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Shawn Herles

D4J, did you forget to take your meds today?
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July 4, 2016 7:56pm
dad4justice

stigfly; crusher couldn’t crush candy ask whaleoil.

Hey gator killer the old meds line how moronic.
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July 4, 2016 7:57pm
Viking2

So most of you have filled your day with hate etc but no one managed to note that the National Socialist Party that Governs is now moving even more to communism.

Building Minister says Cabinet considering granting compulsory acquisition powers for Urban Development Authorities; initially says could be used to combat land-bankers,

Housing and Building Minister Nick Smith has signalled Cabinet will consider creating Urban Development Authorities (UDAs) with the power to compulsorily acquire land, including from land-bankers.

However, he has cautioned that compulsory acquisition would not be used specifically as a tool to target land-bankers.

Obviously the issue of overriding private title for development is a big call, but my view is if we are going to get the quality of urban development, particularly in the redevelopment area where you can often have a real mix of little titles that makes doing a sensible development difficult, in my view it’s one of things we’ll need to consider,” he said.
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So Mr Green communist Smith thinks it is acceptable in his considered view to usurp the private Property Rights of NZer’s.

So what say the rest of you National Socialists?
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July 4, 2016 7:59pm
Reid

know as I’ve gone down the path of learning, it has caused gut wrenching changes in my “world view“. What was once “black” becomes “white” and visa versa.

Yes EAD.

I used to be a Cold Warrier, for example. As did Peter Lavelle and The Saker.

It was 911 that changed all that, for me.

After a few months of sifting through the evidence, as it was, in 2002, I one night, just came in my mind to the conclusion that they really really had, in fact, no doubt about it, done it. I didn’t even know who “they” were at the time, I didn’t need to know. I just knew for a fact the official story didn’t stack up and the media wasn’t covering what was, and is, extraordinarily obvious, if you’re not a dipped in the propaganda drench Western sheeple.

Of course, the sheeple will pick up on my “I didn’t need to know” remark and bray and bray and bray about how – to them – “unscientific” my conclusion was since I didn’t even know who “they” were.

The best way of setting people off on the path of learning is to explain the nature & history of money and why interest rates must continue to trend to zero if the monetary system is not to collapse. Once they understand, I then ask them work out who benefits and they’re on their way

You think that’s the best way because you’re a financial analyst.

Whereas I think the best way, is to learn em re: 911, because I’m a geopolitical analyst.

Isn’t that interesting.

Sadly EAD, most of them here aren’t interested, not because they don’t care, but because they don’t know how important it is.

Christians come up against this all-the-time too.

Interesting, isn’t it.

There is no one answer, which doesn’t mean there isn’t an answer, it simply means, no-one to date has discovered the right formulae, and perhaps that’s just the way it’s meant to be.

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be.

And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

Max Ehrmann, “Desiderata”.

The thing that strikes me EAD about people who know what you and I know and there are quite a few I’ve met since that ephiphany in 2002, is that while they’re not always religious, they’re all extremely spiritual. Perhaps destructing the material nature of this world which the sheeple cling to, holds the key to breaking through to them. Who knows.
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July 4, 2016 8:00pm
Shawn Herles

“So most of you have filled your day with hate etc but no one managed to note that the National Socialist Party that Governs is now moving even more to communism.”

Is it a full moon tonight? 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:04pm
Viking2

So most of you have filled your day with hate etc bu no one managed to note that the National Socialist Party that Governs is now moving even more to communism.

Building Minister says Cabinet considering granting compulsory acquisition powers for Urban Development Authorities; initially says could be used to combat land-bankers,

Housing and Building Minister Nick Smith has signalled Cabinet will consider creating Urban Development Authorities (UDAs) with the power to compulsorily acquire land, including from land-bankers.

However, he has cautioned that compulsory acquisition would not be used specifically as a tool to target land-bankers.

Obviously the issue of overriding private title for development is a big call, but my view is if we are going to get the quality of urban development, particularly in the redevelopment area where you can often have a real mix of little titles that makes doing a sensible development difficult, in my view it’s one of things we’ll need to consider,” he said.

http://www.interest.co.nz/news/82418/building-minister-says-cabinet-considering-granting-compulsory-acquisition-powers-urban
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So Mr Green communist Smith thinks it is acceptable in his considered view to usurp the private Property Rights of NZer’s.

So what say the rest of you National Socialists?
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July 4, 2016 8:04pm
mikenmild

I’m a geopolitical analyst.

LOL. And I’m a professional jelly wrestler and publish crime novels in my spare time…
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July 4, 2016 8:06pm
Viking2

Mossack Fonseca is just one of dozens, if not hundreds, of fast moving global oriented firms arranging the likes of NZ companies, trusts and financial service provider registration for clients scattered all around the world.

In 2012 the NZ Cabinet was told that the Companies Office monitored 77 trust and company service providers who had created many of 1,200 companies categorized as “high risk” by the Companies Office.

The Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment (MBIE), under whose umbrella the Companies Office is located, won’t name the 77.
Our map below includes the names of, and links to websites of an array of company formation agents based all around the world. All of these promote NZ vehicles, including companies, trusts, financial service providers and look through companies. Some also offer onshore office and mail forwarding services.

http://www.interest.co.nz/news/82400/why-mossack-fonseca-far-alone-and-why-problem-new-zealand

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High stakes

Did the reforms work? Certainly, the Companies Office’s almost total demolition of two large rogue incorporation franchises, GT Group and The Company Net, which took place between 2008 and 2011, does seem to have put the brakes on the NZ shell co business. GT Group and The Company Net fronted for a variety of dubious international agents and their even more dubious clients.

Isolated slip-ups by the Companies Office emphasize the stakes: here’s a 2014 story about a GT Group company that, because of an oversight, didn’t get wiped off the register, at a cost to someone, somewhere in the former Soviet Union, of $600 million.

More recently there’s also Fennas Finance Ltd, which helped a shady offshore entity use an ANZ bank account as a Ponzi scheme depository.

But the reforms, which include the Companies Amendment Act 2014 covered in our previous story, have certainly not snuffed out all the problems.

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Interesting read.
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Much more.

One of the major advantages of utilising New Zealand companies is that New Zealand is a full member of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (O.E.C.D) and is not considered as a harmful tax jurisdiction.

If properly structured, a New Zealand resident company can operate as a tax free international business company. There is great flexibility in the incorporation and management of a New Zealand Company. It has no capital requirements and has a simple and fast incorporation procedure.

It’s not just NZ companies and financial service providers that are promoted overseas: Limited partnerships, foreign trusts and look through companies appear as well. Both limited partnerships and foreign trusts are now showing up in coverage of fraud and corruption stories, for instance here, here and here.
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This all raises obvious questions for the current anti-money laundering regime. First, does it seem at all sensible to control local company agents, while exercising no control whatsoever over the activities of overseas agents? Second, does MBIE have any idea if any of these overseas agents are reporting entities under anti-money laundering laws in their home jurisdictions? And then, if it turns out they’re not regulated anywhere, whose job is it to protect NZ’s good name by attempting to introduce the appropriate controls?
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July 4, 2016 8:07pm
Shawn Herles

Reid claims: “because I’m a geopolitical analyst.”

Yep, must be a full moon! 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:07pm
Shawn Herles

“And I’m a professional jelly wrestler and publish crime novels in my spare time…”

Are they crime novels about professional jelly wrestlers? Because I would be into reading one of those. 😉
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July 4, 2016 8:10pm
nasska

….”I’m a professional jelly wrestler”….

Did the implants make the punters more generous? 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:11pm
Viking2

mikenmild (23,029 comments) says:
July 4th, 2016 at 8:06 pm

I’m a geopolitical analyst.

LOL. And I’m a professional jelly wrestler and publish crime novels in my spare time…
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I have often wondered. It all makes sense now.
😆
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July 4, 2016 8:12pm
nasska

The public servant persona was just a cover.

All along he was Silky lips from the Quarry Inn! 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:16pm
stigie

“Because I would be into reading one of those.”

It’s really a novel on the art of B+D Shawn..?
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July 4, 2016 8:19pm
Shawn Herles

“It’s really a novel on the art of B+D Shawn..?”

Heh, the mind boggles stigie. 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:22pm
dad4justice

Shawnee surely you should be out gator killing tonight?
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July 4, 2016 8:24pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

Now, speaking of Mikenmild and the Quarry Inn, any update on the chopped liver, dwarf and live geese?
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July 4, 2016 8:25pm
nasska

I’m looking forward to Mike giving us the good oil on that very soon Nostra.

Now that his cover’s blown he might as well confess. 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:28pm
Odakyu-sen

Sorry boys, it’s a new moon tonight.

The next full moon will be on July 20th (Wed.). The jelly should be at its maximum strength around about that time, so I will look forward to great posts from mikenmild (complete with plot twists).
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July 4, 2016 8:29pm
Shawn Herles

“Shawnee surely you should be out gator killing tonight?”

I would be happy to D4J, but, and I know this may come as a great shock to an intellectual giant such as yourself, there are no gators in NZ. 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:30pm
dad4justice

Oh my bad gator killer are there any footprints on the moon?
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July 4, 2016 8:31pm
Shawn Herles

There are no gator footprints on the moon D4J. 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:34pm
mikenmild

Dark Side of the Moon is a classic album about mental illness, D4J.
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July 4, 2016 8:37pm
dad4justice

Hey mikeymould did your wacko brother teach you to walk on the moon like he did Shawnee gal?

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=michael+jackson+moonwalk&view=detail&mid=B8F0136D40583F564BFDB8F0136D40583F564BFD&FORM=VIRE
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July 4, 2016 8:39pm
mikenmild

No D4J, my professional commitment leave little time for dancing.
Could I ask you to respect DPF’s comments policy please, and make sure you use Kiwibloggers’ correct aliases?
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July 4, 2016 8:41pm
dad4justice

My bad mm hate for a jellyfish to get offended again.
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July 4, 2016 8:44pm
stigie

“Could I ask you to respect DPF’s comments policy please”

I would imagine he is relaxed about correct aliases Milky, there’s been no problem yet from memory..?
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July 4, 2016 8:46pm
Reid

LOL. And I’m a professional jelly wrestler and publish crime novels in my spare time…

I didn’t see you dummies explaining there weren’t any WMDs in Iraq, or Libya and then Syria were regime change ops years before all of these became accepted truths.

Why don’t you use some of Nosty’s keywords if you doubt the record.

Oh wait, some of you dummies still haven’t accepted even one of those.

Aren’t dummies etc.
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July 4, 2016 8:53pm
Shawn Herles

“hate for a jellyfish to get offended again.”

We don’t mind if you get offended D4J. Not at all. 🙂
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July 4, 2016 8:55pm
Awww C-mon

“Careful what you say Dad, she could come round to your place and crush ya balls ole chap !~”

Hmmm plenty of issues with this idea, you can all think of the obvious but the one that remains for me is where would crushers get her pumps from going forward? It’s common knowledge in uncommon places that crusher only shops for shoes in Christchurch on Tuesday’s that coincide with a waning moon.
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July 4, 2016 8:58pm
stigie

Most of us here don’t get offended Dad, otherwise we would all be on medication !~
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July 4, 2016 8:59pm
dad4justice

I thought everybody in my sad fan club was heavily medicated on jellyfish pills?
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July 4, 2016 9:01pm
Reid

Guess you dummies are going to go all quiet like Captain Bananas did when I showed him the hand signals above.

Nothing to say?

Of course not.

Dummies.
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July 4, 2016 9:05pm
Awww C-mon

thought everybody in my sad fan club was heavily medicated on jellyfish pills?

Edit

It turns out that everybody in my sad fan club is heavily entertained on my sad jellyfish thrills?

Much better ?
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July 4, 2016 9:07pm
Shawn Herles

Reid, how did your claim that Jeb Bush was going to win the nomination because it had been ordained for years before due to him being pro-Israel pan out?

“Guess you dummies are going to go all quiet like Captain Bananas did when I showed him the hand signals above.”

I saw them. I was busy laughing my ass off! 🙂
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July 4, 2016 9:10pm
dad4justice

How Awwwwwwwwwwwwful James Sleep. Son of Helen lives on.
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July 4, 2016 9:10pm
Awww C-mon

Yeah on reading it back it wasn’t my best work, I got rusty during your little timeout. Who is James ?
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July 4, 2016 9:15pm
EAD

@ Reid,

9/11 is in many ways the litmus test. For me it rattled my world view but didn’t change it. I mean the inability of American planes to protect the skies, the “found, intact” passports at ground zero (pleeease), the BBC predetermined calling the collapse of WT7 early (and why the hell did that collapse when not struck), the speed of the Towers free fall, the impossability of hitting the Pentagon with a commercial airliner, Silverstein’s “fortunate timing” – just questionable “fact” after questionable fact being presented as gospel with no critical rigour or debate….

I certainly became a skeptic then but perhaps too young, time constrained and interested in a good time to really put it all together.

The GFC, living in Airstrip One and the 2008 Ron Paul campaign did it for me.
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July 4, 2016 9:15pm
Awww C-mon

Oi, calling anyone a union hack and supporter of the living wage is a step too far! That’s low even for a guy who lives his life as a replica of Al Bundy!
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July 4, 2016 9:19pm
big bruv

Oh look, D4J is back seeking attention.
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July 4, 2016 9:19pm
Shawn Herles

Oh look, Reid has gone all quiet after one of his “analytical predictions” was shown to be complete gobshite. 🙂
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July 4, 2016 9:20pm
mikenmild

You’re so funny, Reid. You will probably be cited in scientific papers as a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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July 4, 2016 9:20pm
Captain Mainwaring

I see D4J’s back, but for how long before his excitement gets the better of him and he’s gone again?
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July 4, 2016 9:24pm
dad4justice

oh look my jellyfish stalker for 12 years bb has slid in . How surprising. What kind of creep stalks someone for such a long period? How can you treat such an unhealthy fixation?

Sad stuff from insecure nutjobs.
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July 4, 2016 9:25pm
stigie

“but for how long before his excitement gets the better of him and he’s gone again?”

The next full moon is on the 20th i believe..?
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July 4, 2016 9:28pm
Shawn Herles

Reid (20,364 comments) says:
March 22nd, 2015 at 10:01 pm
Wouldn’t it be amazing if both parties’ nominees were women!
Yeah but d’oh. Jeb Bush has already been chosen. This is just softening up Hilary for the big defeat that was pre-ordained, ages ago, in Las Vegas, when Sheldon decided Jeb was the best pro-Israel US pres, next time.
Therefore, no-one else has a chance.
Hence the email “scandals” to undermine the next runner.
Etc etc etc.
Duh.
Don’t you even know how to read the puppet show?

Reid (20,364 comments) says:
April 14th, 2015 at 6:45 pm
Well Sheldon Adelson annointed Jeb in Las Vegas last year Kea so it’d be surprising if he didn’t “miraculously” win, wouldn’t it.

So according to Reid Jeb Bush was absolutely going to win and no other candidate stood a chance, because Jeb had been annointed by a Satanic Jew. And possibly Mickey Mouse.

Reid’s anylitical predictions at ther best. 🙂
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July 4, 2016 9:28pm
Ryan Sproull

Guess you dummies are going to go all quiet like Captain Bananas did when I showed him the hand signals above.

Nothing to say?

Of course not.

Dummies.

Reid, is there anything anyone could say about that list that would convince you that it’s not a strong argument for the claim that a vast array of photographed people are conscious Satanists giving secret signals to each other?
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July 4, 2016 9:30pm
dad4justice

Captain – have you experienced a malicious stalker for 12 years?
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July 4, 2016 9:31pm
Reid

Jeb had Sheldon Adelson’s support Cap’n, that’s why I picked him. Then Sheldon switched to Trump, which is why I now pick him.

I know its complicated, for you and Wichard, but it’s not for those of us who understand who to follow.

See, it’s not just follow the money, it’s follow the people too.

BTW Captain, explain the hand signals and all those photos? No, of course you can’t.
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July 4, 2016 9:32pm
Shawn Herles

“I know its complicated”

No Reid, it’s not. You were talking utter shite.

“BTW Captain, explain the hand signals and all those photos? No, of course you can’t.”

Sure I can. It means nothing at all. It’s a silly hand sign from the Heavy Metal subculture. It has no relation to real Satanism, any more than Anton Levey and COS do. Or Aleister Crowley for that matter.
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July 4, 2016 9:38pm
Shawn Herles

Seriously Reid, real Satanists, who are few and far between, are not on the TV or any other medium making rock music hand signs to each other so they can be photgraphed.
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July 4, 2016 9:46pm
Reid

Sure I can. It means nothing at all. It’s a silly hand sign from the Heavy Metal subculture.

No it’s not dummy. Didn’t you see the politicians, the ancient art, as I explained in my original post?

Of course you did, you just can’t help lying when you’re proven, repeat proven wrong.

Not very Christian Shawn.

You should be ashamed.

Especially when all I’m doing, is pointing out our mutual adversary.

Why do you protest against that?

Interesting.

Perhaps you should ask God.

Seriously Reid, real Satanists, who are few and far between

There were a couple in that long list of photos Captain, but you didn’t even recognise them.

How ignorant of you.

But no surprises there.
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July 4, 2016 9:47pm
nasska

….”Brexit campaigner Nigel Farage is resigning as head of the UK Independence Party, saying he had realised his ambition of Britain voting to leave the European Union.

Mr Farage said on Monday he had “done my bit” following the referendum.

“What I said during the referendum campaign is I want my country back. What I’m saying today is I want my life back,” he said.”…..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/81756299/farage-to-resign-as-ukip-leader
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July 4, 2016 9:56pm
Shawn Herles

“No it’s not dummy. Didn’t you see the politicians, the ancient art, as I explained in my original post?”

Yes I did, but your claims and what is real are not the same thing. And the so-called ancient art (Victorian era inventions in reality) has nothing to do with real Satanism.

“Of course you did, you just can’t help lying when you’re proven, repeat proven wrong.”

Sorry Reid, but all you proved was how gullible you are.

“There were a couple in that long list of photos Captain, but you didn’t even recognise them.”

No, sorry Reid, but there really weren’t. I have met the real thing. You have not.

“Especially when all I’m doing, is pointing out our mutual adversary.”

No, you really weren’t. But if you want to go there, what you were doing is exactly what the Enemy wants you to do. Get diverted by, and focused on, total irrelevant silliness.

The problem Reid, is that you dealing with an area where I am the closest thing to an expert you will likely ever meet. I actually get paid to deal with it. Which is how I know you are talking complete shite.
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July 4, 2016 9:58pm
Reid

The problem Reid, is that you dealing with an area where I am the closest thing to an expert you will likely ever meet. I actually get paid to deal with it.

I don’t imagine you get paid much Captain, you’re pretty hopeless.

But if you want to go there, what you were doing is exactly what the Enemy wants you to do.

What, you mean like hallucinating ancient satanic hand signals are the sign language for “I wove you” when they were painted 300+ years ago and there are dozens of examples merely in the link I gave?

Yeah right.

This is why you’re bananas, Captain.

Anyway, I tire of your meanderings, begone worm. You’re just not worth it.
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July 4, 2016 10:06pm
Shawn Herles

Reid, stick to subjects you actually know something about.

Ummmmm…….

Well, I’m sure there’s something….

Do you collect stamps? 🙂
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July 4, 2016 10:15pm
cha

Cha you fuckwit,

Oh joy,*blush*he capitalises my handle ….just like RB did….
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July 4, 2016 10:52pm
Left Right and Centre

Feral update . . .
Brown man and woman waiting at bus shelter. Very small child is seated in shopping trolley – that’s it.
Right in the fuckin wind – northerly – in a trolley – in the evening – while they sit on their arse – blank stare – two metres away. Leaving the child to rot in the cold. They’ve even got the child’s face left looking into the northerly ffs
Morons. Total, total, total fucking morons.

Know what I had on ? Six layers – singlets, t shirts, jersey and vest – and these cunts leave this tiny little child in the wind in a trolley.
I should’ve called the cops – child abuse. Unfit to look after a tiny child. No wonder the children get sick – shithead loser lowlifes who should be locked up – kids taken off them. Oh well – as long as the $$$$ keep rolling in, who gives a fuck, yeah ?
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July 5, 2016 5:40am
Viking2

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has insisted a British trade deal would have to include freedom of movement.

Well she would wouldn’t she.

Finance minister George Osborne plans to slash corporation tax to under 15 per cent – the lowest for any major economy – in a bid to keep businesses in Britain, the Financial Times reported.

Hurry up Bill we are going to get left behind again.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11668638
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