General Debate 13 July 2016

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AgentBallSack

Note to self:
Don’t diss mikeys masty material
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July 13, 2016 7:08pm
nasska

…..”One things this blog lacks is young-Earth creationists, sam.”….

But on the bright side we have every other type of Looney Tunes religious hocus pocus covered in spades! 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:08pm
Shawn Herles

“Is Scott a YEC?”

No idea, but I haven’t seen him say anything concrete on the subject.

“Maybe one day we’ll have some successful women too”

Lydia Ko! 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:09pm
mikenmild

So long as someone thinks that politicians have to be rich before they can be judged a success, I guess we’ll have to stick to admiring John Key and, well, who else?
It’s a bit hard to keep track of Shawn’s changing arguments for virtue.
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July 13, 2016 7:10pm
Shawn Herles

“But on the bright side we have every other type of Looney Tunes religious hocus pocus covered in spades!”

We certainly do naaska. Atheism, Socialism, Liberalism…….. 🙂

Edit: Oh and whatever the hell it is Uglytruth subscribes to. 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:11pm
SGA

Shawn Herles at 7:09 pm

Lydia Ko! ?

Well done, Shawn. You didn’t cheat and ask your wife, I hope 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:12pm
Shawn Herles

“Well done, Shawn. You didn’t cheat and ask your wife, I hope ”

Hehe…ummmmm….no……

Anyway I just did and she said Jean Batten! 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:16pm
SGA

Shawn Herles at 7:11 pm

Edit: Oh and whatever the hell it is Uglytruth subscribes to. ?

That’s a moveable feast, I think.
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July 13, 2016 7:16pm
Scott

Is Scott a young earth creationist? Well yes he is 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:18pm
mikenmild

Sure Shawn, atheism and liberalism are religions in the same way that ‘off’ is a television channel…
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July 13, 2016 7:19pm
fernglas

Instead of pissing around while Bright attempts spurious appeals, the Council should move to enforce the judgment by selling the house, and let her apply for a stay of that process. She will then need to show her proposed appeal has a prospect of success, which it doesn’t. Done and dusted. Has the Council got the balls, though?
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July 13, 2016 7:20pm
SGA

Scott at 7:18 pm

Is Scott a young earth creationist? Well yes he is ?

Thanks Scott – it’s a bit like Pokemon Go – one step closer to catching them all.
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July 13, 2016 7:21pm
mikenmild

Is Scott a young earth creationist? Well yes he is

There, but we need of few more for a full house of nutcase beliefs.
To wit, I don’t think we have any self-declared Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, or Wiccans on the blog.
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July 13, 2016 7:23pm
SGA

mikenmild at 7:23 pm

Buddhists

Yeah, think there’s one of those, isn’t there? Ryan (maybe not)? Or perhaps it was a dream. Wiccans would be a “no” I think.
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July 13, 2016 7:26pm
Shawn Herles

Iv’e got another one SGA, Georgina Beyer!

Oh wait…he was just pretending. 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:26pm
SGA

Shawn Herles at 7:26 pm

Iv’e got another one SGA, Georgina Beyer!

A buddhist? Think not.
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July 13, 2016 7:31pm
Shawn Herles

“I don’t think we have any self-declared Muslims, Buddhists,”

Ryan Sproul is a Buddhist.
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July 13, 2016 7:31pm
nasska

….’ but we need of few more for a full house of nutcase beliefs”….

We’ve got Shawn & Scott instead…..they’re sufficiently deranged to cover most of the bases. 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:34pm
EAD

Occams Razor destroys the Holocau$t industry – an interview with Nicolas Kollerstrom:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/12/occams-razor-destroys-the-holocaust-industry/

A small section:

“The Exterminationist types will always argue here, Ah don’t you realize, the Jews were gassed on arrival, and not counted in the records. Their bodies were then quickly incinerated and the ashes thrown into the Vistula. So in that case why would the Germans have bothered to keep records? That sounds a bit like people explaining why there are no German-built human gas chambers to be found in any German labour-camps – why, the wicked Nazis destroyed them all as they retreated. There comes a point where one needs to use Occam’s Razor, and say that if no evidence can be found for the whole thing, ie no physical-material or documentary evidence, then IT DID NOT HAPPEN

I’d like to see Holo-study course transferred into science departments, so that a critique of the evidence would be possible. If I may give just one example, we have a figure for Auschwitz of the total amount of coke used in the cremation ovens over a couple of years. Each oven took say a couple of hours to incinerate a body. Loads of these had to be installed once the big typhus epidemics broke out in the summer of 1942. It does sound macabre but the point is the ground was too damp to bury any bodies so they had to be cremated.

Now the quantity of coke needed per body under these circumstances is a fairly normal science-technology kind of question. It will give you numbers in accord with what we know of the typhus mortality in that camp. It absolutely rules out some huge extra number from a ‘human gassing’ fantasy, it gives a ceiling on mortality in that camp. In my experience Revisionists tend to be guided by material and rational argument and logic, whereas Holo-believers go more by stories, which they have been told”

To that I would add Holo-believers have a vested interest in maintaining the myth as it shuts down any and all dissent from those who are being dispossessed of their ancient homelands across the world. Object to 3rd world immigration and the people who control the press will label you a……drumroll please…..”Nazi” which is apparently supposed to be the Top Trumps of guilt by association.
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July 13, 2016 7:43pm
Don the Kiwi

Hajji is a self declared Muslim.

One of the few who are integrated and humorous I’ve gotta say.

I think Padriv is a fake Mussie – I could be wrong, but he’s okay too.
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July 13, 2016 7:48pm
Shawn Herles

I have my doubts about Hajji being a real Muslim Don, but you never know.
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July 13, 2016 7:50pm
nasska

….”I have my doubts about Hajji being a real Muslim”….

I reckon he put any doubts about that to bed ages back Shawn.

His descriptions of some pilgrimage he was supposed to be covering was hilarious & very unIslamic.
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July 13, 2016 7:55pm
Shawn Herles

Must have miised that one naaska. Bugger! 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:58pm
SGA

Don the Kiwi at 7:48 pm

Hajji is a self declared Muslim.
One of the few who are integrated and humorous I’ve gotta say.

I’m left wondering if you thought “Borat” was a documentary 🙂
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July 13, 2016 7:59pm
Stars And Stripes

There are serious doubts that Hajji is even Hajji for that matter.
Think I made my mind up a few weeks ago with the Ballsack incident.
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July 13, 2016 7:59pm
Shawn Herles

“I’m left wondering if you thought “Borat” was a documentary”

Wait, Borat wasn’t a documentary??????

🙂
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July 13, 2016 8:01pm
stigie

“Has the Council got the balls, though?”

After 9 fucking long years, the conclusion is that the AC has no fucking balls whatsoever fernglas.
Aucklands biggest bludger is just fingering the Council and any Judges she comes across.
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July 13, 2016 8:06pm
nasska

Q: What is the principle evidence for Creationism?
A: The Holy Bible, of course. After all, is it likely that the author
of the Universe would be mistaken about its age?

Q: But isn’t the Bible religion and not science?
A: Truth is truth. It’s a poor sort of science that ignores truth.

Q: How big was Noah’s ark?
A: Big enough.

Q: But what about radioactive dating?
A: Hey, everybody knows that stuff is bad for you. Stick with good
Christian girls.

Q: Aren’t Hawiian wallabies an example of Evolution in action?
A: No.

Q: Why not?
A: Because they aren’t.

Q: Doesn’t genetic variation indicate that life has been going on a long time?
A: Let’s be up front about this. That’s deviation, not variation, and yes,
there is a lot of deviancy out there. That just shows that there has been
a lot of Sin since the garden of Eden.
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July 13, 2016 8:11pm
nasska

Did you see this stigie?

….”As we have also previously stated, taking court action is the last resort for the council to recover unpaid rates. We remain open to receiving a valid application for a rates postponement from Ms Bright and working with her to ensure payment is made in a manner which suits her financial circumstances,” “…..

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11673159

Nine years being dicked around by the attention seeking halfwit & they’re still happy to offer her credit on behalf of the Auckland ratepayers. If I was a Jafalander I’d be sharpening the pitchfork & getting the rope ready.
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July 13, 2016 8:17pm
stigie

A fucking rates postponement…..? No other cunt could get away with this Nasska, no fucking way !~
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July 13, 2016 8:23pm
starboard

Poor old mikey, looking through the posts last few hours, getting severe plate fulls of arse handed back to him, time and time again..then there was the massive face palm from Shawn earlier on…what a trouper mm, a little trouper.
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July 13, 2016 8:24pm
Brigitte

I’m sorry creationists, but GOD does not exist. How can I be so sure? Well, I’ll let D Adams explain….

The Babel fish is small, yellow, leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the NON-existence of God.
The argument goes like this:
`I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’
`But,’ says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.’
`Oh dear,’ says God, `I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,’ says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
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July 13, 2016 8:27pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

I’ve just checked Auckland Council’s media centre and the last 3 media releases are:

[12 July] Whāngarei-Mai-Tawhiti take out top spot at Kapa Haka Super 12s

[11 July] Big decisions for new Auckland Council [Auckland Council’s 2016 pre-election report]

[7 July] Last call to register for Kids Voting [an opportunity for Penny to get extra votes – only they won’t count in the real election!]

Auckland Council should proceed with court action to sell the house but leave the door open for Penny to submit a valid rates postponement application.

There’s a difference between:
– proceeding with a court-ordered house sale while leaving the affected person with another option
– doing nothing while leaving the affected person with another option.

Auckland Council proceeded with court-ordered house sales last year. Out of fairness to those affected people, and to Auckland ratepayers generally, they should treat Penny in exactly the same way.
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July 13, 2016 8:31pm
nasska

….”– doing nothing while leaving the affected person with another option.”…..

Over nine years I’d say that’s one course of action they’ve managed to get hammered into shape. 🙂
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July 13, 2016 8:35pm
renderer

Listened to the Bright woman’s interview with Larry Williams. She now appears to be basing her stupidity on the fact she has support for her cause from a Government committee, which “trumps” the judicial system. It is amazing the absolute arrogance she showed during the interview.
It is also interesting the woman has never been back here to explain why she has water delivered to her house with a garden hose.
Given she has no scruples, honesty or moral fibre whatsoever, an argument could be advanced that she should not be allowed to stand for Mayor. But in any democracy an outlet is needed for the intellectually challenged and disaffected.
Strange also that given the current housing shortage that she rails against, that she has not opened up her palatial abode to some of the homeless.
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July 13, 2016 8:37pm
mikenmild

There’s a bit of an art to doing nothing, nasska…
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July 13, 2016 8:49pm
nasska

Nostra

I’m surprised the ACC are being so accommodating. A while back fellow comenter ‘Nookin’ who has a bloody good track record for getting legal things right, offered this:

…..”If the council were to be prepared to entertain a long term repayment proposal, it should receive absolute assurance of her ability and intention to pay current rates as well as honour the long term plan.

If reports are correct, council would be hard put to take the risk. Council has been here before and she didnt pay. Why waste ratepayers’ money any further.

The underlying theme of Nostradamus’ criticisms above are her duplicitous behaiviour and hypocritical principles. It is very easy to conclude that she has burnt all her bridges and no fiscally responsible council should contemplate compromise.”……

Sounds like good advice to me.
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July 13, 2016 8:50pm
stigie

We hear you’re good at it Milky..?
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July 13, 2016 8:51pm
mikenmild

Everyone has to have some talent, stigie.
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July 13, 2016 8:58pm
nasska

I’m selling up & retiring next June Mike. I’ll get in touch with you if I need a few pointers. 🙂
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July 13, 2016 9:00pm
dad4justice

Sell up Hillbilly and give all your money to the Church.
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July 13, 2016 9:02pm
mikenmild

Retirement could take many years of practice. Not everyone can make the adjustment from the hectic pace of working life. Some people recommend a gradual wind down at work over several decades.
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July 13, 2016 9:03pm
nasska

I might join the ancient, moralistic ones on 8 to 12 general debate every day. After a few months I’ll probably know it all too. 🙂

Edit: Hi Dad!
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July 13, 2016 9:03pm
Chuck Bird

“Instead of pissing around while Bright attempts spurious appeals, the Council should move to enforce the judgment by selling the house, and let her apply for a stay of that process. She will then need to show her proposed appeal has a prospect of success, which it doesn’t. Done and dusted. Has the Council got the balls, though?”

fernglas, I would not be so sure. I think the Council could not sell her up till she runs out of appeals. I am still trying to wind up my case. As the stage I am meant to appear by video link for a CoA hearing on 1 Aug. The other party former lawyer Bevin Skelton is now an adjudicated bankrupt. Previous to his bankruptcy he has been about to get his fees waived as he claimed poverty. His claims were obliviously without merit.

http://www.nzlii.org/nz/cases/NZHC/2016/838.html

Penny Bright sounds reasonable compared to Skelton.

If Penny wants to appeal she should have pay a filing fee as she has equity and also be require to put up security which I think is about $5,880 from memory.
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July 13, 2016 9:05pm
stigie

Nasska has always been very generous Dad, if ya lucky he just might give you his sheep dip !~
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July 13, 2016 9:07pm
minus

The woman who became the first person to have her property sold over rates arrears complicated the issue by not vacating the house when title passed to the new owner.

The Rogers Road property was sold in August 2015 for $597,000.
Overdue rates of $12,000 plus penalties and court costs of around $3000 were paid to Auckland Council.

She apparently also had to pay the real estate agent’s commission for the sale of her home – this commission, over $20,000, was more than the rates due and court costs awarded.

This last point should be of interest to Penny as the precedent has been set.
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July 13, 2016 9:08pm
dad4justice

” if ya lucky he just might give you his sheep dip”

I already got one maybe he could donate it to the Beehive as all the moronic sheep there are flyblown pieces of shit.
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July 13, 2016 9:15pm
sam green

Damn those transgenders ……..

http://thegoodlordabove.com/new-bathroom-bill-to-ban-priests-from-using-public-bathrooms/
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July 13, 2016 9:18pm
Nostradamus

Sam:

A representative of the Catholic Church rejected the premise of the bill.

“This Priest Bathroom Bill makes ridiculous generalizations,” said Bishop George Malone of the Catholic Diocese in Burlington, Vermont. “The vast majority of priests are excellent human beings. Personally, I know at least one or two Catholic priests who I’m almost certain are not pedophiles.”

Malone said arguments that Catholic priests are a threat are bogus, and the Priest Bathroom Bill is completely unnecessary.

“Priests are more likely to be the victims of molestation than anyone,” Malone said. “Usually by Bishops, as is tradition. Bishops get molested by Archbishops, Archbishops get molested by Cardinals and so on and so forth. The Pope can molest anyone at anytime. That’s how it is, that’s how it’s always been.”

Satire surely?
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July 13, 2016 9:21pm
nasska

You might be able to get me a part-time job at the shoe shop Dad. I’ve cut out a fair bit of footrot over the years so I’d be used to the smell. 🙂
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July 13, 2016 9:21pm
Nostradamus

Just for you Dad: Watch: Helen Clark receives big applause at UN debate

🙂
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July 13, 2016 9:23pm
sam green

@nostradamus

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July 13, 2016 9:24pm
dad4justice

Can somebody tell sam green that MuhamMAD the sicko was a paedophile.

And Helen KLARK must tell the world why her husband cannot visit the USA. Rot in hell maggot.
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July 13, 2016 9:25pm
stigie

“I’d be used to the smell”.

And of course you’ve worked with Heifers as well Nasska..?
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July 13, 2016 9:26pm
sam green

Why you so crabby dad4justice? And why does someone need to tell me something? And are you telling me to rot in hell maggot?
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July 13, 2016 9:29pm
nasska

Only light ones stigie. Very few of mine are much over 550kg & they’ve got four hooves to spread the weight.
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July 13, 2016 9:30pm
sam green

@dad4justice

You could tell me yourself sweetheart. Xx
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July 13, 2016 9:32pm
big bruv

Did anybody else see that left wing lickspittle Jack Tame nearly cream himself live on TV when talking about his hero Helen Clarke?

It says a lot about the smug child that he is impressed by somebody who will go down as the leader of the most corrupt government in our nations history.
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July 13, 2016 9:34pm
dad4justice

sm: you sick deranged idiot save your kisses for Hillbilly’s cattle. AT LEAST THEY ARE ALLOWED IN THE USA, eh H2. Ouch!
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July 13, 2016 9:34pm
sam green

Apoplectic much dad4justice. You’ll get the high blood pressure. I know you just need a cuddle.
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July 13, 2016 9:36pm
dad4justice

Maybe Jack Lame could invite Peter to the USA ? Haha rot in hell maggot.
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July 13, 2016 9:38pm
stigie

Is Peter allowed back there Dad..?
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July 13, 2016 9:40pm
sam green

I do look like I’m metamorphosing in my new snugly sleeping bag – but hardly a maggot. More like a delicious caterpillar about to break free with my new gossamer wings. You’d love me in my snugly dad4justice. Ooooo you sound so butch.
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July 13, 2016 9:42pm
dad4justice

I hope your sleeping bag was made in the USA , you know that place where Peter cannot visit, why is that when his wife is going to be a leader of the UN?
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July 13, 2016 9:45pm
sam green

Dad4justice, I gotta tell ya – you name sends shivers up my spine. It is SUCH a gay name – you do know that don’t you? It’s the kind of name some of those big boys down the club have.
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July 13, 2016 9:47pm
dad4justice

The big boys at the club I suppose you mean the green room where Peter, Ramon and Tim hung out in? How is James these days after his introduction to rainbow labour? Died of Aids yet sam?
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July 13, 2016 9:49pm
sam green

I don’t know Peter, dad4justice, but I do know Mark. Do you know him? Mark4glory?

Justice and glory – now there’s a power couple.
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July 13, 2016 9:52pm
dad4justice

You don’t know PETER DAVIS?

Surely you jest sam?
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July 13, 2016 9:54pm
sam green

Mark4glory is a giver dad4justice. You’ll like him. He’ll ease in gently. I know you butch boys really like it that way. You know what they say – butch in the streets, femme in the sheets.
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July 13, 2016 9:55pm
stigie

Dad knows all there is to know about Peter Davis Sam..?
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July 13, 2016 9:56pm
dad4justice

Was Peter butch at LAX? Maybe the truth can be found if you ask him why he is NOT ALLOWED in that country.
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July 13, 2016 9:56pm
big bruv

Its about time you told us all what happened at LAX D4J. I am sure we would love to know why Peter Davis is kept from visiting his good lady wife in the USA.
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July 13, 2016 9:58pm
sam green

I know you are big boy – dad4justice. I could whisper that in your ear all night.
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July 13, 2016 9:58pm
sam green

Oh the huge manatee!
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July 13, 2016 10:01pm
dad4justice

Oh look my stalker for 12 years the sad deranged lunatic bb has arrived.

Goodbye I am outta here before I catch a deadly disease.
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July 13, 2016 10:02pm
sam green

See ya soon hunny. Xxxx
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July 13, 2016 10:03pm
big bruv

It cant be 12 years D4J, you have been banned (or otherwise ‘detained’) for the most part of that time.
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July 13, 2016 10:04pm
stigie

And it’s taken 12 years for Dad to think he could get infected..?
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July 13, 2016 10:06pm
sam green

Ooo. I’ve come over all faint. That was an effort. ?
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July 13, 2016 10:08pm
Inandout

It seems like yesterday but the debate still rages on Peter Davis.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10401769
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July 13, 2016 10:39pm
Jack5

Flaws alleged in New Zealand’s decriminalisation of prostitution, according to this article in the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/13/decriminalising-sex-trade-protect-workers-abuse
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July 13, 2016 10:47pm
PhilP

My God! she is one ugly beast that one!
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July 13, 2016 10:49pm
Rachael Membery

lilman (1,157 comments) says:

July 13th, 2016 at 1:57 pm

I cant believe the bonuses that people get. a friend of mines son, an engineer is getting a five digit bonus on top of good wages. He works for Fonterra. If it was going to the farmer I would pay more for cheese, it is the cheapest that it has been for years, why?
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July 13, 2016 11:43pm
Left Right and Centre

Would anyone like to ‘weigh in’ on the use of ‘weigh in’ or ‘weighed in’ ?
Why do these cretins in the media have to copy everything from America so slavishly ?

I thought the two stupid women fronting Fair Go were going to break out into a rendition of Dancing Queen – looked like best mates drunk lining up one of those grinning moron sisterhood selfies. I’ll never get sick of pointing out how f&%king stupid the fake emotional facial expression cues are. Overdone – pantomime shit – pulling the dumbest condescending faces. Don’t watch it then. I had it on – I can’t tell you what was on it. One of Auckland’s thousands of diversity dividend Asians who spoke fob English. Um – now I’m really struggling – was it . . . you see – oh yeah – some farmer and his seeds. Tuned out the middle. Young and sweet, only se-ven-teen, oh ooooooh ooooh – you can dance – you can ji-hive.

for the muzzas – you can jihad – hahahaha
When you think of a NZ farmer – what colour ? Yep – farmer was a whitey. Still waiting for the diversity dividend to chip away at that stereotype.

And Fair Go presenters ? Still waiting for it to be say an Indian and Asian girl – not two twinkie binks.
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July 14, 2016 3:12am
Manolo

Will stephieboy, pious Muslim and resident Islamophile, mourn the barbarians’ passing?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/13/islamic-state-reportedly-preparing-for-end-its-so-called-caliphate.html

The Washington Post reported Tuesday that the terror group’s leaders in Syria are bracing for its strongholds to fall, but vow to continue its wave of terror attacks abroad. U.S. counterterrorism experts believe the recent large-scale attacks in Istanbul and Baghdad are a sign that its reign in the Middle East is dwindling.
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