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Stars And Stripes

A prominent Māori GP Dr Rawiri Tipene-Leach, who designed the first flax wahakura 10 years ago is accusing the Ministry of Health of racism for stopping the funding of special baskets to protect babies sleeping with their parents.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/308950/dr-accuses-moh-of-racism-for-refusing-to-fund-baby-pods

So he thinks all Maori should get one of his baskets for free, well if children are that valuable to Maori parents and whanau you would think they would all chip in and buy one as they are pretty cheap and kids lives are priceless right?.
No it’s easier to put the kid to sleep on a pile of Lotto tickets.
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July 19, 2016 12:55pm
Rich Prick

is accusing the Ministry of Health of racism for stopping the funding of special baskets

I thought we’d put a stop to free night courses for basket weaving and homeopathy for pets.
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July 19, 2016 1:07pm
Brigitte

Colville et al on possible coalitions. I can imagine it now….

Reporter: So My Key, who will be in the coalition with you?
Key: I’ve talked to all minor parties
Reporter: So what did Winston say?
Key: No, I didn’t approach the leader of the opposition
Reporter: Um, what about Labour then?
Key: Interesting call that one. I was told that Labour was not A Little party. Surprised me, a coup that quick, so asked him to pass me to the new leader, but he just hung up on me
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July 19, 2016 1:09pm
igm

Still not a thing in Fairfax Filth regarding this latest Islam-led attack. Time something was done about the Muslim-loving bastards . . . they are suppressing what public are entitled to know.
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July 19, 2016 1:27pm
RF

I am getting tired of hearing “Black lives matter”.

To me “Blue lives matter” is more important.
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July 19, 2016 1:34pm
Fletch

GOP convention live –

http://www.breitbart.com/gop-convention-live/

ATM, eviscerating Hillary.
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July 19, 2016 2:16pm
stephieboy

Fletch , a different perspective on the Cleveland convention ,

Day 1: GOP civil war breaks out in Cleveland

Republicans who have yet to fall in line behind Trump find themselves in his campaign’s cross hairs,

CLEVELAND — Day One of the GOP’s national convention has been anything but unified.

“Chaos erupted on the floor of the convention, as a group of delegates opposed to Donald Trump’s nomination pressed for a roll call vote on the national convention rules. But Arkansas Rep. Steve Womack — chair of vote procedures — abandoned the stage as delegates on the floor chanted for a roll call vote, leaving frustrated delegates to voice their displeasure with shouting and parliamentary inquiries…..”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/rnc-2016-republican-dischord-225701#ixzz4Eoj9aDk1
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook
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July 19, 2016 2:21pm
Fletch

Stephie, yeh #NeverTrump has failed.
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July 19, 2016 2:23pm
stephieboy

Fletch, before you get to carried away,

“8 Epic Business Failures with Donald Trump’s Name on Them,”

“…As for why he’s running, Trump pointed to his business sense and declared, “We need somebody that can take the brand of the United States and make it great again.”
Yet time and again over the years, the Trump brand has been featured in many embarrassing high-profile flops in the business world. Here are some of the misfires attached to the “Trump” name…”

http://time.com/money/3923629/donald-trump-name-business-failures/
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July 19, 2016 2:28pm
All_on_Red

So stephie, whats going on with the Internet Party these days?
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July 19, 2016 2:31pm
stephieboy

All On Red, so you don’t believe Trump has had a number of business ventures flop with his name attached ?
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July 19, 2016 2:35pm
All_on_Red

How about answering my question first
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July 19, 2016 2:58pm
Manolo

PC, always oppressively PC:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1459893/why-did-channel-4-have-a-presenter-in-a-hijab-to-front-coverage-of-muslim-terror-in-nice/
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July 19, 2016 3:04pm
Kimbo

I’ve posted before that I think Trump is an awful Presidential candidate (although so is Hillary Clinton), a poor excuse for a Republican and has got bugger all likelihood of winning, IMHO (while acknowledging few “experts” tipped him to get this far, and as long as he is still in the race, he has a chance).

Nonetheless, I caught Willie Jackson and Mary Jane Tomasi on the radio talking like Trump was Satan-incarnate, and then reporting that a group of American women have said they consider the rhetoric of Donald Trump is “unsafe” and “places them in danger”. Wow!

Then I remembered that is the standard reported reaction of “Women”, “Blacks”, “Hispanics”, “LGBT” and any other alleged minority or nonmale and WASP interest group (ok, maybe not Cubans!) to every Republican candidate since, oh…at least Barry Goldwater in 1964.
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July 19, 2016 3:05pm
Manolo

Multiculturalism Aussie-style: a true 7th century barbarian called Grand Mufti. Pftttt.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3696497/Ray-Hadley-responds-Sonia-Kruger-saying-home-grown-Muslims-Grand-Mufti-bigger-problem-immigrants.html

Radio broadcaster Ray Hadley says most of the local radical Muslims currently serving time in jail were born in Australia as he responded to Sonia Kruger’s call to stop Islamic immigration.

The 2GB host also hit out at Australia’s Grand Mufti for ‘not speaking English’ and called him out for not showing leadership by denouncing the radicalised Muslims in jail.
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July 19, 2016 3:12pm
Captain Mainwaring

Warehouse pulling out of Wainuiomata.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/82259892/wainuiomata-mall-loses-another-tenant–the-warehouse-will-close-its-doors-next-february

This says how bad things really must be in Wainui. A market ready-made for the Warehouse and they are pulling out. Have they ever pulled out of ANYWHERE before?
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July 19, 2016 3:32pm
sam green

I can get why the wearing of burka is difficult Manolo but why does the niqab offend you so ?
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July 19, 2016 3:42pm
Ross12

Interesting and great comments from Sherriff Clarke on CNN. The interviewer tries, unsuccessfully, to turn the interview. CNN takes the interview off it’s site a little later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd__ThIHPnY
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July 19, 2016 3:50pm
Manolo

Will this sort of civilised behaviour occur in multicultural Mt Roskill?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1464777/pregnant-teen-tortured-by-in-laws-in-afghan-honour-killing-in-revenge-for-her-father-eloping-with-her-husbands-cousin/

A 14-year-old pregnant Afghan girl has been tortured and burned to death by her in-laws.
Zarha Azam’s father, Mohammad, claims she was murdered in revenge for him eloping with a cousin of her husband.
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July 19, 2016 3:53pm
Nostradamus

I see that Turkey is under pressure not to introduce the death penalty. The mere reference to “death penalty” is one of those issues that can quickly divide a roomful of people into supporters and detractors. I’ve always been in two minds about this issue. Ultimately, if I’m honest with myself, it comes down to how much of a bad bugger we’re talking about – does he or she deserve it?

Please consider this bad bugger and let me know if you think he deserves the death penalty or whether we should keep him locked up for the rest of his miserable life.

The article begins innocently enough:

A prisoner dubbed by media as the Northern Territory’s “Hannibal Lecter” has appeared in the Supreme Court threatening misbehaviour and violence unless he is transferred to the Alice Springs prison, because he gets better privileges there.

But this isn’t an article about human rights. If you read on, and don’t mind graphic detail, you’ll find out that this scumbucket committed a truly horrendous crime.

His attitude to prison life:

Albury said if he was transferred back to the Alice Springs facility, staff could “expect one incident a week … in Darwin there will be three to four a week”. “The one in Alice, I’ll just be telling a screw to go and get f**ked. In Darwin, I’ll throw piss, shit, boiling water on them,” he said. … “I’m not going to change my behaviour. I’ve been going with it for 55 years and I’ll go with it for another 55 … if I live that long. “I can do whatever I want … what are they going to do to me?”

A professional opinion:

One specialist noted Albury had a fantasy about “making people frightened that they may be the next to be killed”. “He is not seeking publicity or notoriety. He simply gets pleasure out of the thought of having that degree of control over people,” the assessment found. Albury had fantasised about “terrorising a town by committing casual, motiveless murder for the purpose of making people frightened that they may be the next to be killed,” the psychologist’s report found. “There is a sadistic element to his killing. He derives pleasure from the mutilation of the body of the victim … he says that it ‘makes it interesting’. “He makes it clear that given his casual attitude to murder he would kill again, given the opportunity.”

No prospect of redemption:

In a 2004 letter to prison authorities, Albury said his “chance of re-offending in violent murderous manner is 100 per cent (hopefully soon)”. “I have no wish to die, but as above I am unstoppable, I love my work,” he said. The letter ends: “P.S. — will kill again — it’s what I do for an occupation.”

So the question is: do we pay lots of money to keep these type of “people” (in the broadest sense of the word) locked up for the rest of their miserable lives in the name of a humane society? Like I say, I’m in two minds about the issue, but in some ways I wouldn’t mind if this kind of scumbucket were to have an unfortunate “accident” in prison.
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July 19, 2016 4:10pm
Stars And Stripes

I have made two derogatory remarks about Mount Roskill today and now Manolo has added a third so if anyone else has got any more put downs about the place to add to the collection they will be most welcome.
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July 19, 2016 4:18pm
chiz

After Brexit people have been speculating about other countries leaving and what we should call this. The usual suggestions are Grexit, Frexit and Nexit. But there are more imaginative names out there: Nethermind, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Latervia and Byegium!
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July 19, 2016 4:21pm
Kimbo

@ Stars And Stripes

I have made two derogatory remarks about Mount Roskill today and now Manolo has added a third so if anyone else has got any more put downs about the place to add to the collection they will be most welcome.

How about when it was the Bible-belt of Auckland they once elected Gilbert Myles as their MP?

But to be fair the suburb (aka ‘The Keith Hay Village’) was a nursery of great NZ sports coaches – Arthur Lydiard, Graham Lowe, John Hart…
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July 19, 2016 4:31pm
Captain Mainwaring

“I have made two derogatory remarks about Mount Roskill today and now Manolo has added a third so if anyone else has got any more put downs about the place to add to the collection they will be most welcome.”

I drove through Mt. Roskill a couple of times to play golf at Akarana and to say that the destination was more interesting than the journey is an understatement.
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July 19, 2016 4:34pm
nasska

Manolo

….”Will this sort of civilised behaviour occur in multicultural Mt Roskill?”…..

Almost certainly, as along with their shitty attitudes to western society Muslims bring with them the notion that women are a lesser species deserving of poorer treatment than the family goat.

But more importantly we will probably never hear about it as the scum MSM will refuse to report on anything that might put the kibosh on the government allowing more of their darlings into the country.
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July 19, 2016 4:39pm
Stars And Stripes

Kimbo- don’t forget also that two of NZ’s most notable people went to school there too.
Graeme Hart and Stars And Stripes.
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July 19, 2016 4:50pm
Kimbo

…and Stars And Stripes.

Ah, so you are a product of Mt Roskill Grammar! The dots that reveal the…nuances in your psychological profile begin to be joined!
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July 19, 2016 4:53pm
Stars And Stripes

Thought everyone already knew that?.
Sorry to keep the audience in the dark.?
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July 19, 2016 4:55pm
Reid

Q: What do you think are the real reasons for such a move of the army? WE: This was a network of officers inside the Army loyal to the Fetullah Gülen Movement. Gülen is a 100% CIA controlled asset. He even lives since years in exile in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania having gotten safe passage and a green card by former top CIA people like Graham Fuller and the former US Ambassador to Ankara.

Gülen has been a decades-long mad project of the CIA to weaponize political Islam as an instrument of regime change. Recall that in 2013 there were mass protests against Erdogan in Istanbul and elsewhere. That was when Gülen, who previously had made a deal with Erdogan’s AK Party, broke and criticized Erdogan as a tyrant in the Gülen-controlled media such as Zaman. Since then Erdogan has been moving to root out his internal most dangerous adversary, Gülen and friends, including raids on Zaman and other Gülen-controlled media. This is not about a battle between the White Knight and Evil Knievel. It is about power pure in Turkish politics. If you are interested in the details of the Gülen CIA project I urge readers to look in my book, The Lost Hegemon (German: Amerikas Heilige Krieg).

What is interesting to watch now will be the foreign policy of Erdogan: Rapprochement with Russia, reopening talks on the Russia Turkish Stream gas pipeline to the Greek border. The simultaneous Erdogan rapprochement with Netanyahu. And most critical, Erdogan’s apparent agreement, part of Putin’s demands for resumption of ties, that Turkey cease efforts to topple Assad by covertly backing DAESH or other terrorists in Syria and training them in Turkey, selling their oil on the black market. This is a huge geopolitical defeat for Obama, probably the most incompetent President in American history (even though he has some serious competition for the title from George W. Bush and Clinton).

Q: What impact on developments has the fact that Turkey is a member of NATO? WE: This is difficult to assess. Washington desperately needs Turkey in NATO for its global strategy, especially in controlling oil flows of the Middle East, and now its natural gas. This is why the moment it was clear the coup would fail, Obama and company “embraced” their “friend” Erdogan. It’s called damage control in intelligence parlance…

…Q: How do you think the events in Turkey may affect the European Union? WE: The EU is in the process of dissolving as a project. It was always a monstrous idea, encouraged in the 1950s by Churchill, by the early CIA and their European friends like Monnet, in order for the US better to control Europe. That was obvious when President Obama made his brazen intervention into British politics to tell the British not to exit the EU. The European Union is a monstrous top-down faceless bureaucracy, unelected, unanswerable to the people, sitting in Brussels next to NATO headquarters.

Brexit started the dissolution. It will now go rather fast now is my feeling. Perhaps Hungary will be next if the CIA is not able to do a color revolution against Orban before their October referendum on “Huexit.” France? Marie Le Pen’s supporters and millions of French are fed up with dictates from Brussels. Look at the recent criminal decision, despite huge scientific evidence that glyphosate, the widest-used weed killer in the EU, is carcinogenic, to ignore all health and safety evidence even of EU governments, and arbitrarily re-approve it for 18 more months of poisoning of the food and the population. This is not what the people of Europe or anywhere deserve from their civil servants.

http://journal-neo.org/2016/07/18/behind-the-cia-desperate-turkey-coup-attempt/
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July 19, 2016 5:40pm
Stars And Stripes

Upskirt filmer says he should get home detention, not jail
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/82246294/upskirt-filmer-says-he-should-get-home-detention-not-jail

“The man, whose name is suppressed, was jailed for a year on eight charges of making intimate visual recordings by Wellington District Court judge Ian Mill who said the community needed to be protected from him.”

Noticed you have not been posting very much today MM?.
If there is anything you want to get off your chest promise I will keep a secret.
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July 19, 2016 5:41pm
Reid

And the memes continue, this time painting Erdogan like Saddam, drawing the sheeple a subconscious parallel…

Sheeple of course don’t notice that the Western MSM could have done stories like this anytime, but they didn’t, while Erdogan was mates with the West and why not…

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3696037/She-silk-wallpaper-bathroom-2-000-roll-Super-spending-habits-Turkey-tyrant-s-shopaholic-wife-laid-bare-two-million-coup-hit-country-earn-3-day.html
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July 19, 2016 5:47pm
Reid

The Americans like a lot of what Erdoğan has been doing – his big problem, common to deposed leaders, is that he refuses to be consistently controlled. He could go rogue – like his recent and sudden shift to Russia – at any time, and the Empire can’t tolerate that kind of uncertainty.

The lie about Erdoğan being refused asylum in Germany appears to have originated (see from 13:50 in the video here) with a tweet from an MSNBC producer called Kyle Griffin, based on information from a ‘senior US military source’. I believe that conclusively refutes any American claims to non-involvement.

Escobar:
“Needless to add Ankara and Washington are now on a certified collision course. If there is an Empire of Chaos hidden hand in the coup – no smoking gun yet — that certainly comes from the Beltway neocon/CIA axis, not the lame duck Obama administration. For the moment Erdogan’s leverage only amounts to access to Incirlik. But his paranoia is ballooning; for him Washington is doubly suspicious because they harbor Gulen and support the YPG.

Hell hath no fury as an underestimated Sultan as well. For all his recent geopolitical follies, Erdogan’s simultaneous ballet of reconnecting with Israel and Russia is eminently pragmatic. He knows he needs Russia for the Turkish Stream and to build nuclear plants; and he needs Israeli gas to consolidate Turkey’s role as a key East-West energy crossroads.When we learn, crucially, that Iran supported Turkey’s “brave defense of democracy”, as tweeted by Foreign Minister Zarif, it’s clear how Erdogan, in a mater of only a few weeks, reconfigured the whole regional picture. And that spells out Eurasia integration and Turkey deeply connected to the New Silk Roads – not NATO. No wonder the Beltway – for whom, overwhelmingly, Erdogan is the proverbial “erratic and unreliable ally” — is freaking out. That dream of Turkish colonels under direct CIA orders is over – at least for the foreseeable future.

So what about Europe? Yildirim already said that Turkey might reinstate the death penalty – to be applied to the coup plotters. This means, in essence, bye bye EU. And bye bye to the European Parliament approving visa-free travel for Turks visiting Europe. Erdogan after all already got what he wanted from chancellor Merkel; those 6 billion euros to contain the refugee crisis that he essentially unleashed. Merkel bet the farm on Erdogan. Now she’s talking to herself – while the Sultan is able to dial God on Face Time.”
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July 19, 2016 5:59pm
Viking2

Trade Minister Todd McClay says he was told Zespri in China was warned about trade implications against New Zealand companies but dismissed it as “unsubstantiated rumour” after Chinese authorities denied it.

in Indonesia today McClay confirmed when he was in China he was told that “an industry body” had raised concerns with a New Zealand company.

NZ First leader Winston Peters said it was unbelievable Government ministers had not known of Chinese concern.

“After days of obfuscation and denial the Government is now confirming it had knowledge of China approaching New Zealand exporters expressing concerns at legitimate policy concerns back in New Zealand.”

He said the Chinese Government had used the threat of “industry consultation” in the past.

“China’s threatened ‘industry consultation’ is shorthand for going outside the 2008 Free Trade Agreement to get its way. They did it on the melamine scandal, and the infant formula production plant approval process. That’s how China got control of our infant formula industry in just three years under National.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11677416

Wait but that’s not all;
Silver Fern Farms, the country’s largest meat processor, has warned farmer shareholders that it now expects to only break-even in the current financial year, down from a pre-tax profit of $27.16 million in the previous year.
n its winter newsletter, chairman Rob Hewett and acting chief executive Dean Hamilton describe the profit slump as “disappointing” and blame, “lower national volumes and lower margins (exacerbated recently by the NZ dollar strength)”.

For the nine months to the end of June, beef processed was down 4 per cent compared to the same period a year earlier, sheep was down 3 per cent and venison fell 17 per cent.

Hewett and Hamilton also warn that the decision by British voters to exit the European Union in a referendum last month “has had a meaningful negative impact on NZ returns, in particular for lamb” largely due to the vote’s impact on the British pound and Euro currency.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11677457
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No wonder Key is panicking over houses.

Get to grips with immigration, stop wastefully spending and borrowing, lower our exchange rate asap.
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July 19, 2016 6:25pm
Captain Mainwaring

Paddy the gnome, our roving reporter in Cleveland, has got rid of his weasel-imitating goatee.
Obviously received instructions from Head Office.
Still looks and talks like a shrivelled-up stoat though.
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July 19, 2016 6:38pm
stigie

This is rather sad. Dad is always a great source of entertainment for us here on Kiwiblog, but last night
he became a little unhinged !~

dad4justice (7,870 comments) says:
July 18th, 2016 at 8:23 pm

stigfly do you live in rest home without a life?

Get a life or you just another aids infested clintheine club member. Remember bb was a good bowler lol…………….

Hillbilly get another hobby ffs – animal farm has eaten your brain.

[DPF: One of many unacceptable comments. That is Strike 5 and a month off]
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July 19, 2016 6:48pm
nasska

First Baity throws in the towel & now Dad’s blotted his copybook to the tune of a month on the naughty step.

This is a tough forum for the deranged! 🙂
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July 19, 2016 7:03pm
Stars And Stripes

And this little beauty:

Scott Chris (7,936 comments) says:

July 19th, 2016 at 2:24 am

Scott (2,721 comments) says:July 18th, 2016 at 8:18 pm
“Go the Republicans! There is going to be a wall and it’s going to be beautiful!”

Jesus Fucking Christ is this stupid cunt one of my long lost relatives?

I really fucking hope it was on my bastard side.

Anyways. I bet you, Scott, that the wall in its promised form won’t happen. I wager my commenting position in this forum for 4 years and in return you’ll shut the fuck up from sullying my good name for 4 years. Deal?

[DPF: Too abusive. That’s Strike 1]
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July 19, 2016 7:06pm
Shawn Herles

Lest we forget KB’s gold star standard in acquiring strikes…..

Kea (15,179 comments) says:
February 23rd, 2016 at 11:09 pm

Lucy. Err no. No, you have not taken the time to listen to the Chants, but have found time to indulge Shawn’s rape stories.

What ever you are into I guess !

Sweet dreams.

[DPF: And that is your ninth strike and a one year suspension. When you are allowed back in a year’s time, you may wish to consider a further strike will be a lifetime ban from commenting here]
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July 19, 2016 7:13pm
Nostradamus

Stars And Stripes:

And this little beauty:

Scott Chris (7,936 comments) says:
July 19th, 2016 at 2:24 am
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[DPF: Too abusive. That’s Strike 1]

Yesterday Elaycee commented:

I wonder if this muppet from down South is related to the idiot from Auckland who claimed on KB some time back:

For instance, whilst driving, if I see someone tailgating someone unreasonably, I loom up two meters behind them. There is no more powerful message.

I’ll not link – the idiot from Auckland doesn’t need oxygen. But they could be related – both have an ‘angry’ gene.

The identity of the angry driver from Auckland: Scott Chris!
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July 19, 2016 7:22pm
nasska

I reckon I might be able to throw a little light on SC’s road rage Nostra. There’s a history of odd behaviour when it comes to vehicles:

…..” I owned an old Skoda my last year in high school. When that died, I bought an old Fiat 850 for uni. When I crashed that, my sister gave me her rusty viva.”…..

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/12/general_debate_5_december_2011.html
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July 19, 2016 7:33pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

The thought of Scott Chris tailgating someone in ~~an old Skoda~~ (died) ~~an old Fiat 850~~ (crashed) a rusty viva (still roadworthy?) is interesting to say the least!
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July 19, 2016 7:52pm
Longknives

I think it speaks volumes of Joseph Parker’s credibility that Naz from the Bachelor is on the undercard for his latest ‘Big Fight’.
But according to the gushing NZ media- Parker vs the 40 year-old failed League player Solomon Haumono is a modern-day repeat of Ali vs Foreman..Somehow…
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July 19, 2016 7:56pm
stigie

We upgrade when we get a little older of course like Reddy upgrading from a 1969 Skoda to a muscle car that made him feel real good. Unstoppable in fact.!~
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July 19, 2016 7:59pm
nasska

I reckon that a good defence lawyer conversant with those facts could get insanity verdicts on charges of murdering his mother & raping his father never mind tailgating Nostra. 🙂
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July 19, 2016 8:00pm
Tauhei Notts

Kimbo wrote at 4.31 p.m. that Mount Roskill had elected Giblet Myles as their MP in 1990.
Now the area has been infested with Islamic mongrels.
And who said there is no justice in the world?
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July 19, 2016 8:02pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

We upgrade when we get a little older of course like Reddy

So if you wanted to lead a toll bridge protest, out of a sense of civic duty, what car would you use to make your point?
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July 19, 2016 8:03pm
nasska

This would do the trick Nostra. 🙂

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4b185hs5uig9o2c/Baity%2020.jpg?dl=0
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July 19, 2016 8:10pm
stigie

Not a muscle car if you were in Tauranga Nostra, more than likely to get it kicked in ole chap..?
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July 19, 2016 8:13pm
rangitoto

The DM “A teenage Afghan refugee who shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ before hacking at passengers during an axe rampage on a train in Germany last night had a hand drawn ISIS flag in his bedroom”

“Officials have said it was ‘probably’ an Islamist attack.”

They must have put their best investigators on that to figure it out.
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July 19, 2016 8:31pm
Reid

Israel sends 3 missiles to intercept intruder drone from Syria… unsuccessfully

Iron Dome is useless without one critical component and that is the Aegis system, which Obama withdrew, when Israel threatened to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/obama-abandons-israel/

As I’ve said before, Obama is not only gay he’s also a Muslim and his favoured faction is the Muslim Brotherhood. All his moves are for that side. This is a big part of why he’s done what he’s done with Iran. Of course it’s not possible to be anti-Israel seriously and still remain POYUS, look what happened to JFK for example. But his desire to do what he sees as the right thing by Muslims has seen him take Israel on like no other POTUS has ever done. Ever.

Is that good, or bad?
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July 19, 2016 8:34pm
Viking2

More revelations from the Hear no Evil club in Cabinet.

Dairy giant Fonterra told Government officials it had been approached by a Chinese commerce representative, warning of reprisals if they did anything to compromise Chinese steel imports.

It’s the latest revelation in a series of about-turns about the Government’s knowledge of Chinese threats of a wider trade war.

Already, both the Government and kiwifruit giant Zespri have back-pedalled on claims they had not been briefed about Chinese anger. New Zealand officials are looking into allegations it dumped cheap steel on the New Zealand market, and the world’s biggest trading nation has been making its fury known to New Zealand exporters.

Fonterra informed Wellington officials at the Ministry of Business Innovation and Employment (MBIE) of the communication. Industry sources said Fonterra trade policy manager Jenny McGregor contacted NZ trade officials last week, to confirm Fonterra’s Beijing office had been contacted earlier in the week by Chinese commerce representatives.

Talking to media in Jakarta, Prime Minister John Key said the Government’s position had not changed. But his language appeared to shift from there being no knowledge of an issue at all to an issue that would not warrant “retaliatory action.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/82262584/denials-over-china-trade-threats-unravel-fonterra-also-warned-of-consequences-over-steel
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July 19, 2016 8:41pm
sam green

Awwww dad’s gone – I blame Stigie.
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July 19, 2016 8:59pm
stigie

You are to blame Sam, you got him aroused that he was unstoppable..?
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July 19, 2016 9:19pm
Manolo

One of the many peaceful refugees that made it to Germany. Thank you. Mamma Merkel:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/18/german-train-axe-attack-many-injured/#update-20160719-0940

IS has claimed an Afghan teenager who attacked passengers on a train in Germany with an axe on Monday night as one of its ‘fighters’.

Earlier on Tuesday, the interior minister said a hand-drawn Isil flag was found in the room of the 17-year-old, whose attack left three seriously injured.
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July 19, 2016 9:22pm
EAD

@ Shawn Herles 10.33am,

Funnily enough I used to believe the approved narrative I was fed from an early age (although in America I observe that it is much more all consuming). Until, that is, I stirred myself to get acquainted with all the evidence, pro and con (the reason being that I couldn’t understand the holocaust denial laws in many countries, and rightly smelt a rat).

Having done so last year, I spent months in a state of incandescent outrage. I had fallen for what I and an ever increasing number of ordinary, decent people are finally realising was exactly what what Ms Schaefer (the Green candidate suspended by her party) in the video describes it to be: “the biggest and most pernicious and persistent lie in all of history!”

Most people don’t want to step down that path as it will shatter the comforting narrative they’ve built up all their lives and read about in approved history books. For them, ignorance is indeed bliss.
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July 19, 2016 9:24pm
sam green

Ewwww stigie – mrs green is now looking at me sideways.
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July 19, 2016 9:34pm
nasska

…..”mrs green is now looking at me sideways”….

As she should after discovering that her spouse is chatting up men on the internet.

You’re not Catholic are you? 🙂
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July 19, 2016 9:40pm
sam green

No nasska. So I can’t go to confession and get my sins absolved. Bugger. Sounds inviting.
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July 19, 2016 9:48pm
stigie

As long as you don’t have erotic dreams and mention his name Sam, everything should be ok on the home front !~
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July 19, 2016 9:55pm
sam green

You fullas are sickos. I’m outta here. ?
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July 19, 2016 10:04pm
doggone7

Shouldn’t there be be a warning at the top of the page for anyone from Mt Roskill accidentally wandering on to here? That they should put their sewer boots on, have pegs on their noses and naturally have had all the necessary vaccinations.
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