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Griff

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Hottest August on record – vies with July for hottest month ever
According to GISS NASA, the average global surface temperature anomaly for August was 0.98 °C, which is 0.16 °C higher than the previous hottest August in 2014.

The average for the eight months to the end of August is 1.05 °C, which is 0.25 °C higher than any previous January to August period. The previous highest was last year, which with the latest data had an anomaly of 0.8 °C.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/
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September 13, 2016 8:03am
- burt
  
  Every month for the last 10 years has been the hottest [insert_month_name_here].
  
  Solar cycles Griff, I know understanding solar cycles, cosmic rays, cloud formation, charged atmospheric particles and magnetic flux from sun spots is not as easily understood as CO2 concentration – but the simple might be the only thing you can understand and grasp I guess.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:44am
- cmm
  
  According to NASA there’s climate change happening on Mars too.
  
  Damn SUV drivers!
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:46am
  - burt
    
    Climate has never been and never will be static as long as we have a giant variable energy source controlling the temperatures here. But try keeping the attention of a group of people discussing science when all you need is 1 simple measure to explain everything eh Griff.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:51am
    - Griff
      
      Actually burt it is you who think there is one simple measure to explain every thing.
      https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_chapter_02.pdf
      This approach is called a straw man argument. Make up some bullshit and attack it rather than engaging with the other persons debate .
      
      It the sun its cosmic rays etc etc etc A.K.A anything but co2.
      The measured warming since 1950 is the effect of co2.
      This has been known for decades .
      External forcing on our climate are in decline. The cooling of the stratosphere is predicted by and a facet of only greenhouse induced warming .
      By the way it is not me you are arguing against eh burt
      It is the scientific community.
      That of course puts you alongside the flat earth and creation by god in 6 days nutters .
      
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      September 13, 2016 9:08am
      - Scott
        
        I don’t think Burt is a 6 day creationist. But he doesn’t believe in man made global warming. I am a 6 day creationist and I don’t believe in man made global warming either.
        It’s not actually a religious question. Even by your own facts the earth is a fraction warmer than it was. But it’s still not as warm as it was during the mediaeval warm period when Greenland was actually green. The world didn’t end then and it won’t end now.
        So let’s not turn what is at most a cyclical rise in the global temperature into more than it is.
        
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        September 13, 2016 12:44pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Relax. There will be no catastrophic climate change. God said so:
        http://www.juancole.com/2010/11/energy-committee-chairman-candidate-says-god-promised-no-more-catastrophic-climate-change-after-noah.html
        
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        September 13, 2016 12:51pm
      - burt
        
        Griff
        
        I listed 5 things other than CO2 that are also factors in climate. So that’s 6 things I noted.
        
        You said I have just one thing and then you go back to CO2 as the only thing that matters. Then you call me a flat earth type.
        
        You’re not very good at this counting and thinking thing are you – yet you persist to lecture us that you have a better understanding than any of us.
        
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        September 13, 2016 1:24pm
      - Griff
        
        Burt I linked to the list of forcing by the ipcc
        you are tilting at windmills mate .
        
        “solar cycles, cosmic rays, cloud formation, charged atmospheric particles and magnetic flux from sun spots “
        
        Guess how many of these things are in fact the same?
        Solar cycles charged atmospheric particles and sunspots are linked .Sun spot activity is actuality at a low not seen for century’s this would cool the planet slightly if the effect was not overwhelmed by our green house gas emissions ….. Gibbering about it is a fail mate
        Cloud formation .
        Is the iris theory long ago discarded http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Richard_S._Lindzen
        another fail.
        Cosmic rays have little or no effect on climate. There is no evidence that the background radiation in our solar system has changed .
        
        What part of the green house effect dont you understand Burt ?
        
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        September 13, 2016 1:42pm
      - burt
        
        Griff
        
        Just because the IPCC models didn’t know how to factor cloud formation changes caused by changes in solar radiation and therefore stipulate cloud formation changes are neutral to climate – that isn’t the same as knowing it is neutral.
        
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        September 13, 2016 1:45pm
      - burt
        
        I understand greenhouse effect, I’m just not so thick and vulnerable to accepting that it’s the only significant factor. Explain past changes, warmer times hundreds of years ago Griff ?
        
        How do you explain warmer times pre the industrial revolution ?
        
        If the IPCC models are valid they will be able to do this – they can’t can they ?
        
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        September 13, 2016 1:47pm
      - Griff
        
        The IPCC has no climate models burt so your statement is pure nonsense.
        The IPCC does no research and pays nobody besides a very small number of staff .
        
        Withering about an unknown does not prove it exists my friend.
        Its magic sky pixies thinking .
        The green house effect does exist and has been measured and qualified. The level of co2 in the atmosphere has increased by 40% and will continue to increase as long as we continue to burn fossil fuels and dump the by products into the atmosphere. As well as co2 the level of methane another green house gas is increasing due to our actions*. This will result in the planet warming. As we know the earth has not seen warmer for at lest fourteen hundred years and the speed of warming we now have is probably unprecedented in many thousands I dont know what you are going on about.
        
        *http://phys.org/news/2016-05-methane-carbon-dioxide.html
        
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        September 13, 2016 2:02pm
- jonar
  
  Griff, KBers know more about Climate Change than you or those pathetic Climate Scientists who have doctorates, etc in the subject.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:54am
  - burt
    
    jonar
    
    Hide the decline. Tax can fix this, all you need to know is that nothing but CO2 concentrations need to be understood.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:56am
- JIV
  
  Is Climate “Science” the only discipline that covers less history the longer it goes on. Ice core graphs showed 10,000 years of climate, inconveniently they also show the Minoan, Roman and Medieval warm periods. The hockey stick graph showed the last 1000 years, but only Bill Nye still trots that out. Now you’re only interested in the last 100-120 years? Why are the scientists studies getting shorter and shorter?
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:56am
  - burt
    
    JIV
    
    Griff still believes in the hockey stick. He’ll post links and argue that you don’t understand CO2 concentrations as well as he does too.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:58am
  - kowtow
    
    “Why are the scientists studies getting shorter and shorter?”
    
    Same reason that PhDs are a dime a dozen these days, funding. If it weren’t for all that taxpayer money going into the academic industry there wouldn’t be so many PhDs chasing even more tax dollars , pumping out even more meaningless papers. Vicious circles. Stop the funding and man made climate change would go away. Same with “refugee” boats, stop picking em up and they won’t come. Abbott proved that. Empirically.
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:10am
    - JIV
      
      The “Science” behind the whole scare is the fact the earth has always warmed and cooled but the warming since the Industrial Revolution has been more dramatic than ever before. If they only look at data for the last 100 years how can they continue to prove this theory. And if they only show graphs that start after the 1970’s cooling, when there was a lower baseline, then people are going to start to get suspicious. Apart from the truly gullible!!
      
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      September 13, 2016 9:21am
- AgentBallSack
  
  That’s another General Debate fucked for the day. I’ll be back after you have bonged yourself into a dribbling mess.
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:29am
  - Griff
    
    I love that ball sack.
    You are ignoring the gibbering of the nutters above instead think I am wreaking GD all by myself.
    The problem my friend is nutters who post totally stupid rubbish because the reality of what we are doing to this planets biosphere frightens them so much.
    We have Don Burt quixote proudly fighting a construct of his own imagination in the only forcing is co2 .
    And JIV bleating some unintelligible garbage that seems to be worshiping a schematic diagram from an unknown source probably Lamb from the sixties as the final word of proxy temperature reconstructions.
    
    Nutters are so funny as they spin around gibbering nonsense.
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:06am
    - JIV
      
      Sorry Griff, I should have used references from your IPCC bible. In the 1990 IPCC report there was the graphic in which the Medieval Warm Period was portrayed as clearly warmer than the present. This was solved in the 1995 report by simply showing data after the MWP, hence shortening their historical reference. Now you’re only concerned about a particular month in the last century. Soon you’ll be saying how hot this minute is today.
      
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      September 13, 2016 11:12am
      - Griff
        
        JIV
        Adoration of the lamb.
        IPCC 1990 figure 7.1c on p. 202 is a a schematic taken from a book published in 1960 odd by Lamb that is of one place central England.
        Schematic as in it is not scaled to actual temperature .
        I know about lamb I also know that people who bleat endlessly on about one early estimate of temperatures in one place are actually repeating garbage.
        Science is not fixed in time.
        It moves forward as we build more information .
        Since 1990 a lot of effort has been made to quantify temperatures of the past. MBH 98 the famous hockey stick graph was one as was MBH 99 that covers the MEWP
        This effort has discovered that the Medieval Warm Period was not global. That you are still gibbering about such historic efforts shows how stupid and ignorant you are.
        Pages 2k
        Global reconstruction two thousand years
        http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v6/n5/full/ngeo1797.html
        
        Marcott et al
        Global Temperature for the Past 11,300 Years
        http://science.sciencemag.org/content/339/6124/1198
        
        Stop gibbering PRATTs like a nutter.
        PRATT Point refuted a thousand times
        
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        September 13, 2016 12:23pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      You’re a shit stirrer lol. You knew when you posted that the usual suspects would be along to counter anything “climate change”!
      
      I am not really that concerned, after all it’s a General Debate. But to me its as exciting as watching people arguing about religion.
      
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      September 13, 2016 11:35am
    - JIV
      
      Griff, dont you find the whole CAGW debate ridiculous. Trying to determine the exact water temperature from fossilised marine life, or the air temperature from tree rings and ice cores. And then to state that Greenland is so much better than Antactica for whatever reason. The reason why there is so much friction between those that believe and those that dont is because these methods are ridiculous. None can be independently verified and all are subject to interpretation. There is no definitive answer so the arguments will never end.
      
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      September 13, 2016 2:42pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Those ridiculous scientists, eh? Let’s just ignore the unambiguous results of climate science because JIV can’t understand any of it.
        
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        September 13, 2016 2:58pm
      - Griff
        
        Argument from incredulity is a logic error.
        Just because you dont like the conclusions of research into the past climate doesn’t make it wrong Your ignorance is blatantly obvious .
        The argument we are having is between someone who has made an effort to at lest have some ideas about climate change and someone who has no idea besides often pointed out bullshit from the echo chambers of climate change denial.
        
        Independent confirmation is found in different proxy’s for temperature in coral, ice, sea level, tree rings, pond sediments etc all pointing to a warming planet.
        
        You just deny evidence of an inconvenient truth.
        
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        September 13, 2016 3:17pm
- WineOh
  
  Today’s XKCD comic was interesting I thought. http://xkcd.com/1732/
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:44am
  - mikenmild
    
    That’s a great graphic – thanks
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:01am
    - WineOh
      
      I cracked up with the Last Pokemon of North America dying… heh
      
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      September 13, 2016 10:20am
      - mikenmild
        
        I often forget how good xkcd is, so thanks for the reminder.
        
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        September 13, 2016 11:20am
  - JIV
    
    A nice, shiny, new hockey stick
    
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    September 13, 2016 11:45am
- Fletch
  
  CO2 is actually the Miracle Molecule
  
  The astonishing story of a simple chemical that made life on Earth possible and continues its work today. Tiny amounts of this miracle molecule not only make life on Earth possible, but rising atmospheric CO2 levels also spur forest and crop growth, help plants survive heat and drought, and feed the world.
  
  The more CO2, the more plants grow, the better off the planet is.
  
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  September 13, 2016 11:34am
  - mikenmild
    
    Have you considered moving to Venus? Plenty of CO2 there for you.
    
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    September 13, 2016 11:51am
- Icarus
  
  It snowed last week in Welly.
  
  People have never felt such freezing warmth.
  
  Over to NASA:
  
  http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum/
  
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  September 13, 2016 7:20pm
Pongo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3781711/Large-earthquakes-triggered-MOON-Biggest-shakes-history-occurred-spring-tides.html

Far more factual than a hot day proving global warming during el nino
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September 13, 2016 8:06am
- Griff
  
  It is not an El Nino .
  The SOI is presently neutral with a La Nina watch .
  A month is not a day……
  So actual reality is not your strong point .
  http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:11am
  - burt
    
    How long has it been neutral – you can answer in days, weeks or months but if you suggest years then you are as full of shit as your assertion that the only factor in climate we need to consider is CO2.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:52am
waikatogirl

The govt are today announcing ways of lowering NZ atrocious domestic violence statistics. Police attend 110,000 call outs every year. A child is killed by a family member/care giver every 5 weeks.

We all know what the problems are and that it is a minority who are using all this police time with their fighting, drinking and bitching at each other.

As my hubby said to me when I told him the number of callouts, “Someone is taking our share of police visits.”
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September 13, 2016 8:07am
- cmm
  
  Please don’t stray from the narrative.
  
  Repeat after me:
  Everyone has equal amounts of domestic violence and kid killing.
  It only shows up in certain sectors of society because the police victimise them and watch them more closely than the rest of us.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:26am
- VicParking
  
  In fact the PM said today that the statistics will actually go up because more Domestic Violence cases will be reported and more people prosecuted.
  This however will not top Liebor and the MSM who will come out after it is implemented to say its not working statistics have gone up!!!.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:50am
- G152
  
  Jake the muss and his ilk?
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:01am
  - Manolo
    
    Yes, entirely a Maori problem.
    
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    September 13, 2016 11:38am
- Jack5
  
  Yep, good to reduce domestic violence.
  
  But to talk of “NZ atrocious … statistics” implies NZ is internationally bad in domestic violence.
  
  This is bullshit based on a survey of nine of the world’s 197 countries, and in which NZ was classed as being on a level with countries such as Norway and Finland, hardly notorious for ill-treating women and children (the villains are obviously assumed to be men, though some women can be handy with their fists).
  
  Many of the MPs’ spin lackeys in Parliament are either incompetent or they are liars.
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:23am
dave_c_

Forgive the test comment here – but my last comment appears to have missed the mail, and was not posted.
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September 13, 2016 8:08am
- Jack5
  
  The stage coach will be passing again on Thursday. Can you have it ready for the coachman?
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:29am
Inandout

Was that stephie’s mother on Henry’s show this morning? I was waiting for Paul to ask some tough questions, but he just said what he was instructed to.
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September 13, 2016 8:09am
holysheet

It’s finally happened. After my warning last week about me and she who must be obeyed, we have now joined the 40,000 homeless that liabore say is out there. I waited with the expectation that someone from liabore would contact us and offer their support in getting a state house. Alas, this was not to be, so from tonight we will be living in a shed with only the basics.

Liabore have now lost any chance of us ever voting for them. I see in the latest poll that they need all the votes they can get. Bugger, and here’s me thinking they would help.
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September 13, 2016 8:09am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Can’t wait for Christmas when the ‘homeless’ will swell to 100,000’s as Kiwis debunk to canvas, caravans, hotels, motels, friends settees; where will the little one be then I wonder
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:06am
smttc

Good on David Seymour for calling out the National Socialists.
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September 13, 2016 8:11am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Is Seymour the guy who was going to turn Act’s fortunes around but who has turned out to be all piss and wind?
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:18am
  - smttc
    
    So Captain you are happy that 10% of taxpayers pay 37% of all tax are you? And 47% take more than they put in the pot?
    
    You’re with the right party then.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:24am
  - deadrightkev
    
    We agree on that Cappo.
    
    The problem for many of us is that there needs to be a real party and a strong leader on the right where there is a huge vacuum.
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:10am
EAD

Rent row mayhem as violent stand-off erupts after home blaze. Bizarre daylight dispute erupts outside city home after fire

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rent-row-mayhem-as-violent-standoff-erupts-after-home-blaze-35041205.html#comments

Just watch the associated video – what an extraordinary scene in Ireland of all places. Looking at that news clip I could swear it was Detroit at best, Mogadishu at worst.

I do wonder about the Irish – they still have a chip on their shoulder about the “English”, whilst they lose their land to animals like those in the video.

The speed of transformation in the Emerald Isle has been breathtaking – it was only a generation ago Ireland was pretty much all Irish then they lowered interest rates to create a temporary boom and the likes of Alan Shatter opened the border’s with the excuse “the Irish won’t do the jobs the foreigners will” (where have we heard that before))

Their apparent lack of concern about what is going on despite many dying fighting their own kith and kin (the British) for years is particularly galling.

RIP Ireland – coming soon to a street near you.
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September 13, 2016 8:12am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, out of interest whose side were you on during the troubles in Northern Ireland ?
  
  Papists or Protestants ?
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:52am
dave_c_

You may well have been able to fool the public with a ‘body double’ back in the fifties or sixties, but not today !

With today’s technologies and camera capability, all is exposed.

That woman who came out of the Chelsea Clinton home, was not Hilary Clinton

http://www.rense.com/general96/bodybdoub.htm

http://www.rense.com/general96/ringerfing.htm

This is particularly damning :

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1996

Clearly something is going down. She’s likely no longer alive, and the power elites are playing for time, and frantically working out how to proceed.
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September 13, 2016 8:15am
stigie

Angry is off to Canada tomorrow for the Global Progess Conference, will Grant rally the troups around the BBQ to replace the Labour leader..?

Let’s hope not, because most of us on the centre right thinks Angry Andrew is doing a fine job of keeping his caucus dumbed down !~
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September 13, 2016 8:16am
dave_c_

You may well have been able to fool the public with a ‘body double’ back in the fifties or sixties,
but not today !

With today’s technologies and camera capability, all is exposed.

That woman who came out of the Chelsea Clinton home, was not Hilary Clinton
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September 13, 2016 8:16am
- Huevon
  
  No way. More likely a hurried reassumption of human form. Hopefully next time we see her forked tongue.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:39am
- deadrightkev
  
  Yes I thought that too and facial recognition software should find that out right?
  
  The thing is that heroin addicts who have overdosed look dead until they are given a shot. Then they wake up and walk away like nothing happened.
  
  There is no doubt that if this is Clinton she could also be medicated enough for long enough to get a cameo on screen. It is a fools errand though and you can fool all of the people some of the time…
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:16am
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FYI Kiwibloggers 🙂

Seen this?

http://www.indianweekender.co.nz/Pages/ArticleDetails/7/6860/New-Zealand/Meet-the-citys-potential-future-leaders

With a 20-year experience in local government, defending the public and their interest, as a self-funded anti-privatisation and anti-corruption ‘public watchdog’, Penny Bright says that as mayor, she would bring council services and regulatory functions back “in-house” under the public service model, and stop corrupt cronyism and corporate welfare.

_________________________

In my view, Neo-liberal , ‘Rogernomic$’ helped to wreck Auckland (and New Zealand).

Fellow Auckland Mayoral candidate Phil Goff, was a Cabinet Minister in that 1984-87 ‘Rogernomic$’ Labour Government.

That’s where I first met Phil Goff, when as the Minister for Housing, Muldoon’s ‘rent freeze’ was lifted, which affected low-income families.

A few of founded a group – ‘AARH’
(Action Against Rent Hikes), to fight this.

In my view – the debate that should be happening – is (genuinely and fiercely politically ‘Independent’ Auckland Mayoral candidate Penny Bright, campaigning to ‘roll back Rogernomic$’, and current Labour MP, Phil Goff, defending the ‘Rogernomic$’ reforms that he helped instigate, and their continuation via Council Controlled Organisations (CCOs) then Public-Private-Partnerships (PPPs)?

Who would like to see THAT debate, to help enable Auckland electors ‘cast an informed vote’?

Auckland Mayoral candidate Penny Bright vs Auckland Mayoral candidate Phil Goff – ‘Is it time to ‘roll back Rogernomic$’?

Penny Bright

2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.

‘Activists – get things done’.
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September 13, 2016 8:17am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Let the downticks fly – 30 by 9:30am?
  Stupid, irrelevant woman.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:20am
  - stigie
    
    Going to be very damn close Captain..?
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:46am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Target achieved.
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:33am
- Happychappy
  
  Penny can you list the positions you held in your twenty years of local Government without listing activist or rates bludger
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:27am
- stigie
  
  “Activists – get things done’.
  
  Like defacing billboards and wrecking other peoples water toby’s with an angle grinder !~
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:28am
  - alloytoo
    
    For a brief moment I considered defacing Penny’s (for Mayor) sign.
    
    But I couldn’t think of anything to make it look worse.
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:11am
- cmm
  
  In summary:
  
  Bludger wants more free stuff….
  
  Now there’s a surprise!
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:31am
- Aliog
  
  Pay your rates
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:31am
- Awww C-mon
  
  Spray, Walk Away
  
  Doesn’t answer questions
  
  Doesn’t interact with other KBer’s
  
  Lay money if I was to accuse her of being corrupt, taking money under the table and only avoiding telling lies by not answering questions there would be an interaction and compliant to DPF…
  
  So I wont do those things today.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:46am
- Rich Prick
  
  ‘Activists – get things done’
  
  How about getting your rates payment done, you loon.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:48am
  - alloytoo
    
    Penny’s credibility would be greatly enhanced if her unpaid rates were deposited into a lawyers trust account pending the outcome of her dispute with the City.
    
    Chances of that happening….lower than Penny’s chance being elected.
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:14am
- burt
  
  Penny, NZ’s version of Google. You have substantive wealth ( a freehold Auckland house ) you pay no tax and don’t pay rates. You really have mastered behaving like a foreign multinational.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:49am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Penny Bright; the Facebook of Morningside; her motto should be “Pay your fair share, except when you’re like me”. 😀
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:50am
- stigie
  
  Sheesh….50 and still going up !~
  
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  September 13, 2016 1:36pm
waikatogirl

holysheet, Those who are capable of helping themselves won’t see the little liabore rescue team.

Good luck with ‘She who must be obeyed’ living in a shed.
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September 13, 2016 8:19am
Happychappy

Andrew Little will have all the polls taken this year to look at on his trip to Canada so he should be able fathom out that instead of there being a bogus poll it might have more to do with Labour and his inept leadership.For a former Union boss that should know what unpopular means he lacks the knowledge to be able to change and give the public a reason to warm to himself
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September 13, 2016 8:19am
pdm

dave_c_ 8.16am

There was a man living in Waipawa (he is now deceased) who was a double for Gough Whitlam on a few occasions.

Short term employment I guess.
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September 13, 2016 8:23am
- dave_c_
  
  https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1996
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:29am
cmm

In Oz another bloke called Bruce goes off the rails:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/84188485/prepared-to-die-alleged-australian-terrorist-caught-on-tape-amid-stabbing

Could have happened to anyone…
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September 13, 2016 8:28am
Aliog

The Stranded is worth a read this morning – some of them in total denial over the latest poll, some of them clutching at straws (my favourite being a comment that Andy is much more assured because “…he’s less mumbly…”), and some formerly rabid ones acknowledging that if they don’t move to the centre they’re toast. Made my morning!
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September 13, 2016 8:35am
- stigie
  
  And fighting amongst themselves seems to be common practice at the Stranded when the polls are not in their favour !~
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:43am
- Garbageman
  
  Cheers Aliog for doing gods work so we don’t have to, although it might be worth the visit to see the spiteful delusional loons in action, they really do sum up their respective parties don’t they, bitter twisted and full of hate, mostly for “rwnjs” but always enough left over for each other
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:50am
peterwn

Something wrong here – a drunken student (whose parents have pots of money) repeatedly punches a police woman in the head causing brain injuries (which it seems will never fully heal – she could not drive for two months and apparently still get headaches) and gets 300 hours community service. His lawyer argues for name suppression and discharge without conviction which thankfully the judge did not grant. If society is keen on protecting and supporting its police, then surely it should have been jail. A Singapore judge would not have had any qualms when imposing sentence.
The specific assault charge was not mentioned – I wondered whether it would attract a ‘strike’ warning, but it seemed to be below the barrier for a strike warning. Seems strange when an offender does not get a ‘strike’ warning for causing significant internal head injuries, but gets a ‘strike’ warning for pinching a woman’s bottom.

Policewoman did not want to meet offender at a restorative justice conference and defence tries to use this as argument. Seems some offenders want to use such conferences to further their own ends – eg the protestor wanting to give the spat upon victim an ear bashing. It is quite understandable that the only ‘conference’ a victim would want is for the offender to be in the pillory with a plentiful supply of rotten fruit available.
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September 13, 2016 8:42am
- kowtow
  
  The prick should have been sent to prison. However I think he’s being discriminated against because he’s rich. He’s on the front page of the paper. Only cos he’s rich. That’s richophobia . This paper likes to editorialise about equality, this story should have been buried along with all the others on the court page.
  We should all feel ashamed, white privelige is a crime in itself. https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/court-news/sentence-may-be-appealed
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:04am
  - peterwn
    
    He is not on the front page of the DomPost – there is a more pressing matter there – an intoxicated guy claiming that john Key would pay for his ‘Green Parrot’ meal. An acquaintance of mine with incurable KDS would say it was all John Key’s fault.
    
    Coming to think of it – why was John at the ‘Green Parrot’ – hoping to have a chat with Winston Parnell Tearooms style?
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:36am
    - Gabby
      
      He heard one of the waitresses had a ponytail.
      
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      September 13, 2016 8:19pm
  - cmm
    
    But just like the Maori king’s son, sending him to jail would have wrecked his future…
    
    This unfortunately sets a precedent and sends a message that you can get away with anything if you tug the right heart strings.
    
    If this boy was sent to prison for assault perhaps his life might have been ruined, but it would have sent a pretty healthy message to others: keep your nose clean, behave properly, otherwise there are consequences.
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:20am
Keeping Stock

So Len Brown is not going to be lost to Auckland after all – the “independent” candidate Phil Goff is likely to offer Brown a job.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11706502

Add to the mix the very strong rumours that Clayton Cosgrove will leave Parliament to become Goff’s Chief of Staff, and Auckland is going to be run by a cabal of Labour Party time-servers; despite Goff’s claim that he will be an “independent mayor”. Auckland voters need to understand that if they vote for Goff, they are voting for more big spending, more hair-brained schemes like light rail down Dominion Road and on to the airport, and significant rates increases for the next decade.
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September 13, 2016 8:54am
kowtow

The mutaween of “secular” Aotearoa. But is it racist?

“Survey data for New Zealand suggests that those living in deprived neighbourhoods and Maori and Pasifika drinkers are significantly more likely to drink hazardously than other New Zealand drinkers.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/area-too-vulnerable-booze-shops
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September 13, 2016 8:58am
Manolo

A rabbit would be proud of this productive citizen:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3783850/Immigrant-turned-small-five-bed-council-house-children.html

A French migrant who scoffed at the offer of a five-bedroom house has refused to rule out adding to the eight children who have already helped him claim more than £100,000 in benefits.

Arnold Sube is looking to move out of the three-bedroom property where he is currently residing in Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, having blown his £15,000 savings on private rent within a few weeks of arriving.
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September 13, 2016 9:04am
- kowtow
  
  French? Yeah right.
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:13am
  - Manolo
    
    Yes. French as a croissant and foie gras. Pure Gallic.
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:15am
- stephieboy
  
  By one who knows about his own productive citizens,
  
  http://s5.picofile.com/file/8119418518/D170_0427_05.jpg
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:15am
  - Manolo
    
    That family photo is a very low blow, stephieboy. 😀
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:18am
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo. it is in the public domain . I’m sure the said family will not mind at all as you make cheap shots against those who allegedly ” breed like rabbits. “
      
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      September 13, 2016 9:23am
      - Manolo
        
        Allegedly? But, but, but, the family could be….mine!
        
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        September 13, 2016 9:25am
      - Twinkletoes
        
        Fortunately families from this ethnic grouping do not tend to marry their cousins and therefore generally produce mentally and physically perfect offspring unlike those who have followed their prophets advice have who practiced consanguineous marriage for fourteen centuries with the resultant human deficiencies the world is now seeing in this ideology. Nutters!
        
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        September 13, 2016 10:13am
Manolo

The crook’s machine admits its mistake:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/12/hillary-clinton-pneumonia-campaign-regret-911-trump

Hillary Clinton’s campaign has acknowledged mishandling news of her pneumonia, as Donald Trump sought to capitalize on growing questions over his opponent’s trustworthiness at a critical moment in their race for the White House.

“We could have done better yesterday,” wrote Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri on Monday, after some Democrats began questioning whether the campaign had been fully transparent in its weekend accounts of her health.

“In retrospect, we could have handled it better in providing more information. That’s on us. We regret that,” added press secretary Brian Fallon.
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September 13, 2016 9:08am
- Rich Prick
  
  In retrospect, we could have handled it better in providing ~~more~~ honest information.
  
  Even the spin is a lie.
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:23am
  - stephieboy
    
    Rich Prick , including this one ?,
    
    “Art of the spin: Trump bankers question his portrayal of financial comeback”
    
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-bankruptcies-insig-idUSKCN0ZX0GP
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:35am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Newsflash, American voters don’t care about anything that may or may not have happened in 1987-1990. They do care about what’s happening to them today and that Hillary munted out yesterday. And described a quarter of them as “deplorable” the day before.
      
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      September 13, 2016 9:50am
- JIV
  
  Should she really be wandering the streets if she has pneumonia? She should be tucked up in bed drinking gallons of water.
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:24am
  - Ed Snack
    
    More than that, she certainly shouldn’t be embracing vulnerable children and spreading the disease to them. I do hope that the child is now on antibiotics to prevent pneumonia; if that’s what it really is.
    
    The Clinton campaign is so instinctively dishonest one feels that if they said it was pneumonia that is almost certainly exactly what it isn’t.
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:02am
Stars And Stripes

Poor quality education is being blamed for south Auckland high schools’ low pakeha enrolments, but some community leaders say the issue is complicated and numbers are misleading.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/313154/fear-not-facts-driving-'white-flight‘

Complicated and misleading, no pretty simple I would have thought.
People don’t want to go to schools with low achieving students who can barely graffiti their name on a wall.
Everyone who votes with their feet is making a pragmatic choice.
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September 13, 2016 9:15am
- stephieboy
  
  Thus from your vantage point of living in the region, you would additionally recommend the creation of walled ghettos ?
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:25am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    1.I live in Taranaki which is not South Auckland, you will find it half way down the North Island on the west coast.
    2.No need to create a walled ghetto in South Auckland as you already have one large unwalled one.
    However I do think they should put up walls along the side of the road from the airport so tourists don’t have to see this fetid eyesore when they first arrive.
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:19am
    - Manolo
      
      Fetid…and dangerous.
      
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      September 13, 2016 10:21am
- Rich Prick
  
  Everyone who votes with their feet is making a pragmatic choice.
  
  The left really hate that. There was some academic on RNZ this morning suggesting this was a problem needing a solution. I would have thought it was merely parents acting in the best interests of their children. Which is a good thing so far as I can see.
  
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  September 13, 2016 9:40am
- Komata
  
  Those of us with long memories might recall the very interesting 1980’s phenomenon of ‘Samoan Flight’ when SAMOAN parents took their children away from schools in certain East Auckland suburbs BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED THAT THEIR CHILDREN WERE NOT RECEIVING AN ADEQUATE AND USEFUL EDUCATION (Blocks added only for emphasis). The children concerned were placed in private schools, which did not exactly conform to certain narratives…Several ‘State’ schools were badly-depleted by the phenomenon and, of course, there was shock and horror from the usual suspects (including the teachers unions, naturally), especially as certain well-established stereotypes were not being conformed to. The media was all over the matter like a rash and couldn’t believe that these parents were ungrateful enough to want to have their children better educated, AND that these self-same (ungrateful) parents had the absolute temerity to place their children in PRIVATE schools… (Not done at all Sir, Not done at all…). The matter was. as always, a nine-day wonder, but indicated that it was not just the ‘Europeans’ who were concerned at the quality of education being received.
  
  Unfortunately, the phenomenon would seem to have died ut, and ‘situation normal’ is once more in place…
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:28am
Manolo

The aging philanderer agreed to do the gig only after the organisers promised him a nice blonde escort:
http://deadline.com/2016/09/hillary-clinton-sick-bill-clinton-hollywood-fundraiser-replacement-1201818242/

Bill Clinton will be stepping in tomorrow for his pneumonia plagued wife at the pricey fundraisers set for Seth MacFarlane and Barry Diller’s homes, campaign sources confirmed..
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September 13, 2016 9:21am
Manolo

Just in case the crook Clinton kicks the bucket:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-health-replace-contingency-228037

A former Democratic National Committee chairman says President Barack Obama and the party’s congressional leaders should immediately identify a potential successor candidate for Hillary Clinton for the off-chance a health emergency forces her out of the race.

“Now is the time for all good political leaders to come to the aid of their party,” said Don Fowler, who helmed the DNC from 1995 to 1997, during Bill Clinton’s presidency, and has backed Hillary Clinton since her 2008 presidential bid. “I think the plan should be developed by 6 o’clock this afternoon.”
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September 13, 2016 9:28am
stephieboy

Manolo

“But, but, but, the family could be….mine!”

Well, it’s most very highly likely not .People have large families for a host of different and complex reasons .
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September 13, 2016 9:29am
- Inandout
  
  We know Muslims tend to have large families and not for a ‘host of reasons’ – just one – to outbreed the infidels.
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:57am
- GoVege
  
  There’s usually only one reason. ..to keep a man’s woman/ women barefoot and pregnant.
  
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  September 13, 2016 11:55pm
EAD

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts nails it again:

The Tide is Turning: The Official Story Is Now The Conspiracy Theory

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/09/07/the-tide-is-turning-the-official-story-is-now-the-conspiracy-theory-paul-craig-roberts/

Yesterday it was Hillarys health, before that it was “climate science”, “democracy”, “central banking”, 9/11, JFK, the list goes on….

If you read the news and expect anything more than a fable and entertainment, go back to the meadow to chew on the grass and wait for the sheep truck to take you to the abattoir.
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September 13, 2016 9:45am
- dave_c_
  
  Yes, as always, this man provides rational and considered opinion.
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:07am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, yes and the Sandy Hook , Boston Bombing , Aurora Theater Charlie Hebro , Paris massacres , Brussels , Orlando and other false flags smoking guns … ”
  
  Yeah right !
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:17am
cmm

Clinton’s blue glasses – nope she isn’t a John Lennon/ Johnny Depp fan.

They’re to help prevent sesizures.

http://www.epilepsy.com/connect/forums/living-epilepsy-adults/finding-zeiss-z1-blue-lenses-treat-photosensitive-epilepsy
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September 13, 2016 9:56am
- stephieboy
  
  cmm, and help to alleviate many other conditions ,
  
  Why Johnny Depp and I see the world through blue-tinted spectacles
  “Besides correcting Johnny Depp’s blurred vision, tinted lenses can treat Meares-Irien ‘visual stress’ syndrome, which causes dizziness, discomfort and eye pain”
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/10340122/Why-Johnny-Depp-and-I-see-the-world-through-blue-tinted-spectacles.html
  
  But thanks for sharing your undoubted and unrivalled medical and neurological expertise !
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:13am
  - cmm
    
    Meares-Irien syndrome is often a side effect of epilepsy, Parkinson’s and similar conditions.
    
    She’s only very recently started wearing those specs…. coincidental with trouble walking up stairs and other parkinsons symproms (including pneumonia). Hmmm wonder why.
    
    Keep digging…
    
    btw: I suffer Meares-Irien too, but I have had it for my whole life along with other vision issues and dyslexia. I can however walk up stairs without collapsing. I don’t “short circuit”.
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:46am
- kowtow
  
  I wondered about those. Funny how the media party are not interested in anything that could be construed to be negative towards the female candidate, I see her supporters are saying any questioning of her health is “Sexist”.
  Dangerous times we live in when any debate is sought to be shut down using the language of far left identity politics.
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:16am
  - Manolo
    
    Imagine if Trump have had similar health scare problem. We would be today reading wall-to-wall articles on his incapacity. Guaranteed.
    
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    September 13, 2016 10:51am
  - Komata
    
    It is, of course, quite OK for such speakers to do exactly the same when attacking their perceived enemy; especially when they (the left) are in imminent danger of losing the prize (the ‘levers’). ‘Only when the left do it etc. etc. etc….
    
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    September 13, 2016 11:16am
Tokyo_Joe

Derryn Hinch’s maiden speech in the Australian Senate yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWr8g04iSfg

Bravo to Derryn for living up to his pre-election promise to use parliamentary privilege to ‘name names’ (child sex offenders). Shame on the majority of the mainstream media for playing it safe, so far, by not reporting the sex offenders’ names (the above video link is unedited). What a refreshing change to hear such black & white language. Between Derryn, Pauline Hanson & Malcolm Roberts, expect some cracking Senate debates in the next few years, and change for the better.
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September 13, 2016 10:00am
- Inandout
  
  I noticed those leaving the chamber during his speech, and wonder what party they represent. Most members looked like professional politicians, glued to their comfy seats.
  
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  September 13, 2016 11:08am
Keeping Stock

Two more gold medals for our Paralympic swinning; one each for Cameron Leslie and Sophie Pascoe, her third of these games.

Whilst some commenters here do not rate the Paralympians, I have nothing but admiration for young people who have found success in sport to overcome whatever life has thrown at them. Leslie has a quadruple limb disability, but has not allowed that to control his life. He has now won gold medals at three consecutive Paralympics. He is also a qualified journalist.

The performance thus far of our Paralympians has been excellent, and I am pleased that I made the decision to financially support them earlier this year, albeit in a very small way. Their courage and dedication is just as much as any of their able-bodied counterparts.
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September 13, 2016 10:09am
Manolo

It is anybody’s race:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/09/12/UPICVoter-poll-Donald-Trump-widens-lead-over-Hillary-Clinton-to-3-points/1571473691414/

The UPI/CVoter daily presidential tracking poll released Monday shows Donald Trump leading Hillary Clinton by about 3 percentage points.

The most recent data reflect a 0.8 percentage point shift toward Clinton compared to data collected a day earlier. Trump was at nearly 50 percent — 49.1 percent — compared with 45.3 percent for Clinton in the seven-day polling period ending Saturday. Trump’s highest number since July 14 was 49.2 percent on July 24.
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September 13, 2016 10:26am
Manolo

Mounting doubts about the crook:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/295441-clinton-allies-criticize-campaign-over-health-secrecy

A lack of transparency about her health has turned what might have been a non-issue into a hugely problematic storyline for Hillary Clinton that could plague the Democratic presidential nominee into November, say allies and confidants.

One ally described the string of events that culminated in Clinton leaving a Sept. 11 memorial early as a “self-inflicted f—ing nightmare.”
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September 13, 2016 11:09am
- Inandout
  
  So long as the Democrats can keep her on life support until after the election, so it is a proper contest.
  
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  September 13, 2016 11:17am
  - Fletch
    
    Yep, after the election it doesn’t matter. She can be like Davros, with most of her shrunken, shrivelled body in a Dalek wheelchair, connected to life support and getting her minions to do everything else.
    
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    September 13, 2016 11:50am
- Rich Prick
  
  The Democrats seem determined to throw her corpse over the finish line rather than admit that she has a very real problem.
  
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  September 13, 2016 11:34am
burt

Finally;

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/84196541/gender-pay-gap–would-you-quit-your-job-over-a-pay-rise

A woman has worked out that how to get the same pay as a male is to demand it. IE: Not settle for less then gripe about getting less.

If only a few more famous moaning weaklings like Jennifer Lawrence didn’t settle for less than her male co-stars then cry because the male got more.
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September 13, 2016 11:21am
Manolo

The philanderer comes clean:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bill-reveals-it-happened-before/article/2601607

Former President Bill Clinton said Monday that his wife has fallen before due to dehydration.

Revealing some of her health past for the first time, Clinton told CBS: “Rarely, on more than one occasion, over the last many, many years, the same sort of thing’s happened to her when she got severely dehydrated.”
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September 13, 2016 11:24am
- burt
  
  Well Bill is being a bit unfair on Hillary. He was good at making sure Monica kept her fluids up surely he should take similar care of Hillary ?
  
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  September 13, 2016 1:02pm
Komata

As clear evidence is now available that a body double is being used as a ‘Hillary’ replacement, one now has to ask ‘Who is the real’ she’ (aka ‘would the real Hillary please stand up ; if she can…)? The desire to win and have absolute power would seem to create all sorts of interesting situations and have unforeseen consequences…..
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September 13, 2016 11:25am
- KevinH
  
  Millions of people around the world would have watched the clip of Hillary’s stumble and would have recognised the symptoms and her miraculous recovery hours later.
  She is a diabetic.
  
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  September 13, 2016 11:57am
  - Sideoiler
    
    She is a diabetic.
    
    Diabetic my arse! and if by the most remote chance she was, why not just say so.
    Have a good look at the latest video, she is unable to stand unaided watch as she tries to take her first step toward the vehicle,
    Stick a fork in her, She’s done.
    
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    September 13, 2016 1:04pm
    - deadrightkev
      
      Yep and not before time either. She is a POS and the world will rest much easier when her and her fake husband are in jail.
      
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      September 13, 2016 1:10pm
- RF
  
  Yep… Just seen it on CNN. Bobble head has a clone. Fit as a buck rat, Better looking.. Thinner hips that are not 6 axe handles wide like the real one. Was bouncing down the street waving to everyone a few hours after being thrown into her ambulance / hearse. They were showing close ups of their hands showing comparisons. The clone has a shorter right index finger.
  
  Jeez I’m thick. I should have spotted the difference. I hope Bill knows who is the real one.
  
  Bloody hilarious.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:57pm
Inandout

Another tourist destination rooted by Muslims.

Bali High will become Bali Low as only teetotallers will book holidays.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/709831/Bali-alcohol-ban-Islamic-law-tourist-beach-Indonesia
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September 13, 2016 11:30am
- Manolo
  
  Isn’t stephieboy’s Islam wonderfully tolerant? Cheers!
  
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  September 13, 2016 11:33am
- burt
  
  FGM of young prepubescent females is acceptable but drinking alcohol isn’t. Those sky fairy worshipers are bonkers eh.
  
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  September 13, 2016 1:04pm
- starboard
  
  Haven’t been back since they blew the shit out of Kuta
  
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  September 13, 2016 6:48pm
Manolo

The Clinton gang will do whatever it takes:
http://nypost.com/2016/09/12/clinton-skips-out-on-emergency-room-during-health-episode/

Hillary Clinton was headed to an emergency room following her frightening collapse at the Sept. 11 memorial ceremony — but detoured to daughter Chelsea Clinton’s apartment to keep details of her medical treatment under wraps, The Post has learned.

Secret Service protocol called for the Democratic presidential nominee to be rushed to a state-designated Level I Trauma Center in the wake of her Sunday morning health crisis, sources said.
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September 13, 2016 11:50am
Fletch

Blogger Matt Walsh pities Hillary –

Her physical frailty is understandable, of course. She’s pushing 70 years old. She’s an elderly woman. She’s less than a decade away from the average age of death for females in the United States. This is about the time when many human beings start to slow down. At this point, or in a few short years, they find that their bodies begin to fail them, their health becomes a constant concern, and they spend more time at the doctor’s office than they’d spent, cumulatively, through their first six or seven decades on Earth. It’s quite natural, and we’ll all go through it if we’re fortunate enough to live that long.

So it’s not Hillary’s physical malfunctions that I call pitiful. She can’t be blamed or judged harshly for those, obviously. The pitiful thing is that she — a sick old lady with a lifetime of scandal and corruption to her name, an unofficial criminal record, a sex predator husband, and a closet full of skeletons and dirty laundry that have been and will continue to be uncovered and aired publicly, at least on the internet if not on CNN — is still so desperate for control and authority that she cannot give up the pursuit, even if it kills her. We are all witnessing this disgraced and despised woman as she scratches and bites and kicks and crawls through the muck and the mud, coughing and gasping for breath along the way, hoping to drink from the Cup of Absolute Power just one time before she goes.

It’s hard to watch, honestly. It’s like an episode of Cops where the meth head comes screaming out of her trailer, half naked and half insane, scratching and punching at the police officer who confiscated her drugs. There’s nothing funny or entertaining about it. You can’t take delight in seeing a woman lose every last shred of whatever dignity she had left. But at least with Cops you can turn it off or change the channel without having to worry that the poor addict from the trailer park will be in charge of the whole country come January.

Why?

Because this is all she knows how to do. It’s all she has ever lived for. She strives for power because she simply can’t conceive of doing anything else, which is reason enough never to give it to her. She chases after the presidency because she has to have it, she can’t live without it, she can’t face the possibility of never having it. Hillary Clinton refuses to exist in a world that she doesn’t control.

She is, in more than one sense, very much like Gollum, only without the cave or the riddles or the alliance with a giant man-eating spider (well, besides Debbie Wasserman Schultz). Indeed, I can imagine Hillary finally sitting behind the desk in the Oval Office for the first time after being sworn in, swiveling slightly in her chair, gliding her hands across the shiny wood, gingerly touching the pen that she will use that afternoon to sign the Executive Orders banning guns and legalizing partial birth abortion across the country, and whispering lustily to herself, “My precious.”

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/hillary-clinton-is-a-sick-woman-addicted-to-power-and-its-pitiful-to-watch/
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September 13, 2016 11:55am
- howitis
  
  Well said that man.
  Buy that man a DB !
  
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  September 13, 2016 1:01pm
Reid

More results of the diversity dividend.

NSW child, 4, identifies as transgender as data reveals growing referrals for gender dysphoria

A four-year-old who identifies as transgender has begun to transition before their first day at school, hoping to complete the full transformation by 2017.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/32501729/child-4-in-sex-change-bid-as-government-reveals-hundreds-of-kids-seeking-gender-reassignment/#page1

This is evil. Anyone who thinks this is OK is evil. Anyone who promotes things like this, which is a natural outcome of the present propaganda meme on transgender rights, are evil. Doctors who do this, are evil. Nurses who do this, are evil. Media who report on this without saying its evil, are evil. Politicians who stand by and allow this, are evil. Teachers who encourage this, are evil.

Hear that lefties? Evil, evil, evil, evil, evil.
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September 13, 2016 11:55am
- Fletch
  
  It is – considering that most children, if they have feelings like those – grow out of them by their teen years.
  
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  September 13, 2016 12:06pm
Scott

Yep agree with Reid and fletch. A friend of mine had a young son who at the age of 4 used to dress up in his sisters clothes and wear their shoes.
If it was today he’d be a candidate for transitioning. The reality was he was going through a phase of childhood and is now a normal heterosexual man.
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September 13, 2016 12:55pm
Manolo

MSM cheerleading and spin all day:
http://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/is-clinton-campaign-releasing-all-info-763098691521
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September 13, 2016 12:57pm
Manolo

Our resident multiculturalist and progressive will be delighted with these numbers and would like the same to happen in NZ:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/11491-syrian-refugees-resettled-us-15-over-target-046-are-christians

With three weeks of the fiscal year to go, the Obama administration has exceeded its Syrian refugee admission target by 15 percent, with 11,491 resettled in the United States as of the beginning of this week.

August ended with a new monthly record of 3,189 Syrian refugee arrivals, and a further 751 have been ushered in so far in September: 749 Sunni Muslims; two Catholic Christians.
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September 13, 2016 1:10pm
stigie

This made me chuckle on what Puckish Rogue at the Stranded said about Angry Andy on the latest poll..?

“No its a fair call, I mean Little says its bogus and because hes seen an internal poll, which he won’t publish, it sounds entirely plausible to me”
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September 13, 2016 1:30pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Stigie:
  
  Did Puckish Rogue refer to “an internal poll” because Little pulled it out of his ass? How convenient!
  
  And Lprent excels again:
  
  … you clearly haven’t reconciled yourself to the fact that comparing just two parties polling is about as useful as you looking at your dick size …
  
  He often refers to penises – I wonder why?
  
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  September 13, 2016 1:37pm
  - stigie
    
    Some dicks love dick Nostra if you have authority..?
    
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    September 13, 2016 1:55pm
Don the Kiwi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBbtCvUGweo

Crooked Hillary is the main actor for Trump in his campaign adds. Give the girl a cigar 🙂
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September 13, 2016 1:33pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Don The Kiwi, Thank you for bringing that cutting to our attention. It is contributions like that, that make this the best blog on the blogosphere.
  
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  September 13, 2016 7:23pm
Nostradamus

The Colin Craig circus continues:

This morning, the court heard how Conservative Party board members were told Craig allegedly sent a message containing the phrase “magic hands down your panties” to his former press secretary.

Magic hands!
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September 13, 2016 1:51pm
stephieboy

The Trump campaign including the GOP and Conservatives can be seen as a war against the Clintons . No family or couple has been singled out for a relentless systematic and vindictive campaign directed at one family and two individuals especially Hillary Clinton.

And all for what ? A so-called baseless Benghazi conspiracy vendetta with endless investigations that have got nowhere with absolutely nothing substantive to pin on her . Also, all importantly recalling the Beruit Embassy Bombing attack 1983 killing 17 US Embassy staff . Significant security breaches were uncovered but only subject to one investigation ( led by a Democrat majority )that did not condemn the Reagan administration but sought only to improve security at all US Embassies worldwide ,

RONALD REAGAN’S BENGHAZI,

Ronald Reagan’s Benghazi,” by Jane Mayer. When militants struck American officials in Beirut under Reagan, Congress pointed fingers at the perpetrators, not at political rivals.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/ronald-reagans-benghazi

Similarly the vastly overblown email saga following the same pattern with an underlying vindictiveness and vendetta . The FBI investigation in fact only found only found of the 30,000 emails,

“… just eight had material that she should have known was “top secret”; 36 of them had “secret” information; and eight more had stuff that she should have known was “confidential The agents also scrounged through the bits and pieces of 30,000 more emails that she didn’t turn over and found three—three!—that contained classified information: one secret and two confidential

About those first 30,000 emails, the ones Clinton turned over, the FBI handed them out to auditors at other agencies that might have an interest in the matter, and after months of review they “up-classified” 2,000 emails to confidential. In other words, when Clinton wrote or received those 2,000 emails, she and her correspondents would have had no reason to suspect they were jotting down classified facts. But the reviewers have declared them classified retroactively. Your taxpayer dollars at work….”

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2016/07/hillary_s_email_scandal_was_overhyped.html

The Clinton Foundation conspiracy claims has also uncovered a pack of lies which at the end of the day reveals what ? What has Breitbart’s Peter Schweizer book and over hyped movie Clinton Cash has not come up with is any incriminating smoking gun.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/23/the_clinton_foundation_controversy_explained.html

I believe that under the circumstances Hillary Clinton has done pretty well and conducted herself with a great measure of dignity and good on her that sound investigative reporting that tends to back her up .She could be forgiven if her health mishaps were a consequence of this vendetta and war against her .

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/23/the_clinton_foundation_controversy_explained.html

Note no Smoking gun whether with Benghazi ,the 30,000 or so emails nor the Clinton foundation .We, therefore, can await with some confidence Julian Assange’s so-called killer blow this October .

BTW an Assange who incredibly naively believes things will dramatically change for the better when Trump cosies up to Putin .
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September 13, 2016 2:21pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Stephen Boyle is getting desperate – maybe he should donate to Crooked Hillary’s medical and hospital expenses.
  
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  September 13, 2016 3:01pm
Nostradamus

From the ABC website:

My colleague Stephanie Anderson has just filed this story.

The Human Rights Commission has accepted a racial discrimination complaint lodged by crossbench Senator David Leyonhjelm.

The Liberal Democrat lodged the complaint over the article by veteran Fairfax journalist Mark Kenny, which blasted him over his wish to see the 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act abolished.

The article, published last month, described him as an “angry white male”.

David Leyonhjelm is a boorish, supercilious know-all with the empathy of a besser block – Journalist Mark Kenny

Senator Leyonhjelm told the ABC that the HRC would now write to Kenny and invite him to respond.

What I’m seeking from Mr Kenny is acknowledgement that what he wrote was unlawful. I’m not looking for money or flowers or sympathy or an apology or anything like that. I’m seeking to make a point – Crossbench Senator David Leyonhjelm

It’s ridiculous that the two big political issues in Australia seem to be marriage equality and a proposed amendment to racial discrimination legislation. Australia has a structural budget problem, which has attracted the interest of credit-rating agencies, but, no, let’s talk about pink fluffy cloud issues instead.
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September 13, 2016 2:40pm
Manolo

Lovely and devout ladies.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1767321/brit-jihadi-bride-sally-jones-is-heading-new-wave-of-all-female-isis-cells-hellbent-on-revenge-attacks-in-the-west/

Brit jihadi bride Sally Jones is heading new wave of all-female ISIS cells hellbent on revenge attacks in the West.
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September 13, 2016 2:48pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Manolo:
  
  all-female ISIS cells
  
  So many honeypots for Stephieboy to choose from!
  
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  September 13, 2016 3:01pm
Manolo

Where are the divisive Obama and his administration?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-violence-shootings-3000-20160912-story.html

With the weekend toll of eight killed and 35 wounded, Chicago surpassed another dreaded milestone in a year that has seen the worst violence in two decades.

As of early Monday, at least 3,028 people had been shot, more than the 2,980 for all of 2015, according to data collected by the Tribune. Last week, Chicago topped 500 homicides after tallying 481 all of last year, according to the Tribune data.
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September 13, 2016 3:07pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo,
  
  where are the divisive Republicans who run Tennessee and the largest city Memphis nearly twice Chicago’s homicide rate ?,
  
  http://www.aol.com/article/2016/04/08/memphis-homicide-rate-nearly-doubles-that-of-chicago-this-year/21339296/
  
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  September 13, 2016 3:42pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    The Mayor of Memphis is Jim Strickland, who is a Democrat. You are so thick.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Strickland_(politician)
    
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    September 13, 2016 3:57pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    You clearly have no idea of the demographics of that city. Black on black homicide is terrible there. My first ever threat of robbery by a black was in Memphis two hours after arriving waiting for my hotel room to be readied.
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:11pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Which lends truth to #blacklivesdontmatter, to blacks.
    
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    September 13, 2016 9:30pm
Nostradamus

Dinner dispute: Will John Key have to go to court as witness to man’s night out at the Green Parrot?

A Wellington man whose $82 meal of grilled meats and beers with a mate has turned into a $10,000 court case – and he wants the Prime Minister as his witness.

They must be wetting themselves in anticipation at The Standard…
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September 13, 2016 3:11pm
Captain Mainwaring

Hoorald says that there are 252 people in NZ worth over $50 million

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11708743

Let’s be generous and say that the average over the 252 is $80 million. Take that money off them and spread it over every household in NZ and it’s about $13,000 per household.
Some at the bottom might appreciate that (and blow it in a few weeks) but to the vast middle class it would make bugger all difference.
So why is it again that the left wants to punish the ‘rich pricks’ and send them and the jobs they create overseas?
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September 13, 2016 3:48pm
AgentBallSack

Burglaries are a problem? Of course not. Thats why a judge gave a guy who has been convicted of over 200* of them a whopping 18 months jail. Despite the maximum sentence being 14 years.

*114 of these have resulted in a prison sentence.
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September 13, 2016 4:12pm
Manolo

Is it at risk?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/congress-can-save-the-internet-1473630838

President Obama wants this to be the last month of an open, uncensored internet guaranteed by the U.S. government. His plan to end American stewardship would hand new power to authoritarian governments offended by the internet as we know it.
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September 13, 2016 4:16pm
Brigitte

If Hillary does get in, will she live long enough to resume the Curse of Tippecanoe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Tippecanoe
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September 13, 2016 4:35pm
Nostradamus

My son is still alive, says 9/11 pilot’s mother

The mother of Mohammed Atta, one of the kamikaze hijackers who destroyed the World Trade Centre, says she believes her son is alive at the US prison in Guantanamo Bay, in an interview published in Spain.

Bozaina Mohamed Mustafa Sheraqi told daily newspaper El Mundo that Atta – one of the masterminds behind the September 11, 2001 attacks – was the victim of an elaborate United States plot and had done nothing wrong.

“He is alive and this is the message I send my son. I think he is in Guantanamo. Son, I want to see you before I die. I am 74 and I live with the hope that you have survived. I know you never did anything wrong and you never could have done what they say you did,” she told the newspaper by telephone from Cairo where she lives with her two daughters.

The US “is hiding the truth. They are the ones who designed this attack to spread the idea that Islam is terrorism. They selected people with Arab passports to blame them and, at the same time, our nations and divide us,” she added.

UglyTruth (if he’s still around) may want to share his thoughts with us.
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September 13, 2016 4:48pm
Griff

UglyTruth
Try typing it three times it works for d4j it may work for wugly.
Warning.
We will hold you responsible for calling the wonk.
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September 13, 2016 4:51pm
EAD

George Soros Warns Europe: Accept Refugees Or Face Extinction

What a nice guy – Soros cares very deeply about Europe’s future. We are lucky to have so many Jews like him who through their selfless work to ensure we become minorities in our ancient homelands.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-12/george-soros-warns-europe-accept-refugees-or-face-extinction
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September 13, 2016 5:47pm
- mikenmild
  
  Would you support removal of people from others’ ancient homelands?
  
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  September 13, 2016 5:57pm
  - EAD
    
    Do you mean send the Maori back to Hawaii/China?
    
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    September 13, 2016 6:05pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I was hoping you were thinking of self-deporting from Aotearoa to your Aryan heartlands.
      
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      September 13, 2016 6:08pm
- Komata
  
  By their deeds shall you know them! Mr Soros and his associates think less than nothing of the average individual and have absolutely no hesitation in using the ‘necessary’ methods to obtain what they ultimately want; One world government. On that basis, and from casual observation, one wonders about the size and shape of the stick that is being used on New Zealand to persuade it to ‘conform’. the evidence is there, the journos don’t want to know….
  
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  September 13, 2016 10:04pm
Nostradamus

Triple j ‘considering moving Hottest 100 from Australia Day’ out of respect for Indigenous

Triple j is understood to be considering changing the date of their annual Australia Day Hottest 100 out of respect for Indigenous people, who view January 26 as the day their land was invaded.

There have recently been calls online for triple j to shift the music countdown, with the hashtag #ChangeTheDate being used on social media.

FFS – maybe we should close all motorways on Australia Day, too, out of respect for Indigenous people?

I mean, in Fremantle, they’ve decided to cancel Australia Day fireworks because (to quote from the media statement) “There has been a growing movement that January 26 is increasingly becoming a day that is ‘not for all Australians’. For many Aboriginal Australians it is indeed a day of sadness and dispossession”.
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September 13, 2016 6:00pm
Stars And Stripes

January 26 is the day that civilization came to Australia and the path to rid the country of primitive backwardness began.
The Abos are just annoyed the government is not giving them free booze and glue for the day to celebrate in style.
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September 13, 2016 6:12pm
Longknives

Why does the NZ Media always have to go completely over the top with their Patriotism?

Good on the Paralympics Sprinter- Awesome Effort! But does anyone actually believe he is “New Zealand’s Latest Sporting Superstar”? and that “He shocked the World”?

It’s the Paralympics- Sorry but there were about 50 people in the stands..
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September 13, 2016 6:25pm
- Longknives
  
  And what happened to the All Black Scandal/Publicity Stunt that the Herald screamed “Sent Shockwaves around the World”? The ‘Bugging Device’ in Hotel Room?
  
  That seems to have quietly disappeared..Wonder why?
  
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  September 13, 2016 6:27pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Longknives:
    
    The All Blacks are the big sports story of the day:
    
    All Blacks Aaron Smith and Dane Coles, two of the best players in the world in their positions, received a very public reminder that they didn’t reach expectations when replaced early in the last weekend’s test against Argentina in Hamilton.
    …
    The All Blacks’ dominance – they are on a 14-test winning streak, have won the last two World Cups and are stretching their lead as the top-ranked team in the world seemingly by the week – has not come easy.
    
    Big Bruv should be along shortly to comment.
    
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    September 13, 2016 6:31pm
    - Manolo
      
      Bruv is unable to comment right now, but he asked me to express his undying admiration for the All Blacks. Go the Blackness!
      
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      September 13, 2016 6:35pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Manolo:
        
        Is he too busy watching the Richie McCaw movie Chasing Great (and reading favourable movie reviews) to join us?
        
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        September 13, 2016 6:50pm
- mikenmild
  
  I have some sympathy. It’s not like a sell-out crowd for the All Blacks at Twickenham with a global TV audience in the hundreds of millions.
  Having said that, I haven’t noticed any headlines particularly over the top.
  ‘Kiwi Blade Runner Liam Malone’s rise to para-sprinting stardom’ was Stuff’s take
  
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  September 13, 2016 6:30pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  Yes and the 50 who were there probably were homeless and were lured in by the promise of a free hotdog if they hung around for an hour or so.
  
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  September 13, 2016 6:34pm
Manolo

Brazil stinks to high heaven:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/13/eduardo-cunha-brazilian-politician-impeachment-dilma-rousseff-expelled

Brazil’s political infighting took another high-profile victim on Monday when the lower house voted to expel its former speaker Eduardo Cunha for perjury, corruption and obstruction of justice.
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September 13, 2016 6:33pm
- mikenmild
  
  It must take some chutzpah for someone that corrupt to organise the impeachment of other on corruption charges.
  
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  September 13, 2016 6:44pm
RF

I see another special person up on driving charges will be applying for diversion as he once played in a couple of rugby games for Auckland. FFS ….the sad part is that he will be granted this.

Oh to be privileged.

To save wasting the Courts time the Police before arresting anyone, should ask if they are played rugby. If yes they can be released on the spot.
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September 13, 2016 6:42pm
Manolo

Illary on The New York Post's front page:
http://nypost.com/cover/covers-for-september-13-2016/
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September 13, 2016 6:45pm
Stars And Stripes

A tenant who let her dogs urinate throughout a house – despite a no-pets policy – doesn’t have to pay to replace the ruined carpets.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/83991645/landlords-concerned-about-tenancy-tribunal-precedent

This filthy excuse for a human being deserves to be sleeping in a doorway and I hope she is as a house is to good for her.
Proof some people deserve to be homeless.
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September 13, 2016 6:54pm
- mikenmild
  
  This seems to be linked to the court decision about a couple who negligently started a house fire. There seems to be some uncertainty about liability for unintentional damage, but I would have thought repeatedly allowing one’s dogs to foul the carpet is pretty much intentional
  Tenancy Tribunal decisions can be appealed to the district court, I believe.
  
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  September 13, 2016 7:07pm
Icarus

Obama and the Bell Curve.

How political correctness beat science.

http://takimag.com/article/obama_and_emthe_bell_curve_em_steve_sailer/print#axzz4K29rfmpW
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September 13, 2016 7:17pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What do you reckon Hillary’s IQ is?
  Some folks reckon it must be between 145-160 based on her academic record.
  But I reckon it must be considerably lower than that if she was totally unaware that coughing bugs all over the place is pretty foul behaviour.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:00pm
  - Icarus
    
    Her IQ is not the issue. It is her morals and thought processes.
    
    Lots of high IQ people are dysfunctional oddballs unsuited to politics.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:06pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Surely you have to be a dysfunctional oddball (low-high IQ) to be actively involved with politics.
      
      I can’t figure out how anyone could abide sitting in meetings/hearings etc….
      
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      September 13, 2016 8:16pm
      - Icarus
        
        Hillary wants power and control. She will do anything to have it. She gets off on making people suffer.
        
        She is dying now, but is still dangerous.
        
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        September 13, 2016 8:17pm
  - Manolo
    
    You offer the crook Hillary a generous donation and she will adjust her IQ to whatwver you want it to be.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:19pm
Icarus

We need to sink those deep sea oil wells around NZ’s coast before the ice freezes the sea over.

The Antarctic is a close neighbour and we already have ice burgs appearing off our Southern coasts. The time to act against climate change is now. The big freeze is here and NASA has the data.

http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum
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September 13, 2016 7:22pm
- Griff
  
  Its 2016 .
  http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
  gee the sea ice is just below average in the antarctic .
  For the arctic its second lowest on record.
  You really live in a dream world of your own creation.
  
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  September 13, 2016 7:36pm
  - Icarus
    
    Siberian cold front sweeps across Europe, bringing record low temperatures
    
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/9051921/Siberian-cold-front-sweeps-across-Europe-bringing-record-low-temperatures.html
    
    We need to sink those wells and coal mines now people. Climate change is real and its here. Man kind nearly perished in the last Ice Age and we don’t want it happening again !
    
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    September 13, 2016 7:43pm
  - Manolo
    
    Pass the bong, please.
    
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    September 13, 2016 7:46pm
    - Icarus
      
      NASA = Troll
      
      LOL 🙂
      
      Do try harder milky. Its boring when you put so little effort into it.
      
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      September 13, 2016 7:55pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Griff
    Do not feed the troll
    
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    September 13, 2016 7:53pm
All_on_Red

‘For the arctic its second lowest on record.’
You have omitted the word ‘daily’ from that. The article says fourth lowest August since records began, and when was that?
Twisting little liar huh.
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September 13, 2016 7:46pm
- Icarus
  
  It may be too late already. Crop loses from the cold are at record levels. Won’t somebody think of the children !!!
  
  Today, frost is the bane of Tasmania, with devastating frosts this morning likely to wipe out at least half of the State’s fruit crop.
  
  It’s a similar blow to one that’s just hit fruitgrowers in Victoria’s Goulburn Valley.
  
  The industry is now warning Australian consumers to expect much higher prices for products such as apples, cherries and apricots this summer.
  
  http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1766114.htm
  
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  September 13, 2016 7:48pm
- Griff
  
  ROFLMAO
  Old all on red shows his stupidity as usual
  The story you quote nobby give us the date and compare it to todays date.
  In other words you are an idiot who just confirmed how stupid you are.
  first rule of the dunning kruger club
  To be in the club you have to be so stupid that you dont understand why you are in the club.
  Here nobby
  http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph/
  For the arctic its second lowest on record.
  Please tell me which years other than 2012 are lower than right now or admit you are a idiot.
  
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  September 13, 2016 7:55pm
  - Icarus
    
    Oh Griff, you poor little fella. The “Arctic” is a different place to the Antarctic.
    
    The Arctic is doing great as well with Polar Bear numbers Booming.
    
    https://polarbearscience.com/2013/07/15/global-population-of-polar-bears-has-increased-by-2650-5700-since-2001/
    
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    September 13, 2016 7:59pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Liar- it says daily. But you didn’t qualify that did you. Liar
    ‘second lowest daily extent on record.’
    Also it’s taken from 1981 to 2010.
    From your own source.
    Caught lying eh cherry picker and now you play pigeon chess eh liar.
    Sooo funny . Every day you get caught out.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:00pm
  - Icarus
    
    mikenmild
    
    Griff
    Do not feed the troll
    
    Too late milky I think I gut hooked him. Can’t throw him back now 🙂
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:02pm
All_on_Red

What’s the weather doing tomorrow Griff eh
‘Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as weather data or star names, without necessarily having a genuine understanding of the broader topic.’

No understanding huh. Yip, that’d be right. Nutter.
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September 13, 2016 8:06pm
EAD

I’ve just had a scan of all of the controlled (((MSM))) sites worldwide to see if they are covering the uprising of Jihadis in the French prison near Poitiers.

There must be something wrong with my PC as the story doesn’t get a mention anywhere except in the far right, extremist, hate (insert hysterical adjective here) sites Russia Today & Breitbart who are reporting screams coming from inside the burning jail.

How odd.

However, there is extensive MSM coverage of an inteview with a doctor assuring us that Hilary’s cough/allergy/heat exhaustion/pneumonia is nothing to be concerned about whatsoever and that we’re all going to die from melting ice sheets if we don’t go back to the stone age right now.

Just another day in MSM wonderland.
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September 13, 2016 8:12pm
- mikenmild
  
  How would a proper National Socialist government deal with the jihadis, EAD?
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:34pm
  - EAD
    
    I have heard the Jewish Conspiracy theories all my life and used to write them off as “spawn of Nazi” rantings.
    
    Now older I have come to understand the awesome power of media to shape a naïve publics personal realities.
    
    Do you ever wonder for example who National Socialism (even if the so called six miliion were true) is constantly bought up as the ultimate example of evil whereas the Jewish Bolsheviks are barely mentioned?
    
    An inconvenient truth perhaps?
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:48pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I’m just waiting for you to lay out your programme for a ‘modern’ National Socialist government. I’m guessing that lebensraum and ‘resettlement’ might be off the table at first, but surely you could have some wholesome details about kinde, kirche, kuche to sell us.
      
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      September 13, 2016 8:51pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I must admit I am also a little fascinated by those who uptick EAD’s rantings. Would anyone of them care to explain the appeal of the Nazi rants?
      I’m hoping that it’s just a few folks who want to encourage him for entertainment value.
      
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      September 13, 2016 8:54pm
      - nasska
        
        Be fair Mike. We encourage you too! 🙂
        
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        September 13, 2016 9:04pm
      - mikenmild
        
        That’s the charitable interpretation, nasska.
        
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        September 13, 2016 9:10pm
      - GoVege
        
        Probably…
        
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        September 14, 2016 12:03am
Manolo

Syria and Israel battle it out:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-syria-idUSKCN11J0EY

Israel said its aircraft attacked a Syrian army position on Tuesday after a stray mortar bomb struck the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights, and it denied a Syrian statement that a warplane and drone were shot down.
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September 13, 2016 8:43pm
- Icarus
  
  So Israel is siding with ISIS to attack Syria !
  
  At least the Russians are doing the right thing.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:46pm
  - Manolo
    
    The Jewish State is surrounded by barbarians and will do whatever it takes to defend its borders and keep enemies away.
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:48pm
    - Icarus
      
      By attacking ISIS enemies ?
      
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      September 13, 2016 8:52pm
      - rangitoto
        
        They strike back at anyone who attacks them. That has always been their policy.
        
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        September 14, 2016 12:26am
  - EAD
    
    Shhhhhh Icarus,
    
    you’re not supposed to talk about this on Kiwiblog. It destroys people’s geo-political fantasies.
    
    Like the Lavon affair, hotel king David bombing, USS Liberty etc. these are inconvenient truths.
    
    Like Libya, Iraq and now Syria, unprovoked wars are the name of the game in order to cause chaos, create arefugee crisis whose victims get channeled only to the goyim nations (whilat Israel accept zero and the likes of Soros bankroll the exodus) while the ME is emptied leaving Israel to eventually take the land as part of their “Greater Israel” plan.
    
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-for-redrawing-the-middle-east-the-project-for-a-new-middle-east/3882
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:56pm
rightoverlabour

I saw a facebook post on a woman’s excution by Islamic Barbarians. I did not know facebook allowed posts showing elderly woman getting shot through the head by these religios maggots. Not sure if I am allowed to link to the video. Anyway, its disturbing to say the least, and I grew up on a steady diet of necklassing, stonings and other brutality on TV news…
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September 13, 2016 8:47pm
Griff

Gibbering whackos

Liar- it says daily. But you didn’t qualify that did you. Liar

I said 2016 was the second lowest on record .
It was the second lowest extent on record all on red.
That you are wobbling around trying to save face after making an arse of your self…yet again goes with the club membership.
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September 13, 2016 8:47pm
- Icarus
  
  Record Ice, Polar Bears all over the place, crops decimated by cold, and you worry that it is too warm.
  
  Silly Griff.
  
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  September 13, 2016 8:51pm
Griff

Slowly so you understand Kea
I know it is hard for you kea when your spittle runs down the screen after you have repeatedly licked it in a bout of ihc level of dribbling stupidity.
It is 2016 not 2015.
The sea ice extent in the antarctic is below average right now
As it is the peak of the freeze for this year it is very doubtful that it will be anything other than average for 2016.
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September 13, 2016 9:08pm
- Icarus
  
  How very odd you are Ghala.
  
  Calling people after birds and thinking the world is ending because summer came to the Arctic.
  
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