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stephieboy

Johnboy , I thought this kind of gun would be more appropriate given its historical associations ?

https://www.collegehillarsenal.com/shop/images/P/FLA-1602-Product.jpg
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July 2, 2016 5:12pm
Johnboy

Anyway Shawn… When did your 80 year old Uncle Festus get a Barrett .50 to kill his Alligators?

Lost his bottle on going into the swamp with the knife I take it? 🙂
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July 2, 2016 5:13pm
Johnboy

Jeeze stephie. I’m a peaceable man….I prefer to go in with the old mutton gun after softening up the target with appropriate words and soothing gestures old chap! 🙂
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July 2, 2016 5:16pm
Shawn Herles

“When your 80 year old Uncle Festus get a Barrett .50 to kill his Alligators?”

So long as he stays off the shine before using it JB. Otherwise things might get a little interesting. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 5:17pm
Shawn Herles

Reid@ 5.11

Very good post.
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July 2, 2016 5:18pm
Reid

This is interesting.

The question of whether or not Putin is genuine or merely playing out an act just like Hitler, Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt did, to name but a few, has always been on my mind, and my jury’s still out. But this is an interesting potential piece in the jigsaw.

http://369news.net/what-does-the-royal-arch-freemason-vladimir-putin-have-to-do-with-her-majestys-secret-service/
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July 2, 2016 5:41pm
stephieboy

Reid , how deep and esoteric ! What next Putin the authentic reincarnation of the original Dali Lama ?
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July 2, 2016 5:45pm
Captain Mainwaring

“Don the Kiwi , naturally you will blame Bangladesh’s 156 million Muslims for the attack ?”

Stephieidiot. I’m sure Don won’t blame ALL of them.
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July 2, 2016 5:47pm
Steve (North Shore)

Reid @ 5.11.
Didn’t take long for the Real Estate maggots to start did it?
Thanks for the link, I liked it
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July 2, 2016 5:52pm
stephieboy

Captain Mainwaring , sometimes I do have to wonder given the all persuasive Islamaphobia that is abroad !
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July 2, 2016 5:56pm
Fisiani

The History Boys in Wellington is almost sold out. Just a few tickets left for Wednesday but I hear a strong rumour of the cast doing an extra matineee on final day.
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July 2, 2016 6:04pm
Shawn Herles

There is no such thing as Islamaphobia. When millions of Muslims support violent jihadist terrorists, when even an al-Jazeera poll showed almost half of the Muslims polled suported and agreed with bin Laden, it’s rational concern, not a phobia.
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July 2, 2016 6:05pm
Johnboy

” all persuasive Islamaphobia that is abroad !”

It’s not when the towelheads are abroad that we worry about stephie! 🙂
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July 2, 2016 6:06pm
Shawn Herles

Every poll ever done shows between 15 to 20% of the world’s 1.6 billion Muslims support terrorism. That means the number of Muslims who support terrorism is close to the population size of the USA.
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July 2, 2016 6:11pm
Manolo

@stephieboy: Help me with this: are you an Islamophile or not? A yes or no answer would be decisive to clear any lingering doubts.
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July 2, 2016 6:13pm
Johnboy

Islam is a bloody peace loving religion Shawn and dont you forget it infidel! 🙂
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July 2, 2016 6:15pm
nasska

It’s his turn in the goat costume after prayers tomorrow Manolo. ?
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July 2, 2016 6:17pm
Johnboy

The worst thing about Islam in their own countries is that you cant target them. Sunni/Shite….they all look like shite to us!

Here we can target them if they decide to get stroppy…..they all look like shite to us! 🙂
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July 2, 2016 6:19pm
Shawn Herles

There is far too much goat fucking going on here at KB, far too much! 🙂
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July 2, 2016 6:27pm
Reid

Reid , how deep and esoteric ! What next Putin the authentic reincarnation of the original Dali Lama ?

stupidboy what gives me sadness is when the weapons fly you’ll still be meandering in the maze of confusion, lost and lonely, seeing nothing but a hedge in front and on all sides, wondering WTF happened, and having no clues whatsoever.

And what’s sad about it is: you won’t be alone, and neither will your innocent families.
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July 2, 2016 6:28pm
Johnboy

What’s happened to Dad?

Did he die in a plane crash after Richie parachuted to safety? 🙂
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July 2, 2016 6:28pm
Shawn Herles

He popped up a few days back JB, shouted various accusations at all and sundry, and has not been seen since.
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July 2, 2016 6:35pm
Johnboy

I miss Dad and Kea and sob sob….Yvette. 🙂 🙂
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July 2, 2016 6:47pm
Longknives

“What’s happened to Dad?-Did he die in a plane crash after Richie parachuted to safety? ”

Rumours are that Dad got impaled on Richie’s joystick..
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July 2, 2016 7:07pm
Reid

Rumours are that Dad got impaled on Richie’s joystick..

Since he was therefore “the pitcher” does that mean anything in the
LGBTIwhateverisnextyoubetsomethingelseiscomingnopunintended world, or not?

I’m just confused, these days, I hope the LGBTIwhateveretc world don’t treat that as offensive and prosecute me or anything, I just don’t know what to do, it’s so hard (no pun intended).

What do you (they) no pun intended, want?

???

!!!

I so solly.

Crikey, that’s wacist now isn’t it.

O.

M.

G.
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July 2, 2016 7:18pm
Manolo

Johnboy, do you prefer goats to sheep? Juat confess, mate,
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July 2, 2016 7:18pm
Shawn Herles

“I miss Dad and Kea and sob sob”

You’re not right in the head JB, you know that don’t you. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 7:21pm
Rachael Membery

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11667713

So refugees have access to over $NZ4k? Do we need to redefine refugee?
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July 2, 2016 7:23pm
Shawn Herles

“Since he was therefore “the pitcher” does that mean anything in the
LGBTIwhateverisnextyoubetsomethingelseiscomingnopunintended world, or not?”

It means two things Reid. One, rugby union supporters have started a petition to have Dad banned from being anywhere within 20 meters of any rugby player.

And two, the LGBTwhateverisnextyoubetsomethingelseiscomingnopunintended have started a petition to have Dad banned from being anywhere within 20 meters of any LGBT-whatever person.

Hope that clears things up! 🙂
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July 2, 2016 7:27pm
stephieboy

Shawn Herles , alright I’ll revert back to Muslim bashing and hating that you excel !

“When millions of Muslims support violent jihadist terrorists, ” ?

Which millions exactly ?
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July 2, 2016 7:33pm
Yvette

In the same line as Dad and Kea already, Johnboy? Etes-vous sûr de cela?
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July 2, 2016 7:40pm
Shawn Herles

“Which millions exactly ?”

These ones. The article cites numerous reputable polls of Muslim opinion. If you do the math, it means while those that do support terrorism are a minority, neverteless that minority is literally millions of Muslims.

‘Obama’s Bad Math on Islamic Terrorism’

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427439/muslims-terrorism-president-obama
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July 2, 2016 7:41pm
cmm

Bloody stuff again….

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/81693304/trafficking-attempt-to-send-100-tamil-refugees-to-new-zealand-by-ferry-thwarted

They show a ‘heart-string-tugging” photo of a woman + baby in a refugee camp in 2009. Sure they acknowledge that it was 2009, but it is still deliberately misleading to show this in the article.

Didn’t see any photos of bombed-out London in the Brexit reports.
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July 2, 2016 7:44pm
Shawn Herles

Also Reid, I’m going to go out on a limb and say that even if Dad was the pitcher, Richie’s still the butch one in that scenario. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 7:46pm
Griff

The ones he found in his nutty webshites stephie
You now that sort of bullshit sites that say Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder as news
When it turns out not even the NRA think he is an anti gun senator and the incident happened almost ten year ago.Shawnee is a loon reading loon sites quaking and pissing him self in fear of an imaginary foe .
Because the moooslums are coming to get him.
Poor scared little whacko.
He has more chance of being accidentally shot by one of his inbreed rellys.
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July 2, 2016 7:48pm
Griff

The national review shawnee?
They have rubbish by the discovery Discovery Institute.
You know the earth was created by god 6000 years ago and that sort of stupidity.
You really should find a better class of bullshite Shawnee.
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July 2, 2016 7:53pm
Shawn Herles

“The ones he found in his nutty webshites stephie”

Yes griffy. One of the polls it cited was by the BBC. Is the BBC a nutty webshite griffy? 🙂
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July 2, 2016 7:53pm
Shawn Herles

“They have rubbish by the discovery Discovery Institute.
You know the earth was created by god 6000 years ago and that sort of stupidity.”

Except the Discovery Institute does not actually promote nor believe in young earth creationism griffy.

Straws – grasping at. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 7:56pm
Shawn Herles

Or how about the Arabic news site al-Jazeera, which found that almost half of the Muslims it polled supported bin Laden?

Is al-Jazeera also a nutty webshite griffy? 🙂

Hole – stop digging. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 7:59pm
Griff

Oh look shank lets read you senator story site a bit more.
I see he is selling webshites
You could start one up…. just buy a domain name of him a start a whacko site all of your own
Radical Right Winger.com

Impeach The Bastard

SenateScumbags.com

HouseScumbags.com

Mexico’s Immigration law

TwistedSocialistBastards.com

Birth Certificate or Certification of Live Birth?

Nancy Pelosi KNEW !!!

Why Barack HUSSEIN Obama got Elected

Ive got a better name.
God hate moooslums ….
opps thats already taken by your church .

National review is a creationist site fappy are you a creationist ?
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July 2, 2016 8:02pm
Shawn Herles

“in fear of an imaginary foe .”

So there are no Muslim terrorists in the world griffy?

Loon = Griffy. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:02pm
stigie

Where is Dad ?

There was once 3 rugby players:- Ritchie, Dad and Jock Hobbs. Two of them were great rugby players !~
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July 2, 2016 8:08pm
Griff

Who said that Shawnee ? Hearing voices? Making uo shit, You are having problems with reality.

Goes with the creationism I suppose.
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July 2, 2016 8:10pm
Shawn Herles

So, griffy would have us believe that the BBC, al-Jazeera, Pew research, and various othe reputable polling agencies and mainstream news sites are all in reality nutty webshites, that there are no Muslim terrorists, the Paris attacks and the Orelanda attacks were a figment of our imaginations, and that the goddess Gaia is warming at an alarming rate and a global apocalypse is just around the corner. No, not the next corner, the one after that. Or the one after that one.

🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:12pm
nasska

The other night Dad told me to place my silver in a very uncomfortable part of my person stigie. Then he disappeared.

He might be back in the rubber room. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:14pm
Shawn Herles

“Who said that Shawnee ?”

“in fear of an imaginary foe .”

You did. Duh! 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:14pm
Shawn Herles

“The other night Dad told me to place my silver in a very uncomfortable part of my person stigie.”

Nasska, I don’t normally buy the argument that just because someone talks regularly about homosexuality that person is a closet gay, but in Dad’s case he does seem seriously obsessed with gays and anything to do with bums.

Just sayin…… 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:18pm
Griff

I dont see you linking to the bbc or anything else I can see you linking to a creationist site though.
no one has said Gaia but you no one has said no terrorist but you .
Come down to earth matey go get some help for the voices you keep hearing.
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July 2, 2016 8:18pm
nasska

He’s had such a hard time with women that he may have changed sides Shawn. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:21pm
Shawn Herles

“I dont see you linking to the bbc or anything else”

The BBC poll was in the original article, the one you did not read.

I also posted the al-Jazeera poll yesterday, but then you ran away. Can’t think why.

“I can see you linking to a creationist site though.”

I doubt you can see anything other than the drool on your chin. On a good day that is. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:23pm
Shawn Herles

Does anyone know if Dad has ever actually posted anything that was actually to do with politics on KB? So far, I have only seen him ranting about bums, inserting things into bums, aids bums, and of course Big Bruv. And bums. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:29pm
nasska

He decided to specialise Shawn. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:31pm
Griff

Umm shanwee you are the one linking to creationist sites and people telling lies
Gee A real live Creationist here on KB ……And he keep seeing stiff posted that is not even there
Meds matey get some .
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July 2, 2016 8:33pm
stephieboy

Shawn Herles ,

“Or how about the Arabic news site al-Jazeera, which found that almost half of the Muslims it polled supported bin Laden?”

Sample size and method with the questionnaire ? DPF could be interested.
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July 2, 2016 8:34pm
Shawn Herles

I was almost tempted once to ask D4J what an ‘aids bum’ was, then I thought better of it. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:35pm
Longknives

“So, griffy would have us believe that the BBC, al-Jazeera, Pew research, and various othe reputable polling agencies and mainstream news sites are all in reality nutty webshites, that there are no Muslim terrorists”

Shawn- Jeremy Elwood told us today on Stuff that Islamic Terrorism is all in our imaginations! I’d trust him- He has been on some Comedy shows on NZ TV and everything…
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July 2, 2016 8:36pm
Griff

How about telling us about being a creationist shanwee
That sounds fascinating.
And also these things you keep reading that are not there.
Are they in pretty colors mate? did you do acid and are now getting flash backs ?
That would explain the hand I suppose.
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July 2, 2016 8:38pm
stigie

Well, he was pulled over by a Transgender cop a few months back and was determined that he/she had aids and most of us decent people here have aids. Will be interesting what shite will be in his sexy novel..?
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July 2, 2016 8:39pm
Shawn Herles

“Shawn- Jeremy Elwood told us today on Stuff that Islamic Terrorism is all in our imaginations! I’d trust him- He has been on some Comedy shows on NZ TV and everything…”

Is he related to griffy?

And, are they on the same medication? 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:40pm
stephieboy

‘Gun truthers’ level abuse, threats at victims of US massacres in wake of Orlando slaughter,

It has become an ugly reality in a world too often beset by pointless tragedies.

“As families of the victims of the Orlando nightclub massacre struggle to come to terms with grief, they find themselves unwillingly thrown into the centre of political storm.

Reports are now emerging suggesting some gun advocates are deliberately inflicting fresh emotional wounds on the families of those affected by the US’ countless massacres.

Death threats, insults and the repeated insistence that their loved ones never existed, and that their slayings never happened, have been levelled at the families of the victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook school massacre…”

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/31939824/gun-truthers-level-abuse-threats-at-victims-of-us-massacres-in-wake-of-orlando-slaughter/#page1

I wonder if some Trumpists are behind this ?

We also learn that Omar Meetan’s former lover believes Orlando was a hate crime .
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July 2, 2016 8:42pm
Shawn Herles

“Well, he was pulled over by a Transgender cop a few months back and was determined that he/she had aids”

He actually claimed that? LMAO!!! 🙂

How would he know???????
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July 2, 2016 8:42pm
Griff

Oh I dont need medication shanwee I dont see things like hands growing back and stuff written on website that is not there.
I dont believe in creationism and post stuff that I just make up all the time.
meds mate you will find they will help the delusions you are having.
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July 2, 2016 8:45pm
Shawn Herles

“Hi Dad, I’m a transgender cop, and I have aids! Muhahahahahahaha!” 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:45pm
nasska

Probably needs an exorcism stigie. As luck has it I know a Godwhack down in Christchurch who’s got these things pretty much sussed & will probably give Dad mates rates for cash.

If I see him around I’ll mention it. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:45pm
stigie

We are hearing everything will be revealed in the bullshit book Shawn !~
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July 2, 2016 8:46pm
Shawn Herles

Here are a couple of polls from the NR article griffy:

“According to CBS, polling shows that “almost one in four British Muslims believe that the [2005] 7/7 attacks on London were justified.” According to the Financial Times, polling shows that more than one in three British Muslims see Britain’s Jewish community as a “legitimate target as part of the struggle for justice in the Middle East.” Not Israelis but British Jews. Their Jewish neighbors. One in three.

According to the BBC, more than one in four British Muslims agree with the statement: “I have some sympathy for the motives behind the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris.” According to a major Turkish newspaper — the Hürriyet Daily News — one in five Turks believes Charlie Hebdo’s murdered cartoonists “got what they deserved.””

And here is the al-Jazeera poll as well as a few others:

Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds). Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright.
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf

Pew Research (2011): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (14% can’t make up their minds).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda.
http://people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/al-jazeera-arabic-poll-49-9-support-osama-bin-laden.712/

Now take your meds griffy, and let the adults talk. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:51pm
All_on_Red

The FBI went through all of Meetans computers, all his social media, his phone etc and found no evidence of him having any involvement in a gay relationship and lifestyle.
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July 2, 2016 8:53pm
Shawn Herles

“Probably needs an exorcism stigie. As luck has it I know a Godwhack down in Christchurch who’s got these things pretty much sussed & will probably give Dad mates rates for cash.”

Hell no! It’s a bottle of Jack or no deal!

Actually, given that it’s D4J, it will have to be two bottles. He might take a while. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 8:53pm
stephieboy

Shawn Herles, so these polls 5% , 1in 10 etc represent millions of Muslims worldwide ?? Again further details on sample size and method ?

All On Red , well I suppose we have it on your authority that his ex-lover must of been lying ?
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July 2, 2016 9:00pm
Nookin

Where does Dad stand politically? I was going to say that he is Sancho Panza to redbaiter’s Quixote but I think that give too much credence to Baity. Probably more correct to say he is the ass (arse?) to baity’s Sancho Panza. Just tags along, faithfully and unquestioning, behind and snaps at anyone who may have different views (ie 99.9% of the population).
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July 2, 2016 9:01pm
Griff

😆
seeing shit that ain’t there Shawnee
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Muslim Americans: No Signs of Growth in Alienation or Support for Extremism…
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf
MUSLIM AMERICANS:
MIDDLE CLASS AND MOSTLY MAINSTREAM

http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/al-jazeera-arabic-poll-49-9-support-osama-bin-laden.712/
wingnut site shewn proves nothing but you read garbage

Nothing confirms you views Shawnee just a whacko site and two surveys that find Muslims mostly no threat.
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July 2, 2016 9:05pm
All_on_Red

Stephie
No, the FBIs authority.
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July 2, 2016 9:05pm
Shawn Herles

“Where does Dad stand politically?”

The anti-aids bums party?

“I was going to say that he is Sancho Panza to redbaiter’s Quixote but I think that give too much credence to Baity.”

Waaaay too much! 🙂
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July 2, 2016 9:06pm
nasska

So long as Dad has a face Baity will always have somewhere to sit Nookin. 🙂
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July 2, 2016 9:07pm
Griff

* April 2007 Pew Research Ce
nter for the People &
the Press national survey.
CHAPTER 7
Foreign Policy, Terrorism and Concerns About Extremism
uslim Americans express broad dissatisfactio
n with the direction of U.S. foreign
policy. Most say that the U.S. made the
wrong decision in using force against Iraq,
and while there is greater support for the decision to use force in Afghanistan, more
say it was the wrong thing to do than say it was ri
ght. A majority of Muslim Americans say that
the U.S.-led war on terror is not a sincere effort to reduce international terrorism, and fewer than
half say they believe the
attacks of 9/11 were carried out by groups of Arabs.
At the same time, Muslims in the United States are widely concerned about Islamic
extremism, and express strong disapproval of terro
rists and their tactics.
In fact, about three-
quarters (76%) say they are very or somewhat
concerned about the rise of Islamic extremism
around the world, and 61% say they are concerned
about the possible rise of Islamic extremism
in the U.S. Similarly, more than three-in-four
say that suicide bombing in defense of Islam is
never justified, and just 5% expr
ess favorable views of al Qaeda.
On the question of the Israeli-
Palestinian conflict, most Muslims in the U.S say
that a way can be found for Israel to exist so
that the rights and needs of Palestinians are
met, a view that is not shared by Muslims in
predominantly Muslim countries.

Gee shank this is not what you said is it now
lies mate you are fill of them
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July 2, 2016 9:08pm
stigie

Mad Dad hangs off Reddy like some mums hang off Starbored..?
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July 2, 2016 9:09pm
Shawn Herles

“Stephie
No, the FBIs authority.”

The FBI is a webshite AoR. I have it on good authority from griffy and stephie who consulted an Islamic terrorist web site and the goddess Gaia, so it must be true. 🙂

Anyhooo…. night all.
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July 2, 2016 9:11pm
All_on_Red

‘fewer than half say they believe the attacks of 9/11 were carried out by groups of Arabs.’

Really? Where did they go to school? EAD Primary?
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July 2, 2016 9:13pm
Griff

The hijackers in the September 11 attacks 15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia.
This was know when bush invaded Afghanistan…..
The yanks invaded the wrong country.
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July 2, 2016 9:19pm
mikenmild

Griff
I should think it is high time we all accepted that Shawn is impervious to reason and facts. He’s the sort of guy that thinks the National Review, Breitbart and Pamela Geller have actual information, and those are just his most reliable sources.
Maybe it is better to just leave him undisturbed in his mission to provide the loopiest cut and paste in each day’s General Debate.
Personally, I think he is building towards one of his very shrill crescendos, after which he will make a grovelling apology for his un-Christian behaviour and vile abuse.
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July 2, 2016 9:24pm
All_on_Red

Yep, good to see that the US is finally fucking the Sauds over by using fracking to bankrupt them. The use of pretty much slave labourers fron places like Pakistan and Bangladesh is outrageous and inhumane
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July 2, 2016 9:25pm
All_on_Red

Aww Mikey, Breitbart is ok, after all Milo Yiannopoulos writes for them 🙂
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July 2, 2016 9:28pm
mikenmild

I didn’t know you were so hot on the use of slave labour from the third world, AoR. I recommend you join the excellent Amnesty International campaigns to further the cause.
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July 2, 2016 9:28pm
All_on_Red

Nah Mikey, I give to a few charities but not that one but I see that Oxfam are now campaigning against tax havens.
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July 2, 2016 9:30pm
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All_on_Red (3,318 comments) says:
July 2nd, 2016 at 9:30 pm
Nah Mikey, I give to a few charities but not that one but I see that Oxfam are now campaigning against tax havens.

That’s kind of ironic! I wonder if Oxfam and the rest of the political-movements-dressed-up-like-charities-to-avoid-tax will be campaigning for the fixing of the charities legislation that lets them avoid tax also. I doubt it because socialists are at the core hypocrites – they live in the “Do as I say, not do as I do” space.

And this lying, cheating double-standards behaviour is why support for anything remotely socialist is drying up around the world.
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July 3, 2016 8:03am
mikenmild

I like your equation: charities = socialists.
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