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June 30, 2016 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 30 June 2016

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Reid

Here’s something that will only cause cognitive dissonance amongst the lefties, the rest of you won’t feel it at all.

This U.N. Official Accidentally Crushed His Own Throat Right Before He Was Set To Testify Against Hillary Clinton

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/this-u-n-official-accidentally-crushed-his-own-throat-right-before-he-was-set-to-testify-against-hillary-clinton_06282016

Point is, two legs good four legs bad thinking is food to cognitive dissonance and poison to Western political truth. If you aren’t capable of seeing Key is just as bad as Hulun, your political antennae is broken, by cognitive dissonance.

Try not to get belligerent won’t you, in response to that suggestion.

Notice I said capable, I didn’t say he was.

Being capable of seeing it when it appears is freedom. That’s what you need to aim for.
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June 30, 2016 7:35pm
Reid

What about the rest of us who, rather than suffer from cognitive dissonance, merely consider the message to be a load of bollocks Reid?

Where do we fit into the picture?

Cynycism is nothing more than abbrogation of interest in the world mate. But I question your cynical credentials, given you persist in commenting here. I think you’re as interested as the rest of us in the truth, whatever that might be. Freeing yourself from cognitive dissonance is merely another tool to discern it. Just like understanding the concept of transcendence is.
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June 30, 2016 7:41pm
nasska

Thanks Reid. My cognition is no longer discordant! 🙂
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June 30, 2016 7:44pm
mikenmild

How can you be sure that you are not the one suffering from cognitive dissonance, Reid?
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June 30, 2016 7:45pm
Shawn Herles

The problem with using cognitive dissonance in a political debate is that there is no way to objectively claim who is or is not suffering from it. It’s purely a matter of subjective opinion. Simply saying that your opponent in a debate is suffering from it, is just like saying he or she is a sheeple. It’s a debate fail, because it is not a legitimate attempt to make your case on it’s merits, it’s just a way to avoid having to do so.
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June 30, 2016 8:02pm
nasska

A man’s comfort in life can be measured by the quality of the toilet paper he uses to wipe his arse.
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June 30, 2016 8:06pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

Wikipedia is your friend:

Quality is usually determined by the number of plies (stacked sheets), coarseness, and durability. Low grade institutional toilet paper is typically of the lowest grade of paper, has only one or two plies, is very coarse and sometimes contains small amounts of embedded unbleached/unpulped paper. Mid-grade two ply is somewhat textured to provide some softness and is somewhat stronger. Premium toilet paper may have lotion and wax and has two to four plies of very finely pulped paper. If it is marketed as “luxury“, it may be quilted or rippled (embossed), perfumed, colored or patterned, medicated (with anti-bacterial chemicals), or treated with aloe or other perfumes.

What’s your comfort level Nasska: low-grade, mid-grade, premium or luxury? Or is your comfort level constrained by what they sell down at the Eketahuna market?
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June 30, 2016 8:20pm
mikenmild

I guess that’s a close as we’ll get to a philosophy from Eketahuna.
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June 30, 2016 8:20pm
mikenmild

In other north Wairarapa news, I understand the Tui brewery at Managatainoka is closing, although they are planning to pretend to brew small amounts on site to retain the ‘authenticity’ of the tourist attraction. Vile stuff – supporting a small rural community was the only reason to buy it.
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June 30, 2016 8:23pm
nasska

….”is your comfort level constrained by what they sell down at the Eketahuna market?”…..

I rely totally on the comfort provided by the Wairarapa Times Age Nostra. The editor is a raving socialist & that helps.
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June 30, 2016 8:29pm
Reid

I understand the Tui brewery at Managatainoka is closing…Vile stuff…

Excellent example of marketing, which is the basis of cognitive dissonance. Everyone knows Madison Avenue was started by Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud’s nephew.

And it is a vile product.

Yet it engenders emotion.

Just like cognitive dissonance does.

Thanks mm.

Way to profoundly emphasize my above point.
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June 30, 2016 8:30pm
mikenmild

I have more favoured products to dissonance my cognition, Reid. Right now its a Founder’s pilsener. Pilsener is of Czech origin, so I hope its not Jewish at all.
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June 30, 2016 8:32pm
nasska

If you think Tui is bad you should have compassion for those who live in the shade of Mt Egmont Mike. Apparently all beer starts out looking like watered down water & they add caramel to darken it according to demand.

A few years ago I was talking to one of the Managatainoka brewery drivers who used to take tankers full of the muck up to New Plymouth where they added extra burnt sugar & bottled the resultant mess.

It was sold as “Taranaki Strong Ale”.
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June 30, 2016 8:36pm
Shawn Herles

“A man’s comfort in life can be measured by the quality of the toilet paper he uses to wipe his arse.”

A man’s wealth in life can be measured by whether or not he can pay someome to wipe his ass for him. 🙂
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June 30, 2016 8:38pm
mikenmild

There is some truly awful piss around for the masochists, nasska. At Westpac Stadium we are force-fed some unbeerlike beverage jokingly named Summit Ale. Dunedin have their fucking awful Speights, Hamilton the execrable Waikato Draught, while I understand that such foul brews as Lion, Heineken, Steinlager and Monteiths still remain popular, judging by the piles of that crap stacked in Pak ‘n Save.
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June 30, 2016 8:46pm
nasska

I’ve been fifteen years on the wagon Mike yet I don’t reckon I’m missing out on much.

But I noticed that you neglected to mention the worst swamp water ever poured into a glass…..Leopard!
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June 30, 2016 8:52pm
Reid

The problem with using cognitive dissonance in a political debate is that there is no way to objectively claim who is or is not suffering from it.

Boy, it’s pretty fucking lucky I was merely discussing the nature of the phenomenon itself, isn’t it. Rather than discussing its application to any particular discussion.

You’d have to be a right dummy to conflate the two, wouldn’t you.

Anyway, what pray tell was your actual point Shawn, or were you just typing while talking to yourself and you accidently hit Submit?
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June 30, 2016 8:54pm
mikenmild

I’m pretty sure Leopard has gone for good, nasska. Remember when Richard Hadlee was promoting the truly disgusting ‘Paw Lager’?
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June 30, 2016 8:56pm
Nostradamus

Mikenmild:

So you don’t like:
– Summit Ale
– Speights
– Waikato Draught
– Lion
– Heineken
– Steinlager
– Monteiths.

I think chardonnay (paired with a book about glorious socialism) might be more to your liking? 🙂
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June 30, 2016 8:57pm
Shawn Herles

“But I noticed that you neglected to mention the worst swamp water ever poured into a glass…..Leopard!”

Shame on you for even mentioning it naaska! 🙂

Hideous. Truly, deeply, hideous beer!
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June 30, 2016 8:59pm
Shawn Herles

“Anyway, what pray tell was your actual point Shawn”

Using cognitive dissonance in a debate to defend your view is a debate fail. And you have used that tactic many times.

It was right there in my post, in plain English.
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June 30, 2016 9:01pm
mikenmild

Nostradamus
Oh, there are many, many more things that I don’t like, but I don’t want to bore you.
Beers that I do like:
Founders
Tuatara
Panhead
Anything someone else pays for.
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June 30, 2016 9:02pm
nasska

Can’t recall a “Paw Lager” & I’m probably the better off for that. As a driver I occasionally had to stay over at Stortford Lodge & after a night on the Leopard it was hard to stay continent the next day.
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June 30, 2016 9:02pm
Fletch

The U.S is just really beginning to f*** me off now. A 9 year old boy refers to brownies (the snack) as, well, brownies. He gets called racist, and the police are called to interview. No, really…

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/school-calls-police-9-year-old-racist-remark-called-snack-brownies
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June 30, 2016 9:03pm
mikenmild

Some people cling to their favourite beers, no matter how terrible they are. I heard a funny story a few years ago about a threatened revolt in the officers’ mess at one of our army camps. The new commander had Lion Red removed from the bar – “officers don’t drink that”
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June 30, 2016 9:07pm
Tauhei Notts

Nasska at 9.02.
I liked Leopard Continental beer. It was usually shortened to Leopard Cont, but some people got the vowel mixed up when they pronounced it.
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June 30, 2016 9:14pm
Shawn Herles

Well, that’s Obama’s Liberal-Left America for you Fletch. Import terrorists. Release terrorists from Guantanamo Bay. Make excuses for terrorists. Never mention radical Islam. But a 9 year old calling brownies brownies? Call the police! National outrage!

And the Hillary witch will be no different.
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June 30, 2016 9:19pm
Reid

Using cognitive dissonance in a debate to defend your view is a debate fail.

That’s another thing I didn’t do in my post.

For the third time, I merely pointed out what cognitive dissonance was.

It was not in reference to anything else, what so ever.

Try not to get belligerent, angry or anything else indicative of cognitive dissonance won’t you.

See my post above for the symptoms.

Only trying to help you through it Shawn.

Hope you appreciate it, but suspect you’re already boiling over, on the inside.

Congratulations for holding in the volcano, thus far.
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June 30, 2016 9:21pm
Captain Mainwaring

Talking of beer, how many of you remember the story of the effeminate little chap who want to the doctor complaining that he had a sore bottom.
The doc examined him and sent him off with the instruction that he went and bought a slab of Waikato Green, then went to the Indian takeaway and ordered the hottest vindaloo the guy could make, then he was to go home, scoff the curry, wash it down with Waikato’s finest and come back in a couple of days.
“What kind of cure was that?” said the little ponce two days later? I haven’t got off the dunny for the best part of two days and I’ve been shitting like a fire hose.” “That wasn’t a cure”, replied the doc, “That was just to remind you what your arsehole’s for.”
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June 30, 2016 9:34pm
Inandout

nasska 8.36: I sat for hours on the banks of that stream that flowed past the Tui brewery waiting for those GORGEOUS women..alas, ’twas in vain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7u5XvupSU
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June 30, 2016 9:39pm
Shawn Herles

“For the third time, I merely pointed out what cognitive dissonance was.”

But you have used it as a debate tactic before, so tough. I know you like to play these shell games, but trying to isolate one thing you say from another, is dishonest.

“Congratulations for holding in the volcano, thus far.”

LMAO! 🙂

Sorry Reid, but the most you ever engender in me is mild amusement. 🙂
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June 30, 2016 9:51pm
Fletch

Have we always had to pay GST on goods coming into the country?

http://www.whatsmyduty.org.nz/faq
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