Bonamassa has taken one of his best songs and done it serious justice. Joe Bonamassa was a big fan of Gary Moore and said his music was like a storm descending on your head. Now as the new King of the Blues since BB King’s passing, Joe is at the top of his game. After 25 years of hard work he is now the top Blues Guitarist and the number one stage entertainer anywhere. Plus he’s got the very best backup singers in the business and an incredible band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dghT8X2kD30
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September 22, 2016 5:49pm
- Reid
  
  (((Soros))) is a lovely example of how (((they))) operate ain’t he.
  
  I mean who can’t see BLM is an activist organisation designed to whip up hatred in the US from the millions of poor, angry, well-armed inner-city blacks, just whipping them up till they explode.
  
  I mean who is dumb enough not to see that that is precisely why BLM exists.
  
  And here we have (((Soros))) funding it and organising it.
  
  And being permitted to by the (((people))) who control the FBI.
  
  Anyone here thinks BLM is about human wights? Of course not.
  
  So what does that say about all the other “human wights” organisations (((Soros))) funds?
  
  Nothing, right?
  
  Because (((he’s))) just pwotecting the Ukwainians from the big bad Wussians, isn’t (((he)))?
  
  Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
  
  It’s funny you know, that if you’re a two legs good, four legs bad thinker, then not only do you always get whose the two legs and whose the four legs parties all mixed up, you also don’t even apply your one dimensional thinking policy in one of the few instances when it should be applied.
  
  I forgive you though, I know you’re still struggling through the sea of anti-semitic hysteria surging through your mind, as a result of my use of the (((…))) so it must be terribly difficult for you to apply your usual level of analysis, trite as it is.
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:40pm
  - Icarus
    
    BLM are not “activists” they are a radical anti white hate/terrorist group who have called for the killing of white people and police since they formed. They have now started the slaughter.
    
    These disgusting beasts should be controlled by any means necessary.
    
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    September 22, 2016 6:44pm
V

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Q3a4EnafI
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September 22, 2016 6:13pm
EAD

Ain’t (((George Soros))) a lovely guy!

http://yournewswire.com/soros-launches-putin-trump-fake-conspiracy-website/

If he isn’t spending his ill gotten gains flooding Christian countries with Africans and Muslims, he is sticking his big nose in affairs of state and trying to get the hildebeast “elected” by all sorts of underhand methods.
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September 22, 2016 6:17pm
- mikenmild
  
  I hope all you Kiwibloggers realise the (((EAD))) is an Israeli agent provocateur. No modern national socialist would be so obvious. (((EAD)))’s mission is to whip up a bit of revulsion at his caricature of an anti-Semite, and so garner a bit more sympathy for Israel.
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:23pm
  - Manolo
    
    I knew it all along. A big thank you, mikenmild.
    
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    September 22, 2016 6:25pm
    - mikenmild
      
      You’re most welcome. Now that he has been outed, perhaps EAD will pretend to be a white nationalist to promote multiculturalism, or perhaps a crazy, gold-bugging Austrian to promote Keynesian economics.
      
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      September 22, 2016 6:33pm
  - EAD
    
    Very funny MM – no I’m not part of the JDF.
    
    I just invite readers to draw their own conclusions from the articles I post.
    
    It can be pretty hard to deprogramme onesself from a lifetime of ~~brainwashing~~ “news” by the (((MSM))) but once someone sees the truth, they can’t unsee it and it leaves one with little choice but to point out the chutzpah of the perpetrators of what is often hidden in plain sight of the Pavlovian Dog Sheple.
    
    “None are so blind as those who will not see
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:01pm
- wiseowl
  
  Where does Soros live?
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:30pm
stephieboy

Breaking news ,

Filipino, Leila de Lima new UN Secretary-General
https://theguard1an.com/breaking-leila-de-lima-elected-as-th
e-new-un-secretary-general/

Sorry Helen better luck another time .

I wonder if the new Secretary General will spearhead an investigation into her President’s Death Squads ?

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11713090
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September 22, 2016 6:25pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Total joke selection.
  Nobody who has been involved in the law profession in the Philippines is clean because if you actually tried to be you could not function in your job.
  Besides sounds like she has been too busy screwing her married lover and laundering some drug money on the side.
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:49pm
  - Icarus
    
    She is corrupt, evil and manipulative. but a much better choice than the Klarken.
    
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    September 22, 2016 6:52pm
    - dad4justice
      
      Klarkula is evil , a corrupt dyke , manipulative and her husband stuffed up her chances. The UN has standards even though NZ has none. Rot in hell Miss Klark.
      
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      September 22, 2016 6:55pm
      - starboard
        
        Amen to that Dad.
        
        ” In your face Klarkula..IN YOUR FACE !!!! ”
        
        Pure evil.
        
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        September 22, 2016 7:06pm
- Reid
  
  Sorry Helen better luck another time .
  
  She is so bad stephie, I’d far rather have you in that job than her. That’s how bad she is.
  
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  September 22, 2016 6:52pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Did you suffer severe PTSD under her watch ?
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:37pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Like Icarus did you suffer severe PTSD or was LBO during her regime ?
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:40pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Where do you get your news?
  
  The election for Secretary General is in October.
  
  There is no Filipino candidate.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:10pm
  - Icarus
    
    They are demanding a candidate based on gender rather than ability.
    
    They are all awful.
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:14pm
- pentwig
  
  FFS daffy
  The only breaking news is that you constantly reveal yourself as a total fuckwit.
  Keep it up.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:30pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @stephieboy
  
  Was there some reason you posted this hoax?
  
  If there was, could you let us all into your little joke?
  
  Otherwise, I’m forced to think that you think you’ve gone to a genuine news site.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:36pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Haven’t you got anything better to do than make up news you complete fuckwit?
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:53pm
Icarus

I hope her decisions are better than her dress sense. Or is she a Bat ?
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September 22, 2016 6:49pm
Icarus

Its hilarious how they keep repeating the same nonsense again and again. They have just launched anther “meltdown” campaign recently through an uncritical agenda driven media.

“
Myth of Arctic meltdown: Stunning satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker and covers 1.7million square kilometres MORE than 2 years ago…despite Al Gore’s prediction it would be ICE-FREE by now ”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#ixzz4KxuaJ3mJ
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September 22, 2016 6:57pm
- Griff
  
  Parrot are you confused or something
  its 2016 matey not 2014….
  Compare this year with 2014
  http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
  
  Did nursey tie you down to the bed for a couple of days again ?
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:04pm
  - Icarus
    
    Oh so they were wrong every time before but THIS TIME its really really really going to happen ?
    
    don’t do drugs kids
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:22pm
    - Griff
      
      Slowly so you understand
      The screen in front of you is not a lolly .
      licking it will make your tongue hurt and smear spittle all over it .
      Posting shit from two years ago and ignoring what is happening in the world shows you are a gibbering nut .
      Your views on science dont count.
      The world is ignoring gibbering nutters and getting on with reducing carbon emissions .
      
      21 September 2016 – United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon declared today that more than 55 countries have formally joined the Paris Agreement on climate change signed by world leaders this past April, officially crossing one of the two thresholds required to bring into force the landmark pact that seeks to put the world on a path towards low-carbon growth and a more sustainable future.
      
      “I am confident that, by the time I leave office, the Paris Agreement will have entered into force,” the UN chief said in remarks following a high-level event on the Agreement’s entry into force at UN Headquarters in New York this morning. “This will be a major achievement for multilateralism.”
      
      At the meeting, 31 additional countries deposited their instruments of ratification for the Agreement, bringing the total to 60 countries that together represent more than 47.5 per cent of global greenhouse gas emissions.
      
      http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=54997#.V-OIHSQUnIU
      
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      September 22, 2016 7:31pm
      - Icarus
        
        Griff you were so busy cut and pasting your standard troll that you clean forgot the question.
        
        Were they wrong every other time, but have finally got it right in 2016 ?
        
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        September 22, 2016 7:42pm
      - Griff
        
        Moving on from being a screen licker to drooling on your mouse and key board kea/ Icarus / kriss x .
        You will get an electric shock if you are not really careful.
        
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        September 22, 2016 7:52pm
      - Icarus
        
        I see the Shrooms have kicked in again Guff. Hash cookies and magic mushrooms on toast are not helping your coherence.
        
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        September 22, 2016 8:03pm
- mikenmild
  
  Luckily Al Gore isn’t a climate scientist then.
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:07pm
  - nasska
    
    Just a mouth.
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:08pm
  - Icarus
    
    No milky he is not. So does that mean global warming theory is wrong ?
    
    Because that is the logical conclusion from your statement. What else could you have meant.
    
    I think man went to the moon. But hey, I am not an astronaut, so I guess we did not go to the moon and have stayed on the flat earth.
    
    You really are thick.
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:24pm
- mikenmild
  
  Sorry, I’m not supposed to feed the troll…
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:07pm
  - Icarus
    
    Trolls make unpopular comments about things they can not substantiate with reasons. They also resort to personal attacks.
    
    I think your views are unpopular, you have no argument and you resort to personal attacks.
    
    Now run along and catch some Pokemon, or are you grounded again for punching your sister ?
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:29pm
Griff

New law scraps priority to place abused kids with relatives

A new law outlined today will axe a longstanding provision that gives priority to placing abused children with foster parents from the same extended family or tribe.

Social Development Minister Anne Tolley said the law would require that any child who is removed from its family and cannot be returned to immediate family “must be placed with a safe, stable and loving family at the earliest opportunity”.

The change removes a 27-year-old provision that gave priority to placing a child with “a person who is a member of the child’s or young person’s hapu or iwi (with preference being given to hapu members), or, if that is not possible, who has the same tribal, racial, ethnic, or cultural background as the child”.

Instead, the first principle in the new arrangements for children removed from their parents is that “decisions should be centred around the child or young person’s best interests and understanding the views and needs of the child”.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11714721

This is good news.
It used to be that they would take kids of the mother and place them in the same dysfunctional hapu that screwed the mother up to start with so continuing the cycle of generational abuse
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September 22, 2016 6:58pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  This whanau-first policy was championed by Tariana Turia. From my point of view it appears that anyone with any common sense was too afraid to point out the obvious flaw in her philosophy.
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:08pm
- mikenmild
  
  Probably a good move, although if a child can be placed safely with whanau then that’s all good. We should always place the best interests of the child first though.
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:09pm
  - dad4justice
    
    NZ has one of the highest child abuse records in the world mm that’s hardly in the child’s best interests. It’s the iwi way bro. What a disgrace!
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:13pm
    - Jack5
      
      D4J: The claim that “NZ has one of the highest child abuse records in the world” is a lie that’s been repeated so often even cynics believe it.
      
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      September 22, 2016 11:55pm
  - Icarus
    
    Maggy said “anyone with any common sense” milky.
    
    That was not an open invitation for dimwits to trot out their PC platitudes in a vulgar and contrived display of virtue signalling.
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:33pm
starboard

you mean family mm, we all still speak english ’round ‘ere.

You still have to ask the question though..why do the stoneagers still maim and kill their children in unprecedented numbers ?
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September 22, 2016 7:14pm
- dad4justice
  
  Did a white mother fucker kill the Kahui Twins mm?
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:18pm
  - stigie
    
    No one is disagreeing with you Dad !~
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:21pm
  - starboard
    
    or Lily Bing
    
    or Nia Glassie
    
    or ..endless list…
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:22pm
- Icarus
  
  Colonial post traumatic stress disorder ?
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:34pm
dad4justice

And these murdering savages want to tell me I can’t smoke . Go get fucked.
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September 22, 2016 7:25pm
- mikenmild
  
  I think you should smoke more – it might calm you down. Have you tired smoking cannabis, that might be very effective?
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:30pm
  - nasska
    
    A bit of a stone, free love & flower power would do Dad a world of good! 🙂
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:34pm
    - stigie
      
      Or an ecosexual experience !~
      
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      September 22, 2016 7:38pm
      - nasska
        
        He has one of those when he goes outside & wanks over the flower garden stigie. 🙂
        
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        September 22, 2016 7:42pm
      - stigie
        
        You can get off just rolling in the dirt Nasska, Dad could like that as well.
        
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        September 22, 2016 7:46pm
  - dad4justice
    
    mm child abuse is rising in the ranks of the iwi as Nutional feed the problem by handing over $billions$ to the out of control savages. Don’t be a dope and open your fucking eyes creep!
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:35pm
- stigie
  
  Smoke kills their whanau Dad, they haven’t got great lungs like us white mother fuckers..?
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:32pm
- Icarus
  
  Dad, milky just invited you to commit a crime. He should probably be reported 🙂
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:39pm
  - dad4justice
    
    milky lives with his mother at the Bates Motel. That should be reported.
    
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    September 22, 2016 7:40pm
Griff

D4j
I strongly suggest you look into this .
http://www.vapo.co.nz/
You can save money and reduce the effects of cigarettes on your health at the same time .
You dont need to stop smoking you just change the way you get your fix .
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September 22, 2016 7:35pm
- Griff
  
  From their site an illustration the law in both country’s is an arse
  
  AUSTRALIA & NZ E-LIQUID
  
  VAPO Australia is a separate company to VAPO New Zealand. We provide nicotine e-liquid legally to both New Zealand and Australian customers. When Australian customers order nicotine e-liquid the e-liquid is delivered from New Zealand to Australia tracked within 5 working days, when New Zealand customers order nicotine e-liquid the e-liquid is sent from Australia to New Zealand tracked within 3 working days.
  
  Both New Zealand and Australia have similar laws that allow the importation of nicotine e-liquid but not the domestic sale of nicotine e-liquid. Using our system NZ and AU vapers can enjoy fast shipping times while keeping the cost low for high quality nicotine e-liquid.
  
  The product is made here in New Zealand then exported to Australia so they can sell it back to New Zealand .
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:44pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Hey gripp is “e-liquid”what you put in your bong before you pull a puff on the wild weed?
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:06pm
    - Griff
      
      No d4j it is a substitute for the nicotine that you presently get from smoking cigarettes.
      Costs about 3 bucks for the equivalent of a packet so saves lots
      and has no tar etc so is far better for you.
      I am actually trying to be nice D4j .
      Quite a few smokers on here and among my friends have switched to it and they all recon it is heaps better in every way .
      
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      September 22, 2016 8:13pm
- Icarus
  
  Moving on from dodgy weather forecasts to advice on drugs now Griff ? ?
  
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  September 22, 2016 7:46pm
Griff

Yip troll
My drug advise to you is get nursy to up the dose to four of those little blue ones every time you come out of a drug induced stupor
It will not help your gibbering.
Enough Valium will stop you licking the screen and posting your stupidity all over this blog .
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September 22, 2016 8:02pm
- Icarus
  
  Well to be fair I have dumbed down my comments in the optimistic hope you might be able to formulate a counter point and elevate yourself above personal attacks.
  
  So far the tactic has failed and all you produce are the same banal remarks and a bunch of cut and paste from an alarmist site that lies about the weather.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:07pm
  - dad4justice
    
    gripp is resident drug addict is he really phul ure?
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:09pm
    - stigie
      
      Different writing styles Dad and of course the punctuation is not fucked up…eh…?
      
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      September 22, 2016 8:21pm
      - Icarus
        
        I dunno stigie
        
        “Slowly so you understand
        The screen in front of you is not a lolly .
        licking it will make your tongue hurt and smear spittle all over it .
        Posting shit from two years ago and ignoring what is happening in the world shows you are a gibbering nut .
        Your views on science dont count.
        The world is ignoring gibbering nutters and getting on with reducing carbon emissions .”
        
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        September 22, 2016 8:27pm
nasska

They said a flower couldn’t signify love, yet the rose managed it.
They said a plant couldn’t survive without water, yet the cactus managed it.
They say vegetables can’t read jokes but I bet the religioconservatives still vote this one down. 🙂
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September 22, 2016 8:40pm
stigie

Icarus:- If you go back over the archives of Kiwiblog and find some of Phil Ure’s handy work, you will say fuck this, this is truely doing my head in with all the dots and dashes and god knows what else he could throw in there..?
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September 22, 2016 8:40pm
- Icarus
  
  Griff’s care giver popped the dot and dash button off his keyboard to stop him doing it .
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:45pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Classic Icarus I feel for that poor caregiver haha.
    
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    September 22, 2016 8:51pm
- Griff
  
  Her head is already done in stigie .
  It is actually less sane than phill was .
  Which is a worry but I am sure nursey can cope .
  
  Kea/Icarus/ kriss x when you copy me it shows three things .
  
  I get to you. you think because such things hurt you they will hurt me .
  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
  You lack the ability to come up with anything original .
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:55pm
Icarus

“I get to you you thing because such things hurt you they will hurt me .”

LOL 🙂 Keep em coming….

********DON’T DO DRUGS KIDS***********
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September 22, 2016 8:56pm
- dad4justice
  
  hey gripp you you you on that thing thing again again ?
  my head hurts.
  
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  September 22, 2016 8:58pm
  - Icarus
    
    Hey dad what it said did did potato the CO2 cat ate from doing more it. From to them encephalitis cow ?
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:02pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I wish you blokes would remember that old ladies don’t have great bladder control when they are rolling on the floor laughing…..
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:03pm
    - Griff
      
      Dear dear maggy .
      Piss your panty’s did you .
      Poor old dear best you look at that add for the incontinence ones.
      
      Hows it fell to be such a fringe that the entire worlds governments have a totally different idea about climate science than you?
      55 countries governments have signed up to reduce co2 by 50 percent because they think it is an issue .
      I guess they dont read those conspiracy whack blogs you spend time soaking in. Maybe governments listen to actual scientist not weirdos and anonymous nutters .
      Still we have anti vaxes and other fools as well… takes all sorts ….EH
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:32pm
starboard

2100..mm’s tucked up in bed with his rubber bum and oil plus photo of klarkula.
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September 22, 2016 9:00pm
- dad4justice
  
  And Norma is doing H1 while Hulun Klarkula is barrelling poor Peter for fucking up her UN job.
  
  Life is sweet:-)
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:16pm
- mikenmild
  
  I’m still waiting for you to explain this rubber bum and oil trick you are into.
  
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  September 22, 2016 9:18pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Ask Peter or H1 silly sod mm.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:19pm
  - starboard
    
    dont deny it mm..you and that other deviant scottchris indulge yourselfs nightly.
    
    Its sad really..and quite revolting. Perverts.
    
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    September 22, 2016 9:21pm
    - mikenmild
      
      You seem to be, um, on top of all the details…
      
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      September 22, 2016 9:27pm
      - stigie
        
        The right oil helps i believe Milky !~
        
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        September 22, 2016 9:37pm
nasska

It’s just that they do things ‘differently’ in Christchurch.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3i5o66txr0x68zr/Glory%20Hole%202.jpg?dl=0
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September 22, 2016 9:42pm
- stigie
  
  Yep, that’s right Nasska, it’s down in the south west corner of Hagley Park, very popular i believe !~
  
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