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July 12, 2016 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 12 July 2016

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sam green

How about that brown Maori doctor who operates on you to release that bowel obstruction starboard? Bit of help from the Iranian anaesthetist. Looked after by a nurse from Fiji. Who ya gonna call?
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July 12, 2016 9:03pm
mikenmild

starboard is white scum
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July 12, 2016 9:05pm
starboard

ummm, yeah ok sam, whatever * rolls eyes, thinks to himself, fucktard *

Really MM, white has mite and is right son.
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July 12, 2016 9:15pm
mikenmild

White people just don’t get the gratitude the deserve from other races…
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July 12, 2016 9:21pm
starboard

Spell check Mikey, can always tell when you are about to fold as you either 1) start swearing or 2) make spelling mistakes. Heh.
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July 12, 2016 9:25pm
Left Right and Centre

LR&C fulmination #6648-13 . . .
The bigger the scroll required, the better the comment has to be not to earn a downtick.
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July 12, 2016 9:25pm
Nookin

I have been looking forward to Prime Rocks tonight –on Leonard Cohen. Sadly, I did not expect a bunch of no-names setting out to ruin his music. KD Lang can do it. Jeff Buckley did ok but with these few exceptions, only Leonard Cohen can sing Leonard Cohen.
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July 12, 2016 9:38pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Nookin

Nick Cave is not a no-name!!!!!!!!!!!!
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July 12, 2016 9:50pm
sam green

Beat me Maggy – 8 to the bar
Nick rocks! Who better to interpret Suzanne!
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July 12, 2016 9:52pm
Shawn Herles

Nookin, I generally liked the performers, especially the Handsome Family. But sure, only Cohen sounds like Cohen. Still a good show though. Cohen’s music and lyrics just blow me away.
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July 12, 2016 9:53pm
Manolo

Another kínd act from the religion of peace:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/iraq-deaths-car-bomb-market-attack-baghdad-160712070446950.html

At least nine people have been killed and dozens wounded in a car bombing at an outdoor market in a district just north of Iraq’s capital, Baghdad, according to police sources.

Police said a parked car packed with explosives blew up on Tuesday morning at a vegetable and fruit market in Rashidiyah town.
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July 12, 2016 9:54pm
Shawn Herles

Yup, Nick Cave absolutely rocks.
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July 12, 2016 9:55pm
sam green

@Maggy Wassilieff

Best song ever! Or best ever opening line..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FG0-cncMpt8
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July 12, 2016 9:59pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Somewhere out there (probably in a Sallies 2nd hand store) lurks a red woollen jersey with Nick Cave’s face intarsia-style….knitted by yours truly for a less-than-grateful teenage daughter.
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July 12, 2016 9:59pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Sam Green

Dump the missus… let’s run away to the Hindu kush together
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July 12, 2016 10:02pm
sam green

@Maggy Wassilieff

Gold. That would be worth a mint.
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July 12, 2016 10:02pm
sam green

But she’s real purty …
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July 12, 2016 10:04pm
Shawn Herles

The Handsome Family – Far From Any Road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp0BjFl-a1Y
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July 12, 2016 10:05pm
Nookin

I guess I was flattened because I had looked forward to LC all week and only got glimpses. Nick Cave? OK, I guess I am a troglodite.
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July 12, 2016 10:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@sam green

Ok, she can tag along… we might be able to sell her to a sadhu
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July 12, 2016 10:08pm
Shawn Herles

I totally get that Nookin. Still, there’s always YouTube.
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July 12, 2016 10:13pm
sam green

I nearly sold her in old Istanbul for some camels
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July 12, 2016 10:15pm
sam green

Nookin

“Anthem” was crackin’. They were his old back up singers.
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July 12, 2016 10:18pm
Shawn Herles

The guy and girls currently singing Hallelujah are not a patch on Cohen, but the song still manages to send shivers down my spine.
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July 12, 2016 10:23pm
sam green

However Nookin ….. I love Rufus Wainwright for many reasons – singing is not one of them.
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July 12, 2016 10:23pm
Jack5

Bedtime story for the Stephie Islamic troll team.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3685685/Arabic-Council-Australia-founder-Joseph-Wakim-jailed-20-months-sexual-assault.html
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July 12, 2016 11:07pm
Jack5

Re Sam Green’s colour imagination in his 9.03 post:

How about that brown Maori doctor …

I don’t think skin colour defines Maori these days, Sam. Maori can be dark brown, brown, fawn, and, especially in the South Island, white. Fairly similar to the pakeha skin-tone range.
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July 12, 2016 11:12pm
Left Right and Centre

Going home is easier with the usual bunch of morons on their phones, on their phones and still more on their fing phones; signalling still optional, lane changing exciting, all the usual blah blah blah of commuting. Did I mention the use of phones, calling, speaking and texting?

This comment reminds me of when I drove buses – the motorway commute leading up to xmas . . .
Starting with those at the top – each week the next social class down would become absent until . . .
Just the dribbling peons such as moi remained to roam an empty four lane.
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July 13, 2016 1:24am
Manolo

The young, naive, and gullible feel betrayed by the old socialist. What a laugh!
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/12/people-are-furious-that-bernie-sanders-just-endorsed-hillary-clinton/
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July 13, 2016 6:38am
Manolo

A puppet, a minion in action:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/12/lynch-mum-on-clinton-email-probe-at-tense-house-hearing.html
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July 13, 2016 9:11am
stephieboy

Manolo, isn’t it time to give your hang up a rest ?
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July 13, 2016 9:16am
Manolo

Busted: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
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July 13, 2016 10:02am
stephieboy

Manolo, a pity the WT has apparently not bothered to independently source and verify the claim ?

Try again !
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July 13, 2016 10:08am
Manolo

The crooked queen lies, blocks, and obfuscates:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-block-deposition-email-225418

Lawyers for Hillary Clinton are going to federal court for the first time to block efforts to force her to testify in a civil lawsuit related to her private email set-up.

Clinton’s attorneys submitted a legal filing Tuesday morning in a bid to shut down a conservative group’s request for an order forcing her to submit to a deposition in the midst of her presidential campaign.
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July 13, 2016 10:15am
stephieboy

Manolo, however, you will be bitterly disappointed to learn that Bernie Sanders has endorsed Hilary ,

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/index.html
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July 13, 2016 10:24am
Manolo

C’mon stephieboy. Why would I be disappointed? It was obvious all along that the veteran socialist would endorse the crooked queen. Didn’t you see it coming?
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July 13, 2016 10:27am
starboard

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/82044490/cordon-remains-at-site-of-police-fatal-shooting-in-hamilton

Stupid bint, you expect us to believe the Police just walked in and shot your boyfriend. ” He was murdered”
Ppfft..yeah whatever. Are you related to the Wallace’s in Waitara ?
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July 13, 2016 10:45am
Manolo

Our resident Islamophile rejoices in the true religion of peace: http://www.vocativ.com/339694/isis-bloody-ramadan/

ISIS is celebrating the end to a particularly bloody month of attacks.

On Tuesday the jihadi group’s weekly magazine al-Naba boasted that 5,200 people were killed or wounded in “military operations” during the holy month of Ramadan, including the deadly attack in Orlando last month.
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July 13, 2016 10:58am
Fletch

Manolo, I notice that the whitehouse.gov site has a petition there re: Clinton, and it has over the necessary 100,000 votes, which means it must be addressed by the White House (not that they will probably do anything about it). In fact, over 232,000 people have signed it.

Charge Hillary Rodham Clinton pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 641, 793, 794, 798, 952, and 1924

Secretary of State Clinton was in direct violation of the agreement between her and the United States of American outlined on the Standard Form 312, section 4. She sent classified information outside of a server with the classification needed to keep the information she was sending secure. Her actions have created a major security violation and could potentially be used by enemies of the state. This petition is being used to reverse the FBI decision and have HRC charged with all of the aforementioned charges, along with any others that are outlined in the SF 312.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/charge-hillary-rodham-clinton-pursuant-18-usc-641-793-794-798-952-and-1924
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July 13, 2016 11:11am
Manolo

The incompetent’s ego:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/12/obama-mentions-himself-45-times-during-memorial-speech-for-dallas-officers/

President Obama referred to himself 45 times over the course of the speech he delivered Tuesday at the memorial service for the five police officers killed in Dallas last week.
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July 13, 2016 12:56pm
Shawn Herles

“Manolo, however, you will be bitterly disappointed to learn that Bernie Sanders has endorsed Hilary ,”

Fantastic news. That means a good sized chunk of Bernie supporters, both Dems and Independents, will flock to Trump.

Couldn’t be happier! 🙂
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July 13, 2016 1:04pm
Shawn Herles

Former Navy SEAL Tej Gill: ‘Hillary Clinton Killed My Friends’

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/07/12/former-navy-seal-tej-gill-hillary-clinton-killed-my-friends-2/
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July 13, 2016 1:12pm
Shawn Herles

BOMBSHELL!

Report: Obama Administration Funded Campaign to Topple Netanyahu

“The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group’s efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama’s campaign — all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report.

In one stunning finding, the subcommittee said OneVoice even told the State Department’s top diplomat in Jerusalem of its plans in an email, but the official, Consul General Michael Ratney, claims never to have seen them.

He said he regularly deleted emails with large attachments — a striking violation of open-records laws for a department already reeling from former Secretary Hillary Clinton’s handling of official government records.”

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/12/obama-administration-funded/
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July 13, 2016 1:21pm
mikenmild

Howdy godnutters

The Internet is killing religion—starting with the Mormon Church. The others will follow in course.
The reason’s plain. Religions that insist on “right belief” rely on a closed information system. The power structure must have some level of control over the information the faithful receive. The Internet has broken that closed information system. So religion will be done in by its Enemy of Old. No, not Satan. Knowledge. (For all I know, Satan’s religious.) The church has always resisted the advance of knowledge. Consider Copernicus. This time, though, knowledge really has religion on the ropes, and I don’t think it’s going to survive. What will take its place?

He considers, the Mormons, as they offer a classic example of religious fraud:

Before the Internet, when some Mormon leader would tell the faithful, in effect, “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain,” it was all too easy for the faithful to shrug their shoulders and go on with their daily lives. To fact-check the preacher, one would have to find the car keys, get in the car, drive to the library, find the right microfiche—oh, hell, let’s just stay home and watch Father Knows Best. Now, though, everyone in America has the Internet in their homes, and they can easily research religious claims. Consequently, the Mormon Church is hemorrhaging members. (The church likes to claim it’s one of the world’s fastest-growing religions, thanks to those armies of well-scrubbed missionaries. That’s horseshit, as is their wont.)
Damn you to hell, Internet!

He goes on to clarify that the internet will kill religion, nut not necessarily belief in gods.

The Internet isn’t just about information. It’s about connections. We’ve found truth doesn’t come from On High. It comes from the network.
Churches are going to get out of the Telling You The Truth business. The transmogrified religions that survive the Internet age will be religions devoted to mystery, religions devoted to not knowing. We will see a flattening of traditional hierarchies, as it’s foolish to think anyone has a more direct line to God than anyone else. There will be more and more diversity, more and more openness, less credal exactitude. People’s religious affiliations will be more fluid.
This idea rankles orthodox folks. They think dogma is what is most important—because it was “revealed” by God. “Without correct doctrine,” they say, “you could just believe whatever you want.” Exactly. I mean, if God was so concerned we believe a certain set of facts about Himself, He could have been a hell of a lot plainer. But He wasn’t, so we’re left with mystery.
And really, it’s mystery that deserves worship, isn’t it? Something we have figured out . . . well, we have it figured out. Move on. But mystery . . . Mystery stirs us at our core. The new religion is coming. Get ready.

I don’t go along with that last bit. I have no doubt that the death of organised religion will see all manner of developments to satisfy psychological longings previously satisfied by religion.

http://new.exchristian.net/2016/05/how-internet-is-killing-religion-part-1.html
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