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Manolo

Is our multiculturalist around today?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3783356/Terror-EasyJet-flight-migrant-deported-Venice-screams-Allahu-Akbar-29-times-death-coming-17-times-die-nine-times-shocking-two-hour-frenzy.html

Holidaymakers were forced to endure a terrifying two-hour flight alongside a migrant who repeatedly screamed ‘Allahu Akbar’ and ‘death is coming’ – as it emerged the Home Office is using budget airlines to deport illegal immigrants.
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September 12, 2016 8:01am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Why did the passengers just no beat him into submission? Europeans have gone soft. If this was a Russian airline he would have only got to 3 Alluha Akbars and 2 Death is coming, I guarantee you that.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:05am
  - GoVege
    
    Or a Polynesian one…
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:59pm
    - Icarus
      
      We frown upon that sort or racial generalisation here at KB GoVege.
      
      LOL 🙂
      
      Now get back in the kitchen and cook the man some eggs. (battery hen eggs, not white middle class free range pseudo eggs)
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:04pm
Kimbo

Hillary Clinton abruptly left a September 11 memorial service in New York after suffering a “medical episode”.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11707846

Uh, Oh…

Maybe, just maybe tom hunter and I had better get ready to eat humble pie and apologise to the Trumpistas. Like Harold Macmillan answered when asked “what is the driving force in politics?”

“Events, my dear fellow, events…”
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September 12, 2016 8:05am
- EAD
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/84146925/why-hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign
  
  Lead sentence:
  
  Hillary Clinton falling ill at a memorial service on the 15th anniversary of the September 11 attacks will catapult questions about her health from the ranks of conservative conspiracy theory to perhaps the central debate in the presidential race over the coming days.
  
  It’s beyond paradoy how corrupt the people who control the MSM are. The so called “conspiracy theory” sites I follow have been calling out Hillarys appalling health for months and months and now that over the last week as it has deteriorated very publicly, they’re spinning like mad to cover it up even going so far as to lie about a how hot it was when her knees buckled. That they still have the cheek to call those sites that have been vindicated as 100% correct as “conspiracy sites” just beggars belief.
  
  What this illustration proves is once again that all of the illusive and deceptive ways the media masters try to cover up the truth……it will out in the end.
  
  Whether it’s shilling for their lying sychophant politician puppets or the lies they spew about race/miscegenation/3rd world immigration/feminism/homosexuality/the economy/left vs.
  right/democracy/~~globalist serfdom~~ free trade/freedom etc… the truth will eventually leak out even to those who still believe what the MSM feeds.
  
  I mean, who actually believe what these bastards say anymore?
  
  Viva la revolucion
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:09am
  - EAD
    
    The “medical episode” from a different angle. It looks even worse here – the video’s titled ‘faints’ but it looks like it could be some sort of seizure. She looks as if she’s being propped up on that concrete bollard and quite tellingly none of the security or staffers look shocked or even surprised – almost as if this sort of thing is routine and expected. One guy barely even looks up from his phone – it’s only the two policemen who rush in as if they weren’t expecting it.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11-EAzsGxgQ
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:40am
  - Garbageman
    
    Summed up my thoughts on the matter quite nicely EAD, even their corrupt media cant hide the fact she was staggering around like a drunk, but remember all is not so bad in the world when I read that 3 mongrel mob losers decided to go cliff jumping in a car, so there is always a positive to outweigh the negatives
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:47am
    - Sideoiler
      
      3 mongrel mob losers decided to go cliff jumping in a car,
      
      I heard this on the radio this morning Garbageman, I must say it has put quite a shine on my day.
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:49am
  - Flash
    
    Nobody.
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:41am
- Huevon
  
  The sun is shining on this beautiful morning.
  
  The sickly, corrupt Democratic nominee collapsed in public view.
  
  What a glorious day.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:22am
  - ross411
    
    Do you really want to be the kind of person who capitalises on the illness of others with glee? Really?
    
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    September 12, 2016 11:23am
- tom hunter
  
  Apologise for a SMOD-type event?
  
  I don’t think so, since I (and others opposed to Trump) always said that a terrorist event or something else out of the blue, could swing the election to him.
  
  Ex British PM MacMillian’s famous phrase when asked what he was afraid of:
  
  Events, dear boy, events
  
  UPDATE: Snap, Kimbo!!!!
  
  I must say I enjoyed this though:
  
  The 68-year-old Democratic nominee appeared to faint shortly before 10 a.m. as family members of the 2,977 victims were reading through their names, and minutes before a moment of silence at 9:58 a.m. commemorating the collapse of the South Tower, sources told The Post.
  
  A witness said the former Secretary of State’s knees buckled and she lost a shoe as her security team rushed her to a nearby van.
  
  Clinton left the event so abruptly that she even left behind the pool of reporters assigned to follow her.
  
  The blog that linked to that NYPost article commented:
  
  But remember, the people who have been raising questions about her health are racist, sexist conspiracy theorists.
  
  Snicker!!!!
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:27am
  - Kimbo
    
    A series of major co-ordinated terror events perpetrated on election-eve in Miami, Philadelphia and Cincinnati by a Mexican drug cartel in league with a local jihadist terror cell specifically stating their target was conservative white male heterosexuals might just qualify! 😉
    
    Events such as the seaman’s strike and march down Queen Street on the Friday night before the 1969 New Zealand election probably swung that close one National’s way, just as England losing the 1970 Football World Cup quarter-final swung it a couple of days later to Ted Heath in the UK.
    
    But I’m struggling to recall such a “one-off” tilting the balance in America. It is such a large and diverse place and as you’ve always pointed out the electoral college promotes local issues and it’s hard to see how Clinton has been hurt by the terrorist/lone wolf attacks that occurred in Orlando. The recession of 1992 that catapulted Bill Clinton into was going for months, plus Perot split the vote. Carter had been a disaster in foreign and energy and economic policy for years. Ford was dealing with the fallout from Watergate. Hoover the 3-year long Depression. And Kennedy vs Nixon in 1960 was always close.
    
    Still, if she continues to faint, the question is gonna get asked, and as I’ve always acknowledged, there is no such thing as a “sure thing” in a two-=horse race…
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:57am
- tom hunter
  
  Brutal Tweet on Hillary’s “Stumble”
  
  When you try to roll to Chili’s with the squad after Gameday still shitfaced.
  
  Bwwwwwaaaaahahahahahahahahaha!
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:31am
- Rich Prick
  
  The antihistamines clearly aren’t working.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:36am
  - mara
    
    Nor is the L Dopa for her Parkinson’s disease.
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:11am
- Peter
  
  It’s tiring to stay in human form for long periods.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:50am
Chuck Bird

I am heading up to Auckland to hear the start of week two of the Colin Craig v Jordan Williams trial. It should be very interest.
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September 12, 2016 8:05am
- peterwn
  
  It will be like watching paint dry.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:07am
  - Gabby
    
    But one of them might cry.
    
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    September 12, 2016 7:18pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  You need to get out more I suspect and hearing this case may not really be the answer; just saying
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:09am
- deadrightkev
  
  Why bother? The media and KB narrative to be followed is already quite clear and concrete…
  
  “Craig is guilty of being a silly sausage fundie with a staffer and writing silly love songs”.
  
  What more evidence do you need chucko?
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:26am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Deadrightkev:
    
    I assume you’ve heard of the Kübler-Ross model – also known as the five stages of grief:
    
    1. Denial
    2. Anger
    3. Bargaining
    4. Depression
    5. Acceptance.
    
    Using your previous Kiwiblog comments regarding Colin Craig as a benchmark, it sounds like you’re somewhere between 2 and 3?
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:38am
    - deadrightkev
      
      No it goes like this actually:
      
      1. This was right at the start. I know Colin Craig and like him as a person because I think he is genuine. I think he has his heart in the right place as well which is a start in politics. I don’t accept that he would have an affair with Rachel and I suspect there is a sting going down here.
      
      2. Colin outed himself as Mr X when he did not need to be Mr X in the first place. That was bizarre and I don’t get it. I still cannot find the quote in writing is from Colin that he outed himself. But Colin did not deny it so that is good enough proof of guilt for me. Very disappointed.
      
      3. Then came the poems etc. More bizarre behavior from Colin. More disappointment. I was resigned to the possibility that he and Rachel were working a little too closely for too long but not accepting an affair.
      
      4. Then came the Jordan Williams testimony. It was clearly contrived and way over the top. With saints like Williams who needs Mother Teresa? Colin is clearly guilty of being foolish and displaying poor political party leadership standards.
      
      5. Then came the admission that Williams had not actually seen the texts. They didn’t exist according to Craig. If they exist then Williams must have been able to provide right? I smell a rat and I suspect two of them in cahoots with a third one being female taken for a ride in the ratmobile.
      
      6. Conclusion – Craig has been a fool with a female staffer and let his members down. Political opponents have seized on the opportunity to shut him down once and for all.
      
      If he got to the next election without this scandal blowing he would most likely get over 5% or much much more with the current shit going down in the world.
      
      The two political opponents working on behalf of National being Slater and Williams IMO.
      
      But that theory is so wild and a conspiracy surely?
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:13am
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Pity there’s no “rolling on the floor laughing my ass off hysterically” emoticon.
        This post deserves it.
        
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        September 12, 2016 9:49am
      - ross411
        
        Smacks of wishful thinking and conjecture. About as realistic as Colin’s poetry skills.
        
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        September 12, 2016 11:26am
      - wiseowl
        
        Good summation drk.
        
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        September 12, 2016 5:37pm
deadrightkev

Clinton collapses on the way to her motorcade. It is on video and will come out.

Is this the start of the inevitable end for her vile corrupt life and charade of a campaign?

I live in hope.
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September 12, 2016 8:07am
- waikatogirl
  
  Paul Henry showing Hilary stumbling on their news from 6am this morning.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:11am
  - deadrightkev
    
    I have to say my hear skipped a beat reading your most beautiful comment WG.
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:27am
Captain Mainwaring

There is a strong rumour about that United Future held their AGM over the weekend.
Apparently the venue was a toilet cubicle at the Johnsonville railway station and in the absence of any dissenting voices the bouffanted whore voted himself back in as leader.
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September 12, 2016 8:07am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  A great venue, there will be enough space left for someone to use the toilet for its intended purpose
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:10am
srylands

Seriously?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3781350/Police-force-planning-let-Muslim-officers-wear-BURKAS-attract-ethnic-female-minority-officers-boost-diversity.html
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September 12, 2016 8:07am
- deadrightkev
  
  Just wait until it happens in NZ and Australia.
  
  It is not far away.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:34am
- V
  
  You could probably dress these police in the style of the old police box, complete with Dr Who flashing light on top.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:39am
Paulus Gnome

The Little one on rabid red this morning talking about the ‘homeless’ in our society claiming the ones living in a garage were lucky as there were people living in their cars and some (unspecified) living under a bush.

Given one of the glorious labour party machine recent forays into showing people being homeless has turned out to be people moving or renovating their homes, what are the chances that this bush dweller is not just doing a spot of pruning or a melon returning to their roots??

Show us this person Andrew, give us the back story and tell us why they are living under that bush; tell us more about the mother in a state house who has been evicted for dealing $1200.00 of marijuana per day from ‘our’ house and now is surprised to find she is on the streets.
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September 12, 2016 8:08am
- artemisia
  
  Do ordinary voters really believe there are 40,000 homeless in NZ, and hundreds living in cars? And even if they do believe it, which I doubt, reckon many of them will be thinking – something fishy here. What is stopping these people applying for private rentals like most of the population, including those on low incomes.
  
  Hint – landlords do searches of the Tenancy Tribunal database, reference checks and credit checks.
  
  Hint 2 – get the media involved and social housing application scoots up the list.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:05am
- GoVege
  
  I know a mum who finally got a statehouse then got kicked out of it for operating a tinny house.
  Believe me, the mums aren’t getting the profits.
  It all goes to the gang that “befriended” them after their last partner took off.
  They also get the kids involved in the “family business”: in burglaries and prostitution.
  The state may support mums and children these days (instead of dads) but it just doesn’t provide the friendship and companionship of your friendly neighbourhood gang.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:11am
- Gabby
  
  The Sallys will find them on their Puller Patrols.
  
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  September 12, 2016 7:26pm
Paulus

The suggestion put to me at a dinner on Saturday is that the Government are quite happy to see Goff inherit Auckland, as it is better to have somebody you dislike there.
It is easier to have it that way rather than a more right winger Mayor, who will have a left wing Council anyway. In such circumstances a more right wing Mayor would be continually brought down by the Councillors and the council staff.
After all it is the staff who run thing to their agenda anyway.
They do not care whether Councillors come and go every three years – their empire continues to generate anyway.
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September 12, 2016 8:08am
- alloytoo
  
  and the resulting by-election further drains labours coffers
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:54am
All_on_Red

Video here
http://order-order.com/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-medical-episode-911-memorial/

I think it’s looking a bit ominous the way Hillary is now travelling around in a Hearse
Although the fluffers at MSNBC say she ‘left early to be polite’ hahahahahahaha
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September 12, 2016 8:10am
- stephieboy
  
  Share with us what it is like to be a ” deplorable ” a turn of phrase that rings so true of typical Trumpistas like you.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:22am
  - deadrightkev
    
    I’m not one to dump on anyone while they are down.
    
    But as it is Hillary Clinton and knowing the massive damage she and her ilk would inflict on the global community I will indulge myself just a little whimper of excitement.
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:29am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Lol at Pervyboy calling others deplorable
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:30am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Hillary regrets referring to folks as “deplorables”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/10/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-donald-trump
    
    Perhaps she’s learning that it’s never wise to label folks you’ve never met with demeaning names.
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:32am
    - Gabby
      
      At least she remembers.
      
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      September 12, 2016 7:28pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Look everyone, stephie has discovered a new word and is very proud. He still struggles with getting the punctuation in the right place though. Perhaps he’ll learn that new trick tomorrow.
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:45am
  - mara
    
    Is Stephie an adorable deplorable? Or not.
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:23am
stigie

Why isn’t Penny Bright’s house sold yet to pay her rates..? Why are the Auckland Council fucking around after 9 years !~
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September 12, 2016 8:11am
- GoVege
  
  Patience, stigie.
  They will get it in the end.
  Let Penny enjoy her twilight years.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:58am
  - stigie
    
    Another 9 years GoVeg, the bludger will be 71..?
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:09am
    - GoVege
      
      She’s a lot older than that isn’t she?
      In any case, property values keep on rising…
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:13am
      - peterwn
        
        1. Council officers are unlikely to act before the election. They do not want to fuel the fire and do not want an electoral martyr.
        2. She will cough up just before the hammer falls.
        
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        September 12, 2016 9:43am
      - sooty
        
        She lokks 93.
        
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        September 12, 2016 12:17pm
Captain Mainwaring

TV1 poll due out tonight.
Will this be a wake-up call for JK, a walk the plank call for Angry Andy, or another dose of formalin for the drunken dwarf?
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September 12, 2016 8:12am
- deadrightkev
  
  Seriously Cappo?
  
  After almost three terms “a wake up call”? Good grief man. JK is a fake and has been from day one.
  
  The problem for you and KS and co is that you need to admit you have been taken in and work hard toward stopping the other progressives in the National party from being elected as leader.
  
  Oh thats right, they are all progressives. Shit.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:31am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Trouble is deadrightkev, economic growth is up from 2.8 to 3.6. Most of the population is out spending money because they are feeling good about the economy.
    Whatever you think, life is pretty good after a very deep recession.
    Key will keep smiling, the people will keep spending and National will win the next election.
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:40am
    - deadrightkev
      
      Very true and perceptive of you.
      
      Above the line the economy is showing all is well, move along nothing to see here, but under the surface there is serious flaws in the NZ economy that will come home to roost for the next government after National whoever that may be.
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:23am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Quite so waikatogirl. And with election year coming up, I might actually get around to joining the National Party again, especially given that DRK thinks I am such an important and influential person in the party.
      
      And why would One News depart from their normal practice of releasing the political poll on Sunday, followed up with the issues-based stuff over the days that follow? I suggest that if the poll was that bad for National, Katie Bradford and Corin Dann would have been screaming it from the rooftops last night, instead of trying to beat up the immigration angle.
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:32am
- Rich Prick
  
  It will be interesting to see whether Mr 7% goes sub-prime.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:39am
Simon

Weekend at Hillary’s.

No MSM vid of fainting sick Hillary all private citizens.

Fainting at a 9/11 memorial after abusing 25% of Americans. Mr. Farrar’s queen is an alpha mong.
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September 12, 2016 8:19am
- stephieboy
  
  As I’ve said what is wrong in describing Trumpistas like you as ” deplorable ” ?
  
  Why Hilary thought she had to withdraw such a truthful remark is beyond me .
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:25am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Simple Simon met a pieman going to the fair.
  Said the pieman to Simple Simon:
  
  “You’re not making sense again.”
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:26am
fernglas

While it is appallling that 136 people should be living in cars and tents awaiting rehousing, this is a far cry from the thousands of homeless Labour have been banging on about for months. That’s a big credibility gap.
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September 12, 2016 8:21am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Indeed; 136 is a fair few fewer than the figure of 40,000 “homeless” being touted by Labour, the Greens and the Maori Party.
  
  Talk of a “housing crisis” has been a political beat-up, largely enabled by a compliant news media. Sure, house prices are up, but that’s good news for those of us who actually own homes. Sure, it’s hard to get into your first home, but it’s not impossible if you make it a priority.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:36am
- rangitoto
  
  I saw one of these cases first hand as a juror. Broken marriage due to drug use, then small time selling, big falling out with supplier, evicted by landlord, new BF pays for motel until money runs out, then move into car. That was the “happy” part of the story. Thankfully she had lost custody of the children at step one.
  
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  September 12, 2016 12:13pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/84147813/mo-farahs-wife-claims-olympic-champ-was-humiliated-at-american-airport

“Waah Racism!”

*No Wait- Turns out Farah and his wife were being complete wankers!
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September 12, 2016 8:24am
Nostradamus

Whaleoil quotes from a paywalled NBR article by Bob Jones:

There’s another fail-safe test. If you can spot pretty girls over 20 or young blokes in suits in their late 20s to early 30s in a town then its current prospects remain hopeful. Otherwise, both categories have fled to the big cities. As a keen student of such matters, only Dunedin gets a tick, that is if one categorises it as a provincial city. Try finding a pretty girl over 20 or a young bloke in a suit in say Wanganui or Timaru and you will look in vain.

Come in Keeping Stock?
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September 12, 2016 8:27am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Plenty of attractive young women here Nostradamus, but the relaxed lifestyle here isn’t really conducive to suits. Most of the people I do business with around town are more the open-necked shirt types who still dress smartly, but slightly less formally.
  
  Interestingly, we held a Great Ball here recently as a fundraiser for the local Women’s Refuge. It was a spectacular success, and those of us who attended dressed up to the nines, but for most of us it was a novelty. Certainly it was the first time for many years I have worn a bow tie and stand-up collar. But lil’ ol’ Whanganui raised $90,000 for the Refuge, everyone behave with decorum, and we all dressed smart-casually again on the Monday afterwards.
  
  Maybe Sir Bob needs to get out more.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:42am
  - VicParking
    
    Get off Bastia Hill and come down to Gonville.
    Havent seen a suit that has not been going to or coming from the Court house in yonks.
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:06pm
- Gabby
  
  The Bobber’s gone blind from too much wanking.
  
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  September 12, 2016 7:36pm
dime

Hows Hillary today?

Do we know if she has passed out or fallen over?*

*Just a daily question Dime asks.

Poor sick old lady. the MSM will no doubt post a small story and move on.

Wonder if Dem voters are starting to research her VP nomminee.
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September 12, 2016 8:37am
stephieboy

Trump of all people had the nerve to attend the 9/11 commemorations after this kind of revelation not to speak of his other scurrilous claims ,

9/11: Donald Trump ‘lied about using $150,000 to help small businesses’ after terror attacks
The aim of the government program was to help small businesses get back on their feet

“,Presidential candidate Donald Trump allegedly used $150,000 (£113,000) of government funds after the September 11 attacks for cleaning and repair costs rather than helping local small businesses.

The Republican said several times during the presidential campaign trail that he was awarded the sum for helping others after terrorists took down the Twin Towers in Manhattan, but according to an investigation by the New York Post, he claimed the taxpayers’ money for “rent loss”, clean-up and repair costs for his nearby skyscraper on Wall Street.

The discovery was made through documents obtained from the Empire State Development Corporation, which carried out the recovery programme after 9/11….”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/911-anniversary-donald-trump-lied-150000-small-businesses-skyscraper-clean-up-repair-costs-a7236766.html
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September 12, 2016 8:37am
- AgentBallSack
  
  You should visit stephie. With luck you will be torn limb from limb by an angry mob conversant with your commentary.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:46am
- EAD
  
  F.O Stephieboy with your inane ramblings,
  
  there is a rather big elephant in the room up thread on Clinton’s health as another “conspiracy theory” has become “conspiracy fact”.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:47am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD , possibly but that does not make for example the 9/11 attacks a conspiracy now does it ?
    
    Do you also believe Trump when he claimed thousands of Muslims cheered the attacks from across the Hudson ?
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:51am
    - Inandout
      
      Give it up mate, Hillary’s a goner. This fact may cause a ripple throughout the Muslim world but they will just have to get over it. The MSM can’t suppress this event and their deluge of hateful articles on Trump that you habitually highlight will more and more fall on deaf ears.
      The biggest fear is that Obama may arrange a delay on the election, or declare a state of emergency.
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:09am
  - Nostradamus
    
    EAD:
    
    Pete George has written an interesting blog post entitled Are lazy journalists drug addled?
    
    I say “interesting blog post” because Pete shows how Jessica Mutch (on Q&A) interviewed three people and repeatedly pursued a line of questioning that (to use a neutral descripton) stated the government position incorrectly. A less charitable description would be “she made shit up”.
    
    Pete concludes:
    
    I don’t think journalists like Espiner and Mutch are lazy or drug addled, but they appear to me to be misrepresenting what politicians have said, seemingly determined to make stories that are inaccurate and unjustified.
    
    There are important issues around work ethics, immigrant workers, exploitation of workers and unemployment. These have been poorly served by this coverage.
    
    Journalistic standards continue to decline.
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:03am
    - Garbageman
      
      Well there is a reason they consistently rank lower than politicians & used car sales people every year, filthy lying duplicitous muck raking fkwits full of their own self importance and arrogance, the forth estate a once proud contributor to society reduced to trawling facebook twitter and imgur for our daily drivel
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:37am
    - Icarus
      
      “Pete George has written an interesting blog post”
      
      Bwwwwaaaahahahahaha 🙂
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:10pm
- mikenmild
  
  Trump’s main reaction on 9/11 (apart from imagining he saw people cheering) was happiness – his building was now the tallest in Lower Manhattan:
  https://twitter.com/ScottyLiterati/status/774895778817073152
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:32am
  - tom hunter
    
    Not like you to be so bitter, mikenmild. I thought you said that America deserves a President Trump?
    
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    September 12, 2016 10:07am
    - mikenmild
      
      Absolutely. Mencken’s dream
      
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      September 12, 2016 11:35am
Tom Barker

“The so called “conspiracy theory” sites I follow….”

Keep following those conspiracy theory sites, EAD. They’ll tell you everything you want to know. Whether any of it is remotely true is quite another matter.
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September 12, 2016 8:47am
skyblue

From a newspaper that is reliable, Daily Express. Clinton has not long on earth as she has advanced vascular dementia.
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=clinton%20vascular
Add today’s ‘slip’ adds weight to the argument as it can be seen. Leighton is going on about this video also. Food for thought.

I am not into conspiracy as a rule but with a science background I like to make a judgement on the facts as I see them. With all of the shots of Clinton having blankouts/stumbles etc, it is clear she is not as well as the mainstream media (CNN/MSNBC etc) try to make out.
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September 12, 2016 8:53am
- stephieboy
  
  Whatever Hillary may suffer from the time has come as this Washington Post report suggests for her to come out with a fuller medical disclosure .
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/
  
  Even if she had to withdraw for any reason all is not lost as it would not take much to beat such an inept candidate as Trump !
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:03am
artemisia

Have to wonder about the yoof of today. Most not enrolled to vote, and from a student meeting media reports were – basically – I have no idea what it is all about. And don’t care anyway. And even if they do care they are too busy and stressed.

I get that they are not too interested, but it is not hard to find information if they make some minimum effort. Your average young person has some excuse for the attitude I suppose, but I would have expected a bit more from those being tertiary educated.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/313089/young-voters-feel-locked-out-of-local-body-politics
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September 12, 2016 8:55am
- Nostradamus
  
  Artemisia:
  
  There are two interesting aspects to your linked article.
  
  Laura O’Connell-Rapira is the founder of youth-led voting organisation Rock Enrol.
  …
  Ms O’Connell-Rapira said the government needed to put more money into community-led voting programmes. She said Rock Enrol helped turn out 3.5 percent of the youth vote at the 2014 general election and was run on budget of $15,000.
  
  There’s nothing to stop Laura O’Connell-Rapira from fundraising for her political cause. She could set up a Give A Little page or something. But, no, she wants everyone to be forced (through government taxation) to pay for her political cause instead.
  
  A recent Auckland University-led mayoral debate drew a crowd of just 40 students, a reflection of the low turnout of younger voters in local elections.
  
  The event details are here. I find it amusing – in a LMAO way – that one of the “debate partners” was Transparency International New Zealand.
  
  Penny has previously described the Transparency International Corruption Perception Index as “not worth the paper upon which it is written” and “arguably worthless”.
  
  I assume, then, that Penny was a no-show for the mayoral debate? I mean, with only 40 votes up for grabs, it wouldn’t have been a good use of her scarce campaign resources!
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:37am
  - ross411
    
    Good man. I’ve said the same thing many times, if whoever finds whatever it is so important, why don’t they put their money where their mouth is. The calls that we should pay for something the caller finds important, when the caller won’t pay until we pay, are too frequent.
    
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    September 12, 2016 11:44am
Happychappy

Big day in the garden yesterday just about all planted tomatoes and couple of other plants to put in. I wonder if the needy have put or will start a garden or are they counting on the state to continue with more handouts.We have heard about the baby boomers being selfish but most were taught work ethic and how to grow fresh food for their family so its about time some of these lazy a/hs did somethink to keep their families in healthy food instead expecting the government to do it for them
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September 12, 2016 9:16am
- ross411
  
  There was a story on some news show (Campbell Live?) where some family had a garden and chickens on their backyard. Turns out their land had been polluted in the past use for business, and the wife I think was dying of cancer. Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
  
  But I agree, this should be encouraged. Community gardens seem to be getting common as well, but it’s probably only serving those who were interested in the first place.
  
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  September 12, 2016 11:45am
Ed Snack

Hillary’s “stumble” explained. Apparently it is a massive allergy attack; wearing a human skin for too long in the heat can badly affect the metabolism of a lizard overlord.
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September 12, 2016 9:19am
- Garbageman
  
  Ahhh that will explain why she has her gob wide open most of the time, heat dissipation is a serious business for reptiles
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:50am
Stars And Stripes

NZ labelled international embarrassment over youth court age
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/313075/nz-labelled-international-embarrassment-over-youth-court-age
“New Zealand is being labelled an international embarrassment for continuing to put 17-year-olds on trial as adults.”

Same old hand wingers like Becroft and the UN having a moan session again against the injustice of the whole thing.
As far as I’m concerned with the seriousness of crimes being committed by youth these days the age should be lowered to about 13 so the full weight of the law an be applied instead of useless family group conferences and other PC nonsense.
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September 12, 2016 9:35am
- Happychappy
  
  Stars and Stripes@9.35am
  Look at the age of these shop armed robberies and some are 13,fourteen and fifteen with weapons and as my dad used to say,”do the crime then do the time” so if they want to play with fire they deserve to get burnt.The problem is these kids hold no respect for their parents or any any older people so they will not change
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:53am
- mandk
  
  Whatever else Andrew Becroft might be, he is not a hand-wringer.
  
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  September 12, 2016 10:04am
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    I disagree.
    
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    September 12, 2016 7:23pm
- ross411
  
  You are peddling that old guff about personal responsibility? Please.
  
  Next you will be telling me we are providing breakfasts to children in primary schools, because parents can’t be bothered to feed their children and we don’t expect them to do any parenting! How ridiculous! 😆
  
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  September 12, 2016 11:48am
tom hunter

And since today is actually the “anniversary” – in the sense that this is the morning most New Zealanders woke up to hear and see the news – it’s time to put up the link to one of the most poignant stories of the disaster. Esquire’s beautifully written, ineffably sad piece on The Falling Man:

In the picture, he departs from this earth like an arrow. Although he has not chosen his fate, he appears to have, in his last instants of life, embraced it. If he were not falling, he might very well be flying.
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September 12, 2016 9:37am
- tom hunter
  
  And a downtick already!! Alright!!!
  
  Probably the same person active on the Jono Lomo thread and other RIP’s.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:44am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    In the words of the ineffable Taylor Swift, (TayTay to her friends) Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate.
    
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    September 12, 2016 10:26am
Manolo

The lovely religion of peace:
http://www.foreigndesknews.com/world/middle-east/eve-911-anniversary-al-qaeda-threatens-attacks/

Al Qaeda’s media wing Al Sahab released the video online featuring the group’s current leader Ayman Al Zawahiri in a 20-minute address to Al Qaeda loyalists along with archived footage of the group’s former leader Osama Bin Laden.

“As long as your crimes continue, the events of 9/11 will be repeated thousands of times, by the will of Allah. And we will follow you – if you don’t cease your aggression [against us] – until the Day of Judgment…, ” he says.
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September 12, 2016 9:42am
- Morrissey
  
  So, Manolo, the question you need to ask yourself is this: Why are the United States and its vassal states like Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand, supporting, both rhetorically and militarily, Al Qaeda in Syria?
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:59am
Keeping Stock

Whaddya reckon about this Stephieboy, given that the polls were taken BEFORE Clinton’s “deplorables” slur, and her collapse this morning?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/poll-clinton-trump-deadlock-in-4-battleground-states-228000
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September 12, 2016 9:48am
Morrissey

The spirit of Ali, Smith and Carlos continues. American athletes are saying:
I can’t stand the crassness and hypocrisy, and, no, I won’t stand for the Anthem.

Increasingly, thoughtful American athletes—yes, there are a few of them—are refusing to participate in the obscene glorification of the military that precedes so many sporting events there. ….

http://deadspin.com/they-shouldn-t-play-the-national-anthem-before-sporting-1786377832
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September 12, 2016 9:50am
- Nostradamus
  
  FFS – and I suppose you think national anthems shouldn’t be played at Olympic medal ceremonies either?
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:58am
  - Morrissey
    
    I don’t mind them, just as I don’t mind people of principle dissenting. But then I believe in freedom of speech.
    
    You?
    
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    September 12, 2016 10:01am
    - Nostradamus
      
      You mean this kind of freedom of speech (from your linked article):
      
      So I’ll go ahead and confess here that I have disrespected the anthem. I have gone to piss during the anthem. I have whispered. I have purchased beer. I have not always removed my hat. I have almost certainly checked my phone while watching the anthem on TV.
      …
      So, with that out of the way, I have a different anthem in mind for Week 1 of the 2016 season. I am not interested in patriotism or loyalty or any of those things at the moment. I am interested only in WAR, and BLOOD, and FUCKING BIG FAT HITS THAT WILL PROBABLY DRAW A FLAG BUT ARE STILL KINDA COOL ANYWAY. I need something that will make me wanna go out and steal lots of beer and smash lots of car windows. GIMME TORO GIMME SOME MORE, GIMME TORO GIMME SOME MORE!
      
      The guy seems to have a few screws loose but, as you say, let’s not deny him the right to make a jassass of himself.
      
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      September 12, 2016 10:05am
      - tom hunter
        
        Nostradamus
        You need to understand that types like Morrissey live vicariously through idiots like that. If only Morrissey’s gestures and protests carried the same meaning as those performed by oppressed Blacks worth $11.5 million in White America.
        
        For Morrissey it will always be 1968.
        
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        September 12, 2016 10:11am
      - Morrissey
        
        The people with a “few screws loose” are the hapless, mouth-breathing “jassasses” who put up with all that North Korean-style flag-waving and military worship.
        
        By the way, what on earth IS a “jassass”?
        
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        September 12, 2016 10:13am
      - Morrissey
        
        For Morrissey it will always be 1968.
        
        Oh, tom, if only it could be 1968 every day…
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZSvLy-W_Uw
        
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        September 12, 2016 10:17am
      - Nostradamus
        
        Morrissey:
        
        Yes, well done, I mistyped “jassass” when I meant “jack-ass”.
        
        As for the dictionary definition:
        
        jack-ass
        [jak-as]
        noun
        1. a male donkey.
        2. a contemptibly foolish or stupid person; dolt; blockhead; ass.
        
        Hope that helps.
        
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        September 12, 2016 10:19am
Manolo

The way stephieboy’s mates dispense Allah’s “justice”:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/inside-isis-courtroom-complete-human-8811772

Defendants at the building in the Iraqi city of Fallujah were locked up in tiny, iron cages before being hauled before extremist ‘judges’ for trials.

Horrifically, these cramped cages were built in different shapes – so the men and women inside them were forced to either stand, kneel or curl up.
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September 12, 2016 10:05am
- ross411
  
  How dare you question the word of Allah! I will be putting you on the list for when the tipping point of immigration leads to the violent muslim revolution we all know is coming. Infidel 😆
  
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  September 12, 2016 11:50am
Morrissey

Anybody see the humiliation of Ann Coulter on Comedy Central?

Yesterday on TMZ live, Ann Coulter blamed her instantly legendary bombing at The Comedy Central Roast of Rob Lowe on editing. But Coulter’s set was so horribly unfunny and incompetently delivered that her excuse reads like more of the same truth-bending she often calls on to support her political arguments. …

http://themuse.jezebel.com/roastmaster-jeff-ross-the-roast-was-edited-to-make-ann-1786325303
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September 12, 2016 10:10am
- ross411
  
  Yes, I saw it. They all get their jokes written for them. She was wooden, but did okay, considering what she got written for her.
  
  The other comics had all the best lines. Also, the audience was completely against her and was 100% into the shitting on she got from the other comics. Poor bitch, she got used as a punching bag and got some token limp jokes for her bit. The audience did laugh, but it would have been hard to get past the hate that was present anyway. It was kind of painful to watch her get booed and hated on, and I was suprised she didn’t get the hell out of there.
  
  Also, for a country that puts people that have sex with under-18’s on sex offender lists, it was surprising that everyone loved the jokes about Rob Lowe’s underage sex video (with a 16 year old) so much. I guess things work differently for celebrities and some crimes aren’t crimes when they do them,
  
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  September 12, 2016 11:52am
  - ross411
    
    I was wrong.
    
    Apparently, they had great jokes lined up for her to capitalise on the shitting on her the others did, to make her likeable. She refused to do them and did her own thing and showed off her book.
    
    So she dug her own hole.
    
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    September 12, 2016 2:57pm
Stars And Stripes

Indian community leaders have warned of a backlash because Indian students are increasingly running into problems including prostitution, crime, and exploitation by employers.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/313070/struggling-indian-students-turn-to-crime,-leaders-warn

No surprises really, if you bring poor third world students here in large numbers they are bound to end up on the street corners in Mt Roskill.
Be warned though if you go for the cheap nooky that some are not toilet trained.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/84080916/Indias-government-is-now-shaming-people-into-using-toilets
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September 12, 2016 10:21am
- stephieboy
  
  Stars and Stipes , I found your comments yesterday and apologia for Indonesia in respect of East Timor and Western New Guinea-Irian Jaya fascinating .
  
  Could it be given Indonesia is an Islamic nation that if we dig a little deeper we might find lurking inside you a deep Islamist ?
  
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  September 12, 2016 11:54am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    You found it fascinating did you?
    Is that in the same way that you find women in hijabs with children in the park or at St Lukes fascinating?.
    
    As for Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, East Timor, Irian Jaya, Solomon Islands and others savages in this area,they can do whatever they like as long as they don’t expect Western soldiers to come and save there useless asses when they butcher each other and also expect us to pay to look after their fetid little dreams of statehood for the next 50 years.
    
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    September 12, 2016 12:30pm
    - mikenmild
      
      It’s a great shame that the European powers went to so much trouble to help these countries by conquering and colonising them, only to have the ungrateful wretches throw it all away.
      
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      September 12, 2016 12:43pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        Yes the civilized powers of the world did their best to tame the savages but this was one challenge even they were not up too as the barbarians have proved time and time again they are ungovernable and beyond help.
        Better to let the inevitable bloodbath happen then when they eventually get tired of killing each other order will probably eventuate.
        
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        September 12, 2016 12:55pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I guess the big mistake was being too merciful and allowing too many of the natives to remain alive.
        
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        September 12, 2016 1:06pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        milky, re your 1:06 pm – I was intending to say that helping others never pays – it always causes trouble, but I mistakenly hit the “report” button in this new-fangled interface. So let that be a lesson to you!!
        
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        September 12, 2016 6:29pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Necessity MM not mercy.
      Someone had to be left alive to clean the toilets and wash the clothes as no reasonable person could expect the colonisers to do that.
      
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      September 12, 2016 1:18pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Stars and Stripes , address the issue ! Do your undoubted sympathies for Indonesia hide a closeted Muslim ?
        
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        September 12, 2016 1:50pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      If we are taking nominations for the dumbest comment of the year I would like to nominate the one above at 1.50pm.
      
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      September 12, 2016 2:21pm
Tauhei Notts

I read that a burglar, armed with a knife entered the BP service station at Ngaruawahia at 12.15 a.m. and stole some smokes.
You don’t need an OSH expert to tell you that retailing cigarettes at 12.15 a.m. is a high risk occupation and locked doors are essential. But it was Ngaruawahia, for Christ’s sake. If God was ever going to give the world an enema he would insert it at Ngaruawahia. The employer must be charged with providing an unsafe environment for his employees.
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September 12, 2016 10:33am
- thedavincimode
  
  Ngaruawahia, the sphincter for the bowel of Huntly. Gosh, that was a bit gratuitous – where did that come from? Of course, the Tuku Morgan article today ..
  
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  September 12, 2016 6:33pm
Manolo

Making fun of the poor Boks:
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4236/6913/original.jpg
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September 12, 2016 11:19am
big bruv

Another classic display of NZ rugby arrogance from Manolo.
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September 12, 2016 11:50am
- Manolo
  
  You are mistaken, dear bruv. I found it in a South African rugby blog (rugby365.com) and conveys the Bok fans’ disappointment with their team.
  
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  September 12, 2016 12:00pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Heh; big bruv walked right into that one; well done Manolo!
    
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    September 12, 2016 12:58pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Wot a sad git you are bruvvie.
  
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  September 12, 2016 6:35pm
wreck1080

MSD have been ordered by a judge to protect their staff.

Basically, to do that properly will require several billion a year , i reckon.

Private security guards for every employer, beefed up buildings, bullet proofing.

Employees will require bullet proof cars, etc etc etc.

Maybe the judge will be happy then?

How on earth can you protect employees especially when they are able to walk around in public?
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September 12, 2016 12:05pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Burka-clad women attack Kenyan Police station
https://www.rt.com/news/358974-attack-kenya-police-terrorism/
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September 12, 2016 12:14pm
Keeping Stock

Stan Warwinka outlasts Novak Djokovic to win the US Open Men’s Singles in four sets. Kudos to both players for an epic final, and especially Djokovic who was very gracious in defeat.
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September 12, 2016 12:24pm
Fletch

I posted this on another thread, but – Obama has had a parasitic worm named after him. I find it somehow fitting.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientist-gives-president-obama-dubious-honor-names-parasite-baracktrema-obamai/
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September 12, 2016 1:37pm
- mikenmild
  
  He also has a dinosaur named after him – Obamadon – and a fish and a worm:
  http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2012/12/12/obamadon-lizard-offers-preview-names-come/E1kwVLFHMSVqQe0VZGA3DL/story.html
  
  Better than the Coolidge Effect, I suppose:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect
  
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  September 12, 2016 1:43pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Now I’m all jealous – maybe they could name a dinosaur after me, and call it – Thekiwidon – . Some think I already am. 😉
    
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    September 12, 2016 2:20pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , the devout and virtuous Catholic you no doubt are ( sarc ) this Donald Trump Caterpillar takes a beating ,
  
  https://www.thedodo.com/donald-trump-caterpillar-hair-1206147966.html
  
  Note it’s hairs are known to be venomous .!
  
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  September 12, 2016 1:46pm
- Manolo
  
  I pity the poor worm.
  
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  September 12, 2016 3:04pm
Stars And Stripes

Kiwi dads’ Facebook support group takes off
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11704483

“A Facebook group called Kiwi Daddys is being lauded as the “good gang” – creating a non-judgmental space for dads to come together and discuss issues facing Kiwi men.”

So anyone out there who is a chronic jerker, serial peeper or is finding the family dog attractive you can now go to this non judgemental space and no one is going to laugh at you.
Promise!!!!!.
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September 12, 2016 1:45pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  I wonder if Kiwiblogs favourite dad, Dad4Justice hangs out at this new place.
  
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  September 12, 2016 2:07pm
  - stigie
    
    Don’t know if he has a dog KS..?
    
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    September 12, 2016 5:09pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Unlikely – no toilets involved.
    
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    September 12, 2016 6:36pm
Manolo

Nothing to worry about, EAD tells me:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/11/asia-stock-markets-to-focus-on-fed-expectations-lower-oil-prices-china-data.html

Asian shares tumbled on Monday after a sharply lower finish for major U.S. indexes on Friday amid concerns central banks will become less accomodative.

Down Under, ASX 200 was down 2.25 percent, weighed heavily by the energy sector, which was down 3.62 percent, the materials subindex, which shed 3.18 percent, and the financials sector, which was lower by 2.23 percent.
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September 12, 2016 3:03pm
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@Stars & Stripes
Yesterday I had lunch in the food court at Manukau City and was frankly amazed at the league of nations this community has become.
There were burka clad women with their families, men in turbans, african people in colorful clothing, young Asians socialising and hundreds of Polynesian families dressed in their best Sunday church clothing. The place was packed with families enjoying lunch and the numerous languages being spoken were a wonder to behold. It was a lovely sunny day outside and the vibe in the mall was pleasant. Retailers were doing a roaring trade and although commentators lament the poverty in South Auckland there is no doubt in my view that there are plenty of people doing o.k. and that the demographic profile of South Auckland has irrevocably changed for the better.
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September 12, 2016 3:21pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  A post especially for me.
  I am deeply humbled Kevin H.
  I can only assume you are either a dedicated fan of mine or think that I am a nasty bigot who needs educating a bit.
  Either way that’s cool as all opinions are welcome.
  
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  September 12, 2016 3:32pm
- Reid
  
  Did you ask for a show of hands on how many were spending OPM? That’s the real diversity dividend behind the gay costumes.
  
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  September 12, 2016 3:54pm
- Nostradamus
  
  KevinH:
  
  Yesterday I had lunch in the food court at Manukau City and was frankly amazed at the league of nations this community has become.
  
  Did Stephieboy pay for his lunch or were you left with the bill?
  
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  September 12, 2016 4:10pm
  - wiseowl
    
    Hastings had their blossom festival on Saturday and it was like the United Nations with bands and weird music from every place.
    
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    September 12, 2016 6:49pm
- Jack5
  
  Kevin H, your 3.21 post includes this:
  
  …there is no doubt in my view that … the demographic profile of South Auckland has irrevocably changed for the better.
  
  That is racist. If you repeat it, changing “better” for “worse” you will see why. You are saying a previously white-Maori population is inferior to the present new coloured, multicultural population.
  
  Tsk, tsk.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:15pm
Manolo

30,000! Thirty bloody thousand!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3784688/At-30-0000-men-close-Sydney-road-outside-Lakemba-Mosque-four-hours-offer-Eid-Al-Adha-prayer-mark-end-Mecca-pilgrimage.html

Tens of thousands of Muslims have gathered at Lakemba Mosque in Sydney to honour a man’s willingness to sacrifice his only son in God’s name. Muslim residents caused road closures outside Lakemba Mosque, in Sydney’s south-west, as they participated in the Eid Al Adha prayer, which marks the end of the annual pilgrimage or Hajj to the Saudi holy city of Mecca.

Between 20,000 and 30,000 men and women were pictured standing stoically on prayer mats laid across Wangee Road, which was closed between 5am and 9am, with sounds of prayers echoing through the streets as an Imam lead the service from inside the mosque.
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September 12, 2016 4:20pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Clearly, Sydney is now a part of Dar el Islam.
  Sorry about that Oz – you are Islamified and about to join the great jihad against the Christian and Atheist West.
  Goodbye Oz. 🙁
  
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  September 12, 2016 5:43pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Don’t worry Don, your turn for the same festival – worshipping Abraham, is coming up next month.
    
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    September 12, 2016 6:50pm
- sam green
  
  That bloody Christmas parade is getting really annoying too.
  
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  September 12, 2016 7:25pm
Reid

Joseph Thomas cleverly uses this RAND report to challenge any justifiable motives for US aggression in Asia other than to create and exploit political destabilization, which has the dual bonus of channeling competitive infrastructure spending into needed defense expenditures, which can have a short lifespan on a bad day.

He has a wonderful quote at the end which I will share with you now: “The US promises only instability and confrontation for the next decade, and is even openly preparing for a war it admits will devastate the region. It is a war that will only be fought because the US refuses to withdraw from a region it has no legitimate claim to in the first place.”

http://journal-neo.org/2016/09/05/behind-rands-us-china-war-plans/
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September 12, 2016 5:17pm
Stars And Stripes

Rich-lister’s son who punched officer gets community work
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11708277
“A rich-lister’s son Nikolas James Posa Delegat (19) who punched a female police officer in the head several times has been sentenced to do 300 hours community work.”

This nasty piece of work is lucky he did not end up in prison because there he might have discovered that there are other uses for his old mans wine bottles which he would not have found so entertaining.
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September 12, 2016 5:57pm
- Jack5
  
  It looks as though the case went seriously near name suppression, too.
  
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  September 12, 2016 7:06pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Jim Delegat is a great guy who doesn’t deserve this.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:53pm
Happychappy

So Andrew Little is not happy with the One News Colmar Poll and has called it a rogue poll.
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September 12, 2016 6:13pm
- stigie
  
  The Stranded won’t be happy either Happychappy, they are flat out pulling their hair out and saying what a great leader they have going from 7 to 10% or will it be a wankfest..?
  
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  September 12, 2016 6:24pm
  - nasska
    
    By nine tonight they’ll probably form a choir & sing the Red Flag stigie.
    
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    September 12, 2016 6:34pm
    - stigie
      
      Reminds me of them having that songfest Nasska in that red axe the tax bus touring up and down the country singing stupid songs. Bloody pathetic and people vote for these people..?
      
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      September 12, 2016 7:13pm
  - RF
    
    I see the useless sack of shite from the standard known as Micky Savage is trying to boost Angry Andrews ratings by saying don’t worry about the rogue poll as little is up 3%.
    
    This is the expert on family trusts. Dear god.
    
    No wonder he is very unpopular.
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:34pm
- thedavincimode
  
  He conducted a poll of his own knob and came in at 100%.
  
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  September 12, 2016 6:39pm
  - nasska
    
    That would have taken some manipulation of the knob Davinci. 🙂
    
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    September 12, 2016 6:42pm
    - Griff
      
      Torture
      He choked it until it spewed nasska
      
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      September 12, 2016 6:53pm
Jack5

John Key is about to announce new legislation related to family violence.

Let’s hope this helps, but spare us from international-comparison bullshit that is already under way, such as this in the Hooerald previewing the changes:

New Zealand has the highest reported rate of intimate partner violence in the developed world.

This obviously goes back to the report from some UN group five years ago. It covered just nine countries, and NZ was second bottom to Finland on one ranking and ranked bottom but just under Norway in another. ( Two countries not noted for violence or for restraint of equal rights for females.)

What if those nine countries had the least such family violence of the 196 countries in the world (195 if you don’t count Taiwan)?

If we want to reduce family violence, that’s fine and worth while.

But why give us bullshit saying we are among the worst for family violence in the “developed world”, when there is evidence for just 14 advanced countries?

What is the “developed world” any way? I cribbed this from Wikipedia:

According to the United Nations Statistics Division, there is no established convention for the designation of “developed” and “developing” countries or areas in the United Nations system.

What’s wrong with just saying we are introducing legislation aimed at reducing family violence?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5332717/NZ-worst-for-domestic-violence-UN-report
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September 12, 2016 7:02pm
- wiseowl
  
  No doubt it will be anti male.
  
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  September 12, 2016 7:28pm
  - sam green
    
    Oh FFS you pussy wise owl.
    
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    September 12, 2016 7:37pm
- Stars And Stripes
  
  “Intimate partner violence”
  Does this include spanking and handcuffing?.
  If it does then NZ should be proud of it’s world leader status.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:18pm
- Icarus
  
  No it is not targeting family violence. It is targeting men.
  
  Most family violence is perpetrated by women.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:43pm
  - GoVege
    
    That’s right Icarus.
    NZ gals are always stalking and killing their estranged hubbies and kids.
    Kiwi men must quaking in their boots.
    
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    September 13, 2016 12:10am
mikenmild

It used to be “they’re drinking our beer here”, but now it seems like Shortland Street will be our most famous export.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/84175180/ukraines-own-shortland-street-proves-a-hit
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September 12, 2016 7:09pm
- Jack5
  
  No wonder the ethnic-Russian half of Ukraine wants Moscow in control again.
  
  Land of beautiful women, land of Conrad, Gogol, Grossman, land of Richter and Horowitz – and now, such crap TV.
  
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  September 12, 2016 7:15pm
EAD

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/11/30-strong-sword-gang-storm-sikh-temple-leamington/

55 people have been arrested following an eight-hour armed protest of a “mixed marriage” at a Sikh temple in Leamington, Warwickshire.

The men, described as “fanatical extremists” by a trustee of the temple, are believed to have entered the Gurdwara Sahib in Tachbrook Park Drive at around 6:45am Sunday morning to protest the wedding of a Sikh bride and a Hindu groom.

A few noteworthy points from this Bagelbart story:

– If there are 55 of them, are they really “extremists” or are they actually “representatives”?

– While I have a soft spot for Sikhs who are by far the best of the 3rd world “minorities” our political elite bring in (unlike Indians ~ i.e. Hindus, Sikhs are in large 2nd world in their IQ, culture and outlook), it shows that if you import them in large numbers, they bring their problems from home to ours.

– It looks like Sikhs havent been browbeaten by multuculti propaganda. They realise demographics is destiny and like the Jews, don’t like race mixing. There is nothing more tragic than seeing a European person with an African. If they breed, 40,000 years of evolution would be flushed down the pan in an instant. I don’t know how parents could contemplate bringing a child that didn’t look like them.
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September 12, 2016 7:28pm
- sam green
  
  I used to think you were just a little bit racist EAD. How wrong was I?
  
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  September 12, 2016 7:35pm
  - EAD
    
    @ Sam Green,
    
    I’m not afraid to speak my mind and ultimately I think it is a head vs. heart thing.
    
    Very few white people “hate” because of skin colour alone (I’ve travelled to something like 60 odd countries and found good and bad in each). I dislike many white people. I have met countless non whites who were good, kind, decent intelligent folk. I like anyone in the latter category. That is my heart in action. My head, however, tells me that race replacement in white countries is a disaster, both because of the ultimate dysgenic downside and the inevitable racial tensions.
    
    I know several sikhs and they are good people on the whole, but I don’t want to be replaced by them.
    
    1,000 Sikhs is fine. 100,000 sikhs is not.
    
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    September 12, 2016 7:42pm
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      But I’m just going to have a wild stab in the dark and guess that there was nothing wrong with Europeans ‘replacing’ other races.
      
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      September 12, 2016 8:20pm
- mikenmild
  
  I liked how he generously promoted the Sikhs above some of the other mud races.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:07pm
  - EAD
    
    Hahahahaha,
    
    Nothing to actually say on the actual incident of 55 vibrants wielding swords, in England I’m commenting on, the biggest crime in your mind MM is my verbal faux pas.
    
    Quick – someone find Milkmaid a safe space!
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:14pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  @EAD
  You misunderstand Sikhism.
  Sikhs are not racists.
  They accept members of any race as converts, although they do not proselytize.
  http://www.realsikhism.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1248368159&ucat=7
  
  The debate in Leamington concerns the Sikh marriage ceremony between people of different faiths.
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:54pm
  - Icarus
    
    Yeah Maggy, who need racism when you have the caste system.
    
    But I get your point.
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:15pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      There is no caste system in Sikhism.
      http://www.realsikhism.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1248369635&ucat=7
      
      If you and I became Sikhs, we would be equals.
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:33pm
      - Icarus
        
        Don’t care. I am an atheist and you will be my love slave either way.
        
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        September 12, 2016 9:49pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Icarus
        
        I am repulsive. I think you could find better love slaves amongst JB’s wethers.
        
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        September 12, 2016 9:53pm
      - Icarus
        
        You are smart, warm and an independent thinker. That is not repulsive.
        
        Now stop acting all butch and behave 🙂
        
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        September 12, 2016 9:58pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Icarus
        
        Are you small, dark and rich?
        
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        September 12, 2016 10:03pm
Jack5

We have had a Sikh female mayor of Dunedin, and she was married to a Kiwi cricketer. She was a good mayor, too. So maybe Sikh attitudes to marrying outside the faith vary.

It’s not long ago that there was hostility to marriages between Catholics and Protestants in NZ. Doesn’t seem much of an issue now.
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September 12, 2016 7:34pm
- nasska
  
  …..”hostility to marriages between Catholics and Protestants in NZ.”…..
  
  How very true. In NZ of the 50s & 60s you’d have been better off socially if you married interspecies rather than had an interdenominational coupling! ?
  
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  September 12, 2016 7:41pm
  - MT_Tinman
    
    There is a school of thought that, in both the Waikato and Dunedin, many not just thought the same way but practiced what they preached.
    
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    September 12, 2016 7:50pm
    - nasska
      
      The love a true Scotsman holds for his livestock is often underestimated Tinman. 🙂
      
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      September 12, 2016 7:55pm
  - stigie
    
    “interdenominational”
    
    That’s a huge word Nasska ole chap, must go and look it up to see what it means..?
    
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    September 12, 2016 7:56pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Stigie:
      
      That’s a huge word Nasska
      
      The word “interdenominational” is much longer than “Eketahuna” – Nasska must be having a productive day at his keyboard!
      
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      September 12, 2016 8:08pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    That’s bullshit. My father, a Methodist, married my mother, a Catholic – in 1939.
    My wife, an Anglican, married me, a Catholic in 1968.
    Where do you got your facts from nasska?
    
    The Atheist Anthology no doubt.
    
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    September 12, 2016 8:04pm
    - nasska
      
      The Methodists & the Anglicans never did have much pride Don! 🙂
      
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      September 12, 2016 8:07pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I think the Mickey Doos have generally been okay with that so long as the groom promises to never use a condom and send the dozens of kids to a Catholic school.
      
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      September 12, 2016 8:10pm
nasska

It was the social implications that hit hard Mike. Imagine being the son of a man who had to marry a Catholic to get a bit of nooky.

The poor buggers were never allowed to live it down. 🙂
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September 12, 2016 8:14pm
- mikenmild
  
  Obligatory Monty Python song:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
  
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  September 12, 2016 8:30pm
Scott Chris

EAD

I’m not afraid to speak my mind and ultimately I think it is a head vs. heart thing.

Very few white people “hate” because of skin colour alone….[addended] …. My head, however, tells me that race replacement in white countries is a disaster, both because of the ultimate dysgenic downside and the inevitable racial tensions.

Yes EAD, you certainly fit the deplorable mould.
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September 12, 2016 8:29pm
Scott Chris

Boils down to this EAD. If you adopt an African child from birth who has been conceived and gestated from healthy parents how would he differ after 20 years from your own spawn on average?
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September 12, 2016 8:49pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  3 Olympic gold medals?
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:15pm
  - Scott Chris
    
    But not a premed scholarship?
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:19pm
    - nasska
      
      Don’t worry about that. There will probably be one of those ‘special’ categories like the Maori have to get them medical qualifications.
      
      You only have to be about 85% as able as anyone else to pass.
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:35pm
- Icarus
  
  Oh Scott that has been answered by research. He would have the same IQ as Africans generally. Not the average IQ of his environment.
  
  America adopted an African president and look at that disaster. Loser.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:17pm
  - Scott Chris
    
    Hi Kea. Care to link some credible research?
    
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    September 12, 2016 9:20pm
    - Icarus
      
      Hi Snott. You can find it on your internet connection. Attacking the messenger won’t hide the substandard results of Africans. Jews and Korean are the same. Except they have the highest IQ regardless of environment.
      
      Those are the facts. I am just presenting them.
      
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      September 12, 2016 9:25pm
Scott Chris

Icarus

Hi Snott. You can find it on your internet connection.

So in other words you made it up?

Point being Kea, you can be as witty as you want but you bang like a broken bell if you don’t have the numbers to prove it.
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September 12, 2016 9:34pm
- Icarus
  
  So if I find something on the www it is “made up” ?LOL 🙂
  
  Oh dear, try and make this fun. That sort of trolling is just boring and lacking in effort.
  
  There is a reason blacks are migrating to Norway and not the Congo. Even they accept the science.
  
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  September 12, 2016 9:39pm
  - sam green
    
    Cos’ they want to be cold?
    
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    September 12, 2016 10:21pm
Scott Chris

This is quite an interesting documentary:

Super Volcano Human Genetic Bottleneck
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September 12, 2016 10:04pm
- EAD
  
  This is even more interesting:
  
  https://katana17.wordpress.com/2014/05/11/how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
  
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  September 12, 2016 10:13pm
  - Scott Chris
    
    You really are making a case for Hillary’s Contemptibles EAD. Pray you don’t make it into that subset of unredemptibles.
    
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    September 12, 2016 11:07pm
sam green

Goodness there’s some liars here tonite – one in particular. Churchgoing man denying Christ.
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September 12, 2016 10:19pm
- Scott Chris
  
  Choose Me!
  
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  September 12, 2016 11:09pm
  - Scott Chris
    
    Well not exactly. I’d have stuck up for Jesus on his night of betrayal but surprisingly the notoriously ruthless Romans were okay with ear chopping so I stood from a safe distance.
    
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    September 12, 2016 11:15pm
tom hunter

It’s an interesting effort in data prediction. Several months ago I figured on Sep 1, but there was a fall-off in production that caused slippage to mid-September. A couple of weeks ago I had it at Sep 11 +/- 2 days, then picked Sep 13.

It now looks like Sep 14 will be the big day. I’d be amused if the the count fell one short of the record and then stopped at that point – but I don’t think that’s going to happen.
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September 12, 2016 11:40pm
- mikenmild
  
  I’m not sure that all of the relevant factors are predictable, tom.
  
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  September 13, 2016 6:58am
  - tom hunter
    
    Addiction is. 😉
    
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    September 13, 2016 8:34am
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      Addicts are not always predictable, and their behaviour can sometime change.
      
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      September 13, 2016 8:59am
Manolo

One of stephieboy’s mates is sent to Allah’s heaven:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/12/sniper-takes-out-isis-executioner-from-mile-away.html

A sharpshooter killed a top ISIS executioner and three other jihadists with a single bullet from nearly a mile away — just seconds before the fiend was set to burn 12 hostages alive with a flamethrower.
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