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DJP6-25

lilman 8:17 am. Yes, the combination of statist heads exploding; and the day long smell of schadenfreude is very intoxicating.
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June 27, 2016 1:05pm
starboard

Great comment regarding England pulling out of the EU..

“It was a mistake, made partly because of their obsession with “multiculturalism” and political correctness, much like the US. Right-minded people are tired of it and want their country’s identity and culture back.”

“The U.K. and America will both be great again.”

Multiculturalism and political correctness. The biggest load of bullshit, smoke and mirrors since time began. Good riddance to it.

MM, those in glasshouses..
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June 27, 2016 1:11pm
Shawn Herles

8 Most Obnoxious Hollywood Lefties

“But first, the Second Stringers: There were so many to choose from: George Clooney, Mike Farrell, Susan Sarandon, Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen, Ed Asner, Tim Robbins, Ashley Judd, Harry Belafonte, Roseanne Barr, Jane Fonda, Ted Turner, Robert Redford, Ed Begley, Carlos Mencia, Matt Groening, Bruce Springsteen, Jon Bon Jovi, P. Diddy, Richard Belzer, Cameron Diaz, Seth MacFarlane, …

Our three main criteria are 1: Advocacy of insane progressive fascism, 2: Overall Obnoxiousness and 3: Hypocrisy. The industry is packed to the rafters with left-wing idiots who roll down the windows of the limos long enough to shout “Eat the rich!” and then drive back to their Malibu beach estates without any conscious awareness of the irony. So, we’ll set aside the washed-up, ineffectual, and blatantly insane for now, and skip straight to Hollywood’s Moonbat A-List.”

https://tehresistance.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/8-most-obnoxious-hollywood-lefties/
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June 27, 2016 1:13pm
tom hunter

starboard (4,956 comments) says:
June 27th, 2016 at 12:57 pm
oh no Mikey, not I. The sodomy/anal intercourse expert of young men appears to be a member of your beloved Labour Party.
Just sayin.

Just for starboard, who I picked as the most likely person to trigger this theme. Back from when The Onion was still great, Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?:

Take last Sunday, for instance, when I casually struck up a conversation with this guy in the health-club locker room. Nothing fruity, just a couple of fellas talking about their workout routines while enjoying a nice hot shower. The guy looked like a real man’s man, too–big biceps, meaty thighs, thick neck. He didn’t seem the least bit gay. At least not until he started sucking my cock, that is.

Of course it may be that starboard has tried really hard to send out a big “NO” message, like this guy did:

A few months back, I started wearing an intimidating-looking black leather thong with menacing metal studs in the hopes that it would frighten those faggots off, but it didn’t work. In fact, it only seemed to encourage them. Then, I really started getting rough, slapping them around whenever they were sucking my cock, but that failed, too.

Sadly I can only see the same future path for starboard:

I swear, if these homosexuals don’t take a hint and quit sucking my cock all the time, I’m going to have to resort to drastic measures–like maybe pinning them down to the cement floor of the loading dock with my powerful forearms and working my cock all the way up their butt so they understand loud and clear just how much I disapprove of their unwelcome advances. I mean, you can’t get much more direct than that.
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June 27, 2016 1:14pm
starboard

Fantastic Tom, I haven’t laughed so much in ages..thank you.
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June 27, 2016 1:19pm
mikenmild

Nice one. So how long does starboard have to keep talking about anal sex before we all get the message that he is definitely not homosexual?
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June 27, 2016 1:20pm
tom hunter

I’m glad that both of you could enjoy that one. NSFW I know but too bloody funny.
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June 27, 2016 1:22pm
Shawn Herles

“A few months back, I started wearing an intimidating-looking black leather thong with menacing metal studs in the hopes that it would frighten those faggots off, but it didn’t work.”

Heh. I think I may have spotted a flaw in this strategy. 🙂
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June 27, 2016 1:24pm
Griff

Moko Rangitoheriri’s killers David Haerewa and Tania Shailer sentenced to 17 years’ prison
One look at the mother says it all.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/81477608/moko-rangitoheriris-killers-david-haerewa-and-tania-shailer-sentenced-to-17-years-prison
Reading her victim impact statement chewing gum face covered in scribbles.
FFS Feral
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June 27, 2016 1:58pm
Manolo

They are asking for the top Eurocrat’s head:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3661277/Blame-Juncker-Brussels-chief-told-stands-Britain-voted-against-quit.html
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June 27, 2016 2:05pm
Kimbo

@ Griff

Reading her victim impact statement chewing gum face covered in scribbles.
FFS Feral

You are pretty harsh and presumptuous. She has got the tats since Moko was killed as a tribute/memorial – is part of her therapy. Wouldn’t be my choice, but I’m not a mother going through the horror of having lost a child in those circumstances.
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June 27, 2016 2:06pm
Shawn Herles

Griff’s terribly concerned about the children, when it’s Maori involved. When it’s Muslims killing, abusing or raping kiddies or young women, he has all sorts of excuses and denials.

The technical term for this is conveniant double standards.

Given his various views, such as killing children in the womb, or killing the disabled children Griff thinks are barely human, or trying to deny Muslim child abusers, I think it’s safe to say Griff does not give a damn for Moko, or any other children.
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June 27, 2016 2:11pm
Hajji

I’m a homosexual.

So are my brother and father and uncles.
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June 27, 2016 2:23pm
Kimbo

@ Hajji

I’m a homosexual.

o are my brother and father and uncles.

Is that in the same way you are a “Muslim”? Or is your out-of-left-field confession more of an, ‘I’m Spartacus!’ kinda thing? 😉
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June 27, 2016 2:26pm
Northland Wahine

Griff…Do I feel both parents could have done more to protect this child? Yes I do. And for the life of me, I don’t get how scarring your face heals such a wound, that she must be carrying.

But it wasn’t about her. It was about a 3 year old helpless child who didn’t have chance, to defend himself.

So can we please, PLEASE refrain from throwing around ugly labels that ultimately reflect on this little child, whether it is intentional or not. Don’t trivialise his life to match any pre conceived prejudices.
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June 27, 2016 2:30pm
Griff

I know enough of the kids fostered ,counselled, and educated by my family and the conditions the kids lived under to be totally horrified by the sort of shit that does this to a child. I dont find the mother convincing or innocent in any way. Sorry If that offends some .
They all know what goes on in the extended whanau.
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June 27, 2016 2:47pm
Northland Wahine

So do I Griff, for today 5 children that we cared for, for less than a week, move on to more permanent caregivers.

Today I stood side by side with clients in front of the Papakura District Court. We originally went to manukau but there was no organised rally there. 8 people turned up at Manukau, all grandparents. 6 pakeha and 2 Maori. I was ashamed that other nanas like myself weren’t there in more numbers.

But it isn’t about how I feel. Today’s match was about letting it known that Mokos life mattered. And it still matters. And if that offends you? Then so be it.
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June 27, 2016 2:56pm
stephieboy

Shawn Herles , I take it telling lies was the first theological lesson you learnt passing with an A+?
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June 27, 2016 3:10pm
Jack5

In notice of the centenary of World War 1, the peaceniks seem out to ensure conscientious objectors receive as much recognition as those who fought.

The small number of conscientious objectors did get a rough time in World War 1, but I’m not so sure about similar objectors in World War 2. The conscientious objectors then would have had us all die with them if Hitler and Hirohito had won World War 2.

The peaceniks I respect most are the ones who served bravely as ambulance drivers and the like, accepting danger without compromising their principles.

Descendants should be allowed to pay their respects to family members who served in World War 1, especially those who served and died, without commemorations being “one-upped” by peaceniks.

As for the “shame” being felt by conscientious objectors’ descendants as claimed in the article linked to below, I would dispute that. Since the 1970s, being a conscientious objector has become to many people almost a badge of honour.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/features/80862022/Shame-of-conscientious-objectors-passed-down-family-lines
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June 27, 2016 4:05pm
Viking2

On that Thursday, Moko was soiling himself uncontrollably. By the Sunday, Moko could barely walk. He started falling to the ground, was vomiting often and was unable to stop defecating. Both Shailer and Haewera were at home the entire day with Moko, but no medical treatment was sought. Haewera kicked Moko in the back after he defecated on this day. Shailer held his mouth shut to silence him.

On Monday, August 10, Moko was unable to speak and could barely move. His stomach became hard. Breathing was laboured. Shailer walked her children to school and at midday went to attend a course. On her trip home about 2.20pm, she told a friend Moko had fallen from a woodpile. Her friend was concerned and said it was best to have him checked out in case he had a head injury. She even offered to drive them to the hospital. Shailer declined.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/81477608/moko-rangitoheriris-killers-david-haerewa-and-tania-shailer-sentenced-to-17-years-prison

What can one say?
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June 27, 2016 4:05pm
wreck1080

These people marching and supporting moko make me a bit sick.

They are the same people that would complain when you propose tough enough measures in to deal to the problem of child abuse.

Cyfs could identify a whole bunch of families with abuse profiles where this could occur. I say take the kids off these families right away and neuter the parents. If you don’t do this, abuse will still happen.

Sterilise males with more than a couple of violence convictions too.

The marchers are the enablers of this type of abuse.

As for the mother…. unsure why she didn’t see her child for such a long period… personally i reckon she has liability for not checking her child at least once every couple of weeks or so .
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June 27, 2016 4:47pm
Reid

What a surprise.

After former news curators admitted that Facebook routinely suppressed conservative news on its news feed, a training manual was leaked that confirmed there was only one of ten “trusted” news sources by which trending news topics could come from with any type of conservative angle. In the wake of those bad public relations events, the company clumsily tried to save face. Facebook subsequently denied any wrongdoing but still introduced several changes in its policies – put another way, Facebook denied anti-conservative bias but changed policies that produce anti-conservative bias.

After all of the aforementioned events, one would assume that Facebook would lay low and let all of this fade with time, but one would be wrong. Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook’s chief operating officer recently announced that the company would be introducing a “political bias” training program in addition to the managing unconscious bias class the company offers employees.

“We have a managing bias class that all of our leaders and a lot of our employees have taken that I was part of helping to create. And we focused on racial bias, age bias, gender bias, national bias, and we’re going to add in a scenario now on political bias. So as we think about helping people understand different political points of view and being open to different points of view, we’re dealing with political bias as well going forward.” Sandberg said…

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-25/facebook-introduces-political-bias-training-employees

No doubt NZME, Mediaworks, TVNZ, TV3, RNZ and Press Gallery “journos” will be watching attentively, green with envy that their employers haven’t even got around yet to offering the “managing unconscious bias” course to them, let alone the other one.

Maybe then, finally, “no matter what we do, no matter what we say, the polls don’t shift” will become just a wretched distant memory, and the journos can get back to doing what they joined up in the first place to do, be a social warrier and fix things that evil conservatives have hated and wrecked.
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June 27, 2016 5:31pm
Shawn Herles

Another Young Swedish Girl MURDERED by Muslim migrants at refugee center

“Another young girl slaughtered by savages- her dead body found in a bedroom of a refugee center. But do not speak ill of them, you brutes, you’ll hurt their feelings. The primary concern of the EU is for the Muslim migrants, not their own citizens.

They send these innocent girls to work in these refugee centers, like sheep to slaughter.

The fact they Sweden did not halt all Muslim immigration after Alexandra Mehzer’s avage murder demonstrates that they are already dead.

Another young Swedish girl murdered –I blame the leftist elites who put this girl in jeopardy, who lie about the “poor refugees” and who misinform their populations about the very real threat this invasion poses.”

http://pamelageller.com/2016/06/another-young-swedish-girl-murdered-by-muslim-migrants-at-refugee-center.html/
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June 27, 2016 5:36pm
Fletch

The argument for a second referendum 😉

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV9UWpT70is
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June 27, 2016 5:41pm
Steve (North Shore)

Too true Fletch. The lazy bludgers are spitting the dummy. Cocks like him are the problem
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June 27, 2016 5:50pm
Shawn Herles

I watched the vid Fletch. Wow, what an arrogant dick. “We reluctantly accept that you have a right to vote.”

Says it all about the Remain crowd.
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June 27, 2016 6:07pm
Griff

Another Young Swedish Girl MURDERED by Muslim migrants at refugee center……….The fact they Sweden did not halt all Muslim immigration after Alexandra Mehzer’s avage murder demonstrates that they are already dead.

Another young Swedish girl murdered?

Nope Shawnee
it is Alexandra Mehzer from last year being rehashed again by the daily mail…
dear dear
You just reported it as a new crime.
Do you have some sort of issues with fact checking matey ?
Because the story you just posted is bullshit from a webshite.
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June 27, 2016 6:07pm
VicParking

Why because of Bexit will the British eat less lamb, the French less Kiwifruit and the Germans less venison.
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June 27, 2016 6:15pm
Shawn Herles

Griffy, the article refers to Alexandra Mehzer and links to her story, but it’s about an entirely new one. This one.

‘Murder enquiry launched after young woman found dead in refugee centre’

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/683548/Murder-young-woman-asylum-centre-Sweden-Jonkoping

And the nerw story is in the Express, not the Daily Mail.

I’m not sure you should be talking about fact checking.

And people so gullible they quote Loon Watch which is an Islamic terrorist webshite, have no business talking about what is or is not a webshite. 🙂

Is any Islamic terrorist group paying you to lie for them Griffy?
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June 27, 2016 6:16pm
mikenmild

Vic
Someone will correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that our market access to the EU has evolved as part of accommodations with the UK. No UK in the EU may make it harder for us to get a good free-trade agreement with the EU.
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June 27, 2016 6:19pm
Longknives

The Muslim who slaughtered poor Alexandra Mehzer was claiming to be a 15 year-old ‘refugee’ but it turned out he was pushing 30 and certainly not who he claimed to be.
Griff and Stephie will still support him though…
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June 27, 2016 6:19pm
Shawn Herles

“Griff and Stephie will still support him though…”

I’m starting to wonder if these two just get off on Muslims raping women. They seem to be dead keen to support and cover for them.

Or perhaps Griffy has joined stephie in facing Mecca 5 times a day. 🙂
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June 27, 2016 6:21pm
Shawn Herles

Webshites Griffy has used for his claim that Islamic terrorism and immigration are no threat.

Loon Watch. Webshite effectively run by Islamic terror group HAMAS.

Mother Jones. A far Left Wing webshite.

The Nation. Another far Left webshite.

Russia Today. Kremlin propagnda webshite use by EAD and Reid that publishes anti-Western conspiracy theories.

Oh, and lets not forget his ten year old FBI report.

Griffy is swiming in webshites. 🙂
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June 27, 2016 6:25pm
Longknives

Was the ‘Tough Guy’ strutting round with Exaggerated walk, Facial Tattoos and Gang Colours supposed to drum up sympathy for Moko’s family??
Because it had the opposite effect for those watching in our household…
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June 27, 2016 6:31pm
Griff

Another Young Swedish Girl MURDERED by Muslim migrants at refugee center

Actually Shawnee there is no evidence that it was a Swedish girl.
According to Swedish media it was a relationship drama .Enligt flera medier är det ett relationsdrama.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article23070587.ab
Anyway lets get things into perspective eh
USA 3.9 murders for each 100,000 people each year
Four murders among 245000 refugees in three years .
More than 1,750 migrants perished in the Mediterranean since the start of the year.
You are over sensationalizing shit that happens not some huge crime wave.
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June 27, 2016 6:43pm
Shawn Herles

LoonWatch Exposed. Good site that shows how Loon Watch lies and distorts in the service of Islamic terror.

https://loonwatchexposed.blogspot.com/
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June 27, 2016 6:47pm
AgentBallSack

How come people who have been tried for murder often get convicted of manslaughter instead, but the Governor General let the charges be downgraded to manslaughter to gain a conviction of…..manslaughter?
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June 27, 2016 6:50pm
Shawn Herles

“You are over sensationalizing shit that happens not some huge crime wave.”

Islam in Germany over just one month. Note that there are several mass attacks and sexual assaults by gangs of Islamic youths.

A Month of Islam in Germany: May 2016: Sharia Police, Erdogan Burgers, More Mass Rapes

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8279/islam-germany-may-2016

Griffy thinks this is not a crime wave. Griffy is a Muslim ball licking loon.
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June 27, 2016 6:52pm
RF

Mike Hosking live on TV One from the UK at 7am.

Suck on that Labourites…..
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June 27, 2016 6:55pm
Shawn Herles

Here are just a couple of examples. Again, this is just in Germany over only one month.

“Nearly a dozen women between the ages of 16 and 48 reported being sexually assaulted by groups of male migrants at a music festival in the Kreuzberg district of Berlin. The attacks at the Carnival of Cultures, where groups of men encircled the women and assaulted and robbed them, were similar to those in Cologne on New Year’s Eve.

The Berliner Morgenpost reported that large groups of male migrants have been gathering at the Boulevard Berlin shopping mall in the Steglitz district of the capital, where they have been sexually assaulting female passersby. At least 35 teenage migrants have been loitering at the mall for several weeks, in part because there is free access to the Internet. When security guards asked them to leave the premises, the youths called for back-up and soon dozens more teenage migrants arrived to taunt and harass the guards, who were required to use pepper spray to defend themselves.

Police arrested a 26-year-old migrant from Pakistan suspected of murdering a 70-year-old woman in her home near Heilbronn. The man, who was living in an asylum shelter in Öhringen, had left documents in Arabic and English “of an overwhelmingly religious nature” at the scene of the crime.

A 19-year-old migrant from Iraq was sentenced to two years in prison for raping a 21-year-old woman at the train station in Bad Schwartau, a town in northern Germany. The man —who admitted to dragging the woman into the men’s restroom and raping her — received the minimum possible sentence according to Section 177 of Germany’s criminal code.

A 26-year-old migrant from Afghanistan was sentenced to two-and-a-half years in prison for raping a woman who had offered him accommodation in her home in Cologne.

Groups of male migrants sexually assaulted at least 18 women at an outdoor festival in Darmstadt. The attacks at the Schlossgrabenfest, in which large numbers of men surrounded women and sexually assault them, were similar to those that occurred in Cologne on New Year’s Eve and the Carnival of Cultures in Berlin on May 15.”

According to Griffy, this is not a crime wave. Griffy is not a sane man.
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June 27, 2016 6:58pm
RF

Longknives. 6.31pm.

Do you mean the Phil Goof swagger. This was when he was trying to get street cred and improve his imagine by riding a chopper, dyed hair etc….
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June 27, 2016 7:01pm
Shawn Herles

Obama Increases Importation of Syrian Refugees After Orlando Terror Attack

“In the days following the Orlando terror attack, the Obama administration actually sped up the process of importing Syrian refugees in the U.S. despite the fact that experts have now admitted that terrorists could hide among migrants.”

http://www.progressivestoday.com/obama-accelerates-importation-syrian-refugees-orlando-terror-attack/
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June 27, 2016 7:27pm
nasska

….”the Obama administration actually sped up the process of importing Syrian refugees in the U.S.”…..

Quite understandable. When the killer was shot by police that left a vacancy in the Islamic Jihadis muster. Obama would have wanted it filled ASAP.
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June 27, 2016 7:34pm
Shawn Herles

Bloody hell, this will be interesting. The heads of a great many Liberal-Leftists and SJW’s may explode trying to figure out which side to support! 🙂

Breitbart’s Milo To Lead Gay Pride March Through Swedish Muslim Ghetto

“Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos has announced that he will be leading a gay pride march through one of Sweden’s Muslim ghettos in Stockholm in a few weeks’ time.

Yiannopoulos made the announcement in live conversation with The Rubin Report’s Dave Rubin, after discussing Islam with Rubin and the risks it poses to homosexuals.

“When you start to enforce your political or social opinions through violence, that’s when there’s a problem. That is the moment when the whole world should be saying ‘you are the problem and we’re going to do what it takes to protect ourselves from you’, but the left doesn’t do that” said Yiannopoulos on the live stream.”

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/26/milo-to-lead-gay-pride-march-through-muslim-ghetto-sweden/

I can hear the sound of SJW heads popping already. 🙂
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June 27, 2016 7:35pm
Manolo

@Shawn Herles: Will our own stephieboy give his seal of approval to this endeavour? Being a devout Muslim who does not oppose gays, he is in an interesting position.

What do you reckon?
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June 27, 2016 7:41pm
pentwig

stephieboy (12,186 comments) says:
June 27th, 2016 at 3:10 pm
Shawn Herles , I take it telling lies was the first theological lesson you learnt passing with an A+?

Another delightful comment from daffy.

Note the brilliant intellect.

Keep it up you silly, silly duck.
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June 27, 2016 7:44pm
nasska

The Left is championed by feminists & has long pushed for gay rights. Then it supports Islam which treats women as shit & kills gays.

How any sane person could hold such opposing positions at the same time has got me beat.
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June 27, 2016 7:45pm
pentwig

Yes, the bearded crossdressing duck is very confusing.

Keep it up daffy, you are an amusement.
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June 27, 2016 7:57pm
Shawn Herles

“Will our own stephieboy give his seal of approval to this endeavour?”

Given that he claims to care about gay people you would think so, but I suspect he will throw them under the bus in favor of his precious Muslims. The Left is good at that.

For all my conservatism I would oppose overturning the 87 law reform, I think what people do in the privacy of their own homes is their own business so long as they leave me and my religous convictions alone. Even on gay marriage, which I disagree with, my position is to privatise it, make it a purely private contract, get the State out of it, and then everyone, gay or Christian, can understand and practice marriage as they see fit.

Ironically, for all his wank about liberalism and human rights, stephies multiculturalism is a far greater threat to gays than my conservatism.
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June 27, 2016 8:04pm
mikenmild

At last, Shawn comes to accept one of my long-held liberal policies: the state has no role in regulating personal relationships between consenting adults.
Drug liberalisation next, Shawn – you know that’s what Jesus would want.
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June 27, 2016 8:11pm
Shawn Herles

Heh, actually I’m already in favor of decreminalising marijuana nasska, to some degree anyway, and totally in favor of medical marijuana for cancer patients.
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June 27, 2016 8:14pm
Manolo

I reckon that stephieboy’s Muslim faith will overcome any compassion he feels towards gays. Can almost see him foaming at the mouth, chanting Allahu akbar. 😀
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June 27, 2016 8:14pm
nasska

….”actually I’m already in favor of decreminalising marijuana nasska”…..

Yes. I commend your honesty in changing your views on that.

But it was Mike who made the comment. 🙂
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June 27, 2016 8:20pm
Shawn Herles

It was this article by Rand Paul that convinced me that privatising marriage was the right approach.

http://time.com/3939374/rand-paul-gay-marriage-supreme-court/
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June 27, 2016 8:22pm
Shawn Herles

“But it was Mike who made the comment.”

Oops, so it was.

Bust just to be clear mikey, my point is that privatising the issue of marriage also means the right of businesses or private groups to NOT be forced to service or agree with gay marriage. Including people who bake wedding cakes.

If it’s not freedom both ways, it’s not freedom at all.
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June 27, 2016 8:25pm
nasska

Mrs nasska & myself recently got back from a couple of weeks caravanning in the Far North. Enjoyable trip in an interesting part of the country. The history of gum digging interested me & Google brought up this site:

https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/far-north-tail-of-the-fish/

It includes a few paragraphs on the discovery of swamp kauri buried about seven centuries ago. The striking thing was that the trees had been snapped off at ground level & lay generally in an East/West direction. Turned out that a tsunami generated by seismic activity around the Kermadecs in 1420 was responsible…..thing is that the waves were 45 metres high!

A return event would see Auckland & most of the East Coast well & truly bent out of shape.
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June 27, 2016 8:45pm
mikenmild

Sure, Shawn. I initially had some sympathy for anti-discrimination laws. Now, my position is that they are only suitable in public business. A private business should be able to put up a sign saying “No dogs, Jews or gays” if they want. I just wouldn’t shop there and I’m not sure many customers would.
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June 27, 2016 8:51pm
mikenmild

nasska
No information on whether any locals were able to surf those waves, I suppose?
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June 27, 2016 8:53pm
fernglas

Nasska

There is swamp kauri south of Auckland that is the same. Must have been one hell of a quake.
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June 27, 2016 8:57pm
nasska

….”No information on whether any locals were able to surf those waves, I suppose?”…..

Well, 1420 was about the time the special people made their Great Migration Mike.

You don’t suppose the lazy buggers surfed the last few hundred kilometres? 🙂
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June 27, 2016 9:02pm
mikenmild

Well, New Zealand was the last major land mass to be reached by humans, so maybe it did take something special.
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June 27, 2016 9:03pm
Shawn Herles

“I initially had some sympathy for anti-discrimination laws. Now, my position is that they are only suitable in public business. A private business should be able to put up a sign saying “No dogs, Jews or gays””

Bloody hell mikey, that’s a serious leap forward in your thinking!

I agree that if it’s a state owned business it’s a different story. I don’t have a problem with that, so long as it’s genuinely equitable.

Well, nice to see we agree about something at last. 🙂
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June 27, 2016 9:08pm
mikenmild

It’s a bit like the free speech situation: exceptions should be related to actual harm. In most cases, social norms change and the pressures change. I think there was a case last week where a property owner didn’t want to rent to a gay coupe. The letting agency dropped their business. In the US, the property owner would probably accuse the agency of ‘religious discrimination’. Here, the agency is just making a sensible commercial decision not to associate with bigotry.
Hopefully, the property owners find a straight couple to let the house to. It would be a shame if that couple then use the house as a P-lab or anything.
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