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Kimbo

@ waikatogirl

What is the difference between Kevin Roberts supposedly speaking rubbish and the above racist rubbish that is spouted by some Maori academics. The difference is Kevin Roberts is easily moved on. Not so Maori academics with their feet firmly planted in a well paying job and no repercussions.

Kimbo, until the universities take action against Maori academic staff for this twaddle speak nothing will change.

Umm, while I have little time for Leonie Pihama’s ideological perspective and prescriptions, nonetheless she has every right as an academic to voice them. Same with Hanoi jane Kelsey. The dialectic radical/critical left wing perspective is one that exists as a conceptual construct and also as a method of effecting change. It is the mainstay of Marxism, feminism, ethnic and LGBT studies, and increasingly conservation sciences. Just because you or I don’t like them is no reason to silence them. Far better to counter stupid ideas, in both the academy and in the marketplace of free ideas with…better ideas, arguments and solutions.

Kevin Roberts on the other hand worked in an industry that has minimal commitment to presenting the unvarnished truth. He was a whore for hire, who manipulated perceptions, and likely employees of both Saatchis and also his clients had to shut up and get with the programme, or ship out.

Now, in the case of Kevin Roberts, what goes around has come around. No tears from me.

That’s why they are different, IMHO.
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August 9, 2016 11:48am
dime

scott:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s
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August 9, 2016 11:50am
GoVege

They never got so nasty and personal about the guys.
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August 9, 2016 11:52am
Keeping Stock

@ Captain Mainwaring (9.40am) – here’s a Whanganui example – 3 3brm Californian bungalow 10 minutes walk from Victoria Avenue for $275,000:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-905308067.htm

There are 94 listings in Whanganui in the $200-300k range, and another 199 under $200k. Conversely, just 50 listings plus $500k, and many of those are properties which would cost two or three times as much in the Big Smoke.
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August 9, 2016 11:52am
SGA

Manolo at 11:40 am

…but did anybody make such nasty comments about his male predecessors?
Fatso Lange, shapeless Bolger, intellectual Shipley, and so on.

ummm…. Shipley?
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August 9, 2016 11:53am
dime

heh the good ole onion on trumps economic plan:

Prevent American companies from outsourcing jobs to women or minorities

Lower the corporate tax rate for CEOs too stupid to find a loophole

Do whatever you’re supposed to do with interest rates

Larger numbers for everyone

Round up and deport nation’s manufacturing robots

Raise taxes on the ultra-foreign

Spur innovation by speeding up demise of habitable climate

Cap top income tax rate at 25 percent or 33 percent or 14 percent or something in that general vicinity, but it’s hard to tell where the chips will fall

America’s financial woes to be eased significantly by cash gifts from America’s father
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August 9, 2016 11:53am
Keeping Stock

@ MT_Tinman – or Muldoon infamously describing Wallace “Bill” Rowling as being “a shudder looking for a spine to run up”.
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August 9, 2016 11:54am
GoVege

I wonder why these female academics like to bleach their hair?
Wanting the perks of European culture whilst bitching continually about it?
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August 9, 2016 11:54am
Kimbo

@ waikatogirl

Like freedom of the press and freedom of religion, academic freedom is a non-negotiable bedrock of our system. Pihama’s contract does not restrict her right to speak publicly in the manner in which you object.

Roberts, in contrast, worked in a commercial field that limits the rights and freedoms of those it pays to voice their opinions on their boss’s time. If Saatchi perceived Roberts’ less-than-clever comments had damaged their brand, then they had every right to take action and negotiate an exit package with him. And as per terms of his contract, by which he made heeps of dough spouting spin and shit for over two decades, Roberts did not have Pihama’s freedom to speak. Which he well knew.
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August 9, 2016 11:55am
Kimbo

@ waikatogirl

…if however, Leonie Pihama fails to reach and maintain the necessary standards of peer review (and the radical/critical perspective does have them), then, yes, there is a means by which she can be denied the (earned) privilege/right to present her views as worthy of an academic.
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August 9, 2016 12:04pm
Northland Wahine

Govege… Why do women with straight hair, curl theirs? Or curled women, straighten? Dye their hair, blue? Purple? why wax? Why do bald men wear toupees? Do a comb over?

Vanity lives in us all to some point.
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August 9, 2016 12:04pm
Manolo

Rapacious crooks:
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Family-of-Clock-Boy-Ahmed-Mohamed-sues-Texas-9128820.php

The family of a Muslim boy who was arrested after bringing a homemade clock to school has sued Texas school officials, saying they violated the 14-year-old boy’s civil rights.

The $50 million dollar lawsuit was filed Monday on behalf of Ahmed Mohamed. The teen was arrested at his suburban Dallas high school in September and charged with having a hoax bomb. He says he brought the homemade clock to school to show his teacher.
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August 9, 2016 12:09pm
Kimbo

Since when, in the context of the Rio Olympics, do lower-level members of the broadcast media such as Laura McGoldrick, Hayley Holt and Andrew Saville qualify as “stars”?!

http://spy.nzherald.co.nz/spy-news/why-rio-isnt-worth-it-for-some-kiwi-stars/
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August 9, 2016 12:10pm
Viking2

Stuff is entering the broadband market, launching an internet provider that will compete with Spark, Vodafone and dozens of smaller providers.

The service, Stuff Fibre, is majority-owned by Fairfax Media and expects to launch within three months.

It will offer uncapped ultrafast broadband with a 100 megabit download speed and Auckland-based customer support.

The other shareholders are five executives previously employed by Vodafone or Sky TV.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/82907984/fairfax-to-enter-the-broadband-market-with-stuff-fibre

100 mb Yesterday I hooked up to Callplus. 210 is what we get. Auckland support and great to deal with.
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August 9, 2016 12:11pm
Keeping Stock

@ Nostalgia – if you’re going to accuse me of putting the mockers on the Sevens Sisters, then you’re going to have to accuse this bloke as well:

Winston Peters added 4 new photos.

1 hr ·
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Go get ’em New Zealand!
New Zealand women’s national rugby sevens team

The referee was poor, but the Australians were easily the better team. Had we scored when leading five-nil after the Aussies threw not straight to the lineout on their own line, things might have been different. But they kept us out, turned the ball over and got a break-out try, and the momentum of the match shifted than and there.

There’s no disgrace in a silver medal, and Australia has been the best women’s sevens team all year. The big surprise though was Canada getting the bronze medal ahead of the UK.
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August 9, 2016 12:13pm
wiseowl

Catch the womens volleyball on now.

Wow.
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August 9, 2016 12:27pm
GoVege

NW: but this one’s got a moko!
I’m sure blondes were as rare as hens teeth in the Polynesian paradise of old.
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August 9, 2016 12:39pm
Nermal

dime (13,065 comments) says:
August 9th, 2016 at 9:48 am
hows hillary’s health? is she going to die in office? or just “short circuit” all the time?

She reminds me of Max Headroom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYdpOjletnc
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August 9, 2016 12:43pm
MT_Tinman

Keeping Stock (12,469 comments) says:
August 9th, 2016 at 11:54 am

@ MT_Tinman – or Muldoon infamously describing Wallace “Bill” Rowling as being “a shudder looking for a spine to run up”.

Infamously? or correctly 😉
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August 9, 2016 12:56pm
GoVege

And that Maori woman who got paid multi millions of public money when her dad was head of the wananga looks more pakeha than me.
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August 9, 2016 1:10pm
Keeping Stock

Infamously? or correctly

I couldn’t possibly comment MT_Tinman. Rowling always seemed a thoroughly decent chap, though hopelessly out of his depth against the Old Tusker.
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August 9, 2016 1:10pm
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August 9th, 2016 at 12:56 pm

Keeping Stock (12,469 comments) says:
August 9th, 2016 at 11:54 am

@ MT_Tinman – or Muldoon infamously

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Keeping was just being PC
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August 9, 2016 1:12pm
cha

I’m starting to think that I should weigh my skepticism about the “Trump doesn’t want it” theory.

Perhaps an epic piss take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qIQbydyHwc&feature=youtu.be
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August 9, 2016 1:18pm
Manolo

A ton of money wasted by bureaucrats on no-hopers:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/08/13bn-troubled-families-scheme-has-had-no-discernible-impact

The £1.3bn government “troubled families” scheme to tackle entrenched social problems following the riots in 2011 has had no discernible impact on unemployment, truancy or criminality, an unpublished Whitehall report has found.
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August 9, 2016 1:22pm
waikatogirl

Kimbo
Umm, while I have little time for Leonie Pihama’s ideological perspective and prescriptions, nonetheless she has every right as an academic to voice them. Same with Hanoi jane Kelsey. The dialectic radical/critical left wing perspective is one that exists as a conceptual construct and also as a method of effecting change. It is the mainstay of Marxism, feminism, ethnic and LGBT studies, and increasingly conservation sciences. Just because you or I don’t like them is no reason to silence them. Far better to counter stupid ideas, in both the academy and in the marketplace of free ideas with…better ideas, arguments and solutions.
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While I very much agree with free speech and stretching young minds of students at universities, there is a difference in teaching facts and imparting unsubstantiated rhetoric.
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August 9, 2016 1:27pm
GoVege

Manolo: nothing can compensate for the loss of the work ethic.
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August 9, 2016 1:31pm
Kimbo

@ waikatogirl

While I very much agree with free speech and stretching young minds of students at universities, there is a difference in teaching facts and imparting unsubstantiated rhetoric.

OK. So who decides…and how? And why don’t you trust the “young minds at universities” to be able to make up their own minds? That’s what they are there for! Not sure I like the idea of a graduate telling me, “excuse me, I’ll just call my former sociology lecturer to find out what I think”! 😉
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August 9, 2016 1:31pm
dime

“She reminds me of Max Headroom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYdpOjletnc”

lol

http://moelane.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/hil-clinton.jpg
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August 9, 2016 1:36pm
Tauhei Notts

I am so old that I can recall the Hon Martyn Finlay talking on Tv as cabinet minister.
What made me think of him was Simon Bridges’ comments about Uber. He sounded exactly like a Labour Party man.
I think it is awful for a National minister to come out openly and downgrade a private business. This is a very unfortunate precedent.
I recall a Dunedin brokerage firm putting people into worthless Feltex shares some years ago. Brokers would have been appalled if a cabinet minister had come out at the time and said what crooks they were. Some things we know; we just don’t say them in public.
Uber is wonderful in that their complaints system very quickly sorts the wheat from the chaff. And, even better than that, it does so without the need for a bloated bureaucracy.
Bridges’ comments sounded like Labour as they were there to protect the bureaucrats, rather than the public.
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August 9, 2016 1:40pm
stephieboy

Tauhei Notts (2,383 comments) says:
August 9th, 2016 at 10:05 am
Stephieboy writes;
Dime, your thick.

If you know the difference between your and you’re, you know your shit.
If you don’t know the difference between your and you’re, you know you’re shit.

Very deep stuff there ,TN.

DUH !
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August 9, 2016 2:02pm
srylands

Folk on The Standard today formulating a plan for housing. I kept reading it in disbelief.

1. Brigid: “No don’t give [Crown Land] to developers. Have [the] government set up a land developing/house building entity to do it all. Then sell it to low income people on 3% fixed rate loans. Just like happened in the olden days.”

2. Craig H: “That one, but price it at 3.5 x [each] buyer’s income. If the state takes a loss, so be it.

3. Colonial Viper: “It doesn’t matter if the state “takes a loss” because the state has the reserve bank which can supply to the state whatever monies is required.”
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August 9, 2016 2:04pm
starboard

“I am always amazed and very respectful when I see young Maori doing such jobs.”

What, like a bank job..or an inside job vege ?
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August 9, 2016 2:13pm
starboard

3. Colonial Viper: “It doesn’t matter if the state “takes a loss” because the state has the reserve bank which can supply to the state whatever monies is required.”

Is the tard serious ? Or is it tongue in cheek maybe ?
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August 9, 2016 2:27pm
Kimbo

@ tom hunter

Ichiro hits 3000

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/more-sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503832&objectid=11689360

Hitting coach Barry Bonds gave him a hug as the celebration at third base ended, and Suzuki got another round of applause when he scored on Jeff Mathis’ single, as well as a hug from manager Don Mattingly.

Hmm. Ichiron and Barry Bonds. So many contrasts as players and as people…
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August 9, 2016 2:39pm
srylands

“3. Colonial Viper: “It doesn’t matter if the state “takes a loss” because the state has the reserve bank which can supply to the state whatever monies is required.”

Is the tard serious ? Or is it tongue in cheek maybe ?”
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He is serious. He runs this line consistently. He says there is no limit to the resources of the State because the Reserve Bank can issue an unlimited supply of New Zealand dollars. He also becomes highly abusive if anyone challenges this view.

Colonial Viper is also known as Tat Loo. He is a Dunedin Chiroptactor. He ran against Bill English as the Labour candidate in Clutha-Southland in 2011.
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August 9, 2016 2:56pm
GoVege

Hilarious, Starboard.
Not all Maori are thieves or losers.
When their parents stick it out together and even restrict the number of their children to 6 or under, they can even do very well.
I even know a few who went onto higher education.
No small achievement with the put-down “potato” no doubt ringing in their ears….
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August 9, 2016 3:00pm
tom hunter

@Kimbo
Wow. I’d lost track of him after that dazzler with Seattle all those years ago. 42 years old and still hitting. Damn!

And Barry Bonds as hitting coach with Don Mattingly as manager. Again, I had no idea where they’d gone. Perhaps Bonds is finally putting those demons to rest, though I still think he’s going to be bitter if he continues to fail to make the Hall of Fame. A lot of people still hold it against him for almost certainly using steroids while he broke the single season home run record and then beat Hank Aaron’s a few years later. And such a shame considering he was always a greater player in all aspects than Canseco, or McGuire. But that home run thing just grated on him.

As for Mattingly, I always thought he played more with brains than gifts, so he may be one of those players who can become a successful manager.

But good on Ichiro.
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August 9, 2016 3:02pm
GoVege

Control yourself, Wise owl!
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August 9, 2016 3:03pm
GoVege

Could you guys stop using that revolting expression “tard” and variations thereof.
Surely the English language has enough insults without you resorting to ones that put down disabled persons.
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August 9, 2016 3:06pm
srylands

“Shall we out you too, Steve?”

It is different when he outs himself:

http://thestandard.org.nz/tat-loo-viper-pilot/

“By Tat Loo a.k.a. “Colonial Viper”
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August 9, 2016 3:08pm
Kimbo

@ tom hunter

A lot of people still hold it against (Bonds) for almost certainly using steroids while he broke the single season home run record and then beat Hank Aaron’s a few years later. And such a shame considering he was always a greater player in all aspects than Canseco, or McGuire. But that home run thing just grated on him.

Well, if his head and feet size increasingly markedly during his pro career is proof, then, yeah! Don’t tell Andrei 😉

http://www.espn.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/6190981/barry-bonds-testimony-include-growing-hat-shoe-size
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August 9, 2016 3:10pm
Nostradamus

GoVege:

Could you guys stop using that revolting expression

A vegetable complaining about something revolting – comedy gold!
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August 9, 2016 3:11pm
cha

It is different when he outs himself:

Indeed it is but that was some while ago but knowing how much more heated things have gotten recently, is it such a good idea to publicise his details?.
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August 9, 2016 3:16pm
Rachael Membery

srylands (1,276 comments) says:

August 9th, 2016 at 2:56 pm

If such a scheme was implemented, how many chances would applicants get? Chances are the houses would get treated as housing NZ houses are, as I assume that they will be from the same client pool?
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August 9, 2016 3:16pm
Kimbo

Indeed it is but that was some while ago but knowing how heated things have gotten more recently, is it such a good idea to publicise his details?.

Agreed. Being a Labour Party activist and some-time candidate is bad enough but who could ever live down the shame and humiliation of being publicly outed as…a chiropractor?! 😉

Mind you quackery and the radical left-wing of the Labour Party go together so well.
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August 9, 2016 3:19pm
Rachael Membery

GoVege (107 comments) says:

August 9th, 2016 at 3:00 pm

At College, I think that it is Maori themselves that discourage their own, once at uni, it is very supportive.
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August 9, 2016 3:22pm
Nostradamus

The NZ Herald covers the big issues:

A new mother has responded after being criticised for wearing a bikini while taking her baby to a swimming pool. The mother claims a stranger told her it “wasn’t appropriate for a new mother, especially one who is still recovering” to be wearing the leopard print bikini. Lexi Sinclair from Kansas City in the US, posted on Facebook about the incident, which happened when she took her four-month-old son Christian to the pool.

So someone (who none of us had heard of) posts on Facebook in the US and it becomes front-page news on the NZ Herald website?
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August 9, 2016 3:29pm
Northland Wahine

Yep Nostradamus, journalism at its finest.
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August 9, 2016 3:30pm
Nostradamus

And, in another breaking NZ Herald story, we have Cops cook pasta for lonely elderly couple:

A group of kind-hearted Italian cops cooked a pasta meal for an elderly couple, after neighbours heard them crying.

According to UK newspaper, The Independent, 84-year-old Jole and 94-year-old Michele, from Italy, told police that they were upset at the state of the world after watching the news on TV, and the fact that nobody had visited them in months also added to their sadness. … The cops were so moved by the couple’s plight that they decided to cook them one of the country’s most well-loved dishes – pasta and parmesan, to cheer them up.

The team posted the unusual callout on the police Facebook page, where it has been shared more than 24,000 times.

And, thanks to the NZ Herald, we won’t miss any newsworthy Facebook posts!
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August 9, 2016 3:35pm
Keeping Stock

@ Nostradamus – the New Zealand Herald and the New Zealand Labour Party; both relentlessly focused on the issues that matter to New Zealanders. Cue a Tui advert…
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August 9, 2016 3:35pm
GoVege

Nostradamus: I am not a vegetable. I am advocating that my fellow humans stop chomping on the bodies of other mammals and birds, and partake of the many hundreds of beautiful, delicious and health-giving plants available.
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August 9, 2016 3:37pm
Nostradamus

GoVege:

I am advocating that my fellow humans stop chomping on the bodies of other mammals and birds, and partake of the many hundreds of beautiful, delicious and health-giving plants available.

Where do fish and other seafood delicacies sit in this grand master plan of yours?
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August 9, 2016 3:39pm
GoVege

Glad to hear that Rachael. Just a pity they have to survive high school first.
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August 9, 2016 3:40pm
Keeping Stock

Nostradamus: I am not a vegetable. I am advocating that my fellow humans stop chomping on the bodies of other mammals and birds, and partake of the many hundreds of beautiful, delicious and health-giving plants available.

Thanks for that GoVege. Next time I cook a roast of delicious, succulent pork (with crackling) I will make sure I do extra potato, kumara, parsnip, yams and pumpkin 😀
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August 9, 2016 3:42pm
mikenmild

So GeVege is a monstrous herbivore, mercilessly destroying and eating innocent vegetation. Were he truly an ethical person, he would confine himself to consuming sunlight and oxygen only:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Breatharianism
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August 9, 2016 3:43pm
Nostradamus

Keeping Stock:

Sounds like a dinner invitation – I gratefully accept! (I’ll bring a packet of Go Wanganui postcards to share.)
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August 9, 2016 3:44pm
Rachael Membery

GoVege (111 comments) says:

August 9th, 2016 at 3:37 pm

We are omnivore by design.
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August 9, 2016 3:46pm
GoVege

Nostrodamus: I feel for fish persons also, but at least most of them do not suffer to nearly the degree that mammals and birds do,especially as few of them form maternal bonds with their children. I wouldn’t eat ones imprisoned in fish farms….only “wild-caught” fishes.
I also don’t believe that killing fish brutalises people the way killing mammals does.
Except maybe those sadists who fight it out with some poor fish for hours on the end of a line….
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August 9, 2016 3:48pm
GoVege

Re: the consequences of paying others to kill our “meat” for us.
Check out the occupation of the wife-basher on page 8 of yesterday’s Herald.
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August 9, 2016 3:51pm
Nostradamus

GoVege:

What’s your lifestyle philosophy? Would you describe yourself as an ethical eater?

And, just out of interest, what did you eat for breakfast and lunch today?
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August 9, 2016 3:52pm
Northland Wahine

Govege- I’m sure the wife basher you mentioned would be a wife basher be he a butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker.
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August 9, 2016 3:54pm
GoVege

I try to be ethical about everything I do, Nostrodamus.
So far today I’ve had a coffee and walnut and carrot bran muffin from mcd…beautiful! !
Tonight I’ll be eating spuds, broccolli and vegeburgers.
Btw: broccoli and walnuts are 2 of the healthiest foods on the planet. There is no meat on the top ten list.
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August 9, 2016 3:57pm
Nostradamus

Northland Wahine:

It makes a change from racial profiling, I suppose!

GoVege:

I’m not sure I could live on that diet day in, day out, but if you can then full credit to you.
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August 9, 2016 3:58pm
GoVege

Sorry NW..but I’ve noticed meat “workers” seem to figure disproportionately in the DV and family murders reports.
Of course nobody in this meat-gorging nation would dare to actually do a survey.
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August 9, 2016 4:00pm
Northland Wahine

Really GoVege?

In that case, why has DV cases risen in the past 5 years when freezing works employment has dropped?
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August 9, 2016 4:03pm
Griff

vegeburgers.

Rofl
The meat you eat when you dont eat meat
Smell the bacon veg head those poor animal people wouldn’t be here if we did not find them so yummy.
Nature is far far crueler than man could ever be .
http://www.livescience.com/52687-flesh-eating-monsters-superbugs.html
Ear Maggots and Brain Amoebas: 5 Creepy Flesh-Eating Critters
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August 9, 2016 4:04pm
GoVege

Thank you for that thumbs up, NW.
Vegetarian food can be very yummy but is more work than cooking meat.
If there was the demand, there would be more ready-made vegetarian food available.
I don’t deny that meat is delicious..just not for the animals it comes from.
But it’s only good luck that our species is running this planet.
It could just as easily been us on the end of some other species’ fork.
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August 9, 2016 4:06pm
Nostradamus

GoVege:

I realise it’s early in the week but – good news! – I’ve found a great movie for you to watch on Friday night.

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre is a 1974 American horror film … The film follows a group of friends who fall victim to a family of cannibals while on their way to visit an old homestead. … It is credited with originating several elements common in the slasher genre, including the use of power tools as murder weapons and the characterization of the killer as a large, hulking, faceless figure.

Recommended snack and beverage to accompany movie: ginger beer and cashew nuts.
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August 9, 2016 4:08pm
Kriss X

GoVege is another little eco commie. Bet it’s a warmist too.

Just flew over NZ. Central North island covered in snow. How could Maori have survived that in grass skirts ? Fact is the earth is cooling.
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August 9, 2016 4:11pm
Brigitte

But some animals just want to be eaten…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1nxaQhsaaw
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August 9, 2016 4:12pm
SGA

GoVege at 4:06 pm

But it’s only good luck that our species is running this planet.
It could just as easily been us on the end of some other species’ fork.

“only good luck”? Well, it’s a little more complicated than that – it’s not as though we won it in a raffle.
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August 9, 2016 4:12pm
Northland Wahine

Errrr GoVege, not sure what you’re on about. You’ve received no thumbs from me either way today.
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August 9, 2016 4:12pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Kimbo and Keeping.

I think it was all down to one touch by Woodman that resulted in the sinbin. I reluctantly have to say the aussies had a very rare good day.
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August 9, 2016 4:12pm
nasska

Vegetarian is a euphemism for hopeless farmer.
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August 9, 2016 4:19pm
Manolo

Unbelievable hysteria:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/08/why-trump-is-now-the-most-dangerous-man-in-the-world-commentary.html

This election, every American voter has the power and duty to stop a dangerous man from destroying our alliances and gaining control of nuclear weapons.
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August 9, 2016 4:24pm
Kriss X

GoVege needs to learn vegetarianism fails for the same reason communism fails. Both are against nature. Things eating each other are essential to life. God gave us dominion over the land and beasts.
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August 9, 2016 4:28pm
Northland Wahine

GoVege, you remind me of a time many moons ago, when I took a vegetarian boyfriend up home to show off my northern roots. (No pun intended) My brother took us out fishing, with customary chilly bin to fill with fish. First decent sized snapper was hauled in and thrown into the bin. Thing was flipping around as they do and asaid boyfriend asked if it was humane to let it gasp for air. My brother, without blinking an eyelid, picked up a piece of wood with a nail embedded at one end and put it thru it’s brain.

Poor guy went from pale to deathly pale. But no more was said about the rest of the fish haul that day.
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August 9, 2016 4:30pm
Nostradamus

Northland Wahine:

You left out the most important part of the story.

Did he get lucky that night after a seafood meal?
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August 9, 2016 4:39pm
nasska

Reminds me of the first job I had after leaving school Northern Wahine. One of Saturday morning’s jobs was to kill & dress a couple of dog tuckers…..after that the rest of the weekend was mine.

Anyhow one morning we had the cocky’s teenage nephew staying & he near dry retched while watching the killing. I grabbed him, put his throat over my knee & made a few sawing motions with the leather knife scabbard. The little wimp ran off to the house holding his neck & bawling that we’d cut his throat.

I was in the shit with the boss’s wife for a couple of days but it was worth it. ?
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August 9, 2016 4:40pm
Northland Wahine

Nostra, let’s just say he saw the northern lights more than once.

Nasska, you probably made him a vegan… Wait! GoVege, how old are you? ?
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August 9, 2016 4:46pm
RF

GoVege. 11.55am

In response to your comments about Clark and the catty remarks about her good looks. One comment springs to my lips… Mutton dressed up as lamb. But wait there’s more….. the expression “Dog Tucker”.

Don’t forget It was a deliberate ploy by her to post the airbrushed photos. No one twisted her arm. I know for a fact that senior Labour Party members were choking over their drinks when the photos first appeared and there was a genuine concern that she was making a complete fool of herself. That was later proven to be correct.

If she was so vain to go to the trouble of having her mug airbrushed why not pay to have her crooked teeth straightened.
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August 9, 2016 4:47pm
stephieboy

Kriss X , so God decides whether you should be omnivorous or herbivorous ?

“God gave us dominion over the land and beasts.”

To do what ?

What is a ‘commie ” ?
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August 9, 2016 4:51pm
Maggy Wassilieff

3 year-old drives (steers) drunk mother’s car in Ngaruwahia

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/82961233/unlicensed-mum-drives-drunk-with-3yearold-on-lap
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August 9, 2016 4:55pm
Don the Kiwi

Stephen Boyle’s religion of peace spreading the love by teaching it to their children

http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2016/08/07/from-the-religion-of-peace-little-girl-sings-isis-song-beheads-doll/
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August 9, 2016 5:01pm
Lucia Maria

Govege,

Btw: broccoli and walnuts are 2 of the healthiest foods on the planet.

Just make sure you always cook your broccoli, otherwise if you eat too much raw it’ll stuff your thyroid up.
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August 9, 2016 5:07pm
MT_Tinman

nasska (16,839 comments) says:
August 9th, 2016 at 4:40 pm

Anyhow one morning we had the cocky’s teenage nephew staying & he near dry retched while watching the killing.

If you slit the gut-sack so would I.

That was one smell I could never get used to.
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August 9, 2016 5:13pm
Steve (North Shore)

And so the skulduggery continues – rather strange don’t you think?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oytybaz9lq9jzxn/clinton%20deaths.jpg?dl=0
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August 9, 2016 5:16pm
Kriss X

This place is awash with heathen eco commies.
It breaks my heart.
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August 9, 2016 5:21pm
pentwig

stephieboy (13,009 comments) says:
August 9th, 2016 at 4:51 pm

What is a ‘commie ” ?

You daffy, you.
Now you have learnt something of value today.
Off to North Korea with you. They will adore you.
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August 9, 2016 5:31pm
Northland Wahine

Maggy, it’s a small mercy the drunken bitch didn’t try to make a getaway, killing herself, the child, her passengers and other motorists.
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August 9, 2016 5:32pm
Kriss X

Stephieboy. Yes god creates us and wants us to eat meat. You are a godless heathen commie.
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August 9, 2016 5:35pm
stigie

“This place is awash with heathen eco commies.”

Could be awash with eco sexuals Kriss X so a blessing really ..?
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August 9, 2016 5:37pm
Rachael Membery

It was the eating of meat that allowed our brains to develop as some of them have! Some other people not so much. It wasn’t the other way around.
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August 9, 2016 5:40pm
nasska

I was getting used to the Godnutters & chemtrailers stigie but we’ve finally scored ourselves a real live vegan.

It never gets boring here! 🙂
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August 9, 2016 5:45pm
Reid

In truth, however, the bigger net seems to be tightening on Washington. World public opinion increasingly understands that terrorism is closely correlated with everywhere Washington engages. The terrorism spawned in Afghanistan and Iraq under US occupation, was grafted onto Libya during NATO’s regime-change bombing operation in 2011, which in turn contaminated Syria as part of another regime-change campaign under Obama and his then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

For Obama to now revisit Libya with further air strikes due to failure of a criminal policy in Syria – a failure resulting from Russia’s principled intervention – is simply plumbing the depths of American degeneracy. And the rest of the world can see it.

Of course it can, the part of the world not populated by sheeple of course.

https://off-guardian.org/2016/08/08/losing-to-russia-in-syria-washington-bombs-libya/
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August 9, 2016 5:48pm
Rachael Membery

So do we pull over to ring star 555, or will we get pinged for using our ph?
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August 9, 2016 5:48pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Don’t s’pose this is the time and place to describe the Chilseong dog-meat market I was wandering around in last month.

https://www.change.org/p/daegu-korea-close-down-chilseong-market-s-illegal-dog-slaughterhouses-enforce-animal-protection-law
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August 9, 2016 5:51pm
stigie

“It never gets boring here!”

And of course the return of the delightful Reddy Nasska, wouldn’t that set the scene for ongoing humour..?
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August 9, 2016 5:53pm
nasska

I took a look at True Blue & The Blast the other day stigie. It seems that he overflowed the bath or something & he’s taken a few months off blogging to sort it out. 🙂
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August 9, 2016 5:58pm
GoVege

NW: maybe because women are encouraged to report DV now?
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