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Jack5

A Muslim missionary does a street survey in Auckland, reports Stuff.

Just how did being a Muslim missionary fit the immigration criteria to get into New Zealand? Politicians keep bullshitting that it’s about taking in the highly qualified people the economy needs.

With two low-ranked Ministers (Woodhouse and Foss) assigned to look after immigration, NZ’s immigration service continues to prove itself worthless.

It orders a young American mother in Southland out of the country and let’s into the country a Muslim missionary. I suspect a large number of the Immigration Department staff aren’t even NZ citizens.

National has nailed its colours to the mast on immigration and it’s policies on immigration are flaky. A strategic error by National.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/81771331/muslims-take-to-the-streets-to-find-out-what-nzers-think-about-islam
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July 5, 2016 2:37pm
Elaycee

@Jack5: Maybe he got into NZ because the Immigration folk thought his application said he wanted a position as a missionary, before they realised he actually said he had a preference for the missionary position! 😀
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July 5, 2016 2:46pm
Jack5

Re Elaycee at 2.46….

A Muslim having a preference for the missionary position? A billion-year orgy ahead with a personal harem of renewable virgins and he’s fixated on the missionary position?

C’mon.
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July 5, 2016 2:49pm
stephieboy

jack 5, time to get the paranoia revved up on your turbocharger ?
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July 5, 2016 2:50pm
Jack5

What was that squeaking noise in the thread at 2.50?

A fanatic voice made even more shrill by the hunger pangs of Ramadan…

Ramadan ends tomorrow, and the Stephie Islamic troll team will soon settle down to a less shrill mindlessness.
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July 5, 2016 2:52pm
Jack5

Now we’ve set the Stephies on their arses, here’s a bizarre story for a change of topic.

A woman has made a dress and top out of public hair donated to her after an appeal on social media.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/mum-makes-bizarre-pubic-hair-8350192
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July 5, 2016 3:05pm
mikenmild

My hair is quite public Jack.
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July 5, 2016 3:06pm
AgentBallSack

Jack5, they could always while away the time of Ramadan with a Mohammed colouring in book…. Oh.
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July 5, 2016 3:08pm
Jack5

Good one Milky (3.06).

My typo…

I guess we could say it’s public pubic hair. Or should that be pubic public hair?

Some people will do anything for pubicity.
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July 5, 2016 3:08pm
Manolo

The crooked queen takes offense:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/05/us/politics/hillary-clintons-campaign-calls-donald-trumps-star-of-david-tweet-anti-semitic.html?_r=0

Hillary Clinton’s campaign said on Monday that an image posted by Donald J. Trump on Twitter over the weekend that showed a photo of Mrs. Clinton against a backdrop of $100 bills and a Star of David was “blatantly anti-Semitic.”
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July 5, 2016 3:11pm
Manolo

Our own stephieboy can answer this prickly question: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36703874

Why so-called Islamic State chooses to bomb during Ramadan?
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July 5, 2016 3:14pm
Griff

ROFL
Shewn has a multiple post meltdown of stupidity.
The numbers have been posted so many times finally you have to admit they are before you .
But you still dont let it into your mind .
Right wing terrorism killed more in the usa than Muslims did between 2002 and June 2016.
This is a fact that makes you go all wacko.
Seeing you Gibbering like a nut makes it worth winding you up with reality.
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July 5, 2016 3:19pm
Jack5

Griff says he has a scientific background, but at 3.19 he fiddles with the X axis and he must know you can make a graph or the equivalent say anything you like by toying with that axis.

Take the axis from June 2015 to June 2016 rather than over 14 years, and you will likely find something very different. Even if you don’t, Griff ignores the fact that there are far more extreme right people in America than there are Wahhabists. Give us number of violent deaths caused by right-wing extremists (per head, of course) compared with those killed in America by Muslim extremists (per head).

I wonder whether Griff’s arguments on global warming might similarly distorted by his relying on weather recordings, when weather has been recorded only for the last couple of centuries out of the billions of years that Earth has existed. Even with Antarctic ice cores and other geology tips, do we have a sound basis for comparing recent weather trends with the billion-years record, or can we, at best, only make a wild guess?
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July 5, 2016 3:29pm
mikenmild

LOL. Jack calls for settled science for measuring terrorism and climate change.
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July 5, 2016 3:32pm
stephieboy

jack 5. try to face the real world What a miserable delusional world you , ABS and Manolo etc must inhabit .Share with all of us the experience ?

http://flathillfaith.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012-07-07-06.09.03.jpg
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July 5, 2016 3:34pm
Jack5

No Milky (3.32) I just want Griff to stop fiddling the numbers on American deaths from Muslim extremists and to take into account base numbers of Muslims v. non-Muslims.

I don’t really give a toss about climate change, so long as there’s not a sudden lurch into an Ice Age.
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July 5, 2016 3:35pm
Jack5

Re Stephie X at 3.34..

Steady lad, sunset in your Auckland suburb today is 5.17. Less than two hours to go until food! Hang on.
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July 5, 2016 3:37pm
Griff

Jack the numbers and the individual incidents are in the link I gave .
More died from right wing terrorism in the USA between 2002 up until the resent gay club deaths.
Global warming is supported by every major scientific body on the planet and 190 country’s including ours just made an agreement to do something about it .
So it is your opinion verse that of every scientific body and government .
Sorry on global warming you are gibbering nonsense from ignorance that might be popular among many on here but it gives me the right to point out how thick the average commentator is.
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July 5, 2016 3:41pm
mikenmild

Jack
Surely the only numbers that count are the overall deaths on each side: a few thousand Americans versus a few million Muslims.
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July 5, 2016 3:42pm
Jack5

Milky:

Your argument seems to boil down to it’s okay for Muslim extremists to kill people in the West because those Muslim extremists kill more people in Muslim countries.

That’s a bit like saying it was okay for Hitler to kill six million Jews because he actually killed 20 million Russians.

That, of course, is a preposterous argument.
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July 5, 2016 3:45pm
mikenmild

No, it’s just a way of putting the costs of war in proportion. Fixating on deaths from ‘terrorism’ puts the focus entirely on one small aspect of the conflict.
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July 5, 2016 3:49pm
Shawn Herles

“Griff says he has a scientific background, but at 3.19 he fiddles with the X axis and he must know you can make a graph or the equivalent say anything you like by toying with that axis.

Take the axis from June 2015 to June 2016 rather than over 14 years, and you will likely find something very different.”

Not to mention that his original claim is very different to the one he is making now. But yes, unlike griffy I actually read the info he posted very carefully, and it does not in anyway support his claim about Islamic terrorism and the West. The claim only became ‘Islamic terrorism and the US’ when his first claim was demolished by reality. Even then, he had to move the shells around by focusing only on 2002 to 2016. But, that does not work either, because as I pointed out to him, the actual number of people killed by Islamic terrorists is still in excess of the number killed by his so-called “right wing” terrorists. His only response to that was to say effectively, “who cares, sob sob.”

Not a rational response. Not even a sane one.

And he does not seem to realize that excluding 911 from any analasys of Islamic terrorism is a blatantly obvious deception which totally undermines his argument.

The reality remains, and Griffy’s links actually prove this, as far as the West as a whole is concerned, Islam is a serious threat, not an imaginary one as griify said a few days ago. And that is what I have been talking about all along, the West as a whole, but poor desperate griffy keeps ignoring that and pretending I am only talking about the US.

In the wake of what we have seen this year, multiple Islamic attacks on the West, hundreds of victims in the West alone, and dozens upon dozens more attacks around the world, any claim that the threat of Islamic terrorism is “imaginary” (the actual word griffy used) is seriosuly delusional, and every bit as whacked as UglyTruth’s hollow earth idea or EAD’s holocaust denial lunacy.

But I encourage griffy to continue with this as he is doing a sterling job of destroying whatever shred of intellectual credibility he may have had on KB. 🙂
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July 5, 2016 3:53pm
Jack5

Milky, Wahhabists have been stirring and instigating terrorism for well over a century.

Kipling mentions them in his stuff about the British-Indian invasions of Afghanistan.

Now that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States are pumping billions into supporting them, they are attacking the West. To say that does not mean there is no global problem from the Wahhabists and their cronies. They want to rule the world.

A lot of people don’t seem to be yet awake to the danger to Western countries. Perhaps for comparison, we might think it’s as if there had been no Churchill, and the Anglosphere slept on while the Nazis kept spreading.
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July 5, 2016 3:54pm
Shawn Herles

“More died from right wing terrorism in the USA between 2002 up until the resent gay club deaths.”

And the shell game continues. Add in both Orlando and 911, and what happens to griffys claim?

BOOM! 🙂
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July 5, 2016 3:56pm
RalphT

Manolo (21,686 comments) says:
July 5th, 2016 at 3:14 pm
Our own stephieboy can answer this prickly question: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36703874
Why so-called Islamic State chooses to bomb during Ramadan?

Manolo, surely the question is why followers of a religion of peace would bomb at all?
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July 5, 2016 3:58pm
Manolo

The Republican fools are determined to lose (rain or shine):
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/04/republican-delegate-revolt-grows-in-effort-to-sidetrack-trump-nomination.html?intcmp=hpbt2

A determined insurgency among some of the delegates to the Republican National Convention is growing, a last ditch effort to sidetrack the nomination of Donald Trump.
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July 5, 2016 3:59pm
Griff

Gibber gibber gibber
It is imaginary when you think it is going to effect you are anyone you know shank .
One in 2,000,000.
Is about the odds of wining power ball this week….
You have not demolished my claims Shawn at any time .
You have twisted my statements around and demolished your own perverted claims not what I have said.

Shawn method is gibber rubbish and refuse to actually provide anything but idiotic links to extremist webshites and yet more gibbering and pissing him self over a minute threat while ignoring the elephant of the number dead from US aggression in Muslim country’s.
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July 5, 2016 4:11pm
cha

The Juno orbiter insertion burn appears to have been a success – and now we wait….

https://twitter.com/NASAJuno

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public (back live at 5pm our time)

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/juno/main/index.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_(spacecraft)
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July 5, 2016 4:13pm
Griff

And the shell game continues. Add in both Orlando and 911, and what happens to griffys claim?

My claim was made before orlando shwan
So it was 100% correct at the time.
The attacks on 9/11 was from saudi arabian nationals.
For some unknown reason the usa used 9/11 as an excuse to attack both afghanistan and iraq .
Why do you think that was?
Do you think invading two nation and killing a few million was justified when they had very little to actually do with flying the plains into the buildings?
There was never the weapons of mass destruction used as an excuse either .
So i would say that the biggest terrorist attack was from the usa side .
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July 5, 2016 4:19pm
AgentBallSack

Griff asserts the odds of winning Powerball are 1 in 2 million while using those figures to back up his other claims.

Sorry.

Lotto is a 6/40 game. Out of 40 possible numbers, six are drawn which a ticket holder has to match in order to win first division. The odds of winning Lotto first division are 1 in 3.8 million. Throw in a Powerball and the odds increase to 1 in 38 million
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July 5, 2016 4:29pm
cha

heh

Adrienne LaFrance Verified account
‏@AdrienneLaF

Spacecraft-grade aluminum Lego figures on-board @NASAJuno include (from left to right) Galileo, Juno, and Jupiter

https://twitter.com/AdrienneLaF/status/750174427225133056

edit: precision plus

(((Robert McNees)))
‏@mcnees

The full distance #Juno travelled is closer to 3 BILLION km. And the spacecraft’s arrival was only off by about a second. A second!

https://twitter.com/mcnees/status/750182569484820480
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July 5, 2016 4:32pm
Manolo

Payback: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/boris-johnson-backs-andrea-leadsom-for-prime-minister/

Boris Johnson has given his backing to Andrea Leadsom in the Conservative Party leadership campaign, in a move which could end Michael Gove’s hopes of becoming Prime Minister.
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July 5, 2016 4:33pm
starboard

Lol..well done Agent Sack…Gwiffs fuckwittery, boobery and general incompetence has been uncovered.
His credibility on anything..shot down. Oh the pain..the humiliation…
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July 5, 2016 4:34pm
Griff

Fair enough ball sack
I just checked and my number is way off.
Shall we change that to more likelihood of drowning in your bath one in 685,000 dying a terror attack on us soil one in 2,000,0000.
Dying from the war on terror in war ravaged regions of the middle east One in twenty.
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July 5, 2016 4:41pm
starboard

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/81789359/christchurch-lawyer-steven-rollo-faces-drugs-charge

Oh dear oh dear..
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July 5, 2016 4:42pm
starboard

“I just checked and my number is way off.”

But Gwiff, where does that leave your argument on *snigger* global warming ? Surely in tatters? You cant just go around making numbers and shit up. Your global warming argument is now dust as well.
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July 5, 2016 4:45pm
dad4justice

starboard not only gangs run our prisons now the scum make a healthy profit selling P to drug addicted learned types in our dysfunctional justice system. Pass the P pipe your honour!
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July 5, 2016 4:47pm
starboard

The systems broke and bent Dad..it has cancer, bad.
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July 5, 2016 4:51pm
starboard

Aww well, off to the Pig and Whistle zqn for a cold one..anyone in town please swing by for a cold one.
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July 5, 2016 4:53pm
Shawn Herles

“It is imaginary when you think it is going to effect you are anyone you know shank .”

You mean like the family I have in Florida not far from Orlando Griffy? Or the family I have in Ohio who live within walking distance of a resturaunt that was attacked by a Muslim? Or the family I have serving in the US armed forces in the ME? Or just my fellow Americans in general? Or my fellow Westerners?

And I’m sorry for caring about others rather than just myself griffy. Is that your idea for a better world?

“I just checked and my number is way off.”

Again??? Oh dear……

Fap fap griffy. 🙂
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July 5, 2016 4:54pm
mikenmild

Or the family I have serving in the US armed forces?

Probably still less likely to become casualties n the War in Terror than random peasants in Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria.
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July 5, 2016 4:56pm
mikenmild

Here’s a good way to fight terror: ban Facebook users if their name is Isis:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/social-networking/81782317/facebook-banned-isis-thomas-because-of-her-name
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July 5, 2016 4:58pm
big bruv

D4J

Sounds like its time for your long talked about assault on the judiciary, if you have cast iron evidence of wrong doing then it needs to be aired.
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July 5, 2016 4:59pm
mikenmild

I’m familiar with the conundrum as a famous problem in moral philosophy, Scott, but I doubt it has much relevance to deciding how much of the third world needs to be invaded and conquered to keep the world safe from terrorism.

‘It became necessary to destroy the town to save it’
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July 5, 2016 5:00pm
Scott Chris

starboard (4,999 comments) says:
July 5th, 2016 at 4:53 pm
Aww well, off to the Pig and Whistle zqn for a cold one..anyone in town please swing by for a cold one.

What will you be wearing so I know that it’s you?
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July 5, 2016 5:01pm
Shawn Herles

“So it was 100% correct at the time.”

Ohhhhh….at the time eh? Except no, because you excluded 911. But you keep moving those goal posts around griffy. Sooner or later they might actually correspond to reality! Or not.

Fap fap griffy. 🙂
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July 5, 2016 5:02pm
dad4justice

Oh look bb my deranged stalker for 12 years is not letting his unhinged fixation let up.

bb get professional help you obsessed creepy wacko.
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July 5, 2016 5:05pm
calendar girl

Griff @ 9:15am –

“Sorry calender my experience on here says more than half of you can not think at all.”

So, Griff, you dismiss more than 50% of us who comment on GD as being incapable of rational thought? Why do you have to act so offensively and angrily much of the time? I wish sometimes that you would just calm down and debate issues (Brexit, climate change …. whatever) without resort to personal abuse.

“The vote was close. If you held it again today it would go the other way.”

Your vote-reversal prediction is a personal perspective to which you are fully entitled. We cannot know whether you would be correct, or not. It’s a categorical claim that is easy – and inexpensive – to throw out there publicly. But when you make such unprovable claims as though they are irrefutable fact, while accusing Brexit campaigners of telling lies to achieve their democratic objective, you do invite inevitable scepticism.

Let it rest, Griff. More than 30 million UK voters had their say within a well-ordered constitutional structure, and their ultimate decision was reached with a respectable majority. If you wish to become a public advocate from 20,000km away on future UK/EU-related developments, my suggestion is that you keep a wary eye on any attempts by the UK’s political ‘elites’ to frustrate or even negate the people’s choice.
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July 5, 2016 5:08pm
stigie

All will be reveled in the book due out any day now BB..?
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July 5, 2016 5:09pm
dad4justice

Oh look my no life fan club has emerged from the pus.

Very sick and sad people.
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July 5, 2016 5:10pm
Shawn Herles

Griff want’s us to care deeply about the future of the planet with regards to global warming, which has so far killed not a single person, alarmist delusions not withstanding, but we are not allowed to care about global Islamic terrorism, which has killed thousands upon thousands, unless we are each personally victims of it well.

Apart from the sheer heartless lunacy of this view, there is a glaring contradiction here, behind which is griffy’s real motivation, which I will shortly reveal!

Hint: It relates to griffy’s meltdown earlier today over Brexit.
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July 5, 2016 5:15pm
mikenmild

Shawn
Only thousands: the war on terror has killed millions so far.
And you would dismiss concern about climate change because you cannot yet directly attribute any deaths to it? That’s crazy.
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July 5, 2016 5:19pm
Griff

You mean like the family I have in Florida not far from Orlando Griffy? Or the family I have in Ohio who live within walking distance of a resturaunt that was attcked by a Muslim? Or the family I have serving in the US armed forces? Or just my fellow Americans in general? Or my fellow Westerners?

Oh dear fappy still dont get it .
None of your family died. The odds are remote that any one you actually know ever will.
Or did the tribe have a lot of gay braves at the night club?
Is that you at the back?
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2015/11/13/1113-village-people-getty-02-1200×630.jpg

One in twenty in Iraq dead as a result of the USA war on terror 5% of the population.
That is totally wrong.
That you support such needles futile slaughter shows you are not even remotely a christian in any way .
You can not get your head around reality can you.
We in the west are responsible for killing millions of Muslims in a futile war .
Mothers, children, doctors in hospitals, wedding guest, people going about their dally lives.
This results in making more extremist Muslims who attack us in a relatively minor way.
Asymmetrical war fare .
We get a few thousand deaths after killing millions and a gibbering wonk like you just want to go kill a few million more.
Best thing we can do is pull out of the middle east and stop fucking around with their sovereignty .
After a few years it will die down and stabilize.
In the meantime continue watching for possible extremist and doing our best to neutralize the problem We have made for ourselfs.
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July 5, 2016 5:20pm
Shawn Herles

“And you would dismiss concern about climate change because you cannot yet directly attribute any deaths to it?”

On the contrary mike, concern about climate change is perfectly legitimate. My point was the contradiction in griffy’s position.
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July 5, 2016 5:22pm
stigie

“What will you be wearing so I know that it’s you?”

Nothing SC, just a big medallion on a long gold chain that reads “I fly helicoptors”.
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July 5, 2016 5:26pm
Shawn Herles

“None of your family died. The odds are remote that any one you actually know ever will.”

I have seen your use of odds griffy. But again, exactly why can we not care about an issue just because we have not yet been directly affected by it?

This is a bizarre view to have, so bizarre in fact that I don’t think you really believe it. As to why…….. that’s coming up.
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July 5, 2016 5:27pm
big bruv

When is the book being released and the TV series going to air D4J?
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July 5, 2016 5:29pm
itstricky

What will you be wearing so I know that it’s you?

I can only presume he’ll be wearing a helicopter pilot’s uniform, drinking a Singha.
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July 5, 2016 5:31pm
itstricky

I have seen your use of odds griffy. But again, exactly why can we not care about an issue just because we have not yet been directly affected by it?

Like I said last time Shawn, you really need to get your reading comprehension sorted – looks like you’ve skipped about three paragraphs there. Perhaps it’s your eyesight instead?
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July 5, 2016 5:36pm
Griff

Calendar girl if you think the denial of climate change as displayed by around 90% of our commenters is rational you are a gibbering fuckwit.
Because in no way shape or form is it rational to go against the conclusions of every major scientific body on the planet on a question of science .
In fact to do so is the height of irrational behavior verging on totally insane .
The risk is our planet ‘continuing to be habitable for future human civilization. We dont have a handy backup earth two.

while accusing Brexit campaigners of telling lies to achieve their democratic objective,

InFacts UK doesn’t send EU £350m a week or £55m a day – InFacts
infacts.org/uk-doesnt-send-eu-350m-a-week-or-55m-a-day/
Feb 25, 2016 – A favourite eurosceptic myth is that Britain sends £350 million a week or £55 million a day to Brussels. Nigel Farage, Daniel Hannan, Priti Patel …
Why Vote Leave’s £350m weekly EU cost claim is wrong | Politics …
http://www.theguardian.com › World › EU referendum
May 23, 2016 – But still the Vote Leave campaign stands by the claim, splashed in large letters across their battlebus: “We send the EU £350m a week.”.
Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was ‘a mistake’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/…/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mista...
Jun 24, 2016 – Nigel Farage has admitted that it was a “mistake” to promise that £350million a week would be spent on the NHS if the UK backed a Brexit vote.
Cost of the EU – Vote Leave
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_cost
Vote Leave to reduce VAT on fuel bills. BRITAIN SENDS £350 MILLION A WEEK TO THE EU. Since Britain joined the EU in 1973, we have paid over …

[DPF: Too abusive. Strike 5. One month off]
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July 5, 2016 5:39pm
itstricky

just a big medallion on a long gold chain that reads “I fly helicoptors”

SNAP
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July 5, 2016 5:41pm
Shawn Herles

So, to griffy’s real motivation for digging himself into this whole.

If every conservative and Christian person in the world came out tomorrow in favor of abortion, the very next day griffy would be preaching about the evil of abortion.

If every conservative in the world came out tomorow in favour of drug legalisation, the very next day griify would be preaching against it.

And if every conservative in the world came out tomorrow against having any concerns about Islamic terrorism or immigration, the very next day griffy would telling us we must be concerned.

Griffy’s only motivation is his hatred of conservatives, Christians, and other folks on the Right.

This is why griffy is always contradicting himself, and why he always posts as though he is about to explode with rage, as calendar girl notes.

It is why griffy, who claims to be a classical liberal who votes for ACT, the party of LESS government, has been ranting with rage about Brexit and those who support it. Now, someone who really was a classical liberal ACT voter would obviously be in favor of Brexit, because the EU was a big government statists wet dream.

But, most of the conservatives and right wing folks on KB are for Brexit, thus we get griffy totally contradicting his own claimed political ideology and raging against it.

That is the extent of his “rational” thinking on any issue.

I rest my case. 🙂
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July 5, 2016 5:45pm
dad4justice

“When is the book being released and the TV series going to air D4J?”

After you post the ALLEGED emails that I sent you. Come on big mouth lying stalker, put up or fuck up you malicious creep!
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July 5, 2016 5:48pm
mikenmild

Have you been thinking about that argument for a while, Shawn? It is quite a good one: as an illustration of the weakness of your faculties, that is. I hope you didn’t pay to attend that theology diploma mill.
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July 5, 2016 5:54pm
calendar girl

“…….. if you think the denial of climate change as displayed by around 90% of our commenters is rational you are a gibbering fuckwit.”

1. Substantiation of the “around 90%” claim?

2. The personal abuse continues ……….
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July 5, 2016 5:58pm
AgentBallSack

I hope starboard makes his 5,000th comment a doozy.
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July 5, 2016 5:59pm
big bruv

Come on D4J. You have been telling us for years that you are going to be vindicated and that the judiciary will be exposed as corrupt. You also told us that you were going to be the subject of a documentary and that I in particular should expect a knock on the door from a film crew.

Seems that was all lies as well D4J
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July 5, 2016 6:00pm
AgentBallSack

Fact 1. The climate changes. Every fucking day.
Fact 2. Ergo Griff believes we should be taxed because weather
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July 5, 2016 6:02pm
Shawn Herles

“Calendar girl if you think the denial of climate change as displayed by around 90% of our commenters is rational you are a gibbering fuckwit.”

Mike, didn’t you say last night I was the one headed for an epic meltdown? 🙂

Oops…..

And funny how you have recently become very concerned about personal abuse, but never have anything to say about Griff’s?

Gee, I wonder why? 🙂
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July 5, 2016 6:05pm
mikenmild

No Shawn, but you are a bit overdue for one of your cringing apologies for your unchristian behaviour…
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July 5, 2016 6:06pm
itstricky

It is why griffy, who claims to be a classical liberal who votes for ACT, the party of LESS government, has been ranting with rage about Brexit and those who support it. Now, someone who really was a classical liberal ACT voter would obviously be in favor of Brexit, because the EU was a big government statists wet dream.

Ew ew ew how about….. not every person falls into a left versus right, black versus white bucket and they have their own opinions on different issues and chose a political party based on what most closely matches their ideals in the most number of categories, not whether they’re “left” or “right”?

Or is that not stereotypical enough?
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July 5, 2016 6:07pm
seanmaitland

Hi, does anyone know about buying something online and shipping to NZ, if the amount (item has free shipping) is exactly $400.00 – then do customs charge GST or anything else – or does it have to be > $400 to attract those charges?
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July 5, 2016 6:08pm
dad4justice

“Seems that was all lies as well D4J”

Post the ALLEGED emails that you claim to have, if you cannot, which can be guaranteed be known on kiwiblog as a pathological liar who has stalked a fellow blogger for 12 years.

For the last time big blouse get some professional help for your mental state. Please we all get tired of your malicious lies year after fucking year. What a sad arse lying loser. Get a life nutjob.
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July 5, 2016 6:10pm
AgentBallSack

Jesus in the time I have been here Griff has gone from being a mild mannered pot smoking boat captain into:

A> A stephiebitch supporting apologist/denier of Islam atrocities
B> A global warming crank
C> AN EAD supporting 1st world hater
D> He was always good at abusing people

(I like lists)
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July 5, 2016 6:13pm
stigie

7713 comments of pure anger, there must be some decent help out there surely !~
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July 5, 2016 6:16pm
AgentBallSack

Sean you might need to ring IRD. Knowing them as soon as it hits NZ $400.00 it will incur GST plus customs duty
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July 5, 2016 6:18pm
dad4justice

Hey stigfly; have you had a malicious narcissistic stalker like the deranged big bruv hassle you for 12 years you no life dropkick?
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July 5, 2016 6:19pm
big bruv

stigie

I have been saying that to D4J for years, he just refuses to see that he has huge anger issues. Its no wonder he is well known to the Police and the Judiciary.
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July 5, 2016 6:23pm
nasska

It’s only a bit of gentle teasing Dad. 🙂
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July 5, 2016 6:23pm
AgentBallSack

D4J why don’t you just change nom de guerre then he won’t know who you are? If it bothers you that much.
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July 5, 2016 6:23pm
AgentBallSack

Speaking of Judicially recognised people, I am surprised Penny hasn’t been in today while she’s waiting for her bath to run.
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July 5, 2016 6:25pm
Nookin

Please we all get tired of your malicious lies year after fucking year.

Sorry dad, I rather think that most of us simply gloss over what he says.

Against that, there is of course the somewhat tantalising prospect of another meltdown and occasionally that prospect pricks the attention of the mind.

Do you think, perhaps, that it might help you if you ignored him altogether and contributed to the debate rather than engage in a flame war. I know that mikenmild would be more than keen to engage you in constructive conversation.
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July 5, 2016 6:25pm
Happychappy

So are all union bosses all fat or ugly, after watching a few they are either fat or doing angry Andy routines.
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July 5, 2016 6:25pm
dad4justice

I know who big bruv is ( thanks RB) shall I tell you why the deranged mental hates me so much?
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July 5, 2016 6:26pm
Lucia Maria

ABS,

I don’t think C is correct on your list, or else I haven’t been paying attention.

Shawn,

I am a right-wing conservative (though on the political spectrum test my result is closer to right-centrist, slightly authoritarian) and I do not support Brexit. I don’t think Conservatives, who in general should be cautious of radical change should be supporting it. It seems to be it’s more in line with a fuck you, anarchistic attitude, with the spirit behind it being somewhat diabolical in nature. In that the diabolic seem to always be striving to destroy and/or break apart bonds, relationships and create disharmony.
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July 5, 2016 6:27pm
Shawn Herles

BB and D4J,

I have a possible solution to this problem. It involves a nice meal at McD’s followed by a hotel room, some massage oil, a poster of Ritchie with his shirt off on the wall….

Give it a try guys, it could do wonders for you both! 🙂
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July 5, 2016 6:31pm
Nookin

I know who big bruv is ( thanks RB) shall I tell you why the deranged mental hates me so much?

I rather think that opening the closet door to see what lurks behind is rather frowned upon here, dad. As Nasska says, bb is simply pulling your tit. If you really wanted to drive him to distraction and leave him frothing and cowering in a corner, perhaps you could write a series of articles about how great the All Blacks are and why they are and always will be the best team in the world.
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July 5, 2016 6:31pm
Griff

act 1. The climate changes. Every fucking day.
Fact 2. Ergo Griff believes we should be taxed because weather
A> A stephiebitch supporting apologist/denier of Islam atrocities
B> A global warming crank
C> AN EAD supporting 1st world hater
D> He was always good at abusing people

Climate is not weather by convention it is the average of weather over thirty years so your ignorance is on display.
We have economists saying we must do something or the future cost will become higher than the cost of doing something now.
soo you are happy to sell the future of humanity for your own greed.

I dont deny Muslim terrorism i just think it help to place things in perspective .
The rout shewn is taking will only make it worse for all .his attitude will result in manufacturing more extremism not helping to make things better.
Global warming is real…. If all the worlds major scientific body’s support my position I am not the crank you are .
I dont hate the first world
I do hate American aggression and think it has made the problem far worse not better a well as resulted in millions of needles deaths.
I hope I bring imagination to insults and are complemented by the number of times people inadvertently pick up on my style in senseless abuse.
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July 5, 2016 6:32pm
dad4justice

Nookin if that lying gutter snake cannot put up on here ALLEGED emails that I sent him then the cowardly creep should leave this blog. You are a lawyer surely that is a fair request. I am sick of this lying criminal.
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July 5, 2016 6:34pm
Nookin

Criminal?
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July 5, 2016 6:37pm
Griff

Lucia Maria
I must complement you on your resent comments.
You have been exemplary in your condemnation of our more out there commenters lately.
It is good to see a Conservative thinking for them self and unafraid to say it rather than joining the herd mentally on a range of issues
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July 5, 2016 6:38pm
AgentBallSack

heh Griff…
Well played sir!
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July 5, 2016 6:39pm
dad4justice

Yes Nookin, big bruv is a criminal who is lying with malicious intent on a public blog.
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July 5, 2016 6:41pm
stigie

“I know who big bruv is ( thanks RB) shall I tell you why the deranged mental hates me so much?”

Go on then Dad, what have you got to lose..?
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July 5, 2016 6:50pm
AgentBallSack

Lucia would you agree that the left seem to have abandoned anarchy for the far less worthwhile pursuit of restricting thought crimes? Perhaps that’s a void thats being filled by neo conservatives?
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July 5, 2016 6:50pm
dad4justice

“Go on then Dad, what have you got to lose..?”

When bigot blouse posts the ALLEGED threatening emails I sent him on this blog you will ALL know who it is ( might shock you ) lol I will have the lying creep in court faster than Crusher can chainsaw a Department of Erections ankle bracelet from her smelly foot.
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July 5, 2016 6:55pm
cha

Woohoo!, off the batteries.

NASA’s Juno Mission Verified account
‏@NASAJuno

All rays on me. My solar panels now face the sun. I’m the farthest solar-powered spacecraft from Earth. #Jupiter

https://twitter.com/NASAJuno/status/750188366562414592
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July 5, 2016 6:56pm
cha

FFS.
/

One Nation Party leader Pauline Hanson says Australia’s vaccination program could be linked to rising rates of autism and disease.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30540710/pauline-hanson-would-think-twice-about-vaccinating-her-children-again-because-of-cancer-and-autism-risks/
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July 5, 2016 7:02pm
Nostradamus

Penny has a date with a High Court Judge – the Chief High Court Judge in fact – tomorrow:

BEFORE THE HON. JUSTICE VENNING
CHIEF HIGH COURT JUDGE

NO 7 COURT Ground Floor 10.00am

CIV2016-404-538 PENELOPE MARY BRIGHT (In person) v AUCKLAND COUNCIL (K Quinn)

Application for leave to appeal and the Substantive appeal against the decision of the Decision of the District Court

I’m sure Penny would like us to join her!
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July 5, 2016 7:03pm
dad4justice

Oh poor bigot blouse is telling serious lies without consequences . You hang with slimy scoundrels stigie, but I suppose you know no better.
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